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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's continue, Bill Cunningham. The great American, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the great thinkers and philosophers I call her in American

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<v Speaker 1>life today is Heather McDonald's and she's written many books

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<v Speaker 1>on the subject of race and merit. What's happening to

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<v Speaker 1>urban areas. I think there's been a slight turn in

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<v Speaker 1>the right direction. We'll see what occurs. A new book

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<v Speaker 1>is coming is out when race Trump's merit, But more importantly,

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<v Speaker 1>Heather McDonald, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. You

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<v Speaker 1>have a posting about what happened in California, because we're

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<v Speaker 1>often told what happens in California will come to Iowa,

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio and Georgia down the road. But what happened to

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<v Speaker 1>George Gascone and Pamela Price in California, Why that might

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<v Speaker 1>be a slight turn in the right direction by the

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<v Speaker 1>citizens of California.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's great to be with you Bill again. They

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<v Speaker 2>were finally held accountable for performing their jobs, which they

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<v Speaker 2>have utterly failed to do. George Gascon, the prosecutor, the

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<v Speaker 2>deep District attorney in Los Angeles County, has twice faced

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<v Speaker 2>recall efforts that failed failed allegedly didn't get enough signatures.

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<v Speaker 2>The day he took office, he sparked a revolt among

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<v Speaker 2>the longstanding district attorneys in his office because he issued

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<v Speaker 2>proclamations that basically said, we're going to stop enforcing the

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<v Speaker 2>law because if we do so, it will have a

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<v Speaker 2>disparate impact on black criminals. So there's been extreme dissatisfaction

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<v Speaker 2>among people that are officially and truly committed to the

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<v Speaker 2>rule of law for since he was in office. But

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<v Speaker 2>he's managed to escape. This time. He was booted out,

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<v Speaker 2>elected out to a very moderate challenger, Nate Hawkman, by

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<v Speaker 2>a massive percentage. Two thirds of the voters voted for Hawkman,

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<v Speaker 2>and Gascon had initially had a of sorrows money behind him,

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<v Speaker 2>this time he got almost none. Even the sorrows people

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<v Speaker 2>were realistic to know that la had seen so many

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<v Speaker 2>of the mass looting events, so many of the street takeovers,

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<v Speaker 2>so many of these flash mobs that come into seven

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<v Speaker 2>elevens and strip them like a horde of locusts, knowing

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<v Speaker 2>the participants, knowing that there will be no consequences, that

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<v Speaker 2>he's out. And then in Alameda County, which is the

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<v Speaker 2>East Bay area east of San Francisco, whose county seat

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<v Speaker 2>is Oakland, which is itself right next to Berkeley, California.

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<v Speaker 2>They put in several two years ago an extremely left

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<v Speaker 2>wing prosecutor named Pamela Price, who again, this is all

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<v Speaker 2>about race, Bill, Everything going on in the criminal justice

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<v Speaker 2>system for the last twelve years is all about race.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't know that, you're not going to understand

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on. It's all about decriminalizing and deprosecuting because

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<v Speaker 2>if you enforce the law in a color blind, constitutional

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<v Speaker 2>neutral fashion, you will have a disparate impact on black criminals.

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<v Speaker 2>Not because the law is racist, but because the black

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<v Speaker 2>crime rate is so high, and we have decided collectively

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<v Speaker 2>as a society somehow that we would rather not enforce

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<v Speaker 2>the law at all, that enforce it and have a

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<v Speaker 2>disparate impact on blacks. So Pamela Price comes in and

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<v Speaker 2>she's all about racial justice too, and she says, we're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to prosecute fiendish juvenile homicide gang members as

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<v Speaker 2>adults because that would be have a disparate impact. We're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to put on sentencing enhancements to the most

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<v Speaker 2>gruesome gang murders because that will have a disparate impact.

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<v Speaker 2>And she this time she faced an actual recall that

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<v Speaker 2>was successful. Earlier in her term, the NAACP from Oakland

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<v Speaker 2>called for the national emergency to be called because crime

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<v Speaker 2>had gotten so out of control. You had long standing

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<v Speaker 2>businesses around the Oakland Airport, like in and out Burger

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<v Speaker 2>Target that had been there for decades that pulled out

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<v Speaker 2>because they said, we can't guarantee the safety of our

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<v Speaker 2>employees or customers any longer. Pamela Price denied this was

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<v Speaker 2>a problem, and she helps firm to her racial justice agenda.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you have two of the most liberal cities

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<v Speaker 2>in the country and counties finally saying enough is enough.

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<v Speaker 2>And so this is a very good sign. Bill. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not usually an optimist, right and I always thought that

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<v Speaker 2>liberals would put up endlessly with crime and disorder because

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<v Speaker 2>they're so committed to their ideology. But it turns out

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<v Speaker 2>that finally there is a limit.

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<v Speaker 1>And the great number of victims of the disparate impact

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<v Speaker 1>argument are also black victims and are also persons of color.

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<v Speaker 1>They're the ones who voted out these left wing prosecutors

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<v Speaker 1>because black mom and dads and family members, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to live in a society we're tolerating crime and

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<v Speaker 1>urban squalors as part of the cost of business. The

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<v Speaker 1>black voter supports you and I and also those who

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<v Speaker 1>kicked out these prosecutors. Correct, this isn't black against white.

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<v Speaker 1>These are criminals against victims.

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<v Speaker 2>That's absolutely true. Now, you know, one can be a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit too rosy about that. There still is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>supporting the black community for racial victimology. But as I say,

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<v Speaker 2>it was very significant that the NAACP in Oakland said

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<v Speaker 2>enough is enough. We're in an emergency situation here and

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<v Speaker 2>we need strong law enforcement. So yes, nobody wants to

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's amazing to me how racist the media is.

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<v Speaker 2>There are every single day in the country, there are

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<v Speaker 2>dozens of blacks getting gunned down in these insane drive

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<v Speaker 2>by shootings. Nobody ever talks about them. Those black lives

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<v Speaker 2>don't matter a damn bit to the mainstream media. Why

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<v Speaker 2>aided the races too, because they're killed by other blacks,

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<v Speaker 2>And the only blacks that the mainstream media is interested

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<v Speaker 2>in talking about is that handful of blacks that are

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<v Speaker 2>shot by a cop. Usually the cop is shooting in

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<v Speaker 2>self defense, are trying to protect other people. But otherwise

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<v Speaker 2>this slaughter that's going on in our cities. Every day

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<v Speaker 2>is out of sight, out of mind.

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<v Speaker 1>No question about. I hear the sirens in the background here,

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<v Speaker 1>then another event's taking place and where you live. But

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<v Speaker 1>most importantly what's occurring is that whether it's in Louisville

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<v Speaker 1>and I have a friend of mine named Stu Matthews

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<v Speaker 1>who's who represented one of those cops, they will pursue

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<v Speaker 1>a white cop to the ends of the earth if

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<v Speaker 1>they make a wrong, split second decision or one that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe negligently might be wrong, and they will pursue him constantly.

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<v Speaker 1>But twenty thousand black men can gun down twenty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>other black men on a regular basis and there's no

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<v Speaker 1>big deal at all. What are the facts and the

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<v Speaker 1>statistics of being killed at the handsome police? Can you

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<v Speaker 1>tell the American people be goes you speak so forcibly

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<v Speaker 1>about this, Give us the facts on cops who kill

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<v Speaker 1>black men and also white men and other What are

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<v Speaker 2>Well, blacks, there's about eight to ten thousand homicide victims

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<v Speaker 2>a year who were black. That's more than all white

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<v Speaker 2>and Hispanic homicide victims combined, even though Blacks are only

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen percent of the population. So and those eight to

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<v Speaker 2>ten thousand black homicide victims dozens a day. Dozens of

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<v Speaker 2>blacks killed a day, more than all white and Hispanics

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<v Speaker 2>killed a day. They are killed overwhelmingly by other blacks.

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<v Speaker 2>The number of blacks who are killed by a police

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<v Speaker 2>officer every year is about two hundred and fifty. The

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<v Speaker 2>vast majority of those are armed and dangerous. The number

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<v Speaker 2>of whites killed by a police officer every year is

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<v Speaker 2>about five hundred, so twice as men whites are killed

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<v Speaker 2>by blacks. Now that is disproportionate because blacks are thirteen percent.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the key.

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<v Speaker 1>When what is what.

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<v Speaker 2>Predicts the police officer's use of force or legal force

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<v Speaker 2>is the likelihood of confronting armed, violent, and resisting suspects.

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<v Speaker 2>That happens overwhelmingly in black neighborhoods because of the crime rate.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as unarmed so called unarmed blacks, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to bracket that bill because the unarmed category comes

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<v Speaker 2>from the Washington Post database of fatal police shootings, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Washington Post declares unarmed very very loosely. Somebody, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're suspect trying to grab an officer's gun, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>not your gun, you're unarmed. So the number of blacks

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<v Speaker 2>who are killed by the police. Unarmed blacks who are

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<v Speaker 2>killed by the police every year is about twelve to fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Compare that to eight thousand to ten thousand black homicide victims.

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<v Speaker 2>A police office is four hundred times more likely to

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<v Speaker 2>be killed by a black male than an unarmed black

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<v Speaker 2>is to be killed by a police officer. Historically, blacks

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<v Speaker 2>have made up about forty to forty two percent of

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<v Speaker 2>all cop killers black males have even though they're six

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the population. So if you want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about threat in the police black mail encounter, it is

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<v Speaker 2>overwhelmingly to police officers and not to black So to.

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<v Speaker 1>Put a sharper point on what you just said, from

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<v Speaker 1>FBI statistics, there are twice as many white men killed

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<v Speaker 1>by police every year than black men. And secondly, there's

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<v Speaker 1>about eight thousand black owned black crimes victims. Every year,

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<v Speaker 1>eight thousand black men are killed, But the total number

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<v Speaker 1>of questionable police shootings is between twelve and fifteen not

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<v Speaker 1>twelve to fifteen thousand. The number is twelve to fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>in the entire country, with literally tens of millions of

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<v Speaker 1>contacts every year between law enforcement and the black community

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of millions every time somebody's pulled overstop whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>might be, but twice as likely to be killed by

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<v Speaker 1>a cop if you're white. And secondly, twelve to fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>questionable shootings as opposed to eight thousand black men killing

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<v Speaker 1>other black men, which the media will not deal with.

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<v Speaker 1>Are those facts to.

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<v Speaker 2>Boil it down? For that we're living a lie, the

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<v Speaker 2>idea of a war on blacks that we've heard from

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<v Speaker 2>President Obama, that we heard from from Obama, from Biden,

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, black parents are right to fill fear

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<v Speaker 2>that their child will be killed by a police officer

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<v Speaker 2>every time they go outside. That is utter lie and deception. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>guess what Black juveniles in the post George Floyd rac

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<v Speaker 2>hysteria riot world, black juveniles are one hundred times more

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<v Speaker 2>likely to be shot than white juveniles. Why because black

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<v Speaker 2>juveniles are more likely to shoot at one hundred times

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<v Speaker 2>the rate. Blacks between the ages of ten and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four die of gun homicide at twenty five times the

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<v Speaker 2>rate of whites in those cohorts. That is, because they're

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<v Speaker 2>committing crime at those rates. That's the threat to black

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<v Speaker 2>children is the black gang bangers that we're told we

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<v Speaker 2>can't incarc rate because that would be racist.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Heather MacDonald, in your book, when Race Trump's Merit,

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<v Speaker 1>explain what that book is about, it's all over the

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<v Speaker 1>place when you say the book is When Race Trump's Merit,

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<v Speaker 1>explain that to the American people.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's the same concept we've been talking about, Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>which is that any racial disparity, according to elite wisdom,

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<v Speaker 2>is by definition a result of racism, and therefore any

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<v Speaker 2>behavioral or intellectual meritocratic standard that has a disparate impact

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<v Speaker 2>on blacks must be torn down. So, for instance, we

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<v Speaker 2>find that black pudents don't do as well on the

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<v Speaker 2>medical college admissions tests to get into medical school MCATs,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we've declared those must be racist tests, even

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<v Speaker 2>though they're colorblind, computer graded, stripped of any possible racial overtones.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because the reason blacks don't do as well is

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<v Speaker 2>because their academic skills are way way behind. Only sixty

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<v Speaker 2>six percent of black twelfth graders don't possess even partial

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<v Speaker 2>mastery of basic twelfth grade maths like reading a graph

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<v Speaker 2>or doing arithmetic. Sixty six percent of black twelfth graders

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<v Speaker 2>possess basically no math skills. And then we've turned around

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<v Speaker 2>and say, well, if they're not passing the m CATS proportionally,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a racist test. So what we do is we

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<v Speaker 2>tear down standards. We're tearing down standards for medical school,

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<v Speaker 2>for medical training because race Trump's merit. We're saying we

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<v Speaker 2>would rather not have tests of medical knowledge than have

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<v Speaker 2>a test that has a disparate impact on blacks. Is

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<v Speaker 2>going on in every research lab, scientific research lab that

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<v Speaker 2>a're hiring on the basis of race, not merit. It's

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<v Speaker 2>going on, as I say, in the criminal justice system.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going on in the federal judiciary. You had Biden

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<v Speaker 2>elevating black females to the federal bench at rates way

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<v Speaker 2>out of proportion to their population in the pool of

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<v Speaker 2>available lawyers. And that's not even taking into account the

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<v Speaker 2>skills gap. We have decided that we would rather put

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<v Speaker 2>racial diversity ahead of competence, ahead of excellence, ahead of achievement.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just hope that from the day he takes office,

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump says enough, I am going to extirpate the

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<v Speaker 2>disparate impact standard from every federal regulation. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>work with Congress to take it out of statutes. From

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<v Speaker 2>here on, we care about one thing, and one thing only.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you do the job. I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>promoted because I'm female. Female is not an accomplishment, and

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<v Speaker 2>being black is not an accomplishment. Being gay is not

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<v Speaker 2>an accomplishment. I know what accomplishment is. It's learning language,

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<v Speaker 2>it's learning it's learning mathematics, it's learning reasoning. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>only thing that should matter.

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<v Speaker 1>And Heather MacDonald, the number one racial group when all

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<v Speaker 1>these tests are taken are not Whites, They're Asians. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>the tests supposedly provide Asians because of faith and family

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<v Speaker 1>and parents demand educational achievement. Of course, democrats are largely

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<v Speaker 1>in charge of urban public education, which is an unmitigated disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>But nonetheless, it's also true that Asians, another minority, do

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<v Speaker 1>better than white boys and girls, men and women, and

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<v Speaker 1>Asians is a small racial category that succeeds magnificently. So

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<v Speaker 1>the argument that this is racism while it's racist against

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<v Speaker 1>Asians correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely right. The idea of this is white supremacy, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we haven't done a very good job at it because

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<v Speaker 2>Asians are whooping our and you can absolutely see it

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<v Speaker 2>in the family culture. The parents are riding those children

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<v Speaker 2>from day one. You will study, you will learn, you

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<v Speaker 2>will get into Harvard, and Harvard keeps raising the bars.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's harder and harder to get in into your

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<v Speaker 2>Asian It's no longer enough to play two instruments like

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<v Speaker 2>a professional. It's no longer enough to score perfect score

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen hundreds on your sads. You have to know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, God what you have to prove that you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be totally left wing, presumably to get in.

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<v Speaker 2>And rather than saying lower the standards on our behalf,

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<v Speaker 2>which is what the black civil rights leaders do, they say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll meet your standards. You keep raising them, we'll meet them.

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<v Speaker 1>Unbelievable. It's about faith and family and good parenting. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not about race. Once again, Heather McDonald, you're a great American.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not wait two years to do this again. The

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<v Speaker 1>book is when race Trump's merit, you come with the facts,

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<v Speaker 1>you come with the receipts. And once again, Heather McDonald,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's have a great four years at Donald Trumper. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>pull out Ei by the roots and get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>the disparate racial impact studies, which is not as you say,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not an accomplishment to be gay, it's not an

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<v Speaker 1>accomplishment to be a female, it's not an accomplishment to

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<v Speaker 1>be an Indian or a black, and let's get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of that. I think Trump's going to do it, don't you, Heather?

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<v Speaker 1>I do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm actually for once optimistic in my life. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you imagine if we had twelve years of EOP rule,

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<v Speaker 2>I like to be still my heart, we would save

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<v Speaker 2>the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, thank god, Heather McDonald. Once again, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Heather,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a great American. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much. Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's continue, never stop. We simply continue. Asians do well,

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<v Speaker 1>do great on these tests, but we have to White

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<v Speaker 1>supremacy fails because Asians succeed. Do you buy that argument?

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<v Speaker 1>Bill cunning and the Great American with you every day.

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