Speaker 1: It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on
Speaker 1: Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.
Speaker 2: I'm fairly confident that she is not currently listening, but
Speaker 2: i'd be I'd be making a real big mistake if
Speaker 2: I didn't at least once throughout the three hour show.
Speaker 2: Here wish my lovely wife, Tiffany also known here at
Speaker 2: iHeart as Mercedes, a very very happy wedding anniversary fourteen
Speaker 2: years ago today. Thank you fourteen years ago today, Austin.
Speaker 2: She said yes, or she said I do. I guess
Speaker 2: she said yes when I propose you. Then she said
Speaker 2: I do whenever, you know, we made it official, so
Speaker 2: happy anniversary.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't know.
Speaker 2: I have no clue if I'd even be alive without her.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what would have killed me.
Speaker 2: But you know, she takes care of me. Great, great wife,
Speaker 2: great mom, and I'm lucky to have her. So fourteen
Speaker 2: years is a long time. But once we got to
Speaker 2: like seven or eight, then it kind of, you know,
Speaker 2: it started to you know, okay, yeah, I guess you
Speaker 2: have been married for a little while now, and then
Speaker 2: ten was a big one. We did a nice little
Speaker 2: trip for our ten year anniversary went to kankun and
Speaker 2: we don't have anything special plan this year, but as
Speaker 2: I talked about earlier this week, we're really looking to
Speaker 2: do something big next year to celebrate fifteen years. And
Speaker 2: you're going to be a married man before too long, Austin, right,
Speaker 2: So you will learn this at some point. But I
Speaker 2: didn't know this until I don't know, maybe a few
Speaker 2: years into being married, that there are and not.
Speaker 3: Everybody does this.
Speaker 2: I'm sure we don't do it, but there are, Like
Speaker 2: there's wedding anniversary gifts that you get for each year
Speaker 2: that are specific types of gift, and I pulled this
Speaker 2: up on Okay, so I pulled this up online and
Speaker 2: there's there's listed at one through fifteen, and then I
Speaker 2: after fifteen, then you stopped doing sixteen through seventeen. Then
Speaker 2: you just do the milestones. Once you get to fifteen.
Speaker 2: It looks as if they've got it set up to
Speaker 2: where you just do twenty, twenty five, thirty, which you
Speaker 2: know makes sense.
Speaker 4: What I've heard I didn't know was every year as
Speaker 4: you were married. I knew that there was the century
Speaker 4: marks and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: So the first year of marriage, the traditional gift is
Speaker 2: something paper, and the modern gift is clocks, so we
Speaker 2: didn't do any of that. But this year for fourteen,
Speaker 2: the traditional gift is something ivory. Don't even know what
Speaker 2: I would be, you know, if I went in, if
Speaker 2: I went in anywhere, it was like, I need an
Speaker 2: anniversary gift for my wife, something ivory. I'm not even
Speaker 2: sure what I would really be asking for. But the
Speaker 2: modern gift is gold jewelry, which she will be happy
Speaker 2: to know. She did not get any gold jewelry for
Speaker 2: our anniversary, and she wouldn't want me buying her jewelry anyway.
Speaker 2: I don't think I mean just because well I did
Speaker 2: one time, and I think this was I think this
Speaker 2: was a.
Speaker 3: A little bit of Christmas gift that I got her.
Speaker 3: I feel like it was.
Speaker 2: But she she got a necklace that had the two
Speaker 2: burstones of our kids in it, which I mean, it
Speaker 2: really wasn't like that expensive or anything nice or fancy,
Speaker 2: but you know, there was.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: It was a thoughtful and meaningful gift because obviously she's
Speaker 2: she loves being a mama and she's the mom of
Speaker 2: my kids, so that's probably like one of the I
Speaker 2: don't want to act like it was some great creative idea.
Speaker 2: I'm sure other people have thought of the same thing,
Speaker 2: but I thought, okay, that at least will just not
Speaker 2: be some random piece of jewelry that I don't know
Speaker 2: if she would like it because I don't know anything
Speaker 2: about you know, style when it comes to H two jewelry.
Speaker 2: So yeah, she's not getting any gold jewelry this year.
Speaker 2: But we are gonna have a nice little weekend. We've
Speaker 2: got uh my mom and stepdad are gonna be watching
Speaker 2: both kids.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna do a little staycation.
Speaker 2: We've got a we got a nice room at the
Speaker 2: Moxie Hotel downtown, so right, kind of have a nice
Speaker 2: date night. So looking forward to it, and I am
Speaker 2: open to uh some suggestions for for dinner. Austin gave
Speaker 2: me a great one, and uh, we may end up there,
Speaker 2: but you know you did tell me ahead of time
Speaker 2: a little little.
Speaker 3: Pricey yeah repeal, Yes, dude, I.
Speaker 2: Hope to be there at some point, but we may
Speaker 2: and we may end up their Saturday. I guess it
Speaker 2: kind of depends on how the night goes.
Speaker 4: But whipped Potatoes there, So where is that actually at
Speaker 4: It's on It's on mainstream. I think it's like right
Speaker 4: next to I may be wrong, but it's like kind
Speaker 4: of like it's on Whiskey Row, kind of like next
Speaker 4: to dot crows a little bit.
Speaker 3: Maybe not directly next to them, but I see it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, and this is one of the things I
Speaker 2: love about Google Maps. And I'm late to seeing this,
Speaker 2: but like you go to Google Maps, like it'll show
Speaker 2: you like a picture of like what you're where. I
Speaker 2: know exactly where it is now, right in a cool little,
Speaker 2: uh little spot. It's actually not far off from where
Speaker 2: we're or we're staying, so maybe we do end up there,
Speaker 2: by the way, I felt really dumb when I just
Speaker 2: realized in the last few months that if you do
Speaker 2: put in an address in Google Maps, you can click
Speaker 2: like the little image thing and it'll show you like
Speaker 2: I guess when the Google vehicle drives around, they just
Speaker 2: take you know, I'm sure you've seen them before, the
Speaker 2: Google car that has that cam. I'm on it. So
Speaker 2: like that helps me at times like, Okay, I think
Speaker 2: I'm going in the right direction, I think this address
Speaker 2: is the correct place, and then I'll I'll be able
Speaker 2: to pull up like a picture of what the location
Speaker 2: looks like and I'll either remember, yeah, that's it, or
Speaker 2: at least I'll know what I'm looking for if I'm
Speaker 2: going for the first time. I consider myself to be
Speaker 2: somewhat savvy when it comes to like how to really
Speaker 2: utilize technology to your advantage. But I felt like I
Speaker 2: missed out on a lot. I think it might have
Speaker 2: been who was it that told me you could do that?
Speaker 2: Somebody who even if I remembered, I wouldn't say their name,
Speaker 2: because like I remember thinking, like, how does this person
Speaker 2: know that? And I didn't. I was assuming that they're,
Speaker 2: you know, two decades behind an understanding technology. But anyways,
Speaker 2: happy anniversary to my to my lovely wife.
Speaker 3: We we got it good. We hope we're as young
Speaker 3: and as hot as you guys are.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, thank you very much. I've I now
Speaker 2: am in a position where like it was the same
Speaker 2: way with John the company having a baby, Like now
Speaker 2: I'm somebody that does have a little wisdom when it
Speaker 2: comes to that, you know, two time sex average. I
Speaker 2: got two kids, I mean father too. Let's not let's
Speaker 2: not let's not ignore that, you know I did, I did.
Speaker 2: I did produce two children with this lovely woman. Today
Speaker 2: possibly we'll see, we'll see. You know, I haven't got
Speaker 2: the snip yet, and you know she might, although I
Speaker 2: don't know not to take the conversation in a different direction.
Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about my sex life, trust me,
Speaker 2: that wouldn't be good for radio. I'm just I mean,
Speaker 2: if I was given the opportunity to talk about it,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'd be able to really, you know,
Speaker 2: make it interesting, because it's not like it's some crazy
Speaker 2: exciting thing. But nonetheless, I'll just stop talking now. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna keep putting my foot in my mouth. But she
Speaker 2: at times will like kind of flirt with the idea
Speaker 2: of having another kid, and like I can't ever tell
Speaker 2: if she's just like completely joking or if you know,
Speaker 2: like she's actually serious, because you know, that's something I
Speaker 2: need to know, like you were doing this or not,
Speaker 2: you know, is it happening or what?
Speaker 3: So anyway, like a Kentucky Derby winner, Well.
Speaker 2: I doubt you know that we would ever have another kid,
Speaker 2: but you know, you never know, And I'm all, you know,
Speaker 2: if so, I mean that that's that would be exciting,
Speaker 2: but maybe that's maybe that's here I am talking about
Speaker 2: our personal life on the show, which I'm sure she
Speaker 2: probably doesn't want any of our business out there, but
Speaker 2: like maybe that maybe that'll be something I really try
Speaker 2: to get this weekend is clarity.
Speaker 3: Okay, are you kidding? Because what I think.
Speaker 2: Has happened is her sister my my I was gonna
Speaker 2: call her my niece. She's not money, she's my sister
Speaker 2: in law, but she's her younger sister. She just had
Speaker 2: her second baby, and the baby's about a month old now,
Speaker 2: and she's got the baby fever because she's been around
Speaker 2: a new baby, which I need to tell her like, hey,
Speaker 2: we love that baby, and uh, you know we but
Speaker 2: like do that do we really want to do this
Speaker 2: all over again? So anyways, last thing before we move
Speaker 2: on and dive back into you know, the hard hitting
Speaker 2: sports show that this is I just mentioned, you know,
Speaker 2: I try to try to find ways to really utilize technology,
Speaker 2: learn about it and how it can it can benefit me?
Speaker 2: Or do you use AI for much of anything? Austin?
Speaker 3: Oh Yeah, okay, so I use it a lot.
Speaker 2: So I kind of feel like for a lot of
Speaker 2: folks me me, especially maybe even you, there was like
Speaker 2: the noise about AI was this fear that it was
Speaker 2: going to take all these jobs, and I'm sure it
Speaker 2: has to an extent and that it was going to
Speaker 2: you know, like, let me give you an example of
Speaker 2: the extreme side of artificial intelligence. When I hear music
Speaker 2: that is completely AI. That's scary to me because you
Speaker 2: would not know that it's not a real artist. You
Speaker 2: would not know that it's not like somebody who is
Speaker 2: super like that that really I mean, it's it's it's
Speaker 2: how gifted. I guess technologically we have advanced to where
Speaker 2: they can, like whoever whoever creates artificial intelligence and the
Speaker 2: different tools that you can you know, you can use
Speaker 2: to to, you know, do things that I would have
Speaker 2: never believed you can do until I saw it. Like
Speaker 2: that's cool and all, But like if if there could
Speaker 2: be a song that I listened to for you know,
Speaker 2: two months that I'm like, man, it's from my favorite
Speaker 2: songs ever, I just love this song.
Speaker 3: It's great.
Speaker 2: But then if I found out, like two months later
Speaker 2: that it wasn't real, it was just created by technology,
Speaker 2: I would I would I would not like it, like,
Speaker 2: because I would I would know that it's not real.
Speaker 2: Like music is one thing that like, we should never
Speaker 2: use AI in any way because at that point you're
Speaker 2: truly taking away what it is, which is art. But again,
Speaker 2: like some of the music you like, there's TikTok channels
Speaker 2: that are specifically set up to just create silly songs
Speaker 2: or sometimes songs that like are good and you would
Speaker 2: never like, you'd never know, Like somebody recreated a Drake
Speaker 2: in the Weekend song about a year ago and it
Speaker 2: went like crazy viral and it was I think one
Speaker 2: of the first songs that like took off that was
Speaker 2: clearly AI and everybody realized or I shouldn't say, I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was clearly AI. I don't
Speaker 2: think you know, if nobody told you, but like it
Speaker 2: was scary for people to realize. So you're telling me, AI,
Speaker 2: is that powerful to where you could give us this
Speaker 2: and just tell us that it's Drake and and future
Speaker 2: of the Weekend and we wouldn't know, And you know.
Speaker 3: That's the truth.
Speaker 2: So long story short, the noise was always about all
Speaker 2: this is scary, which I guess that technically that is
Speaker 2: still the case in some aspects. But I now have
Speaker 2: realized all the things you can do to make your
Speaker 2: life easier, and I guess that's kind of where you're
Speaker 2: at now, right, Like you realize, you know why, you'd
Speaker 2: be foolish not to learn how to utilize it to
Speaker 2: really help you in a variety of ways. And it's
Speaker 2: really not that difficult to utilize. And now there's I
Speaker 2: have learned that to really get the full benefit of
Speaker 2: using AI for certain things, and you can use it
Speaker 2: for a lot of things. Trust me. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of these platforms that will make you pay like a
Speaker 2: monthly fee to be able to use it as much
Speaker 2: as you want. They'll give you a couple of free
Speaker 2: chances to kind of see how powerful it is, and
Speaker 2: then if you like it, you can then you know,
Speaker 2: subscribe and you can use it endlessly. And I'm doing
Speaker 2: that now. There's a few different services that I've realized
Speaker 2: that that really that really like honestly show prep not ideas,
Speaker 2: not content that like like I'm not telling hey, AI
Speaker 2: prepare a show for me, because even if it could
Speaker 2: do that, that would take out all the fun and
Speaker 2: value of what doing this is.
Speaker 3: Do you have a favorite AI?
Speaker 2: I mean, I use chad GPT for a lot of stuff,
Speaker 2: but when it comes and really that's the one I
Speaker 2: utilize most. But you know, like I guess, really that's right,
Speaker 2: but Twitter now has one. I guess X is what
Speaker 2: it's called. But there's Grock is amazing.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's my favorite.
Speaker 2: So I pay for the for the premium account. And
Speaker 2: it's because you can, first of all, you can earn
Speaker 2: some money if you have a decent amount of following.
Speaker 2: It's not a lot of money, but you know, it
Speaker 2: pays for itself because I now have you know, I
Speaker 2: get enough traffic on my tweets to where it justifies
Speaker 2: the you know, twenty nine to nine to nine a
Speaker 2: month or whatever it is.
Speaker 3: But also groc is like.
Speaker 2: Maybe the most useful one that I have found for
Speaker 2: preparing for the show, because what I can do is
Speaker 2: I can just click the Grock button on a tweet
Speaker 2: that either has a lengthy exchange a thread I should say,
Speaker 2: or an article or just like a long tweet, and
Speaker 2: I click the Crock button and it gives me like
Speaker 2: three or four bullet points and also another bullet point
Speaker 2: that has like reaction to what the story is. And it,
Speaker 2: I mean, it makes it to where I don't have
Speaker 2: to read every single article. I can just get really
Speaker 2: the gist of what it is and it's already like
Speaker 2: in bullet point form to where I can reference that
Speaker 2: on the show. Like it makes it a lot easier
Speaker 2: to compile I what I put together every day for
Speaker 2: show preps. So you know, I just I used to
Speaker 2: be scared about AI, Like you know, it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2: It's scary, they're we're all going to become robots, and
Speaker 2: who knows, maybe that ends up still happening.
Speaker 3: But I would encourage you.
Speaker 2: I feel like, no matter what it is you do
Speaker 2: for work, or maybe what you do for like a
Speaker 2: hobby that's not work, you can probably find an AI
Speaker 2: tool and really ched gbt is is is a powerful
Speaker 2: one for sure, to where like you might you might think, Okay,
Speaker 2: maybe this AI stuff isn't so bad. It can really
Speaker 2: help me.
Speaker 3: What do you use it for? I use it for
Speaker 3: that what you do for the marketing stuff or the promotion?
Speaker 4: Right, I use it if I'm having a hard time
Speaker 4: trying to put together like something like a like a
Speaker 4: social media post, something that'll capture your attention, I'll just
Speaker 4: tell it, like, Hey, make me a Facebook, Instagram post,
Speaker 4: ex post about this, include these bullet points, make it
Speaker 4: sound fun and loot emojis Also if sometimes if I
Speaker 4: just want to get like a question and I realize
Speaker 4: that GROC only it just not only goes off just
Speaker 4: its own AI, but it also just goes off of
Speaker 4: Twitter too, and so like it searches tweets And that's
Speaker 4: how like some I've asked you, I've used it for
Speaker 4: interviews for like babyfaces and stuff like that. Some of
Speaker 4: the uh meta ais is all right. Chatted chat GPTs
Speaker 4: is all right, but they're not as up to date
Speaker 4: as GROC is because they could go by real time posts.
Speaker 4: So like when I'm asking something about like a wrestler
Speaker 4: storyline or something that recently happened to them online to
Speaker 4: try and gain traction, GROC will take some of that
Speaker 4: stuff and add it into the question for me. Because
Speaker 4: I don't feel like I'm really like a great interviewer,
Speaker 4: just because a lot of the times I just like
Speaker 4: to go off the feeling. I don't like having no
Speaker 4: exactly what you mean stuff for me. But when I
Speaker 4: get into the action and someone's right there in front
Speaker 4: of me, I kind of I get a little nervous.
Speaker 4: It's so if I have something right there to go
Speaker 4: off of, GROC always helps me out with that.
Speaker 2: Reference point can go a long way for that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff, and you can still kind of reference it
Speaker 2: and then put your own flavor on it and do
Speaker 2: it the way you want to where correct, you know,
Speaker 2: and maybe some people wouldn't care, but you wouldn't feel
Speaker 2: like you truly relied solely on artificial intelligence to do
Speaker 2: the interview. But it gave you something to kind of
Speaker 2: reference it. And that's I mean, I did the exact
Speaker 2: same thing. I don't remember which president it was one
Speaker 2: of the former presidents that passed away right around the
Speaker 2: beginning of January. I believe it was might have been, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it was either very into December early January,
Speaker 2: one of the former presidents passed away. And at the
Speaker 2: time I was filling in for Tony Cruz on has
Speaker 2: and you know, that was one of those days where like,
Speaker 2: regardless of what I wanted to talk about, like I
Speaker 2: knew that that was going to be something that came
Speaker 2: up on eight p forty because obviously that's the type
Speaker 2: of stuff that you would talk about, not the whole show,
Speaker 2: but like it's going to be a piece of it.
Speaker 2: So we had a correspondent from a belief Fox New
Speaker 2: or no CBS, CBS or NBC came on, and I
Speaker 2: really didn't even know where to start. So sure enough,
Speaker 2: I asked Chad Gpt. I said, Hey, I'm a sports guy.
Speaker 2: I you know, I'm I'm gonna be asking a you know,
Speaker 2: political question. Can you give me an idea as far
Speaker 2: as like what what type of things would need to
Speaker 2: be you know, we would should be asked given what
Speaker 2: the you know, given what the story is or whatnot.
Speaker 2: And all it did was just give me like four
Speaker 2: facts about the president himself and I can't I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure I know who it is, but I don't want
Speaker 2: to get wrong and say they're wrong president. I don't
Speaker 2: want to kill a president today, you know, by just
Speaker 2: not remembering which one it actually was.
Speaker 3: It me.
Speaker 2: Yes, that sounds right, yeah so and that just happened recently.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so anyways, but again, it just gave me
Speaker 2: like a reference. You know, I would never ever and again,
Speaker 2: even if you could get away with it like nobody knowing, it.
Speaker 3: Would absolutely completely.
Speaker 2: Take away I think any fun that you get out
Speaker 2: of this because in a way like not to not
Speaker 2: to be I don't trust me. I know what we
Speaker 2: what we do here is not considered like super serious
Speaker 2: stuff and it's fun and all that, which it is.
Speaker 2: But like, you know, the ability to be creative and
Speaker 2: like you know, kind of treat a show as a
Speaker 2: canvas and and and make it what you want. That's
Speaker 2: what makes this fun. So you know, I really, I
Speaker 2: really think AI can can help people more than maybe
Speaker 2: a lot of folks actually actually realize.
Speaker 3: Here's the real question. When you're done, do you think AI?
Speaker 3: Do you say thank you?
Speaker 1: Grock?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 4: Should I h That's what I do, just just so
Speaker 4: they remember when they inevitably, you know, get a mind
Speaker 4: of their own and become self aware.
Speaker 2: When you've asked them and shared enough to where they
Speaker 2: may be able to take over your life. Like they
Speaker 2: may be kind to you about it because you were nice.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 2: I may start doing that, bro exactly, and you're onto something.
Speaker 4: Selfishly, you know, I'll pop in a gummy sometimes and
Speaker 4: while I'm sitting there researching, I'll just start to ask
Speaker 4: a bunch of random questions, and oh, you can learn
Speaker 4: a lot. Had a conversation just you know, shooting the
Speaker 4: s with with AI back and forth and having to
Speaker 4: tell me some jokes every now and then, and I'll
Speaker 4: be like, all right, I'm going to sleep, thank you,
Speaker 4: and you know what, it will tell me good night,
Speaker 4: come talk to me whenever you want to.
Speaker 3: Here in here, you.
Speaker 2: Were letting me know that there's there's even other ways
Speaker 2: to utilize AI that I wasn't.
Speaker 3: So yeah, good stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I bet, let's be real, in
Speaker 2: twenty five years, maybe a lot of folks significant others
Speaker 2: going to be artificial intelligence and maybe you know, and
Speaker 2: by the way, that was one of the things that
Speaker 2: was at Zuckerberg. I think that was recently doing some
Speaker 2: kind of a might have been on THEO Vaughn actually,
Speaker 2: and he was talking about how when it comes to
Speaker 2: like mental health and whatnot, therapist that kind of stuff,
Speaker 2: like he believes the future is without question going to
Speaker 2: be that like that, like basically it'll be robots that
Speaker 2: are AI. I guess that that is your therapist and
Speaker 2: is your psychiatrist that kind of thing, and that just
Speaker 2: sounds gross and crazy, but like again, I won't be
Speaker 2: shocked if we end up there.
Speaker 3: And what gets me is that just the will.
Speaker 2: People be totally comfortable realizing that the root of where
Speaker 2: they're getting said guid and you know, like from a
Speaker 2: therapist or whatnot is not a real person. But again,
Speaker 2: I think right now we're we're in the early stages
Speaker 2: of this thing to where people are clearly learning, Hey,
Speaker 2: I know that it's not an individual that I asked
Speaker 2: this question, meaning there's not a human on the other
Speaker 2: side of this this communication that I have on my phone.
Speaker 2: But man, i'd never know, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 2: it's again it's a balancing thing to where it's really
Speaker 2: impressive and it's like, wow, this is useful for this
Speaker 2: and that it can help me. But then also there
Speaker 2: are moments where I'm like, yeah, you know, this might
Speaker 2: like we may all just be what's the Will.
Speaker 3: Smith movie where I am robot?
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, that was pretty scary how that all came about,
Speaker 2: which I don't know if that's in any way a
Speaker 2: realistic thing. But is it I am robot or I
Speaker 2: robot something like something robot.
Speaker 3: I think it's I am robot something robot.
Speaker 4: Well, Google now does the thing to where like you
Speaker 4: could just google something and the first answer is going
Speaker 4: to be AI generated.
Speaker 3: It's no longer the searches.
Speaker 2: But they are. But I think you mentioned this a
Speaker 2: moment ago. The big difference is that certain things you
Speaker 2: search are live real time. However, like if you search
Speaker 2: certain things in chat GBT, they can only tell you
Speaker 2: as far as going back a certain date.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why time that information was available.
Speaker 2: And because of what twitter x is. That's why GROCK
Speaker 2: is actually really useful, because you know, there's never any
Speaker 2: real downtime. Anything that's live, that has just happened is
Speaker 2: oftentimes quickly being discussed on the platform. So when it
Speaker 2: uses the AI tool that's within the platform, I mean
Speaker 2: like it doesn't take them long to however, it works
Speaker 2: gather whatever info you requested. I mean, it's really really useful,
Speaker 2: and I don't want to get too used to it
Speaker 2: because who knows, maybe it's not there any at some point.
Speaker 2: But I'm going to take advantage of it while I can,
Speaker 2: that's for sure.
Speaker 4: All Right.
Speaker 2: We got to get to a quick break. We'll let
Speaker 2: you hear more. Pat Kelsey coming up here. He is
Speaker 2: at the ACC Spring meetings. Get a good conversation with
Speaker 2: Mark Packer and Louke Hancock on set on the ACC network.
Speaker 3: We heard a little bit of it earlier.
Speaker 2: We'll hear some more as we move along. Also, we
Speaker 2: got to talk about the NBA playoffs, because again I'll
Speaker 2: continue to give credit. I think they've They've had the
Speaker 2: best start in a long time. I'm trying to think
Speaker 2: back on a year where the first round in the
Speaker 2: second round up to this point have been this entertaining
Speaker 2: and last night what a game, and also some more
Speaker 2: I guess reaction to the Mavericks winning the lottery and
Speaker 2: getting the number one pick and they're gonna take Cooper Flag.
Speaker 2: I rarely find myself listening to Mike Greenberg and thinking, yeah,
Speaker 2: what a great take. You tell them, Man, that was perfect.
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more it me. But like Greenie, I mean,
Speaker 2: he was handing out body bags to anybody complaining about
Speaker 2: the way the NFL. I'm sorry, the NBA handles tanking.
Speaker 2: So we'll let you hear that too. And again I
Speaker 2: usually wouldn't sell you, Hey, you're gonna They got Greenie
Speaker 2: on every show, which I think that's why they're bringing
Speaker 2: rich Eisen back because Greeney can't do everything. But he
Speaker 2: had something that I think is worth hearing because it's
Speaker 2: totally true when it comes to tanking, and it kind
Speaker 2: of it speaks to the root of what I believe
Speaker 2: has been an issue for the NBA for a while now,
Speaker 2: which is that it's just not competitive at times. Now again,
Speaker 2: the plaoffs have been a great step in the right direction.
Speaker 2: But anyways, quick break, keep a locked right here on
Speaker 2: Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1: Now back to coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's on
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Speaker 2: That's right, it is coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's
Speaker 2: here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Appreciate you guys hanging
Speaker 2: out with us. We are out a little early today
Speaker 2: because the Louis Bats are in action this afternoon, and
Speaker 2: we'll wrap it up around five thirty five, So just
Speaker 2: just a heads up, we'll make the most of the
Speaker 2: time that we have left here at least we'll we'll
Speaker 2: try to what I want to do at the five
Speaker 2: o'clock hour when it gets rolling. Take a look at
Speaker 2: the update from those covering the college football playoff spring meetings,
Speaker 2: because Ross Ellinger has a nice little update and I
Speaker 2: think it's, you know, not a surprise, but I'll just
Speaker 2: read directly what it says here at the beginning of
Speaker 2: his as he shares his article on Twitter, it says,
Speaker 2: the fight over the future of college football's postseason is
Speaker 2: growing messy, which again I don't think there's any surprise
Speaker 2: there because regardless of whatever it is, they are at
Speaker 2: odds about, you have you have the this unrealistic expectation
Speaker 2: that they're all going to look out for one another
Speaker 2: when no, like the ACC should only be prioritizing and
Speaker 2: caring about what is best for them, just like the
Speaker 2: SEC and the Big Ten. So anyways, we'll get to
Speaker 2: that coming up a little bit later on, but one
Speaker 2: of the biggest talking points this week in sports is
Speaker 2: that we now know where Cooper Flag's gonna end up,
Speaker 2: the phenom that is believed to be one of the
Speaker 2: next best things in basketball. I mean, that's probably not
Speaker 2: the best way to describe it. I was kind of
Speaker 2: spinning my wheels there as far as how to say it,
Speaker 2: but I mean, this guy has been in the in
Speaker 2: the public eye for many years now, and for many
Speaker 2: years now there have been people saying that he has
Speaker 2: the potential to be one of the best that ever
Speaker 2: played this game. So obviously, whoever won the lottery's going
Speaker 2: to take him, and we now know that's the Dallas Mavericks,
Speaker 2: and boy did they get lucky. They've got a real
Speaker 2: opportunity to absolutely make people forget that Luke ever played there.
Speaker 2: I mean that's probably not super realistic, an exaggeration, I
Speaker 2: guess on my end, but I mean, as we talked
Speaker 2: about yesterday, Lucas great, but Cooper flag all accounts, is
Speaker 2: expected to be better. And if he's good early on,
Speaker 2: you have some good pieces, although old and often injured
Speaker 2: like Dallas, could be really good soon and you know
Speaker 2: you won't forget Luke ever happened, but you won't be
Speaker 2: sitting back thinking, man, can you believe we completely threw
Speaker 2: away our franchise with that trade that we made? And
Speaker 2: I think had the Mavericks ended up with what the
Speaker 2: twelfth or thirteenth pick, that probably would have been the
Speaker 2: way a lot of their fans felt. And look, I
Speaker 2: don't think Dallas probably had any real belief they were
Speaker 2: going to be I mean again, they had a one
Speaker 2: point something percent chance of getting the number one pick
Speaker 2: and they got it. So I mean that's the unexpected
Speaker 2: lottery winner. I mean, quite literally, that's what it was.
Speaker 2: So teams now tank in hopes of getting a better
Speaker 2: chance at getting a draft pick that they want at
Speaker 2: the top of the draft. They set players out at
Speaker 2: times because you know, load management or whatever rest, and
Speaker 2: sometimes it's you know, easy to see that they are
Speaker 2: they are absolutely not doing that just because of the rest.
Speaker 2: They're just they're not they don't want to win, and
Speaker 2: they're trying to be as deceptive as possible to make
Speaker 2: it look like they're just really bad. And some teams
Speaker 2: don't have to try hard to tank, others do, and
Speaker 2: there's a lot of reaction, I guess I should say,
Speaker 2: for lack of a better word, about the Mavericks winning
Speaker 2: the lottery and those that are crying poor me are
Speaker 2: teams that tanked. And I didn't even realize this, but
Speaker 2: Adam Silver is now handling the lottery differently in the
Speaker 2: NBA than than previous because he's trying to put an
Speaker 2: end to teams just deciding we're gonna suck because we
Speaker 2: you know, we just want to. We want to we
Speaker 2: don't want to compete because we're just holding out hope
Speaker 2: that we can get a good draft pick, like teams
Speaker 2: that have a terrible history of he actually you know,
Speaker 2: drafting well are openly not trying to win and hopes
Speaker 2: that they can get another good draft pick, and you know,
Speaker 2: hope that this time around they won't mess it up.
Speaker 2: So this is what Greenberg had to say, and I
Speaker 2: just felt like it was, you know, it needed to
Speaker 2: be said, and.
Speaker 3: It's the truth.
Speaker 2: Tanking will always be there to an extent, but the
Speaker 2: fact that it's just so in your face as an
Speaker 2: NBA casual fan like I am, that a lot of
Speaker 2: teams don't even care if they win or lose night in,
Speaker 2: night in and night out in an eighty two game season,
Speaker 2: like you gotta figure, you gotta, you gotta do something
Speaker 2: to improve the optics to your to your customers, to
Speaker 2: your fans, because if we know that nobody really cares
Speaker 2: more often than not in the regular season because they
Speaker 2: play too many games and you know, now you can
Speaker 2: even play in to get into the playoff like over time,
Speaker 2: and it's happened. People don't watch anymore, and I mean
Speaker 2: NBA viewership is down substantially, and I think a root
Speaker 2: of that is that is that it's just been like again,
Speaker 2: just think of just say it out loud. We're used
Speaker 2: to it by now, but NBA teams will just tell
Speaker 2: you a player is just not gonna play despite making
Speaker 2: millions of dollars, despite being fully healthy. Yeah, load management,
Speaker 2: We're just gonna sit him for the next few games
Speaker 2: just because, like that's insane. But we're we're used to
Speaker 2: it because it's been a thing for a while now.
Speaker 2: But here's Greenberg, and I thought he put it put
Speaker 2: it very well.
Speaker 5: The Utah Jazz got the fifth pick last night. That
Speaker 5: means that the team with the worst record has now
Speaker 5: not selected first overall in seven straight seasons, coinciding with
Speaker 5: the start of the new lottery format. So when Adam
Speaker 5: Silver changed around, tweaked a few things there. He did it,
Speaker 5: and he came on the show and talked about it
Speaker 5: because he recognizes, as should every sports fan. Tanking is
Speaker 5: a scourge. Tanking is a disgrace. Tanking runs contrary to
Speaker 5: literally everything sports is designed to be incentivizing. Losing is
Speaker 5: the worst mistake any sport can possibly make, any sports
Speaker 5: league can make, and as a result, I think it
Speaker 5: is great news. People saying, oh, this isn't working because
Speaker 5: the worst teams they aren't getting.
Speaker 1: The pick, shut up.
Speaker 5: That's exactly It's the wrong way to look at it.
Speaker 5: This way, win games. Go out there and win games
Speaker 5: and see what happens. And you know what should happen.
Speaker 5: The NFL should add this, Yes, yes, every sport should
Speaker 5: had this. The lottery is a brilliant idea and I
Speaker 5: would completely favor I know Chefty was on talking about
Speaker 5: it on the radio this morning. I would absolutely be
Speaker 5: in favor of the NFL going to some sort of
Speaker 5: draft lottery so you stop with the tanking, which is
Speaker 5: the worst thing in sports you had.
Speaker 2: I totally agree, and I think it would change a
Speaker 2: lot about the NFL. The NFL is so different because
Speaker 2: there's such fewer games. But like, I remember having sort
Speaker 2: of that mindset of like as a fan myself. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's just unnatural to ever turn on your TV when
Speaker 2: your team's on and want them to lose. I mean
Speaker 2: there was kind of a weird balancing of that when
Speaker 2: Kenny Payne was here, because you felt like, if you
Speaker 2: want a few more games than he did, maybe they'd
Speaker 2: keep him. So it was like, Okay, we need to
Speaker 2: you know, we need to be bad enough to where like,
Speaker 2: but you don't root them to lose.
Speaker 3: You can't.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just people can do whatever they want.
Speaker 2: I can only speak for myself, but I wouldn't be
Speaker 2: able to genuinely watch Louisville in any way and say
Speaker 2: I hope that they don't win this game, Like I
Speaker 2: just it's it's an when that's all you've ever done
Speaker 2: and you put so much into it, and you are,
Speaker 2: you know, have invested a lot emotionally, probably more than
Speaker 2: most normal people. I mean, and I'm one of the
Speaker 2: non normal people, is what I'm saying. Like it's just
Speaker 2: unnatural and damn near impossible to have that emotion of like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I hope the other team beats us today. So the
Speaker 2: Colts at times have had situations where they're not good,
Speaker 2: and like if it ends up playing out to where
Speaker 2: they get a great pick because they were bad, then
Speaker 2: that is a good scenario. But I can't watch my
Speaker 2: Colts and want them to lose, even though there have
Speaker 2: been times where it's like, okay, you keep you keep losing,
Speaker 2: then we'll be in a better spot to draft. So
Speaker 2: again I understand the NFL, like you're really not doing
Speaker 2: your job if you're not two things. You're not doing
Speaker 2: your job if you're not competing and trying every single
Speaker 2: day to go to work and get better to again
Speaker 2: in the end, win games. That's what you're paid to do.
Speaker 2: In every aspect. No matter what your role is within
Speaker 2: a staff on an NFL team, you are there to
Speaker 2: put in work to where in hopes that the team wins. Now,
Speaker 2: some have a much bigger factor in that than others,
Speaker 2: but that's what this is all about.
Speaker 3: You do it to win.
Speaker 2: But also on the other side of it, if you
Speaker 2: know that you could potentially finish strong and not make
Speaker 2: the playoffs, but you know have three more wins at
Speaker 2: the end of the season and that would be a
Speaker 2: strong finish, you know you always would rather win than lose,
Speaker 2: but it will put you in a worse position for
Speaker 2: your draft placement. Like that puts the NFL decision makers,
Speaker 2: I think, in a tough spot because it's unnatural. Like
Speaker 2: I'll never criticize anybody who won't tank. I'll never criticize
Speaker 2: players who throw their franchise under the bus and call
Speaker 2: them out because they want to win. That's why they're there,
Speaker 2: That's why they're in the NFL because they have a
Speaker 2: legitimate level of competitive drive.
Speaker 3: To where they're.
Speaker 2: Talented and gifted, but they do it to win, Like
Speaker 2: that's what it's from the beginning of ever playing sports.
Speaker 2: Why do you do it to compete? In hopes of
Speaker 2: getting a win. So I don't think the NFL will
Speaker 2: make any kind of change, but if they did, I
Speaker 2: would be fine with it, because again, any league, any sport,
Speaker 2: any level, just like Greenie said, incentivizing you to intentionally
Speaker 2: try to lose, that's a terrible way to do it.
Speaker 2: That is broken, and it just it's foolish, it really is.
Speaker 2: So anyways, yeah, I thought Greenee was spot on and
Speaker 2: I wanted to share that with you guys as well.
Speaker 2: All right, quick break before we do that. Though there's
Speaker 2: no way this is a coincidence. You guys, remember what
Speaker 2: happened about a year ago, right Louisville had the spotlight
Speaker 2: on it in a major way national, in fact, across
Speaker 2: the planet globally. There were a lot of people talking
Speaker 2: about what went on in Louisville. And it was when
Speaker 2: an officer with LMPD to say, to Cuff and stuff,
Speaker 2: Scotty Scheffler take him down to get booked at our jail,
Speaker 2: which still doesn't really seem real, but that was I mean,
Speaker 2: that was a bad look for Louisville, and unfortunately, you know,
Speaker 2: it was clearly avoidable in every way. We've since learned
Speaker 2: that it was very much avoidable, and I think that,
Speaker 2: you know, it could have been handled better, for sure,
Speaker 2: But I also didn't quite realize just how well the
Speaker 2: story itself is going to be. I mean, it's controversial,
Speaker 2: it's drama, it's crime like, it has all the bells
Speaker 2: and whistles that really put a story above others. But
Speaker 2: it's also like, you can't make this stuff up. And
Speaker 2: it was a worldwide story about Scotty Scheffler getting arrested
Speaker 2: on his way to compete at Balhalla in the PGA Championship.
Speaker 2: So Scotty Scheffler today shows up with the pg Championship
Speaker 2: wearing a distinctive color orange that happens to look almost
Speaker 2: the exact same color as the orange jumpsuit he wore
Speaker 2: as he got booked into Louisville Metro corrections. I happen
Speaker 2: to believe there's no scenario that that's a coincidence. And
Speaker 2: I guess I don't know a lot about Scheffler as
Speaker 2: an individual, don't really know a lot about golf, as
Speaker 2: I've let you guys know before, but I feel like
Speaker 2: he has at least shown some signs of being willing
Speaker 2: to kind of like lean into a joke and have
Speaker 2: some fun with it. And I you know, I don't
Speaker 2: blame him. I don't blame him. He could have been
Speaker 2: and should have been. I think a lot more. You know,
Speaker 2: a lot of people wouldn't have handled that the way
Speaker 2: he did, in my opinion, and I'm happy that he did,
Speaker 2: because you know, it's not some people are just going
Speaker 2: to forget about today, you know, So again, I think
Speaker 2: he handled it better than most would. But the bene
Speaker 2: you know, if we if this is the end result,
Speaker 2: that he always wears that orange every year the PGA
Speaker 2: Championship happens. I mean it's fair, Like I get it, Like,
Speaker 2: you know, make fun of our police department who made
Speaker 2: a big mistake. And again one or two that were involved.
Speaker 2: You know, they don't represent you know, the entire group,
Speaker 2: but man, learning about some things that previously took place
Speaker 2: or actually took place after the fact, two specific officers,
Speaker 2: I remember thinking like, well, yeah, like that, these are
Speaker 2: the kind of people that, you know, we're.
Speaker 3: Supposed to just take their work for.
Speaker 2: But if we knew what they'd been written up for,
Speaker 2: what they've been reprimanded for, like we would think, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is the kind of unfortunate This is the kind
Speaker 2: of officer that might stretch something and make it something
Speaker 2: way bigger than it needs to be. Because there's a
Speaker 2: lot to unpack from that whole situation. But the one
Speaker 2: thing that still sticks with me a year later was
Speaker 2: that whole thing was just avoidable and it became a
Speaker 2: black eye for Louisville, became a black eye for LMPD,
Speaker 2: and you know it's unfortunate, but hey, we'll move on
Speaker 2: from it at some point, I guess, quick break keep
Speaker 2: it locked right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 2: the hell that means. I mean, I know what it means,
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Speaker 2: even though I'm logged, you know, we log into different
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Speaker 2: so I guess that's what happens. So anyway, sorry about that.
Speaker 2: I hate when that happens, and you know it's my fault,
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Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: Again, we're out here a little earlier than we typically
Speaker 2: are because of the Bats game coming up here. The Bats,
Speaker 2: of course, we'll be heard right here on Sports seven nineties,
Speaker 2: so real quick. NBA, we won't spend much time on
Speaker 2: it in the next hour, so I want to go
Speaker 2: ahead and get to it. But the NBA playoffs, as
Speaker 2: we've discussed, have been much better than I anticipated, and
Speaker 2: as much as I was critical, I got to show
Speaker 2: love whenever it's necessary. And I've been highly entertained and
Speaker 2: I know I'm not the only one. And last night
Speaker 2: Jokic doing Yokic things against the Thunder, I mean, what
Speaker 2: a finish. I did not want that game to end.
Speaker 2: But as Jokic has had eclipsed the forty point mark,
Speaker 2: just giving buckets and then shooting, did you see that
Speaker 2: fadeaway three he hit and crunch time? Like who even
Speaker 2: shoots that? I mean, Jokic is so good. He's one
Speaker 2: of the best players in my lifetime. I'm convinced of that.
Speaker 2: I didn't need last night for me to believe that.
Speaker 2: But I'm telling you there's something about his appearance that
Speaker 2: makes it even more like noticeable how good he is,
Speaker 2: because you would just never look at someone with that build,
Speaker 2: with that stature. I mean, he's a big man, so
Speaker 2: trust me, he's large, but like to me, physical appearance,
Speaker 2: first impression of somebody who looks like Jokic, you would say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: that guy. He might have played in the NBA back
Speaker 2: in the eighties, but nah, he's some lumbering, slow, big
Speaker 2: that you know, looks like he pounds a twelve pack
Speaker 2: of beer after every game and eats nachos at halftime, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he couldn't hang in this day's NBA, this modern NBA,
Speaker 2: and all he does is give anybody anything he wants.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's so good, and I mean you're never
Speaker 2: out of it with him. I mean, he's that special.
Speaker 2: And then there was a play last night. Another thing
Speaker 2: that really was an observation that this is not something
Speaker 2: I was unaware of, but seeing Murray for the Nuggets
Speaker 2: and obviously SGA for the Thunder who's the front runner
Speaker 2: of the MVP Award this year, Like to see them
Speaker 2: going back and forth, and there was an and one
Speaker 2: bucket that Shay got later or maybe just got fouled,
Speaker 2: and you know, it took me until he got to
Speaker 2: the free throw line SGA to realize and remember, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I got those guys. They were they both went to Kentucky.
Speaker 2: I don't think they played there together. But like the
Speaker 2: amount of guys Callus put in the NBA is really insane.
Speaker 2: And I'm not telling you anything you don't already know,
Speaker 2: but now that these guys, a lot of them have
Speaker 2: turned into being some of the best players in the
Speaker 2: league at their position, respectively. I mean, we'll never see
Speaker 2: anything like that again, mostly due to just because how
Speaker 2: different things are. But I do wonder is there ever
Speaker 2: moments for Kentucky fans where they like they realized that, man,
Speaker 2: not only did we at times fall short, but we
Speaker 2: should have had a lot more rings than just the one.
Speaker 2: I mean, and a lot more is probably like three
Speaker 2: or four. And look what they used to tell themselves
Speaker 2: all the time is, well, you know, tournament is random.
Speaker 2: The tournament is random at times. Final four appearances are random.
Speaker 2: There are no random title winners. And the teams that
Speaker 2: knocked Kentucky out that clearly were in position to win
Speaker 2: a championship until they slipped up and got in their
Speaker 2: own way, like those teams like they had no business
Speaker 2: beating some of these Kentucky teams in the tournament, and
Speaker 2: they're not even to do about it now, and there's
Speaker 2: no reason to dwell. I'm not saying Kentucky fans should
Speaker 2: be sad about the cal Era, but I think more
Speaker 2: time that passes, especially now that he's gone, I do
Speaker 2: think there's gonna be some reflection as far as just
Speaker 2: you know, like, damn, we had we had a lot
Speaker 2: of really good players and a lot of good teams
Speaker 2: and some good times and some good runs. But you know,
Speaker 2: it'll never be seen again as far as the NBA
Speaker 2: factory that was in Lexington during Cal's time, and you
Speaker 2: just you would just expect there to be a little
Speaker 2: bit more hardware to show for it, but as we know,
Speaker 2: that didn't, that didn't happen.
Speaker 3: All right, let's do this. Let's gohe and get our
Speaker 3: break out of the way.
Speaker 2: We'll come back for one long segment and then we'll
Speaker 2: hand it off to Nick Kurran, the voice of the
Speaker 2: Louis of Bats, right here on Sports Talk seven ninety