Speaker 1: Good to see you, so excited to see you.
Speaker 2: Should see the equipment we're worrying which the listeners can
Speaker 2: see this. I mean you look like a cyborger.
Speaker 3: I know, you know what we got to look official though.
Speaker 2: Really cool.
Speaker 3: Welcome to the DNC.
Speaker 1: By the way, we're underneath a big statue of Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1: I think people want to know that. They want to,
Speaker 1: you know, understand the atmosphere.
Speaker 3: We have been laying the scene here at the DNC.
Speaker 3: Did you just get here today?
Speaker 1: I got here at first thing this morning, and I'm
Speaker 1: ready to go. I've been to well, I don't know
Speaker 1: six events already.
Speaker 2: My god, it's only midday.
Speaker 1: Well, it's busy, busy here, very exciting, good food, good people,
Speaker 1: good fun.
Speaker 2: And are you ready to win? I'll be there on tomorrow. Yes,
Speaker 2: oh excellent.
Speaker 3: They're not they're giving us speakers and drips and drop.
Speaker 3: So what is your message going to be tomorrow night?
Speaker 2: When you want? You can't. I can't. I can't give
Speaker 2: you this, you know, like you give me the vibe
Speaker 2: and give you a feel for it.
Speaker 1: You know. I'm shockingly I'm gonna endorse Kamala Harris for
Speaker 1: president and Tim Wallas for Vice president.
Speaker 3: Thought that was going to be in there.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of excitement here.
Speaker 1: I mean it's about I think, you know, what I
Speaker 1: always talk about is a few things. One is, you know,
Speaker 1: pro freedom, right, I mean, protecting people's right to make
Speaker 1: their own decisions, whether it's your own decisions over your
Speaker 1: own body, who you love, who you marry, choice, all
Speaker 1: these things. And you know what you read. I mean,
Speaker 1: these are very personal things. Government shouldn't be involved. Get
Speaker 1: the government out of the bedrooms, get the government out
Speaker 1: of the libraries.
Speaker 2: Just let people do what they want to do.
Speaker 3: That's an interesting I think we heard some of that
Speaker 3: last night. We're going to hear it again tonight. That
Speaker 3: freedom is one of the themes here. Joy is the
Speaker 3: other theme. But you can understand where people who were
Speaker 3: deeply affected by government edicts on things like COVID vaccines
Speaker 3: would be like, wait a minute, wait a minute. I mean,
Speaker 3: can you see where that would be a little troublesome thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Donald Trump was hardcore on vaccinations, right,
Speaker 1: and I think in Colorado, you know, some people got
Speaker 1: vac some didn't, and that was their decision, so you know,
Speaker 1: didn't be a different stations of different things.
Speaker 2: But I think, you know, I think the science is
Speaker 2: there for.
Speaker 1: People to want to look at it. They can get
Speaker 1: faxter and how it's up to them.
Speaker 3: You're a businessman. And Friday night, Vice President Harris unrolled
Speaker 3: her first really big policy positions of economic issues. What
Speaker 3: do you think about what she's rolling out? What is
Speaker 3: your take on that so far?
Speaker 1: Well, look, you know, you compare the two right, and
Speaker 1: the part that I've been most critical on Donald Trump's
Speaker 1: is the tariffs, the big tariffs ten percent and then.
Speaker 3: We're in agreement on that. You know, we're an agreement on.
Speaker 2: Any governor twenty percent. He said. I mean, this is
Speaker 2: like and we just head back to school.
Speaker 1: You know, our kids are twelve and ten, so pretty
Speaker 1: much every item you're buying back.
Speaker 2: To school, you know, they're important, they're made, they would
Speaker 2: cost ten just ten to twenty percent more.
Speaker 1: Look, I think that one thing I like to see
Speaker 1: and I think that I hope the callin Harris talks
Speaker 1: about more. And there's some of that is how we
Speaker 1: can balance the budget, how we you know, how we
Speaker 1: can move towards balancing the budget. That's going to be important.
Speaker 1: I'd like to hear more of that I think both
Speaker 1: candidate should talk about that more.
Speaker 2: Franklin, Yeah, we've.
Speaker 3: Now found few areas of agreement Governor too.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's also Congress's fault. Really, Remember Congress
Speaker 1: spends the money and the President obviously signs at the
Speaker 1: end of the day. But we also need to put
Speaker 1: pressure on members of Congress senators to be able to
Speaker 1: bring the budget into balance. Personally, believe in a balanced
Speaker 1: budget amendment to our federal Constitution. I sponsored a bipartisan
Speaker 1: when I was in Congress.
Speaker 2: Colorado has that really funny audience rebult budget. You're in Colorado,
Speaker 2: we have to It's no big deal if there are a.
Speaker 3: Level of seriousness, because one of my frustrations as a
Speaker 3: Republican is that the Republican Party used to pretend to
Speaker 3: be the party of fiscal responsibility. The deficit exploded during
Speaker 3: Donald Trump. So is there a measure of seriousness? Do
Speaker 3: you feel like that is something that the Democratic Party
Speaker 3: is ready to tackle, because there's so many moving parts
Speaker 3: to that that we're not going to get into here
Speaker 3: that make it challenging for someone running for reelection to
Speaker 3: say I'm not bringing home the gravy.
Speaker 1: No, you're right, Mandy and like, yes, traditionally, historically the
Speaker 1: Republicans who were more the party of fiscal responsibility.
Speaker 2: This leaves that, you know, the Donald Trump sort of free.
Speaker 1: Spending policies leave a huge opening for Democrats to talk
Speaker 1: about reducing our deficit, bringing our budget in balance. I
Speaker 1: mean a lot of the projections around even what the
Speaker 1: terrorists will bring in are totally fictitious.
Speaker 2: Uh, They're not going to bring in money.
Speaker 1: And in fact, there retaliatory terrifts are going to destroy
Speaker 1: American jobs for maid in America, growing in America products
Speaker 1: and produce. So yeah, I hope that that enters a
Speaker 1: dialogue more huge opening for the Democrats to be the
Speaker 1: party of fiscal responsibility, an area that used to be
Speaker 1: more publican turf.
Speaker 2: Is that possible though?
Speaker 3: When Friday Night Vice President Harris rolls out free money
Speaker 3: for a house, you know, we're going to try price
Speaker 3: caps or profit caps on grocery stores, which would wherever
Speaker 3: those have been tried, they have not been successful. I
Speaker 3: mean long term, they talk about destruction to a market.
Speaker 1: Well, no, Look, I'm against price controls, and I think
Speaker 1: and Kamala Harris is against price controls.
Speaker 2: There's nothing un a plan that had that.
Speaker 1: This talked about anti trust investigations into.
Speaker 2: Price fixing a very different thing. Do I think it occurs,
Speaker 2: perhaps rarely, and it should be investigated. It's a crime.
Speaker 1: It's like dumping a product under cost when there are
Speaker 1: breakdowns in the market mechanism, when somebody is a monopoly
Speaker 1: or an oligopoly. Oligopoly can co op the market for
Speaker 1: their own advantage. Of course there needs to be an
Speaker 1: anti trust investigation. I hope that's something that Democrats are
Speaker 1: Republicans can agree on. Price controls bad idea. Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: is against them, I'm against them. I assume Donald Trump
Speaker 1: is against them.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean she did say she wants to cap insulin prices,
Speaker 3: so that is a price control, right.
Speaker 1: Well, we've done it in Colorado. I mean it's a
Speaker 1: little bit newhunced Manny. We cap the out of pocket
Speaker 1: cost of insulin, and that's what somebody pays for it.
Speaker 1: You still have an insurer paying for it, you have
Speaker 1: other agencies that are paying for it. So when we're
Speaker 1: really talking about and I need to look at what
Speaker 1: she's proposing, I assume it's similar to what Colorado's done,
Speaker 1: and I think there's up to twenty some states that
Speaker 1: have done it, and the.
Speaker 2: Premise of that is for most people. You know, if
Speaker 2: you're a diabetic, that's not your fault. You need insulin.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we should, We should.
Speaker 1: We should reasonably cap the out of pocket I think
Speaker 1: at Colorado's fifty bucks a month, something like that, and
Speaker 1: a national policy to do something similar I think would
Speaker 1: be welcomed by diabetics across the country and it would
Speaker 1: be a good thing. It doesn't mean that in any
Speaker 1: way it's a price control. It's simply who pays for it,
Speaker 1: and the state insurance should pay for the remainder above
Speaker 1: the fifty bucks.
Speaker 3: I mean my thing is is why can't we find
Speaker 3: a way to incentivize biologic companies to make this insulin?
Speaker 3: I mean, is there any way to use a carrot
Speaker 3: instead of a stick, or or pass the tax that
Speaker 3: passed that cost onto insurers, which ultimately then pass it
Speaker 3: on to everybody.
Speaker 1: Percent It should be far cheaper than it is period.
Speaker 1: I mean, we could get into the problems with the FDA,
Speaker 1: the problem with sort of the monopolies they're given to
Speaker 1: the big farmer companies. Look, yeah, insulin is inexpensive.
Speaker 2: To make, and not only the out of pocket costs.
Speaker 1: The total cash should be under fifty dollars a month, right, So,
Speaker 1: I mean it's ridiculous that the total cost is hundreds
Speaker 1: of dollars a month, no matter how you parse it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and I do hope and I think that
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris will take on big farm and hopefully address
Speaker 1: some of those drivers.
Speaker 2: Different states have played around with that.
Speaker 1: Utah California. They both looked at hey, do we contract
Speaker 1: for production of insulin?
Speaker 2: Do we create our own facilities?
Speaker 1: How do we break out of this market that isn't
Speaker 1: working because of the FDA enforced monopolies.
Speaker 3: Last question, how is the DNC group from Colorado? How
Speaker 3: they have to be excited? I was talking at the
Speaker 3: RNC that the tone I thought if Joe Biden was
Speaker 3: the candidate would be much different. The level of excitement
Speaker 3: here is really really high. What are you hearing from
Speaker 3: the Colorado delegation or if you had a chance to
Speaker 3: even speak to any of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hung out with some of them this morning
Speaker 1: and they are excited, and as you indicated, they're excited.
Speaker 2: About Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, these are folks that of course were
Speaker 1: backing Joe Biden and they'd vote from Refu as a candidate.
Speaker 2: But I think there's an excitement level there around Kamala.
Speaker 1: People that are willing to knock more doors, to make
Speaker 1: more calls, to donate more. People are excited about a
Speaker 1: new face, a new generation, a new opportunity, the energy
Speaker 1: that she's infused in the campaign, with a whole vision
Speaker 1: of saving people money and protecting our freedom. It's really
Speaker 1: exciting for Colorado's and for Americans.
Speaker 3: All right, that's Governor Jared Poulis. I appreciate your time.
Speaker 2: Always pleasure Mandy.
Speaker 3: Do you get busy doing your other stuff?