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Speaker 2: Happy Friday, Colorado.
Speaker 3: It's Heidi Ganal filling in for the great Dan Caplis
Speaker 3: and joining Ryan. Ryan, We've got so much to banter
Speaker 3: about your legions of topic. I've started making a listen.
Speaker 3: I ran out of room on my three pages of paper.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I wanted to start with inauguration
Speaker 3: because we were both there. We kept texting and trying
Speaker 3: to connect, but it was crazy town. What was your
Speaker 3: favorite moment while you were there?
Speaker 4: Oh? Wow, great question.
Speaker 5: I think it was the anticipation of waiting in line.
Speaker 5: I was pot committed to that endeavor when they changed
Speaker 5: everything up, Hidi, you and I both made travel plans
Speaker 5: and advance lodging plans in advance to attend this thing,
Speaker 5: thinking it would be on the mall at the Capitol,
Speaker 5: between there and the Washington Monument, plenty of rooms from
Speaker 5: up to one hundred thousand people.
Speaker 4: And then they changed the game.
Speaker 5: They moved it to just dignitaries, VIPs, member of Congress,
Speaker 5: members of Congress in the rotunda.
Speaker 4: I wasn't getting in there. I'm not one of those
Speaker 4: me either, and.
Speaker 5: I just figured I didn't have time really to apply
Speaker 5: for a media credential, and I thought, you know what,
Speaker 5: I'm going to just go as the average Trump supporter,
Speaker 5: stand in line, meet some people.
Speaker 4: And that experience, in of itself, Heidi, was fascinating to me.
Speaker 5: Four hours worth of fascinating in twenty degree weather, although
Speaker 5: it was colder here, I know that, but just you know,
Speaker 5: the feeling of unity and excitement and enthusiasm and optimism
Speaker 5: for the future. It just permeated throughout Washington, d C.
Speaker 5: It was a takeover by those who support Donald Trump
Speaker 5: make America great again, people who love America, love this country.
Speaker 5: And I experienced all of that as I entered Capital
Speaker 5: One Arena, and I knew that by doing that, Heidi,
Speaker 5: I was committed for the whole day inside that building.
Speaker 5: And that's where I stayed from about nine to twenty
Speaker 5: am Eastern tome to seven pm when Trump left and
Speaker 5: I walked out.
Speaker 2: Wow, that is a long day.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 2: Was the food good or no?
Speaker 4: It was awful.
Speaker 5: It was stadium food, but think like you know, the
Speaker 5: State Fair, but only some items are available. And then
Speaker 5: they ran out and I was left with like just
Speaker 5: chicken tenders and fries, which was the least bad option
Speaker 5: of what I had available to me.
Speaker 4: They weren't selling alcohol, probably a good thing, but yeah
Speaker 4: it was.
Speaker 5: It was a little treacherous, especially going in, but once
Speaker 5: you got in you had a little restless go use
Speaker 5: to the restroom, you get some bad.
Speaker 4: Concessions, you know.
Speaker 5: But had a great time watching all the speakers come in,
Speaker 5: including President Trump Elon Musk. Of course all the controversy
Speaker 5: went with that, and I got to say, just one thing,
Speaker 5: being there live watching in a real time, I didn't
Speaker 5: notice anything resembling a Nazi salute.
Speaker 4: It was reduced.
Speaker 2: And that's such ridiculous banter about that. Give me a break.
Speaker 3: I think they were scraping at the bottom of the
Speaker 3: barrel to find things to complain about. Ye And what
Speaker 3: I love about this week is it's been shock and awe,
Speaker 3: Like they are throwing so much at the Democrats and
Speaker 3: the liberal media.
Speaker 2: They don't even know what to do with it. Their
Speaker 2: heads are spinning.
Speaker 3: Even our beloved Kyle Clark Eric Colorado doesn't know what the.
Speaker 2: Heck to do, He doesn't know how to respond. No,
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: And as I sat preparing for the show, I'm like,
Speaker 3: what are some of my favorite things he's done this week?
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, it's only been four days, It's.
Speaker 3: Literally been four days. And how many eos have they passed?
Speaker 3: Executive orders? An incredible number. So this is the first
Speaker 3: Friday after inauguration, so I'm gonna call TGIF. Thank god
Speaker 3: it's the friday after the inauguration we don't ever have
Speaker 3: to hear about Joe Biden or Kamala Harris again. Although
Speaker 3: I did see the pictures of her grocery shopping with
Speaker 3: her husband, do you think she actually realized how expensive
Speaker 3: everything was finally as she's standing there in the.
Speaker 2: Grocery store aisles.
Speaker 4: Perhaps?
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: I honestly think that's what beat them was the terrible
Speaker 3: economy and seeing what's happening to people's pocketbooks. I just
Speaker 3: saw stat on X that said twenty twenty four US
Speaker 3: existing home sales are the lowest since nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 2: That's bad, and.
Speaker 3: That's a symptom of this terrible economy that we're inheriting.
Speaker 3: And I truly believe Trump will turn things around. I
Speaker 3: loved when they asked him about interest rates. You know
Speaker 3: what's gonna happen in this raies I'm gonna fix it
Speaker 3: or what do you think they're going to say about Well,
Speaker 3: I don't really care, Like he literally doesn't care anymore.
Speaker 3: I love that part of it too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And like you said, they've kind of used the
Speaker 5: rules for radicals by saw Lensky against the Democrats themselves.
Speaker 5: And that's the term that Steve Bannon uses, which is
Speaker 5: fled the zone. He fled the zone. Their heads are spinning.
Speaker 5: They don't know what to respond to. They latch onto
Speaker 5: the Elon Musk Nazi salute story idiotically, I might add.
Speaker 5: All the while Donald Trump is signing executive order one
Speaker 5: after the other getting things lined up the border have
Speaker 5: already deported what over five hundred illegal criminal aliens from
Speaker 5: the United States. I mean, it's dazzling. It is dazzling
Speaker 5: this week. It's not even been a week, Heidi, it's
Speaker 5: just been five days as of today, and you look
Speaker 5: at everything that President Trump has already gotten done.
Speaker 4: It just makes me hungry for more.
Speaker 3: I agree. I agree we're getting spoiled very quickly. I
Speaker 3: guess there's only so much he can do through executive order.
Speaker 3: I think we've at least got a couple months left
Speaker 3: of lovely fun days of watching headlines, and you know,
Speaker 3: I think there's some very very important things happening with
Speaker 3: the dynamics around the world and in this country.
Speaker 2: He's getting off the plane right now.
Speaker 5: How about this Gavin Newsom meeting him on the tarmac. Yeah,
Speaker 5: air Force one. I think that's a very interesting optic
Speaker 5: and visual there.
Speaker 3: I love it. I'm watching it on Fox and CNN
Speaker 3: and the different headlines. I can't wait for Trump to
Speaker 3: like roll off the tongue some zappor at him, and
Speaker 3: Gavin's not going to know what to do with himself.
Speaker 5: But I think even Trump, despite his instincts, might hold
Speaker 5: back a little bit with Gavin on the tiremac with him,
Speaker 5: at least.
Speaker 4: For the moment.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe Milania looks amazing today as.
Speaker 4: Look at that thought.
Speaker 5: She's just wearing sunglasses, a baseball cap and a tan jacket.
Speaker 4: She looks amazing, Like you.
Speaker 2: Said, that's what somebody said.
Speaker 3: She made black stretch pants, army boots and black hats
Speaker 3: and sunglasses. Faint like that's popular again. I should have
Speaker 3: showed up in that outfit today.
Speaker 4: You should have. I mean I kind of didn't you.
Speaker 2: I didn't have time to go shopping, but I will.
Speaker 2: I will. That's my kind of outfit, anything comfortable.
Speaker 3: After spending all those nights in ball gowns this week
Speaker 3: and high.
Speaker 2: Heels, I was like, this is so not me. Oh
Speaker 2: my goodness. I love I mean, I love dressing up.
Speaker 5: But well, take us through your experience then, Heidi, what
Speaker 5: were you able to gain access to? I know I
Speaker 5: struck out, but that's fine, that's okay. I did my
Speaker 5: own thing. But where did you end up going? I
Speaker 5: had a hit and miss experience.
Speaker 3: I mean I tried to attend as much as I could.
Speaker 3: I got to go to the America First Institute balls.
Speaker 2: When was that night? That was incredible?
Speaker 3: It was at the Waldorf as STORYA was beautiful, very
Speaker 3: well done. All the cabinet, like most of the cabinet
Speaker 3: members were there. Speaker Johnson was there. Got to talk
Speaker 3: to Governor Sarah Sanders, who have gotten to know she's
Speaker 3: a dog. He she is one of the sweetest people.
Speaker 3: And that was a blast. And then you go to
Speaker 3: the Turning Point Ball the next night, which was crazy,
Speaker 3: like thousands of people bands, Kid Rock played. Of course
Speaker 3: the Village people were there. It was awesome in a
Speaker 3: different kind of way. And stayed out way too late.
Speaker 4: I done.
Speaker 2: I me at the age. I don't know that that's
Speaker 2: a great idea.
Speaker 5: It's a coin flip for you and me, Heidi, we're
Speaker 5: at that age.
Speaker 3: That pushed me to actually stay nice and cozy and
Speaker 3: comfy in the hotel to watch the inauguration on the TV.
Speaker 3: And then I tried to go to the Liberty Ball.
Speaker 3: I had this golden ticket. I got one ticket, so
Speaker 3: my husband and daughter and her boyfriend couldn't.
Speaker 2: Couldn't go with me.
Speaker 3: I get all dressed up in my ball down, I
Speaker 3: put the big puffy jacket on.
Speaker 2: They say to show up at five o'clock.
Speaker 3: Stood in line for two and a half hours in
Speaker 3: the freezing cold, Oh my goodness, and finally I bailed
Speaker 3: at eight o'clock. I was like, I can't do it anymore.
Speaker 3: I can't feel my feet, my fingers. They kept shifting
Speaker 3: the line around. That was a big disappointment. The entrance
Speaker 3: and the whole getting in the liberty ball thing, right.
Speaker 3: But I was so spoiled I got to go the
Speaker 3: other two. So I went and had a nice steak
Speaker 3: dinner and watched it on TV.
Speaker 2: Nice and then I.
Speaker 3: Got to be on UK TV as a commentator Channel
Speaker 3: four UK, which is like the BBC. They had me
Speaker 3: come into their studio on was that Tuesday and or no?
Speaker 2: Was it Monday?
Speaker 3: Monday afternoon, I guess, right after inauguration and they put
Speaker 3: me on with this very very liberal commentator.
Speaker 2: It was hilarious. You'll have to watch the clip.
Speaker 3: It's on Twitter and some of my social media. They're like,
Speaker 3: what do you think about all the poor children across
Speaker 3: the country that are now under.
Speaker 4: The rule of Donald Trump?
Speaker 3: They're terrified, and I'm like, oh, come on, you guys.
Speaker 3: And then you know, the list went on and on,
Speaker 3: all the favorite liberal talking points.
Speaker 5: I always loved the cartoonish way that so many Brits
Speaker 5: view us through this lens. And even Pierce Morgan, who's
Speaker 5: gotten a lot better, I will say you still, you know,
Speaker 5: very vehemently disagree with him on the gun issue and
Speaker 5: Second Amendment rights.
Speaker 4: However, they just they don't get it.
Speaker 5: They don't understand really our culture, I don't think and
Speaker 5: really what's going on here and how much by and large, Heidie,
Speaker 5: I would say a majority, not everybody, but even people
Speaker 5: that don't are not predisposed to like Donald Trump, might
Speaker 5: not have voted for him. His approval ratings are higher
Speaker 5: than they've ever been. They're like in the mid fifties
Speaker 5: right now, and that's saying something compared to where he's
Speaker 5: been his first four years in office. Over the last
Speaker 5: four years out of office, I think people are willing
Speaker 5: to give him a chance.
Speaker 2: By and large, I agree.
Speaker 3: And after the break, I want to talk to you
Speaker 3: about Colorado and how Colorado feels.
Speaker 2: About that, and specifically.
Speaker 3: About a certain meltdown that our secretary of State had
Speaker 3: yesterday and how that plays into this whole conversation about
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six and the school board elections this year.
Speaker 3: So let's take a break. This is Heidi Ganal filling
Speaker 3: in for dan Ca Applas. Will be right back to
Speaker 3: talk more about this exciting week.
Speaker 4: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 6: It is extraordinary that the outgating president had to partner
Speaker 6: all those members of his own family and other people
Speaker 6: and you know, the head of the you know, the
Speaker 6: c d C, Anthony Fauci, was trying to deal with COVID.
Speaker 6: I mean, that does tell you something about what they're
Speaker 6: afraid of Donald Trump will do to them.
Speaker 2: Well, to us, it tells us that somebody is guilty.
Speaker 3: So when you when you have to partner someone, that
Speaker 3: means that.
Speaker 7: The administration with Roger Stone, Paul Manifort and everyone, I
Speaker 7: mean every every administration has their pardons.
Speaker 4: And every party.
Speaker 7: Criticizes that as oh well that's an administration and Gila
Speaker 7: and it is his.
Speaker 3: Own family going out of office last time, and boy
Speaker 3: were they under attack at the same time.
Speaker 2: But I'm really hopeful.
Speaker 3: I think the speech was filled with lots of inspiring
Speaker 3: information about how we're going to turn things around. Those
Speaker 3: of us that are parents are really worried about our
Speaker 3: next generation and making sure that, you know, our kids
Speaker 3: have a secure and safe future and a prosperous one.
Speaker 3: One of my favorite moments of the event was when
Speaker 3: h Usha and Jady's little daughter had the band aids
Speaker 3: on her fingers.
Speaker 2: And was messed.
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, this is just a really
Speaker 3: neat family that's coming in and going to set the
Speaker 3: stage for.
Speaker 6: And that didn't look rather touching. But if you're the
Speaker 6: parent of a transgender child, and he has said very
Speaker 6: clearly from now in America will not to recognize anything
Speaker 6: more than two agendas, I mean you're going to be
Speaker 6: very worried on here.
Speaker 4: This is a real blow to you.
Speaker 2: I don't think they have to be worried. I don't
Speaker 2: think they have to be worried.
Speaker 3: I think fairness means fairness for everyone. Gosh right, it
Speaker 3: just goes on and on and on. It was like
Speaker 3: I was just trying to get in there to throw
Speaker 3: a few punches here and there.
Speaker 2: But it was fun.
Speaker 8: I like the.
Speaker 4: Woman with you standing next to you there.
Speaker 2: Her name's Lauren. She's like a Democrat lobbyist that they have.
Speaker 3: On every once in a while, and I'm their token
Speaker 3: Conservative that they can't figure out.
Speaker 2: They try and bring me on to dissect.
Speaker 3: Me, and like, who is this crazy American girl who's conservative?
Speaker 2: I don't understand her.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 5: And on every level, everybody that works in this field
Speaker 5: like we do, has had that moment where you're the
Speaker 5: token conservative. You know, you're the fascination, You're kind of
Speaker 5: you know, this strange alien object to them, and they
Speaker 5: want to They're curious, they want to find out more.
Speaker 4: If they're at least curious.
Speaker 3: At all, they are, they keep inviting me back.
Speaker 4: That's good, that's good.
Speaker 3: I was on election night. Guess who I was on
Speaker 3: the panel with on election night?
Speaker 4: Hmmm on that same station.
Speaker 3: Yes, the great Stormy Daniels.
Speaker 5: No way, Yes, it was. Why did you have any
Speaker 5: interactions with Oh?
Speaker 2: Yes, lots of interaction and then.
Speaker 5: Make you sandbagging, just burying the lead Heidi, it was fun.
Speaker 5: Did anything stand I'll try to find that on the
Speaker 5: internet somewhere, But did anything standa about your interactions with her?
Speaker 3: The most entertaining part was when she was talking about
Speaker 3: women's rights and how Trump was going to destroy women's rights,
Speaker 3: and I just I just shook my head, like, oh my,
Speaker 3: where do we go from here?
Speaker 5: Well, you could have just said, oh, I'm a woman
Speaker 5: and I have rights, and I'm going to have the
Speaker 5: same rights that I In fact, based on what the
Speaker 5: question you were just asked in this particular segment, I
Speaker 5: feel as a woman, I will have more rights to
Speaker 5: my own sports and spaces.
Speaker 2: Bingo.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 2: I wish I could have had you there.
Speaker 1: In my ear.
Speaker 5: I would have been a good coach, you know, like
Speaker 5: Mick in the corner for Rocky and you be like,
Speaker 5: cut me right.
Speaker 4: I'm like, here you go. You can go get Stormy,
Speaker 4: go get her.
Speaker 3: No, like a little earbuddy in my ear like Kamala
Speaker 3: had on the debate.
Speaker 4: All the earring.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we'll set that up. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: We have a caller, Dean from Oravada, who wants to
Speaker 3: talk about the Newsome Trump meeting.
Speaker 2: Hi, Dean, Welcome to the show. This is Heidi Canal.
Speaker 9: Hey, Heidi, how you doing tothing?
Speaker 2: Pretty good? How are you?
Speaker 9: I'm good. Hey, I'm glad to hear you on the
Speaker 9: pair of Ryan Ryan, Love you too.
Speaker 4: Thanks.
Speaker 9: I think Trump's gonna be quiet up the air with
Speaker 9: Newsome as far as like a little bit pac But
Speaker 9: behind closed doors, I think he's gonna chew him a
Speaker 9: new one. He's like, you let this state fall apart,
Speaker 9: you expect me to bail you out when you wanted
Speaker 9: to get rid of me. I mean he had like
Speaker 9: a fifty million dollar out thing going on to get
Speaker 9: rid of Trump.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wasn't that right in the middle of fires, Right
Speaker 3: in the middle of the fires.
Speaker 2: We're negotiating that too.
Speaker 9: I'm not gonna forget that. And guess what sanctuary state
Speaker 9: stuff do. You either comply or your funding's gonna.
Speaker 2: Be really cut back.
Speaker 9: That's all I can I guarantee behind closed doors. It's like,
Speaker 9: you comply to sanctuary status, you moved to me, you
Speaker 9: start let this before, we'll help you out. If not,
Speaker 9: you're gonna get pretty much nothing.
Speaker 2: Well, Thankstin for calling in.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if all the listeners heard today, but
Speaker 3: basically Trump said, if you want a lot of money
Speaker 3: to help California, you got to do two things.
Speaker 2: You got to let the water flow.
Speaker 3: You got to just let the water flow and stop
Speaker 3: with all this craziness about this little fish that you're
Speaker 3: keeping all the water from the fires and the ability
Speaker 3: to fight the fires.
Speaker 2: Second thing was I want voter.
Speaker 3: ID in California, and I'm going to talk a little
Speaker 3: bit about some things that I think we can do
Speaker 3: to address the elections here in Colorado. After seeing this
Speaker 3: crazy melt down with Jenna Griswold, Ryan, can you play
Speaker 3: that clip by Colorado State Center Byron Pelton asking her
Speaker 3: some questions about the password leaks.
Speaker 2: I believe it's number five.
Speaker 10: Well, Secretary of State Griswold wants to continue to say
Speaker 10: that misinformation and disinformation is harmful to the election process,
Speaker 10: and it is. But the problem is is that when
Speaker 10: she needs she eroded the public's trust by publicly saying
Speaker 10: she was not going to tell the county clerks about
Speaker 10: the password breach because she was in fear of a
Speaker 10: media storm.
Speaker 4: That is uncalled for.
Speaker 10: You can't start talking about misinformation and disinformation and talk
Speaker 10: about that aspect in one hand and then say that
Speaker 10: her elections are completely and totally unaffected from the breach.
Speaker 10: That is uncalled for. Our county clerks are the trusted,
Speaker 10: most trusted elected officials in all of our counties. They
Speaker 10: do an excellent job. This is just a really bad
Speaker 10: thing to put our county clerks a really such a
Speaker 10: bad situation to put our county clerks in, and it's
Speaker 10: just unfortunate that she.
Speaker 4: Has done that.
Speaker 10: Any kind of blame should rest solely on her on
Speaker 10: eroding the public trusts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with Center Pelton there, but I want
Speaker 3: to make a point. Last September, before this Bios password
Speaker 3: thing was even happening, I did a press conference about
Speaker 3: a deep dive I did on Douglas County elections from
Speaker 3: my race in twenty two. We spent two years working
Speaker 3: on it, and the county clerk, the Republican county clerk
Speaker 3: at the time, right after the election, blocked us from
Speaker 3: doing a recount, me and Kurt Huffman, who is running
Speaker 3: for state representatives.
Speaker 2: So we kept moving along.
Speaker 3: We kept going, and then the current county clerk was
Speaker 3: somewhat helpful and got us in to do the audit
Speaker 3: that we wanted to do after a lot of attorney
Speaker 3: fees and about a year of wrangling, and then afterwards
Speaker 3: would not meet with me and instead sparked this whole
Speaker 3: fur among other county clerks Republicans included calling me reckless
Speaker 3: for bringing up three things that I found in the audit.
Speaker 3: One was that our drop boxes weren't secure. It's kind
Speaker 3: of a joke. The four hundred drop boxes aren't monitored. Well,
Speaker 3: that all around the state. Number two, there was indeed
Speaker 3: Wi Fi access remote access in twelve counties when we
Speaker 3: were told there was absolutely not. Jenner Grizswold lied just
Speaker 3: blatantly lied about that, and the county commissioner in Douglas
Speaker 3: County did not know about it either, and the third
Speaker 3: thing was we found thirty thousand undeliverable ballots in nine
Speaker 3: counties that were delivered back to the post office that
Speaker 3: the post office and the county clerks had no record of.
Speaker 3: So there's thirty thousand ballots just laying around somewhere that
Speaker 3: no one can account for, just in nine counties. So
Speaker 3: I come out and say all this. The county clerks
Speaker 3: were not friendly to me.
Speaker 2: They didn't help me.
Speaker 3: In fact, I was really disappointed. But we can do better,
Speaker 3: and I'm going to tell you how we can do
Speaker 3: better and ask our county clerks to do better after
Speaker 3: the break, after I have my guests on Amanda Harden
Speaker 3: to talk about a really important gun bill coming up
Speaker 3: next week.
Speaker 2: Heidigan all here for Dan Kaplas. We'll see you after
Speaker 2: the break.
Speaker 4: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 3: Happy first Friday after Inauguration five days. I was saying
Speaker 3: four earlier, I wasn't county Monday, but you're right, he
Speaker 3: got a lot done Monday.
Speaker 9: Ryan.
Speaker 4: So I'm kid right in front of me a capital
Speaker 4: want arena. Do you think I should sign this? Okay,
Speaker 4: We're gonna do it.
Speaker 5: You're good at that, not as good as Sean Ferish,
Speaker 5: I always have to say that qualify.
Speaker 2: How many did you sign that day?
Speaker 4: Do you know it was like ten in each location?
Speaker 4: If not more so?
Speaker 5: He did ten kind of on site right after the
Speaker 5: inaugural address, then he signed ten more at Capital One
Speaker 5: Arena about I think, and then he went to the
Speaker 5: Oval Office.
Speaker 4: Where he signed even more.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: So I think it was in the thirties right on
Speaker 4: the first day.
Speaker 3: Well, whatever it was, it's better than all the things
Speaker 3: that Joe Biden did during his presidency.
Speaker 2: So there you go.
Speaker 3: Okay, We've got a friend of mine, Amanda Harden, who
Speaker 3: helps us at Rocky Mountain Voice down at the Capitol
Speaker 3: and keeps track of all the craziness going on there.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Amanda, Thanks Heidi.
Speaker 8: Glad to be here, and just to let y'all know,
Speaker 8: I actually stepped out from helping run a machine gun
Speaker 8: shoot y'all. May hear a little bit of firing in
Speaker 8: the background.
Speaker 2: Oh that sounds exciting, definitely, Amanda.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of shooting mausof down at the Capitol
Speaker 3: going on, and I would love to hear your take
Speaker 3: on the state of the state on gun bills or
Speaker 3: second amendment bills, especially one specifically SB twenty five three
Speaker 3: that's coming up next week. So what's going on down
Speaker 3: there around these issues.
Speaker 8: Well, I got rallity pretty fast right out of the gate.
Speaker 8: The bill dropped immediately, and is anyone that follows legislation,
Speaker 8: you know that lots of times they'll test a bill
Speaker 8: for a few years to find different ways that they
Speaker 8: can get it passed through. So this is very similar
Speaker 8: to a bill we saw come out last year. So
Speaker 8: it's already gotten dubbed the nickname the Assault Weapons Band Bill.
Speaker 8: That's not actually the title of it, Senate Bill three.
Speaker 8: It's a semi Automatic Firearms and Rapid fire Devices Band
Speaker 8: anything that's got a detachable magazine, but that's very encompassing.
Speaker 8: That covers almost all your modern firearms, pretty much any
Speaker 8: self defense firearm someone's going to carry. If they're not
Speaker 8: carrying a revolver, they're carrying a firearm that's got a
Speaker 8: detachable magazine.
Speaker 9: It's going to.
Speaker 8: Spill over into your hunting community. So this bill is
Speaker 8: very very concerning for a host of reasons. It's going
Speaker 8: to limit people's right to self defense. It's going to
Speaker 8: impact our hunting community. If Colorado parks and Wildlife are
Speaker 8: not collecting the funds they need. We know that that's
Speaker 8: going to impact their ability to have land conservation and
Speaker 8: take care of the animals and have healthy herds and
Speaker 8: have healthy lands for us. It's a very tragic bill.
Speaker 8: It's going to put a lot of shops out of business,
Speaker 8: it's going to shut down a lot of manufacturers. It's
Speaker 8: a very very terrible bill.
Speaker 2: So, Amanda, what is this actually like? It means that you.
Speaker 3: Can't own one, or you can't buy one, or do
Speaker 3: you have to give it back if you or sell
Speaker 3: it off if you have one.
Speaker 8: Right now, they're saying they're going to grandfather in. So
Speaker 8: if you already own a firearm that is going to
Speaker 8: become illegal, you can have it and keep it. You
Speaker 8: may not moving forward if this bill were to pass, purchase,
Speaker 8: manufacture or in any way bring in a new one,
Speaker 8: can even bring it in from out of state. So
Speaker 8: these guns should be grandfathered in again. As legislation is written,
Speaker 8: there's no clarity on well, if I have one, can
Speaker 8: I take it to a range and shoot it, or
Speaker 8: can I literally just own it and then it just
Speaker 8: has to live in my safe for the rest of
Speaker 8: the time I have it, so there's no clarity at
Speaker 8: all on that it's And then something really interesting about
Speaker 8: this bill is the fact fact that it was put
Speaker 8: out by Tom Sullivan. He was a big proponent of
Speaker 8: what is now known as Proposition KK. The voters voted
Speaker 8: that into law in November, and that is that excise
Speaker 8: tax on firearms, AMMO and firearm accessories. It's a six
Speaker 8: point five percent excise tax and Tom Sullivan was a
Speaker 8: giant advocate of it. It's going to collect money for
Speaker 8: victim groups for veterans. But now he has sponsored and
Speaker 8: put a bill forward that will get that very industry
Speaker 8: that he was a huge proponent of last year, saying
Speaker 8: that this is going to do good for our community
Speaker 8: to collect this thirty nine million dollars. So that's been
Speaker 8: very curious to me. Why would he sponsor a bill
Speaker 8: that is basically going to defund a program that he
Speaker 8: was so adamant about US funding just a few months ago.
Speaker 3: Well, we know they don't do anything without thinking through
Speaker 3: a long term plan. And of course their goal, I believe,
Speaker 3: is to just annihilate the Second Amendment here in Colorado
Speaker 3: and our gun rights and the hunting industry which is,
Speaker 3: you know, a very very important industry to Colorado.
Speaker 2: Amanda, I hear there's a hearing next.
Speaker 3: Tuesday at two o'clock the Senate Veterans and Military Affairs Committee,
Speaker 3: and that there's a rally before at eleven o'clock. Can
Speaker 3: you tell us a little bit more about that or
Speaker 3: how people can help push back against this.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, signing up for testimony is very, very important. I
Speaker 8: know it's those intimidating, but that is what they need
Speaker 8: to see. I spent a lot of time downe at
Speaker 8: the Capitol last session talking to legislators, talking to lobbyists
Speaker 8: and asking them, you know, why why are we not
Speaker 8: getting as much tracks as we should on the Second Amendment?
Speaker 8: For three percent of Colorado adults are firearm owners. We
Speaker 8: have a tremendous amount of firearm ownership in the state
Speaker 8: of Colorado. And overwhelmingly, what they told me was that
Speaker 8: people are not showing up. There's not enough of you
Speaker 8: showing up, and there's not enough diversity in the groups
Speaker 8: that are showing up to resonate with the legislators that
Speaker 8: want to take away your gun rights. So we need
Speaker 8: everyone to show up, either in person and testify or
Speaker 8: sign up to give remote testimony. If you're on the
Speaker 8: Western slope, if you've got a job that you can
Speaker 8: get testimony, but you can't quite be away from it
Speaker 8: all day. Online testimony is wonderful, and it is so
Speaker 8: easy to figure out what your testimony is. It's just
Speaker 8: how is this all going to impact your life? How
Speaker 8: is this all perhaps going to impact somebody you know?
Speaker 8: Maybe you know someone that's in the firearms industry. And
Speaker 8: what we haven't even really talked about yet, there's all
Speaker 8: these ancillary businesses to the firearms industry. When you go
Speaker 8: into retail stores that have firearms, they usually also have
Speaker 8: like their own line of t shirts or other things
Speaker 8: that are completely not related to firearms. Well, now we're
Speaker 8: going to hurt other businesses that are providing retail items
Speaker 8: or other services to the business is actually going to
Speaker 8: be hurt by the bill. So it's going to have
Speaker 8: a tremendous trickle down effect. So come out, show up.
Speaker 8: If you can't stay and testify, come out to the rally.
Speaker 8: The legislators look outside when there are rallies, they come
Speaker 8: outside and look, and that gets a lot of media coverage.
Speaker 8: If anyone writes, if anyone has a podcast, if anyone
Speaker 8: has a YouTube channel, if you are putting content out there,
Speaker 8: the more eyes we can get on this, the more
Speaker 8: voices we can get on this, that's going to be
Speaker 8: really important. And then always be gracious in the way
Speaker 8: you speak to the legislators when you're given testimony. Is
Speaker 8: not the time to call them names. It's not the
Speaker 8: time to belittle them. I mean, think about it. Has
Speaker 8: anyone ever won an argument with you because they were
Speaker 8: being nasty to you? Probably not. So we have to
Speaker 8: just be logical and make this a human problem, Make
Speaker 8: this a small business problem, make this a safety problem.
Speaker 8: The old adage of you know, it's a god given ride.
Speaker 8: It's my second Amendment, right. I absolutely do not disagree.
Speaker 8: But we need more real stories and more faces at
Speaker 8: the capitol.
Speaker 2: Well, Amanda, you're doing a great job of that.
Speaker 3: At Rocky Mountain Voice, we are covering all kinds of
Speaker 3: important issues like this. Amanda is covering our two way coverage.
Speaker 3: And you go to the website Rockymountin Voice dot com
Speaker 3: sign up for the Mountain Minute newsletter. It's all free.
Speaker 3: And thank you for all you're doing and for being
Speaker 3: a voice for all of us. Amanda, and this is
Speaker 3: Heidi Ganal for Dan Kaples. We're going to take a
Speaker 3: break and come back lots more to cover.
Speaker 4: And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2: Happy Friday, Colorado.
Speaker 3: It's Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan caplis. Very blessed
Speaker 3: and honored to be with you today, Ryan. After a
Speaker 3: fun week at the inauguration for both of us in DC, are.
Speaker 2: You recovered yet?
Speaker 4: You know that was a whirlwind trip for me.
Speaker 5: I left on Sunday and I had just enough time
Speaker 5: to kind of get settled in. But the weather was
Speaker 5: so bad on that day, and I was hearing about
Speaker 5: it from those that had gathered on that day. I
Speaker 5: didn't I got into an uber and I stayed up
Speaker 5: in Germantown, Maryland. There was freezing rain, pellets coming downs,
Speaker 5: cars spun out, accidents, cops all over the highway. So
Speaker 5: I decided, once I got into my hotel, I'm going
Speaker 5: to pack it in. I'm going to gear up for
Speaker 5: the wait. On Monday morning, I went the very first
Speaker 5: uber I could get to the very first stop on
Speaker 5: the Red Line for the very first train on that
Speaker 5: Red line at five am. There were dozens of other
Speaker 5: Trump supporters on that very first train. Took that down
Speaker 5: on that Monday to five twenty am and got in line,
Speaker 5: waited for four hours, four hours, and then finally got
Speaker 5: into Capitol One Arena, and I stayed there all day.
Speaker 5: I was communicating with you, with John Fabricatory, with George Brockler.
Speaker 5: Now George got into some of the nice inaugural balls.
Speaker 5: I might you got into kind of the really good
Speaker 5: pregame ones. But like you, I was finding it was
Speaker 5: very nebulous the information.
Speaker 4: Who do you go to? How do you get the tickets?
Speaker 4: I don't want to pay a thousand dollars, so no thanks.
Speaker 5: You know, all these things are coming up ended up,
Speaker 5: just meeting at the bottom line bar, kind of a
Speaker 5: hole in the wall, dive bar.
Speaker 4: Hard to find a DC, but they've got one.
Speaker 5: With John fabricatry who watched the college football National Championship
Speaker 5: game that night Monday night.
Speaker 2: Oh that's right. I can't believe that.
Speaker 5: Was the same night as An and Kelly went off
Speaker 5: on this top And she's right. What were the NCAA
Speaker 5: higher ups thinking putting the college football National title game
Speaker 5: on the same night as Inauguration Day?
Speaker 4: Ridiculous?
Speaker 3: They probably weren't thinking don't do that again. I know
Speaker 3: that was rude because I would like to have watched bulls,
Speaker 3: but it was hard to go back and forth. So Ryan,
Speaker 3: before the break, before we had a man on, I
Speaker 3: was mentioning about the county clerks and the difficulty I
Speaker 3: had with them getting any support in the issues I
Speaker 3: was trying to solve before the election. And some of
Speaker 3: them are amazing people, people people I call friends, but
Speaker 3: I think they're a little hoodwinked by Matt Crane, who's
Speaker 3: the head of the clerk's association.
Speaker 2: Jenna Griswold and her.
Speaker 3: Team, and they think everything's great, everything's wonderful, and it's
Speaker 3: not wonderful on our elections in Colorado, as evidenced by
Speaker 3: what happened yesterday with Jenna melting down and running out
Speaker 3: of the room with her private security. I guess because
Speaker 3: she didn't want to answer questions. She wants to run
Speaker 3: for governor. That's crazy that she thinks she doesn't have
Speaker 3: to answer questions about this heiighty.
Speaker 5: She's a twelve year old. I don't know how old
Speaker 5: she is actually, but how she acts. Remember, we were
Speaker 5: making fun of the interviews she did with Comrade Kyle
Speaker 5: on nine.
Speaker 4: News, and she kept silent.
Speaker 5: Kyle cod not even fair like Napoleon dynamiters, Oh my god,
Speaker 5: why would you ask that?
Speaker 4: That's literally how she comes across.
Speaker 5: So this behavior that we witnessed here that you're describing
Speaker 5: surprises me zero percent.
Speaker 4: That she had to run and hide and get her
Speaker 4: binky or lanky.
Speaker 2: Do you think she has a shot at winning the
Speaker 2: Dummer that nomination?
Speaker 5: Absolutely not. And maybe that's reassuring to Phil Wiser, who's
Speaker 5: in the race. But no, she has no chance of
Speaker 5: winning the nomination.
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think Phil Wiser does either.
Speaker 4: I don't no.
Speaker 3: I think Joan of Goose is going to come in
Speaker 3: and sweep the slight clean.
Speaker 2: I do think Mike Johnson may still be a player.
Speaker 4: We'll run want to.
Speaker 3: Do it, But my gosh, he's made a mess out
Speaker 3: of Denver. I mean, I know that they've got plenty
Speaker 3: of money to shine him up and make him look
Speaker 3: all pretty and good like things are great. So maybe
Speaker 3: he's a player. But you know, Jonah Goose was a
Speaker 3: regent to you. I know him a little bit. He's
Speaker 3: always been very kind to me, and he does a
Speaker 3: good job from his perspective like from the Democrat perspective. So,
Speaker 3: you know, I think he's the guy to watch.
Speaker 5: I've been uniformly impressed with him, and you set down
Speaker 5: a side policy and all the things that we obviously
Speaker 5: disagree with him on. But whenever I see I don't
Speaker 5: think he's interviewed enough. I think the Democrats would do
Speaker 5: themselves a favor by having him be more the face
Speaker 5: of the party than say, my representative. And I say that,
Speaker 5: but he is Jason Crowe, who's not. I know, he's
Speaker 5: not an impressive guy.
Speaker 2: That's all I can say.
Speaker 3: He has turned out to be such a weenie. It's
Speaker 3: just the only word I can think of.
Speaker 5: A vast disappointment, because I appreciate his service and he's
Speaker 5: an Army ranger, and you know I want to honor
Speaker 5: that service.
Speaker 4: But you're right, he is.
Speaker 5: He's such affeckless, just wimp in office.
Speaker 4: Whereas Joe Goose, like Jason Crow.
Speaker 5: I think, for one of the impeachments, was one of
Speaker 5: the presenters, one of the managers, and I thought that
Speaker 5: No Goose, even though it was a totally you know,
Speaker 5: it was a fallacy, the whole thing, but he presented
Speaker 5: his case well, he tried to rely on facts and
Speaker 5: stick to the script. When it came to that, he
Speaker 5: didn't get emotional about it. So I'm with you. If
Speaker 5: I'm watching on a debate stage and I see Jenna Griswold,
Speaker 5: Phil Wiser, Joe Nogose, Mike Johnston, I mean the goose
Speaker 5: stands head and shoulders above the other three if you're
Speaker 5: just analyzing it objectively from our perspective, I just think
Speaker 5: he's far and away of those four, the favorite.
Speaker 3: Going to have a lot of support and funding too,
Speaker 3: because he's pretty high up in Congress on the Democrat side,
Speaker 3: well thought of. He's their golden boy. So but back
Speaker 3: to the commissioners. If you guys care out there about
Speaker 3: election integrity, here's what I want you to know.
Speaker 2: What I learned the county commissioners.
Speaker 3: And I keep saying commissioners. I was talking about the clerks,
Speaker 3: But this is connected. So the county clerks are doing
Speaker 3: their best. They're going along day to day. They interact
Speaker 3: a lot with the county attorney. The county attorney guides
Speaker 3: them in a lot of ways. The county attorney is
Speaker 3: hired and fired by the county commissioners. Now, I don't
Speaker 3: know if you knew this, Ryan, and I'm pretty sure
Speaker 3: this statu is still correct.
Speaker 2: It was a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: Over fifty percent, almost sixty percent of the county commissioners
Speaker 3: in Colorado are Republican. So we actually have a majority
Speaker 3: of commissioners in Colorado that are Republican. And if they
Speaker 3: control the county attorney and they're elected by us, if
Speaker 3: the clerks won't do the right things, then let's ask
Speaker 3: the commissioners to ask them to do the right things
Speaker 3: and ask the county attorney do the right thing.
Speaker 2: What do I mean by the right things?
Speaker 3: I mean clean up our voter rolls, track the US
Speaker 3: Post Office in those undeliverable ballots, and make sure there
Speaker 3: aren't thirty thousand laying around that are wrought with the disaster,
Speaker 3: which somebody finds them in fraud. Make sure that the
Speaker 3: drop boxes, the cameras are put in the right direction,
Speaker 3: that they're live streamed. I got to give it to
Speaker 3: Douglas County. They live stream, you still can't see anything
Speaker 3: because they're too far away. And then remove all remote
Speaker 3: access from the machines. It doesn't matter if you say
Speaker 3: there's nothing going on. We don't trust the process. We
Speaker 3: don't trust the equipment. Many of us in the U
Speaker 3: that are voters out there, so just get rid of it.
Speaker 3: You don't need it. Twelve counties, maybe there's more, maybe
Speaker 3: there's not. That Matt Crane has admitted to have remote
Speaker 3: access in them. Take it out, take it out, and
Speaker 3: don't wait two years to buy new equipment. So they
Speaker 3: can do that. They can also use outside auditors. That
Speaker 3: would go against Jenna, but I want somebody to stand
Speaker 3: up and bring in someone from the outside to audit
Speaker 3: the signature verification process. So that's my rant about how
Speaker 3: to fix our elections. One thing this is Heidigan all
Speaker 3: filling in for dan CAplus will be right back after
Speaker 3: the top of the hour.