Speaker 1: Joining me now is Tony Arderburn of wise Wolf Gold
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Speaker 1: or silver monthly. So thank you for joining us, Tony.
Speaker 2: Great to be back. I was good to see you.
Speaker 1: Good to see you too, and it is always a
Speaker 1: pleasure to have you on and I like to get
Speaker 1: to start. As you were talking in the break, your
Speaker 1: opinion on what's going on with the Fed. Of course,
Speaker 1: we saw Trump and the administration talking about, oh, I
Speaker 1: think we're going to fire Powell, and then of course
Speaker 1: he walked back. I don't know. And as we talked
Speaker 1: about last week, is he even capable of doing that?
Speaker 1: We saw him of course float this idea report to
Speaker 1: the DOJ you've done some stuff we don't like, which
Speaker 1: seems to be the only way he'd get him out
Speaker 1: there is charging him with a crime.
Speaker 3: Well, I think we would find out who works for
Speaker 3: who at some level if this was a push to
Speaker 3: the limit.
Speaker 2: I think it's more likely that you know, Powell is getting.
Speaker 3: Pressure to step down when its term expires. He may
Speaker 3: leave beforehand, but it's really a question of an open
Speaker 3: question about policy because with Powell, I mean still I
Speaker 3: mean we're still you know, talking about fiat currency here,
Speaker 3: but you know, a currency backed by nothing that it's
Speaker 3: been increased. The money suppli has been increased by trillions
Speaker 3: upon trillions upon trillions, and the devaluation is almost complete.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you look from nineteen thirteen to now,
Speaker 3: it's about ninety nine percent of all purchasing power has
Speaker 3: been a race from the dollar. But at least Powell,
Speaker 3: you know, they see this strong dollar theory, you know,
Speaker 3: and they want to hold on as long as they
Speaker 3: can to a dollar that the world saves. I mean,
Speaker 3: if you look at interest rates, if you raise interest rates,
Speaker 3: it and it encourages countries and large holders of dollars
Speaker 3: to say, well, you know it's four or five percent,
Speaker 3: I'll put it over here and i'll store it. It'll
Speaker 3: make you know, short term, it'll make X amount for
Speaker 3: me and just parking it. And so they'll be those
Speaker 3: dollars won't go back into circulation and they won't bring
Speaker 3: down the purchasing power. So that's how the game works
Speaker 3: in a microcosm, Well, what happens when you lower rates?
Speaker 3: You know, you see like the short term boons and
Speaker 3: the stock market goes crazy. There's a lot of liquidity,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of lending going on, and things are
Speaker 3: being built for good or ill. Some things it probably shouldn't.
Speaker 3: That's why we feel currency works. So Powell has been
Speaker 3: raising rates faster than any Fed chair in history, and
Speaker 3: that's because of the president and money expansion that's never
Speaker 3: happened before at this level. Like we talk about metrics
Speaker 3: like eighty percent of all the dollars ever created right
Speaker 3: in the last five years. It's probably worse than that.
Speaker 3: I've been and saying that for three years. So it's
Speaker 3: probably worse in some ways than just that. But that's
Speaker 3: a that's something to soak in and that's shocking. So
Speaker 3: I think, how when you raise rates, you contract the
Speaker 3: money supply, and again there's a lot of dollars that
Speaker 3: get forwarded that way. So there's a strong it's a
Speaker 3: theory of a strong dollar, which you know, if it's
Speaker 3: not backed by anything, how is it strong. But that's
Speaker 3: just the way it works. Trump's philosophy, as we've seen.
Speaker 3: I don't know if where you can label it a philosophy.
Speaker 3: It's more like.
Speaker 4: An operation, whereas we're going to have we're gonna have
Speaker 4: these tariff threats, and we're going to put one hundred
Speaker 4: percent tariffs on countries that won't use the dollar if
Speaker 4: they're bricks nation, or if they create a competing currency
Speaker 4: or whatever.
Speaker 2: And it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 5: But we have the tariff threat, which created a whole
Speaker 5: host of black swan issues and things that ripple across
Speaker 5: the markets with imports and exports and other things like that.
Speaker 5: But he wants low interest rates traves.
Speaker 3: He wants he wants to get those rates down as
Speaker 3: low as possible, maybe to zero, like a Bank of
Speaker 3: Japan situation, where we're just just there's the money, printer
Speaker 3: goes burn.
Speaker 2: That's what he wants.
Speaker 3: And you know, if you if you zoom out, I
Speaker 3: mean this is probably a philosophical, you know, theoretical debate.
Speaker 2: But can you make the money go? Yeah, if you're
Speaker 2: thinking about it.
Speaker 3: Theoretically, we know that the technocracy wants a central bank
Speaker 3: digital currency. And I'm kind of skipping over traditional finance
Speaker 3: to talk about ethereal conspiracy, which is probably smarter because
Speaker 3: that's where we are.
Speaker 2: It's the timeline of the run.
Speaker 3: We know that the stable coins are as I've always said,
Speaker 3: the dollar is.
Speaker 2: Not going to zero, it's going to digital.
Speaker 3: So it looks to me like the current economic order
Speaker 3: that we grew up with everything since brett On Woods
Speaker 3: and the Nixon Shock of seventy one. In this Fiat experience,
Speaker 3: it looks like they're just going to go and do
Speaker 3: a controlled demolition in some way, like that's the that's
Speaker 3: the plan, and like just run up because we're already
Speaker 3: at you know, run. The debt is almost one hundred
Speaker 3: and thirty percent like that to GDP, so gross domestic product.
Speaker 3: I mean, this hasn't happened since World War Two, and
Speaker 3: so this is unsustainable. Most economists agree on that. It's
Speaker 3: about one hundred and thirty percent. We're reaching that, and
Speaker 3: that's a tipping point. So there has to be something
Speaker 3: has to happen. As a matter of fact, it's really
Speaker 3: I've been using AI not as a crutch, but actually
Speaker 3: just versing with it and asking you questions about this
Speaker 3: particular thing. And I'm like, how does if all fiat
Speaker 3: currencies go to zero throughout history and the dollar is
Speaker 3: no different, how does the dollar remain and retain any
Speaker 3: sort of purchasing power in you know, losing the world's
Speaker 3: currency and dedollarization. I put all these factors in and
Speaker 3: the AI actually said my question was very astute. It
Speaker 3: was like it was a very interesting question, and it
Speaker 3: tells it started listing all the ways that it would
Speaker 3: retain a value after you know, so much money printing
Speaker 3: and inflation, and since all currencies go to zero, and
Speaker 3: it's its conclusion was going through stable coins, going into
Speaker 3: state and then being backed by something else like it
Speaker 3: had to in every conclusion through the AI was that
Speaker 3: it had to be a reset. Yeah, there had to
Speaker 3: be a reset of the monetary system. So there's no
Speaker 3: there's no way that, like you, because of the sheer
Speaker 3: amount of dollars that have been created and the fact
Speaker 3: that the world is moving away from this city system
Speaker 3: in de dollarizing, with the said of the United States
Speaker 3: together has no choice have to come up with a
Speaker 3: different way to back the dollar.
Speaker 2: It just can't be.
Speaker 3: Done anymore through sheer money velocity. So I think that
Speaker 3: the stable coin issue is very interesting to watch. We
Speaker 3: just had the Genius Act. It's being passed and I believe,
Speaker 3: you know, through things like a tether and other things
Speaker 3: that you know, we have the stabilization of the dollar
Speaker 3: through digital and blockchain, and there's a merger there that
Speaker 3: I believe it's very interesting. It's going to have to
Speaker 3: happen in order for the dollar to be to stop
Speaker 3: losing such massive market share, and if the world wants access,
Speaker 3: it's going to have to go through stable coin.
Speaker 2: It's a really interesting thing.
Speaker 1: One thing that I've all I've been curious about since
Speaker 1: they started floating stable coins. They say, well, it's stable
Speaker 1: because it's tied to an asset like the US dollar,
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, the US dollar isn't tied to anything, though,
Speaker 1: how can how does removing it one level suddenly make
Speaker 1: it stabilized? It just seems as though they're saying it
Speaker 1: is this way, and you know it's this way because
Speaker 1: we say so, and I'm so curious as to how
Speaker 1: they get to that logic. Yeah, the stable coin is
Speaker 1: stable because it's tied to the US dollar, which is
Speaker 1: completely unstable in fiat, and it just doesn't make any
Speaker 1: sense to me. And I think I think.
Speaker 2: You an improved dollar.
Speaker 3: It's likely you've ever seen those the pr rollouts for
Speaker 3: somebody that had a you know, they're trying to redo
Speaker 3: their image.
Speaker 2: But it's the new, new and improved.
Speaker 3: That's that's what this it's and and of course it's
Speaker 3: not it's not just it's not improved. It's digitized, it's tokenized,
Speaker 3: its block chain, and it's it's a in Remember how
Speaker 3: Zignu Brazinski would talk about an in run around sovereignty.
Speaker 3: You know, with the technocracy, this is an inrun around
Speaker 3: the same thing oversight, because you're having this public private
Speaker 3: partnership where you know, you get you get CBDC, just
Speaker 3: in a different form. And that's what I think we're
Speaker 3: watching with the stable coins. There's a lot of open
Speaker 3: questions there and I think we're still still seeing what the.
Speaker 2: End result is going to be.
Speaker 3: But that seems to me the only way that they
Speaker 3: continue to prop up the dollars through the stable coin system,
Speaker 3: and they're.
Speaker 2: Going to have to figure out what they're going to
Speaker 2: back it by.
Speaker 3: Even that even the AI running simulations was showing me
Speaker 3: that a gold back stable coin at a pitcoin based dollar,
Speaker 3: it has to be based on energy in some way,
Speaker 3: because we lost And if you notice too, Travis, what's
Speaker 3: interesting that these financial networks they don't even get into,
Speaker 3: which is epical events like losing the petro dollar last year.
Speaker 2: Talking to your dad, I was like, fifty years we
Speaker 2: just lost it.
Speaker 3: And there wasn't anything like, oh, let's let's do it
Speaker 3: this way, or here's here's something we can trade for.
Speaker 3: We just let it lapse. And I thought, well, that's interesting.
Speaker 3: It's because they're resetting it. They're resetting the table. They're
Speaker 3: going to go away from the energy based petro dollar
Speaker 3: to and of course we had you can argue that
Speaker 3: gold was energy as well. Going from gold to possibly
Speaker 3: bitcoin something like that, they're going to use it. It
Speaker 3: has to have be backed by something, and there's a
Speaker 3: lot of open questions on what that's going to be.
Speaker 3: But the current dollar form, you know, there's the philosophy
Speaker 3: between you know, your original question, between POWL and whatever
Speaker 3: the trump represents. It's like the the acceleration, like pressing
Speaker 3: the gas, like this's just go ahead and get this
Speaker 3: thing on the road, and there'll be golden parachutes and
Speaker 3: there will be you know, a semblance of everything's okay
Speaker 3: for a little while, but that will again, it will
Speaker 3: end in debt. It will end in bankruptcies. It will
Speaker 3: end in over leverage, it will end in you know,
Speaker 3: the A lot of times when there's just massive liquidity,
Speaker 3: the wrong things get tension. That's what happens in a
Speaker 3: fiart world, and things that shouldn't exist will exist, and
Speaker 3: those things will again the will come to an end because.
Speaker 2: Of just physics. It just happens.
Speaker 3: So it'll be interesting to see who who wins this battle.
Speaker 3: I think we know what's going to happen. I think
Speaker 3: the money printer is going to go burway. I think
Speaker 3: they're going to do that, regardless if it's the Trump
Speaker 3: administration or if it's we're going to do it, and
Speaker 3: whoever power represents or what faction of that. That dollar
Speaker 3: system is old world, it's old Breton Woods, it's old,
Speaker 3: and they're gonna I think the technocracy, who are battling
Speaker 3: and buying for control, wants to go ahead and again
Speaker 3: press the accelerator and let's let's get this thing to
Speaker 3: the next level.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we know that for a fact. Even if we
Speaker 1: take these yo about the words that they're trying to
Speaker 1: do something positive for the American people, for people in general,
Speaker 1: that they are largely insulated from the consequences by the
Speaker 1: sheer amount of wealth they possess. Like even if the
Speaker 1: dollar goes to zero, they're so diversified into other options
Speaker 1: that it's not really going to affect them. They'll still
Speaker 1: be massively wealthy, so they don't have to really be
Speaker 1: concerned with, well, if something goes wrong and we collapse
Speaker 1: the markets, you know that's going to suck for some people,
Speaker 1: not for us. So even if we take them at
Speaker 1: the word of saying we're trying to do the right thing,
Speaker 1: it's when you don't have any stakes in anything, it
Speaker 1: makes it very easy not to care where you As
Speaker 1: you said, they can just slam their foot on the
Speaker 1: accelerator and say we're going to take it to the
Speaker 1: next level. Whatever the consequences are, it's fine since they're
Speaker 1: not going to affect me. But realistically we know that's
Speaker 1: not even the case. They're not concerned with doing the
Speaker 1: right thing or helping the people of America or other
Speaker 1: countries where they're going to implement this. This is about removing,
Speaker 1: you know, stratifying wealth even further consolidating it more into
Speaker 1: their own hands. And of course with things like stable
Speaker 1: coin and cbdc's when it goes fully digital. As we've
Speaker 1: talked about, that means they're fully able to just shut
Speaker 1: you off at the source, say nope, you don't get
Speaker 1: to play in our economy anymore. You said something naughty online.
Speaker 1: And we see this here, got this article from zero
Speaker 1: Edge as Western Union joined stable coin, Race and I's
Speaker 1: crypto partnerships. That's what the CEO is saying. So these
Speaker 1: things are being adopted, they're going to come into use.
Speaker 1: You don't have players like Western Union or really you know,
Speaker 1: any of company like this or even other companies. We
Speaker 1: had someone say in chat the other day that I
Speaker 1: believe it was a grocery store chain was implementing, you know,
Speaker 1: the ability to take stable coins and things like that.
Speaker 1: These companies aren't going to get on the band wagon
Speaker 1: unless they're sure it's coming down the pipeline. They're not
Speaker 1: going to start investing in infrastructure unless they believe it's
Speaker 1: really happening. So that's a bell weather this this sort
Speaker 1: of thing. It's not just a oh, this could happen.
Speaker 1: Is that this is happening. The stable coin is coming
Speaker 1: one way or the other. And Trump is at the
Speaker 1: forefront of this, the Genius Act. You know, he talked
Speaker 1: all about, and you're like, no, we're not going to
Speaker 1: have CBDC. We're gonna block it by executive order, and
Speaker 1: then he goes and signs this, which completely overwrites what
Speaker 1: he said. And it's just this is a tremendous blow
Speaker 1: to you know, your own personal ability to gather wealth
Speaker 1: and potentially prepare for future generations. Like you want to
Speaker 1: be able to pass something down to your children, but
Speaker 1: this will make that completely and utterly impossible, especially if
Speaker 1: they implement a system like in China where you know,
Speaker 1: money has an expiration date. You don't get to keep
Speaker 1: it if you don't spend it. You know, eventually they
Speaker 1: just come in and say, no, that's expired. You didn't
Speaker 1: put it into the economy, and therefore it's not valid anymore.
Speaker 1: That is a complete and utter attack on your ability
Speaker 1: to store wealth, to be able to save and prepare.
Speaker 1: And the Genius Act is just it's a you know,
Speaker 1: we've talked about this for so many years and for
Speaker 1: you know, you and my dad have been talking about
Speaker 1: the CBDCs and how they were on the horizon, and
Speaker 1: it seemed like they were just kind of holding position
Speaker 1: for a while. They were sitting there they talked about
Speaker 1: wanting it, but now this is, you know, full speed ahead,
Speaker 1: and it's truly incredible to see how quickly they are
Speaker 1: moving forward at this point, and it seems likely.
Speaker 2: I think this is the stark difference. You're right, the
Speaker 2: language has changed.
Speaker 3: The outcome will be the same, and it may be
Speaker 3: worse if it's run this way because of the I mean,
Speaker 3: even though the Federal Reserve is not federal and it's
Speaker 3: not a reserve, it's centralized in a way that has
Speaker 3: some semblance of oversight. I mean, I know it's still
Speaker 3: the Federal Reserve, it's the creature from Jackal Island. But
Speaker 3: you're talking about even moving further babatized into these stable coins,
Speaker 3: and there could it could be great in one end
Speaker 3: where you have, like you just mentioned, you think about
Speaker 3: all those retailers out there that don't have to pay
Speaker 3: credit card fees. If you can go direct with your
Speaker 3: stable coin, if you can just hit you know, if
Speaker 3: you can especially through the Internet, if you can just
Speaker 3: blockchain to blockchain, those are theo's gonna shrink those credit
Speaker 3: card fees. People don't realize how much retailers the scam
Speaker 3: of credit card fees is it's generational. I mean they've
Speaker 3: made they're skimming off of everybody's energy and everybody's creativity
Speaker 3: and everybody's risk for nothing. I mean they're just transactionally
Speaker 3: making It's basically what I make on gold and silver
Speaker 3: without ever having any investment anywhere. And that's everybody's transaction.
Speaker 3: That's that's evil genius, really evil genius. Whoever came up
Speaker 3: with that that that's even sustainable. But that's what they do.
Speaker 3: But stable coins, so in theory solve that. And then
Speaker 3: the same thing with you know, bitcoin and other things.
Speaker 3: They cryptocurrencies do better to solve that at least the
Speaker 3: giant fees that you're paying the credit card.
Speaker 2: Companies, so that on that and that's good.
Speaker 3: But there's all there's there's the technocracy and how they
Speaker 3: implement it and the lack of even the semblance of
Speaker 3: oversight when it comes to that. You're absolutely right, that's
Speaker 3: the darkness. That is the risk. And we know how
Speaker 3: these people think. We know what you know as far
Speaker 3: as centralization and control. You know, if I had long
Speaker 3: wondered what took Larry Fink Blackrock, why he pivoted and
Speaker 3: said he went from bitcoin is a is a measurement
Speaker 3: of money laundering, its metric of money laundering. And he
Speaker 3: went from that to Bitcoin's going to go to seven
Speaker 3: hundred thousand, and we're totally backing it, and here's our ETF.
Speaker 3: And I thought that's a weird pivot. Well, if you
Speaker 3: look at the stable coin world and how it would work,
Speaker 3: coin plays a major role, and it plays a major
Speaker 3: role in backing the value of these things. And because
Speaker 3: of bitcoin's limited supply, so and that's kind of a
Speaker 3: neutral thing that's either good nor bad. It just means
Speaker 3: it backs that it backs that play in the sense
Speaker 3: that you could get in and out and you could
Speaker 3: back it by having this limited supply of things for
Speaker 3: a store of value, kind of like digital gold. So
Speaker 3: it's something it's really interesting to watch as we see
Speaker 3: the world dedollarizing. That trink continues. I saw a story today,
Speaker 3: Travis that precious metals sales from Russia to China are
Speaker 3: up eighty percent this year. So, like, China's just importing
Speaker 3: more and more, even though it's the largest gold producer
Speaker 3: in the world, it's importing from its it's ordering from Russia,
Speaker 3: who's got massive natural resources gold and silver, and the
Speaker 3: rest silver put is on Russia's strategic reserve asset list.
Speaker 3: We're nearing like fourteen year eyes on silver. So there's
Speaker 3: a lot of interesting stuff happening right now with commodities
Speaker 3: being at central Bank buying a sovereign wealth fund, buying
Speaker 3: of gold, and things happening with bitcoin as well. So
Speaker 3: the it's all converging together in the same time that
Speaker 3: we're going to have the argument about Powell and Trump
Speaker 3: and what's best.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, the dollarization is
Speaker 2: still happening. The surprise the dark horse here maybe the
Speaker 2: stable coins.
Speaker 3: And I've always said the dollars not going to zero,
Speaker 3: it's going to digital, and it's going to digitizing right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's happening live before our eyes. It's again, it's
Speaker 1: crazy for me to see because this is something I've
Speaker 1: kind of grown up with. Yeah, not necessarily grown up,
Speaker 1: but it's been something that's been happening on the periphery.
Speaker 1: And you'll in governmental scale things really take so long
Speaker 1: to manifest that you kind of forget they were ever
Speaker 1: happening in the first place, and it just kind of
Speaker 1: shows up one day. But this is something that went
Speaker 1: from yeah, it's happening to. It's here and it's going
Speaker 1: to happen, and it's truly incredible to see the speed
Speaker 1: with which this is developing. We've got some comments here.
Speaker 1: Dustin d Helm can't wait for Tony to open the
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Speaker 1: to buy a silver round through a drive through window.
Speaker 2: Let me probably in the next thirty days or so.
Speaker 2: We're working on it.
Speaker 3: But Wise Wolf leased an old branch bank in Dennison
Speaker 3: on Main Street and it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 2: It's it's not very large, but the tube still works.
Speaker 3: The drive through window is still there, like you got
Speaker 3: the tray where you open it up and people can
Speaker 3: go through. So we'll have all that. So I'll be
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Speaker 1: tyrants seventeen seventy six. As America thrives on debt and usury.
Speaker 1: It's a wicked system. Yeah, it's It's funny. My dad
Speaker 1: has talked about how, you know, when he was young,
Speaker 1: you know, credit card the amount of interest they would
Speaker 1: charge you. You know, it's much much smaller. And now
Speaker 1: that we've reached a point where you can get thirty
Speaker 1: percent interest on credit cards, you can have these exorbitant
Speaker 1: rates that you're never able to pay off. It's something
Speaker 1: that you would hear the mafia doing. You know, you
Speaker 1: get in debt with them and they put an interest
Speaker 1: rate on there that makes it impossible, and so you
Speaker 1: are their man for the rest of your life or
Speaker 1: else they're gonna come up and they're gonna break your legs.
Speaker 1: None that credit card companies won't break your legs, but
Speaker 1: they're they'll ruin your credit score, which is what again,
Speaker 1: as he points out, the American economy runs on. If
Speaker 1: you don't have a decent credit score, you can't really
Speaker 1: buy anything of substance. You're not gonna be able to
Speaker 1: get a house or a car unless you can flat
Speaker 1: out pay cash for them, in which case you know
Speaker 1: you're probably doing so well, yeah, if you can afford
Speaker 1: to do that, you know, you don't have to worry
Speaker 1: about anything else. Really, like, if you've got that kind
Speaker 1: of liquid cash, not much as a problem for you
Speaker 1: as a general rule. But for the average American, these
Speaker 1: systems are incredibly predatory. You're forced to get a credit card,
Speaker 1: and they know how easy it is to get people
Speaker 1: to overspend with them, to spend beyond your means. And
Speaker 1: so many Americans are just in massive amounts of debt,
Speaker 1: just debt that see that's very unlikely they'll ever pay off,
Speaker 1: and they'll always be behind this just continual eight ball.
Speaker 1: It is a truly predatory system. It is based on
Speaker 1: the fact they know you'll overspend with it. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna truly keep track of it. You're gonna open more
Speaker 1: and more lines of credit. It's the American system is
Speaker 1: broken in so many different ways. Nights of the Storm says,
Speaker 1: people are talking about the Genius Act, but not about
Speaker 1: the prior Clarity Act. The Clarity Act is how you know.
Speaker 1: The Genius Act is about CBDC. The Clarity Act was
Speaker 1: rushed through just before the Genius and sets up the authority.
Speaker 1: Genius is the framework together they indicate an oncoming CBDC. Also,
Speaker 1: the US is working on retail CBDC over wholesale. That's
Speaker 1: huge retails what you and I use, while wholesale is
Speaker 1: bank to bank transactions. Look up Project Hamilton. That's the
Speaker 1: retail CBDC we are working on right now. I've actually
Speaker 1: got an article here from Scott Bessent. Well, it's about
Speaker 1: Scott Bessant says, we will center financial regulation on Main Street,
Speaker 1: not Wall Street. They know that. You know, Wall Street
Speaker 1: and the government are kind of hand in hand. Anyway,
Speaker 1: they're going to go along with you know, whatever happens.
Speaker 1: There are two p's in the same pod. They're going
Speaker 1: to come after Main Street. They're going to target you
Speaker 1: and me. They're going to, as I said, put these
Speaker 1: stable coins the ability to use them in at the
Speaker 1: grocery store. So that, as I said, when the infrastructure
Speaker 1: starts getting built, that's when you know it's serious. Companies
Speaker 1: don't buy into something unless they know it's coming. And
Speaker 1: it is incredibly anytime the government says we're.
Speaker 2: Going to fox everybody all these stable coins.
Speaker 3: By the way, Travis, it makes the big corporations.
Speaker 1: Oh no, go on, please.
Speaker 3: I was just saying that it makes all these companies lenders,
Speaker 3: it makes them banks like it bypasses traditional, but it
Speaker 3: makes everything a lending.
Speaker 2: You're just talking about how.
Speaker 3: Even like Walmart or any of these big retailers, they
Speaker 3: issue their own coin, their own stable coin back you know,
Speaker 3: of the off the backbone and whatever coin that could
Speaker 3: be tether, could be anything, and they create this new
Speaker 3: system where they can lend you out, you can get
Speaker 3: into debt with anyone, and then think about that, like
Speaker 3: how that would be. So I mean, in some ways
Speaker 3: it's good to be decentralized, but then you're just talking
Speaker 3: about every avenue to expand personal debt. It is, it is, uh,
Speaker 3: it is interesting and that you know, I think I
Speaker 3: noticed there's a change in the economy right now, just
Speaker 3: off my business and watching, you know, talking to people
Speaker 3: and knowing what's going on things of the wolf time
Speaker 3: where the prices of precious metals are going up and
Speaker 3: up and up, and the people buying from me is
Speaker 3: decreasing because the big people are buying. I just that's
Speaker 3: that's what I want to communicate and telegraph everybody, is
Speaker 3: that institutions are buying all these metals and the average
Speaker 3: person is like if they can't afford a certain amount,
Speaker 3: they're not. They're just you can't make these big moves
Speaker 3: they were and if you already have them, you have them.
Speaker 2: So that's that's a metric. I think of the economic situation.
Speaker 2: It's really interesting, and they're definitely they're definitely telegraphing you something,
Speaker 2: and they're saying something about, you know, the purchases from
Speaker 2: these big, big players, and then what's happening to every
Speaker 2: day folks. It's hard.
Speaker 3: The economy is hard for people. I don't care what
Speaker 3: spectrum you're on right now, it's tough. The prices are
Speaker 3: increasing and the uncertainty of liquidity.
Speaker 2: I totally get that.
Speaker 3: And that's that's what we built Wolf Packed for, is
Speaker 3: the affordability of getting out of FIAT and actually getting
Speaker 3: real value for it without having to do very much
Speaker 3: and you know, not having to pay attention to it.
Speaker 2: Just set it and forget it. And we have that
Speaker 2: set up for people.
Speaker 3: And I think that's going to be more important than
Speaker 3: ever as the dollar continues to be reset and it's
Speaker 3: going to continue to lose some purchasing power along the
Speaker 3: way and to this stable coin reality.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a good comment here from whack jaw.
Speaker 1: He says, I have no idea of the difference between
Speaker 1: what a stable coin is and CBDC is from what
Speaker 1: I understand. You know, central bank digital currency would be
Speaker 1: the primary issue from the central bank, like the FED
Speaker 1: would say, this is the new standard of currency for
Speaker 1: the United States, you know, whatever they choose to call it,
Speaker 1: whereas a stable coin is something that you know, different
Speaker 1: companies can mint their own version of it, and you
Speaker 1: know this is based off whatever assets we hold here
Speaker 1: or there, or that's my understanding of it. I could
Speaker 1: be wrong, Tony. Would you be able to give a
Speaker 1: more in depth explanation.
Speaker 3: No, I think your synopsis is correct. I mean the
Speaker 3: central bank digital currency, like we were saying earlier. You know,
Speaker 3: even though it's not a lot of oversight and it
Speaker 3: is a private banking consortium, a CBDC is at least
Speaker 3: right there, it's centralized. It's you know, you're going to
Speaker 3: see a Jerome Pal or whatever. But a stable coin
Speaker 3: system is the central well, we centralized in a way,
Speaker 3: but public private partnerships, right, this is the technocracy, this
Speaker 3: is the this is the way that the system would
Speaker 3: work on that. Because that's the difference between you know,
Speaker 3: like a Kamala Harris won and the Trump woant. He's
Speaker 3: still getting centralized blockchain technology. Matter of fact, when Trump
Speaker 3: came in and one of the first things he did
Speaker 3: he signed the anti dunk, the Executive Order against central
Speaker 3: bank digital currency, and then in his next breath he says,
Speaker 3: now we're going to do these stable coins, and the
Speaker 3: stable coins are going to be great. You see, it's
Speaker 3: that they're going to use that. This is the directions going.
Speaker 3: And still I'm still figuring it out. I'm you know,
Speaker 3: this is always a student, never a master of any
Speaker 3: of this stuff, because you use too many moving parts
Speaker 3: and you have somebody that claims, you know, they're they're delusional.
Speaker 2: There's too many things to try to understand.
Speaker 3: But I do the more than I sit in this
Speaker 3: and meditate on it and think about it. That would
Speaker 3: be the way to go. And you use the stable
Speaker 3: coins as far as the controller. They want to get
Speaker 3: control of that in real time expansion and contraction and
Speaker 3: the money supply of that blockchain system. So the difference
Speaker 3: between a CBDC and a stable coin, whatever you want
Speaker 3: to call it, it won't be a CBDC, it'll be
Speaker 3: something else. Is that the CBDC would.
Speaker 2: Have more overside. That's it. I mean, that's it.
Speaker 3: And and that's limited oversight, but they would still have
Speaker 3: some oversight. And and I think the stable point are
Speaker 3: more seductive because it says, oh, well, this is just
Speaker 3: the financial markets. This isn't you know, Yeah, this isn't
Speaker 3: just the FED thing, this isn't the FED coin.
Speaker 2: This is something different. This is my dollar, you know.
Speaker 3: And they it's I think that's psychologically going to be
Speaker 3: more palpable. And then we'll see, you know that I
Speaker 3: have all these questions about what we did with the
Speaker 3: petro doll and everything else, and it looks like we're
Speaker 3: just we've just been setting the stage for stable coin.
Speaker 3: Remember Scott Best and he's got ties to to tether
Speaker 3: and other things. Guys back in the previous we're working
Speaker 3: on all this stuff. They've been working on stable coins
Speaker 3: for a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And again, government loves deniability anytime they can kind
Speaker 1: of shift blame into other areas, whether it's one avenue
Speaker 1: of government shifting it onto a different bureaucracy, or whether
Speaker 1: it's government saying it's not us, it's these big corporations.
Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about that. Look, it's not
Speaker 1: a CBDC, it's Walmart's stable coin, or it's you know
Speaker 1: whatever in certain Amazon stable coin. We all know how
Speaker 1: these corporations play so nicely with the government and basically
Speaker 1: do whatever they want at a whim. They're all in
Speaker 1: bed together, so it's effectively the same thing. And of
Speaker 1: course it's still digital and can be turned off instantaneously
Speaker 1: if the government comes in and says, hey, this individual
Speaker 1: over here that's holding a massive amount of your stable coin.
Speaker 1: We don't like them, we don't like what they're posting,
Speaker 1: we don't like what they're saying. We don't like what
Speaker 1: they're doing. Turn off their account, sees that, drop it
Speaker 1: to zero, remove it. They're gonna do it. They're not
Speaker 1: going to say, oh, I don't think so, mister government.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm going to do that. That sounds
Speaker 1: like it's a violation of this and an infringement of that.
Speaker 1: They're just going to go, sir, yes, sir, and your
Speaker 1: stable coin will vanish. It'll be redistributed or put into
Speaker 1: a government holding account somewhere, because that's how these people operate.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right.
Speaker 1: We've got some more comments and I know we're a
Speaker 1: little bit over time, but I like to get through
Speaker 1: them if you're okay with staying for just a bit longer.
Speaker 1: Jerry al Otalo says, you got a problem with stable coin,
Speaker 1: You got something against stability. Yeah, that's how they are.
Speaker 1: It's stable, it's good, it's.
Speaker 2: Great right there, and there's a tether and it's tethered.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the patriot age. What are you anti patriotic?
Speaker 2: It's a big beautiful bill, Dustin d. Hell, Why don't
Speaker 2: you like big beautiful things?
Speaker 1: Exactly? They always pull that, they call it something that
Speaker 1: it isn't the exact inverse of it. Dustin D. Helms
Speaker 1: as CBDC by the end of the year. Can you
Speaker 1: ask Tony how far out he thinks we are from CBDCs.
Speaker 1: So he thinks it's by the end of the year
Speaker 1: and wants your opinion on if you think it'll happen
Speaker 1: by then.
Speaker 3: I think it's more like a couple three years of implementation.
Speaker 3: I mean, these things move slowly, and it has to
Speaker 3: because you're thinking that that's behemoth. It has to get redirected.
Speaker 3: So I think it's just a I think there's a
Speaker 3: series of events where you'll have a quickening and then
Speaker 3: it'll be a little bit of a little bit of
Speaker 3: cooling off, and then they'll have another portion.
Speaker 2: We'll see that the systems will.
Speaker 3: Start to absorb this new technology, especially after the Genius Act.
Speaker 3: I think this is going to be a moment where
Speaker 3: we just start seeing a lot of things open up.
Speaker 2: The end of the year is probably a little soon,
Speaker 2: but who knows. Who knows anymore.
Speaker 3: They definitely they surprised me with their whatever timeline they're
Speaker 3: on or whatever simulation they're running. I was surprised when
Speaker 3: we lost the petro dollar and did nothing about it,
Speaker 3: So now I'm starting to see why we did it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the one thing I always have to consider is
Speaker 1: they do need to have physical, tangible infrastructure in place
Speaker 1: for any of these plans. So that's always something to
Speaker 1: look at when assessing timelines. How quickly can they get
Speaker 1: the infrastructure in place to utilize these things and then
Speaker 1: get people to adopt them. So that's going to be
Speaker 1: like getting Grandma onto stable coin is going to take
Speaker 1: a little bit of doing, So you got to consider
Speaker 1: the real world applications. So look at nineteen eighty all
Speaker 1: credit card companies are loan sharking people. Yeah, every single
Speaker 1: one of them is charging interest rates. That again would
Speaker 1: have made the mafia blush. Back in the day. They
Speaker 1: would have been like, we can do that out of people.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, that's evil, How could we That's that's unconscionable.
Speaker 3: Don't fragm rations will always make the mob. Yeah, because
Speaker 3: you look at what happened to Las Vegas. It used
Speaker 3: to being run by the mob. You probably was talking
Speaker 3: to my friend Sam Tripoli yesterday. I came out to
Speaker 3: California to do tenfoil hat and we just we talked
Speaker 3: about that, like, you know, it.
Speaker 2: Used to be able to go to Vegas.
Speaker 3: You you lose a thousand dollars, but you get a
Speaker 3: five dollars steak, and now everything's I think one hundreds
Speaker 3: of and there's no incentive, like it's not cheap or
Speaker 3: you know, you still get it's robbed every which way
Speaker 3: because it's run by I mean, the corporations will get you,
Speaker 3: you know, at least the at least the mob will
Speaker 3: throw you a bone.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The corporations are just there to maximize profit on
Speaker 1: every single avenue, no matter what it is. They'll rob
Speaker 1: you blind. Don't frag me bro. All economies are subject
Speaker 1: to the central bank cartel that is a debt usury
Speaker 1: based monetary policy within their fractionalized banking aka quantitative easing
Speaker 1: beast system. And Guard Goldsmith's good to see you. Guard
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Speaker 1: Liberty Conspiracy says if people knew more about Project Seater
Speaker 1: and CBDC manipulation be a stable coin equivalent, they'd be
Speaker 1: buying more precious metals every day.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's another thing is so many people just you know,
Speaker 1: they hear CBDC, they hear stable coin, and again they
Speaker 1: just tune ounce like I don't care about that, I
Speaker 1: don't want to whatever that is doesn't matter to me.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: This type of news is something that, as a general rule,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like when you read it, it's dull.
Speaker 1: It has real gigantic impacts, and it causes massive chaos
Speaker 1: when something goes wrong with it, but it's generally very
Speaker 1: dry and an interesting to read. It's like, oh, the
Speaker 1: market swung up a point here, it's swung down a
Speaker 1: point there, this is going up, that's going down. It's
Speaker 1: not a fun or really interesting read, but it has
Speaker 1: massive impact. So getting people to actually learn about it
Speaker 1: is very, very difficult, even for me. Radiant's like, oh wow,
Speaker 1: you know one point here, two points there, what does
Speaker 1: that really mean? What does it matter? But it has
Speaker 1: a gigantic real world impact, especially with the gene Act
Speaker 1: coming through. Wally Wallrace, I'll tell you what. I'm working
Speaker 1: sixty hours a week right now, just trying to keep
Speaker 1: vehicles running, to keep working. Getting ridiculous out here in
Speaker 1: the real world. All of my insurance is doubled this year.
Speaker 1: I can barely afford to keep my construction company open.
Speaker 1: Everything is getting more and more expensive, and it's getting
Speaker 1: more expensive rapidly. And sorry to hear that's going on
Speaker 1: with your business, Wally, I hope things get better for you. Well,
Speaker 1: we're twelve minutes over time. I really appreciate you staying Tony,
Speaker 1: And of course you have America Unplugged. Are you able
Speaker 1: to do that show today? Are you going to be
Speaker 1: live after this?
Speaker 2: I'll be live.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to be doing the ar and radio
Speaker 3: transmission will be over the America unplug channel and rumble
Speaker 3: and on my ex at Tony Arderburn So I join us.
Speaker 1: Fantastic and of course.
Speaker 2: Talk precious metals and parapolitics and whatever else is on
Speaker 2: my mind.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and of course we will be rating Tony's rumble stream,
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Speaker 1: you again for joining us, Tony, and thank you for
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Speaker 1: So thank you, Tony, really do appreciate it. Hope you
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Speaker 2: To thank you, Travis, appreciate you.
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