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Speaker 1: I get out, Illuminati confirmed.

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Speaker 2: You have been confirmed that Illuminati music industry Illuminati confirmed.

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Speaker 3: How about this? I want to join Illuminati, call us

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I trust the media.

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Speaker 2: Illuminati confirmed. Which has been nice because I could read

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Finnegan's Wake a bunch of nonsense, and then The Name

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of the Rose, which is actually a great book that

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I've enjoyed reading, and at this point in time they

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are speculating, or at this point in my reading of

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the book, there are two monks who come to this

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abbey where a monk has been murdered, and the monk

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is kind of like the Colombo of his day. I

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guess he's sort of, you know, not really playing his

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car his cards too heavily, is keeping his cards close

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to his chest and gathering as much information as he

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can at this point of the book. But there's been

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a couple of things that have come up that I

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think are really interesting and connect to what we talk

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about here, and then also demonstrate that the author umberto

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Echo clearly had some pretty high level knowledge that he

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is putting into his book. The Name of the Rose,

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which I thought, you know, the Rose obviously is going

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to have some kind of occult situation symbolism going on.

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But they were talking about the various poisons that the

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abby's the monk. There's a monk that specialized I forget

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what they call it. It's like toxic it's not toxicology,

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but they have some kind of Latin name for what

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he does, apothecary or something like that. And they're talking

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to him about different esoteric herbs that can be combined

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and potentially cause somebody to hallucinate snakes. And then it

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was interesting because there's like distinctions. It was like this

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plant makes you hallucinate snakes, this plant makes you hallucinate birds,

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this plant, you know, like they're getting very specific about

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what each plant could do. And he wouldn't tell the

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priests which plant was which because he was like, that's

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only for you know, an adept to know. Otherwise people

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could misuse this and poison people. But yeah, that's It's

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kind of where I've been recently, just reading and then

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just working on the podcast. How about you, dude.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on chapter two of that particular book, and

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nothing crazy as has happened really so far, and but

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I was kind of following along. I'm halfway through chapter two,

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but unvierto echo. He he's written a lot of like,

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uh is it folk called Pendulum I think is the

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name of the other book. Yeah, he goes he goes

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deep into like the Homunculus and everything. Bro, this dude

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was like deep into the esoteric. And not only that,

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but I'm going to share my screen here, but the monks, Dude,

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there's this book by this scholar, Sophie Page. I'm going

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to share my screen here by Sophie Page that she

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focuses called Magic and the Cloister, and it's about the

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history of monks and their interest in a lot of

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the occult. Bro. Like they had the Librevak, they had

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a lot of different books that the liber A being

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about the artificial creation of life. And yeah, bro, the

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monks were hardcore into this stuff. But at the end

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of the day, it was all about Christian magic, right,

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so they didn't right here, So, during the late thirteenth

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and early fourteenth centuries, which is when this book they

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were talking about takes place, a group of monks with

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a cult interest donated what became a remarkable collection of

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more than thirty magic texts to the library of the

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Benedict Abbey of Saint Augustine's in Canterbury. Analysis of their

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manuscripts in the monastic environment in which they lived suggests

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that they were a coherent group with shared aims and interests,

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whose the cult studies were stimulated by their religious vocation

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and protected by the relatively enclosed environment of the abbey.

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There is evidence that magic was practiced in order to

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meet the communal needs of the abbey and the relative

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protection from scrutiny there also existed in other monasteries in

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medieval England. So thisicular books, she goes in bro amongst

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at Saint Augustine's collective magic text that provided positive justifications

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for the practice of magic. And there were the name

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and they were the name donors and in some cases

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compliers of books in which works of magic were copied

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side by side with the works of more illicit genres.

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on like medicine. How you're talking about, like toxicology, And

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like herbology or some toxico Maybe maybe toxicology, right would

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be the study of poisons.

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Speaker 2: I think it was herbology. It might have just been

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herbology and erbologists. But yeah, that's interesting because they're taking

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the approach that that was uncommon for the church. But

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that these churches were actually practicing this stuff seecretly and

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felt like they had some sort of elected privilege to

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do so because they were more just than others, even

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though that doesn't seem to be the case we study history.

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Speaker 3: If you look at the Goaisha, for example, and I

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keep bringing up the pseudo monarchiam them on them that

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the whole premise of being able to even though it

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was a work of satire, by the way, the whole

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premise of the book was you're supposed to invoke God,

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and when you summon these demons, the Goaisha, they're supposed

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to do your bidding, the bidding of God. So technically

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you're not worshiping the demons. You are invoking the name

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of God to control them to do what you want

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them to do. Now, that can get lost in translation,

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because obviously any work with the demons is no bueno

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when it comes to the eyes of the church, right,

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But technically that's what it is. You're not worshiping the demons,

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You're controlling them to do God's bidding. That's the way

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it's put. Now, that's very convenient. Right, Hey, I'm gonna

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work with demons in the name of God and then

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you're right, you're protected.

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Speaker 2: It sounds a lot like what the people who founded

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New Haven and my research belief, like they were the

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elected elites and they could kind of because God chose them,

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they could kind of break the rules and sin and

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it would all be forgiven.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So right here, the monks at Saint Augustine chose

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to view their magic texts as compatible with their religious vocation,

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but they were nonetheless have been, but they would nonetheless

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have been aware of the text classification as magic and

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the condemnation of many of the practices they described. His

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study is to explore how these educated members of religious

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orders sought to fit magic texts into their belief system

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and worldview. For example, they did not believe that their

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vocation protected them from harm or oprium when they acquired, read,

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or practiced from magic texts. Did they think that magical

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techniques could be employed for pious ends, combined with orthodox rituals,

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or used to gain knowledge of the cosmos or induced

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visions of spirits learn magic texts in Medieval Europe or

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syncretic and were often exotic fusions of magical, philosophical, and

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cosmological elements from the Greco, Roman, Arabic and Jewish traditions,

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mediated through their translation into landin adapted by Christian authors.

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So as a consequence, they often acquired a looselessness and

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ambiguity in their rationales, mythologies, and cosmological foundations. Hey, we

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make it fit because we're Hey, we're studying this stuff. Man,

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we're just reading because we're curious. But you don't think

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that if they were to have acquired some power. Let's

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say that magic is real and that you can't acquire

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powers from it, you don't think that they use that

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to their benefit.

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Speaker 2: Hey, oh, absolutely, you.

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Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying, Like power, what's that one saying?

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Power corrupts absolutely or something or other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, knowledge is power, absolute power corrupts, or power

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corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I think it's the

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it's the full phrase. But yeah, knowledge is power and uh,

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and this this is the thing. It's like this blurry

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line between oh, we're protecting you from the information that

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you are not uh careful enough to handle, right, We

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can't you can't be trusted to use this information responsibly.

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So we're gonna protect it. We're going to choose who

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gets to protect it with us throughout time, and we're

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going to carry this information on. That's the sympathetic interpretation

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that it seems like this author is taking, where she's like, oh, yeah,

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the church was very right wing and very bad and

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very evil, and then these really left thinking, forward thinking

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people sort of got the bravery to come forward and

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explore the occult within the safety of this place, which

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may be the truth, Like this place might have been

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unique in perspective to the churches immediately next to it,

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is that the families that had sway aligned with the

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Church in order to protect themselves from, you know, any

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sort of negative consequences from practicing this stuff, and then

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found out, oh, wow, you guys are practicing this stuff too,

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like the elites the church. Yeah, exactly, It's like the

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Vatican priests and their cabal and then the elites and

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their cabal. Yeah, they kind of like dude, an enemy

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of my enemy is a friend, right.

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Speaker 2: I just talked to this guy, Johnny Cerrucci, who wrote

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this book called Romans of Mass Destruction, and he gets

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into how the Vatican Church and the Catholic Church have

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enabled monstrous, serious serial killers, almost called them serious killers.

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Nuns or No, let's see so okay, So Duke Jean

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and Jean del Malistrait, Bishop of Nance, brought guy to

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the stake. The church had to lead because the civil

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power dared not risk arousing the susceptibilities of the whole Okay,

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so they basically allowed this guy. Have you ever heard

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of Bluebeard the Pirate? I don't know if this is

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Bluebeard the Pirate. There might be two Bluebeards. Let's look

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him up. Type in blue Beard and see if Guy

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de de Ross comes up.

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Speaker 3: French folk tale the most famous surviving the most famous

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surviving version of what was written of Charles Parrau in

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the first published by Arvina and Paris. The tale tells

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the story of a wealthy man in the habit of

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murdering his wives and the attempts of the present one

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to avoid the fate of her predecessors.

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Speaker 2: Well look at look at who the folk tale is

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based on though, because they say it's based on this

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guy named Guy, but it's not spelled Guy, spelled g.

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Speaker 3: I Yeah, yeah, this is the guy that was doing

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the murdered all those children.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure the names pronounced guy, even though it

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looks like it would be pronounced guilty. But yeah, well

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maybe in Spanish, but in French that's French guidless.

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Speaker 3: He was French. Well, he was in the French Army

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with the Joan of Arc.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know, I get, but I've heard him

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called Guy. I don't know. Maybe that's a nickname for

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someone with the name. But either way, this guy was

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the basis for the Bluebeard folk tale. But he was

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a real dude that was just yeah, killing all these people.

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keep it under wraps anymore, so they brought him to

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Speaker 3: WHOA, So he's saying that the church helped create Sarah essentially, Yeah,

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so like some mk ultra stuff.

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Speaker 2: Well, and and you know, it seems like they were

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they were kind of not only facilitating it but helping

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these people or they were sort of accomplices until it

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couldn't couldn't be hidden anymore, and then they would, yeah,

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turn on them and put them at the stake and

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claim like they had no connection to them.

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Speaker 3: So but what would the purpose be for that though?

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Why would they do that?

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Speaker 2: Because they're because they're trying to commit these occult crimes.

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They they're they're doing rituals. They need a scapegoat. They

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need you know, a bunch of people are going to

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start getting murdered. It's only a matter of time, especially

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in a maybe in the Middle Ages, when it's a

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more isolated sociological landscape. You know, it's only a matter

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of time before people start to catch on. So you

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need a scapegoat. So if the church wants blood for

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whatever reason, occult ritual or they want to murder somebody,

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they want a sacrificial person, they need an escapegoat to

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blame it on. When the you know, the village comes

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for the killer's head with the pitchfork and torches. You know,

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it's the classic. It's a classic thing with Frankenstein where

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they create the monster, but the monster was their friend

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Speaker 3: Well, it's funny because I just did an episode on

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with Larry Hancock, who he has written about JFK for

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over thirty five years, and he just recently put out

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a book about Lee Harvey Oswald right, speaking of plants

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and potentially the CIA or FBI or whoever, the NSA,

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whoever it was that planted this whole conspiracy because the honestly,

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don't know a lot about the JFK. But it's a

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deep rabbit hole, bro, Like there's so many connections and

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there's so many players in the whole thing. It's easy,

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no wonder it's a conspiracy, dude, it goes way deep.

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And the fact that we still don't know till this day,

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Like they just use this guy's escape going guess what

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he got off too?

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Speaker 2: You know about the JD. Tibbitt body, No, who's that?

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So around Dallas there was a police officer that everybody

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said looked like John F. Kennedy. They said, you know,

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you bear a striking resemblance to JFK, right, which he

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kind of does. Like his picture maybe not perfect, but

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at least his eyes he has kind of a similar

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eyes and mouth as Kennedy. Kennedy had a much more

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distinct face. But either way, the theory is that JD.

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Tibbett was shot by which he was, that's not theorized,

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but the theory is the reason why he was shot

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on the same day as John F. Kennedy was because

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they had used his body as a sort of stand

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in to basically throw people off. So what was the

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big theory? Back into the left, right, The bullet came

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at him from the front and JFK's head went back

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into the left, is what they would say up until

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the Zapruter film, which proved that JFK's head did in

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fact not go back into the left, and that it

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doesn't make sense that Lee Harvey's Lee Harvey Oswald from

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that position would have fired that shot. So it brought

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the whole thing into question. But before the footage came out,

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the cover story was that JFK got shot in the head,

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which is not the case when you look at the

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Zapruter film. So they needed a body a stand in

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for the autopsy, so they killed this man, shot him

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in the face at like a traffic stop. He pulled

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over somebody who was somebody reported a crime. JD came,

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you know, reported on the scene, and he was shot

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in the head, shot in the face and in the

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chest too, and then his body was used in the autopsy. Allegedly,

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people say that his body was sort of yeah, stand

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in to cover up the fact that JFK was shot

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from the angle that he was actually shot at, right,

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and confused as to what really happened. When you know,

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now with all the information that's come out, it's pretty

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obvious there was more than one shooter, or the shooter

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was firing from an angle that could not have possibly

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been Lee Harvey Oswald in the position that the warrant

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report talks about.

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Speaker 3: So hold on, I've never heard about it. So apparently

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Lee Harvey Oswald was charged with this and then with

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the with the JFK stuff.

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Speaker 2: Right, they they tried to pin it all on him.

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Speaker 3: Bro what that's wild?

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Speaker 2: And that's what the official record still says. It says

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that that he look it says it right there by

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Lee Harvey Oswald, which makes no sense that Lee Harvey Oswald.

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I think I forget the guy's name, but I had

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him on my podcast. Matt Crumpton. He did a pretty

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good job of breaking down how it would have been

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impossible for Lee Harvey Oswald to have killed both JD.

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Tibbett and JFK. And it could be that Lee Harvey

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Oswald just killed JD. Tibbitt, you know, like maybe Lee

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Harvey Oswald actually killed JD. Tibbitt and then or Tippitt

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and and that's why they you know, that's why they

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had him as the pats. He could he was involved,

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but not technically involved in the actual crime. But that's

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funny Twilight language. Tip it, tip it off, tip of

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the hat, tip of the head, right, tip it. That's

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an interesting This is a tip off that the Twilight

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language is coming through with JD. Tippett's Tippitt's name tippit.

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Speaker 3: So as Oswald was killed before he was tried for

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either crime, President Lyndon B. Johnson commission a committee of

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US Senators, congressman, an elder statesman to investigate the events

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surrounding the death of Kennedy, Tippitt, and Oswald. In an

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effort to answer questions regarding the events, President Johnson also

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hoped to quell rumors that arose after Oswald was shot

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by Ruby that the assassination and subsequent shootings were part

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of a conspiracy.

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Speaker 2: The committee obviously we know now it was all one

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big conspiracy, right, And the fact that the Warren Commission

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is eight hundred and eighty eight pages, I mean, what

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the hell is that supposed to me?

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Speaker 3: I had no idea?

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Speaker 2: Which is the number six, by the way, because eight

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plus eight plus eight equals twenty four four and two

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plus four equals six. So gumatt GM Matt Trocke, you're

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getting me spinning, dude. You bring up the JFK thing,

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and I'm like, do you see what I mean? Part

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of my brain activates.

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Speaker 3: It goes so deep. I had zero clue about this

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until your brother was like, who the hell is this?

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And literally he was charged with that, and then Kennedy

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and then allegedly he went from one scene to the other.

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Speaker 2: Three people. It's like what people say about nine to

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eleven when you're like, hey, did you know that there

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were more than just two towers that fell that day?

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It's like, hey, did you know that there were three

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people that died on JFK's assassination in the immediate vicinity

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the day of JD. Tippett. Then JFK and then Lee

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Harvey Oswald where he supposedly killed the other two.

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Speaker 3: Is it where he looks like Kennedy? He kind of

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looks like Kennedy.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what I said at the beginning. The whole

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premise is that JD. Tippett was a look alike. So

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before JFK was assassinated, the talk around Dallas when it

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came to JD. D. Tibbitt was, Hey, this guy kind

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of looks like the president. Isn't that neat? You know?

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That was his nickname Jack because he had the same names.

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As they switch the body's brain, they switched the bodies because,

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like I was saying, you were reading. It's probably why

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you didn't hear me say this. But the gunshot comes

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in at a certain angle, right, they're saying it's coming

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in from the front. That's what they want everyone to believe.

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But obviously that's not what happened. So they needed a

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body double which had the same and you got what

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I'm saying. And if Learvy Oswald was the one who

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shot him, maybe that's part of it. Like maybe Leearvy

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Oswald didn't even know what was going on. Maybe he

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thought that he was helping stop the assassination of JFK.

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And that's why he shot JD. Tibbett, like he could

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have had bad info. And this cabal was like, hey,

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Lee Harvey, you know you're a patriot, we need you

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to save the president. Go and kill this dirty cop.

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You know, he's a part of the assassination plot. I mean,

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if you're Lee Harvey Oswald, you're a guy who's according

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to the officials record, he was super patriotic. He was

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a guy who went to Russia to be a spy.

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He wanted to learn how to be a spy, which

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he wasn't qualified for, so he I think he did

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some you know, clandestine work as a sort of lower

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tier clandestine operator. And these are the types of guys

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that become scapegoats because they're not you know, valuable assets.

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He was an asset. He was a loose asset, and

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he got patsyed scapegoatd as you know, the most famous

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assassin in American history almost, I mean next to maybe

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John Wilkes Booth, but equally you know, the two of

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them with the whole three three name thing too, John

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Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald. Uh did Mark David Chapman.

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Why is it always a three named person that takes

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a shot King? Well, who shot Martin Luther King on

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the official record? Because it was it wasn't Martin Luther

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King didn't june himself so.

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Speaker 3: Well, apparently he didn't even die from that. He died

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at the hospital allegedly where the family was able to

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sue the CIA or something and win.

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Speaker 2: Well, if he died in the hospital, then he died

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from the gunshots. You're saying that they killed him in

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the hospital, even though oh shit, you didn't hear about that.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: We're teaching that. We're teaching each other. Thing is this

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is why we got a podcast more.

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Speaker 3: MLK Junior suffocated, So apparently it goes he was alive

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in the hospital. And let's see here allegation. So MLK

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and your family sues.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't it like a black Israelite guy that shot Mark R.

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Martin Luther King? Like it was like a radical?

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Speaker 3: I don't, honestly, I don't know who who did?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Who shot Jeff K?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, James Earl Ray, So he wasn't a black guy,

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but yeah, James Earl Ray another three named person. Look

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at that, dude, it's never it's never a Dave Smith

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or like a John Doe, or it's always a three

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named person. I think that has something to do with

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like the mnemonics of Twilight language, where like you know

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it's the number three, but it's also like maybe more

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memorable then.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess everybody has three names if you

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have a middle name. But like, how often somebody in

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the news reported and they read their full name including

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their middle name, it's always assassins. They have either double

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last name or they read their middle name.

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Speaker 3: So this is Mandela effect where allegedly he was so

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he was fatally shot and then he was rushed where

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he was pronounced dead at seven oh five, and apparently

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the conspiracy goes that he was actually suffocated there and

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the family actually sued and won. Wow, I'm trying to

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obviously again I'm searching on Google. That's probably not gonna

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tell me you know, the whole thing. But have you

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seen the MLK blackmail letters? No?

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm familiar a little bit. I just haven't

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read them myself. I know that there's all sorts of

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stuff that MLK was into that he probably doesn't wouldn't

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want public right, which he was still alive.

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Speaker 3: That was one of the things that recently came out right,

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that they were doing parties and stuff, and he was

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very one day.

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Speaker 1: I have a dream that one day black women, black

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women and white women will be twerking together in my

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bedroom pretty much.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 3: Apparently the FBI King Sushi Side letter or blackmail package

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was an anonymous nineteen sixty four letter and package by

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the Federal Bureau of Investigation which was allegedly meant to

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blackmail doctor Martin Luther King Junior into committing sushi side Okay,

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and they wrote them a whole letter, bro, But here's

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what I don't understand, Like, if these people are so powerful, right,

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let's say that they are. Maybe they aren't worshiping the devil,

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but they're powerful, and we know that organized organized. I

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have to speak lightly if I put this on YouTube,

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because I just got pinged for this stuff, for praising

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certain organizations.

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Speaker 2: Do you see that in the first in the first sorry,

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in the first paragraph, they call him, they compare him

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to King Henry the Eighth.

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Speaker 3: Really, in your in view of your low grade abnormal

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personal behavior, I will not dignify your name with either

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a mister or reverend or doctor, and your last name

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calls to mind only a type of kings such as

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King Henry the Eighth and his countless acts of adultery

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and immoral conduct lore than that of a beast. What

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was that King Henry doing?

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Speaker 2: Huh? Well, King Henry the Eighth, I think was the

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one that was uh was the Catholic King of England

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after the Protestants and people really hated him. I think

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because he was he was like basically just your classic aristocrat,

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greedy pig type. But I think he has something to

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do with the Catholic Church versus the Protestant Church and

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their battle over England. A traumatic injury.

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Speaker 3: This kind of traumatic kind of falls in line what

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we were talking a little bit about earlier, where the

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Church was using these characters to kind of sort of

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make them into these killers, because right this is one

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of the major things, like look at the whole football

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the CTE stuff with Aaron Hernandez. I think it was

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where they kind of go crazy because of their quote

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unquote had their head, you know, trauma that they receive

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throughout their career. And some historians believe that the traumatic

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brain injury from jousting played a major role in his

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personality change. Did it you go what I'm you see

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what I'm getting at, Like it's like the narrative. He

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became very cruel, petty and tyrannical. He was forgetful and

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prone to rages and impulsive decisions. He was paranoid and

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had political misjudgments. He was self pitying and vainglorious. Never

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heard that before. He was vicious and motivated by self

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interest van glorious.

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Speaker 2: That's like when somebody's like obsessed with their own like

474
00:30:36,519 --> 00:30:39,839
or Trump could be considered like van glorious in a way,

475
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,640
like at least the way people detract, you know, they're

476
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,559
like they they think of themselves so highly, Like they're

477
00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:51,720
like they're like these glorious people. And I think that's

478
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:52,200
what it means.

479
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 3: Give me one second, ah, but look at this, but

480
00:30:55,519 --> 00:30:59,359
we have to throw out some modern concepts. Henry was

481
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,519
not the loos, you know, because he thought that God

482
00:31:01,599 --> 00:31:07,559
spoke to him directly. Interesting that again, it always goes

483
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:14,400
back to having some divinity. You're appointed by divinity. So

484
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,400
I'm saying I was saying Mark that he was not

485
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,920
delusional because he thought God spoke to him directly. He

486
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,640
believed himself to be appointed by God, to be king,

487
00:31:24,759 --> 00:31:27,920
to be guided by God and his decision decisions, and

488
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:33,640
be prompted by God and his desires. So again, what

489
00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:37,839
a better way than Hey, what if dude, for one second,

490
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,200
and I think I've heard this before, what if JFK's

491
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,440
head just did that? Is that a thing?

492
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,279
Speaker 2: It sounds like what John, Joe Rogan and Ian Carroll

493
00:31:51,319 --> 00:31:57,519
were just talking about on Jiri. Yeah, what do you

494
00:31:57,599 --> 00:32:00,720
mean though, Like, is it possible that the bullet hit

495
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:01,240
his head?

496
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: There wasn't a bullet, And I'm talking like directed energy

497
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,880
weapons like laser beam.

498
00:32:10,079 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: Have you seen the Zapruda footage recently? I don't want

499
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,440
to watch it right now, but have you ever seen it?

500
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,079
Speaker 3: The one where he's riding and then it happens.

501
00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:23,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the footage, yes, where it happens. You mean

502
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,759
where he gets killed. Yeah, it's very bloody, like when

503
00:32:26,759 --> 00:32:29,480
you look at it now, it's very bloody.

504
00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, your head, And it.

505
00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:37,039
Speaker 2: Would a laser cause you to have that kind of

506
00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:39,079
like impact.

507
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 3: If there's sodomy by directed energy weapon, you don't think

508
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,359
that there would be.

509
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:48,599
Speaker 2: Hold on, where is there? Where is their sodomy by

510
00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:54,200
energy weapon. Who's who's creating the direct energy butthole cannon?

511
00:32:54,519 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: No, I'm serious, bro, This is in uh how to

512
00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:06,400
create and illumine NADI mind controlled slave by uh what's

513
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:11,400
his what's his face? Uh? Fritz Springmyer. Fritz Springmeiyer talks

514
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:16,200
about sodomy by directed energy weapon in his book and

515
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,559
this is a book from the nineties, just like.

516
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: The gray alien probing type stuff or what are we

517
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,240
talking about here?

518
00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: Well, according to Fritz Springmyer, anyone who has an alien

519
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:39,079
abduction story was actually assaulted sexually by the government or

520
00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:42,480
some sort of governmental entity and they had false memories

521
00:33:42,519 --> 00:33:46,759
implanted in their head. What better story than the alien

522
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:48,400
people touched me down there?

523
00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: And because it's embarrassing and people won't want to admit it.

524
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,839
Speaker 3: No, who's gonna believe it? You go, what I'm saying, like,

525
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,759
who's gonna even believe? So the idea and a concept

526
00:34:02,759 --> 00:34:05,319
of one like a child is like, yeah, Mickey Mouse

527
00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:08,000
and Donald Duck were in my room last night and

528
00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:12,599
they did stuff. Sometimes that's an actual thing that happened

529
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,840
where it's so incredible it's unbelievable, and therefore, uh, these

530
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,880
agencies can pop off whatever they want to pop off

531
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:25,599
and stay under the guys. Oh crazy kids, Oh you know,

532
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,639
crazy person who thinks that they were abducted by aliens

533
00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:32,039
when in reality was a whole mk ultra thing done

534
00:34:32,079 --> 00:34:37,239
by these organizations to extract information or do something or

535
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,960
other to where you know, it's it's just an unbelievable case.

536
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:46,880
Because let's be honest, Mark, do you believe in aliens?

537
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 2: Without getting complicated?

538
00:34:54,039 --> 00:34:57,679
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, do you believe someone and I'm sure you've

539
00:34:57,679 --> 00:34:59,119
had them on your show who said that they have

540
00:34:59,199 --> 00:35:01,360
had an alien of dus do you believe those.

541
00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:06,039
Speaker 2: People thirty to forty percent at the.

542
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 3: Time, not saying that nothing happened to them. Maybe something

543
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,000
did happen to them. As to the extent of what happened,

544
00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:17,599
maybe they believed that that's what happened to them. So

545
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,400
the experience is still valid because now we're getting into

546
00:35:20,639 --> 00:35:26,639
phenomenology where they experience something real. Now, what I'm getting

547
00:35:26,639 --> 00:35:29,559
at is that maybe that was an implanted memory of

548
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:34,000
some sort, because let's be honest, we know PTSD is

549
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,360
the thing. We know memory works very weirdly. Consciousness well,

550
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,239
we don't even know what consciousness, but the human brain

551
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,880
and human anatomy is a very mysterious thing, and we

552
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,840
know it can be fractured to a certain extent. We

553
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,719
know this because the government has programs just for torturing

554
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,280
and how to survive torture, how to do all these things.

555
00:35:55,119 --> 00:35:57,960
So it's not too far fetched to say that you

556
00:35:58,119 --> 00:36:02,760
could hypothetically condition somebody to be, you know, like one

557
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:07,280
of these silent cell splinter cell whatever they call them,

558
00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:10,400
assassins if you will, right, that was the whole thing

559
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,440
with the assa Sines what they call them, the Secret

560
00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:17,480
Order of the Assassins, where they were made believe that

561
00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:20,239
they were in some other area and he was taking

562
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,440
all these young men and brainwashing them essentially, and they

563
00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:27,159
usually would start off with like some sort of religious

564
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,880
background of like hey, you know, like the Scientolic the

565
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,400
Mormons believe that you're gonna have your own planet for

566
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,480
every single one of your wives or whatever it is

567
00:36:35,519 --> 00:36:38,960
that they believe. And it's like, again, I'm using Mormonism

568
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,719
as a bad example, but let's look at one of

569
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:46,599
the more extreme or radical religions that quite literally do

570
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,280
sushi side bombings in the name of Allah, right, like,

571
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,559
in the name of God. They're doing this thing to

572
00:36:54,679 --> 00:36:56,719
try because they believe that on the other side they're

573
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,239
going to be promised what is seventy two virgins or

574
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,159
something like that, you know. So here, let me pull

575
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:10,079
up the Order of the Assassins story. So the Order

576
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:14,679
of the Assassins. Here we go. Sure you've heard of

577
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:19,599
this before. Order the Assassins are simply the Assassins was

578
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:24,360
a Nizari is mail order that existed between ten ninety

579
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:29,480
and twelve seventy five, founded by Hassan al Sabbath. During

580
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,199
that time, they lived on in the mountains of Persia

581
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,960
and the elevent and held a strict subterfuge policy through

582
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,360
the Middle East East, posing a substantial strategic threat to

583
00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:45,079
Fatimid Basid authority in killing several Christian leaders. Over the

584
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:47,280
course from the two hundred years, they killed hundreds who

585
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,360
were considered enemies. The modern term assassination is believed to

586
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:57,960
stem from the tactics used by the Assassins. Kanterporaneous how

587
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,719
do you say that word, bro, Well, you almost.

588
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: Got it there. Let me just correct you on the

589
00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:11,599
first one you got wrong. It's levant. It's the levant.

590
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,760
It's pretty pretty common thing that people say. And then

591
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:23,199
contemporaneous history, which means people who were alive during that time.

592
00:38:23,639 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 3: Okay, so let's let's look at the brainwashing activities that

593
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,119
we're going on here, because.

594
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: Well, you know this is all in the video game

595
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,480
Assassin's Creed, right, Yes, that I have.

596
00:38:35,679 --> 00:38:39,199
Speaker 3: And then I love the concept of being able to

597
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,440
go back in time through the use of DNA. That's

598
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,679
such a cool concept to me, Like to be able

599
00:38:44,679 --> 00:38:45,440
to go back into that.

600
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:50,159
Speaker 2: Well, that whole subtext is like the most interesting because

601
00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:54,280
I feel like they have they're like whistleblowing something that

602
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,239
DARPA has with that video game. But if you play

603
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,639
that game, at least the first three or four versions

604
00:39:02,679 --> 00:39:07,119
of it, that you're literally shown the whole Secret Society

605
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,360
history and they kind of start at the order of

606
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,679
the Assassins, but they do take it like the real

607
00:39:14,639 --> 00:39:18,840
crescendo of the game is learning about the Golden Apple.

608
00:39:19,679 --> 00:39:23,119
The Apple and the Garden of Eden is in the game,

609
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,440
this Golden Apple, which is actually some sort of technology

610
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:31,679
that creates realities, right, and that's what these futuristic factions

611
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:36,559
are fighting over. And each futuristic faction has its ancient

612
00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:39,840
connection to either the Assassins or the Templar. So I

613
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,559
love those video games because they teach you all about

614
00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:43,719
this shit right here.

615
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,559
Speaker 3: They would also, and this was a crucial factor, need

616
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:51,039
to be readily willing to die if necessary. The methods

617
00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:55,239
Hassan and later grand Masters of the Order, who were

618
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,960
all referred to as Old the Old Man of the

619
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:03,119
Mountain used to inspire some such fanatical devotion have been

620
00:40:03,199 --> 00:40:07,159
lost to the midst of history. Marco Polo, who supposedly

621
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:14,239
visit Alamute Castle, claimed that it was through a brainwashing process.

622
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,400
According to Polo, young men, often orphans, obtained for the

623
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,400
specific purpose of becoming assassins, would be heavily drugged and

624
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,920
taking to a lush garden full of beautiful women and

625
00:40:26,159 --> 00:40:30,280
told that it was the paradise they would inhabit after

626
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,199
death if they served faithfully. Of course, there was no

627
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,119
evidence that this was actually done, but neither is any

628
00:40:36,159 --> 00:40:42,280
evidence to suggest that these methods were not used. Bro

629
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,400
that is so wide. Think about this, right, this is

630
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,679
this is not too far fetched. This idea here, that's

631
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,880
not far Now. You tell me that they had some

632
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,320
ascended master come from from another dimension and tell them like, hey,

633
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,119
you need to do this because you will be rewarded

634
00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:06,480
handsomely okay, but we know we were talking about toxicology

635
00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:09,599
and things right earlier. We know that's a thing. We

636
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:14,000
know these orders probably use concoctions if there are assassins.

637
00:41:14,079 --> 00:41:19,920
That's the whole premise behind assassins, like hey, let's poison

638
00:41:20,159 --> 00:41:22,559
you know this political figure or something like that. And again,

639
00:41:22,559 --> 00:41:26,760
I don't condone the activities of any organizations that want

640
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,400
to do this, just to be clear, so I don't

641
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:35,239
get pinged again on YouTube. And I am permanently demonetized,

642
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,000
by the way, so.

643
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,559
Speaker 2: I won't ever been.

644
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 3: Last week from what from a thirteen second clip.

645
00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 2: On YouTube shorts, Yes, what was it?

646
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 3: It showed U it's a media modio. That guy that

647
00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:58,719
did the whole CEO stuff, his Mario's brother, that guy

648
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,239
in handcuffs being walked by the Feds. And they said

649
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:08,199
that I was praising those organizations the word T write

650
00:42:08,199 --> 00:42:10,360
the letter T starts of the letter T, that I

651
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,639
was praising that activity, and that I was supporting director

652
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,079
in a thirteen second clip that I said nothing in

653
00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:17,000
and it was just the meme.

654
00:42:18,599 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 2: Is there a reason why his brother got arrested.

655
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,559
Speaker 3: He did the whole CEO thing.

656
00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 2: Bro, Well, I know that, but you're saying that is

657
00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:32,599
Luigi's brothers getting arrested.

658
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,199
Speaker 3: Mario Ari Okay.

659
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's me Mario. Yeah all right, I got you now, okay,

660
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:46,079
yeah all right? Yeah, well that sucks. YouTube sucks. This

661
00:42:46,159 --> 00:42:47,760
isn't gonna go on YouTube, is it.

662
00:42:49,159 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 3: I'll probably censor it. If anyone wants to listen to

663
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,239
this uncensored, sign up for the Patreon ad free all

664
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,679
that stuff, right, Patreon dot com slash the one one

665
00:42:57,679 --> 00:43:00,599
podcast and Patreon dot com slash My Family.

666
00:43:00,519 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: M ft C. Yeah, well it's mft I see because

667
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,960
you can't do the whole twenty one characters so long.

668
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:10,800
You know, the one on one podcast. You know, you

669
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,400
know what it's like. You have a long podcast name too,

670
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,239
but it's.

671
00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 3: Been too long. I've already linked it so many times.

672
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,039
I just got to leave it on there because you know,

673
00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:23,320
it's been three or four years now. But yeah, if

674
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,400
people want to listen to this uncensored, they know where

675
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,239
to go. They know where to go. Okay, it'll be

676
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,760
censored for the YouTube because they know where to go.

677
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,039
Speaker 2: They ping me, bro, So what are we getting at here?

678
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,960
Is this is ancient mind control? But I feel like

679
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,079
Marco Polo, you know, he's kind of somebody that we

680
00:43:43,079 --> 00:43:47,199
should be suspicious of too, because he's connected to these

681
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,239
Italian nobles and all them, and they probably knew about

682
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,559
all this stuff, just as well as the mister e

683
00:43:54,760 --> 00:44:00,199
s Albasani or whoever the head assassin Hashisheen guy, which

684
00:44:00,199 --> 00:44:03,440
apparently they were using cannabis as one of their major

685
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,880
lures to get people. But I feel like that's kind

686
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,079
of like, I don't know, maybe that would work in

687
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:15,519
that time period if you had like less cultural stimulus,

688
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,239
but I don't even think that tracks. So I don't know.

689
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,559
I have a hard as somebody who smokes weed all

690
00:44:20,599 --> 00:44:24,159
the time, I have a hard time believing that, you know,

691
00:44:24,199 --> 00:44:26,519
they oh, they're just gonna get you hooked on weed

692
00:44:26,559 --> 00:44:28,039
and then all of a sudden you go and kill

693
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,519
people for them, Like weed makes you super sensitive. You

694
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,920
smoke weed, you're not gonna want to kill anybody like

695
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,039
you're you know, unless you're like some kind of crazy already,

696
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,840
like the type of person who's got some kind of issue.

697
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,800
Maybe weed could you know, make that more severe? Yeah,

698
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:51,159
aggravate it. But I think overall, cannabis kind of mellows

699
00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:53,599
you out. I have a hard time believing like that

700
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:57,079
would work maybe like heroin, because you get so addicted

701
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,840
that you'll do anything for it. And if you've never

702
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:03,480
had access to these plants other than in this cult,

703
00:45:03,519 --> 00:45:07,199
then you know, I guess you're their slave at that point.

704
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,159
But so it makes more sense to me that it

705
00:45:09,199 --> 00:45:12,039
would be like poppy. But even then, like they didn't

706
00:45:12,119 --> 00:45:17,880
have the ability to shoot it now. But that's the

707
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,599
thing though, It's like I'm saying hash it's the same

708
00:45:20,599 --> 00:45:21,639
thing as cannabis.

709
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 3: Isn't you smoke it is a more concentrated form of it.

710
00:45:25,079 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's just gonna make you more of a

711
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,760
sap and you're lazy too when you smoke weed, like

712
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,800
weed for most people makes you tired, sleepy, you know.

713
00:45:36,039 --> 00:45:38,800
So it just doesn't make sense to me unless that's

714
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,039
unless that was just like a privilege, like oh yeah,

715
00:45:42,119 --> 00:45:45,920
you'll get to relax and get high. If you you

716
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,760
ever want to feel that way again, you got to

717
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,400
go kill somebody maybe, But I feel like that's more

718
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,960
the case with like poppy, Like you'd get addicted from

719
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,480
smoking the poppy and you want more of it.

720
00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:03,639
Speaker 3: It Either way, It's interesting, right, the concept of how

721
00:46:03,679 --> 00:46:07,639
I was mentioning being able to fracture someone's mind and

722
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,679
be able to make them do things. Like think of

723
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,679
a good salesman, right, everyone has experienced this to where

724
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:19,000
they're able to not make you, but influence you enough

725
00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:21,719
to buy this new car or buy whatever it is. Like,

726
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,239
I am not a good salesman, Like, I cannot think that.

727
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,320
Usually what ends up happening with me is I end

728
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,119
up saying too much and I end up just like

729
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,119
messing the sale up, you know what I'm saying. Like

730
00:46:33,039 --> 00:46:38,840
that's but there's some people, Yeah, I say too much.

731
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,000
I just talk too much, and I just end up

732
00:46:41,039 --> 00:46:43,880
messing up the sale. Right. But again, I find it

733
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,800
super interesting that people can be there's you know, there's

734
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,719
NLP and things like that where people can be influenced. Now,

735
00:46:50,039 --> 00:46:52,199
you know, the whole thing with Oswald and these guys,

736
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:58,320
even the the Reagan attempt was the whole catcher in

737
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,079
the Rye situation, right, and that whole thing to where

738
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,679
there's a secret code within this book that triggers people

739
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,039
and it makes them want to, you know, become this

740
00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:11,480
manchein candidate sort of thing. And it's like, I believe

741
00:47:11,559 --> 00:47:14,159
words are that powerful, dude, Because again going back to

742
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:17,440
this salesman concept, even though he's not influencing you to

743
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:22,159
do anything crazy. But let's take the resources that these

744
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:26,719
organizations have into consideration, and what if they do. What

745
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,039
if it is like a clockwork orange or something where

746
00:47:29,039 --> 00:47:31,559
they put you in front of the screen, hold your

747
00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:34,960
eyelids open, and they make you watch all these movies

748
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,559
and stuff like that. Think about that in the in

749
00:47:38,599 --> 00:47:40,800
the modern day. You know, we're talking about Assassin's Creed,

750
00:47:41,559 --> 00:47:43,360
you know, video games like Call of Duty and all

751
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,639
these like Grant Theft Thottle. All I would do is

752
00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:51,159
go around killing people, bro, That's what I found fun

753
00:47:51,199 --> 00:47:51,880
in those games.

754
00:47:53,199 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 2: Think, well, what do you think's gonna happen when the

755
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,519
next one comes out and it's even more realistic than ever?

756
00:47:59,679 --> 00:48:06,639
You know? Yeah, well, I think what if it's the inverse,

757
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,360
you know, not that what you're saying doesn't happen. Yeah,

758
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,800
that happens. But what if the opposite happens, where they

759
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,400
put the book out there and most people read it

760
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,679
and they're like, whatever, this is high flute nonsense. I'm

761
00:48:19,679 --> 00:48:22,440
not a literary critic, I don't get it or whatever.

762
00:48:23,199 --> 00:48:26,239
But then that like five percent of people who have

763
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:31,519
whatever archetype they're looking for is like they're like activated

764
00:48:31,639 --> 00:48:34,840
some way by reading the book, and then they have

765
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,719
some network through which they can kind of figure out

766
00:48:39,199 --> 00:48:44,599
who has been subtly implanted. But it just it seems

767
00:48:44,639 --> 00:48:47,639
like that's more realistic nowadays, where they can track everything

768
00:48:47,679 --> 00:48:51,280
with social media. Have a hard time believing that, you know,

769
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,119
they could just publish a book, make everyone in public

770
00:48:54,159 --> 00:48:58,159
schools read it and then find the well, you know,

771
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,639
handful of crazies that but I guess it's happened. We

772
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,079
remember David Chapman and all those and the other couple

773
00:49:05,079 --> 00:49:07,920
of people who have used the catcher in their eye

774
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,039
as a calling card.

775
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,159
Speaker 3: You remember the whole gifted Did you have gifted in

776
00:49:12,199 --> 00:49:12,719
your school?

777
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

778
00:49:14,519 --> 00:49:18,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what that is. It's a recruiting program. Bro,

779
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,719
Like they they have certain kids that are above the

780
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,960
level and need to be challenged more. And bro, that's

781
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:29,760
stranger things. That's a what's that one movie Akira, you know,

782
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,239
where where they have these group of children and then

783
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,679
somewhere in an underground bunker they're teaching them how to

784
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,760
do telekinesis and all this stuff, you know, for a

785
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,239
secret government organization. And then they end up making like

786
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,679
some sort of god that's able to transcend time and

787
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,840
space and able to destroy realities and stuff like that.

788
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:52,719
I mean, dude, I think that when it comes to

789
00:49:53,039 --> 00:49:55,800
like the whole nuclear weapons and atomic bombs, I think

790
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,639
that's what that is. I think that that was some

791
00:49:59,679 --> 00:50:02,280
sort of of technology. Like if you look at the paintings.

792
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,320
I've talked about this before, we look at the paintings

793
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:08,320
of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki survivors, Bro, they were in

794
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:13,159
another dimension. Dog, I'm gonna show you the screenshots here

795
00:50:13,199 --> 00:50:20,840
of the paintings from the survivors. Paintings from survivors of

796
00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:27,079
hero Shima and Nagasaki. What up my Nagas? Here you go,

797
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:32,440
so the people's record of hero Shima. Check out these paintings, Bro.

798
00:50:32,679 --> 00:50:37,239
These paintings are wild, and I think that these people

799
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:41,639
were put into another reality and that's what they experienced.

800
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:47,360
So check this out. This is from nineteen forty five, right.

801
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,719
So there's people drinking this black stuff. There's something raining.

802
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:56,119
Everyone's skin is falling off. So people drinking black rain.

803
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,360
When the black rain fell, thirsty people drank it unaware

804
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,119
of its radio activity. And this is one of the

805
00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:04,920
survivors from that. So if you if you keep going here,

806
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,440
we find another one that's super creepy. Check this out.

807
00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:12,159
Look at that flash. On an instant, I saw a

808
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,519
light like a rainbow. This is what this person is recalling.

809
00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:18,039
Look at that. That's a that's a portal.

810
00:51:18,119 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: Dude.

811
00:51:19,199 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 3: You know they opened up like and again we're talking

812
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,639
about video games Doom. You ever seen Doom?

813
00:51:24,679 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 2: Bro?

814
00:51:25,559 --> 00:51:27,519
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Like you ever what happens

815
00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:28,119
in Doom?

816
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: Uh?

817
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 3: They open up a portal to Hell and all the

818
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:37,079
demons radar reality right like this, This is what this

819
00:51:37,159 --> 00:51:42,239
person painted, bro, from what they saw like red devils.

820
00:51:42,679 --> 00:51:45,280
Three days later, the burned bodies and the fire cistern

821
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:52,559
had turned red like demons. I instinctively turned away, Bro Doom.

822
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:59,079
Okay this again, this is uh it hurts you know

823
00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:04,800
how bro? Alternate reality. It was a thirteen year old person.

824
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:10,320
Look at this? What is this? They're clothes ripped to shreds,

825
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,559
their skin hanging down on the river bank. I saw

826
00:52:12,639 --> 00:52:16,239
figures that seemed to be from another world, ghosts like

827
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:20,400
their hair falling, falling over their faces, their closes ripped

828
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:27,800
to shreds, their skin hanging from another or another dimension. Okay,

829
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:34,840
So I think that atomic bombs are now what we

830
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,280
are presented now. I'm not saying that they're faking gay, okay,

831
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,119
but I'm saying that they might work a little bit differently.

832
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,559
I'm just saying, Mark, all right, I see your face

833
00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:50,119
sounds crazy, but the truth is stranger than fiction.

834
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 2: My face is reacting to the grotesqueness of those paintings,

835
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,440
that's all. But you know, you're also coming from a

836
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:04,760
different cultural perspective, So what looks psychedelic and trippy to

837
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,360
you might not necessarily look that way. To words of

838
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:13,199
a Japanese person, they look like ghost No. Yeah, no,

839
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:19,280
I get that. I get that, But still like that

840
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,719
it doesn't necessarily have to be that there's a portal,

841
00:53:23,079 --> 00:53:27,199
you know. I mean death, people dying are all. That's

842
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:32,000
all connected to the symbols that they're evoking in that

843
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,280
in that painting. So yeah, it's dark stuff, man, I mean,

844
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,880
I guess you can interpret it that way. I can see,

845
00:53:38,159 --> 00:53:46,000
you know, the connections. But yeah, much to say as

846
00:53:46,039 --> 00:53:50,039
far as comments on that, I'm.

847
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,199
Speaker 3: Looking up the Doom video game. I forget how it

848
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,800
is that they open up the uh, how do they

849
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,400
open up the portal in there. How do they open

850
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:05,679
the portal in Doom story? Let's see here they and

851
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,920
the Doom story. Portals to Hell are typically open through

852
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,920
the use of advanced technology, often involving energy sources that

853
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,920
can tap into the demonic dimensions, usually requiring a specific

854
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,400
device or ritual to activate and create a rift between dimensions,

855
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:22,639
allowing demons to enter the human world. This is actually

856
00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:24,480
a new Doom coming out too. I think it's called

857
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,800
Doom Medieval or something or other, and I want to

858
00:54:29,519 --> 00:54:32,199
play it because it looks sick. Dude, this guy's got

859
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:37,119
like a like this chainsaw gun. Like it looks wild, bro.

860
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:42,320
Doom is probably one of my favorite franchises because it's

861
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,920
like it's repetitive, but you never get tired of it,

862
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,239
of like killing demons stuff. Who doesn't want to kill demons? Right?

863
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure it's a lot of fun. I can't

864
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,239
relate one. I don't. I'm not a big video game

865
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,639
guy anymore, so I I do. I can't say I

866
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,639
like grind. The thought of that game was fun.

867
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 3: Speaking of demons tactics to diverse Suspicion from the Corpus

868
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:12,320
of Magic texts that Saint Augustine's included prudently avoiding works

869
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:17,639
that contained rituals explicically invoking demons, compiling magic texts along

870
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,519
side less censored genres, and placing manuscripts with a cult

871
00:55:22,519 --> 00:55:28,880
context and more orthodox sections of the library. So again

872
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,159
they were hiding it in other things. I found a

873
00:55:32,199 --> 00:55:36,800
copy of the Liberveak, which is grim more on how

874
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:41,719
to create an artificial humanoid, essentially in a copy of

875
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:49,920
a medical text from fourteen some fifteen something, so they

876
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,199
took again. If you're looking, you go, oh, look at

877
00:55:52,199 --> 00:55:54,800
all these medical texts, right, like, oh, I don't want

878
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,559
to look through all this, this is just about the

879
00:55:56,599 --> 00:56:01,119
anatomy of the human. And then within those pages is hey,

880
00:56:02,679 --> 00:56:05,840
do you ever hear of a little thing called the homunculus? Yeah,

881
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,280
here's how you create one, and here's how you extract

882
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:14,480
magical powers from it. Bro, and these medical texts bro.

883
00:56:15,159 --> 00:56:20,800
So again I think it's super interesting, and I'm leaning

884
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,760
more towards the side that I think that all of

885
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,840
the occult and all the stories that we heard about

886
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:36,400
it's all about espionage, right, and guys like Crowley who

887
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,559
are an mi I five or six whatever. It was

888
00:56:40,159 --> 00:56:42,840
the reason that they were recruited as a cultist is

889
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,719
because you could set up a lodge, which is like

890
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,880
a religious organization in a foreign land, and recruit people

891
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:53,480
there who usually people who are joining these lodges are

892
00:56:53,559 --> 00:56:57,800
people who are higher in society, right, Freemasons are usually

893
00:56:58,199 --> 00:57:02,519
people of wealth, the ill, whatever it is. So what

894
00:57:02,599 --> 00:57:04,880
a better way to infiltrate a government if you send

895
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,920
some occultists over there who happens to know how to

896
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,719
speak in code because of occultism and the nature of occultism,

897
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,440
which is all about speaking in code. Right, But I

898
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,920
think that the occult is occulting the fact that it's

899
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,079
fake and gay. That's what I think is happening. And

900
00:57:21,119 --> 00:57:25,280
it's just another face of like, hey, you can use it.

901
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,559
Think about it, bro. Blackmail is the most powerful form

902
00:57:28,599 --> 00:57:31,599
of information, not the information that you get from the

903
00:57:31,639 --> 00:57:34,440
devil by invoking him. Tell the CIA, you invoke the

904
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,800
devil and he told you the secrets of reality. Go ahead,

905
00:57:37,079 --> 00:57:39,920
They're not gonna care now, Tom, I have the real

906
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,960
Jeffrey List and they're gonna come on, Hocket. You get

907
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:44,559
what I'm saying.

908
00:57:45,719 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, that's a good point. Yeah, it's all political.

909
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,800
I think that's kind of the the thing with the

910
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,719
book I was talking about earlier romans of mass destruction,

911
00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:00,800
like they used different political figures in a naby them

912
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:06,039
to commit heinous crimes if it served them. And then

913
00:58:06,079 --> 00:58:09,519
of course we all know about the Inquisition in different

914
00:58:09,519 --> 00:58:12,599
people getting burned at the stake. Well, as you're pointing

915
00:58:12,639 --> 00:58:17,280
out like these church fathers, these people who are you know,

916
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:21,039
the holiest of holies, are practicing this stuff that they

917
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:24,800
themselves are, then you know, putting people to death for

918
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,920
practicing because they're doing it outside of a church. Meanwhile,

919
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,760
they're doing the same thing inside of a church worse,

920
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,440
and you know, so you know the deal.

921
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 3: As far as we know, monst At the Saint Augustine's

922
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,960
were never publicly investigated or accused of practicing magic or

923
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,880
possessing illicit books, though occult text appear to have remained

924
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,000
in the abbey until it's dissolution in fifteen thirty eight.

925
00:58:50,079 --> 00:58:54,159
Eighteen years later, many found their way into the collection

926
00:58:54,239 --> 00:58:59,719
of the English Renaissance mathematician, astrologer and magician John D.

927
00:59:00,239 --> 00:59:02,559
What was John d? Also about oh Espiano? He was

928
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,039
the original Double O seven who drew upon the magical

929
00:59:06,079 --> 00:59:09,639
ideas in his Saint Augustine's manuscripts to construct his own

930
00:59:09,719 --> 00:59:14,639
integrations of magic with scientific ideas and mainstream religious practice.

931
00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:18,480
Huh so a lot of this information that these monks

932
00:59:18,519 --> 00:59:23,079
were putting out our boy John D here got a

933
00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:23,519
hold of.

934
00:59:26,119 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 2: Now have you looked into that? Guy? I sent you

935
00:59:29,039 --> 00:59:32,800
the sub stack. I gave you a membership too.

936
00:59:33,199 --> 00:59:37,039
Speaker 3: No, I ended up opening it. Remind me again, what

937
00:59:37,079 --> 00:59:41,679
was about was about somebody being a homosexuals that. Well,

938
00:59:41,679 --> 00:59:42,440
it's a lot.

939
00:59:42,239 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 2: More than that. There's some one article about how Shakespeare's

940
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gay and all the Shakespeare's stuff has led to where

941
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we're at now in culture where everyone's faking gay as

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you put it. But yeah, John D supposedly didn't have

943
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much correspondence with Francis Bacon as far as the official

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record goes. But when I talked to Robert Frederick about it,

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he was like, yeah, it seems like they would have

946
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definitely interacted with each other, but in a secret context,

947
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because there's really not much in the written record that

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other than the suggestion that they were in the same court,

949
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which you know, so that there's a suggestion that they

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would have probably been working together to some capacity. But

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they weren't like, oh hey, like, let's collaborate on this

952
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project openly.

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Speaker 3: Did you have you ever known about the William Shakespeare

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and John D connection?

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Speaker 2: Well that is that's what we're talking about, because the

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according to Robert Frederick, John D or Francis S. Bacon

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wrote the Shakespeare work and then penned it on William

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Shacksburg to make it like a you know, secret thing

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that because they didn't want, you know, everyone realizing that

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these secret societies put out all this Shakespeare stuff. So

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that's part of it. Is John D, Francis Bacon, and

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Edward de vere these other figures collaborated on the Shakespeare

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material and then put it out saying like, oh yeah,

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we didn't you know, this William Shakespeare guy made it,

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you know. And in truth, the actual living William Shakespeare,

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the guy that was supposedly William Shakespeare, when they did

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research on him, they found out that he wasn't even

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literate and his children like didn't read or write. So like,

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this is the most influential writer of this time and

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his own children don't even read and write. Like, it

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just doesn't make sense. So yeah, the whole thing's sketchy,

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you know, people. The official record is, oh, he was

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this man named William Shakespeare from Stratford upon Avon, But

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that guy just it doesn't make sense. So yeah, I

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mean this is like a two hundred year old conspiracy

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theory though, because this Shakespeare is like three four hundred

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years old now. But John d would have been connected

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to it because he was like the elder of Francis Bacon.

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Speaker 3: I think that Shakespeare was his own person. I think

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Bacon was his own person. I think that there were

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all their own people, you know, the whole if one

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was the other, you know whatever.

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Speaker 2: Have you looked at the have you looked at anything?

984
01:02:35,079 --> 01:02:36,519
Are you just saying that.

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Speaker 3: No, I've looked at some of it. I've looked at

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some of.

987
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Speaker 2: The I think William Shakespeare was a real person.

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Speaker 3: That William Shakespeare was a real person, Yes, okay.

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Speaker 2: But do you think that he was the person who

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was involved in the Shakespeare stuff or do you think

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he was just a fall guy escapegoat, the guy who

992
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took the the front man.

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Speaker 3: Rather, it could have been a group of people, you know,

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it could have been a group of people. But the

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reason I think that he was a real person was

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because allegedly he was traveling.

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Speaker 2: Not saying I'm not saying he was fake. I'm saying

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that the guy who they say is William Shakespeare was

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just like like a like a Patsy idiot, a fool

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that they used as like the because they didn't want

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it to be traced back to them for whatever reason.

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So he did exist, he just wasn't the author. I mean,

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you're saying that a guy traveled around the world as

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William Shakespeare.

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Speaker 3: Uh no, No, So when he traveled around with John

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01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,719
d that it was him and allegedly his brother, and

1007
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:48,360
they were called the Garland Brothers, and there are records

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of them being with John d traveling around Europe, being

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a part of their seances and their workings. And that's

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how allegedly William Shakespeare learned about the occult. And there

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a connection between The Tempest, which is a story that

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01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:08,079
kind of reflects and mimics John Dee in a sort

1013
01:04:08,119 --> 01:04:11,199
of way, right conjuring storms, and then that one guy

1014
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:12,800
with the tower that you went to, I think in

1015
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,880
Rhode Island or whatever he wrote a book on or

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wrote a piece on how well John d could have

1017
01:04:20,599 --> 01:04:27,400
helped write The Tempest play with the whole even tempest,

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01:04:27,639 --> 01:04:29,880
that whole name and that every you know, ten letters.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Francis Bacon and John D were in the

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same court, so they were like coworkers essentially, not that

1021
01:04:37,559 --> 01:04:41,239
that word really makes the perfect definition, but yeah, they

1022
01:04:41,239 --> 01:04:45,440
were peers. They they knew each other. So whereas William

1023
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:49,840
Shakespeare was a guy who like literally his name wasn't

1024
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:54,920
even Shakespeare and he lived in like a like a hut,

1025
01:04:55,159 --> 01:04:58,840
like he was not like a noble, he would not

1026
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,920
have been someone who hung out with John D. That's

1027
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,360
for sure. Francis Bacon would have definitely, But so.

1028
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,599
Speaker 3: Willie william S Baxpear is a whole different guy.

1029
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 2: Well, it's a it's a creation. It's like they took this.

1030
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,800
They took the name because Shakespeare has some sort of

1031
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:20,559
occult symbolism, the spear of long longiness who pierced the

1032
01:05:20,679 --> 01:05:24,199
side of Christ as he was on the So that's

1033
01:05:24,199 --> 01:05:29,559
what Shakespeare refers to. So they created this character. And

1034
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:34,880
so they've done computer analysis on the Shakespeare writings and

1035
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:40,719
they've found that not only is it not William Shakespear,

1036
01:05:41,079 --> 01:05:44,760
but it's more than one person. So you're absolutely right

1037
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:48,360
that John D could have collaborated on the tempest, or

1038
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,679
at least this this guy you're talking about, could be

1039
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:56,079
right in his hypothesis that but yeah, there's there's a

1040
01:05:56,119 --> 01:05:58,079
lot of evidence. And again this is like a two

1041
01:05:58,159 --> 01:06:01,880
hundred year old conspiracy, Like people have been talking about

1042
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:06,519
this for a long time, like because frantzis spacing the

1043
01:06:06,559 --> 01:06:09,320
other thing, there's a lot of strange stuff about him.

1044
01:06:10,039 --> 01:06:13,280
Oh man, well, I guess I'll just shut up. Then yep,

1045
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:13,800
there you go.

1046
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 3: Bro, take that, put that in your in your pipe

1047
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:17,400
and smoke that.

1048
01:06:17,559 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 2: Dude. Well, you know, nobody, nobody likes when people are

1049
01:06:22,079 --> 01:06:26,119
smart asses. So maybe even Google it just wants to

1050
01:06:26,119 --> 01:06:27,480
put me in my place right now.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh, there are no original manuscripts, not so much

1052
01:06:31,119 --> 01:06:34,559
as a couple written in Shakespeare's own hand has been

1053
01:06:34,599 --> 01:06:37,360
proven to exist. In fact, there's no hard evidence that

1054
01:06:37,679 --> 01:06:43,280
Will Shakespeare of Stratford upon Avon, revered as the greatest

1055
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,360
author in the English language, could even write even right.

1056
01:06:46,519 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 2: Because yeah, this is what I'm telling you, dude, This

1057
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:55,320
is not like run of the mill TikTok conspiracy. This

1058
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:59,840
conspiracy theory. Like Mark Twain believed in this conspiracy theory,

1059
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:05,079
Orson Wells believed in this conspiracy. Sigmund Freud believed in

1060
01:07:05,119 --> 01:07:06,320
this conspiracy theory.

1061
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 3: Manley P. Hall believed it. Listen, here's the thing. The

1062
01:07:10,039 --> 01:07:15,199
point is, we have writings of you know, a group

1063
01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:20,639
or Bacon, whoever the hell was. We have uh uh,

1064
01:07:21,039 --> 01:07:25,039
you know the writings. It's a real thing, and allegedly,

1065
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,480
you know, William Shakespeare was also a secret agent, he

1066
01:07:28,639 --> 01:07:31,559
was also a spy. So I gat and think about it.

1067
01:07:31,599 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 2: Well, if he was Francis Bacon, then yeah, he definitely

1068
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,800
was a spy. We know Francis Bacon was a spy.

1069
01:07:37,679 --> 01:07:41,119
So like to say William Shakespeare was this and that

1070
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,719
is like saying Francis Bacon was this and that, because

1071
01:07:44,719 --> 01:07:48,000
according to this theory they're the same person. And what

1072
01:07:48,079 --> 01:07:51,400
you're talking about makes total sense if it was Francis

1073
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:55,400
Bacon or any of his friends, because they're all working

1074
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,599
for the queens. They were all well, but think about

1075
01:07:58,679 --> 01:08:03,039
this too, So what is the Royal Society really all about?

1076
01:08:03,119 --> 01:08:08,280
The Royal Society is an information gathering operation. It's an

1077
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:13,320
intelligence agency. It's one of the world's first intelligence agencies.

1078
01:08:13,719 --> 01:08:18,880
So okay, the world's first intelligence agency goes around the world.

1079
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,479
They gather all this information as much as they can,

1080
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,319
and then they publish in the English language, which becomes

1081
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:29,000
the global language pretty much. It's the world's most common

1082
01:08:29,119 --> 01:08:33,439
language now thanks to the British Empire, which, as you know,

1083
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:37,640
John de first uttered that phrase and was a part

1084
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:42,079
of this group. So like these information gatherers go around

1085
01:08:42,079 --> 01:08:44,520
the world and then they just so happened to come

1086
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:50,920
up with like the biggest, most influential literary work. Like

1087
01:08:51,079 --> 01:08:55,600
it's obviously a plan, it's obviously they've there. It's a

1088
01:08:55,640 --> 01:09:00,079
secret society. And if you're in the club, you s

1089
01:09:00,119 --> 01:09:03,239
mail your brothers farts and you say they smell great,

1090
01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:05,399
because that's what you're supposed to do in the clump.

1091
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:09,079
And this is like the biggest most gassed up thing

1092
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:12,560
in English history is Shakespeare. And why it's because of

1093
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,439
what you were just talking about with the Heshahens. It's

1094
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:19,359
mind control, is taking people away from the Christian mindset

1095
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:24,039
and into this new mindset which is more easy to control.

1096
01:09:24,399 --> 01:09:28,279
Because they were having all these fights and arguments Protestant

1097
01:09:28,319 --> 01:09:33,800
ever since Luther Protestant versus Catholic, and then Anglican and

1098
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:37,199
all these other denominations fighting with each other. So what

1099
01:09:37,199 --> 01:09:39,960
do they do, They say, we're gonna just completely get

1100
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,760
out of the game of fighting over what religion is,

1101
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,199
which won the third, and we're going to just focus

1102
01:09:46,239 --> 01:09:48,840
on the material and the science. And that's how they

1103
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:53,520
created scientism. And it was through the Shakespeare work, because

1104
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:59,399
Shakespeare was all about mocking the traditions that I guess

1105
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,000
now days it's very hard to relate to because we're

1106
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,479
not in the medieval mindset. But for the people in

1107
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:09,439
the medieval mindset, the Shakespeare stuff was like it was

1108
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,880
like a complete slap in the face to anybody who

1109
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:16,119
was like a traditional type of person. There's like gay sex,

1110
01:10:16,199 --> 01:10:20,039
there's lesbians doing this and that. There's magic, the occult,

1111
01:10:21,079 --> 01:10:24,840
you know, a Aristocrats up to no good, the Friar

1112
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:30,720
turns Juliette into a gold idol. You know, like there's

1113
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:37,560
all kinds of weird stuff in Shakespeare. Honor. If a

1114
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:48,560
cabilitudinitibis honor, If a cabilitudinititibis I think I kind of

1115
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:50,680
nailed it. What does that, What does that have to

1116
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,199
do with anything? What does that word mean.

1117
01:10:54,159 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 3: It's a word that means the state of being able

1118
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,680
to achieve honors, and it's mentioned in uh one of

1119
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:09,520
William Shakespeare's plays and eighteen honorificbilitudinibbis Let's see here, uh

1120
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:14,359
comprise numerous of Bacon's oratories and this disquisitions, and had

1121
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,560
also apparently held copies of the play Richard the Second

1122
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,920
Richard the Third The ol Dogs, but these had been removed.

1123
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,920
On the outer she was scrawled repeatedly the names of

1124
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,359
Bacon and Shakespeare, along with the name of Thomas Nash.

1125
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,840
There were several quotations from Shakespeare in a reference to

1126
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:35,920
the word honor fibc, which appears in Shakespeare's Love Labors Lot.

1127
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:40,079
Give it a try, honorific Bill Itton.

1128
01:11:41,239 --> 01:11:45,119
Speaker 2: Then yeah, you already lost it.

1129
01:11:45,159 --> 01:11:49,319
Speaker 3: But that's Okayikes, yeah, my port the brain can't even

1130
01:11:49,319 --> 01:11:57,960
comprehend that. So try wake, oh waitegan is Wake is interesting.

1131
01:11:58,399 --> 01:12:03,760
I like Terrence McKenna's interpretation of it because I.

1132
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 2: Didn't know Terrence McKenna had an interpretation of it.

1133
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna blow your mind. I'm gonna send it to

1134
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,119
you so you can listen to it.

1135
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 2: Can I tell you what I was telling Thomas about.

1136
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,600
I don't think you put the episode out yet, but

1137
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,680
I was telling Thomas that I kind of think that

1138
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,920
it's meant to put you in a trance. Like you

1139
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:25,279
start reading all these words that are put together, and

1140
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:29,279
words from different languages and multi syllable words, and it

1141
01:12:29,359 --> 01:12:32,680
kind of puts you in a trance state. I don't know.

1142
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,600
Maybe Terrence McKenna would have thought the same thing, since

1143
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,199
he is all about psychedelics.

1144
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 3: I just send it to you. Listen to that and

1145
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:45,239
we'll do another episode because it's mind blowing. And essentially

1146
01:12:46,279 --> 01:12:51,279
McKenna says that this book is meant to if all

1147
01:12:51,319 --> 01:12:55,399
of humanity is wiped out, to be able to recreate

1148
01:12:55,479 --> 01:13:01,840
the human language over again with Finnegan's Wake. Okay, and

1149
01:13:02,079 --> 01:13:05,319
and you're absolutely right with the thing of putting you

1150
01:13:05,359 --> 01:13:08,560
in a sort of trance. And you know this ties

1151
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:12,880
into WILLIAMS Burrows, you know, cut up method and using

1152
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,800
words as a sort of you know, invocation or sort

1153
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,239
of again kind of mk ultra like that. That's the

1154
01:13:19,279 --> 01:13:23,199
whole thing that we're talking about, Like can words influence you? Right,

1155
01:13:23,239 --> 01:13:26,439
you were talking about William Shakespeare and the fact that

1156
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:31,399
he has attributed so many words to the language.

1157
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 2: Let's go into this link I just sent you real quick,

1158
01:13:35,039 --> 01:13:38,600
and then maybe we'll stop there and come back to

1159
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,800
this conversation after I look at the link you sent me.

1160
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,359
But this kind of puts a crescendo on what you're

1161
01:13:46,399 --> 01:13:50,079
talking about overall, I think, and maybe this is a

1162
01:13:50,079 --> 01:13:53,920
good intro for you to get into Robert Frederick's work

1163
01:13:54,119 --> 01:13:56,079
because I sent you a substacks, so you should be

1164
01:13:56,079 --> 01:13:59,720
able to see the whole article. Yeah, so yeah, they

1165
01:14:00,119 --> 01:14:03,000
he kind of talks about this whole theater of the mind,

1166
01:14:03,119 --> 01:14:06,920
which is a big concept in our conspiracy world, where

1167
01:14:07,279 --> 01:14:11,279
we talk about these figures like Trump and Obama and

1168
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:15,680
Biden and all the other you know, people that take

1169
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:21,399
the stage, the political stage and captivate the hearts and

1170
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,760
minds of people in this way where you know, we

1171
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as conspiracy theorists have to keep our head on a

1172
01:14:27,279 --> 01:14:30,359
swivel because we're like, oh my god, Trump, he's draining

1173
01:14:30,399 --> 01:14:31,960
the swamp. And then we're like, oh my god, Trump,

1174
01:14:32,239 --> 01:14:34,840
He's in the Israel cabal. And then it's like, oh

1175
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,279
my god, Trump is starting World War three. Oh my god,

1176
01:14:37,279 --> 01:14:39,760
Trump is ending World War three. Like you don't know

1177
01:14:40,159 --> 01:14:42,279
which way to look. And I think this is a

1178
01:14:42,319 --> 01:14:47,560
part of what was created through Shakespeare, and not just Shakespeare,

1179
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:52,680
but like the whole education system around Shakespeare too, because

1180
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,399
you know, this is big, This is a big deal.

1181
01:14:56,560 --> 01:15:01,439
Like every college has a drama department, And what do

1182
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:05,720
they talk about first and foremost in those in that

1183
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,720
sector of education? Shakespeare? Right, language, what do they talk

1184
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:17,520
about Shakespeare? Yeah, that's literally what it was. It was

1185
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,439
like a bunch of smart, nerdy guys who knew they

1186
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,880
weren't cool or popular, found like the good looking kind

1187
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:28,359
of doofyed, dumb idiot guy in town who's tall, maybe

1188
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:32,600
like you're were porting for duty, that's right, these plays.

1189
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Speaker 3: Because we gotta influence the English language.

1190
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 2: Well. And if he was a real person, he was

1191
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,720
an actor. Which who better to pick as your person

1192
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:47,720
to lead this big hoax than an actor? Right? Like, yes,

1193
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,000
I don't know he he is a perfect guy for

1194
01:15:50,039 --> 01:15:50,399
the role.

1195
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:54,079
Speaker 3: I've seen these conspiracies, you know, these conspiracy videos floating

1196
01:15:54,079 --> 01:15:58,319
around Instagram were on, you know, like Donald Trump's IMDb

1197
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:04,000
or whatever shows that he's an actor. Jd Vance actor. Uh,

1198
01:16:04,119 --> 01:16:04,600
what's the guy?

1199
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 2: Zolinsky actor? Yeah, Zolensky actor.

1200
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,039
Speaker 3: And it's interesting, right because.

1201
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:14,079
Speaker 2: You see Zelensky dancing in high heels in that music video.

1202
01:16:14,399 --> 01:16:15,319
Speaker 3: I've seen that before.

1203
01:16:15,399 --> 01:16:18,159
Speaker 2: Yes, oh, Mike. I just saw that last week. I

1204
01:16:18,199 --> 01:16:20,000
was like, what the fuck is thing?

1205
01:16:20,119 --> 01:16:22,079
Speaker 3: But the fact that he was actually in like all

1206
01:16:22,079 --> 01:16:24,439
these comedy movies and stuff like that, that's pretty bizarre.

1207
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to as he played a president in the

1208
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:30,319
movie in a movie and then became the president of Ukraine.

1209
01:16:30,319 --> 01:16:33,039
They literally used that movie. It was propaganda to get

1210
01:16:33,079 --> 01:16:35,760
him in office. That's crazy, which I don't think they

1211
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:39,359
really need that in Ukraine. It's not like they're like

1212
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:43,920
the you know, the reputation of having a huge democracy.

1213
01:16:44,079 --> 01:16:45,680
Speaker 3: But Donald Trump has been in movies.

1214
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:51,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, He's in one of like the most classic Christmas

1215
01:16:51,079 --> 01:16:53,399
movies of all time, Home Alone.

1216
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so all the world of stage right, this model

1217
01:16:58,039 --> 01:17:00,279
of the Globe Theater. Did you know that the Globe

1218
01:17:00,319 --> 01:17:04,239
Theater is actually one of the most famous theaters to

1219
01:17:04,399 --> 01:17:08,560
have ever existed, which is attributed to William Shakespeare. But

1220
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:12,000
did you know that we have zero evidence of.

1221
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 2: It, zero evidence of the Globe Theater. Yes, that's kind

1222
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:22,239
of weird. There's a town next to where I grew

1223
01:17:22,279 --> 01:17:28,439
up called Stratford, and they had the Shakespeare World Theater

1224
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:33,119
Globe Theater. They had a theater named after Shakespeare and

1225
01:17:33,199 --> 01:17:35,319
some kids burned it down a couple of years ago.

1226
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 3: That's interesting because the original one burned down and they

1227
01:17:41,279 --> 01:17:44,239
they rebuilt it from memory.

1228
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:44,640
Speaker 2: Huh.

1229
01:17:45,119 --> 01:17:49,239
Speaker 3: So there are plans for reconstructing the original Globe Theater,

1230
01:17:49,319 --> 01:17:51,720
but it's not possible to make an exact replica, and

1231
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:56,199
the reason for that is because there doesn't exist any there.

1232
01:17:56,439 --> 01:18:00,760
There is only two pictures of it, pre fire and

1233
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:06,720
post fire from a picture from a drawing of a

1234
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:11,600
skyline of it was London or whatever the hell it was.

1235
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, naturally, So you're saying that it's only the only

1236
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:20,079
image of it is an illustration. There's no photo of it.

1237
01:18:20,279 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 3: There's nothing of it. And they believe that they let

1238
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:30,479
me find the picture here. They believe that they have

1239
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:34,319
found the remnants of a piece of the Globe Theater,

1240
01:18:34,399 --> 01:18:36,920
which you can go and see in person, but we

1241
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:40,520
don't actually know what it even looked like. Let me

1242
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:41,560
see where if I can find this.

1243
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,119
Speaker 2: Sky So is it possible that this is like a

1244
01:18:44,199 --> 01:18:47,760
Rosicrucian larp kind of thing, where it's like the theater

1245
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:51,039
of the mind, the Globe Theater that never existed, like

1246
01:18:51,159 --> 01:18:52,319
the theater in your head.

1247
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 3: If you get into Robert Floods you know, you were

1248
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,359
talking about memory and mind and stuff like that. If

1249
01:18:57,399 --> 01:18:59,119
you get into Robert and I did a whole short

1250
01:18:59,159 --> 01:19:00,800
on this, by the way, so or right, I think

1251
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:02,960
I never put it out, but I wrote a short

1252
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:07,239
on this. If you get into like Francis Yate's work

1253
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,840
and Robert Flood and all these guys that were using

1254
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:14,279
you know, the mnemonic techniques, you know, memory and everything,

1255
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:19,600
there is this belief that memory that the mind can

1256
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:23,600
sort of give you sort of special powers and something.

1257
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,319
Again I haven't deciphered it. I still don't understand it.

1258
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:30,159
But what I do understand is that how you said

1259
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:34,920
that perhaps these theaters, which, by the way, this this theater,

1260
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:41,800
the Globe theater is the original archetype of what we

1261
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:45,560
now have as you know, the main stage, and eventually

1262
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,920
it evolved into the movie theater. Okay, so it's all

1263
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:56,640
an evolution that essentially, Shakespeare and all these guys, this

1264
01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:01,439
group of people, they influence quite literally reality through writing.

1265
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:04,399
I mean, any major world religion is just writing that

1266
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:07,319
has affected the reality of people. I mean, that's the

1267
01:20:07,359 --> 01:20:11,960
reality of it. But yeah, this Francisiates writes about it.

1268
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:20,279
Francis Yates, The Art of Memory and also the Shakespeare's Theater,

1269
01:20:21,359 --> 01:20:26,359
which it's called Theater of the World. And she gets

1270
01:20:26,359 --> 01:20:30,800
into the whole thing that maybe perhaps the theater was

1271
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:36,520
made in certain geometric proportions to kind of sort of

1272
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:40,039
elevate your consciousness in this sort of weird way. You

1273
01:20:40,119 --> 01:20:44,319
have Robert Flood in there. But point being right here,

1274
01:20:44,359 --> 01:20:47,800
Francis Yates, the Theater of the World. Point being is

1275
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:52,199
that technically we don't have any evidence that this thing existed.

1276
01:20:53,079 --> 01:20:59,840
William A globe theater remains, so they think that the globe.

1277
01:21:00,079 --> 01:21:04,079
You know, that this piece here is part was part

1278
01:21:04,079 --> 01:21:04,840
of the Globe Theater.

1279
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:09,039
Speaker 2: That's almost the book by Francis Yates called.

1280
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 3: Theater of the World.

1281
01:21:11,159 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 2: Okay, dude. Architecture, I'm telling you, man, this is like

1282
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:20,119
where the rubber meets the road with the occult, because

1283
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:25,159
the money it takes to do these types of projects

1284
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:28,960
is huge, right, and whenever you have something like a

1285
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:32,720
fabled building like this, you know, it's kind of it

1286
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:37,000
reminds me like they're creating like a Solomon's Temple legend,

1287
01:21:37,119 --> 01:21:39,840
but around Shakespeare, you know what I mean, And the

1288
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:45,600
whole idea with Solomon's Temple, that's the only evidence of it.

1289
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like, this is the we think this is

1290
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:50,000
the foundation line.

1291
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:53,319
Speaker 2: And what if dude, all right, look at that. Hold on,

1292
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:58,560
go back to that picture. Imagine yourself bird's eye view

1293
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:03,800
completely and that circle is complete. Kind of reminds me

1294
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:07,479
of the stuff that John Dee was writing in those

1295
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:12,039
Nate in those notebooks, like the occult symbols with the

1296
01:22:12,079 --> 01:22:15,359
circles and the words going around the circles. Like, I

1297
01:22:15,359 --> 01:22:18,239
don't know, that's just kind of a stretch, but it's

1298
01:22:18,239 --> 01:22:19,880
what we like to do, right, That's why they call

1299
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,840
me stretch Steve's But anyways.

1300
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 3: Here's one of the pictures of the skyline.

1301
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 2: But think about this, think about this. What stick with

1302
01:22:29,039 --> 01:22:31,640
me here? So the globe, the globe, theater, theater of

1303
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:36,600
the mind, theater of the world. What's Solomon's Temple? Solomon's

1304
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:42,359
Temple is supposed to be an anatomical correspondence of a

1305
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:45,720
human being, right, So the building is built. A lot

1306
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:49,079
of churches, Yeah, a lot of churches are built like

1307
01:22:49,119 --> 01:22:54,039
this too, where there's a head, there's arms, there's a body,

1308
01:22:54,239 --> 01:22:57,840
and there's legs of the building literally, and it creates

1309
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:03,880
this effect that who knows, maybe what I start to

1310
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:07,199
think of the effect that has on the person inside

1311
01:23:07,199 --> 01:23:10,159
of the structure, but then also like what of the

1312
01:23:10,199 --> 01:23:13,399
structure itself, what kind of energy does it take on?

1313
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:16,239
But it kind of reminds me of the Solomon's Temple

1314
01:23:16,399 --> 01:23:20,439
idea with this, you know circle globe theater. If it's

1315
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:23,119
supposed to be like an orb I guess.

1316
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 3: So that's what you think when you think globe. The

1317
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:28,840
reason that they call it the globe theater was because

1318
01:23:30,199 --> 01:23:32,920
it was a microcosm of the macro and apparently there

1319
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,800
was like, you know, the different layers and levels of it.

1320
01:23:36,039 --> 01:23:39,079
You know, the top represented the sky, the bottom represented

1321
01:23:39,279 --> 01:23:41,439
you know, the earth, and then the bottom. I forgot

1322
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:45,920
what it represented, but yeah. The precise location of the

1323
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:48,399
building remained unknown until a small part of the foundation,

1324
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:51,640
including one of the original pier bases a peer base,

1325
01:23:52,319 --> 01:23:54,600
was discovered in nineteen eighty nine by the Department of

1326
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:58,159
Greater London Archaeology beneath the park the car park at

1327
01:23:58,159 --> 01:24:01,279
the rear of Anchor Terrace Street. The shape of the

1328
01:24:01,319 --> 01:24:03,119
foundation is now reports.

1329
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:07,079
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, Oh okay,

1330
01:24:07,119 --> 01:24:07,920
never mind, go ahead.

1331
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 3: The shape of the foundation is now replicated on the

1332
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,600
surface as the majority of the foundation lies beneath the

1333
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:17,399
street a listed building. No further excavations have been permitted,

1334
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,119
so it's like, hey, hey, hey, hey hey, No no no, no, no,

1335
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:24,439
you can't you can't know where it actually know what

1336
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:25,920
you know?

1337
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 2: What anchor is? Right, Like what that symbolically represents? No

1338
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:38,079
So the anchor is a super Masonic symbol. It connects

1339
01:24:38,199 --> 01:24:42,039
to the Phoenicians, but it's also a biblical symbol that

1340
01:24:42,199 --> 01:24:48,239
relates to Noah. So the fact that this is in

1341
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:55,399
Anchor Terrace is not totally regular, Like there's some synchronicity

1342
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:59,279
or twilight language going on there. I thought for a

1343
01:24:59,319 --> 01:25:00,920
second the way that that was written that they were

1344
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:04,199
going to say that the Globe Theater just so happens

1345
01:25:04,199 --> 01:25:06,399
to be right where the UCM is, And I'm like, oh,

1346
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:08,920
go figure, but that's not the case.

1347
01:25:09,159 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 3: So right here.

1348
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:10,079
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1349
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 3: A modern reconstruction of the theater, named Shakespeare's Globe, opened

1350
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,399
in nineteen ninety seven with the production of Henry the Fifth.

1351
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:21,159
It is an academic here you go, an academic approximation

1352
01:25:21,279 --> 01:25:23,800
of the original design based on available evidence of the

1353
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,640
fifteen ninety nine and sixteen fourteen buildings, and is located

1354
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:29,399
approximately seven hundred and fifty feet from the site of

1355
01:25:29,399 --> 01:25:33,439
the original theater. The globe's detailed dimensions are unknown, but

1356
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:37,840
its shape and size can be estimated from scholarly inquiry

1357
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:41,800
over the last two centuries. The evidence suggests that it

1358
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:45,479
was a three story, open air amphitheater, approximately one hundred

1359
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,800
feet in diameter that could house up to three thousand spectators.

1360
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,760
The globe is shown around Hollers sketch of the building

1361
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,479
later incorporated. Blah blah blah.

1362
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 2: Dude, check this out. So do you know what Alisir

1363
01:26:00,079 --> 01:26:06,079
Rowley's family was involved in, Well, a beer. They were brewers, right,

1364
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:10,680
and brewer brewing is very much connected to the occult

1365
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:15,640
because you need to have knowledge of herbs and such, right,

1366
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,840
which at one point in time, yeah, alchemy and so

1367
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:22,159
so the where the globe theater just so happens to

1368
01:26:22,239 --> 01:26:27,439
be is the site of Anchor Terrorists. But Anchor Terrorists

1369
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:32,359
is listed as a listed building in the UK, which

1370
01:26:32,399 --> 01:26:35,840
means it's like a historical site in America. So they

1371
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:39,720
can't excavate Anchor Terrorists because it's our it's protected. So

1372
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:43,199
go figure. It just so happens to be under something

1373
01:26:43,239 --> 01:26:46,920
that they'll never be able to demolish or excavate, right,

1374
01:26:47,279 --> 01:26:51,319
but to add, you know, a step further, it's Anchor Brewery.

1375
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:57,239
So again that symbolic Masonic kind of anchor symbolism mixed

1376
01:26:57,239 --> 01:26:59,880
in with the brewery. I don't see much of it

1377
01:27:00,079 --> 01:27:04,119
out the family, but it does say that it was

1378
01:27:04,159 --> 01:27:10,840
founded by John Perkins and Robert Barclay of the banking

1379
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:14,439
the Barclay banking family, which the Barclay family. Don't they

1380
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:17,000
own like the Knicks or something like they own like

1381
01:27:17,039 --> 01:27:20,359
a huge basketball team, or they own the center where

1382
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:23,359
the Knicks play or something, the Barclay Center. It's in

1383
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,600
La or New York City. Where's the Barclay Center. I

1384
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:28,800
think that's in like LA or something.

1385
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:32,159
Speaker 3: New York.

1386
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:34,279
Speaker 2: Oh, it is in New York. Yeah, that's where the

1387
01:27:34,319 --> 01:27:36,359
Knicks play, the Barclay Center.

1388
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:39,279
Speaker 3: I know nothing about sports, so you got me there.

1389
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 2: I don't know much about sports either, other than what

1390
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:45,800
I hear colloquially. So yeah, but.

1391
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:49,319
Speaker 3: Think about this because right, this cost one billion dollars

1392
01:27:49,359 --> 01:27:51,800
to make, one point three seven and twenty twenty four dollars.

1393
01:27:52,039 --> 01:27:57,680
I recently went to the Ben's Stadium in Atlanta that also.

1394
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:05,319
Speaker 2: Bro hold on. This brewery has been visited by the

1395
01:28:05,359 --> 01:28:09,960
Prince of Wales Otto von Bismarck, which was like an

1396
01:28:10,039 --> 01:28:16,119
important German aristocrat, Napoleon Bonaparte. Uh, and then a guy

1397
01:28:16,199 --> 01:28:18,800
from Egypt, Ibrahim Pasha.

1398
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:19,600
Speaker 3: Have I showed you?

1399
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 2: We're going all over the place. Is this like an

1400
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:27,079
Ossyrian type of thing?

1401
01:28:27,319 --> 01:28:30,319
Speaker 3: No, they actually have Napoleon Bonapart's penis. It's owned by

1402
01:28:30,319 --> 01:28:30,760
a family.

1403
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,640
Speaker 2: Huh. But isn't that weird though? Like, Okay, so the

1404
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:38,840
globe theater burns down and then this anchor terrace with

1405
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:43,640
these banking families gets built right on the side.

1406
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:47,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, woh, almost like it's got some power. Bro.

1407
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 2: Okay, so you you mentioned Napoleon and his member and

1408
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:56,920
now you're showing me a mountain that kind of looks

1409
01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:00,199
like a giant vagina. What's going on here?

1410
01:29:00,319 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 3: This is allegedly where the Noah. This is actually what

1411
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:07,159
they claim is Noah's Ark. So we're talking about things

1412
01:29:07,199 --> 01:29:11,800
that you know, haven't really been found because blah blah blah. Well,

1413
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,680
Noah's Ark is another one of those things, is like where.

1414
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:18,359
Speaker 2: It's on Mount error at.

1415
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 3: Well this I don't know where this is in in Turkey,

1416
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:23,520
but some people.

1417
01:29:23,359 --> 01:29:26,399
Speaker 2: That's Mount error at that we're looking at right there? Ye, yeah,

1418
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,920
see Mount Ararat. How do I know all this stuff?

1419
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:32,199
It doesn't. Nobody likes to know it all one.

1420
01:29:32,319 --> 01:29:32,520
Speaker 3: You know.

1421
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 2: It's funny like our podcast listeners like they love us

1422
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:42,399
but for some reason, like nobody likes to know it

1423
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:45,239
all But anyways, okay, so I didn't know that. I

1424
01:29:45,279 --> 01:29:51,119
was just guessing Mount ara At good guess, thanks Swan cool.

1425
01:29:51,319 --> 01:29:54,239
Why is this excavated? Is that why it looks like that?

1426
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:58,359
I kind of made like a a big joke there.

1427
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:01,119
I think kind of look like that, doesn't it.

1428
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 3: I think they said it was a natural formation last

1429
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:07,119
time I checked that. It's been debunked. But let me

1430
01:30:07,159 --> 01:30:10,600
pull it up. So the idea of no as Ark

1431
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:13,760
is okay. In Turkey based on the Bible, no definite

1432
01:30:14,079 --> 01:30:18,520
evidence has been found archaeologists. Archaeologists came to have found

1433
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:24,039
the true location at the Duru Pinar site on Mount

1434
01:30:24,279 --> 01:30:26,760
ten Durak in eastern Turkey. So I guess it's not

1435
01:30:27,119 --> 01:30:29,000
the area believe to be the one.

1436
01:30:29,079 --> 01:30:32,560
Speaker 2: So they found wood, They found wood from a boat

1437
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:33,640
on that mountain.

1438
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:35,520
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if they found it.

1439
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 2: I think it's I don't think it's been proven that

1440
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:46,479
that that is actually Yeah, see they found something petrified ruines.

1441
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:50,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, they what they believe is right, They don't they

1442
01:30:50,119 --> 01:30:53,880
don't know what it. Geologists assert that it is an

1443
01:30:54,079 --> 01:31:00,840
entirely natural formation, but have nominated as a as geological heritage.

1444
01:31:01,199 --> 01:31:05,680
So I don't know if they've done tests or anything there.

1445
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:10,680
But apparently earthquakes exposed the formation in nineteen forty eight.

1446
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:15,279
Speaker 2: Well, you know, they say the Garden of Eden is

1447
01:31:15,319 --> 01:31:16,840
over there too, in Turkey.

1448
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:21,039
Speaker 3: No, it's in Florida. Bro, we got we got the receipts.

1449
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:28,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously pre old World Florida's groundbreaking conclusions.

1450
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:32,039
Speaker 3: He's not the one that created that, though.

1451
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:35,079
Speaker 2: Where does that idea originate?

1452
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:40,079
Speaker 3: Ee calloway has been talking about that since it's a

1453
01:31:40,079 --> 01:31:46,279
long time now. E E Callaway was a he we

1454
01:31:46,359 --> 01:31:47,119
pull it up here.

1455
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:50,079
Speaker 2: I don't doubt it. I like it. I think the

1456
01:31:50,119 --> 01:31:56,199
Fertile Crescent definitely could be the Gulf of America sounds

1457
01:31:56,239 --> 01:31:57,359
a lot cooler now.

1458
01:31:58,039 --> 01:32:02,239
Speaker 3: So the Garden of Eden. He wrote in the beginning.

1459
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:06,279
He claims that Torres State Park is the biblical Garden

1460
01:32:06,279 --> 01:32:09,680
of Eden, and he's been talking about this since since

1461
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:14,800
a long time now. Bro, this is where gopher woods exists,

1462
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:20,359
and like that's part of the whole you know, narrative,

1463
01:32:20,359 --> 01:32:24,239
biblical narrative if you will. You have the rivers that

1464
01:32:24,279 --> 01:32:27,640
flow through there. It's at the Florida and Georgia border,

1465
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:31,039
the fag border. So it might be fake and gay,

1466
01:32:31,119 --> 01:32:34,439
but that's besides the point, you know, point being that

1467
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:38,479
this is a good contender. And maybe there was multiple

1468
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:40,920
Garden of Edens, like we don't really know, right, like.

1469
01:32:42,319 --> 01:32:47,760
Speaker 2: Or yeah, maybe maybe it was the Garden of Eden

1470
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:55,039
because they came from the Fertile Crescent and then where

1471
01:32:55,079 --> 01:32:59,960
they settled after the cataclysm became known as the Guard

1472
01:33:00,159 --> 01:33:02,720
of Eden because that's where they were from, rather than

1473
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:04,319
that's where they were, you know what I mean.

1474
01:33:06,159 --> 01:33:10,680
Speaker 3: So it says here that Vitaria State Park has trees

1475
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:14,039
that are among the rarest oldest worldwide.

1476
01:33:14,159 --> 01:33:14,319
Speaker 2: Bro.

1477
01:33:15,159 --> 01:33:19,039
Speaker 3: So this guy, let me see since when he's been

1478
01:33:19,039 --> 01:33:22,279
talking about it. Here you go, Tyler from the in

1479
01:33:22,319 --> 01:33:24,800
the mid nineteen hundreds. This dude's been talking about for long.

1480
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:31,640
He even had the Garden of Eden, he told he's

1481
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:33,520
been talking about since nineteen seventy two.

1482
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 2: Bro. Well, and it's not like you know, out of nowhere.

1483
01:33:39,399 --> 01:33:43,800
You know a lot of people who came to America

1484
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:47,159
have considered this place. I mean, that's what the whole

1485
01:33:47,159 --> 01:33:50,600
Mormon religion is based on. So it's not completely out

1486
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:54,680
of nowhere, but the Mormons talk about I don't. I

1487
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:56,920
think the Mormons think it's out where they are now

1488
01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:57,760
in Utah.

1489
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 3: Check this, Brother Dud had signs up where Adam and

1490
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:11,279
Eve butt their first before the original Garden of Eden Bristol.

1491
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 2: And that's the other thing too, Like, you know, the

1492
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:18,039
whole East Coast was named by these people who were

1493
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,479
you know, their whole lives were revolved around what they

1494
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:24,319
read and learned from the Bible. For the most part,

1495
01:34:24,359 --> 01:34:27,239
a lot of people only read that. And so there's

1496
01:34:27,279 --> 01:34:32,720
all these Biblical town names everywhere, Bristol, Bethany, Bethlehem, Salem,

1497
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:34,079
like it's all over the place.

1498
01:34:34,359 --> 01:34:37,079
Speaker 3: Let's wrap up with Bonaparte's penis, since you haven't heard.

1499
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 2: Of hit me with this. Is this like some kind

1500
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:42,239
of osiris ritual thing here?

1501
01:34:43,199 --> 01:34:43,319
Speaker 3: Oh?

1502
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I recently talked about this and I learned

1503
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:52,000
that Nebe right, No is it not neb Who's the

1504
01:34:52,039 --> 01:34:57,960
guy that was like the the Tower of Babbel. He's

1505
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:02,279
in the story the Tower about Nimrod. The Nimrod is

1506
01:35:02,319 --> 01:35:07,520
actually the biblical version of Osiris. I didn't know that

1507
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:08,439
until recently.

1508
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 3: So. Napoleon's penis was allegedly amputated during an autopsy shortly

1509
01:35:14,039 --> 01:35:17,079
after his death in eighteen twenty one. Since then, it

1510
01:35:17,079 --> 01:35:22,520
has passed through several owners, including ASW. Rosenbach, who exhibited

1511
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:25,359
in New York in nineteen twenty seven. It was purchased

1512
01:35:25,359 --> 01:35:29,000
by John K. Vladimir in nineteen seventy seven and is

1513
01:35:29,039 --> 01:35:33,199
still owning his family. It was described as similar to

1514
01:35:33,279 --> 01:35:37,359
a piece of leather or a small shriveled eel. So

1515
01:35:39,159 --> 01:35:40,840
there's pictures of it. I'm not gonna pull it up,

1516
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,399
but there's pictures of it. And this was a guy

1517
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:48,000
who allegedly was making deals with the devil, right, the

1518
01:35:48,039 --> 01:35:51,319
red Man. He was having meetings with this red entity

1519
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:54,720
that was telling him to take over the world and

1520
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:58,319
to fight the wars that he fought and all this stuff.

1521
01:35:58,359 --> 01:36:00,119
So it would make sense that, right, they have the

1522
01:36:00,119 --> 01:36:03,760
head of John the Baptist, they have the skull and

1523
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:08,560
bones of Geronimo because he was super natural. What a

1524
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:12,399
better thing to have than the penis of Napoleon bone,

1525
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:15,840
a part, right, he got a boner to pick with

1526
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:23,159
you brow a bone apart? So it's okay, allegedly a thing. Bro.

1527
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:28,640
Why they have it is a long term New Jersey resident.

1528
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1529
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:38,319
Speaker 3: This will show it je. It's one and a half

1530
01:36:38,399 --> 01:36:40,680
inch long penis, last one to be in the possession

1531
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:41,479
of New York's.

1532
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:45,239
Speaker 2: How did it end up in New Jersey? Because apparently

1533
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:49,680
Napoleon Bonaparte didn't he die on an island? Wasn't he

1534
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:55,319
like put on an island to die? And then the

1535
01:36:55,359 --> 01:36:57,760
story goes that it actually was his brother and he

1536
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:01,239
had a body double lookalike brother who took his place

1537
01:37:01,319 --> 01:37:04,760
for whatever reason, and Napoleon lived the rest of his

1538
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:07,840
life in New Jersey? Have you ever heard that? Conspiracy theories?

1539
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:14,279
Speaker 3: And doctor J. K. Lamir, who did extensive research on

1540
01:37:14,319 --> 01:37:17,640
the Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy assassinations, died in

1541
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:19,439
two thousand and seven at age ninety two.

1542
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:22,880
Speaker 2: Huh, that's the guy who got Napoleon's penis.

1543
01:37:23,079 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and now his daughter has it.

1544
01:37:26,319 --> 01:37:29,640
Speaker 2: Okay, But again, like, how did they get the penis?

1545
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:34,600
Because there is the secretion, okay, so how did it

1546
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:35,520
get to auction?

1547
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:39,239
Speaker 3: Like where you want to follow the chain of custody

1548
01:37:39,239 --> 01:37:42,680
of Napoleon Bonaparte's. Yeah, dick, bro, I want to.

1549
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,880
Speaker 2: Know when it was separated, because here's the thing, buddy,

1550
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:52,640
Apparently Napoleon dynamite. Napoleon Bonaparte died on an island. Don't

1551
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:53,159
you know that?

1552
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 3: No, I don't know how he died.

1553
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:59,159
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, they like this. Whole official story is that

1554
01:37:59,199 --> 01:38:03,199
they put him on an island because he was all right,

1555
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:04,720
and they got an exile.

1556
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 3: Um. So when Napoleon died an exile on island of

1557
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:14,079
Saint Helena in eighteen twenty one, his doctor surrepidously took

1558
01:38:14,159 --> 01:38:19,600
his penis during the autopsy, surreptitiously eat a bag of dicks.

1559
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:21,319
Eat a bag of Napoleon dicks.

1560
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:25,079
Speaker 2: Mark people say that word before?

1561
01:38:25,319 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 3: Who smuggled it to Corsica. The priest was killed in

1562
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:31,439
a bizarre blood Vandetta says.

1563
01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:34,600
Speaker 2: Wait here, why did he have a doctor with him?

1564
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:38,279
If he was exiled on an island, he had a house,

1565
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:41,439
a doctor. They just set him up with like a

1566
01:38:41,439 --> 01:38:42,600
whole village.

1567
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 3: Brow history is a lie, don't you know that?

1568
01:38:47,159 --> 01:38:50,560
Speaker 2: Well? I heard that it was actually his brother who

1569
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:54,039
took his place on that island and that Napoleon went

1570
01:38:54,119 --> 01:38:57,840
on to live the remainder of his life in the

1571
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:01,359
colony of New Jersey, which is so weird because you

1572
01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:04,279
just showed us that his penis is in New Jersey.

1573
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:10,560
So maybe there's something to that, dude. Maybe this conspiracy

1574
01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:13,199
theorist guy who died at the age of ninety two

1575
01:39:13,279 --> 01:39:16,640
in two thousand and seven, maybe he knew something.

1576
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:20,239
Speaker 3: Abraham Lincoln's bloodstained collar and a treasure trove of items

1577
01:39:20,239 --> 01:39:23,560
from his own idiosyncratic relationships as some of the most

1578
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:26,439
important historical events in that this is a wizard, bro

1579
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:31,439
He's collecting like these magical relics the blood of Abraham Lincoln.

1580
01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:36,000
Speaker 2: And look at that though he had an idiosyncratic relationship

1581
01:39:36,199 --> 01:39:40,680
to some of the most important historical events, sounds like

1582
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:43,319
twilight language. Sounds like synthnicity to me.

1583
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:47,680
Speaker 3: He was an attending eurologist to Nazi prisoners at the

1584
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:48,840
Near Wow.

1585
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:52,720
Speaker 2: And he worked on the autopsy of JFK. Dude, look

1586
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:54,479
at this. We're putting a freaking.

1587
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 3: God a bo on this.

1588
01:39:56,039 --> 01:39:59,760
Speaker 2: We started talking about maybe he did the fake autopsy

1589
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:03,520
that they where they took J. B. Tibbet's body and

1590
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:10,000
switched it. We just found him with the helping Napoleon's penis. One.

1591
01:40:10,079 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 3: Look at that he has been Napoleon's penis this whole time.

1592
01:40:15,319 --> 01:40:19,159
Speaker 2: Dude, Well, look at how everything comes full circle.

1593
01:40:21,119 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 3: Whoa, dude, that's kind of creepy.

1594
01:40:26,119 --> 01:40:29,399
Speaker 2: What's this guy's name, Doctor Jacob Latimer.

1595
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:35,279
Speaker 3: John Latimer, doctor j John K Latimer.

1596
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:39,720
Speaker 2: John K. Latimer. Okay, cool, Yeah, that's gonna go on

1597
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:44,159
to my search history now too, so we're both implicated.

1598
01:40:44,279 --> 01:40:47,880
When the AI comes and tracks down our search history,

1599
01:40:48,119 --> 01:40:53,680
they'll know that we know about John Kingsley Latimer, who

1600
01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:58,920
was born at Mount Clemens, Michigan and died in t Neck,

1601
01:40:59,039 --> 01:41:06,159
New Jersey. And uh he was a Columbia University urologist. Wow.

1602
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:08,560
Speaker 3: Oh, it's kind of creepy. He wrote three hundred and

1603
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:12,920
seventy five papers helping to establish pediatric urology.

1604
01:41:15,039 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that is that is the type of person

1605
01:41:19,039 --> 01:41:24,800
that would probably have maybe some reason to play ball,

1606
01:41:25,239 --> 01:41:31,600
you know, compromised as they say. Wow, okay, really strange stuff, dude,

1607
01:41:32,039 --> 01:41:35,479
look at that. And he investigated the Kennedy assassination, which

1608
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:36,439
is interesting.

1609
01:41:36,039 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 3: Because non governmental people not related to the US government

1610
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:44,319
to examine the evidence of the autopsy huh.

1611
01:41:44,399 --> 01:41:48,359
Speaker 2: Interesting. Okay, so he probably wasn't involved in the plot then,

1612
01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:52,560
but maybe, yeah, maybe he he wrote a book about

1613
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:56,000
it too, Kennedy and Lincoln medical and ballistic comparisons to

1614
01:41:56,039 --> 01:42:00,199
their assassinations. Maybe this is the guy who popularized or

1615
01:42:00,239 --> 01:42:02,880
started that whole thing that can you know how people say,

1616
01:42:03,399 --> 01:42:07,720
you know Kennedy and Lincoln. There's all these weird links

1617
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:11,199
to their assassinations, like with the assassin and how one

1618
01:42:11,279 --> 01:42:15,680
was in a schoolhouse and shot and ran into a

1619
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:18,560
theater and then you know this, then Booth was in

1620
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:21,560
the theater, ran to a schoolhouse and all these other

1621
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:25,760
weird sync ups. Yeah, maybe maybe he was hearing about

1622
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:32,239
that too. Huh. The thorburn position with elbows extending armshold

1623
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:35,920
inwards as a neurological reaction to the bullet wound to

1624
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:39,600
his spine. Wow, okay, huh. So he definitely got shot

1625
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:43,359
in the neck, which goes against the theory about the

1626
01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:49,199
uh about the you know one shooter because the shot

1627
01:42:49,239 --> 01:42:53,359
that hit him in the neck they obscured by doing

1628
01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:58,600
a tracheotomy, a posts mortem tracheotomy, which makes no sense.

1629
01:42:59,199 --> 01:43:02,840
So yeah, wow, that's interesting. So we found a guy

1630
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:10,319
who like us, it's very interested in strange stuff, including

1631
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:13,760
Napoleon's penis. Well, all right, one, this is a great episode.

1632
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:18,039
As usual, we always find some crazy stuff to talk about,

1633
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:22,119
flat tires and all from.

1634
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:25,640
Speaker 3: The Illuminati Confirm RSS feed. I'm gonna put this out

1635
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:29,039
in an Illuminati confirmed episode, even though Chris isn't here,

1636
01:43:29,079 --> 01:43:33,960
which I'm sure Illuminati confirmed that would have probably blown

1637
01:43:34,039 --> 01:43:37,119
his mind. I'm sure he's never heard of Napoleon's penis either.

1638
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:43,119
I'm spreading awareness of mister Bonaparte's member alright, gold member, right,

1639
01:43:43,199 --> 01:43:46,359
the whole double O seven and everything like that, So right,

1640
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:48,720
we're gonna get to the bottom of it.

1641
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:56,319
Speaker 2: Right on, all right, gold member. James Bond boom Let's

1642
01:43:56,319 --> 01:44:02,319
Dominati confirmed and the thing you sent me, plus the

1643
01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:06,800
Shakespeare stuff until next time. You've been confirmed later on