WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.439 --> 00:00:08.519 It's night with Dan Ray on Deli Fleas, Boston's Radio. Well, 2 00:00:10.320 --> 00:00:15.800 eight days from now, at this hour, the election, for 3 00:00:15.880 --> 00:00:20.519 all intents and purposes, twenty four will be over. Meeting 4 00:00:20.519 --> 00:00:25.120 the presidential elections, the Senate races, the House of Representative races, 5 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:31.120 and local elections in all fifty states, it will be over. 6 00:00:32.479 --> 00:00:36.600 We have lots scheduled coming up later this week. We're 7 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:40.479 going to talk tomorrow night with Spencer Kimball, the Emerson 8 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:45.479 College pollster. He's a great pollster. See what he is 9 00:00:45.520 --> 00:00:47.840 seeing in these final days. We'll talk with Dave Paale 10 00:00:47.960 --> 00:00:52.280 Logus on Wednesday night, Suffolk pollster. Dave does also polling 11 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:58.280 for USA. Today we'll talk to hopefully John Zogby all 12 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:00.799 the pollsters and get a sense of where we are. 13 00:01:01.640 --> 00:01:05.599 If you follow the polls as I do, it can 14 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:10.640 be pretty confusing, and I'm not in a position where 15 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:15.799 I'm going to predict or make any projections. I do 16 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:22.359 follow five thirty eight, which is a very comprehensive polling side. 17 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:24.480 I'm sure some of you out there are interested in 18 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:30.760 this subject. I'd like to look at a development in 19 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:33.560 twenty twenty four that I, frankly have never seen before. 20 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:38.719 And I would like to get some input from you 21 00:01:39.079 --> 00:01:46.000 on this. The Washington Post announced over the weekend or 22 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:50.400 late last week that they were not going to endorse 23 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:58.400 anyone for president, which I think is perhaps the first 24 00:01:58.439 --> 00:02:05.760 time that Washington Post has not endorsed in a presidential candidate. 25 00:02:05.799 --> 00:02:09.000 The Washington Post considers himself looking in an article from 26 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:17.280 The Boston Globe written by Aiden Ryan, which was updated yesterday. 27 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:20.240 So the Washington Post decision not to endorse the presidential 28 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:24.080 candidate less than two weeks before the presidential election, a 29 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:27.960 decision reportedly made by billionaire owner Jeff Bezos, has set 30 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:31.960 off a firestorm of criticism in the media world. Now, 31 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:36.360 I think that newspapers have a right to endorse or 32 00:02:36.400 --> 00:02:40.319 not endorse. I don't know that newspaper endorsements carry as 33 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:44.680 much weight as they once did. The Boston Globe, if 34 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:49.159 they haven't already endorsed Vice President Harris, I'm sure they 35 00:02:49.199 --> 00:02:51.800 will in the next few days. My suspicion is that 36 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:54.439 probably the Boston Herald will endorse Donald Trump, just like 37 00:02:54.479 --> 00:02:58.520 the New York Times will Vice President Harris. But the 38 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:03.439 Los Angeles Times, which is also a huge newspaper with 39 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:09.439 a huge footprint, across the country has chosen not to 40 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:15.400 endorse anyone either of the presidential candidates this year. That 41 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:20.439 coming against the backdrop of the decision of the Teamsters 42 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:26.280 not to endorse. I'm sure all of you remember Sean 43 00:03:26.319 --> 00:03:32.240 O'Brien's appearance at the Republican Convention. He asked to speak 44 00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:37.199 at the Democratic Convention. He was denied that opportunity. And then, 45 00:03:37.719 --> 00:03:41.960 even though I guess the rank and file Teamsters members 46 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:46.560 had endorsed had said that they preferred Donald Trump over 47 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:53.120 Vice President Harris, the Teamsters decided not to endorse anyone. 48 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:58.639 But even more importantly, earlier this month, it was announced 49 00:03:59.159 --> 00:04:07.039 on October third that the International Association of Firefighters was 50 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:09.919 not going to endure US. So this is an interesting 51 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:14.360 trend in twenty twenty four when we have these two 52 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:21.399 very interesting candidates, Donald Trump, former president, who has made 53 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:25.360 a I don't know how to describe it other than say, 54 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:30.480 remarkable comeback. I felt he could win the nomination if 55 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:33.639 he wanted to win the nomination, but I didn't feel 56 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:38.879 that he was a viable candidate in November. He's proven 57 00:04:38.920 --> 00:04:42.959 me wrong on that. I think he very well might 58 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:46.720 be elected the forty seventh president. Of the United States, 59 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:50.560 something that the only other person who did that was 60 00:04:50.600 --> 00:04:57.160 Grover Cleveland, to serve not two non consecutive terms. There 61 00:04:57.160 --> 00:04:59.959 are plenty of presidents who get elected and then re elected. 62 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:02.000 You can think of Bill Clinton, think of Ronald Reagan, 63 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:07.120 think of Dwight Eisenhower, think of Franklin Roosevelt, who was elected, 64 00:05:07.279 --> 00:05:12.120 reelected four times and served well, it was little more 65 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:14.920 than twelve years, almost thirteen years as president before he 66 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:20.959 died in office. So I'm interested. Why do you think 67 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:29.600 this year, with an incumbent vice president and a controversial 68 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:36.480 Republican presidential candidate, the race is very close according to 69 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:41.920 all the pollsters, although some would argue that Donald Trump 70 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:46.720 is doing much better than he did Visa VI Joe 71 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:51.360 Biden in twenty twenty or Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen. 72 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:56.319 I just think it's interesting why newspapers in this country 73 00:05:57.279 --> 00:05:59.560 and I don't know. The only two that I know 74 00:05:59.720 --> 00:06:02.360 of the Washington Post in the LA Times, and I 75 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:07.279 would bet you that there's probably many other smaller newspapers 76 00:06:07.319 --> 00:06:10.279 in the country who will follow that trend and say 77 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:13.439 we're going to sit on the sidelines. Now. I know 78 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:16.439 that Marty Baron, who's been a guest in this program 79 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:22.040 was very upset with this. Marty Baron, former Boston Globe editor, 80 00:06:22.920 --> 00:06:25.800 and also he's the executive editor at the Post under 81 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:30.839 Bezo under Jeff Bezos, said in a social medium quoting 82 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:33.079 now from a global article. Baron said in a social 83 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:35.519 media post on Friday that the decision at the Post 84 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:42.480 was quote cowardness with democracy as its casualty unquote. Now 85 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:49.920 I can understand Marty Lewis rather Marty Baron feeling that way. 86 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:54.639 The chief executive executive of the Post and publisher, Will 87 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:58.279 Lewis said in a statement to the Globe that Bezo's 88 00:06:58.399 --> 00:07:01.519 quote was not sent, did not read, and did not 89 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:05.360 opine on any draft unquote of an endorsement, and that 90 00:07:05.439 --> 00:07:08.759 the Post is quote an independent newspaper and should support 91 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:11.920 our reader's abilities to make up their own minds unquote. 92 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:16.040 So that's kind of an interesting position for the Post 93 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:21.279 to take, I think, and not an unreasonable position. The 94 00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:25.680 Post has always, or at least at least in recent years, 95 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:31.399 been consider to be a pretty predictable liberal newspaper, similar 96 00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:34.680 to the Boston Globe, similar to the New York Times, 97 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:40.000 but it's decided not to endorse. How significant is that 98 00:07:40.279 --> 00:07:45.720 in your mind that the post that the LA Times 99 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:51.720 that the Teamsters and the International Association of Firefighters, the 100 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:55.800 Teamsters and the Firefighters represent a lot of voters. And 101 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:59.879 does that mean that the Teamsters members and the fire 102 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:08.160 fighters will feel able since their union leadership did not 103 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:14.079 endorse one of the other candidates, to not be compelled 104 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:18.000 to follow the union leadership. I think they could. Either 105 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:23.240 of these could make a difference in this campaign. And 106 00:08:23.879 --> 00:08:25.560 I just want to open up the phone lines. I 107 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:27.079 want to talk about it. I want to talk about 108 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:30.439 how you see this election evolving. We're eight days away 109 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:35.840 and the experts are telling us it's still too close 110 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:41.360 to call. But there are some signs that I think 111 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:47.759 can be read by either candidate optimistically. But there's only 112 00:08:47.799 --> 00:08:52.960 going to be one winner next Tuesday night or Wednesday morning, Thursday. 113 00:08:54.039 --> 00:08:57.559 I will continue to say I hope it's a decisive 114 00:08:57.879 --> 00:09:00.519 victory for either one of the candidates, because we cannot 115 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:03.200 go through in this country what we went through in 116 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:05.600 twenty twenty, either from the point of view of the 117 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:09.120 Republicans who felt disenfranchised or the Democrats who felt the 118 00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:14.240 Republicans were acting childlessly childlike. So, uh, let me open 119 00:09:14.519 --> 00:09:16.919 up the phone lines six one, seven, two, five, four 120 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:20.360 ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. 121 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:24.080 What do you read it too? These non endorsements? Why 122 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:28.799 are big powerful institutions stepping back? Love to know what 123 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:32.120 you think about that and what is your sense as 124 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:35.440 to where this this election is headed? With eight days left, 125 00:09:36.919 --> 00:09:40.519 I watched some of the nightly newscast tonight. There was 126 00:09:40.600 --> 00:09:46.039 some really stupid comments made by some comedian who spoke 127 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:50.720 at the Trump rally last night at Madison Square Garden, 128 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:54.879 and ABC News built their lead story about this stupid 129 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:58.879 joke by this stupid comedian, which the Trump campaign has 130 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:06.360 distanced themselves from. But the bias of ABC News has 131 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:10.000 just become more and more obvious night after night and 132 00:10:10.200 --> 00:10:14.639 grasping its straws. I mean, what did they expect Donald 133 00:10:14.679 --> 00:10:18.720 Trump to do to rip the guy off the stage? 134 00:10:19.120 --> 00:10:21.879 First of all, the guy was an idiot for the joke. 135 00:10:21.960 --> 00:10:25.159 The joke wasn't even funny, it was a It was 136 00:10:25.360 --> 00:10:32.960 certainly a racist joke in my opinion, which if I 137 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:35.120 didn't know better, I would say the guy was looking 138 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:41.080 to sabotage the Trump campaign. Sixty six seven nine thirty. 139 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:45.639 Coming right back on night Side. Now back to Dan 140 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:48.960 Ray live from the Window World night Side Studios on 141 00:10:49.240 --> 00:10:53.600 WBZ News Radio. All right, so I want to talk 142 00:10:53.639 --> 00:10:58.840 a little politics here. It's eight days, eight days from now. 143 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:03.000 Eight days from now, we conceivably could know who the 144 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:06.639 next president is the president is. I would hope, to 145 00:11:06.679 --> 00:11:09.840 be really honest with you, I would hope that we 146 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:14.320 would have a clear winner. I don't think we need 147 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:21.480 a race that is never going to be agreed upon. 148 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:26.159 I obviously have my own thoughts as to which candidate 149 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:28.639 is more qualified, which candidate will do a better job, 150 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:32.519 and I won't. I'm more interested in your thoughts. But 151 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:35.960 I hope that whether you are a Trump supporter or 152 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:39.279 a Harris supporter, you will see the benefit of a 153 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:43.679 clear and convincing victory, because I don't want to go through. 154 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:49.360 If you remember, in twenty twenty, Joe Biden was not 155 00:11:49.559 --> 00:11:55.799 declared the winner finally until I think on Saturday. If 156 00:11:55.799 --> 00:11:59.519 you recall, matter of fact, I remember it very clearly 157 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:02.360 that people in Washington. 158 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:02.240 D C. 159 00:12:02.519 --> 00:12:04.799 There were some they were waiting and waiting and waiting, 160 00:12:04.840 --> 00:12:08.000 and there was no winner until four days, which I 161 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:16.000 don't understand unless it's just so tight. But I don't 162 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:21.840 know the country can stand another rerun of a twenty 163 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:30.519 twenty election. I don't believe so, so my own personal 164 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:35.320 thoughts as to who might do a better job, I 165 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:37.720 think it's more important that we have a decisive victory, 166 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:41.120 and I hope and I'd love to hear some of 167 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:45.519 you tonight to pledge that, whether you are a Trump 168 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:51.039 supporter or a Harris supporter, that you will recognize the 169 00:12:51.080 --> 00:12:55.279 winner without question as the next president of the United States, 170 00:12:55.279 --> 00:12:58.440 because if we don't, we're going to be really a 171 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:01.639 country in huge trouble. If you think twenty was bad, 172 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:05.159 twenty twenty four could be worse. Let me go to Matt. Matt, 173 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:07.639 you are next on Nightsiger right ahead, Thanks. 174 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:10.080 For calling it. 175 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:14.720 Yeah, I just wanted to say, you know, first off, 176 00:13:14.799 --> 00:13:20.720 on the La Times and them not endorsing anybody. I 177 00:13:20.799 --> 00:13:23.240 do forget how to pronounce his last name, but his 178 00:13:23.240 --> 00:13:27.120 first name. He's the owner of the paper. His first 179 00:13:27.159 --> 00:13:33.039 name is Patrick. He's he's been a businessman, and he's 180 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:37.080 supported It's just important in the context both sides. But 181 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:43.000 he tried twice to get into Trump's through private meetings, 182 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:48.159 into Trump's cabinet that I don't think has anything to 183 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:52.000 do with why not? But I think you know, he's 184 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:57.679 supported and he's turned down Elizabeth Warren Well for posting 185 00:13:57.840 --> 00:14:00.440 articles about, you know, pro support of her, and a 186 00:14:00.440 --> 00:14:03.679 lot of people quit over him not doing anything pro 187 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:08.200 haeris to me, you know, the media, you are the 188 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:12.440 media in some ways, but you're a non biased media, 189 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:15.559 and that's how it should be. So I actually think 190 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:20.200 the media should not be biased and should not have 191 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:23.120 an agenda. That's how you report the media. 192 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:27.240 The media can can can express their opinions, that's for sure. 193 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:31.960 And and when the media does not take a position 194 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:38.080 on something like this, a lot of people are upset 195 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:42.559 about it. And and you know, maybe maybe you think 196 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:45.879 that papers shouldn't endorse I I don't. I think the 197 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:49.519 days of papers having huge impact is kind of law 198 00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:54.000 is over. I don't. I don't think that UH they 199 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:56.960 are going to have nearly the impact that they that 200 00:14:57.000 --> 00:15:01.039 they used to have. But at this point, I'm more 201 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:04.879 surprised that the teams do. These powerful unions, the International 202 00:15:04.919 --> 00:15:10.639 Association of Firefighters, most unions tend to go with the Democrat, 203 00:15:10.759 --> 00:15:16.960 and for some reason at this point, UH Vice. 204 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:20.279 President internally did go with it with Trump. If you 205 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:22.720 look at what they said from the polls. They just 206 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:24.679 didn't indor anybody officially. 207 00:15:25.360 --> 00:15:27.159 Well, right. But what I'm saying is if I'm a 208 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:30.039 union member, if I'm a union member, now I feel 209 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:33.840 free to uh to, I feel freer to go vote 210 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:37.759 because the union has basically removed that obligation from me. 211 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:41.480 Most most union members will say, Okay, I'm in a union, 212 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:44.360 and we all have you ever have you ever been 213 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:47.519 a union member? No? 214 00:15:47.519 --> 00:15:48.679 No. 215 00:15:49.519 --> 00:15:52.240 Unions will tell their membership, look, we think it's in 216 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:54.399 the best interest of the union to vote this way 217 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:56.919 or vote that way, and many union members will follow 218 00:15:57.000 --> 00:15:59.639 the leadership because they feel, hey, they know better. What 219 00:15:59.720 --> 00:16:02.399 have we for us. I think that the fact that 220 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:08.919 the Teamsters, even though they were apparently overwhelmingly or sixty 221 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:11.440 percent in favor of Trump, I think that all of 222 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:14.440 those members now will be able to say, hey, I've 223 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:17.240 been given permission by my union to vote for Donald Trump. 224 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:21.000 That's where I ag read that. And if I'm a 225 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:25.120 a right, if I'm a reader of the Washington Post, 226 00:16:25.159 --> 00:16:26.840 I might say, great, I don't need to be told 227 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:29.559 by my newspaper. But I just think it's an interesting trend, 228 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:32.159 and I would think that that most people at this 229 00:16:32.200 --> 00:16:37.000 point would realize would think that maybe this is not 230 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:38.480 a good I don't think this is I'll put it 231 00:16:38.519 --> 00:16:40.440 on the line. I was hoping more people would call 232 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:42.240 and either agree or disagree. So I'll tell you what 233 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:46.120 I think. I think this is problematical for Harris, and 234 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:50.000 Harris would have expected the endorsement from the Washington Post. 235 00:16:50.200 --> 00:16:53.559 She should have expected the endorsement from the Los Angeles Times. 236 00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:57.919 And well, yeah, I mean I would hand the New 237 00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:00.000 York Times into Boston Globe, owned by the same people. 238 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:04.000 But I would say everybody should just wrap up very quickly. 239 00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:06.759 Everybody should have a mind of their own. I understand. 240 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:12.240 Sticking with that part, and to your second part, I 241 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:15.519 believe in our constitution. Our constitution is what we were 242 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:22.039 founded in seventeen seventy six, you know, or when you 243 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:23.599 know the declaration was signed. 244 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:28.279 The Constitution was seventeen eighty seven. What's your point on that, Matte? 245 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:31.759 Thanks, thank you for correcting me. My point is that 246 00:17:31.880 --> 00:17:34.680 I will accept, although it might be a lump in 247 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:36.640 my throat if it's not how I want it to be, 248 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:40.480 for the good of the nation. There's no point in 249 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:42.759 being bitter for another four years. 250 00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:44.839 Yeah, well, thank you for that. 251 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:48.759 I know I'll be happy about it, but I'll take it. 252 00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:52.200 Well, I think again, I think the more decisive the 253 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:58.000 election returns come out, whether its decisive an electoral college sense, oh, 254 00:17:58.039 --> 00:18:01.640 this decisive and popular vote. I just think we've had 255 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:07.200 wonderfully close elections, but too many people on both sides 256 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:16.680 have moaned and acted out. We have an election. You're 257 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:18.519 either going to vote for the winner or the loser. 258 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:21.920 It's as simple as that. Whoever wins should be given 259 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:25.640 your support. Don't have to support them for a year, 260 00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:28.720 but just acknowledge the other president and then deal with it. 261 00:18:28.839 --> 00:18:29.559 That's all I'm saying. 262 00:18:29.799 --> 00:18:33.960 Thanks Matt the elector, And no, the electoral college has consequences. 263 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:36.720 It gave us Trump in twenty sixteen and that's what 264 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:39.079 I was happy with, and it might not work out 265 00:18:39.160 --> 00:18:41.440 that way this time, and that's what I'm worried about. 266 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:43.960 But I will accept it if it's there. 267 00:18:44.519 --> 00:18:48.079 Well, thank you for more people pledged to do that, Okay, 268 00:18:48.200 --> 00:18:51.920 because I think that's an important thing to be willing 269 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:55.000 to say, Hey, look my candidate, your candidate might or 270 00:18:55.039 --> 00:18:58.359 might not win, but at the end of the day, 271 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:01.400 the election is run hopeful, Lea, it's run fairly and. 272 00:19:01.480 --> 00:19:04.160 The best of the American people and the best in 273 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:07.440 America is so whole. Thanks Anne, right, Thanks Matt, all right. 274 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:08.519 God bless good. 275 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:10.920 Right back right back at you six one, seven, two, five, 276 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:14.240 four to ten thirty six one seven, nine, three one 277 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:16.960 ten thirty. I'd love to hear from as many of 278 00:19:16.960 --> 00:19:19.720 you tonight who will tell me that, irrespective of who 279 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:25.720 you are supporting, you are willing to accept the decision 280 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:27.799 of the American people, because if not, we're no longer 281 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:30.039 a country. And I mean, I think that's an important 282 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:32.400 thing to talk about. And uh, I think at the 283 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:35.319 time to talk about it is now before the results 284 00:19:35.319 --> 00:19:37.640 start coming in a week. A week from tomorrow night. 285 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:39.359 We'll be back on nights Side right after the news 286 00:19:39.400 --> 00:19:40.480 break at the bottom of the hour. 287 00:19:43.160 --> 00:19:47.839 It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's news radio. 288 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:52.599 That's kind of interesting that twenty seven twenty five percent 289 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:55.279 of the voters have already cast their ballots. So interesting. 290 00:19:55.359 --> 00:20:00.799 Let me go to David in San Francisco. David, welcome back, sir, Well. 291 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:03.759 Well, thanks Dan. I was going to just keep it 292 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:07.359 on a kind of a basic civics level that we 293 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:11.160 the people own this country, and that we hire a 294 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:14.880 guy every four years to be the property manager, a 295 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:21.119 guy are now or gal sure. And the idea that 296 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:25.440 government should be run like a business, to me is 297 00:20:25.480 --> 00:20:29.920 a scam because if people don't want their taxes to 298 00:20:30.039 --> 00:20:34.920 be high, they want government to be run like a nonprofit. 299 00:20:35.759 --> 00:20:39.119 So the sewer department, every penny that goes into the 300 00:20:39.160 --> 00:20:43.000 sewer department should go toward making it work, right, every 301 00:20:43.079 --> 00:20:46.759 penny that goes into the parks department, into the fresh 302 00:20:46.839 --> 00:20:49.240 water system, into the libraries. 303 00:20:49.559 --> 00:20:53.160 I don't think anyone's going to disagree with you on that, right, 304 00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:55.839 So I think the question is going to be I 305 00:20:55.880 --> 00:20:59.240 think the question is always going to be from different sources. 306 00:20:59.359 --> 00:21:02.200 Is people are going to say we want more money 307 00:21:02.279 --> 00:21:05.920 in the defense defense department, or we want another group 308 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:08.599 of people say we want less money. Someone will say 309 00:21:08.640 --> 00:21:10.799 we want better roads, the roads will fine and stuff, 310 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:13.319 and there is all all of the differences. 311 00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:18.799 Well, I when you say that there's no disagreement, I 312 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:23.400 this whole discussion lately, especially that I didn't. 313 00:21:23.559 --> 00:21:25.920 I didn't say there's no disagreement. I said, that's with it. 314 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:30.720 There's no disagreement on the fact that we have a government, 315 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:34.839 and the government has to do that. They that in theory, 316 00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:37.839 they work for us. I get it, but it comes 317 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:42.039 down to what should they do. Should we have military 318 00:21:42.079 --> 00:21:45.319 bases in Europe? Should we not have military bases in Europe? 319 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:48.000 All the it's always the devils. What I'm saying, David, 320 00:21:48.079 --> 00:21:49.440 is the devil's in the details. 321 00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:54.640 Well, if you want to talk military issues, you get 322 00:21:54.640 --> 00:21:58.519 into top secrecy, and then whether or not the taxpayer 323 00:21:58.599 --> 00:22:02.160 can ever find out whether their company like Boeing, is 324 00:22:02.319 --> 00:22:07.759 producing shoddy products. And even the congress people, the representatives 325 00:22:07.799 --> 00:22:10.799 can't find out whether or not we're being cheated. 326 00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:15.119 But that gets you're getting into some of the areas. 327 00:22:15.319 --> 00:22:17.640 I got a question for you, okay, and I'm going 328 00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:20.640 to be interested in your answer. I've talked to you 329 00:22:20.799 --> 00:22:23.599 enough to know that you're no fan of Donald Trump, 330 00:22:24.319 --> 00:22:26.599 and I trust you enough to know and I know 331 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:28.759 you well enough to know that in all probability, you're 332 00:22:28.759 --> 00:22:30.319 not going to vote for Donald Trump. You're going to 333 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:34.119 vote for Vice President Harris. Assuming you vote, you are 334 00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:36.279 a voter, I assume because you're I've. 335 00:22:36.119 --> 00:22:38.680 Got my I'm working on my ballot as we speak. 336 00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:41.920 Okay, great, Okay, Well, I don't think that it's going 337 00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:45.119 to get much activity in the Trump side depending upon 338 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:48.720 who wins. Are you willing to tell me tonight that 339 00:22:48.839 --> 00:22:52.200 you will recognize the result of the election and accept 340 00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:54.400 the winner as president. 341 00:22:54.880 --> 00:22:57.440 Well, we have so many good issues out here in 342 00:22:57.480 --> 00:23:02.319 San Francisco that I will be happy to deal with 343 00:23:02.359 --> 00:23:03.240 it appropriately. 344 00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:08.319 But that's not my question, Dave, That's not my question. 345 00:23:08.359 --> 00:23:13.519 My question is if the candidate that you vote for 346 00:23:14.079 --> 00:23:16.680 wins the election, I assume that you're going to be 347 00:23:16.759 --> 00:23:19.880 very supportive of that candidate. Get that. But if the 348 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:23.440 candidate that you will vote for doesn't win the election, 349 00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:27.039 are you prepared to acknowledge and say, Okay, we lost, 350 00:23:27.079 --> 00:23:28.359 We're going to go get it next time. 351 00:23:31.279 --> 00:23:34.960 Uh. I take very seriously that Donald Trump is a 352 00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:37.359 traitor and that Donald Trump. 353 00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:39.240 So you will not so if he did, if the 354 00:23:39.279 --> 00:23:43.079 majority of American people elect him. All Right, I knew 355 00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:44.440 this is where you wanted to go, David. 356 00:23:44.440 --> 00:23:47.079 We actually had a rational where I wanted to go. 357 00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:50.279 I wanted to keep it at a very basic civics level. 358 00:23:50.799 --> 00:23:54.799 Well, I'm asking you a very basic civics question, and 359 00:23:54.920 --> 00:23:57.519 it sounds to me like you can answer me. You 360 00:23:57.519 --> 00:23:59.599 can say to me if you want to be honest 361 00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:03.920 and say no, if Donald Trump wins, I will not 362 00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:07.599 recognize him as as elected president of the United States. 363 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:08.480 You could say that if you. 364 00:24:08.440 --> 00:24:12.359 Want, Dan, what is taxation with representation? 365 00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:16.319 Thanks very much, David, get the plank place. I knew 366 00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:17.799 we were going to end up here anywhere. I have 367 00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:25.599 a great night day. Man. It was actually a rational 368 00:24:25.640 --> 00:24:29.079 conversation for a couple of minutes with him. Anyway, let's 369 00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:32.160 keep going. We will have a rational conversation with Danielle 370 00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:36.240 from Worcester. Danielle, welcome to nightside. How are you? 371 00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:39.039 Why do I always get the chance to follow the 372 00:24:39.119 --> 00:24:43.680 plank before me? 373 00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:49.440 I don't know. Maybe there's some something cosmic in the air. 374 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:52.559 You know, with all the respect to him, he is 375 00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:59.279 a stereotypical representation of that party. Though they get so mad. 376 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:02.240 I think I think he is. I think he's so 377 00:25:02.359 --> 00:25:05.559 far out there. And again I'm disappointed. 378 00:25:06.359 --> 00:25:10.400 I come across all the time that gets so mad 379 00:25:10.599 --> 00:25:13.279 about the whole who you're voting for. It's like, don't 380 00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:16.759 ask me if you're going to get that upset. I mean, 381 00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:20.559 I just don't understand why it's so emotional, Like this 382 00:25:20.599 --> 00:25:22.720 guy does not know you or I were never going 383 00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:25.160 to meet him. He's not sitting across from me. It's 384 00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:27.640 Sunday dinner. Why do you get that, mad? 385 00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:28.839 Why? 386 00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:31.799 Well, he doesn't like Donald Trump, which is fine. Let 387 00:25:31.799 --> 00:25:33.680 me ask you. I know that you do like Trump. 388 00:25:33.799 --> 00:25:37.039 I know you do like Trump. If Harris wins the 389 00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:40.240 vice president, Harris wins the election, are you willing to 390 00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:43.720 to say, Okay, my guy lost, she's the president. Let's 391 00:25:43.720 --> 00:25:44.000 move on. 392 00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:48.920 I mean, I don't have any choice but to accept it. 393 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:51.519 But do I call her my I don't call Joe 394 00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:54.519 Prebiden my president. I mean I didn't vote for him. 395 00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:56.720 He's the president of the United States. There's certainly not 396 00:25:56.759 --> 00:26:00.559 my president. I mean, I okay, so the person that 397 00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:02.319 I have, but I get it. 398 00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:04.000 But you recognize he's the president. 399 00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:06.839 She would be the president, but I do wouldn't say, 400 00:26:06.920 --> 00:26:07.160 you know. 401 00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:08.640