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<v Speaker 1>You're watching Chewing the Cud with Mike, Benyon Rowe and

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Smith. And then I felt it so like dribble

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<v Speaker 1>down the side of my face. I opened my eye

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<v Speaker 1>and it got in it burn and oh hello, well,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to Chewing the Cud. I'm again joined by the

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<v Speaker 1>singing saxophonist extraordinaire that is Vnce Smith. Hello, Hi, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>love to be back. Good. I'm glad that you came back.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't have we didn't have to charge him or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. I will expect parents later this week.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about a commerments of coin that looks slightly odd.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we have our game to play in our

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<v Speaker 1>Game of the week, and that's before vengeos is exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what a top pop banger needs and teach me a

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<v Speaker 1>lesson on screen. Now you can see all of our

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<v Speaker 1>social media. Just search for at the Cud TV and

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<v Speaker 1>as people who have.

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<v Speaker 2>Popped up in our comments go along the bottom of

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<v Speaker 2>the screen, it's time for Mike in the buzz.

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<v Speaker 1>Going through customs. I'm assuming you've been through customs before.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been through customs. Do you ever get the

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<v Speaker 1>fear that they're going to stop you? Even if You've

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<v Speaker 1>done nothing wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, absolutely, I'm always really, especially when you have

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<v Speaker 2>to walk through the the thingy, you know, the body scanner. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're like, lam all was like, am I done?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I? Okay? Am I? You know? Are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to feel me up? And can you if I ask

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<v Speaker 1>her just a me thing? Then okay. What's the fun

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do those body scanners is if you wear

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<v Speaker 1>she was saying, an intimate item of ring design out

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<v Speaker 1>of silicon, it doesn't set off the things, but it

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<v Speaker 1>shows up on a body scanner. So sorry, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to explain that further. What's that on a cockrow? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a small silicone oh rubber thing right that you

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<v Speaker 1>put around your penis and testicle shaft to make things

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<v Speaker 1>more enjoyable. Show me no, I can show you a picture,

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<v Speaker 1>but it will be mine. But yeah, bodies kind of

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<v Speaker 1>they show up and they automatically say can you come

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<v Speaker 1>this way please, sir, and they then do feel you up.

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<v Speaker 1>From what I've heard speaking from many years experience and

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<v Speaker 1>not even getting on a flight, well, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>story about Calvin Bassus, a great name, who basically was

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<v Speaker 1>asked whether he was smuggling anything in his pants because

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<v Speaker 1>they saw the shape of his python. Shall we say, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it was actually three pythons he was smuggling. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>his penis. There was actually three snakes. He was going

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<v Speaker 1>from Montreal to New York and he decided, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to smuggle these two and a half thousand pounds sneak

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<v Speaker 1>things dan his trousers.

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<v Speaker 2>Awake, awake, wiggly, wriggling, alight snakes and the plane that

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<v Speaker 2>was a film it was yeah, real life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, two and a half pounds per snake. And he

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<v Speaker 1>thought the best way of getting them into the country

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<v Speaker 1>was in his pants.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, I feel like you wouldn't need

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<v Speaker 2>to go through the scanner to see that something's going

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<v Speaker 2>on downstairs or maybe it's okay, he's having a.

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<v Speaker 1>He's having a great day. Was he wearing gray sweatpants?

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<v Speaker 1>Will never know the question, but it's that it's three

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot to be smuggling in your pants. That

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot to be I mean, smuggling anything in

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<v Speaker 1>your pants. You know, that's brave. This feels very brave. Worldlinde.

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<v Speaker 1>Stupidity or stupid, yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, well, you know, I wonder I wonder what

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<v Speaker 2>they see a customs. They must do some interesting things,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's probably a more interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Day thinking my looks. Yeah, he needs a pat down

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<v Speaker 1>while look at them snakes. Have they escaped in the airport?

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<v Speaker 1>Still there? No? No, they were caught as they were

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<v Speaker 1>getting in. They were taking quarantine and put away. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He was then sentenced to five years in three years

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<v Speaker 1>in prison and a five thousand dollars fine for smuggling snakes. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that again. So if you are going to

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<v Speaker 1>smuggle snakes, not dan you pants. My first tip and

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<v Speaker 1>the second tip, don't smuggle snakes. That's hard to say

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<v Speaker 1>that smuggle snakes. Smuggling snake now that I have been

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<v Speaker 1>caught anyway, moving on quite quickly from nicknames drugs, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not smuggling them, offering or talking about not offering unless

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<v Speaker 1>you want to paracetamol. I could do you a line

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<v Speaker 1>of a broken if you've got time. It's a story

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<v Speaker 1>about a priest who has been arrested for selling drugs. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically two ti of drugs, one viagra mm hmm and

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<v Speaker 1>the other m d m A okay, yeah, sliding scales,

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<v Speaker 1>sliding scale him and his friend whom he lived with,

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<v Speaker 1>were both arrested. So it's like we're not saying that

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<v Speaker 1>he was the lover, but a friend that he lived with,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's a Catholic priest, was basically selling. Was selling

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<v Speaker 1>via grant legally out of his home which is attached

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<v Speaker 1>to the church, via people knocking on and via post.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow. So people would text him saying can you

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<v Speaker 1>send me a VIAGRAA and he would send it through

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<v Speaker 1>the post.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's like there's levels of this business exactly

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<v Speaker 2>he's thought about it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's you know, when they went in and they went, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're selling viagra and I like going and you've also

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<v Speaker 1>got two and a half keel as a coat of MDMA.

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<v Speaker 2>Here that's m h less viagra, bit more's less Viagora.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever watch White Lotus. I've not watched White Loaders.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a scene in that or yeah, in the in

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<v Speaker 2>the program where vagra and MM are.

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<v Speaker 1>Mixed up to catastrophic mixed up in a pot or

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<v Speaker 1>mix up as that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's like somebody thought they were taking viagra but

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<v Speaker 2>then they were given an M instead, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>very different ends.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, well I don't know. I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>had a nice time, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess, just a different experience from what they're expecting. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, all I'm saying, if I was to offer

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<v Speaker 2>this price some advice, just be careful about labeling.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, viagra is a different shape to MDMA from

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<v Speaker 1>my understand. Yes, I'll let you, I'll let you lead

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<v Speaker 1>on from that. And yeah, if you know the difference

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<v Speaker 1>between tablets and powders at the COTV on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>And now we go over to our story of the week. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>are you a driver? I am a driver.

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<v Speaker 2>No car, no car can Okay, what's your most irritating

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<v Speaker 2>traffic cause?

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<v Speaker 1>Irritating traffic cause so you're stop stuck in traffic? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you find and it's like going, that's the one that

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<v Speaker 1>irritates me the most.

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<v Speaker 2>So for me, it's accidents, Yeah, I guess, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>so that are like roadworks probably you know, something that's

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<v Speaker 2>really just divert you in some ridiculous route that you

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<v Speaker 1>Road roadworks I'm okay with because they're trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>the roads nico allegedly. But then it's the people have

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<v Speaker 1>had accidents, but it's actually not that it's the people

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<v Speaker 1>stopping to look at.

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<v Speaker 2>The rubber rubber necking, So it's called stopping to look.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really slow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, stopped looking, they're dead. Move on. I'm a joy

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<v Speaker 1>in traffic okay, yeah, I'll avoid driving with you. Get

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<v Speaker 1>a bit ragy now and again, Well, it's the story

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<v Speaker 1>about people who were stuck in traffic behind two camels

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<v Speaker 1>in London. So there were basically two people were riding camels.

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<v Speaker 1>One was wearing a red packing the wall was gray.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so that's the the camel there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, surrounded by people wearing masks and playing loud music

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<v Speaker 2>in east to figure in east Ham, in eastern yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>actually down Newham High Street.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, I don't know, not on a camel, not

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<v Speaker 1>in a camel, no any other dromedaries word. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>good word. No, actually no, I wasn't offered such things.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you been on the one four seven bus? Similar? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's the one that was impacted. And this came

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<v Speaker 1>about because basically they had camels, they were moving. They

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<v Speaker 1>had to move them down the high street, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>why they had to walk. But the interesting thing was

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<v Speaker 1>that that bus behind them was filled with school kids

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<v Speaker 1>and the reason why a bus full of school kids

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<v Speaker 1>were like, oh, we got to stop behind some camels.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't go over very well, yeah, like come on, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, how are you all up with the same lie? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And it was only like the day after when it

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<v Speaker 1>was in the news that the teachers.

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<v Speaker 2>Went when they were believed, Oh, that detention shouldn't have happened,

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<v Speaker 2>suspended all that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, we've expelled all these children for throwing. Business

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<v Speaker 1>has been canceled. No more camels. Christ we castled in March.

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<v Speaker 1>We're really planning punishment. Now. There was some link in

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<v Speaker 1>my brain to the kings and camels and Christmas. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I got it, but right, okay, right, Easter

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<v Speaker 1>still going ahead, chockolate eggs, right, but in nine months

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be pissed off. But they are now

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<v Speaker 1>stopped by a giant chicken. Mm hm. Then Eastern micro canceled. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what else is planned in Easter In

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<v Speaker 2>terms of animals blocking busses rabbits?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this a yearly event? Like? Can I get tick

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<v Speaker 1>it gets to camel's walking? Just call them? Can I

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<v Speaker 1>ride the camel. So they do actually sell camel rides,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why they're moving them from one place to

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<v Speaker 1>another and were in London or the camel rides not

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<v Speaker 1>actually right, but like through London like this is a

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<v Speaker 1>new tourist. Oh no, no, they had like a traveling

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<v Speaker 1>fair kind of idea. Okay, so they had camels and

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<v Speaker 1>they needed to move them from one location to that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very expensive to move things, so they just said

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<v Speaker 1>they can walk, we can ride them good. You know, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>what roads used to be for cameras they did, just

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily in this country, in London during the winter.

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<v Speaker 1>We should we should change that, we should, I'd say

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<v Speaker 1>camel ubers would now be a thing that yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>should be a thing. You know, we're getting very slow

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<v Speaker 1>taxi or an uber.

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<v Speaker 2>If you haven't got I mean, if they can stop

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<v Speaker 2>traffic through and make the news, I'd say worth spending

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<v Speaker 2>money on.

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<v Speaker 1>You can probably walk it down the sidewalk, guitar work

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<v Speaker 1>in the American company the pavement and not get pulled over.

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<v Speaker 1>Quite possibly, Yes, some other things I've seen in that

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<v Speaker 1>neck of the woods. Yeah, and then imagine being rear

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<v Speaker 1>ended by a camel. But that's all from the buzz

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<v Speaker 1>this week. Well, thank you for that camera based news.

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed that. It's okay, our pleasure as always. But

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<v Speaker 1>coming after this short break, it's vent and the show Business.

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<v Speaker 1>You're watching in the cud with Ven and Mike. Now

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<v Speaker 1>let's get ready for the show bus with then, so

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<v Speaker 1>show business.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a brand new coin in town. That's right,

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<v Speaker 2>that has Are you into coins?

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<v Speaker 1>No, well you should be. They are great. What are

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<v Speaker 1>they great? Because they're around and they are money.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you can spend this talk about it. But I

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<v Speaker 2>do have a friend to collects coins. So if you're

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<v Speaker 2>watching AUNT, this is specifically for you, I guess. So

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<v Speaker 2>there is a new coin unveiled by the Mint which

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that is it. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah used, yeah, yeah, yeah, and people are unhappy. To

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<v Speaker 2>be honest, that might have been better than what is

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<v Speaker 2>actually on the coin, as you can see here. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Of the coin? It it looks like it that well. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason why I don't want to say his name,

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<v Speaker 2>his name is Robin Thick. Here is there because some

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<v Speaker 2>but in fact looks like Robin. I mean, I would

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's got a hint towards George Michael.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not even just that. It's like the whole

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really know what'sto was maybe it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>it's a neck of a guitar. And then those are

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<v Speaker 1>Oh right. I know he's a musician.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a musician, and it's supposed to be related

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<v Speaker 2>to Faith the song as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess that because that's like the wavefarm from Faith.

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<v Speaker 2>Possibly that's cool, and I guess like the ear ring

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what he was, But I don't know, it just.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't work for me. It's a bit of a miss.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a bit of a miss. I'm more excited

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<v Speaker 1>about how do they get read onto a coin. Well

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<v Speaker 1>exactly when did that start happening?

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<v Speaker 2>And and yeah, so my question is I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess it's just a colectoy item. I don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>Not upsetting me. Why would you not? What Michael coin right,

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<v Speaker 1>because most of the coins that you can get so

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the Paddington Bear fifty psm, they're actually fifty

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<v Speaker 1>p so you can go out and spend them spendable.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that it cost you five pounds to get one,

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<v Speaker 1>So why you do that? I wouldn't know. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually fifty p But what if it's worth that's the question.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe even though it doesn't say it, maybe it's a

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<v Speaker 1>The roment have just blurred the lines.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, Well it's all just a bit unfortunate,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't It's very unfortunate? And who The thing with all

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff is surely it has to it has to

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<v Speaker 2>pass through quite a few people before they're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're we're totally happy of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody has said yes, George Michael's you know, like lots

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<v Speaker 1>of people have got to approve it. Yeah, a few

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<v Speaker 1>people for the coin, not some more.

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<v Speaker 2>It's dirty, dirty money, but you know they all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Moving on, So our next story is all about RuPaul.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, lovely, Lovely ru Paul.

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<v Speaker 2>So, RuPaul has released a new memoir and in this

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<v Speaker 2>has been quite open about addiction in the past, and which.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like he's maybe spoken about before.

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<v Speaker 2>But perhaps maybe this is a bit more detail about

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<v Speaker 2>all of this in the memoir, and so it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of been picked up by the media a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>and in particular sort of talking about buying a coke

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<v Speaker 2>from this leaziest dealer in the House of Hidden Meanings,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the name of the memoir. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're for me. I don't know stories like this when

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<v Speaker 2>they come out, I don't know. I quite I do

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<v Speaker 2>quite like I think it can be sometimes can be

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<v Speaker 2>quite inspirational in terms of like overcoming stuff and then

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<v Speaker 2>seeing people where they are now and that you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Things aren't always rosy.

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<v Speaker 2>And Rupel's drag race Empire, you know there was a

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<v Speaker 2>journey to get to that point. But how do you

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<v Speaker 2>feel online journey and journey for RuPaul, how do you

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<v Speaker 2>feel about that? Like in terms of celebrities, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>in particular, but kind of sharing stuff like that from

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<v Speaker 2>the past.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's always good when people can share best stories,

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<v Speaker 1>especially about addiction and all the things that they've been through,

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<v Speaker 1>because it kind of normalizes them a little bit. Because

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<v Speaker 1>when you see RuPaul and the glamorous house and the

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<v Speaker 1>big ranch that they've got and all.

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<v Speaker 2>That sort of success and pracking huh crackinging?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>That that gone over the head that there's who was

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<v Speaker 2>it Pepperin and Bob the drag Queen were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>and he allegedly does fracking.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a video of them laughing. Okay, okay, So I

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<v Speaker 1>mean having been around for a lot of RuPaul's career,

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<v Speaker 1>right back when RuPaul was Cupcake and part of the

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<v Speaker 1>Club Kids, because I remember watching them on Ronaldo. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how old I am. I've seen their career come along

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<v Speaker 1>a long way. But you can definitely see in some

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<v Speaker 1>of the earlier and some of the other clips that

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<v Speaker 1>RuPaul had demons that they were fighting. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's good that they're sharing and saying, look, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what I've had to overcome, and that's the thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>their partner was also George's it's also on f quite

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<v Speaker 1>a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, I think this is kind of part of that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the bit I'd read from the story kind

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<v Speaker 2>of relates to that. How his partners, I guess in

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<v Speaker 2>rehab at the time, but then we probably realized actually,

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<v Speaker 2>oh I'm going through some stuff as well, and then

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<v Speaker 2>needed to kind of get support.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I think, like, I think it's it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to share that because it might be quite helpful.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's just in general, it's the whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing around slept in Fame is that it's not it's

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<v Speaker 2>not overnight, right, you know, it's all everybody is starting

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<v Speaker 2>from somewhere and you know, quite often quite a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff before we getting to the.

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<v Speaker 2>To the glam point in Kardashian, less your Kardashian you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how about yourself? When's your memoir coming out? The

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<v Speaker 1>Exploits of an Uninteresting Man already has a title, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>when coming out probably in about ten years post death. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>well we'll look forward to that. We're all looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to my death. Yeah, that's right. Thanks that. Moving on,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not alive now, it's just towards the light, go

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<v Speaker 1>towards the light right, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Moving on to somebody else who probably has a few memoirs,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is there very much still with us and

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<v Speaker 2>doing a stadium tour right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Who am I talking about someone that's still with us

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<v Speaker 1>in the stadium tour? Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift. Yeah, she's

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<v Speaker 1>still there.

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<v Speaker 2>But somebody, let's say, above the pop ladder and we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Madonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, she's not still alive. She's been on an animatronic fu.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to prefair, that picture does look quite like it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's a robot in a Madonna skin suit. But

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<v Speaker 1>do people care they're paying the money to see her,

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<v Speaker 1>stupidly playing the money to see her? You not, No,

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's a lot of It's like five hundred pounds

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<v Speaker 1>for a ticket. Yeah, I mean yeah, no, I wouldn't have.

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<v Speaker 1>If someone gave me a ticket, I would go, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>someone gave me take it. That's a different matter. It

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be from front as well, because I would go.

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<v Speaker 2>To must things people give me a ticket. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>just related to Madonna. How we got him here, gave

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<v Speaker 2>him a ticket to the studio and he walked in.

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<v Speaker 2>It was brilliant, you know, just fight me on the street.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a raffle ticket. It wasn't even a ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like clock Room forty two. It came in not

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<v Speaker 2>even a five or zero waiting for my prize. Listen, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the Madonna ticket will get you a full old shebang

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<v Speaker 2>of a show, I imagine. But there's been a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of controversy around the current Stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>Tour where as part of it there is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a montage, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess, which is dedicated to people who have died of AIDS.

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<v Speaker 2>And in this there's been a bit of a blunder

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<v Speaker 2>because Luther van Ross has appeared on this, and so

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<v Speaker 2>there's been some backlash because Luther van Ross did not

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<v Speaker 2>have AIDS, does not die of it, and was never

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<v Speaker 2>officially not that this is actually necessarily the same thing,

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<v Speaker 2>but and I guess was never officially out in life.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's been a bit of a backlash around this,

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<v Speaker 2>and again kind of similar to the coin situation. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought immediately was like, again, how many people not passing through?

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<v Speaker 2>But how many people have? How I had to look

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<v Speaker 2>over this, how many people did loop of Van Ross

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<v Speaker 2>go through? How many people have said, yes, we're absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>fond of this visual whatever, and there's no problems here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's got to the point where you know it's in

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<v Speaker 2>a show. And then I guess somebody's been like, hold

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<v Speaker 2>was part of the team, I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 2>want to knock on Madonna's door and be like, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>just just let you know you've got this a little

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<v Speaker 1>So it's from what I'm saying this, there's a big

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<v Speaker 1>tableaus that come from the ceiling behind Madonna. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to know? Just don't put the picture in? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>don't tell. I mean, yeah, how much is she actually

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<v Speaker 1>involved in any of that? How much is she conscious?

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<v Speaker 1>Right now? Is an animatronic robot in a Madonna's skin suit?

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't care? This is live now. Actually it sounds yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>She just did some new batteries, the Energizer Bunny Madonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, well, Madonna, that's all we have for you on

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<v Speaker 2>the show business.

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<v Speaker 1>That's always interesting to know that basically Madonna's dead. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>stick around because coming up next we have an and

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<v Speaker 1>the game of the week. You're watching you in the cud. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>We spent some time cramming last week, but as we

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<v Speaker 1>you to pop off again. Off, I pop off your pop. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>pop pop, I go again O week So same game

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<v Speaker 1>as last week. Okay, we've got questions. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>He's all man. We made sure of that isn't my

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<v Speaker 1>dating profile. It was said for a US presidency candidate

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<v Speaker 1>when it asked their son was gay? Which president was that? Hmmm,

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't Orange. He wasn't Orange, wasn't Orange Clinton? Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>has a daughter? Great? Yeah, it was Ronald Reagan, lovely

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<v Speaker 1>friend of thatcher Ronald Reagan. Yes, actor Ronald Reagan basically

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<v Speaker 1>Short it turned out.

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<v Speaker 2>His son was, well, you know, stranger things have happened,

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<v Speaker 2>but it helps to be all mad gay. How did

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<v Speaker 2>the test just saying testes, testes, That's where it comes

418
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<v Speaker 2>from it to say.

419
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<v Speaker 1>Ready for me? I am ready for you? Great. I

420
00:24:14.440 --> 00:24:17.839
<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm just not doing very well. Knowledge. These

421
00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:21.440
<v Speaker 1>are quite you know, there's some challenges in here, I say,

422
00:24:21.440 --> 00:24:22.200
<v Speaker 1>definitely some challenges.

423
00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But this one's about the Kinsey scale. I would

424
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<v Speaker 2>say arguably everybody's favorite type of scale. On that scale,

425
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<v Speaker 2>what number represents someone who only has romantic feelings for

426
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<v Speaker 2>the same sex?

427
00:24:36.519 --> 00:24:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Looking for a number on that scale? Romantic feeling? Romantic feelings, yes,

428
00:24:44.359 --> 00:24:45.839
<v Speaker 1>as in you want to take them out for dinner

429
00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:50.359
<v Speaker 1>or you want to eat them out. I don't know,

430
00:24:50.440 --> 00:24:53.000
<v Speaker 1>depends how romantic you are in your dates. It's a

431
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<v Speaker 1>strong word what I do.

432
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<v Speaker 2>So you're after a number, I'm after a number, yes,

433
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<v Speaker 2>please seventeen. No, I mean I actually don't know the

434
00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:07.440
<v Speaker 2>number is that we're going from the scale if it

435
00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:10.240
<v Speaker 2>did not research properly before this. But we're looking for

436
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<v Speaker 2>the number six. So you know that is not the

437
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<v Speaker 2>number that you said, So.

438
00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:17.079
<v Speaker 1>You're wrong, Like the musical six, that's.

439
00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Right, Like the musical six, that's right. On a scale,

440
00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:23.000
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you a little bit more of you're interested.

441
00:25:23.880 --> 00:25:29.079
<v Speaker 2>Absolute heterosexuality is zero, an absolute homosexuality is six.

442
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<v Speaker 1>So you know this is the top of the scale.

443
00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:34.839
<v Speaker 1>Six six is the top. Yeah, that's right. Six is

444
00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:38.839
<v Speaker 1>the top? How do you feel about that? Definitely not six.

445
00:25:39.319 --> 00:25:44.079
<v Speaker 1>So that's that's a really short scale. It is a

446
00:25:44.079 --> 00:25:48.279
<v Speaker 1>short scale. Heterosexuality is zero. There's not much wriggle room.

447
00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:53.480
<v Speaker 1>The bisexuality is about a what three? Two? Yeah? Or

448
00:25:53.559 --> 00:25:56.359
<v Speaker 1>is it you're just going zero? Zero point zero one?

449
00:25:56.799 --> 00:25:59.759
<v Speaker 1>No longer? That's right? So zero to sixty and three

450
00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:05.759
<v Speaker 1>point five leanna, all right, so if you want me

451
00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:10.960
<v Speaker 1>to shut up, dear right, okay, moving on in nineteen nineteen.

452
00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:14.079
<v Speaker 1>In fifteen thirty three, King Henry the Eighth created the

453
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<v Speaker 1>Buggery Act, which was not oh it was a penalty, okay,

454
00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:20.079
<v Speaker 1>which was a crime in England. I thought it was

455
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<v Speaker 1>an act of boger. I was like, going, well done you,

456
00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:24.720
<v Speaker 1>King Henry the Eighth, thank you very much. Love. They've

457
00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>been doing it before. What was the penalty foresaid act

458
00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:36.240
<v Speaker 1>for buggery? Just say buggery again? Buy, I don't know

459
00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:38.480
<v Speaker 1>what it is buggery in a Scottish Actince sounds like

460
00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:42.720
<v Speaker 1>a lovely word, buggery, ugury? Have you ever buggered? No?

461
00:26:43.400 --> 00:26:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Have I been? Personal question? Answered just right? What was

462
00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:52.880
<v Speaker 1>was the question? Who am I? What are we doing? Bugger?

463
00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Penalty for taking up the rogan from King the right

464
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<v Speaker 1>to become one of his sex slaves. The way you

465
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:17.920
<v Speaker 1>read that, it was like watching the news slightly wrong. No,

466
00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:20.079
<v Speaker 1>death was the answer.

467
00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:26.319
<v Speaker 2>Wow, whether you were topping or bottomy, so what either?

468
00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:32.279
<v Speaker 1>So everybody verse was screwed. Really gosh. But it's because

469
00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:36.400
<v Speaker 1>in Rome, on the Vatican State even they used to

470
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<v Speaker 1>use something called the Pope's pair, which was basically a

471
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<v Speaker 1>boot plug mm. They used to pop inside you and

472
00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:48.680
<v Speaker 1>then turn it and it'd expand and rip you asunder. Yeah,

473
00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:53.480
<v Speaker 1>so it's it's basically extreme fisting. It's just like a

474
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<v Speaker 1>Saturday well once a month. Maybe no one needs that

475
00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:03.880
<v Speaker 1>much fiber in the diet. Have you got one for me? Now? Right?

476
00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:09.559
<v Speaker 1>I do. Now I'm looking for another number here.

477
00:28:09.680 --> 00:28:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I know you like those sixty nine correct, great, there,

478
00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:20.599
<v Speaker 2>but there may well have been some sixty nine's in

479
00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:24.759
<v Speaker 2>this situation. How many men were in the elite homosexual

480
00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:28.880
<v Speaker 2>group of soldiers. I know you're getting excited formed by

481
00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Gorgodas in three seven eight BCE, although it'll be dead now.

482
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:38.359
<v Speaker 1>I was packing their bags, I was booking holiday. Where's

483
00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:42.000
<v Speaker 1>gorged as I'm going? Exactly where is that? I'm not sure?

484
00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:47.559
<v Speaker 1>How many? How many men elite homosexual groups. How many

485
00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:54.920
<v Speaker 1>men in a group? Buggery, lougery? It does it sounds

486
00:28:54.960 --> 00:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>like a food substance. I'm sorry I did with buggery.

487
00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:07.119
<v Speaker 1>It's in the thebes, thiebes, thebes, as in Gypsy's Champson.

488
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:13.759
<v Speaker 2>Yep see possibly the Roman Empire somewhere, says a voice

489
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:14.240
<v Speaker 2>in my ear.

490
00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:21.079
<v Speaker 1>So I'm thinking, what's the sensible number of honey men

491
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:25.440
<v Speaker 1>all together? And then doubling it?

492
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:31.319
<v Speaker 2>So eight hundred and nineteen okay, specific I feel like

493
00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:33.599
<v Speaker 2>you've thought about this number before, But.

494
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:35.240
<v Speaker 1>How did I double it again? Add number?

495
00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:40.119
<v Speaker 2>There's the question unfortunately not that many, but also still sizable.

496
00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:44.039
<v Speaker 2>You know, might entertain you for a weekend, perhaps three

497
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<v Speaker 2>hundred One night.

498
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>You said the weekend, just the weekend? What weekend? Let's

499
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:55.200
<v Speaker 1>not work on the slightly answer and they here? Okay,

500
00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:58.359
<v Speaker 1>moving on? When was the do you know when the

501
00:29:58.359 --> 00:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>first game has been marched? Was in Washington? What do

502
00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>you mean? Washington State, Washington DC, Washington d C. I'm

503
00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:15.079
<v Speaker 1>gonna say so nineteen.

504
00:30:16.519 --> 00:30:23.240
<v Speaker 2>Seventy eight, Oh my god, eight, I was wrong as

505
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:27.799
<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty five. I actually legitimately got excited there and

506
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:30.640
<v Speaker 2>thought I wondered why I was moving forward with my

507
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:33.599
<v Speaker 2>life and things hadn't been erased, and that you know,

508
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:41.759
<v Speaker 2>existence had meaning. So your next question is Dr Tom Waddle,

509
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:45.680
<v Speaker 2>a member of the nineteen sixty eight Olympic team, started

510
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:49.160
<v Speaker 2>the Gay Games, which is an international sporting event held

511
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<v Speaker 2>every four years. Originally it was to be called the

512
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:55.720
<v Speaker 2>Gay Olympics, but the name was changed for which reason.

513
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<v Speaker 1>The Olympic Committee didn't like reminding people that the Olympics

514
00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>were originally all men were around naked.

515
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:08.119
<v Speaker 2>Hmmm, I mean that is quite a plausible answer, but.

516
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:11.039
<v Speaker 1>Not the one. I'll be right.

517
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:16.079
<v Speaker 2>Infringement now, although not that far off, really the answer,

518
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:18.000
<v Speaker 2>unless you'd like to take any other guesses.

519
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:24.039
<v Speaker 1>They were scared that the javelin throwers would be excited.

520
00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:27.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you're still thinking about those three hundred soldiers.

521
00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:31.759
<v Speaker 2>So the United States Olympic Committee requested a federal injunction

522
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:35.200
<v Speaker 2>against using the name Olympic for this group. So they

523
00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:37.680
<v Speaker 2>were just being a bit pretty and rubbish abo using

524
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<v Speaker 2>the name.

525
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I think.

526
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:41.000
<v Speaker 2>One wonders why the USC never brought up these of

527
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:44.240
<v Speaker 2>the term One wonders, I wonder or whoever wrote this.

528
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:50.960
<v Speaker 3>One one does wonder why one does wonder actually why

529
00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:53.319
<v Speaker 3>they've not stopped the use of Olympics when it comes to,

530
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:57.319
<v Speaker 3>for example, dog Olympics, police Olympics, nude Olympics.

531
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<v Speaker 1>First of all, I did not know there was a

532
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<v Speaker 1>newtles to you and I sat here overb watching the

533
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:08.319
<v Speaker 1>nood Olympics. Have you been in it? No? No, no, no, no.

534
00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:12.319
<v Speaker 1>One wants to see this, dude. The dog Olympics is

535
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:15.000
<v Speaker 1>and other options. I could say, I blindfollowed myself come

536
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:16.079
<v Speaker 1>out of the shower, just in case.

537
00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, those Olympics exist it maybe for another year, four

538
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:25.559
<v Speaker 2>years training stick around.

539
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:28.319
<v Speaker 1>Whose coming up next? We're going to get taught some

540
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>things in it. Teach me a lesson. Welcome back to

541
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:44.799
<v Speaker 1>you in the CUD. Now we're going to learn exactly

542
00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:47.960
<v Speaker 1>how we produce a song worthy of Eurovision. As we

543
00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:58.920
<v Speaker 1>talked to then in teach me a lesson the song

544
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>smith ory Hm, I believe that's a word. That's right.

545
00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:06.519
<v Speaker 1>It's our last name, song smith Rye is songsmith ry

546
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:11.039
<v Speaker 1>shortened to smith exactly. I'm a smith, a smith of songs. Yes, lovely,

547
00:33:11.759 --> 00:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>so quite recently you have been involved with the Eurovision,

548
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:21.400
<v Speaker 1>that is right. Yeah, it was very exciting, totally what happened.

549
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:23.839
<v Speaker 1>How did you get involved? Oh, well, it all began

550
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:26.240
<v Speaker 1>so there.

551
00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:28.240
<v Speaker 2>Well, Eurovision has always been something that I've watched in

552
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:31.279
<v Speaker 2>so as kids, so and I kind of love it,

553
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:33.799
<v Speaker 2>love to hate it, but also love to love it.

554
00:33:33.799 --> 00:33:36.279
<v Speaker 1>Particularly I just love it. Not even that much of

555
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>a secret.

556
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:40.759
<v Speaker 2>But the small country of sam Marino, which is like

557
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:45.960
<v Speaker 2>a landlocked country in Italy because they're so small, they

558
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:50.599
<v Speaker 2>open up the applications for any musicians across the world

559
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:54.039
<v Speaker 2>to take part in their own competition to then represent

560
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:58.279
<v Speaker 2>the country in Eurovision. So I entered this and then

561
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:01.119
<v Speaker 2>I could have and think much more about it. And

562
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:03.839
<v Speaker 2>then but got through to the first round, which is

563
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:05.759
<v Speaker 2>very exciting. So I had to do an online edition

564
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:08.599
<v Speaker 2>back at the start of this year of my own tunes,

565
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:11.519
<v Speaker 2>and then just before I moved to Manchester, then I

566
00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:13.920
<v Speaker 2>got word that I was through to the semi finals,

567
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:15.719
<v Speaker 2>so I had to go to their live TV show

568
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:19.159
<v Speaker 2>in San Marino was it wasn't live then, but it

569
00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:20.840
<v Speaker 2>was recorded, and then the finals live.

570
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:21.880
<v Speaker 1>So yeah.

571
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Then within a week I had to get a whole

572
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:25.840
<v Speaker 2>new song together again an outfit.

573
00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:27.559
<v Speaker 1>Together of which this is actually a part of.

574
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:31.440
<v Speaker 2>And then yeah, fly to Italy. Then get myself to

575
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:35.280
<v Speaker 2>sam Reno and take part in the competition. So it

576
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:37.639
<v Speaker 2>was but yeah, what an amazing experience. Kind of like

577
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:42.119
<v Speaker 2>absolutely bonkers, as you might expect anything Eurovision adjacent to be,

578
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:46.679
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, like a really really amazing thing to be

579
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:47.000
<v Speaker 2>part of.

580
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:49.559
<v Speaker 1>Cool. So you said, you apply, How do you apply?

581
00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:50.840
<v Speaker 1>How do you find out how to apply?

582
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:57.880
<v Speaker 2>So I'd originally heard about it through another artist in London.

583
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:00.639
<v Speaker 2>I was living at London time and he had been it,

584
00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:04.119
<v Speaker 2>so he's called Aaron Sibley, and so it was on

585
00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:05.840
<v Speaker 2>my radar, this is something that you could maybe do.

586
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:08.000
<v Speaker 2>And then they just opened at some point they opened

587
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:10.199
<v Speaker 2>up like an application format and literally anybody can can

588
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:12.360
<v Speaker 2>reply to it. You have to submit your songs and

589
00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:16.360
<v Speaker 2>then that go through a panel. So yeah, I was

590
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:18.639
<v Speaker 2>just like, well, you know, why not that could be

591
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:20.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of fun. And then so in this so when

592
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:22.320
<v Speaker 2>I got through to semifinals, I was by that point

593
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:26.559
<v Speaker 2>I was the only UK representative still in the competition,

594
00:35:26.599 --> 00:35:29.920
<v Speaker 2>which is quite cool, and I went so I very

595
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:32.480
<v Speaker 2>much went UK, but also I was going with this

596
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:34.199
<v Speaker 2>being Scottish thing as well, so.

597
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:37.440
<v Speaker 1>That I had the kill on I imaginally let I

598
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:38.079
<v Speaker 1>got quite a lot.

599
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Of Scottish press for being in the competition as well,

600
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:43.320
<v Speaker 2>which is kind of lovely, which I hadn't expected at all.

601
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:47.119
<v Speaker 1>So it's like one of these things. I think people.

602
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:51.280
<v Speaker 2>Maybe like make fun of your vision, but actually if

603
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:53.679
<v Speaker 2>there's like maybe an element of somebody I don't know,

604
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:56.280
<v Speaker 2>somehow getting through that might represent you, then.

605
00:35:56.159 --> 00:35:58.079
<v Speaker 1>Everyone's can lay, Oh that's amazing, that's fun.

606
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:00.559
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I went through, I got got a new

607
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:04.360
<v Speaker 2>song together for it, and then did the competition. Unfortunately

608
00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:06.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't make it to the finals. But hey, I was

609
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:09.800
<v Speaker 2>actually I surprised myself at how gutted I was.

610
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I was there.

611
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:11.760
<v Speaker 2>I was like, do you know, actually I really would

612
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:14.519
<v Speaker 2>love this, But it's fine. It's kind of spurred me on.

613
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:17.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm now like, in the back of my mind, maybe

614
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:20.320
<v Speaker 2>there's still away from me to get into your vision somehow,

615
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:22.800
<v Speaker 2>even if it's like being a songwriter or working with

616
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:26.719
<v Speaker 2>some other people. So my next Eurovision plan is that

617
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:29.400
<v Speaker 2>I work with some artists in different countries, so a

618
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:32.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of them have their own competitions to find the

619
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:35.639
<v Speaker 2>representative for the country before the final thing, not like

620
00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:37.480
<v Speaker 2>the UK who just pays some money and gets in.

621
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:41.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, a lot of them work their way into

622
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:44.000
<v Speaker 2>that Eurovision place. So I'm gonna try and collaborate with

623
00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:45.400
<v Speaker 2>some other artists in different countries.

624
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Cool. So you said you put the song together specifically

625
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:51.400
<v Speaker 1>for your vision. How did you come up with the

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<v Speaker 1>idea for that? How did you quote with that song idea?

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<v Speaker 1>So quickly?

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<v Speaker 2>I had some songs like working like in my demo

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<v Speaker 2>folder that we were just never recorded and hadn't been

630
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<v Speaker 2>released yet, so I knew that was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>one of those. So I did already have like an

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<v Speaker 2>idea of a song kind of sitting there. And then

633
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<v Speaker 2>I have a producer that I worked with, and I

634
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<v Speaker 2>was like, hey, so we have a week. Can we

635
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<v Speaker 2>produce the song and make it like a Eurovision worthy thing?

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<v Speaker 2>And so there's quite there's like some specifications well as

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<v Speaker 2>well for Eurovision song. It's probably the same for most countries,

638
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<v Speaker 2>but for Sam Reno, so three minutes is the maximum.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're talking you know, pop in the sort of

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<v Speaker 2>quick quick pop world and three minutes being maximum, So

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<v Speaker 2>you're really got to get in there with your idea

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<v Speaker 2>and your hooks and your churus. It's going to be

643
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<v Speaker 2>pretty much like wham bam, this is the song. You know,

644
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<v Speaker 2>no messing around, wham bam, I just boom, bang and

645
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<v Speaker 2>bang went in my head.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well exactly, so that's very your vision. But yeah, okay, cool.

647
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<v Speaker 1>So you already had this idea of a song that

648
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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to put together, watch the producer, you went

649
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<v Speaker 1>over there and performed it. And when you when you

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<v Speaker 1>performing in front of a staged audience or live audience,

651
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<v Speaker 1>what's that like?

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<v Speaker 2>M Well, I think that for your vision as well,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's it isn't just music. Some would argue sometimes

654
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<v Speaker 2>it's not music, but like a bigger part of the

655
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<v Speaker 2>thing is that, I guess the TV program essentially as well.

656
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<v Speaker 2>So like the visual in the staging is as much

657
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<v Speaker 2>a part of a Eurovision song and performance as anything else.

658
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<v Speaker 1>I think the magic could.

659
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<v Speaker 2>Comes when you, you know, you get a legitimately good

660
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<v Speaker 2>song that meets with like some pretty cool staging and

661
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<v Speaker 2>well fought out stuff, even if it's absolutely bonkers, but

662
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<v Speaker 2>like when it kind of comes together, that's when you

663
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<v Speaker 2>can kind of get some magical Eurovision moments.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>In either way, but you know, often, I mean you'll

666
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<v Speaker 2>often think if you think about Eurovision for me anyway,

667
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<v Speaker 2>you sometimes probably think more about the visual and the

668
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<v Speaker 2>staging than actually the songs themselves. So I guess that

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<v Speaker 2>was that was my initial thought, is like, Okay, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a song, but how am I going to like

671
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<v Speaker 2>present myself and do it?

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<v Speaker 1>So so yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So the outfit was part of it, so that the

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<v Speaker 2>kill is something I performed anyway, So I was like, okay,

675
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<v Speaker 2>I need to go of this. I need to kind

676
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<v Speaker 2>of get some other bits and bobs go the color

677
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<v Speaker 2>themes of purple being my my theme. And so the

678
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<v Speaker 2>song that I wrote is called Jumper, so I was like,

679
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<v Speaker 2>I need to have a jumper. So the idea, it's

680
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<v Speaker 2>kind of like a queer love song. Essentially, an idea

681
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<v Speaker 2>is in the chorus. It's like it's kind of like

682
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<v Speaker 2>a sweet sentiment. But I so I want to wear

683
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<v Speaker 2>your jumper? Is that idea?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I wrote it after watching Heart Stopper? Did

685
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<v Speaker 1>you ever watch so?

686
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<v Speaker 2>I binge watched like the second series of that after

687
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<v Speaker 2>coming back from music festival. I was already quite tired

688
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:50.039
<v Speaker 2>and emotional anyway, then watch that and I was like, oh, exactly,

689
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<v Speaker 2>and then wrote this song and I was kinda like,

690
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<v Speaker 2>you know, imagine if I was a teenager now, like

691
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<v Speaker 2>being able to actually have like a boyfriend when I

692
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<v Speaker 2>was a teenager and learning a lot of those hard

693
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<v Speaker 2>lessons about love at that time. So it's kind of

694
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<v Speaker 2>it came from that angle of like sort of almost

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<v Speaker 2>like I wish I'd been able to do all those

696
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<v Speaker 2>things that you might have done when you're a teenager

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<v Speaker 2>exploring love, but I couldn't necessarily do when I was that.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously a passion for Eurovision, I mean obviously from the

699
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<v Speaker 1>jumper as well, with the hearts of the Eurovision so much.

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<v Speaker 1>The Gallery of even made sure that we've got the

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<v Speaker 1>Eurovision logo flying up in the back of the show here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's beul it's a choice.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, hearts are you know, hearts are the

704
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<v Speaker 1>things that's for a big thing, especially for Eurovision. And

705
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<v Speaker 1>you said that, you know, in the future you'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to work with collaborations and stuff with other people. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think of this year's UK entry?

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<v Speaker 2>So I actually was just listening and watching the video

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<v Speaker 2>before I came to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I I think it's it's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>I think as in terms of the history of UK entries, go,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's pretty good. Song and it's likely Aside

713
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<v Speaker 2>from your vision, I think it's pretty good pop pop song,

714
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<v Speaker 2>Cyndi pop. It's all the kind of things that I

715
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<v Speaker 2>can love in pop music anyway, And I think all

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<v Speaker 2>the Alexander is like a very great performer, likable performer,

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it's potential to do well. I don't

718
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<v Speaker 2>think it's a winner, but I think I'll do pretty well.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the music video stuff so well, it's quite cool,

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<v Speaker 2>like quite so be interesting to see what the actual

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<v Speaker 2>staging is of the show in itself. I think in

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<v Speaker 2>some ways though, like that almost is maybe a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a hurdle that when you get straight you have

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<v Speaker 2>to go straight into the final. You don't get the

725
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<v Speaker 2>chance to kind of test things out in like the

726
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<v Speaker 2>semi finals and kind of learn and grow.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can just have to come in. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. How what do you feel about it? So? Okay, song,

729
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<v Speaker 1>it's it's very much. It's all the Alexander, and I

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<v Speaker 1>love all of Alexander for all their political messages as

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<v Speaker 1>well as the music. It's just very much. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>a standout? I don't think. I don't think we're gonna win.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I wouldn't. I think this is. It's definitely

734
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<v Speaker 1>not Katrina energy. It's not to that level. And we

735
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<v Speaker 1>keep irritating the rest of Europe. So that's why we're

736
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<v Speaker 1>never actually going to win. But maybe they'll let you

737
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<v Speaker 1>keep Ukraine win again. I mean quite possibly two albums

738
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<v Speaker 1>this year exactly. But yeah, So that Eurovision hit that

739
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<v Speaker 1>you've made, what's going to happen with it? Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for calling it hit? You're gonna put it in the bin.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's going to come out. So I'm going to

742
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<v Speaker 2>release it in April. So I because it all happened

743
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<v Speaker 2>so quickly. All I had together is basically backing track,

744
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:35.199
<v Speaker 2>so I need to now finish like the main vocals.

745
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<v Speaker 2>And I play saxophone as well, so I've got that

746
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<v Speaker 2>on on there. So I'm gonna get all that tidied

747
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<v Speaker 2>up and then we'll release it in in April as

748
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<v Speaker 2>a fun little.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing that happened because of your vision. So cool. On

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<v Speaker 1>what's the song called Someone's called Jumper?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's what you've got to watch over And where

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<v Speaker 1>will it be available? Will be available on all your

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<v Speaker 1>usual streaming services Spotify, Apple, et cetera. Whatever. Listen to

755
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:00.800
<v Speaker 1>your music wonderful, perfect and if we wanted to reach

756
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<v Speaker 1>out and grab you on the social media is how

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<v Speaker 1>could we do that? Sure, please do reach out and

758
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<v Speaker 1>grab me. I'm the only fans link for.

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<v Speaker 2>You can grab me at Ven Smith on all the

760
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<v Speaker 2>socials and on Spotify, et cetera. So it's ve double

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<v Speaker 2>N like event diagram I'd like to describe it as,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Smith with a Y.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much. You are very welcome. So that

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<v Speaker 1>is almost the end of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Just remember to join us on our social media here

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<v Speaker 2>at the cud TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for watching. How We'll see you all soon. Bye, goodbye,