WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.960 --> 00:00:04.799 You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM 2 00:00:04.839 --> 00:00:05.759 six forty. 3 00:00:06.759 --> 00:00:10.679 Bill Handle here. It is a Wednesday morning, November twenty seven. 4 00:00:10.919 --> 00:00:14.439 By the way, you're looking for Will Amy. Will is 5 00:00:14.480 --> 00:00:18.000 with Neil right now, not here on KFI. 6 00:00:19.039 --> 00:00:21.079 Just Will it's supposed to be here with us. 7 00:00:21.239 --> 00:00:23.640 Yes, yeah, I understand, we'll get Yeah. 8 00:00:23.679 --> 00:00:26.320 Welcome to live radio. That's what I love about this 9 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:28.839 program and others here on KFI. We're about as live 10 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:29.519 as you can get. 11 00:00:29.839 --> 00:00:30.920 All right, Tomorrow. 12 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:33.920 Thanksgiving Day, Neil will be here from six to nine 13 00:00:33.920 --> 00:00:37.960 o'clock doing his Thanksgiving show, call in tips for cooking. 14 00:00:38.240 --> 00:00:41.560 Amy will still be here and coming up next week Pastathon. 15 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:45.719 Go to KFIAM six forty dot com slash pastathon. 16 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:47.039 For all the information. Hope to see you guys there. 17 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:52.679 Also bottom of the hour, Rod Pile, I'm going to 18 00:00:52.719 --> 00:00:54.840 talk about the asteroid that's going to take out Earth 19 00:00:55.640 --> 00:00:59.000 in just a couple of years. Doctor Jim Keaney at 20 00:00:59.000 --> 00:01:00.520 eight thirty. We had a fun day to day and 21 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:04.439 then ask handle anything. We're starting to do that and 22 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:07.359 see how it works. Where you call in, you record 23 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:09.239 questions that I don't know what they are. I hear 24 00:01:09.280 --> 00:01:11.439 them for the first time and I answer them, ask 25 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:16.719 handle anything. And last time it was incredibly humiliating for me. Okay, guys, 26 00:01:17.439 --> 00:01:20.640 Ron DeSantis remember him, kind of hard to forget, the 27 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:25.280 governor of Florida, and one of his more famous phrases 28 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:30.239 and referen and referring to his state, Florida is the 29 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:36.760 state where woke comes to die. And guess what woke 30 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:40.599 is a die in? Walmart just rolled back. It's the 31 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:45.920 EI program. That's diversity, Equity and inclusion is what that 32 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:49.560 stands for. And it's the latest company to backtrack on 33 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:51.799 these diversity initiatives. 34 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:54.439 In the face of a couple of things. Right wing pressure, 35 00:01:54.840 --> 00:01:57.400 big time, you know, the right wing. 36 00:01:57.480 --> 00:02:00.319 I mean we with the election of Donald Trump, we're 37 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:03.959 swinging hard right in this country. It's just that simple. 38 00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:06.040 And we voted for it. You know, it's not as 39 00:02:06.040 --> 00:02:08.919 if the election was stolen. It's hey, the people of 40 00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:12.960 America voted for this kind of way. 41 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:14.439 America is going to go. 42 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:15.080 Now. 43 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:19.039 Welcome to you know, welcome to America. It's a free country. 44 00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:22.919 And so part of what's happening now is the whole 45 00:02:22.919 --> 00:02:29.680 idea of wokeness, diversity, inclusion, LBGTQ rights. 46 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:34.319 You go on and on minority rights and why is 47 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:36.599 that falling apart? Well, two reasons. 48 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:41.879 One, as I said, you've got a lot of pressure 49 00:02:41.960 --> 00:02:45.879 coming in from the right, you have lawsuits that are 50 00:02:45.879 --> 00:02:48.719 flying like crazy, and you have something called the pendulum, 51 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:53.879 and the pendulum swings. And we go back to twenty 52 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:59.960 twenty the murder of George Floyd, and that exploded America 53 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:04.039 in a big way. It showed how bad the police 54 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:09.240 departments can be, I think, aberrationally, but there was also 55 00:03:10.039 --> 00:03:13.479 systematic problems going on with the many police forces. And 56 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:16.439 then out of all that comes a whole new way 57 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:20.719 of viewing America. Minorities are treated horribly and they are 58 00:03:20.759 --> 00:03:26.080 to some extent lbgkey rights. Heretofore ignored a lot of discrimination, 59 00:03:26.400 --> 00:03:28.319 I mean, and it went pretty far to the point 60 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:31.599 where you know, police departments, people are running on the 61 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:35.680 premise police departments should not just be defunded. Defunded means 62 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:40.360 you just take away you take away money, budgets from 63 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:43.840 the police department, but dismantled, let's get rid. 64 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:48.159 Of the police. That was a thing. That's a movement. 65 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:51.759 Of course that all disappeared because it went a little 66 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:57.560 bit too far. And since we are all turning right America. 67 00:03:57.199 --> 00:03:58.240 Is not all of us are. 68 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:03.879 But you have the left, which is I'm going to 69 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:11.159 equate diversity, inclusion, LBGTQ rights, women's rights, reproductive rights pretty 70 00:04:11.199 --> 00:04:17.079 much with the liberal side of politics and American philosophy. Well, 71 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:20.959 look what Supreme Court has done with reproductive rights Roe v. 72 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:22.319 Wade, very conservative. 73 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:27.680 Look what governors like DeSantis are saying. 74 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:28.800 And that's gaining real strength. 75 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:31.959 Look at the southern legislatures, Look at other than the 76 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:33.199 East and West coast. 77 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:37.480 Everything in the middle is not a big fan of 78 00:04:37.600 --> 00:04:40.319 Die DEI. 79 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:43.360 And you have major corporations that are all over the 80 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:45.519 place and they're going, you know what this is hurting us. 81 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:51.639 This is remember Anheuser Busch with bud Budweiser. 82 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:55.680 And they had this gay influencer, trans influencer. 83 00:04:57.160 --> 00:05:00.680 Now, normally would a corporation do that, I would. 84 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:04.759 Okay, because I happen to be a big fan of 85 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:08.399 trands and gay rights and always have been, so to me, 86 00:05:08.680 --> 00:05:10.120 I would make that business decision. 87 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:10.959 I would go broke. 88 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:15.399 They figured, and we're talking about the company lost one 89 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:22.120 point five billion dollars in sales. Budwiser, after being the 90 00:05:22.480 --> 00:05:25.439 largest most popular brand of beer in the world, fell 91 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:30.519 the second because of this, and so the pensulum has 92 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:34.240 swung its di is going away. 93 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:36.160 And by the way, other companies are doing the same thing. 94 00:05:37.160 --> 00:05:39.759 A lot of them are coming back realizing we have 95 00:05:39.839 --> 00:05:43.079 to move back towards the middle. You've got legal cases 96 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:45.680 going going to see those going all over the place, 97 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:51.000 because when you talk about those that believe in minority rights, 98 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:57.319 affirmative action, for example, where minorities are given preference, where 99 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:02.560 minorities are accepted and not deemed to have the same 100 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:06.879 qualifications per the schools, by the way, per what the 101 00:06:06.920 --> 00:06:10.800 school says the qualifications, and who goes, who's at the 102 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:14.439 top of this and who isn't when those are all 103 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:22.160 going away with the courts and even here okay, and 104 00:06:22.240 --> 00:06:25.480 I've been here for a lot of decades here at KFI, 105 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:29.519 and I just this morning show, this one. I'm not 106 00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:31.759 this morning but I'm talking about the morning show itself. 107 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:35.439 We've been doing this show for thirty one years. That 108 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:37.639 was the first time I opened the mic and said, 109 00:06:37.639 --> 00:06:38.680 welcome to the morning show. 110 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:42.360 This is Bill Handle. And at that point I could 111 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:43.360 say anything I wanted. 112 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:49.639 Man, we were cutting edge, and then cutting edge became 113 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:54.399 a very different definition, especially through twenty twenty and or 114 00:06:54.600 --> 00:06:58.639 the Me Too movement, the Black Lives Matter movement, and 115 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:01.319 we got and by the way, I don't necessarily disagree 116 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:04.079 with a lot of it, it became a lot more 117 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:08.759 woke where we had to pull back so much that 118 00:07:09.040 --> 00:07:14.000 the show had to change. Here comes the pendulum. You 119 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:19.000 know what, I'm having more fun. I'm offending more groups. 120 00:07:20.360 --> 00:07:24.399 I am pissing off more people. I am making more 121 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:28.560 fun of your ethnicity and your penis size and your 122 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:32.759 inability to sing or to sing, or your body or 123 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:36.399 your body weight, or just go on and on and on. 124 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:42.839 And now I'm back to offending everybody. And I wonder 125 00:07:42.879 --> 00:07:44.839 if we can go back to where we were. I 126 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:47.399 can't even say what we used to do. I mean, 127 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:51.040 it was that much fun. But at least we're moving 128 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:54.319 back towards what I think is a middle ground. And 129 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:57.759 I think that companies are pulling back because not only 130 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:03.000 was this woke business, but it was also a political statement. 131 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:04.040 That's another thing. 132 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:08.680 Part of all this was where companies making political statements, 133 00:08:08.680 --> 00:08:11.959 and usually corporations would stay away from politics. 134 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:13.399 You couldn't be within one hundred. 135 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:15.720 Miles of a political statement if you were a corporation. 136 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:19.240 Now you're all over the place, Disney all over the way. 137 00:08:19.279 --> 00:08:24.480 Remember guys couldn't have long hair, women couldn't have mustaches, 138 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:27.279 and they changed that where they're now allowed to do that. 139 00:08:27.399 --> 00:08:29.759 It is all different ethnic groups. And I'm not going 140 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:33.399 to go into you know, women, Okay, that's enough of that. 141 00:08:34.279 --> 00:08:39.440 It's just wokeness is moving away very very quickly. And 142 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:41.480 I think a lot of the baby with the bathwater 143 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:46.960 is going on too, I truly do. Okay, Now women 144 00:08:47.120 --> 00:08:52.480 are boycotting Thanksgiving. Actually, it's you know, we're back to 145 00:08:53.240 --> 00:08:56.519 with the election of Donald Trump. We are back to 146 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:01.799 the Civil War in terms of how Americans feel about 147 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:07.360 this election. It's the Grays versus Blues. It's brother against brother. 148 00:09:08.399 --> 00:09:12.919 The feelings are that strong. And it's really coming out 149 00:09:12.960 --> 00:09:20.039 this Thankgivings, this Thanksgiving, where entire swatches of Americans, particularly women, 150 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:24.919 are boycotting Thanksgiving, not Thanksgiving per se. I mean they're 151 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:30.600 fine with Thanksgiving. Their boycotting Thanksgiving with family members. 152 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:34.919 Who voted for Trump. That is how upset and it 153 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:35.679 really is. 154 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:40.960 It's not Trump's supporters boycotting people that voted for Harris. 155 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:45.200 It's the other way around. In terms of my experience. 156 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:54.480 And the amount, the level of misunderstanding or not understanding 157 00:09:54.559 --> 00:10:00.759 what happens. Being shell shocked looking at people accept what 158 00:10:00.840 --> 00:10:03.600 Donald Trump believes in and has represented. It is so 159 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:07.080 shocking to folks that entire families are being disrupted. I 160 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:10.519 live with someone like that, and it is very tough 161 00:10:10.559 --> 00:10:15.000 to see. I'm not as affected, but she certainly is. 162 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:19.320 And she spends a lot of time on social media 163 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:22.879 and does a lot of instagramming, and has a lot 164 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:25.759 of friends and is always showing me, look at this, 165 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:30.399 look at this, and it's astounding how many family members, 166 00:10:30.440 --> 00:10:36.679 how many families have become disrupted. I mean, I was 167 00:10:36.759 --> 00:10:42.759 kind of stunned about this that you Thanksgiving. Can you 168 00:10:42.759 --> 00:10:47.960 imagine families not to getting together on Thanksgiving because of politics, 169 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:52.320 not because Uncle Harold is a falling down drunk and 170 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:57.600 disrupts everybody, Or you don't want Aunt Mamy there. 171 00:10:57.519 --> 00:10:59.799 Because well it's uncle Harold puts on a. 172 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:03.559 Puts on a lampshade and pretends it's a hat and 173 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:06.919 walks around. I can see families saying, no, we don't 174 00:11:06.960 --> 00:11:11.200 want anybody there who disrupts or is obnoxious. 175 00:11:11.240 --> 00:11:16.519 No, this is straight politics. This is straight politics. You 176 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:20.440 voted for Trump. I want nothing to do with you. 177 00:11:21.960 --> 00:11:25.039 And I keep on saying, hey, listen, this is America. 178 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:29.799 Americans did this. Oh my god, look at the three 179 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:32.000 Supreme Court justice and Roe v. 180 00:11:32.120 --> 00:11:39.039 Wade disappeared. This is America. The rules were followed. You 181 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:43.679 had a sitting president who, under the rules of the Constitution, 182 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:50.519 nominates Supreme Court justices. You had a sitting Senate that confirms, 183 00:11:51.639 --> 00:11:52.399 and it just so happened. 184 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:52.759 You had a. 185 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:59.000 Republican president a Republican Senate, and that's how three nominees 186 00:11:59.080 --> 00:12:01.960 came through and change the whole tenor of the Court. 187 00:12:02.120 --> 00:12:04.240 That's the way it works. Those are the rules. 188 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:08.320 You may be unhappy with it. I mean, I'm not thrilled. 189 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:11.320 I happen to believe in the concept of ro v weight. 190 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:15.960 Although legally it's a very interesting argument that the president. 191 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:17.720 Oh my god, there's been around forever. It's been around 192 00:12:17.720 --> 00:12:20.679 since nineteen seventy three Row, and there was a lot 193 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:23.799 of argument that it shouldn't have been decided the way 194 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:27.440 it was in nineteen seventy three. Now again I'm on 195 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:30.120 the other side of the coin on that one, but 196 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:35.679 there's some real solid legal premise and legal argument why 197 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:39.320 Rose should have never been decided the way it was, 198 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:45.840 and so it's the rules, and now entire families are 199 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:49.840 being upset, and it's true. I mean I have I 200 00:12:49.879 --> 00:12:52.480 gotta tell you. I shake my head and I see 201 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:56.600 conversations and I hear conversations, and to the level that 202 00:12:56.720 --> 00:13:02.000 people are engaged in hating each other, this time around 203 00:13:02.080 --> 00:13:04.840 has been very, very difficult. As you know, I'm not 204 00:13:04.879 --> 00:13:07.240 a huge fan of Donald Trump. I've said that over 205 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:09.360 and over and over again. I think there's going to 206 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:13.080 be a lot wrong with the administration coming in, but 207 00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:18.879 the level of the hatred for him his policies is 208 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:21.679 crazy anti gay, although I don't think he's particularly anti gay, 209 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:23.639 and by the way, I don't think he's. 210 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:26.080 Particularly against reproductive rights. 211 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:29.960 I think the only reason that he was was to 212 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:33.039 go after the evangelical vote. I was simply a pragmatic 213 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:35.519 approach because I don't think Trump believes. 214 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:36.000 Much of anything. 215 00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:39.919 No, he believes in border security that he does, he 216 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:44.480 believes in tariffs that he does. He believes in isolationism 217 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:49.080 America first that he does, but those are his core beliefs. 218 00:13:49.879 --> 00:13:50.840 The rest of them, I. 219 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:54.879 Don't think so, And why is he going to continue 220 00:13:55.919 --> 00:13:59.519 being on the side of anti abortion because to him, 221 00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:02.120 the other thing he believes in more than anything else 222 00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:06.320 is loyalty. And if someone is loyal to him, look 223 00:14:06.320 --> 00:14:09.840 at the cabinet nominations. If someone is loyal to him, 224 00:14:10.120 --> 00:14:14.720 he is loyal to them, notwithstanding anything else. And the 225 00:14:14.759 --> 00:14:20.639 fallout of this is we are so polarized. We are 226 00:14:21.000 --> 00:14:24.000 We used to talk about how polarized we were. Man, 227 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:28.759 it doesn't hold a candle to what's happening today. 228 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:31.600 And it's it's horrible to see. 229 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:36.639 And Thanks Thanksgiving dinners falling apart. 230 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:40.799 Is I mean, have we really gotten there? Yeah? I 231 00:14:40.840 --> 00:14:42.919 guess we have. I guess we have. 232 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:47.080 It's tough, it really is. I mean, with my Emily, 233 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:49.759 we don't talk politics. We talked turkey. 234 00:14:49.879 --> 00:14:53.519 Huh strong, huh. 235 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:57.679 Okay, let's go ahead and take a break because I'm on. 236 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:01.039 By the way, have you a little real quickly survey says, 237 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:06.799 and have you experienced not necessarily your family members, but 238 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:09.440 in general family members being. 239 00:15:10.840 --> 00:15:12.000 Divide? This divisive? 240 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:15.559 I know that other families are, Okay, this is pretty 241 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:16.559 much on the same page. 242 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:19.799 Okay, Yeah, I have heard from friends who are sitting 243 00:15:19.840 --> 00:15:22.559 it out. Yeah, the family gatherings out, which is really 244 00:15:22.960 --> 00:15:23.519 really hard. 245 00:15:23.600 --> 00:15:27.840 Amy have you seen it either personally or amongst people 246 00:15:27.879 --> 00:15:28.159 you know? 247 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:32.440 Not with not with my close circle. We're all fine, okay, 248 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:36.200 Like my family knows like that. We're there's a couple 249 00:15:36.279 --> 00:15:38.720 of us who were on pretty polar opposites and have 250 00:15:38.840 --> 00:15:40.480 been for years, and so we just don't talk about 251 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:40.679 it near. 252 00:15:40.879 --> 00:15:45.440 Okay, fair enough. Kno, I've lost friends, have you? 253 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:46.639 Yeah? 254 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:49.840 That's interesting. Yeah. And if I had friends to lose, 255 00:15:49.840 --> 00:15:55.159 I would have lost friends. Okay. Rod Pyle, co host 256 00:15:55.159 --> 00:15:56.559 of This Week in Space. 257 00:15:56.639 --> 00:15:59.759 On the iHeart app been wherever you listen to podcasts. 258 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:04.320 His website pilebooks dot com, p y l e books 259 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:04.960 dot com. 260 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:07.080 Good morning, Pile, good morning. 261 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:12.759 Now, I'm fine, let me uh, excellent, Okay, I wanted 262 00:16:12.759 --> 00:16:14.000 to get rid of the frog in my throat. 263 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:14.240 Now. 264 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:21.039 We have all seen science fiction movies about asteroids hitting 265 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:21.480 the Earth. 266 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:23.679 We know the dinosaurs became extinct. 267 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:27.240 I think the Gulf of Mexico happened because of an asteroid. 268 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:27.879 Uh. 269 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:31.240 And we know that at some point the well, the 270 00:16:31.679 --> 00:16:34.399 US comes close all the time, the Earth comes close 271 00:16:34.440 --> 00:16:34.919 all the time. 272 00:16:35.519 --> 00:16:36.879 There, I want you to comment on this. 273 00:16:36.960 --> 00:16:40.480 The European Space Agency has just given a go ahead, 274 00:16:40.879 --> 00:16:44.440 uh for a mission to visit an asteroid called. 275 00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:50.200 At which is Greek for you are going to die. 276 00:16:50.200 --> 00:16:51.200 So exactly. 277 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:53.600 Yeah, So let's talk about this because this is a 278 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:54.120 real thing. 279 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:57.639 This is not sci fi. I mean, we're really talking about. 280 00:16:57.399 --> 00:17:00.720 Something that is out there I'm assuming eventually will. 281 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:04.359 Happen probably, And you know, the Solo system's a bit 282 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:06.279 of a shooting gallery. There's a lot of stuff left 283 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:09.640 over from the early formation, big chunks of ice, rocks 284 00:17:09.680 --> 00:17:13.640 like Apophus, big blobs of gravel drifting around out there. 285 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:16.440 So there's stuff whizzing past us and entering the atmosphere 286 00:17:16.440 --> 00:17:18.960 all the time. What we get worried about are these 287 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:22.000 asteroids they call near Earth objects that are big enough 288 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:24.599 to cause problems. So if Pophus is about fifteen hundred 289 00:17:24.599 --> 00:17:29.240 feet across, it lasts passed Earth on twenty twenty one 290 00:17:29.319 --> 00:17:33.319 in March, and it's been an object of concern since 291 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:38.000 two thousand roughly. But JPL and NASA keep getting better 292 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:41.359 and better readings on it and have been able to 293 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:43.640 determine that it's going to miss us by about twenty 294 00:17:43.680 --> 00:17:44.440 thousand miles. 295 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:47.880 Yeah, that's nothing. We're gonna be able to see it, aren't. 296 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:49.480 We Yeah, we'll be able to see it with the 297 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:51.599 naked eye. You won't see the features or to see 298 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:55.279 hopefully a bright spot when the sun's hitting it. But yeah, 299 00:17:55.279 --> 00:17:58.759 in cosmic terms, that's a whisker. And the next time 300 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:02.359 it comes around or after that, which is I think 301 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:05.359 twenty thirty six and twenty sixty, it may. 302 00:18:05.240 --> 00:18:06.119 Be a little closer. 303 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:08.799 But they don't see any real danger of impact for 304 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:09.759 about one hundred years. 305 00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:11.240 But it's a city killer for sure. 306 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:16.599 That's crazy and I assume that, and we've talked about this. 307 00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:19.440 The only way we are going to actually be able 308 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:21.480 to do anything like an atomic bomb bowling it up. 309 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:23.880 That doesn't do anything. It's just the pieces come and 310 00:18:23.920 --> 00:18:27.319 there's smaller pieces than a lot of them. It's nudging 311 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:31.079 it out of the way when they discover one that's 312 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:34.960 really going to come nearer or hit the earth. Where 313 00:18:35.039 --> 00:18:37.839 is that in terms of science or reality? 314 00:18:38.359 --> 00:18:41.119 So for decades we had known about this. 315 00:18:41.319 --> 00:18:44.000 The people I work with National Space Society have a 316 00:18:44.039 --> 00:18:47.519 big department working on this, and the idea was, look, 317 00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:49.480 we really got to get busy, guys and do something 318 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:52.079 about this, because it's not a matter of if it's when, 319 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:55.640 and statistically we're overdue for something an impact like this. 320 00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:59.079 So NASA put together a mission called DART, which stands 321 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:05.119 for double ass Rays Redirect, Double Asteroid Redirect, Yeah, mission, 322 00:19:05.559 --> 00:19:08.920 And the idea was to send a spacecraft up and 323 00:19:08.960 --> 00:19:11.000 it's only about side of the golf cart, and its 324 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:13.759 only purpose in life was to find the asteroid and 325 00:19:13.799 --> 00:19:17.720 smack into it, in this case, a little asteroid orbiting 326 00:19:17.759 --> 00:19:20.960 a bigger asteroid called detamos. And it did it, and 327 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:23.440 the effect was not just noticeable, it was actually much 328 00:19:23.440 --> 00:19:24.680 bigger than they thought it would be. 329 00:19:24.799 --> 00:19:25.319 So we knew. 330 00:19:25.319 --> 00:19:28.480 We know, if we find them early enough, we can 331 00:19:28.599 --> 00:19:30.799 nudge them off. Course, you know, if you remember your 332 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:34.319 high school geometry, you may need something bigger if it's 333 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:36.319 closer when you spot it, and that's when you start 334 00:19:36.319 --> 00:19:39.400 talking about either nudging it with a nuclear explosion or 335 00:19:39.440 --> 00:19:42.480 even possibly attaching rockers rocket motors to it to push 336 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:43.079 it out of the way. 337 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:47.680 So I'm assuming, depending on the size of the asteroid 338 00:19:47.920 --> 00:19:50.359 and depending on how far out it is, and I'm 339 00:19:50.359 --> 00:19:54.480 assuming depending on the speed that it's heading towards us, 340 00:19:55.160 --> 00:19:59.920 there's some magic formula there that landing on the asteroid 341 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:02.839 just literally giving it just the tiniest little push is 342 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:03.720 going to do it. 343 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:07.200 We hope, and you know, we know they can do 344 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:09.440 that math because it was only a few years ago 345 00:20:09.599 --> 00:20:13.680 that the Osiris REX mission rendezvous with an asteroid called 346 00:20:13.680 --> 00:20:16.759 Benu and grabbed a sample. And in fact, once Osiris 347 00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:19.720 REX dropped that sample off back at Earth, which they're 348 00:20:19.839 --> 00:20:23.680 looking at now, it was repurposed to go rendezvous with 349 00:20:24.759 --> 00:20:28.240 this asteroid Apophus in twenty twenty I just after it 350 00:20:28.319 --> 00:20:31.240 passes by US, and the European mission which is called 351 00:20:31.880 --> 00:20:34.279 RAMSES is going to rendezvous with it just before it 352 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:35.079 passes by US. 353 00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:40.160 So the pictures that were taken on that spacecraft that 354 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:44.599 went and landed on the asteroid whatever its name was, 355 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:48.880 and the photos as it was approaching the asteroid, I 356 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:54.160 think the last one was like a few hundred feet. 357 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:53.440 Or just. 358 00:20:54.880 --> 00:20:59.359 Literally yards away. Extraordinary see an asteroid that close up. 359 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:01.319 It really was amazing. 360 00:21:01.359 --> 00:21:03.880 And it just kissed it just enough to pick up 361 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:06.359 that sample and bring it back. And one thing is 362 00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:08.839 this thing about these big asteroids. So the track about 363 00:21:08.839 --> 00:21:12.319 thirty five thousand of these neurot objects. The danger points 364 00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:14.400 are when they cross the Earth's orbit when we're in 365 00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:16.359 the way, that's what you don't want to be there, right, 366 00:21:17.319 --> 00:21:21.039 But one of the things that's become clear over the 367 00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:23.599 last few decades is a lot of these aren't rocks. 368 00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:26.519 They're just big piles of gravel. So they still pack 369 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:28.119 a lot of energy, but. 370 00:21:28.920 --> 00:21:32.319 Not as dangerous, not as dangerous as dangerous. 371 00:21:32.680 --> 00:21:36.400 Okay, Rod, thanks, this just came out and it was 372 00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:38.160 of course they had to get your opinion on this, 373 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:41.200 and unfortunately, we're not going to lose cities here. God, 374 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:44.880 that would be so entertaining. You talk about ratings, right, 375 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:46.759 New York has gone. 376 00:21:46.519 --> 00:21:49.480 Well, let's say one of them. Mind, I'm going to 377 00:21:49.559 --> 00:21:53.079 talk about another. You know what city do we wiped 378 00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:54.920 out for the purposes of this show that we feel 379 00:21:54.960 --> 00:21:56.519 comfortable with? All right? 380 00:21:56.799 --> 00:21:58.640 We always laugh at Barstows, so there. 381 00:21:58.519 --> 00:22:00.799 There you go. I feel better for no Barstow. That 382 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:01.559 always works out. 383 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:05.720 Unless you really like sheep, then it's a big problem, all. 384 00:22:05.680 --> 00:22:06.839 Right, Rod. Thank you. 385 00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:11.359 This week in space on the iHeart app and other platforms, 386 00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:15.720 pilebooks dot com. Pyl ebooks dot com one of the 387 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:16.759 best websites out there. 388 00:22:16.799 --> 00:22:19.799 If you're all interested in space, we'll catch again, Rod. 389 00:22:19.880 --> 00:22:24.599 Thank you. Take care all right. Mood Dang. 390 00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:26.839 Now, I don't know if you've heard of Moodang, but 391 00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:28.839 a lot of people around the world have heard of 392 00:22:28.880 --> 00:22:32.680 Moodan And it is a love affair with this little 393 00:22:32.680 --> 00:22:37.079 baby hippo. Baby elephants and hippos are so cute. I mean, 394 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:39.200 when hippos grow up, they eat you. They're in the 395 00:22:39.240 --> 00:22:42.880 most dangerous animals in Africa. But when they're little babies, 396 00:22:42.920 --> 00:22:47.440 they're cute as hell. And the world is fall in 397 00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:53.160 love with this pygmy hippo moo ding souvenirs and costumes. 398 00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:55.799 She's out of Thailand or she lives in Thailand, and 399 00:22:55.799 --> 00:23:00.240 her zoo keeper and this is something that is These 400 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:03.440 are zoo keepers that have a lot of brains. Anyway, 401 00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:08.119