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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to GV side Quest. This is our

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weekly video game show here at Get First. I'm your host,

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Phil Mussina with me the nicknameless Taylor Field. How are

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you doing my friend? I'll say this the tailor of

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the Solar Empire?

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Speaker 2: How are you doing here? And I love it? I

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love it. I'm doing good. I can't believe I forgot

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my nickname. Unbelievable. I'm doing good. I'm happy to be here,

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happy to talk shop with you, Yes, very much, talking shop.

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I feel like we have a lot of fun mini

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topics today, so I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how this goes. We have a lot of

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little things to discuss, but I want to kick it

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off right off the get go here talking about some

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Ubi soft. Are you ready to talk some ub soft stuff? Taylor?

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And I feel like that's your soft, that's your main domain.

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First off, Star Wars I loves. Have you played any

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more of that?

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Speaker 2: Are you?

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Speaker 1: How is that going? Or have you just after the review?

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Were you good and put it aside?

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Speaker 2: I haven't put it aside. I've tried to play it,

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but I've been like on the the recap recoup of

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from Being six. So it's been hard. Like I tried

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playing once and I just passed right out. Just it's

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a point where you like you wake up after like

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you pass out and you're like you're looking at the

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sky and you're walking against a wall of a building.

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And yeah. So I haven't been able to properly deep

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dive into it again, so I'm still exploring tatoweine.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough. Next, then, I know that you

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with the Ubisoft Plus subscription have been jumping into a

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little avatar Frontiers of Pandora, and I am very excited

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to hear how that experience has been going for you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that has been really really enjoyable. Actually, I'm liking

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the game a lot more than I thought I would.

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I'm glad I didn't buy it. I'm playing it through

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you'bi Soft Plus. So it's turning out just to be

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quite quite a fun experience. Now there's different different elements

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of your skillsure you can focus on, where like you

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have survivability and like there's different things in the world

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like plants that can harm you, and you have to

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hunt wildlife and you have to keep your stamma up

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and keep eating food and whatnot. So you can do cooking.

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There's a whole bunch of different things in there that

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kind of make that that RPG kind of feel. And

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I wasn't sure how I was going to feel about

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it being first person, but I actually really like it.

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And it's fun just to be kind of like moving

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around and you just get your bow and arrow and

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you're shooting bad guys or shooting humans and whatnot, and

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just kind of going through the world. The world is beautiful,

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really really love it, especially when it gets to be nighttime.

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Oh my goodness, it's just gorgeous. And so when you

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go into certain areas that are more human occupied, certain

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things that are maybe a building that's really outputting a

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lot of gas or fuel and whatnot in the area,

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like the vegetation just decays around you and it looks

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more like more just more gross and industrialized. And so

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once you clear that area, then the once you, I guess,

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destroy the compound, then the natural beauty starts to retake

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the area, which is kind of nice.

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Speaker 1: That's a really cool detail.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's it's a lot of fun. And

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I would love to I have to get to the

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point where I can fly my acron because I want

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to be flying around, but I'm not there yet. I

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haven't been able to mount anything so far. I've just

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been going around hunting and doing little missions. But yeah,

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it's a it's a beautiful game.

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Speaker 1: I also jumped into this game and played for about

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an hour. Uh for My first impression was, man, we're

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in this facility for a long time, because at the

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start of this game, you are in novie who has

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been I don't know if imprisoned is the right world,

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but probably like tricked into like believing that where you're

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living is just where you're living. But then you you,

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you and your crew. I honestly, it skipped a lot

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of the cutting, so I don't know exactly what happened,

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because there was cutting after cutting after cutting, but you

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and your crew like break out of this place and

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then just the escape sequence out of the facility takes

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so much longer than I feel like any other game

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would do for that sequence. I don't think maybe they

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really wanted you to build up for that moment where

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you're actually in Pandora. But yeah, I just I was

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shocked at how many events and walls and doors and

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random stuff I had to go through. You know, it

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is the tutorial stuff. It's like, here's how to crouch,

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here's how to do a long jump, and so it's

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it makes sense that it's doing some of that stuff,

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but that was the first thing that was striking to

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me about it. But then I totally agree with you.

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As soon as I was out in Pandora, I was like,

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holy shit, this game is one of the best looking

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games just in terms of visual fidelity that I've ever

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seen and just like really popping color. I was really impressed,

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and even just like the amount of stuff, the amount

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of foliage and that you're if you walk through you know,

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different flowers and stuff, like it will brush against you

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like you're pushing it around, and like the physics of

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that is also very satisfying. So it felt like immediately

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I was like, man, this is a very living, breathing place,

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like with the plant life and the humans and the

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animals and all that, and so I was I was

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very impressed right off the bat in terms of just

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the visuals of it, and like even the game feel

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of it, like felt pretty good to move around. And yeah,

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I was much like everyone else, they kind of surprised

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that they went first person with this game, but I

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think that does make it a lot more immersive. Typically,

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like I've been playing a lot of third person games

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without Star Wars or Eldering, which I'll talk about in

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a little bit, But like when I'm playing a third

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person game for a few hours and then I hop

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into a first person one, I feel like I'm just WHOA.

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I'm like, immediately right back there. You kind of don't

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notice if you're you know, on different nights, switching between things,

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but going like back and forth. I was there in

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Pandora for a little R and R.

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Speaker 2: I was right, I love it. I'm glad you have

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to try it out. That's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I don't, so I'll explain why I only played

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for an hour. So I get out of this tutorial sequence,

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I meet up with my friend there, and then the

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next quest is like go this waterfall or something. It's

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like go up to this building, up on this waterfall. Here,

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it's like climb this mountain, get to this waterfall. I'm like, okay,

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I kind of like how open this is. Like I

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don't have like a line on the ground that's telling

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me exactly how to do it. So I'm looking around

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and I see these these cliff faces, and I'm like,

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you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna try my best

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to climb up this mountain. And I went some like

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wild route. I was using that like thing where you

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can kind of connect to that tentacle thing coming under

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the tree and like zip up to the top like

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a little zip line, and I was climbing around rocks.

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because I'm like, this is not intentional route, but I'm

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finding my own way and it's very satisfying, very cool.

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And I was climbing for probably ten fifty minutes. It's

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a fucking huge mountain. And at some point it's like

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you have ten seconds to return to the game area

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and I'm like, oh no, it's like you have to

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return to the quest. I'm like, what are you talking about.

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You told me to climb this fucking mountain. So I

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went and climbed this mountain, and so I tried my

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dartness to get back to where it was acceptable, but

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none of it was acceptable. It kicked me back to

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a save from like a while ago, and I was

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nowhere near the mountain anymore. So I had to like

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re track all the where I'm like, if this game,

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like I don't know what I was supposed to do

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here clearly was not that Like how did this possibility

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not cross the developer's way and like play testing or something.

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but that really bothered me. So I don't know. I

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definitely want to get back in there and like spend

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a few more hours with it because I feel like

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I really only got like the most babyest of steps

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in there. But yeah, that was very frustrating. Is that

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something that you found in like that hours you've played,

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like just weird things where it's like it wants you

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to do a specific thing even though it's an open

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world game and it's like targeting. It's like really just

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hampering the experience if you try and get creative or

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do something out of the box.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember what the context was, but I did

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have that exact same thing happen in another quest where

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I was doing something or going somewhere and yet prompted

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me like returned the quest area and I managed to

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get back into it, So that was all okay. Hopefully

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it didn't it didn't put you back in like the

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comp the prologue or anything. Did it.

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Speaker 1: No, just put me back to where the guy was

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like sitting on the tree when he was like leaping

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out there kind of. So you know, it's not a

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super far walk, but it was enough. That was at

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least for that night. I was like, I'm done with

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Pandora for this evening. Yeah, and I'll call back to it.

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So I think I will, I mean my Ubi self

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subscription at last for like another week or two, so

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I have a little bit more time to jump in there.

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Definitely not what I'm gonna be, uh making the purchase

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after my initial hour with it, but uh, for sure

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I was. I was impressed with it, honestly, other than

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that annoying thing that happened.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Fun fact for you is kind of drifting off

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the Pandora train, the uh the Scull and Bones beta.

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You remember we dipped our toes into that. I could

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never forget it too, that I never forget Well, I thought,

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you know, I'm gonna download this as well. I downloaded

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it and I booted it up, and it actually carried

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over everything from the beta. My character was the same.

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Look at all my stuff, my ships, everything like that.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not diving back to this calling Bone that was

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a one and done for me. There are too many

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games on this ub self plus offering for me to

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jump backto a game that I played for two hours

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and I hated like almost every second of it. I

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would happily jump back into Pandora for another few hours.

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Then I would call them Bone, So I don't I

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won't be joining you on the open seas there, unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: That's fair.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, have you played like a few more hours. Ever,

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you kind of just jump back in just to see

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if your save was still there.

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Speaker 2: I I was not expecting my safe to still be there,

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so I jumped back in while I was waiting for

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Outlaws to download. And yeah, when I saw my character

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was still there and everything, I thought, okay, this is

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super cool. So I went in. Because I have two ships,

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I took my ship. That's kind of you can go

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into more of the heavier waters though taking damage, and

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so I went in there and went really far out

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and I tried. I kind of got in and over

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my head a little bit because there were some ships

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that I attacked. And then this whole fucking fleet came

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down on me and I was like panic fleeing out

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of the area. So it was a little bit chaotic.

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But I think they're on their third sea writing. I

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think that's a third it's like a huge, like I

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think Chinese dragon style kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: I think I've seen some screenshots of that a while ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so I haven't gone back in since, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The other thing I downloaded through that service is

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far Cry Primal, which is one that I've wanted to

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play for years. I've had it on my wishles forever.

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Have you played that one? And I feel like that's

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Speaker 2: Never played it, but it's up my alley for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I it's weird, like far Cry is a

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mixed bag for me, Like I really like two back

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they've all been on game Pass at different points, so

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even before having UBISLF plus, I was still able to

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jump in and check them out, and I played for

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like maybe three or four hours of each one, and

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just it was just not really my flavor of open

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world game. And I don't know why that is exactly,

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but Farcry Primal has always stood out to me just

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because of the drasticly drastically different setting to it, of course,

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and honestly, like in playing in the first few hours,

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it feels way different than any of those other games,

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but like in terms of gameplay, like it is open world.

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the skill tree stuff is from those games, but really

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it's just like very surface level things seem to be

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the crossover there. Even the story is a lot less

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heavy handed because it's just like cavemen grunting, you know about,

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like gathering land and saving each other. So it's much

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more basic in that way. But I had I had

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a very weird issue with this once alas time you've

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played Oblivion. Have you played that in like last few years,

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last probably five years? Okay, I don't know if I'm

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guessing you. When you wherever you own Oblivion, you have

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some of the DLCs or maybe all the DLC's you

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got the definitive. So you know, when you like play

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Oblivion and you get out of the sewer area, and

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then for the next like ten to fifteen minutes, it's

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just a barrage of like DLC updates of things that

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were added to the game, of like oh, you've unlocked

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a key to Frost Craig manor so here's here's the

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and then you exited that and then like another prompt

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comes up. It's like, oh, here's this other dealc oh

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a strange door in the nip and bay, and just

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like this on someone's like, come on, guys, you really

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like this makes sense if you're playing all these DLCs

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at release, you know, every time you log in, ooh

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with a new one, new pop up. But it's like

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one of those things that just the kind of overlooked

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what like the new player experience would be. Like I

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kind of had a similar thing with far Cry Primal,

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where I was going through the tutorial area and you're

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essentially hunting a mammoth with your crew of buddies, and

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so you know, it's teaching to like crouch and like

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sneak and not make too much noise and throw your weapons.

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what buttons are, and it's not actually telling you what

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to do, it's not telling you where to go, and

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it's like it's somewhat open area, like I'm sure you

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could stray off the path there, and I was like

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really confused by this. I mean, I could figure it out,

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it is basic enough. But then I got into this

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other little zone and that was like a very small

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open world area, like very much like trying to teach

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you a few things before it lets you go any further,

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and I was like, I don't even know what to do.

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I don't have any store of quest marker. I'm very

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confused here. Then I also saw in the settings there

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was a Survivor survival mode, which I honestly sounds a

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lot like what you were describing with Avatar there where

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it's like very much about hunting and like the mechanics

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are much more hardcore. You know, you can die and

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like respawn. But I didn't pick it at first. I'm like,

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maybe I should get used to the game. But then

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I actually restarted, like within the first ten fifteen minutes

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of the game because I was like, I actually think

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that seems kind of fun to try the survival mechanics

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an a game like this, And so I restarted the

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game and then none of those prompts were there anymore,

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and so now the actual tutorial was happening where it

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was telling me the buttons, it was telling me where

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to go, and I'm like, once again, how does this

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kind of oversight happen where like this DLC shit is

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just being shoved down your throat and you can't actually

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get through the opening, you know, ten fifteen minutes of

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the game properly without this happening. So once that happened,

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I got back to the area, and then it was

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like actually telling me I was supposed to make arrows

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and hunt these beasts and I could Okay, I can

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do that, and then I can progress. So it made

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a lot of sense from there, but just one of

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those things that was very weird. It felt very out

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of time. You know, the game is a few years old,

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and that feels like something that would not happen in

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like a new twenty twenty four game with like all

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the DLC. It feels like they would integrate that a

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bit better into your game experience. But other than that,

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it's it's been a fun, fun time so far. Since

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I am playing on this this higher difficulty, it's pretty difficult,

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Like I die really really quick. I have no upgrades

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for my character yet, so I really have to be

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sneaking around, whether it's animals or like other you know,

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crazy cavemen that are after me and stuff. But so far,

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I'm really enjoying it. It's it's nice visually as well.

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It's definitely a downgrade from Avatar, you know, playing like

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a lush jungle setting like that and then playing far

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Cry Primals much more. You know, the colors are much

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more paler, the way less detail, it's a little more janky,

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which of course it's years and years old at this point.

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But I've really enjoyed the first couple hours of it

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there and definitely plan to play more of that. So

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that's definitely one you should check out if you. I know,

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you have a ton of games on your play right now,

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especially with that Ubi self subscription, and I don't know

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how if you're planning on renewing that or if you're

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just getting a one month, but.

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Speaker 2: Oh I will all do another month.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you'll get it again when well, are you

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gonna buy the new Assassin's Creed. Are you just going

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to play it through the subscription.

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Speaker 2: That I'm I'm going to buy at? This is just

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I can't say no. It's beautiful. It has been a

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fan called title for so long.

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Speaker 1: You've been waiting for this for a long time.

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Speaker 2: I've waited for this one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that makes sense. But yeah, whenever you have

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some time, definitely check out Primal. I would love to

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hear what you think. And I'm sure there's more. I mean,

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it's not like cryptid stuff, but you know, like mammets

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and saber to It's like all these extinct creatures which

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I think you would have fun hanging around with. I

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don't think there's like dinosaurs in the game, but maybe

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there's like some dinosaur type stuff that pops up later on.

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I'm not sure. I swear Far.

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Speaker 2: Cry has put things like cryptids in there. I thought

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Far Cry four had like yetties in there, Yeah, the

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Valley Valley of the Yetties, and they appear in the

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far Car five DLCs zombie yetties on Dead Living Zombies. Yes,

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they've done a lot of fun stuff in Far Cry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they definitely have some wild DLC's for some

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of their games as well. I don't know what are

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really the DLC of things for Primal specifically, but I

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don't know. I'm not nearly deep enough in the game

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to want to check out that stuff yet. But yeah,

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that that's been a fun time. I speaking of Assasin' Screed,

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I had two questions for you. One, when I was

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browsing this Ubisoft Plus catalog, I saw these Assassin's Creed

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Chronicles games. There's China, India, and Russia. Have you played

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those or do you know what's going on with them?

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I just I feel like I've never heard about them

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until I was browsing through that catalog.

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Speaker 2: I think I have them all on Steam and my

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Epic Games account because they've been all made free at

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some point. I also think I have them all through

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Games the Gold Ah, because I'm I'm aware of who

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the main characters are. Let me just pulling up your

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second just look at it, because I'm pretty sure they're

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like side scrolling games.

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Speaker 1: Okay, would they be kind of akin to like the

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Old Prince of Persia or even like, you know, the

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New Prince Persia. They just came out like, is that

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kind of what the idea with it was from the

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ub Soft.

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Speaker 2: I would say, so, I don't. I just don't have enough,

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like my own personal experience to talk too much about

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what the gameplay is like, Like, I don't know if

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you can see this photo here? Yeah, like yeah, character

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side scroll, moving around, jumping around. This is the Russia version.

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And they all kind of came out within the same

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period of time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Like were these phone games too, or were they

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just console things? They were consoles, were handheld games or

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something like a Vita Vita type situation. Maybe a Vita

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would have been more like what did they do?

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Speaker 2: They did one for the Vita. I'm pretty sure they

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did Assassin's Creed Liberation. I think that was Assassin's Creed

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three Liberation. I think that was the Vita one, and

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then I came out on Steam.

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Speaker 1: Uh, why is it that you haven't checked these games out?

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They just don't draw to you in the same way

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that the third person action does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't necessarily draw me in like the other

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main ones. I like, I have an interest to eventually

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get around to these, but I don't know if I

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ever ever will I have one. I have to actually

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Assassin's Creed two Discovery for Nintendo DS and Assassin's Creed

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Alta Hair's Chronicles for DS. Those are some handhelds.

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Speaker 1: Like essentially like a downgrade port from like the main

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mainline games that could run.

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Speaker 2: I'd say so, they're they're their own stories, but they're

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definitely downgrades my opinion, but they're still kind of cool.

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There's also Bloodlines that was for the PlayStation portable back

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in the day, Assassin's Creed blood Lines, and that one

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is actually pretty neat. That's definitely a downscale one, but

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it's yeah, it's it's it's neat.

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Speaker 1: That's cool. And I'm thinking with with with ac there's

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Assassin's Creed Jade, which I think is that out now

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or is that still to be released.

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Speaker 2: That's like the mobile one, right, that's the full like

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this is like a full on main game, but for mobile. Yeah.

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I signed up for the beta for that but never

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got into it.

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Speaker 1: Right, And that one's set in China, I believe, right, Yes,

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and then India or Russia have been locations in any

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of the mainline games or other games that you've heard.

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Speaker 2: Of, Uh No, not that I'm aware of.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. I just feel like that would have been an

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interesting poll, maybe just having these different locations. But yeah,

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if it feels like kind of a lesser spinoff game,

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I can see why the allure isn't quite there. But

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I was surprised when I was just looking at the Wikipedia,

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like how many spinoffs for Assassin's Creed there were. I

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didn't realize there was that many, considering they're like pumping

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out games on a yearly basis for all those years.

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But it seems like and even in some of those years,

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I guess there would have been two or more games,

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just if you include the spinoffs as well, which is

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which is pretty crazy. But I think they finally settled

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down to like a good spot in terms of their

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release calendar. It's a little less bombardment, a little more

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quality focused, maybe.

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Speaker 2: I'd say so Jade looks like it's being pushed to

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twenty twenty five. I think there's a lot of people

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that are kind of upset that they're getting an Assassin's

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Creed China released on mobile. But at the end of

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the day, I mean, mobile gaming is not what it

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used to be. People kind of have this negative connotation

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of associating like like I don't know, floppy bird or

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angry birds or like that mobile games, all.

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Speaker 1: These goddamn birds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very different now you're playing like full on,

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like I remember I was. I was playing Halo five

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on my phone like months and months and months ago,

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just to try it out. But it's incredible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is pretty crazy. And then the other thing

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I was gonna ask you about is and forget me

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if I did ask you about this already, but I

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had it in my notes from like months ago, and

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I just forgot about it and then I saw it.

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I still I didn't cross it out, So I'm guessing

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I didn't ask you. Assassin's Creed Odyssey and the story mode?

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Did I ask you about that? Like that DLC story

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mode thing?

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Speaker 2: No, you didn't ask Do.

474
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 1: You know what that is? Have you looked into that

475
00:20:40,279 --> 00:20:44,400
at all? Is it ringing a bell? It was essentially

476
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,480
a thing that people community members could like make stories,

477
00:20:48,519 --> 00:20:51,759
like make missions and things that were like within the game,

478
00:20:52,319 --> 00:20:54,880
and they could like scrip to different interactions. And I

479
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,319
don't know how much they could build in terms of

480
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,119
like actual world stuff or it was, or how it

481
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,400
was integrated.

482
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 2: Quest creation tool stories. That's pretty neat. I did not

483
00:21:06,039 --> 00:21:06,640
know about this.

484
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you should definitely look into that at some point.

485
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,720
I'd love to hear like if it's any good, if

486
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,599
people made any you know, any thing that the community

487
00:21:14,599 --> 00:21:16,240
looks at as like, wow, that was a really great

488
00:21:16,279 --> 00:21:18,519
story that you have to play, because I don't know

489
00:21:18,519 --> 00:21:20,160
what the capabilities of it were in terms of like

490
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,559
the custom tool set to it. But I thought that

491
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,079
was a cool thing that I just didn't even know

492
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,039
about until recently.

493
00:21:25,559 --> 00:21:28,079
Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, it's fun and people are talking about it.

494
00:21:28,079 --> 00:21:30,359
I didn't realize this came out like five years ago.

495
00:21:30,599 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 1: Holy cranky. Yeah, I guess it was some expansion on odyesty,

496
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,519
Like I don't think it was in there at launch, right,

497
00:21:37,799 --> 00:21:39,400
But yeah, it's weird, Like I don't from what I know,

498
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,319
I don't think they've done that with any other Assassin's

499
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,599
Creed games. That maybe is the first time they did

500
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,400
that sort of thing. I don't know how successful that was.

501
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,799
Speaker 2: Probably is the first time that they're doing it. And

502
00:21:48,839 --> 00:21:51,279
it's funny because Ruben sent me snapchats the other day

503
00:21:51,319 --> 00:21:53,759
he was playing. He's I think he's a big Odyssey guy.

504
00:21:54,079 --> 00:21:55,480
He's still in it, in it to.

505
00:21:55,519 --> 00:21:59,039
Speaker 1: Win it, which those endless games, I feel like you

506
00:21:59,039 --> 00:21:59,680
can just put.

507
00:22:01,039 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be I'm be swoozing him into a

508
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,519
geek's creed. In the future, we'll see.

509
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'd love to have him on Side Quest.

510
00:22:08,599 --> 00:22:08,839
Speaker 2: Do you have?

511
00:22:09,599 --> 00:22:12,319
Speaker 1: That's the freedom you shouldn't because I should want to

512
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:12,880
get him.

513
00:22:13,839 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 2: You should get him as a guest on side Quest

514
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,079
for sure. He's he's got lots of games on the go, right.

515
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 1: I'll tell has to tone down the puns though, because

516
00:22:21,039 --> 00:22:30,119
it's uh, I'm just being bombarded over lastly, last ubi

517
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,240
self thing for me, where's your hype level for Shadows

518
00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:34,880
right now? Scale of one to ten.

519
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 2: H my hype level it's high. But at the same time,

520
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,440
I feel overwhelmed because I want to be able to

521
00:22:45,599 --> 00:22:48,920
fully experience such like open world games. But it's I

522
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,240
feel like I have so much on the go and

523
00:22:50,279 --> 00:22:53,680
it's so difficult for me to really commit to it.

524
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,359
And when I look at Shadows, I know this is

525
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:56,799
gonna be a beautiful game, It's going to be a

526
00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:01,519
huge game, and it's got so much going on, I think, God, Oh,

527
00:23:01,559 --> 00:23:04,000
that's that's where it feels kind of like almost negative

528
00:23:04,039 --> 00:23:07,759
for me. But that's my own that's my way of life.

529
00:23:07,799 --> 00:23:10,799
You know, just gotta make time. Whatever that being said,

530
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,960
everything that I've seen with this game looks beautiful. It

531
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,200
looks wonderful, and my hype to play this game and

532
00:23:16,279 --> 00:23:19,160
be in this world is through the roof. It's just

533
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,880
gonna be a dang good time.

534
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: So are you out of a ten out of ten

535
00:23:23,559 --> 00:23:25,319
or is it a nine just because of you know,

536
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,720
the time commitment on these open world AC games is

537
00:23:28,799 --> 00:23:29,680
just so intense.

538
00:23:30,839 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 2: Well, I'd go nine out of ten just because of

539
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,920
the commitment that you need to commit to a game

540
00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:41,359
like this. But it's not gonna degrade my I'm still

541
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,720
gonna buy this game. I want a physical copy. I

542
00:23:43,759 --> 00:23:45,640
want to play it, and so it's still up there

543
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:45,920
for me.

544
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I yeah. Like I said, I'm definitely planning on

545
00:23:50,599 --> 00:23:53,279
describing to yourself plus again when that comes out and

546
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,200
jumping in with you. So yeah, I'm excited to do that.

547
00:23:57,279 --> 00:23:59,039
It's been a while since I've played Ghost of Tsushima.

548
00:23:59,079 --> 00:24:01,559
I'm looking looking for to do some just stealth action

549
00:24:01,759 --> 00:24:03,599
in there. Well mostly the stealth. I don't care much

550
00:24:03,599 --> 00:24:05,319
for the action part, but I just want to sneak

551
00:24:05,319 --> 00:24:09,200
around some basses, you know, knock some enemies out, that

552
00:24:09,319 --> 00:24:12,359
kind of thing. I'm looking forward to that, so should

553
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:17,039
be a good time. Let's see what other I have

554
00:24:17,079 --> 00:24:18,839
one other game that I want to shout out here

555
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,119
in the games've been playing sort of section which is that, yeah,

556
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,599
I mentioned earlier, like Eldon Ring, I've been back into

557
00:24:24,799 --> 00:24:27,640
Elden Ring Shadows of the Ur Tree DLC. I haven't

558
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,440
played it probably since like mid July, so it's been

559
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,039
a little bit here. I don't even know why I

560
00:24:34,079 --> 00:24:35,839
fell off of it when I did, but I just

561
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,960
did for whatever reason. And I gotta say it, man,

562
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,240
when I jump back in here, I was so lost

563
00:24:40,319 --> 00:24:43,519
because the last time I played this Sarah's was at

564
00:24:43,519 --> 00:24:46,960
my house and he was playing on my characters save

565
00:24:47,519 --> 00:24:48,839
he was just playing for a few hours. He just

566
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,359
wanted to try the DLC out And so when I

567
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,599
immediately jump in, first of all, he plays inverted camera,

568
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,640
so my camera's fucked up. My character is completely naked.

569
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,559
All he's got is a loin claw, then a fucking

570
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,680
witch's hat that with like a blindfold on. And then

571
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,000
I'm in this building that I've never seen before, like

572
00:25:06,039 --> 00:25:07,720
maybe maybe I was out of the room when he

573
00:25:07,759 --> 00:25:10,200
was playing this particular section at my house, and there's

574
00:25:10,279 --> 00:25:11,960
kind of like I can go I can jump down

575
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,759
into a lower area, I can go out this like elevator,

576
00:25:14,839 --> 00:25:16,079
I can go down the hall, or and go up

577
00:25:16,079 --> 00:25:18,240
this ladder. So immediately it's like this is too much choice,

578
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,240
Like I need like a linear hallway. I have four

579
00:25:20,279 --> 00:25:23,319
options here, and there are collectibles in all four directions.

580
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,359
So I'm like, either SAYRS was just not picking things

581
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,039
up because he didn't want to do that on my save,

582
00:25:27,599 --> 00:25:29,559
or he just missed this stuff. But I have no

583
00:25:29,599 --> 00:25:31,759
clue where he came from. I have no idea how

584
00:25:31,799 --> 00:25:33,400
he got here, and I have no idea which way

585
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,640
I should be going. So it took me probably at

586
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,440
least an hour to like get acclimatized to controls again,

587
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,920
figure out where the heck I am, where I came from,

588
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,200
which way I should go.

589
00:25:43,319 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 2: So it took me.

590
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,759
Speaker 1: It took me a while to get back into it.

591
00:25:45,799 --> 00:25:47,359
But you know, that's that's fine. It's all part of

592
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,880
the it's all part of the experience.

593
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 2: And I was in this just huge castle. It's kind

594
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,039
of at like the base of it. It's just it

595
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,279
was good fun just going through that thing. Just all

596
00:25:56,279 --> 00:25:58,480
these different directions, as I mentioned, figure on every single

597
00:25:58,519 --> 00:26:02,279
one cool library with these giant statues hanging from the

598
00:26:02,319 --> 00:26:04,200
ceiling and you're kind of pulling leavers to move them

599
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,359
around and then navigating jumping on the back of them

600
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:07,400
to get up to different areas.

601
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: It was a really cool, really fun area. And this

602
00:26:09,759 --> 00:26:12,160
is like the tower for people who played the DLC.

603
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,720
The boss at the end here, his name is Mesmer

604
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,799
the Impaler, and holy shit, I it took me at

605
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,359
least at least forty attempts on this boss, probably fifty.

606
00:26:23,559 --> 00:26:28,160
He was kicking my ass, super super hard boss. He

607
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,079
has like a very brutal thing. Well, right at the beginning,

608
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,960
he just does this huge like meteor attack from across

609
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,480
the map, so like you right at the start, you

610
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,079
have to get your reaction time down your role immediately,

611
00:26:38,319 --> 00:26:40,720
and then he explodes right away, and you can't just

612
00:26:40,759 --> 00:26:43,200
like double spam roll, like you have to time the

613
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,599
first role to get out of that first initial attack

614
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,799
and then wait for like half a second and then

615
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,279
roll immediately to dodge the explosion. And even just getting

616
00:26:51,279 --> 00:26:54,119
that consistently, especially when I'm frustrated and I'm on Attemp

617
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,480
thirty and I'm bashing my head against the one I'm

618
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,440
just mad about this freaking boss in my way. Everyone's

619
00:26:59,559 --> 00:27:01,759
I'm still still died of that combo, like right off

620
00:27:01,799 --> 00:27:03,359
the start, or at least get knocked down to like

621
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,079
one HP, and then he would just stab me with

622
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,440
his stupid spear. But it was it was quite the duel.

623
00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:11,880
I fought him for a while, got frustrated, went and

624
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,400
explored some other areas, went leveled up my character a

625
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,559
couple times, and then came back to him again. He's

626
00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:21,000
also he's such a freaking dufus of of an opponent.

627
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,640
He just looks like a dufus and he has the

628
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,680
stupid line Taylor where he's like, embrace the Mezma's flame,

629
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,359
Like every time he kills you, he spews up this

630
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,240
stupid little catchphrase. And he was bothering the hell out

631
00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:36,160
of me. But I can finally say, after whatever it is,

632
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,759
forty to fifty attempts, I finally killed him, and it

633
00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:41,359
felt so good. MUDs can confirm that I was like

634
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,799
popping off in my seat when I finally got the

635
00:27:43,839 --> 00:27:47,599
ko on him. It was. It was brutal, but it

636
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,680
was very satisfying in the end. The only thing that

637
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,359
was annoying, truly annoying about it was he had a

638
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,160
couple moves. One move is like just a flurry of strikes,

639
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,920
and it's just such madness. It's like, I don't know

640
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,759
how anyone's supposed to dodge of this thing. It's just

641
00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:03,759
too many random moves of random locations. So that move

642
00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:06,039
I just I couldn't. I think in the fifty times

643
00:28:06,079 --> 00:28:07,599
I fought him in which he'd used it at least

644
00:28:07,599 --> 00:28:10,680
two or three times, every time, I maybe dodged it

645
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,599
fully once and then maybe like I was able not

646
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,880
to die from it like two or three times. Like

647
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,759
that's how brutal this move was. So when I saw

648
00:28:17,799 --> 00:28:20,279
him charging it up, pretty much just throwing a towel

649
00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:22,799
at that. But like, if use this one move, I'm

650
00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:25,000
just done for. So that was really annoying.

651
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:27,079
Speaker 2: And then in his second phase, he's like a snake

652
00:28:27,559 --> 00:28:29,720
snake kind of guy. So he has these big snakes

653
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,400
coming out and they're just so big and you can't

654
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,559
see them very well and they're just so flayly that

655
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,640
it's just it's hard to analyze what you're seeing.

656
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:41,599
Speaker 1: And then like dodge properly. So it was it was

657
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,599
quite the duel with that guy. But I finally took

658
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,359
him out, and then that was like kind of the

659
00:28:46,519 --> 00:28:48,599
progress blocker for another area. I think he's one of

660
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,880
the main bosses, so that I could finally kill him.

661
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,720
It really progressed too, like it opened up a bunch

662
00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:54,799
of doors to go to other places, so that felt

663
00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:57,240
pretty good. So that was pretty good. And then and

664
00:28:57,319 --> 00:28:59,680
then after that too, I've just been going because I

665
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,480
found a couple of other bosses and they're just super hard,

666
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,119
so I'm trying to go level up somewhere before I

667
00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:05,240
fight them again. And one of the biggest things with

668
00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:07,799
the DLC is like there's this huge canyon area and

669
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,480
I've never been able to figure out how to get

670
00:29:09,519 --> 00:29:12,039
the heck down there. It's so far you can't just

671
00:29:12,119 --> 00:29:14,559
jump off the cliff somewhere you'll just die. But I

672
00:29:14,759 --> 00:29:17,000
just today I was like looking around all these different corners.

673
00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:18,880
I was like on the map, there's this little waterfall

674
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,039
area that looks a little suspicious, and that was the

675
00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:23,480
pathway it led down to the canyon. And so now

676
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,960
I've just been exploring down there. A ton of new

677
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,599
stuff down there, which is really satisfying. I think I

678
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,480
have all the map parts filled out on the map now,

679
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:33,039
like not every save point and stuff, but just like

680
00:29:33,079 --> 00:29:36,640
the overworld like maps that you get, so that feels

681
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,440
pretty good. And uh yeah, I'm really really just totally

682
00:29:39,519 --> 00:29:41,799
invested back in it, and I think trying my best

683
00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:44,319
to beat this DLC within the next couple of weeks

684
00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:46,680
here and just put it to bed because it's been

685
00:29:46,759 --> 00:29:49,480
pretty challenging. But it's been. It's been fun.

686
00:29:49,519 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 2: I'm glad.

687
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: I glad it came back to it here, and it

688
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,200
was only a couple months so I wasn't totally rusty.

689
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,359
I still remember like the buttons and the jank of

690
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,640
the game. So yeah, it's been it's been nice to

691
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:00,359
get back in there.

692
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:03,519
Speaker 2: Good stuff. I'm glad you got the upper edge on

693
00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:06,200
that guy. That sounds horrible.

694
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: Fucking mesmer, but he's dead now and he's never coming back.

695
00:30:09,759 --> 00:30:12,319
He does not respawn like every other enemy in the game,

696
00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:16,680
so that feels good. How about we, uh well, actually,

697
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,119
before we go to a break, how about you tell

698
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,640
me about a little game that you don't want to

699
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,359
talk about today, A little game called Sins of a

700
00:30:23,359 --> 00:30:26,799
Solar Empire. Tell me what was scratching your itch about

701
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:27,559
this one lately?

702
00:30:28,519 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh man, so I did not realize there's a

703
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,920
sequel that just dropped out of nowhere for this game.

704
00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:38,480
Kirkland mentioned it to me the other week. Now, this

705
00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:40,920
is a game. It's one of the games that me

706
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,160
and Kirkland talk about, like Star Wars, Empire War, Sins

707
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,839
of a Solar Empire. It's just when that we talk

708
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,839
about that. He never plays, but he wants to. He

709
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,319
wish lists of these games. He waits for that sale.

710
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,680
So he let me know, Okay, there's a sequel. I'm like,

711
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,000
what are you talking about. There's there already is a

712
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,160
like a sequel. He's like, no, no, this is this is

713
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,839
an actual number two. So I look and sure enough,

714
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,400
this is it. So originally the game Sins of a

715
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:09,039
Solar Empire. That game I remember back when EB Games sold.

716
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,920
EB Games was EB Games, not game Stop, but they

717
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,240
sold a lot of hard copy PC games. You could

718
00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:18,119
walk in and get Halo Combat Evolved on PC and whatnot.

719
00:31:19,599 --> 00:31:22,240
And now I realized this. I didn't actually get it

720
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,079
from me B Games. I went to Lendin Drugs. That's

721
00:31:24,079 --> 00:31:27,839
where I got it, That's right. So Lenden Drugs had it,

722
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,079
and so I went there and I just was pruising

723
00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:31,960
and I remember picking it up. I have the hard

724
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:37,119
copy in my office somewhere, and I was big on

725
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,400
just trying to find like the next big Space RTS.

726
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,440
I was looking everywhere because I was super big in an

727
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,559
Empire at War, so I wanted to find it. And

728
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,319
this game blew my mind. Have you ever have you

729
00:31:47,359 --> 00:31:49,599
seen it? Seen it or played it? Ever? Do you

730
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,279
know of this game?

731
00:31:50,319 --> 00:31:52,799
Speaker 1: I've not played it. I've definitely you know, I looked

732
00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:54,440
at some footage of the sequel here. But the only

733
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,359
reason I think I know of this game is I

734
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,720
just to wear when, like you know, nine years ago,

735
00:31:58,759 --> 00:32:01,160
when we did our Top ten Games of All Time,

736
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,119
I'm pretty sure Sins of a Solar Empire was on

737
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,880
your list back then as a top ten game of

738
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,799
all time, And that's the first time I remember hearing

739
00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:09,599
about it, and so it's just been in the back

740
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,359
of my head since then. But I've never sought it

741
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,559
out personally. But yeah, I did not hear it all

742
00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:15,880
about the sequel, not heard a single human being talk

743
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,880
about it, So I don't know if it exists in

744
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,400
some super specific niche. But it's pretty cool that because

745
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,559
what that was, like an early two thousands game twosand

746
00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:24,680
and five, Like, what's the era for that first one?

747
00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh, Sins of a Solar Empire, I do

748
00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:32,839
not remember. I mean, this has to be I want

749
00:32:32,839 --> 00:32:35,799
to say at least twenty ten. Okay, that's super Bowl

750
00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:38,480
two thousand and eight, two thousand and eight. So, and

751
00:32:38,519 --> 00:32:41,599
then it came up with an expansion, and the expansion

752
00:32:41,799 --> 00:32:44,480
was Sins of a Solar Empire Rebellion. Oh and that

753
00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:46,279
came out a few years later, and I just assumed

754
00:32:46,319 --> 00:32:50,640
that that was the sequel. And again it's just a

755
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,119
major expansion. So it's this is an actual official sequel.

756
00:32:53,759 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: But I've played the sixteen years between the original game

757
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,880
in this sequel is a pretty big time, I guess you.

758
00:33:01,079 --> 00:33:02,920
As you mentioned, there's that DLC in there too, but

759
00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:05,240
that's a long time. But it's cool that it's finally

760
00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:05,880
coming back.

761
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad. And it seems like reviews are great reviews.

762
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,079
People are talking about how this is just pulling all

763
00:33:13,079 --> 00:33:15,440
the good stuff from the first one and deleting kind

764
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,279
of like the stuff that didn't work forward and just

765
00:33:17,319 --> 00:33:19,839
kind of really capitalizing on what made this game successful

766
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,599
a big thing too. That's just wonderful about the game

767
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:28,039
is it's a scale effect and I did not realize

768
00:33:28,079 --> 00:33:30,319
this because you get one solar system that you're in,

769
00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:33,839
and you have your Sun and your different planets orbiting it,

770
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,039
and certain planets can connect to other planets. You have

771
00:33:36,119 --> 00:33:39,119
your skill tree, you're upgrading your technology, and you have

772
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,559
other factions, so you're forging alliances, you're breaking your alliances.

773
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,480
You're setting up like mining and trade and whatnot, building

774
00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:49,480
up your resources, and then you're building up your fleets.

775
00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:54,079
And the fleets can be small fighter craft to corvettes

776
00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:57,839
and then bigger capital ships and then like Rebellion brought

777
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,480
in huge super spaceship units, which is really awesome. But

778
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,440
what I liked about it was you can zoom out

779
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,840
of your solar system and see that there's like four

780
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,559
other solar systems that you can access, each with like

781
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,760
thirty planets, and it's like, oh my gosh. So while

782
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,480
you're building up and you conquer your solar system, it's

783
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,519
great because you could just you see your fleet of

784
00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:24,360
like five hundred units going in, and then after that

785
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,519
it's like going to another solar system. And once you

786
00:34:28,559 --> 00:34:31,079
go to another solar system, it's just like, oh, just

787
00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:33,800
open season again just all out war. So it's just

788
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,280
it's absolutely crazy.

789
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:39,639
Speaker 1: That's awesome. How and it's hard for you now because

790
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:42,960
you've play the game a lot, But how like how

791
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,920
easy to difficult or complex is it for an RTS game?

792
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,639
Because RTS games, I feel like, are typically pretty pretty

793
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:52,480
hard to either control or play. But also just like

794
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,639
in terms of the inner workings and mechanics are pretty intense.

795
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,039
Speaker 2: It is. It is intense, and I think I only

796
00:34:59,079 --> 00:35:01,519
scratch probably this of it because there's a lot that

797
00:35:01,559 --> 00:35:04,400
you can do in there. But my my experience was

798
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,880
just building alliances and then canceling those alliances and then

799
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,440
just creating like scenarios of all out war and chaos.

800
00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:14,440
So that's kind of the extent. There's so much more

801
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,840
you can do, though I'm pretty war hungry, Like I

802
00:35:18,039 --> 00:35:20,119
want to build up my armada and then go to

803
00:35:20,159 --> 00:35:23,079
town and destroy conquering planets and systems and stuff. So

804
00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:25,199
I have a very linear kind of path that I

805
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,880
follow with my my space conquering gotcha, But is it

806
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,360
kind of like saying the way that there is like

807
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,159
other wind conditions if you choose to go down other routes,

808
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,800
or is it like always going to lead to combat

809
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,800
in the end, like like a typical arteas that's a

810
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,039
good question and I wish I had an answer for that.

811
00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:46,519
I really just to war hungry, war hungry ways. Yeah, yeah,

812
00:35:46,639 --> 00:35:49,719
right on, So with the sequel, like obviously you mentioned

813
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,760
that it's just you know, getting rid of the annoying things,

814
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:52,880
adding some new stuff.

815
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: Like what is the new intriguing looking stuff for you

816
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,079
that you've seen on this on the sequel?

817
00:35:58,639 --> 00:36:01,039
Speaker 2: What's pulling me? And is just the fact that they

818
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:03,840
brought back a lot of the super units from the

819
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,960
Rebellion expansion, which is great, and again there's the familiar

820
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:10,159
classes too, but the main thing is just these new

821
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:15,920
beautiful areas like planetary systems you're checking out, and just

822
00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:19,119
the it looks like the scale of combat is a

823
00:36:19,159 --> 00:36:22,079
lot lot bigger, and I like just I like how

824
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:24,000
you can just get up close and zoom in and

825
00:36:24,039 --> 00:36:26,800
actually see the squadrons of fighters flying by and just

826
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,880
watching them and so and graphically too, it's it's improved

827
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,079
greatly over that first ones. Yeah, because it's been so

828
00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:35,719
many years, so that's that's just a blessing.

829
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:41,119
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah that's cool. Like how for rts, like

830
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,039
is this kind of one that you'll be sitting down

831
00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:47,519
and doing a whole battle like in one playthrough, or

832
00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:49,440
is it like a multi session thing where you're gonna

833
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,599
be playing all one saved for like hours and hours and.

834
00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: Hours one save for hours hours hours. Definitely. Yeah.

835
00:36:57,519 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: Well, I gotta say, I don't know if you've sold

836
00:36:59,519 --> 00:37:01,679
me on it just because of like those parts, Like

837
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,719
I feel like I would want something that's like i'd

838
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,440
be down for like an artists and like one sitting

839
00:37:05,559 --> 00:37:07,559
or one that's like a bit easier. This just sounds

840
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:10,519
so overwhelming, But I don't know. I would love if

841
00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:12,519
you were kirkingly did a live stream of it someday

842
00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:14,639
and I could just watch and learn. That would be

843
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,159
That would be really fun. It just sounds maybe a

844
00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:20,360
bit too intense for my current current state.

845
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,199
Speaker 2: Well, maybe I can download it, download it because I

846
00:37:23,199 --> 00:37:25,880
think it's Rebellions still in my steam, So maybe I'll

847
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,039
get in there and pop open an old save and

848
00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:32,679
maybe do a stream and get into the war. Mm hmm.

849
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: I was just looking up what else the studio has

850
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:40,519
done Ironclad games and looks like The Sins of a

851
00:37:40,639 --> 00:37:42,199
Dark Age. Have you heard of that game?

852
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: No?

853
00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:45,559
Speaker 1: I have not it looks like it was a mobile

854
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,719
so like a League of Legends type game that they

855
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,800
did after between Solar Empire one and two, as like

856
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,920
another thing that they'd worked on, which makes sense that

857
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,119
they weren't working on this sequel for you know, sixteen

858
00:37:57,199 --> 00:37:59,199
years straight kind of thing. I don't know if that's

859
00:37:59,199 --> 00:38:02,280
still around, if it was an online focus thing. Yeah,

860
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,119
it looks like they shut it down in twenty sixteen,

861
00:38:05,159 --> 00:38:07,880
so that's been gone for a while. That's cool that

862
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,079
the studio is able to survive through that and is

863
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,079
here all these years later with a sequel after six

864
00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:15,639
years of their previous game going offline. That's pretty crazy.

865
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:17,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, no kidding.

866
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,519
Speaker 1: Plus that Rebellion DLC that mentioned, So that's cool. I'm

867
00:38:21,559 --> 00:38:23,239
surprised if you love this first game so much, Like

868
00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:25,880
I'm surprised this wasn't just like immediate pickup for you

869
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,000
but instead of a wait for sale, I guess just

870
00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:29,960
down to the time element of your life against Like

871
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,760
you really don't have time for all this anyway, so

872
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:33,440
you might as well wait.

873
00:38:33,519 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I have the first one, and I have Rebellion,

874
00:38:36,519 --> 00:38:39,039
and I know what I have. I know I can

875
00:38:39,079 --> 00:38:41,280
get in there, like I'm not playing it for campaigns,

876
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,800
story reasons or anything like that. There's no characters or

877
00:38:44,039 --> 00:38:46,199
arcs right here. That's drawing me like I'm just going

878
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,920
in just a wage war and conquer space. I can

879
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,239
wait for a sale for that.

880
00:38:50,679 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough. Well, speaking of waiting for a sale,

881
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,320
I don't know how this transition is gonna work. But

882
00:38:58,519 --> 00:39:01,320
did you know that the best wait port geek versus

883
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,360
is to hit up her Patreon and subscribe it. Whatever

884
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,079
tear makes sense for you. You get episodes, access to episodes

885
00:39:08,119 --> 00:39:10,280
early in ad free, some things you get months and

886
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,480
months and months early, and some also exclusive shows as

887
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,639
well that are worth checking out in some retrospectives that

888
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:18,719
are gonna be up there exclusive as well. You can

889
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,599
join our discord always chat with us about whatever news

890
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,559
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891
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:28,320
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892
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,320
terms of other things on the feed, these days really

893
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,639
just I feel like we're back in a TV show

894
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,559
city where we have Penguin going on, Agatha is about

895
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:38,840
to start, We're doing Rings of Power right now. Any

896
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,880
other shout outs from you, Taylor for geek First as

897
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:43,480
a whole.

898
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: I can't think of any I mean, we've done a

899
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,920
few reviews and we got a joker coming down the pipeline,

900
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,400
Big Brus Cast this week, so yeah, I think, yeah,

901
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,679
I guess that's coming around the corner here. So that's

902
00:39:57,679 --> 00:40:00,159
pretty much it that I know of sounds good. We're

903
00:40:00,159 --> 00:40:02,199
gonna throw a quick ad break and it will be

904
00:40:02,559 --> 00:40:08,320
right back. Okay, we are back, Taylor. Tell me about

905
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,599
this Call of Duty Halloween update that you wanted to

906
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:14,920
talk about. Yeah, so it kind of came out of nowhere.

907
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,880
So I mean, of course not nowhere, because we have

908
00:40:18,159 --> 00:40:21,360
usually the reoccurring haunted events that the Call of Duty does.

909
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,119
The nice thing about this though, is that it starts

910
00:40:26,119 --> 00:40:29,920
in nearly two days at the time of this recording,

911
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,239
and they're dropping Michael Myers in here right out of

912
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,920
the hop or off the hop, and I was not

913
00:40:35,079 --> 00:40:38,320
expecting that. Now. We've had a few other characters in

914
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,960
here in the past, like Billy the Puppet, we had

915
00:40:41,039 --> 00:40:46,239
leather Face, hash Aash, that's right, We've had walking other

916
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,480
Walking Dead characters, and who else have we had in here.

917
00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:53,280
There's been a few Scream ghost Face, so it's been

918
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,960
it's been pretty cool. But this time around, it seems

919
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:00,840
like they've gone like through the roof with haunted characters

920
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,719
because Michael Myers is including the Battle Pass, which is

921
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,360
exciting because that means that you'll you could probably see

922
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,280
like a Black Cell version of him, which would be

923
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,079
wild because they have the regular Battle Pass for like

924
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:15,519
eleven bucks, and then there's the Black Cell which you

925
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:17,960
pay an extra premium, which is ridiculous, but you get

926
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,960
extra content in there, mostly cosmetics. Some stuff is actual weapons,

927
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,199
but mostly cosmetic stuff. And those skins throughout the whole

928
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,519
Battle Pass that you can unlock will have their regular version,

929
00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:31,079
but then they'll have like a gold Black Trim version,

930
00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:34,079
which is pretty cool. So Michael Myers might have that,

931
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,079
which is wild to think about. I'm hoping he does.

932
00:41:38,039 --> 00:41:41,880
But aside from that, they have Norman ritis Darryl Dixon

933
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,519
from The Walking Dead, so he's coming in. So we

934
00:41:43,519 --> 00:41:45,199
already have Rick Grimes and miss Show and so now

935
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,159
they got him, they're adding have you ever seen Trigger Treat?

936
00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 1: I think I watched it last year for the first

937
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,960
time after you and Travis talking about it.

938
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 2: So there, Sam, Yeah, he's that character.

939
00:41:58,559 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: Oh the kid.

940
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 2: He's the kid with the pumpkin kid with the he

941
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,800
has the lollipop with the bag over his head. So

942
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:08,000
they're adding him in. Uh have you seen Terrifier?

943
00:42:09,079 --> 00:42:10,199
Speaker 1: I have not seen Terrifier.

944
00:42:10,639 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: They're adding Art the Clown, which is pretty wild.

945
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm missing up Trick or Treat? What's the Arnie

946
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,239
movie that you guys love so much?

947
00:42:18,599 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: Jingle all the way?

948
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,639
Speaker 1: Why I confuse those two ron today that that is

949
00:42:23,679 --> 00:42:27,440
a funny mix up there. So okay, no, I've never

950
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,199
heard of Trick or Treat. Then, actually, I'm looking at

951
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,599
this picture of this guy now that looks terrifying. I

952
00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:34,800
am not excited to have that guy pop around a

953
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,639
corner in war zone map over here.

954
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 2: Trigger Treat is a fantastic Halle movie. I know Travis

955
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,679
would say this as well, like you should definitely watch

956
00:42:42,679 --> 00:42:44,559
it with MUDs. It's great Halloween movie.

957
00:42:44,639 --> 00:42:47,079
Speaker 1: I don't think she would, but I'm I'll check it.

958
00:42:48,039 --> 00:42:50,519
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Art the Clown from Terrifier. He's in there,

959
00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:53,840
which I think Travis said this first. But huge, huge,

960
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,719
because I'm pretty sure it's just I don't know much

961
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,199
about it. I haven't seen the movies, but it's just

962
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,920
a small company, small group that made those movies. And

963
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:02,079
now to be at your third film that's gonna be

964
00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:05,800
coming out soon, and you have your character debuting in

965
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,599
a huge video game franchise. That's pretty that's pretty awesome,

966
00:43:09,639 --> 00:43:13,400
So shout outs to them for doing that. And then

967
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,519
you have of course smiled too the characters. You get

968
00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:19,599
two operators in there where they have the big smile

969
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,079
from the movie franchise, which I think is like pay

970
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,480
like they paid Call of Duty like tons of money

971
00:43:26,519 --> 00:43:27,239
just to get their.

972
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: All the profit that they made from the first movie, all.

973
00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:32,159
Speaker 2: Of it went into Call of Duty here, Yeah, to

974
00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:34,800
get that, which is just ridiculous. But I look at

975
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,559
this and I just think, man, I like Michael Myers

976
00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:41,320
included with the battle passes. Great, that's that's a rite off.

977
00:43:41,639 --> 00:43:43,920
And then you got Sam. Sam is definitely someone else

978
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,159
that I want to I feel like Travis is torn

979
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,480
between like Sam and Art the Clown. It's just it's

980
00:43:50,519 --> 00:43:52,159
it's super cool and they're gonna come with their own

981
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,440
weapons to their own killing animation. Sam has his lollipop

982
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,639
which he uses like in the killing animation, which is

983
00:43:57,679 --> 00:44:00,920
so cool. I just can't wait. And aside from that,

984
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,559
you get some cool new maps. I can't see what

985
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,960
the names are on this photo. But one of them

986
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,119
is called mad Cow and it's like a six v

987
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,480
six map and it's the whole thing is set up

988
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,840
where like the you can't see the actual ground, but

989
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,800
it's like blood kind of you're walking on blood. It's

990
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:24,320
just it's like an abandoned cow factory, meat processing factory.

991
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,800
It's just it looks super haunted and super crazy. And

992
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,559
then the other one is like an old like clown

993
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:35,840
drive through uh map. It's like nighttime and it's like

994
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:40,280
a fast food joint basically, but it's got like clown

995
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,519
themes to it. It's like so much fun.

996
00:44:43,519 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: And of course nothing new on the map front for Warzone.

997
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:47,519
It sounds like just.

998
00:44:48,039 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 2: Well, yes, Warzone Rebirth Rebirth Island should be getting. It's

999
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,880
what is it called purgatory. It's gonna be getting a

1000
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,400
purgatory mode, which I don't know what that entails. But

1001
00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:03,000
war the reworth itomal will be like nighttime, like spooky time,

1002
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,360
which is gonna be super super awesome to play in.

1003
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: Cool.

1004
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm looking forward to that again. I don't

1005
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,480
know what the purgatory is, but they're bringing back the

1006
00:45:10,559 --> 00:45:14,360
zombies war Zone again. That's just a classical iconic thing,

1007
00:45:15,559 --> 00:45:17,679
and yeah, there's a few other skins that you can

1008
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,519
get to other characters. They got what do they have?

1009
00:45:21,639 --> 00:45:23,679
They have ghost but he's got like I don't know

1010
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,880
if he's an actual unit that you have to kill

1011
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,199
in the actual zombie mode or whatnot, but he's like

1012
00:45:29,519 --> 00:45:31,559
his one he's got one head and two other heads

1013
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:33,199
and they all got ghost masks on them. So he's

1014
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,239
like got three headed zombie creature. Looks terrifying. And they

1015
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,800
got haunted guns they've added in as well. And then

1016
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,599
I saw there's a bunch of other miscellaneous Halloween skins

1017
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:45,679
that they've thrown in, and one of them, you know

1018
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:50,159
those Halloween costumes where it's like partially inflated. Let's say, like, yeah,

1019
00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:54,440
the inflated is like the alien arms and head wrapped

1020
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,800
around you, and then the alien legs are your legs,

1021
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,519
and then the inflated legs are just a human stangling. Yeah,

1022
00:46:00,559 --> 00:46:02,280
you know what that is. It's like in a weird

1023
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,280
conjoint costume. So they did that with one of the operators,

1024
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,719
where you have a clown on your back. I'm gonna

1025
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,719
pull a picture of it. You gotta see. It's something

1026
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:16,159
you have to see. A wild duty clown operator skin.

1027
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: It sounds like a lot of stuff for one season,

1028
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,480
like more than usual or is that like how many

1029
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,440
new things there usually is and I'm just not paying

1030
00:46:23,519 --> 00:46:24,039
enough attention.

1031
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,559
Speaker 2: I feel like this is more than usual. It really

1032
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:32,519
really is, because usually they I mean again for a

1033
00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:35,760
new season too, like they keep it pretty pretty cheer.

1034
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,800
I guess last year we got spawned for Halloween, gosh

1035
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:40,199
spawn and.

1036
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,199
Speaker 1: Was ash last year?

1037
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: Probably he was skeletor was last year too. Let's see here.

1038
00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:54,800
Apparently verdancek is supposed to be coming back with Black

1039
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,760
Ops six as well. It's a fun little thing.

1040
00:46:57,679 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's good. I think I'm I'm due for

1041
00:47:00,199 --> 00:47:03,079
new map switch up. I think that even the night

1042
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,920
change for Rebirth will be nice. But I'm maybe getting

1043
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,079
a little a little tired of that one for the

1044
00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:09,559
time being.

1045
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: That's fair. There is another they drop maps for I

1046
00:47:14,039 --> 00:47:16,960
think it was at there, like cod Next or whatever

1047
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,400
it was. They dropped the map for the new Resurgence

1048
00:47:20,679 --> 00:47:25,320
and it looks pretty neat. Actually, I'm looking forward to it.

1049
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 1: Like a brand new one, like not a rotation one.

1050
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: It's a brand new one. It'll probably be thrown into

1051
00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:35,320
the rotation eventually they like to do that, and I

1052
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,599
wish they didn't. I'd like it if they had dedicated,

1053
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:44,039
dedicated playlists for their certain maps. Okay, I think I

1054
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,800
have it here. It took a bit to find it.

1055
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:52,639
Oh yeah, Oh my gosh, this is ridiculous. It's actually

1056
00:47:52,679 --> 00:47:54,559
in a little video, so you're gonna laugh when you

1057
00:47:54,599 --> 00:48:04,239
see this. Okay, there we go. Make sure the volume

1058
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:09,280
is muted, so this oh man, Yeah, okay, okay, here

1059
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,679
we go. So it's called this is fine and you'll

1060
00:48:13,679 --> 00:48:14,519
see him running.

1061
00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: But it's yeah, that looks so silly. The legs, just

1062
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,039
the way they're so jankly, just having that physics to them.

1063
00:48:23,159 --> 00:48:25,679
Speaker 2: Just fo Yeah, it's it's ridiculous. And I don't know

1064
00:48:25,679 --> 00:48:27,360
which head are you supposed to shoot? Like, have I

1065
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,159
gotta go for that headshot? Like am I shooting the

1066
00:48:29,159 --> 00:48:30,440
clown head? My shooting? Yeah?

1067
00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:34,679
Speaker 1: Much and a bit annoying, but very very annoying.

1068
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 2: This is an interesting skin. It's kind of like the

1069
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,440
like the stand up guy you talk to we're ordering

1070
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:45,440
from a burger joint. He's got like the microphone in there. Yeah,

1071
00:48:45,519 --> 00:48:49,800
interesting five minute Freddy's vibes to that's that's right then,

1072
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:54,719
we got the last straw. There's no shortage of interesting

1073
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,920
skins that they do for for call of duty. But yeah,

1074
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:58,280
there you.

1075
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: Go nice and then yeah, the new one comes out

1076
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:02,480
end of next month.

1077
00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 2: Right ooh, I'll take your work for it. I haven't

1078
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,440
been paying too much attention. I've been kind of panicking

1079
00:49:09,519 --> 00:49:11,719
about it because I see all the omni movement and

1080
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,800
people are like praising it, and I'm kind of scared

1081
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:15,039
of it.

1082
00:49:15,039 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: You're the purest Yeah, I'm sure you were against that.

1083
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,280
Were you against sliding and doing these dolphin dives and

1084
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:21,920
stuff at first?

1085
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,599
Speaker 2: Too? I never dolphin dive. I don't see too many

1086
00:49:24,639 --> 00:49:27,719
other people doing it. But I love sliding. I'm all

1087
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,320
about it. I'm not slide canceling like some crazies are.

1088
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,199
But yeah, I like just I see these crazy videos

1089
00:49:34,199 --> 00:49:37,000
of people doing like side jumping, and it's just blowing

1090
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,079
my mind. And then I would like to experience though,

1091
00:49:40,159 --> 00:49:42,039
like taking people hostage. I think there's a lot of

1092
00:49:42,039 --> 00:49:44,480
fun with that. But I'm seeing some people just losing

1093
00:49:44,519 --> 00:49:47,320
their their noga and they're getting super upset about it.

1094
00:49:47,559 --> 00:49:51,159
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I'm I don't know if I excited it's

1095
00:49:51,199 --> 00:49:53,280
the right word, but I'm definitely gonna be checking checking

1096
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,199
out that new one when it comes out. I still

1097
00:49:56,199 --> 00:49:58,480
don't have game Pass active right now, but I'm sure

1098
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,280
when that by the time that's coming out, might resubscribe there,

1099
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,840
so that makes sense. Cool. Anything else on the cod

1100
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:08,119
front are going to move on? Ready to move Let's uh,

1101
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,119
let's leave the PS five for the last. Let's quickly

1102
00:50:10,119 --> 00:50:14,159
talk about this. So Ana Purna is a game publisher

1103
00:50:14,199 --> 00:50:18,039
of course, as well as a movie studio situation. But

1104
00:50:18,159 --> 00:50:20,800
there there was this crazy news that happened this week,

1105
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,880
which is that and A Purna's uh Interactive is the

1106
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,800
name for the like the gaming side of it. Literally

1107
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:32,320
every single employee from and a pernit Interactive all resigned

1108
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,599
at the exact same time. They just all quit this

1109
00:50:34,679 --> 00:50:37,840
company all of the exact same time. Pretty crazy and

1110
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,679
unprecedented thing to see. Seems like there was maybe talks

1111
00:50:41,679 --> 00:50:45,159
at some point for a Pernent Interactive to split off

1112
00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:47,599
and become its own entity rather than being tied to

1113
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,679
I guess these other owners with the rest of the

1114
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,639
Apurna stuff, and that fell through, which is laid into

1115
00:50:52,639 --> 00:50:55,400
partially why some people did this. Then I also saw

1116
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,000
that maybe there's some issues with like toxicity and some

1117
00:50:58,039 --> 00:51:01,239
of the executive people higher up at and A Purna,

1118
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,199
there's there's kind of it's a bit of a he said,

1119
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,519
she said situation with this. But what we know for

1120
00:51:06,559 --> 00:51:09,519
sure is that literally every single one of those employees left,

1121
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,159
uh and I mean and Perna said, They're still going ahead.

1122
00:51:13,159 --> 00:51:16,159
They're gonna rehire, they're gonna get a team set up again,

1123
00:51:16,199 --> 00:51:18,840
They're gonna get more people in the door. But this

1124
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,079
is a pretty crazy thing to see for anyone who

1125
00:51:22,119 --> 00:51:25,119
doesn't know Anna Purna is. Yeah, they're they're a publisher,

1126
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,719
so they're not actually developing games, So no games have

1127
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,679
been canceled in this process, but they help bring the

1128
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:35,719
resources and marketing push to mostly indie studios making interesting

1129
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:40,320
stuff like Outer Wilds, Sorrying Our Wildhearts, Cocoons, Stray Neon White.

1130
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,880
These are a few examples of games that Annapurna has published,

1131
00:51:44,119 --> 00:51:46,159
which to me is like, whenever I see that and

1132
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,480
a Purna logo next to a video game trailer, I'm

1133
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,440
immediately a little bit more interested, because I think this

1134
00:51:51,519 --> 00:51:54,400
team had a really great eye for games. Some of

1135
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,079
those are just absence of my favorite games from the

1136
00:51:56,119 --> 00:51:59,920
last few years. So hopefully that kind of essence can remain.

1137
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:02,760
But if it's going to be wholly new people at

1138
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,079
this place picking these games and making these deals, who knows,

1139
00:52:06,119 --> 00:52:07,800
it might just have kind of have to build from

1140
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,480
the ground up at this point. So we'll see what

1141
00:52:09,519 --> 00:52:12,679
happens there. But it's a pretty strange thing, especially with

1142
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,719
the timing too. And I think it was just a

1143
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,480
couple of weeks ago that Remedy announced that Control Too

1144
00:52:18,039 --> 00:52:20,280
is going to be published by Annapurna, and that's like

1145
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,360
that's their publisher going forward. So that's pretty crazy that

1146
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,679
a game of that scale just got picked up and

1147
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,360
now this is happening, and so they said that, you know,

1148
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,400
that's not affecting them at all. Remedy has said that,

1149
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,719
and the or a few of these other studios have

1150
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,599
said that they're not really going to be affected by

1151
00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:37,480
this in the long term. So we'll see what happens there.

1152
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:38,880
But I don't know if you have many thoughts on

1153
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,480
this tailor. I just thought it was an absolutely crazy

1154
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:41,760
thing I had to bring up because I am a

1155
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,639
fan of of I don't know this publisher. I guess, like,

1156
00:52:44,679 --> 00:52:46,199
I think they've really made a name for themselves in

1157
00:52:46,199 --> 00:52:47,280
the last couple of years here.

1158
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,119
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that doesn't happen without some behind the

1159
00:52:51,159 --> 00:52:55,360
scenes coordination. That's pretty that's pretty crazy.

1160
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:56,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, And is.

1161
00:52:56,119 --> 00:52:58,079
Speaker 2: There was there? Sorry, was there a reason for it?

1162
00:52:58,119 --> 00:53:01,800
Did they disclose that they were unhappy? Was it like

1163
00:53:02,039 --> 00:53:03,639
higher ups or something like that.

1164
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 1: I think it is a lot of speculation right now,

1165
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,360
but I think maybe one of the main things was

1166
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,960
just that you know, whoever the head boss was at

1167
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,559
the interactive side there may be working on this deal

1168
00:53:12,599 --> 00:53:14,079
to split it off, make it its own, like kind

1169
00:53:14,079 --> 00:53:16,039
of independent thing and where they could have more freedom,

1170
00:53:16,079 --> 00:53:18,880
I suppose, and then that kind of fell through, and

1171
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,760
it seems like maybe in a bit of a shady way,

1172
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,760
or maybe they're being led on or something like that,

1173
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,199
and then this deal kind of got pulled out from

1174
00:53:26,199 --> 00:53:27,800
front of them. So I don't know what it is.

1175
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,119
And maybe I'm giving them too much credit, And just

1176
00:53:30,119 --> 00:53:31,960
like being on the side of those people who quit,

1177
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,559
and it seems like, I don't know, they seem like

1178
00:53:34,599 --> 00:53:36,000
they're doing a really good job over there, like I

1179
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,679
feel like they should be given the resources. But I

1180
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,360
understand that there's when corporations are at play it's a

1181
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,519
whole different ballgame. So yeah, it's just just a crazy situation.

1182
00:53:44,599 --> 00:53:47,960
And I hope it can remain to exist or I

1183
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,159
don't know, still be a cool, interesting publisher and help

1184
00:53:51,199 --> 00:53:54,880
support these indie developers making cool games. But who knows.

1185
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,480
It might honestly just be the end of it. And

1186
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,559
they say they're gonna try and make it work, but

1187
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,920
it might just not happen at all, and they might

1188
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,840
just fold at some point in the future. So kind

1189
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,280
of a kind of a wicked situation. But I had

1190
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,360
to bring it up because yeah, it's it's relevant. And

1191
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,360
then I think our last piece of the day here

1192
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,800
is that just last week, the PS five Pro was

1193
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,599
announced after i'd say like a month of speculation or more.

1194
00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:23,239
I feel like it's been talked about for a while here,

1195
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,679
but the new PS five was finally shown off in

1196
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,039
the PS five Pro. It has a new design to it,

1197
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:33,320
and of course it's got stronger hardware in it. It's

1198
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,039
got more hard drive space, but it's also got a

1199
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,679
significantly higher price tag and Taylor with taxes, this baby's

1200
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,679
gonna be well over, maybe not well over, but just

1201
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:48,360
over one thousand Canadian dollars.

1202
00:54:48,639 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 3: Ah, what isn't that absolutely fucked Yeah, I mean it's

1203
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,800
like nine before tax Canadian For this thing.

1204
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 2: I have to compare what the Xbox prices to that,

1205
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:04,800
like the Xbox.

1206
00:55:05,599 --> 00:55:08,039
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the Xbox and regular PS five

1207
00:55:08,159 --> 00:55:10,039
or the Series X are like six hundred or six

1208
00:55:10,119 --> 00:55:16,840
six fifty maybe with the disk drive PS five right Canadian? Yeah,

1209
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,480
I guess, so throw the tax on there so you

1210
00:55:19,519 --> 00:55:22,599
add an extra you know, one hundred and fifty ish

1211
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,400
one hundred and twenty.

1212
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 2: I think you're right. Series X two.

1213
00:55:32,199 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 1: Because I don't think they've done a price drop on well,

1214
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,280
and I don't think any of the kurringing consoles have

1215
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,440
had a price drop, And I was wondering. I was

1216
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,760
wondering with the PS five, with with this pro being

1217
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,320
announced and it being rumored for a while and people

1218
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,480
expecting it to come out this fall. I was hoping

1219
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,039
that it would come in at like a price point

1220
00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:49,760
just like the same or a little bit higher than

1221
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,400
the PS five. Then they would drop the PS five

1222
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,079
price and that might be the time when I finally

1223
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,519
jump in and get that console. But with this insane

1224
00:55:55,559 --> 00:55:57,760
price point, it seems to me like they're not really

1225
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,280
targeting this for the everyday person, like this seems like

1226
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,440
the rich ass people who have a lot of money

1227
00:56:03,559 --> 00:56:06,159
or are willing to upgrade from their PS five and

1228
00:56:06,199 --> 00:56:08,280
maybe they can get a better deal that way from it,

1229
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,800
But I don't. I don't see them dropping the price

1230
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,400
of the standard PS five at this rate, given given

1231
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,440
the insane price point of this. But yeah, what was

1232
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,400
your reaction to seeing all this news about the PS

1233
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,679
five pro if you even paid attention to it at all?

1234
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,559
As the next Box guy, I mean.

1235
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 2: I I think it was I think it was bound

1236
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,559
to happen. You get the console and then you get

1237
00:56:27,559 --> 00:56:30,000
the next upgraded version of it. They've been doing that

1238
00:56:30,039 --> 00:56:32,960
for a long time, so it makes sense that we're

1239
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,360
going to get something here. But at that price point,

1240
00:56:35,519 --> 00:56:39,000
I just absolutely cannot believe that. That blows my mind.

1241
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,960
That's that's absolutely chaotic. I do like the look of it.

1242
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,159
Looking at a photo of it now, it does look

1243
00:56:45,199 --> 00:56:47,599
pretty nice. Just you know, it's mostly the same, but

1244
00:56:47,639 --> 00:56:50,000
it's got like I'm assuming those vents.

1245
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: Kind of.

1246
00:56:53,159 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is pretty neat. But I have to look

1247
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,639
at the specs here because yeah, there's the US in

1248
00:57:00,639 --> 00:57:02,480
comparison Xbox Series X.

1249
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: It's one of the things it has is so the

1250
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,800
base PS five has eight hundred and twenty five gigabytes

1251
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,239
of space. This one's gonna have two terabytes, so it's

1252
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,559
over double you know factor and like usually like what

1253
00:57:14,639 --> 00:57:16,440
is it, fifty to one hundred gigabytes of that are

1254
00:57:17,039 --> 00:57:19,639
like space you can't actually use. It's like used for

1255
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,679
software for the you know, firmware and stuff like that.

1256
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,599
So that's great, that's double the hardware. So I mean,

1257
00:57:25,639 --> 00:57:27,320
I don't know how much a one terabyte or a

1258
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,000
two teraby hard drive would be if you were a

1259
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,559
say a PS five owner who had the base model

1260
00:57:31,559 --> 00:57:33,039
and wanted to get that better hard drive. I don't

1261
00:57:33,079 --> 00:57:34,719
know what that would run you, but that's something you

1262
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,960
could factor into the price here, of course. And then

1263
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,320
the other thing is just like it's stronger, and in

1264
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,559
the way that they've shown that off, it seems like

1265
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,400
you know, a lot of games on the current gen

1266
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,000
it's like you have your performance mode or you have

1267
00:57:45,039 --> 00:57:47,280
your quality mode, and it's like, Okay, do you want

1268
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,960
thirty frames and four K and like ray tracing all

1269
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,559
this beautiful stuff, or do you want better performance which

1270
00:57:52,599 --> 00:57:55,960
is usually sixty frames? And then the game is going

1271
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,679
to you know, look a little bit worse, which honestly,

1272
00:57:58,679 --> 00:58:00,920
I don't think I've ever really noticed difference when I

1273
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,320
when I do the quality versus performance, I just always

1274
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,360
pick the performance mode. So it seems like what they're

1275
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,039
aiming for here is like every game, no matter what,

1276
00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:08,719
is gonna be at least sixty. You don't have to

1277
00:58:08,719 --> 00:58:10,639
worry about that anymore. But then you're gonna have the

1278
00:58:10,639 --> 00:58:13,480
option now on probably mostly like Sony first party games

1279
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,480
for one hundred and twenty frames. So I don't know

1280
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,719
if that was not an option whatsoever before on like

1281
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,039
a ratchet and Clank or something, but it seems like

1282
00:58:20,119 --> 00:58:22,679
now at least when you're picking between do I want

1283
00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:25,559
thirty frames or sixty frames, now that decision is gonna

1284
00:58:25,559 --> 00:58:28,920
be maybe sixty versus one twenty, and then that's same like, Okay,

1285
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,639
the graphics are gonna be a little bit worse on

1286
00:58:30,679 --> 00:58:33,360
sixty frames, but they're gonna be just like or a

1287
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,159
little bit better on sixty frames, a little bit worse

1288
00:58:35,199 --> 00:58:37,599
at the one twenty. To me, that was the main

1289
00:58:37,639 --> 00:58:39,800
thing that stood out, Like the hard drive space in

1290
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,239
the frame rate are like the main the main differences

1291
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,159
as far as I can tell.

1292
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,159
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think at the end of the day, looking

1293
00:58:50,199 --> 00:58:53,239
at what them not offering like multiple versions like the

1294
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,920
Xbox does. Like that's that's interesting because it kind of

1295
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,199
forces your hand to either go with like the I

1296
00:58:58,199 --> 00:59:00,199
guess the old gen is what it's called, or this

1297
00:59:00,719 --> 00:59:01,719
next gen version.

1298
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,079
Speaker 1: I mean, wouldn't the options just be like the standard

1299
00:59:05,119 --> 00:59:07,039
PS five and then the Pro.

1300
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 2: Now yeah, center PS five I guess their disc or

1301
00:59:11,039 --> 00:59:12,360
their Discless versions and.

1302
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: Then yeah, yeah, which I think is like a fifty

1303
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:17,039
dollars difference between those. I don't even know if they

1304
00:59:17,239 --> 00:59:20,039
do that anymore. They might have like retired some of

1305
00:59:20,039 --> 00:59:22,239
those because then some point they release a PS five

1306
00:59:22,239 --> 00:59:24,760
Pro or sorry, a PS five Slim, and I don't

1307
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,599
know what that change. It's a little bit smaller, I guess,

1308
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:29,360
and I don't know where the disk drive. I think

1309
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,559
that Slim didn't have a disk drive and then you

1310
00:59:32,599 --> 00:59:34,400
could like buy that as an add on or something.

1311
00:59:35,199 --> 00:59:37,360
And I think this Pro I don't know if you

1312
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:38,639
have an article open in front of you, but like,

1313
00:59:38,679 --> 00:59:40,840
I don't think there's a disk drive on this. I

1314
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,480
don't think, so he's one of the things as well,

1315
00:59:42,519 --> 00:59:44,880
so it actually loses that feature which is kind of crazy,

1316
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,760
and I don't think there's an option for that to

1317
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:49,840
come with a distrive. You just have to buy like

1318
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,039
the little bonus thing that you plug in USB. I

1319
00:59:53,039 --> 00:59:54,880
would I would guess too if you want to play

1320
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,119
your discs, which is too bad because on I do

1321
00:59:57,159 --> 00:59:59,119
have quite a few PS four games, so that would

1322
00:59:59,159 --> 01:00:00,840
be something that's kind of a important for me to have.

1323
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,559
Is uh is that destrived to play some littler games

1324
01:00:03,559 --> 01:00:07,159
that I own already? But yeah, like I don't know.

1325
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,239
To me, I just see this as like I feel

1326
01:00:09,239 --> 01:00:11,280
like the target the market they're aiming for is the

1327
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,039
hardcore fans who already have a PS five and want

1328
01:00:14,039 --> 01:00:15,840
to upgrade this and then can like trade in their

1329
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,239
PS five and get you know, get this for I

1330
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,360
don't know, five hundred dollars or something, or I'm just

1331
01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:24,159
throwing out a random number there, but get it for

1332
01:00:24,159 --> 01:00:27,760
a lot cheaper relatively speaking. But like, I don't I

1333
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,039
don't see anyone who doesn't have a PS five right

1334
01:00:31,039 --> 01:00:33,679
now that goes straight for the pro instead of just

1335
01:00:33,719 --> 01:00:37,679
getting the regular PS five unless you're just you know,

1336
01:00:38,239 --> 01:00:40,320
Mark Cuban or something and you just have like all

1337
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,599
the money in the world it's I don't know, it's

1338
01:00:42,599 --> 01:00:44,719
just it's it just seems kind of anti consumer in

1339
01:00:44,719 --> 01:00:46,400
that way. It feels like they're boxing out a lot

1340
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,639
of a lot of people to even like, I would

1341
01:00:48,719 --> 01:00:51,679
never consider getting this at a thousand dollars, that's absolutely insane.

1342
01:00:52,239 --> 01:00:55,039
Speaker 2: No, not even a Christmas gift, that's ridiculous.

1343
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:59,599
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, I guess said, cause I don't know what

1344
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,480
what else is to say about it. I mean, it

1345
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,599
seems like you know, a solid version to have. But

1346
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:07,000
I'm curious anyone, anyone listening if you are planning on

1347
01:01:07,079 --> 01:01:09,159
upgrading or getting this, if you don't have a PS five,

1348
01:01:09,199 --> 01:01:11,440
I'd love to know why. So please please let me

1349
01:01:11,519 --> 01:01:13,719
know what is the decision making for you? If you

1350
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,320
just want the best of the best, fair enough, But

1351
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:17,960
I feel like, man, if you're blowing a thousand bucks,

1352
01:01:18,039 --> 01:01:20,159
like get a gaming PC at that right, keep your

1353
01:01:20,159 --> 01:01:23,320
regular PS five and you have, like you know, good

1354
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,320
options there for gaming. What do you think Xbox is

1355
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,800
going to do for a next gen or like a

1356
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,679
pro version, Like do you think they're gonna do something

1357
01:01:31,719 --> 01:01:33,119
like that? I feel like the rumors have been that

1358
01:01:33,119 --> 01:01:36,639
they're maybe targeting to do an held thing like a

1359
01:01:36,679 --> 01:01:39,239
steam Deck rather than like a pro and I feel

1360
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,719
like they haven't hinted at doing like a Series X

1361
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,679
pro version, and I don't like I guess they maybe

1362
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:48,199
do need to, Like a lot of their games are

1363
01:01:48,199 --> 01:01:50,599
being locked at thirty frames, which is really bothersome to me.

1364
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:52,480
But at the same time, I don't know what they

1365
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,239
would have to cost it at to make that worth it,

1366
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:55,280
and I don't know if I don't know if that's

1367
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,280
what the Xbox fans want necessarily, But what do you

1368
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,880
think would you would you pay? Would you trade in

1369
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,480
your Series X and pay for you to dollars to

1370
01:02:02,519 --> 01:02:03,800
get an upgrade for a pro version?

1371
01:02:05,079 --> 01:02:08,599
Speaker 2: No? No, I wouldn't. I mean I only did that

1372
01:02:08,639 --> 01:02:13,440
once with my previous Xbox One two the I guess

1373
01:02:13,559 --> 01:02:16,320
Xbox one S, which the S which is like the

1374
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:21,719
white slimmer version. But that was still at a very

1375
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,360
affordable price and the trade in was pretty reasonable. I

1376
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,360
don't think I would if it was in this type

1377
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,320
of price range, I wouldn't do it. I'm pretty happy

1378
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:33,400
with the console I have and graphically everything looks great,

1379
01:02:34,039 --> 01:02:36,639
So I mean, at that point, if you're getting a

1380
01:02:36,639 --> 01:02:39,320
better console that can produce better results than you, probably

1381
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,159
need a better TV, but even that, I'm happy with

1382
01:02:41,159 --> 01:02:44,719
my TV. One hundred and twenty hurts refresh rates like

1383
01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:47,880
four K. I don't need much else.

1384
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, And I mean, like how many games are

1385
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,199
actually taking advantage of that anyway? Like, as as far

1386
01:02:54,239 --> 01:02:57,079
as I know, there's Gears five and do Maternal, I

1387
01:02:57,199 --> 01:03:00,880
like the only one FPS games on XP, unless there's

1388
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,159
maybe this, like some smaller one that I'm not thinking of,

1389
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,039
like a simple indie game or something. But in terms

1390
01:03:06,079 --> 01:03:07,719
of like Xbox first part, they can barely even get

1391
01:03:07,719 --> 01:03:10,000
their games to run at sixty, so like one hundred

1392
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:11,400
and twenty is like kind of out of the question

1393
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,840
for a lot of them. Like I think, I forget

1394
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:15,760
if Starfield we ought to patch to get to sixty,

1395
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,559
but they even announced like a Vowed is being locked

1396
01:03:17,559 --> 01:03:19,760
at thirty, which seems kind of crazy for the scale

1397
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,400
of that game. So I don't know. Maybe maybe it

1398
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,119
would be helpful to have that, but I just don't

1399
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,880
think with how many how much they're already kind of

1400
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:30,239
struggling to sell the current lot of Xboxes and the

1401
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,760
series s at its affordable price point, Like I don't

1402
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:38,280
see many people ponying up for that higher version other

1403
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,519
than once again the hardcore who would just like upgrade,

1404
01:03:40,519 --> 01:03:42,599
which like they're pool of people who are going to

1405
01:03:42,679 --> 01:03:45,280
do that as much smaller than Sony's, considering that what

1406
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,840
this PS five is like at least doubling outsale outselling

1407
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,960
the series series consoles at this point. So I think,

1408
01:03:54,039 --> 01:03:56,480
I think, I think that they are in factually working

1409
01:03:56,519 --> 01:03:59,960
on that portable one, the Steam Deck kind of varying

1410
01:04:00,199 --> 01:04:02,079
type thing. I think that's I think that's a great

1411
01:04:02,079 --> 01:04:04,559
angle to go for Xbox. If they do go that,

1412
01:04:04,599 --> 01:04:06,320
I think that's a much better ute than like a

1413
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:07,079
pro version.

1414
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1415
01:04:08,719 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, would you pick up something like that an Xbox

1416
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:12,920
like Steam Deck essentially?

1417
01:04:13,719 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 2: Probably not.

1418
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: No, you don't really game any to go these days

1419
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:17,239
at all.

1420
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,119
Speaker 2: No, the only gaming on the goal I do is

1421
01:04:19,199 --> 01:04:21,039
my my Nintendo Switch.

1422
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, which like, when's the last time you boot up

1423
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:28,199
your switch? What's last time you played on switch? Oh,

1424
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:29,079
probably would have.

1425
01:04:29,039 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 2: Been at least a few weeks ago, Mario Party Superstars.

1426
01:04:31,639 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: When's the last time you played your switch on the go?

1427
01:04:35,519 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 2: Years?

1428
01:04:36,519 --> 01:04:38,039
Speaker 1: Really? That's crazy?

1429
01:04:38,159 --> 01:04:39,079
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1430
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I feel like i'ven't used mine on

1431
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,360
the go much recently. Like sometimes I'll just play like

1432
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,440
the handheld just on the coach or something like that.

1433
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:51,400
But yeah, very rarely. My am my traveling and playing it,

1434
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:55,360
I guess, just with my life. So cool. Any other

1435
01:04:55,639 --> 01:04:58,360
thoughts on psive pro or any other things you wanted

1436
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,840
to bring up, No, I think that's it cool. Well,

1437
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:03,880
thank you for joining me, Thank you everone for listening.

1438
01:05:04,599 --> 01:05:06,679
Next week I'm very excited for because to my two

1439
01:05:06,719 --> 01:05:09,960
most anticipated games of the year are coming out both

1440
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,519
this week, which is The Plucky Squire and UFO fifty.

1441
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,119
So I'm very excited. This is gonna be a fun

1442
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,639
few days for me, just indulging in my highly anticipated

1443
01:05:19,639 --> 01:05:21,280
games here. So I think Kirkle's gonna be joining me

1444
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,519
back next week because he's me picking up Plucky Squire

1445
01:05:23,559 --> 01:05:26,320
as well, and yeah, excited to talk about those games.

1446
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,679
So thank you everyone for listening. We'll see you again

1447
01:05:28,760 --> 01:06:05,280
next time. Bye bye,