Speaker 1: It's the I'm Still Fun podcast with Fallon and Jenny.
Speaker 1: Hope you're having a good week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's just been busy. Yeah. I think
Speaker 2: for you too. Yeah, different busis.
Speaker 1: I guess like I had like an easy weekend. Your
Speaker 1: weekend was crazy, but my like week days have.
Speaker 2: Probably been crazier. Yeah, just because of the fair.
Speaker 1: But I know, like we kind of talked about like
Speaker 1: our complaints about the fair. But I will say two
Speaker 1: days in it's been great. I'm not looking forward to
Speaker 1: going out though. We record this on Mondays, so Monday
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be like ninety two today, so I
Speaker 1: do think I will be a sweaty, disgusting mess. But
Speaker 1: I did wear my hair up to start, like make
Speaker 1: it a little easier on myself. But it has been
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's been fun. I try to go
Speaker 1: into it with like a different mindset than I usually do.
Speaker 1: Usually go into it with dread. So I was like, no,
Speaker 1: look at it on the positive. You're going to get
Speaker 1: to meet people, You're going to get to have tasty foods.
Speaker 1: You do a show with a person that you genuinely
Speaker 1: like are friends with, and you.
Speaker 2: Like laugh with.
Speaker 1: It's going to be good fast, and so it's been
Speaker 1: like I've tried to do a mind shift and it's
Speaker 1: been fun.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 3: I was only out there like three hours so far
Speaker 3: because I didn't have to. I was a little bit
Speaker 3: late to my shift because of this wedding I had
Speaker 3: in Wisconsin on Friday night. But it was very hot
Speaker 3: on Saturday when we were there, and I wore jeans
Speaker 3: and like a strapless tank top thing and so like
Speaker 3: on top, I felt okay, but like the Jane situation
Speaker 3: was like too much on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Change.
Speaker 3: At some point, I did change in the leggings to
Speaker 3: go on a unicycle, and then I also changed out
Speaker 3: of that into like a skirt because Andrew and I
Speaker 3: hung out later together.
Speaker 2: Somebody, yeah, the changes of the State Fair. I should
Speaker 2: have just kept the leggings on. From that point.
Speaker 3: The skirt was fine, but then there was like some
Speaker 3: thigh chafing at that point and it was.
Speaker 1: Just anything under that skirt. No, Jenny, you are a
Speaker 1: serial killer.
Speaker 3: We literally sat on Lulu's rooftop for like an hour
Speaker 3: and a half.
Speaker 2: You had the most prime seats on How you got it.
Speaker 2: I've never even been on their rooftop. We went up there.
Speaker 3: It was completely packed, and then we went back down
Speaker 3: and Andrew's like, those people are leaving. So I stayed
Speaker 3: down because I was like, I'm not walking back and
Speaker 3: back up there again. And so he gets up there
Speaker 3: and he just like zoomed in real quick. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: they were they were empty for about ten seconds before
Speaker 3: he got to them, and I was like, he's not
Speaker 3: going to get them. Someone else is gonna snag him.
Speaker 3: So we honestly had the best people watching spot ever
Speaker 3: see that. Yeah, and we just sat there and chilled
Speaker 3: and I tried to eat a lot of food, but
Speaker 3: I just couldn't because it was just so uncomfortable hot,
Speaker 3: it's gross.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean I still tried things, but it was a
Speaker 3: lot of like sharing with Andrew. So I only had
Speaker 3: like three of the new food items and they were
Speaker 3: all really really good for the most part. Everything else
Speaker 3: Andrew kind of just like gave me a bite of
Speaker 3: because you spent the afternoon out there.
Speaker 2: He's so weird.
Speaker 3: He just like goes out there and he was like,
Speaker 3: I'll run into people, I'll meet up with people, but
Speaker 3: like no one ended up, like everyone failed on Saturday,
Speaker 3: and so he just walked around while I worked for
Speaker 3: three hours.
Speaker 1: Crazy, no way. I never go to Lulu's. The line
Speaker 1: is always intimidating, and I'm like, there is I can't
Speaker 1: think of a single food on Earth I want to
Speaker 1: wait in line for. And while I get that, the ranch,
Speaker 1: the fried ranch is like an appeal this year.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I just oh, I did try the fried Ranch. I
Speaker 1: had it at the Jason Show. But I just can't
Speaker 1: think of a single food I would wait in a
Speaker 1: line like that for the only thing I haven't gotten. Well,
Speaker 1: I haven't gotten a lot of things this year. Day one,
Speaker 1: I got a Pronto pup. That's all I had. Day two,
Speaker 1: Jake was there with some coworkers, so I went and
Speaker 1: I had three Sweet Martha's cookies nice, and I got
Speaker 1: my Surloin steak mashed potato bowl that I like to get,
Speaker 1: And that is all I've had so far.
Speaker 2: So I still have never tried that.
Speaker 1: Like amish donut, the peaches donut or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: and I want to try it. It's like a huge
Speaker 1: glazed donut. Haven't gotten my fried pickles yet, So I
Speaker 1: think I'm going to try to get those two things.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 1: I tried to do like one thing a day, and
Speaker 1: I don't eat it all because I would make myself
Speaker 1: sick because it's too hot.
Speaker 2: But I haven't had time.
Speaker 1: By the time I get there and get to our booth,
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, people grab me and so I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I wanted to go grab food.
Speaker 2: Yeah, time.
Speaker 1: So then I've like, I just end up not eating
Speaker 1: typically time while we're there in the four hours.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I think it's you have how
Speaker 2: many two more shifts? Yep? Two more.
Speaker 3: But I'm also going out there for the Ludicris and
Speaker 3: Tea Pain Coss, so I will be out there for
Speaker 3: four days total, which I'm excited for that concert because
Speaker 3: I actually just like, man, I don't know how I
Speaker 3: missed this, but my friend from Chicago's in town for
Speaker 3: like two weeks. She's originally from Woodbury somewhere over there,
Speaker 3: and she texted me, She's like, hey, I'm in town,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, I didn't know, Like, let's try
Speaker 3: to plan something. And then I saw that she had
Speaker 3: texted me literally like a month and a half ago,
Speaker 3: and so I was like, I have extra tickets for
Speaker 3: this concert because Andrew's actually going to go with some
Speaker 3: other friends, and so now I have extra tickets, and
Speaker 3: I'm excited to be able to get her into something
Speaker 3: because we never get to do stuff like that when
Speaker 3: she's in town.
Speaker 2: Usually it's like a quick dinner or something, and then
Speaker 2: it's not.
Speaker 1: About going to that concert because I feel like so
Speaker 1: many people are going and I want to see Ludacris
Speaker 1: so bad.
Speaker 2: Do you know who goes on first? I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: I would hope, well, actually no, I would actually hope
Speaker 3: it be Ludacris because I would be okay leaving a
Speaker 3: little bit early for tea Pain.
Speaker 1: I would be happy just seeing Ludacris and leaving.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't have that answer, so I guess we'll see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you had a crazy busy weekend because you
Speaker 1: did your cousin's wedding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just.
Speaker 3: Went home for it. It's near my hometown, Oshkosh, and
Speaker 3: so we left right after I got into the morning
Speaker 3: show on Friday. I did get out of the morning
Speaker 3: show a little bit Earli, Otherwise I probably wouldn't have
Speaker 3: been at the ceremony on time. We got there and
Speaker 3: basically dropped our shit at the hotel and changed and
Speaker 3: got to the ceremony, and then we were at that
Speaker 3: until like ten pm, and then we went back to
Speaker 3: the hotel, tried to sleep for a handful of hours,
Speaker 3: neither of us could sleep very well, and then came
Speaker 3: back to do the State Fair. And I mean it
Speaker 3: was all it was a lot, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 3: but it was all really fun, yeah, for the most part.
Speaker 2: So in the end it was just like a little.
Speaker 3: Draining to the point where like I was so looking
Speaker 3: forward to sleeping Saturday night and I fell sleep really easily,
Speaker 3: but I like could not sleep in on Sunday morning
Speaker 3: really and I was like, God, I like need some
Speaker 3: sleep right now, and I couldn't. And I even like
Speaker 3: got up Pete went back to bed and tried to
Speaker 3: like fall back asleep for a while, and instead I
Speaker 3: just sat on my phone and waited for Andrew to
Speaker 3: get up because he was able to sleep.
Speaker 2: So it was a good time.
Speaker 3: It was great scene like my family, because there was
Speaker 3: family that came for this wedding that I haven't seen.
Speaker 2: In a long time.
Speaker 3: We danced quite a bit and it was very It
Speaker 3: was a very fun wedding because I mean, my cousin's
Speaker 3: only I think twenty three or twenty four. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: it was they're all young. They have a lot of
Speaker 3: young friends. People stay late to you know, it's not
Speaker 3: a bunch of people leaving early, like when the dance
Speaker 3: starts and whatever.
Speaker 1: How long was the dance? I saw yesterday Jordan who
Speaker 1: used to work on the morning show. He's a wedding
Speaker 1: DJ Tornado Jolly. He said there was a sweet spot
Speaker 1: for the dance. He said, if you planned four hours
Speaker 1: for the dance, it's way too FFing much. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: I think you said, like two and a half three
Speaker 1: hours is the sweet spot. And I agree, Like, I
Speaker 1: agree because I've been to some weddings where the dance
Speaker 1: is like four hours and their weddings like we have
Speaker 1: to stay at because they're like family or friends that
Speaker 1: were really close to and by a couple hours in,
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, yeah, I'm let's let's wrap this
Speaker 1: thing up. And I'm dreading looking at two more hours
Speaker 1: on the clock. So I'm in my own wedding.
Speaker 2: I was like that. I was like, can I go
Speaker 2: to bed yet?
Speaker 3: I was so drunk at your wedding. I had no
Speaker 3: idea what time anything was.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, God, I didn't even I forgot to tell you this.
Speaker 3: So Okay, their wedding, and I honestly didn't know how
Speaker 3: long the dance was because I knew I for sure
Speaker 3: wasn't going to be staying till the end, so I
Speaker 3: just I don't know. But the wedding and I had
Speaker 3: two weekends ago. It was out on like a apple
Speaker 3: orchard whatever it was outside. It was hot and all
Speaker 3: that stuff, and like, honestly, nobody was really dancing, and
Speaker 3: we ended up leaving at like nine fifteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and which was.
Speaker 3: Pretty for like leaving a pretty decent friend's wedding, and
Speaker 3: I felt like, like I felt really bad about that.
Speaker 3: But they had so they brought in catered food from
Speaker 3: like a Minneapolis Mexican restaurant. They came in and did
Speaker 3: a kind of like buffet style, and then they also
Speaker 3: like had a snacks table and it was all these
Speaker 3: giant things from Costco, so you know, you got your
Speaker 3: like animal crackers, your pretzels, whatever. And I was like, God,
Speaker 3: if I was in my Jenny era of Follan's wedding,
Speaker 3: I probably would have stolen something on the way out,
Speaker 3: but instead I did steal. I stole something, but it
Speaker 3: wasn't as bad.
Speaker 2: Some fruit snacks. I stole like five of them. That's fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Andrew took some two. I shoved some in my purse.
Speaker 3: I was like, I gotta have some snacks for the road.
Speaker 3: It was like a forty five minute drive back whatever, Wow,
Speaker 3: thirty five minutes.
Speaker 2: You really couldn't hold off the snacks. I could it.
Speaker 2: That's fine, that's fine. Yeah.
Speaker 1: This weekend was like not like that at all for me,
Speaker 1: And it wasn't like rushing around anything.
Speaker 2: But I did apply for a dog. You did? Yeah,
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yeah you did. Have you told me
Speaker 2: anything about this?
Speaker 1: I haven't, right, okay, I talked to like a few
Speaker 1: people about it this weekend, but you were busy, so
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna bother you with it. But I found
Speaker 1: a dog that I think is, you know, cute. They ask,
Speaker 1: why did you pick this dog? I don't know, why
Speaker 1: does anyone pick a dog when they see it? Because
Speaker 1: I think it's cute. I think, you know, so I
Speaker 1: was like, I thought it was cute. But anyway, I applied.
Speaker 1: I don't know how long it takes to let me
Speaker 1: know if I'm that they're potentially gonna see it's a boy.
Speaker 1: I've never had a boy animal like ever.
Speaker 2: So is this the one you shared? Didn't you share
Speaker 2: a Pomeranian?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: He wasn't a palm.
Speaker 1: I shared like a It was like a Bernie poodle
Speaker 1: mini mixed thing.
Speaker 2: That one was. Her name was Cinnamon.
Speaker 1: That one like must have already been adopted before they
Speaker 1: even listed her.
Speaker 2: Kind of thing.
Speaker 1: I didn't even apply, but she was gone within seconds.
Speaker 1: This one is a boy. And I sent the picture
Speaker 1: to like Tina and she already named him. And it's
Speaker 1: actually a pretty cute name. So if we get him,
Speaker 1: but this is what he looks.
Speaker 3: Like, Oh my gosh, so cute.
Speaker 2: He's pretty cute. I don't know. I mean, we'll see
Speaker 2: if I get him or not. But I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I told Jake he was off doing something and I
Speaker 1: had just gotten home from like plates or whatever Saturday,
Speaker 1: and I just went online and I applied for him.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I go, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm doing this because I'm emotional because it's like the
Speaker 1: one year anniversary of Elliott, or if I'm actually ready.
Speaker 1: But I also said I didn't want a puppy. And
Speaker 1: this dog was four months old. So I did look
Speaker 1: like I've been continuously looking for the past two or
Speaker 1: three months at like teenage dogs, if you will, and
Speaker 1: adult dogs. And then of course the rescues post a
Speaker 1: lot of the puppies. So this one I didn't see posted.
Speaker 1: Now it's posted, and I was like, oh, I don't
Speaker 1: post it. I don't want to have any competition for
Speaker 1: this dog. Yeah, but we'll see.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's it's what the process is.
Speaker 1: I they're based in Wisconsin, so we'd have to drive there,
Speaker 1: I think to see the dog.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: And part of me is like, why am I doing this?
Speaker 1: Everything is so easy right now with Dolly, But it's
Speaker 1: gonna like, I don't know, I think some are so busy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: life's gonna slow down a little bit in like the
Speaker 1: next mother too. Yeah, and so then you'll have more
Speaker 1: free time and then you'll have a new puppy to
Speaker 1: hang out with.
Speaker 2: I know, I think. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And also when I showed all of the other dog,
Speaker 1: she goes ew and I was like, what the hell,
Speaker 1: I don't have that reaction. But when I showed her this,
Speaker 1: when she's like, oh, can.
Speaker 2: We get it? Can we name it?
Speaker 1: Rosie, and I was like, we're not naming it Rosie.
Speaker 1: It's a boy, and she was like confused by that.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I mean we could, but I
Speaker 1: also don't want to name the dog Rosy, so it's
Speaker 1: not happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's exciting stuff. That's my highlight of the weekend.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if we'll get the dogs.
Speaker 3: I just want to say, do you know a like
Speaker 3: a timeframe of you said you don't know how long
Speaker 3: the process?
Speaker 1: You know, they take like threeish days to reach out
Speaker 1: after you put in an application. I did it on
Speaker 1: a Saturday, so probably three business days. And then they're like,
Speaker 1: they're basically like, you have to be down to adopt
Speaker 1: this dog within a week because we're not. They don't
Speaker 1: hold dogs, blah blah blah and all that. So I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, we'll see.
Speaker 2: I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 3: Hey, Y, can I tell you one thing from the
Speaker 3: wedding this weekend? Okay, so I listen, I fully fully
Speaker 3: respect you if you are religious and stuff, and this
Speaker 3: is not making fun of religion, I promise, even though
Speaker 3: it might come off that way. But during the ceremony,
Speaker 3: the pastor did a really great ceremony that lasts like
Speaker 3: thirty minutes of him telling stories and Bible stuff and whatever.
Speaker 3: And he started talking about how he looks at things
Speaker 3: in life, and he'll be like, oh, that's so.
Speaker 2: Jesus, that's so Jesus.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he started saying something along the lines
Speaker 3: of I want to.
Speaker 2: Love you like Jesus.
Speaker 3: Let me love you like Jesus and stuff, and talking
Speaker 3: about the couple that's getting married and whatever. So after
Speaker 3: the wedding commences, ceremony does Andrew comes up to me
Speaker 3: and we're kind of talking about how it went and whatever,
Speaker 3: and he goes, yeah, like, babe, how do you want
Speaker 3: me to love you more like Jesus? Let me love you,
Speaker 3: Let me love you more like Jesus. And then he goes,
Speaker 3: you think Jesus said asks, and okay, and you.
Speaker 2: No, and I just that then why is robing him?
Speaker 3: And so we're being these awful heathens after this passage
Speaker 3: just gave this like lovely ceremony that's so Jesus. Part,
Speaker 3: I'll admit was a little corny in my opinion, But
Speaker 3: the pastor was so cool. He was invited because the
Speaker 3: family my cousin's now wife. Their family is very close
Speaker 3: with the pastor, so he stuck around ate dinner at
Speaker 3: their table, stayed at the dance till probably like almost
Speaker 3: the same time we did.
Speaker 2: Him and his wife were there. Yeah, and we're literally.
Speaker 3: Screaming the words to get low oh and yeah, and
Speaker 3: the pastor is like right next to us, and I
Speaker 3: kind of tried to censor myself, but I just couldn't.
Speaker 2: I was like, you, dick, not if.
Speaker 3: She's fine, Oh one more time, you know, I'm just
Speaker 3: saying everywhere the ludapart and yeah, I was like, ben, no,
Speaker 3: but you touch a toes, you know.
Speaker 1: Oh That's how I felt with Like at Jake's brother's
Speaker 1: wedding with his aunt and uncle who are insanely religious,
Speaker 1: and she's dancing with us, and.
Speaker 2: Then that's going on.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't feel comfortable with like your
Speaker 1: aunt Laura like next to me while I'm doing this.
Speaker 2: I gotta get out of here. So anyways, I just
Speaker 2: he was a cool pastor.
Speaker 3: You could tell he like he likes to hang and
Speaker 3: I think he was indulging in some beverages, which whatever, Yes,
Speaker 3: the string wine, that's so Jesus, you know.
Speaker 1: That's so Jesus. Another thing that's so Jesus. Checking out
Speaker 1: the new Sabrina Carpenter album. I don't know if you've
Speaker 1: listened to it yet.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I just haven't had two seconds to do much
Speaker 3: in the last few days.
Speaker 2: So good. It's one of those.
Speaker 1: Okay, So this is how it described the album. It's
Speaker 1: not a slow bird. It's a pretty quick burn.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So like Taylor Swift, I think, you know, when her
Speaker 1: Tortured Poets, it was too much. A lot of it
Speaker 1: sounds similar to other songs. I couldn't even handle it.
Speaker 1: I've had so much time to digest it. Fine, but
Speaker 1: the Sabrina album reminds me I would compare it to
Speaker 1: an Olivia Rodrigu album, like where immediately there are like
Speaker 1: three or four songs that stick out of like, oh
Speaker 1: those are good. Second listen, you're like, oh no, this
Speaker 1: one is too. Third listen, I like, I think every single.
Speaker 1: The only song I skip is like one song that's
Speaker 1: like slower slower.
Speaker 2: It's called like dumb and poet poetic or something.
Speaker 1: And it's not that it's a bad song, it's just
Speaker 1: that all of them are such like they're so fucking good.
Speaker 2: I'm like, dang, I'm.
Speaker 1: So happy to see Sabrina just killing it. And they're
Speaker 1: so perverted. Like there's one line in a song she
Speaker 1: says like come rot, come ride on me. I mean camaraderie,
Speaker 1: and I'm like little things like that, and it's it's
Speaker 1: she's very foul and I love it. So anyway, if
Speaker 1: you even checked it out, do it. She released the
Speaker 1: first music video for Taste Well with Jenna Ortega in it,
Speaker 1: and it's it's fun. It's like just them killing each
Speaker 1: other over and over again and then they kiss.
Speaker 2: Of course, got the Accusa's hut. I'm like, guys, okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just thinking yesterday, like do you think
Speaker 3: that Sabrina Carpenter is bigger than Olivia Rodrigo? Is she
Speaker 3: going to be better than Olivia Rodrigo at this point?
Speaker 3: How do you feel between the two, because don't you
Speaker 3: feel like there's quite the rivalry, like because Sabrina dated
Speaker 3: there Olivia's X right.
Speaker 1: There's I think they're quote unquote fine with each other now,
Speaker 1: like they're not like going after each other. They're actually
Speaker 1: saying in this new album, there are some digs at
Speaker 1: sewn Mendez and Camila Cabello because on their split, Sean
Speaker 1: had started kind of talking to Sabrina okay, and then
Speaker 1: it's almost like Camila's like she even has a song.
Speaker 1: She's like as soon as like my head hit your chest,
Speaker 1: It's like she knew. And then he remember was seeing
Speaker 1: making out with her at Coachella, and then they got
Speaker 1: back together and she's like, oh and he broke up again,
Speaker 1: you know, like her song calls it out. So I
Speaker 1: think there's some Shawn Mendez Camila shout outs.
Speaker 2: Okay. So I think she's just very much moved on.
Speaker 1: As far as bigger, I think right now she's she
Speaker 1: feels bigger because she has two of the biggest songs
Speaker 1: on the radio and Olivia's album is like old now.
Speaker 2: But I don't think she's bigger necessarily.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, Olivia's on a really successful tour,
Speaker 1: Sabrina will go on one. I'm excited that Sabrina is going
Speaker 1: to finally be at.
Speaker 2: The level of Olivia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because she's been doing it so much longer than Olivia.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that that was.
Speaker 1: Really hard to watch as Sabrina Carpenter, so we I've
Speaker 1: interviewed Sabrina before, incredibly nice and she's funny.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've never met Olivia Rodrigo, and even if I had
Speaker 1: met her, those meet and greets, they're supposed to be nice,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I mean they're an asked and they're
Speaker 1: having it off day probably, But.
Speaker 2: We have, I know, a couple of emails.
Speaker 1: Also, one I feel so bad at email Donna. She
Speaker 1: had asked recommendations for stuff to do last Thursday. Oh
Speaker 1: not very helpful now, But the next question is for you, Jenny.
Speaker 1: She says, what is your website again? And do you
Speaker 1: ever look for people to contribute to travel adventure stories too,
Speaker 1: or just recommend spots that you should absolutely visit. That's
Speaker 1: from Donna in Rochester.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: My website is meet meofgrid dot com. And I haven't
Speaker 3: done anything with like stories from people quite yet. I
Speaker 3: haven't built it out in that way. It is more
Speaker 3: just like kind of guides, tips, tricks. So I am
Speaker 3: looking for like recommendations and stuff a lot of times.
Speaker 3: So if you have any, yeah, more than welcome to
Speaker 3: email me. We're working on planning a road trip out
Speaker 3: to Washington in October, I believe, so we're just like
Speaker 3: gonna bust through all the northern kind of states up
Speaker 3: here out west, and then we're not entirely sure what
Speaker 3: our road is going to be yet. I'm dreading driving
Speaker 3: through either of the Dakotas because there's really nothing. But yeah,
Speaker 3: if you've ever done some kind of a road trip
Speaker 3: like that, let me know and then and I'll try
Speaker 3: some things out.
Speaker 2: But I try to.
Speaker 3: Right now, I feel like I'm trying to only mostly
Speaker 3: put things up there that I've experienced myself. I know
Speaker 3: there's other travel bloggers who will have like contributing writers
Speaker 3: because they haven't been somewhere and their website's so huge,
Speaker 3: but like you know, you can't be go everywhere, so
Speaker 3: then you'll like take other people.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3: And then I have a couple emails still too that
Speaker 3: are still on the subject of what we talked about,
Speaker 3: starting like a couple of weeks ago. This one says,
Speaker 3: good afternoon. I just wanted to reach out and say
Speaker 3: how much I appreciated the conversation you both had about
Speaker 3: the ticking clock pressure that women experience. Like you, Jenny,
Speaker 3: I've never felt a strong urge to get married or
Speaker 3: have kids, but as I'm about to turn thirty five,
Speaker 3: this year, I often find myself questioning whether I'm making
Speaker 3: the right decision. All of mine and my parents' friends
Speaker 3: are already on their second child, and I'm starting to
Speaker 3: feel a bit out of the loop. Oh sorry, partner's friends,
Speaker 3: not parents' friends. There are so many reasons not to
Speaker 3: have children. Our parents are elderly, we both were late
Speaker 3: oopsie babies, so we don't have the support system that
Speaker 3: many others do. Daycare costs are practically a full salary.
Speaker 3: We still enjoy our hobbies and the freedom to be
Speaker 3: a little selfish. And I don't get and don't get
Speaker 3: me started on why I'm terrified of pregnancy and childbirth.
Speaker 3: But the biggest reason that's been weighing on me lately
Speaker 3: is the thought that my parents won't be around much longer,
Speaker 3: given that they're in their eighties. I'm scared of being
Speaker 3: alone later in life. While I know I have my
Speaker 3: husband and friends, it doesn't feel the same as having
Speaker 3: people around who are bound to love you unconditionally. But
Speaker 3: then on the flip side, I also wonder if that's
Speaker 3: a selfish reason to have kids. I really love your
Speaker 3: perspective and fallin as someone who never initially wanted kids
Speaker 3: but ended up having them. And then ps. If you
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Speaker 3: week and they want to remain anonymous. So I would say,
Speaker 3: would you consider it selfish to have kids just because
Speaker 3: you don't want to be lonely later in life?
Speaker 2: I mean yes and no. Once you have your kid,
Speaker 2: it's not like that's the only reason you have them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean to rewind, I think that.
Speaker 1: To fear pregnancy and childbirth is so realistic, but it's
Speaker 1: such a blip. My pregnancy was not the greatest, but
Speaker 1: I didn't have it as bad as some people. I
Speaker 1: didn't have like gestational diabetes, I didn't have like preclamsy
Speaker 1: or whatever. I didn't have a lot of things. I
Speaker 1: had hemorrhoids, I was uncomfortable. I had sickness for the
Speaker 1: first sixteen weeks, but it goes by pretty quickly and
Speaker 1: the labor itself. Again, I had an easy labor. So
Speaker 1: I want to be like mindful that not everyone does.
Speaker 1: But I think it's fair to fear those things. But
Speaker 1: I just think that don't let that. That can't be
Speaker 1: the reason to stop you. I feel like, if you
Speaker 1: wanted kids and I don't know, I don't think it's selfish.
Speaker 1: I think that's a very valid thought. I have many
Speaker 1: friends who are only children, and it really bothers them that, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: when their parents pass at some point, they don't have
Speaker 1: someone else, they don't have their person, Like I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's hard to explain. Even if you're not close to
Speaker 1: your siblings, you have like this built in bond of family,
Speaker 1: and so I think I understand what you're saying. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's selfish to have those thoughts at all.
Speaker 1: I think that's very those are very human thoughts. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I can't. I mean that I think so
Speaker 1: many people. I mean, even Jenny, I think, plays this
Speaker 1: exact same game in her mind of like I don't
Speaker 1: want to wait till it's too late, but I don't
Speaker 1: really know that this is what I want.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say that, like, I don't know. I
Speaker 3: think that it does feel selfish to me if that's
Speaker 3: the only reason that you're having kids is because you
Speaker 3: don't want to be lonely later in life. Because of course,
Speaker 3: you'll probably end up loving your children so so much
Speaker 3: when you have them, but there's the off chance that
Speaker 3: you don't. Because I think that that I don't know,
Speaker 3: there's like Reddit threads out there of people saying they
Speaker 3: regret becoming a parent. Oh I see, so it's like,
Speaker 3: if that were to happen, then yeah, that was a
Speaker 3: really selfish reason to have children, if you're not going
Speaker 3: to be a great parent because like you didn't want
Speaker 3: to be alone later in life.
Speaker 2: That though, that's a very good point. I guess.
Speaker 1: I don't look, I haven't like Reddit thread like searched that,
Speaker 1: I mean, but there are Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think my TikTok algorithm is all about like
Speaker 3: not wanting kids a lot of times. And so I
Speaker 3: think I've been on that where I've also gotten like
Speaker 3: the regretful parents who like will openly admit like it
Speaker 3: was not for me. And I've gotten dms from people
Speaker 3: in the last couple of weeks too, where one person
Speaker 3: straight up told me that she has I think three
Speaker 3: kids now and it took until her youngest was twelve
Speaker 3: for her to be okay with being a mom, but
Speaker 3: she hated it up until finally at that point in life,
Speaker 3: and so she was like, just really consider it, because
Speaker 3: when it happened to me, it wasn't till my youngest
Speaker 3: was twelve and she has three kids. That I was like, Okay, cool,
Speaker 3: I'm a mom and I like it now.
Speaker 1: I also, though, I know that everyone's different, but and
Speaker 1: I trust me, I don't I'm not getting onto this
Speaker 1: person for sending Jenny a DM like that. But there's
Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes people send messages and it.
Speaker 2: Just scares you because.
Speaker 1: If you announced, like when I announced I'm pregnant and
Speaker 1: I'm having a baby, do you know the number of
Speaker 1: listeners that told me how they're horrible disaster pregnancies or
Speaker 1: horrible disaster labors. And I'm like, I get that that
Speaker 1: was really traumatic for you, and I'm so sorry, but
Speaker 1: please don't send me stuff to freak me out. I
Speaker 1: know they were just trying to be nice and prepare
Speaker 1: me or warn me, but like, I don't necessarily think
Speaker 1: that that.
Speaker 2: Is super helpful.
Speaker 1: So I I forget that you should see every side
Speaker 1: of it, because not every person is like she's a
Speaker 1: perfect example of like, not every person is going to
Speaker 1: just be like so matronly, and there's like or whatever
Speaker 1: like maternal and love like be like the perfect mother.
Speaker 1: But I also feel like that is that message is
Speaker 1: an extreme to like not feel like you wanted to
Speaker 1: be a mother until your youngest of three is twelve.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I guess I wouldn't. I don't care that
Speaker 3: she sent me that. That doesn't scare me or change
Speaker 3: my opinion one way or another. To be honest, it
Speaker 3: makes me feel more normal to hear something like that
Speaker 3: because of the fear of like becoming a parent and
Speaker 3: wondering if it's going to like be something I love
Speaker 3: so much to hear someone say, yeah, it took me
Speaker 3: till this time to love being a parent, because I
Speaker 3: got plenty of messages from people who were like, I
Speaker 3: was exactly like you two, and then I had kids
Speaker 3: and I love them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got so.
Speaker 3: Many of like those kinds of messages too, So I
Speaker 3: will just say that, like, I kind of more appreciated
Speaker 3: getting that one because it wasn't I can tell obviously
Speaker 3: she wasn't trying to scare me, and I'm sure none
Speaker 3: of those people that sent you the pregnancy stuff were
Speaker 3: trying to scare you. But like, I feel like that's
Speaker 3: a little bit more extreme because like that's yeah, like
Speaker 3: that's like.
Speaker 2: A risk and stuff.
Speaker 3: This is more of a like this is my opinion
Speaker 3: and this is like my whatever. So anyways, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know how you finally.
Speaker 1: If you're at like where you're at or where she's at,
Speaker 1: I don't know how you actually make that decision.
Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say, they said, I love your
Speaker 3: perspective fallon as someone who never initially wanted kids but
Speaker 3: ended up having them, so like, but mine would I
Speaker 3: feel like easy because I based it on my partner. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I feel like I had a quote unquote unfair advantage.
Speaker 3: I got to see what my partner is like as
Speaker 3: a dad.
Speaker 1: I get to see how committed and involved he is,
Speaker 1: and so it was like almost like I got a
Speaker 1: preview of my my movie. I don't know, It's like
Speaker 1: I knew. I knew I wasn't going to be like
Speaker 1: stuck with someone who doesn't contribute and doesn't help me.
Speaker 1: And as someone who was nervous about being a mom,
Speaker 1: to know that like this other person was going to
Speaker 1: completely be there to like cover any of my like lacking,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just made it. It built confidence
Speaker 1: that I was lacking. I think, and it didn't make
Speaker 1: me want to have so many kids. And I did
Speaker 1: not like the newborn phase. I did not like being pregnant.
Speaker 1: You know, they say, sometimes you have your baby and
Speaker 1: you have an immediate connection, and other times you have
Speaker 1: to like build a connection. I think that's very true.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm not saying because I did it
Speaker 1: and like loved my kid immediately that like everyone will.
Speaker 1: I think that I don't know how you make that decision.
Speaker 1: I think if you, I agree with Jenny, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to do it only for the like fear of
Speaker 1: being alone. I guess if that's how she worked, I
Speaker 1: can't orb how she worded it, but I don't Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the primary reason if when you're
Speaker 1: like weighing the pros and cons.
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3: Well here we have one more email on the ticking
Speaker 3: clock situation. So I'll read this real quick because it's
Speaker 3: a little bit shorter since I just finished the podcast
Speaker 3: about the ticking clock. And I totally understand the worry.
Speaker 3: I myself currently worry about my age and where I'm
Speaker 3: at in life. I'm turning thirty five this year and
Speaker 3: have been married for fourteen years and we currently have
Speaker 3: no kids. I wasn't ready for the longest time, and
Speaker 3: now I'm kicking myself for not starting a family right away. However,
Speaker 3: I also don't regret the past fourteen years of just
Speaker 3: being with my husband and having no kids. Now I'm
Speaker 3: getting older and I'm freaking out about my age and
Speaker 3: my parents and in law's ages. It's the stuff that
Speaker 3: wakes you up in the night at night in a panic.
Speaker 3: I don't have any answers or suggestions on making the
Speaker 3: ticking time clock feel any better, but it does make
Speaker 3: me feel better knowing that I'm not alone and feeling
Speaker 3: the way I do. Thank you both for creating this podcast.
Speaker 3: That's been like hanging out with girlfriends every week since
Speaker 3: you start. I also love that you are both comfortable
Speaker 3: enough to talk about sex and other female things openly.
Speaker 3: That gives me a sense of not feeling alone. Thinks
Speaker 3: that comes from Stacy. Thanks Stacy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you Stacy.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, obviously you're still I know she mentioned
Speaker 3: her parents are getting older, but you're still very young
Speaker 3: to have kids too. I think at thirty five you
Speaker 3: still have plenty of time. It is just interesting like
Speaker 3: every person how different their journey is. Like she's like
Speaker 3: waited fourteen years and got that time. And a lot
Speaker 3: of people say that, like they want time with their
Speaker 3: partner before they start a family.
Speaker 1: Other people they want to like get the kids going immediately,
Speaker 1: no matter their age. I wanted to get the one
Speaker 1: kid going because I was older. Yeah, so I was
Speaker 1: like I didn't want to.
Speaker 2: Like, wait, were you thirty four?
Speaker 1: I was thirty four when I was like, got pregnant
Speaker 1: technically okay, and then thirty five when I is that
Speaker 1: right delivered?
Speaker 2: Maybe?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would make sense because your birthday you would
Speaker 3: have been pregnant in what December? Yeah, and then you
Speaker 3: had all of in September, so yeah, you would have
Speaker 3: had a birthday in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So but yeah that was already uh geriatric labor. Thirty
Speaker 1: five is when it goes geriatric. Yeah, which is so crazy.
Speaker 2: But I don't know this.
Speaker 1: I feel like this cover like I never want I
Speaker 1: guess like people like come to me since I didn't
Speaker 1: want kids. I never want to like feel like I'm
Speaker 1: telling people that they should have.
Speaker 2: Kids, you know what I mean. I don't ever get
Speaker 2: that from you.
Speaker 1: Good, okay, because I'm like I don't ever want anyone
Speaker 1: to ever take that away from me. Like I'm trying
Speaker 1: to be very much like, if you don't want them,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be the person that tells you
Speaker 1: you're going to change your mind.
Speaker 3: No, I've never felt that way about you or anything
Speaker 3: you've said when we've talked about these.
Speaker 2: Okay, email, I want to make sure I never give that.
Speaker 1: Impression to anyone, because I don't think it's the worst
Speaker 1: thing that a lot of people don't have kids because
Speaker 1: they're bad people, but because of just the population in general.
Speaker 1: Like if more people choose not to awesome because other
Speaker 1: people are having like forty kids, so it's like a
Speaker 1: good balance probably.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then also more people are actually thinking about what
Speaker 1: they want and not what they like society tells them
Speaker 1: they should do.
Speaker 2: Right, So I think that that's a.
Speaker 1: Really great shift that younger generations have made.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, but we're at time already.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, and I know you got to get running idea.
Speaker 1: Of Hey, thanks to everyone for emailing. You can always
Speaker 1: email Fallon at KATIWB dot com or Jenny at katiwb
Speaker 1: dot com.
Speaker 2: Have a great week.