Speaker 1: It's nice time with Dan Ray. I'm telling you easy
Speaker 1: Boston Radio.
Speaker 2: Just looking at pictures of Los Angeles, pictures of people
Speaker 2: standing by what was their homes. Again, anyone who loses
Speaker 2: a home to a fire is tragic, but we're talking
Speaker 2: about thousands of people who have nowhere to go and
Speaker 2: have nothing left except for the clothes on their back.
Speaker 2: It's an incredible story. We'll keep rolling here six one
Speaker 2: seven two six seven. I was gonna change at ten
Speaker 2: o'clock and talk about Donald Trump's day in Zoom Court.
Speaker 2: We can say that till next week, but let's let's
Speaker 2: continue along. We're gonna go next. Steve is in Bridgewater. Steve,
Speaker 2: You're next one night side. Appreciate you holding through the news.
Speaker 2: Go right ahead.
Speaker 3: How you doing again, Nice to talk to you again.
Speaker 3: I talk with you, sir, you know, to take a
Speaker 3: few things. It was just it's funny they just talked
Speaker 3: about it on the news just now about a reservoir
Speaker 3: that was taken off line. Was close to two million
Speaker 3: gallons of water. Yeah, and I think that had a
Speaker 3: lot to do with why some of the hydrants ran
Speaker 3: dried then and they didn't have enough water to fight
Speaker 3: the fires.
Speaker 2: Why did they take it? Why did they take that
Speaker 2: reservoir offline? Did they explain that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I heard of it even on Fox News.
Speaker 3: They were for repair is it something for some reason
Speaker 3: like that, for repairs or they were repairing something.
Speaker 2: But well, they must have let me just add this,
Speaker 2: they must have known that the Santa Anti winds. I
Speaker 2: mean that that is what they get this time of
Speaker 2: year out there. It's like we get cold weather in January,
Speaker 2: they get the Santa Ana winds. Why would they take
Speaker 2: it right line at this time?
Speaker 3: I know? No, mean that you're talking about hundred hurricane
Speaker 3: force winds in one hundred miles an hour. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: stayed pictures of hillsides and that were glowing in Orange.
Speaker 3: They were so much on fire. I couldn't even believe
Speaker 3: what I was watching. They were glowing at Orange, the
Speaker 3: hillsides right.
Speaker 2: And all of the contributing factors. I know that people
Speaker 2: are going to say, well, it's the lack of rain, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's fair, gonna say climate change, that's fair. But in winds,
Speaker 2: that's fair. But how can you allow your city to
Speaker 2: be exposed? You take a reservoir with two million or
Speaker 2: whatever the number of gallons of water.
Speaker 3: You take one one point seven million gallons.
Speaker 2: Take it offline. Was that whoever made that decision? I mean,
Speaker 2: that's just Look, I'm sure that it wasn't uh, you know,
Speaker 2: something that was done intentionally and saying, oh, yeah, we're
Speaker 2: gonna have a fire next week. No, it was just
Speaker 2: abject stupidity. Competence.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a lot of incompetence. I understand. The fire
Speaker 3: chief cut so many, so many, so much money from
Speaker 3: the fire budget, a lot of a lot of bats.
Speaker 2: Who whoa, whoa, whoa waste that? Hold on, let me
Speaker 2: defend the fire chief. It wasn't the fire chief. It
Speaker 2: was the mayor of Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: The man, the mayor, I'm sorry, yeah, the man, the.
Speaker 2: Mayor who used to be a member of Congress, and
Speaker 2: and she was away. They knew that they had some problems,
Speaker 2: some weather problems, and she went off to some sort
Speaker 2: of celebration in Ghana.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, what a ship of fools.
Speaker 2: That city is. And that's the city that had had
Speaker 2: the prosecutor, George Gasbag gascon who who was defeated, thank god.
Speaker 2: And there's a new prosecutor out there who tonight, believe
Speaker 2: it or not, Thank God is threatening looters and and scammers.
Speaker 2: Listen to this sound by that I got. I played
Speaker 2: this last hour, but I think it's worth a second play.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be great to get a prosecuted like this
Speaker 2: a message in Boston? This has cut thirty seven. Play
Speaker 2: that one again, please Rob.
Speaker 4: This is the La County Colisades at the sight of
Speaker 4: what used to be my sister's home.
Speaker 5: She's lived here for a while, a long time with
Speaker 5: her family, and are now this this home, along with
Speaker 5: the homes in the street, in this neighborhood, are just gone.
Speaker 2: I've been here for over sixty years.
Speaker 5: I've not seen devastation like this in my lifetime. I mean,
Speaker 5: you have to harken back to the nineteen nineties when
Speaker 5: we're hit with the floods and the fires and the
Speaker 5: earthquakes and the riots to even get.
Speaker 6: Close to this.
Speaker 5: Now, I'm absolutely convinced that La is incredibly resilient and
Speaker 5: like it's done many many times before, Angelino's will come
Speaker 5: back and build this back better than ever. But for
Speaker 5: the people who are thinking, the criminals who are out
Speaker 5: there thinking about taking advantage of this situation through looting
Speaker 5: or through scams or over.
Speaker 4: The Internet and praying on vulnerable victims. Let me make
Speaker 4: it quite clear what's going to happen. The DA's office
Speaker 4: working for with law enforcement is going to arrest you.
Speaker 4: They're going to prosecute you, and you will be punished
Speaker 4: to the full extent of the law.
Speaker 1: That's a promise.
Speaker 2: Now, that's a prosecutor. And hopefully if there's anybody out
Speaker 2: there who's scamming people, twenty years should would would be
Speaker 2: about right, I think for people who are scamming. I
Speaker 2: hope so, I hope so and I and I hope
Speaker 2: that we can we can find some prosecutors here in
Speaker 2: Massachusetts as well. We got a couple, you know, John
Speaker 2: Blodge it up in Essex County retired unfortunately, Uh, and
Speaker 2: we do have we do have a couple of prosecutors,
Speaker 2: but we need more. I mean, Gascon was the guy
Speaker 2: who wouldn't prosecute anybody. No wonder people are out there
Speaker 2: figuring that they can loot and they can scam.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jan can I just sad one more thing about
Speaker 3: let you go Nextcarlo. Sure, you know they're talking about rebuilding.
Speaker 3: I know it looks you see all this devastation, but
Speaker 3: you know what I think it's going to be rebuilt
Speaker 3: faster than you think. The bulldozers will come through there,
Speaker 3: will clear out the debris, and people are going to
Speaker 3: come in. New people with money are going to come
Speaker 3: in and buy the land and rebuild on there.
Speaker 2: You must waste. You got people out there who are
Speaker 2: pretty wealthy to live in palace in the Pacific Palace,
Speaker 2: right they own the property. I mean, you know they're
Speaker 2: not gonna I don't know. Maybe some will sell, maybe
Speaker 2: some won't. How long do you think before it will
Speaker 2: take you're optimistic, how many years do you think before
Speaker 2: that that those fire ravaged communities will come back to
Speaker 2: where they were two weeks ago? How many years.
Speaker 3: They said five to ten? I say five. Maybe it
Speaker 3: might even be within five. Because it happened, it can
Speaker 3: happen faster than you think.
Speaker 2: Well, I hope, so, I hope, so, I hope the people.
Speaker 3: Would have money. Then the people that have money will rebuild.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the ones that are kind of financially
Speaker 3: in the middle and didn't have it and don't have insurance.
Speaker 3: In that case, somebody else will replace will coming by
Speaker 3: the land because they will go to rebuild all Steve.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you call. Got to keep rolling, thank you
Speaker 2: very much.
Speaker 3: All right, by bye bye, let me keep rolling here.
Speaker 2: I got to get Ruth at Uxbridge. Ruth, I don't
Speaker 2: want you to have to wait any longer. I'll take
Speaker 2: you before. Go ahead, Ruth.
Speaker 7: Thank you, thanks doing good to talk to you. And
Speaker 7: oh my heartaches for those people. Because I lived out
Speaker 7: there for a few years. I was born and raised
Speaker 7: here in Massachusetts. And the thing is is that when
Speaker 7: people look at the city of Los Angeles, you see
Speaker 7: something on television and you see all the lights of
Speaker 7: the city and everything you know, and what you basically
Speaker 7: see is like a flat city from a tall high
Speaker 7: mountain's side there and so, but the thing is all
Speaker 7: the land that's around the city, outside the city, it's
Speaker 7: all hilly. It's not flat. It's surrounded by hills and
Speaker 7: canyons and stuff like that. And I know that when
Speaker 7: we were out there for a couple of years, most
Speaker 7: of the moisture that they get it was really weird.
Speaker 7: They'd get it in March, in April and May, and
Speaker 7: it would be damp. It would be like demp moisture.
Speaker 7: At nighttime, you'd wake up and you'd walk out in
Speaker 7: the morning and the ground and your roof and everything
Speaker 7: would be wet. But it wasn't really like rainfall. But
Speaker 7: yet I know they have a rainy time. But I
Speaker 7: think the other, the other part of it is the foliage.
Speaker 7: The foliage is so very different than what we have
Speaker 7: around here. And this is what people don't understand. Why
Speaker 7: can these fires go so fast. It's because a lot
Speaker 7: of it's time and it's scrubby brushed, okay, and it
Speaker 7: is it's comprised a lot of it's the oils that
Speaker 7: are in the brush and it's bordering the sides of
Speaker 7: the roads and stuff like that, and they just go.
Speaker 7: And so their big thing was, like you mentioned, they
Speaker 7: did not clean out the brush, and that was that
Speaker 7: was to me, one of the biggest things right there.
Speaker 7: And the other thing you mentioned was and my son
Speaker 7: just mentioned this to me just recently. He lives in
Speaker 7: South Dakota, but he mentioned those big planes that are
Speaker 7: based in Colorado.
Speaker 8: Yep.
Speaker 7: I've never seen one, but and I don't know how
Speaker 7: they fill them, you know what I mean. But yeah,
Speaker 7: it's it's so different. It's almost like you've got to
Speaker 7: be out there to really understand and see what the
Speaker 7: terrain is like, and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: And did you live in the city or did you
Speaker 2: live outside of the city.
Speaker 7: No, we live We lived in both sides of the city,
Speaker 7: on the east side and on the west side, both
Speaker 7: sides during the time we were out there. But we'd
Speaker 7: take a lot of trips going up. We had a
Speaker 7: young we had a baby, and we'd take day trips
Speaker 7: up into the mountains and stuff like that, you know,
Speaker 7: and then come back, you know. So we saw what
Speaker 7: it was like out there, you know, very very different,
Speaker 7: very different. So I'll let us people talk.
Speaker 2: Ruth, Thank you much. I appreciated interesting perspective. I'm glad
Speaker 2: you're back in Uxbridge, to be honest with you.
Speaker 9: Yes, me too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's devastating, devastating than it is.
Speaker 7: Thank you. Happy new to you too.
Speaker 1: Byebye.
Speaker 2: We'll be back on night Side. We'll continue to call,
Speaker 2: will continue to talk about this. Six one, seven, two, five,
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Speaker 2: after this quick break.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World,
Speaker 1: Nice Sight Studio. I'm WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Let's go next to Jerry and Michigan. Jerry, next to
Speaker 2: night Thanks for calling in. How are you sure?
Speaker 10: Hi, Hi, Dan, I'm fine. I wanted to tell you
Speaker 10: how they load those planes up with water, I.
Speaker 2: Believe, love you know, yeah, how did they do that?
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 10: They've they've got a pan like a vent, a reverse
Speaker 10: vent on the belly, and what they do is they
Speaker 10: fly over the whatever it is, a lake or the
Speaker 10: ocean or whatever, and they scoop that water up into
Speaker 10: the plane as they fly over. And it takes I'm
Speaker 10: going to say a minute or so to do. It
Speaker 10: doesn't take very long. And that technology, Hold on, I
Speaker 10: got questions.
Speaker 2: The person who sent me the material hasn't called in,
Speaker 2: so thank you. How low do they have to fly
Speaker 2: over the body of water to scoop the water up?
Speaker 10: Well, they got to make contact with it, so it's
Speaker 10: almost like a seaplane. You've probably seen steam planes into
Speaker 10: You got to make contact with the water or you're
Speaker 10: not going to pick it up. And so they're flying
Speaker 10: probably one hundred and twenty to one hundred and fifty
Speaker 10: miles an hour, so I mean they're really they're really
Speaker 10: moving along and it doesn't take long depending on how
Speaker 10: big their scoop is. And they'll have that plane loader
Speaker 10: that I'm going to say, in less than a minute.
Speaker 2: Okay, So now how long has this technology been available?
Speaker 7: Is this that?
Speaker 10: Believe it or not? That technology goes back to World
Speaker 10: War two because you know as well as I do,
Speaker 10: that we had steam locomotives back in that era that
Speaker 10: ran on water and coal and then they switched cold oil. Well,
Speaker 10: the steam locomotives, what they would do is they would
Speaker 10: flood between the tracks and instead of having that train
Speaker 10: stop at a at a one of those whistle stops
Speaker 10: where they brought the big pipe down from the water
Speaker 10: tower and filled the tender with water, they dropped a scoop.
Speaker 10: That train would drop a scoop and they would load
Speaker 10: that tender up full of water in no time. Okay,
Speaker 10: so that technology goes way back.
Speaker 2: Okay, so here's my question, Jerry. They someone said that
Speaker 2: they were able to put on like one point seven
Speaker 2: million gallons of water on the plane.
Speaker 10: Well, probably a big seven. I don't know what planes
Speaker 10: they're using, they have have them out there.
Speaker 2: They said seven. They were two seven to twenty sevens.
Speaker 2: The question is, if the plane is on the water
Speaker 2: scoops the water into the belly of the plane, how
Speaker 2: the hell can the plane get off? The ground. It
Speaker 2: has nothing to it has no runway to come down.
Speaker 10: It's it's still flying. It's flying right over the water.
Speaker 10: It's it's flying just at the surface of the water,
Speaker 10: scoop in that water up. It's still in flight. It's
Speaker 10: not a question is it taking off or whatever. It's
Speaker 10: still And I'm.
Speaker 2: Assuming that it would only be able to fly over
Speaker 2: a body of water where it had. When I say
Speaker 2: when I use the word runway, I'm using the word
Speaker 2: runway in sort of a metaphorical sense. It couldn't drop
Speaker 2: down just on a small lake. It would have to
Speaker 2: be able to come down. You just can't. You can't
Speaker 2: like dive bomb down. You got to have quite a
Speaker 2: distance to be able to run.
Speaker 10: I assume it's gonna need probably two to three miles
Speaker 10: at least, because depending on the airplane and the wait.
Speaker 10: But it's it's probably going out over the ocean out
Speaker 10: there where you're at. But we have those planes around here.
Speaker 10: I'm in northern Lower Michigan, and we have a lot
Speaker 10: of wildfires out here. Just as soon as the snow melts,
Speaker 10: we have wildfires here that end up going across two
Speaker 10: and three counties. But that's that's the that's the way
Speaker 10: they do it. And and one of those planes that
Speaker 10: they had out there was taken out a commission because
Speaker 10: somebody was flying a drone and the drone hit right
Speaker 10: on the leading edge of one of those planes and
Speaker 10: took one of them out of service. So they only
Speaker 10: have two of them now that are available for flight.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that the plane that it took out
Speaker 2: a service was one of these seven thirty sevens, these
Speaker 2: seven No.
Speaker 10: You're right, you're right, it wasn't. It was a red one,
Speaker 10: And I don't know. And they probably have those smaller
Speaker 10: planes so they can get into smaller lakes.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. The seven thirty sevens are based at Colorado Springs,
Speaker 2: which is close to the Air Force Academy, and it
Speaker 2: said it was based at the Colorado Springs Airport. Why
Speaker 2: they haven't been They could fly, if they could do it,
Speaker 2: fly right over the Pacific Ocean and run run, you know.
Speaker 10: And the other thing they have or they have helicopters.
Speaker 10: I don't know if those are out there or not,
Speaker 10: but they have like these elephant snouts or whatever you
Speaker 10: want to call it, or maybe six or eight inches
Speaker 10: or ten inches in diameter. They dropped down and they
Speaker 10: suck the water up. That takes a lot longer and
Speaker 10: they don't carry as much water, but they scooped that
Speaker 10: water out and like I say, they did that with
Speaker 10: trains back around World War two.
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, Jerry, have you called my show before
Speaker 2: since your first time?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 10: No, I called you had an airplane thing when the
Speaker 10: eight of system went down three or four years ago.
Speaker 10: I called you and told you talk to you about
Speaker 10: about that. I don't call you very often, but I've
Speaker 10: been listening to you for years.
Speaker 2: Jerry. I appreciate it very much. What town are you
Speaker 2: in out there?
Speaker 10: I'm in a very small town. It's I'm going to
Speaker 10: tell you. I'm around Grailing, which is about an hour
Speaker 10: and a half south of the bridge there between the
Speaker 10: up and Yeah, I got an idea.
Speaker 2: I know. I know Michigan a little bit. Jerry. I
Speaker 2: appreciate you called very much. I really do.
Speaker 10: I'm in a I'm out out in the middle of
Speaker 10: the out in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, when when you're on night side, you're
Speaker 2: you're in the middle of everywhere. Because you got a
Speaker 2: lot of people in a lot of parts of the
Speaker 2: country listening to you tonight. It was a very informative
Speaker 2: phone call. The fellaw who sent me the seven twenty
Speaker 2: seven pictures. I wish that he would be listening tonight.
Speaker 2: We get a lot of information people send to you,
Speaker 2: and then it's like, hey, I'm going to use it,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna have some questions. You helped answer some
Speaker 2: of my questions. You were God sent tonight, Jerry. I
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Don't be a strange.
Speaker 10: Well, for ten years, I got a pilot's license. I
Speaker 10: flew instruments for ten years, and my license is hanging
Speaker 10: on the wall. Now I got heard issues and I
Speaker 10: can't fly anymore. But I've got it all upstairs. Still
Speaker 10: I can still go and fly. I just take an
Speaker 10: instructor with me.
Speaker 2: He sounds sharp as attack. Appreciate it. Appreciate Jerry, talk soon.
Speaker 10: Thank you. I have a good evening.
Speaker 1: Okay, bye.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's keep broller. You're going to go to
Speaker 2: Susan in Cambridge. Susan, I suspect you and I are
Speaker 2: looking at this very in a very similar fashion. How
Speaker 2: are you, Susan.
Speaker 11: I'm good, I'm good. And I just got to say,
Speaker 11: Jerry and Michigan rocks really informative call. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 11: learned a lot. I just wanted to provide some context
Speaker 11: to something that the prior college, Steve had said about
Speaker 11: the you know, the reservoir being taken offline. And while
Speaker 11: you know that may have posted some issues, they didn't
Speaker 11: run out of water in like a traditional sense of
Speaker 11: like there wasn't enough water. It was an issue of
Speaker 11: at elevation they have to put And I missed a
Speaker 11: little bit of your prior hour, so I don't know
Speaker 11: if this is discussed, but they have these giant tanks
Speaker 11: that they have of filled up in the palisades because
Speaker 11: you can't you can't just get water from a hydrant
Speaker 11: at elevation, that's true, like anywhere, you know. So they
Speaker 11: had these giant tanks up there, right, and the tanks
Speaker 11: ran dry before they could be refilled. Like it's basically
Speaker 11: a long term infrastructure problem. And they hadn't they hadn't
Speaker 11: had to deal with stuff in that you know, particular
Speaker 11: residential area before where the planes were. The planes couldn't fly,
Speaker 11: I mean they were usually yes, there's you know Santa
Speaker 11: Ana wins and they kick up, but they usually don't
Speaker 11: come on quite so hard and so fast, and so
Speaker 11: usually they can get the planes up and do some
Speaker 11: preliminary stuff. You know, it's kind of like salting the
Speaker 11: roads around here, you know what I mean, like pre treatment,
Speaker 11: you know. But they kicked up up, you know, so
Speaker 11: viciously that the planes were grounded, and so they had
Speaker 11: to rely on you know, just the existing you know
Speaker 11: water in those tanks, and they simply couldn't keep up
Speaker 11: the refilling with the usage because it was such an
Speaker 11: out of control fire.
Speaker 2: Well that might be interesting, but and it may have
Speaker 2: maybe absolutely accurate. I'm not an expert on it, but
Speaker 2: that's a little consolation to people who watch their houses bright.
Speaker 2: I mean, this has never happened on this magnitude. There
Speaker 2: have been fires in small towns. Remember there was a
Speaker 2: fire in a small California town four or five years
Speaker 2: ago that I mean it was literally a town that
Speaker 2: right woods, this is Los Angeles, this is suburban Los Angeles,
Speaker 2: I mean right.
Speaker 11: Well, but that actually makes it harder to fight because
Speaker 11: you can't really do it's difficult to do controlled burns
Speaker 11: around fidential areas, and they're limited in their seasons. Like
Speaker 11: obviously you can't do a control burn in the dry season, right,
Speaker 11: so you have to do them, you know, in the
Speaker 11: wet season. But if the wet season isn't particularly wet
Speaker 11: or doesn't last as long, then you can't do it.
Speaker 11: And then if you're trying to do it in a
Speaker 11: residential area, it's really impossible because.
Speaker 9: Many dangers or susan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, you wouldn't want to do a control burn
Speaker 2: in a residential area. You go in and you get
Speaker 2: that stuff out. Now, I'm not an expert in this,
Speaker 2: but if this has never happened before, and the people
Speaker 2: who are in charge, the mayor out there, I guess
Speaker 2: in December a month ago, cut the fire budget by
Speaker 2: seventeen million dollars.
Speaker 11: Okay, I got to give contacts for that.
Speaker 2: Oh, of course, because it's a democratic mayor. Go ahead.
Speaker 11: Yeah, well let's just look, she inherited a budget shortfall.
Speaker 11: The fire department actually got like the lowest cut. It
Speaker 11: was two percent. The budget is over eight hundred and eighty.
Speaker 11: Is it million or billion?
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be billion, it wouldn't be billion.
Speaker 11: Okay, yeah, okay, million. So so it was a it
Speaker 11: was a two percent cut, it's and it was the
Speaker 11: least of like you know, all the departments basically, except
Speaker 11: I think for police.
Speaker 2: Susan. Can I ask you a question, and this is
Speaker 2: an honest question, Okay, if this had been a Republican community,
Speaker 2: do you think you would have been reaching for as
Speaker 2: many excuses as you're reaching for right now. I mean
Speaker 2: this in a very gentle way. I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: be difficult.
Speaker 11: This is well, if it was if it was a
Speaker 11: Republican would you be would you not be providing context?
Speaker 11: You always provide content. The boneheaded thing that Trump says,
Speaker 11: you know, you're always providing context, but you never you
Speaker 11: never know that for Kamala.
Speaker 2: Harris, really well, oh, let me ask you when when
Speaker 2: Trump back in twenty and sixteen, and you've been listening
Speaker 2: a long time, made the comment the so called Billy
Speaker 2: Bush tape, you know, the one I'm talking about. We
Speaker 2: talked about grab right private parts. Do you know what
Speaker 2: my comment was? This was October twenty sixteen. I said,
Speaker 2: get off the ticket, resign from.
Speaker 11: The ticket, right, Okay. But more recently you have provided
Speaker 11: context for things like like the things when he said,
Speaker 11: you know there's going to be blood you know, I
Speaker 11: don't know bloodshed or something like that, and you provided
Speaker 11: context for what he said.
Speaker 2: I have what you're talking about there. Look, I am
Speaker 2: not a Trump person, as I think.
Speaker 9: You know you're not.
Speaker 2: You probably know that, Okay.
Speaker 11: So I even don't provide context for Democrats.
Speaker 6: I mean, we all have biases, Dan, But what I'm
Speaker 6: saying is you just had But Susan, this is a
Speaker 6: devastating lack of leadership, A devastating This is.
Speaker 2: I can't think of anything that has hit me harder
Speaker 2: in terms. I looked at what happened in Hawaii and
Speaker 2: I was I felt concerned about that. But but it
Speaker 2: is now starting to percolate up that they were budget
Speaker 2: counts seventeen you know, billion dollars, not billion dollars, seventeen
Speaker 2: million dollars. That's a lot of money. That's a lot
Speaker 2: of money. And all I'm just saying is that you
Speaker 2: have you have, you have news him out there, the governor.
Speaker 2: Thank god, you finally elected a district attorney in Los Angeles,
Speaker 2: this fellow Nathan Haukshman, Huckman, who apparently is willing to
Speaker 2: enforce the law. And if anybody's out there scamming or looting,
Speaker 2: they're gonna they're gonna end up in jail. I don't
Speaker 2: think Gascon would have put them in jail anyway. I
Speaker 2: don't provide a context for Trump. Never have, uh never will.
Speaker 2: I've said when my comment is about Trump, as I
Speaker 2: think you heard me say this a million times, he
Speaker 2: could hire competent people, and he could hire some people
Speaker 2: who were loyal, but he couldn't hire people who were
Speaker 2: both competent and loyal, which is a devastating criticism because
Speaker 2: if you confinde find people who are both competent and loyal,
Speaker 2: you shouldn't be the president of the United States.
Speaker 11: Okay, I would submit that anyone who's who's going to
Speaker 11: pass his loyalty test is probably not going to be
Speaker 11: particularly competent.
Speaker 2: Well, that may be, And that's my comment. And if
Speaker 2: you if you consider that that I'm providing context to
Speaker 2: defending him, I think you're mistaken. Anyway, Good luck with
Speaker 2: Karen Bass. She decided to take a little trip as
Speaker 2: as the mayor of Los Angeles to a celebration of
Speaker 2: presidential inauguration in Ghana, and was she was out of
Speaker 2: town when Harold Washington was out of town on a
Speaker 2: blizzard in Chicago. Uh, that was not nearly as predictable
Speaker 2: as this. You knew the Santa Anna wins were coming.
Speaker 2: And then you have you have Governor Newsom. This is
Speaker 2: the end of his career right there. Period. This is
Speaker 2: going to be tattooed on his political resume forever. So
Speaker 2: find yourself a new front runner for twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 11: Susan, Well, he was never my choice anyway. So well,
Speaker 11: but may have been some you know, some issues, but
Speaker 11: can we not overlook this. This is an unprecedented natural disaster.
Speaker 11: You know, I didn't see people in you know, western
Speaker 11: North Carolina, you know, well they were they were, I mean,
Speaker 11: people on the right were blaming you know, we're claiming
Speaker 11: that you know, the government was controlling the weather and
Speaker 11: creating oh wha, wha wha was waste.
Speaker 2: There was a woman who worked for THEEMA who testified
Speaker 2: in front of car Ungress that she had been instructed
Speaker 2: not to provide assistance to people who had Trump signs
Speaker 2: of support on their homes.
Speaker 11: People from Shima were being threatened by people with Trump signs.
Speaker 11: There were people I.
Speaker 2: Can just imagine that. I can imagine that. Susan. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, Susan, I got a run. Thanks very much,
Speaker 2: this was not your greatest call. Okay, thank you much,
Speaker 2: appreciate it, all right, Oh God, Daryln Brunswick in New Brunswick, Daryl,
Speaker 2: welcome back.
Speaker 3: How are you hey?
Speaker 9: Dan? I was just calling in to Kauflman and Jerry
Speaker 9: reference the aircraft for water bombing. Yes, he did great
Speaker 9: and great and also Gaylord is a great area. They
Speaker 9: got a great place where you order anything and you
Speaker 9: get a pound of bacon every order.
Speaker 3: All right, that's good.
Speaker 9: Don't know what I'm talking about, but anyways, a serial
Speaker 9: two fifteen's they're actually made out of Canada. Canada there,
Speaker 9: and uh what they do is they have scoops on
Speaker 9: the very bottom. Like Jerry was saying, but they also
Speaker 9: have a relief mechanism so that way they don't overflow.
Speaker 9: So they don't because they have the boat for an end.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, again, I gotta be honest with you. I'm not
Speaker 2: an expert in this one, Darryl at all, and any
Speaker 2: uh any information. I thought Jerry explained it pretty well.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that these planes literally, uh skim the
Speaker 2: surface of a body of water to ingest upwards of
Speaker 2: a million gallons of water onto the plane and they
Speaker 2: still can stay, they still can gain altitude after that.
Speaker 2: It's it's amazing. One of my listeners like.
Speaker 9: The old what they're like, the old p B PB wise.
Speaker 2: Oh, the pb wise. You're right, Darrel, I forgot about those. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're similar to the r X fours too, by the way.
Speaker 2: And I think the x W threes I think they're
Speaker 2: in the same category, don't Darryl. Thanks thanks man, I
Speaker 2: gotta run talk soon. Thanks bye bye. Oh come on, folks,
Speaker 2: we had some good calls earlier. Let's finish up strong
Speaker 2: six one, seven, two. I don't need any excuses for
Speaker 2: Karen Bass and I don't need any excuses for Gavin Newsom. Okay,
Speaker 2: their political careers are at an end at this point
Speaker 2: as of the preparations. This is devastating. And anyone who
Speaker 2: wants to call and make excuses for these these fools,
Speaker 2: uh and and Susan is better than that. And I
Speaker 2: thought Jerry explained everything, uh clearly. Uh and again six one,
Speaker 2: seven four ten thirty, six seven thirty. We're coming right
Speaker 2: back on night Side.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ, the News Radio.
Speaker 2: I wish you could have heard the conversation between Rob
Speaker 2: and me. Just then, Folks, when you call, try to
Speaker 2: stay on topic, Okay, just try to stay on topic. Okay, Daryl,
Speaker 2: if you're listening, I don't care that there's there's some
Speaker 2: place in Michigan you get a pound of bacon. I mean,
Speaker 2: we're talking about some serious stuff, Daryl. Let's get back
Speaker 2: to the call. It's gonna go to Dave in Bridgewater. Dave,
Speaker 2: welcome to Nightside. How are you?
Speaker 8: Dan? Hey, Look at let's be real about this. A
Speaker 8: plane cannot lift a million gallons of water, all right, Yeah,
Speaker 8: there's no way eight pounds a gallon. There's no way
Speaker 8: a planet could lift that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no way, be real, right, Okay, let me tell
Speaker 2: you what someone sent me. A guy who occasionally communicates
Speaker 2: with me sent me pictures, and I'm going to find
Speaker 2: them here because I want you to understand I'm.
Speaker 8: Not nice to say one the biggest plane in the
Speaker 8: world can carry a load of two hundred and forty
Speaker 8: ton Okay, that's the biggest plane in the world.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good to know.
Speaker 8: Milliam a million gallons of water is it's it's not
Speaker 8: even feasible. You can't even what never couldn't even happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let me let me see if I can
Speaker 2: find these.
Speaker 8: Let me see if these are This fire is, like
Speaker 8: you said, devastating, and they should have been prepared for this,
Speaker 8: they speak, there should be water lines coming from the ocean.
Speaker 8: Whatever they have to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the plane that was that that I received,
Speaker 2: and the fellow who sent the information to me is
Speaker 2: pretty sharp, dude. It's called the seven forty seven Supertanker.
Speaker 2: The seven forty seven to Supertanker is a retired aerial
Speaker 2: firefighting air tanker derived from various Boeing seven forty seven models.
Speaker 2: The aircraft's rated up to carry nineteen uh nineteen thousand
Speaker 2: US gallons.
Speaker 8: Right thousand gallons. Yeah, that's not nearly a million.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I understand that somebody mentioned that, and I
Speaker 2: should have caught it to be.
Speaker 8: Water and a lot of weight.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. And that's just trying to figure out.
Speaker 8: That the spires burned so hot that the water hardly
Speaker 8: does anything. Really, it's you know, it's the winds are
Speaker 8: so fast and like, you know, you can't control the weather,
Speaker 8: but in the wind.
Speaker 2: Well, I will, I just say this. The Santa Anna
Speaker 2: winds are very predictable. They happened every year in California.
Speaker 2: Now they may have happened with more intensity, but California
Speaker 2: should have been on the alert. Remember how we had
Speaker 2: some drought this summer. We had rained that August, and
Speaker 2: then we had nothing in September, October into November, and
Speaker 2: we had a whole bunch of brush fires around the state.
Speaker 2: Uh and and and then then we did get rain.
Speaker 2: They hadn't had any substantial rain, I believe, since May.
Speaker 9: And that.
Speaker 2: You have the mayor who flies off to a presidential
Speaker 2: inauguration in Ghana, Ghana. I mean, so you're former congresswoman
Speaker 2: Congress Mayor Bass, and you have the guy out there
Speaker 2: who's been running for President Governor Gavin Newsom, and they
Speaker 2: cut they cut the fire budget by seventeen million dollars.
Speaker 8: I mean that that's such a bad move. I mean, well,
Speaker 8: where's all this money go to the people who are
Speaker 8: coming in from the border. Well, it doesn't go to
Speaker 8: the homeless people or anything like that. They waste money
Speaker 8: and it's terrible that they don't have fire control out
Speaker 8: their prevention and they just they spend money. Stupid.
Speaker 2: They also appearently not clear out a lot of underbrush.
Speaker 2: And you know, people were talking about having controlled burns.
Speaker 2: I don't you kind of have a controlled burn neighborhood.
Speaker 8: No, not like that, Not like that. They got to
Speaker 8: you know, you go in with the army, the core
Speaker 8: or whatever and clean it up, you know, to chip
Speaker 8: it up and you know, make make guidance out of
Speaker 8: it whatever. But you have to take care of it.
Speaker 8: You don't see that stuff happening out here. And there's
Speaker 8: a lot of debris in the woods too, a lot
Speaker 8: of trees down, A lot of fire could happen, but
Speaker 8: we don't. I mean, we had winds this week, but
Speaker 8: not like they have a California hundred miles an hour. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I mean that's that's a there's plenty of fuel for
Speaker 8: that fire to burn, and you throw that winding with
Speaker 8: that oxygen. It's burning so hot it can't stop it.
Speaker 8: It makes its own storm. It's it's and then what
Speaker 8: scares me is that it's not gonna go west. It's
Speaker 8: gonna come east, and that's where.
Speaker 2: We It's like, well, I think, well, I think that
Speaker 2: we geographically are protected in the sense that in New
Speaker 2: England we have of all the weather patterns around the country.
Speaker 2: We have blizzards, we have hurricanes. Yeah, we get that.
Speaker 2: Sometimes we get you know, big time marine storms.
Speaker 8: We haven't had a while.
Speaker 2: Well, we've had a lot of rain in the last
Speaker 2: month and a half. Believe me, we actually it turned out.
Speaker 2: I believe that in twenty in twenty twenty four, we
Speaker 2: actually had uh more inches of rain in the Boston
Speaker 2: area than on average.
Speaker 8: After even with all, I heard on WPZ this morning
Speaker 8: that they just lifted the burning or the du roat. Yeah,
Speaker 8: in the west of Massachusetts today.
Speaker 2: I get that. Yeah, And obviously the what I'm saying
Speaker 2: is at the end of the day here we we
Speaker 2: kind of dodged a bullet, is what I guess. But
Speaker 2: we're both agreeing upon. Hey, look, I appreciate you all day.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Appreciate Yeah. Absolutely, you'll go to
Speaker 2: Mike and MITHU and Mike you might wrap us up here.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Mike, Hey, I'm doing just great. What's your
Speaker 2: take on all of this?
Speaker 8: I agree?
Speaker 12: Yeah, terrible. Look that it was, you know, a couple
Speaker 12: of years ago we saw pictures of this, so you know,
Speaker 12: it was a freak accident once, but it can't be
Speaker 12: a freak accident twice. Kind of fool me once. Shame
Speaker 12: on you and pull me.
Speaker 2: There happened fires before you had the fire in Hawaii
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, which again there was a
Speaker 2: weather situation out there and I guess they had some
Speaker 2: high winds and it got going and uh and they
Speaker 2: did have some fires previously in California. I know there
Speaker 2: was a small town that was devastated, but this is
Speaker 2: a big city.
Speaker 12: Who did anything like this, No, And I just I
Speaker 12: pray for all the people out there, and I just
Speaker 12: I was at the doctor Goblin and I just saw
Speaker 12: that you know, they're setting up you know, donation mines
Speaker 12: and things like that. So that's one thing we can
Speaker 12: be hopeful for.
Speaker 3: But I do.
Speaker 12: Go ahead.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying, you look at these people, and
Speaker 2: you know, when we have a fire back here and
Speaker 2: there's a family that loses everything, or for that matter,
Speaker 2: an apartment building. I was watching the news tonight there
Speaker 2: was an apartment building I think it was in Fall River.
Speaker 2: Fifteen people or have to find a new place to live,
Speaker 2: and they may have lost a lot of their worldly possessions.
Speaker 2: But fifteen people, they can go to Red Cross, they
Speaker 2: can go to Salvation Army. There's Catholic charities, there's a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of charitable organizations that help people get back
Speaker 2: their feet. But there are thousands of families that have
Speaker 2: lost everything in California. I mean, the scope of this
Speaker 2: is monumental. I don't know.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I agree, I don't know how you recover. I
Speaker 12: really don't. Because they're using seawater, which is salting earth.
Speaker 12: So you got one bad choice or another.
Speaker 2: Yeah. They were saying that that even if they could
Speaker 2: have scooped seawater out, it could have had an adverse
Speaker 2: impact on some of the the planes end or helicopters.
Speaker 2: I I'm not a smart enough person kept from a
Speaker 2: chemical point of view, to understand. I do understand that
Speaker 2: that that seawater is corrosive, and anyone who lives near
Speaker 2: uh the Atlantic Ocean knows exactly what what what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about there, But boy, this is I just think
Speaker 2: there's such a lack of leadership. California has has has
Speaker 2: been bereft of leadership for a long time. And uh,
Speaker 2: there were some bad decisions made here and now mother
Speaker 2: nature wake up. I sure hope so too. And uh, look,
Speaker 2: we all kind of go along. We get up every day,
Speaker 2: we work, we pay our taxes, We don't think about things,
Speaker 2: but there are decisions that are made by government that
Speaker 2: have long term implications. You know, what happened, what happened
Speaker 2: in North Carolina was this this superstorm that came up
Speaker 2: and there was and it happened to hit a poor
Speaker 2: section of western North Carolina. Totally different. It's it's frightening.
Speaker 2: It's just frightening. And I think all of us need
Speaker 2: to pray for these people and and hope that nothing
Speaker 2: like this ever happens again, or at least we get
Speaker 2: some better political leadership at California.
Speaker 10: I agree.
Speaker 12: Just one thing for all the listeners, with.
Speaker 3: Your listeners out there, yep, let's be prepared.
Speaker 12: Let's let's make emergency catch for ourselves just in case.
Speaker 2: Absolutely What do you what do you do if your
Speaker 2: house goes on fire? What do you grab? And you
Speaker 2: don't have a lot of time? You know, those people
Speaker 2: had a matter of minute or two to get out
Speaker 2: of their house.
Speaker 12: I'm gonna think about that an idea.
Speaker 2: All right, Mike, me too, Thanks, my friend, talk to
Speaker 2: you soon. All right, I think we've wrapped this. I
Speaker 2: think we have talked about this. We're gonna go to
Speaker 2: the eleven o'clock hour and we're gonna change it up
Speaker 2: just a little bit. It's the twentieth hour. I'll explain
Speaker 2: right after the eleven o'clock news