1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:05,559 Speaker 1: What's going on. 2 00:00:05,759 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. It 3 00:00:08,199 --> 00:00:10,080 is heard live every day from noon to three on 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,839 WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you want exclusive content 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,160 like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, my daily 6 00:00:17,199 --> 00:00:19,440 show prep with all the links, become a patron, go 7 00:00:19,519 --> 00:00:23,399 to thepeteclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the subscribe button. 8 00:00:23,399 --> 00:00:26,320 Get every episode for free, write to your smartphone or tablet, 9 00:00:26,359 --> 00:00:29,280 and again, thank you so much for your support. So 10 00:00:29,399 --> 00:00:33,280 last hour I mentioned us AID or USAID. It stands 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:38,960 for the agency well us United States Agency for International 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:47,439 Development us AID. And there's a great gnashing of the teeth, 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,479 clutching of the pearls, fainting onto the fainting couches as 14 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:59,439 one does over efforts to rain in and dismantle this behemoth. 15 00:01:00,479 --> 00:01:06,680 UH that has been accused of funding the Wuhan Lab research, UH, 16 00:01:06,719 --> 00:01:12,640 the misinformation complex, color revolutions in other countries. UH, and 17 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,400 a couple of terrorist charities just thrown in for good measure. 18 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,599 So uh, I mean, aside from that, it does some 19 00:01:18,799 --> 00:01:21,040 very valuable work. People are going to starve if you 20 00:01:21,159 --> 00:01:26,920 don't give them money us AI. D oh. And also 21 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,239 this just came down that Donald Trump wrote signed an 22 00:01:30,239 --> 00:01:41,879 executive order to defund UNRUAH. The UN sorry, UN Human 23 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:49,680 Rights Council, UH pulled us out of that, and yeah, yeah, 24 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:55,319 and to stop U n r w A funding. U 25 00:01:55,400 --> 00:02:00,640 n r w A or UNRAH is the the shell, 26 00:02:00,879 --> 00:02:05,560 the front company, if you will, in Gaza. This is 27 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:12,120 where hostages, upon their release from the Islamic jih Hottists Hamas, 28 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:22,479 they've reported being kept hidden, held prisoner in UNRAH homes, facilities, schools. Right, 29 00:02:22,879 --> 00:02:26,039 they are part of the problem. And so Trump has 30 00:02:26,599 --> 00:02:32,680 signed an executive order to stop funding that horrible, evil organization. 31 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:37,000 So I'm fine with that too. Yes, this is what 32 00:02:37,039 --> 00:02:39,800 we meant when we said we don't want to fund it. 33 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,840 That's what we meant. Trump is fulfilling the promises. I 34 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,560 think I mentioned this the other day. Maybe not, but 35 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,439 so I'll say it again. I was watching an interview 36 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:54,400 that Bill O'Reilly gave to Piers Morgan on Piers Morgan 37 00:02:54,520 --> 00:03:00,719 Show Uncensored, and O'Reilly said that he met with Trump. 38 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,159 I think it was a little bit before the inauguration. 39 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,960 O'Reilly went down to mar A Lago and he had, 40 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,360 you know, ate lunch with Trump or whatever. And Trump 41 00:03:11,439 --> 00:03:16,479 asked Bill O'Reilly what Bill thought Trump needed to do 42 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,360 to be the greatest president ever, because that's what that's 43 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,800 important to Donald Trump. He wants to go down in 44 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,400 history as one of the greatest presidents ever, if not 45 00:03:26,599 --> 00:03:31,520 the greatest president ever, right, And O'Reilly gave him one 46 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:38,560 piece of advice. He said, fulfill your campaign promises. That's it. 47 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,080 It sounds very easy to do. You made all these promises. 48 00:03:42,159 --> 00:03:43,759 Now just do the things you said you would do, 49 00:03:44,599 --> 00:03:47,039 and you'll go down as one of the greatest, if 50 00:03:47,039 --> 00:03:51,039 not the greatest president. And it kind of seems like 51 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,080 Trump may have taken that piece of advice. I'm sure 52 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,719 he had already, you know, thought about it, and he 53 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,039 was already planning to do it himself and build it 54 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,759 and tell him anything he didn't already know and whatever, whatever, whatever. 55 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,840 But I found that to be kind of interesting because 56 00:04:05,879 --> 00:04:07,759 I saw this interview I don't know, a couple weeks ago. 57 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,719 It was like right after the inauguration, and then you 58 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,319 see this start unfolding, and it's like, yeah, like they 59 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,240 have hit the ground running. They have discombobulated the Democrats 60 00:04:19,319 --> 00:04:21,800 and the media. But I repeat myself, and they don't 61 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,079 know how to respond. There's so much stuff going on. 62 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,319 I have a hard time, you know, putting together the 63 00:04:28,399 --> 00:04:32,079 show every day because the stuff I put together then 64 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,399 becomes sort of old news like an hour later. That's 65 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,279 no way to prep for a show, Pete. So there's 66 00:04:39,319 --> 00:04:43,120 just constantly stuff coming out, constant, it's just this barrage, 67 00:04:44,959 --> 00:04:46,759 and so it's hard to keep up. It's hard to 68 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,560 keep pace and things that would otherwise generate, you know, 69 00:04:50,639 --> 00:04:54,879 a lot of attention and focus for a week or two, 70 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,959 maybe months, there's not enough time. There's not enough you know, 71 00:05:00,079 --> 00:05:04,560 there's enough broadcast time. And that's not just me, it's everybody. 72 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:10,360 And for me, like I made this pledge or commitment 73 00:05:10,519 --> 00:05:14,680 or like I said back in so this was after 74 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,680 Trump won, So this would have been like twenty seventeen, 75 00:05:17,519 --> 00:05:20,360 and I said, I'm not going to make every show 76 00:05:20,759 --> 00:05:24,720 about Donald Trump and about what he said or what 77 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,920 he tweeted. You remember those days where he would, you know, 78 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,079 he'd fire off a bunch of tweets and everybody'd be like, 79 00:05:29,079 --> 00:05:30,240 oh my god, I give believe he said that. And 80 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:31,639 then we would spend like a day or two and 81 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,240 everybody would be parsing his tweet and all of this, 82 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,240 and I said, I'm not going. I'm not going to 83 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,720 do that. There are other things that require attention. So like, 84 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,319 I'm not that, I'm not going not that I'm going 85 00:05:44,319 --> 00:05:47,879 to ignore, you know, anything that has to do with 86 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,480 Donald Trump, but I'm not going to let him set 87 00:05:50,519 --> 00:05:53,920 my agenda for my show every day. I have found 88 00:05:53,959 --> 00:05:57,560 that to be almost impossible to do now because there's 89 00:05:57,639 --> 00:06:00,920 just so much stuff going on. And I'm not saying 90 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,560 that's as a bad thing. I'm just pointing it out 91 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,879 that this is a very different thing. And I and 92 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,199 the irony of ironies here is that I don't think 93 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,560 that we would be witnessing this had we not gone 94 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,959 through the last four years, actually the last eight, had Trump, 95 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,480 had Trump served back to back terms. I don't think 96 00:06:24,519 --> 00:06:29,079 we see this, I really don't. I think this is 97 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:36,720 only because of his you know, time in exile on Elba. 98 00:06:37,879 --> 00:06:42,759 That's a Napoleon reference, not dynamite, but the like he 99 00:06:42,759 --> 00:06:44,720 he was out and it gave him and all of 100 00:06:44,759 --> 00:06:47,920 his people plenty of time to go through and say 101 00:06:47,959 --> 00:06:50,040 this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna this is 102 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,360 how we're gonna stack it. Here's our plan of attack 103 00:06:52,399 --> 00:06:54,879 and all of that. Here are the legal arguments, get 104 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,319 the people involved in all that. But also they were 105 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:03,839 aided obviously by the uh overreaches of the Democrats and 106 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,399 the policies they enacted in the way they protected Joe 107 00:07:06,439 --> 00:07:11,000 Biden and his failing cognitive abilities. And so it all 108 00:07:11,079 --> 00:07:14,319 came to pass this way because of what happened. And 109 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,519 I don't know if we would be seeing the same 110 00:07:17,399 --> 00:07:19,519 kind of activity right now if we had not gone 111 00:07:19,519 --> 00:07:20,600 through the last four years. 112 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:20,839 Speaker 1: Right. 113 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: So this brings us to USAID. Do you think Donald 114 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,279 Trump would have been looking to completely obliterate USAID had 115 00:07:29,319 --> 00:07:34,639 it not been weaponized against him over the last eight years. 116 00:07:34,639 --> 00:07:41,120 Probably not right. Staffers of the US Agency for International Development, 117 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,480 or USAID, were instructed to stay out of the agency's 118 00:07:45,639 --> 00:07:50,519 Washington headquarters today, according to a notice distributed to them, 119 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,519 after billionaire Elon Musk announced President Donald Trump had agreed 120 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:59,920 with him to shut the agency down. And again I 121 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,920 point out, for people who are claiming that Trump doesn't 122 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,680 have the authority to do it, I would submit he 123 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:10,000 does because it was created by an executive order by 124 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:10,480 John F. 125 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: Kennedy. 126 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,399 Speaker 2: And so I would think, now, unless there's some brand 127 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,399 new interpretation here where it's like a president can And 128 00:08:18,439 --> 00:08:20,639 we saw this with Obama, by the way, and a 129 00:08:20,759 --> 00:08:23,720 ruling against I think it was an immigration related case 130 00:08:23,759 --> 00:08:26,920 where I remember Obama did something and then Trump tried 131 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,199 to undo it and they were like, no, you can't 132 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,879 do that, Like, well, wait a minute, if Obama did 133 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:33,759 it with an executive order, it can be undone with 134 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:37,279 an executive order. And then there's like no, not really 135 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:40,639 because reasons. So unless we end up with some kind 136 00:08:40,639 --> 00:08:45,320 of you know, Kakamami judicial ruling like that, I don't 137 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,759 see how. I don't see how Trump is, you know, 138 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,960 outside the bounds of his authority here. Us AID staffer 139 00:08:52,039 --> 00:08:54,960 said they also tracked more than six hundred employees who 140 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,240 reported being locked out of the agency's computer systems overnight. 141 00:08:58,799 --> 00:09:02,240 Those still in the system received emails saying that quote 142 00:09:02,279 --> 00:09:05,320 at the direction of agency leadership, the headquarters building will 143 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,200 be closed to agency personnel today, Monday, the third. The 144 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,159 developments came after Musk, who's leading an extraordinary civilian review 145 00:09:13,159 --> 00:09:16,440 of the federal government with the Republican President's agreement, said 146 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,879 early in the morning today that he had spoken with 147 00:09:19,919 --> 00:09:23,639 Trump about the six decade us AID and Development agency 148 00:09:24,039 --> 00:09:27,919 end quote. He agreed we should shut it down, and 149 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,080 so shut it down. 150 00:09:29,759 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: They are. 151 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,039 Speaker 2: Over the weekend, the Trump administration put two top security 152 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,919 chiefs at USAID on leave after they refused to turn 153 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:45,440 over classified material in restricted areas to Musk's government inspection teams. 154 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,039 A current and former US official told the Associated Press 155 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:55,080 on Sunday, this is an article at the AP. I 156 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,240 suspect Trump is doing or he's allowing Musk to do 157 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,960 what Musk did at Twitter, which is when Muscot in there, 158 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,759 he basically fired eighty percent of the workforce. And everybody said, 159 00:10:05,799 --> 00:10:08,120 this is not going to work. Oh my gosh, you're 160 00:10:08,159 --> 00:10:11,440 going to ruin Twitter. Everything's going to crumble. We need 161 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,840 all these people. And then it turned out they didn't. 162 00:10:15,039 --> 00:10:19,799 They didn't. They had just way too many people on 163 00:10:19,919 --> 00:10:22,840 staff and they didn't need all of the people, and 164 00:10:23,399 --> 00:10:28,840 they were creating inferior products. And so that seems to 165 00:10:28,879 --> 00:10:32,080 me what they are doing at USAID. But what do 166 00:10:32,159 --> 00:10:34,279 I know. I'm just a little old radio host. Here's 167 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,879 a great idea. How about making an escape to a 168 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,440 really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina. Just 169 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,080 a quick drive up the mountain and cabins of Ashville 170 00:10:43,159 --> 00:10:46,960 is your connection. 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So this 189 00:11:48,919 --> 00:11:52,840 is an article out of the Associated Press about USAID 190 00:11:53,399 --> 00:11:57,720 US What is it saying for the Agency for International Development? 191 00:11:58,039 --> 00:12:02,519 Created by John F. Kennedy in order to, you know, 192 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,360 send a bunch of food and aid to countries that 193 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,879 were struggling, that were in need. And the idea was, 194 00:12:10,519 --> 00:12:13,080 you know, this would help with sort of soft diplomacy. 195 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: Right. 196 00:12:14,159 --> 00:12:16,639 Speaker 2: People would see all the bags of food piled up 197 00:12:16,639 --> 00:12:19,480 at the docks and see USAID all over it, and 198 00:12:19,519 --> 00:12:22,440 they would be like, hey, those Americans they're all right, 199 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,960 you know. They they kept me from starving. And in principle, 200 00:12:27,039 --> 00:12:29,960 I kind of like that idea makes sense. I think 201 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,559 for you know, bang for the buck, it's pretty cheap. 202 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,720 Like if you can make people friendly towards you, or 203 00:12:34,759 --> 00:12:40,200 at least not hostile, right, then you know, you send 204 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,279 this message that we are helpers, we want to help people, 205 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,200 we are trying to do good and you need some 206 00:12:45,279 --> 00:12:47,360 food and we can give you some food. Here's some food, 207 00:12:47,799 --> 00:12:51,080 right charity. I'm okay with that. The problem is when 208 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,679 you set the agency up to give out food and 209 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,639 the next thing, I know, you're using the money as 210 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:02,000 a pass through for NGOs to organize migrant caravans. Like, 211 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:08,679 that's a problem. That's a problem, right. You're using USAID 212 00:13:09,159 --> 00:13:14,039 funding to send money to Bill Crystal, you know, like hmm, 213 00:13:14,279 --> 00:13:19,320 never Trump or guy like ah, or you're sending money 214 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,799 to fund drag queens story hours in Sudan. I'm not 215 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,639 sure we have kept our eye on the goal here people. 216 00:13:27,799 --> 00:13:32,399 You know, so Democratic lawmakers are protesting the moves to 217 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:37,039 shut down USAID, saying Trump lacks the constitutional authority to 218 00:13:37,159 --> 00:13:41,480 shut it down without congressional approval, which again I'm not 219 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:43,600 so sure that's the case. Why would that be the case. 220 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,200 If it was created by a stroke of the pen 221 00:13:47,519 --> 00:13:52,200 by JFK, then why can't it be uncreated in the 222 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,480 exact same manner. Well, pee, once Congress puts money towards it, 223 00:13:56,519 --> 00:14:02,639 then it just lives forever. Really, I see, this is 224 00:14:02,639 --> 00:14:05,039 the problem when you have rules and then you break 225 00:14:05,039 --> 00:14:09,639 the rules to do things like this, not what Trump did, 226 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,360 but what Kennedy did. Right, When you break rules to 227 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,080 create these government programs and services and you don't run 228 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,879 it through legislation, it creates a lot of ambiguity. Now 229 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,360 about who's in control of it, like because I saw 230 00:14:25,399 --> 00:14:26,919 some reports like we're going to try to move this 231 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:31,039 thing under the US State Department. Like no, no, no, stop, 232 00:14:31,919 --> 00:14:34,679 don't put it under. Just get rid of it. Just 233 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,879 get rid of it. If Congress wants to do some 234 00:14:38,919 --> 00:14:43,080 sort of an aid program, then let them do a grant, 235 00:14:43,279 --> 00:14:45,320 let them send the money, let them vote on it, 236 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,480 and appropriate the money. That way, we don't need to 237 00:14:47,519 --> 00:14:51,279 be doing this for USAID again like this, it is 238 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:56,519 a classic example of of what happens with government programs 239 00:14:56,559 --> 00:15:02,080 and services all the time. They expand, they expand, right, 240 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,519 and they break the boundaries of the thing, of the 241 00:15:05,559 --> 00:15:08,639 original guardrails that they were initially set up to focus 242 00:15:08,679 --> 00:15:12,200 their attention on certain issues. And then they get bigger 243 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:13,600 and bigger, and they get more and more money, and 244 00:15:13,639 --> 00:15:17,679 then they just start expanding beyond what the initial parameters were. 245 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,679 And so it's like a controlled burn. And I know 246 00:15:21,799 --> 00:15:24,720 Democrats don't like doing those, but that's what it's like. 247 00:15:25,879 --> 00:15:26,279 Speaker 3: All right. 248 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,039 Speaker 2: I hope you had a happy holiday season, But tell 249 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,639 me if something like this happened at your house, your 250 00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:34,120 family and friends are gathered around, maybe y'all are in 251 00:15:34,159 --> 00:15:37,799 the living room, you're laughing swapping stories, reminiscing, and then 252 00:15:37,799 --> 00:15:41,759 somebody says, hey, Dad, remember those old VHS tapes? Did 253 00:15:41,799 --> 00:15:44,399 you ever get them transferred? And then the room gets 254 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,000 all quiet. All eyes are on Dad, who says, oh, 255 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,039 you know, well, I've been meaning to but I just 256 00:15:50,159 --> 00:15:53,120 having gotten around to it. 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So do what I did. 266 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,679 Trust the experts at Creative Video, conveniently located in mint 267 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,559 Hill right off I four eighty five and online at 268 00:16:29,639 --> 00:16:33,000 create avideo dot com. So the AP when they did 269 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,200 this story on the USAID cuts and the locking out 270 00:16:36,279 --> 00:16:40,720 of the employees, they reported that Elon Musk's and Trump's 271 00:16:40,799 --> 00:16:44,279 comments came with Secretary of State Marco Rubio out of 272 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,759 the country in Central America on his first trip abroad 273 00:16:47,759 --> 00:16:50,639 in office. Rubio has not spoken publicly about any plans 274 00:16:50,679 --> 00:16:56,600 to shut down USAID. Now he has because apparently Marco 275 00:16:56,679 --> 00:17:00,559 Rubio is now the new acting director of us AID, 276 00:17:01,039 --> 00:17:06,119 and here's what he just said to the press. 277 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: What's going to be as other questions or three. 278 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 3: Well, look, I mean, my frustration with USA goes back 279 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:12,519 to my time in Congress. 280 00:17:12,559 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: It's a completely unresponsive agency. 281 00:17:14,799 --> 00:17:19,519 Speaker 3: It's supposed to respond to policy directives of the State Department, 282 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,359 and it refuses to do so. So the functions of 283 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,440 the USAID, there are a lot of functions of USAID 284 00:17:25,519 --> 00:17:26,799 that are going to continue, that are going to be 285 00:17:26,839 --> 00:17:29,039 part of American foreign policy. But it has to be 286 00:17:29,079 --> 00:17:32,519 aligned with American foreign policy. I said very clearly when 287 00:17:32,559 --> 00:17:35,720 we were during my confirmation hearing that every dollar we 288 00:17:35,759 --> 00:17:39,200 spend in every program we fund that will be aligned 289 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,279 with the national interest of the United States, and USAID 290 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,559 has a history of sort of ignoring that and deciding 291 00:17:45,559 --> 00:17:48,400 that there's somehow a global charity separate from the national interest. 292 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: These are taxpayer. 293 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 3: Dollars, and so I'm very troubled by these reports that 294 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,720 they've been unwilling to cooperate with people who are asking 295 00:17:55,759 --> 00:17:58,119 simple questions about what does this program do, who gets 296 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,960 the money, who are our contractors, who's fun funded? And 297 00:18:01,319 --> 00:18:04,599 that sort of level of insubordination makes it impossible to 298 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,119 conduct a sort of mature and serious review that I 299 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,960 think foreign at large should have. We're spending taxpayer money here. 300 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,599 These are not donor dollars. These are taxpayer dollars, and 301 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:19,200 we owe the American people sure the assurances that every 302 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,599 dollar we are spending abroad is being spent on something 303 00:18:22,599 --> 00:18:25,559 that furthers our national interests, and so far a lot 304 00:18:25,599 --> 00:18:27,839 of the people that work at USAID have just simply 305 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:28,640 refused to cooperate. 306 00:18:28,759 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: Are you currently in charge of USAIDA. 307 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,039 Speaker 3: I'm the acting director of USAID. I've delegated that authority 308 00:18:34,079 --> 00:18:35,960 to someone, but I stay in touch with him. And again, 309 00:18:36,279 --> 00:18:39,480 our goal was to go in and align our foreign 310 00:18:40,559 --> 00:18:43,240 aid to the national interest. But if you go to 311 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,839 mission after mission and embassy after embassy around the world, 312 00:18:45,839 --> 00:18:49,200 you will often find that in many cases USADID is 313 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,839 involved in programs that run counter to what we're trying 314 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,039 to do in our national strategy with that country or 315 00:18:55,079 --> 00:18:56,839 with that region that cannot continue. 316 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: USAID is not. 317 00:18:58,079 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 3: An independent, non governmental ent. It is an entity that 318 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,400 spends taxpayer dollars and it needs to spend it, as 319 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,480 the statute says, in alignment with the policy directives that 320 00:19:07,519 --> 00:19:10,720 they get from the Secretary of State, the National Security Council, 321 00:19:10,799 --> 00:19:11,440 and the President. 322 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: And it's been twenty or thirty years where. 323 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,079 Speaker 3: People have tried to reform it and it refuses to reform, 324 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,200 it refuses to cooperate. When we were in Congress, we 325 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,000 couldn't even get answers to basic questions about programs that 326 00:19:21,079 --> 00:19:21,880 will not continue. 327 00:19:22,079 --> 00:19:25,079 Speaker 1: That's not going to continue, you know, an public career. 328 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,799 Speaker 3: That I've articulated to you my challenges with it, and 329 00:19:29,839 --> 00:19:31,759 they go back to my time in Congress. Okay, we 330 00:19:31,759 --> 00:19:33,799 would ask them questions, what is this program fund? Who 331 00:19:33,799 --> 00:19:35,880 gets the money? We won't tell you. We don't need 332 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,839 to tell you. We're a political. Well, American foreign policy 333 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,000 isn't a political. American foreign policy is to further the 334 00:19:43,039 --> 00:19:44,279 interest of the United States. 335 00:19:44,559 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: If someone wants. 336 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,319 Speaker 3: To spend eight political dollars, they should spend private dollars. 337 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,359 Go start a charity, and you can fund anyone you want. 338 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,559 But if you're going to spend taxpayer money, then you 339 00:19:53,599 --> 00:19:55,680 need to spend it in further and further into the 340 00:19:55,759 --> 00:19:58,279 national interests of the United States. That's exactly what I 341 00:19:58,279 --> 00:20:00,920 said in my confirmation hearing. This is not my frustration. 342 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,960 This frustration has existed now for almost a quarter century, 343 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,160 and to administer multiple administrations that have gone through this challenge. 344 00:20:07,319 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: It's going to stop, and it's gonna hand. Can you 345 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:09,519 tell us a little bit? 346 00:20:09,559 --> 00:20:09,799 Speaker 3: All right? 347 00:20:09,839 --> 00:20:10,279 Speaker 1: So there you go. 348 00:20:10,319 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: That was Rubio just arrived back from Panama, and he's 349 00:20:15,799 --> 00:20:19,279 exactly right. He is exactly right. You don't get to 350 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:24,240 take taxpayer funds like that and then not tell us 351 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,559 what it's being used for. Okay, yes, yes, unless you're 352 00:20:28,559 --> 00:20:33,440 the military, that's right. But like if you get an 353 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,400 administration in there and like, okay, this is going to 354 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,880 be our posture now towards you know, country A and 355 00:20:40,799 --> 00:20:45,599 US AID personnel are like, no, we don't think that's 356 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,960 the best policy, So we're just going to keep funding 357 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,640 these other entities that the CIA is to I'm just kidding. 358 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,319 I'm just kidding. The CIA would never use us AID 359 00:20:58,559 --> 00:21:02,240 to foment any kind of disc in another country. So anyway, 360 00:21:02,039 --> 00:21:04,599 the USAID person I was like, we don't want to 361 00:21:04,599 --> 00:21:06,839 do that, we don't think that's the right thing. You'll 362 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,880 be gone in four years whatever whatever. And he like, 363 00:21:10,079 --> 00:21:13,319 if Rubio, if what he's saying is true that as 364 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,119 members of Congress, like they've asked for what are you 365 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,480 funding on, like what is this money for? And they refuse, 366 00:21:18,559 --> 00:21:24,400 They've just they're that is in subordination, right, and like 367 00:21:24,519 --> 00:21:29,000 depending on what you're funding, like you're working at counter 368 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:37,359 purpose to the stated administration's goals. So you're in the 369 00:21:37,519 --> 00:21:42,720 fo part of the FAFO dynamic there USAID, they thought. 370 00:21:42,759 --> 00:21:46,000 And by the way, Democrats are now outside the headquarters 371 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,319 of USAID and they're out there doing a press conference. 372 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,440 All the people are going to die, you know. The 373 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,599 Trump administration and Rubio have imposed an unprecedented freeze on 374 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,680 foreign assistants that has shut down much of USAID's aid 375 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:04,920 programs worldwide, compelling thousands of layoffs by aid organizations and 376 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,519 ordered furloughs and leaves that have gutted the agency's leadership 377 00:22:09,599 --> 00:22:14,160 and staff in Washington. See, this is the thing. They 378 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,920 act like they are a standalone unit of government and 379 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,359 they're not, or as he said, they're acting like they're 380 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:27,759 the world's charity, like they're a global charity, but they're not. Oh, 381 00:22:27,839 --> 00:22:31,599 have you heard about the Census director? He quit, just 382 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,519 up and quit. Robert Santos resigned as the director of 383 00:22:34,519 --> 00:22:37,119 the US Census Bureau. I wonder why you did that. 384 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,240 I think I might know. All right, if you're listening 385 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,799 to this show, you know I try to keep up 386 00:22:41,839 --> 00:22:43,599 with all sorts of current events, and I know you 387 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,119 do too. And you've probably heard me say get your 388 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,039 news from multiple sources. Why well, because it's how you 389 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,000 detect media bias, which is why I've been so impressed 390 00:22:53,079 --> 00:22:56,839 with ground News. It's an app and it's a website 391 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,599 and it combines news from around the world in one place, 392 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,960 so you can compare coverage and verify information. 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Then not only helps my podcast, but 404 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,960 it also supports ground news as they make the media 405 00:23:42,079 --> 00:23:47,240 landscape more transparent. Got an email from Bob. It's a 406 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,640 peat mail. He says, correct, shut it all down very carefully, 407 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:57,400 bring back essential functions with sunset provisions for a usaid 408 00:23:57,519 --> 00:24:03,119 for the shuttering of various government funded programs and such. Yeah, 409 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,240 that that is. That's one way to go about this. 410 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,839 I mentioned before the break the US census. And for 411 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,279 people who have been following this story for a while, 412 00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:17,160 this will not come as any kind of a surprise 413 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,240 to you because it has been it has been known. 414 00:24:21,319 --> 00:24:25,079 It has been reported on in conservative media, not in 415 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,880 sort of mainstream media, not that I have seen as well. 416 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,559 But there was a good breakdown by a guy named 417 00:24:31,559 --> 00:24:35,440 Seth Keshell or Keshel. He is an MBA is a 418 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,920 former Army captain of military intelligence. He's a veteran and 419 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:47,440 from the Afghanistan War, and he does analytics and forecasting 420 00:24:49,839 --> 00:24:54,680 on elections and such, and so he writes a sub stack. 421 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,880 I thought I had the thought I had the name 422 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,119 of it here, but I guess it's s Keshell, k 423 00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:05,319 E s H E L. S Keshel or Keishell. And 424 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:10,480 his name is Captain Seth Keshel. And he reported how 425 00:25:10,599 --> 00:25:16,920 the director of the US Census Bureau, Robert Santos, abruptly resigned. 426 00:25:19,079 --> 00:25:25,240 And if you know the problems that the census had 427 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:30,680 in twenty twenty oh because of covid P, yeah, then 428 00:25:32,519 --> 00:25:34,880 this might if you know about that what happened then 429 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,799 in twenty twenty, this might actually not come as such 430 00:25:38,839 --> 00:25:44,039 a huge surprise. He says, yours truly meaning him. Captain 431 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:50,119 Keshel briefed the staff of Congressman Comber Matt Comer, the 432 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,759 head of was a House government oversight committee. He briefed 433 00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:59,960 Comer in December during a hearing on the twenty twenty 434 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:08,119 US Census. And it's considerable corruption. Using research compiled by 435 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,519 some of the best in the business, I pegged Santos 436 00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:14,480 as one of the key lynchpins in concealing the census 437 00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:19,240 rigging scam from the public. Right, so what is the right? 438 00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:22,039 First off, why is the Sensus so important? Right, it's 439 00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:23,960 not just to get account of people and ask them 440 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,920 invasive questions and stuff like that. The purpose of the 441 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,519 counting of the people, it's in the Constitution. The purpose 442 00:26:31,839 --> 00:26:36,880 is to apportion our members of Congress the House seats, right, 443 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,880 and yes, like, once you do that, there's all you know, 444 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,640 there's there's a per capita population funding formulas and stuff 445 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,759 at the federal level and all of that. But you 446 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,880 need the count of how many people are in America 447 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:53,240 in order to then essentially distribute, to allocate all of 448 00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:56,920 the House seats. Because that is a formula where you 449 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,880 take the total population of the country and you divide 450 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,359 by the four hundred and thirty five members of the House, 451 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,079 and you get a number. And that number is somewhere 452 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,519 in the eight hundred thousand range. It's somewhere around eight 453 00:27:07,559 --> 00:27:10,720 hundred thousand. So that is the number, or that's the 454 00:27:10,759 --> 00:27:15,880 population I should say, of every house district. Now, if 455 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,400 you're in a state and you don't even have eight 456 00:27:17,519 --> 00:27:21,920 hundred thousand people, then you get one House seat. Okay, 457 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,839 you're guaranteed a minimum of one House seat even if 458 00:27:24,839 --> 00:27:28,720 you don't have eight hundred thousand people. But a state 459 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,720 that's got you know, one point six million people, they 460 00:27:32,759 --> 00:27:35,119 would get two House seats, right, because each one is 461 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:40,559 eight hundred thousand people. So if you are counting population, 462 00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:47,640 and that number is then used to essentially kind of 463 00:27:47,799 --> 00:27:52,240 sort of determine who controls the House of Representatives, if 464 00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:56,680 you're in control of the counting, you can juice the 465 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:02,400 stats there depending on who you count, and areas where 466 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,799 you may have overcounted justice smidge and areas that you 467 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:12,519 may undercount in just a smidge. And the effect there 468 00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:16,759 is when you do it across the whole country, you 469 00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:21,519 can have a differential of fifteen or sixteen House seats. 470 00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:25,480 And that's precisely what happened in twenty twenty, where the 471 00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:30,640 mistakes all tended in one direction, which was to help 472 00:28:31,079 --> 00:28:35,680 blue states keep their seats rather than lose because they 473 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,119 were losing population. So they helped to keep blue states 474 00:28:40,279 --> 00:28:43,039 with an extra congressional seat that they otherwise would have lost. 475 00:28:43,319 --> 00:28:46,599 And red states are prevented from gaming a House seat, 476 00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:50,839 and those also by the way that the number of 477 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:57,240 seats right those determine the electoral College votes. And so 478 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,759 a state that has like North Carolina, has been growing, 479 00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:03,519 keep adding an additional congressional seat. We're now up to fourteen. 480 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,359 I think when I first moved here. We were at 481 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,400 ten I think, so we've picked up like four seats 482 00:29:09,839 --> 00:29:12,160 over the course of like thirty years or so, and 483 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,000 so we keep adding more and more seats, and so 484 00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:17,720 when we vote for a Republican president, they get more 485 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,880 and more Electoral College votes. So more people moving to 486 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,640 red states means an easier path for a Republican presidential candidate. 487 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,839 And then there is another aspect to this, which is 488 00:29:32,039 --> 00:29:39,240 the counting of illegal immigrants. Right when you have people 489 00:29:39,839 --> 00:29:42,799 that are in a state that are getting counted but 490 00:29:42,839 --> 00:29:47,599 they cannot vote. The Democrat position on this is that, well, 491 00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:49,920 we need to know what the vote or what the 492 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,119 population count is even if they can't vote, because there 493 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,200 are services that are funded at the federal level based 494 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:02,559 on population. And so you'll recall try to stop the 495 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,440 counting of illegal aliens from being included in the census, 496 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,119 which to me makes sense. You take the population of 497 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,960 the people that are citizens in the state and the 498 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,640 people who are not citizens. They should be counted in 499 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:23,440 a census from the country from which they came because 500 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,960 they are citizens of that country. Right, That's where you 501 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,240 would and that's how you would know what the number 502 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,400 of illegal aliens in America would be like, okay, here's 503 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,000 the difference. But they don't get counted back home, they 504 00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:38,440 get counted here. And so if you have a whole 505 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,920 bunch of people that are getting counted but don't get 506 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:47,880 to vote, and their head count, their presence simply aids 507 00:30:49,359 --> 00:30:54,680 the majority party, in this case, the Democrats, then you're 508 00:30:54,720 --> 00:31:00,000 creating essentially a permanent ruling class in that state because 509 00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:02,119 you just have people that are there. They can never 510 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,759 vote and they can't vote out the Democrats, but they 511 00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:08,119 get counted, so the Democrats keep more seats and they 512 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,400 keep a hammer lock on the state. So this is 513 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:17,480 the corruption of the census. And in the House, had 514 00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:23,279 these states gotten their proper counts, according to the analysis 515 00:31:23,319 --> 00:31:28,240 here in the House, it would have delivered Trump a 516 00:31:28,279 --> 00:31:32,200 two thirty six to one ninety nine majority. Just based 517 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:37,240 on the apportionment adjustments. He says, Trump would have won 518 00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:40,000 three hundred and twenty electoral votes, Harris would have picked 519 00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:43,880 up two hundred and eighteen, a swing of sixteen electoral 520 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,839 votes towards Trump. And that was in line with the 521 00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:49,839 with the predictive model that this guy ran before the 522 00:31:49,839 --> 00:31:53,640 election even occurred. And the Carolinas are by the way, 523 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,319 they are in the mix on this The Carolinas are 524 00:31:56,319 --> 00:31:58,720 in the mix. We'll probably get another seat in twenty thirty, 525 00:31:58,839 --> 00:32:01,000 but we probably should have gotten one this time around. 526 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,200 All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you 527 00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:06,240 so much for listening. I could not do the show 528 00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:08,799 without your support and the support of the businesses that 529 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,960 advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support 530 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,680 them too and tell them you heard it here. You 531 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,319 can also become a patron at my Patreon page or 532 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,039 go to dpetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much 533 00:32:20,039 --> 00:32:26,519 for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.