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the reference or the knowledge to kind of tie scriptures

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back and say, oh, that's what they're talking about. So

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the show. And it's cool that, like a lot of

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topics that we discuss I won't go into it on

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the show unless I have somebody who I consider being

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an expert in the field. So man, thank you so

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much for coming on here hanging out with me for

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a little bit. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you for inviting me. And extremely happy to

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be here with you tonight and very much looking forward

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to the conversation. And I think what we're going to

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talk about is going to raise a lot of curiosity

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with the audience, and we're prepared to talk about it

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Speaker 5: Genesis six. We can start there. I want to skip

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it really quick and just talk about Enoch for a minute,

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because we can't really talk about Genesis six without talking

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about the Book of Enoch. One thing that I will

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say that it's definitely a resurgence of that book, and

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now it's starting to be accepted in many churches and

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church circles and those realms now where it was really

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taboo even ten years ago, ten fifteen years ago, it

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was taboo to bring up that book. Now pastors are

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preaching out of it and they're referencing back scriptures and stuff.

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Talk a little bit about the Book of Enoch coming

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back into light.

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Speaker 4: Well, it is extremely popular because it provides a lot

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of detail in terms of prehistory, in quantity and volume

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and in detail that is unprecedented in really any other

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book on prehistory about the giants, and so it runs

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fairly consistent with biblical scripture, not one scripture. It is apocryphal,

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convinced of that or not sure of that. And it

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does have some corruptions in there because it was you know,

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found and translated by the Gnostics. So and there's basically

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two different translations that are coming down. One as the

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Ethiopian one and one is the ara Americ one, and

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they're fairly similar, but traditionally there's just a few differences

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some markers in there because Alexander Bruce, who is the

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there's going to be some corruptions in there. So there's

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some small things in there, like the angels going to Noah,

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to warn them of the flood, which in building the

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arc for Noah that doesn't happen in the biblical account.

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five hundred and five fifty depending on which verse that

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you're reading in the Book of Enoch. And we know

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that that's not accurate. That that is that Enoch son

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of Seth as opposed to Enoch son of Cain. And

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people need to understand there's two Enochs, and just as

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there's Tulames, and the names are so very similar in

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the two genealogies that that would be what I would

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call a Masonic and a Gnostic marker. That they've corrupted

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it because they follow the ways of Enoch son of

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Caine and is one of their greatest patriarchs, just as

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two bellcane Is, as nama Is, as Jubel and jibal

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is and all the way through and Lmec of course

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of the of the Seth line. So they've just put

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I think what they've done with that book as they've

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corrupted it. But it is apocryphal. But if you want

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to have an eye opening read and have something that

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runs very very close to scripture. It will provide details

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of Genesis six that will just sort of blow your mind.

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Speaker 5: Two places we could go from there that I would

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love to interject. First of all, do you think that

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Jesus had knowledge of the info that's in this book?

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of the knowledge of these books, and they had it

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they were passed around and read as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there was obviously there's a reference, particularly in Jude

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where it references the Book of Enoch, and so we

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know there was legitimately an uncorrupted book. And is this

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the one we don't We're not sure. But what we

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do know. What I do know is that certainly Jesus,

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as being the Word of God and being the Alpha

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Omega and the first creation of God, would be very

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well aware of all of this information that would be

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in the Book of Enoch in whatever well else may

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not be in there, or whatever may be not quite right.

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whether or not it was part of the you know,

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the hagiography that was part of the ancient scrolls in

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Jerusalem or even before that. We're not sure. And there's

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so many books that were lost. The Old Testament was

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sort of built upon, so I think at some point

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in time they had it. We don't know exactly when

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they lost it, but I'm pretty sure that most of

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the profits would be aware of it based on the

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history of the sort of the ancient ology of how

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far the profits go back, right, So I would think

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they were aware of it.

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Speaker 5: It definitely gives you a look into the realm. And

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the weird thing is a lot of those books that

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were taken out or apocryphal books, they deal with the

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spirit world and how they operate and how they affect

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mankind and humanity and things like that. That's very interesting

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that that's something that most of these books had in common.

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I have a friend of mine who's a scholar in

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the in the area as well. He made this statement.

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It's kind of a bold statement, but I tend to

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believe it. He says that you can't fully understand the

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Bible without the Book of Enoch. Would you agree with that?

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Speaker 4: I would disagree with that. I think it's a it's

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a good companion book, but I think there's so much

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that's in the Bible that people overlook, and it's there.

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the holes. It fills in the holes, and it will

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help you flag versus and passages and it'll just all

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of a sudden pop out to you. So I certainly,

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you know, sure I would go quite that far, but

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it will really help you understand, you know, the.

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Speaker 5: So you think you think that there's a lot in

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Genesis six that would kind of fill in those gaps too, right, Oh?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. I mean when it comes to the giants, I

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mean we get very stingy details before the flood, we

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get more details of them after the flood, at least

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of more tribes and how they affected the early post

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Alluvion epoch to a certain degree. But Enoch, I mean

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it is, I mean, it's it's a large book that

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is basically devoted to the anti Diluvian.

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Speaker 5: H There's so many this is there's so many places

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we can go with this, and I want to go

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with you, but probably let's just start it. Let's start

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from the beginning. Let's go let's set the framework for

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somebody who has no idea what the Genesis six. Conspiracy

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is you wrote a book by that title. Genesis six

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is a key chapter when we're understanding the giants, the Nephelim,

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the fallen angels, and that. So let's go to the

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beginning where you would lay the framework for.

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Speaker 4: What that is. Yeah, so let me just lay a

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quick sort of summary of what the book is all

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about so that people understand what we're talking about here.

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So the book begins in Genesis six and then it'll

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work its way back. But it's about how the sons

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of God go to the human females, the sons of

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the daughters of men, and copulate with them, marry them,

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have us, and produce giants, which are if you look

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in the King James Wible, it'll say giants, but if

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you take that back to Hebrew, it'll say nepheline. That's

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where nepheline will come from. So it's about how that

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takes place. But it's also about how these giants will

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partner with the descendants of king and with fallen angels,

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and how they will conspire to develop the knowledge in

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the mystic religions and create secret societies to usurp the

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antidiluvian world and rebel against God which brings on the flood,

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and how these groups and organizations cross the flood, how

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they affected their early post Alluvian epoch, how they affected

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our history, what they're doing today, and how they bring

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plan to bring about the end time and Antichrist. So

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it's literally a six thousand year investigation into what I

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call the House of Dragon and connecting the dots and

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all the different organizations and religious groups from around the world,

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how they're working together to bring this about.

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Speaker 5: So that would kind of tie into the thirteen bloodlines

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Speaker 4: That, yes, but maybe not quite as people may understand

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the thirteen blood lines there are. I mean, it's quite

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famous to thirteen bloodlines and whether or not it's a

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year thirteen blood line, and there's also a mythos of

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the thirteen American blood lines. I look at it as

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those are part of but it's about the worldwide bloodlines

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because the bloodlines of these giants go to all parts

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of the world. And when I talked about in sort

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of the preface what the book is about, that they

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usurped the kingships. They usurp the kingships after the flood

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again and they create all of the dynasties that will

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go down throughout the ages, whether or not it is

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or the dynasties in Central America, or the European dynasties

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or the Middle East dynasties, they all have this route

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with the nephilim usurping kingships very close after the after

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the flood is over.

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Speaker 5: Would you tie the and I don't know how studied

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you are on this topic, but I'm sure you are.

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Would you tie the fallen angels in with the gods

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of the Old Testament, the ones pretty much the Divine

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the earth. Or would there be a distinction between those

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gods and the fallen angels as some deities who are

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being worshiped and actually have a physical manifestation on the earth.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So in the Antideluvian epoch, you've got a minimum

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of seven major watchers as what they're called in Enoch

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or the grigory or seraphim angels as we will know

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them in the Bible, and under them, they've got many

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other angels. And you know, you have a consensus that

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there was maybe a seveny different cult centers overseen by

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various fallen angels, and a lot of people use that

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by the number of languages. You know people that are

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after the flood with Babylon. But you certainly do know

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that there's a council of gods that's spoken of in

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Psalms eighty two, and you also know in Deuteronomy that

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before Israel, and if you look at other translations spending this,

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when you're looking at it'll say sons of God, that

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the world was split by God up into certain aspects

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or regions or realms in the earth. So I think

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that those these were the governors of the anti do

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Luvine epoch. And again whether or not there was replacement

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once after the flood, because a lot of these compassioned angels,

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or at least all of the impassioned angels, would have

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been imprisoned into the Abyss for the for creating Nephilim

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in the first place, and so there may have been

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some replacements after the flood, But certainly there is no

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doubt that these were what I would call the celestial mafia,

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and they were set up rebellious cult centers that were

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all polytheists, and we're inciting humans to rebel against God,

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which is one of the key causes of the flight.

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as they're representatives on Earth and as demigods or kings

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of the Antidouvan world, and then again in the postal

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Speaker 5: Well, talking about those gods, those angels that ruled over

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certain regions and parts of the earth, do you think

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that those principalities as were told in the scriptures and

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powers and rulers of the air, do they still hold

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authority or rulership over the certain regions on the earth now?

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times what we've just seen, I've just practical experience driving

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from state to state and crossing a state line and

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feeling like a change and of what you're sensing when

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you cross the state line. Definitely down here in the South,

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acrossing from Alabama, Mississippi into Louisiana and that's where I'm from,

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but I would notice a change, and then getting to

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Florida and then getting back to Louisiana and a weird

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heaviness and things. Even now, do you think that that

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still exists, these principalities over the different regions.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so, And I think we look to

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some New Testament references and you've bade some with the principalities,

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and there's a few other ones. But the big thing

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to remember from my perspective is that Satan is still

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the prince of this world. He's still the prince and

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the power of this world because it hasn't been resolved yet,

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this whole issue. That's what we're going to go through

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at the end time. And so not all of the

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angels were impassion so they didn't all have sex, and

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it was only the impassioned ones. And the worst of

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the demons, of my understanding is we're sentenced to the

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Abyss for those crimes of the violation against the laws

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of creation. So that means there's many other unimpassioned angels

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that are still out there, and you still have the

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dividing up of the earth that we have no scripture

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to say that it was redivided or canceled or anything

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like that, So one presumes and that either of those

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were consolidated into smaller ones that weren't sentenced to the

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abyss or they're just replaced with other angels. And we

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know there's a lot of angels that actually rebelled because

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in Revelations we're told that there's ten thousand times ten thousand,

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that's one hundred million, right, and in Revelation twelve, either

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a third rebelled all at once or by the time

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of the end time or third world rebel. So there's

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like thirty three million of them, not just the two

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hundred that Enoch talks about going to Mount Herman so

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and there's a hierarchy to these angels as well. So yeah,

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I think there's still there the various regions and will

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do so until the end time. And I think that's

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part of what helps bring the end time on once

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the restrainer is removed.

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Speaker 5: I think I think it's cool too, because it kind

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of gives some credence to this where I believe it's

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Jesus says that this is do you not know that

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you shall judge the angels?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 5: Which angels? Is he talking about the angels that sin

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and left their first estate and came down and you know,

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did what they did with mankind, And that's what Jesus

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is talking about. You got a little info on.

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Speaker 4: That, yeah, And I actually will cover that off in

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a specific chapter in the book, and I call it

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Satan's revenge. And so my take on this whole thing

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is is that there is a rebellion before the creation

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of humankind. And there's many theories as to when that

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would take place, but I placed that certainly before the

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creation of humankind, and Adam is created two in the

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future time to have him in descendants raised above angels. Right,

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because angels rebelled, they had no free choice in terms

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of being created immortal, but they did obviously have a

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free choice to follow God or not, because many of

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them chose not to. But with the creation of humankind

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and Adam in particular, with his great commission, is that

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the fallen angels were jealous of this. They were wanting

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to make sure that this was not going to happen,

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So they were going to try and bring down Adam

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and humankind to prevent them from being raised higher than

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angels in the future time. And that's being able to

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judge these angels and the rebellion. So we're intricately and

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intimately connected to what happened in prehistory with the rebellion,

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and so what is playing out is the resolution to that.

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to have a high sort of presence given to it

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in the future time. And so in Eden you have

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Satan taking possession or avataring or coaching the serpent to

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bring Adam and Eve down for his first revenge. Genesis

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six would be the second revenge. And all throughout history

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he's trying to prevent humankind from achieving their destiny and

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from Israel being created and enable Israel to bring about

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the Messiah, and that the Messiah will bring about the

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redempt of humankind. And I think where they what their

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angels miscalculated was is they did not anticipate the resurrection.

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So when we hear about Jesus in one Peter going

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into the grave at the time of the resurrection or

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time of the crucifixion, I'm sorry, before the resurrection, just

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before he's talking to these rebellious angels and saying it's over.

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Your rebellion is officially failed. And when I rise on

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Sunday morning means humankind will be raised in the future

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at time and they will judge you for the crimes

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that you've done against them.

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Speaker 5: That's a very powerful book when it when it comes

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to talking about Enoch and talking and it kind of

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it kind of brings me to another scripture. But I

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want to go back and just ask you about it,

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because what is the deal with the hair? Okay, because

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it talks about an Enoch that they're looking down at

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these women who don't have their heads covered in their

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hair is what attracts them, like the beauty of their hair.

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And then we see on into the New Testament, it says,

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you know, to cover your heads, women, cover your heads

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because of the angels. It just throws that in there,

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and we have to give.

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Speaker 4: Reference first Corinthians eleven.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and then and then it says men not to

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It says that women ought to pray and make that

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connection with their head covered and men with their heads uncovered.

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What's the deal with the hair and the angels?

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Speaker 4: Well, it would seem that when the angels come into

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the physical world from the spiritual world and take on

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the form of body that they take on in the

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physical world, that they seemingly are subject to physical rules

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and regulations or in this case, temptations. And so I

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think they find that the women are beautiful, and just

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as a human male would find women beautiful. And I

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think it's the same sort of things that are going on.

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And you know, they left there, as Jude one and

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six says, as they left their habitat, and habit tackles

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back to the word cicutarian in Greek, and that is

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defined as a dwelling place for the spirit. So I

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think they put on the close of the physical world

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to have a dwelling place for their spirit here, and

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then that becomes affected by the physical world.

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Speaker 5: Very very controversial point here. I want to I want

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to ask you talking about dinosaurs. So when we read

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Enoch talks about the the angels mixing DNA and and

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and mixing with the animals and things like that, and uh,

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some people think that's where we get the movie The

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Island of Doctor Moreau mixing that the genetics there dinosaurs.

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Some people believe that the dinosaurs are the offspring of

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the fallen angels mixing with animals or some kind of monsters,

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because it talks about the Titans, you know, these big

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beasts that were formed out of the children, and they're

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fighting each other, they're at war, or do you tie

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the dinosaurs into that at all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let me see whether I can explain this in

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a fairly quick way that people can follow and understand

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and also keep it biblically based. So in Isaiah six

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you hear the term seraphim, and we've mentioned it earlier.

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Seraphim or serahf I M stands for one. So it's

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fiery serpent ones is how seraph is defined. And so

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these are the angels that are walking amongst the throne

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of God in the fiery Stones, and so they're a

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very high level of angel and part of the watcher

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group that we're governing, the anti deluvint epoch. So you

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have this this reptilian snakelike.

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Speaker 6: Being, and this being.

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Speaker 4: Has a face of a snake, face of a viper,

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and when it has its wings out, now you have

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a dragon. Dragon and serpent are the same sort of understanding.

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In antiquity or before Eden. After Eden, we look at

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the serpent as a slimy thing that crawls on the ground,

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but it had its limbs taken off, and it had

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its voice taken away, it had intelligence taken away, and

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so we have to understand that these were angels that

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look like reptilians, just as they're depicted as in gods

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around the world. So whether when you hear about quet

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Sequatal or any of the Central American feathered serpents, this

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is what they're describing. Or when you see the gods

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of Olympus or the gods of the Annaki described as

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serpents that's why, or the Nagas in India. It's a

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worldwide commonality. Now. Also in the Antidiluvian Age, whether or

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not it's before as in the gap theory that some

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people like to place the dinosaurs at or during the

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time before the flood, you have the creation of the nephilim,

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who also are going to look like their parents, right,

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They're going to have this snake like look, and that's

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why the kings of prehistory are depicted as serpents and

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with elongated skulls and glowing eyes, and high cheek bones

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and the extended chins. So we have this sort of

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reptilian thing carrying on, just as the serpent in Eden

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is a snake. So there's a reptilian thing going on here. Now.

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the Seven Sacred Sciences and the mysticism being developed by

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and Enoch sent of Kine's descendants, is going to be

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developed to a significant level, up to the level of

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DNA manipulation and technology beyond what we have today. Because

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if you look at what Jesus says, he says the

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Days of Noah, that his second coming or the end

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time will be like the days of Noah. We're not

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in the end time yet. We're getting maybe close, but

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we're not there yet. So then that means if it's

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going to be like the days of Noah, then that

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technology that they developed was even greater than what we

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have today, so they could do DNA manipulation. And also

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you have this understanding that the dinosaurs were like a

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giant creature, so very similar to the understanding of enophlum

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being a giant creature. And so is it DNA manipulation

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or is it approcreation with reptilian animals to create reptilian

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giants in the animal form could be either or we

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don't know. But what we do know is is before

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the name dinosaur was created a couple hundred years ago

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by the people in science of the Royal Society, which

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is a other rabbit hole to go down to. But

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I understand that that's backed by polytheist religion. Dinosaurs were

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known as dragons, right, And we also have description of Leviathon,

475
00:30:13,079 --> 00:30:16,200
which is a serpent like dragon in the Bible as well.

476
00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:20,440
That is certainly in and around in the Anti do

477
00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:23,960
Living epoch at some point in time. So I think

478
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,400
it's probably both that was going on, and not just

479
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,960
by the fallen angels, but by the humans who are

480
00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:34,240
following these watchers and developing their own technology. So I

481
00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:42,119
think you've got several different groups messing with creation and

482
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,680
violating the laws of creation to a level that we

483
00:30:47,839 --> 00:30:51,000
haven't even reached yet. And when it says the earth

484
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was corrupted, it means the whole earth was corrupted, and

485
00:30:56,519 --> 00:31:01,440
that includes the plants and all of the animals that genomes. Everything.

486
00:31:01,519 --> 00:31:06,279
I think was being corrupted to be a different thing

487
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,880
than what God had originally created, and I think that's

488
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part of what they were doing as part of their rebellion.

489
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Speaker 5: Just let everybody know the phone lines are open if

490
00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:16,880
you guys would like to call in and ask a

491
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,359
question or add to the show. You guys have the

492
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,359
ability to do that. The number is streaming across the

493
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top of the screen, and it's in the descriptions as well.

494
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We've got a couple of callers here. We'll get to

495
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your calls here shortly. So if you guys want to

496
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call in and speak with Gary Wayne about the Genesis

497
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,279
sixth conspiracy and any any questions that you have, call

498
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in tonight. This is the time to do it, okay.

499
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Speaker 4: So I was just going to just add if I could,

500
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,640
is that corrupted goes back to the Hebrew word chacav

501
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,319
and it's defined, as you know, to ruin, to decay,

502
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:55,000
or to spoil. So it's not just that there was

503
00:31:55,119 --> 00:31:57,160
violence on the earth when it says the whole earth

504
00:31:57,319 --> 00:32:00,200
was corrupted, the whole earth was spoiled, And I think

505
00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:03,920
that's what it's referring to in a larger context than

506
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:04,799
the standard dogma.

507
00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 5: So okay, So with the standard dogma, definitely we can

508
00:32:09,559 --> 00:32:12,920
approach that the what is it one hundred and twenty years?

509
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,359
Is that the life span of man or in one

510
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,559
hundred and twenty years is what you have until we

511
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:21,480
destroy the earth.

512
00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 4: What do you think on that?

513
00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 5: When it comes to Enoch as well, it kind of

514
00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:26,359
brings another perspective.

515
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:30,559
Speaker 4: Sure, my understanding of that one hundred and twenty years

516
00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:36,039
in Genesis six is that that's to restrict the life

517
00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:41,839
span of humans and the giants. And God intercedes, and

518
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:49,000
you look where it's positioned in the Genesis six account,

519
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,240
and it's right in there with the creation of the giants.

520
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:54,759
And that's no coincidence. It's not one hundred and twenty

521
00:32:54,839 --> 00:32:58,240
years to the flood, which some people will say because

522
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,519
the math doesn't add up right. It's only hundred years

523
00:33:01,559 --> 00:33:03,240
or ninety eight years spending on till you want to

524
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:07,119
calculate that, So it's not that. But what happens when

525
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,839
the fallen angels procreate with human females, they are passing

526
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,599
on what Enoch will call the counterfeit spirit. So somehow

527
00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:19,839
their spirit is being passed on and they're creating gods

528
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,839
or demigods in the physical realm, let's say gods. At

529
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,319
this point, they're created immortal and God steps in and says, no,

530
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:31,519
I'm not going to have a mortal spirit in the

531
00:33:31,559 --> 00:33:34,119
physical body in the physical world, and I'm going to

532
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,000
move to stop that. Now that takes a few generations

533
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:41,079
to take place. What happens with these giants who have

534
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,000
the immortal spirit is that their spirit ism is immortal,

535
00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:48,839
but their body is not. So at some point in

536
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,160
time they're going to die or their body is going

537
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,880
to wear out. But their spirit, because it's immortal, is

538
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,039
not permitted to go to sleep, it's not permitted to

539
00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:01,599
go to heaven, and it's going to roam the earth.

540
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,920
These are the demons. And this is why when we

541
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,839
see Jesus dealing with Legion in the New Testament and

542
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,960
they're afraid that they're going to send them either to

543
00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:13,880
judgment for before their time or to the Abyss with

544
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,280
their you know, the worst of their co conspirators. They're

545
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,199
still roaming the earth today as bodily spirits. And this

546
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,360
is where you get a hero worship from in the

547
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,719
ancient Greek tradition, where the ruler would die and the

548
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,599
spirit would come back and the and haunt that village,

549
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,239
and the people would do rituals and sacrifices to appease

550
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,639
this this horribly upset demon because it no longer has

551
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:42,719
a body, and the same thing in Taoism they call

552
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,320
them vagabond ghost spirits.

553
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,679
Speaker 5: I was even just watching a documentary last night about

554
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,559
free speech and the free in the free press, and

555
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,440
somebody's name who came up, Peter Theo, I believe it is.

556
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,760
And he's a tech billionaire and he's even talking about

557
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,800
researching and a lot of people are now, but he's

558
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:11,719
one of the billionaires behind it about shooting up or

559
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:17,119
putting into themselves the blood of younger people or children

560
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,400
to stay alive and be and be more healthy and

561
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,639
almost feel at youth and stuff. And people are are

562
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,880
swearing are swearing by this. I know Joe Rogan even

563
00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:33,639
talks about it a little bit. Some of these millionaires

564
00:35:33,679 --> 00:35:36,519
who are like trying to have this longevity and it's

565
00:35:36,599 --> 00:35:39,840
having to deal with weird blood rituals.

566
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 4: You know, well, blood and blood rituals are all part

567
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:48,480
of the religion that grew up around the giants and

568
00:35:48,519 --> 00:35:56,400
the Nephalo, and after they lost their immortality and God

569
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:01,280
stepped in, they start to actually drink blood. It was

570
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:06,599
a common violation for the Nephilon and it's researches after

571
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,920
the flood with Nimrod, according to Freemasonry legends. And again

572
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,039
they're trying they're trying to do is with drinking of

573
00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:19,440
the blood, is extend their life because they believe the

574
00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:21,360
life is in the blood. And then we extend it

575
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:27,679
and also to give them better cognitive abilities. They believe

576
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,320
it does both. And these blood rituals and blood drinking

577
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,639
rituals didn't die out in the ancient past. They're still

578
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,559
part of what they do at the adept level and

579
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:40,760
the secret societies and the high level adepts of the

580
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,800
polytheist religions today.

581
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Speaker 5: What about stem cells? Where does that play into that?

582
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:50,840
Is that kind of crossing the line a little bit

583
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,639
too when it when it comes into this stuff.

584
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the stem cells allows you to more easily

585
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:03,159
manipulate DNA and genomes and things like that.

586
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 6: Right, So.

587
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 4: This is this is crossing over the threshold with what

588
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,559
they're doing with it into violating the laws of creation,

589
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:18,039
which is what essentially brought on the first apocalypse, And

590
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,440
so we're starting to repeat what was going on in

591
00:37:21,559 --> 00:37:24,280
the end time. And it's all about how do we

592
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:32,079
create immortality in this world? Right, not about this exactly,

593
00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:35,719
not about immortality in heaven, but in the physical realm, right.

594
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,400
And so whether or not it's it's being able to

595
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:45,239
do it through transhumanism or biotic parts or clones or

596
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:51,400
cloning body parts to replace ai AI, it's all about

597
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,480
that creating that demigod in the physical realm that was was,

598
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,880
you know, before the flood. And some people actually think

599
00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:04,559
that they're trying to actually create vessels ultimately for the

600
00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:06,920
demon spirits because they need a body, they need a

601
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,360
dwelling place for their spirit.

602
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 5: I've heard of that. Yeah, it's some interesting stuff. But

603
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,559
then it goes back to it goes back to because

604
00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:17,199
we didn't cover a lot of this, but we talked

605
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,599
about the children of the fallen angels when they came down.

606
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:28,280
Then when they died, those spirits are sent to roam

607
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,519
the earth to and fro and not finding rest, and

608
00:38:32,119 --> 00:38:35,159
they are tormenting men and women on the earth and

609
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,880
using our bodies as vessel when we yield to temptation

610
00:38:40,159 --> 00:38:42,159
and lust and things like that. The things that they

611
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,159
were into, and I think Enoch talks about that when

612
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:48,280
they have a body, when they have a host, that

613
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,559
they're able to sense what it is to love of

614
00:38:52,639 --> 00:38:56,199
again again, to you know, to make love, to commit murder,

615
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,960
to eat food and taste it when they have a host.

616
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,280
So there's info on that as well. These these disembodied

617
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,559
spirits riding on the back or leeching off of your

618
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,599
energy or something like that, of men and women.

619
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's been their goal from day one

620
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:20,880
since they've died, is how do we manipulate humankind in

621
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,480
conjunction with the fallen angels. But the demons are a

622
00:39:23,519 --> 00:39:27,440
big part of you know, the guls of gods of polytheism.

623
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,400
As to go through history, they seem to be very

624
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:36,679
much related or part of the Celestial Masters or the

625
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:44,440
White Brotherhood or Aliens or Guardian spirits, whoever they say

626
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,559
they want a channel to because the knowledge is coming

627
00:39:46,639 --> 00:39:50,760
from them to continue to make the advancements, and even

628
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,719
more in the last hundred years, I think more of

629
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,320
this channeling is going on and getting this information because

630
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,719
we're seeing technology advanced so quickly. Their interest to pass

631
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,840
on the nausese that they had before the flood to

632
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,440
humans to develop to hopefully in with their end game too,

633
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,559
you know, have a body to once again live in.

634
00:40:16,159 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 5: And there's so much stuff in Hollywood as far as

635
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,480
like we're talking about the occultism, like the deep Dark occultism,

636
00:40:24,519 --> 00:40:29,079
about the stuff they're they're writing in the scripts of

637
00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:34,039
these movies. They're plagiarizing the Book of Enoch, They're plagiarizing

638
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,239
some of these the stuff that I guess the majority

639
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,800
of the lay people have no idea exists. But when

640
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,880
we watch, for instance, one one was the uh the

641
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:49,719
Transformers movie Rise of the Fallen, where these spirits from

642
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,400
from outer space came and went to the depths of

643
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,719
the earth, of the Earth, into the bottom of the

644
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,719
sea and went to these robots or the which were

645
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,480
the angels in chains, and they broke loose out of

646
00:41:03,519 --> 00:41:06,599
the chains. They came out of caves and out of crevices,

647
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,840
and they came back to rule and reign. And it's

648
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,400
called the Rise of the Fallen, and it's just like

649
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,159
they put it out there blatantly, But for me, that's

650
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,840
like plagiarism straight from the Book of Enoch.

651
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,639
Speaker 4: Well, and whether or not it's the Book of Enoch

652
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,719
or other accounts of religions and mythologies around the world,

653
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,320
they tell that same type of story over and over

654
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,519
and over and over and over. For your audience, understand

655
00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:34,920
that when they're seeing all of these superhero movies today,

656
00:41:36,119 --> 00:41:41,559
this is a reflection of the nephilum of the ancient times,

657
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,639
and hero was understood differently in the ancient times than

658
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,760
it is today. It was understood as the offspring of

659
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,519
God's and human female to create a demigod, Heroes of renown,

660
00:41:54,199 --> 00:41:57,639
Heroes of renown absolutely, or the mighty ones of old.

661
00:41:59,159 --> 00:42:01,519
These were there reflections of it and you can see it.

662
00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:05,800
The best analogy I can give you for them doing

663
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:10,679
this is probably the most famous superhero, which is Superman. Yeah, right,

664
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:17,199
So he is obviously a superhuman being with superpowers, and

665
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:23,320
he has this almost pyramid like sort of emblem that

666
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,639
you have this ass that looks like a snake on it,

667
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,599
and he comes from the House of L and L

668
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,360
is a god and he is the son of L

669
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:38,320
and he is basically, you know, a nephilum in a

670
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,400
cartoon sort of character, right, And all of those characters

671
00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:49,199
that are developed from the superheroes of the ancient epoch.

672
00:42:50,039 --> 00:42:54,679
This is just going on continually in all kinds of

673
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,400
entertainment that they continually tell us about their history, the religion,

674
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,559
and their genealogies encoded into all of this entertainment.

675
00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 5: The Epic of Gigames was another big one that's just

676
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,800
telling the stories of possibly a fallen angel and an

677
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:17,480
actual burial site where they found recently. The Epic of

678
00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:20,800
Gigamess is kind of along the same lines. I wanted

679
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,639
to ask you to see if you've done any research

680
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,920
on this. But there's a prophecy, and I remember when

681
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,519
when we first heard about this, I was blown away.

682
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,559
But there's a prophecy in the Book of Enoch that

683
00:43:31,679 --> 00:43:34,960
says that two hundred generations after the flood. Are you

684
00:43:35,039 --> 00:43:38,719
familiar with that, that two hundred generations after the flood,

685
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:43,119
that these spirits would be loose to judge mankind into

686
00:43:43,639 --> 00:43:46,039
to do torments on the earth. And I know they

687
00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:49,920
did the breakdown on the year that was two hundred

688
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,199
and I think they two hundred generations and I think

689
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,400
it was eighty years, around eighty years or so, and

690
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,320
it was right at twenty twelve. Are from you with

691
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:01,159
that prophecy at all?

692
00:44:02,039 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 4: I'm familiar with that prophecy. Again, I take anything that's

693
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,840
outside the Bible with a grain of salt, and I

694
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,000
measure everything against what the Bible says.

695
00:44:11,079 --> 00:44:13,119
Speaker 5: You definitely can't go out there with a date hell

696
00:44:13,159 --> 00:44:13,800
and a date.

697
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I think at all it does

698
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,320
is sort of zeros into what I said earlier that

699
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,400
you know, we're not in the end time yet, but

700
00:44:22,519 --> 00:44:25,360
we're certainly very close. We may be sitting on the

701
00:44:25,519 --> 00:44:28,960
edge of it the way things are going. But until

702
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,039
the restrainer is removed, it's going to move, you know,

703
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,400
at a very very sort of set pace, I think. So, uh,

704
00:44:37,039 --> 00:44:38,599
you know, so do I think there is a there

705
00:44:38,679 --> 00:44:40,599
is a set time. I think there is a set time.

706
00:44:40,679 --> 00:44:42,880
I just don't know whether or not that is accurate

707
00:44:43,079 --> 00:44:45,239
in Enoch or not, because all you have to do

708
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,280
is be out twenty years and you're going to be yeah,

709
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:49,760
in trouble, right.

710
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,599
Speaker 5: So even one year, Yeah, it's got to be right on.

711
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,599
You definitely can't go with it with a date on that.

712
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,880
But it's very very interesting, very interesting. And to see

713
00:45:00,159 --> 00:45:02,800
what's going on on the Earth Earth now and to

714
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,760
see all of it coming out of Hollywood. Man, it's

715
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,280
just blatantly putting stuff out there that would have never

716
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,760
passed thirty years ago and stuff that's passing, and what's

717
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,039
going on in Hollywood itself. Man. And there's some really

718
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,840
there's I know, I said Transformers, but there's tons of

719
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,000
movies out there that are talking about these these spirits

720
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:28,679
and these entities and having hosts and bodies and they're

721
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,880
just retelling those stories. So do you think is this

722
00:45:33,119 --> 00:45:36,840
God is this just how it's just playing out naturally,

723
00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:39,559
Like this is just these stories that are recycled, or

724
00:45:40,159 --> 00:45:44,039
do the people in Hollywood know something that we don't

725
00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:45,840
and they're just letting little pieces through.

726
00:45:46,639 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 4: I think they are working in all aspects, whether it's education, media, entertainment,

727
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:59,519
whether or not it's literature, movies, television. They're preparing us

728
00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:03,400
to accept what they're going to tell us and trying

729
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,519
to sieve us with in a very short period of

730
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:08,360
time so that they'll go back and say, hey, we

731
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,800
told you in advance, like this should not be a surprise.

732
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,519
It all makes sense. They're preparing us to accept the

733
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:19,320
great delusion. And I think it's a brainwashing propaganda thing

734
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,039
that is going on that will only intensify as we

735
00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:25,119
get closer to the end. Time.

736
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it almost passes by. I know a lot

737
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,440
of people kind of run into this when they do

738
00:46:30,559 --> 00:46:33,039
their research and then they start seeing it in the movies,

739
00:46:33,559 --> 00:46:36,719
and then they start talking about it, and people are like, oh,

740
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,760
you just got that from a movie. You watch too

741
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,159
many movies, and they can kind of pinpoint the movies

742
00:46:41,639 --> 00:46:45,159
that go inside with your philosophy because it's all out there,

743
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,280
you know, So it's almost a way of just watering

744
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,760
it down. Like you said, you know that you came

745
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,800
up with Are you read it in an ancient manuscript? No,

746
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,559
you've just seen it on television, you know.

747
00:46:56,199 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, so, And it doesn't matter whether or not audits.

748
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,559
In science fiction, we get through religion and we get

749
00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:03,000
the alien deception that's going to be coming at us.

750
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,199
If it's in fairy tales, that's preparation for the kids,

751
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:11,400
and it's encoded with the allegories of the matriarchal bloodline

752
00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:17,920
and the classifications of different fairies, so it can be

753
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:23,159
in other sort of genre like the vampires. Again, the

754
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,440
vampire whole thing is just another allegory talking about the

755
00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:31,599
genealogy and the imagery of the Nephilum, and the genealogy

756
00:47:31,679 --> 00:47:34,360
is coming down everything from the drinking of blood to

757
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:42,360
the cobra fangs on a person called Dracula, which is

758
00:47:42,639 --> 00:47:46,559
son of a dragon in the imagery, and they drink

759
00:47:46,639 --> 00:47:51,400
blood for immortality and cognitive abilities. He's based on Glad

760
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,360
the Impaler and Nephilim who had pale skin, hazel eyes,

761
00:47:55,599 --> 00:47:57,599
red hair as one of the different colors. I mean

762
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,280
just sort of goes on and on and on bore

763
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,639
the whole audience with all of the allegories and couded

764
00:48:02,679 --> 00:48:06,039
into the Dracula tales. But I understand, you know it

765
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,880
is that is the side that is against Christianity.

766
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 5: M hmm.

767
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 4: And that's the ultimate thing that they're telling you.

768
00:48:13,519 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's that's. Somebody said it recently in a

769
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:25,559
couple of people. It's talking about Hollywood and the the

770
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,280
right lost in in in that in that realm, and

771
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:33,199
so it's like it's mostly godless people. There are people

772
00:48:33,199 --> 00:48:35,960
who are anti God or just pro pro left and

773
00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:38,599
just every everything like super far left, not just in

774
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:43,199
political views, but the super leftist agenda. And and we

775
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,079
talk about the funding. And when somebody comes out as

776
00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:50,320
a Christian in the media, they're heckled, that made fun of.

777
00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:53,079
They try to dig up dirt on them about their

778
00:48:53,119 --> 00:48:56,039
past or things that they they've done wrong in the throat,

779
00:48:56,079 --> 00:48:58,079
in the in their face. And if you if you

780
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,599
just say and in the time that we're living in

781
00:49:00,679 --> 00:49:03,079
that you believe in Jesus, you laughed at you know,

782
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,880
even in Hollywood, and you lose roles, all kinds of

783
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,840
weird stuff goes on. You know, we see happening but

784
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,119
I want to go ahead and jump to the phone lines.

785
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:14,480
I got some more questions I want to ask you.

786
00:49:14,559 --> 00:49:16,000
But we do have a caller here. I'm going to

787
00:49:16,039 --> 00:49:19,559
take this call here in South Alabama. Caller on air

788
00:49:19,559 --> 00:49:20,199
who we speaking with?

789
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,639
Speaker 6: Hey Derek Kenny, Hey man, you are.

790
00:49:25,559 --> 00:49:26,639
Speaker 5: Called into a good show.

791
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 4: Brother.

792
00:49:27,039 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 5: You got a question for Gary?

793
00:49:31,199 --> 00:49:37,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I got a few. Actually, I'm not surprised.

794
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,639
I've I've been doing a lot of research into the

795
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:50,599
same kind of thing, and it's led me in a

796
00:49:50,639 --> 00:49:56,840
lot of different directions. I used to believe that the dinosaurs,

797
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:02,360
especially the flesh eating ones, were probably part of the

798
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,079
nasalum or whatever, but I kind of went away from

799
00:50:05,159 --> 00:50:11,320
that now because I've also seen things like there's a

800
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:17,199
swamp in the Congo or along the Congo River that

801
00:50:17,519 --> 00:50:20,920
locals say that there is broader sources that live there.

802
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,639
They're just not nearly as big as they were before

803
00:50:23,679 --> 00:50:28,239
the flood, So, I mean, you know, little legends like that.

804
00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:33,880
And then also, tarodactyls have been cited in this century

805
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,719
on every content, just not very many of them anymore,

806
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,199
and they're a lot smaller than they used to be.

807
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:45,559
So I just I mean, I've come to the conclusion

808
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:51,559
that mostly all the fossils that you find everything that

809
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,960
was all pre flood. So like the world is different

810
00:50:55,039 --> 00:51:01,440
back then, right, So who's to say, especially with reptiles.

811
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,840
Reptiles keep growing their whole life. So what if those

812
00:51:05,079 --> 00:51:09,719
are a thousand year old dinosaurs, like you know, because

813
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:15,760
they were the first thing created and they just fled

814
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,119
to what killed them. Nothing else was a threat to them,

815
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,599
And you know, that's just part of Guy's creation that's

816
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,239
gone extinct over the years. And I wonder what you

817
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:25,800
thought about that.

818
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of those things that I think when

819
00:51:29,119 --> 00:51:31,679
people start digging into this aspect of it, you end

820
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,199
up going back and forth on how does that sort

821
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:38,199
of fit? And there's you know, to me, it's it's

822
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,920
it could could be either or I'm opened. I'm open

823
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:48,079
to both. And so when I look at you know,

824
00:51:48,199 --> 00:51:52,519
what science is telling us, A, I don't trust science

825
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,800
because I know you know that you know, modern science

826
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,480
was created by the Royal Society, which was created by

827
00:52:02,519 --> 00:52:08,159
Freemasons and Rosicrucians, and their whole ideology is as the

828
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,079
same as it was in the anti Luvine epoch, just

829
00:52:11,159 --> 00:52:15,320
to lead people away from God, not give god credit

830
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,719
for anything and to honor their own pantheon of gods.

831
00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:23,800
So you can't trust anything that they say. And I'm

832
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,239
not even sure there is one complete set of dinosaur,

833
00:52:28,079 --> 00:52:31,519
one complete skeleton of dinosaur in the whole world. I

834
00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:34,239
think they're taking pieces and they kind of add lib

835
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,000
as to what they think they may look like. So

836
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,239
we don't know for sure whether or not they were

837
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:43,039
as big or as many as as what they what

838
00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:47,039
they're saying possible. I leave myself open to that. But

839
00:52:47,199 --> 00:52:49,880
when they they they lived, they it could have been,

840
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,320
you know, just before the flutter, could have been back

841
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,880
into antiquity, because again you can look at Genesis one

842
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:02,400
one and one two and translate that out of Hebrew

843
00:53:02,559 --> 00:53:05,920
that the earth became void and that the earth was renewed,

844
00:53:06,039 --> 00:53:08,519
just as Psalms one four thirty says, when God sends

845
00:53:08,599 --> 00:53:11,719
the spirit, the earth is renewed. So there's a possibility

846
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,599
that dinosaurs live in and the rebellion is what caused

847
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,880
the destruction of the world, and then you have the

848
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,360
renewal of the earth. I think some people will call

849
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,199
it the gap through I have a complete blowli blow

850
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,960
on that if somebody wants it it's not constitutive to

851
00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:29,639
my faith, but I leave that open as a possibility,

852
00:53:30,519 --> 00:53:32,800
and certainly the angelic rebellion for me fits a little

853
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,760
bit better there, but again it's not constitutive. And yet

854
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,519
I also know that with everything that's going on with

855
00:53:38,679 --> 00:53:40,920
science and how they're trying to deceive us for their

856
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,000
own agenda, is it could just be just pre flood

857
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:48,480
animals and they may not be quite as big or

858
00:53:48,599 --> 00:53:51,760
quite as numerous as what people would lead us to

859
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:52,559
believe are as old.

860
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,079
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, they might also not have had the same

861
00:53:58,159 --> 00:54:00,239
diet that we think they do of.

862
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:01,199
Speaker 7: A songbeat, so.

863
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, who knows, right.

864
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:12,559
Speaker 6: I've also seen where one guy compared a kangaroo skeleton

865
00:54:12,679 --> 00:54:15,880
to a t rex skeleton, and they are remarkably similar,

866
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,199
so we we might just not even know what they

867
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,280
look like. So maybe that was just a giant kangaroo

868
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,280
And I can't imagine one of those chasing after me.

869
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we're just we're just now having them come

870
00:54:27,199 --> 00:54:29,480
around with the idea that you know, some of these

871
00:54:29,559 --> 00:54:33,079
animals actually had feathers on them, right, they just weren't

872
00:54:33,119 --> 00:54:37,559
totally sort of reptilians, So yeah, they really they're guessing,

873
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:38,679
and we don't even.

874
00:54:38,519 --> 00:54:42,599
Speaker 6: Know what then would look like after four thousand years.

875
00:54:42,639 --> 00:54:45,159
Maybe they were mammals and it just looks like a

876
00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:47,199
reptile now because it's so degraded.

877
00:54:47,639 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly possible.

878
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 5: There's a weird Chris, there's weird friend friends Christian groups

879
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,239
out there that believe that the whole dinosaur thing is

880
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,440
a hoax, like that they never existed, and there's people

881
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,199
who will fight you on it. I think it's a hoax.

882
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,480
Have you ran into any of those people, gay heard them?

883
00:55:07,559 --> 00:55:10,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's that's quite a common view that

884
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:14,519
the then, certainly within the Christian movement that I'm part of,

885
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,639
is that it is a hoax. I'm not I'm not

886
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:23,199
quite there that it is. But again I don't I

887
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:30,039
don't consider that anything is out of the possibility. When

888
00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:32,679
it talks about how they're going to deceive us for

889
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,280
the end time, I mean we're talking about the greatest

890
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,239
deceptions ever, So this could be part of it. There's

891
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,320
just what you want to be is is uh not

892
00:55:43,559 --> 00:55:46,199
too dogmatic and you want to be able to discern

893
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,800
the information as you go through and again as long

894
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,199
as it doesn't you know upset what what the Bible says,

895
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:55,800
then I'm fine with it.

896
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,679
Speaker 5: I'm with you on that. I'm not. I mean so

897
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,239
like in all my studying, because I've studied like the

898
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,400
secret societies and all that stuff and just blown away like,

899
00:56:05,519 --> 00:56:08,079
oh my god, do you know they have this in order?

900
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,400
Oh man, they're passing this. Do you know so and

901
00:56:10,519 --> 00:56:12,599
so did that? And it finally got to a place

902
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,480
is like, Okay, that stuff doesn't move me anymore. There's

903
00:56:15,519 --> 00:56:17,800
nothing you can tell me that's going to make me like,

904
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,000
oh really like anything you could tell I understand the

905
00:56:21,159 --> 00:56:23,519
spirit behind it and what they're doing. They're trying to

906
00:56:23,599 --> 00:56:26,760
live forever. They're like drinking blood and putting other people's

907
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:32,760
blood in their bodies, not because like they needed infusion,

908
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,719
but they're doing it to feel better and feel younger

909
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,880
and maybe live forever. Just weird stuff that's going on.

910
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,000
And it really does get weird when you start looking

911
00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:46,239
into the transhumanism and everything that they're doing with that.

912
00:56:46,519 --> 00:56:49,159
So nothing blows my mind with that. So if it

913
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,000
came out to be a fact that hey, the government

914
00:56:51,079 --> 00:56:53,880
admitted dinosaurs never existed, it was a hoax that they

915
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,079
did to push an agenda or somebody started it as

916
00:56:57,079 --> 00:57:00,000
a joke and they never stopped it. Like it wouldn't

917
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:03,559
blow my mind. I wouldn't, you know, just because everything

918
00:57:03,639 --> 00:57:06,480
that I've seen up to this point is there's just

919
00:57:06,559 --> 00:57:09,559
so much that ties into what you're talking about in

920
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,159
Hollywood and the left and all of these agendas and

921
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:18,840
the whole desensitization that goes on through film and theater

922
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,280
and stuff like that. Man, it's crazy. So did you

923
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:23,639
have another question for Gary brother?

924
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:31,039
Speaker 6: Yeah, since we were talking about the genes Flicinger, what

925
00:57:31,159 --> 00:57:34,480
they're trying to do these days and trying to like

926
00:57:34,559 --> 00:57:39,559
you're saying, transhumanize our DNA and excement with like so

927
00:57:39,639 --> 00:57:49,760
we have better sight or you know whatever. People mentioned

928
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,840
that that might have been what they were doing before

929
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:58,840
the flood anyway, that caused the corruption of all flesh,

930
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,440
because of all flesh would be you know, off lge,

931
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:06,960
so animals and man kind of like and maybe just

932
00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:08,880
like in the days of Noice, is it going to

933
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,400
be in our days? And I think we might be

934
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,159
starting to see some hate.

935
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,159
Speaker 4: What we thought about that. Yeah, And there's such a

936
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:22,280
host of creatures that are in other religions and mythologies

937
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,000
around the world that were somehow created, whether or not

938
00:58:25,199 --> 00:58:28,719
it's the centaur being which is half human half horse,

939
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:33,280
or it's Pegasus, right, it just Chimera and just on

940
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,199
and on and on and on and all all of

941
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:40,079
these different creatures. Something was going on there, either you know,

942
00:58:40,199 --> 00:58:42,559
sex was going on to create them, or they were

943
00:58:42,639 --> 00:58:47,239
doing some you know, gene manipulation to create this. And again,

944
00:58:47,679 --> 00:58:50,280
when we understand that all of the earth was corrupt,

945
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,159
then you understand that we had spread right throughout the

946
00:58:54,199 --> 00:58:56,760
whole animal kingdom and probably the plant kingdom. And it

947
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:01,519
also maybe perhaps gives more meaning to God called the

948
00:59:01,679 --> 00:59:04,000
animals to the art because he knew the ones that

949
00:59:04,159 --> 00:59:10,199
were still pure and weren't corrupted, Yeah, right, and took

950
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,039
you know. Uh. And most people say, well, I don't

951
00:59:13,039 --> 00:59:14,760
believe in the art because you couldn't get all the

952
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,480
different kinds of animals on the arc. Well they miss

953
00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:23,320
understand what's being said. They're kind In the Bible is

954
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:27,719
used in the application as in species, so representative species

955
00:59:28,119 --> 00:59:31,360
two of each for unclean and seven of each for

956
00:59:32,239 --> 00:59:35,840
clean animals were taken. So not all the animals were taken,

957
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:40,920
just representative species to repopulate afterwards, and ones that weren't

958
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,800
corrupted with whatever was going on in the anti do

959
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,639
with un Epoch, whether or not it was DNA manipulation

960
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:47,159
or whatever.

961
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:53,239
Speaker 5: Mm hmm. Yeah, Hey, Kenny, Hey care bro. Thanks for calling. Man,

962
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,840
I'm gonna put you on hold. I'll bring you back

963
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,559
here on in a minute. Okay, all right, all right, brother,

964
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:00,519
it's a good b right there.

965
01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:00,719
Speaker 4: Man.

966
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 5: Wanted to ask you too. This is something I don't

967
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,079
know if you've seen this, but and I may lose

968
01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:10,000
a bunch of fans after I admit this, but I

969
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,559
will admit it because it's who I am. I'm a

970
01:00:12,599 --> 01:00:15,800
big fan of Benny Hen. I'm a big Benny Hen fan.

971
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,719
And some people make fun of me and quote why

972
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,840
why why? But I'm a big fan of Benny Hen,

973
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,719
especially his early work. Put it that way, Benny Hen

974
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,039
knows some stuff. I'll say that.

975
01:00:27,679 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 4: He was on.

976
01:00:31,159 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 5: This is Your Day or whatever with what's his name,

977
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,840
Paul Crouch before he passed, and it was a late

978
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,519
night show and I'm laying in bed and I just

979
01:00:41,599 --> 01:00:45,119
have it on. I appreciate Benny Hen and he starts

980
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:49,400
talking about angels and demons and he's answering some questions

981
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,039
and stuff, and he's talking about some brochures that he's

982
01:00:52,079 --> 01:00:54,719
put together and some teachings and stuff, and he starts

983
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,599
talking about these angels and he's given them this extra

984
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:02,559
knowledge about these angels. In the audience, their eyes are

985
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:06,960
wide open. Even Paul Croucher's like, Bennie, I've never heard this.

986
01:01:07,159 --> 01:01:10,280
I've been a Christian serving the Lord for seventy years.

987
01:01:10,679 --> 01:01:14,199
I've never heard this information. Oh yes, brother, these angels

988
01:01:14,599 --> 01:01:16,920
they you know, the fallen angels and the demon spirits,

989
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,360
and they get on you. And it says that here.

990
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,239
And then he goes back and he starts quoting the

991
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:25,519
Book of Noch. So he's on TBN dropping all of

992
01:01:25,679 --> 01:01:28,880
this wisdom from the Book of Enoch, and everybody's jaws

993
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,719
are dropped. They've never heard it, and they trust it

994
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,320
if it comes from from somebody of that stature, right,

995
01:01:34,679 --> 01:01:37,599
they trust that if I come out and start talking

996
01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:40,360
about the Book of Enoch and maybe another scenario. But

997
01:01:40,639 --> 01:01:42,960
when he said it, it was like an authority figure.

998
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:47,440
And even see to see Paul Croucher's face, Benny, Benny,

999
01:01:47,679 --> 01:01:50,119
I'm just a loss of words. You have to come back.

1000
01:01:50,159 --> 01:01:53,000
And he was just so blown away. But I was

1001
01:01:53,039 --> 01:01:54,400
in bed and I looked over at the TV. I

1002
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,119
was like, okay, okay, Benny, I feel you dropping some

1003
01:01:57,199 --> 01:01:58,920
knowledge on the Book of Enoch on there on all

1004
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,119
the people. There's just fun to see it coming out

1005
01:02:01,159 --> 01:02:04,440
in the light. You didn't see that by any chance

1006
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,960
to Yeah, that's pretty pretty interesting. But I wanted to

1007
01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:09,800
ask you just before we go here for a minute,

1008
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:12,880
I want to give a shout out to Alonzo Pichardo.

1009
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,079
He's a friend of mine who sent me your work

1010
01:02:16,159 --> 01:02:19,440
and he works with with Freeman Freeman TV. He works

1011
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,800
with Freeman a lot, so he sent me. He definitely

1012
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,800
name dropped you a bunch of times about having you

1013
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,000
on as a guest and for me to look into

1014
01:02:27,079 --> 01:02:29,760
your work. So thank you Alonza Pachardo for doing that.

1015
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,760
And then there was a podcast and this was out

1016
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,920
of the blue, so Alonzo mentions your name and then

1017
01:02:37,159 --> 01:02:39,039
as a podcast that I listened to called the Bad

1018
01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:43,039
Christian Podcast, and I download an episode and you're on

1019
01:02:43,199 --> 01:02:45,719
as a guest. And you know, I kind of like

1020
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,679
those guys. I don't know how you got on there,

1021
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,199
how if they reached out to you, because I know

1022
01:02:51,719 --> 01:02:54,199
some of them are into some conspiracies and and things

1023
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,800
like that. I don't know how that happened, but I

1024
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,280
was listening and I was kind of upset because I

1025
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,800
heard Matt car Harder just trying to like, they have

1026
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:03,480
you on as a guest, and then they're trying to

1027
01:03:03,559 --> 01:03:07,039
like disprove everything you're saying or doing the whole No, no,

1028
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,840
that's not true. Now I don't believe it. As you're

1029
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:11,920
sharing as a guest, talk a little bit about your

1030
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,480
appearance on that show, because I'm I'm you know, I'm

1031
01:03:14,679 --> 01:03:16,519
I'm fans of those guys. But it was just kind

1032
01:03:16,559 --> 01:03:19,639
of awkward to hear that conversation kind of take those

1033
01:03:19,719 --> 01:03:21,760
little jabs and turns and stuff.

1034
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was rather interesting. They had reached out to

1035
01:03:24,719 --> 01:03:27,480
me to come on, and what they wanted to do

1036
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:31,199
was have myself and somebody else that they would have

1037
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,000
there and the two of us would debate two of

1038
01:03:34,079 --> 01:03:38,000
them about giants, and as it turned out, it was

1039
01:03:38,119 --> 01:03:41,719
you know, went against two. But it was rather odd

1040
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:46,480
that we're debating giants and they're disputing what scripture says. Yeah,

1041
01:03:46,639 --> 01:03:50,719
I mean there and it was absolutely kind of bizarre. So,

1042
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:52,800
I mean, all you can do is is just continue

1043
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,360
to say, well, that's not what it says, here's what

1044
01:03:55,599 --> 01:03:58,920
it says, you know, verbatim, and you can choose to

1045
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,079
believe it or not, but that's what it says. And

1046
01:04:02,519 --> 01:04:04,800
so you know, they and if you got into something

1047
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,519
that they and they were talking about, Walt, do you

1048
01:04:06,639 --> 01:04:08,559
have any proof of any giants? So you start talking

1049
01:04:08,599 --> 01:04:11,559
about but yeah, then they then they shut you down

1050
01:04:11,639 --> 01:04:14,159
because they know you're armed with whether or not as

1051
01:04:14,239 --> 01:04:18,400
recent or ancient, and they don't want to hear that either.

1052
01:04:18,639 --> 01:04:22,280
So I think I think what happened was is they

1053
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,320
were surprised that I could argue or I could present

1054
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:30,400
the information against what they thought they would probably just

1055
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,840
shoot me down, I suppose, because it seemed like a

1056
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:37,559
rather interesting sort of setup for the debate. So it

1057
01:04:37,679 --> 01:04:38,800
kind of wasn't really a debate.

1058
01:04:39,159 --> 01:04:41,159
Speaker 5: But it wasn't supposed to be a debate when you

1059
01:04:41,239 --> 01:04:42,800
went on though, right, it was just kind of the

1060
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:44,039
show you info and stuff.

1061
01:04:44,079 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 4: Well it was, but it was to be. But there

1062
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:47,679
was supposed to be two on each side.

1063
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 5: Oh really, so they wanted to kind of have a

1064
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,559
back and forth about pro Yeah, okay, so.

1065
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,239
Speaker 4: But what I wasn't prepared for that they weren't as

1066
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:59,440
familiar with the Bible as I would have thought. So

1067
01:04:59,639 --> 01:05:02,519
it's hard to have that conversation with somebody arguing for

1068
01:05:02,679 --> 01:05:05,480
the Christian who doesn't know that things are in the

1069
01:05:05,559 --> 01:05:06,719
Bible or what it says.

1070
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's so awesome. But I was like, he's

1071
01:05:10,519 --> 01:05:12,400
talking about Gary Wayne. I was like, Hey, Gary Wayne's

1072
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,960
on this episode. I'm definitely gonna listen, and I was.

1073
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:16,760
It was getting good. Then at the end it got

1074
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:18,280
kind of weird. I was like, Oh, why are they

1075
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,159
doing that. It's like, I get a lot of guests

1076
01:05:21,239 --> 01:05:24,440
on here, and I don't agree with everything people say,

1077
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,360
and I let them speak on the on the platform

1078
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,039
and stuff, and some people in the chat room section

1079
01:05:30,159 --> 01:05:33,440
over here, they're just like correct him, correct him, debate him.

1080
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,039
I'm like, I'm not asking the guests to come on

1081
01:05:36,199 --> 01:05:38,199
here try and debate him and prove him wrong and

1082
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,719
and get into like a shouting match which happens and

1083
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,199
contingent and get this shaking and all that kind of stuff.

1084
01:05:45,199 --> 01:05:47,880
I'm here because I've studied enough of what you bring

1085
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,000
to the table that there's some things that we can

1086
01:05:50,079 --> 01:05:53,360
build upon to share versus Like, you know what you

1087
01:05:53,519 --> 01:05:55,719
believe this and I don't think it's right, Like, it's

1088
01:05:56,039 --> 01:05:58,440
isn't that weird to kind of go on an episode

1089
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,760
of somebody show and do that as a guest, you.

1090
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 4: Know, Yeah, Well, I don't mind having a discussion on

1091
01:06:05,679 --> 01:06:08,199
different points of view because nobody is ever going to

1092
01:06:08,199 --> 01:06:11,400
agree with anybody one hundred percent of the time. Uh

1093
01:06:11,719 --> 01:06:14,440
So I think it's fair ball. And I think I

1094
01:06:14,519 --> 01:06:19,559
should be able to come prepared to defend my perspectives

1095
01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:21,599
on things, and I do. I'll back it up scriptually

1096
01:06:22,079 --> 01:06:25,280
all of the time. I also use outside sources, but

1097
01:06:25,559 --> 01:06:29,039
I measure everything in terms of what I wrote in

1098
01:06:29,079 --> 01:06:31,239
my book against what it says in the Bible. And

1099
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:35,320
I think it's important that you come prepared to be

1100
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:39,159
able to discuss about these things. That was a little

1101
01:06:39,239 --> 01:06:41,679
more than I would have anticipated. But what was really

1102
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,679
nice was is how many people got ahold of me

1103
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,320
afterwards and said it was so refreshing to see somebody

1104
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:49,320
defend the Bible.

1105
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 5: There you go, there you go. Because they're kind of

1106
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,599
all over the place on that show here, here, a little, there,

1107
01:06:55,599 --> 01:06:57,639
a little, but at least they're open about it though,

1108
01:06:57,679 --> 01:07:00,559
and they're open about, you know, actually discussing that, and

1109
01:07:00,679 --> 01:07:03,079
that's needed too. That's why the show is doing so well,

1110
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,519
it's because they're open about it about Hey, I have

1111
01:07:05,679 --> 01:07:08,280
some questions about my own spirituality, in my own faith

1112
01:07:08,519 --> 01:07:10,920
and what the Bible means. So they're they're they're like

1113
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:15,880
really flourishing right now because they're open. So kudos to

1114
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,480
those guys the Bad Christian Podcast. I wanted I wanted

1115
01:07:19,519 --> 01:07:23,559
to ask you as well about some of the other

1116
01:07:23,639 --> 01:07:29,519
books that are mentioned, because they because they piqued my

1117
01:07:29,639 --> 01:07:31,360
interest and I think and there's a lot of them

1118
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,760
we can't find. But like you were saying, the Old

1119
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,360
Testament is built upon a lot of other books, and

1120
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,719
and they start quoting these other prophets who we never

1121
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,440
heard of in the Old Testament, Shemaya the prophet have

1122
01:07:43,559 --> 01:07:44,719
you are you? Have you heard of that?

1123
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 4: No, I'm not familiar with I know.

1124
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 5: That's the thing. It's like quote, they quote it, but

1125
01:07:51,039 --> 01:07:53,199
I don't think you can find it anywhere. Just like

1126
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,079
the Book of enoch As, it is written in the

1127
01:07:55,119 --> 01:07:57,320
Book of enoch As, it is written in the Book

1128
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,480
of Joshure. If you do, if you just do a

1129
01:07:59,559 --> 01:08:03,119
word study on this, like pull up the Strongs concordinance

1130
01:08:03,199 --> 01:08:05,880
with the eat sword, I'm sure you're familiar with that program.

1131
01:08:06,159 --> 01:08:08,880
And there's a bunch like it, but as it is

1132
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,400
written or in the Book of and then there's all

1133
01:08:12,559 --> 01:08:15,079
these scriptures that come up. There's one called there's one

1134
01:08:15,119 --> 01:08:18,479
called the Prophet. Have you heard of that? No, this

1135
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,640
Book of the Prophet? And and there and uh, there'll

1136
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,199
just be a quote now hold on and like so

1137
01:08:24,359 --> 01:08:26,119
me the way my mind works, and like, hold on,

1138
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,600
who is Shamaia the Prophet? And where's this book?

1139
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 4: You know?

1140
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 5: And just little stuff like that. And there's so many

1141
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,039
of them mentioned, but there's some of them that we

1142
01:08:35,239 --> 01:08:38,640
can find or something close, like the Book of Josher,

1143
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,119
the Book of Giants, the Book of Jubilees, Adam and Eve.

1144
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,199
When it gets into some of the gnostic stuff like that.

1145
01:08:45,399 --> 01:08:48,319
I don't really vouch for much of that. I just

1146
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:50,760
I don't feel like it lines up. I feel like

1147
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:54,279
it's like put I can feel when I read that

1148
01:08:54,359 --> 01:08:57,199
that it was put here to throw people off, like

1149
01:08:57,319 --> 01:08:59,439
it's something new. They're trying to word it to sound

1150
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,640
like old English, you know, and things like that. But

1151
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,000
what are some of the other books that are mentioned

1152
01:09:05,039 --> 01:09:07,279
of in the Bible or kind of go hand in hand.

1153
01:09:07,399 --> 01:09:10,439
A big one for me was the Testament of Solomon,

1154
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,640
and I think that kind of fits in a lot

1155
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,760
when it's talking about the demons and understanding the spirit

1156
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:17,960
realm and how it operates. Was there any more books

1157
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,119
that are mentioned of in the Scriptures that that kind

1158
01:09:21,159 --> 01:09:22,720
of kind of stuck out to you that you go.

1159
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 4: To, Well, there's a lot of them out there. Trouble is,

1160
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:32,760
they're mostly Gnostic scriptures and Dead Sea Scroll scriptures, and

1161
01:09:33,399 --> 01:09:37,039
they're come out either, but they're all Gnostics. So and

1162
01:09:37,119 --> 01:09:40,960
there's certain aspects that is good for context. And I've

1163
01:09:41,039 --> 01:09:44,640
read most of those Gospels and some of the lines

1164
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:48,199
up really really nice, but you know, the other seventy

1165
01:09:48,239 --> 01:09:53,039
five percent eighty percent is just all wrong, just to

1166
01:09:53,119 --> 01:09:56,159
put it nicely. So, and I think if you're going

1167
01:09:56,239 --> 01:10:01,640
to read explore a lot of these different apocryphal books,

1168
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:06,520
to put it in the most euphimistic manner, you better

1169
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:11,199
be very very centered in in scripture yourself and in

1170
01:10:11,279 --> 01:10:14,800
your faith because it can it could have a have

1171
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:19,159
a an effect that you weren't expecting. So but I

1172
01:10:19,319 --> 01:10:21,920
you know, again, all of those I haven't really found

1173
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,079
anything other than the Book of Enoch that runs very

1174
01:10:25,199 --> 01:10:27,960
very close to the Bible and it has some corruptions,

1175
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,960
as I say, and as you say, uh, and I

1176
01:10:31,039 --> 01:10:32,880
put out posts on the Book of Yasher, in the

1177
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,039
Book of Jubilees and other ones, and they're just they

1178
01:10:36,079 --> 01:10:39,479
are they are counter they are counter biblical, there's no

1179
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doubt about it.

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Speaker 5: What about the Testament of Solomon, have you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm okay with that one. But again I don't

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I will I don't generally quote out of the Testament

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01:10:49,159 --> 01:10:52,640
of Solomon because I don't know it's it's it's true source.

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Because you have to understand that that Solomon is a

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considered a magi in secret society. Yeah, he is one

1186
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:06,680
of their significant patriarchs and some of those magicians, black magicians,

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some of.

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Speaker 5: The Keys of Solomon. Definitely don't don't mix those books up. Guys,

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we're talking about the Testament of Solom. There's the Testament

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of Solomon. I think, there's the Book of Solomon, which

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is in the u which is in the Apocrypha, and

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then they're the Keys of Solomon. The Kings of Solomon's

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01:11:22,399 --> 01:11:25,840
totally uh into like crazy crazy stuff. So don't mix that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And in the the Apocrypha that was in the

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original King James and as part of the Catholic Bible today.

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I don't have a problem with those scriptures. Yeah, but

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there's so many other ones out there, and there's more

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seemingly coming to the surface all of the time.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, you see where like you're saying, be careful,

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like beef b be definitely definitely be grounded in the

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word and in the scriptures that we do have the

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sixty six before you kind of venture out. Definitely definitely

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do that. You know, we talk about these books, we

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kind of we kind of weave them, we quote him

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01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,279
here and there, but definitely be grounded before you try

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to venture outside to something else, to kind of have

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that foundation of what already exists in the cannon for

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good reason, and for good reason being I had I

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had some groups that I was studying under years ago,

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and one of the brothers was into even just the

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apocrypha and reading I think it was in the Book

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of Eddres and reading about how you were given so

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many days to travel once you die to heaven and

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that we were to help pray these people through. And

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I think that's a Catholic doctrine because the Catholic Bible

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still has those scriptures in and they still go by them,

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and there's some beautiful things in there. But he went

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to it. He got invited to preach out a revival

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and he started teaching that at a revival and they

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actually ran him out. He's like, let's go to book

1221
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a second Edgress and they're like, what second look never

1222
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heard preaching about like somebody who passed away that we

1223
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can pray and get him there, and it's just, yeah,

1224
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you gotta be careful. Definitely, gotta be careful and be wealthy.

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And then that.

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Speaker 4: Man second extra has some great prophecies in there too. Yeah,

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But even so, I don't rely on it as much,

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you know, I will. I will use it sort of

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as a backup, yeah, but not as a source.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's some there's some beautiful stuff in there. Man.

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I've actually got a tattoo on my chest. It's a

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scripture from the Book of Sarak and it says, strive

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for the truth unto death, and the Lord shall fight

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01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,319
for the That's a that's a beautiful truth, and I

1235
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think the scriptures backed that up. So I got that

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tattooed and it was funny. I had a h I

1237
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had a Jehovah's witness come by the other day and uh,

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and I didn't know who it was. And I went

1239
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outside with my shirt off, and he's like looking at

1240
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all my tattoos and stuff, and he's seen the one.

1241
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He's I want to talk to you about that one,

1242
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that book. Like I'm like, sir, I'm not going to

1243
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fight you about this book. Like, uh, He's like, that

1244
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book's not in the Bible for a reason. He's lecturing

1245
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me on it. I said, it's a beautiful book. There's

1246
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:00,600
some beautiful things in it. I'm not going to hold

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it over the cannon those type of things, you know.

1248
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But he just wouldn't leave that. He wouldn't leave that alone.

1249
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,920
I'm like, hey, it's not about that book, like it

1250
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is interesting, you know, but it was in the Bible

1251
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for over too, and he wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: He wouldn't.

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Speaker 5: But it's not anymore. I'm gonna tell you about Jehovah

1254
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and what why you know? And I was like, okay, hey,

1255
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we had a good conversation, but I wasn't looking to

1256
01:14:22,399 --> 01:14:24,279
win him over and he was trying to win me,

1257
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so it got kind of awkward a little bit. I

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think we you have time for one more call absolutely

1259
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check out this call. We got a caller from southeast Texas.

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UH caller on there who's speaking with.

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01:14:38,119 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 2: Oh hey, what's up?

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01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:39,239
Speaker 5: D S.

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Speaker 7: Larson?

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Speaker 5: All right, what's going on? Man, dude?

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01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:46,399
Speaker 7: Just just tune into your show. Man.

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01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 7: We're me and Ammy. We're really encouraged with how you

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stepped into the role that that y'all put you in, uh,

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after after moving you to the next step, you know,

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after your job.

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Speaker 5: Amen. Thank you, man, I got chills you just uh

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confirming that, Man, Thank you so much. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 6: For sure.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely. Man. Well, UH love you, Gary. I've got your

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books and right here next to me on my uh

1276
01:15:16,399 --> 01:15:21,000
right bedside table. Uh my dad got it for me

1277
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for uh for my thirtieth birthday. So love it.

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Speaker 5: Love you.

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Speaker 7: One of the things that I am uh making aware

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to people is that UH is that we're a lot

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closer to events transpiring and the end the day of

1282
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:49,199
the Lord uh than a lot of people realize. And

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one of the things that UH keeps being brought to

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my attention is that the that the Book of Relation,

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that it's the revelation of Yehushua. It's the revelation of

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the Messiah, and so it's been occurring to me slowly

1287
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but surely that perhaps the way that the ruling elites

1288
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are going about this is they are planning for the

1289
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for the reign of their God, which they think is

1290
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ushering in a new golden age. They might think that

1291
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:36,000
the millennium rain applies to them, and so they don't

1292
01:16:36,159 --> 01:16:41,640
have an idea of the sense of the sense of

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01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:45,039
urgency that we're in in this timeline. Hence why it

1294
01:16:45,159 --> 01:16:49,640
seems like they can kind of slow place some things,

1295
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:51,920
or they think they can set all this up and

1296
01:16:52,119 --> 01:16:54,760
execute this, this and this and this. And the thing

1297
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is they're being allowed to do that because the Book

1298
01:16:59,319 --> 01:17:04,560
of Revelation and isn't meant for those who are who

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are like them, It's meant for us. It's meant for

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us to understand the scriptures talk about that they'll that

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01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:15,039
they'll uh that they'll see and not understand, you know,

1302
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and they won't be able to comprehend. It's interesting to

1303
01:17:20,319 --> 01:17:24,920
me because I'm just trying to make people aware that

1304
01:17:25,199 --> 01:17:28,640
this might not look like how we've all been taught

1305
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,119
that is going to look like.

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Speaker 8: And one of the things that's happening right now is

1307
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the hive mind is getting is getting ready is getting

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prepared across I mean across the globe, and with five

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01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:44,720
G that might accelerate to their ultimate zeness or or whatever.

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Speaker 7: But the thing is, it's like what you were saying,

1311
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:52,319
d is that they those things We used to find

1312
01:17:52,319 --> 01:17:54,600
out the things that the other side is doing, and

1313
01:17:56,119 --> 01:17:58,399
you know, and report on that and get excited about

1314
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:02,119
that or whatever. Nowadays it doesn't it doesn't matter. You know,

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01:18:02,319 --> 01:18:05,479
we're we pay attention, yes, but we're not focused on it.

1316
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,479
And the point is to be kingdom focused and be

1317
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:12,720
kingdom minded. And while they have their high mind going,

1318
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:16,560
which is trying to simulate how the Holy Spirit, how

1319
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:21,239
the Ruac Hakad speaks to the speaks to the bride,

1320
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the bride is coming into the same kind of realizations

1321
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and connections, almost seemingly telepathically, but through you know, through

1322
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the ruoc is that they're trying to experience on their

1323
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side and linking everybody up. And one of the things

1324
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that has been playing on my mind is Matthew twenty

1325
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A hold up. I does say that pulled up twenty

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four thirty eight for it says for as in for

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in those days that they were marrying and being given

1328
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in marriage and eating and drinking until the day that know,

1329
01:19:02,119 --> 01:19:06,079
when it went on the art. And to me, what

1330
01:19:06,239 --> 01:19:11,359
that sounds like is that they're just like in the flood,

1331
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they're not prepared for what is about to happen, and

1332
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it befalls them in an instant. So I'm letting people know,

1333
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you know, like that there there doesn't necessarily have to

1334
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be this like this moment where you're just like, oh,

1335
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that's it. You know, if you're not being led by

1336
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the Ruwak, I think you're going to I think you're

1337
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gonna be deceived and you're gonna be You're gonna miss it.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess it was just more and more comments

1340
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,520
on that. But but the thing is, it's like I

1341
01:19:48,199 --> 01:19:51,840
feel that we're that we're actually into the seals. We're

1342
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obviously not through the sixth Seal because there's a ton

1343
01:19:55,239 --> 01:19:59,399
of stuff that goes on then. But you know, I'm

1344
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,199
letting people, you know, we don't have we don't have

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the time.

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Speaker 4: That you'll think.

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Speaker 7: You know that a lot of people think.

1348
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Speaker 4: That we do.

1349
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Speaker 5: So to that how important is it to be in

1350
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:16,760
tune with the Holy Spirit and kind of moving forward

1351
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,600
with this whole end time thing. And there's so many

1352
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:22,880
theories too that it can kind of get overwhelming or

1353
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,479
this is happening, and like we're saying, being in tune

1354
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:29,159
with what the government is doing or the King Alfred

1355
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Plan and all the Agenda twenty one and things like that,

1356
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and being concerned with that versus like the scriptures. That

1357
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is where I'm at, is the scriptures about whatsoever is good,

1358
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whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are pure? Like think

1359
01:20:45,199 --> 01:20:48,199
on these things. That's where I'm at. So where does

1360
01:20:48,279 --> 01:20:50,000
that play in as far as walking in the spirit,

1361
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being in the spirit of Christ, and then all of

1362
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the fake news and all of the media and all

1363
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of the crazy stuff out there.

1364
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Speaker 4: You know, yeah, I think you have to, you know,

1365
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watch what's going on in the media and stuff like that,

1366
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but you have to be able to discern. And as

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the last caller was talking about, you know, revelation and

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prophecy in itself doesn't tend to happen the way people

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think it's going to happen, and people are always surprised

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whether or not. It was with the first coming of Jesus.

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With the Judaean people, they were absolutely surprised at the

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way he appeared and weren't ready for it. And I

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also like what the color had said about revelation and

1374
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that you know, it's the revelation of Jesus, and so

1375
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if you're going to understand revelation, you need to go

1376
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and listen to what Jesus said first. Actually should do

1377
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that on all prophecy and all doctrine, and then place

1378
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everything else around it. So he's quoting from Matthew twenty four.

1379
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I mean you have to go to that to understand

1380
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what's being talked about in the Bible, so as to

1381
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not in the revelation, so as not to be saved.

1382
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The whole point of the matter is is that we

1383
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will not be able to trust the information that's coming

1384
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at us. Will have to be grounded in scripture and

1385
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the Holy Spirit so that we can discern what is

1386
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happening and what is coming at us, because even the

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electric will be deceived if that were possible. And just

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by saying that that is what is going to happen,

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you got anything else lost than you.

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Speaker 5: Want to add?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? No, man, just uh just loving, just loving it.

1392
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You know, we uh, I gotta show you this, I

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gotta show you this really encouraging video that came to

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us the other day, uh D and I Uh A

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lot of a lot of people that we talked to

1396
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and that we're associated with and connected with have felt

1397
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like we're in a we're in a waiting period and

1398
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we've been in our secret chambers, so to speak, speaking

1399
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after him. And you know, if if we've learned anything

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in our walk is not to run off because we

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01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,840
think we know where we're going or what the plan is,

1402
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and uh, you know him and I mean I can't,

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you know, like I think we've all been there, you know.

1404
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We we're like, oh, yeah, no, I got this. You know,

1405
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,920
all right, well I'm gonna let you go ahead and

1406
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do that.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, the.

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Speaker 7: The time is, the time is coming. A lot of

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one of the things of you know, I'm I'm involved

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with Omni Good Music also, and we are growing into

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one of the largest labels of in in music, in

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01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:58,119
Christian music, and we've got everything from from rap to rock,

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01:23:58,279 --> 01:24:04,239
to to heavy metal to country music, you know. And anyways,

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01:24:04,319 --> 01:24:09,279
what what we've understood is that the Kingdom is starting

1415
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:14,159
here on earth and that we are preparing the way

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01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:18,840
for the Messiah to return, you know. But but it's

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01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,920
being done right now, it's not something that we're looking

1418
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,720
forward to in the future, you know, like I understand

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01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:27,199
that it might not have accelerated to the point where,

1420
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:29,600
you know, but but it starts out humble, you know,

1421
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:34,159
it starts out as a seat and we're just just

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01:24:34,279 --> 01:24:38,399
looking forward and following you guys, and you know, just

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01:24:39,119 --> 01:24:45,239
just teaching various individuals around us, you know. I'm uh,

1424
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:49,119
there's definitely definitely people that we keep getting put in

1425
01:24:49,359 --> 01:24:54,039
contact to who are wanting the truth and in these days.

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01:24:54,319 --> 01:24:59,159
Uh okay, so real quick, last thing, something super interesting.

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01:24:59,239 --> 01:25:04,920
The day of the clips, my girlfriend Emmy and future wife,

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01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:09,840
she got this verse in her head Amos eight eight

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01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:13,439
where it talks about that in that day that the

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ward will cause the sun to go dark at noon,

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01:25:17,359 --> 01:25:20,720
and then the rest of the chapter talks about how

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01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,119
that he's going to be sending a famine on the land,

1433
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:26,960
not one of bread or water, but one of hearing

1434
01:25:27,279 --> 01:25:31,600
and understanding the word in the Truth of the Most High.

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01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:35,039
And what was crazy is that that it was on

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01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:39,000
the day of the eclipse. Well, a couple of days later,

1437
01:25:39,159 --> 01:25:41,640
we were talking to somebody and she said, well, you

1438
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:44,279
know what, like me and my husband got a message

1439
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,359
from the Holy Spirit to look up in Amos eight

1440
01:25:48,399 --> 01:25:50,239
on the day of the eclipse, and we're just sitting

1441
01:25:50,279 --> 01:25:52,399
there and you know, we'd be surprised by these things,

1442
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:56,319
but it doesn't surprise us anymore. It's just how things

1443
01:25:56,479 --> 01:26:01,039
are unfold, things are going. What the thing is is

1444
01:26:01,159 --> 01:26:04,920
that this this famine that is coming on the land

1445
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:08,439
doesn't necessarily have to be one of food, and it

1446
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:10,720
doesn't have to be one of water, and it can

1447
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:14,920
be spiritual food and spiritual water. And so that's why

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01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,600
I'm just another part of you know, making people aware

1449
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:20,960
of the time that we're in because it doesn't it

1450
01:26:21,359 --> 01:26:23,319
doesn't have to go down like you think it does,

1451
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:26,840
you know. But but that's just another cool thing, you

1452
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:29,119
know about messages from the.

1453
01:26:29,199 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 5: Rou are so dude likes having me? Yeah, man, dude,

1454
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:39,920
I got to have you on as a guest man, dude, absolutely,

1455
01:26:40,199 --> 01:26:42,039
we will do it soon, my brother, Thank you for calling.

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01:26:42,159 --> 01:26:42,279
Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, love you guys, Love you, bro.

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01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:50,159
Speaker 5: That's a that's a big thing. As far as people

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01:26:50,319 --> 01:26:52,880
waiting for God, I know there's a time that we wait.

1460
01:26:53,319 --> 01:26:54,920
I know there's a time for us to be that

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01:26:55,039 --> 01:26:57,039
we have to be sent. But like you said that

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there is people out there who are hungry. Even as

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01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,520
we look and see homeless people and people famish for food,

1464
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:06,439
there's a hunger and thirst for the truth and for

1465
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:08,920
the word of God. Those who hunger and thirst for

1466
01:27:09,039 --> 01:27:14,199
righteousness shall be filled. So just wherever you are, know

1467
01:27:14,359 --> 01:27:17,199
if you're on the job site, you're at Walmart, wherever

1468
01:27:17,319 --> 01:27:19,840
you are, wherever God has you, don't be afraid to

1469
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:22,680
speak the truth. To speak the truth and love and

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01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,680
to share with them. People are waiting for you. The

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01:27:26,039 --> 01:27:28,880
earth is groaning for the manifestations of the sons of God,

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01:27:29,119 --> 01:27:31,600
for you to be an expression of God's love. So

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01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:34,760
anybody out there waiting to be sent you have my permission.

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Speaker 6: You go.

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01:27:35,319 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 5: You just simply simply give what has been given to you,

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01:27:39,199 --> 01:27:41,720
no more, no less. If you receive the grace of

1477
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:44,560
God upon your life, and he's shown you grace and mercy,

1478
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:48,159
show that to others freely you have received, freely give

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01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:51,079
Do it, man, Because like you said, the time is sure.

1480
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:55,479
People are hungry. People are are They want the truth.

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01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:59,279
And so if we don't, if we don't tell them

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01:27:59,279 --> 01:28:01,199
the truth, if we don't give them, if we don't

1483
01:28:01,199 --> 01:28:03,279
answer their questions, they're gonna go, They're gonna go to

1484
01:28:03,359 --> 01:28:06,399
other people, and some of those people who in many

1485
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:09,520
of our cases they go to like the New Agers

1486
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,199
and stuff like that, who would totally answer their questions,

1487
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:15,079
totally give them their truth. So it's sound for us

1488
01:28:15,319 --> 01:28:18,600
who in a movement of truth, a truth movement. This

1489
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:21,520
is the Truth Seek a podcast. If we have the truth,

1490
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,960
why not share it, why not be vocal about it?

1491
01:28:25,039 --> 01:28:27,319
If we have what they're looking for? And that's for

1492
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:30,680
every believer, that's for everybody who has a spirit and

1493
01:28:31,079 --> 01:28:34,479
love of the truth of the manifestation, be that manifestation

1494
01:28:35,039 --> 01:28:37,840
of Christ in you, the hope of glory Christ out

1495
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:41,479
of you, the manifestation of that hope. One more question

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01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:43,199
before we end it. I appreciate you hanging out with

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01:28:43,319 --> 01:28:49,520
me on here. Brother. We so mainly where I'm at

1498
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:53,439
now studying in the scriptures is the esoteric breakdowns of

1499
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,600
the Bible, as far as like the spiritual meanings of

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01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:58,800
the Old Testament. I know we have, you know, the

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01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,520
physical way of looking at it like it's a history

1502
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:06,159
book and things me now, I'm when I read about

1503
01:29:06,199 --> 01:29:10,960
the Israelites, when I read about Egypt, those represent different

1504
01:29:11,039 --> 01:29:14,000
things in my life. My land of sin and when

1505
01:29:14,039 --> 01:29:16,680
I was in the land of bondage, and that represents

1506
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:19,159
a part of my life. And I can't help but

1507
01:29:19,359 --> 01:29:22,399
read the Bible and not see these pictures anymore about

1508
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:26,239
it telling about my spiritual path and spiritual life. So

1509
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:31,279
when I see the when I see the Israelites coming

1510
01:29:31,319 --> 01:29:35,399
in Israelites meaning children of God, a child of God,

1511
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:38,560
coming into battle with these other nations and doing war

1512
01:29:39,119 --> 01:29:42,840
and killing everyone that's in the other nations, I see

1513
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:49,359
it as different strongholds, different ideologies and thought patterns and

1514
01:29:50,399 --> 01:29:53,680
idolatry that I've given myself over to. And just as

1515
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,079
they fought with them, I have to fight with those

1516
01:29:56,439 --> 01:30:00,359
spiritual entities essentially, and we overcome through Christ same way

1517
01:30:00,399 --> 01:30:03,079
they overcome, We overcome. That's how I look at it now.

1518
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:07,520
But when we're talking about the killing of the other nations,

1519
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:10,640
and especially I'm sure joining it in with Genesis six,

1520
01:30:11,319 --> 01:30:14,720
a lot of people are talking about how they are

1521
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:18,640
the Israelites are justified with slaughtering entire nations of women

1522
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:21,359
and children and not letting any of them get out,

1523
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:26,960
because that these were nations of Nephelim and giants, and

1524
01:30:27,079 --> 01:30:31,399
that they have this call to eradicate them off the

1525
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:34,880
face of the planet to do war with them. With

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01:30:35,039 --> 01:30:36,840
that being I'm pretty sure we can agree with you.

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01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:39,039
You've heard of that, right, Oh?

1528
01:30:39,159 --> 01:30:43,279
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean they, I mean the Promised Land was

1529
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:51,800
absolutely overflowing with Repaem and Anachem, and they interbred hybrids

1530
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,840
like the Amorites would have intermarried with them then, So

1531
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:59,199
they had gone there laying in wait for Israel to

1532
01:30:59,279 --> 01:31:01,920
come as part of that revenge we were talking about earlier,

1533
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:04,239
to wipe them from the face of the earth so

1534
01:31:04,319 --> 01:31:07,399
the Messiah wouldn't come. So, yes, this is about the

1535
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:10,000
giants and who are violating and corrupting the land?

1536
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 5: Is that? Okay? Here's the tricky thing because many people

1537
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:22,600
still believe, you know that these bloodlines are still ruling now, right,

1538
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:27,319
And I feel like it's very very similar to like

1539
01:31:28,319 --> 01:31:33,000
the genocide, with even like Hitler believing that they were

1540
01:31:33,079 --> 01:31:36,479
the pure race and that they had to eradicate the

1541
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:39,399
other nations that were weaker. We can't mix with them,

1542
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:42,640
we can't intermarry, and stuff like that. Where does that

1543
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:46,319
tie in? Do you see that? You see the connection there? Definitely?

1544
01:31:46,399 --> 01:31:50,520
Speaker 4: But sure, And in the book, in case anybody's interested,

1545
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:53,920
I have a chapter devoted to the Nazis and the

1546
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:58,520
relationship to the nphilom and the belief systems. So, in

1547
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:02,199
a nutshell, what is going on with the Nazis as

1548
01:32:02,279 --> 01:32:04,720
they believed that they were part of the Aryan race

1549
01:32:05,199 --> 01:32:07,359
and of course the air and race or blonde hair,

1550
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:12,439
blue eyed Nephelo who escaped through Tartarus after the flood,

1551
01:32:13,079 --> 01:32:16,159
and Tartaris for people who are familiar with Greek mythology,

1552
01:32:16,279 --> 01:32:18,880
is the prison that the Titans or the giants who

1553
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:22,640
rebelled were imprisoned in, right, And that part of the

1554
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:27,880
organizing societies to create the Nazis was the Thule society.

1555
01:32:28,239 --> 01:32:31,960
Thule is the ancient Atlantis. It's either one of the

1556
01:32:32,039 --> 01:32:36,199
same or just sort of a real or voc slant

1557
01:32:36,239 --> 01:32:38,960
to it, or it's a different on different civilization of

1558
01:32:39,039 --> 01:32:41,439
one of the seven in the ancient world, but it

1559
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:45,000
sounds like it's the Aryan Atlantis anyways. It could be

1560
01:32:45,079 --> 01:32:49,560
Asgard for example. And so this is the type of

1561
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:56,079
organization that is putting the Nazi religion together, which is

1562
01:32:56,479 --> 01:33:01,000
theosophy mixed with real and volkside theology, and real is

1563
01:33:01,039 --> 01:33:03,720
about the bloodlines and the bloodlines of the Arians and

1564
01:33:04,319 --> 01:33:06,800
creating a new super race through it, which they want

1565
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:09,359
to create the new Man, which is the Nephilum concept,

1566
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:12,079
and it's the blonde hair, blue eyed version that they're

1567
01:33:12,119 --> 01:33:14,920
trying to recreate. And it all goes back to their

1568
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:20,960
belief system that is polytheism, and they call this religion ariosophy.

1569
01:33:21,279 --> 01:33:24,079
And in nineteen thirty thirty he set up the Right Search,

1570
01:33:24,279 --> 01:33:27,319
which is the same type of religion that's going to

1571
01:33:27,399 --> 01:33:30,560
come in the end time. Nothing is new under the sun.

1572
01:33:31,079 --> 01:33:34,359
Everything is being played over and over and over and over.

1573
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:38,800
And just as they reduce Jesus back to a mortal

1574
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:42,560
profit status in that belief system, they will do the

1575
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:46,279
same in the end time. And so you want to

1576
01:33:46,319 --> 01:33:51,239
look at an analogy and occultism research the Nazis, because

1577
01:33:51,359 --> 01:33:54,640
I think that's a very good parallel for the end time,

1578
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:58,399
complete with amasiatic figure like Hitler and the.

1579
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:02,640
Speaker 5: Holocaust, something what a Larson brought to the table talking

1580
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:07,239
about they're all waiting for this Messiah to come and

1581
01:34:07,319 --> 01:34:10,039
it's non Jesus, and I think that we're talking about

1582
01:34:10,119 --> 01:34:15,159
this Antichrist figure to rise into to unify the nations.

1583
01:34:16,359 --> 01:34:18,640
It won't be something holy, it won't be something beautiful,

1584
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:21,840
but it will fulfill everything in their holy books that

1585
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:24,920
they're waiting for. They're waiting for this Mantrea type figure.

1586
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 4: Yes, and all religions around the world and societies that

1587
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:34,479
are polytheists are waiting for their own Messiah. So it

1588
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:36,800
could be a Buddha, could be Lord Matreya as they

1589
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:40,000
like to call them, And there's many a recreation of this.

1590
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:43,760
Vishnu is the other sort of aspect that goes along

1591
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:48,359
with that Eastern mysticism. And Jesus said that there would

1592
01:34:48,399 --> 01:34:51,920
be many false Christs come in the end time, so

1593
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:57,199
there's going to be a lot of counterfeit messiah before

1594
01:34:57,279 --> 01:34:59,920
the true one steps forward, which is again why people

1595
01:35:00,119 --> 01:35:04,439
are going to be getting ahead of themselves in so

1596
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:09,479
many ways, uh and being disillusioned. And then when the

1597
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:12,720
Antichrist does come after what seems to be the full

1598
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,079
you know, the bold judgments, but it's just the trumpet

1599
01:35:15,159 --> 01:35:18,399
and the seals being open, they're going to say, hey,

1600
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:22,199
that's the true Messiah when he comes, right. Yeah, people

1601
01:35:22,359 --> 01:35:25,039
have to be able to discern. So this idea of

1602
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,920
false messiahs, they're coming, just as the false prophets are coming.

1603
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,199
We haven't seen them yet, but I think we're going

1604
01:35:33,279 --> 01:35:34,359
to start seeing them soon.

1605
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely. Well, Gary Wayne, I appreciate you coming on

1606
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:40,920
the podcast hanging out with me. I got to pick

1607
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:43,000
your brain for a little while, and I ask you

1608
01:35:43,079 --> 01:35:45,239
a bunch of questions that I had for you in

1609
01:35:45,359 --> 01:35:48,520
a really good building with you man plug your website

1610
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:51,119
and you and your book again and all the work

1611
01:35:51,159 --> 01:35:52,720
that you're doing right now, if you want to go

1612
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:54,319
ahead and do that for the listeners, and I'll put

1613
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:57,239
all the links in the show description in everything as well.

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Speaker 4: Sure. The book is called The Genesis six Conspiracy, How

1615
01:36:02,119 --> 01:36:06,039
secret societies and the descendants of Giants plan to enslave Humankind.

1616
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:11,279
It's available through Amazon dot com, Barnes, Andoble dot com

1617
01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:15,640
most online bookstores. You can also support your local bookstore

1618
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:17,840
if you like. It's probably not on the shelf there,

1619
01:36:18,359 --> 01:36:21,319
but it's distributed by book masters so they can order

1620
01:36:21,359 --> 01:36:23,399
the book in If you want to support your local bookstore,

1621
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:25,680
you can have a look at the book. I have

1622
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:29,680
ninety eight chapters in the book. It's an extensive book,

1623
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:34,079
and I have a generous excerpt on each of those chapters,

1624
01:36:34,119 --> 01:36:35,479
so you can get a good look at it on

1625
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:39,800
my website. Genesis six conspiracy dot com. That's Genesis sixth

1626
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:43,079
Number six dot com conspiracy dot com, and you can

1627
01:36:43,159 --> 01:36:45,159
get a hold of me through the website. I've also

1628
01:36:45,239 --> 01:36:47,760
got some interviews up there if you want to get

1629
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:50,000
a better flavor for some of the things I might

1630
01:36:50,079 --> 01:36:53,159
be talking about. And you can follow me on Gary

1631
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:58,279
Wayne on Facebook. Also, i have two Genesis six Conspiracy

1632
01:36:58,359 --> 01:37:01,479
pages and I'm also working with the Giontology page as well.

1633
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:04,359
And I also have a group called Gury Wayne Genesis

1634
01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:07,239
sixth Conspiracy, So you can get hold of me anywhere

1635
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:09,479
on there, or you can also follow me or get

1636
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:11,479
a hold of me on Twitter at Gury Wayne six

1637
01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:14,840
three at Gerry Wayne sixty three. And if you get

1638
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:16,800
hold of me with a question, I will get back

1639
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:16,960
to you.

1640
01:37:18,159 --> 01:37:20,319
Speaker 5: You heard the man, do it? Go there and support

1641
01:37:20,399 --> 01:37:23,359
this book. I'll have a link in the show notes

1642
01:37:23,399 --> 01:37:25,840
and on the website as well. Gary Wayne, thank you

1643
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:27,560
so much for hanging out with me. Man. I appreciate you.

1644
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:30,359
Speaker 4: Man well, thank you for having me. It's been very fun.

1645
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:32,399
And invite me back anytime.

1646
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:35,520
Speaker 5: We'll do brother, Thank you so much, Thank you, God

1647
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:43,680
bless awesome show. Awesome show. I've done so much research

1648
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:48,119
on Genesis six and the fallen Angels in the Nephelo

1649
01:37:48,279 --> 01:37:50,720
And there was just a period of time where I

1650
01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:54,479
would just consume with that stuff, man, And and I

1651
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:57,560
think everybody goes through that season, right, and let's have

1652
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,800
questions select to revisit it. And there's a lot of

1653
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:03,319
truth to hold on through it though, a lot of truth,

1654
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:06,359
especially where I'm at now as far as like I've

1655
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:09,399
given myself over to studying the spirit realm, how it

1656
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:11,720
operates and how it moves around. And if you want

1657
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:13,960
to if you want to know that, you have to

1658
01:38:15,399 --> 01:38:17,520
go to Enoch, like you have to pick up Enoch.

1659
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:24,279
So Kenny you there, brother? Yes, all right, man? What'd

1660
01:38:24,319 --> 01:38:25,000
you think of the show?

1661
01:38:25,079 --> 01:38:25,199
Speaker 2: Bro?

1662
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:28,640
Speaker 7: Oh?

1663
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:29,520
Speaker 6: Another drink?

1664
01:38:32,039 --> 01:38:33,600
Speaker 5: Awesome? I know you probably got to get up for

1665
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:34,600
work early, too, don't you.

1666
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:40,560
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, I think, uh, session on a lot

1667
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:44,920
of things that I've been, uh, you know, researching myself,

1668
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:47,760
trying to find the truth. Trying to find the truth, man,

1669
01:38:48,039 --> 01:38:49,399
always just trying to find the truth.

1670
01:38:50,199 --> 01:38:55,039
Speaker 5: Yeah. My my simplistic reach for it is always gone

1671
01:38:55,119 --> 01:38:57,199
back to and this has led me many places, but

1672
01:38:57,319 --> 01:39:00,600
my simplistic reach has always gone back like did Jesus

1673
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:03,760
have it you know, did the disciples have it? You

1674
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:05,920
know what I'm saying, did they know it? So when

1675
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:09,159
we're talking about Enoch, when we're talking about Solomon and

1676
01:39:09,239 --> 01:39:12,359
some of these other books, was that something that they

1677
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:13,199
referenced a lot?

1678
01:39:13,359 --> 01:39:13,520
Speaker 4: You know?

1679
01:39:14,079 --> 01:39:17,680
Speaker 5: And the more studying you do you find out, Yeah,

1680
01:39:18,239 --> 01:39:22,319
because there are what it's called dark sayings and obscure

1681
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:25,720
verses and esoteric and stuff that seems a cultic because

1682
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:28,520
you read it one time and you keep reading. Like

1683
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:31,239
I said about the you know, the women covering their hair,

1684
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:34,640
you read that in the New Testament and Corinthians, and

1685
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:37,720
I believe it's in Peter as well, and you just

1686
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:39,880
keep reading. You don't really go into that, but just

1687
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:41,840
doing the breakdown of some of these other books you

1688
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:44,119
find out how they fit because they give you some

1689
01:39:44,239 --> 01:39:45,560
more info on that stuff.

1690
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:45,760
Speaker 4: You know.

1691
01:39:49,079 --> 01:39:51,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I can't agree with you more. I

1692
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:54,520
remember the first time I read the book Ko and

1693
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:57,800
it just blew my mind. I was like, what is

1694
01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:00,479
all this? Why in this on the box?

1695
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:01,880
Speaker 5: I know?

1696
01:40:02,079 --> 01:40:04,239
Speaker 6: Right out?

1697
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:07,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, they said that there's some some things that

1698
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:10,279
are inconsistent and some things that may seem far out

1699
01:40:10,319 --> 01:40:14,279
as doctrinal wise, but hey, nothing more than's not in

1700
01:40:14,359 --> 01:40:17,159
the Bible, right, some things.

1701
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 6: You know, I think it only became inconvenient because people

1702
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:26,920
forgot how to explain it to the scientists.

1703
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:31,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go, man, They definitely are explaining away

1704
01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:34,880
the spirituality, right, and the demons and stuff like that,

1705
01:40:35,079 --> 01:40:38,359
and stuff that, you know, the ailments and stuff. Man, Jesus.

1706
01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:41,520
In the early Church, they believed and disc gets into

1707
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,680
some deep, some deep stuff, because there's a lot of

1708
01:40:45,279 --> 01:40:49,159
stuff when you look into the medieval writings, they believed

1709
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:54,800
that germs were demons and the little microscopic organisms. Well

1710
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:58,720
we're talking about these dragons and these monsters and these beasts.

1711
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:01,399
When you look at the micro scopic organisms, what do

1712
01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:05,880
they look like? They look like these weird beast and

1713
01:41:06,199 --> 01:41:08,680
dragons and stuff, and when they get in your body

1714
01:41:09,239 --> 01:41:12,039
they cause ailments and sickness and things like that. So

1715
01:41:12,199 --> 01:41:15,840
there's a lot of stuff about those being the actual

1716
01:41:16,159 --> 01:41:20,119
demons or the entities on a microscopic level. So I

1717
01:41:20,119 --> 01:41:23,800
wouldn't say that essentially science is explaining in a way,

1718
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:26,159
but if we look at it with a trained eye,

1719
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:29,760
for me, it's helping it make even more sense, you know.

1720
01:41:30,159 --> 01:41:34,479
And there's prayers from the medieval time of them banishing

1721
01:41:35,159 --> 01:41:39,800
the worms and the dragons, and they're talking about these parasites,

1722
01:41:40,119 --> 01:41:42,920
you know, And if we look at how demons operate

1723
01:41:43,039 --> 01:41:47,680
in the spirit realm, they operate exactly like parasites. They

1724
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:50,359
get on you, they suck your energy out, they leach

1725
01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:52,600
onto you, and you have to be rid of them

1726
01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:55,279
the same way. It gets into some deep breakdowns.

1727
01:41:55,319 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 4: Man.

1728
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:04,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, man, I'm I'm just all over the place

1729
01:42:04,399 --> 01:42:06,680
in my mind right now. I'm trying to collect my thoughts.

1730
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, talking about that, Yeah.

1731
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:13,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah.

1732
01:42:15,079 --> 01:42:20,119
Speaker 6: I remember when I was like ten years old. I

1733
01:42:20,239 --> 01:42:22,119
remember when I was like ten or twelve years old.

1734
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:25,439
I was playing basketball in the driveway with my friend

1735
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:28,119
and I look up in the sky and I see UFO.

1736
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:31,239
I'm like, what the heck is that? And i see

1737
01:42:31,279 --> 01:42:34,840
a helicopter chasement. I'm like, okay, yeah, well, I guess

1738
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:37,479
when I'm playing basketball, I don't know what to think

1739
01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:37,840
about that.

1740
01:42:39,199 --> 01:42:41,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, when I not.

1741
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:44,960
Speaker 6: Really, I mean, that's that's that's my faith for real.

1742
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:45,800
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1743
01:42:46,199 --> 01:42:46,239
Speaker 4: No.

1744
01:42:46,399 --> 01:42:48,760
Speaker 5: When I when I really got into studying that stuff,

1745
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:52,560
I was led to a lot of the Christian work.

1746
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:56,199
When I started studying about aliens, and angels and the

1747
01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:59,760
falling angels. That's because if you if you're a Christian

1748
01:43:00,199 --> 01:43:02,119
and you and that's what I'm kind of glad we

1749
01:43:02,199 --> 01:43:04,239
didn't go down this road. He touched on it for

1750
01:43:04,279 --> 01:43:06,359
a second, but I didn't want to spend I didn't

1751
01:43:06,359 --> 01:43:07,520
want to spend a lot of time there, and I

1752
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:10,880
wasn't going to debate them about it. But if you're

1753
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:12,960
a Christian and you're looking up the fallen angels, you're

1754
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:15,319
eventually going to be led to the alien stuff and

1755
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:19,119
the alien and and so all the Christian realm says that, uh,

1756
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:24,079
aliens or ets are fallen angels there. They want to

1757
01:43:24,119 --> 01:43:26,960
abduct you and beat you up and take your body

1758
01:43:27,079 --> 01:43:30,119
and kidnap you and stuff like that, and all like

1759
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:35,600
they they definitely could be. But all of the Christian

1760
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:38,520
stuff that that that you look up, they're definitely going

1761
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:40,720
to tell you that it's demonic, demonic all the way.

1762
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:43,359
And so I started studying that under all the big

1763
01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:48,359
names uh Lynn Marzouli, Steve Quail, Tom Horn, and just

1764
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:51,119
so many other people who's like these are demons. And

1765
01:43:51,279 --> 01:43:54,880
then I'm going out and I'm having my own encounters

1766
01:43:55,239 --> 01:43:59,199
under the stars, and I'm praying to God. I'm fasting,

1767
01:43:59,319 --> 01:44:03,359
I'm praying, praying clean, conscious, and I say, God, let

1768
01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:08,399
me see the seraphim, let me see the elohem. The

1769
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:12,079
elohem who are traveling back and forth from heaven to Earth,

1770
01:44:12,119 --> 01:44:15,079
as your scripture says, that are doing war over humanity.

1771
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:17,720
If they are out there and they are of you,

1772
01:44:18,199 --> 01:44:20,600
would you please let me see them. And that was

1773
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:24,880
my prayer with the purest of intentions. And after studying

1774
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:27,279
all the demonic stuff and being scared of aliens my

1775
01:44:27,359 --> 01:44:29,920
whole life as a kid, you know, watching horror movies

1776
01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:33,239
and firing the sky and all these movies, and I

1777
01:44:33,319 --> 01:44:38,560
started to have encounters man, and yeah, I started to

1778
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:47,239
have I started to see what we maybe call craft.

1779
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:51,319
But then I started to see what seemed to be

1780
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:55,479
living entities flying in outer space. Not that they were

1781
01:44:56,039 --> 01:44:57,640
a ship with I don't even know if there were

1782
01:44:57,720 --> 01:45:00,960
ships with beings in them, but these and these orbs

1783
01:45:01,079 --> 01:45:04,079
seem to be alive. And I'm praying to the Most

1784
01:45:04,159 --> 01:45:08,239
High God, and I understand the scripture says that you're

1785
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:14,239
that if you pray and you ask for bread, your

1786
01:45:14,279 --> 01:45:17,760
father's not going to give you a stone. If you

1787
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:21,159
pray and ask for a fish. Your father's not going

1788
01:45:21,239 --> 01:45:23,479
to give you a serpent. So there was a lot

1789
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:25,279
of people say, hey, man, be careful with that. You

1790
01:45:25,359 --> 01:45:29,359
may be calling forth UFOs, dude, maybe talking the demons

1791
01:45:29,399 --> 01:45:33,039
out there. If my intentions are pure and I am

1792
01:45:33,159 --> 01:45:35,479
one with Christ and the Holy Spirit lives within me,

1793
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:39,319
and my intentions are part, and I ask my heavenly father, Lord,

1794
01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:41,760
if these are of you, would you please show them

1795
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:44,439
to me. Let let one pass by, And then I

1796
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:47,920
start having all these crazy encounters. Man, that's how that's

1797
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:49,840
how this stuff went to the next level for me.

1798
01:45:51,359 --> 01:45:54,800
And I was wondering myself, Dude, that's how everything started

1799
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:57,560
for me. It really is of doing the studying and

1800
01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:01,199
going out there under the under the sky. So and now,

1801
01:46:01,279 --> 01:46:02,800
so I play with a lot of the names and

1802
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:05,079
terms and stuff like that, but I believe that they're

1803
01:46:05,079 --> 01:46:08,000
the angels of the Most High. We're talking about Enoch.

1804
01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:11,720
When Enoch says that while they while they are in heaven,

1805
01:46:13,279 --> 01:46:15,920
let's go, let's go to what is heaven? What does

1806
01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:18,920
the Bible say, Heaven is heaven is the sky. It's

1807
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:21,720
the same Hebrew word when it says I looked up

1808
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:25,079
into the sky and I beheld this, I looked up

1809
01:46:25,239 --> 01:46:28,840
into the heavens. It's the same Hebrew word. So looking

1810
01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:31,359
up into this, when we gaze into outer space, we're

1811
01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:35,399
gazing into the heavens. And so these angels are traveling

1812
01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:38,560
back and back and forth. Enoch says that these angels

1813
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:41,840
travel heaven back and forth, and they are made out

1814
01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:45,000
of fire, like Gary Wayne said, the seraphim. The word

1815
01:46:45,119 --> 01:46:48,119
seraphim means the fiery ones, the ones who are made

1816
01:46:48,159 --> 01:46:51,279
out of fire. Enoch reiterates it and says, yes, there

1817
01:46:51,319 --> 01:46:53,880
are the fiery ones that when they travel at the

1818
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:57,039
speed of light, they look like fire. And then when

1819
01:46:57,079 --> 01:46:59,159
they come to earth, they have the ability to take

1820
01:46:59,239 --> 01:47:01,760
on the bodies of men and look like men when

1821
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:04,119
they come to earth. And so these are the angels.

1822
01:47:04,239 --> 01:47:07,960
And it's even mentioned of in Psalms. The book of

1823
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:12,560
Psalm says he maketh his ministering angels as a flame

1824
01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:17,199
of fire. Is reiterated in Hebrews that same scripture, he

1825
01:47:17,319 --> 01:47:20,560
maketh his ministering angels, his minishing spirits as a flame

1826
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:24,840
of fire. And to go and so to have these

1827
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:29,239
visions under the night sky or the morning sky, and

1828
01:47:29,399 --> 01:47:32,640
see these things. Man. It opened it up. And I've

1829
01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:36,520
talked about this because many people will say, okay, it

1830
01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:40,600
makes it to where Okay, then there's something else going on.

1831
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:44,359
And for some people it would weaken their faith. They're like, hey,

1832
01:47:44,399 --> 01:47:46,760
if aliens are real, then the Bible's not real, you know,

1833
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:49,079
weird stuff like that. But for me, it's like, no,

1834
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:52,479
it becomes even more real because it's not like where

1835
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:55,239
Heaven is an imaginary place when you go when you die,

1836
01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:58,800
and angels are these beings who exist in another realm.

1837
01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:02,600
But no, this off has taken place right above our heads.

1838
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:09,119
Even now. Edgar Casey says that the battle of Armageddon

1839
01:48:09,159 --> 01:48:14,199
will be fought in the heavens, in outer space. It

1840
01:48:14,319 --> 01:48:15,880
opens up so much stuff, man.

1841
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:21,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I remember, man, when I first started looking

1842
01:48:21,439 --> 01:48:23,560
into this stuff. There's a couple of years before I

1843
01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:26,520
meant you probably, but me and my wife we watched

1844
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:30,960
The Ghost Hunters and we watched whatever that other one

1845
01:48:31,119 --> 01:48:34,279
was with the chick. I can't remember the name of

1846
01:48:34,319 --> 01:48:36,319
that show, but I'm sure you know what I'm talking about,

1847
01:48:38,119 --> 01:48:42,680
and just started realizing, you know, I don't believe in God.

1848
01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:46,560
Just started realizing they were wondering what is this and

1849
01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:48,840
trying to looking for answers in the Bible. I'm looking

1850
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:55,279
for answers from God and hearing Ali talk about her

1851
01:48:55,359 --> 01:49:00,520
experiences and everything. And I've never gone into witchcraft do anything.

1852
01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:04,920
I had data girls that did a lot, but I know,

1853
01:49:05,319 --> 01:49:07,960
I just kind of said, okay, yeah, whatever, go have fun,

1854
01:49:08,039 --> 01:49:11,239
and didn't really believe in any of it. But to

1855
01:49:11,359 --> 01:49:13,279
come to find out that really, I mean, that that

1856
01:49:13,359 --> 01:49:16,800
stuff real, It's true. It does have a power. There,

1857
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:20,680
there is real There were real magicians that could turn

1858
01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:24,680
a staff into the snake. There were real magicians that

1859
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:27,439
could turn water into blood. I mean, you know, that

1860
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:32,680
stuff was real, So why are we so scared of it?

1861
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:32,920
Speaker 4: You know?

1862
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:36,079
Speaker 6: And I just let you down, you know, path And

1863
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:38,560
two years later I hooked up with you and.

1864
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:46,159
Speaker 5: We're still traveling, traveling, and the whole, the whole thing

1865
01:49:46,199 --> 01:49:49,199
about that is too for one thing to be real.

1866
01:49:49,319 --> 01:49:52,800
So if there was magicians who could turn you know,

1867
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:56,640
a staff into uh a or whatever they did, I

1868
01:49:56,720 --> 01:50:00,479
forgot what the what the evil musicians did, but okay,

1869
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:03,000
they turned it into a serpent. Well, Moses, through his

1870
01:50:03,159 --> 01:50:05,439
to the ground, turned his into a serpent and his

1871
01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:10,279
atom right, I believe it was, And so yeah, so

1872
01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:13,960
so for for one thing to be true, the opposite

1873
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:17,640
has to be true as well. So as far as

1874
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like black magic is concerned or evil occultism, well there's

1875
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:24,119
white magic and that I believe that's the practice of

1876
01:50:24,239 --> 01:50:27,479
Jesus and understanding demons and how to cast them out,

1877
01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:29,920
Like there's an art to it. You have to study

1878
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:33,159
this stuff, like I've given life to understand this stuff,

1879
01:50:33,199 --> 01:50:36,640
and it gets into some very interesting stuff. But we

1880
01:50:36,840 --> 01:50:39,399
just know from like trial and error, and then like

1881
01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:41,479
I said, get back to the purest intentions, like what

1882
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:45,079
did Jesus know? Like and so I look at I

1883
01:50:45,159 --> 01:50:49,079
look at every exactly and not him being the son

1884
01:50:49,119 --> 01:50:51,960
of God, but just him and the disciples. Like IU said,

1885
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:53,479
that's why I bring up the disciple. Let's look at

1886
01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:55,439
the disciples. What did you know? What I'm saying, what

1887
01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:58,840
did they know? And uh, you know, they were well

1888
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:02,399
well versed in in Enoch, and they were well versed

1889
01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:08,279
in lots of books that weren't included in the canon,

1890
01:51:08,439 --> 01:51:11,760
and even the Testament of Solomon for one, because Jesus

1891
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:14,800
talks so as that, hey we're talking about demons. You

1892
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:17,399
got one greater than Solomon standing before you right now.

1893
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:21,920
And they were talking about demonism and spiritism and casting

1894
01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:23,720
out demons. So I said, hold on, why are they

1895
01:51:24,119 --> 01:51:26,479
why are these people mentioned in Solomon? And why is

1896
01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:30,000
Jesus venerating Solomon about about demons, Because that's not in

1897
01:51:30,079 --> 01:51:32,560
the Bible. Like, it doesn't it doesn't bring up anything

1898
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in the scriptures. You have to go into the Testiment

1899
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of Solomon to find out even like you know what

1900
01:51:39,199 --> 01:51:43,039
I'm saying, like what is it beezo Bub? What was

1901
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:46,720
mentioned of too only one time? And so the Christians

1902
01:51:46,760 --> 01:51:51,560
will tell you, well, that's just that's just Satan. Beezo

1903
01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:54,239
Bub is Satan. No beeze Bub is a separate entity,

1904
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:57,319
and there's ancient texts that talk about him and the

1905
01:51:57,399 --> 01:52:01,000
different legions that are under him. And so like I

1906
01:52:01,119 --> 01:52:03,199
fully believe that you have to really go into these

1907
01:52:03,239 --> 01:52:06,319
books to understand like the spirit realm and how these

1908
01:52:06,359 --> 01:52:09,680
demons operate, and to fully understand the Bible. That's why

1909
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:12,039
I say that, because there's no way, there's no way

1910
01:52:12,039 --> 01:52:16,359
you'll understand who Beelzebub or beez Above is if you've

1911
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:20,359
not read Solomon. There's no way people think that's Satan,

1912
01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:23,560
that's Azazel.

1913
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yep, it's The only thing in the Old Testament

1914
01:52:29,039 --> 01:52:31,279
about it is you send the goat out to is Azel,

1915
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:34,560
and they just put a name of Azel on a

1916
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:37,000
desert in the map. And they say, oh, well, that's

1917
01:52:37,039 --> 01:52:38,920
just because they're talking about the desert. And then you

1918
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:40,520
read the book at email, I can find out that

1919
01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:45,159
God described all sin to Ael. So that's why they're

1920
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sending the.

1921
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Speaker 5: And then and then you wonder why, I think, what

1922
01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:52,199
is it paramount pictures? When you're watching a movie, you're

1923
01:52:52,199 --> 01:52:54,239
watching paramount pictures. I believe it is. And there's the

1924
01:52:54,359 --> 01:52:57,239
there's the big mountain, and all these stars come around.

1925
01:52:57,239 --> 01:52:59,880
I think it's seven stars or thirteen stars. They come

1926
01:53:00,399 --> 01:53:03,239
the sky these stars, and the stars are symbolic for

1927
01:53:03,359 --> 01:53:06,520
the angels. Enoch tells you that the stars of the

1928
01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:09,760
stars are angels. And these stars come down and they

1929
01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:12,960
gather around the top of the mountain. And that's that's

1930
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:16,079
what Enoch talks about, that the stars came down from

1931
01:53:16,159 --> 01:53:18,880
heaven or the watchers, and they gathered around the top

1932
01:53:18,920 --> 01:53:22,319
of the mountain, and uh, and that's where they Despite that,

1933
01:53:22,439 --> 01:53:25,640
they started playing, plotting out to go down and take

1934
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:28,119
wives and women to go town and do all types

1935
01:53:28,159 --> 01:53:30,600
of destruction upon the earth. It's kind of funny. We

1936
01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:33,000
have our mutual friend Anthony, he's a good friend of ours.

1937
01:53:33,039 --> 01:53:37,119
But uh, he mentioned that was the thing. He started

1938
01:53:37,159 --> 01:53:40,000
reading Enoch and he couldn't get past that the stars

1939
01:53:40,039 --> 01:53:45,439
are angels. Bro. The stars are really really bro.

1940
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:51,479
Speaker 6: It's yeah, it becomes from a belief that their balls

1941
01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:53,600
of fire that are billions of miles away that we

1942
01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:58,079
can never get to. Sure, science doesn't about anything, so

1943
01:53:58,159 --> 01:53:59,359
why should they be right about that?

1944
01:53:59,720 --> 01:54:03,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was his hang up. And I remember giving

1945
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:07,359
another friend of mine when I was in the Enoch,

1946
01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:10,960
a friend of mine, Samuel, Samuel McCrae, good friend of mine.

1947
01:54:11,159 --> 01:54:11,880
You guys know him.

1948
01:54:12,319 --> 01:54:12,520
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1949
01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:16,119
Speaker 5: I actually gave him my Testament of Solomon to read

1950
01:54:16,239 --> 01:54:19,039
and he was reading it. His dad found it and

1951
01:54:19,159 --> 01:54:21,039
his dad brought it up to the church that I

1952
01:54:21,119 --> 01:54:22,640
went to, and he brought it up to the cave

1953
01:54:23,239 --> 01:54:25,279
and put it in the envelope and wrote my name

1954
01:54:25,319 --> 01:54:27,079
on and gave it to the Pastor was like his

1955
01:54:27,199 --> 01:54:28,720
dad found a book and gave it back to me.

1956
01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:31,439
I was like, all right, man, it's for your son, man,

1957
01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:34,039
you know, And he just watching over his son and

1958
01:54:34,079 --> 01:54:36,720
stuff and not wanting him to get into anything crazy

1959
01:54:36,880 --> 01:54:41,479
like that. But it's kind of funny. You know.

1960
01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:44,039
Speaker 6: My dad kind of looked at me funny when I

1961
01:54:44,039 --> 01:54:45,880
told him I read the book. Kind I believed it.

1962
01:54:46,399 --> 01:54:50,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it's so fun With many preachers.

1963
01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:55,840
Speaker 6: It's funny they learn about it in college, but then

1964
01:54:56,880 --> 01:54:59,680
they're also taught that it's not true, but they have

1965
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:01,000
to you didn't know it anyway.

1966
01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:04,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's funny that there is a resurgence of it

1967
01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:07,159
now and so it's even more accepted. Like, oh, you

1968
01:55:07,239 --> 01:55:09,159
haven't read Ena, so you're kind of like on that.

1969
01:55:09,359 --> 01:55:11,199
You're kind of like on the fringe. If you haven't

1970
01:55:11,239 --> 01:55:13,479
read it, you never heard it en. Know, Man, that's

1971
01:55:13,479 --> 01:55:17,239
a that's like an elementary book truthers, you know what

1972
01:55:17,279 --> 01:55:20,000
I'm saying. So and like I said, pastors preaching out

1973
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:22,439
of it now and stuff, and they're like making mention

1974
01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:27,760
and reference learn about it. Yep, they're like I learned on.

1975
01:55:30,279 --> 01:55:32,359
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I learned about the Book of narch on

1976
01:55:32,479 --> 01:55:35,439
Ancient Aliens and then I looked it up that night

1977
01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:37,960
I read it. I mean that was about the same

1978
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:41,079
time thar shows I was watching. It was like the

1979
01:55:41,159 --> 01:55:44,560
beginning of my wife thinking I was crazy and then

1980
01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:47,960
not thinking that was so crazy anymore because she's ver

1981
01:55:48,079 --> 01:55:48,439
believing it.

1982
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:52,920
Speaker 5: Dude, you you know, you know the backlash I got

1983
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:57,600
bro going into you know, post line and doing interviews

1984
01:55:57,640 --> 01:56:01,079
and talking about aliens and interviewing people then, but like

1985
01:56:01,239 --> 01:56:03,760
it was the real deal and I had to I

1986
01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:05,920
had to reconcile that with my wife, and I didn't

1987
01:56:05,960 --> 01:56:08,000
want to tell her, and like, I feel like I

1988
01:56:08,079 --> 01:56:10,039
lost a lot of friends over that stuff, you know,

1989
01:56:10,159 --> 01:56:12,359
over just living my truth and what I believe in

1990
01:56:13,039 --> 01:56:16,760
and telling my wife. And I remember sitting her down

1991
01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:19,079
at dinner because she knew I was into it, but

1992
01:56:19,479 --> 01:56:21,680
to sit down and be like, hey, all right, this

1993
01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:25,920
whole alien thing and just like have the discussion with

1994
01:56:26,079 --> 01:56:29,239
my wife about the alien thing, you know, and uh,

1995
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:33,439
and I went outside, you know what it took. It

1996
01:56:33,560 --> 01:56:36,000
went out. We went in my backyard and we prayed,

1997
01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:39,640
and I showed her. I said, Father, will you show

1998
01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:42,479
my wife if these are you and and these are

1999
01:56:42,640 --> 01:56:47,159
the angelic heavenly hosts, the elohem, the Seraphim, the Cherubim,

2000
01:56:47,279 --> 01:56:50,920
the fire recurpents, will you show her? And he showed her.

2001
01:56:51,439 --> 01:56:54,560
They lit up the night sky man and it's it's

2002
01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:59,800
it's It sparks so much awe and wonder within you

2003
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:02,880
when you have those type of experiences. I had so many,

2004
01:57:03,239 --> 01:57:06,279
like not even on like I talked about, like when

2005
01:57:06,319 --> 01:57:08,159
we would go out, like and people would want to

2006
01:57:08,239 --> 01:57:10,760
drink or smoke pot or something. I'm like, no, we're

2007
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:13,279
not doing that. Like if we're gonna go out and

2008
01:57:13,359 --> 01:57:16,119
we're gonna make contact, we're gonna see something I don't

2009
01:57:16,119 --> 01:57:18,239
want anybody to say. Or you were drunk, or you

2010
01:57:18,279 --> 01:57:21,600
guys were drinking or whatever. And I don't smoke pot,

2011
01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:23,119
but some of my friends were, And I'd be like, Nope,

2012
01:57:23,199 --> 01:57:24,920
y'all can't do it. If y'all do it, we're not going.

2013
01:57:25,399 --> 01:57:27,960
And we'd go out and we'd take blankets and we'd

2014
01:57:28,039 --> 01:57:30,840
lay out under the stars all night and we'd gaze

2015
01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:33,720
into the heavens, dude, until we've seen something move. And

2016
01:57:34,079 --> 01:57:36,680
you'd just be gazing at stars, and all of a sudden,

2017
01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:38,600
one of them would move and they would take off

2018
01:57:38,640 --> 01:57:40,560
and fly to the other direction. You would think it

2019
01:57:40,680 --> 01:57:42,079
was a star, but it was something that was just

2020
01:57:42,159 --> 01:57:45,880
sitting there outside of the atmosphere, sitting there posed for

2021
01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:48,159
like an hour down so they'd take off moving or

2022
01:57:48,199 --> 01:57:50,520
you see one flying across the sky and then stop

2023
01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:53,920
and then go the other direction, and two or three

2024
01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:56,439
of them. Just crazy stuff I was seeing out there, man,

2025
01:57:56,800 --> 01:57:58,920
and it was blowing by. I thought I was going crazy.

2026
01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:01,039
I'm trying to reconcile it. Then I started seeing them

2027
01:58:01,119 --> 01:58:04,840
during the day, you know what I'm saying, So it

2028
01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:07,119
turned it got got really weird for me. And that's

2029
01:58:07,319 --> 01:58:09,399
that's how adamant it was for me to kind of

2030
01:58:09,399 --> 01:58:11,399
put my neck out there to say, hey, like I

2031
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:13,680
want to talk about this. I need to First of all,

2032
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:15,680
I need to find out what's going on, because something's

2033
01:58:15,720 --> 01:58:19,000
going on, and whether it's demons who are deceiving me,

2034
01:58:19,119 --> 01:58:22,439
messing with me. But I totally didn't believe that, but

2035
01:58:24,439 --> 01:58:26,760
just trying to trying to reconcile what was happening and

2036
01:58:26,920 --> 01:58:29,479
seeing crazy stuff out there, but it became more real

2037
01:58:29,560 --> 01:58:32,920
to me, like the scriptures did. It piqued my interest, like, hey,

2038
01:58:33,399 --> 01:58:35,560
this stuff is real. The saraphim are real. You know,

2039
01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:39,239
they're not fake. They're not in a theory or theology

2040
01:58:39,439 --> 01:58:42,079
or whatever. These dudes are out there, you know what

2041
01:58:42,159 --> 01:58:44,439
I'm saying. And it's awesome.

2042
01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:50,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love it, you know, Yeah, I mean I've

2043
01:58:50,079 --> 01:58:55,279
always well kind of felt like there was something watching

2044
01:58:55,319 --> 01:58:55,640
over me.

2045
01:58:56,199 --> 01:58:56,359
Speaker 4: You know.

2046
01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:01,119
Speaker 6: I've never seen any thing like that other than the

2047
01:59:01,159 --> 01:59:03,279
one time I saw the UFO. I did see that.

2048
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:06,560
Speaker 5: It kind of it kind of.

2049
01:59:08,159 --> 01:59:08,399
Speaker 6: Mind.

2050
01:59:09,159 --> 01:59:14,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, it kind of blew my mind because it was

2051
01:59:14,439 --> 01:59:21,039
such a thing that was so easy, and I'm like, man,

2052
01:59:21,159 --> 01:59:25,560
we're just living on It was almost symbolic for like,

2053
01:59:26,239 --> 01:59:29,560
like paying attention to the things above. Be focused on

2054
01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:32,319
the things above, because we live our lives and we

2055
01:59:32,359 --> 01:59:34,159
don't even look up and this stuff is taking place

2056
01:59:34,239 --> 01:59:36,920
above our heads like every day, like all I would

2057
01:59:36,920 --> 01:59:39,239
do is just look up and see all this stuff,

2058
01:59:39,279 --> 01:59:41,119
and I'm like, man, But in the midst of that

2059
01:59:41,319 --> 01:59:43,800
was a spiritual moment for me, though, because I'm praying

2060
01:59:43,840 --> 01:59:48,039
the whole time, I'm talking to God and singing worship

2061
01:59:48,159 --> 01:59:51,319
songs and like connecting with the Father, and then start

2062
01:59:51,479 --> 01:59:56,560
seeing crazy stuff in the night sky, you know. And

2063
01:59:57,239 --> 01:59:58,600
but it's like, you know what, this has been here

2064
01:59:58,680 --> 02:00:01,000
the whole time, and I've been too busy and worried

2065
02:00:01,039 --> 02:00:06,520
about myself and whatever my music or whatever the case is,

2066
02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:10,840
my life, making money, functioning as a member of society,

2067
02:00:10,840 --> 02:00:12,239
and I would have to a stop and look up

2068
02:00:12,279 --> 02:00:17,239
and the truths right above our heads. You know, I

2069
02:00:17,319 --> 02:00:19,800
believe anybody can have those experiences. I don't think that

2070
02:00:19,960 --> 02:00:22,159
it's like, oh, I'm chosen to see them because I

2071
02:00:22,239 --> 02:00:24,600
prayed and fasted, like that's what I did. But I

2072
02:00:24,680 --> 02:00:27,920
believe anybody can. There's, dude, there's people who aren't who

2073
02:00:28,359 --> 02:00:31,600
are like having all kinds of experiences out there. People

2074
02:00:31,640 --> 02:00:34,199
are going out there with night vision goggles and seeing

2075
02:00:34,239 --> 02:00:36,239
stuff out there in the nice sky that you can't

2076
02:00:36,319 --> 02:00:40,439
see with the naked eye. You have to have like

2077
02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:43,880
night vision goggles or even regular binoculars. You can see

2078
02:00:43,920 --> 02:00:47,159
so much more out there. And once the weather cools down. Dude,

2079
02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:50,359
it's been so long since I've had an encounter or

2080
02:00:50,359 --> 02:00:52,520
went out there and done that. Because once you have

2081
02:00:52,680 --> 02:00:54,319
seen so much, it kind of gets old for you,

2082
02:00:54,439 --> 02:00:56,199
or you figure out what do you do with this info?

2083
02:00:56,560 --> 02:00:59,920
Like what's the next step? You know, and it gets

2084
02:01:00,079 --> 02:01:02,880
it gets insane, man, it gets crazy, and uh, you

2085
02:01:03,000 --> 02:01:05,520
have to be able to be able to put the

2086
02:01:05,600 --> 02:01:08,680
info apply it to your life. Like whatever you're getting,

2087
02:01:08,760 --> 02:01:12,479
what's the point of it? Are you learning anything from it?

2088
02:01:12,600 --> 02:01:14,560
Or it's just vanity or you just want to know

2089
02:01:15,399 --> 02:01:17,119
part of it's that I want to know how the

2090
02:01:17,279 --> 02:01:19,680
universe operates, man, you know, I want to know what's

2091
02:01:19,720 --> 02:01:22,000
going on. I want the truth. And that's part of it.

2092
02:01:22,520 --> 02:01:26,319
Something's going on, whether it's not, whether it's advanced technology

2093
02:01:26,359 --> 02:01:29,760
from the government, or if it's really the angelic realms

2094
02:01:30,119 --> 02:01:32,279
above our heads, which which I believe.

2095
02:01:32,039 --> 02:01:36,479
Speaker 6: You know, Oh yeah, oh yeah, it's all part of

2096
02:01:36,560 --> 02:01:39,680
his creation. We're just trying to figure out a little

2097
02:01:39,720 --> 02:01:43,159
to explain it. And we can't, Yeah, because it's too

2098
02:01:43,920 --> 02:01:47,479
it's too unfathomable. We don't have the brain capacity to

2099
02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:51,479
understand how it really works. We don't try to just

2100
02:01:51,680 --> 02:01:55,600
make our little It doesn't it doesn't work.

2101
02:01:56,199 --> 02:01:56,439
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2102
02:01:56,640 --> 02:02:00,800
Speaker 6: I've been trying to look down or not, like trying

2103
02:02:00,840 --> 02:02:03,439
to imagine myself looking down on the world and seeing

2104
02:02:03,760 --> 02:02:06,079
everything that's going on all at the same time, you know,

2105
02:02:06,199 --> 02:02:15,039
and like the influence everywhere, like in the whole world

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at the same time. You can see things happening when we're.

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Speaker 5: Looking when we're talking about cancer and growth and stuff

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like that, and like algae and stuff like when when

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you look at I've even heard there's a there's a

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snippet of Joe Rogan talking about flying into l a

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from like coming through like Colorado and stuff and how beautiful,

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how green and lust it is. And then the flying

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into La and then even in like like uh, flying

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through New York and just it's a brown smoke. It's

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a smog above the city and the and the air

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tastes different and it smells different. It feels different, and uh,

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and and even like from from the satellites and seeing

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like the you know what I'm saying, the woods are

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changing colors from lush greens to brown, and all the

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pollutions and stuff like that. Seeing it from like an

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organism perspective of the planet being a living entity, and

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if you do back up, you see us as like

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almost as a cancer to the earth and killing the

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earth and building machines and technology and taking the blood

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from the earth to oil and depleting it from all

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of its minerals and things like that. And when you

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step away from it from outer space and you look

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at it and how cities look different, forests looks different,

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lakes look different. Now have you seen some of the

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pictures they got pictures of like ten year gaps on

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like some big lakes and rivers and forests and it

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all looked totally different. It look bad, man, it looks sick.

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And so it's almost like the planet of Mother Earth.

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It's just got a bunch of fleas on her and

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she's eventually you know, these hurricanes like shake trying to

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shake the fleas off, you know what, saying, get some

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of the best juju out of it. You know what

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I'm saying, trying to breathe, shake, shake the fleas off

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of her. You know, it's crazy, man.

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Speaker 6: It's also I thank this, you know, coming closer and

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closer to the times, like Jesus said, you know, it's

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going to be simulations all over and and just.

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Speaker 5: Wars and whole world storms, earthquakes and diverse places and

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all of that stuff.

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Speaker 6: Yeh, normal earthquakes were more and more volcano eruptions every year.

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Speaker 5: Dude.

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Speaker 4: I'm man, everything's just I'm tripping.

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Speaker 6: The Earth is trying to tell everything that it's about time,

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and you know that scientists are saying.

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Speaker 5: That's what the scriptures talk about. And I'm upset that

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is not cold yet. Man, It's supposed to be coldtober Man.

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Remember when I was a kid, Dude, I hate I

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02:04:54,239 --> 02:04:58,439
hate like on things on on Halloween Thanksgiving and Christmas.

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It not being cold out. I hate it being hot,

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like sweating hot and humid on Christmas morning or or Thanksgiving.

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02:05:07,039 --> 02:05:10,600
Like that's part of the memories, man, that the cool

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air and stuff, and we do we haven't been getting

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it every year. That's what I look I look forward

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to that if it's going to be if it's going

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to be hotter cold on Christmas, and I look forward

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to be cold and just that winter spirit, you know

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what I'm saying. And it's just like each year it's

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getting hotter and hotter and hotter. And whether that's a natural,

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02:05:27,640 --> 02:05:30,800
natural thing that happens, I don't know, but I don't

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like it whatever it is, you know what I'm saying.

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We had like three days of winter last year. Dude.

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Speaker 6: You know, I think it's a localized thing though, because

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there were other places that had the worst winter that they've.

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Speaker 4: Ever had, you know, yeah, I mean yeah, we were

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looking at the uh the weather is.

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Speaker 6: More unpredictable or following less and less of the patterns,

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I think, just because another way, guys just trying to say, hey,

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but you don't really know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just a couple, just a couple of states up.

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It's freezing cold right now. You know we're down here.

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The humidity in the south man, the mosquitoes.

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Speaker 7: Bro.

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Speaker 5: Man, it's like I don't like being outside. I don't

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02:06:10,279 --> 02:06:12,079
like going out there. I don't have a lot of

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02:06:12,159 --> 02:06:15,279
fun and unless I'm like preoccupied, but being out there

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02:06:15,319 --> 02:06:17,439
and we're in the woods too, like, come on, man,

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02:06:18,279 --> 02:06:21,680
it's crazy. Hey bro, I'm gonna go ahead and jump

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02:06:21,720 --> 02:06:23,479
off here. Man. Thank you for hanging out with me, brother,

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calling in and just hanging out for a little while.

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And I thank you guys for coming over last night.

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I had fun with y'all.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was fine again.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, get into some more video games with the family.

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Heck yeah, all right, brother, God bless me. Man, you

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guys have a good night, all right. Shalom shalom peace peace. Yeah. Man,

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02:06:45,800 --> 02:06:49,399
So with that, I'm gonna say shalom in peace everybody.

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You guys who are listening on the podcast, and people

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want to know how to call in when we go

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live and how we use these shows. I broadcast live

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on YouTube, but then I upload everything to the podcasting apps.

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Make sure if you're watching on YouTube, click that link

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YouTube can pull my channel again at any moment. I

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was like almost at nine thousand subscribers and they deleted

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my channel and wouldn't let me get it back, and

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I started over and they could do that again. And

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they've been giving me weird flags and stuff about the

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titles of my videos. We did a show was like

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yesterday or the day before, I think it was a

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02:07:32,039 --> 02:07:36,520
day before about sexual abuse and overcoming that trauma, and

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they flagged the video just because of the title sexual abuse.

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02:07:41,039 --> 02:07:43,760
They're flagging my title, my videos that have the word

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Jesus in it. Crazy stuff. They're not letting anybody put

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ads on it. They said it's not ad sensitive and

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like straight nothing crazy. And probably this show as well,

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the Genesis sixth conspiracy. I had the word Donald Trump

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in a video. Once I took Trump's name out of it,

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then they could then they monetized it. It's insane. So

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make sure if you're listening to this on YouTube, go

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all of this in the snap of a finger. They

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all this stuff, man, it's crazy. So I'm backing up everything.

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I'm backing up all my videos and the podcasting in

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link in the description. Thank you again to everybody who

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is supporting my work on Patreon, patreon dot com backslash

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Those guys are like die hard friends and fans, man,

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the stuff we were talking about tonight is in the song.

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We're talking about theosophy, Blovotsky, Theosophical Society. It's all in there,

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and I rob those words Jordan Maximus, Jordan Maxwell like,

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I mentioned all of it in that song. It's a

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really dope song. You can listen to it now. Head

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love each and every one of you, guys, piece peace.

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We'll do it again soon, so.

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Speaker 2: Much, so much.

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Speaker 5: Well, that does it for this episode, folks.

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Speaker 7: H