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smartphone or tablet, and again, thank you so much for

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your support. We had Andrew dunne on in the first

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hour and I asked him about a story that actually

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appeared at the Washington Post. It's a story by Brianna

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Sachs and Jake Spring, and the focus is on Donald Trump,

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because of course, right it's on how folks in western

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North Carolina that were devastated by Hurricane Helene that they

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all voted for Trump and they thought they were getting

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Trump to help them, and now you know, where's all

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the help and all of this. Okay, that's the focus

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of the story. But there's a pretty amazing account in

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here that I had not heard before, and I feel

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like I followed this stuff pretty closely. I'm not sure

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why I was not aware of this but let's just

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kind of go through this piece by piece. So the

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story centers, you know, as you normally find with these

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types of stories. They go to Avery County and it's

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a you know, a two lane highway, and western North

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Carolina winds through a landscape littered with crushed cars, houses

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knocked off their foundations, and thousands of downed trees. Five

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months after Hurricane Helene, about three hundred privately owned bridges

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in Avery County have yet to be fixed. Okay. While

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Americans typically rely on a mix of state and federal

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aid in the wake of a disaster, the recovery for

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many here has become akin to a personal test of

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their relationship with President Donald Trump. That lingering frustrations. Again,

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they're connecting Trump to these voters, right, and it's a

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personal relationship. If he doesn't deliver for them, oh, they're

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gonna vote against him next time around. Oh wait, yeah,

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never mind. Okay. The lingering frustration across parts of twenty

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seven hurricane hit counties in North Carolina's Appalachian Mountain region

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speaks to the complexity of rebuilding in a place dotted

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with Federal Emergency Management Agency centers. But people say they

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feel abandoned. Trump and his allies have blasted President Joe

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Biden's response, feeding an online frenzy that has portrayed FEMA's

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response as disastrous. So again, Orange man bad, you get

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the sense. Let me skip ahead here, because this is

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the to me, this is the headline. To me, this

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is the story complaints about And this is I don't know,

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second page in on a six page story. Yeah, so,

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complaints about FEMA always followed disasters. As the nation's lead

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disaster response agency, FEMA has a specific and often misunderstood

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role to provide funding, coordinate resources, and help state and

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local officials navigate a complex web of programs and resources.

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FEMA was on the ground even before the storm hit,

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according to Amber Silver, an emergency management expert at the

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University of Albany who also happens to have both of

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her names the names of alerts Amber and Silver. Anyway,

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I just noted that I thought it was interesting, very Dickensian.

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So she called it a common misperception that FEMA was

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late in coming or that they didn't get to certain

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parts of the state. Helene's sprawl made the response logistically complex,

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especially since some mountainous communities and hollers in Appalacha are

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extremely difficult to access. All of that is true, and

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I was saying this from the very beginning that the

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topographical challenges presented in western North Carolina are not the

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normal kinds of environments that FEMA goes into a lot

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of times. They're at the coast, right, they got a

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hurricane that's slammed in to the country. It's usually it's

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usually at the coast, and it's way more flat land,

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you know, to see something like this in the mountains,

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and then the wall of water and the types of

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mud slides. It's just this is not something that they

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deal with on a regular basis. Another potential obstacle was

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that North Carolina here it is never appointed a disaster

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recovery coordinator to take charge of communicating with federal agencies,

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which is what FEMA recommends. William Ray, the States director

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of the agency, confirmed that, saying officials decided to take

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a different approach. So I'm not sure what is that

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different approach. They were just not going to have somebody

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running point under Roy Cooper. But then when Josh Stein

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took over, apparently they did. They have somebody. Now, what

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the heck? What was Roy Cooper doing. How is it

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possible that Roy Cooper as governor for eight years with

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multiple hurricanes, right, that he never could quite figure out

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how to get people into homes after these disasters. It's

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been seven years, eight years since some of those hurricanes

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left people homeless, and some of those folks still don't

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have their homes replaced. From Matthew and Florence let alone, Helene,

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this guy has gotten a complete pass by North Carolina

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media for his ineffectual disaster response. And we saw it,

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heard the stories. Right, this is the five year anniversary

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of the beginning of COVID, right, and everybody you know,

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ran to his well. They couldn't actually go in person

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to his press conferences during COVID, but reporters would go

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and join the zoom call and patiently, you know, raise

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their hand digitally and wait to get called on, and

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you know, ask questions about how can we enforce you know,

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these lockdowns, lock us down harder, daddy, you know, like

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that was that was the entire tone of all of

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this stuff. There was there was like no skepticism at all.

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There was just this this rolling over and hoping that

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he knew what he was doing. And just giving him

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the benefit of the doubt that he did know what

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he was doing. And that's fine if that's the way

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you want to play it while it's going on. But

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afterwards you should take a look and see did he

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actually make the right decisions? Some of these things work,

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did some of them not work? We should have an

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accounting and we have not done that. Nobody has done

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that with his policies. People haven't held him to account

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for some of these decisions. So this is a pretty

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big one. Right, Why why are we just now? How

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did the Washington Post figure this out? And nobody else?

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I don't know the answer to that, but they did.

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They figured this out that apparently he never appointed a

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disaster recovery coordinator. Natalie Simpson, an emergency management expert at

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the University of Buffalo, said that she was shocked that

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the state did not appoint a disaster response czar and

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said this could help explain the uneven response. If there

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were genuine problems with FEMA's response, like not penetrating fast

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enough into the affected areas, somebody that the state appointed

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as the czar would have been sounding deal arm earlier. Right,

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That's why it seemed like their response was not being

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well run. It's because it wasn't. It wasn't. If FEMA

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was guilty of anything, the state of North Carolina is

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equally guilty of it, she said. It wasn't until early

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January that newly elected governor Josh Stein appointed a leadership

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team to oversee the recovery in western North Carolina. Josh

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Stein did that, and even now, as we heard from

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Andrew Dunn in the last hour, I don't hear much

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from that guy Collabria I think is his name. I

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don't hear much at all from that office, from whoever

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it is. That's running point like this is one of

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the things that people expect of their governors to be

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competent and surround themselves with competent They have to respond

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to these disasters. You have to and we have known

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this since the days of Jim Hunt, right going back

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forty years. You got to know how to respond to

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natural disasters. And Roy Cooper just apparently never learned, which

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kind of makes sense because he went from you know,

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a legislative seat, then to attorney general. You're not really

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dealing with that stuff there, and then he ends up

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as the governor. And that was probably the first time

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in his life he ever had to really worry about

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disaster response, and he didn't do a very good job

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at it. Now will that haunt him when he runs

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for US Senate, if he runs for US Senate against

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Tom Tillis, I don't know. Will anybody in the media

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care to ask him? I don't know that either. All right,

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as they make the media landscape more transparent. So the

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Washington Post with this story about our former governor, my

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good friend Ray Cooper, who did not appoint anybody as

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a disaster recovery coordinator to take charge of communicating with

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federal agencies. And this is something that FEMA recommends that

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the states do, but the state did not. Roy Cooper

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did not do this. And I saw Matt Mercer, who

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is the Republican Party, the North Carolina Republican Parties communications guy,

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and you know, he points out here that after families

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down East went the entirety of Roy Cooper's tenure as

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governor without getting homes rebuilt because of incompetence or willful

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negligence in recovery from Hurricanes Matthew and Florence, the final

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act of Roy Cooper's time was screwing over the other

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part of the state, the western part of the state.

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Like that's three hurricanes three hurricanes that Roy Cooper failed

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at and A wasn't a lifetime pandemic. Which, oh, by

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the way, did you see the uh do you see

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the protesting that they're doing around the country over the weekend.

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They were doing the rallies and such, the stand up

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for science, not for Fauci. No, this isn't standing up

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for Fauci aka the science. This is. This is to

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This is in defense of government funded grants that have

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been identified for potential cuts by doge right. And you

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remember Francis Collins, Remember that guy, the guy who wrote, well,

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he led the NIH but then he also sang like

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rewrites of folk tunes and yeah, yeah, he did one

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somewhere after the pandemic. It was to the tune of

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Somewhere over the Rainbow. Yeah, that's well, he did it again. Yeah,

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I got I've got the audio. We'll take a listen

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to it. But let me get let me finish up

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this Washington Post piece that since the disaster, FEMA has

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poured nearly eight hundred million dollars into North Carolina's recovery.

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About half that funding has gone to one hundred and

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fifty six thousand households for rental assistance, home repairs and

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other relief. They were on the ground here with us

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since the beginning, and we're here with us all the

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way through the response, said William Ray, speaking of FEMA.

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In every response and recovery effort. We wish things had

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gone faster, but that is the nature of disaster response.

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Although many people said they were helped by the agency,

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in fifteen weeks of driving across the state from his

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home in Greenville, Sean Hendrix said he saw just two

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FEMA workers and to him and to other residents, all

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the federal rules in red tape have left people floundering

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in dire financial situations and unacceptable living conditions. And then

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they talked with Matt Vaughan's Van Swoll, a thirty year

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old marketer who was one of Sean Hendricks's avid followers.

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Sean Hendricks was apparently one of the Mister Beast's guys.

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The YouTuber Mister Beast, he's one of his guys. Like Hendricks,

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Von Swall remains outraged by what he described as FEMA's

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complete failure to help his community of Weaverville and those

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around him, as well local elected officials in Avery County,

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all Republicans, say, the new administration and Trump's executive order

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have made little discernible difference so far. William Ray, the

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head of North Carolina Emergency Management, said that the federal

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government's responsiveness on the disaster has been about the same

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under Trump and Biden. So that's where it stands now.

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I'm sure just like the homelessness problem, now we can

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tell the story. Right now, we'll be able to tell

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the story because now it's Trump's FEMA that's failing. Here's

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got a message from It's all a distraction who says

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Hurricane Cooper was the worst storm to hit North Carolina.

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I did mention Francis Collins uh and Russ says I

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might be more disgusted with that guy than even Fauci.

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His fingerprints were all over the sketchy research programs and

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horrific response, but he used his faith as a shield

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against criticism and a cudgel to force people with legitimate

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concerns into compliance. He did the whole evangelical influencer circuit,

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questioning other people's faith if they didn't like what was happening. Yeah,

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I was not aware. I just recently found out about

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Collins's evangelical connections, and yet I was not aware of

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any of that, of that effort that he was undertaking

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and had for a while. But I do know that

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the guy loves to sing some nineteen sixties folk music

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protest songs. I do know that he likes to do it.

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In fact, there was a rally on Friday. I guess

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it was against the Trump administrations sweeping cuts to research

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funding and federal agencies tasked with advancing science. This is

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from the USA Today article dubbed stand Up for Science.

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The rallies brought together leading researchers, former administrators, and people

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who benefited from medical advances. The main rally occurred on

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the steps of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington excuse me, DC,

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with an estimated thirty events held from Seattle to Tallahassee, Florida,

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and even in France. Why France.

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 1: Doctor Francis Collins, the longtime former director of the National

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Institutes of Health here is well. He took the stage,

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he made some comments for about a minute or two,

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and then he brought down the house here.

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Speaker 2: I think if we're going to talk about people, there's

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one more thing we need to do before I sit down.

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Speaker 3: We need to sing out there.

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Speaker 4: Yes, okay, Yes, we're gonna hope the wind doesn't get

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the better of this.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yes, he's really working this crowd. Oh yeah, there

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we go. Oh my gosh, he got his papers paper

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clipped from the wind.

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Speaker 2: Can we get a guitar?

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Speaker 4: And this is a sing along?

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Speaker 1: Yes, and a chorus.

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Speaker 2: It's really easy to learn.

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Speaker 5: Can you find the guitar?

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Speaker 1: I mean I think I hear a guitar. Yeah, that's

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a guitar. Something he can't hear the guitar?

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Speaker 2: Hello, sound booth?

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, why.

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Speaker 2: Can I get a little if we might be getting

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this to work? Yes, the film's up. Good you can okay?

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Are good?

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Speaker 1: He couldn't tell okay.

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Speaker 2: So this is a song that's often sung at the

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end of a folk festival, but it's been rewritten for

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today by me.

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Speaker 3: It's a song about all the good people that I

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was just talking about. You are all the good people? Well,

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this is a song, Oh God, for all the good people,

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all the good people. We're part this family. This is

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a song for all the good people.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what the heck?

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Speaker 3: We're joined together by this noble dream.

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Speaker 2: You got that, so it's just all the good people.

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Speaker 1: But I'm sorry, I lost track of what lines I'm

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supposed to know for this tune. What with all of

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the technical glitches, I don't understand what's happening. I thought

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you guys had the sound thing figured out, but then

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some guy walks over. He starts adjusting one of the microphones.

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You get the static, and then you get the loud

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pop there. I I don't even know what we're doing

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at this point, Like this is and well, who told

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this man he needs to sing in public? Why are

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they encouraging this kind of behavior? In Francis Collins, didn't

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you learn anything with the somewhere after the pandemic song?

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Why are you still doing this? Why are people encouraging

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him to do this? Now he's gonna get everybody in

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a sing along. And apparently there's one woman who is

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on a microphone, so you're gonna hear her. This is

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like top quality production levels here, guys, Top quality.

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Speaker 2: Second line part of this family, and the last line,

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we're joined together by this noble dream.

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Speaker 4: Do that with me.

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Speaker 3: This is a song for all the good people.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what the heck part.

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Speaker 3: Of this family. This is a song for all the

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good people. We're joined together by this noble dream.

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Speaker 1: So you really do get a sense of the virtue signaling, right,

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It really does come through. You are the good people,

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We are the noble dream pursuers and hars and such

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a right. They really do think of themselves in these terms,

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in these ways, we are morally superior. Like this is

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a perfect encapsulation of the left. It really is. Thank you,

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doctor Collins. You know, stories are powerful. They help us

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some messages here. This is from Stan who says, so

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Roy Cooper did not appoint somebody to interface with FEMA

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for the Hurricane Helene disaster, as FEMA recommends. Well, wouldn't

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you think that FEMA would have asked who that person was?

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I would think so. Yeah, Like, this is literally the

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first I had heard about them not having a coordinator,

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that Cooper didn't set up somebody to be the point

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person with FEMA, and that that is unusual and this

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is the first I've heard about it, and it came

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to us out of a report at the Washington Post.

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Paul says, you love Elon Musk making cuts to save

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tax dollars. But when Cooper doesn't waste taxpayer money on

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a disaster team, there's a problem. Yeah, yes, yeah, or

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just you know, don't have the funding right, this is

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like this, this is the thing. If you're going to

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promise that kind of an operation FEMA response, then yeah,

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you should have somebody that runs point with that response. Otherwise,

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what you like, what are you even doing? Look, maybe

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Cooper's approach would have been a better approach. I don't

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think it was. It turned out not to be so. Again,

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like there needs to be an assessment of whether his

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decision was the right decision or not. Ken says, thank

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you for highlighting the need for prayer for the woman

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facing surgery and her daughter in Durham who's in the hospital.

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I am one of hundreds who will heed your call. Secondly,

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I have been streaming on my phone since about twelve

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fifty PM and I have experienced no issues with fading volume.

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Thank you, Ken, I appreciate it. So I don't know,

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I'm not sure. I just I pass along the reports

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just so this way, if you are experiencing the same

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sort of an issue, you don't think you're crazy, you know, like,

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wait a minute, is this volume going up and down?

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It's hard to tell. It's all a distraction, says listening

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to Francis Collins makes me wish my feed was cutting out.

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That's fair. You know, he did get he did get

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it going after you know, the the problems with the

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with the microphone and the feed and all of that,

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he did get it going.

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Speaker 5: A song.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for all of those dreamers. I don't know who,

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the woman on the microph.

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Speaker 5: Your answers to come our way, scientists, doctors, students, sauce seekers,

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come and sharing the hops for a much brighter day.

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Speaker 3: Come on. This is a song for all the good.

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Speaker 1: People, all right. So I'm curious, like does this actually work?

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Is that does this motivate the youth or really anybody

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that's not like, I don't know a seventy year old

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that remembers the sixties, which I feel like then that

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you did the sixties wrong if you remember it. But seriously, like,

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is this sing Is this singing supposed to win people

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over to the cause.

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Speaker 3: It's your edication, that's our insperbation.

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Speaker 1: When wet I don't know, but the reverb is we

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have to stand.

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Speaker 3: So this is for all the good people, all them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like this does not feel like I don't know,

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this doesn't get me amped up, you know, it just doesn't.

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I don't know. Can we get some of the Hamas holies,

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maybe get some of them to show you how to

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do like the the proper riotous chanting and beating on

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the drums and stuff. I don't yeah, I don't even

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know what's going on there. Yeah, Francis Collins, no, Russ.

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I don't think he does have anybody in his life

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that loves him enough to tell him to never sing

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in public again. I don't think he does. Yeah, I

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don't think he does, which is said speaking of Elon Musk.

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Have you heard what's been going on there? Terrorists are

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now attacking Elon Musk's Tesla dealerships and vehicles. It's happening

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all over the country and it is, you know, the destruction,

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the vandalism, it is terrorism. That's the whole point, right

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It's to it's to try to force Elon Musk and

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anybody around him to stop doing what they're doing. And

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he's also been Twitter was actual or ex was also

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hit with a hacker attack yesterday. He said that the

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social media platform faced multiple outages around the world on Monday.

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There were several different hacks or d doos. These like

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spam attacks basically that denial of service attacks. He said,

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there was a massive cyber attack against x We get

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attacked every day, but this was done with a lot

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of resources. Either a large coordinated group and or a

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country is involved and we are tracing it. The reports

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of outages were not localized to the US. Users as

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far away as Europe had reported issues using the site

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as well. Again, this is shut up ry, this is

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shut up. Stop doing what you're doing. Stop participating in

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the democracy. You are not allowed to participate because I

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don't agree with your aims, and so you have to

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be stopped. Think about like what they're saying here is

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that we're going to destroy your free speech platform. We're

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going to destroy your efforts to root out waste and

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fraud because we make money because what we have some

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sort of inside track on the platform or something like

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I'm trying to figure out why these are bad things

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per se. All Right, that'll do it for this episode.

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