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<v Speaker 1>Lily Craven my guest for the evening. You know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>where you can find her at Lily Craven. Links to

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<v Speaker 1>all of our social media are in the episode description.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure you support the creators that come on this show,

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise they stop coming on the show. Lily, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>real pleasure to have you on tonight. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>having me. We had some fun discussion off camera. But

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<v Speaker 1>let me start with let me start with the basic,

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<v Speaker 1>boring question, just so I can kind of establish a

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<v Speaker 1>baseline of your career. How did you initially get into

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<v Speaker 1>the adult entertainment industry in whatever form it was, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it was dancing first, you went right into shooting porn,

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<v Speaker 1>you did camming, you were swinging. What is your entrance

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<v Speaker 1>from a vanilla life into this industry?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I have a good one. You know, most of

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<v Speaker 2>us have a quite fascinating story on how we got

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<v Speaker 2>into it. But I started off selling out of my

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<v Speaker 2>Facebook inbox, and I have I still run a group.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called camp Morning Wood and it's our way. We

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<v Speaker 2>only use camping lingo and you can buy content from

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<v Speaker 2>the counselors in the inbox. So I did that, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I caught a bam for three months and I

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<v Speaker 2>freaked out. I was like, oh my god, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what do I do? What do I do? And I

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<v Speaker 2>had a friend, Thank you, tyson. My friend said, have

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<v Speaker 2>you ever heard of chatterbait? And I was like no.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, it's webcam modeling. I'm like, no, I've never

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<v Speaker 2>heard of it. So he was like, here, let me

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<v Speaker 2>show you. And I was like, oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 2>could do that. So I started on chatter bait and

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say why. So anyways, the reason I got

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<v Speaker 2>into all this was because I had a cheating next

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<v Speaker 2>husband and I wanted revenge. So I ended up, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>packing my shit up, going to Hollywood for the Why

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<v Speaker 2>Not Summit and I sat in the smoking section where

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<v Speaker 2>everyone sits and they're smoking something or another, and I

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<v Speaker 2>started chatting and I met like Will Ryder and Katie

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<v Speaker 2>Morgan and Evan Stone and they were all out there,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's how I got my foot in the door.

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<v Speaker 1>So personal, keep anything personal you'd like to keep personal.

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<v Speaker 1>But I got to dig into this a little bit. No,

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<v Speaker 1>please go ahead. It was was it a one time

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<v Speaker 1>cheating event, was it a continuous thing? Was it a

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<v Speaker 1>cold Play concert where he got caught with his HR person.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've seen that news story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh i've seen it. No, did you know? Not

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<v Speaker 2>off topic?

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, you can get off topic all you want,

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<v Speaker 3>please do. So what happened with that story with the CEO?

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<v Speaker 3>It was cold Play that was contacted by the wife

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<v Speaker 3>that she found out that they were going to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, there's a whole other layer to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so they said, yeah, the wife set it up. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>So people are hating on Coldplay, but they're like after

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<v Speaker 2>she described everything and said they had been married for

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five thirty years and that they know this is

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<v Speaker 2>going she knows this is going on, and that they're

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be at the concert, and so that was

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<v Speaker 2>like set up deliberately.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see his wife too? She was gorgeous. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>total not you. No, there was an old Bill Maher joke.

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<v Speaker 1>There's an old Bill Moore joke and apologies it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little crass, but it was something about it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of pussy you're getting. It's not as good

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<v Speaker 1>as new pussy, is what he always used to say.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's you know, I've been in a committed, non

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<v Speaker 1>cheating relationship for about nineteen years. I think it is

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<v Speaker 1>for you. I think I said a lesser number last time,

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<v Speaker 1>and my wife was like, hey, fuck, oh you need

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<v Speaker 1>to buddy. Yeah, when were you into this thing? But

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, uh no, I just I personally go like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's too much risk, get in trouble, and I like

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<v Speaker 1>my wife, you know, yeah, So can I ask you?

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<v Speaker 1>And this is this is you know?

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<v Speaker 2>Please?

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<v Speaker 1>Your situation was it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think? I don't know if you know the

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<v Speaker 1>details on his side of it, but your situation was

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<v Speaker 1>it just you had been together a long time? Was

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<v Speaker 1>it something fell out of the marriage a little bit? Again?

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<v Speaker 2>We were totally just I think we were two years

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<v Speaker 2>into it and I was so into him. He was

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<v Speaker 2>like my everything. He was such a good husband. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I was absolutely blindsided. And then some woman contacts me

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<v Speaker 2>and said that they had been engaged for a year

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<v Speaker 2>and they had an apartment together and that they it

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<v Speaker 2>just goes on and on. Wow, Like it wasn't just her,

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<v Speaker 2>There was many many but I found out all at once.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was a pretty good sting, especially when I

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<v Speaker 2>thought he was gold and so I don't know it

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<v Speaker 2>was a difficult but a beautiful one in the end,

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<v Speaker 2>because I would have never ever in my life thought

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<v Speaker 2>I would be involved in this industry. And when I

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<v Speaker 2>did get involved, it's like I belonged, Like I hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>really worked a job, I had no career. It put

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<v Speaker 2>me through school. I put myself through school. I I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I just everybody welcomed me, and my fans

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<v Speaker 2>just boosted me up and told me I mattered to them,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was really just a positive all the way around.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been It's been a great ride. And I like

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<v Speaker 2>being too. I like being Lily, like that's fun to be.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also like looking at people and going I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care, like because Lily doesn't care, shouldn't give a shit,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm much more reserved, very much so. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>been fun to play the character, play the part.

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<v Speaker 1>You may eventually start to live the part.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like, you know, I don't know if i'd

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<v Speaker 2>lived her life. She's pretty wild. But but it is fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fun thing to do it definitely, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the entrepreneurship of it, the self employment, just it's a constant.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very strategic. It's like a game of chess. I

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<v Speaker 2>always say, you've got to really plan things out. There's

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<v Speaker 2>never really a sure way to do things. So it

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<v Speaker 2>takes a lot of planning and thinking and teamwork and

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's just a It occupies a lot of my

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<v Speaker 2>time in a good way.

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<v Speaker 1>I always asked this question, and it's half a joke,

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<v Speaker 1>but did you realize that coming into the porn industry

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<v Speaker 1>would be about five percent having sex and the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of it was social media?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? Blah, So a little secret about me. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was like really really reserved on the sex part

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<v Speaker 2>because I was just like, oh my god, I have

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<v Speaker 2>to do I'm going to have to give a blowjob,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm gonna I'm going to have to do what?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's why I didn't keep the huzz but anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>so so basically I had to tell myself, am I

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<v Speaker 2>okay with doing this? So then I found a way

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<v Speaker 2>around doing Really the sex stuff was because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>playing the Mommy, it's a lot of dialogue. My fans

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<v Speaker 2>like to jack off to the whole storyline. They are

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<v Speaker 2>not into pop shots and all that stuff. Because I

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<v Speaker 2>am a major comophobe. I learned that too, so I

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<v Speaker 2>don't really need loads anywhere that I yeah, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>we sticked a cream pine on the face. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>see it, you know, that sort of stuff. But I

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<v Speaker 2>definitely I have a list of what I won't do

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<v Speaker 2>when I started, which was pretty pretty much. It was

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<v Speaker 2>easier to say what I would do, and I have

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<v Speaker 2>gotten away with a lot or not necessarily having to

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<v Speaker 2>do so much, boy girl, because I talked to my

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<v Speaker 2>fans right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, sure, I want to come back to your list

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<v Speaker 1>because I have a thing like, yeah, but I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say this. I am a I am a I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a pop shot fetishist. Like that's what I Oh, many

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<v Speaker 1>are sure? Sure? Sure? You know you bring up a

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<v Speaker 1>new scene, you fast forward right to the end.

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<v Speaker 2>What I don't have an end? What? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>What is it that grosses you out? Is it the

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<v Speaker 1>smell the texture that tastes.

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<v Speaker 2>The Okay, so get this, I can't smell. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>not that the taste. I've never tasted it that. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's psychological. There's no reason behind why. I'm like totally,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just afraid of it. Like I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mind if it's someone i'm with. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's more the rando cumshots, like like if you shoot,

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<v Speaker 2>you could shoot it on my am. I stuff just

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't like sit there and stare at it.

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<v Speaker 2>But but if the thought of it going near my

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<v Speaker 2>mouth is just horrible to me. But you know, I've

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<v Speaker 2>learned I could take it on the face, which means

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<v Speaker 2>I can handle it, so it's not the texture.

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<v Speaker 1>Then give me a second. Let me cross off all

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<v Speaker 1>of my bukkake questions. That's going to eliminate about twenty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes of our conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I have a friend who does bukkaki. Shea at

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<v Speaker 2>that book. I was in the room one time and

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<v Speaker 2>I smelt that there were so many Uh you said

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<v Speaker 2>you said something earlier about meeting people at like the

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<v Speaker 2>Why Not Show, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I, as a total idiot from the outside, just ignorant

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Right, I would look at it and I

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<v Speaker 1>would assume from all the stigma I've heard all of

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<v Speaker 1>the years about women, I would go, this must be

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<v Speaker 1>the caddiest, nastiest business where people don't help each other

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<v Speaker 1>and they're fighting to climb to the top. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>polar opposite, isn't it. Well, from what I've seen, at least, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>We definitely have a stigma, but that stigma is a

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<v Speaker 2>good like in my opinion, it makes us more valuable.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes us dirtier, naughtier, like we leave that to

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<v Speaker 2>the fans to make us out to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>much more than we are. They also think that we are,

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<v Speaker 2>like at these we're just fucking all the time, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, I'm the only one I don't know. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's quite a few of us that don't even have sex.

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<v Speaker 2>We consider it more performing, but we don't even have

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<v Speaker 2>personal sex in ten years, so that's where it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of funny about that. But yeah, we are so like

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<v Speaker 2>we team up a lot. There's girls like Garcy Dean

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<v Speaker 2>and Piper breass and and Kaylani Kai and there's pre

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<v Speaker 2>or Rye. Like we always get together, Amy Quinn. We

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<v Speaker 2>are always conferring, putting our brains together, figuring things out,

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<v Speaker 2>teaming up. Especially at the exoticas we get to intermingle

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<v Speaker 2>with our fans. We spend the whole weekend with them.

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<v Speaker 2>They know us like they know us like personally because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we're at the expo. But then there's all

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<v Speaker 2>the after parties they come with that you know to us,

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<v Speaker 2>with us, we are not separated from them. We definitely interact.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's that is like the ultimate because without our fans,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not we don't exist. So yeah, that's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to Exotica probably the last like four years

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<v Speaker 1>in Jersey, ever since I started doing this show, and

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<v Speaker 1>I love that one. Yeah, I do too. But this

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<v Speaker 1>last year though, man, it has really exploded in popular

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't miss last time, you know, two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>totally fine, I could not move last year. It was

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<v Speaker 1>crazy how tight everything was, how fucking hot. I wasn't there. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>do you do? So you do convention? Were you at

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<v Speaker 1>that one? Did I miss you?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah? I had a booth there with Skyhawk after

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<v Speaker 2>dark we did our booth. We had about fifteen girls

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I probably squeezed by you guys about six times.

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<v Speaker 2>A yeah, for sure, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>What is a what is etiquette for you at one

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<v Speaker 1>of these conventions? Because again I always am real nice

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<v Speaker 1>myself and totally respectful professional. I'm in the professional version

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<v Speaker 1>of this industry, right, yeah. But then one girl, it's

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<v Speaker 1>this girl Cat who I interviewed, total sweetheart Cat, no

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<v Speaker 1>cat Karma or gasling, which, yeah, oh do you know her?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've heard, Yeah, she's she's just one of my favorites.

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<v Speaker 1>She came on the show very early on and just

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<v Speaker 1>I love her. She's a sweetheart. Whatever. But the next

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're leaving. It was really nice to meet

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<v Speaker 1>Next dude that walks up just comes and just grabs

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<v Speaker 1>her ass like it was alans bottle of water in

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<v Speaker 2>It was it's really hard to get water there.

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<v Speaker 1>What is like proper etiquette for you at these things,

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<v Speaker 1>and what is something you could say right now to

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<v Speaker 2>If you're there, well, don't just stick your finger in

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<v Speaker 2>me or leave marks. I would say, basically like just

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<v Speaker 2>act right. They know what's right and wrong, you know

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<v Speaker 2>some of them, some of them do things, But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't encounter that too often. It's a good crowd. I

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<v Speaker 2>would have to say overall, I have maybe heard of

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<v Speaker 2>that once or twice, like and otherwise they wait for

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<v Speaker 2>the performer to invite them to do that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but we don't really get grabbed at, not too often. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got great security. It's the same security that travels

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<v Speaker 2>everywhere with us. So they really just have a tight

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<v Speaker 2>rain and it's it's just good people like our fans

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<v Speaker 2>are not barbaric animals or now online they can be

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit mouthfier, sure, but they in general, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have any I haven't seen any issues. None of

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<v Speaker 2>our girls have had issues in our booths each time,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's not really a concern.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, Yeah, that's good to hear. You went well. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>from my outside perspective, if I wasn't involved, I would

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<v Speaker 1>be you would think we would. Yeah, I bet it's

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<v Speaker 1>a shit show there. I bet everyone's crazy blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, yeah it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was pretty respect It was just too packed, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got I get a lot of that, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you must run into some crazy people, and it's like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>they're actually really good, genuine people, you know, more introverted.

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<v Speaker 2>Quite often, I don't see them as weird at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't rarely do I ever say this is a

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<v Speaker 2>weird one, like, very rarely, very.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a lot of weird dudes when I went,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not I'm not a performer, so.

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<v Speaker 2>They wait visually visually weird or well.

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<v Speaker 1>I try not to judge people just on their visuals.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, no, they were weirdo looking people and they

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<v Speaker 1>creep me out a little bit. But if they're nice

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<v Speaker 1>and respectful, whatever are they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking at the eh, they like, you're making me on.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a performer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that women were looking at me and vomiting. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>it was very sick.

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<v Speaker 2>To do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I break all the rules.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you like vomit? No? No, no, I know someone

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<v Speaker 2>that loves it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just it's just not there girls to.

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<v Speaker 2>Vomit on each other and in each other's mouth, And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a realm. There's certain bodily fluid realms, which

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<v Speaker 1>is maybe why I have an understanding of your com phobia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know what it's from. At least you

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<v Speaker 2>understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's certain Yeah, I don't know either, honestly, as I

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<v Speaker 1>as I think about it. I don't know where it

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<v Speaker 1>all comes from. I know, like I like all girls

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<v Speaker 1>and gothy girls, and my wife is very pale skin,

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<v Speaker 1>dark hair because I grew up at a time when

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<v Speaker 1>it was like the Blink one eighty two, Avril Levine,

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<v Speaker 1>pop punk type of stuff. So that's my fetish.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're hot. Yeah, I do like that too.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's something about them too. It looks like they

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<v Speaker 1>break rules and I like, yeah, and I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're quiet, they are que that's nice to it.

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<v Speaker 2>They're secretive in a way like they're just they're mysterious.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, very mysterious and fun. And yeah it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Just plain like pretty, like like if I put that

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<v Speaker 2>on my feet and all that, I look like a clown.

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<v Speaker 1>No you look.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I've tried it. Now we'll we'll leave it

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<v Speaker 2>at that. I've tried it fair enough. Not a good idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh yeah, I'm like, no, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>do that again.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Let me ask you this. You have a

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<v Speaker 1>tattoo on your chest. Maybe love it, hate it? Old tattoo?

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<v Speaker 1>Want to keep it around? It's sentimental. Any idea on

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<v Speaker 1>removing it, any idea brightening it? Up. What are we?

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<v Speaker 1>How do we feel about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I've had many I went through the phase

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<v Speaker 2>of all the tattoos, the para scenes I have had,

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<v Speaker 2>Like my arm removed, the lazered off.

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<v Speaker 1>You can kind of see a green green but it looks.

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<v Speaker 2>They couldn't lift it back then, like I see it

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<v Speaker 2>barely right there.

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<v Speaker 1>If you told me I couldn't, I was literally My

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<v Speaker 1>next question was is that the only tattoo you've ever gotten?

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<v Speaker 1>And what kind of decision was that? So that is

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead? Yeah? Sorry?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so this one was removed and then I had

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<v Speaker 2>a tummy tuck so so that was cut off, thank god.

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<v Speaker 2>And then this one is just this is a cover

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<v Speaker 2>up from probably thirty plus years ago. It's faded for

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<v Speaker 2>some reason. People like it. I don't know why. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just three roses that fit the letters on the cursive

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<v Speaker 2>and that's how it was, and that's all it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's nothing more than that. And I don't want to go,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, burn off my tit and I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to put I don't want another tattoo.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you so you're done with tattoos?

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<v Speaker 2>Then? Oh yeah, oh yeah, I'm over it? Like that

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<v Speaker 2>was a phase. So I'm done with that. And then

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<v Speaker 2>of course the piercings. You know, sometimes if you go

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<v Speaker 2>to the pokey one time, they'll tell you to take

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<v Speaker 2>them out and then they close up. So that was

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<v Speaker 2>many many moons ago, and so I was like, huh,

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<v Speaker 2>just kept him out.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife. My wife took her nipple piercings out. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of those things where at first she got

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<v Speaker 1>it done without telling me, which is almost like not

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<v Speaker 1>that she has to, but it's like, you know, we're together,

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<v Speaker 1>and let me know that you're gonna go get this done.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I fall in love with it. Then she takes

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<v Speaker 1>amount and it close up and I miss them. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna start trying to have kids in a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years, so he doesn't want to get yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, in this weird cross pattern. I like

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<v Speaker 1>your tattoo. I think your tttoo is very nice. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really unique too. Yeah, just in terms of just in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of it creates an aesthetic for you where you're

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<v Speaker 1>this gorgeous like statuesque curves. Oh, and then you have

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<v Speaker 1>this nice print here and it's like ooh, a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of it.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit of a signature. I'd never intended it

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<v Speaker 2>to be.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, all right, let me let's let's circle back

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<v Speaker 1>to what we were saying before about your no list.

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<v Speaker 1>You're absolutely not well not okay, first, let me start

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<v Speaker 1>this way. Is there something you wish? All right, the

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<v Speaker 1>last like ten fifteen years, we've seen this big step mom,

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<v Speaker 1>step whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Step Oh, I'm not a stepper. That's just fucking your

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<v Speaker 2>dad's wife. Yeah, that's not the same. That doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>the same level of perversion as as not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a different audience completely.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, oh yeah, there's there's two different types of

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<v Speaker 1>mental illness. There no one of them illegal.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait no, no, no, hold on, hold on okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>this is what a big, big, huge misconception. By no

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<v Speaker 2>means do we when we do this kind of role play?

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<v Speaker 2>Are we thinking of our biological parents or our biological

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<v Speaker 2>children or siblings? Like that? Does it? That's so gross?

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<v Speaker 2>Like you're like, you know what I mean, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to fuck my sister. Like my sister she's

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<v Speaker 2>like like I don't want to do that, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, I don't want to fuck my dad.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to fuck you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's just the way it is. It is. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a it's explaining a role of So say you have

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<v Speaker 2>like a mistress where she punishes. She wears the black

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the latex, she'll whip you, she'll make it

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<v Speaker 2>clean stuff, lick stuff up, or do whatever, and you

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<v Speaker 2>get punished. Now, a mommy is someone who is dominant,

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<v Speaker 2>she's a milk. She's experienced. But the next thing is

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<v Speaker 2>she's nurturing. So that's how you divide it between. It

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<v Speaker 2>has absolutely nothing to do with incest at all. Like

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<v Speaker 2>it it's so far fetched that someone would say that

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<v Speaker 2>because we do, say daddy without a problem. Nobody wants

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<v Speaker 2>to fuck their biological I mean there's always that one,

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<v Speaker 2>but nobody is intending on fucking when they say, oh

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<v Speaker 2>that's my daddy, you know, they're not like thinking, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my bio dad, I want to go and like boneum,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's so far fetched. And it's the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>with mommy. It has no underlying like it just is

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<v Speaker 2>not that's not what it is. So a mommy will

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<v Speaker 2>teach you, oh, son, you're doing that so wrong, Like

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<v Speaker 2>let my mommy show you, because moms we show them

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<v Speaker 2>how to do things right. So basically it's an older

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<v Speaker 2>woman experienced women with a younger and that's that's where

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<v Speaker 2>the role comes in. It has nothing, please, nothing ever

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<v Speaker 2>to do with incest.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's so far out of the box. I've done

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<v Speaker 1>probably one hundred and fifty of these episodes so far.

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<v Speaker 1>I have never had somebody break it down. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>sinctly like that, like it's a soft dom thing then

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<v Speaker 1>is what it feels.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's very dominant, and it's it's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>dialogue and and yes, we hit that level of perversion

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<v Speaker 2>like you you know, just saying like, oh, your penis

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<v Speaker 2>was made inside of me, so it belongs there. Like

418
00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:53.160
<v Speaker 2>that's a that's such a level of perversion. But it's not.

419
00:22:53.400 --> 00:22:56.400
<v Speaker 2>It's not at all an incest thing. It's just being

420
00:22:57.359 --> 00:23:00.440
<v Speaker 2>perverted to the extreme and the more perverse. If you

421
00:23:00.519 --> 00:23:05.640
<v Speaker 2>are the it's just so much fun. It's so much fun.

422
00:23:06.039 --> 00:23:08.279
<v Speaker 2>But if I'm being a step mom, like I'm just

423
00:23:08.319 --> 00:23:10.799
<v Speaker 2>a slut, you know what I mean, Like like there's

424
00:23:10.839 --> 00:23:13.559
<v Speaker 2>nothing wrong with the sluts, like I don't like but

425
00:23:13.559 --> 00:23:18.279
<v Speaker 2>but I'm the one where you you innocently start fucking him,

426
00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:20.559
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? You innocent like or you

427
00:23:20.680 --> 00:23:24.880
<v Speaker 2>or mom is the aggressor and she's really just like

428
00:23:25.799 --> 00:23:28.440
<v Speaker 2>he's really a fine young man, and mom wants to

429
00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:31.400
<v Speaker 2>get pregnant and her husband, his dad's not going to

430
00:23:31.480 --> 00:23:33.880
<v Speaker 2>do it, so why not? You got a good one, right?

431
00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:36.519
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's sort of a hundred dialogue.

432
00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I always say, as long as there's no dogs or

433
00:23:39.559 --> 00:23:41.119
<v Speaker 1>kids in the room, I don't give a shit what

434
00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:44.039
<v Speaker 1>your kink is. You do you whatever it is, as

435
00:23:44.039 --> 00:23:50.400
<v Speaker 1>long as it's legal, that's very legal. It's just well

436
00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:53.720
<v Speaker 1>we talked about gross things earlier, like vomit or anything

437
00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:57.839
<v Speaker 1>like that. Maybe it's not so much the actual vomit

438
00:23:58.039 --> 00:24:00.519
<v Speaker 1>or this and that. It's just they need the level

439
00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:06.039
<v Speaker 1>of taboo so much yper than anything is present here,

440
00:24:06.039 --> 00:24:08.480
<v Speaker 1>and you go, you know, it's.

441
00:24:08.279 --> 00:24:12.039
<v Speaker 2>A way to escape from Like I've had er doctors

442
00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:14.960
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that tell me that they they see

443
00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:18.200
<v Speaker 2>such extreme and then if they could step away. That's

444
00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:21.599
<v Speaker 2>where there's so many medical people are freaks, but I

445
00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:26.119
<v Speaker 2>love you all have fun with them. But anyways, so

446
00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:30.359
<v Speaker 2>when they do that, like it's something more extreme than

447
00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:33.160
<v Speaker 2>what they're dealing with. So that's where they get into

448
00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:36.640
<v Speaker 2>a lot of those the extreme kinks and converse, you know,

449
00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:40.920
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, you know, orgies and swinging and all that

450
00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:43.440
<v Speaker 2>stuff is just something that can step them out of

451
00:24:43.480 --> 00:24:49.519
<v Speaker 2>where they're their mindset is usually at you know, No,

452
00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:51.359
<v Speaker 2>that's about That's not what it is.

453
00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:54.519
<v Speaker 1>That's again very succinct, and I've never really heard it

454
00:24:54.519 --> 00:24:56.519
<v Speaker 1>broken down that way, and it makes total sense. I

455
00:24:56.720 --> 00:25:00.720
<v Speaker 1>took years to a decade and a half have probably

456
00:25:01.039 --> 00:25:04.799
<v Speaker 1>to introduce dirty talking to my wife. Right, Oh, it's great,

457
00:25:05.039 --> 00:25:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh it's and and I totally understand her shyness and

458
00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:13.559
<v Speaker 1>whatever else weird at first, totally yes. But what you

459
00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:16.240
<v Speaker 1>have to establish for me at least, was I go.

460
00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Because we're both very cynical. We laugh a lot, we

461
00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:24.799
<v Speaker 1>both bust each other, you do. But I have said

462
00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:28.119
<v Speaker 1>anything that takes place in this room, you know, while

463
00:25:28.119 --> 00:25:30.240
<v Speaker 1>we're doing this, I will not judge you, for I

464
00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:32.160
<v Speaker 1>will not make fun of you, for I will not whatever.

465
00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I want you to just try, just try and like

466
00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:38.599
<v Speaker 1>talk sexy and do this and that and whatever. And man,

467
00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:42.880
<v Speaker 1>it has taken you. There's so much so hot. Yeah,

468
00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:46.400
<v Speaker 1>And and she doesn't mind it either, she likes it too.

469
00:25:46.640 --> 00:25:49.799
<v Speaker 1>What you I think with any of these fetishes or

470
00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:52.559
<v Speaker 1>taboos or anything like that. Now, look, don't go to

471
00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:54.440
<v Speaker 1>your wife and be like, you know, I want you

472
00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:58.440
<v Speaker 1>to pretend to be my mom without letting her know

473
00:25:58.519 --> 00:26:00.200
<v Speaker 1>the context of it, Like I want you to be

474
00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:02.799
<v Speaker 1>my mom. It's gonna come off strange. You need to

475
00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:03.839
<v Speaker 1>expense to start.

476
00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:06.559
<v Speaker 2>Whispering like little things in her ears and be like,

477
00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:09.839
<v Speaker 2>who's your mom? Oh, you're my mommy, or just something

478
00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:12.400
<v Speaker 2>like once in a while in the moment would be.

479
00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:16.720
<v Speaker 2>I know, men are the best teachers of dirty talk

480
00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:19.680
<v Speaker 2>because what we think a man wants to hear is

481
00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:23.640
<v Speaker 2>so far off. So I started learning to dirty talk

482
00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:27.720
<v Speaker 2>by asking my fans, what's your trigger words? What one

483
00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:30.000
<v Speaker 2>liners do you have that you know, because you men

484
00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:33.160
<v Speaker 2>tell themselves like you know, giving up horsey, you know,

485
00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:35.680
<v Speaker 2>like they say all kinds of stuff to their dicks,

486
00:26:35.720 --> 00:26:40.160
<v Speaker 2>so they need to hear that. They're very very audio driven,

487
00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:44.200
<v Speaker 2>very and visually. So if you just ask them, I

488
00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:48.319
<v Speaker 2>started just like taking note of these one liners like, oh,

489
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:51.759
<v Speaker 2>jerk me a huge rope, but come like, woman, I

490
00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:54.319
<v Speaker 2>would never think of that, what is a rope of? Like?

491
00:26:55.640 --> 00:26:59.319
<v Speaker 2>But anyways, so I just start learning, come on, jerk me,

492
00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:01.720
<v Speaker 2>that huge rope would come and then they would just

493
00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:05.400
<v Speaker 2>do it. I'm like, damn or like you know now

494
00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:08.559
<v Speaker 2>you me, you know, just like stuff that they the

495
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:10.720
<v Speaker 2>best teacher is a man, So yeah, you need to

496
00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:13.640
<v Speaker 2>be teaching your wives. They just don't know what you

497
00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:18.039
<v Speaker 2>want to hear. Yes, yes, that's a lot of it is.

498
00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:21.720
<v Speaker 1>The part of my concern was like, well, I don't

499
00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:23.519
<v Speaker 1>want to directly tell you a word for word what

500
00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:25.119
<v Speaker 1>you want to hear, because then you'll never sleep with

501
00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:27.839
<v Speaker 1>me again to my wife, So let's just casually throw

502
00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:31.480
<v Speaker 1>it really would I mean, look again, tell me.

503
00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:34.200
<v Speaker 2>Something you'd really want to hear that you would not

504
00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:38.680
<v Speaker 2>tell her? Oh, come on, give me one. You got one.

505
00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:40.640
<v Speaker 2>You can't throw that out there and not say something.

506
00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:43.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's not anything crazy or.

507
00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:46.799
<v Speaker 2>Great, No, but it's somewhat silly, probably.

508
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Not even okay, look so it seems like it would

509
00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:52.359
<v Speaker 1>be a basic. But we talked earlier. I have kind

510
00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:54.119
<v Speaker 1>of a thing, I like a popshot type thing. I

511
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:59.519
<v Speaker 1>like whatever, so I like hearing, well, look, I look's

512
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:02.000
<v Speaker 1>going to and say it, but just just yeah, anything

513
00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:06.240
<v Speaker 1>like come on my face, cume on my mouth, even

514
00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:08.720
<v Speaker 1>if they don't have to. If she you know, I'll

515
00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>be like, hey, I'll finish on your stomach. I don't care.

516
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Just talk to me like we're doing something else or.

517
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:17.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like she's like, you're gonna shoot this huge rocket

518
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:20.920
<v Speaker 2>because because after I love their.

519
00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Come Yeah, after I finished? What am I doing? It's

520
00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:25.359
<v Speaker 1>not like I need to be hyped up anymore?

521
00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:29.119
<v Speaker 2>No, you guys run afterwards. That is one of the

522
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:33.160
<v Speaker 2>biggest things I have read, which just it was a

523
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:37.319
<v Speaker 2>surprise that when even you're on webcam and you're webcamming

524
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:41.720
<v Speaker 2>and the guy nuts click like he's done. It's almost

525
00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:44.119
<v Speaker 2>like he comes to like a reality of oh my god,

526
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:45.799
<v Speaker 2>what am I doing? He just hangs up. They don't

527
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:48.319
<v Speaker 2>even say bye. And I was like, why would I

528
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:50.920
<v Speaker 2>do wrong? And then someone had told me, oh no,

529
00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:54.480
<v Speaker 2>this happens all the time, So now I know the

530
00:28:54.519 --> 00:28:57.599
<v Speaker 2>second thing that they're out, that's it, and it's not

531
00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:00.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, is it saving money? No, he still had

532
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:02.559
<v Speaker 2>so many minutes left. No, they're just.

533
00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Done, like it's a it's okay, it's calm clarity.

534
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:09.759
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's called or something like weird.

535
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, see, you know what my I I do not

536
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:15.240
<v Speaker 1>do the same thing like run away because she's my

537
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.039
<v Speaker 1>wife obviously, but I'm not like snugly and hold it

538
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:18.640
<v Speaker 1>for an hour.

539
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:20.359
<v Speaker 2>No, we don't want that either.

540
00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:23.279
<v Speaker 1>I need a little Yeah, she wishes I would be

541
00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:28.359
<v Speaker 1>a little more snuggly and nice and stuff. I'm just before, No,

542
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:31.079
<v Speaker 1>no after, like you know, kind of intimate and nice after.

543
00:29:31.559 --> 00:29:32.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean, isn't that cute?

544
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, it's not. You know, it's not like it's

545
00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:37.640
<v Speaker 1>a one night stand. It's you know, my wife.

546
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

547
00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:42.200
<v Speaker 1>But I start it starts going through my head. I

548
00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:45.599
<v Speaker 1>start going like, okay, well you just did that. You

549
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>talk you we're dirty talking during it, so you I

550
00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:52.200
<v Speaker 1>know she's not going to judge me for it. But

551
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:54.680
<v Speaker 1>that fear comes in, like, oh god, what did I say?

552
00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:57.960
<v Speaker 1>There's about how I look? And I go, oh, she'll

553
00:29:58.039 --> 00:30:00.079
<v Speaker 1>leave me if she realizes what I look like.

554
00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:04.000
<v Speaker 2>And then how would she not know what you look like?

555
00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:06.359
<v Speaker 2>Isn't she fucking new?

556
00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:09.039
<v Speaker 1>No she is, But like my body, the lights off,

557
00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:13.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not regularly walking around naked, though, Oh do.

558
00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:14.039
<v Speaker 2>You have the lights off?

559
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean.

560
00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Tearing those lights on? You do it in the dark.

561
00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:23.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand. No, a nice TV on in them

562
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:26.680
<v Speaker 1>some lights above. It's not dark dark, it's definitely not dark.

563
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:28.319
<v Speaker 1>You could still see everything.

564
00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Like spotlight on that with a camera.

565
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:36.039
<v Speaker 1>Or lights on, would I would just lose my rod immediately?

566
00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh you got a little I can't. I just see.

567
00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:41.559
<v Speaker 2>That's the thing with the milk is we don't give

568
00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:44.839
<v Speaker 2>a shit. We don't care. We've already our kids have

569
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:48.799
<v Speaker 2>wrecked us. We have they're out of the house, they're grown, like,

570
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:51.559
<v Speaker 2>we just want to get off, Like that's pretty much

571
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:53.400
<v Speaker 2>what we're like, twenty one year old boys.

572
00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:56.440
<v Speaker 1>That's what they say, right, Yeah, we're such.

573
00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:59.319
<v Speaker 2>In our prime in our forties. It's like over the top,

574
00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:03.640
<v Speaker 2>like so cool. Yeah great, and we need someone to

575
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:05.920
<v Speaker 2>keep up. But you know, I have to say, I

576
00:31:05.960 --> 00:31:08.400
<v Speaker 2>believe that men's dicks keep growing, like you know how

577
00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:11.799
<v Speaker 2>your nose keeps growing in your ears supposedly your whole life. Sure,

578
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.319
<v Speaker 2>I think their dicks start growing because old men have huge,

579
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:16.559
<v Speaker 2>huge dicks.

580
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:18.839
<v Speaker 1>I think you've been hanging out with old men with

581
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>big dicks maybe.

582
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Because tell it, I've seen it all.

583
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:26.119
<v Speaker 1>They're big, no fourth grade, so I don't know what

584
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about.

585
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:30.160
<v Speaker 2>And they got these saggy balls. Yeah, it's just like

586
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:36.079
<v Speaker 2>so old men, don't you fret? I don't really like

587
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:38.759
<v Speaker 2>to fucking it too, But I'm just saying that. The

588
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:42.960
<v Speaker 2>younger guys, you know, it's just it's so much fun

589
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:43.880
<v Speaker 2>to control them.

590
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:46.079
<v Speaker 1>So what do you prefer to work with when you're

591
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>shooting scenes, doing whatever? Do you prefer younger guys? Do

592
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:53.119
<v Speaker 1>you prefer guys more qualified? Quote unquote.

593
00:31:54.680 --> 00:31:59.440
<v Speaker 2>No, that's a hard one because it's just someone that

594
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:04.880
<v Speaker 2>I connect with or have the chemistry with. I it's

595
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:10.200
<v Speaker 2>all of it. Like I like them big. Big is good.

596
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:13.759
<v Speaker 1>Okay, there's big.

597
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:17.160
<v Speaker 2>It's just big, no, no, no, and that's good, you know,

598
00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:22.240
<v Speaker 2>So I like it. I like them like literally, I

599
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:24.799
<v Speaker 2>mean I think just because I'm there that I bring

600
00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:27.079
<v Speaker 2>it out in them regardless, Like they could be the

601
00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:30.079
<v Speaker 2>most reserved person and I will bring out the freaking them.

602
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:31.759
<v Speaker 1>That's nice. That's good to hear.

603
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:34.200
<v Speaker 2>So they just let it go with me. It's just

604
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:38.279
<v Speaker 2>like so great, like wow, and I stop and go,

605
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:42.000
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, is this what my life has resorted to?

606
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:44.240
<v Speaker 2>Like this is what I'm really doing? I'm like, I

607
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:46.279
<v Speaker 2>am it's cool.

608
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. Resorted to. Resorted to is the wrong word, though,

609
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:53.200
<v Speaker 1>it's it's is this where my journey has taken me?

610
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:56.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah? But I mean one time I was skipping

611
00:32:56.440 --> 00:33:01.359
<v Speaker 2>through the woods and a scarecrow cross costume for Wizard

612
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:04.680
<v Speaker 2>of Oz topless, so let him, you know, with three

613
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:08.279
<v Speaker 2>other girls. And I was like this, this is what

614
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:12.880
<v Speaker 2>my life has come to. And I'm like, ski ski,

615
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:17.319
<v Speaker 2>just kept skipping. Great great video by the way, But yeah, I.

616
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Thought that was I thought that was a preborn story.

617
00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:21.559
<v Speaker 1>You were like, I was skipping through the woods one time.

618
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:23.519
<v Speaker 1>I was like, fuck, is this one gonna go? And

619
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:25.519
<v Speaker 1>then you go in a SCARECROWK I go, well.

620
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:29.000
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna get crazy. Yeah, because we were doing we

621
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:33.400
<v Speaker 2>were the Wizard of Uh. We were gonna go do

622
00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:35.480
<v Speaker 2>the Wizard of Oz, but we had to find him

623
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:39.559
<v Speaker 2>and so yeah, Trun, I understand that's a sun one.

624
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<v Speaker 1>Going back a few minutes when we started talking about

625
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<v Speaker 1>the Mom step Mom, the taboo that is there? What

626
00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:49.519
<v Speaker 1>is a trend you hope takes off next, something that

627
00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:52.480
<v Speaker 1>you actually really really like, Like you like this now,

628
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I understand that, But is there yea elsewhere you're like, yo, shit,

629
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<v Speaker 1>if that takes off, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna

630
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<v Speaker 1>be rilled for the next x amount of years.

631
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<v Speaker 2>Mm. Well, there's really good question. I would like to

632
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:14.039
<v Speaker 2>see old classic movie sets and film to come back.

633
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:18.480
<v Speaker 2>I think that that we have cheapened it a bit

634
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:24.079
<v Speaker 2>by meaning the theatrics and the performances and the big

635
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:28.519
<v Speaker 2>stars are just not not there anymore. So I would

636
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:31.400
<v Speaker 2>like to see that cycle back around, and hopefully it does.

637
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:37.079
<v Speaker 2>We have have had a lot of restrictions and things

638
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:39.480
<v Speaker 2>that we have to battle to get there. We're always

639
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:43.000
<v Speaker 2>very resourceful and we find a way to keep it going.

640
00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:45.159
<v Speaker 2>But that's definitely died down.

641
00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Sure, what are some of the things that are on

642
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:51.760
<v Speaker 1>your no list?

643
00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:52.079
<v Speaker 2>Then?

644
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:54.559
<v Speaker 1>What are some times there.

645
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:54.880
<v Speaker 3>We go.

646
00:34:56.920 --> 00:35:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, so it would be it's the vomit shit,

647
00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:02.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's funny.

648
00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Wait, let me interrupt you. I used to do a

649
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:05.920
<v Speaker 1>game run down the I used to do a game

650
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:09.039
<v Speaker 1>like this called sack Shit Animals Kids, and it was

651
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:11.719
<v Speaker 1>oh because I would ask what is something that you

652
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:14.239
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't shoot a scene for blah blah blah, and inevitably

653
00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:16.280
<v Speaker 1>women would always go like, well, I wouldn't suck a

654
00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:18.400
<v Speaker 1>kid and be like, yeah, no, I know that that

655
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>one's good. So we just take those out of the equation. Yeah,

656
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:22.920
<v Speaker 1>there's animals.

657
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:24.599
<v Speaker 2>Kids, Yeah, yeah, this takes those out. But you know,

658
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:28.199
<v Speaker 2>there's a site that's for like come haters, the women

659
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:30.880
<v Speaker 2>that hate Come. But I can't even bring myself to

660
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:33.679
<v Speaker 2>do that site because they have to come in my mouth,

661
00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:35.840
<v Speaker 2>like for me to show how much I hate it,

662
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:38.719
<v Speaker 2>and I can't. I can't bring myself to do it.

663
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:43.199
<v Speaker 2>So that's a big one that would be. That's no.

664
00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:45.760
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty much usually my no. And I don't want

665
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:49.960
<v Speaker 2>marks on me. I'm not I don't do I'll humiliate

666
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:51.639
<v Speaker 2>the shit out of someone, but I don't want it

667
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.119
<v Speaker 2>done to me. I just like want to punch them

668
00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:56.800
<v Speaker 2>in the dick instead when they like even if it's

669
00:35:56.920 --> 00:36:00.719
<v Speaker 2>role playing, I'm just like, it just doesn't with me.

670
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:03.079
<v Speaker 2>It's funny because I'm like a lot more submissive. I

671
00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:06.239
<v Speaker 2>think I don't really know because when I had sex forever,

672
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:09.800
<v Speaker 2>but in real life it's kind of like, I don't know.

673
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:13.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying I don't like it when I'm feeling

674
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:15.800
<v Speaker 2>and if someone gets dominant with me, it just makes

675
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:18.920
<v Speaker 2>me want to put them in their place. But it

676
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:23.920
<v Speaker 2>also I think it's relinquishing a little bit of control

677
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:26.559
<v Speaker 2>when you're that vulnerable. So I give it to the

678
00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:29.480
<v Speaker 2>ones that are submissive. I really do that that takes

679
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:33.159
<v Speaker 2>a lot to just give in like that, like it's

680
00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:36.880
<v Speaker 2>it's difficult for me. So anything that's more humiliating, you know,

681
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:40.159
<v Speaker 2>humiliating or just like like why do you want me

682
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:42.440
<v Speaker 2>to do that? Like why do you want to hit me?

683
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Or piss all over me? Or But then again, there

684
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:49.599
<v Speaker 2>are those who are perfectly fine with that. So there's

685
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:52.079
<v Speaker 2>as long as it's two that are cool with it,

686
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:56.280
<v Speaker 2>there shouldn't be any judgment by anybody about it. It's

687
00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:59.039
<v Speaker 2>just not something maybe that I would do. Sure, you know,

688
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:01.000
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of people to get the mommy rolled

689
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:04.280
<v Speaker 2>whatsoe have they just started No, no, no, that's gross.

690
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:07.559
<v Speaker 2>I have gives no, no, no, it's just so misunderstood.

691
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:11.800
<v Speaker 2>But that's okay too. Sure, Well, the labeling on it

692
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:15.239
<v Speaker 2>makes it valuable, Yeah for sure. Yeah, but it's it's

693
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:18.119
<v Speaker 2>the labeling on it which is necessary and required, Like

694
00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:21.400
<v Speaker 2>I have to know this is a mommy step mommy

695
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:24.079
<v Speaker 2>type situation, otherwise I'm not going to watch it. Why not?

696
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:27.800
<v Speaker 1>I Well, if I'm looking for that fetish, I need

697
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:30.559
<v Speaker 1>to know what it is. I'm saying. If I were, yeah,

698
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:33.599
<v Speaker 1>yeah I would. I had a debate one time, not

699
00:37:33.639 --> 00:37:37.199
<v Speaker 1>a real debate, but with a performer about categories, and

700
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:40.880
<v Speaker 1>she was totally against it. And I totally understood her

701
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>point too. It was mostly about performers of color. How

702
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:49.280
<v Speaker 1>establishing them in other categories or calling this interracial or

703
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:52.639
<v Speaker 1>whatever es sense could be negative towards them. But I

704
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:55.199
<v Speaker 1>thought I made a compelling point that if you group

705
00:37:55.320 --> 00:38:00.920
<v Speaker 1>everything under hot Lady, right, isn't the top ten percent

706
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:03.280
<v Speaker 1>of the industry with the biggest following then going to

707
00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:07.440
<v Speaker 1>dominate all of that type of stuff?

708
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, we do niche it, Yeah, and you don't want

709
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:12.119
<v Speaker 2>to go through every I guess that would leave it

710
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:15.480
<v Speaker 2>open to that you would have to search through every

711
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:19.280
<v Speaker 2>video to find your niche. But also you have to

712
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:21.679
<v Speaker 2>remember back in the day when they you would buy

713
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:24.199
<v Speaker 2>the porn, you would want to know what you're buying.

714
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:29.920
<v Speaker 2>But I do see them backing off the BBC, the

715
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:33.679
<v Speaker 2>anti rate, you know, the IR And I think she's

716
00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:36.840
<v Speaker 2>got a point. And when it comes to that particular

717
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:41.039
<v Speaker 2>instance like that, that makes sense to me. I believe

718
00:38:41.079 --> 00:38:45.079
<v Speaker 2>that to be true. But I noticed they've backed off

719
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:45.800
<v Speaker 2>that quite a bit.

720
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and maybe that's a good thing. It's probably a

721
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:53.119
<v Speaker 1>good thing. I think it's good morally. I just worry

722
00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:57.199
<v Speaker 1>about the repercussions of Morley. Yeah, I think it's a

723
00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:00.800
<v Speaker 1>good thing to do now, not kell like all right,

724
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:03.199
<v Speaker 1>so why are we not categorizing people like that?

725
00:39:03.639 --> 00:39:08.039
<v Speaker 2>But it's not even it's just that one in particular,

726
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:12.159
<v Speaker 2>I think is more like singled out and it does

727
00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:16.719
<v Speaker 2>limit them. That's just from my own perception. But there

728
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:21.199
<v Speaker 2>is nothing moral about porn like that word that shouldn't like,

729
00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:26.400
<v Speaker 2>no moral about porn.

730
00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:29.599
<v Speaker 1>Okay, let me let me say that you're you're exactly right,

731
00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:32.199
<v Speaker 1>But let me say that I say I'm running one

732
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:34.960
<v Speaker 1>of the big tube sites, right, Okay, someone comes to me,

733
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:37.800
<v Speaker 1>a young African American performer and she says, I really

734
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:40.239
<v Speaker 1>think it's terrible that people are categorized in this way.

735
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:43.199
<v Speaker 1>That I'm stuck under ebony or whatever it would be. Yeah,

736
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:49.800
<v Speaker 1>whatever the category as a person who can empathize with

737
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:53.400
<v Speaker 1>this person and understand where they're coming from and everything else,

738
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:56.360
<v Speaker 1>the morally right decision for me as a person just

739
00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:59.519
<v Speaker 1>seeing this other performer as a person and understanding their play,

740
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:03.039
<v Speaker 1>I get it. No, there's no no actual morals, but

741
00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:05.599
<v Speaker 1>I just mean when I said that, I meant morally

742
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:08.000
<v Speaker 1>like making the right decision as a human and not

743
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:10.719
<v Speaker 1>necessarily as a business person or a producer.

744
00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:13.000
<v Speaker 2>I was going to say, this is about money, though,

745
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:15.000
<v Speaker 2>you got to, you know, let's scale it back to

746
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:18.199
<v Speaker 2>what it's really about. So of course you're going to

747
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:22.719
<v Speaker 2>Everybody gets put into their category of where they make money.

748
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:27.360
<v Speaker 2>So the fans put us in those categories, those niches

749
00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:30.960
<v Speaker 2>I was put into them. I would have never I

750
00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:35.480
<v Speaker 2>didn't even watch porn beforehand, So that's another shocker besides

751
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:38.320
<v Speaker 2>that kind of shocker, you know, but it's a shocker

752
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:41.519
<v Speaker 2>like I was like, what the is this? And they

753
00:40:41.559 --> 00:40:43.840
<v Speaker 2>started calling me that, and then it's I had I

754
00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:48.119
<v Speaker 2>had a producer from Angel from XCS network. He's a

755
00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:51.440
<v Speaker 2>good one, but he wanted to do a mommy daughter

756
00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:55.519
<v Speaker 2>daddy role play. And I was like, I can't do this,

757
00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:57.199
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not going to do that, like this girl

758
00:40:57.280 --> 00:40:59.639
<v Speaker 2>looks like she's eight, Like I'm not going to do that.

759
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:03.039
<v Speaker 2>And he was like, listen, you don't have to do it.

760
00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:05.280
<v Speaker 2>And he says, but let me explain it to you first,

761
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:08.280
<v Speaker 2>and he said, you're an actress. You are an actor.

762
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:12.199
<v Speaker 2>You are performing. You're not really like if we on

763
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:14.400
<v Speaker 2>the movies, just people who have to do horrible. You know,

764
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:17.639
<v Speaker 2>they're mass murders, they're childless, but they're all kinds of

765
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:21.079
<v Speaker 2>roles and on the internet, you know, but they're not

766
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:24.400
<v Speaker 2>that person. So he's like, it's just acting. And I

767
00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:28.199
<v Speaker 2>was like, okay, okay, and so it's like the best

768
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:31.639
<v Speaker 2>movie I ever did, sure by far. And it was

769
00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:35.559
<v Speaker 2>just sometimes people just need to understand, like step back

770
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:38.800
<v Speaker 2>for a second and swallow your huh and just go

771
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:42.880
<v Speaker 2>hold on like that's not what that means and truly

772
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:46.519
<v Speaker 2>understand that, Like I don't. It's not ancest.

773
00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:48.519
<v Speaker 1>No no, no, no, no, no, it's not.

774
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:53.840
<v Speaker 2>And it's not morally right like to be watching I

775
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:55.639
<v Speaker 2>can talk out of two sides of my face on

776
00:41:55.679 --> 00:42:01.079
<v Speaker 2>this one, because it is hurting our society truemendously. I

777
00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:07.159
<v Speaker 2>think it's a definite problem. It is our children have

778
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:10.920
<v Speaker 2>way too much access to it. Parents aren't watching. It

779
00:42:11.199 --> 00:42:13.800
<v Speaker 2>is the parent's responsibility, but the fact is they're not

780
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:18.440
<v Speaker 2>watching them or they're not and so us coming together

781
00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:22.079
<v Speaker 2>as a community, you know, the Americans, that we have

782
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:24.960
<v Speaker 2>to make that decision on how we're going to stop

783
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:27.880
<v Speaker 2>them because it's affecting them tremendously. Like when I was

784
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:32.119
<v Speaker 2>growing up, our porn was like National Geographic magazine and

785
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:34.000
<v Speaker 2>we'd be looking at the sago tits and be like,

786
00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:35.719
<v Speaker 2>look at those balls. You know, that was a big

787
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:38.719
<v Speaker 2>deal to us. But the stuff that they can access

788
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:41.840
<v Speaker 2>on the internet is shocking to me. Like I still

789
00:42:41.880 --> 00:42:46.400
<v Speaker 2>get shocked. So I don't want I would not want.

790
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:47.880
<v Speaker 1>It.

791
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:51.800
<v Speaker 2>It's a tough one. So am I contributing to it? Yes?

792
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:56.679
<v Speaker 2>I am so I can two sides of the I'm

793
00:42:56.679 --> 00:42:58.679
<v Speaker 2>well aware that I talk out of two sides of

794
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:01.159
<v Speaker 2>my face with that. It is? Is it the new

795
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:05.760
<v Speaker 2>age verification laws hurting us tremendously as a performer? Yes?

796
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:09.079
<v Speaker 2>Is it? I believe? You know, your freedom of speech

797
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:11.960
<v Speaker 2>a freedom of an eighteen year old. You know, an

798
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:14.840
<v Speaker 2>adult should be able to watch porn, Like, what do

799
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:16.639
<v Speaker 2>you mean we can't watch it with up turning in

800
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:20.800
<v Speaker 2>our IDs as some third party porn agency. That's a

801
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:24.159
<v Speaker 2>little sketch, you know. And it's like you don't. Maybe

802
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:26.000
<v Speaker 2>you don't. A lot of people they don't let their

803
00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:28.679
<v Speaker 2>spouse know they watch it. It just goes on and

804
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:31.119
<v Speaker 2>on of why they should be able to be discreete.

805
00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:34.320
<v Speaker 2>But then on the flip side, you have to buy alcohol,

806
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:36.119
<v Speaker 2>you got to show your ID, but it doesn't go

807
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:39.440
<v Speaker 2>into Maybe it does now because they scan it, but

808
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:45.159
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't necessarily go into a sketch system a database.

809
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that, yes, is vulnerable to hacks or whatever else.

810
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:53.800
<v Speaker 2>It's just they definitely, you know, our industry is pushing

811
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:56.159
<v Speaker 2>for like Google or someone to control that, but not

812
00:43:56.280 --> 00:43:58.440
<v Speaker 2>some random third party that we're going to pay as

813
00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:01.960
<v Speaker 2>little as possible to because it is so expensive to

814
00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:07.199
<v Speaker 2>implement these laws. It's I don't know, it's something that

815
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:10.000
<v Speaker 2>it's really like, that's what we've come to. But yes,

816
00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:13.119
<v Speaker 2>we have because how else can you identify if the

817
00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:16.880
<v Speaker 2>child's there? Are not sure there's there, I don't you know,

818
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:20.239
<v Speaker 2>you just have to we have to do something. I

819
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:23.320
<v Speaker 2>would love to do. The eye scan, biometrics like that

820
00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:26.199
<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff would be reasonable. But in the meantime

821
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:29.360
<v Speaker 2>it has cut everything, you know, in half as far

822
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:34.679
<v Speaker 2>as we're always being shut down, always constantly, and we

823
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:38.400
<v Speaker 2>just we'll find another way. Yeah, you know, you're the

824
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:40.880
<v Speaker 2>little cycle cycle around.

825
00:44:41.039 --> 00:44:43.760
<v Speaker 1>The first person I've talked to who has been honest

826
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:45.760
<v Speaker 1>about I love this industry. I love talking to people

827
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:47.840
<v Speaker 1>in this industry. I think, Yeah, just fascinating to people

828
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:50.880
<v Speaker 1>in the world. I think you're great, Do I do?

829
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:56.360
<v Speaker 1>I think porn might be pushing too far? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

830
00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:58.920
<v Speaker 1>I think I might. But you know what it does.

831
00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:00.519
<v Speaker 2>It's not for us to say he though.

832
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:02.039
<v Speaker 1>No, No, it's not the.

833
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:05.039
<v Speaker 2>Joy of being American. That's the joy of having the

834
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:07.960
<v Speaker 2>freedom of speech and expression. That's the joy. That's what

835
00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:13.519
<v Speaker 2>we're founded on. Is like, but we have technology that

836
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:18.119
<v Speaker 2>is being used in a way that we have to

837
00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:23.239
<v Speaker 2>take preventive measures because it is deeply affecting our future,

838
00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:27.679
<v Speaker 2>meaning the children become adults and they are deeply being

839
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:33.480
<v Speaker 2>affected by If it's not sexual abuse, is pornography, it's

840
00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:37.639
<v Speaker 2>something to do with that. That's just they're just seeing

841
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:38.719
<v Speaker 2>the shit too soon.

842
00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Like, I think it might be even a bigger broader

843
00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:45.559
<v Speaker 1>spectrum than that. I think that's a part of it.

844
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:47.920
<v Speaker 1>But I mean the violence people see online. I think

845
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:51.440
<v Speaker 1>it's Yeah, it's media. I hate need like a seventy

846
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:54.000
<v Speaker 1>year old man. But I think it's social media. Guys.

847
00:45:54.119 --> 00:45:57.920
<v Speaker 2>It is one hundred percent media. All media is not.

848
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:01.880
<v Speaker 2>All media is bullshit. It's all it is. I don't

849
00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:03.519
<v Speaker 2>care if it's the news, I don't care if you

850
00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:05.800
<v Speaker 2>want to call it a reliable source. I don't think

851
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:08.280
<v Speaker 2>we know half of what's going on in this world.

852
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:10.599
<v Speaker 2>To be honest with you, I think they're always like, look, look,

853
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:13.199
<v Speaker 2>look over here, and they're doing shit over here. I

854
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:15.320
<v Speaker 2>don't think we have a clue. I don't think we're

855
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:18.400
<v Speaker 2>privy to it. And they just tell us a bunch

856
00:46:18.440 --> 00:46:20.760
<v Speaker 2>of stories all the time. You know, shit that's going

857
00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:24.519
<v Speaker 2>on that who knows if it actually exists. I think

858
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:30.119
<v Speaker 2>media is the culprit of like absolutely almost every issue

859
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:34.360
<v Speaker 2>that we really have is media, and we have no regulations,

860
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:39.760
<v Speaker 2>we have no accountability for it. And like, I feel

861
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:42.760
<v Speaker 2>so strongly about this because I cut off. I don't

862
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:45.639
<v Speaker 2>watch TV at all. I cut all that crap off.

863
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:48.800
<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell you because it started veering me from

864
00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:52.079
<v Speaker 2>my belief system that I was raised with. And what

865
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:56.440
<v Speaker 2>I was raised with is came from my environment, my

866
00:46:57.239 --> 00:46:59.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, experiences that I have, which are going to

867
00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:02.800
<v Speaker 2>be total different than yours. It's it's gonna be different,

868
00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:05.880
<v Speaker 2>so you're gonna have a different belief system or things

869
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:09.760
<v Speaker 2>that don't apply to you, you know, may apply to me.

870
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:12.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, if I have a disabled child and you don't,

871
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:14.800
<v Speaker 2>you don't give a shit, you know what I mean?

872
00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:19.039
<v Speaker 2>It just doesn't. That's how your belief system is built.

873
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:21.400
<v Speaker 2>And that's where we don't have a lot of respect

874
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:24.639
<v Speaker 2>for each other of stopping and going wait, they've been

875
00:47:24.679 --> 00:47:27.599
<v Speaker 2>through different shit than I have. There their city or

876
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:30.800
<v Speaker 2>state is different than mine, so we don't have that issue,

877
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:35.079
<v Speaker 2>you know. But it started to change my belief system

878
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:39.000
<v Speaker 2>and it is and it's all it's all bullshit. You

879
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:42.559
<v Speaker 2>try to find something that's legit. We have no legitimate

880
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:45.920
<v Speaker 2>news sources. They're all one side or the other. They're

881
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:49.440
<v Speaker 2>all it's just I hear my I hear certain people

882
00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:53.119
<v Speaker 2>my friends that call me with this experim crap like

883
00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:57.280
<v Speaker 2>it's just I feel sorry. It's like I could see

884
00:47:57.280 --> 00:48:00.760
<v Speaker 2>it eating their brain, like it's it affects and people

885
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:02.639
<v Speaker 2>are going, no, I'm not going to let it affect me.

886
00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:05.519
<v Speaker 2>You don't really have a choice. It has that much

887
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:09.639
<v Speaker 2>power it does. It sways you on what you know

888
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:12.920
<v Speaker 2>is right and wrong or what you believe, and it's

889
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:17.400
<v Speaker 2>it's just I think it's the evil. Yeah. I am media.

890
00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:20.920
<v Speaker 1>So I've done a lot of interviews with the hottest

891
00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:23.559
<v Speaker 1>women in the world, and I have never been harder

892
00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:26.039
<v Speaker 1>than I am right now. As you described how much

893
00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:28.039
<v Speaker 1>you hate the media because I also hate the media.

894
00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:30.639
<v Speaker 1>I think it's propaganda. I think it's been that way

895
00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:31.519
<v Speaker 1>since the fifties.

896
00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, well yeah, yes, probably I am I'm

897
00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:39.639
<v Speaker 2>not that old, thank god, but it's definitely. I didn't

898
00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:45.000
<v Speaker 2>start recognizing it until, like, I had my vehicle stolen

899
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:48.800
<v Speaker 2>from my airport in Denver, and when it was stolen,

900
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:53.840
<v Speaker 2>they were screwing me on every side of this situation,

901
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:57.320
<v Speaker 2>and I was paying everybody. I paid out thousands of

902
00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:00.760
<v Speaker 2>dollars to the parking, to the toe truck man, to

903
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:04.039
<v Speaker 2>the impound, you name it. And I'm like that, like

904
00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:06.559
<v Speaker 2>it was stolen from me. So I go to this

905
00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:10.920
<v Speaker 2>troubleshooter and he ends up telling me, oh, yeah, we're

906
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:12.519
<v Speaker 2>gonna go to all these people. We're gonna knock on

907
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:14.320
<v Speaker 2>their doors, call and be like why are you taking

908
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:16.440
<v Speaker 2>money from this victim? You know this? And that. I'm

909
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:19.679
<v Speaker 2>like cool, Like even the police, what did you do?

910
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:21.559
<v Speaker 2>You could have put it in the police impound, but

911
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:24.000
<v Speaker 2>instead you let it sit like you let a private

912
00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:27.320
<v Speaker 2>person take it. It would have been free. So anyways, and

913
00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:29.280
<v Speaker 2>he ends up doing this news story. I'm like, yeah,

914
00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:32.400
<v Speaker 2>let's get him, let's get him. And then he played

915
00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:35.199
<v Speaker 2>it on the news, and I sat there just absolutely

916
00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:39.519
<v Speaker 2>like dumbfounded that it was about. He ended up dubbing,

917
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:42.599
<v Speaker 2>in my words, to two years ago a law that

918
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:46.039
<v Speaker 2>didn't pass that I know nothing about. I never mentioned it.

919
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:48.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, and he was like talking about that,

920
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:52.480
<v Speaker 2>and then I would make a comment that would it

921
00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:54.920
<v Speaker 2>would be like yeah, you know as a victim, Da

922
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:58.199
<v Speaker 2>da da da dah. And I was like, this man

923
00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:00.800
<v Speaker 2>stood in front of my face, supposed to be the

924
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:04.880
<v Speaker 2>trouble the truth finder, the trouble shooter. And that's when

925
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:09.519
<v Speaker 2>I really understood the depth of how bad the media

926
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:13.519
<v Speaker 2>is because I had nothing to do with that law.

927
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:16.119
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even live in the state at that time. Like,

928
00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:18.079
<v Speaker 2>what are you talking about?

929
00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Wherever you are politically? To anybody, just fake news is

930
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:25.039
<v Speaker 1>a thing. Yeah, okay, it has been.

931
00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:27.760
<v Speaker 2>It's all of them. It's I mean, it's supposed to

932
00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:29.800
<v Speaker 2>go help me, Like I thought this, you know, you

933
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:32.480
<v Speaker 2>got the troubleshooter on it, and he's gonna go and

934
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:34.360
<v Speaker 2>ring ring ring, What do you do you know? And

935
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:39.360
<v Speaker 2>it's like this man totally took my story and it

936
00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:42.000
<v Speaker 2>had nothing to do with helping me. It had nothing

937
00:50:42.039 --> 00:50:43.880
<v Speaker 2>to do with my story it had to do with

938
00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:48.360
<v Speaker 2>the law that was that didn't path. It's just ridiculous,

939
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, and it's like, why did you sit there

940
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:53.519
<v Speaker 2>and bullshit me? Why didn't you just tell me that's

941
00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:55.800
<v Speaker 2>what it was about? Like why didn't we just do that?

942
00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:58.119
<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, oh, at least I could read the law.

943
00:50:58.280 --> 00:51:03.679
<v Speaker 2>So anyways, And that's when I really realized how bad

944
00:51:03.719 --> 00:51:04.119
<v Speaker 2>it was.

945
00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Like it's bad, yeah, but I'm not gonna I won't

946
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:09.760
<v Speaker 1>bring up mine on here because it's too political. But

947
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:12.079
<v Speaker 1>it was a political thing where I was like, that's

948
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:15.280
<v Speaker 1>not that. I know it's not that, and yet I'm

949
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:17.400
<v Speaker 1>being told this is that and it's.

950
00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:21.320
<v Speaker 2>Not and yeah, and they literally I mean not to

951
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:23.480
<v Speaker 2>get too far into it, but like Trump is such

952
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:27.360
<v Speaker 2>a performer, like he is an absolute stage show. Like

953
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:31.599
<v Speaker 2>he is he's one of like best performers there is,

954
00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:34.199
<v Speaker 2>because all he does is does a dance over here.

955
00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:37.639
<v Speaker 2>Everybody looks at it that way watch him do. He's

956
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:40.400
<v Speaker 2>such a horrible dancer. He's this and that and and

957
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:43.159
<v Speaker 2>they're really over here doing ten other things and he's

958
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:47.159
<v Speaker 2>the performer. And it's like we're just so sucked into

959
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:50.119
<v Speaker 2>it and it's damaging it's it's done a lot of

960
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:53.159
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of damage to our family units

961
00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:56.960
<v Speaker 2>are side. It's just gone as shit, maybe, and I

962
00:51:57.039 --> 00:51:59.679
<v Speaker 2>contribute to it in more ways than one. So I'm

963
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:02.519
<v Speaker 2>not try trying to say that I am, by any

964
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:03.760
<v Speaker 2>means not a contributor.

965
00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I am, you know what the can I can I

966
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:07.920
<v Speaker 1>try and give you a little cover on that one there,

967
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:11.320
<v Speaker 1>because yeah, it doesn't sound like it doesn't sound like

968
00:52:11.360 --> 00:52:16.199
<v Speaker 1>you produce stuff. That would, you know, disgust me from

969
00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:19.320
<v Speaker 1>a twenty twenty five sensibility. It sounds like you produce stuff,

970
00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:21.159
<v Speaker 1>or you want to produce stuff, or you like being

971
00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:24.119
<v Speaker 1>a part of stuff. That's more of the you know,

972
00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:26.199
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and four, when I was sneaking into

973
00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:31.199
<v Speaker 1>a used trade a tape fucking DVD shops so whatever

974
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:33.440
<v Speaker 1>lady would sell me at it for when I was

975
00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:37.119
<v Speaker 1>sixteen years old or whatever. Jesus, you know we shouldn't

976
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:38.679
<v Speaker 1>say that, but yeah, she works at a Walmart now.

977
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:41.280
<v Speaker 1>She hassled me a couple of weeks ago anyway about

978
00:52:41.320 --> 00:52:46.800
<v Speaker 1>a receipt. I don't I personally. I'll just say this

979
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:48.840
<v Speaker 1>and you can feel however you want to feel from

980
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:51.400
<v Speaker 1>the outside perspective. You sound like you don't delve into

981
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:53.679
<v Speaker 1>the stuff, that he's pushing it too far, because there

982
00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:56.760
<v Speaker 1>has been for a long time. You know how many.

983
00:52:56.559 --> 00:52:59.039
<v Speaker 2>People are against what the mommy role play.

984
00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:02.639
<v Speaker 1>Okay, maybe that yes me, so see.

985
00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:04.840
<v Speaker 2>How you say that. And at the flip side, no,

986
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:08.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm actually diving into these people don't understand it, which

987
00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:13.719
<v Speaker 2>is fair. But I do dive into that very much so.

988
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:17.639
<v Speaker 2>But your perception is not necessarily that. So I do

989
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:19.519
<v Speaker 2>talk out of both sides of my face when it

990
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:22.480
<v Speaker 2>comes to that. And I really don't have an excuse

991
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:28.679
<v Speaker 2>for uh saying it's bad and then doing exactly what's

992
00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:33.000
<v Speaker 2>bad in my in my own belief system, I don't

993
00:53:33.079 --> 00:53:36.880
<v Speaker 2>justify it. I'm just a character over here and I'm

994
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:40.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't just I don't think there is a justification

995
00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:45.440
<v Speaker 2>for it. I guess I believe, not believe. But it's

996
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:49.559
<v Speaker 2>done me in my world and my family more than

997
00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:54.480
<v Speaker 2>I could ever ever ask for. So I'm good with that.

998
00:53:55.079 --> 00:53:57.239
<v Speaker 2>It sits well with me. I fucked up in life.

999
00:53:57.280 --> 00:53:59.280
<v Speaker 2>I didn't go to college right away. I had kids

1000
00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:02.880
<v Speaker 2>to you early, like all that stuff, and it's just

1001
00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:07.320
<v Speaker 2>it's done. It picked up the pieces where I desperately

1002
00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:12.840
<v Speaker 2>needed pieces picked up. So it's it's done me right

1003
00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:18.199
<v Speaker 2>in so many ways that I'll gladly contribute to it

1004
00:54:18.199 --> 00:54:23.199
<v Speaker 2>because it's going on anyways, and I have to block

1005
00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:25.280
<v Speaker 2>that out of my mind. I have to just block

1006
00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:28.639
<v Speaker 2>out the fact that it's not necessarily something I think

1007
00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:29.159
<v Speaker 2>is good.

1008
00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:38.519
<v Speaker 1>Hey, I can respect while I yeah, right, I can

1009
00:54:38.639 --> 00:54:41.119
<v Speaker 1>respect though taking a step back and realizing it because

1010
00:54:41.119 --> 00:54:43.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing it too. I'm having conversations and I'm not

1011
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:46.760
<v Speaker 1>producing porn porn, but I'm you know, I'm engaging in

1012
00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:47.320
<v Speaker 1>the community.

1013
00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:48.800
<v Speaker 2>I just glorifying it.

1014
00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:52.679
<v Speaker 1>I am to an extent, But conversations like this, deep

1015
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:56.239
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, which I rarely get, is a great insight.

1016
00:54:56.400 --> 00:54:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this one last question. Then we've

1017
00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:00.599
<v Speaker 1>really got to wrap this up, okay, because I've been

1018
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:03.679
<v Speaker 1>asking performers this for a long time and it's so

1019
00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:07.000
<v Speaker 1>interesting to response because it old piggisback, piggybacks on what

1020
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:10.239
<v Speaker 1>we just said there. What should be the age that

1021
00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:12.320
<v Speaker 1>a girl is allowed to get into porn?

1022
00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Definitely twenty one to twenty five eighty. You shouldn't be

1023
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:19.559
<v Speaker 2>able to not go to the bar or drink at

1024
00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:23.079
<v Speaker 2>the event that you're naked at I think that's so

1025
00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:27.119
<v Speaker 2>it's bizarre that it's that way. But I definitely believe

1026
00:55:27.159 --> 00:55:28.280
<v Speaker 2>twenty one and older.

1027
00:55:28.239 --> 00:55:30.800
<v Speaker 1>That every performer I've talked to has come to eat

1028
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:34.239
<v Speaker 1>by far. Girls who got in at eighteen, who oh yeah,

1029
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I see them now and they go, yeah, twenty they

1030
00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:39.519
<v Speaker 1>I believe they would twenty one is what kind of

1031
00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:42.079
<v Speaker 1>the general thing. But we also have the argument, not argument,

1032
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:44.400
<v Speaker 1>but a discussion that there are some eighteen year olds

1033
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:46.920
<v Speaker 1>who are so much more mature than some forty year olds.

1034
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:50.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not about maturity, though, it's about your brain is

1035
00:55:50.039 --> 00:55:53.320
<v Speaker 2>not developed at a level that can handle the seriousness

1036
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<v Speaker 2>of what you're doing. Sure, it's just not it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's too your brain's still grown. Yes, why you don't

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<v Speaker 2>put alcohol in into it? And so it's done growing? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>but we can send you to war. That's that's a

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<v Speaker 2>killer too. That's a killer. I that one I can't yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>yees yeah now yeah. So definitely above twenty one, I

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<v Speaker 2>would say twenty five, I think you need more, even

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<v Speaker 2>more growth than you do with alcohol, even though alcohols

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<v Speaker 2>the double two. But you know, alcohol media orn you know,

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<v Speaker 2>totally fair going to him, I'm going.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes for the evening.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been great.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure you hit up the of at Lily Craven

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<v Speaker 1>and follow all the social media in the episode description,

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<v Speaker 1>bare minimum you could do is follow these folks on

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<v Speaker 1>social media. It cost you nothing. You might as well

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<v Speaker 1>throw it out there. Yeah, step, paycheck came in. You're

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<v Speaker 1>feeling good. Wow, I got a little bit of money.

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<v Speaker 1>Head over to the of Yes, you know. Just engage

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<v Speaker 1>with these people, the performers. They perform for you, make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you support them on the back end. Lily, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for your time this evening.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, This has been awesome.