Speaker 1: Okay, let's continue, Bill Cunningham. The great American, one of
Speaker 1: the great thinkers and philosophers I call her in American
Speaker 1: life today is Heather McDonald's and she's written many books
Speaker 1: on the subject of race and merit. What's happening to
Speaker 1: urban areas. I think there's been a slight turn in
Speaker 1: the right direction. We'll see what occurs. A new book
Speaker 1: is coming is out when race Trump's merit, But more importantly,
Speaker 1: Heather McDonald, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. You
Speaker 1: have a posting about what happened in California, because we're
Speaker 1: often told what happens in California will come to Iowa,
Speaker 1: Ohio and Georgia down the road. But what happened to
Speaker 1: George Gascone and Pamela Price in California, Why that might
Speaker 1: be a slight turn in the right direction by the
Speaker 1: citizens of California.
Speaker 2: Well, it's great to be with you Bill again. They
Speaker 2: were finally held accountable for performing their jobs, which they
Speaker 2: have utterly failed to do. George Gascon, the prosecutor, the
Speaker 2: deep District attorney in Los Angeles County, has twice faced
Speaker 2: recall efforts that failed failed allegedly didn't get enough signatures.
Speaker 2: The day he took office, he sparked a revolt among
Speaker 2: the longstanding district attorneys in his office because he issued
Speaker 2: proclamations that basically said, we're going to stop enforcing the
Speaker 2: law because if we do so, it will have a
Speaker 2: disparate impact on black criminals. So there's been extreme dissatisfaction
Speaker 2: among people that are officially and truly committed to the
Speaker 2: rule of law for since he was in office. But
Speaker 2: he's managed to escape. This time. He was booted out,
Speaker 2: elected out to a very moderate challenger, Nate Hawkman, by
Speaker 2: a massive percentage. Two thirds of the voters voted for Hawkman,
Speaker 2: and Gascon had initially had a of sorrows money behind him,
Speaker 2: this time he got almost none. Even the sorrows people
Speaker 2: were realistic to know that la had seen so many
Speaker 2: of the mass looting events, so many of the street takeovers,
Speaker 2: so many of these flash mobs that come into seven
Speaker 2: elevens and strip them like a horde of locusts, knowing
Speaker 2: the participants, knowing that there will be no consequences, that
Speaker 2: he's out. And then in Alameda County, which is the
Speaker 2: East Bay area east of San Francisco, whose county seat
Speaker 2: is Oakland, which is itself right next to Berkeley, California.
Speaker 2: They put in several two years ago an extremely left
Speaker 2: wing prosecutor named Pamela Price, who again, this is all
Speaker 2: about race, Bill, Everything going on in the criminal justice
Speaker 2: system for the last twelve years is all about race.
Speaker 2: If you don't know that, you're not going to understand
Speaker 2: what's going on. It's all about decriminalizing and deprosecuting because
Speaker 2: if you enforce the law in a color blind, constitutional
Speaker 2: neutral fashion, you will have a disparate impact on black criminals.
Speaker 2: Not because the law is racist, but because the black
Speaker 2: crime rate is so high, and we have decided collectively
Speaker 2: as a society somehow that we would rather not enforce
Speaker 2: the law at all, that enforce it and have a
Speaker 2: disparate impact on blacks. So Pamela Price comes in and
Speaker 2: she's all about racial justice too, and she says, we're
Speaker 2: not going to prosecute fiendish juvenile homicide gang members as
Speaker 2: adults because that would be have a disparate impact. We're
Speaker 2: not going to put on sentencing enhancements to the most
Speaker 2: gruesome gang murders because that will have a disparate impact.
Speaker 2: And she this time she faced an actual recall that
Speaker 2: was successful. Earlier in her term, the NAACP from Oakland
Speaker 2: called for the national emergency to be called because crime
Speaker 2: had gotten so out of control. You had long standing
Speaker 2: businesses around the Oakland Airport, like in and out Burger
Speaker 2: Target that had been there for decades that pulled out
Speaker 2: because they said, we can't guarantee the safety of our
Speaker 2: employees or customers any longer. Pamela Price denied this was
Speaker 2: a problem, and she helps firm to her racial justice agenda.
Speaker 2: And so you have two of the most liberal cities
Speaker 2: in the country and counties finally saying enough is enough.
Speaker 2: And so this is a very good sign. Bill. I'm
Speaker 2: not usually an optimist, right and I always thought that
Speaker 2: liberals would put up endlessly with crime and disorder because
Speaker 2: they're so committed to their ideology. But it turns out
Speaker 2: that finally there is a limit.
Speaker 1: And the great number of victims of the disparate impact
Speaker 1: argument are also black victims and are also persons of color.
Speaker 1: They're the ones who voted out these left wing prosecutors
Speaker 1: because black mom and dads and family members, they don't
Speaker 1: want to live in a society we're tolerating crime and
Speaker 1: urban squalors as part of the cost of business. The
Speaker 1: black voter supports you and I and also those who
Speaker 1: kicked out these prosecutors. Correct, this isn't black against white.
Speaker 1: These are criminals against victims.
Speaker 2: That's absolutely true. Now, you know, one can be a
Speaker 2: little bit too rosy about that. There still is you know,
Speaker 2: supporting the black community for racial victimology. But as I say,
Speaker 2: it was very significant that the NAACP in Oakland said
Speaker 2: enough is enough. We're in an emergency situation here and
Speaker 2: we need strong law enforcement. So yes, nobody wants to
Speaker 2: It's it's amazing to me how racist the media is.
Speaker 2: There are every single day in the country, there are
Speaker 2: dozens of blacks getting gunned down in these insane drive
Speaker 2: by shootings. Nobody ever talks about them. Those black lives
Speaker 2: don't matter a damn bit to the mainstream media. Why
Speaker 2: aided the races too, because they're killed by other blacks,
Speaker 2: And the only blacks that the mainstream media is interested
Speaker 2: in talking about is that handful of blacks that are
Speaker 2: shot by a cop. Usually the cop is shooting in
Speaker 2: self defense, are trying to protect other people. But otherwise
Speaker 2: this slaughter that's going on in our cities. Every day
Speaker 2: is out of sight, out of mind.
Speaker 1: No question about. I hear the sirens in the background here,
Speaker 1: then another event's taking place and where you live. But
Speaker 1: most importantly what's occurring is that whether it's in Louisville
Speaker 1: and I have a friend of mine named Stu Matthews
Speaker 1: who's who represented one of those cops, they will pursue
Speaker 1: a white cop to the ends of the earth if
Speaker 1: they make a wrong, split second decision or one that
Speaker 1: maybe negligently might be wrong, and they will pursue him constantly.
Speaker 1: But twenty thousand black men can gun down twenty thousand
Speaker 1: other black men on a regular basis and there's no
Speaker 1: big deal at all. What are the facts and the
Speaker 1: statistics of being killed at the handsome police? Can you
Speaker 1: tell the American people be goes you speak so forcibly
Speaker 1: about this, Give us the facts on cops who kill
Speaker 1: black men and also white men and other What are
Speaker 1: the facts nationally?
Speaker 2: Well, blacks, there's about eight to ten thousand homicide victims
Speaker 2: a year who were black. That's more than all white
Speaker 2: and Hispanic homicide victims combined, even though Blacks are only
Speaker 2: thirteen percent of the population. So and those eight to
Speaker 2: ten thousand black homicide victims dozens a day. Dozens of
Speaker 2: blacks killed a day, more than all white and Hispanics
Speaker 2: killed a day. They are killed overwhelmingly by other blacks.
Speaker 2: The number of blacks who are killed by a police
Speaker 2: officer every year is about two hundred and fifty. The
Speaker 2: vast majority of those are armed and dangerous. The number
Speaker 2: of whites killed by a police officer every year is
Speaker 2: about five hundred, so twice as men whites are killed
Speaker 2: by blacks. Now that is disproportionate because blacks are thirteen percent.
Speaker 2: But here's the key.
Speaker 1: When what is what.
Speaker 2: Predicts the police officer's use of force or legal force
Speaker 2: is the likelihood of confronting armed, violent, and resisting suspects.
Speaker 2: That happens overwhelmingly in black neighborhoods because of the crime rate.
Speaker 2: As far as unarmed so called unarmed blacks, and I'm
Speaker 2: going to bracket that bill because the unarmed category comes
Speaker 2: from the Washington Post database of fatal police shootings, and
Speaker 2: the Washington Post declares unarmed very very loosely. Somebody, if
Speaker 2: you're suspect trying to grab an officer's gun, but it's
Speaker 2: not your gun, you're unarmed. So the number of blacks
Speaker 2: who are killed by the police. Unarmed blacks who are
Speaker 2: killed by the police every year is about twelve to fifteen.
Speaker 2: Compare that to eight thousand to ten thousand black homicide victims.
Speaker 2: A police office is four hundred times more likely to
Speaker 2: be killed by a black male than an unarmed black
Speaker 2: is to be killed by a police officer. Historically, blacks
Speaker 2: have made up about forty to forty two percent of
Speaker 2: all cop killers black males have even though they're six
Speaker 2: percent of the population. So if you want to talk
Speaker 2: about threat in the police black mail encounter, it is
Speaker 2: overwhelmingly to police officers and not to black So to.
Speaker 1: Put a sharper point on what you just said, from
Speaker 1: FBI statistics, there are twice as many white men killed
Speaker 1: by police every year than black men. And secondly, there's
Speaker 1: about eight thousand black owned black crimes victims. Every year,
Speaker 1: eight thousand black men are killed, But the total number
Speaker 1: of questionable police shootings is between twelve and fifteen not
Speaker 1: twelve to fifteen thousand. The number is twelve to fifteen
Speaker 1: in the entire country, with literally tens of millions of
Speaker 1: contacts every year between law enforcement and the black community
Speaker 1: hundreds of millions every time somebody's pulled overstop whatever it
Speaker 1: might be, but twice as likely to be killed by
Speaker 1: a cop if you're white. And secondly, twelve to fifteen
Speaker 1: questionable shootings as opposed to eight thousand black men killing
Speaker 1: other black men, which the media will not deal with.
Speaker 1: Are those facts to.
Speaker 2: Boil it down? For that we're living a lie, the
Speaker 2: idea of a war on blacks that we've heard from
Speaker 2: President Obama, that we heard from from Obama, from Biden,
Speaker 2: that you know, black parents are right to fill fear
Speaker 2: that their child will be killed by a police officer
Speaker 2: every time they go outside. That is utter lie and deception. Yes,
Speaker 2: guess what Black juveniles in the post George Floyd rac
Speaker 2: hysteria riot world, black juveniles are one hundred times more
Speaker 2: likely to be shot than white juveniles. Why because black
Speaker 2: juveniles are more likely to shoot at one hundred times
Speaker 2: the rate. Blacks between the ages of ten and twenty
Speaker 2: four die of gun homicide at twenty five times the
Speaker 2: rate of whites in those cohorts. That is, because they're
Speaker 2: committing crime at those rates. That's the threat to black
Speaker 2: children is the black gang bangers that we're told we
Speaker 2: can't incarc rate because that would be racist.
Speaker 1: Ben Heather MacDonald, in your book, when Race Trump's Merit,
Speaker 1: explain what that book is about, it's all over the
Speaker 1: place when you say the book is When Race Trump's Merit,
Speaker 1: explain that to the American people.
Speaker 2: Well, it's the same concept we've been talking about, Bill,
Speaker 2: which is that any racial disparity, according to elite wisdom,
Speaker 2: is by definition a result of racism, and therefore any
Speaker 2: behavioral or intellectual meritocratic standard that has a disparate impact
Speaker 2: on blacks must be torn down. So, for instance, we
Speaker 2: find that black pudents don't do as well on the
Speaker 2: medical college admissions tests to get into medical school MCATs,
Speaker 2: and so we've declared those must be racist tests, even
Speaker 2: though they're colorblind, computer graded, stripped of any possible racial overtones.
Speaker 2: It's because the reason blacks don't do as well is
Speaker 2: because their academic skills are way way behind. Only sixty
Speaker 2: six percent of black twelfth graders don't possess even partial
Speaker 2: mastery of basic twelfth grade maths like reading a graph
Speaker 2: or doing arithmetic. Sixty six percent of black twelfth graders
Speaker 2: possess basically no math skills. And then we've turned around
Speaker 2: and say, well, if they're not passing the m CATS proportionally,
Speaker 2: it's a racist test. So what we do is we
Speaker 2: tear down standards. We're tearing down standards for medical school,
Speaker 2: for medical training because race Trump's merit. We're saying we
Speaker 2: would rather not have tests of medical knowledge than have
Speaker 2: a test that has a disparate impact on blacks. Is
Speaker 2: going on in every research lab, scientific research lab that
Speaker 2: a're hiring on the basis of race, not merit. It's
Speaker 2: going on, as I say, in the criminal justice system.
Speaker 2: It's going on in the federal judiciary. You had Biden
Speaker 2: elevating black females to the federal bench at rates way
Speaker 2: out of proportion to their population in the pool of
Speaker 2: available lawyers. And that's not even taking into account the
Speaker 2: skills gap. We have decided that we would rather put
Speaker 2: racial diversity ahead of competence, ahead of excellence, ahead of achievement.
Speaker 2: And I just hope that from the day he takes office,
Speaker 2: Donald Trump says enough, I am going to extirpate the
Speaker 2: disparate impact standard from every federal regulation. I'm going to
Speaker 2: work with Congress to take it out of statutes. From
Speaker 2: here on, we care about one thing, and one thing only.
Speaker 2: Can you do the job. I don't want to be
Speaker 2: promoted because I'm female. Female is not an accomplishment, and
Speaker 2: being black is not an accomplishment. Being gay is not
Speaker 2: an accomplishment. I know what accomplishment is. It's learning language,
Speaker 2: it's learning it's learning mathematics, it's learning reasoning. That's the
Speaker 2: only thing that should matter.
Speaker 1: And Heather MacDonald, the number one racial group when all
Speaker 1: these tests are taken are not Whites, They're Asians. In fact,
Speaker 1: the tests supposedly provide Asians because of faith and family
Speaker 1: and parents demand educational achievement. Of course, democrats are largely
Speaker 1: in charge of urban public education, which is an unmitigated disaster.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, it's also true that Asians, another minority, do
Speaker 1: better than white boys and girls, men and women, and
Speaker 1: Asians is a small racial category that succeeds magnificently. So
Speaker 1: the argument that this is racism while it's racist against
Speaker 1: Asians correct.
Speaker 2: Absolutely right. The idea of this is white supremacy, Well,
Speaker 2: we haven't done a very good job at it because
Speaker 2: Asians are whooping our and you can absolutely see it
Speaker 2: in the family culture. The parents are riding those children
Speaker 2: from day one. You will study, you will learn, you
Speaker 2: will get into Harvard, and Harvard keeps raising the bars.
Speaker 2: So it's harder and harder to get in into your
Speaker 2: Asian It's no longer enough to play two instruments like
Speaker 2: a professional. It's no longer enough to score perfect score
Speaker 2: sixteen hundreds on your sads. You have to know, I
Speaker 2: don't know, God what you have to prove that you're
Speaker 2: going to be totally left wing, presumably to get in.
Speaker 2: And rather than saying lower the standards on our behalf,
Speaker 2: which is what the black civil rights leaders do, they say, Okay,
Speaker 2: we'll meet your standards. You keep raising them, we'll meet them.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable. It's about faith and family and good parenting. It's
Speaker 1: not about race. Once again, Heather McDonald, you're a great American.
Speaker 1: Let's not wait two years to do this again. The
Speaker 1: book is when race Trump's merit, you come with the facts,
Speaker 1: you come with the receipts. And once again, Heather McDonald,
Speaker 1: thank you very much for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: Let's have a great four years at Donald Trumper. We'll
Speaker 1: pull out Ei by the roots and get rid of
Speaker 1: the disparate racial impact studies, which is not as you say,
Speaker 1: it's not an accomplishment to be gay, it's not an
Speaker 1: accomplishment to be a female, it's not an accomplishment to
Speaker 1: be an Indian or a black, and let's get rid
Speaker 1: of that. I think Trump's going to do it, don't you, Heather?
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: And I'm actually for once optimistic in my life. Can
Speaker 2: you imagine if we had twelve years of EOP rule,
Speaker 2: I like to be still my heart, we would save
Speaker 2: the country.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, thank god, Heather McDonald. Once again, thank
Speaker 1: you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Heather,
Speaker 1: you're a great American. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much. Bill.
Speaker 1: Let's continue, never stop. We simply continue. Asians do well,
Speaker 1: do great on these tests, but we have to White
Speaker 1: supremacy fails because Asians succeed. Do you buy that argument?
Speaker 1: Bill cunning and the Great American with you every day.
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