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Speaker 3: I can't ignore it. I did it again. I don't
Speaker 3: know what's what's happening. Maybe it was my recent induction
Speaker 3: of the North Bullet Athletic Hall of Fame, where the
Speaker 3: Bullet County in me is just is just oozing out
Speaker 3: because when I said it was the four o'clock hour,
Speaker 3: I didn't say that. I said, it's the four o'clock hour.
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Speaker 2: Mean, yeah, just Washington. It's you ever.
Speaker 3: Met somebody from Mount Washington. They're gonna let you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: and they'll correct you if you call it Mount Washington.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, at least in there, at least some
Speaker 3: of them will. But anyways, I'm not as worried about
Speaker 3: this YouTube TV situation as as maybe some others are.
Speaker 3: And if you are worried, I get it. But we
Speaker 3: are at a point to where you can just can't.
Speaker 2: I mean, I have YouTube TV. I had it for
Speaker 2: a long time.
Speaker 3: In fact, the price has gone up substantially since I
Speaker 3: signed up, going on gosh eight years now, a seven
Speaker 3: years ish, so you know, I'm you know, it's not
Speaker 3: super cheap, and I remember whenever the latest price increase happened,
Speaker 3: I really did kind of You know, I'm not one
Speaker 3: that I mean.
Speaker 2: I put it this way.
Speaker 3: I'm the guy who pays for these minimal monthly subscriptions
Speaker 3: for things that I forget I signed up for. And
Speaker 3: it's not even it's not even that I am that
Speaker 3: I'm forgetting that I signed up for a trial, because
Speaker 3: that happens a lot. That's how they get you, right,
Speaker 3: You've got a trial for three days and then people
Speaker 3: forget about it, and then they end up paying on
Speaker 3: it for years. I mean, I've done that before, but
Speaker 3: for me, it's more so a all right, it's three
Speaker 3: bucks a month, who cares? And it really isn't much money,
Speaker 3: But it's the waste of money if I don't even
Speaker 3: remember what it is, because clearly I'm not using it.
Speaker 3: So the reason I haven't canceled YouTube TV is just
Speaker 3: because I'm a procrastinator. But when it comes to things
Speaker 3: that I watch, there really isn't anything that I.
Speaker 2: Have to have YouTube TV for.
Speaker 3: I think knowing that I can just I w a
Speaker 3: live TV and pull up a guide is something that
Speaker 3: I would feel lost without.
Speaker 2: Although I will stay corrected.
Speaker 3: Last time we talked about this, I didn't realize that
Speaker 3: if you have ESPN Plus, you don't get all the
Speaker 3: ESPN channels. You have to have a subscription that includes
Speaker 3: the ESPN family of stations in order to get that.
Speaker 3: So you have to have something. But honestly, I hate
Speaker 3: to give them a free plug here, but I kind
Speaker 3: of feel like the best way to do it is
Speaker 3: if you have Internet with Spectrum, which I do, just
Speaker 3: get their digital service and you'll bundle that and you'll
Speaker 3: probably save money because I already have like HBO Max,
Speaker 3: I have Netflix, Hulu, Peacock, Pair Amount, and I don't
Speaker 3: you know, I probably don't need all of those, but
Speaker 3: I have them and I've watched something on all of
Speaker 3: them to where at least at some point I felt like, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm glad I have this. So anyways, YouTube TV is
Speaker 3: my login. What I mean by that is when I
Speaker 3: go to some of these things like ESPN Plus or
Speaker 3: if I'm going to cause you have to, you have
Speaker 3: to sign in and show that you do have a
Speaker 3: subscription to a company that has the rights to have
Speaker 3: these channels that you can watch. So the reason I'm
Speaker 3: bringing this whole thing up, and I probably should have
Speaker 3: led with this instead of just diving right in thinking
Speaker 3: everybody knows, but currently there is a dispute between YouTube
Speaker 3: TV and Paramount. Now, Paramount happens to own all of
Speaker 3: the TV stations that are going to be broadcasting NCAA
Speaker 3: tournament games March Madness. So this is a believe the
Speaker 3: second time YouTube TV in recent months has had a
Speaker 3: dispute that has left customers with some amount of time
Speaker 3: where they won't have a channel that they pay for.
Speaker 3: Now YouTube TV they do, in fact, they do give
Speaker 3: you like you know, they'll I don't know if it's
Speaker 3: they minimize your bill for a brief month. I don't
Speaker 3: know how they do it, but they at least tell you, hey,
Speaker 3: while you're not getting this channel. Well, I guess you
Speaker 3: know what do they call it? I can't think of
Speaker 3: the word bad for somebody that you know talks on
Speaker 3: the radio. But basically they will take out a small
Speaker 3: amount of money from your bill. That is, that is
Speaker 3: essentially you no longer paying for one or two three
Speaker 3: channels that you no longer have access to because of
Speaker 3: their dispute.
Speaker 2: So YouTube TV.
Speaker 3: Subscribers were send an email I believe it was last
Speaker 3: night informing them that Paramount Networks could go dark as
Speaker 3: soon as Tuesday, which if you know which is, you know,
Speaker 3: next Tuesday. I mean it's coming up within the next
Speaker 3: you know, less than a week away. So whenever you
Speaker 3: see both sides, meaning YouTube TV and Paramount, doing the
Speaker 3: pr thing letting everybody know that it's the other one's fault,
Speaker 3: that's when you know that both sides have accepted the
Speaker 3: fact that they're going to blame each other, but they
Speaker 3: know that customers will be without that that channel or
Speaker 3: channels for however long it takes for them to, you know,
Speaker 3: to to get it figured out. So the reason I'm
Speaker 3: not worries because I don't have like a year long
Speaker 3: I don't have like a multi year contract with YouTube TV.
Speaker 3: That is one of the benefits of it. I can
Speaker 3: just cancel at any time and it's done. So then
Speaker 3: I can go sign up for a Hulu Live that'll
Speaker 3: have it. I can go sign up for a Fubo,
Speaker 3: which apparently is really popular. I can do the Spectrum thing,
Speaker 3: which I haven't given much effort as far as looking
Speaker 3: into if it is cheaper. But I kind of feel like,
Speaker 3: since I already pay for internet with Spectrum, if they
Speaker 3: just give me access to their television subscription, digitally where
Speaker 3: I just download their app and watch it on my
Speaker 3: rokup or my smart TV, Like I feel like I
Speaker 3: would save money. So maybe this because look, I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna miss March Madness, I'll cancel. I will This was
Speaker 3: where YouTube TV will lose me and they'll be fine
Speaker 3: without me.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 3: Like I think with their recent price increase, a lot
Speaker 3: of people are starting to think, like, do I really
Speaker 3: need YouTube TV because because I think right now you
Speaker 3: can probably get live TV in that same in the
Speaker 3: same way, meaning you know, streamed for cheaper like Hulu
Speaker 3: Live is a little more expensive, but again you're also
Speaker 3: getting Hulu with it, which has you.
Speaker 2: Know full That's what I have is Hulu Hulu Live.
Speaker 3: You like it?
Speaker 2: I like it? Well, we we steal it off her parents.
Speaker 3: But yes, well you know, regardless of what if what
Speaker 3: you pay or don't pay for it. But as far
Speaker 3: as like the product, you think, it's fine.
Speaker 4: Yes, and it still has it has the ESPN package
Speaker 4: and the ACC network so we get to watch all
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff too. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, again, both sides blame each other. This is
Speaker 3: not just a YouTube TV thing. I mean there have
Speaker 3: been before the digital world really took over as far
Speaker 3: as people now watching television through a streaming platform. I mean,
Speaker 3: there were people that had Direct TV or Dish that
Speaker 3: didn't have like the CBS affiliate for for months. There was,
Speaker 3: in fact, one of the carriers, it might have been
Speaker 3: Dish network that did not have CBS during the NSAA
Speaker 3: tournament one year because they were without it for like months,
Speaker 3: and that a big deal. So, you know, I just
Speaker 3: I bring it up to say you should be prepared
Speaker 3: if you're somebody that has YouTube TV, because a lot
Speaker 3: of people, you know, out of sight, out of mind,
Speaker 3: they're busy, they're not keeping up with this kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: They may just try to turn it on one day
Speaker 3: and not have it. And if that happens, you know,
Speaker 3: don't be alarmed because you know you've been given at
Speaker 3: least somewhat of a heads up.
Speaker 2: And that is the benefit of this new thing.
Speaker 3: Because Direct TV used to get you on these contracts
Speaker 3: where you'd have to sign a multi year deal to
Speaker 3: where if you want out of it, you got to
Speaker 3: pay them money.
Speaker 2: You know, they'll then charge you know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if this was Direct TV or Dish
Speaker 3: or what it was, but there were there were some
Speaker 3: that when you'd cancel your contract if you could get
Speaker 3: out of your contract, as far as the amount you
Speaker 3: would owe to get out, like if if you were
Speaker 3: able to fight your way out of that, what they
Speaker 3: would do is say, well, now you owe us for
Speaker 3: the equipment that you now own that we don't want
Speaker 3: back because it's old, and you know they'll try to
Speaker 3: get you in some way. But it's not just the
Speaker 3: channels that you know have games that are going to
Speaker 3: be having instable A tournament games, because obviously you've got CBS,
Speaker 3: and I mean it sounds weird now, but trust me,
Speaker 3: when we get to March Badness, you'll remember, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: true TV. I do have that channel TVs t n T,
Speaker 3: which I still think it's weird instead of a tournament
Speaker 3: games are on those stations.
Speaker 2: But you know.
Speaker 3: It's been many years now that we've that we've watched
Speaker 3: it that way. So if you're somebody that's listening that
Speaker 3: is not super interested in the instable A tournament, which
Speaker 3: I can't imagine, we reach a lot of those people.
Speaker 3: But just know, Paramount is not just those channels I
Speaker 3: mentioned that are gonna have Instabla tournament games. We're Talking
Speaker 3: Comedy Central, CMT, MTV, all of their channels, v H one, TV,
Speaker 3: Land channels I'm not real familiar with, like Smithsonian Channel, teen, Nick,
Speaker 3: even Paramount, which of course has these humongous hitch these
Speaker 3: these shows that are humongous hits, like Yellowstone and land Man, Nickelodeon, Nick,
Speaker 3: Junior News Nation. So there's a lot of stations that
Speaker 3: are currently included in YouTube TV that if they don't
Speaker 3: figure it out, we're going to be without. And as
Speaker 3: soon as I'm without, that's that's me saying goodbye and
Speaker 3: finding a new one. And you know what'll probably happen
Speaker 3: a few years ago by maybe not even that long,
Speaker 3: and then they'll have another dispute. It'll be Fubo or
Speaker 3: Hulu that's having the same dispute, and then I'll have
Speaker 3: to go to another one that's worked it out. So
Speaker 3: what people said whenever everybody was cutting the cord has
Speaker 3: actually happened, And what they were saying is that we're
Speaker 3: gonna end up paying separately for all this stuff, and
Speaker 3: we're actually gonna end up paying as much.
Speaker 2: Or more than we did when we had one of.
Speaker 3: These subscriptions to a direct TV edition network or a Spectrum,
Speaker 3: Time Warner or whatever it is.
Speaker 4: Do you still know a lot of people that still
Speaker 4: only have like your basic cable packages.
Speaker 3: I don't, and there's a lot of them out there,
Speaker 3: but I don't, and that doesn't surprise me. Like, I mean,
Speaker 3: I think you no both of my I got my
Speaker 3: dad and his wife on YouTube TV when we did it,
Speaker 3: and I think it was and I shouldn't mean that
Speaker 3: like I've convinced him and sold it to them. But
Speaker 3: I think what happens is that you end up maybe
Speaker 3: I don't know, moving, or you're about to redo your
Speaker 3: deal with one of those big companies that's been around forever,
Speaker 3: and you just think, because that's what I did, I
Speaker 3: just said, look, I'll try the streaming thing and if
Speaker 3: it works and I'm saving a lot of money, then
Speaker 3: I'll be fine. If not, I'll go back to it.
Speaker 3: Because I used to be fearful of cutting the cord.
Speaker 3: The thought of needing the internet to watch TV was
Speaker 3: something that made me nervous. But now, I mean, the
Speaker 3: internet is how we do everything. So my mom and
Speaker 3: stepdad they live in an area to where I think,
Speaker 3: in fact, I think it was Dish Network. My stepdad
Speaker 3: he was one of the like put it this way,
Speaker 3: his account number was in the one hundreds, meaning your
Speaker 3: account number is just one by one. So like he
Speaker 3: was in the he was in the you know, he
Speaker 3: was one of the first I don't know couple hundred
Speaker 3: people that ever had direct TV, and it's because where
Speaker 3: he lives at the time, there was no way for
Speaker 3: him to get anything else other than satellite television. And
Speaker 3: that's when that was you know, it's what you know,
Speaker 3: it's what they call it, Dish network. So with Dish Network,
Speaker 3: maybe it was DirecTV one of those two. He was
Speaker 3: there for a long time and you know, a loyal customer,
Speaker 3: and finally they kept they kept raising his bill and
Speaker 3: he would call and say, look, I you know, I
Speaker 3: don't know if I can afford this, or I don't
Speaker 3: know if I can justify this expense, just because it's gone.
Speaker 2: Up quite a bit.
Speaker 3: And for years, and I mean years, they would say, Okay,
Speaker 3: they would see that number and realize this is somebody
Speaker 3: that's been with us forever, and they would they would
Speaker 3: give him somewhat of a discount, and then finally it
Speaker 3: just got so expensive to where they wouldn't you know,
Speaker 3: they wouldn't do that, and he decided to cut the
Speaker 3: cord and that's what led to him having you know,
Speaker 3: YouTube TV like a lot of people do. So it
Speaker 3: is wild though, because you asked me that question, and
Speaker 3: I really, I mean I really. Even my wife's grandparents,
Speaker 3: like they're now on YouTube TV, and that's one's impressed.
Speaker 3: That's something they asked for like two years ago for Christmas, like, hey,
Speaker 3: can you just get us set up? We'll pay the bill,
Speaker 3: but can somebody maybe get us like a road crew
Speaker 3: or help us get it set That's what they wanted
Speaker 3: for Christmas. So there are still plenty of people that
Speaker 3: utilize either a dish satellite or your basic cable which
Speaker 3: is which is spectrum here locally. But I don't know
Speaker 3: many like people that I you know, that are in
Speaker 3: my life, whether it be friends, family, colleagues. I mean
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. I can't tell you who each
Speaker 3: and every one of my you know who my friends
Speaker 3: and family. I can't tell you what they all have.
Speaker 3: But anybody that like I'm at their house or we
Speaker 3: end up talking about what you have, they don't have
Speaker 3: it anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just kind of you know, wild world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the cord cutting thing sure enough, really took off
Speaker 3: in like the last five or six years.
Speaker 4: And it's come back full circle now to where there's
Speaker 4: now you can't skip commercials unless you have like the
Speaker 4: premium edition of it. And then now mostly a lot
Speaker 4: of these sites are doing what their premium shows. They
Speaker 4: only release like half a season and wait until like
Speaker 4: six months down the road to do the other half.
Speaker 4: And that's what I thought, that we cut the cord
Speaker 4: forward for the binge watching process, the no commercials process,
Speaker 4: and it's kind of came full circle all the way
Speaker 4: back to where it's.
Speaker 2: Like cable again.
Speaker 4: And I guess my biggest problem, I guess is when
Speaker 4: it's like football season and they'll sometimes like to do
Speaker 4: things on Peacock or on Netflix or what they did
Speaker 4: this past year. Just like first world problems. I just
Speaker 4: hate jumping from app to app because I like the
Speaker 4: channel surf and so it's not that easy to do.
Speaker 4: These apps take a good ten seconds to boot up,
Speaker 4: and you're missing valuable action, especially when you have when
Speaker 4: any have plays on the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I can live with that, and really, more
Speaker 3: than anything, I'm just used to it now. But I
Speaker 3: will say whenever I'm at like and this is a
Speaker 3: weird When I'm at a hotel and they you can
Speaker 3: tell they're not relying on a connection as far as Internet.
Speaker 2: They're relying on.
Speaker 3: Like that coax cable that's in the back of the TV.
Speaker 3: It's more instantaneous like that is like a pretty awesome feeling, like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I didn't have to wait like a second and a
Speaker 3: half or maybe just a second before it got me
Speaker 3: to where I needed to go. But again, I've now
Speaker 3: done it for eight nine years to where I'm clearly
Speaker 3: used to it. But I'm reading here at awful Announcing
Speaker 3: dot Com that it seems like they're speculating that both sides,
Speaker 3: meaning YouTube TV and Paramount, see mid March as sort
Speaker 3: of like an unofficial deadline with March Madness getting close.
Speaker 3: But so far they have made and this is where
Speaker 3: we are, and it's not uncommon where it's public from
Speaker 3: both sides that they're blaming the other one. That means
Speaker 3: they're ready to fight. And three people have texted in
Speaker 3: in this segment to say that whenever they had Spectrum
Speaker 3: and there was an issue with ESPN and Disney, I
Speaker 3: forgot all about this. When Jeff Bram coached his first game,
Speaker 3: when Louisville played Georgia Tech on a Friday night in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: I forgot that if you had Spectrum, you were not
Speaker 3: able to watch because of a similar dispute, and that
Speaker 3: led to people really just you know, having the initiative
Speaker 3: and the real you know, like if there's something that's
Speaker 3: going to really get you to look into what other
Speaker 3: options you have as far as how you consume television.
Speaker 3: Not being able to watch your favorite team play, considering
Speaker 3: it's probably the only thing you really watch live, like
Speaker 3: that'll get you to do it.
Speaker 2: And then I bet.
Speaker 3: And again, these three people that have texted in in
Speaker 3: this segment have said that, like they should have done
Speaker 3: it lot a lot longer ago, because it's true, like
Speaker 3: nobody watches anything live for the most part of even sports, right,
Speaker 3: like even the news, Like even the news. I I
Speaker 3: find myself maybe it's just me getting older. I do
Speaker 3: watch the news because you know, I I mean, it's
Speaker 3: not something I watch every day, but like if there's
Speaker 3: nothing on, I'll put it on the news if it's on, sure,
Speaker 3: But also if I want to just watch the news,
Speaker 3: I now can watch it. If the news came on
Speaker 3: at you know, ten pm on DRB and I wanted
Speaker 3: to watch DRB.
Speaker 2: I can, I can?
Speaker 3: I know that at midnight, I can just pull it
Speaker 3: up and it'll you know, it'll be there because it's
Speaker 3: in my cloud.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So as far as what you really have to watch live,
Speaker 3: it's sports. I mean, you don't have to watch it live,
Speaker 3: but it's just certain sporting events. It's going to be
Speaker 3: hard for you to not know what the outcome is
Speaker 3: of a game unless you're watching it live, because it's just,
Speaker 3: you know, it's everywhere now. You can't pull up your
Speaker 3: phone on a social media app and not you know,
Speaker 3: see a score of a game that you were hoping
Speaker 3: to not see.
Speaker 2: It's just how it is.
Speaker 3: Especially if like you're thinking about the game and hoping
Speaker 3: that you don't see it, you'll probably pull out your
Speaker 3: phone and one of these apps is going to be
Speaker 3: able to read your mind, like we talked about yesterday
Speaker 3: and show you what they think you want to see.
Speaker 4: I will say there is something comforting about like when
Speaker 4: I used to get off at a good time or
Speaker 4: just you know, I get home a little bit later now,
Speaker 4: but there is always something comforting and getting home and
Speaker 4: like watching the news and chilling out because that's always
Speaker 4: what I used to do when I can't, like, that's
Speaker 4: what that's what my parents did, and like Wheel of
Speaker 4: Fortune would come on, and then like Jeopardy. I don't
Speaker 4: mind watching that kind of stuff live, but it's just
Speaker 4: unless I make it an option to go out of
Speaker 4: my way to do that, then I really don't. But
Speaker 4: I will say there is something comforting about watching that.
Speaker 4: It makes me feel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you don't know, but you don't seek it
Speaker 2: out right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sitting home and like I got to
Speaker 4: turn on the news, will of Fortune's coming on. If
Speaker 4: I just happen to be on the TV and I'm
Speaker 4: channel surfing and it's on, then that's on a watch.
Speaker 2: I'd be willing to bet that.
Speaker 3: If you're listening to this right now, rather it be
Speaker 3: on podcasts or live, think to yourself in the last
Speaker 3: couple of years when it comes to moments where you
Speaker 3: felt like you had to find a TV because you
Speaker 3: had to watch, or you had to find the device
Speaker 3: because you had to watch live. I would be willing
Speaker 3: to bet ninety nine percent of those instances have been
Speaker 3: sports and nothing else. There are the occasional and this
Speaker 3: speak this is how you know how powerful a TV
Speaker 3: show is, because there's certain shows that people can wait
Speaker 3: and let it build and binge it, or they can
Speaker 3: watch it the next day. But if it gets talked
Speaker 3: about so much, you want to watch it live because
Speaker 3: you don't want to be spoiled. Think of Game of
Speaker 3: Thrones being one of those shows. Great show Yellowstone became
Speaker 3: one of those shows. It breaking bad love it towards
Speaker 3: the end of it was that because it really wasn't
Speaker 3: even about like the streaming thing. It was people with
Speaker 3: DVR it or you know, maybe they maybe at that
Speaker 3: time they did have where you could just have a
Speaker 3: library of endless space to record anything, which a lot
Speaker 3: of these platforms like YouTube TV have, But you knew
Speaker 3: people were going to be talking about it at work
Speaker 3: on Facebook wherever to where you knew if I didn't
Speaker 3: watch it live, I'm gonna get spoiled.
Speaker 2: Water cooler talk. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So so there are rare shows that you just kind
Speaker 3: of have to watch live. But other than that, it's
Speaker 3: just sports. And that's why I really feel like, I mean,
Speaker 3: if ESPN decided to or of Disney decided to offload
Speaker 3: ESPN to like a Netflix or something like that, would
Speaker 3: change everything. Yeah, it's not that the only sports we
Speaker 3: watch are on on ESPN, but a lot of them are.
Speaker 3: And I just like, we have so much we can
Speaker 3: get lost in with our phones with whatever to where
Speaker 3: like it's almost insulting for you to tell me I
Speaker 3: got it.
Speaker 2: What do you say?
Speaker 3: I gotta tell me I can't watch it if I'm
Speaker 3: not there in front of my TV at four o'clock.
Speaker 2: See you, I got other things to do.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just but sports is different and it
Speaker 3: and I don't see that ever changing because sports is
Speaker 3: growing in popularity as far as viewership and the you know,
Speaker 3: the scenario where you could get lost and watch it
Speaker 3: a day or two later without knowing what happens. That
Speaker 3: becomes growingly more difficult with you know, these things we
Speaker 3: have in our hands called phones that tell us anything
Speaker 3: we want at any time and can honestly read our brains.
Speaker 4: It seems like my mom has to watch Big Brother Live.
Speaker 4: She loves that show, and she has a paramount plus
Speaker 4: where you can like watch, yeah, you could watch like
Speaker 4: everything that's going like a twenty four hour web feed. No,
Speaker 4: she still wants to watch the live show every single week.
Speaker 3: Well, and that is different because that is a live
Speaker 3: like that's a live show, Like that's a live thing,
Speaker 3: meaning like you're watching it as it's as it's happening,
Speaker 3: which again even that's rare in television this day and age.
Speaker 3: All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side.
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Speaker 3: So if you listened during the break to our Fox
Speaker 3: National Update, Fox Worts Radio National Update, Travis Hunter going
Speaker 3: to be working out at the NFL Draft combine as
Speaker 3: a defensive back, and that was a big discussion throughout
Speaker 3: his very special Heisman winning season where he was really
Speaker 3: effective at both spots. And I mean, if I was
Speaker 3: a team that was going to be the Titans are
Speaker 3: going to draft him, right, That's what everybody seems to
Speaker 3: believe because they have the first pick, don't they.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4: I could see a scenario where the Titans possibly trade
Speaker 4: that pick and maybe go after ros I've heard some
Speaker 4: steam about.
Speaker 3: That, but Aaron Baron Rodgers is available, like you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like you don't need to trade for him,
Speaker 3: he's he got cut right.
Speaker 4: Well if they if they, well that that that's true,
Speaker 4: I guess, But I've I've heard him, and I've also
Speaker 4: seen steam of Shador going there. But it looks like
Speaker 4: Shador also likes Oakland and possibly that's what Dion.
Speaker 2: Likes to Look.
Speaker 4: If you just seems like they would number one pick,
Speaker 4: they would obviously take the quarterback.
Speaker 3: Well but but but that, I mean I was literally
Speaker 3: getting ready to say anybody who like this quarterback class
Speaker 3: and the grand scheme of things sucks. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: got to be one of the weakest quarterback classes ever.
Speaker 3: I mean, don't quote me on that. I'm sure you
Speaker 3: can find some that are worse. And maybe and look,
Speaker 3: maybe I'm way wrong. And and by the way, that's
Speaker 3: not just my opinion. It's a pretty well known thing
Speaker 3: that this is not a great quarterback class. But everybody's
Speaker 3: so desperate to find a new quarterback that could change
Speaker 3: everything about their franchise. But I just if you're the
Speaker 3: Titans and you draft one of these quarterbacks number one,
Speaker 3: I mean, I think you'd have to look in the
Speaker 3: mirror if it did work out. And I don't mean
Speaker 3: it doesn't work out. As far as like a guy
Speaker 3: being like a super Bowl champion, but like, even when
Speaker 3: you have the number one pick, you got to take
Speaker 3: a quarterback that you don't only think can help you win,
Speaker 3: but he's got to be able to be your franchise.
Speaker 3: And there's not one of those guys in this class.
Speaker 3: So but again, the desperation for a quarterback never is
Speaker 3: never going to go away. But like if Sanders goes
Speaker 3: number one of the Titans, I mean, even if he's
Speaker 3: I think put it this way, the ceiling for him,
Speaker 3: in my opinion, would be to wear years down the line.
Speaker 3: Even if he's not a bust and people say he's
Speaker 3: pretty good, you'd probably say he wasn't a number one pick.
Speaker 3: But again, quarterbacks are just different. So if I was
Speaker 3: the Titans, I would be greedy for a quarterback probably,
Speaker 3: but I'd like to think I would have the awareness that, yeah,
Speaker 3: like Will Evis is in the future, but let's get
Speaker 3: somebody who can be super valuable to us that's not
Speaker 3: a quarterback. Instead of just being so desperate for a QB,
Speaker 3: let's ride with Levis for another year, or maybe somehow
Speaker 3: go and get Rogers or another free agent, or maybe
Speaker 3: go get Donald or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Like, honestly, if I was somebody that knew quarterback was
Speaker 3: a real need for me, and I had a top
Speaker 3: five pick, I would get the best player available and
Speaker 3: then go try to get either Sam.
Speaker 2: Darnold or Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, that's right, that's what I
Speaker 2: would do.
Speaker 3: So the defensive back position, it really isn't sexy like
Speaker 3: a quarterback.
Speaker 2: Or even a receiver, so it is valuable. Oh absolutely,
Speaker 2: it is insanely valuable.
Speaker 3: So that's why I think this is actually the right
Speaker 3: move because if he I mean, look, first of all,
Speaker 3: you could still get paid big time money as an
Speaker 3: elite defensive back. I feel like receivers, there are clearly
Speaker 3: some that are really good, but it's been proven, man,
Speaker 3: you can be a really good receiver that produces on
Speaker 3: a team that wins. They can lose you and you
Speaker 3: can still be good. I mean, look a look at
Speaker 3: the Bills they lost Diggs. Dix has actually been really good.
Speaker 3: Nobody would deny that, but.
Speaker 2: His teams have been able to be just good without him,
Speaker 2: sometimes better. Yep.
Speaker 3: I mean, so you can lose an elite receiver and
Speaker 3: know that you lost production. But I feel like, man,
Speaker 3: if you've got a good if you've got other good
Speaker 3: things in place, you can go get a receiver that
Speaker 3: can help you win games to where they're not maybe
Speaker 3: the best in the league, but like it's good enough
Speaker 3: to where you can still be successful if other pieces
Speaker 3: are in a good place, so the best Not only
Speaker 3: is this the right decision for for I mean a team,
Speaker 3: like if you know, because if Travis Hunter was somebody
Speaker 3: that said I only am going to play receiver, Like
Speaker 3: if he was that kind of a diva, then it
Speaker 3: would be different because maybe you wouldn't draft him one
Speaker 3: or two because you feel like, man, that's a big investment,
Speaker 3: meaning the first overall pick for a guy that like
Speaker 3: might be good, but we'll always be wondering could we
Speaker 3: get more out of him if he was a defensive back?
Speaker 3: Now correct me if I'm wrong. Austin hasn't He kind
Speaker 3: of always been viewed as a prospect on the defensive
Speaker 3: side of the ball, but everybody just knows he can
Speaker 3: do a little bit of everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I'm pretty sure when he was like
Speaker 4: the number one prospect a couple of years ago, he
Speaker 4: was as a dB.
Speaker 3: And I feel like, if you're elite at the defensive
Speaker 3: back position. Your longevity is different. Like guys can play.
Speaker 3: I mean some guys kind of fall off late, but
Speaker 3: I feel like the receiver fall off is way more
Speaker 3: of a thing. And it's not necessarily because they get
Speaker 3: old and they just break down. But like new and
Speaker 3: young receivers come into where it's a pretty competitive landscape
Speaker 3: to where like, for example, like Devonte Adams and is
Speaker 3: that who has ended up in New York this year
Speaker 3: with Rogers.
Speaker 2: Yes, like he left the Raiders.
Speaker 3: Nobody should be doing anything insane to go get him.
Speaker 2: He's good. I'm not insulting him like he's a bum.
Speaker 2: But you don't.
Speaker 3: He's not a piece that's gonna substantially change the outlook
Speaker 3: of your franchise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 4: You lose a lot of draft capital or pay a
Speaker 4: lot of your cap space to go get a I
Speaker 4: think he's thirty thirty year old receiver, at least close
Speaker 4: to thirty year old receiver. When you can just draft
Speaker 4: another person, or if you already have, like a good quarterback,
Speaker 4: someone that's gonna make them a good receiver.
Speaker 3: This is gonna sound like a hot take, and it's
Speaker 3: gonna sound you know, it's gonna it's it's honestly gonna
Speaker 3: make me sound probably foolish to some, but I.
Speaker 2: Want you to hear me out. Sure, and there are
Speaker 2: a lot of really.
Speaker 3: Good receivers that make their teams a lot better their weapons.
Speaker 3: But as far as guys that you know, you just
Speaker 3: think to yourself, man, it's not fair. I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: going Jamar Chase, Justin, Jefferson, Tyreek Hill, and I'll still
Speaker 3: throw Ceed Lamb in there. And yes, I'm aware that
Speaker 3: Saint Brown was great in Detroit, and I know that
Speaker 3: Cooper Cup has been consistent, Mike Evans is still putting
Speaker 3: up big numbers, Stefon Diggs super talented. Any team would
Speaker 3: be lucky to have all these guys I'm mentioning, But
Speaker 3: there's a difference in Okay, this is somebody that gives
Speaker 3: us an almost unfair advantage because what they can do.
Speaker 3: I think Jamar Chase, Justin, Jefferson, Cede Lamb, Man, I'm
Speaker 3: still putting Tyreek Hill there because there are times where
Speaker 3: you watch him and you just think, Okay, what are
Speaker 3: you supposed to do when that happens. So it's not
Speaker 3: like we don't need any of these guys kick him
Speaker 3: out of the league, We'll just get a bunch of
Speaker 3: undrafted rookies. Like it's not what I'm saying, but when
Speaker 3: it comes to investment meaning and really more than an investment,
Speaker 3: it's an opportunity because it's not really an investment because
Speaker 3: you can get them on a rookie deal. If they're
Speaker 3: as good as you think they are, you know you're
Speaker 3: going to pay them way more down the line. So
Speaker 3: I just feel like Travis Hunter as a he could
Speaker 3: be a standalone defensive back. If his ceiling is what
Speaker 3: people think it is and he hits it as a
Speaker 3: defensive back, he'll play for a long time as long
Speaker 3: as he's healthy, and he'll be somebody that makes an
Speaker 3: insane amount of money. I mean, there's a reason why
Speaker 3: Adrian Peterson and this is different, Like he's not a receiver.
Speaker 3: But I feel like if you are a guy, if
Speaker 3: you're an athlete like Travis.
Speaker 2: Hunter, and not many are, he's special, we know that.
Speaker 3: But if you are somebody that at an early age
Speaker 3: you're doing everything for your team in high school, you're
Speaker 3: fifteen sixteen, you're kind of you know, you're kind of
Speaker 3: seeing which position schools are really coming after you for
Speaker 3: and you're kind of deciding, Okay, when I get to
Speaker 3: the top, meaning high level college or the NFL, I'm
Speaker 3: not playing both sides. So if you end up in that,
Speaker 3: So when you're in that very formidable age as a player,
Speaker 3: kind of deciding what am I going to really because
Speaker 3: if you're going to be a defensive back or you're
Speaker 3: going to be a running back, like you're really going
Speaker 3: to train differently and you're going to build your body differently.
Speaker 3: But Adrian Peterson, who of course you know, had a
Speaker 3: long career in the NFL. I'm only using him as
Speaker 3: an example because he said this year's ago, and it
Speaker 3: always stood out to me if he could go back,
Speaker 3: he wish somebody would told him, And maybe they couldn't
Speaker 3: have told him at the time because I don't think
Speaker 3: anybody saw the running back position becoming what it is today.
Speaker 3: But he basically claimed that if he just developed at
Speaker 3: a teenage age to be a defensive back, he would
Speaker 3: have probably made a lot more money, and he probably
Speaker 3: wouldn't have near the wear and tear, and he would
Speaker 3: have played a lot longer in the NFL. So like
Speaker 3: I think, it may not be like you could have
Speaker 3: a phenomenal game as a defensive back, and I mean
Speaker 3: a phenomenal game, damn near flawless, and not have a
Speaker 3: Sports Center top play, not be a guy that everybody's
Speaker 3: talking about because they're putting you on their fantasy team
Speaker 3: like that kind of stuff matters for your brand. But
Speaker 3: the better play is to be a defensive back and
Speaker 3: be great at that, and you will last in the
Speaker 3: NFL for a long time. You'll make endless amounts of
Speaker 3: money and last I check. That's really what it comes
Speaker 3: down to, is you know, and again, if you can
Speaker 3: help your team and on both sides, maybe they'll do it.
Speaker 3: But I don't see a scenario where there's ever a
Speaker 3: full time guy in the NFL that's an elite player,
Speaker 3: like a star, that is literally contributing on both sides. Honestly,
Speaker 3: even in college, what he did was rare, right, like
Speaker 3: it's never been seen before as far as him being
Speaker 3: so good at receiver and as defensive back. So I
Speaker 3: think it's the right move. It's the better play long term,
Speaker 3: and I think I think the Titans will probably I
Speaker 3: mean I think they'll take him and either give Levis
Speaker 3: another run. I mean, I wouldn't if I was them,
Speaker 3: but but they may real quick on the NFL draft come.
Speaker 3: We now know of the four Louisville players that are
Speaker 3: going to be there participating in the combine, basically getting
Speaker 3: a chance to more extensively than others show what they
Speaker 3: can do. Right, There's a lot of guys who don't
Speaker 3: get to the combine, they get drafted that have great
Speaker 3: careers in the NFL because they don't invite everybody but
Speaker 3: four players for Louisville. Tyler Schuck, who of course has
Speaker 3: gotten all the buzz as of late. That's pretty exciting.
Speaker 3: We've talked about it quite a bit in the last
Speaker 3: week or so. But I still think jan Corey Brooks
Speaker 3: could be a guy that, you know, he may be
Speaker 3: a guy that somebody drafts and they say, look, we
Speaker 3: don't need to go sign it Tovanta Adams or I
Speaker 3: don't know, we don't need to go go out of
Speaker 3: our way to to give Garrett Wilson or DJ Moore
Speaker 3: a long term deal because we got this guy as
Speaker 3: a rookie who we think can play like I could
Speaker 3: see Ja Cory being a guy that has a good
Speaker 3: NFL career, and then Quincy Riley kind of an Incan
Speaker 3: and he's always good, but like at times his draft
Speaker 3: stock looked really good and at times it kind of fell,
Speaker 3: but clearly he's shown he can make plays. And then man,
Speaker 3: a guy that I just kind of forget about is
Speaker 3: Ashton Jelatt who had a Fino domintal career at Louisville
Speaker 3: and at times it kind of seemed quiet. But imagine
Speaker 3: what that guy could do if he's not getting double
Speaker 3: and triple teamed like he's got the skill, he's got
Speaker 3: the talent, and I wouldn't be shocked if he also
Speaker 3: has a long stretch in the NFL. And hopefully those
Speaker 3: guys again can last in the league. And we all
Speaker 3: know that that helps you, right, I mean the more
Speaker 3: relevance and I guess the more I guess relevance is
Speaker 3: it's not the word I was thinking of, but you know,
Speaker 3: the more, the more so that your brand, your program
Speaker 3: is in the NBA or the NFL, it's just gonna
Speaker 3: it can't put it this way.
Speaker 2: It can only help you. It's not gona hurt you.
Speaker 3: When it comes to other up and coming players that
Speaker 3: also want to get to the NFL the NBA, if
Speaker 3: they see guys they watch on a weekly basis, on
Speaker 3: a nightly basis in the NBA, they're gonna think, Okay,
Speaker 3: that's that's a that's a pathway for me. If I
Speaker 3: go there and eyeball out, I can find myself in
Speaker 3: the pros as well. All right, quick break, we'll come
Speaker 3: back and wrap up the four o'clock hour. Keep this
Speaker 3: thing rolling along. We'll let you what Pat Kelsey had
Speaker 3: to say about Chucky Hepburn, Chuck Chucky Hepburn getting snubbed
Speaker 3: from the Bob Coosey Award finalist. I guess it's the
Speaker 3: top ten that they put out. And also he talked
Speaker 3: about James Scott's mask, which I got to admit.
Speaker 2: Is really badass.
Speaker 3: I just wish he didn't look so uncomfortable in him
Speaker 3: because you could tell he hated life wearing that thing,
Speaker 3: and I think I would too. All right, quick break,
Speaker 3: we'll come back, Keep it rolling along. It's Coffee and
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Speaker 2: Little Dirk's Bentley right, that's right? Is he still kind
Speaker 2: of a big deal?
Speaker 3: Or uh?
Speaker 2: I think so? I mean, he's a name that like
Speaker 2: nobody's just gonna forget about. But like I don't like.
Speaker 3: The reason I ask is because he is somebody that
Speaker 3: I feel like really kind of became a name within
Speaker 3: country music around the time I was finishing high school,
Speaker 3: which honestly was a long time ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, around like the mid two thousand, had a.
Speaker 3: Lot of hits, had some, had some you know, I
Speaker 3: had some good years and live in gold.
Speaker 2: He also just came out with a new bourbon.
Speaker 4: He actually did like a bourbon release probably about a
Speaker 4: couple of months ago that I was fortunate enough to
Speaker 4: be uh to go to a part of w AMZ
Speaker 4: and he signed. He signed his bourbon for me and everything,
Speaker 4: and he hooked me up for free. I did the
Speaker 4: old I wasn't planning on getting it today. It's not
Speaker 4: in my budget, right and he's like, no, man, here
Speaker 4: take this, and he signed it. It said God bless
Speaker 4: on the front.
Speaker 2: He knows, he knows, he knows you're the man. He knows.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 4: But I feel bad because like I was kind of
Speaker 4: in a hurry to leave because I had something else
Speaker 4: to do. And then I put it in my bag
Speaker 4: and then it smeared the whole autograph on his on
Speaker 4: his bottle.
Speaker 2: Did he drink the bourbon yet? I did? Yes.
Speaker 4: I broke it out for kind of like a when
Speaker 4: we went over family's house for the holidays, and it
Speaker 4: was actually pretty good bourbon. But like where he the
Speaker 4: personalized message was smudged. But on the back he also
Speaker 4: still signed it too. He signed the front in the back.
Speaker 4: The back was okay. The front was kind of, you know,
Speaker 4: messed up. I drank it all, but I still kept
Speaker 4: the bottle. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 3: So I'm looking here Rod ninety four, what it's called
Speaker 3: his last Uh, there's a song called Gold that apparently
Speaker 3: did well in country. I don't know that one very well,
Speaker 3: but beers on me. I definitely remember that. That was
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, and then I'm sure if I heard gone. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's had I mean, he's he's been pretty consistent.
Speaker 2: You go back to kind of country state. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: go back.
Speaker 3: To you know, two thousand and three, which was the
Speaker 3: song you just played, which is crazy. That song's twenty
Speaker 3: two years old.
Speaker 2: He was number one in.
Speaker 3: The country charts with what was I thinking in two
Speaker 3: thousand and three, and he's had many other top ten
Speaker 3: hits since then. So yeah, I just feel like he
Speaker 3: hasn't been as relevant lately because it seems like every
Speaker 3: month there's a new country artist that looks more like
Speaker 3: a frat guy than a country singer.
Speaker 2: But hey, that's you know. Times are changing. Times are changing.
Speaker 3: So before we get to the top of the hour here,
Speaker 3: we'll stick with the NFL since we have such little
Speaker 3: time left. Aaron Rodgers. We found out during Super Bowl
Speaker 3: week last week that the Jets let him know, hey,
Speaker 3: you know, see you later, and today they posted something
Speaker 3: because for some reason it became official today, which is weird,
Speaker 3: like ESPN had breaking news. The Jets have said goodbye
Speaker 3: to Aaron Rodgers and I'm like that was last week.
Speaker 2: But ESPN is known for doing that.
Speaker 3: To where they are, they think they're above everybody, so
Speaker 3: they won't actually like they don't.
Speaker 2: They don't believe. They don't even know who.
Speaker 3: You are if you broke it first, so sorry, we
Speaker 3: just don't. We don't even know who you are, so
Speaker 3: if you did our mistake.
Speaker 2: There have been people.
Speaker 3: Who've actually tried to fight them as far as like, hey,
Speaker 3: you you claim you broke the story and I did
Speaker 3: it two days ago and they're like, oh, what do
Speaker 3: you want us to do?
Speaker 2: We don't know you, that kind of thing.
Speaker 3: But anyways, the Jets today put out a Twitter post
Speaker 3: that says, for everything, thank you for everything you've given
Speaker 3: us the past two years, and then a picture of
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, and I I refuse to believe that they
Speaker 3: didn't do this to be funny. Now, the Jets would
Speaker 3: be the franchise that would not read the room and
Speaker 3: realize that he did nothing for them. Yeah, but there's
Speaker 3: there's no scenario that whoever in the Jets front office,
Speaker 3: whoever within the Jets organization posted this could have this
Speaker 3: much inability to read the room, Like you have to
Speaker 3: have a teeny tiny amount awareness, teeny tiny amount of
Speaker 3: awareness to know that you're walking into a joke. And
Speaker 3: it kind of makes me think they wanted Rogers to
Speaker 3: get joked on. The Jets have been getting joked on
Speaker 3: for decades, like they're used to it. But again, it
Speaker 3: says for everything you've given us over the past two years,
Speaker 3: thank you eight who Rogers War number eight, And I
Speaker 3: mean the comments are exactly what you what you would expect.
Speaker 3: The internet, man, it's a beautiful place and sometimes I
Speaker 3: can't quite put into words on the radio as to
Speaker 3: how funny something is.
Speaker 2: You have to actually just see it.
Speaker 3: But like, there's this guy who I don't even know,
Speaker 3: Like I don't know how this becomes such a thing,
Speaker 3: but there's this video of this guy has this like
Speaker 3: solution kind of thing on his arm, like a substance,
Speaker 3: like a liquid, yeah, and he's wiping it off. And
Speaker 3: I don't know if theyre's showing like something on your
Speaker 3: body getting clean off, or if they're removing something, But
Speaker 3: a lot of people share this video that like, for example,
Speaker 3: the first time I saw it, it was and this
Speaker 3: was actually funny to me, it says, and again it's
Speaker 3: just because it's rivalry and it's just, you know, my
Speaker 3: bar is low as far as what makes me laugh.
Speaker 3: But it said, look this crazy Kentucky fan got a
Speaker 3: tattoo of all the Kentucky Heisman Trophy winners and it's
Speaker 3: just him wiping off his arm and there's nothing there
Speaker 3: in there.
Speaker 2: Again, the bar, the bar's low for me, and.
Speaker 3: Then everybody's so again, the comments here are sensational. It's
Speaker 3: got Aaron Rodgers Jets career highlights and it just shows
Speaker 3: him running out with the flag on nine to eleven.
Speaker 3: Only that then taras Achilles three plays into that game.
Speaker 3: I mean, in fact, somebody said, here's what he gave you.
Speaker 3: Year one, three snaps, year two, your head coach fired
Speaker 3: issues in the locker room five and thirteen record Like, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, he was Nathaniel Hackett, he did nothing.
Speaker 3: And there's this is a screenshot from like a documentary,
Speaker 3: some kind of true Crome documentary. I recognize what I'm
Speaker 3: looking at it. I can't think of which documentary it is,
Speaker 3: but it's just somebody, somebody sitting in a room interrogating
Speaker 3: like a criminal and says, is that everything you're referring
Speaker 3: to in the room with us now? And it's just
Speaker 3: these two people, like it's imaginary, it's not real, And
Speaker 3: uh yeah, I mean I feel like those two kind
Speaker 3: of deserve each other. But then again, the Jets are
Speaker 3: just lousy. They're not like they're easy to make fun of.
Speaker 3: They're not like hateable, are they No? Because they're never
Speaker 3: like to be hateable, you have to have done something right.
Speaker 2: They're a dumpster fire franchise.
Speaker 3: I mean, and they kind of know it too, which
Speaker 3: I actually find I find that to be a plus
Speaker 3: a positive for a franchise and a fan base that
Speaker 3: can that can you know, make fun of themselves. Maybe
Speaker 3: they do it because they it softens the blow if
Speaker 3: others make fun of them, Like, hey, you can't hurt me,
Speaker 3: I'm already hurt. Look, I'll make fun of my own team,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like the Browns have always
Speaker 3: been great at that, by the way.
Speaker 2: And then there's you know, there's like.
Speaker 3: Even like even FanDuel, the official fan account that has
Speaker 3: you know, a ton of followers, is just posting a
Speaker 3: picture of a woman in an empty aisle at the
Speaker 3: grocery store, pointing at empty at pointing at how empty
Speaker 3: it is, and it says looking for everything, Like that's
Speaker 3: not like a knee slapping of you know.
Speaker 2: Gut busting joke. But like they there's no scenario.
Speaker 3: They did this not expecting this exact reaction, And what
Speaker 3: it does is just confirm to me that, like they
Speaker 3: want people to make fun of Aaron Rodgers because there's
Speaker 3: a reason they let him walk and told him to
Speaker 3: kick rocks. Yeah, did you see what they told him
Speaker 3: that he couldn't like they had Like I don't know
Speaker 3: if I believe that, Like it didn't work out there
Speaker 3: because he refused to you know, he refused to follow
Speaker 3: with their stipulations. But they did tell him they did
Speaker 3: not want him going on the Pat mcapee show, and
Speaker 3: apparently he was bothered by that. I don't feel like
Speaker 3: that is a request that that franchise would make unless they,
Speaker 3: you know, had a guy like Rogers who would go
Speaker 3: on there and say things just to get a rise
Speaker 3: out of people, just to be controversial, just to be
Speaker 3: you know, a yeah, like, he has such a to me,
Speaker 3: he has such a glaring insecurity that he needs the
Speaker 3: McAfee platform to really just go out there.
Speaker 2: And and again, to.
Speaker 3: Me, there's a little I wouldn't make the comparison here
Speaker 3: as far as like exactly the same, but there's a
Speaker 3: little bit of Kyrie Irving and Aaron Rodgers Kyrie.
Speaker 2: I feel like learn from it.
Speaker 3: He lost an insanely lucrative Nike deal because of his
Speaker 3: woke not as woke, but like his I guess maybe
Speaker 3: you could say anti woke, but just him like wanting
Speaker 3: to have this brand that you know everybody else is stupid.
Speaker 3: I'm intellectually on a level that you guys will never
Speaker 3: get to. Rogers has that as well, and I think
Speaker 3: that that the McAfee show worked out perfect for that,
Speaker 3: And honestly, I think McAfee kind of knows too, like
Speaker 3: this guy's like, this guy's a joke kind of But hey,
Speaker 3: I know people are gonna watch when he when he's
Speaker 3: on because its exactly exactly so Aaron Rodgers gonna end
Speaker 3: up somewhere and he'll probably still win because I think
Speaker 3: he's that good. But I'm always gonna enjoy seeing him,
Speaker 3: you know, go through this kind of stuff, which a
Speaker 3: can makes me an awful human, but hey, it's sports,
Speaker 3: it's not personal.
Speaker 2: I don't know him, but he's a villain to me.
Speaker 2: I kind of think that he's got to be a
Speaker 2: villain to you. You're a Vikings fan, right, Oh?
Speaker 4: Absolutely? And I think met Rogers everybody. I think he's cooked.
Speaker 4: I don't think the arm's there anymore. I don't think
Speaker 4: the will to play anymore is there.
Speaker 3: And you a real shame if that's how it played out, right, Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: all right, five o'clock hours.
Speaker 2: Next, we'll dive back into the.
Speaker 3: Louisville basketball conversation, some Pat Kelsey sound, some bracketology updates,
Speaker 3: and who knows what other nonsense we're going to get into.
Speaker 3: It's coffee, the company, feel abou Thornes right here on
Speaker 3: Sports Talk seven ninety