1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: So it came out today. This is like a kind 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,280 of evolving story. We're gonna see what happens with it. Bet, 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,160 Sergeant Rock is a DC film that they've been planning 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,759 to make. Oh, I gotta find out there was the 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,199 plots and offices that came out. I'll find it after 6 00:00:13,279 --> 00:00:16,000 when you're talking. But so this film was supposed to 7 00:00:16,039 --> 00:00:19,480 be shooting this summer, but now it depends who you asked. 8 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,039 There's and these are all as Tier scoopers. Some say, hey, 9 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,120 this thing's canceled, and then some people say no. This 10 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,359 has just been pushed to twenty twenty six, but obviously 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,320 a big push because. 12 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: It was supposed to be shooting in just a few months. 13 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 3: Here. 14 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,119 Speaker 1: This was directed by Luca Guardanino. Today it was revealed 15 00:00:35,119 --> 00:00:37,320 that we heard this rumor before, but Colin Farrell was 16 00:00:37,399 --> 00:00:41,640 cast in it. Mike Fast was also faster faced. How 17 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,200 do you ever say that guy's name from Challengers? 18 00:00:43,399 --> 00:00:44,799 Speaker 3: F face? I think faced? 19 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:45,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. 20 00:00:45,679 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: And then David Johnson, who was in that alien Romulus, 21 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,039 who's you know seen? I think he's a Golden Geeks 22 00:00:51,079 --> 00:00:52,679 winner actually, so I think he. 23 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 3: Went for supporting, right, I think we sounds right? 24 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,399 Speaker 2: I think that that sounds right. But yeah, so that 25 00:00:58,520 --> 00:00:59,119 was the cast. 26 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: But there's the mix of reports here where it's unclear 27 00:01:01,679 --> 00:01:03,960 why the project has been shut down. All the insiders 28 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,760 said it could be due to scheduling out conflicts, needs 29 00:01:07,799 --> 00:01:09,959 to be shooting outdoors. The insider said the project was 30 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,680 going not going away, but could be reassessed in the 31 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,680 year for the possible summer shoot in twenty twenty six, 32 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,120 which to me, I love that to even sound shady 33 00:01:18,159 --> 00:01:21,079 of like, well, they could shoot in twenty twenty six, 34 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,840 but they're gonna reassess it at the end of the year. 35 00:01:22,879 --> 00:01:24,959 It's like, well, are you shooting next year? Are you 36 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,280 reassessing if you're gonna shoot next year? That's already like 37 00:01:27,359 --> 00:01:30,319 rocky terms. And then someone said another source raised the 38 00:01:30,359 --> 00:01:34,400 possibility that Guanino has been untested in action movies and 39 00:01:34,439 --> 00:01:36,640 even though the budget was a seventy million range that's 40 00:01:37,439 --> 00:01:39,840 a paltry some for comic movies. Higher ups of way 41 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,079 or have wavered in their confident confidence in him, which 42 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,079 is true like challengers, call me by your name, some 43 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,920 other stuff like queer, like he's not directed anything of that. 44 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,120 Elk and I will try and find but it's something 45 00:01:52,159 --> 00:01:55,040 to do with like they're looking for some spear that 46 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,239 killed Jesus Christ. 47 00:01:56,239 --> 00:01:59,879 Speaker 2: It was a really weird whoa. I'll find it here, 48 00:02:00,079 --> 00:02:02,079 but obviously, Dylan. 49 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,159 Speaker 1: We start in an era where okay, James Gunn announces slate, 50 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,520 some stuff in that slate's either been like TBD or 51 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,439 it's kind of been delayed, and then this movie, which 52 00:02:11,479 --> 00:02:14,319 I will give them credit, James Gunn and DC have 53 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,639 never ever officially announced. 54 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,759 Speaker 2: They've never thrown on a slate, never thrown a date. 55 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: But they've talked about it because it leaked and scoopers 56 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,759 have got in their casting and stuff. They like to 57 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,120 not do official announcements till they're rolling and in production. 58 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,199 But this looks like a movie that I don't know. 59 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,879 It depends who you ask. I just am reading the 60 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,639 teal is that I don't know if this is gonna happen, 61 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,599 but maybe it just depends on Superman, and maybe if 62 00:02:35,599 --> 00:02:36,840 Superman's a massive hit. 63 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,479 Speaker 2: Yeah you hit the roll decks going. 64 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:39,759 Speaker 1: But what do you take from this is you know, 65 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,680 we came from an era where DC had a lot 66 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,000 of heyda announce something. Oh it's canceled, and now I 67 00:02:45,039 --> 00:02:46,919 don't know yeah, they were back in that dark times. 68 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,360 But it's definitely reminiscent of when we started Geek first 69 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,639 and what was happening with Geek with DC, and that 70 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,439 was kind of hope that wasn't gonna happen with James 71 00:02:55,439 --> 00:02:57,240 Gunn's DC, Right, that's maybe gonna be a bit more 72 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:57,919 of a tight ship. 73 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean that's I don't want to repeat 74 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,680 myself too much, broken record and all that, but that's 75 00:03:03,759 --> 00:03:05,840 kind of my repeating thing is like so much of 76 00:03:05,879 --> 00:03:08,439 the DC right now feels like vaporware until we see 77 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,199 more of this stuff, and I obviously the Superman movie 78 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:12,680 is gonna be a big testing ground for that, but 79 00:03:12,719 --> 00:03:16,479 even then, it's like, okay, if even if Superman does well, yes, 80 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,479 there's more money in WB's pockets, James Gunn's pockets, like 81 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,360 able to work on these next things. But it's like 82 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,879 the success of Superman does not mean that this movie 83 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,840 is going to be successful or the super successful. 84 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: A great DC universe does not make you know. 85 00:03:32,719 --> 00:03:35,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, like there's so many of these random freak show 86 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,000 characters that like know the general audience doesn't know about 87 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,719 and aren't just like you know, if you put Batman 88 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,759 or Superman on poster no matter what, that's gonna make 89 00:03:43,759 --> 00:03:45,319 some money, whereas that's not the case for a lot 90 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,479 of these other characters like Arget Rock, Cooster Gold and 91 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,639 Sergeant Rock and the Authority and things like this. So 92 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,120 I don't know, well, but I do think a lot 93 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,080 of it right now is gonna you know, they're so 94 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,000 close to Superman at this point if things are up 95 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,840 in the air, and like, I feel like the focus 96 00:04:00,879 --> 00:04:02,840 should be one hundred percent of making that movie perfect. 97 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,520 I'm sure James Gunn's attention is like one hundred percent 98 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,680 zooming and scoping on that. He's probably not spending any 99 00:04:08,719 --> 00:04:10,479 time to think about Sergeant Rock right now. So that's 100 00:04:10,479 --> 00:04:13,319 probably big what reason why you reassessed? And then Superman 101 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,680 comes out, it's out for a few months. He's probably 102 00:04:15,719 --> 00:04:18,800 still focused on that, promoting that, doing interviews, and like, 103 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,399 you know, that takes a few months, and I don't 104 00:04:21,439 --> 00:04:22,959 know by like okay, by the end of the year, 105 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,680 makes time makes sense for him to be like, Okay, 106 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,240 let's reassess this now. Maybe he's just so thrilled with 107 00:04:28,519 --> 00:04:30,439 directing that movie he wants to direct something else and 108 00:04:30,439 --> 00:04:33,519 he's just passionate about another thing. And this then Sergeant 109 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,680 Rock gets kicked down the ropes. Now he really wants 110 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,759 to do Booster Gole and you just never know, like 111 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,319 I don't I feel like he kind of just gotta 112 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,680 zone in on focus right now. And who knows how 113 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:44,759 much money they're being given with the saved wa we 114 00:04:44,879 --> 00:04:47,759 mentioned minecraft huge and other things kind of bombing, So 115 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,879 it's it's it's tricky, it's always shifting. 116 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,199 Speaker 1: Here was the official plot of the movie. The film 117 00:04:54,199 --> 00:04:56,600 would have falled. Sergeant Rock is team trying to find 118 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,000 the Spear of Destiny, the spear used to stab Jesus 119 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,399 shooting his crucifixion before the Nazis could find it, which 120 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,959 you know what, like that sounds very Indiana Jones like, 121 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,199 and that's right at my alley. Yeah, obviously this is 122 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,240 radar and would be like a bit. 123 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 2: More out there. 124 00:05:12,959 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: But I was like, oh, I because at first I 125 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,480 was like, I don't know if I need this. Hearing 126 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,560 that plums like, Okay, that sounds fun and wacky. But 127 00:05:18,639 --> 00:05:21,439 I'm I'm of two minds of like both ways, right, 128 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,360 because I'm of a mind of yeah, that is a 129 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,680 good thing about I think what James Gunn is doing 130 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,399 with his universe so far that he said this before, like, hey, 131 00:05:30,399 --> 00:05:32,759 if a script's not ready, we're not gonna shoot. Like 132 00:05:32,759 --> 00:05:35,399 we still hear rumors just currently from Scoopers of like 133 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,279 the Avengers see our doomsday script is like not even 134 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,199 done and they're starting to film because they're still locking 135 00:05:40,199 --> 00:05:42,639 down deals. Now Iron Man was the same thing. Their 136 00:05:42,639 --> 00:05:44,800 script wasn't done they started shooting. But I like that 137 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,160 approach of guns saying, hey, if this is ready to go, 138 00:05:47,319 --> 00:05:51,480 let's just like before we get on the wagon, let's 139 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,160 make sure all the wheels can at least work right, 140 00:05:53,199 --> 00:05:55,519 because you don't want a solo situation where it's like 141 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,399 you pivot halfway through or you change just so Like, 142 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,439 I like that idea and the same thing, it's like 143 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,720 he has said that of course he wants us to 144 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,680 be connected, but he doesn't want it to feel like homework. 145 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,199 We'll see what happens. But that is the benefit where 146 00:06:08,199 --> 00:06:09,839 he goes, hey, let's say Sargean Rock literally is just 147 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,639 a one off. You could be a DC fan or 148 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,040 non watch it. That's a good kind of relief, Like, yeah, 149 00:06:15,079 --> 00:06:16,800 just delay it. If they feel like, let's say this 150 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,000 is a legitimate they all have agreed we're gonna make 151 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,360 this movie, but it's just not working with schedules, with 152 00:06:22,639 --> 00:06:23,079 the set. 153 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, this slate does not have to shift at all 154 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,759 with that. Yeah, you can just drop that anywhere you 155 00:06:26,759 --> 00:06:27,600 want on the timeline. 156 00:06:27,639 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 2: And like you said, this isn't a Superman Batman where 157 00:06:29,759 --> 00:06:30,040 it's not. 158 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,639 Speaker 1: That's why whatever it may be with like obviously there's 159 00:06:33,639 --> 00:06:35,360 been a lot more rumors about Matt Reeves and like 160 00:06:35,439 --> 00:06:37,399 certain health things and stuff. But that's where that movie 161 00:06:37,439 --> 00:06:40,560 gets so much traction because that's Batman. Right in a 162 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,879 couple of months, there's not gonna be this fever of man. 163 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,319 Where is Sergeant Rock? Why have they not updated? It's like, okay, cool, 164 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,800 they're making that. So that's like the pro side of 165 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,959 me of hey, this means not whatever reason it's not working, 166 00:06:52,319 --> 00:06:54,920 let's just kick it and we'll come back to it 167 00:06:54,959 --> 00:06:56,560 next year and if it works great, and that that 168 00:06:56,639 --> 00:06:59,279 to me is fantastic. The bad side is like, yeah, 169 00:06:59,439 --> 00:07:02,120 is it? Just is it? 170 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:02,399 Speaker 2: Is it? 171 00:07:02,759 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: They have this whole idea and it's like, you know what, 172 00:07:05,439 --> 00:07:08,120 we this was a bad idea. Let's not actually do 173 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,160 this movie now. I still think that's a good idea 174 00:07:10,199 --> 00:07:12,680 to pull the ripcord before you start production. But they 175 00:07:12,759 --> 00:07:15,160 still paid people to write those scripts. They still paid 176 00:07:15,279 --> 00:07:18,800 Luca to you know, like for meetings everything. They still 177 00:07:18,879 --> 00:07:21,839 talk to talent. And that's where it's like, is that 178 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,800 a DC Studio saying where they're feeling unconfident? 179 00:07:24,959 --> 00:07:25,879 Speaker 2: Is that a warmbo sing? 180 00:07:25,879 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: It's like the same thing, right that report of oh 181 00:07:28,279 --> 00:07:31,519 some sort of said they were unconfident about Luca directing. 182 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,439 Speaker 2: The size of a movie. Who is that? 183 00:07:33,639 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: Is that Gun and his team or is that Warner Brothers, 184 00:07:36,759 --> 00:07:38,800 Because then if it's Warner Brothers, that's a bigger problem 185 00:07:38,839 --> 00:07:40,600 because one off, James Gun's all gung ho. 186 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:41,839 Speaker 2: No pun intended on this. 187 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,079 Speaker 1: But the Warner Brothers high ups is like, you know what, 188 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,839 we know you're the president of DC Studios, but we'd really. 189 00:07:47,639 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: Like you not to make this movie. Actually, like we're 190 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:50,079 not calling. 191 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: And that's where it's like, well, then you're not even 192 00:07:51,759 --> 00:07:53,639 DC Studios at that point, you're just like the same 193 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,639 as before. We're like entitle, yeah, I run DC, but 194 00:07:57,079 --> 00:08:00,240 not really if you have like whoever it is fucking 195 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,240 Zaslov or somebody being like, no, don't make this movie. 196 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: So that's where it's like that. 197 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 3: If you don't have Zaslov feeding you budget, what are 198 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:07,199 you gonna do? 199 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right. So there's everything. 200 00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: There's like pros and cons with it and I and 201 00:08:12,439 --> 00:08:15,120 the same thing too. The pro of hey, seventy million, 202 00:08:15,199 --> 00:08:18,680 that's great for a superhero project. That's like, I respect 203 00:08:18,759 --> 00:08:21,839 that he's trying to do something different, get someone like 204 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,720 Luca's very talented. And if that was a predicted budget 205 00:08:24,759 --> 00:08:29,600 of seventy that's great, much more success rate possible. But 206 00:08:29,639 --> 00:08:31,000 like you just talked about it, and I just thought 207 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,159 about Mickey seventeen that had a you know, high budget 208 00:08:35,159 --> 00:08:36,679 for Bong gen Hole. But if you were to compare 209 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,720 to comic movies a lower budget and that you know, 210 00:08:39,879 --> 00:08:42,039 was considered like a lost some money, right, So to me, 211 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,799 even at seventy million, I might be able to look 212 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,600 you in the face and like, like I would hate 213 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,639 to have to side with David Zaslov forever, but I 214 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,960 could be like, I don't know if Sergeant Rock is 215 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,360 the play here, because I think the comic genre is 216 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,440 already h if enough, I know people would say, oh, 217 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,279 they might market it as not a comic movie. I 218 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,919 just like, what's the last war movie that was like 219 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,200 a huge box office blow up, you know, and even 220 00:09:08,279 --> 00:09:09,159 Anya Jones. 221 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 3: Jones definitely did not fulfill that Oh. 222 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,639 Speaker 2: My god, something something happened in my throat. 223 00:09:16,799 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: But as what I mean of like that, it's a 224 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,360 great idea to go, Okay, we're gonna keep this low budget, 225 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,159 but even at seventy million, it could be a flat 226 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,919 for them, right, So it has, it has. Yeah, it's 227 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,080 always been a weird one for me. I Like I said, 228 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,240 I like that plot, but I just I'm also got 229 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,159 it's not too much into war movies, but this sounded 230 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:33,200 less like a war movie. 231 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,519 Speaker 2: So we'll see. But to me, if it's you know, 232 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:36,519 a GV guy. 233 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,399 Speaker 1: In my head, I've won of the lotteries this gonna happen. 234 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,559 If I were to pizza about this, I don't think 235 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,120 this movie happens. I think this is even if Superman's 236 00:09:44,159 --> 00:09:47,960 a hit, can I feel like then so might argument argue. 237 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 2: Of why are we gonna make a Sergeant Rock movie? 238 00:09:51,759 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: Like I'd rather just put that seventy million towards Superman 239 00:09:54,919 --> 00:09:58,440 two or whatever the next Batman is or whoever the 240 00:09:58,440 --> 00:09:59,840 next Wonder Woman is, you know, Like. 241 00:10:00,039 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that like if if he 242 00:10:02,639 --> 00:10:04,200 is supposed to be like a one off character, and yeah, 243 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:05,919 maybe it starts out that way and then once you've 244 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,200 introduced him, maybe then he crosses over with someone. But 245 00:10:08,279 --> 00:10:11,159 like you probably want to focus early on on like 246 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,519 the brands that people associate with DC and are gonna 247 00:10:14,799 --> 00:10:17,879 rise that like stock in DC and the interest there, 248 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,360 and even not even if it's like crossover stuff, but 249 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,320 just like the people that, like I would not we've 250 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,279 we've talked about this movie a lot, like a couple 251 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,080 months from I'll probably forget that Sergeant Rock is a 252 00:10:27,159 --> 00:10:29,600 DC thing at all, right, because it just like even 253 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,279 that plot you gave me does not sound like DC whatsoever. 254 00:10:32,399 --> 00:10:35,200 So I feel like their money is better spent right now, 255 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,200 like really reinforcing that strong foundation instead of doing like 256 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,279 the weird stuff like do that later on when you're 257 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,360 established and you have like a steady, uh stream of 258 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,240 cash Like that seems like a little bit risky to 259 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:47,600 do that so early on, And I know there's other 260 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,000 things coming out before then and now, but I think 261 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,759 it's a great idea to kick that down the road 262 00:10:51,759 --> 00:10:52,200 a little bit. 263 00:10:52,519 --> 00:10:54,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, and even then, in these reports, it was it 264 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,240 came out that Clay Face is like still on track 265 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,000 to shoot as right now, of course, right, but like 266 00:10:59,039 --> 00:11:01,159 as right now, it's on track to shoot October first. 267 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,879 That that's start Todd And that's what it's like. I 268 00:11:03,919 --> 00:11:06,039 still know how I feel about a clay Face movie. 269 00:11:06,039 --> 00:11:08,120 But if you're sitting down and be like, hey, we're 270 00:11:08,159 --> 00:11:11,399 gonna make clay Face same thing, lower budget, it's gonna 271 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,279 be a horror film, which I think has a better 272 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,240 strike zone. Sounds like it's gonna be similar to the 273 00:11:16,279 --> 00:11:20,120 substance in the sense of like it's a bad comparison 274 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,720 because the clay Face story from the Batman handmade series 275 00:11:22,799 --> 00:11:24,720 is literally the substance for the substance, but just that 276 00:11:24,759 --> 00:11:27,440 idea to pitch it to people. And then even then 277 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,960 it's a Batman adjacent character. Right, you can use Gotham, 278 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,639 you can use a bat signal. 279 00:11:32,639 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: Or Sergeant Rock like the yeah now so yeah, like 280 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,200 like Sergeant Rock, of course you could. 281 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: It's like maybe something DC related, but but with something 282 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:44,919 with clay Face, Like I feel like that's. 283 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 2: Your your better bet, right, and uh, you know what 284 00:11:47,879 --> 00:11:48,279 we'll see. 285 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: Like I said, it's I'm so curious for both Marvel 286 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,159 and DC. I'm so curious on Fantastic Four, and I'm 287 00:11:54,159 --> 00:11:58,759 so curious on Superman because I think both the company's trajectories. 288 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: Change a lot after those two moves. 289 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: He's better or worse, because even if they got Avengers 290 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,440 coming out from Marvel, it's like if F four underperforms, 291 00:12:06,919 --> 00:12:08,639 that I feel like is a blow because I feel. 292 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:09,159 Speaker 2: Like they're looking at it. 293 00:12:09,159 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, this is a big temple for us 294 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,840 the next decade, right, And if it comes out and 295 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,759 it's like very lackluster money wise. 296 00:12:14,919 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 2: Same thing as Superman. 297 00:12:15,799 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: If this is the kick off of the universe and 298 00:12:17,399 --> 00:12:19,960 it's lackluster, it's like, well, what do we do from here? 299 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 3: Don't don't forget Creature command though, I mean you can 300 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,440 come on. That's kicking off the universe. 301 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: I never finished it, so I always so yeah, it's 302 00:12:27,159 --> 00:12:27,600 not bad. 303 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: I just didn't. I I wasn't gripped. I was likely 304 00:12:31,159 --> 00:12:32,919 with Flea Bag it was. It wasn't it wasn't gripped 305 00:12:32,919 --> 00:12:33,600 for me to come back. 306 00:12:33,639 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 3: I will finish it though, maybe you'll come back. 307 00:12:35,279 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: Yeah season two though, yeah, fourth breaks crazy, I'll finish 308 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,840 for Superman and hey, Stargy Rock he was in that 309 00:12:41,279 --> 00:12:44,600 Creature Commando, soy they yeah, like I think they Yeah, 310 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,440 they were trying. I think they planned too, and maybe 311 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,279 they still planned to again. Maybe maybe this is all 312 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,960 just a cart before the horror situation. Superman comes out 313 00:12:53,039 --> 00:12:54,840 kills it and they're like, yeah, go make your Sergeant 314 00:12:54,919 --> 00:12:57,080 Rock movie, like you're you're good to go, Like all 315 00:12:57,159 --> 00:12:59,519 takes his one win and maybe his as off is like, yeah, 316 00:12:59,799 --> 00:13:02,120 J gonna trust you with whatever you want to do 317 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,840 and until you have a massive bomb, the floor is yours. 318 00:13:04,879 --> 00:13:06,639 So and I hope because I like this stuff, even 319 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,919 if I don't love Superman, I would like it to 320 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,440 be successful because I don't want another decade of DC 321 00:13:12,639 --> 00:13:13,919 just on their ass be and memes. 322 00:13:13,919 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: You know, I can grow with this stuff. And it's just. 323 00:13:16,399 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: Like wrestling or sports, Like if DC is good or 324 00:13:19,279 --> 00:13:21,840 killing it, that'll have to make Marvel be good and 325 00:13:21,919 --> 00:13:24,559 kill it because if it's just a monopoly and oh 326 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,399 Marvel's the top brand, very easy for them to phone 327 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:28,960 it in and. 328 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:29,879 Speaker 2: Not make good choices. 329 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: Right, But if you get to a situation where you 330 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,480 start to have people talk, oh yeah, DC's the new 331 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,559 king of the block, I think that motivates people like 332 00:13:37,639 --> 00:13:40,559 Figy and everybody like hey, we gotta you know, we 333 00:13:40,639 --> 00:13:42,240 gotta change that narrative a little bit, like what do 334 00:13:42,279 --> 00:13:43,440 we what we got cooking? 335 00:13:43,519 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 2: You know, let's let George Miller do that Thor movie. 336 00:13:45,919 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: You know, So do you do you think what we 337 00:13:48,159 --> 00:13:54,519 will ever get? Live action? Justice League versus Avengers ever? 338 00:13:54,879 --> 00:13:58,480 Yea like Marvel DC, Like Marvel and DC both in 339 00:13:58,519 --> 00:14:03,120 the dumps, numbers garbage. Yes, they hit that red button crossover. 340 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if you and I 341 00:14:06,039 --> 00:14:08,080 are alive for it, but I think it happens. 342 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,639 Speaker 3: Oh really, Okay, Yeah, I think I'm alive for it, 343 00:14:11,159 --> 00:14:12,279 you hope. So I don't know. 344 00:14:13,639 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the. 345 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 3: Tonight definitely not Yeah, Taylor, he'll be alive and well 346 00:14:19,639 --> 00:14:21,600 drinking that rock water, that Sergeant rock water. 347 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah, but no, I think will happen. 348 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: I've always pitched that if that's what will happen is 349 00:14:26,519 --> 00:14:29,039 when the superhero genre is like dead dead and they 350 00:14:29,039 --> 00:14:30,480 try to revitalize, what can they do? 351 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,919 Speaker 2: Well, let's get together, because. 352 00:14:32,759 --> 00:14:35,279 Speaker 1: It's happened for like Sony, Like I know it's for 353 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,679 a Marvel ip but still Sony and Disney had to 354 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,759 sit down and work together share a character, right, like 355 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,360 it's the same situation. You guys sit down and work 356 00:14:43,399 --> 00:14:47,039 together and share characters and share money and what whatnot, and. 357 00:14:47,679 --> 00:14:49,759 Speaker 2: You know, kem Fight and James Gunn. That could be 358 00:14:49,799 --> 00:14:51,399 the chance. But I think I think that's. 359 00:14:51,279 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 3: I feel like we should bread and butter that like, 360 00:14:52,759 --> 00:14:53,559 what would that look like? 361 00:14:54,559 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: Oh man, I'd be down. That'd be a good time. 362 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,159 Speaker 1: Maybe july'd be good, bretn beer, because we'll have that 363 00:14:58,159 --> 00:14:59,960 F four and Superman coming out, so we can kind 364 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:02,440 of time with the hype of those two movies. But 365 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:08,279 I think at least minimum thirty years though, that's what. 366 00:15:08,279 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 3: I think that I could see. 367 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because you gotta because you gotta help. Because 368 00:15:12,919 --> 00:15:13,440 here's the thing. 369 00:15:13,519 --> 00:15:16,159 Speaker 1: If SUPERMANO is bad, I do think there is a 370 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:19,759 universe where either Warner better selles DC or unfortunately it's 371 00:15:19,799 --> 00:15:21,679 like a video game thing where they start to rent 372 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,559 out these characters to multiple studios. 373 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,679 Speaker 2: And if the DC universe never. 374 00:15:25,559 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: Works, because then the mainstream just won't even care about 375 00:15:28,679 --> 00:15:30,480 Justice League, that won't mean anything to him because. 376 00:15:30,279 --> 00:15:32,399 Speaker 3: They never had any Batman go like public domain soon 377 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:33,360 or something weird like that. 378 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,799 Speaker 1: Just the first year of issues, just the first So 379 00:15:36,799 --> 00:15:38,600 there's certain things you can do and can't do. 380 00:15:38,759 --> 00:15:41,159 Speaker 2: Like you can't even use the Alfred character because he 381 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,360 wasn't around in there. Technically, Batman in the face. 382 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,039 Speaker 3: You could do a character named Wilfred who has a 383 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:46,679 similar role. 384 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: You could. 385 00:15:47,639 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: And just because I've been looking into it for no 386 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,840 particular reason studying it, you Batman set in New York 387 00:15:54,039 --> 00:15:56,039 in the first two years, it's not even Gotham, so 388 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,240 you can't say Gotham. 389 00:15:57,519 --> 00:15:59,279 Speaker 2: So there's certain things you can and can't do. 390 00:15:59,399 --> 00:16:01,519 Speaker 1: Same thing as like the first year it's in public domain, 391 00:16:01,559 --> 00:16:03,919 you can't use Joker, but in the second year you 392 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,039 can use Joker because he goes. 393 00:16:05,879 --> 00:16:07,679 Speaker 3: On he's the best villain from year one. 394 00:16:08,519 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: Oh, it's tough. 395 00:16:09,559 --> 00:16:12,799 Speaker 1: I have extensive notes for like I said, no reason whatsoever. 396 00:16:12,919 --> 00:16:15,639 Speaker 3: But hang on, I go Sergeant Rock is our best villain. 397 00:16:15,879 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, uh no, there's someone named doctor 398 00:16:19,279 --> 00:16:20,679 Death so very. 399 00:16:20,759 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 3: That sounds good. I'm in, so let's do it. 400 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some other people too. Oh man, I was 401 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:28,440 trying to find the surprise. 402 00:16:28,559 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 3: James Gunn hasn't I assume he has already, you know, 403 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,720 implemented a character that's one of these OG's. I feel 404 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:35,639 like he's that kind of guy. 405 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, well maybe won't give a public domain. So he's like, oh, 406 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,559 anybody can use this one now, you know. 407 00:16:40,799 --> 00:16:43,639 Speaker 3: So oh, it just doesn't make a Batman movie ever. 408 00:16:43,679 --> 00:16:47,279 Speaker 1: Again, Yeah, we're done. Yeah, but again it's it's very 409 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,120 limited the stuff they can. Like there's some sort of 410 00:16:49,159 --> 00:16:50,720 like Bigfoot creature, so. 411 00:16:51,559 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 3: Like, can you even use like the batmobile and thing? 412 00:16:53,159 --> 00:16:54,159 Is that like part of the original. 413 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: Uh it's just a car. 414 00:16:57,279 --> 00:16:59,039 Speaker 3: Okay, this sounds really bad. 415 00:16:59,159 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: Yeah it is. 416 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 3: I'm excited for the movies though that people that fans make. 417 00:17:05,839 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some fun stuff to still still do that. 418 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,400 You have the cautumetly same thing. It's only a specific 419 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,000 sort of the costume there. But uh, you know, I digress. 420 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,799 Speaker 3: Not black and yellow. He's like, you know, purple and 421 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,359 green or something weird, like he used the original Joker colors. 422 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 2: He's like, he's like blue, black and gray. 423 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: And then sometimes he's had the purple gloves, which I'm 424 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:25,839 a big fan of. 425 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I like the purple gloves. So yeah, you know, 426 00:17:29,759 --> 00:17:30,640 I'm a big fan of. 427 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: Sometimes trailers well, actually, let's take an ad break and 428 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:35,960 then we all these trailers. 429 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:41,839 Speaker 2: Last topics I'll be right back alright. So now we're back, okay.