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<v Speaker 1>Good to see you, so excited to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>Should see the equipment we're worrying which the listeners can

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<v Speaker 2>see this. I mean you look like a cyborger.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, you know what we got to look official though.

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<v Speaker 2>Really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to the DNC.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, we're underneath a big statue of Michael Jordan.

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<v Speaker 1>I think people want to know that. They want to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, understand the atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 3>We have been laying the scene here at the DNC.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you just get here today?

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<v Speaker 1>I got here at first thing this morning, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go. I've been to well, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>six events already.

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<v Speaker 2>My god, it's only midday.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's busy, busy here, very exciting, good food, good people,

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<v Speaker 1>good fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And are you ready to win? I'll be there on tomorrow. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>oh excellent.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not they're giving us speakers and drips and drop.

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<v Speaker 3>So what is your message going to be tomorrow night?

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<v Speaker 2>When you want? You can't. I can't. I can't give

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<v Speaker 2>you this, you know, like you give me the vibe

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<v Speaker 2>and give you a feel for it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I'm shockingly I'm gonna endorse Kamala Harris for

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<v Speaker 1>president and Tim Wallas for Vice president.

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<v Speaker 3>Thought that was going to be in there.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of excitement here.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's about I think, you know, what I

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<v Speaker 1>always talk about is a few things. One is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pro freedom, right, I mean, protecting people's right to make

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<v Speaker 1>their own decisions, whether it's your own decisions over your

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<v Speaker 1>own body, who you love, who you marry, choice, all

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<v Speaker 1>these things. And you know what you read. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>these are very personal things. Government shouldn't be involved. Get

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<v Speaker 1>the government out of the bedrooms, get the government out

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<v Speaker 1>of the libraries.

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<v Speaker 2>Just let people do what they want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>That's an interesting I think we heard some of that

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<v Speaker 3>last night. We're going to hear it again tonight. That

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<v Speaker 3>freedom is one of the themes here. Joy is the

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<v Speaker 3>other theme. But you can understand where people who were

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<v Speaker 3>deeply affected by government edicts on things like COVID vaccines

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<v Speaker 3>would be like, wait a minute, wait a minute. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>can you see where that would be a little troublesome thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean Donald Trump was hardcore on vaccinations, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think in Colorado, you know, some people got

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<v Speaker 1>vac some didn't, and that was their decision, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't be a different stations of different things.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think, you know, I think the science is

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<v Speaker 2>there for.

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<v Speaker 1>People to want to look at it. They can get

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<v Speaker 1>faxter and how it's up to them.

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<v Speaker 3>You're a businessman. And Friday night, Vice President Harris unrolled

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<v Speaker 3>her first really big policy positions of economic issues. What

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<v Speaker 3>do you think about what she's rolling out? What is

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<v Speaker 3>your take on that so far?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look, you know, you compare the two right, and

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<v Speaker 1>the part that I've been most critical on Donald Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>is the tariffs, the big tariffs ten percent and then.

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<v Speaker 3>We're in agreement on that. You know, we're an agreement on.

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<v Speaker 2>Any governor twenty percent. He said. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 2>like and we just head back to school.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, our kids are twelve and ten, so pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much every item you're buying back.

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<v Speaker 2>To school, you know, they're important, they're made, they would

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<v Speaker 2>cost ten just ten to twenty percent more.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I think that one thing I like to see

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that I hope the callin Harris talks

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<v Speaker 1>about more. And there's some of that is how we

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<v Speaker 1>can balance the budget, how we you know, how we

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<v Speaker 1>can move towards balancing the budget. That's going to be important.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to hear more of that I think both

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<v Speaker 1>candidate should talk about that more.

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<v Speaker 2>Franklin, Yeah, we've.

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<v Speaker 3>Now found few areas of agreement Governor too.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it's also Congress's fault. Really, Remember Congress

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<v Speaker 1>spends the money and the President obviously signs at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day. But we also need to put

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<v Speaker 1>pressure on members of Congress senators to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>bring the budget into balance. Personally, believe in a balanced

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<v Speaker 1>budget amendment to our federal Constitution. I sponsored a bipartisan

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<v Speaker 1>when I was in Congress.

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado has that really funny audience rebult budget. You're in Colorado,

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<v Speaker 2>we have to It's no big deal if there are a.

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<v Speaker 3>Level of seriousness, because one of my frustrations as a

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<v Speaker 3>Republican is that the Republican Party used to pretend to

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<v Speaker 3>be the party of fiscal responsibility. The deficit exploded during

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump. So is there a measure of seriousness? Do

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<v Speaker 3>you feel like that is something that the Democratic Party

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<v Speaker 3>is ready to tackle, because there's so many moving parts

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<v Speaker 3>to that that we're not going to get into here

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<v Speaker 3>that make it challenging for someone running for reelection to

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<v Speaker 3>say I'm not bringing home the gravy.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you're right, Mandy and like, yes, traditionally, historically the

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans who were more the party of fiscal responsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>This leaves that, you know, the Donald Trump sort of free.

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<v Speaker 1>Spending policies leave a huge opening for Democrats to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about reducing our deficit, bringing our budget in balance. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean a lot of the projections around even what the

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<v Speaker 1>terrorists will bring in are totally fictitious.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, They're not going to bring in money.

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<v Speaker 1>And in fact, there retaliatory terrifts are going to destroy

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<v Speaker 1>American jobs for maid in America, growing in America products

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<v Speaker 1>and produce. So yeah, I hope that that enters a

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<v Speaker 1>dialogue more huge opening for the Democrats to be the

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<v Speaker 1>party of fiscal responsibility, an area that used to be

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<v Speaker 1>more publican turf.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that possible though?

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<v Speaker 3>When Friday Night Vice President Harris rolls out free money

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<v Speaker 3>for a house, you know, we're going to try price

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<v Speaker 3>caps or profit caps on grocery stores, which would wherever

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<v Speaker 3>those have been tried, they have not been successful. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean long term, they talk about destruction to a market.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, Look, I'm against price controls, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>and Kamala Harris is against price controls.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing un a plan that had that.

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<v Speaker 1>This talked about anti trust investigations into.

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<v Speaker 2>Price fixing a very different thing. Do I think it occurs,

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps rarely, and it should be investigated. It's a crime.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like dumping a product under cost when there are

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<v Speaker 1>breakdowns in the market mechanism, when somebody is a monopoly

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<v Speaker 1>or an oligopoly. Oligopoly can co op the market for

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<v Speaker 1>their own advantage. Of course there needs to be an

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<v Speaker 1>anti trust investigation. I hope that's something that Democrats are

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans can agree on. Price controls bad idea. Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 1>is against them, I'm against them. I assume Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean she did say she wants to cap insulin prices,

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<v Speaker 3>so that is a price control, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we've done it in Colorado. I mean it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit newhunced Manny. We cap the out of pocket

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<v Speaker 1>cost of insulin, and that's what somebody pays for it.

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<v Speaker 1>You still have an insurer paying for it, you have

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<v Speaker 1>other agencies that are paying for it. So when we're

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<v Speaker 1>really talking about and I need to look at what

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<v Speaker 1>she's proposing, I assume it's similar to what Colorado's done,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think there's up to twenty some states that

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<v Speaker 1>have done it, and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Premise of that is for most people. You know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're a diabetic, that's not your fault. You need insulin.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, we should, We should.

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<v Speaker 1>We should reasonably cap the out of pocket I think

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<v Speaker 1>at Colorado's fifty bucks a month, something like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>a national policy to do something similar I think would

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<v Speaker 1>be welcomed by diabetics across the country and it would

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<v Speaker 1>be a good thing. It doesn't mean that in any

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<v Speaker 1>way it's a price control. It's simply who pays for it,

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<v Speaker 1>and the state insurance should pay for the remainder above

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<v Speaker 3>I mean my thing is is why can't we find

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<v Speaker 3>a way to incentivize biologic companies to make this insulin?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, is there any way to use a carrot

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<v Speaker 3>instead of a stick, or or pass the tax that

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<v Speaker 3>passed that cost onto insurers, which ultimately then pass it

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<v Speaker 3>on to everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Percent It should be far cheaper than it is period.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we could get into the problems with the FDA,

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<v Speaker 1>the problem with sort of the monopolies they're given to

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<v Speaker 1>the big farmer companies. Look, yeah, insulin is inexpensive.

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<v Speaker 2>To make, and not only the out of pocket costs.

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<v Speaker 1>The total cash should be under fifty dollars a month, right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's ridiculous that the total cost is hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars a month, no matter how you parse it.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and I do hope and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris will take on big farm and hopefully address

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<v Speaker 1>some of those drivers.

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<v Speaker 2>Different states have played around with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Utah California. They both looked at hey, do we contract

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<v Speaker 1>for production of insulin?

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<v Speaker 2>Do we create our own facilities?

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<v Speaker 1>How do we break out of this market that isn't

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<v Speaker 1>working because of the FDA enforced monopolies.

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<v Speaker 3>Last question, how is the DNC group from Colorado? How

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<v Speaker 3>they have to be excited? I was talking at the

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<v Speaker 3>RNC that the tone I thought if Joe Biden was

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<v Speaker 3>the candidate would be much different. The level of excitement

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<v Speaker 3>here is really really high. What are you hearing from

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<v Speaker 3>the Colorado delegation or if you had a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I hung out with some of them this morning

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<v Speaker 1>and they are excited, and as you indicated, they're excited.

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<v Speaker 2>About Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, these are folks that of course were

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<v Speaker 1>backing Joe Biden and they'd vote from Refu as a candidate.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think there's an excitement level there around Kamala.

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<v Speaker 1>People that are willing to knock more doors, to make

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<v Speaker 1>more calls, to donate more. People are excited about a

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<v Speaker 1>new face, a new generation, a new opportunity, the energy

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<v Speaker 1>that she's infused in the campaign, with a whole vision

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<v Speaker 1>of saving people money and protecting our freedom. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>exciting for Colorado's and for Americans.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, that's Governor Jared Poulis. I appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 2>Always pleasure Mandy.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you get busy doing your other stuff?