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<v Speaker 1>The weird things happened in.

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<v Speaker 2>Weird, Weird, Weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bledsoe said, so episode one, we have a

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful guest. This is my friend. We go way back,

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<v Speaker 1>and some have even considered us brothers from other mothers.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense? In the plural, we have the wonderful,

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<v Speaker 1>the powerful, the wise Hakim Isler. But before we open

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<v Speaker 1>up this fantastic conversation, I got to talk about an

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<v Speaker 1>event that we have going on. It's from May second

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<v Speaker 1>to May fourth in Delavan, Wisconsin. My dad and I

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<v Speaker 1>and my wife and my sister will be at the

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<v Speaker 1>Contact Modalities Conference. It is the it's probably like the

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<v Speaker 1>most poppin' consciousness expo in the Midwest. It's it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be an amazing venue with these three different conference rooms running,

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<v Speaker 1>with all of these amazing guests that are doing things

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<v Speaker 1>such as chigong gong baths, different avenues of making contact

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<v Speaker 1>with other things from beyond Shuman's you name it, psychic mediums, yoga,

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<v Speaker 1>anything you can think of in the consciousness field, you

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<v Speaker 1>bet it's gonna be there. There's gonna be templar knights,

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of crazy, amazing mystical stuff. On Friday night

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<v Speaker 1>there is going to be a SkyWatch hosted by my dad,

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<v Speaker 1>and Saturday there's gonna be a cocktail party with a

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<v Speaker 1>DJ and all kinds of just amazing presentations going on

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the weekend. And on Sunday there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a live panel with my dad being interviewed on stage

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<v Speaker 1>by Jimmy Church for everybody to watch live. So check

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<v Speaker 1>it out. I hope to see you guys there. Just

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<v Speaker 1>grab your tickets at Contact Modalities xpo dot com. So

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<v Speaker 1>with that being said, Hakeen, I love you, brother. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited that we finally worked this out. How are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, man, I'm doing good. That in one note on

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<v Speaker 2>what you just said. You don't know this yet because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a ninja and that's the way things work. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be there too, I'll be really yeah. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>was just that literally was just solidifying like two days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>So amazing, more reason for everybody to go. That's so awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm stoked, yeah, or I'm stoked. That's awesome. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>is stope, but that's I'm stoked. So, I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>we've got a lot that we can talk about tonight, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you are a man that wears many hats, some of

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<v Speaker 1>them are invisible. One might say, if we're referring to

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<v Speaker 1>the art ni jitsu, which, as I understand, you are

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<v Speaker 1>someone who has been practicing this art for what twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five years?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, twenty five years?

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and ask me any question you got, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll answer it and then you know, if it's not

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<v Speaker 2>too crazy, you'll you'll probably live through it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, now, how do you find yourself getting into ninjitsu?

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny because Ryan and I are both like completely

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<v Speaker 3>independently also fascinated with ni jitsu just because ninjas are sick. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but like, how do you find yourself getting into niu jitsu?

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<v Speaker 1>I have to know?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So, like many things in my life, this was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of one of those things that were that seemed

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<v Speaker 2>like it was meant to be. And what I mean

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<v Speaker 2>by that is that in my twenties I had a

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<v Speaker 2>friend or actually was my just I was dressed on

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<v Speaker 2>a cuff about the turn twenty a friend of mine

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<v Speaker 2>and murdered somebody, really close friend, and it shook me

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<v Speaker 2>to the core because we were so close that it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of made me feel like, if he could do that,

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<v Speaker 2>then am I going to be in this bad situation

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<v Speaker 2>where I have to make a choice like that one day?

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<v Speaker 2>And so I was like, I got to get out

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<v Speaker 2>of here, I got to do something. I got to

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<v Speaker 2>grow my life in a different way. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>I knew I was good at martial arts. I had

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<v Speaker 2>been doing martial arts since I was eight years old,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was several years by that point. It was

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<v Speaker 2>probably like eleven years by then. And I had done music.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd make music dj. I would DJ at these night clubs,

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<v Speaker 2>and I also was a lyricist. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I could do music anywhere, but what martial arts do

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<v Speaker 2>I want to actually commit to? And I was really

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<v Speaker 2>into this idea of Bruce Lee where everything, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>practice everything takes a little bit away from all these

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<v Speaker 2>different things. And so I was really going down that path.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have the friend I bumped into and I

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<v Speaker 2>was telling him about what was going on with me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I told him about this dream and then this

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<v Speaker 2>dream I kept fighting a shadowy figure because he was

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<v Speaker 2>like a dream guy, you know. And he was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's like the ninja, you know, And I was

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<v Speaker 2>like Ninja and he was like yeah. He was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, like the cartoons. He was like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's like a real thing, you know, this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And he tells me about this stuff. And I go

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<v Speaker 2>to the library the next day because you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have internet to really look at a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff up. And I found my teacher. He only had

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<v Speaker 2>one book there. I found this book, The Ninja in

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<v Speaker 2>Their Secret Fighting Art. And I read that book and

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<v Speaker 2>it was everything that I was looking for. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>these these these esoteric, very you know, very enlightened and

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<v Speaker 2>very amazing warriors that were living in the wilderness of Japan,

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<v Speaker 2>who had all of these different skills and who could

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<v Speaker 2>do all these magnificent things. And I was like, WHOA,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even notice was a thing. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm going to go out there and check

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<v Speaker 2>this out. So I told my mom I was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go to Ohio and visit this martial art school. I wrote.

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote him first. It took him about two months

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<v Speaker 2>he wrote me back. I mean, Snell melt Oh, you

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<v Speaker 2>had to send a.

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<v Speaker 1>Letter back there.

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<v Speaker 2>And he wrote me back and he was telling me

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<v Speaker 2>about his journey and that he thought my journey was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of aligned, and so I went out there for

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks, I met him. I was like, this is

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<v Speaker 2>where I need to be. And I came back told

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<v Speaker 2>my mom I was gonna move there, and she was like, you,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're only like twenty and you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>any friends or family or anybody out there over twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one at the time, and so I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm gonna do it. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>just saved up twelve hundred dollars and it took and there.

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<v Speaker 2>It took me a year for to save about twelve

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars and then and I held on to that

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<v Speaker 2>that dream that whole time, and I moved to this

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<v Speaker 2>this ghetto, roach infested apartment uh and in the ghetto

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<v Speaker 2>of Dayton, and I lived there and I trained with

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<v Speaker 2>my teacher in the suburbs. And every little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>money that I had that didn't go to my three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars a month rent, well it was only because

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<v Speaker 2>you had to. You had to share the rent with

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<v Speaker 2>all little roaches. So so that's how we were able

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<v Speaker 2>to keep it lovely. So yeah, I ended up moving there,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's how it happened. So when I came Here's

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting story. When I came home and I told

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<v Speaker 2>my mom that I was going to move to Ohio,

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<v Speaker 2>that I was going to be a ninja, she just

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<v Speaker 2>like and shot looked at me and she said, you knew,

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, I knew what she was like when

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<v Speaker 2>you were nine you were playing and me and me

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<v Speaker 2>and your aunt were talking and we looked at you

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<v Speaker 2>and we said, m what do you want to be

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<v Speaker 2>when you grew up? And I said, I stood up,

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<v Speaker 2>stuck my chest out, she said, and I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be a ninja? What And she was like,

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<v Speaker 2>she was like, at the time, we didn't think there

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<v Speaker 2>was such a thing other than cartoons, and so we

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<v Speaker 2>were like, oh, that's really cute. We don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>shoot down his dreams and tell him that this isn't

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<v Speaker 2>a real thing like Santa Claus, you know, And so

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<v Speaker 2>they were like they were like, yeah, okay, And she

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<v Speaker 2>held on to that. And then when I came back

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<v Speaker 2>and told her at twenty one that I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to go and move and be with this ninja guy,

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<v Speaker 2>she was just like, what the hell Like same and

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<v Speaker 2>now here we are, twenty five years later, I'm still

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<v Speaker 2>training with them, and even and recently I got my

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<v Speaker 2>six degree blackmailed about two years ago, and I'm one

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<v Speaker 2>of five people who are still active that are training

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<v Speaker 2>under him on his wallfall at his dojo. So when

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<v Speaker 2>I got promoted at his home and his home dojo

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<v Speaker 2>and with about twenty other or about sixteen other and

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<v Speaker 2>he I was allowed to we call it the wall

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<v Speaker 2>of intention. I was allowed to take my photo and

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<v Speaker 2>my stick and move it to six degree. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>like a nine year old who says I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be a ninja to a twenty one year old who's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do this crazy thing like save up twelve hundred

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<v Speaker 2>dollars and move somewhere up to train in a ninja system,

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<v Speaker 2>leaving everything behind to a forty something year old forty

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<v Speaker 2>at the time. I'm six, i believe, or no forty

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<v Speaker 2>five at the time. Going being in his house, pulling

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<v Speaker 2>my tab off the wall and moving it to six degree,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like insane. It was insane realization. It was

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<v Speaker 2>super surreal, a serious dedication.

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<v Speaker 3>It has to be mind blowing and the bravery to

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<v Speaker 3>go there at like such a young age and just

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<v Speaker 3>be like twenty one years old, I'm moving to Ohio

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<v Speaker 3>to be a ninja. Like the bravery of that is

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<v Speaker 3>like intense and like this the dedic like that's really

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<v Speaker 3>commendable and awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what ninjas do. Like when you watch ninja movies

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<v Speaker 1>ninja cartoons, does you anime? Like, that's what they do.

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<v Speaker 1>They go on the pilgrimage across the world, across the country, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and they train under some master that probably a lot

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people don't know about what is like

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<v Speaker 1>some legendary lineage which you know, I know that you're

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<v Speaker 1>involved with that, not only woul Ninjasu. But please correct

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<v Speaker 1>me if I get this wrong. But is it pinchok

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<v Speaker 1>salt well sea lot?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And is the science of sea lot? So okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's you know, you call it pinchocks a lot

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<v Speaker 2>or you just call it sea lot. But yes, you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>What is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So seat means the lightning and it's actually a

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<v Speaker 2>Malaysian Indonesian you know, martial arts system. And so the

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<v Speaker 2>Malay culture actually at one point they called it the

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<v Speaker 2>Malay Archipelago. And it was like all these islands that

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<v Speaker 2>made up in all these different land masses that were

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<v Speaker 2>one land mask and they made up you know, this

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<v Speaker 2>Malay Archipela Gum and so, and Indonesia was one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Borneo is one of the Philippines. All of these were together.

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<v Speaker 2>And Sea Lot is a martial arts system of that land,

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<v Speaker 2>which is which was very You have different versions of

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<v Speaker 2>it based on where what region you're coming from, almost

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<v Speaker 2>like kung fu, you know, and so you know, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was for you know, the Malay people. And now

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, because the land, the water rows and

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<v Speaker 2>the lands have separated. You know, you have Indonesian Sea

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<v Speaker 2>Lot and you know Borneo Sea Lot and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and Malaysia Sea Lot. So yeah, that's very cool.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. So it seems to me pretty clear. But

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<v Speaker 1>obviously I I want to hear it from you yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, would you say that your journey into ninjitsu

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<v Speaker 1>very consciousness focused spiritual approach that you take to things,

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<v Speaker 1>because we're going to get a more of this later.

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<v Speaker 1>You're obviously very embedded in remote viewing culture mindsight. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>with Monroe, we haven't talked about this yet, but you

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<v Speaker 1>and I were at Monroe together. If people go back

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<v Speaker 1>and listen to my original episodes recounting my Gateway experience,

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<v Speaker 1>I referenced Hakim several times we.

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<v Speaker 2>Were there together.

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<v Speaker 1>You're very You're like, you really are a ninja man.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're you're planted in so many of these different

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<v Speaker 2>I think ninjitsu was the clarity that came for a foundation.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had already always been very outside of the

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<v Speaker 2>and I would just know things, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, okay, that's cool, and then something would happen,

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<v Speaker 2>it would confirm it, like for instance, when I was

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<v Speaker 2>I had a dream that where I dreamt the lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the lottery ticket the numbers, and my mom played it.

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<v Speaker 2>next day I told her I said, hey, I dreamt

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<v Speaker 2>these numbers. She said, oh okay, she played them locally

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<v Speaker 2>and not nationally. They came out nationally, which was a

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<v Speaker 2>bigger pot, but they didn't come out locally, so we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't win anything. But it was you know, I wish

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<v Speaker 2>I had gotten that detail in a dream, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the numbers. Make sure you play it nationally. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think it was just when I look

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<v Speaker 2>back at it now, you know, all these years later,

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<v Speaker 2>universe giving me confirmation that hey, you got a gift. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and it will can continue to show itself until you're

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<v Speaker 2>ready to really dive into it and really practice it,

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<v Speaker 2>which is part of the reason when we get to

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<v Speaker 2>the sy Games talking about that, that's it, like kids

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, it just kind of gets lost. And

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<v Speaker 2>then at some point they become adults like us, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we remember and we say, oh shit, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 2>let me go back to I want to explore this more.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you go back and start exploring it and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, man, it feels so familiar to me, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's because and then you have awakening. You know, you've

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<v Speaker 2>talked to so many people I'm sure who've had that

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<v Speaker 2>same experience where they were young and they had these

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<v Speaker 2>experiences and kind of let them go because it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>really supported by our culture, and then they come back

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<v Speaker 2>to it as adults when they're free to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, you hit the nail on the head. There

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<v Speaker 1>have been thousands of people this point who have come

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<v Speaker 1>to us, whether it's going on a body, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>remote viewing, whatever, some spontaneous psychic thing happens. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>like oftentimes when people are brave enough to talk about this,

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<v Speaker 1>they're met with ridicule, with shame, with ostracizing, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's awesome what you're doing. So I definitely want

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<v Speaker 1>to pave the road for these side games conversations. So like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious to know more about your background in this

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<v Speaker 1>field and then we can really hammer out with the

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<v Speaker 1>side games. So you become a ninja when you're early twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, I'm curious when your official interest in

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<v Speaker 1>psychic abilities began officially.

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<v Speaker 2>So that can came much later, you know, in nijitsu.

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<v Speaker 2>I did a lot of meditation with my teacher, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the ninja have these nine abilities and remote

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<v Speaker 2>viewing and mindsight or intuition. They're they're part of the nine, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And so I knew about them. I've researched, but I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you're telling man, I was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more physical. I was more about, like, you know, this

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<v Speaker 2>is cool that we can do this kind of wizard stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but I really just need to kick something in the balls,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. Like so so that was like really, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that was that was more of my forte. Even though

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<v Speaker 2>I was still like a very you know, calm and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a good natured person, I still like, I

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<v Speaker 2>like that rough, tough stuff, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, wizard, I want to beat the out of something.

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<v Speaker 1>That's definitely something a younger person with less life experience

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<v Speaker 1>would Yeah, sure, that's what I would have been the

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<v Speaker 1>same way, you know. Like and actually, funnily enough, Hakeeen

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<v Speaker 1>knows my my my seafood no longer train anymore, but

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<v Speaker 1>he actually he knew him and we talked about that

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<v Speaker 1>one time. But like, I had trained kung fu for

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<v Speaker 1>a while and that was totally me like I want

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<v Speaker 1>to learn to fight. I didn't even believe in all

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<v Speaker 1>the chi and all that kind of stuff. I knew

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<v Speaker 1>there was beings going on and all that, but I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like as tapped in as you were at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>So hearing your martial arts journey is so cool knowing

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<v Speaker 1>you know where you are today and all this just

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<v Speaker 1>I say this lovingly, all this crazy stuff you're involved in,

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<v Speaker 1>right yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, because our and this is my theory. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if this is real, but it sounds it

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<v Speaker 2>feels really real to me, and when I see it,

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<v Speaker 2>because I still have these schools. We are multi dimensional beings,

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<v Speaker 2>but we live those multi dimensions through different phases of

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<v Speaker 2>our lives because the way our society is set up

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<v Speaker 2>now is set up really segregated, and the way we

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<v Speaker 2>see ourselves as multidimensional beings. Right, And so what ends

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<v Speaker 2>up happening is that when you're young, it's all about

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<v Speaker 2>the physical because that feels like and people support that.

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<v Speaker 2>Play football, play basketball, go hit something, go outside, do this,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the rough and tumble, and so get into

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<v Speaker 2>that space. And then when we start to get in

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<v Speaker 2>our middle mid mid age, like maybe thirty thirty five,

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<v Speaker 2>we started settling down a little bit, and you started

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<v Speaker 2>saying to yourself, Oh, like, what is it like for

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<v Speaker 2>me to not just be in a gross plane but

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<v Speaker 2>be in this kind of subtle plane where I'm feeling

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<v Speaker 2>love and I'm feeling gratitude and I'm starting a family

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm doing all of these things. And then you

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<v Speaker 2>get past that and you start getting really spiritual, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you start saying, well, what is it like

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<v Speaker 2>when I pass on? What's that going to be like?

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<v Speaker 2>And how do I give back to the generations behind me?

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<v Speaker 2>Where if you look at and what from what I

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<v Speaker 2>understand my personal research into ancient cultures, all that was

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<v Speaker 2>one you were spiritual. You were physical, but also spiritual

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<v Speaker 2>because you had the elders teaching you. As a matter

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<v Speaker 2>of fact, the youth who came who are coming into

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<v Speaker 2>the world was raised primarily by the elders who were

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<v Speaker 2>leaving the world. And in between you had the parents

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<v Speaker 2>who had to keep everything going. So you had the moms,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, doing you know, making clothing and doing things,

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<v Speaker 2>and you had the dad's going out hunting, and and

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<v Speaker 2>then you had the young so the young ones were

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<v Speaker 2>learning all of the spiritual and all of the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all that stuff from them, and then they were hanging

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<v Speaker 2>out with their parents and also learning the physical, so

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<v Speaker 2>there wasn't this separation. But we have the luxury in

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<v Speaker 2>our times now to have that sex separation because we

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<v Speaker 2>could be you know, we could just afford to go

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<v Speaker 2>to school and hang out with other kids our age, right.

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<v Speaker 2>But in the old day, we were all hanging out

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<v Speaker 2>with the elders. The elders were telling us the secrets.

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<v Speaker 2>They were passing that on. It was and it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be unbelievable because we had just come out of the

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<v Speaker 2>spirit realm into our bodies. So now listening to this

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<v Speaker 2>person say oh yeah, now that you're here in this

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<v Speaker 2>physical body, Listen to this plant, tell you what it

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<v Speaker 2>you know, whether or not you can eat it. Listen

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<v Speaker 2>to the animals and how they sound. Listen to the

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<v Speaker 2>wind tell you that the rain is coming, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 2>and kids would just be eating it up and then

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<v Speaker 2>they would become adults and they would support that and

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<v Speaker 2>their children because that was the way the culture, that

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<v Speaker 2>was the way the tribe survived. But then here we

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<v Speaker 2>are in this very materialistic environment and it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we add lip service to what spirituality it is supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be, which is kind of dulled out, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>onto an entity or being that has nothing to do

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<v Speaker 2>with you or totally separate from you, but gives you

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<v Speaker 2>things you know, but not a part of you. And

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<v Speaker 2>some people might say it is a part of you,

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<v Speaker 2>but they don't believe it, you know, they don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>it really deep down inside. And so I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>feel like there are these three phases that we have

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<v Speaker 2>now in our multidimensionality that have broken up and separate

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<v Speaker 2>or really where trinity we should all be. All those

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<v Speaker 2>things should be with us the whole time through and

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<v Speaker 2>should be supported by my communities, you know, whether it

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<v Speaker 2>be our family community or greater community, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>that should be supported. And I think that's what's really good.

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<v Speaker 2>The same anyway, I went off wag tangent.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, that's really cool, that's really cool.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like like we kind of as as people lost

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<v Speaker 4>the necessity to rely on that kind of stuff because

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, oh, I don't need to listen to the

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<v Speaker 4>wind for when the rain is coming, because I have

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<v Speaker 4>an app on my phone that tells.

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<v Speaker 3>You when the rain is coming, or you know, any

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<v Speaker 3>number of things, like communicating with nature. It's like we

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<v Speaker 3>have things that do that for us now, and so

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<v Speaker 3>we are losing that spiritual connection and the tradition of

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<v Speaker 3>like teaching and passing along that spiritual connection. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>like the practices that you're involved in are are kind

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<v Speaker 3>of trying to preserve that sort of stuff. Like that's

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<v Speaker 3>really sick. I think that's I think that's super cool.

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<v Speaker 3>And like the marriage of the physical and the spiritual,

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<v Speaker 3>like to remind us why the physical and spiritual are

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<v Speaker 3>are hand in hand. I think that's really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's amazing, and I think that like you're

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<v Speaker 1>very wise man, and you don't need to hear that

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<v Speaker 1>from me, but it's just what I feel for me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like just all of what you're saying, it

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<v Speaker 1>just totally hits home. And this is gonna sound silly,

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<v Speaker 1>but I promise I'm being for real. Like, do you

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<v Speaker 1>remember the original live action Ninja Turtles movie. I know

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<v Speaker 1>were when that came out. I was a young kid,

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<v Speaker 1>But in the original live action Ninja Turtles movie, at

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<v Speaker 1>right at the end of the movie, they get together

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<v Speaker 1>body and they all communicate and spirit with their master.

419
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<v Speaker 1>And a part of me is like, dang, dude, is

420
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<v Speaker 1>this really like a real part of ninja culture? That's

421
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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Like, there's something too that

422
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<v Speaker 1>the people making this movie, even though it's a silly franchise,

423
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<v Speaker 1>like it's about the way of the Ninja, you know,

424
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<v Speaker 1>it's got it's real. Yeah, you know, yeah, I think.

425
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<v Speaker 3>And there's other cartoon ninja stuff that's like shows them

426
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<v Speaker 3>doing like you know, like power blasts.

427
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<v Speaker 1>And all that.

428
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<v Speaker 3>But I think I think that's kind of like a

429
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<v Speaker 3>poetic depiction of the real thing, which is more subtle.

430
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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what I was gonna say. It's more subtle,

431
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<v Speaker 1>but it is still very very powerful and real.

432
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, if they're coming out of their bodies

433
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<v Speaker 3>and communicating with each other in the astral realm, like,

434
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<v Speaker 3>is that not magic enough for you? That's that's incredible.

435
00:23:43.559 --> 00:23:46.839
<v Speaker 3>That's like real deep magical stuff. That's some cool ninja shit.

436
00:23:47.079 --> 00:23:51.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome. And I know for a fact

437
00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:52.680
<v Speaker 1>that Hakeen is involved in a lot of this kind

438
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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. So we're gonna get a little bit more

439
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<v Speaker 1>into some of that stuff. But before we move on,

440
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<v Speaker 1>I just had this thought and I wanted to ask

441
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<v Speaker 1>your permission for the listeners. Who you are in the

442
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<v Speaker 1>Fable area, would you feel comfortable plugging your your schools

443
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<v Speaker 1>just in case there were people out there who were

444
00:24:06.839 --> 00:24:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Is it open entry or yeah?

445
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I have a school in Faydeville, downtown Fayeville called

446
00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:17.079
<v Speaker 2>Alevo Dynamics E L. E v O and Dynamics, and

447
00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:19.640
<v Speaker 2>you can find me online. But also I have one

448
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<v Speaker 2>in Southern Pines and so we have you know, we

449
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<v Speaker 2>have two locations. The one in Fayaville though, also has

450
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<v Speaker 2>a twenty four hour gym, so if you're not looking

451
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<v Speaker 2>for martial arts, you can get a twenty four hour

452
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<v Speaker 2>gym membership and come there and use our gym. It's

453
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<v Speaker 2>very nice. We have an after school program for kids

454
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<v Speaker 2>as well, so I mean we do a lot there.

455
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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's said I own the building the building

456
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<v Speaker 2>is ten thousand square feet, we use about seven thousand

457
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<v Speaker 2>of it.

458
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<v Speaker 1>So very cool, dude, that's it. So moving on. This

459
00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:51.960
<v Speaker 1>ninja talk is so awesome. I love nerding out over

460
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<v Speaker 1>martial arts stuff. Thank you well.

461
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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to answer you the question too, because you

462
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<v Speaker 2>said this is a part of a ninja culture, and

463
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<v Speaker 2>this was this this, this whole thing was the ninja away.

464
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<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, the legend is, the story

465
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<v Speaker 2>is that this guy, this summer guy who lost the

466
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<v Speaker 2>battle and he fled because he was being chased. He

467
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<v Speaker 2>fled up into the mountains. His name is Disk. He

468
00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:20.079
<v Speaker 2>comes across this Buddhist monk, this Chinese refugee that was,

469
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<v Speaker 2>you know, running from China and that was hiding out

470
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<v Speaker 2>in the hills of Japan, and you know, and that

471
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<v Speaker 2>guy said, hey, I'll teach you a way to be

472
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<v Speaker 2>invisible where you don't have to use physicality as your

473
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<v Speaker 2>only resource to be able to deal with people. And

474
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<v Speaker 2>so he taught him about the elements, and he taught

475
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<v Speaker 2>him a new way of thinking and being and that

476
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<v Speaker 2>was kind of the birth of that first union, and

477
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<v Speaker 2>then that built, and then the villages started, and so

478
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<v Speaker 2>these people lived off the land, and they wanted to

479
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<v Speaker 2>be enlightened, but they were counter. They were counter the

480
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<v Speaker 2>culture at the time. If you can imagine the culture

481
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<v Speaker 2>that wants to be the authoritarian and wants to create,

482
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<v Speaker 2>you know, control everybody. And now you have these wild

483
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<v Speaker 2>people living up in the mountains. You know that you

484
00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:04.720
<v Speaker 2>don't know what they're doing, and you just hear that

485
00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:07.400
<v Speaker 2>they can control nature and they work one with Nate.

486
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<v Speaker 2>That's scary. Before there's somebody who's trying to you know,

487
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<v Speaker 2>own the world basically, so they started to try to

488
00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:16.799
<v Speaker 2>kill these folks, and so these folks had to come

489
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<v Speaker 2>up with a way to defend themselves because they had

490
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of different you know, you know, people who

491
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<v Speaker 2>are on the rock and hiding out in these communities,

492
00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:29.440
<v Speaker 2>these rowning and everything else. They put all their minds

493
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<v Speaker 2>together and came up with a physical combative method of

494
00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:36.720
<v Speaker 2>ni jitsu, which they which they used their knowledge of

495
00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:40.960
<v Speaker 2>psychology and self and enlightenment as it means to help

496
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<v Speaker 2>them understand how to influence people and use psychological warfare,

497
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<v Speaker 2>which is why I went into the siop in the army.

498
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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, dude, you just you should just blow

499
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<v Speaker 1>my mind left and right, like I wish we lived

500
00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:58.920
<v Speaker 1>in the same town, man, because I would be I

501
00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:01.279
<v Speaker 1>would train under you. Ild you that one time a

502
00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:02.720
<v Speaker 1>year or two ago, I was like, Man, I wish

503
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:04.559
<v Speaker 1>I lived near you, because I would, I would I

504
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:07.680
<v Speaker 1>would learn under you, you know. And that's so incredible, dude.

505
00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:10.039
<v Speaker 1>But what's really mind blowing about what you just said

506
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>is I've never heard this perspective. I've even read I've

507
00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:15.839
<v Speaker 1>read one book on then just before, and it was

508
00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:18.079
<v Speaker 1>a long time ago. But but what you're telling me

509
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:23.200
<v Speaker 1>is that the mental and spiritual arts came even before

510
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<v Speaker 1>the physical.

511
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, that was theirs, and that's what gave them

512
00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:30.920
<v Speaker 2>their power. Then the Ninja weren't that they were the

513
00:27:31.079 --> 00:27:36.400
<v Speaker 2>least equipped, less trained warrior when it came down to

514
00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:39.039
<v Speaker 2>physical fighting the summer. I that's all they did. You

515
00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:43.920
<v Speaker 2>were born into that culture of warfare and fighting and

516
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:47.680
<v Speaker 2>perfecting that. So the Ninja are like, dude, we just try.

517
00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:51.960
<v Speaker 2>We we have to, you know, uh, raise families out

518
00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:53.920
<v Speaker 2>here in the wilderness. This is a hard life. We

519
00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:57.559
<v Speaker 2>gotta you know, grow food, we gotta find herbs and

520
00:27:57.599 --> 00:28:00.000
<v Speaker 2>take care of ourselves. Like we don't. We don't get

521
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:02.240
<v Speaker 2>to just sit around and train to kill at people

522
00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:04.799
<v Speaker 2>all day, you know, and so we have to be

523
00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:09.519
<v Speaker 2>able to defend ourselves and deal with threats, and in

524
00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:12.599
<v Speaker 2>this way that that isn't just physical. And because they

525
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:17.480
<v Speaker 2>were they were in the mountains, in these enlightened communities

526
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:20.200
<v Speaker 2>or these communities that were trying to be one with nature.

527
00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:23.319
<v Speaker 2>They used that to their advantage. And that's what made

528
00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:28.119
<v Speaker 2>them such a huge opponent, you know, because they were

529
00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:32.039
<v Speaker 2>able to use that knowledge that they had along with

530
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:36.880
<v Speaker 2>their physical, you know, abilities to deal with this threat.

531
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:41.519
<v Speaker 1>Wow, dude, just like knowing you personally and then also

532
00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:44.599
<v Speaker 1>finally getting to sit down and like probe your brain

533
00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>about Ninjasu. I have to say, man, you are a

534
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:50.359
<v Speaker 1>real ninja. And again I know you don't need to

535
00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:52.240
<v Speaker 1>hear that from me, but you are a real ninja.

536
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>What you guys don't know is that like Haakin is

537
00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:58.000
<v Speaker 1>really an expert in so many things. He was on

538
00:28:58.119 --> 00:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>making it afraid.

539
00:28:59.359 --> 00:28:59.559
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

540
00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And what does that tell you? That's yes, a

541
00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:08.559
<v Speaker 1>real like expert world class pushes his mind and body

542
00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>to the limits to perfect this this craft and this philosophy.

543
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>And then now we can you know, maybe shift into

544
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:16.480
<v Speaker 1>some of the remote viewing, the mind sight all that stuff,

545
00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:19.359
<v Speaker 1>So we can explore some of the more mental aspect.

546
00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:21.599
<v Speaker 1>But like the more I talk to you, like, oh

547
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:23.039
<v Speaker 1>my god, you are a real ninja.

548
00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:28.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah not well, well, ninja means one who endures, one

549
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:32.000
<v Speaker 2>who perseveres. It could also translate to one who is stealthy,

550
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:36.400
<v Speaker 2>and so people think stealth as in, you know, I

551
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:39.960
<v Speaker 2>put camel on and I'd hide out, and that that

552
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:43.240
<v Speaker 2>could be a version of invisibility or stealth. But the

553
00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:45.559
<v Speaker 2>true nature of stealth, the way I was taught by

554
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:49.039
<v Speaker 2>my teacher, is the ability to stay invisible to the

555
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:52.640
<v Speaker 2>things that would not see you succeed because not everybody

556
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:56.160
<v Speaker 2>is going to have a physical fighting battle. Most of

557
00:29:56.240 --> 00:30:00.599
<v Speaker 2>us are going to have mental battles, emotional battles, spiritual animals.

558
00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:03.319
<v Speaker 2>Those can be brought on by other people, those can

559
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:05.680
<v Speaker 2>be brought on by our own selves, those can be

560
00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:10.119
<v Speaker 2>brought on by situations. So they were clever in naming

561
00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:14.160
<v Speaker 2>the ninja one who endures to put one who can

562
00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:18.319
<v Speaker 2>put up with or who can persevere. Ninjitsu means the

563
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:22.119
<v Speaker 2>art of perseverance, the art of endurance. So the idea

564
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.319
<v Speaker 2>is like they weren't sure what you were going to

565
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:28.400
<v Speaker 2>have to deal with as an individual or as a collective.

566
00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:32.400
<v Speaker 2>So the goal was like, hey, these are the methods

567
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:35.960
<v Speaker 2>that we study on how to deal with whatever the

568
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:39.359
<v Speaker 2>hell you're dealing with in your life and be able

569
00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:41.599
<v Speaker 2>to come out on top. Because it's going to be

570
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:46.000
<v Speaker 2>different for everyone, and so you study as much as

571
00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:49.079
<v Speaker 2>you can and learn as much technology about the different

572
00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:52.279
<v Speaker 2>things out there, because you don't know what tool you're

573
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:56.480
<v Speaker 2>going to need, so it's best to have a good sized,

574
00:30:57.079 --> 00:31:03.839
<v Speaker 2>very well versus tool. It's mentally and physically, and so

575
00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:06.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's that's what that's what we are, and

576
00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:09.519
<v Speaker 2>that's for me personally. I take that to heart. So

577
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:13.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm always out here trying to understand different technologies that

578
00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:16.759
<v Speaker 2>I feel that would enhance me as a human being

579
00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:21.880
<v Speaker 2>and also forward my mission of helping other people enhance

580
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:26.039
<v Speaker 2>themselves so that we can really embody who we truly are.

581
00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:34.119
<v Speaker 1>Wow, let's talk about mindsight, remote viewing, when ROW? When

582
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:36.160
<v Speaker 1>and how did you get involved with all of these

583
00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:39.000
<v Speaker 1>various disciplines of I guess you could say, I don't

584
00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:41.759
<v Speaker 1>know what you want to call it? Psychic ability? How

585
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:42.599
<v Speaker 1>did that begin for you?

586
00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:47.200
<v Speaker 2>So it began because you know, I had I had

587
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:49.480
<v Speaker 2>some of my kids coming up, and they were just

588
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:52.400
<v Speaker 2>like we were talking about earlier. Uh, they were pretending

589
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:56.480
<v Speaker 2>to be these like Naruto characters and they would do

590
00:31:56.559 --> 00:32:00.119
<v Speaker 2>this finger weaving and they would they would they would

591
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:03.279
<v Speaker 2>say these words and and they would like pretend they

592
00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:05.480
<v Speaker 2>were throwing fireballs and this that and the other, or

593
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:09.279
<v Speaker 2>chidori or whatever. And and I was like, you know,

594
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:12.880
<v Speaker 2>we that comes from our that comes from our culture

595
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:16.319
<v Speaker 2>and then cultures around it. Where you would do uh,

596
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:20.119
<v Speaker 2>finger tying which be which would be your maudra, and

597
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:22.960
<v Speaker 2>you would say your words which would be your mantra,

598
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:25.640
<v Speaker 2>and then you would have these symbols which would be

599
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:28.680
<v Speaker 2>your yontra, right, and so you would you would do this,

600
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:31.640
<v Speaker 2>and then it would invote these abilities and you would

601
00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:36.559
<v Speaker 2>tie certain powers to these these maentra, yantra and things

602
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:38.400
<v Speaker 2>of that nature, and then you were able to summon

603
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:41.839
<v Speaker 2>them as needed. And so they were like, really, oh

604
00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:44.680
<v Speaker 2>this sounds cool, Like show me how to do that.

605
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:47.599
<v Speaker 2>And the only answer I would have I had for

606
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:50.559
<v Speaker 2>them was well, let me see you know, I've been

607
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:53.519
<v Speaker 2>doing this for twenty years. Meet me on my property

608
00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:56.880
<v Speaker 2>for the next twenty years. Then you might have an experience,

609
00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:00.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, and to tell a ten year old of

610
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:02.960
<v Speaker 2>that or eight year old, they're gonna laugh at you

611
00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:05.359
<v Speaker 2>like we just did it. We'd be like, are you crazy?

612
00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:08.440
<v Speaker 2>You know? So then I started saying to myself, I

613
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:11.240
<v Speaker 2>started seeing a problem, and I said to myself, well,

614
00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:17.720
<v Speaker 2>what's keeping these youth engaged in their own multi dimensional

615
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:22.200
<v Speaker 2>abilities and powers and really getting them to explore the

616
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:28.079
<v Speaker 2>human technology before they farm it out to like tech technology.

617
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:32.799
<v Speaker 2>Nothing against tech technology, but we haven't even really explored

618
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:35.480
<v Speaker 2>who we truly are yet, and we're getting further away

619
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:38.440
<v Speaker 2>from that. So I said, well, I need a quick

620
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:41.960
<v Speaker 2>protocol to have a person have an experience. I remember

621
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:44.960
<v Speaker 2>my teacher told me when he had first come back.

622
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:49.559
<v Speaker 2>Because everybody was interested in the US government agencies as

623
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:54.599
<v Speaker 2>well as people, you know, regular civilians in this ninja stuff,

624
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:57.839
<v Speaker 2>and he was the guy. He was the American, the

625
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:01.200
<v Speaker 2>first American to go to Japan learned ninjo system and

626
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:03.839
<v Speaker 2>bring it back to America. So they wanted to know, like,

627
00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:06.640
<v Speaker 2>what would he how would these guys successful, What do

628
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:09.960
<v Speaker 2>they have that can help my government or agency or whatever.

629
00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:12.360
<v Speaker 2>One of the people he ended up making contact with

630
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:16.559
<v Speaker 2>was a guy named Dell Graft. Dell Graft was running

631
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:21.239
<v Speaker 2>his own program because he was interested in this idea

632
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:24.480
<v Speaker 2>of remote viewing at the time. But then he eventually

633
00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:27.000
<v Speaker 2>linked up with the army guys and he ended up

634
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:31.679
<v Speaker 2>taking over the Army program, so when as it was

635
00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:34.199
<v Speaker 2>moving around, because a lot of people ended up controlling

636
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:36.440
<v Speaker 2>it or being in charge of it at at some point.

637
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:39.760
<v Speaker 2>So he told me about the story about his remote

638
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:43.039
<v Speaker 2>viewing experience and stuff, and then I started looking into

639
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:46.280
<v Speaker 2>that and I found Paul Smith, my teacher, and he

640
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:48.280
<v Speaker 2>was out in Utah and he was one of the

641
00:34:48.719 --> 00:34:53.280
<v Speaker 2>one of the second generation of remote viewers, like when

642
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:56.280
<v Speaker 2>it really kind of a first generation when it became

643
00:34:56.400 --> 00:35:02.280
<v Speaker 2>an Army program, and he went through that program and

644
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:04.800
<v Speaker 2>he started and now he's out he's been teaching these people.

645
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:06.079
<v Speaker 2>So I was like, I'm gonna go out there and

646
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:08.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna learn from this guy. And through that, I

647
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:11.199
<v Speaker 2>found a guy another group that was in Utah who

648
00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:14.519
<v Speaker 2>was doing this mind sight stuff and it seemed like

649
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:17.920
<v Speaker 2>they they could teach people quit pretty quickly to do it.

650
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:19.880
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, okay, well, when I did that for

651
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:23.880
<v Speaker 2>my fifth degree, I had to like go through hell

652
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:26.559
<v Speaker 2>just to get that, you know, to learn that, and

653
00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:29.360
<v Speaker 2>no kid, you know, is going to do that, and

654
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:31.719
<v Speaker 2>so I need to figure out a protocol for that.

655
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:34.360
<v Speaker 2>And so I started training with those guys and then

656
00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:37.280
<v Speaker 2>it just kept spiraling. Then I found out that the

657
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:41.599
<v Speaker 2>Monro Institute was a place that some of these remote

658
00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:44.559
<v Speaker 2>viewers went to go through the gateway experience. So then

659
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:46.519
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, I'm going to go through that.

660
00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:49.239
<v Speaker 2>And so I went through my first gateway and then

661
00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:51.159
<v Speaker 2>I was like, WHOA blown away by that. I had

662
00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:54.119
<v Speaker 2>all these experiences there, and I kept following that path

663
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:57.880
<v Speaker 2>of learning maybe skill sets, and that's basically it. And

664
00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:01.119
<v Speaker 2>so now years later, I've trained with almost all of

665
00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:04.599
<v Speaker 2>the all of the ones that are still alive, original

666
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:09.199
<v Speaker 2>remote viewing people from the military. I've trained with Paul Smith,

667
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Joe mcmoncle, Bill Ray, Tom McNair, Lynn Buchanan, So all

668
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:18.760
<v Speaker 2>these guys. You know, it's like maybe two people that

669
00:36:18.800 --> 00:36:20.480
<v Speaker 2>I haven't trained with, but I really don't have a

670
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.679
<v Speaker 2>desire to train with them because of other things. But

671
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:26.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, but everybody else I've trained. But I love

672
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:30.119
<v Speaker 2>those guys, their family, you know, with mindsight, most of

673
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:32.400
<v Speaker 2>the people who are teaching it in the US and

674
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:36.119
<v Speaker 2>close and abroad, I've trained with them. As well, and

675
00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:38.559
<v Speaker 2>so now I have these protocols to kind of help kids.

676
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:41.880
<v Speaker 2>And that's kind of where it all originated, was, you know, hey,

677
00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:44.599
<v Speaker 2>I got this problem with these kids. I see a

678
00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:48.360
<v Speaker 2>need here, and I want to keep youth connected because

679
00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:51.800
<v Speaker 2>they represent me. They represent the kid at nine years

680
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:54.360
<v Speaker 2>old who said I want these abilities but I couldn't

681
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:58.079
<v Speaker 2>find them. And mostly the you know, and the support

682
00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:02.239
<v Speaker 2>team that I had was supportive, oh okay, yeah, yeah, okay,

683
00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:04.440
<v Speaker 2>but they didn't know that it was a real thing,

684
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:06.719
<v Speaker 2>you know. And so in the back of my mom,

685
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:10.280
<v Speaker 2>by her own admission, was like, I thought that was

686
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:13.280
<v Speaker 2>you just being a boy and like being silly and

687
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:15.760
<v Speaker 2>not knowing the truth. What would it be like if

688
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:18.760
<v Speaker 2>we created a world where that we can teach kids

689
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.719
<v Speaker 2>these abilities, and then they become adults and have children,

690
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:25.880
<v Speaker 2>and then when the children say I have this experience,

691
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:29.400
<v Speaker 2>the parents are like, oh, yeah, that happens. Let me

692
00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:31.519
<v Speaker 2>teach you a little bit more, or let me support

693
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.599
<v Speaker 2>you in that, versus saying oh, I know that was

694
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh you're imagining. You're imagining it, or you you must

695
00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:41.480
<v Speaker 2>be sick, or or for God forbid. You know. They

696
00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:44.559
<v Speaker 2>go even deeper and darker than that and be like, oh,

697
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:47.760
<v Speaker 2>you must be possessed or you got some devil or

698
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:55.559
<v Speaker 2>something and that. Yeah, yeah, and that's that's that's terrible,

699
00:37:55.679 --> 00:37:58.519
<v Speaker 2>and that shuts people off from you know, their abilities.

700
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:02.199
<v Speaker 2>And if they I will, I will stray to say this.

701
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:06.960
<v Speaker 2>If there are dark forces out there, they that's you

702
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:12.599
<v Speaker 2>not getting that type of growth in that space works

703
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:13.320
<v Speaker 2>in their favor.

704
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, I won.

705
00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:21.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, we can't give it lip service to it

706
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:25.280
<v Speaker 2>and saying oh, well, you know, just say these words

707
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:29.639
<v Speaker 2>and everything will be fine, versus like really developing the

708
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:33.000
<v Speaker 2>gifts and the powers that it's like me, It's like me,

709
00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:36.920
<v Speaker 2>let's just take it on a very real military scale.

710
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:39.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to make it about fighting. I'm just

711
00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:42.079
<v Speaker 2>doing it because probably most people can understand it cleaner.

712
00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:45.519
<v Speaker 2>Let's like I sing you to war and I give

713
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:47.960
<v Speaker 2>you a gun, but then I tell you can't use it.

714
00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Just use just just talk to all the people who

715
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:53.840
<v Speaker 2>are trying to kill you, you know, yes, and you're like

716
00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:56.760
<v Speaker 2>you're like you're like, uh, yeah, but you gave me

717
00:38:56.760 --> 00:38:59.079
<v Speaker 2>the gun. Yeah. I'm not gonna teach you how to

718
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:01.400
<v Speaker 2>use that thing, because I don't think you need that,

719
00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:04.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's that's evil or whatever. Just go over

720
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:07.280
<v Speaker 2>there and talk and yeah, they got guns and they're

721
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:09.079
<v Speaker 2>probably going to try to kill you, but you know,

722
00:39:09.239 --> 00:39:11.320
<v Speaker 2>maybe you get lucky and you just happen to have

723
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:13.719
<v Speaker 2>a conversation with the one guy who doesn't want to

724
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:16.159
<v Speaker 2>kill you. You know. But it's like that, like we

725
00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:18.320
<v Speaker 2>have the gift. The gifts will give in to us

726
00:39:18.360 --> 00:39:21.119
<v Speaker 2>to be powerful in a good positive way and to

727
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:24.519
<v Speaker 2>continue to be be light bringers to the world. And

728
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:27.679
<v Speaker 2>we're not even exploring what that really feels like because

729
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:31.000
<v Speaker 2>we're doldling it out or we're allowing people to tell

730
00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:33.440
<v Speaker 2>us what our experience should be. Right.

731
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I saw a video that you sent me one time.

732
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I hope you're comfortable talking about this. If not, we

733
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:40.280
<v Speaker 1>can cut it out. But you sent me a video

734
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:42.559
<v Speaker 1>one time of you doing some sort of mind sight

735
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:45.719
<v Speaker 1>thing with the kids at your school. And I don't

736
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:47.800
<v Speaker 1>know if that's if you've posted that anywhere, but I

737
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:50.920
<v Speaker 1>thought it was amazing. So before we jump into side games,

738
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:53.400
<v Speaker 1>because I think we've stoked that fire quite enough and

739
00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:56.039
<v Speaker 1>it's time to take out. Before we get into side games,

740
00:39:56.519 --> 00:39:59.159
<v Speaker 1>could you give us a little crash course on mind sight,

741
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:02.199
<v Speaker 1>because we have briefly mentioned it on our show before,

742
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:05.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe like two episodes, the ones with Dax and Peter,

743
00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:08.679
<v Speaker 1>but we haven't like really discussed it with somebody who's

744
00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:10.760
<v Speaker 1>still to this day practices it and is more or

745
00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:13.039
<v Speaker 1>less an expert on it. So maybe we could have

746
00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:15.199
<v Speaker 1>like a crash course on mind sit that.

747
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:19.519
<v Speaker 2>Yes, So mindsight is your ability to see and perceive

748
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:24.000
<v Speaker 2>things without your eyes that are that are in your vicinity. Right.

749
00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:28.079
<v Speaker 2>So in remote viewing or in these type of modalities,

750
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:31.000
<v Speaker 2>they have a thing that's called non local awareness and

751
00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:33.960
<v Speaker 2>local awareness. So non local with awareness would be like

752
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:37.880
<v Speaker 2>remote viewing, meaning that I'm bi located, I can go,

753
00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:40.719
<v Speaker 2>I could be here and there at the same time.

754
00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:44.320
<v Speaker 2>So that's where remote viewing is different from astral projection, right,

755
00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:48.639
<v Speaker 2>because astral projection is me projecting my spirit or my

756
00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:52.360
<v Speaker 2>energy somewhere else and I'm only aware of there, but

757
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:55.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure what's going on in my body space

758
00:40:56.119 --> 00:40:59.559
<v Speaker 2>because I'm gone, right, my location means that I'm here

759
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:02.239
<v Speaker 2>and there at the same time, so I'm able to

760
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:06.400
<v Speaker 2>retrieve information and bring it back. So that's that's also

761
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:10.719
<v Speaker 2>considered nonlocal awareness because I'm aware of what's going on

762
00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:16.039
<v Speaker 2>non locally right. Local awareness is that I am aware

763
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:20.519
<v Speaker 2>of what's happening locally right, So I'm actually but I'm

764
00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:24.760
<v Speaker 2>not using my normal five or six senses in five

765
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:28.039
<v Speaker 2>senses right, So I'm using something else to be aware

766
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:30.719
<v Speaker 2>of that. And so mindsight is your ability to see

767
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:34.519
<v Speaker 2>without your sight and something you know that's that's relative.

768
00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Some people can actually see, like see through stuff, and

769
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:42.519
<v Speaker 2>I've had those moments. I'm not as good as some

770
00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:44.840
<v Speaker 2>of the folks that I've seen who've had what we

771
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:49.320
<v Speaker 2>call full openings, meaning they can they can literally see

772
00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:52.960
<v Speaker 2>real time all the time with something covering their eyes.

773
00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:58.000
<v Speaker 2>So I transition back and forth between almost a local

774
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:04.280
<v Speaker 2>awareness it or a local perception where I can perceive

775
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:08.880
<v Speaker 2>and know what I'm looking at even though I can't

776
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:13.239
<v Speaker 2>see what I'm looking at like I would with my eyes,

777
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:18.039
<v Speaker 2>whereas other people can see real time consistently what they're

778
00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:21.719
<v Speaker 2>looking at without their eyes. Now their theories as to

779
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.239
<v Speaker 2>why that is, you know, some people say it's your

780
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:28.239
<v Speaker 2>higher self, like there's a portion of you that's outside

781
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:31.800
<v Speaker 2>of you, that's look that's aware of what's happening around you,

782
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:35.679
<v Speaker 2>and so you can see those through that thing's eyes

783
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:38.639
<v Speaker 2>that hire selfs eyes or I'm saying eyes, but it

784
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:41.039
<v Speaker 2>really is in the eyes, right, and so that's what

785
00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:45.320
<v Speaker 2>you're looking through. One group that I trained with, they said, well,

786
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:51.079
<v Speaker 2>it's everything is vibratory. So everything is vibrating, and when

787
00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:55.440
<v Speaker 2>you're looking at an object, even though it's really not there,

788
00:42:55.480 --> 00:42:59.280
<v Speaker 2>it's just it's because it's just these molecules vibrating at

789
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:04.599
<v Speaker 2>different speeds right in these atoms you, it is making

790
00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:07.880
<v Speaker 2>the shape. And so just like we look at the

791
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:10.880
<v Speaker 2>waveform of a cup, like I'm looking at you on

792
00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:14.400
<v Speaker 2>the other screen right now, you are just what I'm

793
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:18.079
<v Speaker 2>actually perceiving is the waveform of the image of you

794
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:22.760
<v Speaker 2>that gets you know, goes into my eyes, flips around,

795
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:25.079
<v Speaker 2>goes back to the back of my mind. My mind

796
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:29.280
<v Speaker 2>kind of makes sense of oh, he that's Ryan. I've

797
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:33.159
<v Speaker 2>seen him before, and I've taken his waveform and I've

798
00:43:33.480 --> 00:43:36.639
<v Speaker 2>implanted it on top of it a name and who

799
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:40.280
<v Speaker 2>you are and ideas and concepts about you. Right, But

800
00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:44.280
<v Speaker 2>you're just a waveform, just like sound. When I hear sound,

801
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:47.760
<v Speaker 2>it's a waveform hitting my ear, and my brain has

802
00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:51.840
<v Speaker 2>learned how to turn that into something that makes sense

803
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:55.480
<v Speaker 2>and means of us to communicate or whether it's music

804
00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:59.039
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. And so that's the same thing with these

805
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:02.199
<v Speaker 2>guys say, with this this vibratory, So when you don't

806
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:05.519
<v Speaker 2>have eyes online, you can sense these things vibrations because

807
00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:10.280
<v Speaker 2>your vibration and its vibration can actually melt or you

808
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:14.239
<v Speaker 2>can feel it. And so then you're training your brain

809
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:18.639
<v Speaker 2>how to recognize the vibration of a cup per se, right,

810
00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:24.000
<v Speaker 2>or a microphone, or the color red or green, just

811
00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:27.519
<v Speaker 2>like your brain has learned how to recognize that through

812
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:30.400
<v Speaker 2>your eyes when it actually sees that we form of

813
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:35.639
<v Speaker 2>the cup. You can teach your inner body in this case,

814
00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:38.840
<v Speaker 2>this one group says, your pinial gland. You could teach

815
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:42.880
<v Speaker 2>it because it's a receiver to perceive the vibrations of

816
00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:47.039
<v Speaker 2>this thing and then overlay onto that what it is.

817
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:49.440
<v Speaker 2>So you do it enough times and you feel a

818
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:51.840
<v Speaker 2>cup enough times and you know that the next time

819
00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:54.960
<v Speaker 2>you get that feeling, oh that's a cup. You feel

820
00:44:55.679 --> 00:44:57.920
<v Speaker 2>the color red, And enough times and you get that

821
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:00.679
<v Speaker 2>feeling and you say, oh, that's the color red, just

822
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:02.760
<v Speaker 2>like we would with our natural eyes. Right.

823
00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's mind blowing. Any thoughts on that thing.

824
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:10.840
<v Speaker 3>That's a super comprehensive explanation of that, Like, I mean,

825
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:13.239
<v Speaker 3>I've heard about mindsight, like you said, we talked about

826
00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:16.480
<v Speaker 3>it along a couple of other episodes before in Passing. Yeah,

827
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:19.440
<v Speaker 3>in Passing, And it's hard. It's kind of hard to

828
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:21.599
<v Speaker 3>wrap your head around a little bit, you know. It's

829
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:25.559
<v Speaker 3>like the concept makes sense, especially if you're like exposed

830
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:28.440
<v Speaker 3>to this this kind of like psychic world and these

831
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:33.400
<v Speaker 3>other adjacent abilities and that sort of thing, but to

832
00:45:33.880 --> 00:45:37.320
<v Speaker 3>know like comprehensively, like it's just a waveform. It's still

833
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:39.679
<v Speaker 3>in the room with you. Your body can still sense

834
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:43.039
<v Speaker 3>it with your senses, but not with the senses that

835
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:48.559
<v Speaker 3>it's used to like to experiencing it with learning how

836
00:45:48.559 --> 00:45:51.800
<v Speaker 3>to tap into the other ways of sensing what the

837
00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:54.559
<v Speaker 3>object is or what the thing you're trying to focus

838
00:45:54.559 --> 00:46:00.199
<v Speaker 3>on is. Because your brain knows what it is, it

839
00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:02.440
<v Speaker 3>knows how to recognize those waveforms.

840
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:03.519
<v Speaker 1>You're just kind of.

841
00:46:03.480 --> 00:46:07.840
<v Speaker 3>Training yourself how to do a different version of sensing

842
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:08.760
<v Speaker 3>those waveforms.

843
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:10.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

844
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:12.199
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I really like the way that you broke

845
00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:15.599
<v Speaker 3>that down. And it makes complete and total sense to

846
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:18.920
<v Speaker 3>me when you explain it that way, But without explaining

847
00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:22.239
<v Speaker 3>it that, without that explanation, it's kind of like Okay,

848
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:24.440
<v Speaker 3>so magic, right, it's like.

849
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:28.960
<v Speaker 2>All right, yeah, it's like, okay.

850
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Great magic, I get it. But when you break it

851
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:32.760
<v Speaker 1>down like that, I'm like, that's that's for the science.

852
00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:35.159
<v Speaker 2>I can get.

853
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:37.280
<v Speaker 1>I can get all the way behind that. That's side

854
00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:41.599
<v Speaker 1>that's sick. That's a really comprehensive explanation. And it always

855
00:46:41.639 --> 00:46:45.000
<v Speaker 1>ends up being that way too. Every spiritual or psychic

856
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:48.519
<v Speaker 1>thing that truly exists, there is always some equal scientific

857
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:52.679
<v Speaker 1>explanation that we just don't know yet. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

858
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:56.760
<v Speaker 3>And I just for one to really appreciate that and

859
00:46:56.800 --> 00:47:01.599
<v Speaker 3>your ability to relay that information just I think I've

860
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:04.800
<v Speaker 3>always been very fascinated like looking at things through a

861
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:07.840
<v Speaker 3>scientific lens, and so I think, just for me at least,

862
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:12.239
<v Speaker 3>I can it's easy to contextualize it, or it's easy

863
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:15.000
<v Speaker 3>to understand when it's contextualized that way.

864
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:19.159
<v Speaker 1>It's very helpful. Yeah, yeah, that's so cool. So let's

865
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:26.039
<v Speaker 1>talk some psy games. MANI the founder of the psy Games.

866
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:30.199
<v Speaker 1>Let's go this summer will be the first ever psy games.

867
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:34.679
<v Speaker 1>What was your inspiration for that? You know, that's that's

868
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:38.360
<v Speaker 1>a pretty obvious answer, but like, when did you finally

869
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:41.239
<v Speaker 1>come to your senses? No pun intended and just be

870
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:43.159
<v Speaker 1>like I have to do this. This is the year.

871
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Let's go. Yeah. So there was several So first off,

872
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:49.719
<v Speaker 2>it came as a weird download. We're just kind of

873
00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:52.719
<v Speaker 2>hit me one day and I was just like, you know,

874
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:56.840
<v Speaker 2>that seems good, like an idea of like where we

875
00:47:56.880 --> 00:47:59.559
<v Speaker 2>can really push the envelope. Because what I was seeing

876
00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:02.320
<v Speaker 2>as I was traveling and all these different circles was

877
00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:06.159
<v Speaker 2>everybody was really awesome and they were doing their different things,

878
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:09.719
<v Speaker 2>but I saw stuff over here that people could do

879
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:12.559
<v Speaker 2>that these people over here didn't know that was possible.

880
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:14.280
<v Speaker 2>And then I'd be trying to explain to them what

881
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:17.079
<v Speaker 2>these guys over here we're doing. And but these guys

882
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:19.079
<v Speaker 2>over here that could do something that these guys didn't

883
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:21.159
<v Speaker 2>know were possible, and I'm trying to explain to them,

884
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:23.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, And I was like, you know what, we

885
00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:25.880
<v Speaker 2>really needed to bring all these people together so that

886
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:27.679
<v Speaker 2>they can see what each other can do, and we

887
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:30.320
<v Speaker 2>can to inspire each other to the next level of

888
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:35.000
<v Speaker 2>this and push each other year after year to get better, right,

889
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:37.760
<v Speaker 2>and that it was like boom side Games and all

890
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:40.480
<v Speaker 2>that information with them, and then I was like I

891
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:43.679
<v Speaker 2>was like, no, I got two businesses. I got a

892
00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:46.360
<v Speaker 2>baby on the way, I got this thing happening, and

893
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:49.239
<v Speaker 2>I got so much stuff going on, like nobody got

894
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:52.400
<v Speaker 2>time for no damn side games, you know, like I'll

895
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:55.360
<v Speaker 2>let somebody. I'll let somebody else figure that out, you know.

896
00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:59.039
<v Speaker 2>And then it was synchronicities just kept popping up with

897
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:01.719
<v Speaker 2>something else what happened, and I would be like, oh,

898
00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:05.039
<v Speaker 2>my gosh, like and then answer would be side games.

899
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:07.320
<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, oh, why is this thing happening over here?

900
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:09.519
<v Speaker 2>You know, blah blah blah. And then the solution was

901
00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:11.760
<v Speaker 2>side games, and I was like, oh, yeah, but I

902
00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:13.559
<v Speaker 2>don't have time for that. Why does that keep coming up?

903
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:17.039
<v Speaker 2>And finally the last straw was I was listening to

904
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:20.480
<v Speaker 2>a podcast and I hope I'm not crossing the lines,

905
00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:24.639
<v Speaker 2>but I mentioned another podcast, okay, but it was a guy.

906
00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:27.679
<v Speaker 2>It was George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell on the Weaponize

907
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Cool and they had if you guys hadn't read the book,

908
00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:35.760
<v Speaker 2>skim Walker's at the Pentagon, they had the d i A,

909
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:38.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, a high leveld a government operative that worked

910
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:41.719
<v Speaker 2>that the you know that worked at the d i A.

911
00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:44.800
<v Speaker 2>He had retired. He wrote this book skim Walkers at

912
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:47.119
<v Speaker 2>the Pentagon, and it was talking about all their research

913
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:49.639
<v Speaker 2>into paranormal and the UAP and things of that nature,

914
00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:52.840
<v Speaker 2>and that this was a real phenomenon, that things were

915
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:57.159
<v Speaker 2>really happening, right And George, I mean Jeremy Corbell at

916
00:49:57.159 --> 00:50:01.480
<v Speaker 2>one point, and the thing the interviews said, as he says, man,

917
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:04.599
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about some heavy stuff, you know, u A P.

918
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:08.159
<v Speaker 2>Inter dimensional beings. They can you know, shift in and

919
00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:10.880
<v Speaker 2>out of phase with us, and if we can't do

920
00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:13.920
<v Speaker 2>any of that, isn't that scary? And the guy said,

921
00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:17.760
<v Speaker 2>oh no, I don't see anything scary here at all.

922
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:20.000
<v Speaker 2>He said, what I can tell you and I can

923
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.320
<v Speaker 2>only say this much. I can't go into more details,

924
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:24.159
<v Speaker 2>or you try to ask me any more questions. I'm

925
00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:27.239
<v Speaker 2>not going to say. But if we could do and

926
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:30.880
<v Speaker 2>embody all that we as human beings are capable of,

927
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:35.199
<v Speaker 2>we would have no reason to fear these things. And

928
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:39.320
<v Speaker 2>they and it hit and it was like like I

929
00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:42.159
<v Speaker 2>don't know, it was like the Tyler Dirton moment, and

930
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:54.480
<v Speaker 2>and it was like I am you know, so it's

931
00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:59.360
<v Speaker 2>like it was it was like whoa yes, And then

932
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:01.159
<v Speaker 2>and this is the way I explained it, how it

933
00:51:01.239 --> 00:51:03.199
<v Speaker 2>kind of hit me in a certain way. I was like,

934
00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:07.800
<v Speaker 2>if you told me today, hey, haikem tomorrow you're gonna

935
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:12.639
<v Speaker 2>have to fight Mike Tyson, I'd be scared, craplets because

936
00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:16.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not in boxing, because I'm not good enough to

937
00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:19.719
<v Speaker 2>fight Mike Tyson in boxing and I have no skill

938
00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:22.760
<v Speaker 2>sets that or I haven't trained hard enough to be

939
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:26.480
<v Speaker 2>on that level. However, if I trained and walked the

940
00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:29.559
<v Speaker 2>walk of Mike Tyson as a fighter and another you know,

941
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:32.800
<v Speaker 2>as another walk, and then you said, hey, you've earned

942
00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:36.760
<v Speaker 2>your way up here. Now Mike Tyson is the heavyweight champion.

943
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:39.440
<v Speaker 2>I want you to face off to. Yeah, it's still

944
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:42.239
<v Speaker 2>gonna be some nervousness there, but not not if you

945
00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:44.400
<v Speaker 2>just pulled me off the street and said tomorrow you're

946
00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:47.280
<v Speaker 2>gonna fight Mike Tyson. If I was a champion fighter

947
00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:50.559
<v Speaker 2>that I've been fighting championship matches for a long time

948
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:53.360
<v Speaker 2>and then you said that, yeah, it's gonna be some nervousness,

949
00:51:53.440 --> 00:51:55.480
<v Speaker 2>but not to the same level because I have the

950
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:59.000
<v Speaker 2>capabilities and skills to deal with that. We as human

951
00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:01.719
<v Speaker 2>beings a very tricky when we when we don't feel

952
00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:04.920
<v Speaker 2>like we match up, we immediately fear, and that fear

953
00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:08.519
<v Speaker 2>turns into hate, and that and that hate turns into

954
00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:12.199
<v Speaker 2>a desire to kill or destroy, and so how do

955
00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:15.960
<v Speaker 2>we get rid of that? You know? Is is? And

956
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:19.320
<v Speaker 2>and let me let me also preface though, that there

957
00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:22.079
<v Speaker 2>could be things out there that are also not good, right,

958
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:25.760
<v Speaker 2>so so so so it could be like, yeah, it

959
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:28.639
<v Speaker 2>would be cool to like not just know this because

960
00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:31.920
<v Speaker 2>it's going to help me build, not to get rid

961
00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:34.559
<v Speaker 2>of ego and fear and all that stuff. This isn't

962
00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:37.679
<v Speaker 2>like kumbaya, like, hey, they don't mean none of them

963
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:41.440
<v Speaker 2>mean us any harm, right, and and that we should

964
00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:44.480
<v Speaker 2>just open up to every everything. It could be that

965
00:52:44.519 --> 00:52:46.559
<v Speaker 2>there are things out there that mean us harm, and

966
00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:49.199
<v Speaker 2>it could and but I also very well know that

967
00:52:49.239 --> 00:52:51.039
<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of things out there that don't,

968
00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:55.320
<v Speaker 2>but we're just not capable of being able to at

969
00:52:55.320 --> 00:52:58.239
<v Speaker 2>this level. Only few of us are capable of being

970
00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:01.199
<v Speaker 2>being able to communicate with them on a consistent basis.

971
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:03.920
<v Speaker 2>And what I really believe is that we raise a

972
00:53:03.960 --> 00:53:08.920
<v Speaker 2>generation of people who are able to embrace these abilities

973
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:12.159
<v Speaker 2>and really start to practice and embody who we truly

974
00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:17.480
<v Speaker 2>are as these multi dimensional beings, then there's no more.

975
00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:21.760
<v Speaker 2>There's not fear on that same level of bumping into

976
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:24.840
<v Speaker 2>an entity and saying, oh shit, I don't know what

977
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:26.960
<v Speaker 2>that is. Oh no, I can do all these things

978
00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:30.400
<v Speaker 2>that I can't do, you know, versus saying, oh, hey,

979
00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:32.760
<v Speaker 2>how you doing. I knew at some point you show up,

980
00:53:33.079 --> 00:53:36.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, and then that thing knows what level I'm

981
00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:38.400
<v Speaker 2>dealing with, so we can have a conversation. We can

982
00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:42.360
<v Speaker 2>have a really great conversation versus this really fear based

983
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:44.360
<v Speaker 2>thing where I'm not sure what they want and what

984
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:46.920
<v Speaker 2>they're doing and so on and so forth. And that

985
00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:49.719
<v Speaker 2>really set me on this trajectory. And I said, Okay,

986
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:52.559
<v Speaker 2>this has come up so many times, I have to

987
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:56.039
<v Speaker 2>at least try. I have to at least try. And

988
00:53:56.440 --> 00:53:58.880
<v Speaker 2>I talked to Jeffrey mish Love. He backed me. I

989
00:53:58.920 --> 00:54:02.199
<v Speaker 2>talked to your dad back me, and I was like, Okay,

990
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:05.519
<v Speaker 2>if it wasn't gonna be, if it didn't make sense,

991
00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:09.159
<v Speaker 2>these people wouldn't be getting behind me and it. And

992
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:12.079
<v Speaker 2>apparently it does make sense, and this is the time

993
00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:14.679
<v Speaker 2>for And since then, if you look at the Side

994
00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:20.639
<v Speaker 2>Game's website, we have grown tremendously and we have yeah,

995
00:54:20.679 --> 00:54:23.159
<v Speaker 2>we have some of the most amazing people in the

996
00:54:23.199 --> 00:54:29.320
<v Speaker 2>film that are that are coming to this thing, this realm. Yeah. Yeah,

997
00:54:29.519 --> 00:54:34.760
<v Speaker 2>from Diane Diane Powell, who's from my telepathy tapes, to

998
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:39.760
<v Speaker 2>to really Amazing, to Thomas Campbell, to your dad, to

999
00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Danny Sheehan too. I mean, it's just so many people

1000
00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:50.119
<v Speaker 2>coming to this. Alan the CEO of Monroe, John Cruth,

1001
00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:54.719
<v Speaker 2>the president of the Ryan Institute of the University of

1002
00:54:54.840 --> 00:54:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Virginia Department of Perceptual Studies, is sending three of their

1003
00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:00.360
<v Speaker 2>high level scientists.

1004
00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Will be there.

1005
00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:05.440
<v Speaker 2>I just put a list Alexander. Yeah, I mean, it's

1006
00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Paul Smith. It just keeps going and it's like, yeah, del.

1007
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:15.599
<v Speaker 1>Graph Is has been an updated list since I've checked,

1008
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:18.199
<v Speaker 1>just keeps going.

1009
00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's such such a beautiful thing and and it's

1010
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:27.760
<v Speaker 2>powerful and we are and and here's the thing, Like

1011
00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:31.960
<v Speaker 2>adults learning this information I think is great, right, that

1012
00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:35.599
<v Speaker 2>it's great, But I really really, really really want to

1013
00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:38.360
<v Speaker 2>get this to the youth. I really wanted to get

1014
00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:41.039
<v Speaker 2>the US on board. And here's the trick I always

1015
00:55:41.039 --> 00:55:43.679
<v Speaker 2>tell I'm always I always say I'm being tricky. I'm

1016
00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:47.679
<v Speaker 2>being I'm using a little scio here, because because kids

1017
00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:52.280
<v Speaker 2>are motivated through through fun and they're motivated through competition,

1018
00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:54.840
<v Speaker 2>and they'll they'll play video game for eight hours a

1019
00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:58.880
<v Speaker 2>day and not leave the television, right, And and I'm like, so,

1020
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:01.320
<v Speaker 2>how do we motivate kids to do this? Well, we

1021
00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:04.840
<v Speaker 2>have this game, and then they get inspired and they

1022
00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:07.840
<v Speaker 2>see somebody one of their friends do really well, and

1023
00:56:07.880 --> 00:56:09.519
<v Speaker 2>what do you think they're gonna do? They're gonna go

1024
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:12.920
<v Speaker 2>home and want to practice. And then when you say, hey,

1025
00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:15.360
<v Speaker 2>the way you get better at this is you have

1026
00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:18.119
<v Speaker 2>to get better at what's going on inside. You have

1027
00:56:18.199 --> 00:56:20.639
<v Speaker 2>to do some meditation, you have to do all this stuff.

1028
00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:23.639
<v Speaker 2>Now you have a this this is my dream, right,

1029
00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:27.000
<v Speaker 2>this is my dream. Now you have an eight nine

1030
00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:31.599
<v Speaker 2>ten year old sitting at home meditating, clearing out all

1031
00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:34.639
<v Speaker 2>their shit that they've accumulated up to that point to

1032
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:40.000
<v Speaker 2>get even better right at these abilities. But the more

1033
00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:42.320
<v Speaker 2>all we know, all of this age is say, the

1034
00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:46.719
<v Speaker 2>more time you spend inside and self reflection and I

1035
00:56:46.760 --> 00:56:49.719
<v Speaker 2>stay sages, but this could be monks or whatever, you know,

1036
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:54.280
<v Speaker 2>whatever culture you're doing with the right the more time

1037
00:56:54.360 --> 00:56:59.960
<v Speaker 2>you spend in introspection and reflection self reflection, the more

1038
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:04.360
<v Speaker 2>you start to weed away all of the crap, and

1039
00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:09.199
<v Speaker 2>the more you start to recognize not only your own holism,

1040
00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:13.400
<v Speaker 2>like the true potential that you have, but also how

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00:57:13.480 --> 00:57:17.039
<v Speaker 2>much you're connected to everything else. And so through this

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00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:22.599
<v Speaker 2>gaming idea, we're going to hopefully create a bridge for

1043
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:28.199
<v Speaker 2>kids and young adults start to explore the true nature

1044
00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:31.639
<v Speaker 2>of who they really are and then doing so, reach

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<v Speaker 2>a new potential of mankind.

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<v Speaker 1>Well wow, what a mission statement, honestly, and I do

1047
00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:44.079
<v Speaker 1>believe it's achievable. Absolutely. I'm setting this intention now. This

1048
00:57:44.119 --> 00:57:46.400
<v Speaker 1>thought occurred to me while we were talking. Because this

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00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:50.199
<v Speaker 1>episode will come out months before the Side Games. I

1050
00:57:50.239 --> 00:57:55.320
<v Speaker 1>will be there as a commentator. Jakima invited me to participate,

1051
00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:58.039
<v Speaker 1>and I said, you called me, or maybe I called you,

1052
00:57:58.079 --> 00:57:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, and you were like, I would love

1053
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:02.360
<v Speaker 1>if you'd be a commentator. And I was so shocked.

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00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I said, look, man, you just put me in a

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00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:05.440
<v Speaker 1>place and not do whatever he asked me to do.

1056
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:08.079
<v Speaker 1>I've never done that, but I'll do it. And you know,

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00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:10.000
<v Speaker 1>here we are, and I'm happy to be a part.

1058
00:58:10.039 --> 00:58:13.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited. My dad's going, although I don't know what

1059
00:58:13.679 --> 00:58:15.880
<v Speaker 1>his role is. I just know he's going. Maybe he's

1060
00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:19.840
<v Speaker 1>a oh amazing cool So I'm setting the intention now

1061
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:24.199
<v Speaker 1>and with the listeners hearing this and with you you

1062
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:26.480
<v Speaker 1>and I have skywatched several times. I know, you know,

1063
00:58:26.639 --> 00:58:29.800
<v Speaker 1>like we go way back. It goes beyond this internet thing.

1064
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:31.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, we met in my brother's backyard at my

1065
00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:34.920
<v Speaker 1>nephew's birthday party. So you know the drill. You know

1066
00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:36.800
<v Speaker 1>the Orbs, You've seen him many times, you know what

1067
00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:39.719
<v Speaker 1>we do. I'm setting the intention now that when nightfall happens,

1068
00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:44.920
<v Speaker 1>that we will get to see some Orbs and what

1069
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:47.320
<v Speaker 1>an amazing after show, right, So let's let's just throw

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00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:50.000
<v Speaker 1>that out there as an idea. The next thing I

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00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:53.719
<v Speaker 1>wanted to bring up was logistics for those listening at home.

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00:58:54.719 --> 00:58:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Forgive me for not knowing this. When do registrations close

1073
00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:02.239
<v Speaker 1>for participants to enter? Because there's two angles here, there's

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00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:04.360
<v Speaker 1>participants and then there's viewers.

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00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Correct, there's people, yes, yes, so you could be a

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00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:10.760
<v Speaker 2>sp So the side games is three things in one, right,

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00:59:10.840 --> 00:59:15.000
<v Speaker 2>So there is there is a conference where people where

1078
00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:20.239
<v Speaker 2>if you are like curious about siabilities, if you are

1079
00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:24.159
<v Speaker 2>you know already know about it, but you want to

1080
00:59:24.199 --> 00:59:27.639
<v Speaker 2>know more, right, you can come and actually learn from

1081
00:59:27.719 --> 00:59:30.000
<v Speaker 2>all of these different speakers. You can talk to them.

1082
00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:32.280
<v Speaker 2>You can learn from. They're gonna have workshops, they're gonna

1083
00:59:32.280 --> 00:59:36.559
<v Speaker 2>have lectures, so you have that. Then it's the competition.

1084
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:39.840
<v Speaker 2>If you want to see what it's like to test

1085
00:59:39.880 --> 00:59:42.920
<v Speaker 2>people and see how well they do and people like

1086
00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:48.159
<v Speaker 2>really push themselves in these abilities, then we have that competition. Right.

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00:59:48.400 --> 00:59:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Then there are these keynoteses, lectures and speeches where and

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00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:59.480
<v Speaker 2>audience participation training where we have aud the audience work

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00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:02.559
<v Speaker 2>on different things as an audience. And so those are

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01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:06.239
<v Speaker 2>the three aspects. So you can register just to sign

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01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:09.920
<v Speaker 2>up to be there for all of it, or you

1092
01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:15.079
<v Speaker 2>can be just participant in the games. And if you

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01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:18.800
<v Speaker 2>signed up for the participant in games, oddly enough, we

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01:00:18.920 --> 01:00:21.679
<v Speaker 2>are nearing our cap of how many people can actually

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01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:22.639
<v Speaker 2>sign up for that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great, Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah it's exciting. Let me

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01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:31.599
<v Speaker 1>plug this really quick because I'm assuming let's let's uh

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01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:36.360
<v Speaker 1>get this right with the founder himself. I have this

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01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:43.079
<v Speaker 1>code here which is all caps Ryan bpg I twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about how people can use this code for

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01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:54.440
<v Speaker 1>their tickets. Is this for audience participation lectures, the seminars.

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01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's just go into like I want people to

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01:00:57.079 --> 01:00:59.039
<v Speaker 1>leave the show knowing how they can sign up, what

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01:00:59.039 --> 01:01:01.239
<v Speaker 1>they can expect to expect arrangement that get there, because

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01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:05.519
<v Speaker 1>I would love to see our lovely listeners show up,

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01:01:06.599 --> 01:01:09.639
<v Speaker 1>meet the crew, you know, experience the games, be there

1107
01:01:09.639 --> 01:01:13.840
<v Speaker 1>and witness this historical event. So let's let's let's clarify

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01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:16.880
<v Speaker 1>that so that the people at home listening know where

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01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:17.800
<v Speaker 1>they can go to sign up.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have, you know, on our website. You know,

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01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:25.880
<v Speaker 2>we have four different tiers in which you can participate in.

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01:01:26.400 --> 01:01:28.599
<v Speaker 2>So either you could come and just be a person

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01:01:28.639 --> 01:01:31.320
<v Speaker 2>who just comes to the games and watch the games

1114
01:01:31.360 --> 01:01:34.519
<v Speaker 2>and maybe do one or two community events. You can

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01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:37.920
<v Speaker 2>come and actually do two or three lectures and then

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01:01:38.119 --> 01:01:40.280
<v Speaker 2>also be a part of the games. You could do

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01:01:40.320 --> 01:01:42.159
<v Speaker 2>all of the lectures and be a part of the games.

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01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:44.880
<v Speaker 2>And then there's also a VIIP thing that you can do.

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01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:48.239
<v Speaker 2>So you can sign up for any of those four

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<v Speaker 2>and use the code that you just said. So that's

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01:01:51.559 --> 01:01:56.519
<v Speaker 2>Ryan b PGI for Side Games International twenty five and

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01:01:56.559 --> 01:01:59.119
<v Speaker 2>they will get twenty percent off of their ticket.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, so they get a twentyscal used in

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01:02:03.239 --> 01:02:04.400
<v Speaker 2>that code.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is Thy Games International dot com PSI FORSI

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01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:13.239
<v Speaker 1>like psionic or Psychic PSI, Side Games International dot Com.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, amazing, that is.

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<v Speaker 1>That is I'm incredibly excited. I think that this was,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, a fantastic conversation, but second of all,

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01:02:23.719 --> 01:02:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that there's a lot that's on the table

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01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:28.079
<v Speaker 1>that could still be explored. I would love to see

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01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:33.239
<v Speaker 1>post side games, right. We got to figure it out

1134
01:02:33.239 --> 01:02:35.239
<v Speaker 1>to where we can work. I know you have a newborn, which,

1135
01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:39.000
<v Speaker 1>by the way, congratulations is beautiful, and family is beautiful.

1136
01:02:39.960 --> 01:02:42.920
<v Speaker 1>There's so much that we didn't have time to explore,

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01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:46.119
<v Speaker 1>so I would love to see post side games where

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01:02:46.119 --> 01:02:48.880
<v Speaker 1>we have you in studio. Somehow we'll make it work.

1139
01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:52.920
<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about side games the fallout of that. We

1140
01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:56.840
<v Speaker 1>can also go into your survival expertise, because you have

1141
01:02:56.960 --> 01:02:59.679
<v Speaker 1>so much there. I mean I actually just went to

1142
01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:05.039
<v Speaker 1>one of your survival conferences or expo. Yeah, even better,

1143
01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:07.679
<v Speaker 1>I went to your expo. It was amazing. It was

1144
01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:11.199
<v Speaker 1>so cool. We can talk survival, we can talk psy ops.

1145
01:03:11.239 --> 01:03:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that would be I know there's somebody listening

1146
01:03:14.639 --> 01:03:16.840
<v Speaker 1>that would hear I say syops and be like, why

1147
01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:17.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't you guys talk about that?

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01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:18.199
<v Speaker 2>Well?

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01:03:19.239 --> 01:03:23.320
<v Speaker 1>You know par two? Yeah, Part two? You're the man dude,

1150
01:03:23.320 --> 01:03:25.559
<v Speaker 1>you're so cool. I'm very excited for the side games.

1151
01:03:25.599 --> 01:03:27.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to be a part of this historic event.

1152
01:03:28.119 --> 01:03:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait for it. We got to get you

1153
01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:32.480
<v Speaker 1>on to talk about everything that happened after and so

1154
01:03:32.599 --> 01:03:33.440
<v Speaker 1>much more beyond that.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were down, yeah, I am totally down. Anything

1156
01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:41.480
<v Speaker 2>you need or want, you always got my support and

1157
01:03:41.960 --> 01:03:45.679
<v Speaker 2>I love doing this with you. And so yeah, this

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01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:47.119
<v Speaker 2>is great, This is great.

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01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, any any thoughts before we I just talked to

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<v Speaker 1>a freaking ninja.

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01:03:51.719 --> 01:03:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding me? That was You've got to live

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01:03:56.400 --> 01:03:57.000
<v Speaker 2>to tell to tell?

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01:03:57.480 --> 01:04:07.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank god, I was. I was very worried. Man,

1164
01:04:07.800 --> 01:04:12.360
<v Speaker 1>you made out. Yeah, you're the man, Hakim. Let's uh,

1165
01:04:12.440 --> 01:04:15.440
<v Speaker 1>let's plug all of your relevant things. I know off

1166
01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:18.079
<v Speaker 1>camera when we were just like joining the room here

1167
01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:20.320
<v Speaker 1>that we had talked about your channels. Let's get those

1168
01:04:20.360 --> 01:04:22.840
<v Speaker 1>out there so that people can follow along. And I

1169
01:04:22.920 --> 01:04:24.000
<v Speaker 1>just I want people to follow.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude.

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01:04:24.280 --> 01:04:27.719
<v Speaker 1>You're just so cool, man, I really mean that, and

1172
01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:30.960
<v Speaker 1>and I want you to be out there more so

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01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:33.159
<v Speaker 1>the least I can do is try to send people

1174
01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:35.119
<v Speaker 1>your way, you know. So let's plug all of your

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01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:37.199
<v Speaker 1>relevant channels that you wish people would follow.

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01:04:38.239 --> 01:04:43.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so Haikim dash Isler dot com so h A

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<v Speaker 2>k I M. Dash Isler I s L e r

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01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:52.599
<v Speaker 2>dot Com is one of them. And I'm working on

1179
01:04:52.679 --> 01:04:56.079
<v Speaker 2>a new one called Greater Potentials dot Com that's not

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01:04:56.159 --> 01:04:58.360
<v Speaker 2>out yet. It will be probably in two weeks so

1181
01:04:58.400 --> 01:05:00.880
<v Speaker 2>maybe by the time this thing comes out. And of

1182
01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:03.800
<v Speaker 2>course the biggest one, which is the most important right

1183
01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:10.280
<v Speaker 2>now is SAIA Games International dot Com so PSI Games

1184
01:05:10.320 --> 01:05:14.360
<v Speaker 2>International dot Com. That is the biggest one. That is

1185
01:05:14.400 --> 01:05:18.000
<v Speaker 2>the one that we're using to change the world and

1186
01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:21.920
<v Speaker 2>really bring even more light to this world with the

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01:05:22.320 --> 01:05:25.320
<v Speaker 2>amazing light bringers that we have that are that are

1188
01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:27.119
<v Speaker 2>coming so like yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you, man. I'm truly like it's an honor

1190
01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:34.079
<v Speaker 1>that you asked me to be involved. I literally was like, sold,

1191
01:05:34.280 --> 01:05:37.199
<v Speaker 1>let's do it. You know, I just can't wait, man,

1192
01:05:37.320 --> 01:05:41.199
<v Speaker 1>because if anything, it's gonna just be the just the

1193
01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:45.400
<v Speaker 1>coolest hang with so many all stars in this space,

1194
01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:49.119
<v Speaker 1>and then not only that but learning the games, you know,

1195
01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:51.840
<v Speaker 1>actually watching the games. I'm so excited about that. It's

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01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:54.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna be awesome, dude. And also now I know I'm

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<v Speaker 1>about to see you in Wisconsin, so I'm very much

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01:05:57.199 --> 01:05:59.599
<v Speaker 1>look forward to seeing you there. We're definitely gonna hang

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01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:04.199
<v Speaker 1>We're I mean, count me in you dude, I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>So thanks for.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be hanging. I'll be hanging with your dad this

1202
01:06:07.360 --> 01:06:12.360
<v Speaker 2>uh uh starting this Wednesday. For what. He's got something

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01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:16.079
<v Speaker 2>going on. You know, you'll find out about it. He's

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01:06:16.119 --> 01:06:20.400
<v Speaker 2>got he's got Obergon so he'll.

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01:06:20.519 --> 01:06:30.559
<v Speaker 1>Well I'm learning this now. Yeah. Just for example, when

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01:06:30.639 --> 01:06:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Chris Ramsey came to uh uh to do the area

1207
01:06:34.760 --> 01:06:36.159
<v Speaker 1>fifty two things in our house and hang out and

1208
01:06:36.159 --> 01:06:38.280
<v Speaker 1>then he did our podcast, we texted a hakeem and

1209
01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:42.480
<v Speaker 1>it was like he was there. Just he's everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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01:06:42.719 --> 01:06:45.960
<v Speaker 1>You are truly, you are truly uh a ninja. So

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01:06:46.119 --> 01:06:48.840
<v Speaker 1>thank you for joining our show. We definitely will have

1213
01:06:48.880 --> 01:06:51.159
<v Speaker 1>to do a part two after the side games. Will

1214
01:06:51.159 --> 01:06:54.519
<v Speaker 1>have so much to talk about. And you know, you're

1215
01:06:54.559 --> 01:06:56.920
<v Speaker 1>the man. You're awesome. I'm also in full support of you.

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01:06:57.079 --> 01:07:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad we're friends. I'm glad we're brothers from other mothers,

1217
01:07:01.039 --> 01:07:04.800
<v Speaker 1>and you know, thanks for doing this once again, and

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01:07:05.159 --> 01:07:07.800
<v Speaker 1>please say this with us. Bye guys, all.

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01:07:07.639 --> 01:07:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Those bye guys.

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<v Speaker 1>What ut bmies. If you like the show and want more,

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01:07:14.639 --> 01:07:17.320
<v Speaker 1>check out Patreon dot com slash bledsosaid so.

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01:07:17.719 --> 01:07:20.639
<v Speaker 5>This will get you exclusive weekly bonus shows and access

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01:07:20.679 --> 01:07:23.679
<v Speaker 5>to our discord community with hundreds of open minded people

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01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:24.320
<v Speaker 5>just like you.

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01:07:27.679 --> 01:07:30.880
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<v Speaker 5>same time next week