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Speaker 1: All right, now, Hi everybody, welcome to That's Not Metal,

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your weekly rock and heavy metal podcast, and welcome this

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time to another edition of Hyperblast, which is our weekly

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speedy rock and heavy metal news show where we let

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you know everything that you should know that's happened in

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the last seven days or so. Today might be a

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slightly beefier than usual edition of Hyperblasts because we have

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a lot of live music reports and announcements. I suppose

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both me and Sam who is here, Hello Sam, say hello, hello,

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I'm here. Yes, yes, both me and Sam had you know,

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our first shows of the year of twenty twenty five

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this past week to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Second show for me, technically I didn't get talk about it,

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but Bett Lovers was a couple weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Fucking how completely forgot about that? Okay, fair enough, first

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shows we're talking about, all right, fucked it. But you know,

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one of the at least one of those is one

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of the biggest high profiigans tours of this whole year,

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so we got that to talk about. But then also

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not content with that, we have one of i mean

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one of the biggest announcements of the last handful.

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Speaker 3: Of the most absurd things we've said, well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely crackers. And then to top all that off

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as well, it was like Grammy's Week and some others

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have to go on as well. So we are going

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to get into all of that over the next I

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don't know hour or so whatever it might be, So

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strapping rights first shows of the year. Aside from that

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Better Lovers one that you mentioned, I know you went

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to see mad Ball as well, so you know, I'm

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sure mable were mad Bull.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, OK, on like fifty minutes of just stomping New

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York hard core.

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Speaker 3: It rich.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not to be dismissive with them.

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Speaker 3: Love.

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Speaker 1: Mad Ball was just something that.

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Speaker 2: Is you're not going to get like a big report

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from Madville because it's just them rolling through town doing

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what they do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good for them. But I believe about twenty four

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hours later or so, right, you went along to isn't

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it called the Poison Descendants the Poison Descendancy Tour, which

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is of course the combined twentieth anniversary tours for Bilking

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My Valentine, the Poison album and Trivium's Descendancy, which was

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marketed from day one as like a big deal, maybe

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the big event tour of this whole year because of

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the way they announced it with like an actual press

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conference and all of this kind of stuff. And they

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were going for bigger venues and either band normally do

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on their own. And I'm sure everyone's going to want

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to know what was like if they weren't going on

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to it. So Sam, take us into uh you went

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to to the London two, wasn't it?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 2: Again like big wait, the first arena Trivium ever plat

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headline like Codlin and it's the O two that they

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they've not do, only padly not done. So for them,

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like for Truvium, that is like huge step up. Bullet

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have had you know, some experience in arenas, so they're

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a bit more arena you'd say, arena ready, but again

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still by far the biggest thing they've done. So yeah,

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like this is it is. It wasn't just you know

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them seventieions. They were growing for the big fry. They

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were like they were like going for the big big

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deal O to I think was the co Op in Manchester,

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like like the real kind of like lofty venues.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, all the culture supporting didn't make much of them.

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Speaker 1: They're the go to Trivium support band at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like they were fine.

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Speaker 2: They got a decent reception, but it was a bit

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one note for me, so I not that much I

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was to say about them. So yeah, Trivium and Bullet

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in London, I know they were alternating who went on

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Speaker 3: In London, Bullet went on last.

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Speaker 2: I think they clearly kind of like poured some strings

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because from what I gather, they had a bigger production

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budget in London than the rest of the tour and

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all that sort of stuff. So I don't fine. They

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were like, yeah, no, we want to we want to

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be on last because we want to do all all

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all of this big show. But Trivium come on and

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like you know, you get that intro on on Ascendency,

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and I was kind of like, ah, as Rabbis says

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Speaker 1: Oh, I love it. I wouldn't change it for the world.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't. I wouldn't change it.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't change it. It feels my heart like it

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makes you feel warm, fuzzy inside. Because then I know

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that rain's about to kick in and I'm gonna be

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like fuck yeah, let's fucking go. And I have got

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to say when Rain kicked in, I was quite far

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forward because one of my friends who was like true

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his favorite band, and so we were like, we'll go

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fairly far forward. The pit that kicked off from Rain,

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it's one of probably the rowdiest Triviun crowd I've ever seen.

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and again like them in like a bigger reader. You know,

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like because it's so big, they can be a bit

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more timid. But no Trivium crowd were just at it

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for pretty much the entire set, and they rarely led

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up from like Rain. It wasn't until like the kind

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of like last few songs in the album where the

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energy sort of started to waver a little bit because

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they've just been going absolutely batshit for the entire Trivium

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set and like Rain was like fucking yeah, this is

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a big open. You're gonna go like, oh yeah, they're

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about to play there like nine times out of ten

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closer second in the set, let's fucking go pull hard

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on the strings.

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Speaker 3: Your matera rips in like.

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Speaker 2: They had the stage sets, subsou they had like the

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it was called that the hellhole was like the Metallica

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snake pit sort of thing like in the middle of them,

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so that they were coming out to like along the

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side of the walkway. Matt was like on that for

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like almost the entire set, So I do want it

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was like, what if it was like watching it from

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in there, if you're watching the back of Matt's head

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for the most of the set.

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Speaker 3: But the whole band were kind of like playing up to.

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Speaker 2: Like to that part of the crowd into the stage,

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and they had like the first thing they had was

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like a big kind of the like acendenity theme but

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unique backdrop which looked really cool, and they had that

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for the first couple of songs, and then a couple

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of tracks in that drops down you get a little

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mini kind of drum solo just as they're prepping the

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next bit of the stage show, and up in flates

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the giant ascendency goal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is amazing, looking.

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Speaker 2: Like it looked like it was like, go on to

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him if this is your first one, Arenas, you've decided

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what is a really fun, unique kind of novel, And

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giant inflatable of your album.

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Speaker 1: Doing the invisible orange hands as the guy on the

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famously does, but E's And the thing is.

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Speaker 3: That because tis still and that I don't think it

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Speaker 2: It was that warbling, so was like he was reaching

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out to you, and it like gave it this this

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really cool Soprea much fan and it felt like, I say, Trivium.

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go crazy on Pyro and laser shows and all that

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we've got and have one major set piece that is

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gonna just look really fucking coronsation like that. The BADS

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which looked really cool.

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Speaker 3: So like, even though that.

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Speaker 2: One on the actual inflatable, it was just another cool

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visual and then you know they're just ripping through ascendency.

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Speaker 1: I saw it a few like again, so I was

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watching this essentially through many other people. Yeah, many different

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angles of Instagram video. And that's again people who are

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in that little snakepit thing you're talking about, people sort

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of in the normals downing area and then people kind

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of you know, sitting on the sides and so on,

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and those sort of side profiles. Seeing a venue the

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spinning or you know, bouncing up and down dry gunshot

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like you're saying I did. I looked at those veners like, dah,

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looked like this is a trivial crowd that happens to

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be fucking massive going for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, that that is honestly what it felt like.

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to it, so I could always have a good view

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of like how rabid they were. And I was quite

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far forward parallel was like a man of was shirt

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Speaker 1: I saw that? Good lad?

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Speaker 2: I was like, yes, rock on, but yeah, you know,

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and then you had like dying in your arms. I

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again like that. To me, it was actually been every

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Drivium set because it's just huge and it's like what

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Speaker 3: I was like, as much as.

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Speaker 2: You know we've discussed, Ascendency does kind of make up

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the bulk of a lot of Trivium sets they do

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swapping out those songs. But I reckon, if you've seen

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you're kind of going, oh, this this album front to

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back track list, absolutely unfucking real, like so good.

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Speaker 3: And like them playing it with so much power, Matt.

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, fuck, bullet, I'm gonna come on

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haf of this because Trivium.

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, Matt, your bass don't make me

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Speaker 2: But again for in Waves, I didn't turn aud and

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kind of like what is a bit past now the

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whole crowd doesn't jump up, but it felt right in

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the moment for everyone to give Trivium this kind of

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like rowdy like send off within Waves, and it was.

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It was genuinely incredible, and like Matt during the set

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sort of cordy shots saying like we're all here, you know,

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seventeen thousand heavy much it was in the arena like

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to capacity and the seating maybe a couple of empties

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two is pretty much capacity and he was like, you

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the bill. You know that going forward this year with

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the headline and all that, I know, obviously I think

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I like Trivium. I guess still do have some way.

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But you know they've done the O two as part

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of a co headline thing. Could they do that on

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their own? I don't know. But I mean, at the

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very least, like you're saying, I mean, I'm gonna say

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something kind of similar about the gig that I went to,

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and it was on a much much more scale. It's

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a co headline show. But where you've got to say,

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surely almost everyone there is a Trivium fan and was

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there for to some degree to see Trivium, So that

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is an awful lot of people.

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Speaker 3: No, absolutely, and.

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Speaker 2: Even again during it was the deceivel when they got

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one to get their like phone lights out, and that

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was like a like and again every pretty much everyone

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did it. So it wasn't a you know, even some

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co headliners where like the crowd are a bit athetic

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to the first band or everyone leaves after the first band.

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It didn't feel like that. It felt like everyone was

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there for both. And it just meant that Trivia felt

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like a like really powerful, kind of like nostalgic, but

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not like because it was you know, it was female

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es sense. It was a look back to two thousand

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and five. It was a celebration of that. But it

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didn't feel totally regressive. It felt like kind of just

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they put the effort in. They were kind of celebrating

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this monumental album from the Matt like talks about, you know,

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two thousand and five. When they were playing the Garage

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and standard, it went by so quickly that this kind

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of felt like, well, we can actually savor touring ascendency

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on this.

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Speaker 3: That was kind of.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Trivian kind of earned their moments of

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nostalgia because they are so productive and relevant still, you

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know they can go, Okay, here's a year where we're

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going to go down memory lane, I suppose, which brings

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us on to the following burn.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, if on Valentine, who so, I will say,

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like if we flash back to me circle two thousand

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and six and seven getting into metal. The Poison one

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of the first metal lambs I ever fell in love with. Yeah,

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like legitimately, like I heard Tears Don't Fall, all these

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things I hate hand I first time I heard them

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was hand of Blood on Need to Speed most wanted,

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like like that's still thing again. It was there on

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those bands and I was like, fuck, that song's like

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really hard. I need to listen to this band. And

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so like part of me like might even have a

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deep in my heart a soft spot for the Poison

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and the Scency just because of how bit more formative,

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but it did still feel like for me, I was

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kind of like, well, truly, I'm just.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be really fucking good. Star is Bullet gonna just be? Oh?

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Speaker 2: I love hearing these Poison songs live and the thing

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with the Bullet set When they were good, they were

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fucking brilliant. They were really really again, like really good.

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When you're dropping Tears Don't Fall third in the set,

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like that song. If a metalcore band came out of

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a song like Tears Don't Fall right now, we lose

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our minds over how good it is because that song

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is is huge.

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Speaker 3: It's like it is.

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Speaker 1: Quite a thing. As you say, dropping it third in

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the third, I think when you say said the same

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thing about Trivium or Paul Harder, you kind of know

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they've got more in the tank for later. Whereas the

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poison feels of it or like Tears Don't Fall is

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surely whatever one it knows to be the the you know,

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the closer and the poison again, it's it's a app

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It is completely a classic formative record and everything, but

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when you look at the track list, it is more

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front loaded in terms of the hits, shall we say,

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and you know when you look at the last like

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three songs, and I'm not saying they're bad songs, far

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from it, but I am saying in terms of like

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when you're building to the grand finale of a show,

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it's maybe an album that doesn't quite build in that

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same way.

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Speaker 2: I mean as supposed to say like the last because

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like some I know, some people say like after dialing

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your arms descendency, what was I'm like, I don't agree

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with that. Again, I don't necessarily agree with the poison

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because I love the title ta I love ten years today, and.

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Speaker 1: I think I think it also comes into a fact though,

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what they've got for their own core right where Trivium.

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Sure they play essentially are you know one of my

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favorite songs of Sense his departure so like I love

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that back end, but they've got in waves in the

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wings waiting whereas you know what Bullet decided to do.

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I guess, like I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, Bullet had waken the demon, so I thought it

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was it's knives and waking they did too, so like

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again like in the situation did you need to do knives?

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But so Bullet, like I mean you say about to

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before all these things I hate almost felt like the

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Sense piece of the set, like that was huge when

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they played that, the crowd went mental for it, And

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I'm again that's one of the songs again like Angsty

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and try Hard and like emost Is, I love that song.

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But Bullets so like for London, they decided to play

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all the belt and muscles they had, because I was

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wondering because I'd seen some photos of the Bullet Shine.

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I saw they had the.

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Speaker 3: Screens and I was like, okay, a bullet just kind

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of doing screens.

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Speaker 2: So they have they not you know, come up with

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a big inflatable ascendency goal, like, have they not got

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an inflatable poison woman they could have or something like that.

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Speaker 1: A whole lot of Rosie for emos.

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Speaker 2: Could be, but they had so in London they almost

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immediately had Pyro going off during her voice. I was like, oh,

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cool that they They've They've clearly pulled some extra things

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for London.

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Speaker 3: That's cool. But my thing, and I mentioned a few people.

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Speaker 2: The Bullet stage show felt odd to me because again

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I don't want to be all like, oh, it has

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to all be a nostalgic it has to be the

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Poison because it can be aggressive. But for me, the

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Poison has such a distinct aseetic that album. And again

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you can say some of it is dated and and

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all those things, fair enough, but if you're going to

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do a nostalgia tour about it, commit to the bit.

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Speaker 3: At this point this is the.

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Speaker 1: Thing that I because like I say, every video that

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I saw of Trivian with the big inflatable ascendency Ghouli

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at the back and all that looked awesome. Every video

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I saw a Bullet looked kind of weird. And it's

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this strange like have your cake and eat it too

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approach where they use a lot of the album cover

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for you know, the latest album with the little kind.

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Speaker 3: Of weird shaped skull.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's like a little b or something like

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an insect. I don't know, but you know, the little

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thing for the emblem from the last album that seemed

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to be all over their backgrounds and stuff, and like

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that's what the screens were shaped. Yeah, and if they

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if the screens changed for that for the uncle when

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they play Knives from an album, yeah cool, fine, that's

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like the appropriate moment to do it. But there's this

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weird thing of like, yeah, we're we're giving into you know,

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we're giving you what you want in terms of nostalgia,

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and we're playing the poison in full, but the backdrop

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the entire TIMEE is just going to be reminding you

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that Knives exists. Like what are you doing? Like you've

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got to you can't half ass the nostalgia. When you're

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playing an album in full, you either go all in

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or you don't do it at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was like for Tears Don't Fall right again,

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that that that song has such a like you know

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everyone who was doing for that then playing in the

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rain and yeah, they just had these weird kind of

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like kind of like high tick looking screens showing like shapes.

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Speaker 3: And the lyrics. It's just like this for Tears Don't Fall,

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come on now.

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Speaker 2: Like there were a couple of songs, like for the

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title track, they had the poison woman lying there on

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the screens and I was like, yeah, cool, you know

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you've got it for this.

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Speaker 3: That looks pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: All these things I hate they had, you know, bits

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from the video and like kind of like there's some

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like angsty sort of imagery and that looked fine. But

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all of the songs, it was just it was just

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a weird disconnect of like this doesn't these backdrops you

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you're trying to make these songs in something they're not.

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It landed kind of weirdly, and I was just like

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I would I much preferred, like I say, a bespoke

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crafted for this tour stagho that Trivium put together as

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opposed to Bullet My Valentine just sort of like bringing

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out what is that their stage they've got for bigger venues,

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but it just feeling like any other Bullet show, and

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it just it just made the whole set feel kind

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of like, Okay, this is good.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm hearing these points songs. They sound great live.

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Speaker 2: They Bullet did sound good and all fire, yeah, we

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all like fire, but I didn't feel like I was

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seeing something like celebratory like ascendency. Ascendency felt like a

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proper triumphant celebration of everything Trivium have accomplished over twenty years.

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And when Bullet put said they had, you know, a

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video package of like all the things they did in

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two thousand and five where they were like playing in

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cubs and suddenly they were playing download and the and

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the Metal Hammer, Golden God Awards and all these sort

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of things, and so I was like, basically all the

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things they achieved over the ascent, over the Poison, I

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was like, oh, well, they're probably gonna do something, But

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then that kind of just disappeared after the after the

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intro and crap backing and everything on them. But it

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never just kind of had the power of trivium, and

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the crowd didn't seem to be going as rabid for

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the entire so they perked up for like the big singalongs,

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but otherwise it was kind of just like yeah, you know, good, yeah,

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having a good time.

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Speaker 1: It's like I've seen Bullet do the Poisoning full before

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when they last did it, like, you know, almost all

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ten years ago, almost a decade ago, and that was

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you know, that was a really great time. And you know,

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hearing the album and fall and everything is a is

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a great show for sure, and I'm sure that they're

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going to in terms of just the life performance element.

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I'm sure that they were on it in that regard.

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But there is something weird that again that I again

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I'm only seeing this through just images and videos, and

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but this weird presentation that's like almost just embarrassed of

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doing the nostalgia and buying into the visuals of that

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era when they're doing it with the actual like like

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selling the show that way, you know, yeah, just this

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bizarre uh not being one thing or the other kind

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of thing that did seem kind of strange. But I'm

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sure that again they were, like.

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Speaker 2: I said the Highless that bullets were absolutely fantastic, and

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I was like loving life reliving those songs and being like, ah,

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you know, fifteen year old Sam, all these things I

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hate still rocks.

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Speaker 3: You're you there, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, feeling anngs in your room, listening to that song

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where your headphones on. You're having a good time.

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Speaker 1: Yes. I went to equally larger build co headline tour,

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which is actually this is kind of I always forget

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that this was a co headline tour with in the

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kind of run up to it was really bizarre. I

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would to see Cat Decapitation on a bill where they

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were co headlining with Shadow of Intent and it was

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also a pretty big I guess kind of death metal

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and deathcore or whatever a bill underneath them where they

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had Ravacation and Volvadinia opening for them. And this was

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in uh it's a venue in Manchester called New Century Hall,

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which is like a kind of nice venue. Like I

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saw Botch there and stuff, and it was weird because

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I've only ever seen chatic captation in dingy shittles and

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it was like seeing them like like in a venue

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that has a barrier and stuff like that. It was

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like a large stage was really like odd, and I

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was like, this feels too nice for them. But the

476
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size jumpin venue from like the last times I've seen

477
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,640
Catico Importation play Again in Manchester, they played a venue

478
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,920
called Rebellion, which is like three hundred caps something like that. Yeah,

479
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,960
and this again good like I don't know what the

480
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,039
exact is, but somewhere in the like one thousand to

481
00:20:42,079 --> 00:20:45,720
two thousand sort of range, which is a huge jump

482
00:20:45,839 --> 00:20:48,440
from that. And you obviously go, Okay, well, it's a

483
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,559
co headline tour with Shadow Intent along with them. But

484
00:20:51,599 --> 00:20:53,359
I guess sed what you're saying. I was looking around

485
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,680
and I was looking at again, like actually having to like

486
00:20:55,759 --> 00:20:57,920
queue around the block to get into a catteryaptation show

487
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,319
was like really really strange, And I was looking around

488
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,519
people and I was like, surely there isn't this huge

489
00:21:03,559 --> 00:21:05,759
influx of people who are only here for Shadow of

490
00:21:05,799 --> 00:21:07,960
Intent and don't care about cut they appetation. You know.

491
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,079
It's like, I'm sure, God, there's a you know, a

492
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,079
good crossover people who love both bands. Of course, that's

493
00:21:13,079 --> 00:21:15,559
why the tour worked, But I can't imagine that there's

494
00:21:15,599 --> 00:21:19,240
lots of people here who like wouldn't be here for

495
00:21:19,279 --> 00:21:21,480
County Appetation and wouldn't show up to one of their

496
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,920
shows normally, So I was like trying to work out.

497
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,519
I was like, has this like been a you know,

498
00:21:27,759 --> 00:21:29,160
the last time I saw them again was before the

499
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,279
Terror Site album came out.

500
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,079
Speaker 3: Could you miss the last talk because it was, you know,

501
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,400
clashing with the other I.

502
00:21:33,319 --> 00:21:35,279
Speaker 1: Did, Yeah, So I made sure to go see them

503
00:21:35,279 --> 00:21:37,599
this time. But I was like, has there just been

504
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,599
some insane leap in their popularity in terms of like

505
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,799
literally like dub like tripling at least the side of

506
00:21:42,799 --> 00:21:45,839
any of they're playing here from when they were last here,

507
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,359
or is there like I know, tons of Death Corps

508
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,240
fans here who don't normally go to Cowardows. But I

509
00:21:52,279 --> 00:21:53,680
didn't seem that way to be so again, it was

510
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,960
a really interesting trying to gauge. I guess how large

511
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,640
they are based on just the ticket sales and stuff

512
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,640
like that. But you know, obviously a big fun night

513
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,319
out for my first show of the year. Volvadinia South

514
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,000
African slam band. They've been around for ages. They're one

515
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,759
of those slam bands who have like mean pages and

516
00:22:10,799 --> 00:22:12,200
stuff like that, and I kind of remember them from

517
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,319
like ten years ago, but it felt like maybe some

518
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:15,839
kind of an omen that the first band I saw

519
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,599
live this year was a slam band. Maybe that'll carry

520
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,599
forward in terms of aura or something. Revocation I was

521
00:22:21,599 --> 00:22:25,279
excited about because vacation, but sort of between twenty twelve

522
00:22:25,319 --> 00:22:28,640
and twenty fourteen, I had a real era of them

523
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,039
being like one of my favorite bands. And they're still good.

524
00:22:31,079 --> 00:22:32,599
You know, they've always been good, but just that that

525
00:22:32,599 --> 00:22:34,240
little run of records in that time, I was like

526
00:22:34,279 --> 00:22:36,319
super in on. But I never got seen before just

527
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,279
one of those bands. I just never I've seen them

528
00:22:38,319 --> 00:22:40,279
living their good luck. I've just never ever caught them before.

529
00:22:40,319 --> 00:22:41,720
So I was like, oh cool this band I was

530
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,079
like legitimately a huge fan of like over ten years ago.

531
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,480
And obviously they were like the music of Redacents and stuff.

532
00:22:47,519 --> 00:22:51,480
They weren't playing like here Pernhetish are the songs exclusively

533
00:22:51,519 --> 00:22:54,400
that you ridged between two than and twelve twenty and fourteen,

534
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,279
So I didn't see that my masolute favorite ones. But

535
00:22:56,319 --> 00:22:57,640
they did do like YEA when they went into a

536
00:22:58,319 --> 00:23:00,400
Scorched Dearth policy from the Deathless rec was like, I

537
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,119
remember this one. This is a ripper so that it

538
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,880
was just nice to be like, oh cool ticked off there,

539
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,920
And I also liked something that's all about Cat's imputation

540
00:23:07,319 --> 00:23:10,319
is other bands seem to recognize how weird it is

541
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,799
in terms of the vocals and stuff. Because Dave from Rivacation,

542
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,279
Dave Davidson, he he did he did like a like

543
00:23:17,319 --> 00:23:19,160
a little two was like, you know, like give up

544
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:23,039
for evolved in here, who's excited for shadow Intent? And

545
00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:25,920
and he did the thing. Yeah, it's nice to other bands,

546
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,640
I don't know, recognize the distinctness of like what Catt'll

547
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,720
do shadow Intent. So again they were builled as like

548
00:23:32,759 --> 00:23:35,440
the co headliner, even though to me it always sort

549
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,039
of struck me as weird. I was like, are they

550
00:23:37,079 --> 00:23:39,920
that big already? That like they are on par with

551
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,839
cattle who have been around for like way way longer,

552
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,039
Like yeah, before Shadow Intent even formed, cattle were on

553
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,400
like monolith of in humanity, which was like when they

554
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,279
really started to get kind some kind of sizeable momentum

555
00:23:52,279 --> 00:23:56,319
behind them. So they don't have the catalog or I

556
00:23:56,319 --> 00:23:59,039
would say, the kind of esteem that cattle currently have.

557
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:00,680
And that's not really a slant shadow Intent, it's just

558
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,119
cattle are one of the great twenty first century Yes,

559
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,000
the position the band, and I was like, this is

560
00:24:05,079 --> 00:24:08,519
kind of weird and shadow of intent. Again. The crowd

561
00:24:08,519 --> 00:24:11,319
that had come out for this show, where compared to

562
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,599
most death metal shows I go to the crowd even

563
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,920
at normal cattle shows where they're not co headlining with

564
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,039
these kind of type bands and stuff, tends to lean

565
00:24:19,079 --> 00:24:21,200
more in the sort of like death cory, brutal death

566
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,119
metal whatever type direction rather than like the more old

567
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,440
school death metal crowd that I, you know, would maybe

568
00:24:26,559 --> 00:24:29,599
more normally find myself amongst the shows. So you know,

569
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,720
we're talking you know, the the snapbacks and uh you know,

570
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,480
shorts with crazy brutal death bittal logos on that kind

571
00:24:36,519 --> 00:24:38,880
of crowd, and like, you know, those folks were really

572
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,680
like they were up for shadow intent absolutely, and I

573
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,920
was like, okay, cool. You know, this band clearly have

574
00:24:43,079 --> 00:24:46,559
a popularity within this scene and people you know, know

575
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:47,880
them and stuff, and we're going off them and that

576
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,000
was cool to see and they were good, but live

577
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,319
it feels very much like a a lawn a shot,

578
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:59,759
you know, by which I mean like it's accomplished, it's proficient. Yeah,

579
00:25:00,039 --> 00:25:02,160
vocalist is very good and he does like the really

580
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,960
precise Yeah, like it does the gutturals really well and

581
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,240
stuff they can play. They've you know, it's all on tape,

582
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,279
but they've got the big like orchestra kind of sounds

583
00:25:09,799 --> 00:25:13,279
as well, but it's not exciting necessarily.

584
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:14,319
Speaker 3: Uh.

585
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: And again like on record, like when we reviewed their

586
00:25:16,039 --> 00:25:18,119
last album a couple of years ago, which I quite enjoyed,

587
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,440
and I was like, this reminds me of Flesh God

588
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,519
Apocalypse because of how like over the top of the

589
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,119
orchestration and stuff is, but live and in presentation it's

590
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,559
nowhere near a theatrical or something like Flesh God Apocalypse

591
00:25:28,559 --> 00:25:30,440
because it's just a kind of death call guys, you know.

592
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,200
And I was like, if you're going to go really

593
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,519
ott and theatrical with the music, you kind of I

594
00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:36,039
want to show to go go with it in the

595
00:25:36,039 --> 00:25:37,880
same way I would get frohim someone like a flesh.

596
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 2: Gord Or reminds me of as like Brand of Sacrifice

597
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,240
and then another one who have got like all of

598
00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:43,000
that kind of like overland bells and whist stuff. But

599
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,960
when you see it live, it doesn't feel as like BOMBASKI.

600
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,880
It's just like, yeah, it's like defficult guys play.

601
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I you know can compare to what came next.

602
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,160
It was kind of you know again they both bands

603
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,960
had like an hour set and it was more one

604
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,920
dimensional for its hour. It was again very solid and everything.

605
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,839
But what they didn't have in comparison to their you know,

606
00:26:00,279 --> 00:26:03,000
co headliner was Bangers, which brings us on to Cattle

607
00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:04,000
the amputation, which.

608
00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 2: Again that we have like chunter captures and Bangers. I

609
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,119
mean they do at this.

610
00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: Point absolutely because I mean, for a start, when they

611
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,960
were just setting up you know, their stage and everything

612
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,640
and doing the sound check and stuff, there was a

613
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,400
guy who kept appearing on stage and he was like

614
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,759
helping move things around, but he was wearing what I

615
00:26:19,759 --> 00:26:23,319
can only describe as a full like Grasshopper onesie. So

616
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,680
obviously they had the backdrop with the Terror Site album cover. Yeah,

617
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,960
and they had a guy who was dressed essentially like

618
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,200
as Hopper in like this fucking and I was like,

619
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,039
I was like, is this a part of the stage show?

620
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,599
Like have you have? Cattle suddenly got like just again

621
00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:40,920
a very like fucking mascot, a bloodstock third stage type

622
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,559
thing of like gain a Grasshopper mascot man coming out

623
00:26:43,559 --> 00:26:46,000
and being like neckrobicor whatever. He didn't appear during the

624
00:26:46,039 --> 00:26:48,079
show because it turned out when Cattle actually went on stage,

625
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,559
he ran back to the sound booth and he was

626
00:26:49,599 --> 00:26:53,440
their sound guy the entire like set. I could trim

627
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,519
them into the beer. I turned around behind me and

628
00:26:55,519 --> 00:26:57,880
like doing this sound mixing is the guy still wearing

629
00:26:58,039 --> 00:27:00,640
the full And I was like brilliant, love that view.

630
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,519
And they also like between some of the songs and stuff,

631
00:27:03,559 --> 00:27:06,559
they had like a tape and it was like a

632
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,119
David Attenbro boyfriend, like here we see the terror sites

633
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,400
going around doing its business. So that that was fun.

634
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,519
But Cattle, I mean speaking of the bangers. So they

635
00:27:15,559 --> 00:27:18,480
opened with the Carbon Stampede, which is the first track

636
00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:22,160
on Monolthan Humanity, which is still forever my personal favorite record,

637
00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:24,160
one of my favorite records of all time, and that

638
00:27:24,279 --> 00:27:26,200
was wicked, and then they went straight into the Profits

639
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,720
of Loss and then right it's It's one. Though, was

640
00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:30,799
like yeah, when you say, oh, the opening run and

641
00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:32,960
then the opening run just turned into the whole set. Yeah, right,

642
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,839
So Carbon Stampede, the Profits of Lost, We Eat our Young,

643
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,359
Scourge of the Offspring, bring back the Plague one day

644
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,640
closer to the End of the World. That's like the

645
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,880
first fucking half of the set. I like, bring bout

646
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,599
the player is like there, you know, their new biggest

647
00:27:43,599 --> 00:27:44,880
song these days. But they just checked out in the

648
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,839
middle there. They brought the uh, the guy from Shadow

649
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,519
Intent out to do a bit of vocals with them,

650
00:27:49,519 --> 00:27:52,200
But hilariously, it wasn't actually like the chorus bring back

651
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,160
the play kind of. It was just the horrible stinky

652
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,880
bit at the end where they go so that was it,

653
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,319
and they just did that and left. But it was like, oh, yeah,

654
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,839
like shoots, you know, like proper fucking rockers, like throwing

655
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,279
out in the middle again. Somewhere after that will run

656
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,759
force gender reassignment that, yeah, And it was just always killer.

657
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,359
And I thought again after Carbon Stampede and that, I

658
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,480
was like, okay, that'd be a lot from Monoliths so far.

659
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,000
But then to a couple of songs later they throw

660
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,880
out a living breathing piece of defecating me and I

661
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,960
was like, yeah, you know, doing the crazy vocal for

662
00:28:24,039 --> 00:28:26,839
that chorus and stuff like that. And then ending on

663
00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:30,400
they kind of alternate tours now seeming whether they end

664
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,079
on Kingdom of Tyrants from that record or the tattle

665
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,319
track of Death Atlas, which is.

666
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: Like I I'd say that that to me feels that

667
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,240
that would be the closer.

668
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again I'm annoyed I missed the last tour

669
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,839
because that's when they were doing Kingdom of Tyrants, which

670
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,599
is like the fucking greatest thing ever. But you know

671
00:28:43,839 --> 00:28:46,319
it will come back. Death Atlas as like a big

672
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,440
near ten minute actually like really quite emotional. So yeah,

673
00:28:50,079 --> 00:28:52,359
and I was like, this hasn't got the insane like

674
00:28:53,079 --> 00:28:55,039
bells and whistles that like, you know, Shallow and Tent

675
00:28:55,079 --> 00:28:56,920
have in their mix or whenever, but it is actually

676
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,920
more epic and more like more stirring, more stirring and

677
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:05,519
more sweeping and everything. Absolutely, and so just again seeing

678
00:29:06,319 --> 00:29:08,200
a really large venue of people again doing they Bring

679
00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:10,200
Back the Plague and all that kind of stuff, I

680
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,119
was like, I would hope that Cattle could actually play

681
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,200
shows like this kind of on their own merits without

682
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,799
a younger, trendier band alongside them in the kind of

683
00:29:19,799 --> 00:29:22,680
co headlining slot, because they can clearly, I mean fucking

684
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,960
you know, Travis is a god like in terms of

685
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,720
what he does. He's unbelievable. And there was you know

686
00:29:28,759 --> 00:29:30,880
the kind of support there for them. So yeah, that

687
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,839
was like a really fun again, good start to shows

688
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,000
in that regard. Right, let's go to the news and

689
00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:41,000
we are going to largely stick to again the kind

690
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,079
of live environment because there is stuff that I guess

691
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:50,759
demands discussing and demand's opinions on, and we are gonna

692
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:53,279
go I guess first of all, I mean, there are

693
00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:55,480
actually multiple places this week where we could start, but

694
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,039
I guess, you know, we'll start with the biggest, one,

695
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:58,640
big one.

696
00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 3: To our world.

697
00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: Like I mean, in general, it's one of the pretty

698
00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:06,079
much the biggest rock show that will happen this year surely,

699
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,880
but you know, it's been kind of pushed. It's like, oh,

700
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,440
it's going to be something, you know, the greatest show

701
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,359
ever whatever. Someone on the lines Black Sabbath are back

702
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:19,240
for one night only, which we there has been a

703
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,920
thing for a while that whenever we do a special

704
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,839
on a band, they kind of revive in activity. Unfortunately,

705
00:30:23,839 --> 00:30:25,640
if that was really true this time, we're one week

706
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,440
too early for us to make Ian Gillan jokes, because

707
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,359
if we had the Ian Gillen BEV Bevan lineup or

708
00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:36,599
some of the other stuff that's really where my brain

709
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,599
is at and it's greedy, like, oh yeah, people don't

710
00:30:38,599 --> 00:30:44,400
care about that. But Black Sabbath, the original four Geezer Butler,

711
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,400
Tony Naomi, Ozzy Osbourne, bill Ward, Bill of course, being

712
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,440
the guy who was lacking the last time Back Sabbath

713
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,160
were around playing shows, are going to be coming together

714
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,440
for a final show, a fourth or fifth final show

715
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,720
in Birmingham on the fifth of July in Villa Park,

716
00:31:03,799 --> 00:31:07,119
of course, in Birmingham. Considering all the Adam Villa associations

717
00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:11,279
that Black Sabbath has, it is marketed as not only

718
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:16,200
Black Sabbath's final show, but Ozzie Osbourne's final live show

719
00:31:16,319 --> 00:31:20,279
on you know, appearing on stage and as well as

720
00:31:20,319 --> 00:31:24,079
Black Sabbath playing some songs, Ozzie himself is apparently going

721
00:31:24,119 --> 00:31:27,039
to play some a short kind of solo set as

722
00:31:27,079 --> 00:31:29,640
well to kind of offer a last hurrah from there.

723
00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:31,920
And there you go like, wow, okay, that's a pretty

724
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,240
big set. That's and then you read out the rest

725
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,759
of this poster. So the first thing I saw was

726
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,640
there was like the BBC headline and it was like

727
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,079
with Metallica, Slayer and Pantera or something, and I was like, what,

728
00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:46,559
what the fuck. And then I opened the poster and

729
00:31:46,839 --> 00:31:48,599
that's just the top line of it, because we have

730
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:56,079
underneath Black Sabbath and Ossy, Metallica, Slayer, Panterra, Gajerra, Alison, Chains, Hailstorm,

731
00:31:56,279 --> 00:31:59,200
Lamb of God, Anthrax, and masted On. And that's just

732
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,599
the mid card, because then underneath you have additional performances

733
00:32:02,599 --> 00:32:08,400
from Billy Corgan, David Draymond Duff, mccagan, Fred Durst, Lizzie Hale,

734
00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:12,759
Jake E Lee, Jonathan Davis, KK Downing, Mike Bordin, Papa

735
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,640
v Perpetua, Rudy Sarzo, Sammy Hagar, Slash, Sleep, Token two,

736
00:32:18,079 --> 00:32:22,640
Tom Morello, and Wolfgang Van Aleen. And that's the poster

737
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,920
which we have to go on. And then everyone scrambles

738
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,759
to go, Okay, how the fuck does this work? Because

739
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:29,039
the moment you have let alone the guest appearance a bit,

740
00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:30,599
which really I think is the giveaway of what this is,

741
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,359
but even just the bill of bands above it, you go, okay,

742
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,920
So they're playing like three songs each, right, Like, yeah,

743
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,400
this is not like an actual You're going to go

744
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,599
and see a full fucking Alice in Chains or you know,

745
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,839
Anthrax or Massid or whatever type set. It's like they

746
00:32:43,839 --> 00:32:46,799
are going to be appearing for. Whether they'll actually you know,

747
00:32:46,839 --> 00:32:48,720
even be playing their own songs or doing you know,

748
00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:51,680
Sabbath covers or jams or whatever, I don't know yet,

749
00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:56,039
but we are seeing, you know, those short form type things.

750
00:32:56,079 --> 00:32:58,839
I mean, Metallica being again one of the only shows

751
00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:01,759
ever that Metallica turn up. And I guess, like, aren't

752
00:33:01,839 --> 00:33:04,720
top Bill or whatever. But you can imagine me like, yeah,

753
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,960
of course we'll do that for the Sabbath thing. But

754
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,160
I guess the only way that this can work when

755
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,440
you look at the guests as well is my mind

756
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,000
immediately went to, uh, I know, there was the Taylor

757
00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:17,839
Hawkins one as well, but my mind immediately went to

758
00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:20,519
a few years ago there was the Chris Cornell tribute show. Yeah,

759
00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:22,680
and like Metallica at that playing a couple like Soundgarden

760
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,079
songs and stuff, and Miley Cyrus was there and she

761
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,359
sang like a you know, a sound Garden song, and

762
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,640
that kind of revolving table of people coming on and

763
00:33:31,759 --> 00:33:35,759
doing their bit and then dipping is is what it is.

764
00:33:35,759 --> 00:33:36,920
So essentially I look at this and I go, this

765
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,880
isn't like, you know, this shouldn't be confused for like

766
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:43,400
a proper headline type show or even a festival or whatever.

767
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,440
This is one of those kind of like showbiz extravaganzas

768
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,359
like that is yeah, I.

769
00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: Mean I'm guessing like the BIS what's performance is from

770
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,720
and it's the bands like they will have like some

771
00:33:55,839 --> 00:33:57,400
degree of a set.

772
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,279
Speaker 1: I say, is it free song?

773
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 3: Is it fifty in twenty minutes? Like if?

774
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: Depending on how I think starts, and they'll just you know,

775
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,000
come on, they'll rip out something, they'll go and they'll

776
00:34:06,039 --> 00:34:06,200
do that.

777
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 3: And then this one was will they go? These are

778
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:09,920
people who are gonna.

779
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:13,559
Speaker 2: Come out and play with Sabbath and do and help

780
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:16,800
Aussie through the vocals or you know, if you're sleep

781
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,559
Token two, which I think is the guitarist.

782
00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:21,079
Speaker 1: I think it's the guitar. It's the drummer actually from

783
00:34:21,079 --> 00:34:21,920
Ta Tokens the drummer.

784
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:22,599
Speaker 3: It's the drummer.

785
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're you're they might you know, play he

786
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,840
might play drums on the Aussie songs potentially or something

787
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,320
like that, like yeah, however they want to do it

788
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,559
like they like that.

789
00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 3: That to me is what that is.

790
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, you're gonna it's gonna be you know, a big,

791
00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:39,079
long extravaganza thing. But it is gonna be a mixture

792
00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:41,840
of like a couple of Alison Chain songs cool and

793
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,559
then like say Lizzie Hale singing a Black Sabbath song

794
00:34:46,599 --> 00:34:49,119
with them and all of that, and that sounds like

795
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,800
that's gonna be a spectacle to watch.

796
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, no matter how you want to spin.

797
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:57,599
Speaker 2: It, like a getting that four members of Sabbath back together,

798
00:34:58,039 --> 00:35:00,639
big fucking deal, like becausing that Bill was missing on

799
00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:01,239
the last.

800
00:35:01,039 --> 00:35:03,679
Speaker 3: One, Like not under the particularly great circumstance.

801
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: Was there a bit of a there was a lot

802
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,400
of controversy around it, and by the sounds of it,

803
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,800
particularly the other members of you know, it was business stuff,

804
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,079
and I think maybe it was stuff that didn't quite

805
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,719
fall actually to the members of Sabbath entirely read into

806
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,960
that how you will, But basically the other members of Sabbath,

807
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,119
particularly Ozsye and and Tony as well, for years afterwards,

808
00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:26,880
were like, our one regret is that we didn't have

809
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,800
Bill there, and it's a real shame that didn't happened.

810
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,079
And maybe it was fucking engineered all along that they

811
00:35:31,199 --> 00:35:33,320
do a reunion tour without Bill so they could use

812
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,920
an excuse later that they could come in and do

813
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,119
another one with Bill. But there is so much on

814
00:35:39,159 --> 00:35:41,119
this poster I guess for us to like go through

815
00:35:41,159 --> 00:35:45,000
and dissect and kind of make stupid quips about or whatever.

816
00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:47,079
So like let's kind of just go from the top.

817
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,599
Black Sabbath coming back for as said, this will not

818
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,199
be our faull. This won't be you know, if you

819
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,880
saw Black Sabbath in the twenty tens, like I think

820
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,199
we both did right there.

821
00:35:58,639 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 3: I never saw Sabbath as okay, right.

822
00:36:01,039 --> 00:36:02,639
Speaker 1: Well, well I saw Sabbath, and you know many of

823
00:36:02,639 --> 00:36:04,519
people saw them, whether it be a download or the

824
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:06,599
final show they did in Birmingham or whatever it might be.

825
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,639
This won't be that in terms of like a full

826
00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:15,320
set list, headline show from those four guys, because, among

827
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,880
other things, I guess the main thing that might be

828
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,840
going on here is obviously Ozzie's health has stopped him

829
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,679
from playing shows. You know, remember during COVID times, the

830
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,000
whole the amount of times that that tour was like

831
00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:29,599
postponed and then re kind of you know established and

832
00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:33,079
then postponed again whatever, primarily because Ozzie was in not

833
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,320
you know, kind of good enough health to go out

834
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,760
and do that, and that hasn't suddenly changed. Ozzie is

835
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,039
not going to be getting up and doing many more

836
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:45,159
than a handful of songs, either in his Soilo set

837
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,559
or with Black Sabbath. So I imagine that the four

838
00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:53,199
of them together will do like, I don't know, between

839
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,039
three and five.

840
00:36:54,159 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 2: Pigs Paranoid, Yeah, the black sound of title track or

841
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,639
something like that, you know, like, and.

842
00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: Well, the rest this will be is like probably Tony

843
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,960
will be there, you know, manning the guitar for a

844
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,519
lot of it. Maybe Geezer will come out on bass

845
00:37:06,559 --> 00:37:09,159
for a lot of it as well, But the rest

846
00:37:09,159 --> 00:37:11,440
of it will be these other folks that are all here,

847
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,960
all dipping in. So again, just this is just be

848
00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:17,320
aware of what you are buying into, I suppose. And

849
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,840
that's not me, you know, criticizing one thing or I'm

850
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,360
just saying that, you know, know what you're getting into.

851
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,079
It's not a full headline, you know, two hour whatever

852
00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:27,559
Black Sabbath show. It's kind of OSSI appearing for a

853
00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:29,360
handful of songs, maybe build up here for a handful

854
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,360
of songs, and then the rest of it is just

855
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,599
this all star kind of you know, tribute thing going on.

856
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,519
So let's I guess, just talk about the idea of

857
00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:43,519
Black Sabbath coming back yet again. There have been complaints

858
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,199
about Black Sabbath coming back yet again as part of

859
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,440
you know, as we see from so many bands, whether

860
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,960
it be Slayer or Motley Crue or whatever, it might be,

861
00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:55,360
that the endless carousel of reunions and then final shows

862
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,760
and reunions and whatnot forever. And there has also been

863
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,400
a lot of like, but this one with Bill there

864
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,199
with supposedly all the ticket proceeds are going to go

865
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,719
to kind of local Birmingham charities and so on, being

866
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,400
kind of warranted in your eyes. Again, we're in the

867
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,480
midst of doing Black Sabbath stuff, not with these four guys,

868
00:38:18,519 --> 00:38:20,320
but you know, we've got Sabbath on the brain at least.

869
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,199
Was your reaction a kind of like sigh of exasperation

870
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,519
or was it the oh my god excitement that everyone's

871
00:38:27,519 --> 00:38:30,519
sharing this on the Instagram reels kind of puts out there.

872
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of bewilderment to me.

873
00:38:35,559 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 2: What I read this is like, well, if this is

874
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,679
going to be Ozzie's final performance, ever, it would not

875
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,440
feel right if there wasn't some part of it being

876
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,280
sabbath like that?

877
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,119
Speaker 3: That's that was my reading.

878
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: Of it, was like, if this is as as billed

879
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,599
as the final show was, Osbourne is ever going to

880
00:38:51,679 --> 00:38:55,239
play and it again, like I believe that because I

881
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,800
think his health is not going to allow to do.

882
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: I think the question is is is he actually going

883
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,880
to be able to get like yeah, how how fit

884
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,639
is he going to be at this show? Because there

885
00:39:03,679 --> 00:39:05,639
was again today as we were recording this, which is

886
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,199
a day after this show was announced, there's another headline

887
00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:10,480
that was going out and it was like Ozzie's voices

888
00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:12,119
as in as good as shape in ever, but he

889
00:39:12,159 --> 00:39:15,199
can't currently walk, And it's like, so he's probably going

890
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,679
to be just sat down for you know.

891
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,079
Speaker 3: Me sound a throne or something like that.

892
00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:20,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, which, you know, fine, if that's what he's got

893
00:39:20,599 --> 00:39:22,199
to do, then I'm not I'm not shaming him for it.

894
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 3: No, no, me, even not at all.

895
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:30,079
Speaker 1: But like in terms of there is the the irreversible

896
00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:34,159
effects of age and of a certain type of lifestyle, yeah,

897
00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:36,400
and certain types of health decline and whatever. It's like

898
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,199
Ozzie is where he is now in life, and we're

899
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,039
not going to suddenly see that change, like he's going

900
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:45,480
to come out and he's going to do the best

901
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,800
he can at this show if he can make it.

902
00:39:48,199 --> 00:39:51,320
And I don't see. I mean, the fact that he

903
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,320
hasn't played a big you know tour whatever in the

904
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,320
lst kind of five years, I think goes to show

905
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,880
that this kind of has to be it.

906
00:39:57,199 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get we don't know what, but if this

907
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,039
is his fine, if this is Newsli performance, I think

908
00:40:02,639 --> 00:40:04,920
Sabbath would have to be part of it. It would

909
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,000
be wrong if Sabbath were part of the final live

910
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:09,000
going to do.

911
00:40:09,159 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair, and I for me, I was thinking

912
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,719
about the Bill Ward side and the fact that, like

913
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,880
like we said, the other members of Sabbath for several

914
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,440
years now have been going. It's such a shame that

915
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,079
we didn't have Bill there. And if this was to

916
00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:23,800
turn into like a huge you know, round the world

917
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,840
reunion tour whatever like we had in the twenty tens,

918
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,679
which I think.

919
00:40:27,639 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 3: Don't buy for a second there it will well.

920
00:40:29,559 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 1: I can't see it happening because of what we just described,

921
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,280
Like physically, they particularly Ossie, are not going to be

922
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,960
able to do that anymore. I think it has to

923
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,000
be this and that's it. But I do think it's

924
00:40:40,159 --> 00:40:43,440
nice to have Bill involved in there after again the

925
00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:45,960
kind of unfortunate way that he was left out of

926
00:40:46,039 --> 00:40:49,400
the last final shows and so on, and if they want

927
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,320
to come back for one with again giving Ozzie his

928
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,760
kind of last moment and bringing Bill back for a

929
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,639
finale and then as said, giving the proceeds charity whatever. Like,

930
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,679
I'm not going to get upset about that. If you

931
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,400
are upset about it, then you know you're you're you're

932
00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:08,480
entitled to feel that way. You're entitled to look at.

933
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,400
I don't know kind of the cynical way that reunis

934
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,000
in general and the industry seem to work, but I

935
00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:18,119
do think there are cases much much more worth getting

936
00:41:18,159 --> 00:41:20,719
upset about than this particular one, Like I'm not going

937
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,719
to waste my time shaking my fist at Ozzy Osbourne

938
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,599
and Toni Iomi for Darien to get back together for

939
00:41:26,679 --> 00:41:29,159
one last time with Bill Ward or whatever it might be.

940
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,840
Looking down at the rest of this, I guess again,

941
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,599
we have the various guests and so on, and it's

942
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,199
it's a hilarious cast of guests. I think, because it

943
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,239
is I believe it's Tom Morello, who's been labeled as

944
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,360
a sort of like musical coordinator, so it's people who

945
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,679
have been at his invitation, which I don't know. Cass

946
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,599
is in a particularly funny like when you like, okay,

947
00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:48,239
who is Tom Morello? And I guess you know, with

948
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,159
Sabba's help as well invited to be there. It's like, ah, yes,

949
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,199
Fred Dust and David Drayman and all these type people

950
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,719
particularly things of interest in there. I mean, as said

951
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,800
Fred Durst, being there is so fucking mental, like we're

952
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,559
gonna save this because we actually have a question about

953
00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:09,199
like what what Sabbath song would you like to see

954
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:11,480
these people do? And so on, But the idea of

955
00:42:11,519 --> 00:42:14,400
like what vocalist do we get the Sabbath tribute show?

956
00:42:14,639 --> 00:42:18,679
The guy from Limp Biscuit is so funny. David Draymon.

957
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,360
I hope that he gets up and sing some of

958
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,119
War Pigs and says how much he hates war and

959
00:42:22,119 --> 00:42:24,199
how much he completely stands against war, and hope he

960
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,800
really puts his everything into into War Pigs and standing

961
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,800
behind every every word of that. I think it's funny.

962
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,280
It's obviously because she's gonna do some of her own stuff.

963
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,280
And then with Sabbath as well. But the fact that

964
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,239
Hailstorm and Lizzie Hale are separately listed made me giggle.

965
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:42,639
Sleep Token two brackets of sleep token is really funny.

966
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,079
It's like with Vessel busy minting coins that day, Like, like,

967
00:42:48,559 --> 00:42:49,719
is only the drummer.

968
00:42:50,199 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: You asked you could have just done to bracket sleep token,

969
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,079
not sleep token too, bracket sleep token.

970
00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:58,639
Speaker 1: It's such a bizarre Imagine if I know that again

971
00:42:58,679 --> 00:43:00,840
he is a great drummer and everything, And then it's cool.

972
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,000
They've got, you know, some kind of all star musicians

973
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,679
who aren't just like vocalists or whatever, but with a

974
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,440
bad like sleep token. Who are you know anonymous and

975
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,920
the guy who everyone kind of knows is Vessel. Imagine

976
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,599
if Ghosts participation in this was like a nameless gul

977
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:18,559
the basis ghost in a hood gets up, plays, fucking

978
00:43:18,639 --> 00:43:20,239
into the void and fucks off again. I love that.

979
00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:23,760
And then, speaking of Ghost Papa the Perpetua, it has

980
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,960
been noted that that is actually the new you know

981
00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:29,440
kind of album cycle, Papa being named for the first

982
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,840
time before Ghost have actually done it, and you can

983
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,639
infer into that as Elliott's you know, put a compelling

984
00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:39,480
case in our TNN discord that maybe Perpetua is actually

985
00:43:39,559 --> 00:43:41,519
going to be the name of the new ghost album

986
00:43:41,559 --> 00:43:44,280
because they have like the Perpetual Tour and Perpetual Tour

987
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,199
a kind of thing. It falls into a you know,

988
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,519
the line of Latin titles like in Pera and Prequel

989
00:43:49,639 --> 00:43:51,719
and so on. So yeah, I mean I would I

990
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,440
would probably put money on that at this stage that

991
00:43:54,159 --> 00:43:56,000
Perpetua is where we are going with Ghosts. But again,

992
00:43:56,119 --> 00:43:59,519
just a bizarre circumstance that it's been named for the

993
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:03,039
first time in as part of this Black Sabbath announcement.

994
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,559
It's gonna cost fucking seven billion pounds to get there,

995
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:10,559
so I imagine the majority of us are going to be

996
00:44:10,559 --> 00:44:13,760
watching this. I'm treating this as just like a a

997
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,880
spectacle to watch on my phone.

998
00:44:16,119 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be nice if they you know, ended up

999
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:19,960
like streaming or something like that.

1000
00:44:20,199 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd watch that.

1001
00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: But yeah, tickets are going to you know, I've seen

1002
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,320
different theories, but you're going to be looking at like

1003
00:44:27,679 --> 00:44:29,920
approaching two hundred for the cheap seats is the kind

1004
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:30,920
of like general.

1005
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, realistically, when you factor everything in, whether you've got

1006
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,400
to get a hotel, or whatever you're looking at, sort

1007
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,679
of a four or five hundred quid. It's a holiday basically, Yeah,

1008
00:44:40,679 --> 00:44:43,000
I mean contractually obliged. Whenever you have any one of

1009
00:44:43,039 --> 00:44:45,920
these tribute events like this, Wolfgang van Halen has has

1010
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,159
to be there. He's involved in every single one. Yeah,

1011
00:44:49,159 --> 00:44:51,360
I mean, like, would I wish to be I don't know,

1012
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,559
like planted just in that audience to watch it? Yeah,

1013
00:44:55,559 --> 00:44:57,840
I would. I mean it would be like a hell

1014
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,679
of a day. Am I expecting it to be, you know,

1015
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,079
the greatest heavy metal show ever? As they're putting it

1016
00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:06,199
the Sabbath Show to end all Sabbath shows? I mean literally,

1017
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,320
yes it is, but in terms of, you know, the

1018
00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:10,920
performance show, we say no because of what we all

1019
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,239
know about Sabbath at this point in time. Am I

1020
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:19,880
happy that it's happening primarily for Bill Ward's kind of accounts,

1021
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,599
I kind of am, And I would totally be you know,

1022
00:45:24,639 --> 00:45:26,880
I would want to absolutely leave it there at that point,

1023
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,360
But I also think it will be left out at

1024
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,440
that point for all of the practical and health reason

1025
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,119
soul and that we've kind of listed. So yeah, big

1026
00:45:34,199 --> 00:45:38,679
crazy day. Fascinated to see kind of what comes of it.

1027
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,280
I suppose, And you know, it's mad that a Nirvana

1028
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,159
reunion very very briefly is you know, kind of relegated here.

1029
00:45:46,519 --> 00:45:47,760
But I guess it's been a week of those type

1030
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,320
of things, because this is another example of exactly this

1031
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,079
is what it is. Right Because at the fire Aid

1032
00:45:52,199 --> 00:45:56,159
benefit concert this last week, which is you know, raising

1033
00:45:56,159 --> 00:45:57,719
money for the Los Angeles you know fires that have

1034
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:02,159
been kind of going on, we had three fourths of Nirvana.

1035
00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:03,760
You might be thinking, but Navana's a three piece. That's

1036
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,199
because they had Pat Smear, who was part of the

1037
00:46:05,199 --> 00:46:08,320
life bander Nirvana at the end also as part of

1038
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:13,440
it reuniting with a kind of various guest vocalists. And

1039
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,159
this is, I think is a template of exactly what

1040
00:46:15,199 --> 00:46:17,199
you can expect, right, Like this is the kind of

1041
00:46:17,199 --> 00:46:19,920
thing that that Sabbath show will be, right, It'll be

1042
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,679
like some people kind of mucking in and getting together

1043
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,880
and people doing it. But yeah, I mean this is cool,

1044
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,440
like an unexpected Nirvana type thing. They notably it's all

1045
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,960
women vocalists that they got to kind of step in

1046
00:46:33,039 --> 00:46:36,960
fort obviously. And the thing I liked about this is

1047
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,599
I saw a clip. First of all, I think it

1048
00:46:39,639 --> 00:46:42,760
was the Breed with Saint Vincent, and I thought I

1049
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,960
didn't think she sounded all that very good.

1050
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,599
Speaker 3: It was kind of a weird one for Breed for

1051
00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:48,880
a song that's kind of as at it as.

1052
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: Breed is very like, oh, that's kind of off. But

1053
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,360
then I actually looked at the whole set list, and

1054
00:46:54,199 --> 00:46:57,039
if you're going to get Nirvana together, yeah, don't do

1055
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,599
spells like Dean Spirit, don't do in bla bloom or

1056
00:47:00,639 --> 00:47:04,559
lithium or anything like that. Do school and do territorial pissings.

1057
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 3: Get jone Jets, do territorial pissings. That's cool.

1058
00:47:07,559 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then watching the full performance, I think that

1059
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,199
the getting you know, Kim Gordon from Sonic Youth doing

1060
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,239
school that was rowdy. That's cool.

1061
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's saying that though, like the Kim Gordon

1062
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,440
and the Jone job Wones was like those probably like

1063
00:47:18,519 --> 00:47:20,599
the two parts of performance. Was like those are the

1064
00:47:20,599 --> 00:47:24,360
best partsic me because again like hard hitting, rowdy songs

1065
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,519
with like vocals who are like a bit more at it.

1066
00:47:27,679 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously this is this is essentially just a novelty.

1067
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,400
There's nothing further coming of this mental to assume. So,

1068
00:47:34,639 --> 00:47:37,760
but in a weird way it adds into Nevada that

1069
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,280
they turn up something like this and then just play

1070
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,440
school in territorial pissings and songs in that kind of

1071
00:47:41,519 --> 00:47:43,639
vein and then leave. So there you go. We also

1072
00:47:43,679 --> 00:47:48,559
had the Grammys that happened this past week with all

1073
00:47:48,679 --> 00:47:51,840
of the associated stuff to talk about in regards to

1074
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,639
who won the rock and metal categories and general appearances

1075
00:47:55,679 --> 00:48:00,960
there and so on. So like, the the rock categories

1076
00:48:01,039 --> 00:48:03,559
are fucking abysmal, even more than the metal ones. Like

1077
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:05,519
we complained about the metal ones, but the metal one

1078
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,360
is like the diamond in the rough of the overall

1079
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,880
there is there is metal in the metal. Yeah, the

1080
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,400
overall rock categories and alternate our dog shit. And I

1081
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,559
think the fact that like the Rolling Stones one, like

1082
00:48:16,679 --> 00:48:19,320
the was it the best rock album or whatever, poor,

1083
00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:22,320
but the one that is most revant to us best

1084
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,920
Metal Performance was won by Gajira for their Maya Culpa

1085
00:48:26,519 --> 00:48:30,760
kind of reworking of a French Revolution song that they

1086
00:48:31,039 --> 00:48:32,800
performed at the Olympics. And then there was that kind

1087
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,000
of recorded version they put out on streaming afterwards, wasn't there?

1088
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 3: This?

1089
00:48:36,519 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 1: Of course, beat Out not Loose and Poppies Suffocate due

1090
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,119
to the Preeze, Crown of Horns, Metallica's Screaming Suicide, and

1091
00:48:43,159 --> 00:48:47,400
Spirit Boxes Cellar Door. And I think most people, I

1092
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,280
guess who listened to us were probably like pulling for,

1093
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,000
like not loose to win, just because it's like they've

1094
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:52,800
had the big moment.

1095
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,639
Speaker 3: You know, it's the new band as well.

1096
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, really fucking heavy song there, the Kimmel thing. It's

1097
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,480
just generally exciting. It probably is the best track of

1098
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,519
the particular. I do really love Crown of Horns from

1099
00:49:01,599 --> 00:49:04,519
Judas Priest, but you know, most peop probably pot I

1100
00:49:04,519 --> 00:49:08,360
theyre not loose. But Goodyearra winning for this. I we

1101
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,559
actually we watched it, which you know, don't make a

1102
00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:13,519
habit necessarily doing, but we just like had there was

1103
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:15,000
just like a YouTube streamers like it would just put

1104
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,719
that on in the background whatever. And they announced the

1105
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,280
best metal thing. It was like, yeah, Goodyearra and they

1106
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,519
said it, and I almost didn't react because I was like, yeah, okay,

1107
00:49:21,519 --> 00:49:23,360
you know, good Year a big popular band, great whatever.

1108
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,159
And then as they were walking up, I realized, E've

1109
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,639
not done this before, like this is good Jera's first win.

1110
00:49:31,039 --> 00:49:33,880
And as they went up and they went on stage

1111
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,280
and there was Joe and Mario Deplantier and yeah, you know,

1112
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,119
talking doing their speech, really.

1113
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 2: Good speech about like sporting, like DIY music and all

1114
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:43,559
that shit like that.

1115
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: And I had this, like I don't know, in the

1116
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,639
span about thirty seconds they announce it and I was like, yeah, okay, cool,

1117
00:49:47,639 --> 00:49:50,280
good Year fine. Good to then see them on stage

1118
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,440
of being like hang on, no, wait, that's good Yearra,

1119
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,719
Like oh fucking band, Goodyearra winning for the first time,

1120
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,679
because it's It's the thing with the Grammys where for

1121
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,000
us we almost imagine good Year are having won this

1122
00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:04,280
ten to fifteen years ago when they should have, you know,

1123
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,599
but then you go, oh no, this is their first win.

1124
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,119
And then I like just having it on there. In

1125
00:50:09,159 --> 00:50:11,320
the space of about thirty seconds, I went from not

1126
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,960
caring to actually getting sort of emotional, being like yeah, Goodyearra.

1127
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I mean, I'm out of the bunch, like

1128
00:50:18,519 --> 00:50:20,079
probably would have liked to not lose to win. I'm

1129
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:22,639
also like I kind of didn't want to lose Spirals

1130
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,519
because it would have wound up the most annoying people.

1131
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,719
So like part of me was like that, but I'm

1132
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,119
happy Gadera one because again it is overdue. I don't

1133
00:50:30,119 --> 00:50:32,320
care for the Grammys, but fuck it if Goadura are

1134
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,360
going to get a nod, I'm always happy to see

1135
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,199
Gadjeera get recognition because they're fucking good Yearra and they've

1136
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:41,920
been one of the most like important, progressive, forward thinking

1137
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,440
bands of odd sort of time awesome, like happy with

1138
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,880
that and again, this was a fucking moment in Metal

1139
00:50:48,039 --> 00:50:50,280
good Youra's performance. That's that's the reason why they should

1140
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,440
have won in a way. This was a fucking moment

1141
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,639
of them getting on like the biggest stage metals been

1142
00:50:54,639 --> 00:50:57,400
platformed on in a while and doing the coolest thing

1143
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:58,440
in that opening ceremony.

1144
00:50:58,599 --> 00:51:02,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you in for Kajira in the you know,

1145
00:51:02,199 --> 00:51:04,920
the span of kind of Grammy results and so on

1146
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,559
are better than than the usual one, I suppose, so

1147
00:51:09,679 --> 00:51:10,840
good there. But the best things to come out of

1148
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,519
the Grammys in regard to our scene was of course

1149
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,519
the incident with courting the Plant of spirit Box, who

1150
00:51:16,639 --> 00:51:19,400
on the red carpet was interviewed from someone going so

1151
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,079
poppy you're here nominating with not loose and courtly the

1152
00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:27,519
Plant like an absolute shamp. Spirit Box are so likable,

1153
00:51:27,559 --> 00:51:30,119
like whenever I like see interviews over them they just

1154
00:51:30,119 --> 00:51:32,079
they always come across really really well. I think, you know,

1155
00:51:32,199 --> 00:51:35,480
just that they seem like good ambassadors Corny.

1156
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 2: You know, it's because she's been about in the scene

1157
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,159
for fucking ages through like I Rest of the Bear

1158
00:51:39,199 --> 00:51:41,679
Wants and other project. So she's clearly like had her

1159
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,920
time of like grinding and so you just kind of

1160
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:44,480
not forgot that.

1161
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like but very genuine. But like you know,

1162
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,800
on top on top of you know, of being kind

1163
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,639
of one of the better bands in that scene in general,

1164
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,719
of those kind of you very popular medical bands, they

1165
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:54,880
seem like some of them.

1166
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:55,599
Speaker 3: They far more likable.

1167
00:51:55,639 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're really really like, well, it seemed like good people.

1168
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,599
So I'm always hapy to see him about. But Courtney

1169
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,880
just rolling with it and basically doing it's a repeat

1170
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,199
of you know, people out there might know what I'm

1171
00:52:06,199 --> 00:52:08,760
talking about. This happened almost beat for beat with Charlie

1172
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,440
XX and Lord a couple of years ago, where Charlie

1173
00:52:11,519 --> 00:52:13,559
XCX was like, yes, I'm Lord. This song is about

1174
00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:16,639
how I'm from New Zealand and I come from my

1175
00:52:16,679 --> 00:52:20,920
small town in New Zealand. Because that for metalcore girlies,

1176
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,119
I suppose just rolling with Yeah, I'm poppy. I'm really

1177
00:52:24,159 --> 00:52:26,920
happy to be here with with with not loose. I'm

1178
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,760
definitely poppy. And you can see like the flicker in

1179
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,679
her face of like, am I doing this? Am I

1180
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,280
going with this? Is it's wonderful?

1181
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 3: Yeah? It was.

1182
00:52:35,559 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: I mean it frustrates me because I was like, do

1183
00:52:38,199 --> 00:52:41,039
your like the most basic research for fux sake, give

1184
00:52:41,039 --> 00:52:42,599
you an interviewer. I like a lot of people point

1185
00:52:42,599 --> 00:52:44,000
I was like, this is what this what you get

1186
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,440
when you send influences onto these things and not actual like.

1187
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, all the comments where it's like, oh, you know,

1188
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,480
I'd be the first one of the first women to

1189
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,679
win or whatever, and it's like, there's two women nominating

1190
00:52:52,679 --> 00:52:54,559
in the country. I suppose three because Kaja is not

1191
00:52:54,679 --> 00:52:58,039
pre singer was also yes, there, but like it's two

1192
00:52:58,199 --> 00:53:00,239
kind of vaguely old looking women with black hair, and

1193
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:01,599
they just get them completely.

1194
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, well done. But no, Corny is

1195
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,119
really funny in this sort of thing, just like she's

1196
00:53:08,199 --> 00:53:10,800
just I'm supprised she didn't break. I was like, she's

1197
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,239
gonna break at some point, like the cat and she

1198
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,199
she just keeps it together and they've kind of all

1199
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,199
kind of rolled of it like Poppy's done the I'm

1200
00:53:18,199 --> 00:53:21,159
Poppy merch of like Courtney on it, like like that

1201
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,800
they've they've clearly both Poppy and Courtney have had a

1202
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,800
good lie about this in Hein, and so I was like,

1203
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:27,920
let's let's let you know, make a bit of this

1204
00:53:28,119 --> 00:53:28,960
and good on them.

1205
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: I liked it where she really carefully she kind of

1206
00:53:31,559 --> 00:53:34,360
chooses her words very deliberate so that she's not actually lying.

1207
00:53:34,599 --> 00:53:37,280
She says something like, uh, you know, it was really

1208
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,280
cool like for our whole scene, actually it was really

1209
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:43,000
cool the performance on Jimmy Kimmel, and it's like she's

1210
00:53:43,039 --> 00:53:45,360
actually she's not lying there. She's saying, like you know,

1211
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,440
as a person in that scene who probably watched that

1212
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,079
and thought, wow, that's really really great, she's kind of

1213
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,800
maneuvering it into like she's actually speaking the truth there

1214
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,239
about like, yeah, it was really cool watching not loose

1215
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,360
and Poppy play on Jimmy Kimble which she's just very

1216
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:01,480
deliberately chosen her words. Yeah, wonderful stuff, excellent, excellent work.

1217
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,599
So let's try and just very quickly, like with a

1218
00:54:05,639 --> 00:54:07,320
sentence of peace, kind of fly through most of the

1219
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,440
rest of what's going on this week. But we have

1220
00:54:09,559 --> 00:54:12,599
one piece of new music to talk about, which is

1221
00:54:12,599 --> 00:54:15,440
the new single from Stray from the Path. They've also

1222
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:16,840
announced that they're going to be playing in London like

1223
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,480
next week, hopefully going to go to that. But they've

1224
00:54:19,519 --> 00:54:22,960
dropped a new single. It's called Cubrick Stare, and this

1225
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,800
is a big, rowdy straight from the Path fair but

1226
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:30,119
it has this like very deliberate They've gone the kind

1227
00:54:30,159 --> 00:54:31,599
of like we're going to try and make a horror

1228
00:54:31,639 --> 00:54:35,599
sounding riff with like dissonant, scratchy, scary noises and stuff.

1229
00:54:35,639 --> 00:54:38,440
But bizarrely, when you put that on like really fucking

1230
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,119
like you know banger balances straight from the part like

1231
00:54:41,199 --> 00:54:43,039
I do, it has the effect to me of almost

1232
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:45,840
sounding like this this is sound gonna sound more condemning

1233
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,480
than I believe it to be because I like the track,

1234
00:54:47,639 --> 00:54:49,719
but it almost has that like new metal floor filler

1235
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:50,719
kind of spooky cor.

1236
00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 2: Thing I could add the same thing. I mean, I

1237
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,320
was just like, yep, this is straight from the half banger.

1238
00:54:55,519 --> 00:54:57,679
But I was like I'm fine with that. You know,

1239
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,239
no one kind of offers that that specific thing of

1240
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,440
like raising scene tinged hardcore that straight from the path too.

1241
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,159
Speaker 3: So they're like a lot of bones. You need the

1242
00:55:05,199 --> 00:55:05,599
nmail thing.

1243
00:55:05,679 --> 00:55:08,159
Speaker 2: But like they just they come back every a couple

1244
00:55:08,199 --> 00:55:10,000
years and they drop this off thing and I'll go

1245
00:55:10,039 --> 00:55:12,159
with it like that walk it off kind of hook

1246
00:55:12,199 --> 00:55:14,760
on the chorus, cool and it just pops off with

1247
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:15,559
that spooky riff.

1248
00:55:15,639 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1249
00:55:16,039 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 1: Yes, ac DC are actually they're bringing their Power Up

1250
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:23,719
Tour back around again, this time in the UK at least,

1251
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,360
only playing Edinburgh at the moment, but if you are

1252
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:27,880
in Edinburgh or you want to go up to Edinburgh

1253
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,199
to the ac DC, you could do so. And we

1254
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,679
have had if you know, all that announcement was not enough,

1255
00:55:32,679 --> 00:55:34,800
We've had a barrage in the last few days of

1256
00:55:35,039 --> 00:55:37,960
you know, UK festival announcements. So first of all, Outbreak

1257
00:55:38,199 --> 00:55:41,719
have announced first of all that Glass Jaw are going

1258
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,280
to be performing at this year's event Outbreak. You remember

1259
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,719
this year is actually split across There is a London

1260
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,440
Day and then there is also the full event happening

1261
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,679
in Manchester. But Glassjow are going to be playing sets

1262
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,320
themed around everything you ever wanted to know about Silence

1263
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,320
and Worship in tribute. I believe at the Manchester they

1264
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,519
are actually playing both records in full on on the

1265
00:56:03,559 --> 00:56:05,920
two days the London thing, I guess you're getting a

1266
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,199
mixed in kind of best of both.

1267
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 3: It will be like the what first they did for

1268
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,039
the war all the time.

1269
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean obviously for the for the big

1270
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,199
Glass your fans out there, that's like amazing news. I

1271
00:56:16,199 --> 00:56:18,519
mean everything you everyone know about silence in full gonna

1272
00:56:18,559 --> 00:56:23,119
have a lot of good questionable words being thrown around.

1273
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:27,559
Speaker 2: That they've done this before, but outbreak, you know, everyone's

1274
00:56:27,559 --> 00:56:31,119
about silence without a barrier. That's gonna be like, you know,

1275
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,519
as much as some of those lyrics are dated, that's

1276
00:56:33,519 --> 00:56:34,519
gonna go fucking yea.

1277
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: You can have your half hour misogyny as a treat.

1278
00:56:37,519 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 3: And elsewhere by comfort misogyny.

1279
00:56:39,599 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: Comfort misogyny. Leave it to me. But we also have

1280
00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:44,800
again I saw the glass thing. Oh you know cool,

1281
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,960
you know, big Glass, your thing. But there's also plenty

1282
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,079
of other announcements below that, and.

1283
00:56:48,039 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 2: They've announced the full Manchester lineup is all out there now.

1284
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. And the fact that Glass Yew kind of stole

1285
00:56:54,039 --> 00:56:57,039
the thunder from Terror on this who you know, Terror

1286
00:56:57,079 --> 00:56:59,000
like you know, very reliable always around or whatever, but

1287
00:56:59,039 --> 00:57:03,639
like I imagine like seeing Terror at an Outbreak is surely like.

1288
00:57:03,639 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 2: They were because they did it in twenty twenty two

1289
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,119
and it was like just like what it felt like

1290
00:57:08,159 --> 00:57:09,000
it was meant to be.

1291
00:57:09,199 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and now it's even big on the outdoor stage.

1292
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, go on. Yeah, I've seen Terror before, but I

1293
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:14,880
was really I'm a bigger fan now than I was

1294
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,400
at the time then as well, but like also just

1295
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,000
like seeing Terror like actually in their home environment, so

1296
00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:20,840
to speak, like that would be great. And they've also

1297
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,280
announced a bunch of other stuff Big Boy, Pest Control.

1298
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,599
Speaker 3: X, WEAPONX is a really cool one, you like you

1299
00:57:26,719 --> 00:57:27,360
real hardcore?

1300
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff there. And then we also have the

1301
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,079
new additions to two thousand Trees Festival who they have

1302
00:57:34,199 --> 00:57:36,760
added like a good was it like a good thirty

1303
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,320
forty bands or something I've been added on.

1304
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 3: To announced all like the day splits and everything. So far.

1305
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have forty five new bands added to two

1306
00:57:44,239 --> 00:57:49,320
thousand Trees Festival and looking down this I mean two Trees,

1307
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,320
we've discussed the headliners and that it is looking like

1308
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,800
I think, you know, a pretty appealing year of two

1309
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,400
thousand Trees with the likes of for Lex on Fire

1310
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:59,320
and Cohitting Canbero and so on up there adding on

1311
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,239
a unched this stuff. I mean, most of it isn't

1312
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,559
necessarily like the stuff that I am like super super

1313
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,480
o fa or like really really into, but it seems

1314
00:58:08,599 --> 00:58:10,880
very right for the Trees, you know, kind of demographic

1315
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,239
as they always are. You have to absolutely give them

1316
00:58:13,239 --> 00:58:16,039
that they know what they're doing in that regard. And

1317
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,559
I mean particularly as there's a Wednesday that's been added

1318
00:58:19,079 --> 00:58:20,880
that just feels like, I don't know, like a who's

1319
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,239
who of like the two thousand Trees corner I suppose

1320
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,119
of yeah, what you would consider vaguely TNM kind of

1321
00:58:27,159 --> 00:58:29,719
bands where the blood command of their you know, unpeople

1322
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,519
and Vour who are a couple of kind of upcoming

1323
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,159
UK bands featuring members of some old favorites Haggard Cat

1324
00:58:35,159 --> 00:58:39,079
of their Grove streak. They've got Meryl streak there, like you.

1325
00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:40,199
There's a whole bunch of just not being out of

1326
00:58:40,199 --> 00:58:43,119
there again looking at the main kind a few days

1327
00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:45,599
and the logos and the post and whatnot. Again, it's

1328
00:58:45,639 --> 00:58:47,960
not all necessarily one hundred percent my thing, but they

1329
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,880
are slotting in kind of pretty nicely below those like,

1330
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,119
you know, big kind of headline grabbing bands and so

1331
00:58:54,199 --> 00:58:58,440
on and also that we have Arctangent Festival, the you

1332
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,480
know sister festival of two thousand Trees, very greedily announcing

1333
00:59:01,679 --> 00:59:04,920
a bunch of bands the same week as well. First

1334
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,400
of all, adding a couple of the headliners. Tessa Rat

1335
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:10,719
are there on the Saturday, and war Drouner, who we

1336
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,239
you know reviewed their new record last month, are going

1337
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,840
to be headlining the first night, the Wednesday night. And

1338
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,920
then there is also added beneath that are a bunch

1339
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,039
of bands where they've got a clown core back after

1340
00:59:22,159 --> 00:59:24,559
they were due to play a couple years ago and

1341
00:59:24,559 --> 00:59:26,800
they had to drop off. Leprous are there, always amazing

1342
00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:30,320
Sliffed arab Strap, which was one of Elliott's favorite records

1343
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,000
of the year, Green Lung are there, and yeah, I mean,

1344
00:59:33,039 --> 00:59:34,800
looking at this bunch of headliners and stuff, it's not

1345
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,559
actually like my in terms of headliners. I mean, I

1346
00:59:37,599 --> 00:59:39,800
love Wardrouner, I'm gonna be seen in a couple months,

1347
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,599
but the headliners aren't really what's grabbing me here because

1348
00:59:41,599 --> 00:59:43,800
in terms of like the Tessarat, Canna all the type

1349
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,360
of thing, it's that sort of end of prog metal

1350
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,320
that I don't always really go into. But look at

1351
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,920
the undercard and the stuff they've added. They've added inter rama,

1352
00:59:50,159 --> 00:59:53,079
They've added Ahab, They've got you know again, Green Lung

1353
00:59:53,119 --> 00:59:56,679
aer on there. Envy are on there, so it's like

1354
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,000
again looking like a very taste. I mean, Horrendous are

1355
00:59:59,039 --> 01:00:00,599
on there, which is actually, yeah, a bit of a

1356
01:00:00,679 --> 01:00:03,079
coup because Horrendous have never played the UK before and

1357
01:00:03,079 --> 01:00:03,440
they've been.

1358
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:04,599
Speaker 3: Around for like I never played the UK.

1359
01:00:04,719 --> 01:00:06,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe one of those American bands I thought I

1360
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:08,679
didn't know if i'd ever get to see or whatever.

1361
01:00:08,719 --> 01:00:10,559
And I'm good on the uck tangent folks for I

1362
01:00:10,559 --> 01:00:13,239
don't know, throwing enough money at Horrendous for whatever reason

1363
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:14,840
to get in the come over here. And if they

1364
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,199
were to play some more UK shows around it, then

1365
01:00:17,239 --> 01:00:19,480
I would. I would definitely owe James Scarlett a pint

1366
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,039
if Horrendous played like a few more shows around this.

1367
01:00:23,239 --> 01:00:26,199
So there you go. If you are over in California,

1368
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,880
then Acid Bath The Continued Adventures of Acid Bath added

1369
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,199
a couple of fucking unbelievably good looking shows over in

1370
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,119
LA where the first one they are being supported with

1371
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,119
High on Fire and Windhand, which Acid Bath and High

1372
01:00:40,159 --> 01:00:44,280
on Fire is like arguably the two greatest ludge metal

1373
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,159
bands of all time right there that sold out immediately.

1374
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:48,960
There's a second show that I Am Adam will also

1375
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,840
probably have sold out immediately by the time this goes

1376
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,119
out there, but with Pig Destroyer and the obsessed.

1377
01:00:54,639 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 3: Acid Bath and Pig Destroyers, just like do you want

1378
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,159
a horrible noise? You know, an evening.

1379
01:01:00,719 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: Like So Cool, So Good, and Baroness have also announced.

1380
01:01:05,719 --> 01:01:08,639
I saw they'd announced this as like a festival date

1381
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:10,519
and I thought, all that'd be cool to see, but

1382
01:01:10,519 --> 01:01:12,639
they've now actually expanded it into like, you know, a

1383
01:01:12,679 --> 01:01:15,119
full tour where they are going to be playing a

1384
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:19,199
Red and Blue album themed tour, highlighting those two records,

1385
01:01:19,679 --> 01:01:22,400
and like, I love those two records, particularly the Red

1386
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,519
album was the first Baroness you know material that I

1387
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:27,639
kind of fell in love with, and there's a lot

1388
01:01:27,679 --> 01:01:29,599
of stuff on that album, you know, outside of Isaac,

1389
01:01:29,599 --> 01:01:31,039
which they always play, which I would love to see,

1390
01:01:31,079 --> 01:01:32,840
like you know, Wonder Last and tracks like that. So

1391
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,239
it'll be amazing seeing a Red and Blue show that's

1392
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,559
going around the US right now. And also if you

1393
01:01:38,639 --> 01:01:41,760
are over in Ireland and you like that particular corner

1394
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,239
of Irish extreme metal that we talk about on the

1395
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,199
show sometimes. Primordial have announced that they are going to

1396
01:01:47,199 --> 01:01:50,960
be doing currently a one off club show in October

1397
01:01:51,159 --> 01:01:52,880
in Dublin where they are going to be doing a

1398
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,159
special set themed heavily around the album Spirit, The Earth

1399
01:01:56,199 --> 01:01:58,800
of Flame, The Gathering Wilderness and to the Nameless Deads.

1400
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,360
That's three of their classic albums doing a kind of

1401
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,480
special theme set there. And the Gathering Wilderness in particular

1402
01:02:04,639 --> 01:02:06,760
is like one of my top three albums of all time.

1403
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,760
And I'm wondering, like, I've never been to Ireland before.

1404
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,039
Do I fly over to Dublin just to go to that?

1405
01:02:12,079 --> 01:02:14,320
I don't know, it'd be amazing. But there you go.

1406
01:02:14,599 --> 01:02:17,559
Whole load of news. We are going to extend this

1407
01:02:17,639 --> 01:02:21,119
a little bit further because we also are bringing back questions,

1408
01:02:21,199 --> 01:02:23,159
which I said that we would do last week, and

1409
01:02:23,199 --> 01:02:25,159
then obviously with some of the announcements this week, we've had,

1410
01:02:25,639 --> 01:02:28,880
you know, some questions primarily relating to those. We've got

1411
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,400
a whole bunch of questions. If you asked one that

1412
01:02:31,559 --> 01:02:34,119
is not here, I do kind of take note of them,

1413
01:02:34,159 --> 01:02:35,880
so we may return to it. But I guess we're

1414
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,119
primarily focusing on the ones that are relating to the

1415
01:02:38,199 --> 01:02:40,480
subjects of the news today that we will come back

1416
01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:43,760
to the other ones. So Johnny Bass actually asked the

1417
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,320
one question that's not related to that, but I suppose

1418
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,639
we should throw it in here just very quickly before

1419
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,239
all the twenty twenty five albums come in. Any twenty

1420
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,360
twenty four highlights discovered from other end of year lists, Sam,

1421
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:55,639
anything that you kind of picked on from last year,

1422
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:56,679
I went, yeah, that's good.

1423
01:02:58,079 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 2: So I did finally get on to listen to the

1424
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:03,800
Row Republic album. I like, as a party, that's a

1425
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,039
good that's a good time. Now after I like, after

1426
01:03:06,119 --> 01:03:07,719
how much marks on it, and yeah, every time it

1427
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:09,360
kind of came up with the interviews and be like, yeah,

1428
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:10,360
it's so good, it's so fun.

1429
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 3: I was like, I should give that listen and yeah

1430
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:13,880
good time, wow.

1431
01:03:13,719 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: Wow wow, yeah yeah, I'm not like especially for me here,

1432
01:03:17,119 --> 01:03:19,840
I gave the I'd heard the album already, but after

1433
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:21,760
Elliott was like so huge, and I went back and

1434
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,800
I gave the Bloody Keep album another listen, and it

1435
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,639
is just good fun. Because of course I like sort

1436
01:03:27,639 --> 01:03:30,280
of Castle Dungeon, you know, cheeky rats on the cover,

1437
01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:32,960
black metal like that, you know. I wouldn't certainly as

1438
01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:34,880
highly as he did, but as like his number three

1439
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:36,079
album of the year or something like. You know, there

1440
01:03:36,119 --> 01:03:38,280
are plenty of other Black Metre oubs from that year

1441
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:39,639
that I prefer. But it's a it's a good time,

1442
01:03:39,679 --> 01:03:41,800
I can't deny it. So I have absolutely having a

1443
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,039
nice old time with Bloody keep in that regard, but

1444
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:47,599
no otherwise in terms of like totally new discoveries, hasn't

1445
01:03:47,639 --> 01:03:50,000
been one that's like fully come my way yet. Either

1446
01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:52,039
I was very very good at keeping on top of things,

1447
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,400
or you know, that will come a little bit down

1448
01:03:54,679 --> 01:03:57,440
the pipeline. But there's our last little twenty twenty four

1449
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,400
I guess you know, cap off in that regard. So

1450
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:04,280
let's move on to Brad Stratton asks, thinking of how

1451
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:08,079
well received the Trivium Bullet Tour has been received, which

1452
01:04:08,239 --> 01:04:11,159
bands would you love to see celebrate twenty years of

1453
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,480
formative albums with a tour themed around said record in

1454
01:04:14,559 --> 01:04:18,000
the next couple of years. Ozzie get out for a

1455
01:04:18,079 --> 01:04:22,400
Black Rain twentieth anniversary tour? The people demand it, no,

1456
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,960
I think they. It's a funny question this because when

1457
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,559
you say, I'm obviously it's been limited to you know,

1458
01:04:28,679 --> 01:04:30,960
twenty years because we're thinking the kind of era of

1459
01:04:31,519 --> 01:04:33,920
the poison and desensity and so on, so I guess

1460
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:35,480
we're thinking, you know, it's two thousand and five, two

1461
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:39,039
thousand and seven ish kind of time of things. They

1462
01:04:39,159 --> 01:04:41,280
nailed this package pitch perfectly, like whatever you want to

1463
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,559
say about one band versus the other, like those two

1464
01:04:43,639 --> 01:04:47,440
records together and actually being something that like you can

1465
01:04:47,519 --> 01:04:50,159
do that as a big arenatur and it will reliably

1466
01:04:50,239 --> 01:04:53,000
fill them and stuff like that. I think they really

1467
01:04:53,039 --> 01:04:57,679
obviously they absolutely perfected the kind of pairing there, and

1468
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:01,599
thinking of like realistically else could go out on a

1469
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,920
at least a similar sort of scale or whatever. It's

1470
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:05,639
kind of interesting.

1471
01:05:06,519 --> 01:05:08,079
Speaker 2: I mean, like you were the only around that, you know,

1472
01:05:08,119 --> 01:05:09,360
if you wanted to round into like a tree, you

1473
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,360
could have thrown like Avenge doing City of Evil or

1474
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:12,639
something like that, that would have been like.

1475
01:05:13,159 --> 01:05:14,519
Speaker 1: That would have become a stadium show at that point.

1476
01:05:14,599 --> 01:05:14,800
Sure that.

1477
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, But if you were like the perfect trifecta of

1478
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,119
those kind of like two thousand and five metal core.

1479
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 3: Adjacent records, you throw you throw that in there.

1480
01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, I was thinking about this and not really

1481
01:05:24,639 --> 01:05:28,519
actually like looking at it like like kill Switch doing,

1482
01:05:28,639 --> 01:05:31,000
you know, and as Day like dies, but again, do

1483
01:05:31,039 --> 01:05:32,760
you need to do much something like that? Yeah?

1484
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:33,039
Speaker 3: Cool?

1485
01:05:33,239 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 2: Like like like would I want to see i know,

1486
01:05:36,079 --> 01:05:38,000
obviously the Black Parade ones coming up and all that,

1487
01:05:38,079 --> 01:05:40,280
And I'm like, again, I'm like, do I am I

1488
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,079
that fuss about seeing me Grumitt squeeze into Black Parade jackets?

1489
01:05:43,159 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 3: And that actually not that fussed about that?

1490
01:05:46,079 --> 01:05:47,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, because this is the thing. The question here

1491
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,559
is kind of is sort of asking like what nostalgia'd

1492
01:05:50,599 --> 01:05:52,800
like pick more nostalgia to kind of do, and again,

1493
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:54,840
in the right environments, I'm not against it or whatever,

1494
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,760
but like it was a funny question, but I was thinking,

1495
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,440
you know, we were talking earlier today just privately with

1496
01:06:01,519 --> 01:06:04,159
the other you know, T and M guys. We were

1497
01:06:04,199 --> 01:06:07,360
talking about like the when Trivia did the Shogun thing

1498
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:08,719
a few years ago, which was not playing the full

1499
01:06:08,719 --> 01:06:10,760
album in its entirety in the way they did here.

1500
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,960
It was just like, here's a few kind of deep

1501
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,639
cuts for like, you know, the hard corealts who really

1502
01:06:15,679 --> 01:06:18,960
want it. And I was thinking, like, you know, Showgun

1503
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,519
sort of combined with the Crusade with the best of

1504
01:06:22,559 --> 01:06:24,599
because there is a even though They're two very different

1505
01:06:24,599 --> 01:06:26,920
albums in terms of how they are esteemed. There is

1506
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:30,119
a sort of kinship between those albums at times, you know,

1507
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,320
Showgun with they're also playing You're Becoming the Dragons and

1508
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,320
Conflagrations and so on, like would be wicked. But I

1509
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,360
don't want that from Trivia now because they've just done

1510
01:06:39,519 --> 01:06:41,920
They See and they did did little Showgun deep cut things.

1511
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,480
So after this, I want them to get back on

1512
01:06:43,599 --> 01:06:47,199
you know, the kind of that where they current and

1513
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,320
so thinking about like, you know what else is actually

1514
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:50,840
of a similar scale. The only one I could come

1515
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,760
up with is I imagine in a couple of years

1516
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,159
time when we get to twenty twenty seven, there must

1517
01:06:55,239 --> 01:06:58,360
be thoughts going on around the Blackening and twenty years

1518
01:06:58,400 --> 01:06:59,000
of that.

1519
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, actually, yeah, that's that's the answer. Is the Blackening,

1520
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:03,079
isn't it?

1521
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean in terms of something realism that

1522
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,400
you know, could happen, that could have a big fuss

1523
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:08,960
made about it in a similar way to us we've

1524
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:09,840
seen with poisons.

1525
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 2: If you wanted to, like do Arenas by themselves again,

1526
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,440
the Blackening in full cells.

1527
01:07:14,199 --> 01:07:16,119
Speaker 1: Out, like yeah, So that's the only one I could

1528
01:07:16,119 --> 01:07:17,519
come up with them, Like I could. I can kind

1529
01:07:17,559 --> 01:07:19,760
of see that one happening and having a big hubbub

1530
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,079
around it in a couple of years time. Otherwise count

1531
01:07:22,079 --> 01:07:22,880
your blessings come on.

1532
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 3: Well, I mean like like this wouldn't be a huge thing.

1533
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,559
Speaker 2: And he's he's obviously busy, you know, doing another nostalgia

1534
01:07:30,599 --> 01:07:33,159
project now, or he's finding another band. But if by

1535
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:37,280
some magical happenstance, we've got like twenty years of orchestra

1536
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,440
of wolves and Frank rocks up with them, like I

1537
01:07:39,559 --> 01:07:42,039
would lose my ship would never happen. It's never ever

1538
01:07:42,079 --> 01:07:45,679
gonna happen. But like that, that wouldn't happen, like I

1539
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,559
would fucking like run for a wall.

1540
01:07:47,519 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 1: Like yeah, who knows, but yeah, Blackening in a couple

1541
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:51,559
of time is the only one I can think of

1542
01:07:51,559 --> 01:07:53,639
around But like that, I think will at the very

1543
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,119
least have a similar level of for.

1544
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:58,159
Speaker 3: I think that's the answer, isn't it.

1545
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, And Aaron Quick ask, just following up on that

1546
01:08:01,239 --> 01:08:04,199
particular subject, why does Trivian being English and Bullet being

1547
01:08:04,239 --> 01:08:07,480
American make so much more sense? I don't know if

1548
01:08:07,519 --> 01:08:08,719
I actually feel this, What do you think?

1549
01:08:09,639 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 3: I kind of get it?

1550
01:08:10,519 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 2: Because to me, I was like what was because Trivia

1551
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,599
have a bit more of a kind of like British

1552
01:08:15,639 --> 01:08:18,079
heavy metal lineage in their sound. There's more, like you

1553
01:08:18,119 --> 01:08:19,319
would say, there is more Maiden.

1554
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,239
Speaker 1: They always talk about how the UK is like the

1555
01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:22,439
most important country for them.

1556
01:08:23,079 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 2: And Bullet have that kind of more like hyper clean

1557
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,880
radio polished metal corps sound that I guess people associate

1558
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:31,720
with us. So that's why I kind of got where

1559
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:32,520
it was coming from with it.

1560
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I understand the logic and I can

1561
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:38,560
see where it's coming from. But for me, Bullet have

1562
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,800
which again I have been at times in my life

1563
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,479
a very big Bullet Mountaine fan. I still really love

1564
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,720
like the first three record. I like you know Venom

1565
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,159
as well. They like overall as a band, I think

1566
01:08:49,199 --> 01:08:50,520
they are a good band.

1567
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,039
Speaker 3: They've got more hits than Missus, but the Misses are

1568
01:08:53,039 --> 01:08:53,439
a bit cast.

1569
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, But so with that in mind, you'll know exactly

1570
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,359
what I say by this. Bullet for me kind of

1571
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:04,560
have a specific quality of like when British bands try

1572
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,760
and be kind of cool and American, and I think

1573
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,319
you could see, you know, asking like Xandria as a

1574
01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:12,439
similar one. But I'm also thinking about your brit Rocks

1575
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,279
you U MEI at sixes and you know those kind

1576
01:09:14,279 --> 01:09:16,920
of bands like where there is something about those kind

1577
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,000
of bands from Britain when they like try and be

1578
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,840
kind of like, I don't know, hip in the way

1579
01:09:24,039 --> 01:09:27,279
that I think Bullet have a real and we again

1580
01:09:28,239 --> 01:09:30,640
how they have presented their band over the years, even

1581
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,119
going into the visuals and so on that we were

1582
01:09:32,119 --> 01:09:34,960
talking about earlier. I think Bullet have a real streak

1583
01:09:35,039 --> 01:09:38,520
of like British people kind of really trying to be cool.

1584
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,000
That stops me from viewing them as like, oh, yeah,

1585
01:09:41,039 --> 01:09:42,039
you're just an American.

1586
01:09:44,359 --> 01:09:46,319
Speaker 3: I get what you mean. I totally see it.

1587
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Triviam just have a real earnestness that I

1588
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,920
do think is also I don't know, seems very American

1589
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:57,199
about them. So yeah. Adam Morker asked now and a

1590
01:09:57,239 --> 01:10:00,760
couple of questions are around the big Sabbath news. Alam

1591
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:04,079
Walker asks, I'd be very interested to hear if you

1592
01:10:04,119 --> 01:10:07,479
think the Sabbath announcement would trigger any further recording activity.

1593
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,680
My gut had always said no due to Ozzie's health

1594
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,640
and his focused on solo work. Do we think that's

1595
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,560
still the case. The answer is absolutely still the case,

1596
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,720
not a fucking chance in hell. I mean, at the

1597
01:10:17,239 --> 01:10:21,960
you know, at most Ozzie could squeeze out another solo

1598
01:10:22,039 --> 01:10:24,319
album the way he did with the last two that

1599
01:10:24,319 --> 01:10:25,760
he's done in the last couple of years, and again

1600
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,479
even that seems kind of questionable right now. But if

1601
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,279
anything was going to happen on the recording front, it

1602
01:10:31,359 --> 01:10:34,520
would be another record with the exact team of collaborators

1603
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:36,920
and so on. You know, you're Andrew Watts. He's kind

1604
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,079
of done with the last stuff. In terms of Sabbath

1605
01:10:39,399 --> 01:10:43,119
absolutely fuck know that is done now. Said what I

1606
01:10:43,159 --> 01:10:46,479
think as well, Yeah, absolutely no chance. So slightly more

1607
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,239
substantial question in terms of what we will give it is.

1608
01:10:48,319 --> 01:10:51,159
Paul Terry then asks, in the scenario that the other

1609
01:10:51,279 --> 01:10:53,760
acts that the Sabbath Ossie Show are doing covers, which

1610
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,439
acts would you'd like to see perform which songs? I'm

1611
01:10:56,479 --> 01:11:00,000
going to take this as the actual bands who are listed,

1612
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,439
did your Metallica, Slayer, whatever. I'm going to assume that

1613
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:04,399
because they are listed as their own bands, that they

1614
01:11:04,399 --> 01:11:06,840
will do some of their own songs. I'm sure they

1615
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:08,640
will chip in on jams or whatever at some point,

1616
01:11:09,319 --> 01:11:12,359
but I'm going to direct this to the additional performances

1617
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,399
from bit all those individual people who are listed there,

1618
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,520
I would imagine that they are going to appear and

1619
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:22,199
you know, help out with Sabbath songs. So looking at

1620
01:11:22,239 --> 01:11:25,720
that list of individual names and so on, does anything

1621
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,000
scream out at you as being like, I would like

1622
01:11:28,039 --> 01:11:31,079
to see this person doing this particular Sabbath jam.

1623
01:11:31,399 --> 01:11:33,199
Speaker 2: I mean in me, I did just Fred Dust doing

1624
01:11:33,239 --> 01:11:37,319
an IV just oh yeah, so like that would be hilarious.

1625
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,319
Like I can't mean, I can't imagine fred do'st doing any.

1626
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:43,520
Speaker 1: Saying what the fuck do you get him to do?

1627
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,199
It will be so out of place no matter what

1628
01:11:46,279 --> 01:11:49,000
it is. My first response was the self titled song

1629
01:11:49,079 --> 01:11:51,640
Black Sabbath, just because the idea of something that is

1630
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:55,720
so like based in horror atmosphere, and then fred Dust

1631
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:56,079
comes in and.

1632
01:11:56,159 --> 01:11:59,159
Speaker 3: Goes, what the fuck is this that stands before me?

1633
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 1: Oh no, is the most just fucking out of whack

1634
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:05,520
things that we could have done.

1635
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 2: I could almost see him doing Iron Man like kind

1636
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:11,920
of just like that, like I mean Jonathan Davis doing

1637
01:12:12,119 --> 01:12:15,079
like again, like Jonathan Davis or Papa VI Perpetu doing

1638
01:12:15,359 --> 01:12:17,520
the title track Black Sabbath, Like those feel like kind

1639
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,159
of like quite natural fits like Jonathan Davis could do,

1640
01:12:20,239 --> 01:12:22,279
you know, the creepy thing. I don't know if they're

1641
01:12:22,279 --> 01:12:24,560
going to do anything from this era, who knows, but

1642
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,119
I mean Papa doing.

1643
01:12:26,079 --> 01:12:27,399
Speaker 3: Heaven and Hell title track.

1644
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think it will be all Ossie era.

1645
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,479
But I would like to see them dip into you know,

1646
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,239
like some sabotage stuff or you know, Sabbath like you know,

1647
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,319
get someone doing a hole in the sky or something

1648
01:12:37,359 --> 01:12:39,520
like you know, Papa doing hole in the Sky or something.

1649
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:43,399
Would be as well as your paranoid andself and I

1650
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,079
want to see your symptoms of the universe and you know,

1651
01:12:46,199 --> 01:12:49,359
I mean maybe Metallica obviously a history doing Sabbath colors.

1652
01:12:49,399 --> 01:12:51,640
Maybe you know, James will come out and seeing Sabra

1653
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:53,560
Kadabra or something along our lines, and that will that

1654
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,960
would be great. Obviously Obviously Jakie Lee is there, so

1655
01:12:57,079 --> 01:12:58,680
he'll be doing some of his stuff with Ozzie doing

1656
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:00,760
Bark at the Moon and all that. I'm saying it now.

1657
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:04,319
David Draymond will do war Pigs. He will, and he will,

1658
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,359
You've got that right, and that that makes me very upsette.

1659
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,560
He will and he will see absolutely no irony in

1660
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,760
that the sleep token drummer. I mean again, he's a proper,

1661
01:13:13,159 --> 01:13:15,039
you know, talented drummer, so he could do probably just

1662
01:13:15,079 --> 01:13:18,279
about anything, you know, fair enough fair play to him. Yeah,

1663
01:13:18,319 --> 01:13:22,319
I mean fred Durst is like all these other guys,

1664
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,359
they're gonna come in and whatever they do, I think

1665
01:13:24,399 --> 01:13:25,680
it will be quite tasteful. Right.

1666
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,399
Speaker 3: I want to hear Billy Corgan's weird voice doing something

1667
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:29,199
like Yeah.

1668
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 1: I mean, like he's a huge Sabbath fan, isn't he,

1669
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:33,600
So he could probably do just you could watch most

1670
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:37,640
things aside again, aside from the Draymond issue, all these

1671
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:39,399
other guys, they'll come in, they'll do something, it'll be

1672
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,520
good and tasteful and whatever. It's the fred Durst question

1673
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,600
of what the fuck do they get that guy to

1674
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,760
do within the Sabbath context that is just completely overshadowing

1675
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,800
the rest of the terms of Like, it's the thing I.

1676
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:53,319
Speaker 2: Most want to see though, the most intriguing prospect of

1677
01:13:53,399 --> 01:13:56,199
this whole show is what does Fred Durst do?

1678
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that is the you know, fucking million dollar

1679
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,000
question that we are going to carry on to I

1680
01:14:02,039 --> 01:14:04,119
guess until July when we find out about all this.

1681
01:14:04,359 --> 01:14:07,159
So thank you very much for your questions. As said,

1682
01:14:07,199 --> 01:14:09,159
we had other ones that were you know, hopefully we'll

1683
01:14:09,239 --> 01:14:11,680
kind of find the moment to circle back to in time.

1684
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,840
Let's quickly mention what you and I Sam are going

1685
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:17,640
to be doing in a few days time, which is

1686
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:22,479
over on Patreon where you know the real juice I

1687
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:26,399
suppose goes on at here at that's not metal Black

1688
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:30,680
Sabbath wise mentioned it. We have done in the last

1689
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:34,720
few weeks the beginnings of a not quite relevant to this,

1690
01:14:35,079 --> 01:14:37,680
a Black Sabbath without Ozzie Special is what we are doing.

1691
01:14:38,079 --> 01:14:40,000
The aim is to really dive into the last years.

1692
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,520
But we started a few weeks ago doing the Doo Years,

1693
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,520
which was obviously sensational. We are in a couple of

1694
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:48,479
weeks time we are going to get into the sort

1695
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:52,560
of middle years when things really go mental and Black

1696
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,640
Sabbath lineup start chopping and changing like no one's business.

1697
01:14:56,119 --> 01:14:57,680
And those are the folks who I would love to

1698
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:02,840
see appearing on this particular But before then, over you know,

1699
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:06,039
this weekend, Sam and I are finally gonna you know,

1700
01:15:06,119 --> 01:15:09,439
get our asses in gear and do our Nosferratu episode

1701
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,359
over on T and M does horror where if you

1702
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,079
are anything like us and you have brain chemistry aligned

1703
01:15:15,119 --> 01:15:17,680
anywhere like ours is you have also been thinking about

1704
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:19,760
the Robert Eggers Noserratu film for the best part of

1705
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,239
you know, over a month, So we are gonna be

1706
01:15:22,279 --> 01:15:24,960
talking about that, but we are also, of course gonna

1707
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:28,399
be doing the whole nos Feratu triptich. Essentially, we have

1708
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,560
to talk about, of course, the nineteen twenty two silent

1709
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:33,960
film original, the first time we've ever covered you know,

1710
01:15:34,039 --> 01:15:36,039
a silent movie or anything like that over on TNM

1711
01:15:36,079 --> 01:15:38,399
does Horror. So very very cool to be doing that.

1712
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,560
And there is also the matter of the nineteen seventies

1713
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:45,520
Werner Hutzog Nosarratu in there, which is a real I mean,

1714
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,840
I will get onto this in the episode. This is

1715
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,600
a this is a special one for me, and yeah,

1716
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,199
my my love of horror in general and my love

1717
01:15:53,239 --> 01:15:55,640
for these things. But the fact that we are gonna go, yeah, okay,

1718
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,159
this is the episode where we get to talk about

1719
01:15:57,159 --> 01:16:00,439
German expressionism and Werner Hutzogi the seventy and like all

1720
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,880
of this stuff. It's like it's it's headline news because

1721
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:05,960
nos Feratu is so big and everyone knows it, and

1722
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:07,760
the new movie has been such a success. But we're

1723
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:11,199
also going i know, slightly more art house than we

1724
01:16:11,319 --> 01:16:12,359
sometimes do on the show.

1725
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:14,319
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the first time we're going like way

1726
01:16:14,399 --> 01:16:16,920
way back into the past. It's the first one we're

1727
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:21,039
covering the same movie three times essentially, but three quite

1728
01:16:21,079 --> 01:16:24,680
wildly different interpretations of largely the same story. And I

1729
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:26,720
guess that's gonna be gonna be much because it's almost

1730
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:28,239
not like I was, we'll going for this movie, but

1731
01:16:28,359 --> 01:16:30,439
it's gonna be a bit like and you know, going

1732
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,159
through the stormycap mightn't be as much as that, So

1733
01:16:32,239 --> 01:16:34,279
we can spend a lot of time really digging into

1734
01:16:35,279 --> 01:16:36,319
the finer details.

1735
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, and collectively, the three of them kind of come together,

1736
01:16:39,359 --> 01:16:42,960
like you know, the Power Rangers, Fists of or whatever, Yeah,

1737
01:16:43,079 --> 01:16:45,439
to create this kind of comprehensive image of like what

1738
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:50,399
is Nosferatu? What does nos Feratu represent to to horror,

1739
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:54,199
to you know, our collective psychees, whatever. And it's that

1740
01:16:54,319 --> 01:16:56,560
stuff that I am. I'm kind of obsessed with and

1741
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:58,840
I'm really really looking forward to get into I have,

1742
01:16:59,039 --> 01:17:01,119
you know, so far, I wrote notes on the original

1743
01:17:01,159 --> 01:17:03,039
twenties film, and I wrote so many notes just based

1744
01:17:03,079 --> 01:17:04,439
on because it's one of the you know, the most

1745
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,399
significant formative films of all time, and the like weird

1746
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,560
history of like its production and all yeah, and the

1747
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,800
genuine weirdos who made it and all of that. And

1748
01:17:13,199 --> 01:17:15,680
after this, I'm going to dive into you know, the

1749
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,279
other side and doing everything else. So that is what

1750
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:22,199
is coming immediately now on the T and M Patreon

1751
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,760
over this weekend, and then after that, as said, we

1752
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,159
are going to jump right back into Black Sabbath and

1753
01:17:28,119 --> 01:17:30,279
dialing into the mid eighties with Sabbath and what was

1754
01:17:30,359 --> 01:17:32,359
going on with them there. So if you want to

1755
01:17:32,399 --> 01:17:36,159
hear all that, you can hear that at patron dot com. Slash.

1756
01:17:36,279 --> 01:17:38,039
That's done. El. There's also the matter of our recent

1757
01:17:38,119 --> 01:17:38,880
album Club Pack.

1758
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:42,279
Speaker 2: I've had one person come to me saying that Family

1759
01:17:42,319 --> 01:17:44,680
FORCEERB has positively changed their lives since they heard it,

1760
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,159
So so we needed.

1761
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 1: I think we can up that. I think we can

1762
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:49,439
make a greater impact on that. I think we can

1763
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:52,319
can get more people involved in that regard. So yeah,

1764
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:55,960
keep all of that coming. Cheers everybody. Let's finish this

1765
01:17:56,279 --> 01:17:59,760
bumper edition of Hyperblast with the release round up for

1766
01:18:00,079 --> 01:18:05,920
this first week of February. The seventh of February. First off,

1767
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:11,119
it is the return of Sam's all time favorite band's

1768
01:18:11,239 --> 01:18:15,640
Dream Theater. Baby. They are back with there I think

1769
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,359
what is going to be their most high profile record

1770
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:23,520
in an astonishingly long time, because we have the return

1771
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:25,079
of Mike Portnow on the drums. That was a really

1772
01:18:25,159 --> 01:18:27,399
like kind of unexpected reunion that me and Elliott spoke

1773
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:31,760
about when it happened about a year ago, and they

1774
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:33,840
have you know, got together quite quickly and released a record.

1775
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:35,720
So the new Dream Theater record the first with the

1776
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,760
kind of you know, classic Portnoy behind the kit line

1777
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:43,119
up in some years. Parasomnia is out big week for

1778
01:18:43,239 --> 01:18:45,840
our guess, you know, kind of your progressive technically type stuff.

1779
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:47,920
Because Ginger also have a new record out which is

1780
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:51,920
called Dual. Marco Hitala or haitar Sorry I don't know

1781
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,199
how to pronounce that guy's name, but Marco the former

1782
01:18:54,319 --> 01:18:57,000
Night Wish member who left a few years ago. He

1783
01:18:57,079 --> 01:18:59,920
has come back with a solo record called Roses from

1784
01:19:00,159 --> 01:19:02,520
Deep and also if you like your you know, European

1785
01:19:03,319 --> 01:19:05,920
power metal, I suppose I haven't heard a note of

1786
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,279
this record yet, but I saw the title an album

1787
01:19:08,359 --> 01:19:09,560
cover was like, what the fuck?

1788
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 2: Is this.

1789
01:19:10,199 --> 01:19:13,119
Speaker 1: There is a power metal band I believe called Majestica

1790
01:19:13,399 --> 01:19:16,000
and they have a record called power Train and.

1791
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 3: If the album's how has kind of got me intrigued.

1792
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 1: And the cover is the most fucking Disney bullshit polar Express.

1793
01:19:25,199 --> 01:19:27,800
Oh hell yeah of a powerful Train. And I was

1794
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:29,239
looking at the details and I was like, I think

1795
01:19:29,319 --> 01:19:31,399
this is a time train because it's coming through some

1796
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,159
kind of portal and down by the right hand side

1797
01:19:34,199 --> 01:19:36,720
of the train is a Viking. He has as a

1798
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:40,279
spiked like horned Viking helmet and he's in there amongst

1799
01:19:40,319 --> 01:19:42,199
all these like Victorian gentlemen and whatnot. So I'm like,

1800
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:47,199
the power train going through time. Just an image tells

1801
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:50,680
a thousand words, doesn't it. So Majestica power Train. They

1802
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:54,600
have the Naffis logo as well. Great great stuff going

1803
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:58,720
on there. We move into more of the underground. They're

1804
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:02,399
the new Obscura called the legendary Tech death Band. Their

1805
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:06,000
record is called a Sonication. Unfortunately, there has been a

1806
01:20:06,039 --> 01:20:09,159
bit of controversy around this obscure record, where various ex

1807
01:20:09,319 --> 01:20:11,520
members of the band have all kind of come at

1808
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:15,520
the main guy in the band, accusing him of using

1809
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:19,399
material of theirs without their permission essentially, and having Manifestan's

1810
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:20,800
records as a whole. There's a bit of a drama

1811
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:24,520
going on around past and present members of Obscurer over

1812
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:27,640
things like, you know, the music involved and whatnot at

1813
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:29,359
the moment, which is a shame because I really really

1814
01:20:29,399 --> 01:20:31,640
love Obscure at their best. But you know, that new

1815
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,960
record is out there now at the moment. If you

1816
01:20:35,119 --> 01:20:40,119
want more of a raw death metal approach, if Obscure

1817
01:20:40,159 --> 01:20:42,359
is too clean for you, then there is the European

1818
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:46,199
band Frenolith, who have returned with their new record ashen Womb.

1819
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:50,359
The long running sludge metal band sixteen have got a

1820
01:20:50,399 --> 01:20:54,119
record out called Guides for the Misguided, a real you know,

1821
01:20:54,239 --> 01:20:56,760
kind of didn't you like black and doom kind of

1822
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:59,960
scenario from a band called Morast with a record called

1823
01:21:00,159 --> 01:21:04,760
Fentanyl Say. Or the Scottish you know Celtic folk black

1824
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:09,079
metal band Favorites of Mark, favorites of you know, Highlanders. Essentially,

1825
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:13,239
their new record is out called amidst the Ruins, the

1826
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:16,279
I guess kind of Viking themed, you know, Norse black

1827
01:21:16,359 --> 01:21:19,399
metal band arab Altur, I've got a record called Halsing

1828
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:23,039
Walca And in your like post black Metal Realms, the

1829
01:21:23,159 --> 01:21:26,680
band Unrequited, with the vs. The The you have got

1830
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:29,239
a pathway to the moon. So that is your release

1831
01:21:29,319 --> 01:21:32,119
is forty day. Thank you very much for listening to

1832
01:21:32,399 --> 01:21:35,720
this edition of Hyperblast here with us. Let us know

1833
01:21:36,239 --> 01:21:39,119
your opinions on everything we spoke about, because again, we

1834
01:21:39,239 --> 01:21:43,079
had the Poisoned Ascendancy tour, we had the crazy Black

1835
01:21:43,119 --> 01:21:44,960
Sabbath news, we had the Grammys and all of the

1836
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:48,279
stuff to actually share, you know, discussions and thoughts of

1837
01:21:48,399 --> 01:21:52,399
this time around, so do so, yeah, and we will

1838
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,920
be back next week with another of these hyper Blast.

1839
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,359
Surely nothing crazy can happen like as much as this,

1840
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:01,039
so but we will see what happens, and we'll also

1841
01:22:01,119 --> 01:22:04,079
be back before then with our Noceratu t then does

1842
01:22:04,119 --> 01:22:06,800
Horror for a nice people ever on the Patreon. Sorry,

1843
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:08,439
we'll see you there for all of that, and then

1844
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:13,239
we back sooner than you can say. All right now, right, cheers, alright,