Speaker 1: It's night with Dan Ray on Deli Fleas, Boston's Radio. Well,
Speaker 1: eight days from now, at this hour, the election, for
Speaker 1: all intents and purposes, twenty four will be over. Meeting
Speaker 1: the presidential elections, the Senate races, the House of Representative races,
Speaker 1: and local elections in all fifty states, it will be over.
Speaker 1: We have lots scheduled coming up later this week. We're
Speaker 1: going to talk tomorrow night with Spencer Kimball, the Emerson
Speaker 1: College pollster. He's a great pollster. See what he is
Speaker 1: seeing in these final days. We'll talk with Dave Paale
Speaker 1: Logus on Wednesday night, Suffolk pollster. Dave does also polling
Speaker 1: for USA. Today we'll talk to hopefully John Zogby all
Speaker 1: the pollsters and get a sense of where we are.
Speaker 1: If you follow the polls as I do, it can
Speaker 1: be pretty confusing, and I'm not in a position where
Speaker 1: I'm going to predict or make any projections. I do
Speaker 1: follow five thirty eight, which is a very comprehensive polling side.
Speaker 1: I'm sure some of you out there are interested in
Speaker 1: this subject. I'd like to look at a development in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four that I, frankly have never seen before.
Speaker 1: And I would like to get some input from you
Speaker 1: on this. The Washington Post announced over the weekend or
Speaker 1: late last week that they were not going to endorse
Speaker 1: anyone for president, which I think is perhaps the first
Speaker 1: time that Washington Post has not endorsed in a presidential candidate.
Speaker 1: The Washington Post considers himself looking in an article from
Speaker 1: The Boston Globe written by Aiden Ryan, which was updated yesterday.
Speaker 1: So the Washington Post decision not to endorse the presidential
Speaker 1: candidate less than two weeks before the presidential election, a
Speaker 1: decision reportedly made by billionaire owner Jeff Bezos, has set
Speaker 1: off a firestorm of criticism in the media world. Now,
Speaker 1: I think that newspapers have a right to endorse or
Speaker 1: not endorse. I don't know that newspaper endorsements carry as
Speaker 1: much weight as they once did. The Boston Globe, if
Speaker 1: they haven't already endorsed Vice President Harris, I'm sure they
Speaker 1: will in the next few days. My suspicion is that
Speaker 1: probably the Boston Herald will endorse Donald Trump, just like
Speaker 1: the New York Times will Vice President Harris. But the
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Times, which is also a huge newspaper with
Speaker 1: a huge footprint, across the country has chosen not to
Speaker 1: endorse anyone either of the presidential candidates this year. That
Speaker 1: coming against the backdrop of the decision of the Teamsters
Speaker 1: not to endorse. I'm sure all of you remember Sean
Speaker 1: O'Brien's appearance at the Republican Convention. He asked to speak
Speaker 1: at the Democratic Convention. He was denied that opportunity. And then,
Speaker 1: even though I guess the rank and file Teamsters members
Speaker 1: had endorsed had said that they preferred Donald Trump over
Speaker 1: Vice President Harris, the Teamsters decided not to endorse anyone.
Speaker 1: But even more importantly, earlier this month, it was announced
Speaker 1: on October third that the International Association of Firefighters was
Speaker 1: not going to endure US. So this is an interesting
Speaker 1: trend in twenty twenty four when we have these two
Speaker 1: very interesting candidates, Donald Trump, former president, who has made
Speaker 1: a I don't know how to describe it other than say,
Speaker 1: remarkable comeback. I felt he could win the nomination if
Speaker 1: he wanted to win the nomination, but I didn't feel
Speaker 1: that he was a viable candidate in November. He's proven
Speaker 1: me wrong on that. I think he very well might
Speaker 1: be elected the forty seventh president. Of the United States,
Speaker 1: something that the only other person who did that was
Speaker 1: Grover Cleveland, to serve not two non consecutive terms. There
Speaker 1: are plenty of presidents who get elected and then re elected.
Speaker 1: You can think of Bill Clinton, think of Ronald Reagan,
Speaker 1: think of Dwight Eisenhower, think of Franklin Roosevelt, who was elected,
Speaker 1: reelected four times and served well, it was little more
Speaker 1: than twelve years, almost thirteen years as president before he
Speaker 1: died in office. So I'm interested. Why do you think
Speaker 1: this year, with an incumbent vice president and a controversial
Speaker 1: Republican presidential candidate, the race is very close according to
Speaker 1: all the pollsters, although some would argue that Donald Trump
Speaker 1: is doing much better than he did Visa VI Joe
Speaker 1: Biden in twenty twenty or Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: I just think it's interesting why newspapers in this country
Speaker 1: and I don't know. The only two that I know
Speaker 1: of the Washington Post in the LA Times, and I
Speaker 1: would bet you that there's probably many other smaller newspapers
Speaker 1: in the country who will follow that trend and say
Speaker 1: we're going to sit on the sidelines. Now. I know
Speaker 1: that Marty Baron, who's been a guest in this program
Speaker 1: was very upset with this. Marty Baron, former Boston Globe editor,
Speaker 1: and also he's the executive editor at the Post under
Speaker 1: Bezo under Jeff Bezos, said in a social medium quoting
Speaker 1: now from a global article. Baron said in a social
Speaker 1: media post on Friday that the decision at the Post
Speaker 1: was quote cowardness with democracy as its casualty unquote. Now
Speaker 1: I can understand Marty Lewis rather Marty Baron feeling that way.
Speaker 1: The chief executive executive of the Post and publisher, Will
Speaker 1: Lewis said in a statement to the Globe that Bezo's
Speaker 1: quote was not sent, did not read, and did not
Speaker 1: opine on any draft unquote of an endorsement, and that
Speaker 1: the Post is quote an independent newspaper and should support
Speaker 1: our reader's abilities to make up their own minds unquote.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of an interesting position for the Post
Speaker 1: to take, I think, and not an unreasonable position. The
Speaker 1: Post has always, or at least at least in recent years,
Speaker 1: been consider to be a pretty predictable liberal newspaper, similar
Speaker 1: to the Boston Globe, similar to the New York Times,
Speaker 1: but it's decided not to endorse. How significant is that
Speaker 1: in your mind that the post that the LA Times
Speaker 1: that the Teamsters and the International Association of Firefighters, the
Speaker 1: Teamsters and the Firefighters represent a lot of voters. And
Speaker 1: does that mean that the Teamsters members and the fire
Speaker 1: fighters will feel able since their union leadership did not
Speaker 1: endorse one of the other candidates, to not be compelled
Speaker 1: to follow the union leadership. I think they could. Either
Speaker 1: of these could make a difference in this campaign. And
Speaker 1: I just want to open up the phone lines. I
Speaker 1: want to talk about it. I want to talk about
Speaker 1: how you see this election evolving. We're eight days away
Speaker 1: and the experts are telling us it's still too close
Speaker 1: to call. But there are some signs that I think
Speaker 1: can be read by either candidate optimistically. But there's only
Speaker 1: going to be one winner next Tuesday night or Wednesday morning, Thursday.
Speaker 1: I will continue to say I hope it's a decisive
Speaker 1: victory for either one of the candidates, because we cannot
Speaker 1: go through in this country what we went through in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, either from the point of view of the
Speaker 1: Republicans who felt disenfranchised or the Democrats who felt the
Speaker 1: Republicans were acting childlessly childlike. So, uh, let me open
Speaker 1: up the phone lines six one, seven, two, five, four
Speaker 1: ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 1: What do you read it too? These non endorsements? Why
Speaker 1: are big powerful institutions stepping back? Love to know what
Speaker 1: you think about that and what is your sense as
Speaker 1: to where this this election is headed? With eight days left,
Speaker 1: I watched some of the nightly newscast tonight. There was
Speaker 1: some really stupid comments made by some comedian who spoke
Speaker 1: at the Trump rally last night at Madison Square Garden,
Speaker 1: and ABC News built their lead story about this stupid
Speaker 1: joke by this stupid comedian, which the Trump campaign has
Speaker 1: distanced themselves from. But the bias of ABC News has
Speaker 1: just become more and more obvious night after night and
Speaker 1: grasping its straws. I mean, what did they expect Donald
Speaker 1: Trump to do to rip the guy off the stage?
Speaker 1: First of all, the guy was an idiot for the joke.
Speaker 1: The joke wasn't even funny, it was a It was
Speaker 1: certainly a racist joke in my opinion, which if I
Speaker 1: didn't know better, I would say the guy was looking
Speaker 1: to sabotage the Trump campaign. Sixty six seven nine thirty.
Speaker 1: Coming right back on night Side. Now back to Dan
Speaker 1: Ray live from the Window World night Side Studios on
Speaker 1: WBZ News Radio. All right, so I want to talk
Speaker 1: a little politics here. It's eight days, eight days from now.
Speaker 1: Eight days from now, we conceivably could know who the
Speaker 1: next president is the president is. I would hope, to
Speaker 1: be really honest with you, I would hope that we
Speaker 1: would have a clear winner. I don't think we need
Speaker 1: a race that is never going to be agreed upon.
Speaker 1: I obviously have my own thoughts as to which candidate
Speaker 1: is more qualified, which candidate will do a better job,
Speaker 1: and I won't. I'm more interested in your thoughts. But
Speaker 1: I hope that whether you are a Trump supporter or
Speaker 1: a Harris supporter, you will see the benefit of a
Speaker 1: clear and convincing victory, because I don't want to go through.
Speaker 1: If you remember, in twenty twenty, Joe Biden was not
Speaker 1: declared the winner finally until I think on Saturday. If
Speaker 1: you recall, matter of fact, I remember it very clearly
Speaker 1: that people in Washington.
Speaker 2: D C.
Speaker 1: There were some they were waiting and waiting and waiting,
Speaker 1: and there was no winner until four days, which I
Speaker 1: don't understand unless it's just so tight. But I don't
Speaker 1: know the country can stand another rerun of a twenty
Speaker 1: twenty election. I don't believe so, so my own personal
Speaker 1: thoughts as to who might do a better job, I
Speaker 1: think it's more important that we have a decisive victory,
Speaker 1: and I hope and I'd love to hear some of
Speaker 1: you tonight to pledge that, whether you are a Trump
Speaker 1: supporter or a Harris supporter, that you will recognize the
Speaker 1: winner without question as the next president of the United States,
Speaker 1: because if we don't, we're going to be really a
Speaker 1: country in huge trouble. If you think twenty was bad,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four could be worse. Let me go to Matt. Matt,
Speaker 1: you are next on Nightsiger right ahead, Thanks.
Speaker 3: For calling it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just wanted to say, you know, first off,
Speaker 4: on the La Times and them not endorsing anybody. I
Speaker 4: do forget how to pronounce his last name, but his
Speaker 4: first name. He's the owner of the paper. His first
Speaker 4: name is Patrick. He's he's been a businessman, and he's
Speaker 4: supported It's just important in the context both sides. But
Speaker 4: he tried twice to get into Trump's through private meetings,
Speaker 4: into Trump's cabinet that I don't think has anything to
Speaker 4: do with why not? But I think you know, he's
Speaker 4: supported and he's turned down Elizabeth Warren Well for posting
Speaker 4: articles about, you know, pro support of her, and a
Speaker 4: lot of people quit over him not doing anything pro
Speaker 4: haeris to me, you know, the media, you are the
Speaker 4: media in some ways, but you're a non biased media,
Speaker 4: and that's how it should be. So I actually think
Speaker 4: the media should not be biased and should not have
Speaker 4: an agenda. That's how you report the media.
Speaker 1: The media can can can express their opinions, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: And and when the media does not take a position
Speaker 1: on something like this, a lot of people are upset
Speaker 1: about it. And and you know, maybe maybe you think
Speaker 1: that papers shouldn't endorse I I don't. I think the
Speaker 1: days of papers having huge impact is kind of law
Speaker 1: is over. I don't. I don't think that UH they
Speaker 1: are going to have nearly the impact that they that
Speaker 1: they used to have. But at this point, I'm more
Speaker 1: surprised that the teams do. These powerful unions, the International
Speaker 1: Association of Firefighters, most unions tend to go with the Democrat,
Speaker 1: and for some reason at this point, UH Vice.
Speaker 4: President internally did go with it with Trump. If you
Speaker 4: look at what they said from the polls. They just
Speaker 4: didn't indor anybody officially.
Speaker 1: Well, right. But what I'm saying is if I'm a
Speaker 1: union member, if I'm a union member, now I feel
Speaker 1: free to uh to, I feel freer to go vote
Speaker 1: because the union has basically removed that obligation from me.
Speaker 1: Most most union members will say, Okay, I'm in a union,
Speaker 1: and we all have you ever have you ever been
Speaker 1: a union member? No?
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: Unions will tell their membership, look, we think it's in
Speaker 1: the best interest of the union to vote this way
Speaker 1: or vote that way, and many union members will follow
Speaker 1: the leadership because they feel, hey, they know better. What
Speaker 1: have we for us. I think that the fact that
Speaker 1: the Teamsters, even though they were apparently overwhelmingly or sixty
Speaker 1: percent in favor of Trump, I think that all of
Speaker 1: those members now will be able to say, hey, I've
Speaker 1: been given permission by my union to vote for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: That's where I ag read that. And if I'm a
Speaker 1: a right, if I'm a reader of the Washington Post,
Speaker 1: I might say, great, I don't need to be told
Speaker 1: by my newspaper. But I just think it's an interesting trend,
Speaker 1: and I would think that that most people at this
Speaker 1: point would realize would think that maybe this is not
Speaker 1: a good I don't think this is I'll put it
Speaker 1: on the line. I was hoping more people would call
Speaker 1: and either agree or disagree. So I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: I think. I think this is problematical for Harris, and
Speaker 1: Harris would have expected the endorsement from the Washington Post.
Speaker 1: She should have expected the endorsement from the Los Angeles Times.
Speaker 4: And well, yeah, I mean I would hand the New
Speaker 4: York Times into Boston Globe, owned by the same people.
Speaker 4: But I would say everybody should just wrap up very quickly.
Speaker 4: Everybody should have a mind of their own. I understand.
Speaker 4: Sticking with that part, and to your second part, I
Speaker 4: believe in our constitution. Our constitution is what we were
Speaker 4: founded in seventeen seventy six, you know, or when you
Speaker 4: know the declaration was signed.
Speaker 1: The Constitution was seventeen eighty seven. What's your point on that, Matte?
Speaker 4: Thanks, thank you for correcting me. My point is that
Speaker 4: I will accept, although it might be a lump in
Speaker 4: my throat if it's not how I want it to be,
Speaker 4: for the good of the nation. There's no point in
Speaker 4: being bitter for another four years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thank you for that.
Speaker 4: I know I'll be happy about it, but I'll take it.
Speaker 1: Well, I think again, I think the more decisive the
Speaker 1: election returns come out, whether its decisive an electoral college sense, oh,
Speaker 1: this decisive and popular vote. I just think we've had
Speaker 1: wonderfully close elections, but too many people on both sides
Speaker 1: have moaned and acted out. We have an election. You're
Speaker 1: either going to vote for the winner or the loser.
Speaker 1: It's as simple as that. Whoever wins should be given
Speaker 1: your support. Don't have to support them for a year,
Speaker 1: but just acknowledge the other president and then deal with it.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Thanks Matt the elector, And no, the electoral college has consequences.
Speaker 4: It gave us Trump in twenty sixteen and that's what
Speaker 4: I was happy with, and it might not work out
Speaker 4: that way this time, and that's what I'm worried about.
Speaker 3: But I will accept it if it's there.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for more people pledged to do that, Okay,
Speaker 1: because I think that's an important thing to be willing
Speaker 1: to say, Hey, look my candidate, your candidate might or
Speaker 1: might not win, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: the election is run hopeful, Lea, it's run fairly and.
Speaker 4: The best of the American people and the best in
Speaker 4: America is so whole. Thanks Anne, right, Thanks Matt, all right.
Speaker 3: God bless good.
Speaker 1: Right back right back at you six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 1: four to ten thirty six one seven, nine, three one
Speaker 1: ten thirty. I'd love to hear from as many of
Speaker 1: you tonight who will tell me that, irrespective of who
Speaker 1: you are supporting, you are willing to accept the decision
Speaker 1: of the American people, because if not, we're no longer
Speaker 1: a country. And I mean, I think that's an important
Speaker 1: thing to talk about. And uh, I think at the
Speaker 1: time to talk about it is now before the results
Speaker 1: start coming in a week. A week from tomorrow night.
Speaker 1: We'll be back on nights Side right after the news
Speaker 1: break at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 3: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1: That's kind of interesting that twenty seven twenty five percent
Speaker 1: of the voters have already cast their ballots. So interesting.
Speaker 1: Let me go to David in San Francisco. David, welcome back, sir, Well.
Speaker 5: Well, thanks Dan. I was going to just keep it
Speaker 5: on a kind of a basic civics level that we
Speaker 5: the people own this country, and that we hire a
Speaker 5: guy every four years to be the property manager, a
Speaker 5: guy are now or gal sure. And the idea that
Speaker 5: government should be run like a business, to me is
Speaker 5: a scam because if people don't want their taxes to
Speaker 5: be high, they want government to be run like a nonprofit.
Speaker 5: So the sewer department, every penny that goes into the
Speaker 5: sewer department should go toward making it work, right, every
Speaker 5: penny that goes into the parks department, into the fresh
Speaker 5: water system, into the libraries.
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's going to disagree with you on that, right,
Speaker 1: So I think the question is going to be I
Speaker 1: think the question is always going to be from different sources.
Speaker 1: Is people are going to say we want more money
Speaker 1: in the defense defense department, or we want another group
Speaker 1: of people say we want less money. Someone will say
Speaker 1: we want better roads, the roads will fine and stuff,
Speaker 1: and there is all all of the differences.
Speaker 5: Well, I when you say that there's no disagreement, I
Speaker 5: this whole discussion lately, especially that I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't say there's no disagreement. I said, that's with it.
Speaker 1: There's no disagreement on the fact that we have a government,
Speaker 1: and the government has to do that. They that in theory,
Speaker 1: they work for us. I get it, but it comes
Speaker 1: down to what should they do. Should we have military
Speaker 1: bases in Europe? Should we not have military bases in Europe?
Speaker 1: All the it's always the devils. What I'm saying, David,
Speaker 1: is the devil's in the details.
Speaker 5: Well, if you want to talk military issues, you get
Speaker 5: into top secrecy, and then whether or not the taxpayer
Speaker 5: can ever find out whether their company like Boeing, is
Speaker 5: producing shoddy products. And even the congress people, the representatives
Speaker 5: can't find out whether or not we're being cheated.
Speaker 1: But that gets you're getting into some of the areas.
Speaker 1: I got a question for you, okay, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to be interested in your answer. I've talked to you
Speaker 1: enough to know that you're no fan of Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: and I trust you enough to know and I know
Speaker 1: you well enough to know that in all probability, you're
Speaker 1: not going to vote for Donald Trump. You're going to
Speaker 1: vote for Vice President Harris. Assuming you vote, you are
Speaker 1: a voter, I assume because you're I've.
Speaker 5: Got my I'm working on my ballot as we speak.
Speaker 1: Okay, great, Okay, Well, I don't think that it's going
Speaker 1: to get much activity in the Trump side depending upon
Speaker 1: who wins. Are you willing to tell me tonight that
Speaker 1: you will recognize the result of the election and accept
Speaker 1: the winner as president.
Speaker 5: Well, we have so many good issues out here in
Speaker 5: San Francisco that I will be happy to deal with
Speaker 5: it appropriately.
Speaker 1: But that's not my question, Dave, That's not my question.
Speaker 1: My question is if the candidate that you vote for
Speaker 1: wins the election, I assume that you're going to be
Speaker 1: very supportive of that candidate. Get that. But if the
Speaker 1: candidate that you will vote for doesn't win the election,
Speaker 1: are you prepared to acknowledge and say, Okay, we lost,
Speaker 1: We're going to go get it next time.
Speaker 5: Uh. I take very seriously that Donald Trump is a
Speaker 5: traitor and that Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: So you will not so if he did, if the
Speaker 1: majority of American people elect him. All Right, I knew
Speaker 1: this is where you wanted to go, David.
Speaker 5: We actually had a rational where I wanted to go.
Speaker 5: I wanted to keep it at a very basic civics level.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm asking you a very basic civics question, and
Speaker 1: it sounds to me like you can answer me. You
Speaker 1: can say to me if you want to be honest
Speaker 1: and say no, if Donald Trump wins, I will not
Speaker 1: recognize him as as elected president of the United States.
Speaker 1: You could say that if you.
Speaker 5: Want, Dan, what is taxation with representation?
Speaker 1: Thanks very much, David, get the plank place. I knew
Speaker 1: we were going to end up here anywhere. I have
Speaker 1: a great night day. Man. It was actually a rational
Speaker 1: conversation for a couple of minutes with him. Anyway, let's
Speaker 1: keep going. We will have a rational conversation with Danielle
Speaker 1: from Worcester. Danielle, welcome to nightside. How are you?
Speaker 2: Why do I always get the chance to follow the
Speaker 2: plank before me?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe there's some something cosmic in the air.
Speaker 2: You know, with all the respect to him, he is
Speaker 2: a stereotypical representation of that party. Though they get so mad.
Speaker 1: I think I think he is. I think he's so
Speaker 1: far out there. And again I'm disappointed.
Speaker 2: I come across all the time that gets so mad
Speaker 2: about the whole who you're voting for. It's like, don't
Speaker 2: ask me if you're going to get that upset. I mean,
Speaker 2: I just don't understand why it's so emotional, Like this
Speaker 2: guy does not know you or I were never going
Speaker 2: to meet him. He's not sitting across from me. It's
Speaker 2: Sunday dinner. Why do you get that, mad?
Speaker 6: Why?
Speaker 1: Well, he doesn't like Donald Trump, which is fine. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you. I know that you do like Trump.
Speaker 1: I know you do like Trump. If Harris wins the
Speaker 1: vice president, Harris wins the election, are you willing to
Speaker 1: to say, Okay, my guy lost, she's the president. Let's
Speaker 1: move on.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't have any choice but to accept it.
Speaker 2: But do I call her my I don't call Joe
Speaker 2: Prebiden my president. I mean I didn't vote for him.
Speaker 2: He's the president of the United States. There's certainly not
Speaker 2: my president. I mean, I okay, so the person that
Speaker 2: I have, but I get it.
Speaker 1: But you recognize he's the president.
Speaker 2: She would be the president, but I do wouldn't say,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: That's a start, that's a step in.
Speaker 2: The president, you know. But it's interesting about this whole
Speaker 2: union thing. You know, My daughter I told you is
Speaker 2: recently she's now an operating engineer, but she was in
Speaker 2: the laborers Union fresh out of high school. And being
Speaker 2: in the union, she grew up in a Republican home,
Speaker 2: but she's being very exposed to the Democratic side being
Speaker 2: in the union, and you know, they had to do
Speaker 2: a standout on Friday for one of the representatives. I
Speaker 2: think that's running out by Boston somewhere.
Speaker 1: She was, well, she should not be compelled to do it. Well, Danielle,
Speaker 1: she should not be compelled to do one of those things.
Speaker 2: They're all going and.
Speaker 1: They're what, now, what what does she do? You don't
Speaker 1: what does she do?
Speaker 2: She's an engineer, operating engineer, operator.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, the union should not be able to force
Speaker 1: her to either. You know, she votes in the privacy
Speaker 1: of the ballot box. And if they say to her
Speaker 1: we're having a standout and you have to show up
Speaker 1: and hold a sign for someone, that union should not
Speaker 1: be able to do that. I mean, we're going to
Speaker 1: do a standout, and we would love all of you
Speaker 1: to join us in the standout. But people should not
Speaker 1: be forced to do a standout. I find that difficult
Speaker 1: to I can't accept that. I mean, because at that
Speaker 1: time you're being yeah, don't do it, don't do it.
Speaker 2: It isn't And it is interesting when I heard it
Speaker 2: was about three or four weeks ago now that the
Speaker 2: Teamsters announced that they weren't going to endorse Harris, and
Speaker 2: that didn't say they're endorsing Trump, but it's a pretty
Speaker 2: big statement that they were not willing to endorse the
Speaker 2: Democratic candidate.
Speaker 1: Because that's in the National Association of Firefighters, which is
Speaker 1: a huge union and traditionally has endorsed Democratic.
Speaker 2: So it's like they still don't want to upset their
Speaker 2: lobbyists and promoters and things like that. I think there
Speaker 2: are other influences out there that they don't want to upset,
Speaker 2: but they still are, you know, kind of diplomatically stating there.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's I think it's just, you know, look,
Speaker 1: I think it's a statement when you have former Republican
Speaker 1: elected officials who say, well, I'm a Republican and I
Speaker 1: can't tolerate Donald Trump, and I therefore I'm going to
Speaker 1: vote for Vice President Harris. I mean, you know, the
Speaker 1: Democrats are celebrating the fact that Dick and Liz Cheney
Speaker 1: are supporting Vice President Harris. There was no more despised
Speaker 1: Republican than Dick Cheney also aka Darth Vader.
Speaker 2: I know, I feel like this whole thing is very unpredictable.
Speaker 2: There's big, you know, famous people, music, performers and things
Speaker 2: that are coming out that are supporting her, and it's
Speaker 2: it's been surprising some people that I wouldn't expect. I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh wow, really, you know.
Speaker 1: Like who who surprised you?
Speaker 2: Eminem?
Speaker 1: I don't know the one. I mean, you got kid
Speaker 1: Rock or who's kid Rock is supporting? Uh Trump?
Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about Harris. You know some of them
Speaker 2: that I get that.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what what Eminem's politics are. Okay,
Speaker 1: I know Bruce Springsteen tell me the last time that
Speaker 1: that Springsteen endorsed the Republican not that not that I
Speaker 1: know of, right, you know, so at least you will
Speaker 1: acknowledge if Harris wins as a Trump supporter, that she
Speaker 1: is the president of the United States.
Speaker 2: And that's just the way that cookie crumbles. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's an election and someone wins and someone loses. So
Speaker 2: I mean you don't have a choice. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: like a baseball game if the Yankees beat the Red Sox.
Speaker 2: I like the Yankees, absolutely not, but they want I mean,
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do.
Speaker 1: Tonight?
Speaker 3: By the way, as long as.
Speaker 2: Everything's fair, did you hear about election boxes that in
Speaker 2: like Washington, Oregon? Being set on fire.
Speaker 1: Yeah, again, I want to see those stories. Unfortunately, I
Speaker 1: always want to know the source of those stories. I've
Speaker 1: seen some of that. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: I think I heard them because I listened to Buz
Speaker 2: all day and I think it was on on you know,
Speaker 2: blurb on one of the news.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, i'd love to. I'd love to, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'll try to get to get a reporter from
Speaker 1: out there. A lot of times we will carry a
Speaker 1: story because we've heard it somewhere. I want to know
Speaker 1: the story behind with what were the circumstances.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the Republicans out there that I
Speaker 2: think in doing milicias and don't don't do that. Don't
Speaker 2: don't give us a bad name. Just do it fairly
Speaker 2: recivic duty. Cast your vote and call it today and
Speaker 2: at the end, you know, and if with you, if
Speaker 2: everyone just does that, then we'll have a fair winner.
Speaker 2: And I think that we'll be happy with the results,
Speaker 2: be quite honest. So no one needs to.
Speaker 1: Let's hope the results. I hope it's decisial. Thanks Danielle.
Speaker 1: I gotta run him up my break, Happy Monday, you
Speaker 1: bet you all right? I gotta keep it rolling. Here,
Speaker 1: gotta take a quick break. I got Uh, Susan and Cambridge.
Speaker 1: I got Terry and Peabdy, Gregory in Dorchester, Mike and Lynn.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go into the second hour, and this I
Speaker 1: guarantee you, you know, the issues will be back on
Speaker 1: nightside after this. Now back to Dan Ray Mine from
Speaker 1: the Window World.
Speaker 3: Night six Studios on w b Z, the news radio.
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna try to get as many in
Speaker 1: as we can between now and eleven, but we're gonna
Speaker 1: go into the eleven We're gonna go into the eleven
Speaker 1: o'clock hour as well. Let me go next to Susan
Speaker 1: in Cambridge. Susan, want to get you in here, Go
Speaker 1: right ahead, Susan.
Speaker 3: Hi Hi.
Speaker 1: Dan.
Speaker 6: First of all, I just want to say, I see
Speaker 6: that there's a I feel like there's a big difference
Speaker 6: between the Teamsters and the union's non endorsement and the
Speaker 6: the UH newspapers. Because so the newspapers, actually the editorial
Speaker 6: boards did endorse Harris, the owners of each of those
Speaker 6: papers refused to UH, refuse to run with it.
Speaker 1: I think that's a distinction without a difference. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know that, by the way, that I'll accept
Speaker 1: what you're saying is true, but it seems to me that.
Speaker 6: I think that's a I think that's a very important
Speaker 6: point because you've got two billionaires who are basically, you know,
Speaker 6: just saying no, I'm gonna I'm gonna, you know, not
Speaker 6: not approve this, and even though the editorial pages have
Speaker 6: gone through you know, their normal process of doing this,
Speaker 6: and it's being rejected by you know, basically.
Speaker 5: All guard.
Speaker 6: And so yeah, I feel like I feel like that's
Speaker 6: a very important distinction, and the reasons to say.
Speaker 1: Okay, I get it, I get you. You feel it's
Speaker 1: an important distinction. I'm not going to try to change
Speaker 1: your mind to that. I got a question for you,
Speaker 1: ask everybody this question tonight. You you're going to be
Speaker 1: a I know for previous phone calls, you're going to
Speaker 1: be a Harris voter. No problem, right? Uh? If Trump
Speaker 1: were to win, will you acknowledge his victory?
Speaker 6: Yeah, as long as there's no you know, like states
Speaker 6: not you know, refusing to certify or fake electors or anything.
Speaker 6: So I have some normal election, I will. I will
Speaker 6: probably be out there in another women's march the next day,
Speaker 6: but I'll still you know, uh, you know, if he's
Speaker 6: properly elected, he's properly elected. But I can still, I
Speaker 6: can still you know, approach.
Speaker 1: No, that's fine, that's fine, that's fine. And so therefore,
Speaker 1: if Harris wins and people are out there protesting Harris,
Speaker 1: you'll you'll appreciate, you know, you want the country to
Speaker 1: continue to be this divided, is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: Why not take a pledge and say, look, whoever wins,
Speaker 1: we're going to give that person a chance. Don't have
Speaker 1: to support him, but we're not going to necessarily put
Speaker 1: on the pink cats the first day.
Speaker 6: Give him that person a chance, and that person rolled back,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you'll make an exceptionion for women. Yeah, fine, okay,
Speaker 1: Well again, I mean, you live in a country where
Speaker 1: if the majority of the people in this country say
Speaker 1: we're going to vote for Donald Trump, you really are
Speaker 1: not going to recognize him as president, is what you're
Speaker 1: telling you.
Speaker 6: I can recognize, I mean, hello, first man, I can
Speaker 6: recognize and say, you know, but I don't you know,
Speaker 6: the next election starts now, and you know, okay, well
Speaker 6: that's good.
Speaker 1: Well then I hope it goes the other way. So
Speaker 1: and so if Harris gets elected, the Trump people are
Speaker 1: going to be out in the street. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: basically say to people, they were going to lose this country.
Speaker 1: We're going to lose this country.
Speaker 6: If they want to protest, that's fine, as long as
Speaker 6: they're not saying that the results are somehow you.
Speaker 1: Know, well, they could say whatever they want, Susan, and
Speaker 1: we'll just keep it going from election to election. And
Speaker 1: I think that's dangerous for the country. You disagree with
Speaker 1: me on that, but that's my my My point is
Speaker 1: that we need to take a breather. And I don't
Speaker 1: care who wins. I don't care if it's Harris or
Speaker 1: if it's Trump. That person should be geting. That person
Speaker 1: should be given an opportunity to uh to to govern
Speaker 1: and protest whatever announcements they make or whatever like that,
Speaker 1: but be out in the streets the next day. It's
Speaker 1: just smacks of poor losers. Whoever does it, whoever does it?
Speaker 1: You know, That's all I'm saying in my opinion. Don't
Speaker 1: have to agree with me.
Speaker 6: And just one last thing on the Teamsters. While the
Speaker 6: head of it didn't endorse, many state branches did endorse Harris,
Speaker 6: and there are no states that endorsed Trump.
Speaker 1: Sixty the Teamsters. According to Sean O'Brien, sixty one percent
Speaker 1: of the Teamsters who were pulled supported Trump.
Speaker 6: I'm aware of that. I'm just saying that's so.
Speaker 1: You're aware of that or not? You're Are you aware
Speaker 1: of that?
Speaker 6: I was aware of that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: So therefore, therefore, therefore a majority of the union members
Speaker 1: supported Trump. And isn't the union supposed to support the
Speaker 1: other membership?
Speaker 6: I mean the tough question that.
Speaker 1: All right, Susan, I gotta get it one more in
Speaker 1: here before the preak. Okay, all right, thanks for Colin.
Speaker 1: As always, that was a tough question. Mike and Lynn
Speaker 1: Micah next on Nisa, go right ahead.
Speaker 3: Hey then mister, then, how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing great, Mike, you go right ahead. What's your
Speaker 1: take on all of this?
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you one thing. I watched a show
Speaker 3: on netsbacks and you went on a Whitey Bulger and
Speaker 3: he was driving a Highlander, a white one to your
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 5: Have a lot of.
Speaker 3: Respect for you.
Speaker 1: I was driving a white Highlander, yes, with Whitey Bulger.
Speaker 3: And you want to you you were saying the show
Speaker 3: about Whitey Bulger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did stories on Whitey Bulger. But I don't
Speaker 1: understand how what what what does a white highlander have
Speaker 1: to be? I'm confused, man, because.
Speaker 3: You are a man. I have a lot of respect
Speaker 3: for you. I've gotta tell you what I think. I
Speaker 3: think Pamela should win. I should be a president. And
Speaker 3: the reason why because she's a good person. She's a
Speaker 3: good person. Uh, Donald Trump, you know, I got to
Speaker 3: tell you this. I came to America in nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 5: I become.
Speaker 3: Citizen nineteen ninety three, and now I'm an instructor. I
Speaker 3: teach people how to drive a train on the green line.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: And this person, Donald Trump, he doesn't understand the fact
Speaker 3: is like he thinks like it's all about America. It's
Speaker 3: all about And I think I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 3: I'm a foreigner. I've been here for almost two.
Speaker 1: You're a US citizen. You're a US citizen, man, Yes,
Speaker 1: I am. Yeah, So you're not a foreigner. Why do
Speaker 1: you why do you consider yourself a foreigner? You're a
Speaker 1: US citizen, yes.
Speaker 3: But I am a I am honored to become an
Speaker 3: American citizen.
Speaker 1: Right, That's what I say. You're no longer a foreigner
Speaker 1: a US citizen. Mike. Come on, now, I was lucky
Speaker 1: enough to be born here. You actually, I think theoretically,
Speaker 1: are are a better citizen me because you chose to
Speaker 1: come to this country. I was simply had the good
Speaker 1: fortune of being born here.
Speaker 3: It's a great country.
Speaker 1: You're just as much a US citizens as anyone who's
Speaker 1: born here. Now, once you become a naturalized citizen, I
Speaker 1: don't understand why why you consider yourself a foreigner.
Speaker 3: I do consider myself a foreigner because America took me
Speaker 3: and give me home. I have a house, I make money,
Speaker 3: and I am okay.
Speaker 1: So I hate to do this to you, Mike, but
Speaker 1: I'm getting a little lost in the argument here. And
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. When the election results are
Speaker 1: announced a week from now or eight nights, seven nights,
Speaker 1: six nights, and not six nights, eight nine, ten nights
Speaker 1: from now, will you recognize whoever wins the election as
Speaker 1: the president of the United States.
Speaker 3: I do, I will, but I really will love my girl,
Speaker 3: Carmela Harris to become a president, because you know what
Speaker 3: it is. I want it first, Carmela Harris, and the
Speaker 3: second I wanted she'd become a president, because what it
Speaker 3: is is.
Speaker 1: Is there an issue that that that that makes you
Speaker 1: want her? Is there a specific issue that that makes
Speaker 1: you want her to be president?
Speaker 3: There is no issue. The only issue is she's honest
Speaker 3: and truthful.
Speaker 1: I see. Okay, right, Okay, I got you, and uh again,
Speaker 1: congratulations are becoming a citizen and don't think of yourself
Speaker 1: as a foreigner. Think of yourself as a United States
Speaker 1: citizen and be proud of Okay, thank you, Mike, have
Speaker 1: a great night. I still doesn't understand what the white
Speaker 1: Highlander and Whitey Bulgier to do with anything, but that's okay, Okay, Greg,
Speaker 1: Matt and Marty stay right there. Be back on nights side.
Speaker 1: We got a couple of openlines six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 1: ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 1: Why is it so difficult for people to say, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going to vote. I hope my person wins, be
Speaker 1: it Harris or Trump, but I will abide by the
Speaker 1: results of the election. I'm not going to be like
Speaker 1: Susan and reach for my pink hat the next day. Okay.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Pretty simple stuff, folks. If you don't think we're a
Speaker 1: badly divided country. Come on, I want to hear some
Speaker 1: people who actually understand what America is all about coming
Speaker 1: back on Nightside