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Speaker 3: can see, I've got a special guest in studio with me. Uh,
Speaker 3: sometimes a cohost almost, if you will. Uh, but Rob Linebarger,
Speaker 3: he is the chair of the Spokane County GOP. Uh,
Speaker 3: one I'm a big fan of, um, to be quite honest.
Speaker 3: And Rob, we had, uh, quite, quite an event, quite
Speaker 3: the weekend. Uh, didn't we?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a great weekend. Uh, great time at
Speaker 2: our convention, and thanks for being there to record it
Speaker 2: and give us the video and audio transcript of everything
Speaker 2: that was said and done. It's been very helpful for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would imagine it would be. It was kind
Speaker 3: of interesting. We were the only media really there. There
Speaker 3: was a few that ended up actually watching our live stream.
Speaker 3: One reporter kind of outside as well, but It was
Speaker 3: kind of funny for me to have the Spokesman Review,
Speaker 3: not the Inlander, Range. Range has actually been fairly nice
Speaker 3: to me, but the Spokesman Review has attacked me a
Speaker 3: number of times, and here they are watching my live stream.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. They're challenged with— let's say, fair and balanced every,
Speaker 2: you know, so often. But, you know, they wrote a
Speaker 2: big article, front page news, we'll talk about it, the
Speaker 2: purity test, right? Everything that happened, all the good stuff
Speaker 2: that happened at the convention, of course, they pick out
Speaker 2: the purity test comment, and then that becomes their headline, right?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, they're obviously watching this program if they
Speaker 3: knew to go to the live stream. So they might
Speaker 3: even write a story about this interview right here. So hi, spokesman,
Speaker 3: or any of the other mainstream news that might be watching. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we had the Spokane GOP convention. And during this, you guys, well,
Speaker 3: I mean, you put in a ton of work, a
Speaker 3: lot of work to really describe what a Republican truly is.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. And, you know, and It describes what the, you know,
Speaker 2: the characteristics that we want to associate with, right? You know,
Speaker 2: we're all different. We do things different ways. And I believe,
Speaker 2: you know, Al Merkel, who led our resolutions process and
Speaker 2: was also very helpful in creating the platform as well.
Speaker 2: He participated in both committees. there's that 10% that he
Speaker 2: talks about where we just can't compromise on it. And
Speaker 2: I'll go through here in a minute, but given what
Speaker 2: the press is not reporting on, I think by omission,
Speaker 2: they agree with us. Should I go over a few
Speaker 2: of those?
Speaker 3: Please do.
Speaker 2: Okay, because these have been somewhat controversial in the past, right?
Speaker 2: So let's just kind of go through them. So In
Speaker 2: our platform, and I'll say more specifically in our resolutions,
Speaker 2: the first one, affirming the sanctity, dignity, and protection of
Speaker 2: human life. Did you see any comment on that in
Speaker 2: any reports?
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Anything negative about our position on that by the left-wing media?
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, they're going to be opposed to that
Speaker 3: because they didn't see it.
Speaker 2: Guess what? They must agree with it now. Because they
Speaker 2: didn't focus on that. Affirming strong family focus. Did they
Speaker 2: criticize us on that?
Speaker 3: No, no, they didn't. Even though they, you know, they
Speaker 3: hate the family unit. I know.
Speaker 2: What about our God-given unalienable rights? Our rights come from God.
Speaker 2: It's both in our platform, which, by the way, people
Speaker 2: come to the fair and get one of these. We
Speaker 2: have them in pamphlet form. But did they give us
Speaker 2: any brushback on our rights coming from God?
Speaker 3: Maybe they're going back to being constitutionally oriented, because that
Speaker 3: is what the Declaration of Independence says.
Speaker 2: Well, it does. Absolutely. And those are one of our
Speaker 2: core values, our life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. But they
Speaker 2: did give us a lot of grief on protecting people
Speaker 2: from weather modification. In fact, I think the quote was
Speaker 2: that we're a bunch of wackadoos.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're like Bigfooters. I remember that quote. You know,
Speaker 3: I would just tell people to look up. It's pretty
Speaker 3: easy to see. And even beyond that, if you don't
Speaker 3: have just questions about these clouds that kind of vaporize
Speaker 3: and descend down and we're all of a sudden in
Speaker 3: this haze. Maybe read the article about the Chinese bragging
Speaker 3: during the Olympics where they actually seeded the clouds to
Speaker 3: ensure that it wouldn't rain during the Olympics. Yeah, weather
Speaker 3: modification is real by their own admission.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's this agency called, I think, the National Oceanographic
Speaker 2: and Atmospheric Administration, NOAA. They have these missions. They fly
Speaker 2: with the Hurricane Hunter, the C-130s. Yeah, those guys, I
Speaker 2: did some work with them in a previous life. They
Speaker 2: admit it. And that mission's been on books since the
Speaker 2: LBJ administration as far as weather control, weather weaponization, things
Speaker 2: like that. So anyway, but one of my chair force
Speaker 2: people that was there disagreed with it, and that's fine.
Speaker 2: We like people to disagree, too. We can have that conversation.
Speaker 3: We can, and that's the thing. Let me point this out.
Speaker 4: Look.
Speaker 3: There are specific things that if you want to be
Speaker 3: a Republican, especially an elected Republican, there are that 10%
Speaker 3: things like we do not compromise on these issues. If
Speaker 3: you have questions about weather modification, if you think, no,
Speaker 3: that just can't be true, that doesn't mean that you
Speaker 3: can't be a Republican. Nobody's saying that.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: You know, having an opposing opinion to the resolutions on
Speaker 2: a weather modification is not going to get you denied
Speaker 2: an endorsement. Sure.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: But advocating for abortion on demand probably will.
Speaker 3: Yeah, as it should be. And let me just say this.
Speaker 3: You know, Rob, for a long time, the Republican Party,
Speaker 3: just as a whole, right, has had this belief, the
Speaker 3: big tent. We got to go more towards them. We
Speaker 3: got to get more central, right, in order to attract
Speaker 3: the voters. I'll tell you what. People are sick of that.
Speaker 3: People are absolutely sick of that. And I point to, like,
Speaker 3: movies all the time on this show. When you're watching
Speaker 3: a movie, and especially guys, right? I always bring up
Speaker 3: like William Wallace, right? Braveheart. Like we all want to
Speaker 3: identify with William Wallace. But it's such a good analogy
Speaker 3: because there was the other heads of the clans that
Speaker 3: were like, we got to compromise with the king. Look,
Speaker 3: we're getting land. Yeah, it's not a great situation. William
Speaker 3: Wallace took a hard stand. And that's what you're doing
Speaker 3: with the GOP. This is a hard line. I tend
Speaker 3: to think that the vast majority of Americans who are
Speaker 3: on the conservative spectrum, they want that hard line.
Speaker 2: That's absolutely correct. And, um, I would say I've received
Speaker 2: between phone calls, uh, text messages and emails, um, 30 post, uh, um, convention,
Speaker 2: you know, they've reached out and given me feedback on it. Um,
Speaker 2: these aren't like regular party people. These are people that
Speaker 2: were there as delegates and aren't, you know, part of
Speaker 2: the day to day. Um, And they all basically said
Speaker 2: the same thing. And, you know, you ran a campaign.
Speaker 2: You were an elected official at one time as a
Speaker 2: Valley City Councilman. You know, in the end, all politics
Speaker 2: is just a numbers game.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: You can go out, you know, the endorsements. OK, great.
Speaker 2: They're nice to put on your, you know, your media
Speaker 2: pamphlet or whatever. But if those endorsements don't mean anything
Speaker 2: and people don't recognize those as having value, they, you know,
Speaker 2: then they don't do you any good. And kind of
Speaker 2: back to your point, it's like. What I call out
Speaker 2: the name I have for these people are, you know,
Speaker 2: like the relics or the fossils from the party.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: You know, they're you know, they have that mindset where
Speaker 2: we need if I can't like engage Democrats to come
Speaker 2: with us, we can't win. And again, you know, the
Speaker 2: numbers are, well, if you just go look at the
Speaker 2: voter rolls, the number of Republicans that used to vote
Speaker 2: that don't. Why don't you try going and asking them
Speaker 2: to come back? I think that's I think that's a
Speaker 2: better proposition. I think you have a higher probability of
Speaker 2: success of getting somebody that's with you. But like you said,
Speaker 2: they are so disgusted in being told one thing and.
Speaker 2: then there's no follow through on it. Or it's like,
Speaker 2: say anything to get elected. But where are the results?
Speaker 2: And they're tired of being betrayed. And I hear that
Speaker 2: betrayal comment, you know, all the time. It's like, you know,
Speaker 2: why should I do? Why should I get involved? They're
Speaker 2: just going to let us down. So that's why we
Speaker 2: have a standard now. At least we can say, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, and, you know, there are some prominent politicians
Speaker 2: here locally in the county level who I have great
Speaker 2: respect for. We're not asking you to take an oath, right? OK,
Speaker 2: you know, so, you know, you don't have to like
Speaker 2: raise your hand and, you know, put your other one
Speaker 2: on the Bible and say, I'm going to follow the
Speaker 2: GOP platform or, you know, you know. or I can't
Speaker 2: be a Republican. No, we're not saying that. What we're
Speaker 2: saying is when you have a chance to advocate for
Speaker 2: a position, make sure you do it. Stand with us,
Speaker 2: you know, and don't try to court the other side
Speaker 2: by betraying us. We, you know, we have to have
Speaker 2: a standard. We have to have a measuring stick to
Speaker 2: evaluate people on. And also, our volunteers' time is just
Speaker 2: as valuable as the politicians' time that, I don't know
Speaker 2: what they do day to day, but, you know, but
Speaker 2: a lot of volunteer time, a lot of volunteer money
Speaker 2: goes into these things, and we want results. And You know,
Speaker 2: for myself as the chair to get people to, you know,
Speaker 2: to work on behalf of the party and work on
Speaker 2: behalf of these politicians who I get calls from all
Speaker 2: the time. Hey, can I get door knockers? Can I get,
Speaker 2: you know, this person to come to this event or
Speaker 2: that event? It's getting very hard to do because that,
Speaker 2: you know, that trust factor is just not there anymore.
Speaker 3: I think that's incredibly well said. And to any elected
Speaker 3: officials watching this, I think that's good advice for you. Like, hey,
Speaker 3: get back to the base. Get back to those disillusioned voters. Rob,
Speaker 3: let me ask you something, because this purity test, and
Speaker 3: that's the name of the episode for it, but that
Speaker 3: was screaming from the headlines, a purity test as far
Speaker 3: as Republicans are concerned. I find that argument to be bunk, personally.
Speaker 3: And I wanted to ask you this. If If the
Speaker 3: Spokane GOP had decided upon a purity test for those
Speaker 3: that were going to be associated with the party, why
Speaker 3: would a very open libertarian platform– I mean I'm very
Speaker 3: open about that. Church and state is a libertarian platform.
Speaker 3: Would I not fail that purity test? Why would you
Speaker 3: invite me to cover the Spokane Convention? Why would you
Speaker 3: be a constant guest on this show? Why would you
Speaker 3: have me cover other events that you guys have done?
Speaker 3: Wouldn't I have failed that purity test?
Speaker 2: Well, I think this is a hypothetical because there's no
Speaker 2: purity test. Is that right?
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 2: Okay. So hypothetically— If there were a purity test, it
Speaker 2: would be a purity test for that 10% that we
Speaker 2: just will not compromise on. Primarily, the sanctity of life.
Speaker 2: All life is valuable from the moment of conception until
Speaker 2: natural death. We don't want to evolve into one of
Speaker 2: these societies, let's say like Canada, like, hey, grandma, you're
Speaker 2: no longer paying taxes, so it's time to euthanize you.
Speaker 2: We don't want that. Yeah. You know, I said that
Speaker 2: would probably be something that was in it. But the
Speaker 2: purity test issue is really coming up from our local
Speaker 2: politicians about taxes. Okay, that was the main argument you
Speaker 2: were there. Would you agree with that? They were arguing
Speaker 2: over the taxes. So one of the arguments was, you know,
Speaker 2: the bond for the new jail that I think has
Speaker 2: failed three times. Don't quote me on that, but I
Speaker 2: believe it's three times, maybe twice. But it has failed
Speaker 2: in the past. It can't get to 60% on that thing.
Speaker 2: And okay. Is there a purity test? If, if you're, um, if,
Speaker 2: if you're a, uh, the auditor for Spokane County, are
Speaker 2: we forcing you to take an oath, um, to no
Speaker 2: new taxes for the jail?
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: Um, What we're saying is before you slap a new tax,
Speaker 2: because if you if you look at your property tax bill,
Speaker 2: it is just laden with levies and bonds. Now, it's
Speaker 2: it's it's unaffordable. It absolutely is. It's crushing people. And
Speaker 2: these I don't know if these people are like not
Speaker 2: aware of it or or what. I mean, do they
Speaker 2: think that message resonates with people that can barely pay
Speaker 2: their taxes that they want to give them another tax? No,
Speaker 2: it's a horrible message. So what we're asking them to do,
Speaker 2: and maybe this is the purity test, before you do that,
Speaker 2: why don't you go look at stuff that's not working
Speaker 2: and see how much you can save to pay for
Speaker 2: it before you ask us for more money? Because guess what?
Speaker 2: We're done paying more money. It's not going to pass.
Speaker 2: No matter how you sugarcoat it, it's not going to
Speaker 2: pass unless you show us how you're going to cut
Speaker 2: in other areas. And, you know, coming up on this
Speaker 2: will be the Central Valley– school board levy that's coming up,
Speaker 2: which is already catching fire. It's all over social media already.
Speaker 2: You know, one of their board members, you know, I
Speaker 2: think voted for it. Maybe I don't know what I
Speaker 2: didn't look at the vote, but then came out and
Speaker 2: did very dramatic speech against it, you know, at the
Speaker 2: board meeting people. I mean, I'm getting already getting calls
Speaker 2: and feedback on this. We're done supporting those things. And
Speaker 2: one of our resolutions is to raise that threshold back
Speaker 2: up to 60%, which we talked about on the last show,
Speaker 2: so that the person that's, you know, the 50.001 vote
Speaker 2: for it doesn't get to tax all of us. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's really, if you go back to the history of
Speaker 2: our country, taxation without representation, they're going to say, yeah,
Speaker 2: majority voted for it. Yeah, but half of us don't
Speaker 2: vote for it, and we have to pay it anyway,
Speaker 2: and we're done with that as well.
Speaker 3: So, Rob, are you suggesting that the Republican Party, a
Speaker 3: party that's supposed to be about lower taxes and reducing government,
Speaker 3: should actually do that?
Speaker 2: Should actually lower taxes and reduce government.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, and I think I said this on the
Speaker 2: last show, the first thing they need to do is
Speaker 2: look at personnel. Personnel are your biggest cost.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 2: And then along with those personnel go the programs that
Speaker 2: they run. And if you don't need those personnel, because
Speaker 2: the programs are ineffective, then you kill two with one,
Speaker 2: two birds with one stone. You're not buying material. You're
Speaker 2: not wasting money for it. You're not doing the never ending. Oh,
Speaker 2: let's do a study and find out, you know, if
Speaker 2: it's worth doing it.
Speaker 3: Which by the way, those studies cost money.
Speaker 2: Of course. So, I mean, yeah, let's give a purchase
Speaker 2: order to a think tank to tell us something that we,
Speaker 2: like just an average person can say, hey, that's a
Speaker 2: dumb idea.
Speaker 3: I mean, you were just talking about volunteers. I guarantee
Speaker 3: you there's a lot of volunteers in the GOP that'd
Speaker 3: be more than happy to donate their time to being
Speaker 3: part of a independent volunteer think tank on any given
Speaker 3: subject within government.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't take years to get the answer.
Speaker 3: No, it wouldn't. It'd be one meeting.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Maybe you'd have to bring in some donuts to feed them.
Speaker 3: But other than that, yeah, it'd be basically free. And
Speaker 3: they'd tell you, no, we don't like this. It doesn't work.
Speaker 3: And these think tanks, which are typically at the national scale,
Speaker 3: you know, they say, well, Baltimore did this. We're not Baltimore.
Speaker 3: It may not work for us.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. It's really crazy.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 3: So in typical fashion— you're getting attacked. And I was
Speaker 3: actually sitting there and watching as we're streaming this, and
Speaker 3: I'm genuinely amused by everything around me. That's just my personality.
Speaker 3: And I was watching as the attacks lined up against you. Now,
Speaker 3: I wasn't amused that you were getting attacked. I was
Speaker 3: just amused because it's politics. And I knew it was
Speaker 3: going to fail, but I could watch it be engineered
Speaker 3: against you. I could see the players that were coming
Speaker 3: out against you. But what I was overjoyed with was
Speaker 3: how much support you actually had in this.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: There were about, I would say, roughly 10 people who
Speaker 2: coordinated what you were just talking about. In fact, there
Speaker 2: were four in particular that wanted to disrupt the proceeding
Speaker 2: right from the beginning. I knew it was coming. I
Speaker 2: hired private security to make sure there was no liability
Speaker 2: for the party as far as, oh, no, you laid
Speaker 2: your hands on me to throw me out of the
Speaker 2: building or whatever. I've already been called back saying, you know,
Speaker 2: they're going to try to sue me because I violated
Speaker 2: the Public Meetings Act. I'm like, we're a private corporation.
Speaker 2: That was a private event. That was not a public meeting.
Speaker 2: So go ahead, do that. But, yeah, there were some
Speaker 2: people there. But just to kind of put it in perspective,
Speaker 2: you know, the platform, the platform passed 159 to 3, okay,
Speaker 2: with nine abstentions. Okay, that's greater than 95%. Okay. Is
Speaker 2: it perfect?
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: I mean, and you know what? Going forward, it could
Speaker 2: be amended. I mean, the biggest and most ridiculous argument
Speaker 2: against passing the platform was from a couple people that
Speaker 2: said they live out in the sticks and they don't
Speaker 2: got good broadband.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: So they wanted to postpone it for two years because.
Speaker 2: But then I first thing that came to my mind
Speaker 2: was I thought like right before she retired from Congress,
Speaker 2: Kathy McMorris Rogers said that the Rural Broadband Act, I believe,
Speaker 2: billions of dollars. Shouldn't all those people have ditches with
Speaker 2: coax cable going to their huts or wherever they live
Speaker 2: by this point? Where'd that money go? Yeah, good question.
Speaker 2: And since then, because I work in tech, but since then,
Speaker 2: you no longer lead Comcast broadband. You can get Starlink.
Speaker 2: It's very effective.
Speaker 3: Rob, you know I live out in the sticks.
Speaker 2: I do, too. I live on top of a mountain.
Speaker 3: You do, and I use Starlink, and it works great.
Speaker 2: It's great. Yeah, so that was the chief argument. And then,
Speaker 2: you know, the resolutions, they tried to break those up,
Speaker 2: go through them one by one, which I wasn't against,
Speaker 2: and I expected that. And we entertained that, but in
Speaker 2: the end, the combined and collective wisdom of the assembly,
Speaker 2: all the delegates that were assembled voted against that. They
Speaker 2: passed the resolutions, and I believe the vote on the
Speaker 2: resolutions was like a 90 to 10 when you do
Speaker 2: the numbers, something like that. you know, 144, 140, you know, yeas.
Speaker 2: I think there were like maybe nine nos, and there
Speaker 2: were 19 abstentions or something like that. And so that
Speaker 2: thing overwhelmingly passed. And then we considered some, you know,
Speaker 2: some amplifying resolutions, we call them where people wanted more
Speaker 2: detail than what we had in the packet itself. None
Speaker 2: of those passed, and that's fine. But bottom line was,
Speaker 2: everybody's voice was heard within reason and within time. But
Speaker 2: like you said, there were people that were stepping up
Speaker 2: to the mic that wanted to kind of disrupt it
Speaker 2: and throw people off track. And then I've got several
Speaker 2: calls thanking me, like, thanks for not falling for it, right?
Speaker 2: Keeping the meeting going. So we got out of there,
Speaker 2: and before I gaveled it out, what did I say?
Speaker 2: We were six minutes early from getting out of here
Speaker 2: on a Saturday afternoon. That's pretty good, yeah. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was a good meeting.
Speaker 3: I want to point this out as well. You've been
Speaker 3: talking about the delegates. These are representatives of people that
Speaker 3: identify as Republicans. You're either identifying as a hard Republican
Speaker 3: or a soft Republican, and these are your representatives. They're elected, actually,
Speaker 3: for those of you who aren't aware of that. Your
Speaker 3: precinct committee officer is on your ballot today. And you
Speaker 3: can run against them if you don't like the direction
Speaker 3: or position of the party. But these are your representatives.
Speaker 3: So these aren't a bunch of elitists just making decisions
Speaker 3: for the people of Spokane County.
Speaker 2: No, far from it, actually. And, you know, those precinct
Speaker 2: committee officers like you talk about, they hold a caucus.
Speaker 2: And their neighbors from their precinct come to the caucus.
Speaker 2: And those are the people that become the delegates. So
Speaker 2: these aren't, you know— day-to-day political hacks. Um, you know,
Speaker 2: these aren't party people, you know, like me who do this,
Speaker 2: have to do this every day, you know, as a
Speaker 2: volunteer in the party, these are people that have, you know,
Speaker 2: normal lives and, but they took, they took their time
Speaker 2: out to come to a caucus and to the convention.
Speaker 2: And we appreciate that. And, you know, in a presidential year,
Speaker 2: we'll have a thousand people this year. We had, I think,
Speaker 2: 297 sign up, 171 show up. Um, but again, that's
Speaker 2: a representative sample of the community and, and every, everybody,
Speaker 2: you know, we didn't ask for credentials at the caucuses.
Speaker 2: Like how did you check the box in the last
Speaker 2: presidential election when you declared to vote in the primary
Speaker 2: for a Republican or a Democrat? I mean, we can,
Speaker 2: we can see that in, in the voter data, but no, we,
Speaker 2: we welcomed all of our neighbors to come participate. And I,
Speaker 2: you know, that, that is really the, you know, the
Speaker 2: best part of, you know, the community and American in
Speaker 2: general is that we'd have those grassroots voices that do
Speaker 2: show up and participate.
Speaker 4: Sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Um, One of the other things that some people had
Speaker 3: an issue with was... having media pay a small fee
Speaker 3: for having access to this. And, you know, there's this, well,
Speaker 3: they're holding back the fourth pillar, right, that it's supposed
Speaker 3: to watch the government. Number one, this wasn't the government.
Speaker 3: This is the party. So I would point that out
Speaker 3: as well. But you want to address that? Like, I
Speaker 3: don't have an issue with paying you 100 bucks to
Speaker 3: go and and report on what was going on during
Speaker 3: the convention.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: The convention is an expense. It costs money to put
Speaker 2: it on. It costs money to print all the paper.
Speaker 2: It costs money to have security. We have to pay
Speaker 2: for the venue. And it's not uncommon at a private
Speaker 2: event to have media pay for their credentials because we
Speaker 2: have to process those credentials as well. So, you know,
Speaker 2: we're not making, you know, a bunch of money off it. It's,
Speaker 2: you know, that's the cost of doing business. And if
Speaker 2: they didn't want to be inside the room, they could
Speaker 2: have tuned in live to your show, which is great.
Speaker 2: Like I said, we got an audio and visual transcript
Speaker 2: of it, and then I could drop it into AI.
Speaker 2: I can get a written transcript of everything as well.
Speaker 2: And I believe, you know, some of them did watch it,
Speaker 2: and they reported on it, and I believe that was
Speaker 2: the same. Other than just seeing, like, the raw motion
Speaker 2: for the moment, you could see it on screen.
Speaker 5: Yeah. true.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: And I'll just point out, like I've been media at
Speaker 3: the reawakened tours. I've been a media at CPAC. Uh,
Speaker 3: I've been a media at the shot show. Uh, and
Speaker 3: I've had to pay every single time for those credentials. Uh,
Speaker 3: all right. So this isn't like you're just singling out
Speaker 3: the spokesman review or, or range media because you don't
Speaker 3: like them. No, it's pretty standard practice actually. No.
Speaker 2: In fact, I sent an email to every media that
Speaker 2: I'm aware of locally and invited them all. And, and, uh,
Speaker 2: The spokesman did come back to me and kind of like, really?
Speaker 2: Are you going to charge us? I'm like, yeah, you
Speaker 2: got to buy a ticket.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: And part of that, you could have had part of
Speaker 3: the barbecue, too.
Speaker 2: They could have. You know, that was the other thing. Right.
Speaker 3: They don't eat meat, though, anyway. Yeah. One of the
Speaker 3: things I got to say that I really like about you, Rob,
Speaker 3: and I've seen a lot of different chairs within the
Speaker 3: local GOP here. You got a warrior spirit. Maybe that's
Speaker 3: why we get along here. But I've seen other chairs,
Speaker 3: both good and bad, that because of the nature of
Speaker 3: the job and the attacks that you're going to experience here,
Speaker 3: they burn out, they get tired of it. But you
Speaker 3: just seem to be rushing into the battlefield every time
Speaker 3: I see you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's maybe because I have like a numb brain.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. But I do suffer
Speaker 2: from burnout periodically, but I'll be honest with you. And,
Speaker 2: you know, you've experienced this for yourself, I'm sure. You know,
Speaker 2: when you have unit integrity, like, you know, whether you're
Speaker 2: serving in a squad or a platoon or whatever, you know,
Speaker 2: people have your back and you have theirs. We have
Speaker 2: such terrific people in our organization that do the heavy lifting.
Speaker 2: You know, and I serve every day, you know, largely
Speaker 2: because of them. These are just, you know, great people.
Speaker 2: I consider some of them, you know, family, probably most
Speaker 2: of them. And, you know, you have to get some enjoyment,
Speaker 2: you know, out of things you do in life. And
Speaker 2: I really enjoy working with those people. And that's why
Speaker 2: I do it.
Speaker 3: Sure. Sure. Now, one of the speeches that I want
Speaker 3: to highlight was Jonathan Bingle. It was dynamite. It truly was.
Speaker 3: And Jonathan Bingle, whereas some within the Republican Party kind
Speaker 3: of shy away from their faith. Jonathan Bingle just embraces
Speaker 3: it and goes right for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And we do have a little segment that I'd like
Speaker 3: to show for the audience. And Chris is going to
Speaker 3: bring that up here. But we're not going to play
Speaker 3: the whole thing. But it was I mean, he I
Speaker 3: would say he was probably the most dynamic of the speakers.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And he was there for a reason. And he delivered
Speaker 2: big time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he definitely did. Chris, do we have that ready?
Speaker 3: All right. Let's go ahead and play that for the
Speaker 3: audience then.
Speaker 4: For those of you who don't know, my name is
Speaker 4: Jonathan Bingle. I am a recovering Spokane City Council member.
Speaker 4: I got to joyfully serve with my friend Michael Cathcart.
Speaker 4: And now I'm running for state representative because there are
Speaker 4: a lot of issues in front of us. And I
Speaker 4: obviously care about good governance. I care about lower taxes.
Speaker 4: I care about you keeping more of your money. I
Speaker 4: care about them not indoctrinating our kids. I care about
Speaker 4: all this, but I think that there's something that we
Speaker 4: have to talk about today. And there is a sickness
Speaker 4: in America today.
Speaker 3: And I don't know about you. I'm tired of losing.
Speaker 4: I went to Rogers High School. I lost everything ever.
Speaker 4: And I'm so sick of losing.
Speaker 3: I want to win. And I believe I'm surrounded by
Speaker 3: people who also feel that way. If you want to win,
Speaker 3: raise your hand. Tell me you want to win. I
Speaker 3: want to win.
Speaker 4: Let's go. I want to win. I want to win
Speaker 4: not just because I hate losing, but I do. And
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan and I have that in common. That's the
Speaker 4: only thing we have in common. But I also hate
Speaker 4: losing more than I like winning. But I hate losing
Speaker 4: and I want to win. And I want to win
Speaker 4: not just because I hate losing, but because losing really
Speaker 4: determines the future of the state of Washington.
Speaker 3: Say it louder. Let's go. I like it.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 4: And here's the thing that I think we all need
Speaker 4: to realize. Is there any media in the room? Any
Speaker 4: media in the room?
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 3: Church and states in the room. Okay. Here's the deal.
Speaker 3: I'm going to say a very bold statement.
Speaker 4: We are in a war and I want to win.
Speaker 3: And we'll say it again. We are in a war
Speaker 3: and I want to win.
Speaker 4: Now, before the spokesman misquotes me, okay, I don't mean
Speaker 4: a literal war.
Speaker 3: I think that's very important to say.
Speaker 4: But we are in a spiritual battle for the souls
Speaker 4: of our people and the soul of this country. We
Speaker 4: have a real sickness in the United States. And unfortunately,
Speaker 4: socialism has taken root in the United States and is
Speaker 4: radically reshaping the Democrat Party. The establishment Democrats are trying
Speaker 4: to fight back, but it's a too little too late situation.
Speaker 3: The cancer has spread.
Speaker 4: The establishment Democrats have months left to live before the
Speaker 4: Democratic Socialists of America are a major political party in
Speaker 4: the United States.
Speaker 3: Do we understand that? As much as I– yes, I
Speaker 3: love the preachback. Let's go.
Speaker 4: As much as I disagree with my Democrat friends, I
Speaker 4: don't want the Democrat Party to fade away and become
Speaker 4: Democratic Socialists of America because– All right, let's go ahead and.
Speaker 3: Pause there, Chris. We've got that hard break coming up here.
Speaker 3: We're going to come back, though. We're going to finish
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Speaker 3: Rob Leinbarger. And we're talking about the GOP. We just
Speaker 3: heard Jonathan Bingle speaking there. He went in to talk
Speaker 3: about the armor of God. We're not going to play
Speaker 3: the whole thing. It was a long speech. It was
Speaker 3: a really good speech. But he really embraced his Christianity
Speaker 3: and the spiritual war that we currently find ourselves in.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. And, you know, so the, the, the
Speaker 2: first three core values in our platform are faith, family,
Speaker 2: and freedom. And he brilliantly covered all of those, right? He,
Speaker 2: you know, the spiritual war became the, I guess the
Speaker 2: co-headline along with the purity test, right? That's what, you know,
Speaker 2: that was the focus of that. And, um, you know, I,
Speaker 2: I remember back, I gave a three minute speech at
Speaker 2: a school board meeting and talked about the spiritual war and,
Speaker 2: you know, during, you know, the mass times and all that. And, uh,
Speaker 2: You know, they demonize me for that too. They hate that. It's,
Speaker 2: you know, it's like showing Dracula the cross when you mentioned,
Speaker 2: you know, the spiritual war, but it is true. And
Speaker 2: it's not the spiritual war because we're trying to drive
Speaker 2: anybody to any particular doctrine or religion. The spiritual war
Speaker 2: is against good and evil. And if you can't clearly
Speaker 2: see good and evil that's being done, particularly in government,
Speaker 2: government is, I would say, 90% evil. Okay. Just, you know,
Speaker 2: whether it's because they, you know, confiscate our money, misspend it, fraud, waste,
Speaker 2: and abuse. I mean, I can go through, you know,
Speaker 2: a litany of things. The people might not all be evil,
Speaker 2: but I believe that the mission mostly is. And that's
Speaker 2: my personal opinion. And I think he outlined that greatly.
Speaker 2: But I've given him the cool call sign, Spokane's favorite son.
Speaker 2: And I really believe that. I mean, he's a rock star.
Speaker 2: And when his speech was over, I told everybody at
Speaker 2: the convention, next opportunity, bow your head and pray that
Speaker 2: we're inaugurating him someday as the next governor of Washington State.
Speaker 2: Because how great would that be?
Speaker 3: I think they'd be really interesting. You know, Washington State,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to hold my breath on that one,
Speaker 3: but congressman, yes. I could definitely see Jonathan Bingle being
Speaker 3: a congressman. And he is. He's very... political, but not
Speaker 3: in the negative sense, not in the sense that people
Speaker 3: are like, oh, he's a politician. No, I've been in
Speaker 3: the trenches with Jonathan Meagle. I've known him for years.
Speaker 3: He used to stand with us when we were doing
Speaker 3: the church events outside of Planned Parenthood, even though he
Speaker 3: got attacked for it during the whole COVID fiasco. He
Speaker 3: refused to wear a mask. And that's somebody that, to me,
Speaker 3: that has principle. Those are the kind of people that
Speaker 3: I'm looking for to move into positions of higher power
Speaker 3: and Uh, that's why I endorsed him heavily. I know
Speaker 3: you guys are thrilled. Uh, and I think he is
Speaker 3: going to be our next state representative.
Speaker 2: He's fearless.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Right.
Speaker 2: No, and there's no doubt. And he and Alan Nolan,
Speaker 2: both in the sixth legislative district, that is a great team. Um,
Speaker 2: both of them can, you know, I don't know how
Speaker 2: much work you can do with the other side. You know,
Speaker 2: people talk about, I crossed the aisle and, and, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, uh, one of my paragraphs got slid into
Speaker 2: a bill. Okay, great. But you know, um, But those guys,
Speaker 2: I mean, they're not going there to make enemies. That's
Speaker 2: kind of my point here. And You know, I believe,
Speaker 2: you know, in God's plan and someday God's plan is
Speaker 2: to correct this election mess that we have, which, again,
Speaker 2: is one of our resolutions to secure elections. Maybe it's
Speaker 2: going to come sooner rather than later. But once once
Speaker 2: we can get rid of the fraud and people like, oh,
Speaker 2: fraud is rare and, you know, things like this. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, you know, like every person that is
Speaker 2: in this country illegally or legally that gets a driver's
Speaker 2: license is registered to vote through the motor voter laws,
Speaker 2: including Washington state. Is people aware of that? They get
Speaker 2: a ballot. A lot of them vote, right? And I
Speaker 2: made a comment on Fakebook the other day that, you know,
Speaker 2: if you send a fraudulent ballot through the mail, it's
Speaker 2: a federal crime, right? It's, it's mail fraud. If you
Speaker 2: deliver the ballot that, you know, to somebody that is
Speaker 2: not eligible to vote, it's a crime. And I think that's, that's,
Speaker 2: you know, what the Trump administration is going after now
Speaker 2: is to try to drill down on that. And I
Speaker 2: believe today, Washington's one of 24 states that are going
Speaker 2: to fight that in court with your money, by the way. And, uh,
Speaker 2: so yeah, that battle's coming and I think we need
Speaker 2: to have that fight.
Speaker 3: I would completely agree. I got to say this as well, Rob, um,
Speaker 3: I see Spokane on the cusp. Um, We've lost the
Speaker 3: city in a lot of ways. It's pretty much completely
Speaker 3: Democrat-controlled now. And we've seen the fruits of their labor.
Speaker 3: And by that, I mean nobody wants to go downtown anymore.
Speaker 3: I just saw the story. 7-Eleven had been declared a
Speaker 3: nuisance property again. It's like their third time. But nobody's
Speaker 3: going downtown. And Spokane's a beautiful city. It really is.
Speaker 3: It has a river running through it, the park. It's
Speaker 3: a beautiful area that nobody wants to go to. Well,
Speaker 3: I think the public is going to start, I don't know, realizing,
Speaker 3: putting a correlation between the Democrat policies and the condition
Speaker 3: of their city. And I see the Spokane GOP poised
Speaker 3: to really make some inroads here and perhaps to regain
Speaker 3: some control. Maybe not in the third. That might be
Speaker 3: forever lost. I don't know. But we could see some
Speaker 3: control come back to people that are, in my opinion,
Speaker 3: a lot more sensible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what I think you're going to see is there's
Speaker 2: a generation of people whose shelf life is about to expire. Okay,
Speaker 2: that would be my generation and older.
Speaker 3: Um, thank you for not including me in that, by
Speaker 3: the way.
Speaker 2: No, you're just a youngster. Um, but I, the thing
Speaker 2: that I'm, you know, particularly enthused about is the number
Speaker 2: of young people that we talk with that do not,
Speaker 2: you know, share the same, you know, beliefs and paradigms
Speaker 2: as those people where, you know, all government is good.
Speaker 2: Trust the government, right? These, these, these young, I think
Speaker 2: these young people more than not are going to come,
Speaker 2: you know, towards the, you know, conservative, uh, point of view,
Speaker 2: maybe not Republicans, but I doubt if they're going to
Speaker 2: be voting for the type of Democrat socialists like we're
Speaker 2: talking about. They don't want that. They're getting crushed as well.
Speaker 2: They can't find jobs. They can't buy a house. It's
Speaker 2: hard to start a family. I think they're coming our way.
Speaker 2: And so it might not be tomorrow, but I think
Speaker 2: at some point in the future, this coin is going
Speaker 2: to flip and we'll all be better off for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Let me speak to that because while I identify
Speaker 3: as that younger generation, So as a libertarian, I can
Speaker 3: say that in the local elections, I primarily vote Republican.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: There are some that I don't vote for. And I
Speaker 3: have my reasons for that. And I've done, you know,
Speaker 3: my my takes on elections. But there are people that
Speaker 3: I don't vote for. But primarily, yeah, I look to it.
Speaker 3: And especially with the current state of the GOP in
Speaker 3: this county. Yeah, I pretty much vote Republican on that.
Speaker 2: That's great to hear. And, you know, if we can,
Speaker 2: like I said, if we can get the people that
Speaker 2: have lost confidence back and re-engage with them, even if
Speaker 2: that engagement is as simple as, hey, cast a vote, right?
Speaker 2: We're not asking you who you vote for or just like, hey,
Speaker 2: come back. You know, I think, you know, the future
Speaker 2: is bright if we can get those. Converting Democrats is
Speaker 2: mathematically impossible. And let me kind of restate that. It's
Speaker 2: mathematically impossible. to convert enough Democrats. Like, for example, we
Speaker 2: have a person who's a very extremely qualified candidate, warrior,
Speaker 2: Natalie Paulson running in the third. If the strategy, and
Speaker 2: I'm not saying this is her strategy, but if the
Speaker 2: strategy is to go out and convert 7,000 Democrats so
Speaker 2: that she can overcome the Democrats, that's impossible. OK, but
Speaker 2: if let's say seven thousand is the number in the spread,
Speaker 2: you have a better chance of going out there and
Speaker 2: finding out the seven thousand people in her district that
Speaker 2: didn't vote last time, didn't vote in the primary. and
Speaker 2: engage them and get them to vote, you have a
Speaker 2: better chance of catching up doing that. So let's try
Speaker 2: that strategy first before we try to go change the
Speaker 2: hearts and minds of people that vehemently disagree with us.
Speaker 3: You know, I like that strategy. And I mean, I've
Speaker 3: doorbelled myself for my own campaign and for other people's campaigns.
Speaker 3: And typically what you get is a list of hard Ds,
Speaker 3: soft Ds, independents, soft Rs, and hard Rs. And then
Speaker 3: as you walk the houses, you go and typically hit
Speaker 3: Those three, you'll hit the independents, but typically your emphasis
Speaker 3: is on the hard R's and soft R's. If you
Speaker 3: did a walking list of just people who didn't vote,
Speaker 3: that's a great idea. That's a winning strategy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's what they call a green field, right?
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: Just go out and harvest it. And if you've ever
Speaker 2: been in sales, let's say like telemarketing, the person that
Speaker 2: gets the renewals, is making all the money, right? The
Speaker 2: person that gets the cold call, they're lucky to get
Speaker 2: one sale a day, right? You know, there's all kinds
Speaker 2: of analogies you can use for this, but try to
Speaker 2: go out and engage with people that we know believe
Speaker 2: with us. And again, I hear this all the time.
Speaker 2: It's like, why should I? Well, give us, give them
Speaker 2: a reason to come back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I would agree. I also wanted to play
Speaker 3: a short little clip from Alan Nolan. You brought him up.
Speaker 3: He's going to be, in my opinion, he's going to
Speaker 3: be the seatmate of Jonathan Bingo when they both win
Speaker 3: in November here. But Alan Nolan had some great things
Speaker 3: to say, and I'd love to highlight that as well. Chris,
Speaker 3: do you have that one available also?
Speaker 1: Good morning I'm Alan Nolan and I'm gonna put these
Speaker 1: on not because I can't see but because they're cool
Speaker 1: so just want you to make that perfectly clear I
Speaker 1: tell you what I like that I see a lot
Speaker 1: of red white and blue out in the audience so
Speaker 1: I want to ask how many people have a flag
Speaker 1: at their house or in their yard Yeah, I like
Speaker 1: that we got so many hands. I tell you what,
Speaker 1: when I walk around knocking on doors for the sixth
Speaker 1: legislative district where Jonathan and I are running to bring
Speaker 1: leadership back to Olympia from our region, one of the
Speaker 1: things I think about is my Democrat opponent where what
Speaker 1: does it feel like for them to look at a
Speaker 1: house with a flag and a flag and a truck
Speaker 1: and think, I probably shouldn't go there.
Speaker 3: They're not going to be my voters.
Speaker 1: I tell you what, I thank God that that is
Speaker 1: not a problem that any of our candidates have. And
Speaker 1: that's not a problem that any of us here in
Speaker 1: this room have. And that is what I'm helping to
Speaker 1: look to bring, and I'm really glad to be here
Speaker 1: and speak to this group, especially about the platform today.
Speaker 1: Because faith, family, and freedom, That's the foundation that has
Speaker 1: made America great, that has brought our success and made
Speaker 1: us the envy of the world. And the life, liberty,
Speaker 1: and pursuit of happiness, those that are drawn from the
Speaker 1: Declaration of Independence, those are the couple of principles that
Speaker 1: help define what has made our country successful. I've read
Speaker 1: through our platform and I wrote to Rob and I
Speaker 1: told him, it is.
Speaker 3: A great document.
Speaker 1: So whoever had a hand in writing that, congratulations, you
Speaker 1: did a fantastic job. And this platform is important because
Speaker 1: it's a beacon for us to gather around to help
Speaker 1: define our beliefs and a tool for us to help
Speaker 1: convey that to our community. It's the glue that helps
Speaker 1: hold our party together. And one of the important things
Speaker 1: about it is that The platform is not about people.
Speaker 1: There's no one's name written on it. Like I mentioned,
Speaker 1: I don't know who wrote it. No one's name is
Speaker 1: attached to it. The important part is the ideals, not
Speaker 1: the individuals. And that is what we hold our loyalty to,
Speaker 1: both as Americans and as Republicans. I want to actually
Speaker 1: also say thanks to Rob for the article that he
Speaker 1: wrote yesterday about in the Defender. I think that he
Speaker 1: did a great job of talking about that and focusing
Speaker 1: on that our goal here today should be to define
Speaker 1: and put forward those principles and ideals that we are
Speaker 1: going to fight for as a party. And those ideals
Speaker 1: are important because they help us when we have to
Speaker 1: do things like measure somebody who says they're an independent.
Speaker 1: By going and looking at what they actually say and
Speaker 1: seeing are they really independent? Are they just a wolf
Speaker 1: in sheep's clothing?
Speaker 3: Go ahead and pause it there, Chris. I think that's
Speaker 3: a fantastic statement right there by Alan Nolan.
Speaker 2: You are.
Speaker 3: You're examining people. That's what we do. Labels serve a purpose.
Speaker 3: And if somebody is identifying as an independent, and there
Speaker 3: were a lot of independents in this last race, are
Speaker 3: they actually independent? Or are they just claiming that because
Speaker 3: they've looked at the numbers in the district or area
Speaker 3: that they want to represent? is primarily red. So they
Speaker 3: are like, well, I'm not a Democrat. I'm an independent.
Speaker 3: I think this is a great thing. And I will
Speaker 3: also point out that Alan Nolan didn't attack the platform. No,
Speaker 3: he embraced it. He said it was a great platform.
Speaker 3: Those are the kind of people I want to support, Rob.
Speaker 2: That's right. And a couple of things. So Alan Nolan
Speaker 2: is a leader who's led under fire. OK, that guy
Speaker 2: deserves your vote. OK, he's going to do a great job.
Speaker 2: He's not some, you know, policy wonk that came up
Speaker 2: through some think tank and now, you know, and then
Speaker 2: was a legislative aide and now wants to be a
Speaker 2: politician for life. No, that's not him. He's a small
Speaker 2: business owner. He was an F-16 pilot in the Air Force.
Speaker 2: The guy the guy is the real deal. The other
Speaker 2: one I'll just mention real quickly is Trent Mayer. So
Speaker 2: Trent Mayer owns Trailbreaker Cider out in Liberty Lake. He's
Speaker 2: a small business owner, and I give him the award
Speaker 2: for accomplishing the most in the least amount of time.
Speaker 2: He didn't have a prepared speech. He stood up there.
Speaker 2: It was genuine. He says, hey, I own a business.
Speaker 2: It's tough. I get it. But I think he called
Speaker 2: it the cheat code or something like that where, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm running for office because I figured out that I
Speaker 2: can go there and make a difference. And when I
Speaker 2: was talking with him, I'm like, Trent, you want to
Speaker 2: know what really separates you from a lot of these
Speaker 2: people is you've signed paychecks and had to give away
Speaker 2: your own money to people that work for you. And
Speaker 2: it is true. A lot of these people that get
Speaker 2: into government, they've never done that.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: So Trent had some great points. And one of them
Speaker 2: that stuck with me is he said, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know if it was in the previous year or years,
Speaker 2: on average, $ 12, 000 of additional expense to his business through
Speaker 2: useless non-value add regulation. A lot of those, I mean,
Speaker 2: it might be state level, it might be county, it
Speaker 2: might be city, literally like there's no value in there.
Speaker 2: But you know what the key point is? He can't
Speaker 2: raise his prices. People won't show up and buy his product.
Speaker 2: He can't pay his people more money because the bonus
Speaker 2: is going to the government. And that's exactly what we're
Speaker 2: talking about here. Roll that stuff back. If you don't
Speaker 2: have a measurable benefit to the taxpayer, get rid of it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I would agree.
Speaker 3: And I just recently started liking ciders and it's not
Speaker 3: because of anything like that. Stop it. Stop it. I
Speaker 3: wasn't in the Navy. Anyway, but yeah, I mean, go
Speaker 3: frequent his business. I think this is a great candidate
Speaker 3: as well. I would echo that he would be a
Speaker 3: great addition to local government here. Rob, we've run out
Speaker 3: of time, but I want to just say I so
Speaker 3: appreciate your time here coming on the show. And I
Speaker 3: look forward to more of your leadership. I think it's
Speaker 3: exactly what the Spokane GOP needed.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Thanks, Caleb. Thanks, Chris. And save America. Vote Republican.
Speaker 3: All right, there you go. All right, ladies and gentlemen. Hey,
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