WEBVTT 1 00:00:15.910 --> 00:00:18.809 Spokane Valley could become a sanctuary city of a different kind. 2 00:00:18.870 --> 00:00:21.129 Councilman Caleb Collier says that this proposal. 3 00:00:21.149 --> 00:00:23.809 I'm proposing that the city of Spokane Valley issue a 4 00:00:23.850 --> 00:00:26.769 proclamation stating that our city is a Second Amendment sanctuary. 5 00:00:26.820 --> 00:00:43.500 Welcome to the fire. Welcome to the fire. Today on 6 00:00:43.560 --> 00:00:46.820 Church and State, Purity Test with Rob Leinbarger. Hello, Christian Patriots, 7 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:48.719 and welcome to Church and State, where we drive morality 8 00:00:48.759 --> 00:00:51.280 and religion over tolerance and apathy. And I'm your host, 9 00:00:51.299 --> 00:00:54.359 Caleb Collier. Once again, your favorite far-right shock jock and 10 00:00:54.380 --> 00:00:56.700 the show that talks about politics and religion. 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Uh, but Rob Linebarger, 41 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:31.069 he is the chair of the Spokane County GOP. Uh, 42 00:02:31.189 --> 00:02:33.669 one I'm a big fan of, um, to be quite honest. 43 00:02:33.729 --> 00:02:36.729 And Rob, we had, uh, quite, quite an event, quite 44 00:02:36.750 --> 00:02:38.030 the weekend. Uh, didn't we? 45 00:02:38.050 --> 00:02:40.800 Yeah, it was a great weekend. Uh, great time at 46 00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:43.879 our convention, and thanks for being there to record it 47 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:46.919 and give us the video and audio transcript of everything 48 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:49.099 that was said and done. It's been very helpful for me. 49 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:52.069 Yeah, I would imagine it would be. It was kind 50 00:02:52.090 --> 00:02:54.569 of interesting. We were the only media really there. There 51 00:02:55.469 --> 00:02:59.550 was a few that ended up actually watching our live stream. 52 00:03:00.349 --> 00:03:02.960 One reporter kind of outside as well, but It was 53 00:03:03.000 --> 00:03:05.900 kind of funny for me to have the Spokesman Review, 54 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:10.139 not the Inlander, Range. Range has actually been fairly nice 55 00:03:10.180 --> 00:03:12.659 to me, but the Spokesman Review has attacked me a 56 00:03:12.719 --> 00:03:15.479 number of times, and here they are watching my live stream. 57 00:03:15.819 --> 00:03:21.810 Yeah, exactly. They're challenged with— let's say, fair and balanced every, 58 00:03:22.069 --> 00:03:25.219 you know, so often. But, you know, they wrote a 59 00:03:25.460 --> 00:03:28.039 big article, front page news, we'll talk about it, the 60 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:30.460 purity test, right? Everything that happened, all the good stuff 61 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:32.599 that happened at the convention, of course, they pick out 62 00:03:32.659 --> 00:03:36.949 the purity test comment, and then that becomes their headline, right? 63 00:03:36.969 --> 00:03:39.990 Well, I mean, they're obviously watching this program if they 64 00:03:40.030 --> 00:03:43.229 knew to go to the live stream. So they might 65 00:03:43.270 --> 00:03:47.120 even write a story about this interview right here. So hi, spokesman, 66 00:03:47.819 --> 00:03:51.830 or any of the other mainstream news that might be watching. Yeah, 67 00:03:51.870 --> 00:03:58.889 we had the Spokane GOP convention. And during this, you guys, well, 68 00:03:58.930 --> 00:04:00.819 I mean, you put in a ton of work, a 69 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:05.159 lot of work to really describe what a Republican truly is. 70 00:04:05.539 --> 00:04:09.520 Absolutely. And, you know, and It describes what the, you know, 71 00:04:09.539 --> 00:04:13.280 the characteristics that we want to associate with, right? You know, 72 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:16.870 we're all different. We do things different ways. And I believe, 73 00:04:16.910 --> 00:04:19.649 you know, Al Merkel, who led our resolutions process and 74 00:04:19.689 --> 00:04:23.889 was also very helpful in creating the platform as well. 75 00:04:24.029 --> 00:04:29.259 He participated in both committees. there's that 10% that he 76 00:04:29.310 --> 00:04:32.009 talks about where we just can't compromise on it. And 77 00:04:32.110 --> 00:04:34.829 I'll go through here in a minute, but given what 78 00:04:34.870 --> 00:04:37.750 the press is not reporting on, I think by omission, 79 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:40.259 they agree with us. Should I go over a few 80 00:04:40.300 --> 00:04:40.600 of those? 81 00:04:40.860 --> 00:04:41.259 Please do. 82 00:04:41.500 --> 00:04:44.800 Okay, because these have been somewhat controversial in the past, right? 83 00:04:45.300 --> 00:04:48.410 So let's just kind of go through them. So In 84 00:04:48.449 --> 00:04:51.370 our platform, and I'll say more specifically in our resolutions, 85 00:04:51.430 --> 00:04:55.250 the first one, affirming the sanctity, dignity, and protection of 86 00:04:55.290 --> 00:04:57.329 human life. Did you see any comment on that in 87 00:04:57.410 --> 00:04:57.949 any reports? 88 00:04:58.430 --> 00:04:58.500 No. 89 00:04:58.529 --> 00:05:02.449 Anything negative about our position on that by the left-wing media? 90 00:05:03.069 --> 00:05:04.480 Oh, I mean, they're going to be opposed to that 91 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:06.040 because they didn't see it. 92 00:05:06.040 --> 00:05:08.939 Guess what? They must agree with it now. Because they 93 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:12.990 didn't focus on that. Affirming strong family focus. Did they 94 00:05:13.170 --> 00:05:14.129 criticize us on that? 95 00:05:14.350 --> 00:05:16.540 No, no, they didn't. Even though they, you know, they 96 00:05:16.569 --> 00:05:18.160 hate the family unit. I know. 97 00:05:18.180 --> 00:05:22.180 What about our God-given unalienable rights? Our rights come from God. 98 00:05:22.279 --> 00:05:24.339 It's both in our platform, which, by the way, people 99 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:26.480 come to the fair and get one of these. We 100 00:05:26.500 --> 00:05:29.720 have them in pamphlet form. But did they give us 101 00:05:29.819 --> 00:05:32.560 any brushback on our rights coming from God? 102 00:05:32.620 --> 00:05:35.610 Maybe they're going back to being constitutionally oriented, because that 103 00:05:35.670 --> 00:05:37.430 is what the Declaration of Independence says. 104 00:05:37.889 --> 00:05:39.990 Well, it does. Absolutely. And those are one of our 105 00:05:40.129 --> 00:05:44.430 core values, our life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. But they 106 00:05:44.529 --> 00:05:48.810 did give us a lot of grief on protecting people 107 00:05:48.860 --> 00:05:51.259 from weather modification. In fact, I think the quote was 108 00:05:51.300 --> 00:05:52.560 that we're a bunch of wackadoos. 109 00:05:52.819 --> 00:05:57.279 Yeah, we're like Bigfooters. I remember that quote. You know, 110 00:05:57.300 --> 00:06:01.240 I would just tell people to look up. It's pretty 111 00:06:01.379 --> 00:06:03.920 easy to see. And even beyond that, if you don't 112 00:06:03.939 --> 00:06:08.680 have just questions about these clouds that kind of vaporize 113 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:10.639 and descend down and we're all of a sudden in 114 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:14.740 this haze. Maybe read the article about the Chinese bragging 115 00:06:14.810 --> 00:06:18.019 during the Olympics where they actually seeded the clouds to 116 00:06:18.060 --> 00:06:20.819 ensure that it wouldn't rain during the Olympics. Yeah, weather 117 00:06:20.860 --> 00:06:22.959 modification is real by their own admission. 118 00:06:23.339 --> 00:06:27.860 Yeah, there's this agency called, I think, the National Oceanographic 119 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:31.720 and Atmospheric Administration, NOAA. They have these missions. They fly 120 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:36.550 with the Hurricane Hunter, the C-130s. Yeah, those guys, I 121 00:06:36.899 --> 00:06:39.790 did some work with them in a previous life. They 122 00:06:39.829 --> 00:06:44.000 admit it. And that mission's been on books since the 123 00:06:44.199 --> 00:06:48.829 LBJ administration as far as weather control, weather weaponization, things 124 00:06:48.870 --> 00:06:51.910 like that. So anyway, but one of my chair force 125 00:06:52.149 --> 00:06:54.189 people that was there disagreed with it, and that's fine. 126 00:06:54.230 --> 00:06:56.550 We like people to disagree, too. We can have that conversation. 127 00:06:56.670 --> 00:06:59.329 We can, and that's the thing. Let me point this out. 128 00:06:59.410 --> 00:06:59.550 Look. 129 00:07:00.300 --> 00:07:02.920 There are specific things that if you want to be 130 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:08.259 a Republican, especially an elected Republican, there are that 10% 131 00:07:08.259 --> 00:07:11.949 things like we do not compromise on these issues. If 132 00:07:12.089 --> 00:07:15.769 you have questions about weather modification, if you think, no, 133 00:07:15.829 --> 00:07:18.629 that just can't be true, that doesn't mean that you 134 00:07:18.649 --> 00:07:20.370 can't be a Republican. Nobody's saying that. 135 00:07:20.550 --> 00:07:20.769 Right. 136 00:07:20.810 --> 00:07:25.410 You know, having an opposing opinion to the resolutions on 137 00:07:25.430 --> 00:07:27.889 a weather modification is not going to get you denied 138 00:07:28.149 --> 00:07:29.430 an endorsement. Sure. 139 00:07:29.709 --> 00:07:29.889 Right. 140 00:07:30.769 --> 00:07:34.110 But advocating for abortion on demand probably will. 141 00:07:34.670 --> 00:07:37.189 Yeah, as it should be. And let me just say this. 142 00:07:37.470 --> 00:07:40.389 You know, Rob, for a long time, the Republican Party, 143 00:07:40.439 --> 00:07:43.879 just as a whole, right, has had this belief, the 144 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:47.240 big tent. We got to go more towards them. We 145 00:07:47.259 --> 00:07:50.459 got to get more central, right, in order to attract 146 00:07:50.519 --> 00:07:53.230 the voters. I'll tell you what. People are sick of that. 147 00:07:53.370 --> 00:07:55.990 People are absolutely sick of that. And I point to, like, 148 00:07:56.050 --> 00:07:58.759 movies all the time on this show. When you're watching 149 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:01.899 a movie, and especially guys, right? I always bring up 150 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:04.779 like William Wallace, right? Braveheart. Like we all want to 151 00:08:04.860 --> 00:08:08.589 identify with William Wallace. But it's such a good analogy 152 00:08:08.629 --> 00:08:12.050 because there was the other heads of the clans that 153 00:08:12.089 --> 00:08:14.009 were like, we got to compromise with the king. Look, 154 00:08:14.029 --> 00:08:18.480 we're getting land. Yeah, it's not a great situation. William 155 00:08:18.500 --> 00:08:20.879 Wallace took a hard stand. And that's what you're doing 156 00:08:20.899 --> 00:08:24.560 with the GOP. This is a hard line. I tend 157 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:27.110 to think that the vast majority of Americans who are 158 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:30.009 on the conservative spectrum, they want that hard line. 159 00:08:30.209 --> 00:08:33.549 That's absolutely correct. And, um, I would say I've received 160 00:08:33.710 --> 00:08:40.769 between phone calls, uh, text messages and emails, um, 30 post, uh, um, convention, 161 00:08:41.289 --> 00:08:44.210 you know, they've reached out and given me feedback on it. Um, 162 00:08:44.330 --> 00:08:47.029 these aren't like regular party people. These are people that 163 00:08:47.070 --> 00:08:48.850 were there as delegates and aren't, you know, part of 164 00:08:48.870 --> 00:08:53.120 the day to day. Um, And they all basically said 165 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:57.570 the same thing. And, you know, you ran a campaign. 166 00:08:57.610 --> 00:08:59.769 You were an elected official at one time as a 167 00:08:59.950 --> 00:09:03.919 Valley City Councilman. You know, in the end, all politics 168 00:09:03.980 --> 00:09:04.960 is just a numbers game. 169 00:09:05.500 --> 00:09:05.700 Right. 170 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:08.419 You can go out, you know, the endorsements. OK, great. 171 00:09:08.460 --> 00:09:10.690 They're nice to put on your, you know, your media 172 00:09:10.730 --> 00:09:14.129 pamphlet or whatever. But if those endorsements don't mean anything 173 00:09:14.169 --> 00:09:17.720 and people don't recognize those as having value, they, you know, 174 00:09:17.759 --> 00:09:19.799 then they don't do you any good. And kind of 175 00:09:19.820 --> 00:09:23.039 back to your point, it's like. What I call out 176 00:09:23.490 --> 00:09:25.289 the name I have for these people are, you know, 177 00:09:25.309 --> 00:09:28.370 like the relics or the fossils from the party. 178 00:09:28.490 --> 00:09:28.649 Right. 179 00:09:28.669 --> 00:09:32.549 You know, they're you know, they have that mindset where 180 00:09:32.929 --> 00:09:37.480 we need if I can't like engage Democrats to come 181 00:09:37.580 --> 00:09:40.990 with us, we can't win. And again, you know, the 182 00:09:41.029 --> 00:09:43.470 numbers are, well, if you just go look at the 183 00:09:43.509 --> 00:09:46.190 voter rolls, the number of Republicans that used to vote 184 00:09:46.230 --> 00:09:49.029 that don't. Why don't you try going and asking them 185 00:09:49.070 --> 00:09:51.190 to come back? I think that's I think that's a 186 00:09:51.210 --> 00:09:53.450 better proposition. I think you have a higher probability of 187 00:09:53.490 --> 00:09:56.789 success of getting somebody that's with you. But like you said, 188 00:09:56.830 --> 00:09:59.669 they are so disgusted in being told one thing and. 189 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:02.639 then there's no follow through on it. Or it's like, 190 00:10:02.820 --> 00:10:06.110 say anything to get elected. But where are the results? 191 00:10:06.289 --> 00:10:08.909 And they're tired of being betrayed. And I hear that 192 00:10:08.970 --> 00:10:12.610 betrayal comment, you know, all the time. It's like, you know, 193 00:10:12.649 --> 00:10:15.009 why should I do? Why should I get involved? They're 194 00:10:15.049 --> 00:10:17.710 just going to let us down. So that's why we 195 00:10:17.750 --> 00:10:19.509 have a standard now. At least we can say, hey, 196 00:10:19.830 --> 00:10:23.820 you know, and, you know, there are some prominent politicians 197 00:10:23.879 --> 00:10:27.100 here locally in the county level who I have great 198 00:10:27.139 --> 00:10:30.940 respect for. We're not asking you to take an oath, right? OK, 199 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:33.019 you know, so, you know, you don't have to like 200 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:34.899 raise your hand and, you know, put your other one 201 00:10:34.940 --> 00:10:37.340 on the Bible and say, I'm going to follow the 202 00:10:37.419 --> 00:10:42.110 GOP platform or, you know, you know. or I can't 203 00:10:42.129 --> 00:10:43.950 be a Republican. No, we're not saying that. What we're 204 00:10:43.970 --> 00:10:45.500 saying is when you have a chance to advocate for 205 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:48.019 a position, make sure you do it. Stand with us, 206 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:51.240 you know, and don't try to court the other side 207 00:10:51.279 --> 00:10:53.379 by betraying us. We, you know, we have to have 208 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:55.399 a standard. We have to have a measuring stick to 209 00:10:55.440 --> 00:10:58.720 evaluate people on. And also, our volunteers' time is just 210 00:10:58.779 --> 00:11:01.399 as valuable as the politicians' time that, I don't know 211 00:11:01.419 --> 00:11:04.059 what they do day to day, but, you know, but 212 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:06.830 a lot of volunteer time, a lot of volunteer money 213 00:11:07.070 --> 00:11:10.809 goes into these things, and we want results. And You know, 214 00:11:10.870 --> 00:11:13.470 for myself as the chair to get people to, you know, 215 00:11:13.490 --> 00:11:14.990 to work on behalf of the party and work on 216 00:11:15.029 --> 00:11:17.029 behalf of these politicians who I get calls from all 217 00:11:17.049 --> 00:11:19.269 the time. Hey, can I get door knockers? Can I get, 218 00:11:19.330 --> 00:11:20.950 you know, this person to come to this event or 219 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:23.580 that event? It's getting very hard to do because that, 220 00:11:23.620 --> 00:11:25.820 you know, that trust factor is just not there anymore. 221 00:11:26.769 --> 00:11:30.210 I think that's incredibly well said. And to any elected 222 00:11:30.250 --> 00:11:34.409 officials watching this, I think that's good advice for you. Like, hey, 223 00:11:34.690 --> 00:11:39.169 get back to the base. Get back to those disillusioned voters. Rob, 224 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:42.820 let me ask you something, because this purity test, and 225 00:11:42.840 --> 00:11:44.960 that's the name of the episode for it, but that 226 00:11:44.980 --> 00:11:47.720 was screaming from the headlines, a purity test as far 227 00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:53.580 as Republicans are concerned. I find that argument to be bunk, personally. 228 00:11:53.899 --> 00:11:56.460 And I wanted to ask you this. If If the 229 00:11:56.539 --> 00:12:00.639 Spokane GOP had decided upon a purity test for those 230 00:12:00.659 --> 00:12:03.600 that were going to be associated with the party, why 231 00:12:03.659 --> 00:12:08.470 would a very open libertarian platform– I mean I'm very 232 00:12:08.590 --> 00:12:11.049 open about that. Church and state is a libertarian platform. 233 00:12:11.649 --> 00:12:14.070 Would I not fail that purity test? Why would you 234 00:12:14.110 --> 00:12:17.730 invite me to cover the Spokane Convention? Why would you 235 00:12:18.190 --> 00:12:20.250 be a constant guest on this show? Why would you 236 00:12:20.289 --> 00:12:22.730 have me cover other events that you guys have done? 237 00:12:23.429 --> 00:12:25.149 Wouldn't I have failed that purity test? 238 00:12:25.370 --> 00:12:27.450 Well, I think this is a hypothetical because there's no 239 00:12:27.490 --> 00:12:28.610 purity test. Is that right? 240 00:12:28.750 --> 00:12:29.220 Exactly. 241 00:12:29.289 --> 00:12:32.379 Okay. So hypothetically— If there were a purity test, it 242 00:12:32.399 --> 00:12:35.750 would be a purity test for that 10% that we 243 00:12:35.769 --> 00:12:41.529 just will not compromise on. Primarily, the sanctity of life. 244 00:12:41.789 --> 00:12:45.190 All life is valuable from the moment of conception until 245 00:12:45.750 --> 00:12:50.799 natural death. We don't want to evolve into one of 246 00:12:50.860 --> 00:12:54.500 these societies, let's say like Canada, like, hey, grandma, you're 247 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:57.919 no longer paying taxes, so it's time to euthanize you. 248 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:02.000 We don't want that. Yeah. You know, I said that 249 00:13:02.009 --> 00:13:05.240 would probably be something that was in it. But the 250 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:07.679 purity test issue is really coming up from our local 251 00:13:07.700 --> 00:13:11.620 politicians about taxes. Okay, that was the main argument you 252 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:13.639 were there. Would you agree with that? They were arguing 253 00:13:13.659 --> 00:13:16.779 over the taxes. So one of the arguments was, you know, 254 00:13:16.980 --> 00:13:20.519 the bond for the new jail that I think has 255 00:13:20.539 --> 00:13:22.159 failed three times. Don't quote me on that, but I 256 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:24.740 believe it's three times, maybe twice. But it has failed 257 00:13:24.779 --> 00:13:26.179 in the past. It can't get to 60% on that thing. 258 00:13:27.889 --> 00:13:31.879 And okay. Is there a purity test? If, if you're, um, if, 259 00:13:32.039 --> 00:13:35.919 if you're a, uh, the auditor for Spokane County, are 260 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:38.889 we forcing you to take an oath, um, to no 261 00:13:38.950 --> 00:13:40.049 new taxes for the jail? 262 00:13:40.149 --> 00:13:40.409 No. 263 00:13:41.149 --> 00:13:45.360 Um, What we're saying is before you slap a new tax, 264 00:13:45.460 --> 00:13:47.940 because if you if you look at your property tax bill, 265 00:13:48.059 --> 00:13:51.059 it is just laden with levies and bonds. Now, it's 266 00:13:51.179 --> 00:13:55.299 it's it's unaffordable. It absolutely is. It's crushing people. And 267 00:13:55.320 --> 00:13:57.500 these I don't know if these people are like not 268 00:13:57.559 --> 00:14:00.159 aware of it or or what. I mean, do they 269 00:14:00.210 --> 00:14:02.850 think that message resonates with people that can barely pay 270 00:14:02.889 --> 00:14:06.509 their taxes that they want to give them another tax? No, 271 00:14:06.629 --> 00:14:09.200 it's a horrible message. So what we're asking them to do, 272 00:14:09.299 --> 00:14:12.360 and maybe this is the purity test, before you do that, 273 00:14:13.379 --> 00:14:15.120 why don't you go look at stuff that's not working 274 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:18.159 and see how much you can save to pay for 275 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:20.580 it before you ask us for more money? Because guess what? 276 00:14:21.179 --> 00:14:23.529 We're done paying more money. It's not going to pass. 277 00:14:23.990 --> 00:14:26.309 No matter how you sugarcoat it, it's not going to 278 00:14:26.350 --> 00:14:28.169 pass unless you show us how you're going to cut 279 00:14:28.190 --> 00:14:30.909 in other areas. And, you know, coming up on this 280 00:14:30.950 --> 00:14:34.889 will be the Central Valley– school board levy that's coming up, 281 00:14:34.929 --> 00:14:38.080 which is already catching fire. It's all over social media already. 282 00:14:39.259 --> 00:14:41.419 You know, one of their board members, you know, I 283 00:14:41.460 --> 00:14:43.799 think voted for it. Maybe I don't know what I 284 00:14:43.820 --> 00:14:45.399 didn't look at the vote, but then came out and 285 00:14:45.419 --> 00:14:49.159 did very dramatic speech against it, you know, at the 286 00:14:49.210 --> 00:14:52.789 board meeting people. I mean, I'm getting already getting calls 287 00:14:52.870 --> 00:14:55.950 and feedback on this. We're done supporting those things. And 288 00:14:56.049 --> 00:14:58.350 one of our resolutions is to raise that threshold back 289 00:14:58.389 --> 00:15:00.509 up to 60%, which we talked about on the last show, 290 00:15:01.009 --> 00:15:06.120 so that the person that's, you know, the 50.001 vote 291 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:09.179 for it doesn't get to tax all of us. I mean, 292 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:10.879 that's really, if you go back to the history of 293 00:15:10.940 --> 00:15:13.440 our country, taxation without representation, they're going to say, yeah, 294 00:15:13.500 --> 00:15:16.720 majority voted for it. Yeah, but half of us don't 295 00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:18.440 vote for it, and we have to pay it anyway, 296 00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:19.519 and we're done with that as well. 297 00:15:20.350 --> 00:15:23.659 So, Rob, are you suggesting that the Republican Party, a 298 00:15:24.139 --> 00:15:27.250 party that's supposed to be about lower taxes and reducing government, 299 00:15:27.769 --> 00:15:28.649 should actually do that? 300 00:15:29.350 --> 00:15:31.870 Should actually lower taxes and reduce government. 301 00:15:31.909 --> 00:15:32.090 Yeah. 302 00:15:32.429 --> 00:15:32.690 Yeah. 303 00:15:32.870 --> 00:15:34.149 You know, and I think I said this on the 304 00:15:34.190 --> 00:15:36.049 last show, the first thing they need to do is 305 00:15:36.090 --> 00:15:38.070 look at personnel. Personnel are your biggest cost. 306 00:15:38.350 --> 00:15:38.610 Okay. 307 00:15:38.990 --> 00:15:41.009 And then along with those personnel go the programs that 308 00:15:41.029 --> 00:15:42.889 they run. And if you don't need those personnel, because 309 00:15:42.909 --> 00:15:44.950 the programs are ineffective, then you kill two with one, 310 00:15:45.169 --> 00:15:47.100 two birds with one stone. You're not buying material. You're 311 00:15:47.120 --> 00:15:49.759 not wasting money for it. You're not doing the never ending. Oh, 312 00:15:49.799 --> 00:15:52.700 let's do a study and find out, you know, if 313 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:53.820 it's worth doing it. 314 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:55.399 Which by the way, those studies cost money. 315 00:15:55.740 --> 00:15:59.360 Of course. So, I mean, yeah, let's give a purchase 316 00:15:59.460 --> 00:16:02.100 order to a think tank to tell us something that we, 317 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:04.759 like just an average person can say, hey, that's a 318 00:16:04.860 --> 00:16:05.519 dumb idea. 319 00:16:05.539 --> 00:16:09.169 I mean, you were just talking about volunteers. I guarantee 320 00:16:09.190 --> 00:16:11.409 you there's a lot of volunteers in the GOP that'd 321 00:16:11.450 --> 00:16:15.149 be more than happy to donate their time to being 322 00:16:15.230 --> 00:16:19.470 part of a independent volunteer think tank on any given 323 00:16:19.509 --> 00:16:20.450 subject within government. 324 00:16:20.610 --> 00:16:21.129 Absolutely. 325 00:16:21.490 --> 00:16:21.669 Yeah. 326 00:16:22.490 --> 00:16:24.210 It wouldn't take years to get the answer. 327 00:16:24.470 --> 00:16:25.870 No, it wouldn't. It'd be one meeting. 328 00:16:26.129 --> 00:16:26.750 Yeah. 329 00:16:26.809 --> 00:16:28.710 Maybe you'd have to bring in some donuts to feed them. 330 00:16:29.070 --> 00:16:31.669 But other than that, yeah, it'd be basically free. And 331 00:16:31.690 --> 00:16:34.129 they'd tell you, no, we don't like this. It doesn't work. 332 00:16:34.529 --> 00:16:38.259 And these think tanks, which are typically at the national scale, 333 00:16:38.299 --> 00:16:41.960 you know, they say, well, Baltimore did this. We're not Baltimore. 334 00:16:42.259 --> 00:16:43.340 It may not work for us. 335 00:16:43.879 --> 00:16:44.039 I know. 336 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:45.559 It's crazy. It's really crazy. 337 00:16:45.740 --> 00:16:46.620 Yeah. Wow. 338 00:16:46.799 --> 00:16:51.309 So in typical fashion— you're getting attacked. And I was 339 00:16:51.350 --> 00:16:56.080 actually sitting there and watching as we're streaming this, and 340 00:16:56.159 --> 00:17:00.940 I'm genuinely amused by everything around me. That's just my personality. 341 00:17:01.539 --> 00:17:04.319 And I was watching as the attacks lined up against you. Now, 342 00:17:04.619 --> 00:17:06.779 I wasn't amused that you were getting attacked. I was 343 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:09.960 just amused because it's politics. And I knew it was 344 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:12.880 going to fail, but I could watch it be engineered 345 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:15.509 against you. I could see the players that were coming 346 00:17:15.569 --> 00:17:18.599 out against you. But what I was overjoyed with was 347 00:17:18.619 --> 00:17:20.200 how much support you actually had in this. 348 00:17:20.500 --> 00:17:20.779 Yeah. 349 00:17:21.099 --> 00:17:23.880 There were about, I would say, roughly 10 people who 350 00:17:23.980 --> 00:17:27.079 coordinated what you were just talking about. In fact, there 351 00:17:27.099 --> 00:17:31.220 were four in particular that wanted to disrupt the proceeding 352 00:17:31.619 --> 00:17:35.019 right from the beginning. I knew it was coming. I 353 00:17:35.900 --> 00:17:38.410 hired private security to make sure there was no liability 354 00:17:38.430 --> 00:17:40.190 for the party as far as, oh, no, you laid 355 00:17:40.210 --> 00:17:41.609 your hands on me to throw me out of the 356 00:17:41.630 --> 00:17:44.509 building or whatever. I've already been called back saying, you know, 357 00:17:44.549 --> 00:17:48.109 they're going to try to sue me because I violated 358 00:17:48.150 --> 00:17:52.069 the Public Meetings Act. I'm like, we're a private corporation. 359 00:17:52.730 --> 00:17:55.049 That was a private event. That was not a public meeting. 360 00:17:55.089 --> 00:17:57.490 So go ahead, do that. But, yeah, there were some 361 00:17:57.519 --> 00:17:59.319 people there. But just to kind of put it in perspective, 362 00:17:59.359 --> 00:18:06.859 you know, the platform, the platform passed 159 to 3, okay, 363 00:18:07.180 --> 00:18:11.789 with nine abstentions. Okay, that's greater than 95%. Okay. Is 364 00:18:11.849 --> 00:18:12.430 it perfect? 365 00:18:12.509 --> 00:18:12.769 No. 366 00:18:12.809 --> 00:18:14.890 I mean, and you know what? Going forward, it could 367 00:18:14.930 --> 00:18:18.339 be amended. I mean, the biggest and most ridiculous argument 368 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:21.299 against passing the platform was from a couple people that 369 00:18:21.319 --> 00:18:22.960 said they live out in the sticks and they don't 370 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:23.920 got good broadband. 371 00:18:25.589 --> 00:18:25.829 Right. 372 00:18:26.089 --> 00:18:28.210 So they wanted to postpone it for two years because. 373 00:18:28.799 --> 00:18:30.480 But then I first thing that came to my mind 374 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:32.940 was I thought like right before she retired from Congress, 375 00:18:32.960 --> 00:18:36.779 Kathy McMorris Rogers said that the Rural Broadband Act, I believe, 376 00:18:36.900 --> 00:18:39.720 billions of dollars. Shouldn't all those people have ditches with 377 00:18:39.789 --> 00:18:42.670 coax cable going to their huts or wherever they live 378 00:18:42.890 --> 00:18:45.890 by this point? Where'd that money go? Yeah, good question. 379 00:18:45.990 --> 00:18:48.529 And since then, because I work in tech, but since then, 380 00:18:48.569 --> 00:18:52.839 you no longer lead Comcast broadband. You can get Starlink. 381 00:18:52.900 --> 00:18:53.880 It's very effective. 382 00:18:53.940 --> 00:18:55.460 Rob, you know I live out in the sticks. 383 00:18:56.039 --> 00:18:57.720 I do, too. I live on top of a mountain. 384 00:18:57.740 --> 00:19:00.089 You do, and I use Starlink, and it works great. 385 00:19:00.250 --> 00:19:02.829 It's great. Yeah, so that was the chief argument. And then, 386 00:19:02.849 --> 00:19:04.950 you know, the resolutions, they tried to break those up, 387 00:19:04.970 --> 00:19:06.769 go through them one by one, which I wasn't against, 388 00:19:06.809 --> 00:19:09.269 and I expected that. And we entertained that, but in 389 00:19:09.289 --> 00:19:13.839 the end, the combined and collective wisdom of the assembly, 390 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:16.680 all the delegates that were assembled voted against that. They 391 00:19:16.720 --> 00:19:19.319 passed the resolutions, and I believe the vote on the 392 00:19:19.380 --> 00:19:22.140 resolutions was like a 90 to 10 when you do 393 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:27.039 the numbers, something like that. you know, 144, 140, you know, yeas. 394 00:19:27.980 --> 00:19:31.240 I think there were like maybe nine nos, and there 395 00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:35.549 were 19 abstentions or something like that. And so that 396 00:19:35.569 --> 00:19:38.750 thing overwhelmingly passed. And then we considered some, you know, 397 00:19:39.190 --> 00:19:41.750 some amplifying resolutions, we call them where people wanted more 398 00:19:41.789 --> 00:19:45.730 detail than what we had in the packet itself. None 399 00:19:45.750 --> 00:19:49.980 of those passed, and that's fine. But bottom line was, 400 00:19:50.190 --> 00:19:54.220 everybody's voice was heard within reason and within time. But 401 00:19:54.259 --> 00:19:56.019