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Speaker 4: Well, my fellow Americans, get ready for a rough ride
Speaker 4: tonight and also throughout the week, maybe two weeks, maybe
Speaker 4: a month, maybe two months, maybe three months, because the
Speaker 4: stock market is certainly responding now in Asia as if
Speaker 4: there's a crash coming of one type or another. And
Speaker 4: Jim Kramer tonight, who's right about half the time CNBC
Speaker 4: with my good friend Joe Kernin from Cincinnati, of course,
Speaker 4: is never wrong, is saying it's not time to panic.
Speaker 4: There may be circuit breakers kicking in someday this week,
Speaker 4: and I have a benchmark what has to happen for
Speaker 4: the so called quote circuit breakers to come on, in
Speaker 4: which there's time to line up the buyers and the sellers.
Speaker 4: But what we're going through now is something like a
Speaker 4: chemo patient who must have the cancer taken out. A
Speaker 4: little chemo must be done, and maybe a few weeks,
Speaker 4: but the end of the day, the patient's going to
Speaker 4: be healthy. In America will be just fine. And we
Speaker 4: hold all the cards. Whether it's Canada or Mexico, or
Speaker 4: China or the EU, we hold all the cards. We
Speaker 4: are the market in America about four percent of the
Speaker 4: population of the earth, and we are responsible for about
Speaker 4: thirty percent the world domestic product Gross domestic Product GDP.
Speaker 4: America we're the big wrestler. We are King Kong Bundy,
Speaker 4: we are Andre the Giant. We're the New York Yankees
Speaker 4: and the Los Angeles Dodgers, or we are the economy
Speaker 4: that shakes the entire world. And for a very long time,
Speaker 4: under Republicans and Democrats, we've had the illusion of quote
Speaker 4: free trade, beginning with NAFTA and then with the USMCA,
Speaker 4: which Trump did in his first two years of his
Speaker 4: last term, which he there's so many exceptions to the MCA,
Speaker 4: which is more or less free trade between Canada and
Speaker 4: the US and Mexico. You might not have had it
Speaker 4: after Trump left office. Certainly Biden gave all these exceptions
Speaker 4: to Canada and Mexico. So the USMCA that Trump negotiated
Speaker 4: in twenty seventeen twenty eighteen, here we are eight years later,
Speaker 4: didn't apply anymore. Let me give you some facts and information,
Speaker 4: if I may. The US grows domestic product. Of course,
Speaker 4: the numbers will not be completely in until September thirty.
Speaker 4: We're on a fiscal of October first. October first, it's
Speaker 4: about thirty trillion dollars. So I'll ask you to just remember,
Speaker 4: thirty trillion dollars is the gross domestic product of the
Speaker 4: United States of America. Canada's gross domestic product is two
Speaker 4: point five trillion, and Mexico is one point five. So
Speaker 4: if we get in a squabble with Canada, we're at
Speaker 4: thirty trillion and the Ottawa government is at two point five.
Speaker 4: Who's going to win that fight? America is going to win.
Speaker 4: And if Donald Trump says to Canada, guess what you
Speaker 4: make two million vehicles in Canada and shipping to this country,
Speaker 4: and I want those cars made right here the UAW
Speaker 4: by the way, and teamsters are one ud percent, working
Speaker 4: men and women one hundred percent. With Donald Trump, we're
Speaker 4: gonna win with Mexico, and Shinebaum the new president of Mexico.
Speaker 4: And now someone named Shinebaum became the president of Mexico
Speaker 4: is another story. She beat someone named Lopez, which I
Speaker 4: don't understand. She must be a spectacular politician. The Mexican
Speaker 4: GDP is about one point five trillion. America has thirty trillion,
Speaker 4: not even close. They are about five percent of our
Speaker 4: economy or the giant. We can tell them what's going
Speaker 4: to happen and we can make it occur. We can
Speaker 4: tell Canada what's going to happen and make it occur Canada.
Speaker 4: If you take Canada and Mexico together, they're about four
Speaker 4: trillion compared to thirty trillion, so they're about fifteen percent
Speaker 4: together of the American economy. Now, if you would include
Speaker 4: let's say you're thinking tonight, let's say, well, you're going
Speaker 4: to have somehow the EU is going to hook up
Speaker 4: with India. By the way, India and Modi, the leader
Speaker 4: of India, is calling. He's called Donald Trump now three times.
Speaker 4: They've met several times previously, and sometime in the next
Speaker 4: week or two, there's going to be some deal between
Speaker 4: India and America. India is the most populoust nation on Earth.
Speaker 4: They have about one point four billion human beings, China
Speaker 4: has about one point two and India is gonna go
Speaker 4: We're gonna call.
Speaker 1: The tune with India.
Speaker 4: They have a small GDP compared to the United States
Speaker 4: of America, so there's no way you're gonna have China.
Speaker 4: It was reporting on this a few days ago that
Speaker 4: China was reaching out to South Korea and Japan to
Speaker 4: talk about a deal.
Speaker 1: Deal. Okay, that'll never happen.
Speaker 4: The South Koreans despise the Chinese, and the Japanese despise
Speaker 4: the Chinese, and the Chinese hate the South Koreans, and
Speaker 4: the Chinese hate the Japanese for historical reasons.
Speaker 1: They will never get together.
Speaker 4: But even if they did so, what we have about
Speaker 4: a trillion dollar trade deficit with China every year, which
Speaker 4: means we buy their products, they don't buy our products.
Speaker 4: The differential is plus one trillion for communists right China. Now,
Speaker 4: we could crash their economy, make their middle class go away.
Speaker 4: In fact, they have such debt problems, they have a
Speaker 4: terrible real estate difficulty, they have a thirty five percent
Speaker 4: unemployment rate. They're in terrible economic conditions. This could tip
Speaker 4: them over the edge. If it does occur, so be it.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 4: How about the European Union. The EU was created and
Speaker 4: there's twenty seven nations in the EU. The only purpose
Speaker 4: of the English, the Belgiums, the French, the Germans, the Greeks,
Speaker 4: the Irish, Denmark, Italy, Sweden, plus twenty seven more. The
Speaker 4: only reason they got together was to fight us, the
Speaker 4: United States of America. The EU gross domestic product is
Speaker 4: about seventeen trillion. These twenty seven countries add up the
Speaker 4: seventeen trillion. Well we're at thirty trillion, so you know,
Speaker 4: they're about sixty percent of our economy. And they fight
Speaker 4: with each other all the time. You know, the English
Speaker 4: don't like the French, and the French that like the Germans,
Speaker 4: and the Germans don't like the Bulgarians, and the Dutch
Speaker 4: do not like Greece and Ireland done like Italy.
Speaker 1: They fight constantly.
Speaker 4: The one thing they agree about is this, let's rape
Speaker 4: and rob economically. The United States of America not let
Speaker 4: their products.
Speaker 1: Into the EU.
Speaker 4: Well, we sell our cars and products to the United States,
Speaker 4: and for some reason, for thirty years that's been the case.
Speaker 4: You don't see Fords and might beloved Chevy Blazer. Chevy
Speaker 4: Blazer is a fabulous car. You don't see that on
Speaker 4: the roads of the autobam. You don't see it in Europe.
Speaker 4: They don't let our products to be sold there. But
Speaker 4: how many times have you seen a BMW or a
Speaker 4: Mercedes or a Fiat or some other car made in
Speaker 4: Europe the bug quite often. In other words, we buy
Speaker 4: their products, we let their products here, but our products
Speaker 4: cannot go there. Trump says, guess what that's going to
Speaker 4: stop if you want to include Russia in the mix.
Speaker 4: And much like China, I think they're nineteen trillion of GDP,
Speaker 4: which is about one third lessons is fictitious anyway, No
Speaker 4: one trust the numbers out of China. They're much larger
Speaker 4: than we think. Their problems are intractable. Russia has a
Speaker 4: GDP of about two trillion dollars a year compared to
Speaker 4: our thirty We're about fifteen times the size of Russia.
Speaker 4: You put all this together, we hold all the cards,
Speaker 4: and for the first time in my lifetime, we have
Speaker 4: an America first president that says these rules have got
Speaker 4: to change. There's going to be some minor difficulties for
Speaker 4: a few months, but within a year or two, We're
Speaker 4: going to have trillions of dollars in new investment inside
Speaker 4: of America. Our products will be produced and sold all
Speaker 4: over the world or else those products don't come into
Speaker 4: this country. Very simple in these countries, whether it's the
Speaker 4: EU or China or Mexico or Canada, cannot stand it.
Speaker 4: I would point out for those who think, I look
Speaker 4: at the futures market, let me scroll up here just
Speaker 4: a little bit. I'll give you the numbers as I speak. Well,
Speaker 4: there it is. The dal Jones as I speak, was
Speaker 4: down about fifteen hundred points. Now it's down seven hundred
Speaker 4: and ninety nine points, say eight hundred points. It's been
Speaker 4: cut in half. S and P futures are down two
Speaker 4: point four percent. Nasdaq is down three percent. Oil is
Speaker 4: under sixty dollars a barrel, and uh which it well,
Speaker 4: not bad, but it's gonna get worse. Every expert I said,
Speaker 4: until this matter resolves itself, it's going to be a problem.
Speaker 1: When will it resolve itself? We'll let me give you
Speaker 1: a couple couple tips. Number one.
Speaker 4: A couple of days ago, Communist red China, the government
Speaker 4: Hijao Ping issued a thirty four percent across the board
Speaker 4: tariff on American products coming into into China. Now, we
Speaker 4: don't sell very many products in China. The main product
Speaker 4: we sell there is soybeans, So we'll sell soybeans then
Speaker 4: to India or some other country. Also, I d that
Speaker 4: Donald Trump and when I watched this morning Howard Lutnik
Speaker 4: do an interview on CBS Morning with Margaret Brennan, I
Speaker 4: also watched the President on air on Air Force One
Speaker 4: about three hours ago, speaking from his cabin to a
Speaker 4: bunch of reporters. No one's panicking in the federal and
Speaker 4: the federal government, in fact, most saying this is required,
Speaker 4: it's necessary, and at the end of the day, we're
Speaker 4: gonna win. Of course we're gonna win. And I point
Speaker 4: out with two other things falls in our system. We're
Speaker 4: not perfect. That whether it's a communist Red China or
Speaker 4: a Moss terrorist. Their attitude is if it takes a
Speaker 4: thousand years, we'll spend the time and we will win.
Speaker 4: We will win a thousand years. When it comes to America,
Speaker 4: we have the midterms coming up in about nineteen months.
Speaker 4: They have a viewpoint that we're going to take a
Speaker 4: long time. There'll be no protest by the way in China,
Speaker 4: there'll be no idiotic kmas sympathizes running around with multi
Speaker 4: colored hair, never flying the American flag, by the way,
Speaker 4: acting as if they're fools, many of whom are foreign
Speaker 4: students paid for by left wing advocacy groups and also
Speaker 4: Iran that we have an horizon of the next mid term,
Speaker 4: of the next presidential China says, if it takes a
Speaker 4: thousand years, we're going to win. And I would not
Speaker 4: be surprised if China is bankrolling some of the protests
Speaker 4: in this country. But one guy you're not going to
Speaker 4: move with protests or lawsuits is guess what Donald John
Speaker 4: Trump's got the coyones of a brass bowl. He is
Speaker 4: not going to change his viewpoint because of a lawsuit
Speaker 4: or because the Chinese don't like it, or NBC News
Speaker 4: MSNBC Rachel Maddow don't like what's going on. It's going
Speaker 4: to take some time. Do you have the patience to
Speaker 4: accept the idea that the reformation of world trade must
Speaker 4: occur incrementally? The cancer cells of non free trade its
Speaker 4: course throughout the body politic. Many of our organs are hurting,
Speaker 4: our bones are being shaken, and here comes to chemo.
Speaker 4: Here comes the radiation, and Donald Trump is chemo. Donald
Speaker 4: Trump is the radiation. To get this thing back on track.
Speaker 4: We cannot long survive if communists read China as a
Speaker 4: trillion dollar trade deficit with America taking jobs. Their next
Speaker 4: order of business is to crash bowing. China is building
Speaker 4: a world class airline fleet to sell to crash boning
Speaker 4: Boeing and some of the stuff they've done Boeing Aeronautical
Speaker 4: maybe hurts themselves a lot, but they'll pick out an
Speaker 4: industry like steel, flood the market with tons, millions of
Speaker 4: tons of cheap steel, crash American steel workers, and then
Speaker 4: take over the entire industry in this country and then
Speaker 4: check up the price. Their next vision was going to
Speaker 4: be automobiles, building these EV plants all over Mexico to
Speaker 4: ship into America cars at half the price of our
Speaker 4: evs that many people want to buy, or hybrids and
Speaker 4: crash the auto market. They'll pick out an industry and say,
Speaker 4: you know what, We're going to flood American market with
Speaker 4: our products. It's going to be government subsidized. We will
Speaker 4: pay for it, and then once we destroy industries in America,
Speaker 4: we will jack up the price and put America out
Speaker 4: of business. That is the plan of Jhijauping and others.
Speaker 4: If it takes one thousand years, or one hundred years
Speaker 4: or ten years, we will stay the course. We will
Speaker 4: win in America with our media and with the Democratic Party,
Speaker 4: and with a short term horizon. He's banking on us
Speaker 4: collapsing and getting rid of Donald Trump's philosophies in eighteen months,
Speaker 4: because if a king Jefferies takes over the House of
Speaker 4: Representatives in eighteen months, with the investigations and the more
Speaker 4: impeachments of Donald Trump Trump and all the other stuff
Speaker 4: that's going to happen, China is going to win. Do
Speaker 4: you have the guts the determination to stick with Donald
Speaker 4: Trump or will you sit down, lie down with Jijao
Speaker 4: Ping and the forces of evil that want the tariffs
Speaker 4: the way they were, not the tariffs they're going to be.
Speaker 4: And one last stop before I turned calls over to you.
Speaker 4: We have four lines open right now eight sixty six
Speaker 4: six four seven seven three three seven. When will the
Speaker 4: Canadian dispute take care of itself? Number one, Canada has
Speaker 4: a GDP of two point five and we have thirty trillion,
Speaker 4: so we have about a ninety two percent advantage over Canada.
Speaker 4: But the presidential elections for their legislative government in Canada
Speaker 4: is happening in about a month, and so right now
Speaker 4: the leader of the so called opposition in Canada is
Speaker 4: being motivated not to settle this case until after the
Speaker 4: elections because he cannot appear to be an individual his
Speaker 4: name is Mark Kearney, Prime Minister of Canada, that he's
Speaker 4: collapsing or agreeing with Donald Trump. The Canadians are mad
Speaker 4: as a hornet's nest at Donald Trump. And if Mark Kearney,
Speaker 4: who wants to be the new Prime Minister, is going
Speaker 4: to do a deal with Donald Trump before the election
Speaker 4: in Canada in about a month, that would be impossible.
Speaker 4: He would appear to be collapsing to Donald Trump, and
Speaker 4: the Conservatives would win. The Conservatives we're going to win
Speaker 4: until these tariffs started, in which case it is the
Speaker 4: lifeblood of the Liberal Party in Canada headed up by
Speaker 4: this Mark Carney character to have someone to hate, and
Speaker 4: that person is Donald Trump. Once he is elected Prime
Speaker 4: Minister in about a month, their election is going to
Speaker 4: be toward the end of May. Once that happens, he
Speaker 4: can then strike a deal because he has the power
Speaker 4: of the electorate behind him. So for those who think, Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna jump back into the stock market big time
Speaker 4: tomorrow or Wednesday or Friday, o contrere mon frere. Until
Speaker 4: there's a deal between Canada and Mexico and America, along
Speaker 4: with possible deal with China and the EU are the
Speaker 4: big ones. This thing is going to stretch out for
Speaker 4: several weeks. Then once it is resolved. I can think
Speaker 4: of no better person on earth to negotiate on behalf
Speaker 4: of the United States of America when it comes to
Speaker 4: an economic issue than Donald Trump. And I'm also very
Speaker 4: much impressed by his Secretary of Commerce, Howard Lutnik. It
Speaker 4: made quite a bit of sense this morning with face
Speaker 4: the nation. But do you have the guts and guile
Speaker 4: to wait and to understand that you're four to one
Speaker 4: k that might become a two to oh one k,
Speaker 4: and about a year, year and a half it's going
Speaker 4: to be a six to oh one K. I don't
Speaker 4: give investment advice, but look at where we are. America
Speaker 4: controls the economy of the world, and when we sneeze,
Speaker 4: the rest of the world catches pneumonia. And so we're
Speaker 4: the ones that can set the rules and dominate the
Speaker 4: world because of our economic power. And everyone knows it.
Speaker 4: And that's why everyone's calling Donald truck and Trump, and
Speaker 4: they're calling Howard Lutnik and others. Let's strike a deal
Speaker 4: deal because our economy can't sis stand itself if we
Speaker 4: don't have access to the American market. We're the ones
Speaker 4: that drive the economy of the world. And Donald Trump
Speaker 4: knows it. And the evil, the forces of evil in China,
Speaker 4: and the good folks in Canada, Mexico and the EU
Speaker 4: in India know it also, and they know how the
Speaker 4: game's played. There's a new sheriff in town and his
Speaker 4: name is Donald Trump. Let's continue with your calls and
Speaker 4: uh if the line becomes available. Eight sixty six six
Speaker 4: four seven seven three three seven, Bill cunning in the
Speaker 4: Great American with you every Sunday night. Futures of the
Speaker 4: Dow down about three percent to thirty seven thousand on
Speaker 4: the Dow futures S and P is at four nine
Speaker 4: S and P, which is a larger basket of American companies,
Speaker 4: and the NASTEC is at sixteen thousand and nine one hundred,
Speaker 4: and we have levels one, two and three on three
Speaker 4: circuit breakers required, which are used now and then before
Speaker 4: trading is stopped, which may occur on Monday, Tuesday, or
Speaker 4: Wednesday or Thursday of Friday. Don't know, it's impossible to
Speaker 4: time the market, and there are about ten days of year,
Speaker 4: ten days a year when market goes up that if
Speaker 4: you're not in for those ten days, you lose about
Speaker 4: seventy five percent of the yearly game. So it's very
Speaker 4: unwise unless you're a real expert in trying to time
Speaker 4: the market. But level one, if the S and P
Speaker 4: falls seven percent intra day seven percent, so S and
Speaker 4: P that'd be about three hundred and fifty points if
Speaker 4: it occurs before three twenty five tomorrow ET Eastern time,
Speaker 4: trading is halt it for fifteen minutes, and then there's
Speaker 4: other levels S and P. S and P goes on
Speaker 4: and on, and the Friday benchmark closed about five thousand
Speaker 4: and seventy four, and it's going to be down two
Speaker 4: or three percent in the futures, and there's no stimulus
Speaker 4: happening in the Monday or Tuesday or Wednesday that's going
Speaker 4: to cause the market to go any direction, but likely
Speaker 4: down unless there's some major announcement made of a deal,
Speaker 4: and the deal can't be with the Iceland or Italy.
Speaker 4: The deal's got to be with the EU, in with
Speaker 4: communist red China and North Canada and Mexico, which are
Speaker 4: very very unlikely. So let's continue with more. By the way,
Speaker 4: the level one on the benchmark S and P would
Speaker 4: be about forty seven hundred. Right now it's at forty
Speaker 4: nine hundred. So we're gone from there. And if you
Speaker 4: go to the website CNBC, you can see s and
Speaker 4: P was seventeen percent below it's all time high. SNP
Speaker 4: in about a month has fallen the seventeen percent in
Speaker 4: four weeks. Let's continue with more. Your calls are next
Speaker 4: the line becomes available. Eight sixty six six four seven,
Speaker 4: seven three three seven. Bill Cunningham, the Great American, with
Speaker 4: you every Sunday night. Stay com It's gonna be okay.
Speaker 4: Been through tougher the times. America is the largest gorilla
Speaker 4: in the cage.
Speaker 1: We're gonna win.
Speaker 4: It'll take some time. Don't listen to the media. They're
Speaker 4: rooting against the country. Democrats root against the country, University
Speaker 4: types root against the country. Hardly ever, the American flag
Speaker 4: on college campuses or a so called AMAS protests ever
Speaker 4: see the American flag. I don't think so. And so
Speaker 4: it's gonna be okay, and let's go to the calls.
Speaker 4: Now set up tonight's Peak show. Later on, we have
Speaker 4: coming up a guest on the expert on the tariffs.
Speaker 1: Coming up. A guy's name is Reposa. Does a great job.
Speaker 1: Had him on before.
Speaker 4: He's gonna explain why sticking with Donald Trump on this
Speaker 4: is in the best long term interest of the United
Speaker 4: States of America. The guy is fabulous, and we're gonna
Speaker 4: have later on Kenneth Reposa will be here. Also, Robert
Speaker 4: Spencer has written a book about the sources of Jewish
Speaker 4: hatred and anti Semitism and why it's metastasized on college campuses.
Speaker 4: And then also later on as Natasha Zuvez, Who's What
Speaker 4: News Nation to discuss an incredible story, this spiritual in nature.
Speaker 4: I think America needs to be uplifted a little bit,
Speaker 4: and Natasha and Zuvez will be here to talk about that.
Speaker 4: So we have coming up Islamic hatred, Why on college campuses?
Speaker 4: Why not elsewhere? We have Kenneth Reposa on tariffs. He's
Speaker 4: an expert on such things. And why they're good and
Speaker 4: Trump's doing what's right. Then Natasha Zuvez later on, until
Speaker 4: then your telephone calls, Let's go to that's Barry and Illinois,
Speaker 4: and then Mark and Monroe, and then thousands of others
Speaker 4: have a calls from Michigan and Idaho and San Diego
Speaker 4: and Canada, et cetera. And let's begin with Barry and Illinois. Barry,
Speaker 4: Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. Barry, how are you.
Speaker 5: Doing good? Billy?
Speaker 1: Give me a full report.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm sure glad to hear you on the radio.
Speaker 5: After listen to some of these supposed conservative programs. I
Speaker 5: won't name any name, but they Oh, tariffs are bad.
Speaker 5: Tariffs are bad. I'm sure you know who I'm talking.
Speaker 4: About, some of my brothers and sisters. But how come
Speaker 4: China can sell products in this country to the tune
Speaker 4: of about a trillion dollars a year and we can't
Speaker 4: sell products in China? How come the EU was credited
Speaker 4: to come after us economically? And I'm old enough to
Speaker 4: remember the holloway out of this country that began in
Speaker 4: the nineteen nineties and accelerate it now is getting worse,
Speaker 4: and someone's got to stop it, and damn it, Donald
Speaker 4: Trump's going to stop and guess what, We're going to
Speaker 4: be better off for it.
Speaker 1: Now, please go ahead.
Speaker 5: Well, I tell you what, you nailed it because ross
Speaker 5: Puro I did not vote for the man, but he
Speaker 5: did say the thing about the giant sucking sound. And
Speaker 5: I had co workers that said, oh, we got to
Speaker 5: have NAFTA, got to have NAFTA, and I said, well, yeah,
Speaker 5: it it always works this way. We hold up our
Speaker 5: end of the deal and our allies and I'm going
Speaker 5: to put air quotes. They never do hold up their end.
Speaker 5: And that's witnessed by Canada with their treatment of our
Speaker 5: dairy farmers. And I'll tell you something else that irks me.
Speaker 5: Whenever these countries have got like a natural disaster, we
Speaker 5: send food there and the people that we send the
Speaker 5: food too, a lot of times they use it against
Speaker 5: their own people. And that is just if you remember
Speaker 5: Black Hawk down the Somalian war lords, they were taking
Speaker 5: food that we left there for them people, and they
Speaker 5: were doling it out so that they could control the
Speaker 5: poor people. And you never hear that from the news media.
Speaker 5: It's always America's bad, you know. And so that's all
Speaker 5: I had to say.
Speaker 4: Will barry, thank you and one other issue. In twenty
Speaker 4: oh six, the Gaza, which is about two hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty miles long, it's about eighteen miles wide, was the
Speaker 4: home of the so called Palestinians, and in twenty oh six,
Speaker 4: for the fifth time, Israel said, okay, we're pulling out
Speaker 4: completely at free elections. All the soldiers, the police are
Speaker 4: coming out. You're on your own. You got your country.
Speaker 4: The UN stepped up, Saudi Arabia, America EU provided billions
Speaker 4: of dollars in aid to Gaza to house, clothes, feed
Speaker 4: the Palestinians there. The government in charge selected by the
Speaker 4: Palestinians the Gazans was Hamas, a well known terrorist group.
Speaker 4: Instead of using the money sent to Gaza for schools
Speaker 4: and hospitals, nutrition for hospitals, what they did was use
Speaker 4: the money to build tunnels, go in the ground, incredible
Speaker 4: rockets and missiles to kill the jew wherever they might
Speaker 4: be located. And so it needs to be pointed out
Speaker 4: that when sixty minutes tonight did this hit piece on Israel,
Speaker 4: and they didn't make the point that terrible things happened
Speaker 4: to civilians during nasty wars terrible things happen. And the
Speaker 4: reason that is happening today Hamas started the war. Hamas
Speaker 4: could end the war tonight by saying, you know what,
Speaker 4: we unconditionally surrender. Obviously we've lost the war. Obviously Israel
Speaker 4: is won. We're going to put down our arms and
Speaker 4: please bring the aid in and give us help.
Speaker 1: We need help.
Speaker 4: But Hamas will not do that because the goal of Amas,
Speaker 4: it's a death cult. Their goal is to kill as
Speaker 4: many Jews as possible and their own people to pursue
Speaker 4: ends against Israel. And so if things end the status
Speaker 4: quo the Palestinians, you might recall, oh, there's some mild
Speaker 4: protest against the mass in Gaza, and the leaders of
Speaker 4: the protests were butchered and put through woodchippers, and the
Speaker 4: message is sent out, you will die for the cause.
Speaker 4: And I got a guest coming up later to talk
Speaker 4: about it. But in relationship to what sixty minutes Scott
Speaker 4: Pelley did tonight, and that is the goal of a
Speaker 4: moss is to kill as many Gozzins as possible it
Speaker 4: fits their political aims. That we should know that it
Speaker 4: is said that children are starved to death in Gaza
Speaker 4: by a moss it is said that children in Gaza
Speaker 4: are suffering missile strikes and dismemberments and death because of
Speaker 4: the behavior of a moss. It's not because of Israel,
Speaker 4: who's given the Palestinians now at least five occasions to
Speaker 4: form their own government. They picked terrorist groups to govern them.
Speaker 4: They take foreign aid, they use for their own purposes
Speaker 4: to hurt their own people. And the leaders of a
Speaker 4: mass said about a month ago that it is part
Speaker 4: of the duty of men, women and children and babies
Speaker 4: in Gaza that die for the cause of killing Jews
Speaker 4: and the AMAS charter. That wasn't point out by sixty minutes,
Speaker 4: but I just pointed it out. Your comments Bury if any.
Speaker 5: Well, Scott Scott Pelley is not my favorite journalist, if
Speaker 5: that's what he is. The man has an agenda, and
Speaker 5: his agenda is to make himself look like he's some
Speaker 5: kind of a savior to the world. And he's a
Speaker 5: total idiot, and he's been a total idiot, and he's
Speaker 5: becoming worse all the time.
Speaker 1: Well, uh, I like you.
Speaker 4: I can say if CBS existed during World War Two,
Speaker 4: I would like to see their coverage of the Dresden
Speaker 4: firebombing of Dresden in every major Japanese city before the
Speaker 4: Adam bombs were dropped.
Speaker 1: That saved a million American lives. I like to hear
Speaker 1: that what was.
Speaker 4: The treatment of German women and children at the hands
Speaker 4: of the Russian army And how did the German army
Speaker 4: treat the Russian women that they met on their march
Speaker 4: to Moscow?
Speaker 1: It was awful.
Speaker 4: Can you imagine one hundred and forty thousand Dresden, mainly
Speaker 4: children and women, being firebombed and burned the live in
Speaker 4: a couple nights by American bombers. If sixty minutes was around,
Speaker 4: then we couldn't have won World War Two. We wouldn't
Speaker 4: have been a winner in the Civil War. We fought
Speaker 4: the Democrats in the Civil War. The wars are terrible,
Speaker 4: awful human endeavors in which the innocent are often killed, wound, maimed,
Speaker 4: and raped. It's awful, and no army in the world
Speaker 4: is more careful about the use of their superior weaponry
Speaker 4: than the IDF because of the media coverage of what occurs.
Speaker 4: And every Gossen that is killed by the IDF is
Speaker 4: on the blood on the hands of Hamas they're the
Speaker 4: ones that could surrender tonight. But you see Berry, their
Speaker 4: goal is not to win or lose or surrender. Their
Speaker 4: goal is to kill Jews. And they've said repeatedly that
Speaker 4: we if we, if it takes a thousand years, we're
Speaker 4: going to take over Israel at some point from the
Speaker 4: river to the sea.
Speaker 1: We're going to kill them all. And that's the goal.
Speaker 4: So until the Hamas, the Hesbla both are ram, until
Speaker 4: the Taliban and Isis all come together and say, you
Speaker 4: know what, we want to live in peace with the
Speaker 4: Jews and with Christians. We want to live in peace
Speaker 4: with America, this world, that this war is not going
Speaker 4: to end, and Israel is the friend in that of states. Hew,
Speaker 4: thirty percent of the kanesseant in Israel is controlled by Muslims,
Speaker 4: and it's a multicultural Western society where women's rights are protected.
Speaker 4: You can't say the same thing I think about Gaza,
Speaker 4: or about most Muslim dominated countries, something like thirty seven
Speaker 4: of the forty are terrible places to live. How would
Speaker 4: you like to live in Indonesia or Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lebanon.
Speaker 1: It's terrible Egypt.
Speaker 4: To be a woman in Egypt, you're going to be
Speaker 4: sexually mutilated by the time you're fourteen years old. No
Speaker 4: proper education of girls or women, but the media didn't
Speaker 4: cover that because it doesn't fit their agenda. I stand
Speaker 4: with the Jews, and I stand with Israel, and thank you.
Speaker 1: For your call. Let's continue. Got me all fired up.
Speaker 4: When you lose a war and your purpose is to
Speaker 4: save your own people, what has to happen is that
Speaker 4: you unconditionally surrender you one come in here. But Amas
Speaker 4: will never do that because their goal is to kill
Speaker 4: as many of their own people as possible. As the
Speaker 4: political ploy to go against the Jews in sixty minutes,
Speaker 4: played right into it again and again and again. Let's
Speaker 4: go to Mark and Monroe. I think it says Monroe,
Speaker 4: Wisconsin Market Mark, Mark, please go, Bill Cunningham, please go ahead.
Speaker 6: Okay, First of all, I believe the stock market has
Speaker 6: been long overdue for a major correction.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 6: As far as the tariffs go, the media is insinuating
Speaker 6: the US is using the tariffs as a retailiatory tactic.
Speaker 6: And as far as the US, we're really not being
Speaker 6: reciprocal because we're actually only equating about two to one ratio.
Speaker 6: In other words, we're taking about fifty cents on a
Speaker 6: dollar as far as what we expect to get in return,
Speaker 6: So that's not actually reciprocal. So I mean it's a
Speaker 6: big advance, but certainly not you know, equal.
Speaker 1: You know, one thing about the market is.
Speaker 4: The forward price earnings ratio, and the traditional pe of
Speaker 4: the Dow is about fifteen or sixteen going forward. It's
Speaker 4: been as high as twenty seven. Right now it's at
Speaker 4: twenty one. And so this was due for a big
Speaker 4: correction because there was six trillion dollars pumped into the
Speaker 4: American economy because of COVID nineteen, largely by the Democrats,
Speaker 4: and that was the bridge over the troubled waters of
Speaker 4: our economy. And six trillion dollars has now worked through
Speaker 4: the economy and it's coming out the other side. We
Speaker 4: continue to have these huge trade deficits, and you can
Speaker 4: have forward pees above historical models of about fifteen or sixteen,
Speaker 4: very long, right pee going forward is about nineteen or
Speaker 4: twenty some stocks eighteen or sixteen. But there's probably ten
Speaker 4: to twenty percent more pain on the dial before it
Speaker 4: hits rock bottom. And you and I know, if you're
Speaker 4: somewhat sophisticated, you cannot time the market you can't say, Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm an expert. I know when the market's going to go.
Speaker 4: Many people are gonna buy in tomorrow, Monday, and Tuesday
Speaker 4: and Wednesday.
Speaker 1: If they do, they do the most experts.
Speaker 4: If you believe an expert, and I do not, I
Speaker 4: think this has got a way to go because Canada
Speaker 4: is not incentivized for a month to strike a deal.
Speaker 4: You can't have the new Canadian Prime minister running for
Speaker 4: re election in Canada striking a deal with Donald Trump
Speaker 4: before the election. That's how he's going to get elected
Speaker 4: by being tough against Trump and Mexico. Is Shinbaum is
Speaker 4: doing a pretty good job on the Darien gap, heal,
Speaker 4: et cetera. But nonetheless, China said yesterday morning Jizhao Ping
Speaker 4: had a thirty four percent additional tariff on American goods,
Speaker 4: which are largely soybeans that go into into China, so
Speaker 4: that his patience. Because it's not a democracy, the protest
Speaker 4: don't matter. There's no midterm elections in communists right China,
Speaker 4: and they're willing to take the long view and see
Speaker 4: if they can have more tumult in the markets here
Speaker 4: and pay for more democrats to act up to put
Speaker 4: Donald Trump under pressure. But Mark, I don't think Donald
Speaker 4: Trump responds well to pressure.
Speaker 1: Do you agree?
Speaker 6: Well, Actually, what I think. You know, the media it's
Speaker 6: going to try to take advantage of what I call
Speaker 6: a knee jerk reaction because of the last couple days.
Speaker 6: So their whole agenda is to you know, you know,
Speaker 6: trounce Trump, don't matter what that's it. So again, you know,
Speaker 6: if people that have better judgment can prevail, we're on
Speaker 6: the upside. If everybody's going to cave to this whole scenario,
Speaker 6: and you know, it could get really dicey, really fast.
Speaker 4: And if you're a stock trader, you have to understand
Speaker 4: you cannot time the market. You don't know when this
Speaker 4: is going to happen. Do I think that China, the EU,
Speaker 4: Canada and Mexico and America is going to strike a
Speaker 4: deal tomorrow, I'd be shocked. In fact, London said today
Speaker 4: that there's going to be a while and that there's
Speaker 4: a ten percent tariff irrespect of what's going to happen
Speaker 4: in the future. That's going to be the price of
Speaker 4: poker in this country. That means the prices in this
Speaker 4: country will go up a little bit. And then the
Speaker 4: tax cut which I went through the Senate almost during
Speaker 4: their vote rama over the weekend yesterday or Friday. Most
Speaker 4: middle class Americans are going to get a tax cut,
Speaker 4: which means that will offset the increase inflationary pressures of tariffs.
Speaker 4: Then within a year or two the prices will come
Speaker 4: back down. Well, Mark, do you think we have the
Speaker 4: patience to accept the idea that we must go through
Speaker 4: a little bit of pain for long term gain.
Speaker 6: To be honest with you, I would say no.
Speaker 1: I'd say no.
Speaker 6: Trump is a business man most people, and again I
Speaker 6: hope I'm wrong. Trust me, I don't think they can
Speaker 6: see the big picture personally. I think Trump does. If
Speaker 6: we can, whether this storm will be on the upside.
Speaker 6: If everybody flounders and caves to this whole thing, it
Speaker 6: could be a real long journey, could.
Speaker 1: Be six months or a year.
Speaker 4: In fact, if these tax cuts are not made by
Speaker 4: the end of the year, and there's going to be
Speaker 4: a four to five trillion dollar tax increase, so you
Speaker 4: take additional inflationary pressures, throw on top of it tax increases.
Speaker 4: Now you got the recipe for a terrible recession. But
Speaker 4: the Republicans control this, and I hope they understand that
Speaker 4: we elected this guy to do exactly what's occurring. And
Speaker 4: in fact, all these crises have started since Tuesday afternoon
Speaker 4: at four o'clock. Hell, it's only been five days. And
Speaker 4: look at the media and the Democrats have done in
Speaker 4: five days. I don't exactly, I don't know if we
Speaker 4: can last five months, but I think Donald trumple's stick
Speaker 4: with it.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 6: The deep state wants him to fail in the worst way.
Speaker 6: So the pressure is going to be insurmountable. And again,
Speaker 6: you know, if our you know, Republicans in Washington, can
Speaker 6: you know, get a few Cahunas behind him and they
Speaker 6: actually take a stand. You know, that's what it's going
Speaker 6: to take. I mean, you know, we got to stop
Speaker 6: Cavan and you know every situation that arises, you know,
Speaker 6: I mean, Trump is up when he's taken the forefront on.
Speaker 1: All this and Mark and this has begun five days ago.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jes L.
Speaker 4: Ping is not facing midterm elections, it is not facing
Speaker 4: a free press, and he's not facing an opposition party
Speaker 4: that dominates this so called free press. He doesn't have
Speaker 4: any of those pressures at all. He can wait this
Speaker 4: thing out and fund more tumult inside of America, along
Speaker 4: with the Iranians and others, and George Soros. And what
Speaker 4: concerns me is that maybe we won't stay the course
Speaker 4: because it's good for the country. But I think Donald
Speaker 4: Trump will do it. I think Donald Trump is not
Speaker 4: running for reelection. I don't think. I don't think he can.
Speaker 4: He'll be what eighty three years old, and at some point,
Speaker 4: you know, Father time is undefeated, untied, unscored on and
Speaker 4: at some point we have a unique president, a unique
Speaker 4: character in office at the time we need him, much
Speaker 4: like the Civil War gave us Abraham Lincoln, the turn
Speaker 4: of the last century gave us Teddy Roosevelt, the founding
Speaker 4: this Republic gave us Washington Adams and Jefferson Madison Monroe.
Speaker 4: And now at the right time, God has sent the
Speaker 4: right kind of person to control the American economy when
Speaker 4: it needs it badly. America is God's representative on Earth.
Speaker 4: Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday Night, gave a sense
Speaker 4: that the mainstream media hates Donald Trump more than they
Speaker 4: love America. You have a sense in MSNBC and CNN,
Speaker 4: Jake Tapper, Wolf Blitzer, Rachel Manole, et cetera are rooting
Speaker 4: against Donald Trump because they don't want him to be successful.
Speaker 4: They want him to fail. When he succeeds, they indicate
Speaker 4: it's a failure. And if and when he fails, that's
Speaker 4: even worse. He's like Hitler, he's Nazi, whatever whatever term
Speaker 4: you want to use. In fact, James Carvill said that
Speaker 4: we who support Donald Trump are similar to Nazi sympathizers
Speaker 4: who supported enough Hitler. If that's all they got, Trump's
Speaker 4: already won. If we stay the course, America, of course
Speaker 4: will win what God's representative on earth. The mainstream media
Speaker 4: roots against Donald Trump, hurting America, and that's their goal.
Speaker 4: But Joe Biden that covered up the truth about him
Speaker 4: because it amount have helped Donald Trump. The truth doesn't
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Speaker 4: There's the headline on CNBC that we're in a trade
Speaker 4: war officially because the communists Red Chinese has slept a
Speaker 4: terriff on US products between twenty five and thirty four percent.
Speaker 4: Headline scream retaliation. And Lutnick said today the Commerce Secretary,
Speaker 4: if that is what Beijing thinks passes for strong economic diplomacy,
Speaker 4: have added because he said, they're playing checkers and we're
Speaker 4: playing chess. The truth is simple, China's move against US
Speaker 4: is frail, desperate, and doom to backfire. Because it's not
Speaker 4: going to mean that Donald Trump and jd Vance and
Speaker 4: Lutnik and others are going to step down and say
Speaker 4: you know what, Okay, Jzau paying, Okay, you're right, We're
Speaker 4: going to play your game. No, we're not for starters.
Speaker 4: China needs us a lot more than we need them.
Speaker 4: In fact, if China did not exist whatsoever, or if
Speaker 4: their economy completely crashed, their markets they're opening in the
Speaker 4: morning are about ten percent down value of the Iranian
Speaker 4: whatever their currency is called, is now worth a penny.
Speaker 4: Stock That they understand, and I think business leaders understand
Speaker 4: that we are the big dog that determines what happens
Speaker 4: economically throughout the entire world. We're the best, the best educated,
Speaker 4: the wealthiest, and hottest consumer on the planet, having about
Speaker 4: a thirty trillion dollar GDP every year. I share these
Speaker 4: number with you a bit earlier. I got to get
Speaker 4: to the calls. We have thousands on hold. But America
Speaker 4: has the GDP of about thirty trillion dollars. The EU,
Speaker 4: which are twenty seven nations England, Belgium, Bulgaria, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland,
Speaker 4: twenty seven nations total seventeen trillion, which is a little
Speaker 4: over half of US. And China is about nineteen trillion,
Speaker 4: they say, but I doubt that number is that high.
Speaker 4: So we're the big dog. Canada is two point five
Speaker 4: trillion trillion, Mexico is one point five, and we're thirty.
Speaker 4: But Canada and Mexico together and they're about fifteen percent
Speaker 4: of the American GDP. So we're going to make the rules.
Speaker 4: We're going to set them unless the Democrats and the
Speaker 4: mainstream media hate Donald Trump more than they love America.
Speaker 4: So Shijao Ping is hoping to accomplish with this counterattack
Speaker 4: and using the involvement of protests Saturday, in which supposedly
Speaker 4: a million people showed up. I think it was more
Speaker 4: closer to one hundred thousand. And the whole nation to
Speaker 4: argue about saving democracy, Well, do they think it is
Speaker 4: not democratic when we select Donald Trump to be the president.
Speaker 4: He announced these policies five days ago, and they're going
Speaker 4: absolutely crazy. And what Hijao Ping is doing, he's trying
Speaker 4: to look strong and brave in front of his own
Speaker 4: people and his party. Perhaps he should look in the
Speaker 4: mirror because they're not a free society. They're a mass
Speaker 4: murderer of the Wigers and Muslim small sect and they
Speaker 4: make sure that there's no protest and if you do,
Speaker 4: you'll be gunned down in the streets of Beijing. The
Speaker 4: China economic renaissance is dependent upon one thing. That is
Speaker 4: the United States of America. China middle class exists because
Speaker 4: of US, and Trump knows that Beijing is clinging right
Speaker 4: now to life. Their economy is in serious difficulty if
Speaker 4: their manufacturing sector continues to shut down. They have about
Speaker 4: a thirty five percent unemployment rate with those in their twenties.
Speaker 1: It's going to get worse. Losing US means losing.
Speaker 4: Job stability and ultimately the illusion that the Chinese economy
Speaker 4: is bulletproof.
Speaker 1: Spoiler, it is not.
Speaker 4: We will take China down economically, and now there's fear militarily.
Speaker 4: I spoke to a military general retired who told me
Speaker 4: now it would be a perfect time for China to
Speaker 4: attack Taiwan. I said what he said. If this goes
Speaker 4: on another month like this and the Chinese economy continues
Speaker 4: the huge hits with all their manufacturing and real estate difficulties,
Speaker 4: they have to do something to get the vision of
Speaker 4: their people off the economic failures of communism.
Speaker 1: Well, what do you suggest, I said, I don't know.
Speaker 4: They would attack Taiwan, and they're simulating attack almost as
Speaker 4: I speak. So that's a different issue. But American companies
Speaker 4: quickly can find alternative partners in India, which is more
Speaker 4: populous than China, Southeast Asia, including Vietnam, and Latin America,
Speaker 4: and we're shifting many of our supply chains and cutting losses.
Speaker 4: We're going to be fine without China whatsoever. India is
Speaker 4: a much larger market than China. That is stupid for
Speaker 4: jijiaoping to take the bait and the terror for our products.
Speaker 4: He now he can't back down. And another factor to
Speaker 4: consider that she may not is that Chinese citizens were given.
Speaker 4: If they were given unfiltered access to American goods, then
Speaker 4: China the Communist Party could not stop the revolt. Our
Speaker 4: products are better, well manufactured, well engineered, They're more innovative,
Speaker 4: they're more reliable than Chinese products. They've spent decades trying
Speaker 4: to reverse engineer American products and knock offs, etc. But
Speaker 4: they can't duplicate the freedom that God given, talents, the
Speaker 4: ingenuity of individual Americans. They're still in our blueprints, but
Speaker 4: they can't copy our brilliance. It doesn't work that way.
Speaker 4: Free societies do much better than those that are imprisoned.
Speaker 4: Much like North Korea, China is a large prison colony
Speaker 4: in which individual Chinese have given up their freedom in
Speaker 4: exchange for economic betterment. If they lose one, maybe the
Speaker 4: other will be taken down also. So I have ultimate
Speaker 4: faith and Donald Trump and Trump I trust to do
Speaker 4: what's right for the country and keep America strong and brave.
Speaker 4: But the media and the Democratic Party were not allowed.
Speaker 4: And let's face it, the EU exist to conflict with us,
Speaker 4: and they sell their products here in much larger numbers
Speaker 4: than our products can be sold there. You let Europeans
Speaker 4: buy American products. Now Europe's in big trouble. The globalists,
Speaker 4: doom and gloomers, are wringing their hands right now over
Speaker 4: trade wars. If there is a trade war, who do
Speaker 4: you think is going to win? You're correct, America will
Speaker 4: win the trade war, no one else. And this may
Speaker 4: go on for a while in Canada, which is almost
Speaker 4: irrelevant on the world stage, despite the fact that the
Speaker 4: Canadians think they're important. They have an economy that is
Speaker 4: dependent on us, and when their leader is re elected
Speaker 4: in what about four weeks or so, it's very likely
Speaker 4: at that point that there's going to be a deal
Speaker 4: struck with America and with Donald Trump. And I've heard
Speaker 4: some in talk radio talk about the USMCA, which is
Speaker 4: United States, Mexico and Canada, that was negotiated with Donald
Speaker 4: Trump in seventeen and twenty eighteen. Well, at this point
Speaker 4: one could not recognize that USMCA because there have been
Speaker 4: so many exceptions to it by the Biden administration that
Speaker 4: it's collapsed. A new organization needs to form. And if
Speaker 4: there's two million American cars made in Canada, why can't
Speaker 4: you made in Illinois, Ohio? Why not in Tennessee. Why
Speaker 4: not in Texas or California. It's California, by the way,
Speaker 4: as a failed city state. That's a different story. This
Speaker 4: is a war that we will win with the USMCA.
Speaker 4: There have been so many exceptions in the last seven
Speaker 4: or eight years that the reality of it doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 1: We need a new agreement.
Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, Canada and Mexico
Speaker 4: will do exactly what we tell them to do because
Speaker 4: it's in their interest to do so. And Mark Carney,
Speaker 4: the Prime Minister of Canada, is going to use his
Speaker 4: fight with America, and by the way, Canadians loath Donald Trump,
Speaker 4: but nonetheless he's going to use it politically to stay
Speaker 4: in power. So after that happens in about a month
Speaker 4: from now, then a new us MCA will be put
Speaker 4: together and there'll be more free markets. I believe in
Speaker 4: open and free markets. Right now, it doesn't exist. It
Speaker 4: is a misnomer for those who say that a trade
Speaker 4: war needs to happen to solidify the trade consequences internationally.
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't. Right now.
Speaker 4: They have our money, they finance our debt, and Donald
Speaker 4: Trump is saying enough is enough. We can't live like
Speaker 4: this because the nation we give to our kids and
Speaker 4: grandkids would be so fundamentally different. Well, let's continue in
Speaker 4: their calls later on. By the way, we have Kenneth
Speaker 4: repos is going to be here to break down the
Speaker 4: numbers tonight. As I look to my right, the dal
Speaker 4: Jones Industrial is the futures are down about nine hundred points,
Speaker 4: S and P down about one hundred and fifty points.
Speaker 4: The NASTEC is down seven hundred points. So the next
Speaker 4: several days are going to be rough until there's an
Speaker 4: agreement on this. And if you listen in the morning
Speaker 4: shows as I did with Lutnik and with the President
Speaker 4: who did that impromptu news conference in Air Force one,
Speaker 4: you know what's going to happen. It's going to be
Speaker 4: a little rough for the next several weeks. It's not
Speaker 4: going to end tomorrow. China, the EU, Canada and Mexico
Speaker 4: and India all of a sudden is not going to
Speaker 4: come here. Mody is not going to come here. And Okay,
Speaker 4: everything's gonna be fine. It's going to take some time.
Speaker 4: The media hates Trump more than they love America, and
Speaker 4: many in the Democratic Party is rooting for America to lose,
Speaker 4: so they can get power back, raise a lot of
Speaker 4: money through USA and other programs, and stay in power.
Speaker 4: There's a reason Democrats go into office with no money
Speaker 4: and come out worth one hundred million dollars. And some
Speaker 4: Republicans like Mitch McConnell, does exactly the same thing, and
Speaker 4: they understand that the more tumul they cause and the
Speaker 4: more chaos and confusion, the more likely it is in
Speaker 4: a year and a half Americans will put a Keem
Speaker 4: Jeffries and Chuck Schumer and AOC in charge of the Congress.
Speaker 4: In which case we're in deep trouble. Let's continue. We
Speaker 4: have John and san Diego, then thousands of others. John
Speaker 4: and san Diego, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And John,
Speaker 4: how are you?
Speaker 8: I'm doing just great, Bill, how are you?
Speaker 5: Great?
Speaker 1: Night to be an American.
Speaker 8: I feel like a great American that I'm listening to
Speaker 8: you here.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 8: So I think what China is going to do here
Speaker 8: is they're going to declare war in cyberspace. So we
Speaker 8: don't need a space force. We need a cyber force
Speaker 8: or a tech force, and space can be underneath it.
Speaker 8: But if that's the battlefield, that's where we do it.
Speaker 8: And instead of having these I'll call them inp gen
Speaker 8: z ers and gen x is running it. You can
Speaker 8: get the old boomers and some of the older millennials
Speaker 8: in there no young age to run it and go
Speaker 8: to war with China because that's where they're going to
Speaker 8: go next.
Speaker 4: Right, John, You bring up a great point that the
Speaker 4: malware put in our computer systems and our utilities and
Speaker 4: our cell phone providers by the Chinese. I fear they
Speaker 4: could shut down electronically this country because the malware they've
Speaker 4: put all over, all over And if that happens, all
Speaker 4: hell's going to break loose. Trump's not going to put
Speaker 4: up with that. And that's entirely possible that if you
Speaker 4: can't make cellphone telephone calls. How many times you've heard
Speaker 4: about a water company incapable of pumping water because of
Speaker 4: malware or electrical grid, et cetera. And it's very fragile,
Speaker 4: and that's that's something that could occur, and then we'd
Speaker 4: have to respond to it. No matter what it is,
Speaker 4: America will win in the long run as long as
Speaker 4: we stay together. The goal of the Democrats in the
Speaker 4: media is to separate us one from the other. They
Speaker 4: hate Trump more than they love this country. I'm talking
Speaker 4: about CNN, MSNBC, most of the big city newspapers, the
Speaker 4: Democratic Party, et cetera. They hate Trump more than the
Speaker 4: love of America. But you brought up a you bring
Speaker 4: up a great point.
Speaker 8: Yeah, because we have a navy for the water, we
Speaker 8: have the army for the ground, and we need the
Speaker 8: cyber force for the cyber space because that's they're already
Speaker 8: at war with us. Bill, They've been at war with
Speaker 8: us in cyber space. That's what's been going on.
Speaker 1: Well, there's no question.
Speaker 4: And you know, if North Korea gets involved and sets
Speaker 4: off one of those one of those electronic pulses e MPs,
Speaker 4: then all hell breaks loose. And I'm glad if we
Speaker 4: go into a wartime situation, economically or otherwise, I'm damn
Speaker 4: proud to have Donald Trump in the Oval office instead
Speaker 4: of Kamala Harris and Tim Woltz.
Speaker 1: Imagine that he is.
Speaker 8: Proof that this is God's nation right there. That's he
Speaker 8: delivered us Trump when we needed him. Who else could
Speaker 8: do this bill?
Speaker 4: Nobody, nobody could. What they put him through for two
Speaker 4: or three years that no other seventy five or eighty
Speaker 4: year old could stand up to being shot and then
Speaker 4: being sued. You had to be a billionaire to fend
Speaker 4: off the lawsuits. At any one point, he had dozens
Speaker 4: of lawsuits. Then he was threatened to be in prison,
Speaker 4: and Judge Chunkin in Washington, d C. Had the goal
Speaker 4: of getting him and diet And convicted before the election
Speaker 4: so she could lock him up in federal prison. That
Speaker 4: was the goal. That's what she wanted to do. And
Speaker 4: then we're like, you.
Speaker 8: Know what, I'd like to hear, to hear what the
Speaker 8: Democrats want to do instead instead of talking about what
Speaker 8: what Trump's doing is wrong? Okay, Democrats, what's your idea?
Speaker 8: What do you want to do? What all they want
Speaker 8: is power?
Speaker 4: Bill and any How about Adam how about Adam Scheff,
Speaker 4: Tim Waltz, Kamala Harris, Barack Hussein, Obama, Joe Biden, Hunter, Biden,
Speaker 4: doctor Adam All put them in charge of this nation security?
Speaker 4: What position are we in? We're done?
Speaker 8: Well, you'd have to Gavin Newssan's first, you know, get
Speaker 8: him in there.
Speaker 4: That's your guy in California. I guess Gavin news is
Speaker 4: going to run for president. He's done a great job
Speaker 4: in California, right, So let's promote the guy.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, you know it's it's the safest and most
Speaker 8: prosperous uh state in the in the Union. Well, I
Speaker 8: drive rideshare. Let me tell you something, Bill, people aren't
Speaker 8: people are starting to turn if we're a lot more
Speaker 8: read than people think we are out here important dj TM,
Speaker 8: It's it's a sham. This could be it, this could
Speaker 8: be it. I have great American Bill. I'm glad you're
Speaker 8: on the radio.
Speaker 1: God bless you in San Diego. Thank you. Let's continue.
Speaker 4: It's something when I try to watch the mainstream media,
Speaker 4: or I watched Morning Morning. How about Morning Joe, who
Speaker 4: said a couple of months before the election, Joe Scarborough,
Speaker 4: this is the sharpest version of Joe Biden I've ever seen.
Speaker 4: The guy can do iamic pedameters. He spits upside down
Speaker 4: that this guy knows all the world capitals.
Speaker 1: He's brilliant.
Speaker 4: That's Joe Scarborough and Zeka Brazinski on MSNBC in the morning,
Speaker 4: and now all of a sudden they're flipping the other direction.
Speaker 4: They knew the truth, but wanted to sell you a
Speaker 4: lie to keep the Democratic Party in themselves in power,
Speaker 4: and you saw through it. I let's continue with more
Speaker 4: the line becomes available eight sixty six, six four seven,
Speaker 4: seven three three seven. Later on as Robert Spencer, who
Speaker 4: wrote a book about anti Semitism, where it began and
Speaker 4: why it flourishes on college campuses. Also Kenneth Riposa on
Speaker 4: the tariffs and as I look to my right that
Speaker 4: now futures are down two point three percent at minus
Speaker 4: nine ten. Then later on as Natasha Zuvez from News
Speaker 4: Nations got a fabulous story. I think about godly intervention,
Speaker 4: a nineteen year old life who jumped off the golden,
Speaker 4: Golden gate Bridge. Let's continue twenty two minutes after the hour.
Speaker 4: Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night. You know, I
Speaker 4: was born in a small town. I live in a
Speaker 4: small town. I'm going to die in a small town.
Speaker 4: I don't care much about the politics of John Cougar Mellencamp,
Speaker 4: but that's a damn good song. So let's continue. And
Speaker 4: one of the things that is part of the worldwide
Speaker 4: conspiracy against America is the coverage in this country of
Speaker 4: Hamas and what AMAS has done to their own people. Tonight,
Speaker 4: on sixty minutes, Scott Pelley went on and on about
Speaker 4: what the Israeli defense forces have done to injure innocent Palestinians,
Speaker 4: which the Israelis tried their best to avoid, and they
Speaker 4: can't happen in an all out war. From the Israeli perspective,
Speaker 4: their existence as a nation is at stake because five
Speaker 4: times they've turned land over to the Palestinians and Gosins,
Speaker 4: and each time they've been taken over by terrorists and
Speaker 4: uses launching pads to have more explosive raids and wars
Speaker 4: conducted against Israel. And this time they must completely respond
Speaker 4: to what's going on, and our mainstream media should insist
Speaker 4: in a mass being a terrorist organization surrender unconditionally because
Speaker 4: they've lost the war as a means and method to
Speaker 4: saving their own people from further damage, death and destruction
Speaker 4: at the hands of those defending their own country, Israel.
Speaker 4: Those in tonight's story with Scott Pelley on sixty Minutes,
Speaker 4: their injuries, their pain was caused by Hamas, not by
Speaker 4: Israel defending itself, any more than those living in Dresden, Germany,
Speaker 4: who were firebombed in World War Two. You blame American
Speaker 4: bombers for that. I don't. I blame the Nazis and
Speaker 4: the Nazi Party for having the conditions caught declaring war
Speaker 4: in the United States and killing American soldiers. So I
Speaker 4: would hope that our media would recognize that every injury
Speaker 4: in Gaza is caused by Hamas, who refuses to unconditionally
Speaker 4: surrender turn over the hostages. They still keep in torture
Speaker 4: them because they've publicly stated that it is our goal
Speaker 4: to have Israel inflict more pain on our own people.
Speaker 4: It fits their political ends and political goals. Most nations say,
Speaker 4: we don't want that. We don't want our own children
Speaker 4: to be killed because of where we put our tunnels
Speaker 4: and our armaments. We're going to put them in a
Speaker 4: military base. No, Hamas puts them in hospitals and in
Speaker 4: apartment buildings, so that in order to defend itself, Israel
Speaker 4: must respond by destroying those facilities occupied by innocent men,
Speaker 4: women and children who don't deserve to die at the
Speaker 4: hands of Hamas the hands of Israel. Let's continue with
Speaker 4: more coming up. First guest of the night is Robert Spencer.
Speaker 4: Put a call into him to talk about the book
Speaker 4: about anti Semitism, where it began and why has it
Speaker 4: metastasized on college campuses. And a little bit later on,
Speaker 4: as Kenneth Raposa has written our fabulous article at The
Speaker 4: Economist relative to tariffs and how Trump is on the
Speaker 4: right path. And also later on is Natasha Zuvez of
Speaker 4: News Nation about a classic jump from the Golden gate Bridge,
Speaker 4: a young man that lived, and now a lot of
Speaker 4: good is coming of it. That's the hand of God.
Speaker 4: Bill Cunningham will continue with you every Sunday night if
Speaker 4: i've Bill Cunningham, the great American. Of course, what happened
Speaker 4: on October the seventh, twenty twenty three is one of
Speaker 4: the scars on human history and the author of the
Speaker 4: book Anti Semitism, History and Myth and I want to share,
Speaker 4: with Robert Spencer's permission, the first couple sentences, which I
Speaker 4: think is very illustrative of what this issue deals with.
Speaker 4: The IMAS attack on Israel October the seventh, twenty twenty
Speaker 4: three was one of the most inhumane jihad attacks ever
Speaker 4: and reminiscent of the darkest days of the National Socialist
Speaker 4: Germany Republic. The attackers, glorified in their savagery against the Jews,
Speaker 4: invited each other to outdo one another to cruelty. Yet
Speaker 4: despite or perhaps because of the cruelty in the brutality
Speaker 4: that attack unleashed in the past year and a half,
Speaker 4: expressions of hatred for Jews that shocked those who assume
Speaker 4: such hate was the thing in the past. And Robert Spencer,
Speaker 4: welcome to the Bill Cunningham shows. Let's go back a
Speaker 4: little bit in time as far as to hatred for
Speaker 4: the Jews. Where did it begin, How did it begin,
Speaker 4: and how did it metastasize to October the seventh.
Speaker 9: Well, it begins way back before even the beginning of
Speaker 9: Christianity in Pagan Rome, when the Romans were annoyed that
Speaker 9: the Jews.
Speaker 7: Were not assimilating.
Speaker 9: And that's really in the pattern ever since that the
Speaker 9: Jews throughout history wherever they've been, have maintained their distinct identity,
Speaker 9: their distinct beliefs, culture and practices, and so they have
Speaker 9: run up against people who were hostile to them for
Speaker 9: that reason all through history. Today, the main source of
Speaker 9: anti Semitism is coming from the left, which as we know,
Speaker 9: is ferociously collectivists. You think about maos China, where everybody
Speaker 9: even wore the same clothes, and that's the ideal for
Speaker 9: the left. That's equity, you know, that everybody's on the
Speaker 9: same level, and so they don't like Israel and they
Speaker 9: don't like Jews for maintaining once again those distinctive beliefs,
Speaker 9: culture and practices. And so as the Left is making
Speaker 9: its big push in the West of these days, it
Speaker 9: has become furiously anti Semitic and anti Jewish.
Speaker 4: As far as Christianity, I want to deal with that
Speaker 4: separately for a moment, because I think largely we Christians
Speaker 4: I'm a practicing Roman Catholic, has overcome the vision. It's
Speaker 4: just anti Semitism that went on for about a thousand
Speaker 4: or maybe fifteen hundred years or longer. The Jews in
Speaker 4: medieval France or Germany weren't treated any better than the
Speaker 4: Hamas treated at the Jews. They were burned at the stake,
Speaker 4: they weren't allowed into societies for one thousand and a
Speaker 4: half years by Christians. And I heard the argument, the
Speaker 4: idea that the Jews were quote the christ killers played
Speaker 4: a part in that. And my boss is a Jewish carpenter,
Speaker 4: and I purposely have engaged the practice of law in
Speaker 4: Jewish law firms because I love, for some reason being
Speaker 4: around Jews and it's wonderful faith and family commitment, education.
Speaker 4: But describe how Christians dealt with Jews until most recently
Speaker 4: but even today that is a lot less. But describe
Speaker 4: the relationship between Jews and Christians.
Speaker 9: Well, you really hit the nail on the head there,
Speaker 9: Bill saying that the Jews killed Christ and saw on
Speaker 9: that was the plane. It's kind of weird that ever
Speaker 9: gained any currency, because, of course, we know as Christians
Speaker 9: that the fundamental idea of Christianity is that it's our
Speaker 9: sins that put Christ on the cross, and he is
Speaker 9: on the cross as an expiation for our sins. And
Speaker 9: so then to turn around and say, well, it's the
Speaker 9: Jew's fault that he's on the cross contradicts it seems
Speaker 9: to me, basic Christianity. And so that's one of the
Speaker 9: things that led to the fact that Christianity. Of the
Speaker 9: four main causes of anti Semitism, Christianity, Islam, national socialism,
Speaker 9: and international socialism, it's Christianity alone that repudiated anti Semitism
Speaker 9: and rejected it at the highest levels in every Christian group.
Speaker 4: That's an important comment to make. Christians said anti Semitism
Speaker 4: is awful, it's terrible, it's a sin, it's a crime.
Speaker 1: To stop it.
Speaker 4: There's pockets that practice it, but not many, unlike in
Speaker 4: the Islamic world. And I kind of liken it to
Speaker 4: an extent to the founding this country. For a long
Speaker 4: time time, Jews were not part of the American economic
Speaker 4: or democratic experience. Here in little Cincinnati, Ohio, there's a
Speaker 4: Jewish hospital, which is wonderful. There's Jewish private country clubs
Speaker 4: which are great, and so over the generations. If society
Speaker 4: did not let the jew in, they created their own
Speaker 4: separate identities if permitted to do so, and flourished.
Speaker 1: Is that correct?
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's absolutely right, though. And the thing is is
Speaker 9: that when they did that, then they were blamed for
Speaker 9: holding out and not becoming part of the larger group,
Speaker 9: and so it became kind of a vicious circle.
Speaker 1: So where are we today?
Speaker 4: October seventh is applauded by the radical left in this country.
Speaker 4: I watch on college campuses. It's awful. And it's in
Speaker 4: the Midwest too, because the University of Cincinnati, which is
Speaker 4: about ten miles from where I broadcast from, had another
Speaker 4: incident a couple of days ago where Hamas supporters were
Speaker 4: shouting down individuals. And it's true in the Midwest but
Speaker 4: it's metastasized more in Columbia and the large campuses UCLA
Speaker 4: University of Chicago.
Speaker 1: It's horse there.
Speaker 4: What is the current role of Islamic relations with Israel
Speaker 4: and with the jew.
Speaker 9: Well, of course, it's tremendous hostility in the Islamic world
Speaker 9: to Israel and the Jews, because it's the very existence
Speaker 9: of Israel is an insult to Islam. Islam is a
Speaker 9: very earthly religion that is expansionist, supremacist, aggressive and violent,
Speaker 9: and it demands that Muslims wage war against unbelievers in
Speaker 9: order to bring the world under the hegemony of Islamic law.
Speaker 9: And the Koran teaches drive them out from where they
Speaker 9: drove you out, which means any land that was once
Speaker 9: ruled under Islamic law belongs by right to Muslims forever,
Speaker 9: and the Muslims have to fight to get it back
Speaker 9: if it is not being ruled under Islamic law. That
Speaker 9: means that there is no Israel of any size that
Speaker 9: would ever be acceptable to the Islamic world. And so
Speaker 9: the there's always going to be this war. There's no
Speaker 9: not going to be a two state solution, There's not
Speaker 9: going to be peace with Israel. Ever, because of these
Speaker 9: elements of Islamic theology and so as, the campuses have
Speaker 9: become dominated by the left, and the left sees Islam
Speaker 9: as an ally. The Islamic anti Semitism has become mainstream
Speaker 9: on the left and we are seeing it increasingly virulent
Speaker 9: and violent form.
Speaker 7: On campuses all over the country.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you present it rather a dark future, but
Speaker 4: I think it's accurate. I can't conceive of Hamas or
Speaker 4: Boca Haram or Talibam or Isis saying you know what,
Speaker 4: let's live separate apart Israel. You do your thing, We're
Speaker 4: do ours. We're going to build up our society. We
Speaker 4: won great schools, great colleges, we won great middle class
Speaker 4: values in Gaza, and we're going to demonstrate to the
Speaker 4: world how our way of thinking is better than yours.
Speaker 1: And you point out that'll never happen.
Speaker 4: For those who want to quote the two States solution,
Speaker 4: explain why that will never happen.
Speaker 9: Okay, if you've got the religious imperative drives them out
Speaker 9: from where they drove you out. Now you understand this
Speaker 9: is not based on the idea that the Israelis actually
Speaker 9: drove out the Arab Palestinians. Although that is the claim,
Speaker 9: it's false. The Arab Higher Committee told them to leave
Speaker 9: in nineteen forty eight because they thought they would destroy
Speaker 9: Israel quickly and then they could get they would get
Speaker 9: the people, the civilians, out of the way, and then
Speaker 9: they could go back home in a few weeks.
Speaker 7: When Israel was gone. But that didn't work out that way.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 9: The fact is, though this idea drives them out from
Speaker 9: where they drove you out, is based on the principle
Speaker 9: that I explained before that any land that belonged to
Speaker 9: the Muslims belongs to the Muslims forever. And so because
Speaker 9: the Muslims ruled the land of Israel in the Middle Ages,
Speaker 9: they have a right to it today. And so there
Speaker 9: is no agreement that can be made between Israel and
Speaker 9: any Muslim states that would allow Israel to exist indefinitely.
Speaker 9: If they did that, then many Muslims would consider that
Speaker 9: to be against Islam and would fight against the government
Speaker 9: that may the agreement. There is no Israel of any
Speaker 9: size that is acceptable under these circumstances. And so as
Speaker 9: long as there are Muslims who believe in Islam and
Speaker 9: believe in the Qur'an, then there can be no peace
Speaker 9: between those Muslims and Israel.
Speaker 4: So you're saying, Robert Spencer, that the Qur'an orders that
Speaker 4: adherent Muslims kill the Jew wherever they might be located,
Speaker 4: especially in Israel.
Speaker 9: And that is the thing. It's not that every Muslim
Speaker 9: is going to do that, but yes, it is. It's
Speaker 9: an imperative to wage war. Just as a matter of fact.
Speaker 9: This morning, the International Union of Muslim Scholars, which is
Speaker 9: just what it says, it is said that jihad against
Speaker 9: Israel is an obligation on every Muslim in the world.
Speaker 4: Well, what is that lead? Because here in America there's
Speaker 4: a little bit of wobble. But I live in Cincinnati,
Speaker 4: Hamilton County, northern Kentucky. There's not many Muslims. There's there's
Speaker 4: one big mosque, and it's peaceful. It's quiet, except when
Speaker 4: exported from outside into this country. There's not too many
Speaker 4: examples of Muslim extremist killing Jews in America. Why is
Speaker 4: that the case.
Speaker 9: Well, in America, they know that that would bring more
Speaker 9: trouble onto the Muslim community than it's worth. Essentially, that
Speaker 9: it's one thing to do it in a country where
Speaker 9: the authorities will say, yes.
Speaker 7: Good thing, you did.
Speaker 5: That.
Speaker 9: We hate the Jews too, you know, as in any
Speaker 9: Muslim country where the Jews have actually been driven out
Speaker 9: long ago, or in many places in Europe where the
Speaker 9: authorities are afraid of the Muslims and are not going
Speaker 9: to prosecute them seriously, as in Britain. And so it's
Speaker 9: a different thing when you have, especially with the Trump
Speaker 9: administration in power, you have a very different situation in
Speaker 9: the United States. And so I don't think you're going
Speaker 9: to see many Muslims, if any, heating the call of
Speaker 9: the International Union of Muslim Scholars.
Speaker 7: But they still made it.
Speaker 4: It's consequences here. Other parts of the world, there's no consequence.
Speaker 4: How about this theory, I've had this for a while,
Speaker 4: Robert Spencer, author of a great book anti Semitism, History
Speaker 4: and Myth, that the Jew serves as a convenient scapegoat
Speaker 4: for the failures of Middle Easian societies. About thirty seven
Speaker 4: of the forty Muslim dominated societies in the world are
Speaker 4: terrible places to live. You do not want to live
Speaker 4: in Jordan or Egypt at middle class values, aron, Iraq,
Speaker 4: Syria terrible places to live. So the Jew is a
Speaker 4: convenience scapegoat for the failures of the policies of the
Speaker 4: governing forces in Muslim countries.
Speaker 1: And so like in Gaza.
Speaker 4: Now there's a little bit of a movement of the
Speaker 4: Palestinians living in Gaza is saying, we can't live like this.
Speaker 4: It's awful, it's terrible to Hamas. Look what Hamas has
Speaker 4: done to us. I understand that the bodies of those
Speaker 4: who said such things in Gaza were divided into pieces
Speaker 4: and put on their famil's doorstep. That this is what
Speaker 4: happens in Gaza. When you say that somehow Hamas should
Speaker 4: be taken out of leadership in Gaza, which was they
Speaker 4: about eighteen years ago the Jews left Gaza completely and
Speaker 4: said okay, you're on your own. Billions of dollars flowed
Speaker 4: into Gaza. It was used to build tunnels and bombs
Speaker 4: and missiles and rockets, not to improve the society in Gaza.
Speaker 4: But as far as my thoughts about Jews being convenient
Speaker 4: scapegoat for the failure of Muslim governments, what's your reaction
Speaker 4: to that?
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 9: And here again it goes back to the Koran and
Speaker 9: the Koran says that the Jews are the worst enemies
Speaker 9: of the Muslims, that the strongest in enmity against those.
Speaker 7: Who believe will be the Jews.
Speaker 9: And so anything bad happens, and as you noted, the people,
Speaker 9: the anti Hamas people in Gaza are getting killed. So
Speaker 9: anything bad happens, a lot of people they know, well,
Speaker 9: we can't actually blame the government will get killed. We
Speaker 9: can't speak out freely against this. The only thing we
Speaker 9: can do is really blame the Jews. And this is
Speaker 9: what the governments encourage themselves because it takes the heat
Speaker 9: off them.
Speaker 4: So you also have a few comments in your book
Speaker 4: antisemitism history and myth anti Semitism leads to genocide in
Speaker 4: America is not yet led there because we don't have
Speaker 4: virulent antisemitism. There are scores a lot in America, but
Speaker 4: it's not government sponsored. But in those countries that consider
Speaker 4: Jews to be like rats and mice and cockroaches, anis
Speaker 4: Semitism does lead to genocide.
Speaker 9: Correct, Yeah, absolutely, I mean it's obvious from history. It's
Speaker 9: not just the Nazis, although they're the foremost example, but
Speaker 9: you look all around the Middle East. There used to
Speaker 9: be Jewish communities in pretty much every country, and they
Speaker 9: were all completely eradicated after the nineteen forty eight when
Speaker 9: the Jews in the various countries were blamed with, blamed
Speaker 9: for and associated with the state of Israel and either
Speaker 9: killed or forced out of the countries, and so.
Speaker 4: The Middle East drained itself into Israel. Here's the Are
Speaker 4: you ready for the big question?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, where do we go from here?
Speaker 4: Because I look at this point Israel is an advanced society,
Speaker 4: in some ways more advanced than America when it comes
Speaker 4: to military They have vicious enemies all around them. Many
Speaker 4: Muslim Islami governments will pay ransom to individuals that are
Speaker 4: dead who blew themselves up to kill Jews. They're streets
Speaker 4: named after the so called martyrs of Islam. And so
Speaker 4: here we sit in April of twenty twenty five. Can
Speaker 4: you tell me how it ends.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 9: I don't think that it's going to end well. I
Speaker 9: think that there's a fanatical hatred that's been loosed in
Speaker 9: the world and it's going to play out, and I'm
Speaker 9: hoping by this book to try to head off some
Speaker 9: of the worst of it. Maybe that's ambitious to say
Speaker 9: that one book can change things, But well, it's happened
Speaker 9: before in history, and the crisis is very advanced now.
Speaker 9: I think some people have dehumanized the Jews to such
Speaker 9: an extent that they would welcome a new genocide. And
Speaker 9: it's a very dangerous period we're in.
Speaker 4: You know, one thing Hamas said the leadership in Amas,
Speaker 4: who live like millionaires, by the way, and Cutter and
Speaker 4: other rich Middle Eastern countries that they said that they
Speaker 4: were asked, how come you locate your military basis underneath hospitals?
Speaker 4: How come you put rockets and missiles inside schools? And
Speaker 4: that's going to cause the unintended consequence of the death
Speaker 4: of innocent men, women and children in Gaza. And the
Speaker 4: answer was, they are part of the jihad. They should
Speaker 4: want to die, because when you die in this fashion,
Speaker 4: you have a special place in heaven. So Hamas and
Speaker 4: many Islamic militants want to kill their own, their own children,
Speaker 4: their own babies by putting their military equipment inside facilities,
Speaker 4: knowing what's going to be the reaction. Now, how sick
Speaker 4: is that most civilized societies avoid that. But Hamas and
Speaker 4: both a Ram and others demand that you die, your
Speaker 4: children be killed and when the hostages came out, most
Speaker 4: came out and were treated horribly. They said, basically, they
Speaker 4: consider us to be rice, kind of like mice and
Speaker 4: rats in the tunnels. So explain that theory that the
Speaker 4: Hamas will act in a way that will cause the
Speaker 4: death of their own people.
Speaker 9: Well, this is another thing that goes back to Islamic teaching,
Speaker 9: and the Kuran actually says the Jews say that we
Speaker 9: are a Law's children and his beloved. Then let them
Speaker 9: love death and that will prove see that they love
Speaker 9: a law, that they love death. They prefer life with
Speaker 9: a law in the next world to life in this world.
Speaker 9: And the idea of love of death is something that
Speaker 9: jihadis often refer to, saying we will win because we
Speaker 9: love death more than you love life. Like they're not
Speaker 9: afraid to die. They are happy to die because then
Speaker 9: they'll be with the law. And so they enforced that
Speaker 9: among their people. And you know, I remember seeing a
Speaker 9: few years back a guy who was going to go
Speaker 9: blow himself up. He had a truck full of explosives,
Speaker 9: and all his friends were outside the truck egging him
Speaker 9: on and telling him he was soon going to be
Speaker 9: with the virgins. In Paradise and how great it was
Speaker 9: and so on, and the guy starts crying he didn't
Speaker 9: want to die. It's a natural impulse to love life
Speaker 9: and to want to be alive. That's a basic human impulse.
Speaker 9: But Islam fights against it.
Speaker 4: It's a culture of death, it's not a culture of life.
Speaker 4: And I don't see how it ends well. But thanks
Speaker 4: for the book, Robert Spencer. Book is anti Semitism history
Speaker 4: and mytho its everywhere. And Robert Spencer, once again, thank
Speaker 4: you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show setting the
Speaker 4: record straight.
Speaker 7: Thank you very much, Robert A pleasure, Bill, Thank you.
Speaker 1: God bless you. Let's continue with more.
Speaker 4: As I say often, the truth will set us all free.
Speaker 4: My Delly cunning into great American Robert Spencer brings out
Speaker 4: the truth about anti Semitism, history and myth and the course.
Speaker 4: I watched this evening sixty minutes and they did an
Speaker 4: awful piece really about what's happening in the Gaza hospitals
Speaker 4: occasion by the behavior of Hamas and its refusal to
Speaker 4: admit the obvious, which is they've lost the war. All
Speaker 4: it takes is for Hamas to say, unconditionally, we surrender
Speaker 4: you one we lost and come on in and provide aid.
Speaker 4: And AMAS leadership has said repeatedly that they're going to
Speaker 4: use them men, women and children and the babies Palestinians
Speaker 4: living in the Gaza Strip in order to have the
Speaker 4: bombings and the artillery shells fall from Israel onto hospitals, orphanages,
Speaker 4: in schools and homes because that's what they want. AMAS
Speaker 4: started the war, they chose war on October the seventh,
Speaker 4: and probably know a civilized society, which is Israel, has
Speaker 4: been more careful about not killing civilians than the IDF.
Speaker 4: But sixty Minutes has to act as if they have
Speaker 4: to be equal between Hamas and Israel, and there is
Speaker 4: no equality. Israel are the good guys and the mass
Speaker 4: are a terrorist group. I let's continue with more coming
Speaker 4: up next to mckenneth Riposa on the stock market, and
Speaker 4: so much more was his melting down is as we
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Speaker 4: By Billy Cunningham, the great American. As you may know,
Speaker 4: all hell's breaking loose. And for those who have a
Speaker 4: little bit of a weaker backbone, they may be quivering
Speaker 4: a bit about the election of a Donald Trump, but
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Speaker 4: He's implementing his own plan, and Vietnam is now going
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Speaker 4: Of course, Kenneth Reposa is a great American. He's a
Speaker 4: seasoned business and foreign airfarares reporter with more than twenty
Speaker 4: years experience stationed abroad as a reporter with the Wall
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Speaker 4: where the bodies are buried, and Ken joining us now
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Speaker 4: Coalition for a Prosperous America and Kenneth welcome again to
Speaker 4: the Bill Cunningham Show. So this Liberation Day was Tuesday,
Speaker 4: and since then all hell's breaking loose in the media.
Speaker 4: You can't watch it without hating what's going on, et cetera.
Speaker 4: But nonetheless, talk to the American people about the tariff policy.
Speaker 1: Say during the.
Speaker 4: Four years of Joe Biden, what Donald Trump promised and
Speaker 4: what's the impact is going to be. Tell us where
Speaker 4: things were before Trump took office.
Speaker 10: Okay, so before Trump took office, let's go back to
Speaker 10: the early days. The origin story in twenty seventeen, right,
Speaker 10: that's when Trump put tafts on China, and the same
Speaker 10: guy said the same thing, the.
Speaker 8: Sky is falling.
Speaker 10: China's our biggest trading partner.
Speaker 8: It's going to be a disaster.
Speaker 10: They're going to risk, they're going to retaliate, they're going
Speaker 10: to kill American farmers.
Speaker 8: They're all going to go out of business.
Speaker 10: All all the story, the sky is always falling. None
Speaker 10: of that happened. Of course, farmers did get in trouble
Speaker 10: because Brazil China did put sort of a sanction on
Speaker 10: imports of American soybeans, which is the number one import
Speaker 10: for China in the United for the United States goods,
Speaker 10: and then a few years been the United's gonna had
Speaker 10: to subsidize them. Years later, maybe two years later, China
Speaker 10: was back to buying American soybeans at record levels, you know.
Speaker 10: So that's what happened. Then then Trump leaves office and
Speaker 10: Biden comes in. Biden kept the China tariffs in place.
Speaker 10: In addition, last May, he increased tariffs on Chinese cars evs.
Speaker 10: In particular, he increased tariffs on Chinese semi semiconductors and
Speaker 10: Chinese solar from mainland China.
Speaker 8: So Biden kept.
Speaker 10: The same policy as Trump, despite the fact that we
Speaker 10: keep hearing the media now and how it's how horrible
Speaker 10: it is. Of course, I understand that now this is
Speaker 10: a global thing, right So now they're saying, yeah, but
Speaker 10: China was one thing. Now we have now we're tariffing
Speaker 10: the world. So that's that's that's the second part.
Speaker 8: Of the discussion. And I can get into that if
Speaker 8: you want, Okay.
Speaker 4: So as far as the tariffs, tariffs have been employed
Speaker 4: by other nations on a regular basis to keep our
Speaker 4: products out of Canada, out of Mexico, and out of
Speaker 4: China because those countries don't want our products there. They
Speaker 4: want to protect their own farmers, manufacturers, et cetera. And
Speaker 4: is the number about a trillion dollars a year trade
Speaker 4: deficit with the world that America is not open to
Speaker 4: these other markets but their products come into do we
Speaker 4: lose about a trillion dollars a year in trade deficits
Speaker 4: at this point.
Speaker 10: You're close. It's a record breaking one point two trillion
Speaker 10: dollars now, And let me explain why that is.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 10: Some people will say, well, if Trump is so concerned
Speaker 10: about the trade deficit and wants to make things in
Speaker 10: the United States and manufactures domestically, the China taffs didn't
Speaker 10: work right. Well, the reason for that is because Chinese
Speaker 10: multinationals and Western multinationals that outsourced to China decided that
Speaker 10: they were going to make things in they were going
Speaker 10: to ship from Vietnam instead. In Southeast Asia, our trade
Speaker 10: deficit with Vietnam, which is a poor country. Their currency
Speaker 10: is worth the price of a sea shell at a
Speaker 10: gift shop in Cape Cardon in the summertime, does not
Speaker 10: import a lot of the US goods. So our trade depficit,
Speaker 10: which with Vietnam is now our fourth largest. It's one
Speaker 10: hundred and thirty two billion dollars only China. The EU
Speaker 10: in Mexico has a greater trade depth surplus with the
Speaker 10: United States. So our deficit, you know, I'm meaning you know,
Speaker 10: they have a surplus, We have a deficit. Vietnam is
Speaker 10: our fourth largest, so the China. So why did our
Speaker 10: deficit rise despite these tariffs with China Is because the
Speaker 10: multinationals that were sourcing from China they decided to source
Speaker 10: instead from Mexico and from Southeast Asia. So that's why,
Speaker 10: that's why the deficit rose during the taff years on China.
Speaker 10: And now Trump is saying, well, We're going to hit
Speaker 10: the whole the whole world now and see what happens.
Speaker 4: Now, why is the market used the term it's it's
Speaker 4: almost in correction territory at this point. I think one
Speaker 4: or two of the markets as we speak. The Dow
Speaker 4: appears to be down in the range of about fourteen
Speaker 4: dollars almost every day day since Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
Speaker 4: Monday is going to be banned. How come the markets
Speaker 4: is reacting so negatively.
Speaker 10: Well, the market always reacts negatively to these You know
Speaker 10: news on global trade disruptions, right right, and so of
Speaker 10: course you have. I'm not going to really cry that
Speaker 10: a bunch of European and Japanese institutional fund managers are
Speaker 10: selling out and cashing in on all time highs, or
Speaker 10: that even American companies and investors are cashing out on
Speaker 10: all time highs and sitting in cash. Or maybe they're
Speaker 10: buying let's look at this, maybe they're buying American treasury
Speaker 10: bonds and putting it in there instead, so treasury bond
Speaker 10: yields will decline, so interest rates will fall and the
Speaker 10: US government can refinance its debt.
Speaker 8: At a lower rate.
Speaker 10: Debt now is what do we keep hearing is nine
Speaker 10: hundred billion dollars I think a year in interest payments alone.
Speaker 10: So you know, we have a big problem in this country.
Speaker 10: Trump also wants to use tariffs to raise revenue so
Speaker 10: you could pay down the fiscal deficit. That's one option.
Speaker 10: Another thing would be to raise revenue to afford the
Speaker 10: permanency of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which Trump
Speaker 10: signed his first turn and expires next year. So you know,
Speaker 10: these these are these are all the reasons for the tariff. Now,
Speaker 10: if you want, there's two ways to look at tariffs
Speaker 10: right now, So what a Trump announce on Liberation Day?
Speaker 10: So he announced the famous reciprocal tariff, right, So then
Speaker 10: you've got countries that have high rates of forty percent
Speaker 10: and some countries that have lower rates of tents. So
Speaker 10: from what I understand is that the reciprocal rate is
Speaker 10: based on whatever the trade deficit is with that country
Speaker 10: and maybe also calculating something like non tariff barriers, and
Speaker 10: I want to get to insider baseball on what those are.
Speaker 10: Those reciprocal rates can be negotiable. So if you look
Speaker 10: at Vietnam at forty eight percent or whatever it is,
Speaker 10: that might be negotiated lower. Okay, but there's going to
Speaker 10: be a floor on that. There's going to be a floor.
Speaker 10: It's not going to so you keep and I think
Speaker 10: the floor is ten percent because if you read the
Speaker 10: memo that yeah, they read the memo from the White House,
Speaker 10: this is gonna they call it an ad valorum tacks
Speaker 10: of ten and then on top of that is an
Speaker 10: ad volarum reciprocal rate. Okay, So Trump cannot So you're
Speaker 10: hearing a lot of companies down said we're gonna go
Speaker 10: to zero, We're gonna we're gonna put zero tariffs. That's
Speaker 10: a de facto free trade deal that cannot happen. The
Speaker 10: United States is not gonna say, oh great, Argentina went
Speaker 10: to zero, so we're gonna go to zero. That's a
Speaker 10: de fact though free trade deal. Congress will and should
Speaker 10: get involved in something like that, obviously, because that involves
Speaker 10: labor and environmental rules, and that's that's a whole of
Speaker 10: the ball game. That's that's not how it works. Congress
Speaker 10: has to be involved when it comes to free trade agreements.
Speaker 10: And so you're not gonna go zero to zero. And
Speaker 10: Trump cannot signal to a business community that he wants
Speaker 10: to invest in the United States like we saw a
Speaker 10: Hyundai do a week or two ago now with record
Speaker 10: breaking twenty one billion investment. You can't signal to the
Speaker 10: market and in business community that we want to invest.
Speaker 10: We're gonna make it attractive to in in the United
Speaker 10: States manufacturing. We want to invest in medical manufacturing. And
Speaker 10: then on the other hand, say here's what we're going
Speaker 10: to do. We're going to provide some protection through tariffs.
Speaker 10: Oh guess what tariffs are coming off?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 10: You know you and I are not going to invest
Speaker 10: in that market because there's no stability, there's no surety.
Speaker 8: So he has to keep.
Speaker 10: At least the ten percent tariff that will not come off.
Speaker 10: That is non negotiable. What is going to be negotiable
Speaker 10: will be the reciprocal tariff rates. We might see them
Speaker 10: coming down over time, you know, so, but he has
Speaker 10: to be firm on the tariff. That tariff has to
Speaker 10: has to be signal to the market in discmmunity that
Speaker 10: if a country wants to go to.
Speaker 8: Zero, that's irrelevant.
Speaker 10: We're not going to zero.
Speaker 8: We're going we're going to ten.
Speaker 4: Now, one thing the media won't cover is the amount
Speaker 4: of new investment in the country. I watch everything that
Speaker 4: I can, including your friends in MSNBC. I watch that
Speaker 4: so you don't have to. And I'm hearing now that
Speaker 4: this is a this is an historical mistake. That you
Speaker 4: have the individuals like Jim Kramer an other saying he's
Speaker 4: going to crash the economy. But on the other hand,
Speaker 4: when I watch other news outlets, You've got Apple, you
Speaker 4: got a list of dozens of companies that have promised
Speaker 4: to in source all these manufacturing processes that in the past,
Speaker 4: what was made in Mexico especially communists read China. I
Speaker 4: kind of love the Canadians, but they've taken advantage of
Speaker 4: us for a long time. Two million American cars are
Speaker 4: made in Canada and shipped into here. Canada's maybe a
Speaker 4: different issue. There are friends, but in China's case, they're
Speaker 4: making large numbers of electric evs in Mexico to the
Speaker 4: flood the market when the next time the Democrats take
Speaker 4: over and so do you buy into the fact that
Speaker 4: long term this is great for the economy but there
Speaker 4: may be some short term pain.
Speaker 10: Absolutely, absolutely, I agree with that. The United States, the
Speaker 10: stock market, and the US consumer right, okay, and US
Speaker 10: political system in general thinks short term.
Speaker 8: Yes.
Speaker 10: At the same time, we always talk about our number
Speaker 10: one rival. Our number one rival isn't the French and
Speaker 10: the Germans. We don't even care about those guys anymore.
Speaker 10: Our number one rival, other than you know, there are friends.
Speaker 10: Our number one rival economically speaking and politically speaking and
Speaker 10: in a geopolitical sense is China. China doesn't worry about
Speaker 10: what they're what the Shanghai Stock Exchange looks looks like
Speaker 10: right now. They don't worry about, you know, the fact
Speaker 10: that their biggest EV company, you know is in the red.
Speaker 10: They care about that, they care about the long term.
Speaker 10: They're saying, when you think about you brought up EV's
Speaker 10: They're saying, if the Western world, the biggest consumers in
Speaker 10: the world outside of China, is going to go EV, well,
Speaker 10: I want to play in that market.
Speaker 7: I have a right.
Speaker 10: China has a right to have an auto industry. For
Speaker 10: prying out loud, you know what I mean, the Koreans view,
Speaker 10: the Japanese do, the Chinese certainly have a right to
Speaker 10: have one, and they're saying, if the West is going
Speaker 10: to go EVAs, then that's what I'm going to put
Speaker 10: all of my money. I'm going to pull all of
Speaker 10: my chips in the EV market. And so they have
Speaker 10: done that, and they have done it successfully. I will
Speaker 10: tell you the other day I was on a BBC
Speaker 10: program and during the commercial break there was a commercial
Speaker 10: for a BYD which is a Chinese EV company. It
Speaker 10: was a commercial for their SUV. I don't know which model,
Speaker 10: but you know see those in the United States. You
Speaker 10: do see them in Europe, in the UK. And yet
Speaker 10: at the same time you hear the Europeans constantly crying
Speaker 10: about their auto industry struggling because of all these cars
Speaker 10: coming in from coming in from China. Well okay, well,
Speaker 10: I mean they can do something about it, or you know,
Speaker 10: or they can or they can't. Then BMW and Mercedes
Speaker 10: and Volkswaga would just have to compete with Chinese evs,
Speaker 10: which is what the Western world wants to run on,
Speaker 10: especially in Europe, coming in by the trainload. And that's
Speaker 10: that's their prerogative. But that's not obviously what we want
Speaker 10: to do here in the United States.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, Joe Biden wasn't Joe Biden. He was mentally incompetent.
Speaker 4: We now know that from the books that have been written.
Speaker 4: But somebody around Joe Biden signed an auto pen and
Speaker 4: put tariffs on China. We do not want the auto
Speaker 4: industry in this country to collapse as the steal industry
Speaker 4: has collapsed. And so even Joe Biden chief of staff
Speaker 4: understood that the Chinese cannot build large plants in Mexico
Speaker 4: and flood the market with cheap evs and raise the price.
Speaker 4: Once we have destroyed auto plants and no more Forward
Speaker 4: and no more Salonis. Chrysler right now is a feon entity,
Speaker 4: and you have I'm a Chevy kind of a guy.
Speaker 4: But is Europe wondering what are we going to do
Speaker 4: because they are permitting into their country millions of Chinese
Speaker 4: evs to collapse domestic production and check up the price
Speaker 4: and put them out of business. The Chinese will say,
Speaker 4: Kenneth Riposa, if it takes a thousand years, that's okay.
Speaker 4: We've never had an enemy in this country like communists
Speaker 4: Red China that are an economic power and building a
Speaker 4: military power. USSR Russia had missile technology. They were never
Speaker 4: economically a competitor of ours. We're in a death struggle,
Speaker 4: I think with the communist Red Chinese.
Speaker 10: Do you agree, well, absolutely, And if you want to
Speaker 10: get rid of the political side, you can make it
Speaker 10: very rational to to to people. So forget about all
Speaker 10: they're gonna we're gonna go to war with China, figure
Speaker 10: all that sort of emotional argument.
Speaker 11: But what about this.
Speaker 10: China is a big economic power, obviously, but they're saying
Speaker 10: this still doing the same thing that the Americans have
Speaker 10: done for years. They're saying, see this country, see these countries.
Speaker 8: In our neighborhood, Central.
Speaker 10: Asia, Southeast Asia, maybe even Japan and South Korea, We're
Speaker 10: going to be Chinese corporate brands are going to be
Speaker 10: the ones that are sold here now. So in the
Speaker 10: future it's not going to be Microsoft Word or Amazon Cloud.
Speaker 10: That doesn't exist in China per se, but that's not
Speaker 10: going to be a market in Asia either. And then
Speaker 10: when the Chinese big you know, big bird there I
Speaker 10: think it's called the Komak, right, the Beijing the Boeing
Speaker 10: and Airbus competitor, once that airplane starts becoming you know,
Speaker 10: more trustworthy, it's not just the Chinese that are going
Speaker 10: to buy that for international flights and you know, large
Speaker 10: regional flights. It's going to be the Vietnamese and maybe
Speaker 10: even the South Koreans that buy it. And that's going
Speaker 10: to eat into Boeing an Interbus, which own that market
Speaker 10: for decades. So this is an economic power that rivals
Speaker 10: no one other than the United States. But let me
Speaker 10: explain you one thing about about the tariff party, because
Speaker 10: this is what this what we keep hearing all day
Speaker 10: long on the news, is that all the.
Speaker 8: Importers, of course, all.
Speaker 10: The importers at Walmart and Target, right, they don't tell
Speaker 10: you that the big the big multinationals, right, they're going
Speaker 10: to pretend that can and you know, you and I
Speaker 10: have a widget factory and we have to import all
Speaker 10: the chemicals to make our widget, and now we can't,
Speaker 10: and so we're going to go out of business. Those
Speaker 10: are the guys that are going to target, right, and
Speaker 10: they're gonna have us on TV and we're gonna sit
Speaker 10: there and cry. And I was a Trump supporter, and
Speaker 10: you know it's going to be a big, big surface.
Speaker 10: But here's something that they don't tell you. There are
Speaker 10: a lot of companies out there, by the thousands, who
Speaker 10: have invested millions of dollars over the years, including recently.
Speaker 8: And factories.
Speaker 10: And if that factory can let's say, make one hundred
Speaker 10: widgets a day, maybe it's only making fifty widgets a.
Speaker 8: Day or sixty.
Speaker 10: And the reason they're doing that after spending all that
Speaker 10: money on equipment, most of that equipment, by the way,
Speaker 10: imported from Europe or China or Japan. Because we don't
Speaker 10: make those large capital goods equipments that much. They are
Speaker 10: laying people off and they're not producing it full capacity
Speaker 10: because of import penetration. Auto workers do this, said this,
Speaker 10: that's why they're at Liberation Day. The United Auto Workers
Speaker 10: were there. Hey, we got we've got factories that are idle.
Speaker 10: We're not making cars. So when you say, you know,
Speaker 10: the importers are going to suffer, what about these guys
Speaker 10: I just described who have been suffering for decades and
Speaker 10: have gone out of business or have been laid off,
Speaker 10: you know, and in some parts of the country where treatments,
Speaker 10: drug treatment centers have opened up, you know instead, you know,
Speaker 10: so no one's ever really cried for these guys. And
Speaker 10: those are the guys now who you know. GM doesn't
Speaker 10: have to and GM doesn't have to build a new
Speaker 10: factory to make cars. They already had the factories in
Speaker 10: Indiana that instead of making let's say, four hundred thousand
Speaker 10: cars a year, they only make two hundred thousand because
Speaker 10: that same model is firing on all eight cylinders in
Speaker 10: Mexico factories.
Speaker 4: And when that changes, these factories can go to one
Speaker 4: hundred percent. It sounds to me, Kenneth Oroposa, as if
Speaker 4: we're almost in an economic death struggle that we must win,
Speaker 4: and our attitude can't be what's the market on Friday,
Speaker 4: what's the market on Monday? How's it opening? It's got
Speaker 4: to be the long view, which Americans have difficulty doing.
Speaker 4: But the Chinese says, if it takes a thousand years, well, Kenneth,
Speaker 4: we got to run articles everywhere. Happy Liberation Day America,
Speaker 4: Kenneth Roposa and with a Coalition for Prosperous America. Once again,
Speaker 4: thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Kenneth,
Speaker 4: you've I got to steal backbone you do. I hope
Speaker 4: the American people also do. Kenneth, once again, thanks for
Speaker 4: coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Kenneth. God
Speaker 4: bless you all. Let's continue Bill cunning Him the Great
Speaker 4: American Live with you every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham
Speaker 4: The Great American.
Speaker 1: Once again.
Speaker 4: I'm monitoring what's happening in the Far Asian market since Chaw.
Speaker 1: We say it's not good.
Speaker 4: Every market's down in the Far Eastern Asian countries by
Speaker 4: either one percent or up to seven percent, and that's
Speaker 4: rippling across the globe. And the futures marker right now
Speaker 4: is off twelve hundred on the Dow. Of course, it
Speaker 4: might get worse before it gets better, and it will
Speaker 4: get worse. I'm fairly confident of that, which is unfortunate.
Speaker 4: It's the way things are as Donald Trump has said,
Speaker 4: it's like treating a patient with cancer. You might have
Speaker 4: to get sick before you get better. It's like treating
Speaker 4: someone that has a serious problem, and all of a
Speaker 4: sudden we live in some instant society in which within
Speaker 4: four or five days all these issues must be resolved.
Speaker 4: And they can't be resolved within four or five days.
Speaker 4: It's taken us years or decades to get here. With
Speaker 4: trade and balances north of a trillion dollars, gonna take
Speaker 4: a little time to get out. I think the American
Speaker 4: people don't have the patience. As she shall Ping has
Speaker 4: said many times and many guys, is if it takes
Speaker 4: a thousand years, we will wait. And with Americans, well,
Speaker 4: what about the midterms in nineteen months? So we have
Speaker 4: an instant gratification principle at play. While some of our enemies,
Speaker 4: which is the Chinese government and Palestinian terrorists, have both
Speaker 4: said if it takes a thousand years, that's okay. Do
Speaker 4: the American people have the common sense and backbone to
Speaker 4: say this is going to take some more time. By
Speaker 4: four to one K may become a two to one K,
Speaker 4: but long term it is going to be great for
Speaker 4: the American people and for the country that we love.
Speaker 4: That's the question laid upon the table tonight. Let's continue
Speaker 4: with more coming up next, A little bit of an
Speaker 4: off beat story with Natasha Zuvez. Natasha Zuvez is with
Speaker 4: News Nation, a production of Sean Compton and Moore. A
Speaker 4: little bit off beat but you're gonna love it. Bill
Speaker 4: Cunningham with you every Sunday.
Speaker 12: Night, by Bill Cunningham, the great American.
Speaker 1: Of course, News Nation.
Speaker 4: It's a source I use quite often for objective news
Speaker 4: and coverages of one type or another, and Natasha Zuvez
Speaker 4: is one of their great reporters. She's a broadcaster. She's
Speaker 4: also three times won Emmy Awards for independent journalism and
Speaker 4: things of that character, et cetera. And of course many
Speaker 4: issues are percolating, including what's happening with the tariffs, and
Speaker 4: what's happening with with trent To Ragua, TDA, et cetera.
Speaker 4: But in addition to that, Natasha has a new podcast
Speaker 4: out called Truth of the Matter. And there's a fantastic
Speaker 4: story posted relative to a Golden gate Bridge suicide that
Speaker 4: resulted in the attempted suicide not occurring. And Natasha Zuvez
Speaker 4: once again, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham show, Natasha tells
Speaker 4: the story because I know San Francisco's Golden gate Bridge
Speaker 4: is this side of just so many suicides, persons that
Speaker 4: have lost any reason to live. So tell the American
Speaker 4: people about this, about this person that jumped off the
Speaker 4: bridge and survived.
Speaker 11: Bill. It's an incredible it's great to be on with
Speaker 11: you again, and it's posted right now, as you said,
Speaker 11: all the new podcast, The Truth of the Matter.
Speaker 13: This is a man by the name.
Speaker 11: Of Kevin Hines, and he was nineteen years old when
Speaker 11: he said at the time he thought he was his
Speaker 11: family's greatest burden.
Speaker 13: He thought he was youth. Of course, nothing could have
Speaker 13: been further from the truth.
Speaker 11: He was so loved, but he headed to the Golden
Speaker 11: gate Bridge like far too many others, with the intention
Speaker 11: to die by suicide that day. And he says, you know,
Speaker 11: his dad could sense something.
Speaker 14: Was wrong that morning, but.
Speaker 13: He hit it all.
Speaker 11: He told his father he was fine, and you know,
Speaker 11: his dad dropped him off at City College in San Francisco,
Speaker 11: and Kevin says he remembers thinking, as my dad drove
Speaker 11: away with us, the last time I'll ever see someone
Speaker 11: I love, and that's the last time anybody I love
Speaker 11: will ever see me, But he truly thought the world
Speaker 11: and his family would be better off without him. He
Speaker 11: made a pact with himself, Bill which Kevin says he's
Speaker 11: now an advocate who has helped thousands and thousands of
Speaker 11: people who grapple with mental health issues. He says he
Speaker 11: made a pact like people often do, making these kinds
Speaker 11: of plans, and he said, if one person says, are
Speaker 11: you okay? Is something wrong? Or can I help you?
Speaker 11: I was going to tell them everything and beg them
Speaker 11: to help me.
Speaker 14: And so he took the bus.
Speaker 11: He withdrew from his classes, took the bus openly crying
Speaker 11: on the way to the bridge.
Speaker 13: Nineteen year old kid.
Speaker 11: He spends forty minutes on the bridge, tears streaming down
Speaker 11: his face, and then one person finally approaches him, a tourist,
Speaker 11: he says, with curly blonde hair. She smiles at him
Speaker 11: and says, will you take my picture? He takes her
Speaker 11: photo and catapults off the bridge. And that's just where
Speaker 11: the story begins built because he's overcome with overwhelming regrets
Speaker 11: the moment he does this.
Speaker 13: He follows two.
Speaker 11: Hundred and twenty three feet likely hits the water at
Speaker 11: seventy five miles an hour. It's like hitting concrete going
Speaker 11: in a car, a three to four second fall. And
Speaker 11: as he's following, all he's thinking is what have I
Speaker 11: just done?
Speaker 14: I don't want to die.
Speaker 11: God he saved me and he hits the water and
Speaker 11: Bill what happens next? Even for me, someone who's been
Speaker 11: in the business a while and done some grizzly investigations,
Speaker 11: I couldn't believe it until we found the proof.
Speaker 4: What is well, First of all, before we get to
Speaker 4: the prove, Natasha, give us a little bit of the
Speaker 4: social history of Kevin Hines nineteen years old. So many
Speaker 4: young Americans today appear to be lost, hard to get work,
Speaker 4: hard to find work, difficult to go to college, live
Speaker 4: in their parents' basement, live in their parents' house, difficult era. Well,
Speaker 4: what led him to the point of jumping off the
Speaker 4: Golden gate Bridge.
Speaker 11: Yeah, he suffered from mental health issues for sure. But
Speaker 11: you know he talked about something today which I think
Speaker 11: is so important, which is he said, we are so
Speaker 11: disconnected from one another. You know, he was a young
Speaker 11: kid when this happened. Everybody's on their phones now, and
Speaker 11: this happened even before smartphones.
Speaker 13: Took over, but he was like, we need to just
Speaker 13: look up.
Speaker 14: At one another these days.
Speaker 13: I mean you could.
Speaker 11: We could be on a bus going all the way
Speaker 11: to the Golden Gate Bridge and a nineteen year old
Speaker 11: and I he photos of him at that time.
Speaker 14: Bill, he looks like a kid, He looks.
Speaker 11: Like a little boy and openly crying. And not a
Speaker 11: single person would look up from their phone these days
Speaker 11: and notice that anything is going on. We need the
Speaker 11: social network, the community. The fabric is broken.
Speaker 13: And you are right.
Speaker 11: We are in a situation today. We're increasing and mental
Speaker 11: health has never been worse among our young people. They
Speaker 11: are sucked into their phones early. There are so many
Speaker 11: social issues, you know, the micro classics in their brain. Honestly,
Speaker 11: the list goes on. It's a hard time to be
Speaker 11: a young person in this country. And we all should
Speaker 11: be worried about the mental health of our.
Speaker 1: Children, no question.
Speaker 4: And I can't tell you how many stories they hear
Speaker 4: about parents and their children that go to college, they
Speaker 4: drop out. They go to college, they get out, they
Speaker 4: can't find jobs commensurate what they perceived to be their skills.
Speaker 4: And we have fens and all ways, marijuana use as
Speaker 4: ubiquit as so many young men, especially or on their
Speaker 4: phone for porn. They live in some fantasy world without
Speaker 4: developing relationships with girls and women.
Speaker 1: They also have gambling problems.
Speaker 4: You can bet on the next play, you can bet
Speaker 4: on ping pong in Ecuador. I saw this one story.
Speaker 4: You can bet on ping pong in Ecuador, who's going
Speaker 4: to win the next point? And you live in some
Speaker 4: fantasy land and it's completely unaddressed. We don't have a
Speaker 4: system to help mental health, especially young men and young
Speaker 4: women and girls. And when you say that when he
Speaker 4: was falling, he had consciousness, Oh my god, what have
Speaker 4: I done? It relates back to me when I had
Speaker 4: a distant family member who sadly committed a suicide, shot
Speaker 4: himself in the head, and then his significant other wasn't
Speaker 4: his wife. His significant other looked in his eyes and
Speaker 4: would he could hear him almost say what have I done?
Speaker 4: And he did this to punish her, and he's dying
Speaker 4: and he wants to live the same thing as Kevin Hines.
Speaker 4: All right, So he's falling seventy five miles an hour,
Speaker 4: two twenty two story building is what he fell into
Speaker 4: the cold, throlling waters of the Pacific Ocean.
Speaker 1: What happened as he was falling? What happened is he
Speaker 1: hit Yeah?
Speaker 13: Wow, what a poignant story. Thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 11: You know, what is incredible about him is how many
Speaker 11: people do not survive an attempt like this, especially jumping
Speaker 11: off of the Golden gate Bridge.
Speaker 14: How many of them?
Speaker 11: Bill had thoughts like this overwhelming regret. I don't want
Speaker 11: to die, God, please save me.
Speaker 14: What have I done?
Speaker 11: And Kevin is actually able to tell us this tale.
Speaker 13: But he hits the water.
Speaker 11: His back is broken, He's an excruciating pain. He starts
Speaker 11: to sink because he's wearing heavy boots a heavy jacket.
Speaker 11: He says, three miracles saved him that day. We go
Speaker 11: into all three of them. They're extraordinary. On the podcast,
Speaker 11: I'm going to tell you about just one of them today.
Speaker 6: For time.
Speaker 13: He says, something.
Speaker 11: Below him started circling in the water and nudging him.
Speaker 13: Upwards because he was thinking wow, And finally.
Speaker 14: It supported him like a.
Speaker 11: Table under the water for a minute. I stayed with
Speaker 11: him until the coast guard got there. When I first
Speaker 11: heard this tale, I met Kevin as a journalist in
Speaker 11: San Francisco eight years ago actually, but the first time
Speaker 11: I met him, I was like, we need proof.
Speaker 14: Now we found it.
Speaker 11: There was a man who was on the bridge that
Speaker 11: day who watched this happen. And you know, Kevin expresses
Speaker 11: regret today for all of the people he traumatized who
Speaker 11: were on the bridge that day who watched this kid
Speaker 11: vault over the railing and fall into the water. A
Speaker 11: man who was standing on the bridge, he was in
Speaker 11: another state now confirmed to me that he watched what
Speaker 11: happened and saw a sea lion save Kevin in the water.
Speaker 11: And then I spoke to the coast Guard and they
Speaker 11: said a separate individual came to the station later that
Speaker 11: day and logged in account inquiring after the young man
Speaker 11: they saw jump off the bridge, saying, the most extraordinary
Speaker 11: thing happened as sea lion circled this boy and stayed
Speaker 11: with him and wouldn't let him sink.
Speaker 14: And finally I.
Speaker 11: Found and spoke with the coast Guard officer who pulled
Speaker 11: him from the water that day, an incredible man by
Speaker 11: the name of Marcus Butler, and in his four years
Speaker 11: serving as a US Coast Guard at Station Golden Gate
Speaker 11: out there, he pulled fifty seven bodies from the water
Speaker 11: bill and just one live man.
Speaker 13: You can imagine.
Speaker 11: As soon as I said, do you remember Kevin, he said, yeah.
Speaker 14: He's the only man I pulled live from the water.
Speaker 11: And he said that what many people don't realize is
Speaker 11: that people often do not.
Speaker 13: Die on impacts when they fall off the bridge.
Speaker 11: Because it's an agonizing way to go. And he has
Speaker 11: not been able to shake these body recovery missions.
Speaker 14: He still has nightmares about it.
Speaker 11: He says it's the stuff from horror movie that you
Speaker 11: see out there on the water. But he says he arrived,
Speaker 11: he was like he's swimming. He's swimming and the lights
Speaker 11: which went off in his mind.
Speaker 13: But he's not a.
Speaker 14: Body with spree.
Speaker 13: This is a rescue.
Speaker 14: He said it was a miracle.
Speaker 11: And he says that animals were always scared off by
Speaker 11: the sound the boats make, so he didn't see the
Speaker 11: sea lion by the time he pulled right alongside this boy.
Speaker 11: But he said, it makes total sense to me because
Speaker 11: I remember thinking, how on earth is this is this
Speaker 11: young man lying on the surface of the water like
Speaker 11: a table.
Speaker 13: He's wearing long.
Speaker 11: Sleeves, close pants, heavy boots. He can't swim through stuff
Speaker 11: like that, He's injured.
Speaker 14: Why is he lying like this?
Speaker 11: Why is he lying perfectly still on the surface of
Speaker 11: the water and.
Speaker 14: Waiting for me to get there.
Speaker 11: That is Kevin Hines's story, at least part of it,
Speaker 11: the rest of it. As I said on the Truth
Speaker 11: of the Matter, he says, it's the gifts to be
Speaker 11: here every day and he still lives with these chronic
Speaker 11: thoughts that dogin. It's not over.
Speaker 14: There has been no cure, but he.
Speaker 11: Says he will never die by suicide today and he
Speaker 11: has dedicated his whole life to sharing his.
Speaker 13: Story so that others know.
Speaker 11: It's overwhelming regrets on the other side, and.
Speaker 13: Help is available.
Speaker 11: People can as I know you definitely want to get
Speaker 11: out there text for call.
Speaker 14: Nine eight eight. Help is always available though.
Speaker 4: All right, so this story's incredible, it's unbelievable, but your
Speaker 4: credibility as a journalist is unimpeachable, So you're saying, Natasha
Speaker 4: Zuvez of Truth of the Matter also News Nation that
Speaker 4: a sea lion bob underneath them to hold his body
Speaker 4: up below the Golden Gate Bridge before help arrived.
Speaker 1: That's what actually occurred.
Speaker 11: That's what actually occurred, according to two separate witnesses who
Speaker 11: saw it that day.
Speaker 13: They believe in animal likely as sea lion.
Speaker 11: It is possible that it was a dolphin, because I
Speaker 11: also spoke to a marina expert and from that far up,
Speaker 11: she said, if they look identical. But two separate people said,
Speaker 11: a sea lion circled him, stayed with him, held him
Speaker 11: a lost held him like a table under the water
Speaker 11: for minutes until the coast guard got there.
Speaker 14: He would not have survived without it.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 4: One might ask how's he doing his relationship with his family,
Speaker 4: relationship with his dad. Did the underlying problems that caused
Speaker 4: this attempt at suicide?
Speaker 1: Have they been solved? Are they better? Are they definitely
Speaker 1: is getting help?
Speaker 14: What?
Speaker 7: How did think?
Speaker 13: That's a good question. Yeah, it's that's a good question.
Speaker 13: And this is so important.
Speaker 11: Bill. No, the underlying problems have not been solved, and
Speaker 11: that's important. He will live with mental health struggles for
Speaker 11: the rest of his life, but he is determined to
Speaker 11: live with them. And I think that's really important because
Speaker 11: so many of us, and far too many of our
Speaker 11: youth struggle. The issue is not the struggle that he
Speaker 11: is resourced now.
Speaker 13: And he knows what to do.
Speaker 11: His relationship with his father has completely bloomed after this.
Speaker 11: In the podcast, he does and see an incredible account
Speaker 11: as his father seeing his father, his strong dad who
Speaker 11: rarely shows emotions, break down and cry in the hospital
Speaker 11: as he approached his bed after this attempt, and Kevin
Speaker 11: says he never could have seen the life that was
Speaker 11: waiting for him, his dad being the best man at
Speaker 11: his wedding, the incredible speech that he gave. He has
Speaker 11: met the love of his life who is his biggest support.
Speaker 11: And now they go all around the country. They are
Speaker 11: asked to speak to large groups both law enforcement, government,
Speaker 11: you know senators, congressman as well as young people, to
Speaker 11: share this story and share this account. This struggle will
Speaker 11: never be over for him, but he says he will
Speaker 11: never die by suicide.
Speaker 4: Well, and the story that I had years ago of
Speaker 4: this guy who shot himself in the head to punish
Speaker 4: his significant other for X and then he's dying and
Speaker 4: is looking as I was, what have I done?
Speaker 1: I love you? I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: He had the time, and I guess Kevin Hines had
Speaker 4: the time. They live, one live, one didn't live. But
Speaker 4: that is some aspect of suicide which is so final
Speaker 4: that just before consciousness is lost that many times the
Speaker 4: individual who's committing suicide is very sorry they did it.
Speaker 4: So you're saying, in Kevin Hines's case, as his body
Speaker 4: is falling and flailing from two hundred and twenty three
Speaker 4: feet a twenty two story building and he hit splat.
Speaker 4: Hitting water is like hitting God great And in those
Speaker 4: moments of consciousness he had such regret a three.
Speaker 11: Or four second and it's feared in his brain the
Speaker 11: most cogent of thoughts, What have I done? I don't
Speaker 11: want to die, God, please save me? And he hits
Speaker 11: the water.
Speaker 14: It's incredible that he's able, almost from.
Speaker 11: The other side, to be able to tell us that
Speaker 11: so many people cannot.
Speaker 4: Natasha, is this a religious moment? Is this proof of
Speaker 4: God's existence or simply evidence thereof or simply a Sarah
Speaker 4: dipitous event where a passing sea lion decided to save somebody?
Speaker 11: What is it?
Speaker 13: Who can answer that question?
Speaker 11: I can tell you this episode just went live yesterday
Speaker 11: and all of the comments say God sent that sea lion,
Speaker 11: and I who am I to disabuse anyone of that notion?
Speaker 14: I believe it all right?
Speaker 4: More of the stories at Truth of the Matter of
Speaker 4: the podcast, Natasha and Zuvez we had planned to talk
Speaker 4: about all the big issues today about the tariffs and
Speaker 4: about more illegals committing acts of Mayhem and the fact
Speaker 4: that TDA is split into two groups. But when we
Speaker 4: started down this path doesn't give us enough time to
Speaker 4: deal with the other ones. But I guess I wish
Speaker 4: Kevin Hines, I do. I wish Kevin Hines and his family. Well,
Speaker 4: he's won in a million, one in several thousand. No
Speaker 4: human being can survive the fall he did for a
Speaker 4: particular reason. Hopefully his life will be led differently. Now,
Speaker 4: have you maybe in five or ten years check with
Speaker 4: him to see how's he doing? What has he done
Speaker 4: with the time given to him?
Speaker 11: Already done so much? And absolutely I will, Bill, thank you.
Speaker 11: I hope people check it out, the truth of the matter.
Speaker 11: And of course you know I'll see everyone on these
Speaker 11: nation Prime weekend starting at seven eastern.
Speaker 14: Bill.
Speaker 13: It's always a pleasure.
Speaker 14: Thank you so much.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 4: And for those who need help you hit nine eight eight,
Speaker 4: Explain how that came about, because that's why we have
Speaker 4: to hit area codes now.
Speaker 1: But nine eight eight, how how much time? How many lives?
Speaker 13: It's so important?
Speaker 11: I mean so yeah, before it was a cumbersome process,
Speaker 11: and you know, siloed by different areas. It's so simple
Speaker 11: now literally call or text nine eight eight from your phone.
Speaker 11: Help is always available Mental health and suicide Lifeline.
Speaker 13: That is the message today.
Speaker 11: It is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. And
Speaker 11: Kevin Hines, you know, attests to that absolutely.
Speaker 4: All right, Natasha, thank you very much, great work, and
Speaker 4: thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Natasha,
Speaker 4: Thank you Bill. All right, let's continue with more. Wow
Speaker 4: nine eight eight, help is always available. And in moments
Speaker 4: just before your eyes shut, men, you who commit suicide
Speaker 4: have that look saying what have I done to myself?
Speaker 4: What I've done to my family? All right, let's continue.
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Speaker 4: It's not going to get any better. When I watched
Speaker 4: some of the new shows this morning, it was awful.
Speaker 4: I thought the presence of Donald Trump and Air Force
Speaker 4: One having an impromptu news conference was fabulous. I have
Speaker 4: more respect than I had for a long time for Lutnik,
Speaker 4: who's the Commerce Secretary, and also Scott Piscent who runs Treasury,
Speaker 4: to stay the course today, the course and the long run,
Speaker 4: America will win because we're the giant in the room
Speaker 4: with about a thirty trillion dollars GDP, and EU together
Speaker 4: with China, is about the same as our GDP, so
Speaker 4: we're the ones that can win this as long as
Speaker 4: we stick together. But what are the odds of America
Speaker 4: sticking together when the Democratic Party is rooting for the
Speaker 4: failure of this country and the failure of Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: When you have hundreds of thousands show up yesterday on
Speaker 4: the silly so called demonstrations, some resulting in riots, when
Speaker 4: they're rooting against this country, you seldom see the American
Speaker 4: flag at hamas rallies in support thereof seldom see the
Speaker 4: American flag at these democratic get together events bought and
Speaker 4: paid for.
Speaker 1: Doesn't happen they're working? Is the interests of America and
Speaker 1: essentially the mainstream media and most of the Democratic Party
Speaker 1: hates Donald Trump more than they love the United States
Speaker 1: of America. So we'll see what happens this week. I'll
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Speaker 1: support the President, support America. If a trade war has begun,
Speaker 1: this is one that America will win without question, as
Speaker 1: long as we stick together, and the media and the
Speaker 1: Democrats willow that to happen. I think not. Bill Cunningham
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