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Speaker 1: For over twenty years, spirits have followed Olivia everywhere that

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she's lived, appearing in dreams, mirrors, closets, and even at

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work in the middle of the night. My name is

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Edwin and he is Olivia. True scary story.

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Speaker 2: Ever since I was very young, I first started having

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night terrors.

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Speaker 3: Every single night.

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Speaker 2: My mom would have to get up and actually take

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me outside because I would have these nighttaars so bad.

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I turned at three, That's when I really started seeing things.

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Granted it wasn't very much at first. That like, to

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my knowledge. I was over at my grandmother's house for

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the weekend, and then we were looking out her sliding

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patio door, and then all of a sudden, I seen

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him behind a tree. So I pointed at him, you know, saying, oh, look,

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there's Uncle Wayne.

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Speaker 3: That was his name.

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Speaker 2: He just passed away, and obviously nobody else could see it,

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so they just kind of shrugged it off, but were

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a little weary about it. Ever since that point, where

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I kind of turned three, the same thing. At her house.

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I would occasionally sleep in her bed, you know, if

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I was there on the weekends or something, But every

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single time I always seen this dark shadow standing in

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the doorway.

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Speaker 3: That scared me.

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Speaker 2: So bad that I'd always turn to the right away

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from the door and cover my head.

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Speaker 3: I was so scared of it.

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Speaker 2: My mother and I ended up moving towns back to

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my hometown. I guess now she met my little brother's

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dad at that time frame that how I remember only

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the details that included paranormal.

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Speaker 3: Every single night when I.

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Speaker 2: Slept, I would always see somebody in my doorway once again,

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or it'd be standing over me. It was this tall,

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just dark presence, and it was just watching over me,

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to the point where our dog at the time would

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always be on guard, always growling at it. Every single

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morning when it came time for me to get ready

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for preschool, you could just sometimes I would be brushing

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my teeth and there'd be a shadow just walk across,

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like our toy room it was very sketchy, or my

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cats would be on guard, like there was somebody in

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the corner of the toy room. Same thing with the

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dog always on guard. So then it got to the

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point where my mom started feeling unsafe. She was pregnant

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with my little brother at the time, so bringing a

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new child into the world, she did not really want

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to expose him to something that not even our animals

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are comfortable around.

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Speaker 3: So we eventually moved.

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Speaker 2: I think I was six when we moved, and we

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moved into this house right downtown of my hometown. There's

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this show on Nickelodeon, House of Anubis. We watched it

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every single you know, whatever Friday was. On the first

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night we were there, we were watching it in my

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little bedroom. It was thunderstorming real bad, so she went

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into the garage to get a bottle of water from

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the fridge.

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Speaker 3: And then came back inside.

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Speaker 2: But in the meantime, I remember looking out the window

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and I just see the lightning, you know, it was

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thunderstorming really bad, and I heard Olivia, Olivia Olivia. So

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I opened the garage door, thinking it was my mom,

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and she was like no, She was like, I'm literally

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just grabbing a bottle of water, like I'm fine. So

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then I was like, okay, that's weird. We go back inside.

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We go, you know, sit back on my bed. We're

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getting back into our show. Then all of a sudden,

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my door starts slamming, opening, closing, opening, closing, like slamming

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really hard. My mom gets up, She asked my stepdad

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if he's trying to play a prank on us or

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something right now, No, he's not. It wasn't him at all.

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He was with my little brother at the time, sleeping.

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So then we were like, okay, well, that's very strange.

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Why is the door just randomly opening and closing by itself?

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Speaker 3: But we brush it off because again we've.

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Speaker 2: Had paranormal experiences before, we don't really think much of it.

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I wake up in the morning time the next morning

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and it sounded like somebody was kicking the furnace, like

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the furnace vent right next to my bed, so all

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I hear is bang bang bang. It happened almost every

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single morning after the fact, I would say, maybe a

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week after. Our radio starts turning on, randomly turning off, randomly,

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changing channels, changing volumes, So at this point we definitely

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know there's something here. Everybody was sleeping, TV was off

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when we went to bed. All of a sudden, the

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TV's on in I think Mario or we Sports or

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something weird like that was on too, So.

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Speaker 3: I was like, okay, that's strange.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, we all went to bed very early, so nobody's

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out here, probably like thirty minutes later, you just hear

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the radio start blaring. Well at that point, again, everybody's sleeping.

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I just wanted to try and go get a cup

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of water. Now things started getting more physical, especially with me.

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I was eating McDonald's one night at our dinner table

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with my mom. All of a sudden, it felt like

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somebody came up behind me. You could feel that cold front,

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and then it just my hair flipped upward.

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Speaker 3: Turn around. Nobody's there.

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Speaker 2: So both of us at this point were like, okay,

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that what just happened. Apparently everything follows us. Then things

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start going missing around my house. My mom just bought

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half these toys for me, and they end up missing

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as soon as we get home, cannot find them anywhere.

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We don't have any animals. My brother's one years old.

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It's not like he's moving around much to grab things.

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My mom's definitely not throwing away my toys, I know

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that much. We discover in my room that I have

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an attic. Randomly, we find this attic, open it, but

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we have to move my bed to even open this attic.

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Speaker 3: We look up there there's just this.

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Speaker 2: It was one of those rugs that had like the

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race tracks or like the little towns and a race

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track or something on that. Very old, but it had

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one of those up there. That was the only thing

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in the attic. So at that point we're like, Okay,

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that's still a little strange, but obviously previous owners left it,

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so we start putting our stuff up there, all the

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storage and whatnot.

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Speaker 3: The attic was my main playplace at some point.

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Speaker 2: I was almost seven when I started doing this. I

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would go up in the attic and I would play

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with somebody. I couldn't tell you at the time who

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this person was, but there was somebody there and I

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was always playing with them. I would play ring around

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the rosie with my mom's like how Christmas figures.

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Speaker 3: It kind of.

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Speaker 2: Seemed like they were moving, or like there was somebody

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talking to me. I would sit up there hours on

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end because I thought I had a friend. My mom

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has always been very acceptant of anything spiritual, because again,

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she played the Luigi Bard for years on end, so

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she has a handful of her own experiences.

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Speaker 3: Same with my.

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Speaker 2: Father, my biological father. They're both very open and they

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want you to be open with what you feel, experience

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and think about certain situations. So that's what I've always done. Obviously,

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at this point, we knew somebody was present in the house.

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Speaker 3: The changing point for.

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Speaker 2: Me is I woke up I think maybe five o'clock,

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six o'clock. I'm not sure what times school started then,

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but I woke before everybody else because I was going

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to go sit in the living room or play or

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do whatever I was doing at that age. But the

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TV was on again and the Wii was too. I

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walk out there and there was this window kind of

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right next to our front door. As I'm walking down

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the hallway, there's just a full apparition of this man,

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and he's looking towards our car, but he's waiting on

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our porch.

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Speaker 3: Like he's picking up somebody.

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Speaker 2: He was wearing a baseball cap, and he was wearing

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this like red plaid shirt.

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Speaker 3: With blue jeans.

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Speaker 2: He had one of his hands, it was in his

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left pocket, and then he was just staring off at

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pretty much our driveway, which was to the right of

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our house.

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Speaker 3: So at that.

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Speaker 2: Point I'm just standing there, I'm staring at him. I'm

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so confused because again I've never seen a full apparition

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besides when I could barely remember it, so I'm just

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in shock.

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Speaker 3: Nobody else is awake. I'm just standing there.

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Speaker 2: So this man ends up looking at me on our

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porch and he's looking directly at me, but then it's

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like he walked off the porch.

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Speaker 3: And he was gone.

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Speaker 2: So then at that point I woke up my mom

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because I'm freaking out. I don't know what I just seen.

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I don't know what just happened. We obviously knew there

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was somebody there, but this is my first ever time

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actually seeing somebody. So she gets up, she calms me down.

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We go to school, just everything normal. Shortly after we

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moved out, I want to say, I'm not sure why exactly,

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but we ended up moving maybe fifteen minutes back out

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of town again. That house right from the start, I

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think it was a newer house, but stuff would always happen.

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Ten years later, I don't know exactly how or why,

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but my mom ended up meeting the previous owners and.

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Speaker 3: They talked about that house.

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Speaker 2: That family, their son ended up committing suicide like a

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year before. We moved in in my bedroom from the attic,

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so there was always somebody with me at that point.

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It was just very strange that, given we've been out

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of that house for over ten years. All of a

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sudden we found out the true story in who this

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man I was seeing and we were experiencing was. I

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don't know if he really if I was kind of

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like a baby.

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Speaker 3: Sister to him in a sense because there was nothing.

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Speaker 2: Ever bad, but he definitely wanted to make his presence

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very known. I don't remember any names, but I do

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know that my mom and I were extremely shit once

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we found out that knowledge. We didn't really know how

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to even process it. Honestly, it was very strange to

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be seven and a half eight years old and that

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same Halloween that we moved out of the house. That

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same year, on that Halloween, I went up to that house.

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They had I think a bowl of candy on their doorstep,

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but I decided at that age I wanted to go

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out of my way still and knock on their door,

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just to tell them that their house is haunted. They

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were a little confused, but who knows they might live

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there to this day.

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Speaker 3: I think I was in first grade.

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Speaker 2: We moved, yeah, fifteen minutes from town, but this time

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my mom and I stayed at at the house. The

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first night, all we had was literally a lamp. We

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had either I don't know she brought her bed yet

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or if it was just an air mattress. I'm assuming

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probably just an air mattress, but it was the middle

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of the night, at.

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Speaker 3: Least dark out. She brought her a wigi board.

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Speaker 2: Don't really know why, but those are the three items

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you brought on our first night. So my mom teaches

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me how to play the wigi board, so we do

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it attempt to.

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Speaker 3: All I remember about that.

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Speaker 2: Specific experience is she ended up yelling at me because

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I did not understand that you can't take your fingers

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off when you're playing. You always have to have two

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people playing. Me and her. We're gonna leave and go

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get pizza from either Little Caesars or this countryside store

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right down the road from us that had the best

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pizza ever. But either way, we are about to leave

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to go get pizza. After we're done playing a wigi board.

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I walk outside. I'm very excited to get pizza. I'm

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about to get in the car, and she's on the

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porch locking the door up. But then I look at

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the house and this woman walked by my mom's bedroom window.

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Speaker 3: Her lamp was on in there, but she was obviously

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on the porch.

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Speaker 2: Were the only two people in this house right now,

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with literally nothing else. This woman just walks by her

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window and I was like, okay, like maybe she's inside still,

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so I'm about to run back inside. But then, you know,

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that's when I see her literally on the porch. So

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once she gets in the car, I bring it up

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and be like I just seen a woman in the window,

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Like what's what's going on. She pretty much brushed it

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off and was like, Oh, that's no, you didn't there's

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nobody here. Fast forward, when the rest of the family

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moves in. My little brother I think had his own room.

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Speaker 3: It's time.

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Speaker 2: He was maybe three now, I don't know, but all

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I know is that house. I don't know if it

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was the same woman I seen walk past that window exactly,

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or if it was somebody else there was. This woman

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started off in my doorway. She would stare at me

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while I sleep. It got to the point where again

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I was starting to get a little scared. But then

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she moved into my closet. She would watch me from

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either in front of my closet or in my closet

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every single night. I started getting so scared that I

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had a little kitty pop up tent. I put it

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on my bed, and that's what I'd sleep in. If

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I couldn't see that closet, I was fine. I could

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sleep in my room. If I see in that closet,

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I could not sleep in my room.

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Speaker 3: I was not.

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Speaker 2: There's no way if I thought this lady was gonna

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come get me. I started getting around ten eleven, maybe

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all of a sudden, that shadow man that I'd seen

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when I was younger in my grandparents' house every single

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time I was there, and the shadow man that would

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watch me when we were in this house thirty minutes

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out of town it was a farmhouse, too, would again

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watch me from the doorway. This just tall, dark presence

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started being there every single night. There'd be sometimes where

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again I'd start getting so scared I would have to

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go to my mom's bedroom and sleep. But I'd getting

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to the age where you know, I probably shouldn't be

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sleeping with my mom because I think I'm old enough.

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Around the time I was thirteen is when the dreams,

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the unexplained dreams that I started having where I could

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predict what was going to happen. I started seeing different

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people that I'd never seen before in my dreams, and

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I just started having dreams like a lot more frequently.

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Didn't understand any of it. One night, I had a

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couple of my at the time best friends over. My

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mom had this date that she didn't want at the

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house anymore, so she thought it was a bright idea

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to bring the Ouiji board out and have all of

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us play it, hoping it would scare them away.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't really tell you why, but yeah, that's what we did.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we closed the portal with that board

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at all, because again, we're only probably middle schoolers at

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this time. We don't know what we're doing, definitely, and

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she just had other intentions using this thing. But my

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friends kind of liked playing it. They thought it was

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kind of cool for me. Following after is when the

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dreams started getting really, really, really scary. I never experienced

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sleep paralysis up until then, besides when I was a

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baby and couldn't really remember them. This is like my

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first rememberable sleep paralysis experience i've had. I remember my

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soul like left my body when I was asleep. All

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I could just see is all these bad people around

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my house. There were demons, and some of them would

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just be orbs like dark black masses. Other ones would

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have kind of like they would never have a full body,

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but it was just like a grayish face, and then

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it had shift into like a mist type. In this dream,

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I had holy water and I think I probably had

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a rosary too, if I remember correctly. I walked throughout

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the house and I was blessing the house, and I

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got rid of all those spirits in that meantime, Like

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I just literally in my dream watched them poof away.

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Speaker 3: So from when I woke up, Yes.

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Speaker 2: It was a very very very scary dream, but when

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I woke up, I'm pretty sure the house felt like

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a lot lighter. So not only was that my first

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sleep paralysis experience, but it was my first just weird, vivid,

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unexplainable dream I ever had. I never understood it, but

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again I told my mom about it, we moved past it.

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The following week is when things really started happening at

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that house. Things did start falling off the walls, things

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had start There was so much there at so one

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little time. It just felt crowded, but not by good

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spirits at all. I always is seeing the shadow Man

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in my doorway and then at the same time these

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night tears every single night, but they were sleep paralysis

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night tears that I actually can remember. The worst one

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of them all was when somebody showed me each individual

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layer of hell, so I had to sit there and

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go through each individual layer of hell one by one.

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Speaker 3: I seen the hell.

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Speaker 2: Dogs with three heads, I seen people burning alive, and

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then I just seen like a pit of dead people

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and fire.

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Speaker 3: That was the third layer. It was to this day,

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it gives me chills. It was so scary. I woke

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up crying.

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Speaker 2: And worst of all, I'm pretty sure I got stuck

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in that dream, so I had a hard time even

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waking back up. Honestly, terrifies me the most about that

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because not only did I see each individual layer of hell,

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but my mom that same exact night woke up in

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like the fumes of a fire, so like the yeah,

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like the gases that comes off of a fire.

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Speaker 3: Was at the end of her bed.

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Speaker 2: She woke up, couldn't tell you what time, middle of

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the night, probably three in the morning if I'm guessing.

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There's these fumes literally at the foot of her bed,

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and then from the left side of her bed top

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corner where she always slept that's where her nightstand was.

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She heard this deep, just out of this world voice

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be like, get out. So at this point she's probably

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internally freaking out really bad, and especially if it paired

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with my exact dream event to the tee, that's very scary.

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So I could only imagine how she's freaking out. But

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she also is trying to protect me and tell me

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it's okay and comfort me. I was shaking. My anxiety

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was so high. I went into my mom's room and

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I tried going back to bed there because it's literally

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probably three o'clock in the morning when I wake up

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and I actually look at the time, so I'm freaking out.

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Speaker 3: She calms me down.

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Speaker 2: I go back to bed for a little bit. We

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moved past that dream. I don't know why we didn't

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save to our house at the time. Probably would have

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been a smart idea, but we didn't. She starts hearing

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somebody saying mom in my voice.

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Speaker 3: That's not me.

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Speaker 2: Either I'm not at the house or I'm asleep taking

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a nap, and same with me. I keep hearing my

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name being called from her voice, but she again is

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not there or she's busy doing her own thing. So

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we started getting the sense that there was a minute

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at her house. She ended up having a spirit in

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her shed. I remember her yelling at the spirit, telling

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him to get out because he would always bother her

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and just I don't know what he wanted, but I mean,

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there was somebody in the shed. Very strange to say,

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but there was a spirit in there, and it occasionally

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would come in through a back door. She's seen him

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a couple times. He was wearing a white tank top

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and like just blue jeans. I don't know if he

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meant any harm or not, but he was just very pushy.

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Speaker 3: She did not like it whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: I would say, I'm about fifteen at this time, six

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turning sixteen, almost her house. There's just something about her

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house to this day is not right, and she and

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everybody else who's been there will say so themselves. There's

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one time I ended up having another sleep paralysis dream.

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This dream was kind of unlike others. It was very

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strange to me. I thought, while this person walked through

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my window. He was a cowboy, had a cowboy hat on,

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but he had a shotgun in his arms. Walked through

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my window like literally entered through my window and walked

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into my mom's room. My mom woke up three o'clock

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in the morning. She felt presence there, but it was

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not a good presence. So I don't know exactly why

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I was fine and she wasn't. The only thing I

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can think of is that she's my spiritual protector. My

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dreams still just keep getting revveed up and rebbed up.

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They're just getting so strange. I've had dreams where these

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random people are starting to come through that I I

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don't recognize in a language I don't even know. I

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took Spanish class in high school, but it's not like

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I was a fluent Spanish speaker whatsoever. And I had

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a full dream, full conversation with somebody in Spanish in

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my dream. I'm assuming they just wanted to cross over,

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so they were coming to me, because at this point,

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I'm starting to realize that I think there's something more

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going on with me as well. But then I started

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seeing different cultural gods and goddesses. My birthday that following year,

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I would say seventeenth birthday. Maybe I'm not one hundred

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percent sure it was either my sixteenth or seventeenth. I

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literally had a dream where every single god from every

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single religion. We were in these clouds and they were

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celebrating my birthday and they were giving me different Bibles

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and just different cultural practices things. It was very very strange,

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but again brushed it off because at this point I'm

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so desensitized to it. Things still didn't stop there. Two

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of my closest friends would stay at my house, and

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the more they stayed at my house, the more they'd see.

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They would start seeing shadows in the doorway and seeing

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things move or fall off the walls or orbs, even

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sometimes floating through the air. There was this one time,

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specifically where I went third point of view in a

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dream and my soul left my body and I was

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standing in the doorway and I was watching me and

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my friend's sleep. It was very very strange, but she

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ended up waking up in that timeframe and she's seen

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the shadow at the door, except this time it was me.

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She was just seeing my soul.

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Speaker 3: At the doorway, which to this day I.

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Speaker 2: Think is very weird because I've never experienced that again where.

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Speaker 3: Somebody's seen my soul.

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Speaker 2: When I turned eighteen, I ended up moving out of

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my mother's house with my now fiance, and me and

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him ended up moving into our own little place, probably

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like half an hour out of town. This place that

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we specifically moved into. My dad told me it's a

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twenty years prior to us moving in, there was a

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fire there, apparently in the exact cabin that we were

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staying in, but somebody died. So I was like, Okay,

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well that's whatever, until this lady, she was the one

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who ended up dying in the fire, came to me

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in my dreams when I was living there, telling me

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she literally just I went third point of view in

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my dream, and she wanted to talk about my dogs,

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my animals, and how much she liked them.

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Speaker 3: She wanted to talk about how.

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Speaker 2: Me and my fiance were really cute, and how she

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just absolutely loved our life and our life together. And

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then I got to the point where I was like, look,

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I don't know your name, but I'm trying to sleep

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right now. I appreciate everything you're telling me, and you're

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saying about my family and my life, but I'm trying.

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Speaker 3: To go back to bed.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I did not just enter a dream world

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to have conversation right now. I'm trying to sleep. But

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then when I told her that she still proceeded to

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go on. I had to tell her that she was

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starting to annoy me because I just wanted to go

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back to a peaceful sleep, even though I again was

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already asleep.

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Speaker 3: It was just dreaming.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to go back to apparently a blank, black

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sleeping realm. I don't know. I kind of felt bad,

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but that was not the first time or the last

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time I seen her. I ended up seeing her again,

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like right before we moved out. She pretty much again

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was just wanting to say how much she likes our animals,

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how well me and my fiancee are doing. She definitely

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just watched over us. I think she enjoyed watching over us,

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and maybe we were like a grandchild to her.

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Speaker 3: Who knows.

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Speaker 2: Very very sweet, but yeah, I pretty much told her

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in my next dream that we were leaving that after

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we left that house, I don't know if it was

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strange or not, but that house ended up catching on fire.

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Every single thing in that house, besides we left maybe

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a couple of things outside that were still ours everything,

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but those burnt. It was like stupid little things, But

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00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,759
those are the only couple items that were still there

481
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:45,440
from that fire.

482
00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:47,039
Speaker 3: It was very weird. To us.

483
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,559
Speaker 2: My fiance and I moved into our current house. He

484
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,960
believes very much so in all that spiritual stuff. Everything.

485
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,519
He believes me. When I tell him all like about

486
00:30:00,599 --> 00:30:03,839
some of my dreams or some things I see, he

487
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,160
believes at all. But he does not have any dreams

488
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,680
or anything himself. One thing I realized very quickly when

489
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,480
we got together was that I don't have dreams when

490
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,000
I'm around him at all. If I do, they're solely

491
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:21,039
good and solely good people. I don't have sleep paralysis

492
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:26,000
around him whatsoever, not once, but when it comes to

493
00:30:26,119 --> 00:30:30,680
him going on a work trip or he at one

494
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,160
point would leave for work before I got up. As

495
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,640
soon as he left the house for work, I would

496
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,720
have sleep paralysis every single time. One of my dogs,

497
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,240
he would warn me before I went into one. He

498
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,000
would wake me up, and he'd be growling at our

499
00:30:47,519 --> 00:30:52,240
bathroom and just growling really deep, really low. He did

500
00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:55,559
not like whatever he saw some of these sleep paralysis.

501
00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,880
I don't think I've ever experienced anything like this. They

502
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,880
were getting more up close and personal, and they were

503
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,640
just getting very dark, very quick. There was nothing I

504
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:12,759
could really do about it either. The first dream I

505
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,960
had here somebody was standing right over me like I mean,

506
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,079
their head was on top of my head pretty much.

507
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:24,039
And I always will try to reach for the dogs

508
00:31:24,079 --> 00:31:28,000
when I enter sleep paralysis because I know that my

509
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,359
dog has named Cedar, that's the one who can always

510
00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:34,920
see things. I know that Cedar can always either growl

511
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,680
at them or help me get out of sleep paralysis.

512
00:31:38,039 --> 00:31:40,960
But again, it's not like I can actually move. My

513
00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:44,519
body had to adapt with having this every single time

514
00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:48,000
my fiance would leave the house. And now my body

515
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,640
can wake itself up. I have to physically shake my

516
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,559
body to wake up unless somebody else comes and saves

517
00:31:55,559 --> 00:31:58,319
me in my dream and there's this random voice.

518
00:31:58,039 --> 00:31:58,839
Speaker 3: Telling me to wake up.

519
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: That's the only way I found this picture on Facebook.

520
00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:12,279
It was literally this nineteen hundred's picture of a random guy.

521
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,400
It was at an estate sale. I ended up reaching

522
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,680
out to this lady. I bought it before I even

523
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,039
seen the picture in person or anything. I needed this picture.

524
00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:23,759
All I felt from this picture was just protection. I

525
00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:26,799
needed this picture in my house, so she lets move

526
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:27,079
by it.

527
00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 3: I go pick it up.

528
00:32:28,359 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: I had this picture in my car. I forgot the

529
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,200
man who's in the picture overnight got in my car.

530
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,799
The next day, I had to stop by my mom's house.

531
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,599
On my way back home from my mom's house, I

532
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,960
remember Come Together by the Beatles was on the radio,

533
00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:46,839
but then it started cutting out. It started sounding like

534
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,200
somebody wanted to come through and talk and they were intervening.

535
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,640
And then at that point I remembered I have this

536
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,759
picture in my trunk. I needed to take him out.

537
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,759
I felt bad, got home, took him out, hung them up.

538
00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:04,960
Ever since we got him, I did research on ancestry

539
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,480
and everything found him, found his grave, everything about him.

540
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,559
His name's Martin and he died at twenty one years

541
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,480
old in nineteen oh nine. He was a train conductor

542
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,839
and he got ran over by his own train. I

543
00:33:20,839 --> 00:33:23,319
don't know if it's because he was like he's the

544
00:33:23,359 --> 00:33:26,680
same age as my fiance and I that he feels

545
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,880
the need to protect us.

546
00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 3: But he is a very intelligent spirit.

547
00:33:31,599 --> 00:33:36,319
Speaker 2: He definitely will make it known in our house if

548
00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:39,880
you talk to him and ask him to move. I

549
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:44,359
have dried flowers hung up on like our ceiling beam,

550
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,160
and if you ask him to move one, he will

551
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,720
literally twist it he or he'll swing it, do something.

552
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,359
If I ask him to move the windshimes, he will

553
00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:58,400
to make it known. Or if I ask him his

554
00:33:58,519 --> 00:34:01,559
opinion on something like a yes or no question, asked

555
00:34:01,599 --> 00:34:04,599
him to move the windtime for yes, flowers for no,

556
00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:11,840
or something like that, he absolutely will. I love buying

557
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:19,199
vintage furniture, or like cedar chests that still have their

558
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:24,719
authentication paper and whatnot. Just like very good, sturdy, beautiful furniture.

559
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:28,719
So I ended up buying this dresser vanity thing from

560
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,079
an estate sale. I opened my vanity a week probably

561
00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:35,039
after I cleaned it out.

562
00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 3: I was getting my brush out, about to brush my hair.

563
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:44,119
Speaker 2: And I noticed this nineteen eighty one bright orange Neon

564
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,800
Garfield Halloween pencil just came out of nowhere.

565
00:34:48,119 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 3: It's like it literally it was hidden somewhere.

566
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I thought it was very strange

567
00:34:55,119 --> 00:35:00,239
because I have seen this so much throughout my life.

568
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,599
My grandmother was teacher and she had a million of

569
00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:07,719
these pencils. I automatically knew it was probably my great grandmother.

570
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:13,039
I was thinking about her a couple days prior. Usually

571
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,880
she will to show us a sign that she's there.

572
00:35:17,519 --> 00:35:20,960
She'll send us bingo chips or like some very strange things.

573
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,320
One time I found a bingo chip literally in the

574
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,800
middle of the woods. It was very strange, but those

575
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,440
are the types of signs she decided to give us.

576
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,000
So I ended up calling my mother later that day.

577
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,840
I guess she woke up that same like the previous night,

578
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,480
to her mother standing in her bathroom doorway. So I

579
00:35:43,519 --> 00:35:50,480
was like, okay at that point, that's definitely her. I

580
00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:53,360
work at a medical manufacturing company.

581
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 3: I work on night shifts. I was back working.

582
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: On one of the machines and it's like a little

583
00:36:01,039 --> 00:36:03,960
more secluded from everybody else in the shop. We have

584
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:07,159
like a scrap metal room right next to the machine

585
00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:12,519
I was working on. I seen a black shadow walk

586
00:36:12,559 --> 00:36:15,840
across the room when the lights were off. I look

587
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,039
at the time and it was three twenty eight in

588
00:36:20,119 --> 00:36:25,199
the morning. So I'm like, okay, that's not very strange

589
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,159
because again I'm working odd hours, but I was like whatever.

590
00:36:29,679 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 3: I then see this.

591
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,039
Speaker 2: Brown mass come out of that room go behind one

592
00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:39,719
of the machines. Right after I seen that, it hits

593
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:45,159
like three point thirty and my left shoulder and my

594
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,280
left arm hair starts sticking up, and so does my neck,

595
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,960
and I'm like I'm about to be touched. I already

596
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,880
know it because I know that that's what that feeling

597
00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:59,880
feels like. And then it feels like somebody literally grab

598
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,599
my shoulder and grips it. Immediately after I thought that, again,

599
00:37:05,679 --> 00:37:09,119
It's three thirty in the morning at work. My break

600
00:37:09,159 --> 00:37:12,880
time's at three thirty in the morning, So I'm like, Okay,

601
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,239
I need to get out of here quickly. I'm freaking

602
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,000
out right now because I don't know what just happened.

603
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:22,719
The whole rest of the night, I was on guard,

604
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,639
did not want to go back to that workstation whatsoever.

605
00:37:26,119 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 3: I was on guard.

606
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: On the way home, I thought, I've seen everything and

607
00:37:29,519 --> 00:37:35,280
everything possible. It definitely paranoid me to the max. I'm

608
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,199
not the only one who's ever experienced anything. There A

609
00:37:38,199 --> 00:37:41,559
lot of people who I've talked to, they always see

610
00:37:41,559 --> 00:37:44,320
this like little girl who will be standing on some

611
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,480
of our stairs at work, or they'll see this older

612
00:37:47,559 --> 00:37:52,360
man who again will be like somewhere upstairs or kind

613
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,119
of by that scrap room I was talking about. But

614
00:37:55,159 --> 00:37:59,400
no matter what, everybody, even on the other shifts, I

615
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,039
don't know. I don't know if it's the atmosphere or

616
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,679
who knows, the chemicals in the air, but everybody you

617
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,800
ask who works there think they see people out of

618
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,360
the corner of their eyes at all times when they don't.

619
00:38:12,639 --> 00:38:17,119
Nobody's ever there ever. It is so strange but so eerie.

620
00:38:17,639 --> 00:38:21,639
Speaker 3: It just it gives me chills.

621
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 2: It actually just happened two days ago, but my fiance's

622
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,480
friend came over and spent the night.

623
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, literally on the weekend.

624
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 2: My stomach started like cramping up and feeling weird. As

625
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,920
soon as she shut up. Didn't really think much of it.

626
00:38:43,159 --> 00:38:45,920
Then it stopped as soon as I laid down in bed,

627
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,000
and so I was like, all right, I told my fiance,

628
00:38:48,079 --> 00:38:51,800
I don't think my body is liking who's here right now?

629
00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:56,880
Like something's weird. I ended up having a dream. This

630
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:02,039
specific dream was we were taking our dogs. His dad

631
00:39:02,119 --> 00:39:05,840
wanted to have us come over and bring our dogs

632
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,440
to run around, so we did. Then I remember one

633
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,519
of my dogs running out.

634
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: Of the woods.

635
00:39:11,519 --> 00:39:14,559
Speaker 2: I was still in the woods, but it was dark out.

636
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,840
I remember turning around. In this dream, all of a sudden,

637
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:24,280
this red eyed demon figure came up to me very

638
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,519
very quickly and either told me to leave or get out.

639
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:30,199
I think it was get out. It screamed at me

640
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,519
so I sprinted out of those woods as fast as

641
00:39:33,559 --> 00:39:36,159
I could. I got all the dogs back in the car.

642
00:39:36,519 --> 00:39:39,199
All of us were back in the car. My fiance's

643
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,719
friend and his dad were I don't know if you'd

644
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,320
necessarily waped smile like that horror movie, but him and

645
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:52,119
his dad were doing that like specific just creepy scary.

646
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 3: Smile in that dream. And then I.

647
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: Woke up, and I woke up freaking out, and I

648
00:39:58,039 --> 00:39:59,920
was too scared to check the time, so I just

649
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,199
stood there, bright eyed, scared.

650
00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 3: Eventually I went back to bed.

651
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,639
Speaker 2: I woke up probably seven o'clock in the morning, came

652
00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:10,480
out to the living room with the dogs. His friend

653
00:40:10,519 --> 00:40:13,000
wakes up, comes in the living room because he has

654
00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:16,360
to leave. My stomach got that same exact feeling. It

655
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,719
was just cramping. So then at that point I was like,

656
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:22,960
my body, bad vibes are here. There's bad vibes here

657
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:29,119
in whatever is attached to either him or his parents' dad,

658
00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:33,159
whomever is warning me something's going on. So then I

659
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,559
ended up having to sage my house this weekend because

660
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:37,679
there's something not right.

661
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,599
Speaker 3: I've always wondered.

662
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,599
Speaker 2: I've always felt like I was a portal everywhere we've

663
00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:49,280
moved no matter with who I've always just there's always

664
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,360
been something there.

665
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 3: So I didn't know if I was the portal. I

666
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,079
didn't know if I.

667
00:40:55,199 --> 00:41:00,159
Speaker 2: Was like a grim reaper or medium, psychic medium. There's

668
00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:04,280
something special about me that's very unexplainable. Both my parents

669
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,039
will say it. Everybody in my life knows it when

670
00:41:08,039 --> 00:41:12,119
I say something like about my dreams or something that happened.

671
00:41:12,159 --> 00:41:15,360
Like I'm speaking truthfully, I just found out a couple

672
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:21,599
of nights ago that I have this gift. It's called psychopomp.

673
00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:26,400
It's not like a medium. I'm not a medium, which

674
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,320
it actually makes one hundred and ten percent to me

675
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,119
because I've never felt like I was fully just a

676
00:41:32,159 --> 00:41:36,440
medium whatsoever. The reason half my dreams and half my

677
00:41:36,519 --> 00:41:40,760
occurrences in life were the way they were was because

678
00:41:41,519 --> 00:41:45,199
this gift I have, I can go into the different depths.

679
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,559
There's been previous dreams I've had where I have taken

680
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:57,159
dogs helped cross them over. This one extremely exotic dream

681
00:41:57,159 --> 00:42:01,480
I've had my aunt she was middle of a hurricane

682
00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:04,679
in Florida, and my grandma also lives in Florida, but

683
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,079
she was visiting Italy at the time, and she text

684
00:42:08,119 --> 00:42:10,480
me at three o'clock in the morning, I wake up.

685
00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:11,199
Speaker 3: I see the text.

686
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,679
Speaker 2: My aunt lost her dog in the middle of the hurricane,

687
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,440
and it's like in the middle of the worst of

688
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:20,840
it all. I was like, oh, my God, I wonder

689
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,400
where he is or what happened to her. I ended

690
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,480
up going back to bed and it was three o'clock

691
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,840
in the morning. I had school the next day. Then

692
00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:32,239
I actually happened to have this dream. My soul left

693
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,199
my body. I traveled to Florida in the middle of

694
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:36,960
the hurricane.

695
00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:38,119
Speaker 3: I found this dog.

696
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 2: I found my aunt's dog, and she was laying right

697
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,519
next to this fence. But she was so tired. So

698
00:42:46,559 --> 00:42:50,320
when I picked her up, she was so so tired.

699
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,719
And I walked her up these stairs, and I mean

700
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,199
they were like beautiful stairs. My aunt was there. Whoever

701
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,280
my aunt was staying with at the time was also

702
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,480
there and they seen her before I walked her up

703
00:43:03,519 --> 00:43:06,559
the stairs even further. So I ended up waking up

704
00:43:06,599 --> 00:43:09,599
from the stream. I told my grandma about it. My

705
00:43:09,679 --> 00:43:13,239
grandma proceeds to call the people my aunt was staying

706
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,639
with at the time, told her about this stream, told

707
00:43:16,639 --> 00:43:20,800
her to check there. This dog was in the exact spot.

708
00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:24,840
I told them it was this dog. Yes, ended up

709
00:43:25,039 --> 00:43:28,679
drowning in the hurricane, but I ended up crossing her

710
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,800
body over all the way, thousands of miles away. I

711
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,960
ended up learning ultimately that the gift I have is

712
00:43:38,679 --> 00:43:43,719
I'm able to go in different various depths. Whether it's animals,

713
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:48,079
people that are not very good people, or the good people,

714
00:43:48,559 --> 00:43:52,960
I'm always helping them, whether spirit ruled or not. People

715
00:43:53,039 --> 00:43:57,360
just want to come through to either get help crossing over,

716
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,800
or they have a message for somebody, or they just

717
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,360
need help in general. I guess that's my gift, as

718
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,800
I help people no matter who or what crossover. I

719
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:14,039
guess I'm a sole traveler. I have never understood the

720
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whole twenty one years i've been alive why these things

721
00:44:18,039 --> 00:44:20,679
were happening to me, because I'll hear, you know, some

722
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,880
of the psychics or some of the mediums or whomever

723
00:44:24,599 --> 00:44:28,320
speak about their gifts, or even like with your show,

724
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,280
I'll hear certain people sit like talk about their experiences,

725
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,480
and I resonate a lot with half of the experiences

726
00:44:36,519 --> 00:44:39,760
they've had, or I've had my own experience, but none

727
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,480
of it's made sense because I thought I had so

728
00:44:42,599 --> 00:44:46,280
many different gifts that I just didn't understand anything. But

729
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,119
I guess with the psychopomp, your main communication and your

730
00:44:50,199 --> 00:44:53,360
soul traveling is through your dreams. Everything's pretty much through

731
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,599
your dreams. Yes, you can have bits and pieces of

732
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,719
different you know, mediumship, and I can talk to some people,

733
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,440
but pretty much everybody wants to just cross over.

734
00:45:05,079 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 3: So like the cowboy.

735
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,039
Speaker 2: That came through my window and went into my mom's room,

736
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he just wanted to cross over and I was helping him.

737
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So then that just leads me back to am I

738
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really the portal or not?

739
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Speaker 3: Literally?

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00:45:19,159 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 2: Everything that's happened in my life is now starting to

741
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,400
piece back together with that one definition that I learned

742
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:26,800
literally two nights ago.

743
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Speaker 1: Olivia, thank you so much for sharing your experiences with

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00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,679
the rest of us here at the True Scary Story

745
00:45:43,679 --> 00:45:48,960
Community was very interesting to me. Learning about psychopops, these beings,

746
00:45:49,039 --> 00:45:54,039
these things like this ability I guess for being able

747
00:45:54,079 --> 00:45:57,960
to help people cross over. Now this I found this

748
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,079
particularly interesting because just last night I was actually at

749
00:46:01,079 --> 00:46:05,599
this storytelling night where someone from it's called his name

750
00:46:05,639 --> 00:46:09,239
is Feppo from both gasparan Ordomia, which is a Spanish

751
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:14,920
it's a Mexican show in Spanish about paranormal things, you know, UFOs,

752
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:20,079
the spiritual stuff, witchcraft, all that, And there was this

753
00:46:20,119 --> 00:46:23,480
one story that stood out because I mentioned this exact thing,

754
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,639
but in a different I mean a different way, but

755
00:46:25,639 --> 00:46:29,719
it was this idea. So the thing was that this

756
00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:33,599
person had a roommate and the roommate performed I guess,

757
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:36,519
did a curse on them. And it turns out in

758
00:46:36,519 --> 00:46:40,079
Europe they had they would do this by cutting off

759
00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:43,039
ahead of a horse, aiming it at somebody's house and

760
00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:46,519
wishing for their death, as in the person's house, the

761
00:46:46,519 --> 00:46:49,719
one who's living in there, right, So they couldn't find

762
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,559
a horse, you know, So what they did was they

763
00:46:51,639 --> 00:46:53,599
used the head of a dog. I know, it's really

764
00:46:53,679 --> 00:46:58,119
it's terrible, it's really dark, but it brought along why

765
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,800
the horse was there. The reason why the horse was

766
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,079
there is because in I guess in the culture where

767
00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:09,360
this person was from, the horror symbolizes or is a

768
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,800
type of psychopomp. So they help people cross over. They're

769
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:17,360
like guides, you know. They you pass away and they

770
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,599
guide you into wherever else you go once you die.

771
00:47:22,119 --> 00:47:24,760
Very interesting, Like I'm telling you, there's much more to this,

772
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,679
right obviously, I want to be. I'm going to be

773
00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:29,199
searching this up to find even more about it. And

774
00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:34,159
in this aspect of you taking the role of that

775
00:47:35,199 --> 00:47:39,199
and being able to even see the different stages or

776
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,639
levels of hell, I found that super interesting. And I

777
00:47:43,679 --> 00:47:45,159
know that for some of us, you know, when we're

778
00:47:45,159 --> 00:47:49,440
listening to stories and we talk about dreams, we kind

779
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,719
of shut off, like we think, Okay, if it's just

780
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,639
a dream, it's just a dream. But a lot of

781
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,719
us are not aware of how easy it is for

782
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,480
us to get messages while we're sleeping. Obviously there's a

783
00:48:01,519 --> 00:48:03,719
lot of research that has to go into it, a

784
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,960
lot of experiences that we listen to here in this

785
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,199
in this show as well that mentioned just how powerful

786
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,679
dreams can be. I think the one that really stood

787
00:48:11,679 --> 00:48:14,559
out to me was the dog, you know, the hurricane,

788
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:17,679
that you were able to see the dog, held the dog,

789
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:22,719
and then point out where the dog's body was and

790
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,400
to actually have it be there. I find that really powerful,

791
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,199
you know, And we can have things like that that

792
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,920
you know there's an event, we confirm it through other

793
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,119
people's I guess eyes, like they where we go and

794
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:38,480
find the dog. So defies all what you would call

795
00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:42,039
logical explanation, right, even though sometimes the paranormal can be

796
00:48:42,119 --> 00:48:45,840
pretty logical. And I'm sure I'm gonna get questions about this,

797
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,840
about the Wigi board, and there's a lot of people

798
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,719
who have very strong opinions about it in the comments.

799
00:48:52,519 --> 00:48:54,400
I see them all the time through emails and everything,

800
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,519
like never ever mess with the Wigi board. But for

801
00:48:57,599 --> 00:49:00,400
you and your family, this was an everyday thing, like

802
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,199
as in, this was a very common thing. Even imagine

803
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:08,000
your parents being so open and aware of the spiritual

804
00:49:08,039 --> 00:49:10,480
realm and everything that comes with it in order to

805
00:49:10,519 --> 00:49:12,960
introduce you to this. I wonder if that played a role.

806
00:49:13,679 --> 00:49:15,719
I'm curious to know if if anyone else out there

807
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,679
thinks the same, because I feel that your family having

808
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,719
and we talked about this a little bit over the call,

809
00:49:21,159 --> 00:49:24,039
but your family being so open to that really opened

810
00:49:24,079 --> 00:49:27,719
you up to this and being able to become aware

811
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,119
of what's around us. Again, I always repeat this as

812
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,440
my theory about what we see as a paranormal, which

813
00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:36,079
is things are always there, flowing in and out, Things

814
00:49:36,119 --> 00:49:38,440
are always all around us all the time, but not

815
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:43,039
all of us have like really refined that sensor I guess,

816
00:49:43,079 --> 00:49:46,440
like the sense to be able to sense those things,

817
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,239
so we kind of overlook it, we ignore it. We

818
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:54,280
sometimes witness something and just completely be like, well, it's nothing,

819
00:49:54,639 --> 00:49:56,239
you know, and then we just move on because we

820
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,239
can't have we don't have an explanation to it doesn't

821
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,480
affect us that much, so we just move onward from it.

822
00:50:01,199 --> 00:50:03,119
I don't know, just just my thought and all this.

823
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,639
But also the story about the photograph with the train conductor,

824
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,679
it was a very it was strangely comforting, you know,

825
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:20,360
being able to I guess compare, not compare, but like

826
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:25,280
bring along this story that has this really dark origin

827
00:50:26,199 --> 00:50:29,800
and then have that entity that spirit turn out to

828
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,599
be somebody who's helping and watching over you. And it

829
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,480
really resonated here because it goes along with another thing

830
00:50:36,519 --> 00:50:39,760
that we talked about over the call, which is being

831
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:46,719
able to guide spirits or lost souls without judgment, right

832
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,039
like they suffered a really dark death or if they

833
00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:53,199
were maybe in life there were bad people, good people,

834
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,920
like it doesn't matter, like you still you can offer that.

835
00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:00,000
It's a very it's a new take. Like it really

836
00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:01,599
made me wonder after this, when you know, when I'm

837
00:51:01,639 --> 00:51:05,440
taking notes after the calls, I just couldn't wrap my

838
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,320
mind around this, you know, so I definitely feel like

839
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:13,039
I need to look more into I guess, more experiences

840
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:16,480
of this. So if you're listening to this now, someone

841
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,039
else out there, wherever you may be in the world,

842
00:51:19,559 --> 00:51:22,280
and you experience something like this, or you feel like

843
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,559
the dreams don't really have a point as in maybe

844
00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:28,760
there you think of them as just dreamed and there's

845
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,800
no real message coming through, but you have that idea

846
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:37,480
that maybe maybe it means something. Please get in touch

847
00:51:37,519 --> 00:51:40,239
with me reach out. You can email me Edwin at

848
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,039
scarystory dot com. You can also find the contact form

849
00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:45,960
over at true scarystory dot com, so you can get

850
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,920
in touch and we can share your story. Even if

851
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,880
you just want to talk about it at first, you

852
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,000
want to email back and forth a few times, we

853
00:51:52,079 --> 00:51:55,199
can do that. That way we get an idea of

854
00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:00,360
what this means, Like are there is there anything else

855
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,840
in dreams that we're not aware of right now? Very

856
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,880
interesting to find out more about it. My last point

857
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,840
here that I have written down just in some of

858
00:52:10,119 --> 00:52:12,239
some of the things that I thought of when we

859
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:17,000
were recording this call. What's about the animals, the pets, cats, dogs,

860
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,559
you know. They say that they have a certain kind

861
00:52:20,599 --> 00:52:24,320
of ability to be able to spot ghost spirits other

862
00:52:24,639 --> 00:52:27,000
things out there, and they give us signs, you know,

863
00:52:27,039 --> 00:52:30,039
by growling, by staring, by just sitting and being calm

864
00:52:30,119 --> 00:52:32,639
or being scared. Sometimes they're so stressed style that they

865
00:52:32,679 --> 00:52:37,800
even die. And sometimes the owners like the they say, yeah,

866
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,760
you know what, something has been going on in the house,

867
00:52:40,159 --> 00:52:43,920
so very interesting thing there that I feel like a

868
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,000
lot of us might have overlooked just because it seems

869
00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:48,400
like a common thing, but when it's actually happening to you,

870
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,239
it's it's really creepy. So if you have any pets stories,

871
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,320
any animal stories, also, please send them my way. And

872
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,840
also here let's talk about the ending. Obviously, right, it

873
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:03,000
almost changes the whole story because we talked about how

874
00:53:03,039 --> 00:53:08,559
Olivia was spending most of her life terrified, not understanding

875
00:53:08,639 --> 00:53:12,719
what these dreams meant, what was going on in her life.

876
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,400
What about these dark figures that at some point turned

877
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,320
out to be Like her friend was able to see

878
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,760
a dark like a figure a silhouette at the door

879
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:23,760
turns out to be Olivia because she was seeing herself

880
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,000
from that perspective. Now, isn't that like this meta like

881
00:53:28,199 --> 00:53:33,159
super like a story within a story, like you know,

882
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,239
I find that really interesting. But you see how she

883
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,239
was spending all her life really scared and then she

884
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:43,079
now was able to identify what these experiences were connected to.

885
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:49,119
So basically it's more of a purpose instead of a curse.

886
00:53:50,519 --> 00:53:52,760
Let me know your thoughts. This was a very interesting story.

887
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,239
I appreciate the you know, taking the time to share this.

888
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:01,079
It was very very cool to learn about. So this

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episode was produced by me Edwin Kovarubiaz with help from

890
00:54:04,639 --> 00:54:07,920
the Scary FM team, with all scheduling done by Sophia

891
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Petties and Bianca Chavis. Huge shout out to them, and

892
00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:12,800
also huge shout out to our Scary Plus members. Thank

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you so much for helping out and for your support.

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Really appreciate you guys. This is super cool that we

895
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,920
get to do this, and there's a lot more stuff

896
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coming for for everyone. We're gonna have additional material in

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the extended episodes. We also have obviously the regular ad

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free stuff that we have, you know, we get to

899
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listen to ad free, but although some more like I guess,

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additional kinds of stories like bonus, we're experimental kind of

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really cool. But yeah, huge shout out to them. And also,

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if you have a scary story, something that happened to

904
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:45,719
you that you experienced, please reach out. You can go

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to true scarystory dot com. There's a form there, you

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fill it out and we get in touch. Then if

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if it's the show, we reconnect and we schedule a call.

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It's super simple. I mean I make it sound more

909
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complicated the way that that I say and that we

910
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,480
have a contact form and all that, but it's pretty simple.

911
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It's cool obviously. Obviously it's free. So if you get

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any any scammers out there trying to charge you or

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saying that they're they're a member of Scary FM or anything,

914
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it's not us, Like, we don't charge for any of that.

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But yeah, so get in touch. Please. We need more stories,

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we need more sources. We can get this these episodes

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out more frequently, So please reach out with with your stories.

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That's all I got for you. Thank you so much

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for showing up for listening. As always, keep it scary

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everyone soon