WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:07.559 You're listening to KFI AM sixty on demand. Terry, Welcome 2 00:00:07.559 --> 00:00:08.480 to the Jesus Christ Show. 3 00:00:09.320 --> 00:00:13.279 Thank you. I talked to you with regard to my 4 00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:14.839 sister who was in the hospital dying. 5 00:00:15.160 --> 00:00:17.359 Yes, she was an alcoholic, yes, and. 6 00:00:17.320 --> 00:00:20.359 Her husband and let me just throw in that my 7 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:22.960 husband and I took her twin girls from three to 8 00:00:22.960 --> 00:00:27.160 ten years old. Anyways, they fought us until they got 9 00:00:27.239 --> 00:00:30.239 him back. But anyway, there it was always strained. Let's 10 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:33.679 just leave it there. Anyway, you told me to talk 11 00:00:33.719 --> 00:00:36.840 to my sister, or suggested that I see that she was. 12 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:40.039 She was paralyzed and was incoherent, but I talked to 13 00:00:40.079 --> 00:00:42.920 her anyway. I hope you're really good with the Lord 14 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:46.159 if you if you repent, he will take you to heaven. 15 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:50.560 You'll be forgiven. I mean paralyzed, in incoherent. Her entire 16 00:00:50.640 --> 00:00:55.560 body shook around for about two seconds, so it was. 17 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:57.600 Like, whoa cool? You know? 18 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:00.880 So she heard me. I hope she did. Okay, here's 19 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:05.359 my problem. One of the girls died late eight days later, 20 00:01:05.480 --> 00:01:10.400 on February second, due to alcoholism, which I didn't really 21 00:01:10.439 --> 00:01:15.599 know she was. So I am so furious right now 22 00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:18.959 with her husband who's still alive. We've been driving him 23 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:22.680 all around and we paid for my sister's cremation, and 24 00:01:22.760 --> 00:01:25.920 my other sister is kicking in so he can bury 25 00:01:25.959 --> 00:01:29.000 his daughter. He has no money and I'm driving him 26 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:31.280 around and all I want to do is punch him 27 00:01:31.519 --> 00:01:39.000 out and having a horrible time with this feeling of hate. 28 00:01:39.280 --> 00:01:40.840 And have you brought it up to him at all? 29 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:45.159 Oh? He knows I am real, But I. 30 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:49.200 Mean with him face. I don't mean passive aggressive, being 31 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:51.760 a jerk or those types of things. I mean, have 32 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:55.879 you looked him in the face and told him, Well. 33 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:57.840 When he was talking about suing the hospital, and he 34 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:00.359 kept talking about suing the hospital, I finally looked at 35 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:03.719 him and I said, look, we should see you, or 36 00:02:03.719 --> 00:02:06.680 it grows indifference to another human being. I said, you 37 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:09.080 knew she was sick, you watched her wither away, and 38 00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:10.800 I just don't know how I'm going to ever handle 39 00:02:10.840 --> 00:02:13.400 this lolly. You know, So I did tell him that, 40 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:15.439 is that what you mean? 41 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:20.000 Well, yes, I think that it's healthy to confront an individual, 42 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:23.800 but there's a lot of things going here. You know. 43 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:24.520 You have. 44 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:29.439 One sister died who was an alcoholic. 45 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:33.280 The other sister's alcoholic TiO. 46 00:02:33.439 --> 00:02:36.960 I know, but one sister that you knew about right, right? Okay? 47 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:39.639 So she dies? Yes, So how come you didn't do 48 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:41.360 anything you knew about it? 49 00:02:41.639 --> 00:02:43.759 I didn't know that she was alcoholic like that. As 50 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:45.879 a matter of fact, of months ago when we found out, 51 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:49.159 my daughter and I when after we visited my hospital, 52 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:52.240 we didn't see each other too much because the relationship 53 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:56.120 constantly strained, so I didn't have that grade of access 54 00:02:56.159 --> 00:02:58.719 to them physically. So my daughter and I went over 55 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:01.319 there and we saw she was in horrible shape. The 56 00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:03.439 next day that we went over and got her well, 57 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:05.400 we begged her to come. She wouldn't come, wouldn't come. 58 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:07.800 The next day when we went to get the family 59 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:09.960 for the doctor meeting to what shall we do life 60 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:14.319 support Sarah? We met with the health of the police 61 00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:16.560 and the social workers there managed to get her into 62 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:20.280 the er. They're saying to her, you're an adult, you 63 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:22.120 know you don't have to do this. Before we got 64 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:24.520 her in, so she lets the doctor physically examine her 65 00:03:24.520 --> 00:03:27.719 as far as checking she couldn't walk, checking her legs 66 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:29.599 and things like that, but when it came to the tests, 67 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:32.879 she refused all tests. I mean, I was on my 68 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:36.680 knees begging her. She signed her form saying that she 69 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:40.319 refused the test. Okay. So thereafter, for the next month, 70 00:03:40.400 --> 00:03:42.360 everybody else is trying to get her in. She fights 71 00:03:42.520 --> 00:03:48.280 the day she goes into the hospital. She fought, physically fought, 72 00:03:48.719 --> 00:03:50.240 punching the paramedics. 73 00:03:50.639 --> 00:03:51.080 Okay. 74 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:53.280 So she was refusing all help. 75 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:57.000 And what you don't think that the other sister was the. 76 00:03:56.960 --> 00:04:01.439 Same, Well, the other sister is you know, I know 77 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:04.400 she's drinking, you know, and she knows that everyone knows. 78 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:07.400 And she's staying with some friend of the dad now 79 00:04:07.439 --> 00:04:11.759 who's taken care of her. You know, we're doing our 80 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:13.960 best with her, trying to get buried in the meantime, 81 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:17.680 and that's been postponed because the medical examiner now has 82 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:19.720 her down at the corner's office and we had a 83 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:21.879 postpone or burial which was supposed to be yesterday. 84 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:25.079 Okay. So that there's a lot of details that are 85 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:27.800 you know, hard to consume and this span of time 86 00:04:27.839 --> 00:04:30.040 that we have, but I will tell you this that 87 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:33.279 the only way for you to assume that this man 88 00:04:33.399 --> 00:04:39.639 wanted his wife to die, that's the only other option. 89 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:42.879 Do you really think that that's what he wanted? No, okay, 90 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:46.439 of course not so so. Honestly, what you have here 91 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:49.920 is an incredibly frustrating situation all the way around, and 92 00:04:49.959 --> 00:04:54.720 that when someone loves someone else, oftentimes they let them 93 00:04:54.759 --> 00:04:57.560 do all kinds of horrible things themselves. Sometimes it's you know, 94 00:04:57.680 --> 00:05:00.360 eating disorders or things because they don't know know how 95 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:03.279 to process it and know what to do, and they 96 00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:08.360 are being lied to themselves by their partner, and they're 97 00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:11.639 lying to themselves as well, thinking well, it'll go away 98 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:14.839 or it'll be fine, and nobody assumes it's going to 99 00:05:14.839 --> 00:05:17.920 be as bad as it is until it is, sadly terry, 100 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:20.000 and that's kind of what it comes down to. And 101 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:24.600 I understand your anger. I'm glad that you called, but 102 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:27.519 there's also you know, you played a part in this 103 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:29.759 as well, and there's some things that you can do 104 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:31.920 and there's some things that you can't do. And they 105 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:35.079 are adults, and you're trying to do everything you can. 106 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:39.240 I would say to continue to talk with him to 107 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:43.480 work through this, but you can't blame him. Yes, is 108 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:46.800 there some of that burden that's on him, absolutely, But 109 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:50.040 really you've seen how people that want to do what 110 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:51.639 they want to do when they want to do it, 111 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:55.680 will push and kick and do whatever, lie cheat steel 112 00:05:55.959 --> 00:05:58.560 to allow themselves to do it. And that's hard for 113 00:05:58.759 --> 00:06:01.800 any one other person to be able to battle with. 114 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:05.000 And although you're looking at it from a different perspective, 115 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:09.000 now have some compassion that this person lost a loved 116 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:17.040 one as well. Steve, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. 117 00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:19.839 Thank you for taking my call, my pleasure. How can 118 00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:20.160 I help you? 119 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:23.720 My wife and I have a very dear friend and 120 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:29.240 the church she goes to they're obsessed with the end 121 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:34.720 of times and the rapture, oh boy. And she comes 122 00:06:34.759 --> 00:06:38.879 over and tells us what the sermon was, and she's worried. 123 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:42.959 She's constantly just wringing her hands and worried to the 124 00:06:42.959 --> 00:06:46.560 point of being physically sick about the end of times 125 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:50.720 and the rature. And I've always told her, if you 126 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:52.920 truly believe we're living in the end of times and 127 00:06:52.959 --> 00:06:57.040 the raptures at hand, you should be rejoicing and not 128 00:06:57.199 --> 00:07:01.040 worrying about it, and not worrying about whether you're saved. 129 00:07:01.079 --> 00:07:03.959 If you believe in your heart you're saved, that you're saved. 130 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:05.439 And I was just wondering if I giving her the 131 00:07:05.519 --> 00:07:06.600 right advice. 132 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:09.759 The people that worry about the rapture are the ones 133 00:07:09.800 --> 00:07:12.040 that aren't sure as to where they're going or who 134 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:12.439 they are. 135 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:12.879 Now. 136 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:16.079 There's obviously discussion in the church as to what the 137 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:18.879 rapture is and how it will take place, or if 138 00:07:18.879 --> 00:07:20.800 it will take place. There are differing views in the 139 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:25.920 Body of Christ. Having said that, it's the equivalent or 140 00:07:25.959 --> 00:07:30.439 should be the equivalent to a Christian of worrying about 141 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:33.199 getting your paycheck on Friday. Oh my paycheck's coming. Payday 142 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:35.199 is coming on Friday. Oh my gosh, I'm so worried. 143 00:07:35.279 --> 00:07:39.439 Why are you worried about getting a paycheck? If this 144 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:42.120 is the graduation of a Christian, is that if this 145 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:47.199 is finally being with God in a relationship like never before, 146 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:52.240 there shouldn't be a worry. And kind of the attitude 147 00:07:52.319 --> 00:07:54.480 is if you live every day like it's your last 148 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:58.879 day on earth, glorifying God, then yes, one day you'll 149 00:07:58.920 --> 00:08:02.879 be right. But I'm not sure. This whole obsession with 150 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:07.720 the end times and you know, people trying to figure 151 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:09.680 out when it is and all of this when Scripture 152 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:11.759 is very clear no man shall know the day nor 153 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:15.480 the hour, but merely the season. And all these things 154 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:18.560 I don't understand, and any church that focus on it 155 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:20.040 makes me a little nervous as well. 156 00:08:21.160 --> 00:08:23.279 I've told her that, I've told her you read her 157 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:26.519 the scripture. I got the Bible out and showed it 158 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:28.319 to her where it said no man will know, you know, 159 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:32.600 only the Lord knows. And she still is is adamant 160 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:38.879 that this preacher has some way of knowing that the 161 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:41.159 end is at hand and it could happen right now. 162 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:43.360 And it says in the Bible, you know, nobody knows 163 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:47.519 it could happen right now. But as a Christian and 164 00:08:47.559 --> 00:08:50.039 a believer, I believe that if you truly believe the 165 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:53.120 end is at hand, then you should be rejoicing and 166 00:08:53.480 --> 00:08:56.559 not wringing your hands and worried and worrying yourself sick 167 00:08:56.600 --> 00:08:57.039 about it. 168 00:08:57.840 --> 00:08:58.480 No, it doesn't. 169 00:08:58.519 --> 00:08:58.679 Now. 170 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:03.120 Do you want to be attentive so that you continue 171 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:06.080 to preach God's word and make sure that others are 172 00:09:06.120 --> 00:09:07.840 coming into the flock. Yeah, but you should be doing 173 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:12.960 that every single day. That the concept of changing your 174 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:17.679 tone because God is coming is really like having a 175 00:09:17.720 --> 00:09:20.200 filthy house all year round and then cleaning it up 176 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:24.039 before company shows up. It may work with a company, 177 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:26.799 but God sees all there is no difference. And if 178 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:32.039 you're living that life twenty four to seven now, then 179 00:09:32.159 --> 00:09:35.759 don't worry about it. But this is becoming a fad. 180 00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:37.759 And I'll tell you this, Steve. I bet you if 181 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:39.879 you go back and you do a little studying about 182 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:43.240 this preacher at the church that she goes to, I 183 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:45.600 bet you'll find out that he's made claims about the 184 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:48.720 end times before, maybe even giving a date before, and 185 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:52.440 it was wrong. How about this for statistics, And we 186 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:55.080 don't really throw around statistics on the program, but how 187 00:09:55.080 --> 00:10:00.960 about this. Every single person who has claimed that the 188 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:04.519 earth was coming to an end up until this point, 189 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:15.000 this moment right now, has been wrong, every single one 190 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:23.440 of them. Every preacher, every teacher, every minister that has said, well, 191 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:26.200 I know the date has been wrong, And there's some 192 00:10:27.039 --> 00:10:30.840 fascinates me. There are some that have done it before 193 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:36.120 and been wrong and said, oh well I know what 194 00:10:36.159 --> 00:10:38.399 it is now. I've gone back and I've checked my mauth. 195 00:10:40.519 --> 00:10:47.559 All this stuff garbage and ultimately doesn't even matter, because 196 00:10:47.559 --> 00:10:49.840 if you live your life every day as if I'm 197 00:10:49.879 --> 00:10:57.000 coming back, then you're fine. But scripture is very clear 198 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:00.799 that no one shall know the day, nor the hour, 199 00:11:02.759 --> 00:11:06.080 and if you're constantly focusing on the end, you won't 200 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:08.879 see the present, you won't see what's going on right now, 201 00:11:10.879 --> 00:11:15.440 and you miss it. The term eschatology, the theological term eschatology, 202 00:11:15.480 --> 00:11:18.440 means the study of last things. So my advice to 203 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:28.720 you study them last. Lee, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. 204 00:11:29.519 --> 00:11:30.480 Good morning Jesus. 205 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:31.720 Hi, how can I help you? Lee? 206 00:11:32.879 --> 00:11:36.480 Okay, So I've been a Christian since I was a 207 00:11:36.480 --> 00:11:40.159 little kid, and when I was about ten, that was 208 00:11:40.200 --> 00:11:42.639 when I had, you know, my eye opening moment because 209 00:11:42.879 --> 00:11:44.799 of a pastor I had, you know, he told the 210 00:11:44.840 --> 00:11:48.919 story and it really stuck with me. And you know, 211 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:52.279 back then, I was, you know, I was really hyper 212 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:54.919 about you know, being a Christian all that stuff, and 213 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:57.159 I was always asking questions and I was, you know, 214 00:11:57.279 --> 00:12:00.879 reading stuff. And back then I had two deacons that 215 00:12:00.919 --> 00:12:02.679 were looking at me and they're like, oh, yeah, you're 216 00:12:02.679 --> 00:12:05.879 probably gonna be a pastor when you grow up. And 217 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:08.600 then a lot of stuff happened and I stopped going 218 00:12:08.600 --> 00:12:12.000 to church and stuff like that. When I started going 219 00:12:12.039 --> 00:12:16.039 back to church again when I was about twenty, I'm 220 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:19.480 twenty four now and I've still been going to church. 221 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:25.320 But right now, I'm working for a security Well, I'm 222 00:12:25.320 --> 00:12:25.720 just working. 223 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:27.399 I'll just say that, Okay, you got a job. 224 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:30.759 Yeah, and it takes up a lot of my time. 225 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:40.320 And well, recently I met a person, Hello. 226 00:12:40.799 --> 00:12:43.480 Oh, did we lose Lee in the middle of his story? 227 00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:47.240 Of all things, We're going to try and get Lee 228 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:51.480 back because I wanted to hear where he was going. 229 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:54.279 And when it comes to callings or being led down 230 00:12:54.440 --> 00:12:57.679 a particular path on God speaking to you and you 231 00:12:57.759 --> 00:12:59.799 really feel like, Wow, this is what I'm designed to do, 232 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:04.759 and you know, this is who I believe I am 233 00:13:04.919 --> 00:13:09.919 in Christ. When you're on that path and something takes 234 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:12.279 you off that path, and it does happen at times, 235 00:13:12.919 --> 00:13:16.519 it can be life changing for the good or can 236 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:18.240 be life changing for the bad. So I want to 237 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:20.759 hear the rest of Lee's story if possible, If he 238 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:22.759 can give us a call back, we'll get back to 239 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:27.559 him and look into that. Because every I think it's 240 00:13:27.559 --> 00:13:30.879 every single program that somebody calls, or we'll get an 241 00:13:30.879 --> 00:13:33.840 email or something someone asking what they're calling is or 242 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:36.639 what God will have them do. And obviously it's going 243 00:13:36.679 --> 00:13:38.320 to be different for each and every one of you. 244 00:13:38.440 --> 00:13:45.639 But following that path and embracing what your purpose is 245 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:47.440 is a huge part of why we do this show 246 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:51.039 and obviously of great importance. So stick around and we'll 247 00:13:51.039 --> 00:13:59.559 be right back. And Lee is back. Yay Lee. Okay, 248 00:13:59.639 --> 00:14:04.279 So Lee, you at the age of ten, had, uh, 249 00:14:04.840 --> 00:14:07.080 you know, felt felt felt a calling to become a 250 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:09.799 Christian and then later on felt that you were going 251 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:14.240 to be called maybe to the uh the pastoral studies 252 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:18.080 and uh. And then you've had some back and forth 253 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:20.840 with uh, with life as it tends to get in 254 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:25.559 the way. Correct. Yes, okay, so you have a job now, 255 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:29.120 but you're questioning whether you are called into ministry or not. 256 00:14:30.679 --> 00:14:34.759 Well, that's not really my question. I was still telling 257 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:37.639 more of the story. I hadn't really felt the calling 258 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:39.759 to be a pastor, so say, I just you know, 259 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:44.000 people had told me that when I was younger. But 260 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:46.039 as I was saying, I had just met someone a 261 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:48.240 very devout Christian, the kind of Christian that makes me 262 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:54.720 want to be even better Christian, and uh, well we 263 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:57.279 were talking to each other for a while and uh, 264 00:14:57.759 --> 00:14:59.360 well then she just said she's like, you know, I 265 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:01.759 feel that you're calling is really to be a pastor, 266 00:15:03.840 --> 00:15:06.080 and you know that kind of struck a note when 267 00:15:06.080 --> 00:15:09.120 she said that to me. But at the same time, 268 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:12.000 at the job I am right now, I work all 269 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:13.879 the time, Like I had to cover a shift today, 270 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:20.240 so I'm actually at work today. So it's just I'm 271 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:23.799 kind of confused because I when I got calling earlier 272 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:27.200 in life, I didn't I misunderstood it as far as 273 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:30.919 I understand. So I'm just I don't know. I'm a 274 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:31.960 little confused right now. 275 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:34.960 But you have you haven't felt this yourself. You just 276 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:37.120 feel like others are coming up to you telling you 277 00:15:37.159 --> 00:15:39.879 that you're called to the past. 278 00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:43.000 I was told those two times when I was younger, 279 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:46.519 and uh, and then now again with this uh, this 280 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:48.559 friend of mine, and like I said, it kind of 281 00:15:49.320 --> 00:15:52.039 struck a note. And I'm just a little unsure about it. 282 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:54.679 As all, Well, you should be attentive to others always, 283 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:56.559 but God has your number two. It's not like he's 284 00:15:56.559 --> 00:15:58.159 got to call the person next to you and have them, 285 00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:01.639 you know, tell you something. It's a matter of And 286 00:16:01.639 --> 00:16:03.960 I've always found that fascinating that people will say, oh, 287 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:06.639 well God told me this about you. Well, you know, 288 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:10.519 he knows where I am too, right, But they they 289 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:14.480 but sometimes God uses others to reinforce a message that 290 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:17.120 he's been trying to tell you that you're ignoring, and 291 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:20.600 so you have to be attentive to that. It's kind 292 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:23.759 of an it's kind of the generic go to when 293 00:16:23.759 --> 00:16:26.799 people see gifts and abilities in a Christian it's like, oh, 294 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:29.399 they're going to be a pastor Well maybe not so. 295 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:33.519 I think that at this point you should most certainly 296 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:38.600 be asking questions and investigating and doing your homework. I 297 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:42.919 know you're busy, but you know that that could change 298 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:49.039 and if if you're not. Maybe it's not as specific 299 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:51.159 as that, it's like, well, you know you're going to 300 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:52.799 be a part of a church or something like that. 301 00:16:52.799 --> 00:16:55.399 There may be other things. Maybe you start out by 302 00:16:56.720 --> 00:16:59.000 just doing the studies and then start out by doing 303 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:02.279 a teaching, you know, Bible study under the umbrella of 304 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:08.480 a church or something like that. However, if you're set 305 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:10.640 in what you're doing and you don't feel moved to 306 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:14.880 do otherwise, then don't calling should be that you should 307 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:18.599 feel it because it's a lot of work, and there 308 00:17:18.599 --> 00:17:20.480 will be times where you you're not going to be 309 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:22.279 in the mood for it, and all of those things, 310 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:24.839 and you've you've you've got to truly be called to 311 00:17:24.920 --> 00:17:29.200 it and feel it in your own person to make 312 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:32.039 it happen, not just others around you. But it sounds 313 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:34.640 like you know this. You know having this other person 314 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:37.279 in your life is part of that path as well, 315 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:40.160 and you know part of this continuing in your growth. 316 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:45.920 But move on what you're moved on. Don't just move 317 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:49.319 because someone says. To be attentive to it, but also 318 00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:56.519 be attentive to your own heart. Doug, Welcome to the 319 00:17:56.599 --> 00:17:57.400 Jesus Christ Show. 320 00:17:58.319 --> 00:17:59.200 Good morning, Jesus. 321 00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:00.359 Hi, what's point on? 322 00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:04.200 I have a thought about accountability and this is something 323 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:07.000 that I've had personal experience with over the years of 324 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:11.720 having accountability with a couple of guys. There's a process 325 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:15.000 that I think is simple enough for everyone to use. 326 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:18.200 It doesn't have to be complicated. And the way that 327 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:21.720 it goes is that you find one or two brothers 328 00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:26.519 that you're very close to Christian brothers, and then you 329 00:18:26.599 --> 00:18:29.160 meet on a regular basis, maybe once a week, and 330 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:33.319 then each person tells the other person what they would 331 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:37.200 like to be held accountable to. The idea is, you know, 332 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:40.319 search my heart, oh Lord, and then you find those 333 00:18:40.359 --> 00:18:42.400 things that you want to be held accountable to. If 334 00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:44.000 you put them out there and you say, I give 335 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:47.599 you permission each week to ask me these five questions. 336 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:52.359 They could be things like, you know, have you been 337 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:55.000 looking at pornography you know, if that's the issue, Or 338 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:57.559 have you been drinking this week if that's the issue. 339 00:18:57.680 --> 00:19:01.119 And so again it's permission based, and then the one 340 00:19:01.119 --> 00:19:03.240 that's being asked the question would say yes or no. 341 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:06.759 If they say yes, and you know, hooray for you. 342 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:09.160 And if no, then they don't beat them up. But 343 00:19:09.400 --> 00:19:11.440 what they do is they encourage them, They pray with 344 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:14.519 them to help them through that, and then this process 345 00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:19.599 continues each week until habits are formed, things are changed 346 00:19:19.640 --> 00:19:21.279 in their life, and they have that growth that you 347 00:19:21.359 --> 00:19:24.400 talk about. I think of it in terms of the 348 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:28.759 difference between the Three Musketeers and the Three Stooges. Three 349 00:19:28.839 --> 00:19:31.240 Musketeers are they all for one and one for all, 350 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:34.440 whereas the three Stooges would be you know, they're beating 351 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:36.200 each other up. So you want to take the three 352 00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:39.960 Musketeers approach, where you're supporting and loving each other through 353 00:19:39.960 --> 00:19:41.839 each of these areas of accountability. 354 00:19:43.079 --> 00:19:47.240 Most certainly, and that is absolutely biblical. The Bible is 355 00:19:47.319 --> 00:19:49.480 very clear that you are to go to one another, 356 00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:52.640 to be accountable to one another, and even judge at times. However, 357 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:56.359 to do it in love and guidance and kindness, rather 358 00:19:56.440 --> 00:19:59.519 than you know you're missing this and beating them up 359 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:04.680 s lutely and Proverbs twenty seven seventeen reiterates that that 360 00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:08.079 iron sharpens iron like a man to another man. And 361 00:20:08.880 --> 00:20:12.359 when you're accountable, when it's out there, they say this 362 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:14.680 with everything. If you're losing weight, you've got to tell 363 00:20:14.720 --> 00:20:19.279 people you're losing weight, because now you're accountable for those actions. 364 00:20:19.720 --> 00:20:23.640 If you're having a drink, make sure that it's known. 365 00:20:24.559 --> 00:20:28.440 My producer Neil, in his household, he makes it known 366 00:20:28.480 --> 00:20:30.200 if he's going to have a drink, so that he's 367 00:20:30.200 --> 00:20:33.680 accountable for drinks. Doesn't have a drinking problem, but doesn't 368 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:38.200 want one either, So by way of always making announcements 369 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:41.880 when that's taking place, that it's very visible and therefore 370 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:44.759 no one's drinking in secret ever or doing anything. And 371 00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:48.920 try and being accountable even prior to a problem is 372 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:52.079 a good way. And when you're sitting around with one 373 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:56.440 another and you're saying, you know, these are issues that 374 00:20:56.519 --> 00:21:01.519 I'm either fearful of, whether it be pornography or drinking 375 00:21:01.599 --> 00:21:06.480 or anything where somebody might it could be a major 376 00:21:06.519 --> 00:21:09.079 problem that you can do it if you've done it 377 00:21:09.119 --> 00:21:11.240 before and you want to stay clear of it, or 378 00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:13.359 if you just want to stay clear of it. Being 379 00:21:13.400 --> 00:21:18.160 accountable to one another is not doing things in secret. 380 00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:21.359 And my producer Neil has said a long time ago 381 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:22.880 he likes to write, and one of the things that 382 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:26.359 he wrote down was darkest is the evil that is 383 00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:28.279 hid from the eyes and the ears of a loved one. 384 00:21:28.920 --> 00:21:31.279 Because when you have people that you love and trust 385 00:21:31.279 --> 00:21:36.000 in life and you are hiding things from them, that 386 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:41.599 that becomes dark and evil in the process, because really 387 00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:44.240 you're just trying to get away with things, and your 388 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:47.519 family and those that you love around you should be 389 00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:51.400 the ones that tell you, hey, that's not good. And 390 00:21:51.400 --> 00:21:54.039 how sad is it when people you know dump friends 391 00:21:54.680 --> 00:22:01.359 because they're you know, the honest ones. And sadly you see, 392 00:22:02.759 --> 00:22:06.720 you know, famous, powerful people spiral out of control quite 393 00:22:06.759 --> 00:22:10.559 often because they end up surrounding themselves with people that 394 00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:13.640 will only say what they want to hear. Yes, man, 395 00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:17.359 only saying oh, well this is that, and they're afraid because 396 00:22:17.400 --> 00:22:19.680 their jobs are tied into it, or they like being 397 00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:22.359 associated with fame or whatever, and they'll only do that. 398 00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:24.559 If you really want to grow in life, you've got 399 00:22:24.599 --> 00:22:27.960 to surround yourself with people that in love will be 400 00:22:28.039 --> 00:22:31.200 honest with you and tell you like it is. And 401 00:22:31.240 --> 00:22:33.480