Speaker 1: What's up, guys, Happy Monday. Welcome to puck Time on
wager Talk TV. Andrew and Carmine with you. We've got
games pretty much all day long today, starting with an
early game Detroit and Nashville. As Carmen and I were
talking backstage together, it's part of a European global series,
but as Karen said to me, they're not actually playing
in Europe, but they're playing in the europe time so
they can watch it in primetime over there.
Speaker 2: So look forward to a great, great day.
Speaker 1: I got a four percent best bet locked and loaded
for that early game two pm Eastern, and a couple
other games going tonight as well.
Speaker 2: Caren, what's up man, Good morning.
Speaker 3: Good morning man. Trade deadline is here, man, I'm looking
forward to it. We're gonna see if we're gonna see
some moves which could affect some of the games today
and likely will affect some of the lines for tomorrow.
But it'll be interesting. But yeah, the we start with
game in Smashville today at two am. Look at two pm.
Looking forward to I got like a ton of stuff
on the go, but I'm gonna be watching that game.
Funny thing is uh, Steve Stamcoast already came out. Stephen
Stamcost already came out and said there is zero chance,
zero chance. He waves his no trade clause, so he
is gonna stay in Smashville. It's gonna think it would
take a hell of a lot of money in some
unique kind of deal for stamp Coast to leave or
for him to waive it. But when he says there's
zero chance, that means there's zero chance. So we shall see.
Speaker 2: Riley Karm he says he won't go to a big market.
Speaker 1: You know, I gotta say, as much as I understand
why NHL players do that, isn't it kind of a
bad look for players that say they don't want to
go to a big market. That seems a bit weird
to me. How the older they get in their career
they become so particular with where they would play. I
saw one thing with Steven Stamkos one of the only
things he teams, he would go back to Karm Tampa
Bay Lightning.
Speaker 3: Well, as far as Ryan O'Reilly goes, he can go
to a small market team that is playing some big
market hockey right now, the Buffalo Savers. I have to
believe the Sabers are going to make a trade just
to add a little bit of depth, and you always
worry about adding someone at the trade deadline and it
completely screws up the team chemistry. The Savers could use
a player. Alex Tuckis is an unrestricted free agent this summer.
There were chances that if the Savers weren't doing as
well as they are doing right now, that he would
be on the move. Would they would be moving at
the trade deadline. I think he's going to stay. So
with that said, we'll see maybe Ryan O'Reilly to the
Buffalo Savers. I would love to see that deal. He's
not going to go to a team like the Toronto
Way Beliefs because quite frankly, why would you want to
go to a team that's not going to make the playoffs? Andrew,
But anyways, to sum up my weekend and then we'll
get to yours, and then we'll get to these games
right away. Friday and Saturday were pretty good hockey wise.
The Sunday was an absolute disaster. It was like dog Day,
every dog one, with the exception of I think the
end of the night the Anaheim the Anhim Ducks came
back to win their game against Calgary, but every other
dog one. I was bitten twice, at least twice with
a couple of client plays. Florida Panthers. Man, they did
everything but win against the New York Islanders. But it
is what it is. We're going to move on to today, guys.
We're going to cover Columbus and the Rangers, Carolina, Seattle, Colorado,
La Kings, same game, partly from Andrew a pod play.
Friday's pod play was a winner with the Buffalo Sabers
against the Florida Panthers and the six and sixty win
five and one. The only losing play on the six
and sixty the Pittsburgh Penguins lose in a shootout to
the New York Rangers, blowing a two nothing lead. We
had six and zero in our hands, guys, we had it,
and the Penguinos didn't do it for us.
Speaker 1: Andrew, great job with the six and sixty. Car It
was a good segment. And I'll tell you I had
those Penguins, man. I had the Penguins, and I had
two games on Saturday that both teams had a two
nothing lead and they lost three to two. And the
other team was the Nashville Predators actually who we're talking
about today a little bit here later in the show
with the pod. But you know, I just I look
at those games and they just drive you crazy. Because
on Friday, I did my every game on the Board video, right,
and you know, I won't get into this with you,
but it's the biggest thing that we face in the business,
which is there's you know, let's say, thirteen games on
a Saturday. I'm probably not gonna bet all thirteen games,
but on my every game on the Board video, I
had an opinion on a lot of the games. So
you know, like that oilers in San Jose game. I
hope a lot of you guys head the over in
that game because how I left that off my card.
I have absolutely no idea. But to see the Penguins
go up to nothing, I thought I was gonna start
my day off on a good note.
Speaker 2: Same for you. And yeah, and then they blow that
lead away was was very very top to see.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you, Karen, you're Buffalo sabers man. We
talk about wins, we talk about losses. I liked Seattle
on Saturday night, and I never do parlays in hockey
really but I was like, you know what, I think
Tampa's gonna bounce back. I'll take Tampa and pair them
with Seattle against Vancouver because Vancouver's not gonna win. And
then it's four nothing Buffalo on Saturday. I'm like, oh
my god, man, I'm no, I'm on, I have Buffalo
on the only bet list.
Speaker 2: I cannot bet against them right now. They're that good's it.
Speaker 3: Was a little odd. I didn't have the game, but
I was tempted to put out a pod play on
Saturday on the Savers plus two hundred because I just
thought they were super impressive against Florida, but on the
second of a back to back, I wasn't sure they
could replicate that against Tampa Bay. And I took so
I took my wife out for dinner and I leave
the game is just starting. I park at the restaurant,
I get out of the car and I look at
my phone. I see four nothing. I'm like, for nothing?
How was it for nothing? Already? I thought it was
a mistake, so I had to hit on the actual
game to see that there were actual goal scorers. I
thought something was going on. So I don't know what
is going on right now? If the playoffs started right now, boys,
for all you people watching, it would be the Buffalo
Sabers hosting the Montreal can in the first round, or
as I would like to call it, a first round
by for the Buffalo Sabers, but I digress. Andrew hates
when I do that and call them the free space
on the Bingo card. The Sabers are no longer the
free space on the Bingo card.
Speaker 1: But with that, saund some good content. I'd say, if
me and you went to those games together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what's going to make what's going to
make for some great content. I believe the trip is
still on. I am going to Buffalo on March the
twenty seventh to watch the Buffalo Sabers and the Detroit
Red Wings with Johnny Detroit, his beautiful wife, and one
other person. It won't be the press. He's gone, he's
six weeks in Whistler, but he will be on Thursday
and Friday this week on puck time before he goes skiing.
Detroit and Buffalo they're going to be battling as well too,
So that is going to be a great game and
we'll see which way that one goes. If you don't
see me on Mondays. If the Sabers winning, you don't
see me on Monday's pluck time. It is because Johnny
had me removed and sent to sports Memo or something.
But with that said, Andrew, we kind of get to
the games. Let's get to this one here. Hey, I
did that pretty good. It is Columbus and the Rangers
minus one twenty five on Columbus plus one oh five
on the Rangers at home, who continue to average just
under two goals per game. The total sits here at
six and a half. Andrew, where are you going with
this one?
Speaker 1: Well, Carl, I mean when you look at this game,
I think that, like Columbus has been a team that
I've wanted my money on for quite a while this season.
And you know, I think that when you look at
even when they've come off a loss or when they've
come off a win, they've they've been able to have
a really good level of consistency. And you know, looking
at their games since the break, like we have seen
the Rick Bonus systems still kind of stick around, but
the defense hasn't looked the exact same, So I worry
about maybe they're relying a little bit too much on
the goaltending. If we look back to before the break,
they won against the Blackhawks four two, not a playoff team,
They won against the Blues five to three, not a
playoff team, the Devil's three nothing.
Speaker 2: You know that team's not doing too well.
Speaker 1: And of course again another shutout against the Blackhawks for nothing.
So sometimes, carm I feel like we can get a
little bit too ahead of ourselves with a team with
how they maybe were performing just because of the teams
that they were playing against. Now that's not me saying
that I'm not a Columbus Blue Jackets guy, because I
still respect what they've been able to do and I
still think this team is a team that we can
get behind. And when it comes down to it, the
defensive metrics are what's so horrible for the New York
Rangers right now. Nineteen point six scoring chances against per sixty,
not really generating many much offense as well. Two point
three goals four per sixty for the New York Rangers,
hide danger chances against in their last ten six point
nine for the Columbus Blue Jackets. So when it comes
down to it, this New York Rangers team is battling
they're trying, you know, they're trying to go by their
leaders and stuff. But we saw over the weekend in
that game against the Pittsburgh Penguins, they still came out flat.
They still were down to nothing. They needed a shootout
to win. I still think the Columbus Blue Jackets are
probably the side to go with here, Karmen. Not to mention,
if it ain't broke, we won't try and fix it here.
It's still the New York Rangers at home. So I'll
go to you with this, Karma. How do we approach
this Columbus Blue Jackets team going into the break, they
were on an absolute red hot heater. Now they're zero
to two post Olympic break, but my data still says
that they're playing decent hockey and the New York Rangers
aren't really creating many chances right now. I still think
I want my money on the Columbus Blue Jackets. Not
sure if I'll get to the window quite yet with it.
Money actually has come in on the Rangers, surprisingly, But
you know, if you had to pick a side here, Karen,
wouldn't you want to take the side that's at least
going in the right direction.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would you know. I think the makeup of
the playoffs, Andrew is tough right now on Columbus because
if you look at the standings, you know, the standings
right now has been tenth place, sixty six points. The
Bruins hold down the technically hold down the final playoff spot,
but the Bruins don't actually have the final playoff spot
at eighty one points because three teams from the metro
have to make it in. So you have Carolina eighty
two points, you have the Pittsburgh Penguins at seventy five,
and you have the New York Andrews seventy five. So
instead of being five points back, they are actually nine
points back of a playoff spot. You're asking a team
to essentially make up nine points in twenty four games.
That's the task at hand for them, and I don't
know if they can do it. A couple losses out
of the gates after the All Star Break is not
a good thing for them. You know, the Rangers getting
to those games where they're just low scoring games at home,
and I think it's a product of them just not
being able to score at home on the road. They
have like going I think a top five record in
the Eastern Conference Rangers, but this game's at home. They
don't score much. There are benefactors of a Pittsburgh team
that blew a lead Number one, took a penalty at
the wrong time, gave the Islander sorry, gave the Rangers
life with a power play goal, and it's just sort
of steamrolled from there. The Penguins had that game under
control until they didn't. And that's why you can't take penalty.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: You look at this one, and as much as you
want to say you know Columbus has the better upside,
I don't think either team has an upside right now.
I think the task at hand for Columbuses is is
too tough. And you look at it. The Pittsburgh Penguins
aren't losing many games. The New York Islanders are definitely
not losing games, and Carolina aren't losing games. It's going
to be super tough for them to overcome nine points
to finishing one of the top three spots in the
metro and make the playoffs. With that said, I have
no idea what the island what the Rangers are doing
even winning games at this point, I think they're locked
into that Number two spot. Anyways, as far as the
worst record in the league, just ahead of Vancouver, I'm
going to take the Rangers at plus money at.
Speaker 2: Home Rangers, all right.
Speaker 1: And this is the thing, Car When you look at
this game, though, would you say that that correlates with
the under just because they're not generating many chances that
you're going to need a low scoring game. And I
don't mind being head to head a little, but I
feel like that would be correlated. Maybe I would even
just switch sides and just go on the under, because man,
I think I'm more confident in that than I am
and the Columbus Blue Jackets side could be a bit fishy.
But until the Rangers starts showing me some offense, I'm
just not ready to expect a high scoring game with them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you got to look at goaltending to
Andrew like I'm seeing right now. That Igor Sterkin is confirmed, obviously,
the good news for the Rangers is that sh Stirkin's back,
that Adam Fox is back, so at least they get
a couple of key pieces back to their lineup. Obviously,
too little, too late. Even if they came back fifteen
games ago, it would have been too little, too late,
And I'm seeing that Elvis is going to be in
the building tonight. He's expected to start for the Columbus
Blue Jackets tonight. We'll see closer to game time or
who the first goalie off the ice is. But you
look at as far as Columbus goes, this the first
of a back to back. They're at home against Nashville tomorrow,
and it's actually showing Elvis for both games, and then
it's showing Jeed Greaves for the following games for the
two games after that, the Thursday and Saturday games where
they're home to Florida and home to the Utah Mammoth.
So we'll see as far as goaltending goals who's in there.
But if it's Elvis, I would think it's a step
down as far as goalies go, because I preferred Jack Greaves.
I don't understand why, unless there's an injury to Jet
or something, why he wouldn't be in one of these
two games today or tomorrow. But we'll see once the
morning skate is done in New York what's reported. But
I think the Rangers at plus money. I would never
lay money with the Rangers, but you're not in this spot,
you're getting money with them. So with that said, I'll
go with the Rangers.
Speaker 1: All right, let's keep things going to Carolina and Seattle here, Karma,
this speaking of teams that have been on a roll
since the break. Here, this Carolina team's been looking pretty
damn good as of late. And I'll tell you they're
putting up goals, they're looking sharp. But hey, Seattle, they
just took down the Vancouver Canucks. The question I'm going
to ask you with this is how much do we
care at this point whenever any team beats the Vancouver Canucks?
How much do we even care that a team put
up five goals on the Vancouver Canucks on a Saturday
night does not even impact our handicap? And also, can
everybody make fun of me in the group chat right
now for not betting on the krack and against the
Canucks on Saturday?
Speaker 2: That was the easiest pick I could have made. Do
you care, Karr for that?
Speaker 1: I mean, Seattle beats them, puts up five goals, but
then again, it's the Vancouver Canucks.
Speaker 3: Right Yeah. If anyone hasn't been watching, I've been saying
I am going to fade Vancouver the rest of the season.
I'm just going to try and find ways of doing
it where I can bet against some weather in some
cases even taking the puck line. They're not a very
good team. Any team that's lost eighteen of the last
twenty games, and even more so going farther back than that,
how do you have any confidence in the team whatsoever?
You can't. How do you expect them that, hey, tonight's
their night, They're gonna get it done. They might get
it done, but you will not find me playing any
money on the Vancouver Canucks for the rest of the season.
With that said, you know, I mean the Kraken needed that.
A couple of bad games for them on the road
against Saint Louis in Dallas where they only scored a
goal in each game, so getting some of that scoring
back was important to them. They're still in that playoff hunt.
They're still right there Andrew to get into the playoffs.
And you know, the interesting thing is when you look
at that conference and of the reasons why I talked
to Brian Leonard about this on the last show and
we talked about the Vegas Golden Knights minus four thousand
to make the playoffs, but they were plus twenty two
hundred to miss the playoffs. And I said, let's see
how Vegas doesn't that road trip.
Speaker 2: Well, you look at.
Speaker 3: It, Seattle Andrew is on sixty five points with a
game in hand. They are only five points out, believe
it or not, for top spot in the Pacific. The
Pacific Division is separated four teams separated by five points.
Vegas was seventy Anaheim with sixty nine and winning games
go Ducks. The Edmonton Oilers loses four to the last
five sixty six points, and the Seattle Kraken with sixty
five points, and they Edmonton's played the most games of
those teams, two games on the sixty one games, two
games on Seattle, so Seattle gets to make up a
game year and possibly if the game goes to overtime,
they will overtake the Edmonton Otis for that spot. The
only problem is you have the Carolina Hurricanes coming to town,
who just can't seem to lose any games. Andrew, this
is another team that's on a roll and they're what
they're now two points up on the Tampa Bay Lightning
for first place in the Eastern Conference. So therein Liza thing,
the problem is They are seventh on the road this season,
fifteen and eleven on the road, only scoring seventy nine
goals only allowing sixty nine, so a plus ten goal differential.
But they're not as dominant on the road as they
have been at home. Forty eight of their points have
come on home ice this season for Carolina thirty four
on the road. Do the Krack can have a chance
to win tonight? I ain't. They could upset them tonight
plus one fifty four. It doesn't seem like a bad
price for a home dog who came back from a
bad road trip. Andrew and did what they had to do.
They beat a bad team, and they beat them the
way you're supposed to beat them, convincingly. If they had
won that game three to two, it might be a
little worried that there's something wrong with the Seattle team.
The Kracking are live here tonight on a day after
dogs won pretty much every game yesterday with the exception
of the last one. The dog is wild here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We talk a lot about, you know, the freaky Friday,
but I think yesterday it was freaky Sunday. Like you said,
Karen off the top, it was a weird day. Dogs unders.
You know, for me, I'll say I just like the
under in this game. You know, Carolina's shot suppression.
Speaker 2: Is just so good.
Speaker 1: You know, they're so good at keeping teams out of
their own end. Their transition game is strong. They don't
really make their goalies have to be stressed whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Their goalies never have to worry about anything.
Speaker 1: And I feel like against this team where the Seattle Kraken,
they don't honestly create that many offensive chances. One of
those teams that capitalizes on any chance that they get,
they have a strong shooting percentage. So when I look
at this matchup overall, there are some sixes over there,
I'm tempted by the under here.
Speaker 2: You know, back to back games, I kind of like
the unders.
Speaker 1: You know, Seattle putting up five goals, and the reason
why I went to Karm by saying, how much do
we care about about that? You know, because as Karm said,
it's the Vancouver Canucks, So how much do we really
care that they scored five goals against the Vancouver Canucks.
As for the Carolina Hurricanes, they actually scored five goals
and both of their games back so far since the break,
Both of those games were at home though, so we'll
see how they do on the road. But if you
can get the six, I think for me it's worth
a little bit of a sprinkle on the under. But
we'll see, Karl. I don't have it in front of me,
but I'm curious the Hurricanes road in the home splits.
We know how great of a home team they are,
but i'd have to imagine they score a little bit
less on the road as well, So that bodes well
for you as well for me as well.
Speaker 2: So I'll rock with the under in this game.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if i'll watch it, because it's
not always fun to watch unders, but I do like fun.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: The problem always is always Andrew. You know, it's sports betters.
Unless you want to delve into like the numbers and statistics,
you're just kind of looking. You go, Carolina's rolling, They're
going to go into Seattle and beat them. And if
you took that attitude yesterday, and even though I had
a couple of favorites yesterday, I did not take that
attitude because it's to the teams I took were rolling,
but they were in positions where you know, the other
teams were playing back to back third and four nights,
and it seemed like a good spot that didn't turn
out to be a good spot. These scenes played once
the game was played in Carolina. Carolina wins that game
three to two. If you look at the postgame analytics,
see the extreme that game was three point one eight
to one point eight one, so essentially three to two
on the analytics. They played exactly to the numbers postgame
high danger chances, shots on goal. So the Kraken went
into into Carolina, where the Canes are super tough to beat,
and played a very good game against them, came up
on the wrong end. The venue switch now is here,
and as I mentioned, the Canes aren't as good on
the road, seventh best in the East as opposed to
one of the best records, if not the best record
at home in the East, and the best record overall
in the East. And I just think that this is
a game in which it's a meaningful game to Seattle
as well too. If they were on the outside, far
on the outside looking in, it might be a game
of desperation. I think it's a game in which they're
going to try and play a tight game, keep it
little scoring, and try and reverse reverse that score line
they win three to two, or game ghosts overtime, they
pick up a point, possibly two. They are going to
be happy against a top notch team like the Carolina Hurricanes.
So I'll stick my neck out and take the Kraken.
Speaker 2: All right. I like it. I like it. Carmine, Carmine
the dog bounty hunter? Is that what you? Is that
what you are?
Speaker 3: You're the Andrew before before we get onto the next game.
I gotta put this up because I don't want to
give this guy a hard time. But Josh says talking
about the Sabers are gonna get bounced in the first
round because they're playing the goalie is playing over their heads.
Obviously he hasn't watched the game the Sabers play this
season because it's not about their goaltending. Even though the
goaltenders are playing well. You have some goaltenders on the
Sabers who save percentage is under nine hundred. And the
Sabers are winning because they are playing the Lindy Roughs
style that he wanted him to play, what he wanted
New Jersey to play. They move the puck, they move
it quickly, They move it to a man where I
can't get intercepted in their defensive zone. They clear their
defensive zone, giving teams vary to little O zone time.
You know what that does, It makes a little easier
on the goalies. You know what that does, It wins
games Against a team like the Tampa Bay Lightning. They
dominated the game and that was their defenseman and their
forwards dominating the game, not the goalie. So I am
going to disagree with that comment, Josh, regardless of how
the first round ends, I am going to disagree with
that comment because the Sabers goalies. And I said it
all year Andrew. With the Sabers goalies, I thought they
would have to get rid of one of them because
they couldn't go to a three goalie system. And it
just looks like it's going to be Alex Lyon and
Uko Pekaluknin as a two goal I don't think we're
gonna see unless it's at the end of the year
to give these guys a bit of arrest. I don't
think we're going to see Colton Ellis again uh in
a Sabers uniform this season.
Speaker 1: So is he gonna play in the minors or are
they just rocking the three system right now.
Speaker 3: I think I think they give him some time in
Rochester because you've got you have to keep him sharpened.
In the event that the guy gets injured or someone
gets injured, you have to have him here and readily
available to get into a game. So those are my thoughts.
As far as you know that goes so Josh dot
to give you a hard time, those are my thoughts.
Opinions are like belly buttons. We all have them. So
we all have them and they all look different. You
ever seen John John Stamos's belly button. I remember seeing
it on like a he showed it on like an
addition of mean tweets or something like that on the
Tonight Shore or whatever, and where someone tweeted, He's got
the ugliest belly button and then he raises the shirt
was the belly button and he goes like, yeah, the
guy's got a point. So whatever, we got to get
on far, We've.
Speaker 1: Got a lot of teams that are in the playoffs
this year that weren't in the playoffs last year.
Speaker 2: So far, like a lot of teams.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of teams that were we're out of
the playoffs last year that didn't even have a chance
to make it. And now we've got a change of
a guard. So it's really interesting to You've got Toronto,
you've got Ottawa, you've got Florida in the east, a
lot of teams you know, on the outside looking in,
and same goes for the West as well. Before we
move on, I just want to bring up a couple
little things we have going on here, Karm, some great,
great deals right now at wager Talk.
Speaker 2: Buy three, get three free.
Speaker 1: You can't mess up this deal here, six days for
sixty nine dollars. Yes, wager talk seems to love these
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Speaker 2: Six days.
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I've got to play going at two pm Eastern four
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really good run. I think it's like over a plus
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right now. And there's also this deal going on, and
this is for the big time players, for the guys
that want to get in long term, all in for
the year, ultimate all access pass. This is under four
dollars a day. So between Carmine and between myself, we
handicap sports all year long. You know, I would say
this package itself, the all year access is gonna worth
it enough for Carmine just for the World Cup with
how many plays you'll get from him. But you know,
for me, I've got hockey, you've got basketball, We've got UFC.
Then you go to the summer, I've got baseball, I've
got CFL profitable in both those sports. Under four dollars
a day, it's a pretty good way of making money
if you guys are interested in the long term. I
always say, car with these packages, people are going to
be buying plays, They're going to be betting each day.
Speaker 2: So if you're planning on buying.
Speaker 1: Plays, this deal is a hell of a lot cheaper
than spending twenty five bucks on a regular four percent pick.
Speaker 2: It's a much better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, it's a great deal because it's like five
hundred dollars off. I believe something along those lines or whatever.
They have a great deal that's going on at WAG
you're talking. You can always get in touch with the
office as well too. But obviously college football for me,
and I had a phenomenal college football season. NFL always
do great in the NFL, NHL. You at the end
of the season and the start of next season with
that one year of course the World Cup, and then
they're soccer pretty much three in yours six days a year.
So just a ton of sport for me. The only
ones I don't do, guys, is basketball, and it's the
it's the old thing of staying your lane. I don't
watch it, I don't bet it, I don't handicap it,
So why would I ever tell you to bet it.
So that's the only sport, that's the only sport that
I don't do. But a great deal. I'm looking forward
to it. And even that three day plus three day deal,
you're gonna get six days. I have a five percent
play that will be up in the NHL for tomorrow
night after today's show. But two games in soccer today
and two games in NHL already loaded for clients. And yes, Andrew,
I've been cooking in the NHL, but yesterday I burnt
the steaks. So well, let's get back. Let's get back
to this one. Speaking of steaks, this coach wins a
game and they crucify him at the Steak Hiller five
from the LA Kings after a to nothing win over
the Calgary Flames. Andrew Steak in Flames. That's got There's
got to be some joke in there somehow. Colorado minus
one seventy five Kings plus one two five naps to
total here, Andrew, are the Kings a seller? I'm gonna
ask you that question. And do you think they still
have a chance to make the NHL playoffs?
Speaker 2: No? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think they I think they trade for paneren and
you watch Fiala get injured at the Olympics, you watch
Kuzmenko get injured, and you're gonna ask yourselves, you know,
what the hell was the point of us trading for
Panerin At this point, at least they've got some someone
that can help put fans in the seats.
Speaker 2: But I'm not really sure, Karl.
Speaker 1: I've looked long and hard at this game, and I'm
gonna tell you, I think this might just be a
player prop game for me for the most part. But
I think you have to ask yourself. The coaches bump,
we love talking about it. The coaches bump can be
so live and it's so hard to not even look
at it right now because of how successful the coach's
bump angle has been. DJ Smith takes over as the
head coach. People have been calling for Hillary to lose
his job for months, not even weeks. People thought Hillary
should lose his job a long long time ago. But
I can't stop thinking about when Teddy Covers says in
the NBA, when a team is dead, they're dead, don't
try and revive them. And that's how I feel a
little bit about this La Kings team.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: So when I look at this game, if sometimes when
a coach gets fired, you think they're gonna respond defensively.
Every player wants to work hard to impress the new coach.
Every player gets a little bit of a wake up
call and they take it personally when their head coach
gets fired. But Carl, I can't see them, you know,
refraining this Colorado offense from scoring some goals.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 1: So I've been kind of a totals guy mostly today,
but I like the over. I can't see LA prohibiting
Colorado from flexing their muscles and scoring a few goals
on them.
Speaker 2: I can't see it. So we'll see.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's the best course of action for
LA is to try and make this a good defensive battle.
But as far as the coaching bump is concerned, maybe
it will help them score some goals, but I'm not
sure it helps them defense. Can you imagine what worse
of a team to play after you fire your coach
than call it up? Could they not wait until after
this game at least to fire their coach?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. The the problem here is and we
could very well see some line movement today in this
one is I believe the Kings could be a seller
at this point. I don't think you should go out
and try and find someone just because of the Fiola injury.
But there's a lot more that's wrong with this team
than is right with this team. Andrew and even the
coach's bump doesn't make sense to me as it pertains
to the l Kings because it's just an interim coach
right now for them, and you know they're going to
name their coach in the offseason. I have to believe.
But you have things in player last game against Calgary,
arm and Drew Dowdy did not play. They were both
in the press box, both injured. You have to wait
and see what the status is of those two guys.
As far as today goes, you have Darcy comfort the goalie.
Does he start today. Some places are showing that he
is going to start, but some places had him that
he has an illness. The illness is maybe that in
the last two games he's allowed eight goals in four
periods of play. He was pulled in the last game
after allowing four and twenty six minutes against the Edmonton Otters.
Eight goals in four periods of play. You can only
blame so much on the team in front of you.
Sometimes the goalie has to take a position there as
well too, So we'll see if he's in goal for
them tonight as well too. He could be on the move,
could very very easily move Darcy Comfort, even though he's
allowed eight goals in four periods of play to a
team that is looking for a goalie in the for
the final push. Because yet, let's remember, Darcy Comfort did
win a Stanley Cup. Okay, yes it was with the
Colorado Avalanche, but they'll still win a Stanley Cup. There's
no way I ain't taking the La Kings at plus
one forty two. You would have to give me a
hell of a lot more. I wouldn't even take a
sportsbook boost where they said we're gonna give you sixty
percent more. It might be a player pop game, Andrew,
as you mentioned, I think could be the right way
to go here. I say you keep an eye on
this line. I say you keep an eye on what
moves are coming out, because if the Kings line all
of a sudden starts to shoot to plus one fifty
plus one fifty five plus one sixty, that means that
there's gonna be some guys that are being held out
of the lineup pending some some trade clearances. So we'll
see what happens there.
Speaker 1: And you're right about this direction of the La Kings
karm because it's very difficult for them because they've made
the playoffs every year, but then they lost to the
Edmonton Oilers, and now the question that going in injured,
they don't really know where they are, you fire their
head coach. I mean, the Florida Panthers have dominated the
Edmonton Oilers. The Edmonton Oilers have dominated the LA Kings,
like the Oilers are so happy to have faced the
Kings early on in the in the playoffs every year.
And now the Kings were starting to stack up. They
had Pinera and they had Fiallo, they had Kuzmenko, they
had Kempe and now the injury bug gets them the
you know, the coaching now getting fired. So it's tough
for them right now, Karm. I think, and I'm very curious,
as you know, I love the coaching stuff, and you know,
seeing if thing get momentum off, and I'm going to
be following it, and for all of you guys watching
the show, you know, I'm going to be sitting here
complaining about how I didn't take it. If LA wins
three to two tonight. But as Carr mentioned, Car, I
just don't think that price is good enough. It just
doesn't seem like a good enough number to get behind it.
Really doesn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Andrew, listen, we can talk till we're blue in
the face about you know, this game and not want
to take the Kings because the price, like you said,
is not right. And you know, at the end of
the day, the Kings could surprise Colorado and beat them tonight.
Upsets happened on any given day. We saw it yesterday
with a bunch of teams Chicago in Utah shutting them out.
You know what I mean, The dog does win games.
That's what establishes the market, is that not everybody is
on one side. You need people on both sides to
have a market. So, you know, but with that said,
just not the right price for me. I just think
there's more bad things than good things happening right now
for the La Kings. And Colorado has the Dallas Stars
who set a franchise record eight wins and coming back
against your Nashville Predators eight wins, a franchise record, and
they are breathing down Colorado's throats for that number one,
number one seed, not only overall, but number one in
the division. It's amazing that the top three teams I
think are in the division Minnesota, Minnesota, Colorado and the
Dallas Stars, and they're all in that in that central
division and.
Speaker 1: As far as the other division is concerned, Car, I
saw a pretty crazy tweet about the Golden Knights. You
were talking about the Golden Knights earlier, what you talked
about with with Brian Leonard Vegas. Last time Vegas beat
a team currently in a playoff spot.
Speaker 2: Guess how long ago it's been? November twentieth. Yeah, isn't
that correct?
Speaker 3: And unfortunately for them, Unfortunately for them and for him
as well to Mark Stone was injured in that last
game against the Washington Capitals where they lose three to two,
so he could be missing for a while as well too.
We'll have to see what his status is sort of
moving forward. But I'm just looking at the updated odds
and the plus. Remember I did say that if it
wasn't a good road trip for the Vegas Golden Knights,
that plus twenty two hundred would be gone and it
would be plus fifteen hundred. Currently at DraftKings, Vegas to
miss the playoffs is plus fifteen hundred, So I've nailed
that price right now. They still have a couple of
toughies to go on this road trip. We'll see how
they fare. But yeah, a couple more losses for them
before they head home, and they haven't been solid at
home all season long. They're basically a five hundred team,
give or take a couple percentage points if there's if
they continue to miss players and injuries. I don't know
if if I told you, if I made a statement
on this show a month ago that the Vegas Golden
Knights were going to miss the playoffs or had a
chance to miss the playoffs, you guys would have had
me committed to some hospital with a white with one
of those white vests, has me like this or whatever.
But with that said, who knows. We'll see. Let's give
it a week and then we'll revisit.
Speaker 2: This video again.
Speaker 1: Those teams, the Hurricanes twice, the Red Wings once, and
the Mammoth. Those are the only wins that Vegas have
against teams currently in a playoff position. That is shocking
that I did not realize that if you look at it,
because think about it, think about some of the wins
that they've had that you can think off the top
of your head, and all those wins were against teams
that weren't in the playoffs. Hey, good for them. You
beat the Maple Leafs twice. The Maple Leafs suck this year.
You know, it's not like they're beating good teams.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, Andrew, that's the thing, you know what
I mean? And I know that the Knights aren't in
action tonight. I think they play tomorrow. I'm pretty sure
they play tomorrow. But let me just have a quick
look just to mention what I did before. So right
now they're fourth with seventy points, but like I said,
they are essentially five points below. They could be five.
They're just five points above the line. But when you
look at the Vegas Golden Knight's schedule, and again I'm
not saying they're gonna miss the playoffs. I just say
that there's value in taking plus twenty two hundred and
still some value in plus fifteen hundred. They play the
Sabers tomorrow night. Then they play the Detroit Red Wings,
two teams that are in the playoffs. They come home
to face Minnesota, the third best team overall. They play
the Edmonton Oiters, the Dallas Star and then the Pittsburgh Penguins,
were in a playoff spot, come to town the Chicago Blackhawks.
Then they play the sabers Utah let's finish off the
their season. Dallas, Winnipeg, Edmonton, Washington, a FREEB against Vancouver,
probably a FREEB against the Flames. The Edmonton Orders once again,
Seattle Kracken, Colorado, Winnipeg Jets. Seattle cracking interesting schedule for them,
to say the least, they're gonna have to play much
better than they're playing right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see if, like many things change, because I
think this year in the playoffs is gonna be really interesting.
The last thing I'll say is this, though, Carve. You
know how sometimes when things are really competitive and then
all of a sudden the playoffs started, and it ends
up just being the chalk that wins, Like if people
haven't gotten their Tampa Bay Lightning futures in so they
just be doing that right now. Because you look at
the East, like the East has been fun, it's been competitive,
but who's eating Tampa in a seven game series? You know,
you look across it, there's so many opportunities in the
West and the East right now for depth and for
upset teams and lesser teams to do well. But then
sometimes you always say that the cream rises to the
top and as much as we might see some of
these new teams make the playoffs, maybe we end up
just seeing your Tampa Bay and Colorado or your Tampa
Bay and you know, Minnesota or whoever it might be
all along.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, And this is it. The regular season
just sets up. It's an eighty two game preseason for
the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's what it is.
Speaker 3: I have no illusions of grandeur when Andrew, when it
comes to the Buffalo Sabers, I'm just happy that for
the first time since like twenty eleven, I think it is,
they're going to make the playoffs.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: They make the playoffs. If they get bounced in the
first round, Okay, well they made the playoffs. You know
what I mean. I see it every year. If you're
a fan of any team from Buffalo, you should never
get excited. The Buffalo Bills have proven that each and
every year. It's the playoffs that matter. And like you said,
the cream rises to the top. And you're going to
expect teams in the playoffs like Carolina who are absolutely
dominated at home, Tampa Bay. Once Vaskoleski is in Vassilevski
playoff for him and they and Tampa has all of
their guys, Brandon point, everyone going for them. They're going
to be super tough to beat as well too. And
the case can be made for a team like Tampa
Bay if they win the Atlantic Andrew that it is
a much easier it's a much easier road to the
conference finals for them than in any of their Stanley
Cup seasons because it's normally been Tampa, Toronto, Boston, Tampa, Toronto, Florida.
Those teams are not there. They're not going to make
the playoffs, so they're not playing against teams that they
could get a Sabers team, they could get a Detroit team,
they could get a Montreal team, teams that aren't used
to being there. So Tampa in a seven game series,
with the experience that they have, are are likely going
to make it to the conference finals. And then you
got a team like Carolina, So it's shaping up that way.
We always hope that someone throws a monkey wrench into
the wheel, but we shall see. And then in Colorado Dallas,
you know, good goalies, good teams, they can score, then
they can they'll win games. And you throw in Minnesota
there into that mix as well too, So.
Speaker 2: We again we can't forget about Carolina.
Speaker 1: Like Carolina, maybe this is finally their year because Rod
Brendamore we said it last year together on puck Time.
It's it's one thing if you always make it to
the playoffs, or if you always win one round, but
nobody really cares if you have the same success every
single time. So look forward to following it though. We'll
keep you guys posted with all the playoff info. We
got a three leg same game parlay here for today guys.
For those of you watching, I'll just mention my best
bet of the day is in the early game two
pm Eastern start Detroit and Nashville. I will have plays
moving forward on the later slate, but my best bet,
favorite play of the day is on that two pm
Eastern game. Nathan McKinnon anytime goalscorer. Look, I don't like
to bet the chalk very often. I do like it
today minus one oh five. The guy is shooting, the
guys getting a lot of chances, and his ice time
is super high.
Speaker 2: Martin Nach has three plus shots on goal. Are Temmy
panerin the Breadman three plus shots on goal. This takes
us to a nice plus four fifteen. I like it.
Speaker 1: You know, I think that McKinnon will find the back
of the net against this LA Kings team. The way
he's been playing right now, Natus has been having a
high shot volume, and Panerin is a guy that right now,
when there's no not that many bright spots for the
LA Kings, at least he has been a bright spot
for this team. We'll look for at least three shots
on goal from him. That takes us to a nice
plus four or fifteen here. And I'll just throw this
out here again. Guys, buy three, get three, six days
for just sixty nine dollars. I'm on a really good
run right now with college basketball side plays. He went
two to zero on Saturday with college basketball plays. We
passed the board yesterday. We'll be back on track tonight
with college basketball, and yesterday we crushed it with the NHL,
and we're on a plus twenty two unit run. So
do not buy daily picks if you're looking to buy
picks ever from a handicapper. Three days at the minimum,
in my opinion, and this will get you buying three
days and get three days for free, six days for
sixty nine dollars. Back over to you, Carl.
Speaker 3: Well, that's interesting, Andrew. I was just looking while you
were going through that. I was just having a quick
look at the LA Kings make miss the playoffs. They
are minus one fifty to make the playoffs, and they
are plus one point thirty to miss the playoffs. And
I don't know, I'm not sure what they're doing at
this trade deadline, but it is interesting that price, given
the fact that they're on the outside looking in. But
if you look at their schedule, you know, maybe they
will be a buyer at the trade deadline, because if
you look at their schedule and let me just have
a quick look here, as I mentioned, they have the
lowest strength to schedule the rest of the way at
five twenty nine fifteen games, fifteen games at home, eleven away.
That was right after the Olympic break. But here's the thing, Andrew.
They play they play Vancouver three more times, they play
Calgary twice. They're playing and they have another game I
think against a couple against San Jose, and they play
the Rangers, a couple of bottom dwellers, Rangers in New
Jersey in the Eastern Conference. They have like nine games
against teams that are nowhere near at playoff point of view,
would you if they make a trade today, would you
take them at minus one fifty and make the playoffs.
I'm interested. I'm staying off of it, but I got
to ask you what your opinion is.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, Carl. I don't think I can
do it. Indeed, what would have to move the needle
for you? Like who would have to be brought in.
Speaker 3: If they finished their schedule? Interesting enough, these are their
last five games of the season when they're looking to
make the playoffs. Vancouver, they're home to Vancouver, They're home
to Edmonton, They're at Seattle, They're at Vancouver, They're at Calgary.
You would think at least three victories mixed in there.
They have another game against Vancouver and Calgary ahead of
that games against Vancouver and Calgary. The problem is, it's
our next few games that matter the Colorado tonight, the
New York Islanders are in town on Thursday, and then
they have the Montreal Canadians coming in, and then they're
on a East coast trip where they're going to be playing.
If they play, Let's have a look here at Columbus
at Boston, at New York Islanders at New Jersey, Devils
at the Rangers before coming home to face the Flyers
and Sabers. So I don't know. I thought I would
throw it out there. But in keeping with that, guys,
our Friday pod play came in Buffalo Sabers at even
money this pod play. If you're watching this after two o'clock,
then you made a mistake because the pod play is
this afternoon. Andrew, let's get that pod play up on
the screen for me. Please, today's pod play. I am
taking the over in the two o'clock game. Now, why
is the two game two o'clock game being played? Like
we mentioned earlier, it's kind of like the Global Series
without the travel. The game is at two o'clock in Smashville,
and they are going to be broadcasting this game throughout
Europe in those countries like Finland, Sweden, Germany where they
would normally play some of those Global Series games. Give
the NHL some more exposure with some stars on the ice,
and there's guys on both teams that can score goals
in this one. These teams played in Detroit earlier this season.
It was an absolute goalfest, up and down six to
three for the Preds in Detroit. I think Detroit gets
a measurer revenge here in a higher scoring affair, we're
going over six minus one twenty as your pod play.
Speaker 1: Over six and Karen, I'll make it clear for everybody
watching again that you are not on the Red Wings.
You are on the over, because if someone glances at
that graphic without squid, they think.
Speaker 3: That the Detroit team total is six, and they might
not want to be betting at all, but it.
Speaker 1: Is over both teams. That is, that is a comfy
looking jacket. I will say, that's a comfy looking yeah
that you got on there in that graphic.
Speaker 3: I h the image is in red, but I expect
it to be all green tomorrow and all right, all green.
So I'll throw out a prediction. How does this sound?
Andrew five three for the Detroit Red Wings today. Let's
keep the office happy that their Red Wings are winning
games five to three Detroit. I don't know what the
exact score line on that game would be Andrew at
five to three, but I could look it up for you,
because that's just the kind of stuff I love to do.
But let's see correct score including overtime. Detroit to win
what I say, five to three, that price is thirty
to one, thirty to one on Detroit to win. You
know how much pizza that would buy.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of the kind of pizza that you like.
The arm a little bit less than the pizza I have.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: So there it is over six. Some of these guys
think it was the wings, but no, it's over six
minus one twenty. Let's get some goals in that one
Andrew two soccer plays for me. First one goals at
twelve thirty. So you guys got half an hour, grab that,
grab it one day all access. You can grab that
three days, get three days free package, or come along
for the whole year. I am going to have a
winning twenty twenty six, or I will grow all of
my hair back on my head for next year's pluck time.
How is that for a challenge?
Speaker 2: All right, all right, we'll get to seek karm with
some hair.
Speaker 1: We'll get to see karme with marit So soccer action
this afternoon, carm hockey action for me. College basketball action tonight.
Let's win the day, guys, Let's win the monday. Let's
have a great one that will do it for a
puck time Always fun when it's just the two of
us back with guests for the rest of the week.
I do believe we'll see you guys next time, same time,
same place, right here on wager Talk TV.