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Speaker 2: Word but uh, this week, So this week we're gonna
Speaker 2: jump back into news articles. We haven't done a lot
Speaker 2: of news updates lately, So we really want to just
Speaker 2: jump in and talk about what's going on in the community. Dave,
Speaker 2: he doesn't talk about the first one to get us
Speaker 2: launched off. I'll chime in for a second, but I'm
Speaker 2: gonna rip some bop gun that I got from Cannaby,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 3: I think we're jumping into Arizona in the school, right, yes, there,
Speaker 3: all right, So Arizona University of Arizona's gonna have a
Speaker 3: cannabis cannabis school. And the reason why I want to
Speaker 3: talk about this is because we're starting to see more
Speaker 3: and more schooling for cannabis, which I think is which
Speaker 3: I think is good, right, because you're gonna have people
Speaker 3: and be like, oh, you don't need you don't need
Speaker 3: schooling for cannabis, right. I was in cannabis for twenty
Speaker 3: years and I've known all about it. Yeah true, But nowadays,
Speaker 3: with it becoming legal, you're getting more researched on the
Speaker 3: schools are gonna be training on the plant and probably
Speaker 3: turn into a retail experience. We need this the schooling
Speaker 3: in my mind, to help continue to push the industry forward, right,
Speaker 3: because like, well, if you don't, you're gonnaet a bunch
Speaker 3: of people at displayed to say everything's fire. You're gonna
Speaker 3: think in society, you're not gonna get innovation. You're not
Speaker 3: gonna get innovation without schooling and without education and learning.
Speaker 3: Think about the ros and how it's fucking catapulted for
Speaker 3: for dabads in the last three years, right right. Think
Speaker 3: about some of different growing techniques that we see for cultivators,
Speaker 3: from your soil to rock well to hydro to aeroponics
Speaker 3: to all this. You people talk about this, you do
Speaker 3: education on it. You're gonna see new and new stuff
Speaker 3: continue to happen. I think, I think it's big. It's
Speaker 3: great to see Arizona doing it. Michigan up started started
Speaker 3: doing it a couple of years ago, right, and we knew,
Speaker 3: we knew, got one of our friends, which Ohio and
Speaker 3: did it. So it's like we're seeing it go and
Speaker 3: this is good to see it. I didn't mean to
Speaker 3: cut you off, groovy.
Speaker 2: So, oh, you're totally cool, And no, you had some great,
Speaker 2: great points. I'm just gonna I just wanted to stay
Speaker 2: like kind of with where we're at in society as
Speaker 2: a whole. With cannabis. It's so new, it's such a
Speaker 2: new industry regardless, Like, definitely, obviously we have some like
Speaker 2: people who like know cannabis from throughout the years of
Speaker 2: growing knowing the plant, but that, like you said, the
Speaker 2: education is still so new. It's great to see it
Speaker 2: pop up around, especially in Arizona. You're seeing two schools.
Speaker 2: You know, you're seeing u of a University of Arizona,
Speaker 2: but also a smaller community college in Marsupa County which
Speaker 2: shout out that's where I was actually born, Gateway Community College.
Speaker 2: I was actually born in Phoenix, Arizona, although I was
Speaker 2: six by the time I was in Michigan, so I'm
Speaker 2: a Michiganer through and through. But it is really cool
Speaker 2: to see, you know, them across the nation doing things
Speaker 2: like this with education. Absolutely, like it's a six month
Speaker 2: and a three week wait, a six month of three
Speaker 2: nine week certificate programs at the community college and the
Speaker 2: University of Arizona. I believe his partner offers a few
Speaker 2: certificates as well, so it's pretty neat. So it just
Speaker 2: it's starting to pop up and you know, and like
Speaker 2: we you know, when we're at at hardeen, right, You're
Speaker 2: starting to see cannabis companies who really care on that
Speaker 2: next level, like Hardeen shout out, Britney shot out, the
Speaker 2: whole team that care on that next level. We're gonna
Speaker 2: we're gonna make our own development program and we're gonna
Speaker 2: make our people past this so we can provide education, right,
Speaker 2: I feel like, And then now they were talking about
Speaker 2: bringing it online. So I think like beginning with schools
Speaker 2: and don't be wrong, schooling is great, but I even
Speaker 2: think some of these like places that specialize in cannabis,
Speaker 2: those certifications will be just as valuable. Right, So I
Speaker 2: think we're seeing this transition of from no education to
Speaker 2: online education to now even like in school education. So
Speaker 2: it's super cool, Like we're in a really new spot,
Speaker 2: like you said, and that innovation is so key. Oh
Speaker 2: I lost you for some reason.
Speaker 3: Wherever it happens, it's gonna beneficial, it's gonna continue, it's
Speaker 3: going to continue to continue to grow for sure.
Speaker 2: He just played that off like he's like do do
Speaker 2: do do eat? Usually he'd be like, wasn't me man, Like,
Speaker 2: wasn't me one too ful feet? My na will always
Speaker 2: hit me with the one.
Speaker 3: Me muting myself. Wasn't me got you.
Speaker 2: On the camera.
Speaker 3: It wasn't me. That's funny, saw me hitting the pause,
Speaker 3: but wasn't. But what I well, I was saying, No,
Speaker 3: what I don't know what I was saying, honestly, I.
Speaker 2: Just we were talking about education programs and like you,
Speaker 2: I didn't hear the first like sentence or two because
Speaker 2: you were muted, so that's why I laughed. But no,
Speaker 2: I was just talking about like hard I was seeing
Speaker 2: other education programs and stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just saying it's big to continue to have
Speaker 3: this happening because we're gonna see more and more states
Speaker 3: which education. I think it's only gonna help industry grow.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to hurt the industry at all.
Speaker 3: And I think that the small programs, the ones that
Speaker 3: aren't school affiliated, like you said with Hardin and stuff,
Speaker 3: I think is awesome because education is what we're.
Speaker 2: Lacking in though, like I mean, I'm not speaking to
Speaker 2: all blood tenders because there's a lot of great bud
Speaker 2: tenders out there, but no, but I'm talking about yeah,
Speaker 2: research absolutely because like you said, staying up on the
Speaker 2: innovation and like with all the innovation certificates need to
Speaker 2: keep coming out because it's going to be updated all
Speaker 2: the time. Right, but also like, oh it's got a
Speaker 2: weird text. Shoot, I lost my train of thought now.
Speaker 2: But oh the education, it's just so it's so needed
Speaker 2: right now because we're in this like you knows, new age,
Speaker 2: new infant, Yeah, exactly, because right now there is no
Speaker 2: standard of education. So sometimes people expect certain things at
Speaker 2: a certain bud tenders when at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: it's just like their new job, like they can't be
Speaker 2: the best, you know what I mean. Like it there's
Speaker 2: such a very ranging and knowledge of cambus right now.
Speaker 2: Right there's people who are just getting jobs that know
Speaker 2: point of sale because that's what they need, and there's
Speaker 2: people who've been like in this since the medical days.
Speaker 2: There's just a range of education. So some type of
Speaker 2: not necessarily standard, I guess, but just some type of
Speaker 2: like I guess it is standard, some type of education
Speaker 2: for almost like every budtender. Everything would be nice because
Speaker 2: you kind of want that standard as a customer. You
Speaker 2: want them to more knowledgeable, you know, than you or
Speaker 2: you know, not just bud tenders, but anyone in working
Speaker 2: in the industry.
Speaker 3: They want them to have some type of cannabis experience, right.
Speaker 3: But also.
Speaker 2: There was nothing available, and you know you're.
Speaker 3: Not going to see a standard though. I don't think
Speaker 3: for years. I just think it's good that they're having
Speaker 3: to implement these schools in there, and these like smaller
Speaker 3: craft ones like the one in Ohio or Buddy Win too,
Speaker 3: and then Hardin's a little bit smaller too, like those
Speaker 3: are more smaller knit, and I think those are huge
Speaker 3: because you're right, you're by passing on the education, you're
Speaker 3: only going to help make everyone better in the industry, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's what we're trying to do, is make the industry
Speaker 3: continue to grow and be one of the most productive
Speaker 3: industries in the United States maybe the world. Do you
Speaker 3: know when you're talking about dollars sold, any think about
Speaker 3: it's gonna be I don't know the market for cannabis
Speaker 3: when it ends, like when if it opens the borders
Speaker 3: and we're distributed across the world, like it's gonna be billions.
Speaker 2: And billions of billions of dollars ina sectors.
Speaker 3: No, I know, it's probably gonna be like one hundred
Speaker 3: to five hundred billions.
Speaker 2: You can't even think about it because it's not something
Speaker 2: we've even come doing. We don't even have safe banking it.
Speaker 2: We don't have a trillion dollars. Oh probably, You're probably right.
Speaker 2: I always think that it would be such a great
Speaker 2: thing to export, you know what I mean. But like anyways,
Speaker 2: but the whole point about the education, I'm glad to see,
Speaker 2: and you're absolutely right there probably won't be a standard
Speaker 2: for a long time. But this is how these are
Speaker 2: the first steps people start creating education, people start talking
Speaker 2: about it because it's just like anything, right, It's just
Speaker 2: like how the medical markets or the metric markets all
Speaker 2: started popping up, I mean, legal recreational markets, because they
Speaker 2: just kind of like pick and choose, Oh this work,
Speaker 2: this didn't work, this works, you know, this doesn't work.
Speaker 2: So they're just we're learning. So anyway's super cool, super
Speaker 2: cool to see. I will definitely keep you updated on
Speaker 2: more stuff like that.
Speaker 3: So absolutely absolutely what hit me with article number dolls?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Minnesota? Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to pull the Minnesota Psychic urges lawmakers to
Speaker 3: decriminalize psilocybin mushrooms.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's the Minnesota Psychedelic Task Force is kind
Speaker 2: of what the articles about, which I never heard of before.
Speaker 2: So just to talk about a little bit, they don't
Speaker 2: do anything with legislation directly, but they they take recommend
Speaker 2: they give recommendations to legislator lawmakers to help pass legislation.
Speaker 2: And the Minnesota Psychedelic Medicine Task Force is purely advisory.
Speaker 2: It's like I was saying, but what's really fascinating about it.
Speaker 2: This is all established through a bill that was signed
Speaker 2: in through Tim Waltz, which is their governor governor and
Speaker 2: last may governor in last May, that the group is
Speaker 2: responsible for advising state lawmakers on the legal, medicinal and
Speaker 2: policy issues associated with legalization of psychedelic medicine in the state,
Speaker 2: and it was charged with returning with a final report
Speaker 2: to the state with findings and recommendations by January first.
Speaker 2: So it's like, this isn't just like a task force
Speaker 2: that's gonna help, Like like these aren't just like a
Speaker 2: bunch of random people just like pushing mushrooms because they
Speaker 2: like mushrooms. These are people who are actually like very
Speaker 2: like they're educated, they've been around it, and they're actually
Speaker 2: advising these lawmakers on it. So it's very interesting what
Speaker 2: Minnesota's doing here. And they already asked for the information,
Speaker 2: they've been working you know, since May. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: I think it's no idea too.
Speaker 3: And they're going for MDMA as well as psilocybin and LSD,
Speaker 3: so it is psilocybin, but they're also going for MDMA
Speaker 3: and LSD.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why they call psychedelic medicine, I think is
Speaker 2: why they went by that.
Speaker 3: But you know, yeah, So they want to create a
Speaker 3: state regulated clinical program for therapeutic administration of psilocyb and
Speaker 3: continued mushrooms, remove criminal penalties for the personal use and
Speaker 3: possession of psilocyb and containing mushrooms, and allocate funding for
Speaker 3: more recent health benefits of MDMA psiloicide. I've been an LSD.
Speaker 2: I love that man, because there is such medicinal parts
Speaker 2: to all these psychedelic medicines. You know, no one talks
Speaker 2: about because they become such like a like kind of taboo.
Speaker 2: Like have you ever talked about like mushrooms or acid
Speaker 2: or LSD? Sorry, like acid is what they're's a street
Speaker 2: Gams refer to MDMA, molli ak molly to like you're
Speaker 2: like parents or someone who doesn't know. Doesn't that make
Speaker 2: you trip for like eighteen hours? And if you crack
Speaker 2: your back, you start tripping again, You're like, I mean no,
Speaker 2: like I mean maybe I don't know, Like I mean
Speaker 2: enough of it. I mean I've tripped over one hundred
Speaker 2: times easy, so I mean I think I'm doing all right.
Speaker 2: Brain's still working, so I don't know, say, but I
Speaker 2: just think there's so much I gained, so much, like
Speaker 2: it was on an LSD trip that I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to school for art and music
Speaker 2: or audio because I love sound. So it's like it's
Speaker 2: evolved my whole life. So I have a lot to
Speaker 2: think for psychedelics. So I'm glad there's task force pushing
Speaker 2: the positives because I think there is such a negatives narrative,
Speaker 2: just like cannabis that's been pushed through propaganda for years.
Speaker 2: I would agree.
Speaker 3: I think psychedelics were only going to continue to see
Speaker 3: get pushed. I was shocked to see I MDMA in it,
Speaker 3: but like a, I mean, there there have been reports
Speaker 3: and studies done that it does have therapeutic benefits when
Speaker 3: done in certain doses, you know, and when it's like
Speaker 3: actually I'm DMA and probably not cut with a bunch
Speaker 3: of other shit.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean we talked about this with most substances. Obviously,
Speaker 2: if you abuse it, it's gonna get you fucked up,
Speaker 2: like you know what I mean. But there are medicinal
Speaker 2: properties if you treat them correctly, that's when it's medicine,
Speaker 2: you know. I feel like that we talked about this,
Speaker 2: like on the wakem Bake is like sometimes that line
Speaker 2: between drugs and medicine is a little blurred depending on
Speaker 2: how you use it, you know what I mean, and
Speaker 2: how you treat it and the respect for it. So
Speaker 2: it's really a thin line, you know. And I think
Speaker 2: a lot of these things or medicines, but they kind
Speaker 2: of became drugs first because that's how they got popular first,
Speaker 2: just like cannabis, like cannas was still even and like
Speaker 2: in my brain sometimes I'll like refer to it as
Speaker 2: a drug because it's like in my brain default it right.
Speaker 2: But it's like it takes years of breaking that, like
Speaker 2: oh yeah, it's because you were taught wrong, you know.
Speaker 2: You know, we fall victim to it too, like you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I just think this is the next push.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't see this stop and I'm finishing
Speaker 3: over in my statement, was I continue to see psychic
Speaker 3: that was getting pushed heavy in twenty twenty five. I
Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if we see some more decriminalization initially
Speaker 3: just happened and get ready for the twenty twenty six
Speaker 3: midterm election. But I see this getting talked about more
Speaker 3: and more because last year was it's starting to pick up,
Speaker 3: and it's just it's like reminds me of cannabis when
Speaker 3: like it was like twenty ten, twenty eleven, and like
Speaker 3: twenty twelve. I think when Colorado legalized was the first state,
Speaker 3: and like you just started seeing once Colorado legalized, you
Speaker 3: just started seeing everything starts going up and up and up.
Speaker 3: And we had what we had Denver or colorad already
Speaker 3: legalized mushrooms, didn't they. I believe there's a decriminalize all
Speaker 3: in Denver. I forgot some state legalized it, and I
Speaker 3: feel like ever since for some reason, and you're right,
Speaker 3: they know they decriminalized all that.
Speaker 2: What you said, d crim So that's where I was
Speaker 2: still on. Iway's the whole regardless, I see your point.
Speaker 3: It's just going to get this topic is going to
Speaker 3: continue to just to get more and more uh news
Speaker 3: on it. Psychedelics not just I know it's Minnesota.
Speaker 2: I know, it's not looked at as like a psychedelic
Speaker 2: like drugged the way some of these are because they're heavier.
Speaker 2: But like, let's be real, like cannabis has a huge
Speaker 2: psychedelic part to it, you know, And that's why I
Speaker 2: always love I love cannabis because it gives you that
Speaker 2: like psychedelic part to it. Right, But it is so
Speaker 2: I think there's that like connection things. Okay, cool, thanks
Speaker 2: for verifying. But I think there is that between all
Speaker 2: these things.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: What I mean really is expanding type of substances. And
Speaker 2: that's the thing I've tried to remember to call them
Speaker 2: substances because depending on how they're treated and or and
Speaker 2: or abuse and or like appreciate it, they are very
Speaker 2: different outcomes, you know what I'm saying. No, they do.
Speaker 3: They do.
Speaker 2: So it'll be your next article though. Oh sorry, what
Speaker 2: were you saying? You want to say something else? I
Speaker 2: thought we were done, my bat.
Speaker 3: No, I'm pretty much noting. It's gonna be interesting how
Speaker 3: it just plays out and how how fast it gets legal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's facts, I mean, because it's gonna be it's
Speaker 2: gonna we talk about all the time. It's gonna be
Speaker 2: paved way, like the way cannabis paved the way for it.
Speaker 2: So I think it's gonna be nis.
Speaker 3: Opened the doors from.
Speaker 2: And it's not as much money. And we know how
Speaker 2: how like how big business is because there's not as
Speaker 2: much money behind it, Like you can't make as much
Speaker 2: money off mushrooms, Like it's not a textile, it's not
Speaker 2: a cash plant the way you know, people don't buy
Speaker 2: it all the time regularly on it, right, So I
Speaker 2: don't I don't think there's gonna be any loopholes behind
Speaker 2: it because there's no businesses lobbying against it the way
Speaker 2: it's been for campus. Again, I don't know, but.
Speaker 3: I agree canabis is a cash crop mushroom psychedelic system.
Speaker 2: But you get people, you're gonna get business.
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be a billion dollar business, Like I
Speaker 3: don't see mushrooms being billion dollars here in the States.
Speaker 2: It's probably millions for sure. It's just not the same
Speaker 2: because and so I think it'll you know, have less
Speaker 2: people lobbying and maybe.
Speaker 3: Time, maybe in time when you like when you start
Speaker 3: getting more chocolates with mushrooms and it's on the legal market,
Speaker 3: maybe you're getting different.
Speaker 2: No, I know, but I'm just talking about in sense
Speaker 2: of maybe becoming legal because there's not as much money
Speaker 2: in it, Like no matter what. Man, no one's eating
Speaker 2: mushrooms like an eighth a day where some people will
Speaker 2: smoke an ag. Yeah that's what I'm saying. There's not
Speaker 2: as much money behind it, no matter what, because the
Speaker 2: nege So this next one's in New York, but I
Speaker 2: gotta rip this cann it bey.
Speaker 3: Oh New York, New York, Oh before we go to
Speaker 3: New York because we're just leaving Minnesota. I do gotta
Speaker 3: say sorry if you're a Minnesota Vikings fan, but we
Speaker 3: whooped your ass.
Speaker 2: If you're in Minnesota right now. That was a hell.
Speaker 3: Shout out to the Lions. I am so proud of
Speaker 3: them boys. They are fucking, absolutely crushing. This is our
Speaker 3: sports break for a quick minute while Groovie's taking that
Speaker 3: they have Yeah, yeah, they deserve around the clause, dude,
Speaker 3: that was a hell of a game. Jamior Gibbs for
Speaker 3: TDS h N of our season record for a Lions player,
Speaker 3: back to back division champs, first time ever, first time
Speaker 3: ever with the number one seed. They got it. Shout
Speaker 3: out to them boys, great baby love.
Speaker 2: It, fucking man. No, And it's funny, like I think
Speaker 2: that's what we should do every time. Everyone's every time
Speaker 2: like I'm taking a dam and it's taking a second,
Speaker 2: all right, Canaday's Quick Sports Updates. We just bust it
Speaker 2: in no matter and it's just like that's a news
Speaker 2: segment Canaday of sports update like quick Updates, And it's
Speaker 2: only when I'm not talking. You gotta get perfectly and
Speaker 2: what can you do? I love it, dude, I gotta
Speaker 2: get it in. No, you gotta get it in because I'm.
Speaker 3: Just diagnobed the Lions. The Lions are bringing so much,
Speaker 3: so much to the state. It's crazy, like the city vibes,
Speaker 3: the feel. And then also I'm in the Pistons. They've
Speaker 3: won six of seven and they just beat Minnesota. So
Speaker 3: we beat Minnesota twice in basketball and foo ball. We
Speaker 3: beat them on Saturday in basketball football, and so sorry Minnesota,
Speaker 3: your job on psychedelics, I appreciate taking Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, man, that just brought a good tier to mind.
Speaker 2: That was super funny. But anyways, New York Legal, New
Speaker 2: York's legal market sports are beast booming, have won four
Speaker 2: to rows and we're back back to the podcast that
Speaker 2: is that is That is Canaday's sports update Update Update.
Speaker 3: I had to It's like, dude, every team's doing really
Speaker 3: good right now, so it's no.
Speaker 2: I'm seriously we've been talking about we he and Dave
Speaker 2: want to talk more music and sports. It's our culture
Speaker 2: because because all these things, like there's crossroads with cannabis
Speaker 2: and sports, crossroads with cannabis and music all time, and
Speaker 2: like we're just so sick of not just bringing them on.
Speaker 2: So you're probably going to see a couple of musicians
Speaker 2: hopefully this year talking about their behind the scenes with cannabis.
Speaker 2: We'll tie it always into the herbal like that, you know,
Speaker 2: that perspective from holistic sides, but like in the culture.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, there's just so
Speaker 2: much more to the culture. And I think we've dugged in,
Speaker 2: dug in so many years into just the market that
Speaker 2: like just like the companies, So me and Dave we
Speaker 2: are trying to expand more. And you know, because we've
Speaker 2: been coming to going to culture events and metric events
Speaker 2: for like years now, and I feel like, you know,
Speaker 2: sometimes we're just reporting what people got going on. But
Speaker 2: there's so much in this beautiful market. So shout out
Speaker 2: to all my community. You're all awesome medical facts, wreck
Speaker 2: preach bridges anyways, But no, this New York market is booming.
Speaker 2: So that's what it was talking about. You went to
Speaker 2: New York, right, what was your experience like? And how
Speaker 2: long ago was that now? I can't remember.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was me going into twenty three, going into
Speaker 3: last year. The way in December, that's when there was
Speaker 3: That's when there was not a lot. That's when it
Speaker 3: was still like a lot of ship was shipped in, right,
Speaker 3: I was getting shut out all the time. So it
Speaker 3: seems like they're doing a lot better now, which would
Speaker 3: have make sense slowly, but like I don't think they
Speaker 3: still have that many licenses out there though. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: I'm not shocked at New York. It is going to
Speaker 3: be a boomy market.
Speaker 2: Like I mean, dude, with the tourists and I mean York.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, it's New York.
Speaker 2: I like, how oh sorry, and I had just popped out.
Speaker 2: My ears just started blasting. No, but New York is
Speaker 2: always a popping market, like no matter what, because there's
Speaker 2: so much foot traffic and there's only people in such
Speaker 2: a small area, so it's like, yeah, I'm not really
Speaker 2: shocked about this at all. Really, you know what I mean, Oh,
Speaker 2: this is cool fact you're growing. But I mean, dude,
Speaker 2: I mean because right now it's still new, no one's
Speaker 2: figured it out. There's raids, like, there's still that gray area.
Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, people are like Fischigan back
Speaker 2: in the day, advantage of it. Like you know, they
Speaker 2: the New York's top five strands Blue Dream, O g
Speaker 2: Cush Alaskan or Strawberry, Crux Alaskan, thunder Fox Hour Diesel.
Speaker 2: They've had fifty four point one percent of approved adult
Speaker 2: used cannabis license were awarded to social and economic equity
Speaker 2: eligible applicants, and then two hundred and seventy five adult
Speaker 2: retail shops are open for business right now and they've
Speaker 2: passed five two hundred and fifty licenses and permits and
Speaker 2: now in twenty twenty four, so like that market, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that markets to be popping back up, like when I wait,
Speaker 2: it was still I remember they were starting to do
Speaker 2: a bunch of raids. But I would like to go
Speaker 2: there and try some New York bud. Yeah, no, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean, just how far it's come from. When you
Speaker 2: got there to now, like, because I mean it sounds
Speaker 2: like they's kind of getting things in order with this,
Speaker 2: but at the same time, like they're still like talking about,
Speaker 2: you know, the possible movement to Schedule three and all
Speaker 2: that stuff. So it's like sometimes some of this stuff
Speaker 2: in this article does talk about things that like might happen.
Speaker 2: You know, they haven't really dug into it, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, but they do have something called the
Speaker 2: Cannabis Control Board, which oversees I guess some of the things,
Speaker 2: and they they they do kind of like the industry regulations.
Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sure, but it sounds similar to like
Speaker 2: the CIRA type of vibes. So they have something going
Speaker 2: on over there. So that's good that there are at
Speaker 2: least hopefully good people over there. I mean, I have
Speaker 2: to look more into it, because I don't want to
Speaker 2: quote me on that by any means, but that's kind
Speaker 2: of how they allude to it. You know that they're
Speaker 2: like looking for standards set the gold standard for safety,
Speaker 2: quality and consumer education in the cannabis industry. You know
Speaker 2: that's sound similar.
Speaker 3: I mean, yes, it does, Yes, it does.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think, like you said, it's gonna be a
Speaker 2: huge market, says State Lateson's railators have so more than
Speaker 2: one billion dollars I legal cannabis, Yeah, just last year, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Which the o CM, by the way, is Office of
Speaker 2: Cannabis Management, So it's like that's maybe that's more like
Speaker 2: the CIRA, and then this other thing oversees it. I
Speaker 2: don't know, there's a little confusing. That'shy I said. There's two
Speaker 2: things over there, so it's a little more confusing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's the OCM, which is Office Cannabis Management, which is
Speaker 2: like kind of sounds more like the like the the applicants,
Speaker 2: the licensing type of stuff, you know. And then when
Speaker 2: you go down and they start talking about the what
Speaker 2: do I call it c c B, the Cannabis Control Board,
Speaker 2: which oversees OCM, you know, which is probably more like
Speaker 2: the the minds behind it and then versus the people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 2: So it sounds more like a team effort where we
Speaker 2: just have the CIA. So it's pass saying New York's
Speaker 2: a little different obviously, and then I think because of
Speaker 2: their tourism, it's good, Like it's really hard to compare Michigan.
Speaker 2: They said they sold a billion dollars already. I mean, dude,
Speaker 2: just think about.
Speaker 3: That, like what New York. Yeah, so I'd say it's
Speaker 3: to be a huge market nuts. And you know, you
Speaker 3: know what fun fact which just happened in New York
Speaker 3: the curve on their traffic is you got to pay
Speaker 3: ten dollars now every time to go into the city
Speaker 3: of like w and you're going into the city like
Speaker 3: from sixtyeth down.
Speaker 2: Really actually, yeah, you know ten dollars. I'm actually gonna
Speaker 2: pull this up. Did you are you? Do you have
Speaker 2: the article open? By chance? Shout out to Mariland.
Speaker 3: I honestly just closed it probably like thirty so if.
Speaker 2: You don't know, worries calling you out. Haha, No, I'm
Speaker 2: just kidding. I'm gonna pull it up. If you're watching
Speaker 2: on YouTube, just check it out. Let me move this
Speaker 2: third because I found this kind of fascinating. If you
Speaker 2: scroll down, blah blah blah, there's like a social post
Speaker 2: and then they broke down what looks like kind of
Speaker 2: like a like a what would you call this like
Speaker 2: a numbers breakdown kind of ye.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's so that's that's where I was getting
Speaker 3: some of those numbers from.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, that's all the numbers. I
Speaker 2: just wanted to show everyone can see all the numbers
Speaker 2: my literally my internet, just for yees.
Speaker 3: No, it's it's pretty remarkable in a year when you
Speaker 3: look at those statistics, right, I like that they gave
Speaker 3: fifty percent to uh uh the social equity, right, like
Speaker 3: over fifty percent, Yeah, which is pretty Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, sorry, I was some kind of getting some
Speaker 2: things behind the scenes, kind of froze on me, but yeah,
Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty one adult cultivars, like that's pretty
Speaker 2: crazy numbers for how new the market is, you know.
Speaker 2: That's why I just want to point that out. And
Speaker 2: for how small that area is. You know, that's the thing.
Speaker 2: I always think, like Michigan so spread out.
Speaker 3: We're a huge You're just thinking of New York's a
Speaker 3: pretty big state. Well, New York's pretty big. New York's
Speaker 3: pretty big.
Speaker 2: About the city, right, I'm picturing city.
Speaker 3: You're just thinking Manhattan.
Speaker 2: No, I'm thinking, yeah, I know, I know, my brain forgets,
Speaker 2: but like I really so. But still impressive numbers. We'll
Speaker 2: see where it goes. Yeah, probably gonna is not there. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So this next one, this next one, this one's this one,
Speaker 2: we're just gonna discuss for a little bit of these
Speaker 2: last few topics. Now we're that was kind of out
Speaker 2: of the state of at Michigan. This one's a little
Speaker 2: bit more on the more on the political side. So
Speaker 2: we're just gonna have a little friendly debate here. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get into whatever. We just want to
Speaker 2: talk about this. Oh accidentally pulled up new Or again.
Speaker 2: But Biden dodges question about releasing Canada prisoners before leaving office.
Speaker 2: It made Dave so mad. He just left, and Dave's like,
Speaker 2: I'm out. Dave's like, this is such bullshit. He just left.
Speaker 2: How are you about the dodge question about releasing cannabis printers?
Speaker 2: When you said that you were going to right? So
Speaker 2: I always kind of my thing about all this when
Speaker 2: we get into this type of stuff that I always say,
Speaker 2: I kind.
Speaker 3: Of what I literally just did was I dodged. I
Speaker 3: dodged the questions like Joe Biden just did.
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, Dave so mad, I
Speaker 2: just left. Dave's like, I'm so mad. At Okay, I
Speaker 2: know what I'm laughing because we'll do because what it
Speaker 2: is is that I need you need people to understand something.
Speaker 2: Stop expecting them to do what they say. They're just
Speaker 2: doing saying what they have to to get you to
Speaker 2: lope for them. You know, like truly you have to
Speaker 2: look in the type of person they are, Like a
Speaker 2: lot of these politicians just saying what the hell? So
Speaker 2: my whole thing is like you know, me and Dave,
Speaker 2: like I always said this, if you look back, I'm
Speaker 2: sure I was like, Okay, I'm super positive. I hope
Speaker 2: it happens. But over time we just get more. All right,
Speaker 2: I believe it when I see it. There's so sick
Speaker 2: of it, you know what I mean, Like you're just like, come.
Speaker 3: On, especially when we're talking about the Banking Act. I
Speaker 3: think we talked about it for like two years straight,
Speaker 3: and it was just like it's just funny because like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it should be. And it's just like Biden was all
Speaker 3: about all about all this stuff having people released, and
Speaker 3: he's like he doesn't do it. It's like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: just it's just so funny because like I don't know,
Speaker 3: like I'm not gonna get political here. Literally he parted
Speaker 3: his son, right, No, I you could see that happening obviously.
Speaker 3: You could see he was part of he parted his son, right,
Speaker 3: you could see that happening. But like, dude, you should
Speaker 3: pardon some of these You should be partying people that
Speaker 3: are in jail.
Speaker 2: Your son. You should be pardoning things that matter and
Speaker 2: things like the no offense man, like no, no, no offense,
Speaker 2: So fuck you man, Like you know who I him
Speaker 2: with this guy that you want.
Speaker 3: And it's just like, it's just like what Kamala was
Speaker 3: going on. She said she was going to be four.
Speaker 3: She avoids They said she'd before it, but then I
Speaker 3: always avoided talking about the topic, and she threw the
Speaker 3: most people in prison as attorney general in California.
Speaker 2: So it's like it's just it's just say that questions
Speaker 2: you really can't believe them. You just gotta see their
Speaker 2: actions over their words, because words are just fucking they're
Speaker 2: just words. Man. These people they lie, that's what they do.
Speaker 2: They're literally paid actors, like literally their job is to
Speaker 2: tell it be like to keep a straight face when
Speaker 2: things are horrible. What do you think you can just
Speaker 2: like I'm not saying, like you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like it makes my brain. There's some there there are
Speaker 2: You have to trust their actions, not their word. You
Speaker 2: can't trust their words. I didn't say that all politicians
Speaker 2: are the devil. That is not what I mean. There
Speaker 2: are good There are good politicians. Politics just make can
Speaker 2: make people kind of go to that like that that
Speaker 2: that hungry that like I don't know, like I don't
Speaker 2: know the mentality I'm trying to like paint out, but
Speaker 2: that mentality that's just a little bit more greedy. Some
Speaker 2: of these politicians get greedy. With power comes greed sometimes,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. Sometimes it's just my opinion.
Speaker 2: But it's like even when Trump got into office, it's
Speaker 2: like I don't believe he's gonna do half the things
Speaker 2: he says. He's just saying all that shit to say
Speaker 2: and then he'll do what he can. Because but that's
Speaker 2: how it always goes with presidents, like saying to the Biden,
Speaker 2: he said some shit, but it's just like he'll do
Speaker 2: what he can. But really they're just out there for
Speaker 2: their own benefit, trying to get back into office. Like
Speaker 2: the second they get into office, it's like, how can
Speaker 2: we stay here? Like that's it, Like I don't know.
Speaker 3: Trump can only stay there four years, so it's all
Speaker 3: he's got.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I didn't. I lost my
Speaker 2: faith with the whole Biden thing. You know. I think
Speaker 2: if I went back and saw man, there was probably
Speaker 2: some excitement and hope at the beginning, but by the
Speaker 2: end we were just like because it's all just like
Speaker 2: words like you know, like doude they put your money
Speaker 2: and put your money in the mouth. Is you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chuck Schumer had that bill that was supposed to
Speaker 3: end it all, and you never that's just been stalled
Speaker 3: out on the floor for yep. Who knows. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm assuming it's that I.
Speaker 2: Got repumped when I saw and you're like, yeah, it
Speaker 2: was like the third one. I was like yeah, but dude,
Speaker 2: like just be hopeful and then I was in a
Speaker 2: good mood that day or so, but you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. But but now you're just kind of like
Speaker 2: every time I see it, it's just like get frustrated
Speaker 2: now because you're just like, come on. But anyways, I
Speaker 2: just wanted to kind of talk about that one. I
Speaker 2: thought we'd good ones, but really it was only like
Speaker 2: five six minutes. I thought we were gonna have like
Speaker 2: a much longer combo on that one, but I mean.
Speaker 3: Overall, there's just disappointment. Yeah, overall is just disappointing. Back
Speaker 3: to his sports break, No, I'm just kidding a movie
Speaker 3: break no, right, because I'm looking at Sonic and I
Speaker 3: was like, Sonic, there is a pretty good movie.
Speaker 2: Honestly it was. But no shout out to Wizard of Roz.
Speaker 2: I guess I went to fifty nine to get some
Speaker 2: of that frost By you had because I really enjoyed that,
Speaker 2: and but I went they didn't have any. So I
Speaker 2: was like, well, let me check what the last thirty
Speaker 2: percent off is or whatever. They had one GMO left.
Speaker 3: I was like, let's get that nice, nice good gmo.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we gmo solid. Remember, because I had a
Speaker 2: high for the first time, I got like like the
Speaker 2: bulk and I was like, well, yeah, that's right, that's
Speaker 2: where I got. It wasn't the taste like the one
Speaker 2: that I had like from to North way back one,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So those are also different consistencies though too. That was
Speaker 3: using that's a different extraction methods.
Speaker 2: You get different terms, so I know, but I'm saying
Speaker 2: I haven't had the same I don't care about the
Speaker 2: extraction mesthas I'm talking about the terps. Weren't like sometimes
Speaker 2: those feinos don't hit the same. They're a little bit more,
Speaker 2: you know, they're always That's what I was trying to say,
Speaker 2: Like that fino was similar.
Speaker 3: No, that makes sense. It makes sense.
Speaker 2: Process however, you need to process extractors. Just make the turpy.
Speaker 3: Talk about the turps, Man turps. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So the other two or more in Michigan, and these
Speaker 2: are just kind of chats that I felt like we
Speaker 2: should just kind of like talk about. We've kind of
Speaker 2: talked to them here and there, but so let's talk
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 3: Hit me with it, Bren oversupply.
Speaker 2: And these are articles too. I'm not just making them out.
Speaker 2: This article is from Deadline Detroit, just to shout them out.
Speaker 3: The start goes by groovy music. It says over.
Speaker 2: Supplying low prices could weed out more weed companies in
Speaker 2: Michigan twenty twenty five. I put over low prices, Let's
Speaker 2: companies in Michigan two those twenty five. I think we've
Speaker 2: talked about it in different ways, right, like kind of
Speaker 2: when we talked about quality is going to start standing
Speaker 2: out because over time, all that like shiny bullshit, those lies,
Speaker 2: people start buying your products they start, they still they
Speaker 2: don't rebuy, you know. But I just want to get
Speaker 2: your perspective on over supplying low prices, because I mean,
Speaker 2: behind the scenes, we've talked to how many people growing
Speaker 2: and they're always talking about how much it was like, oh,
Speaker 2: three k four kobo and now they're getting like ten
Speaker 2: twenty percent of that some of them. Granted, some people
Speaker 2: hold their line, but it's crazy what some of these
Speaker 2: companies are having to do in retrospect to where it started.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So what absolutely, man, Obviously I think there is there
Speaker 3: probably is a little bit over supplied, like we've heard
Speaker 3: in the market, because you have all the you have
Speaker 3: all the bows that came down, it crops over and
Speaker 3: you just have all the a lot of the grower,
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of cultifares are thousands of plants, right.
Speaker 3: But I do think in time, as we see, there's
Speaker 3: been a lot of players that are those big, those
Speaker 3: big license holders that hold a lot like you know,
Speaker 3: uh live well out of stay companies officially closing up
Speaker 3: shop now. Uh they're gonna be out in Michigan. Yeah, No,
Speaker 3: I mean they're theirs.
Speaker 2: No matter how much money you have in this game.
Speaker 2: If you don't have your morals and you don't have
Speaker 2: your product in line, like you still you're not gonna
Speaker 2: make it.
Speaker 3: Just I don't even think if it's not even I
Speaker 3: don't even think it's morals. I think if you if
Speaker 3: you're not gonna be able to produce a good product
Speaker 3: in time, and you can't and you can't and you
Speaker 3: can't scale with your product, Like if you're gonna over
Speaker 3: if you're gonna grow thousands of thousands of plants and
Speaker 3: you're gonna have like a DF product, you have to
Speaker 3: expect the price you're gonna get in the industry, now,
Speaker 3: like that, that's just it's gonna be the prices, isn't
Speaker 3: what you said it like it used to be? Right,
Speaker 3: you have to be able to scale your business and
Speaker 3: be able to produce a quality product that is failed affordable.
Speaker 2: Well, the reason I brought morality into it, and the
Speaker 2: only reason why is because I always think that some
Speaker 2: of the true I truly believe that these companies who
Speaker 2: make it are passionate about their product. I think some
Speaker 2: of these ones who cut corners with big investors, who
Speaker 2: just throw marketing on just grow weed to get it out,
Speaker 2: like Live Well or anyone of these companies. I think
Speaker 2: they don't necessarily have the right mindset or moral That's
Speaker 2: why I said that, but I think they correlate in
Speaker 2: that way. That's the only reason why I brought that.
Speaker 2: Eye Actually right, it is bound to the product because
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, if it's good product,
Speaker 2: some people will just buy it because it's good product.
Speaker 2: They won't always look into the research. Right, You're absolutely right,
Speaker 2: But that's why I brought that.
Speaker 3: I feel like about how they it.
Speaker 2: You won't make it in this game if it's just
Speaker 2: a money money money game, because you might as well
Speaker 2: go to something else if you just need to flip something.
Speaker 2: This is very much dependent on your quality and who
Speaker 2: you're in.
Speaker 3: I think passion outproves in every industry. I think yeah.
Speaker 3: I think passion outshows outshines in every industry. So wherever
Speaker 3: you have the most passion, you do see that within
Speaker 3: the step final product. I just think you probably will
Speaker 3: see more businesses closed this year. Unfortunately, it sucks any
Speaker 3: time of business clothes because if people lose their jobs
Speaker 3: here in Michigan, and I hope they find jobs if
Speaker 3: they work for set businesses because overall that's the thing
Speaker 3: that sucks the chop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man.
Speaker 3: So hopefully other brands picked them up and they helped
Speaker 3: sm other brands. But I will I do see other
Speaker 3: business closing because there is We've heard talks. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of cultivators in the state. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of you know, a lot of a lot of
Speaker 3: week out there.
Speaker 2: Just to quote this article, the average price with the
Speaker 2: ounce of cannabis and Michigan DULC nearly fell to a
Speaker 2: new low twenty three percent fell. More so, the average
Speaker 2: on ounce is seventy one dollars and eighty cents, which
Speaker 2: is pretty crazy if you consider like that there is
Speaker 2: some still top shelf quality flower out there, so to
Speaker 2: make up that average, there must there's like gotta be
Speaker 2: twenty thirty dollars ounces out there, which I've seen forty
Speaker 2: dollars ounces. So it's like, I don't know, it's crazy
Speaker 2: because the people used to chase being the best, having
Speaker 2: the best gas out there, right, because we come from
Speaker 2: like the trap days where everyone had that that fire
Speaker 2: pack right or that gas pack or whatever, right, and
Speaker 2: then it came for the medical days where it was
Speaker 2: like it was the people stood by the pride behind
Speaker 2: it a little bit more like I grew this with
Speaker 2: my own hands, so it's the best. It's chronic right
Speaker 2: to now. It was just like how much money can
Speaker 2: I make as fast as possible? Why it's legal ruin
Speaker 2: this market and then get out, like in my opinion,
Speaker 2: not ruined, but you're ruining the price per pound just
Speaker 2: so they just so they could fail, Like.
Speaker 3: It's a big fail because that's a lot of millions
Speaker 3: that they lose. They thought they just.
Speaker 2: Stick money to do it and flip the money. Like
Speaker 2: the people don't remember that, Like this is very much
Speaker 2: a quality game. You know, you can fake.
Speaker 3: Market a couple of lot of the Michigan consumers though too,
Speaker 3: you know valid you know there's like Michigan consumers love
Speaker 3: good cannabis and we've been around cannabis for a while
Speaker 3: and a lot of a lot of the brands that
Speaker 3: are in Metric came from the caregiver days right where
Speaker 3: they were growing the top flower and they were fighting
Speaker 3: to get that like, hey, this is the ship that
Speaker 3: you want. I said, you see that now in the metric.
Speaker 2: I still think you see a lot of the community
Speaker 2: gives a ship but I still think you think that
Speaker 2: a lot of those one offers. A lot of those
Speaker 2: one people who smoke out every other weekend or like
Speaker 2: on holidays, those are sometimes the people who are buying
Speaker 2: those cheap bounces, though they don't necessarily search of the education,
Speaker 2: you know, they're just kind of like trying to get
Speaker 2: the best deal possible for the highest THC so I
Speaker 2: can talk about it. Which I still think that's a
Speaker 2: big percentage of the consumer base. I think you're absolutely right.
Speaker 2: I think there is some there's a deep culture in
Speaker 2: the community in this Michigan market. So there are people
Speaker 2: who are very passionate like you or any of these
Speaker 2: cup winners from hash bash or any people who really
Speaker 2: care on the market, right, you know, who know our
Speaker 2: partners can be you know, Kidschen, people who really care
Speaker 2: like you know, and there's I mean, we have such
Speaker 2: a strong caregiver community too, so it's like there's so
Speaker 2: much passion here, so there is such a high quality.
Speaker 2: So that's why I think I agree with you. But
Speaker 2: I do think there is a lot of people who
Speaker 2: aren't in that community as deep, who make up a
Speaker 2: big percentage of the buyers. And I think that's why
Speaker 2: it's just been a pull and take why those companies
Speaker 2: survive so long, but also why you're starting to see
Speaker 2: them fall off because they don't buy as regular like
Speaker 2: the people who buy are like people like you and
Speaker 2: me who are heady, trying and trying to do new
Speaker 2: shit like new terps, new flavors, new strains, nu genetics,
Speaker 2: you know. So I think those are the people are
Speaker 2: gonna yeah, you're gonna see.
Speaker 3: It's it's crazy because that's such like a small part
Speaker 3: of the industry.
Speaker 2: I think that's what I'm saying. They think. I think
Speaker 2: there are some deep passionate people, but it's very divided
Speaker 2: still with education. I think education, I mean is a
Speaker 2: big missing part for some people because I think if
Speaker 2: you told people what they were putting forty dollars ounces,
Speaker 2: they might just take another twenty forty dollars into the
Speaker 2: ounce and buy an eighty dollars you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like they might just you know, they might they might not. No,
Speaker 2: I know, so they might not.
Speaker 3: They might be on a budget. Man.
Speaker 2: But even were leads to companies going away. So I
Speaker 2: think no matter what this articles had on because I
Speaker 2: think these low prices for companies who were investing back
Speaker 2: in their company when they should have been saving because
Speaker 2: the price per pound wasn't gonna last forever. But you know,
Speaker 2: companies were spending like those price per pound weren't gonna
Speaker 2: go down. So I think some of those companies who
Speaker 2: didn't plan for these rainy days, that's where we might also,
Speaker 2: unfortunately see some good players fall off to because there
Speaker 2: was such hope for the market growing. So I do
Speaker 2: see some player maybe falling off, but I'm hoping that
Speaker 2: maybe the collaborations they'll come up with new ideas because
Speaker 2: they're already, like you said, they're the passionate part, so
Speaker 2: hopefully they're also innovative. So I just it's gonna be crazy,
Speaker 2: you know, it's because I hope we see the good
Speaker 2: ones survive. We see more companies like Live Well, Puff
Speaker 2: fall off, cool whatever. So yeah, man, crazy. And then
Speaker 2: the last one I just wanted to talk about. Before
Speaker 2: we got here, there was this article worded it kind
Speaker 2: of like harshly for clickbait. They called the medical marijuana
Speaker 2: accounts for less than one percent of Michigan sales, is
Speaker 2: it time for a change? And what they're not calling
Speaker 2: for is change in the medical market they're not. They're
Speaker 2: not at all. What they're talking about is merging the
Speaker 2: the medical and records licenses. Yeah, which they should so yeah,
Speaker 2: I just want to talk about thought. So they've already
Speaker 2: beat me to it. What's your thoughts, Dave? Yeah, No, no,
Speaker 2: they should.
Speaker 3: I mean they shouldn't have to pay for it, and
Speaker 3: then if if it if they're still testing it, it's
Speaker 3: still below it.
Speaker 2: I agree, man, because you're dropping this bullshit allows dispos
Speaker 2: to offer that that discount and and more accessibility for
Speaker 2: medical patients because again obviously that's why we never want
Speaker 2: the caregivers to go anywhere, you know, Dave's caregiver, Like,
Speaker 2: we love the caregiver system. It's not anything to do
Speaker 2: with that. It has strictly to do with just the
Speaker 2: licenses just for the dispensaries, you know, because I think
Speaker 2: then you'd see a lot of those discounts come back.
Speaker 2: I think you see the medical like high dosage CBD stuff,
Speaker 2: high dosage stuff come back, which would be great because
Speaker 2: again for medical patients, it's all about accessibility. So that's
Speaker 2: why I love the caregivers, because it's like personal stuff
Speaker 2: they can grow, but say they're out or there's like
Speaker 2: a little bit of downtime or they can't reach them
Speaker 2: or they're busy at that moment, they can hit a
Speaker 2: dispo and it can be conveniently discounted for them. So
Speaker 2: I think these medical patients deserve because they pave the
Speaker 2: way that accessibility, because that's all I think this licensing
Speaker 2: kind of does open up, is accessibility. So how can
Speaker 2: we maybe add it that.
Speaker 3: Nice?
Speaker 2: Wow, Dave, I got daved nice Like that's it, And like,
Speaker 2: I know everybody ship sick all right, well it has
Speaker 2: always no kidding advocate tastes like medicate just no hold on.
Speaker 2: But for real, I mean but.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I mean a lot of the brands
Speaker 3: I want to pay the license. It's more expensive too.
Speaker 3: You gotta pay for all the licensing you for you
Speaker 3: ever year. That's wow, that's why you need to merges
Speaker 3: for the like it's a win win back the medical cards,
Speaker 3: yeah's affect that medical cards are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as long as it doesn't touch anything there.
Speaker 3: It's just licenses on the metric and medical combining, which
Speaker 3: they should and it's probably just easier for paperwork too
Speaker 3: than for the state for dollars for sales and ship
Speaker 3: They just combined it all well, and that's what.
Speaker 2: It's confusing to me is the state doesn't realize you're
Speaker 2: just getting more people who don't shop and dispos just
Speaker 2: stop by there every once in a while. It's just
Speaker 2: more money. Like they're still going to go there caregiver first,
Speaker 2: yeah or.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like a lot of people still just
Speaker 3: go to the day Well nowadays there's just so convenient.
Speaker 3: There's so many everywhere. Like dude, my city just has
Speaker 3: like opened up three new ones. Right well, I.
Speaker 2: Think just how low the prices. That's why you're seeing
Speaker 2: people just go there for you're convenient because usually you
Speaker 2: get the best deal from the hominge and it's chronic,
Speaker 2: but right now it's just you can get good deals
Speaker 2: and like you said, it's convenience. So the convenience with
Speaker 2: the good price is just averages. But I still think
Speaker 2: that the cartgiver market's strong here. The culture is always
Speaker 2: going to be strong here.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, sure, after.
Speaker 2: All the big cloud events in step ten and it's
Speaker 2: still strong. And to me, that's where you get the
Speaker 2: real experimentation and innovation and people trying to find the
Speaker 2: new turps in the new streams. You know. Metrics always
Speaker 2: trying to do what sells or whatever, because that's what
Speaker 2: they gotta do. They gotta have these ones that have
Speaker 2: these these tt points high tiers because that's what that sells. Right.
Speaker 2: But that caregiver community is why I think Michigan is
Speaker 2: so innovative, because we're they're the ones experimenting, coming out
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Speaker 2: the market, you know, is this is a great part
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