WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.520 --> 00:00:06.599 It's time for coffee and Company, fueled by Thorntons on 2 00:00:06.799 --> 00:00:08.400 Sports Talk seven nine day. 3 00:00:08.640 --> 00:00:10.679 Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think 4 00:00:10.720 --> 00:00:12.960 when we are get off our show. 5 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:13.880 Idiot. 6 00:00:14.080 --> 00:00:16.559 The kids are playing or trail off their countries are. 7 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:17.079 Screwing it up. 8 00:00:17.239 --> 00:00:21.000 Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play Inner Murals. They're 9 00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:24.640 supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not. Who's 10 00:00:24.679 --> 00:00:28.920 the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me? Now? 11 00:00:29.079 --> 00:00:30.239 Here's nick coffee? 12 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:47.200 All right, let's do the damn thing. Welcome in Coffee 13 00:00:47.240 --> 00:00:49.880 and company. Feel about Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven 14 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:54.640 ninety appreciate you hanging out with us on a cold Wednesday. 15 00:00:55.359 --> 00:00:58.119 I mean I kind of feel like I'm I'm I'm 16 00:00:58.119 --> 00:01:00.679 a wimp and I'm soft because I'm somebody that has 17 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:03.240 always claimed I really really like cold weather. I mean, 18 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:05.680 I don't like to be freezing, but the winter is 19 00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:09.280 actually a real good vibe for me. Don't mind snow. 20 00:01:10.120 --> 00:01:12.840 I'm weird like that. But today, if I mean today, 21 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:16.840 I feel like it's kind of the coldest weather we've had, maybe, 22 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:20.239 you know, since the summer came to an end. But 23 00:01:20.319 --> 00:01:23.280 maybe I'm wrong. Or maybe maybe I'm just weak and 24 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:27.439 I've gotten soft. But it's chilly out there and beautiful 25 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:29.560 though the sun being out makes it a lot better. 26 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:33.439 So all right, a lot that I want to just 27 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:38.400 jump into here because we are loaded today. As always, 28 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:41.159 that's what we do, and I guess I'll start with 29 00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:44.200 with last night's result in the Louisville basketball game. We 30 00:01:44.239 --> 00:01:46.200 did not have a postgame show last night, and I 31 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:50.319 will give you guys as best I can when I can, 32 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:54.959 what our plan and arrangement is for Louisville basketball postgame 33 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:59.519 shows this year, because you know, I know that you 34 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:03.560 got used to listening after every game, and you know, 35 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:07.120 I don't know how great this season is going to go, 36 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:09.680 but I know it's going to be a lot better 37 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:11.599 than the last two years. Two years when we did 38 00:02:11.639 --> 00:02:14.240 postgame shows and you know, it was like a funeral 39 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:17.800 every every time, seemingly, so you know things will be 40 00:02:17.879 --> 00:02:20.240 better this year. But we are I mean, I'll just 41 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:22.879 say it, we're really really thin right now when it 42 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:26.719 comes to those who can get us on the radio, 43 00:02:26.919 --> 00:02:29.599 and what I mean by that is those who can produce, 44 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:35.000 And there are different levels to being a producer and 45 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:38.000 a board op and I don't say that to like 46 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:40.479 say that there are some people that are, you know, 47 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:42.759 better than others. I mean, it's just literally, we have 48 00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:44.439 certain people that we hired to run the board, and 49 00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:46.280 then there are people who are part of who are 50 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:48.280 a part of shows and they produce and it's a 51 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:49.840 little bit more. They have a little bit more of 52 00:02:49.879 --> 00:02:52.639 a role, a little more involvement. We just, you know, 53 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:55.240 we're really thin right now. I think that's going to 54 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:57.280 change in the next couple of weeks, which will give 55 00:02:57.360 --> 00:02:58.840 us a better feel for what we can do as 56 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:00.919 far as scheduling. But you know, I don't want to 57 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:04.120 just act like I don't just ignore it and act like, yeah, 58 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:07.039 you know, we'll and it's not great to have the 59 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:09.039 shows and then all of a sudden just not do them. 60 00:03:09.400 --> 00:03:13.439 But last night we weren't able to Friday night, doubt it, 61 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:16.439 But maybe we will. But I'm hopeful that once we 62 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:20.599 get through Thanksgiving, we'll have a little bit more more 63 00:03:20.680 --> 00:03:22.840 bodies to utilize to you know, get us on the air. 64 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:25.879 But until then, you know, we'll work with what we can. 65 00:03:26.759 --> 00:03:31.599 So last night Louisville, I mean sloppy start. I mean 66 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:33.439 I did I don't want to start with something negative. 67 00:03:33.479 --> 00:03:35.520 Louisville did win the game, and it really you know, 68 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:38.039 I mean they won one hundred and sixty eight and 69 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:41.599 covered a thirty point spread overall, played well, but it 70 00:03:41.680 --> 00:03:43.759 was a slow start and I'm going to assume that 71 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:47.520 their slow start was based off rust. I mean, they 72 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:50.719 didn't play in a game for ten days, which you know, 73 00:03:50.759 --> 00:03:55.080 I know last week we talked about the the lack 74 00:03:55.240 --> 00:03:57.479 of home like that you want to you're going to 75 00:03:57.520 --> 00:04:00.360 go an entire month without having a home game for football, 76 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:03.560 and you know that can't be normal. The ten day 77 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:06.000 break there that also wasn't normal. There's some teams that 78 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:08.199 have played like five or six games in Louisville played 79 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:10.240 their third game last night, So I'm not blaming anybody, 80 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:12.560 but like if there is somebody that's kind of in 81 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:15.840 charge for that, I mean, I don't think that's the right. 82 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:18.560 I mean, I would imagine even coaches don't like that. Now, 83 00:04:19.319 --> 00:04:21.639 as far as football scheduling, I mean, I would imagine 84 00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:24.399 that the AC. You know, you're playing nothing but ACC 85 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:27.000 games for that stretch, So I'd blame it on the 86 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:29.000 ACC when it comes to football. But the ten days 87 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:32.040 without a game in November it was weird, and I'm 88 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:33.360 sure it was weird for these guys as well. I 89 00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:36.079 know they were practicing and you know, trying to get 90 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:39.199 better from that Tennessee loss, But it just seemed kind 91 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:41.800 of awkward to start the game yesterday. But once Louisville 92 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:43.959 got rolling, it really wasn't much of a game. They 93 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:47.600 win one hundred and sixty eight over Scott Davenport and 94 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:51.959 the Bellarman Knights, and I'm glad I talked about it 95 00:04:52.319 --> 00:04:54.600 a lot yesterday because it made it to where I 96 00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:57.439 didn't have to keep reminding myself throughout the game that 97 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:02.759 this is probably regardless of really what happened, actually not regardless. 98 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:05.920 The only scenario where you can really feel like you 99 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:09.480 took something valuable from this game would be that you 100 00:05:09.639 --> 00:05:14.120 either messed around and lost to Bellerman as thirty point favorites, 101 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:17.199 or you were challenged a lot more than you thought 102 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:20.199 you'd be. Like, that would be something that we'd have 103 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:24.160 to say, Okay, that's not good. But other than that, 104 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:27.560 any you know, a big time blowout like they like 105 00:05:27.639 --> 00:05:29.279 they did. I mean, I think last night they really 106 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:32.439 did all you can do in that kind of a situation. 107 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:34.399 So it wasn't going to be an opportunity to really 108 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:36.279 see if you got better from the Tennessee game, and 109 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:38.160 we knew that. I think the same thing could be 110 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:41.560 said for the matchup coming up on Friday with Winthrop. 111 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:44.399 But you know, it's an opponent you got to play 112 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:46.279 who's on the schedule, and you beat them about thirty 113 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:48.560 two points, just scored one hundred points yourself. You were 114 00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:50.079 short handed at that, which we'll get to some of 115 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:52.879 those injuries. The two injuries I should say that are 116 00:05:52.959 --> 00:05:56.319 you know something? We got a monitor. But it was 117 00:05:56.360 --> 00:06:00.439 one of those games where you wonder how much you're saying, 118 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:02.560 you know, how much of what you're seeing is it 119 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:06.079 about the competition you're playing. Let me give you an example, 120 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:11.279 like anytime you see an plus an impressive play individually, 121 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:14.160 you maybe worry a little bit about it being due 122 00:06:14.199 --> 00:06:16.959 to who you're playing, right, Like I saw some guys 123 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:21.879 out there, case in prior Chucky Hepburn, Terrence Edwards was phenomenal, 124 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:25.319 those guys making plays, and I'm thinking, Okay, that was 125 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:27.439 pretty impressive. I like, I like to see that. Let's 126 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:29.360 get let's get some more of that. But then you wonder, okay, 127 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:31.920 well were these guys only able to make these kind 128 00:06:31.959 --> 00:06:34.639 of plays because they were playing against Bellerin. And the 129 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:37.000 answer is we'll never know, Like you won't know until 130 00:06:37.040 --> 00:06:40.279 next week when they play a much better team, a 131 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:41.920 team that is going to challenge you a lot more 132 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:45.360 than Bellerman is going to. If it wouldn't have been Bellermant, 133 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:46.959 I would have said a real team, But that sounds mean, 134 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:48.839 and we don't know. We don't want to insult Scott 135 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:51.279 Davenport because they're a real team. They were without their 136 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:54.319 leading scorer last night. Uh, they they hung tough. I mean, 137 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:56.279 they just kind of got buried a couple of times, 138 00:06:56.360 --> 00:06:58.800 and even when they did make their own runs, it 139 00:06:58.920 --> 00:07:00.920 never was enough to really make it much of a game. 140 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:06.199 But to go back to, you know, the impressive plays 141 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:09.680 that you see from your team, your guys individually, and 142 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:11.839 then you immediately think, okay, well that was impressive, but 143 00:07:11.879 --> 00:07:14.160 should I be impressed because look who it's against. Same 144 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:17.959 thing works the other way around. Anytime somebody on Bellerman 145 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:22.399 makes an impressive play, you may be worry because you're thinking, okay, 146 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:25.759 that was a pretty good looking move. That was a 147 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:27.959 you know that guy right there that you know, give 148 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:30.000 him credit. But then you think, okay, well, if Bellerman 149 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:33.399 can do that to you, imagine what other top tier 150 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:35.560 teams are going to do when you play them. So 151 00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:38.120 that that right there is the reason why these games 152 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:40.639 for me are always just tough, you know. But I 153 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:44.279 feel like last night I knew going in not a 154 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:46.000 whole lot you really you're really gonna be able to 155 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:50.279 learn from from this this game itself. But again, all 156 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:51.720 you can do is play who was on the schedule 157 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:54.120 and they won by thirty points. Covers cover the bread too. 158 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:56.199 So you know, I. 159 00:07:57.879 --> 00:08:01.000 I know Pat Kelsey, he had a style, he has 160 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:05.720 a system that has been good to him at Winthrop 161 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:08.279 and at both Charleston. And I've mentioned this really since 162 00:08:08.319 --> 00:08:09.879 the Tennessee loss, and that is that you know, I 163 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:12.399 know that you you want to get into that, But 164 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:16.120 the Tennessee loss, I guess it doesn't prove that you 165 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:17.480 aren't going to be able to do, you know, to 166 00:08:17.720 --> 00:08:19.199 get into what you want to do as far as 167 00:08:19.319 --> 00:08:24.639 up tempo, a lot of possessions, a lot of threes 168 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:29.600 in rhythm, sacrificing on defense meaning taking chances on defense, 169 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:32.879 gambling a little bit defensively to where you you know, 170 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:35.799 you hope you can hopefully turn that into offense more 171 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:37.720 often than getting burned on defense. Like, I know that's 172 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:42.919 what you want to do, but after seeing Tennessee seemingly 173 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:46.120 stop you at that without a whole lot of I mean, again, Tennessee, 174 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:48.200 they're a tough nose team, that's what Rick Barnes does. 175 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:49.960 But you know, Tennessee, I don't feel like they even 176 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:51.840 did anything all that special. They made some tough shots, 177 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:55.320 but like from a defensive standpoint, I thought they just 178 00:08:55.360 --> 00:08:58.000 made Louisville look very easy to defend. Now, I guess 179 00:08:58.039 --> 00:08:59.759 maybe a really good defensive team can make it look 180 00:08:59.799 --> 00:09:02.679 like But last night I feel like I saw enough 181 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:07.159 from Chucky hepburn Case and Pryor Terrence Edwards to say 182 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:11.679 that despite the depth, those guys need to be on 183 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:16.279 the floor more than others at their position. I mean, 184 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:19.639 I think you're gonna need a consistent rotation in order 185 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:25.360 to get guys out there in rhythm. And really it's 186 00:09:25.399 --> 00:09:28.480 probably silly to do this because again, different worlds when 187 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:31.919 it comes to competition, comparing Bellerman in Tennessee. But even 188 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:34.039 early last night, when guys were being shuffled in and 189 00:09:34.120 --> 00:09:37.159 out at the very beginning of the game, I mean, 190 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:39.919 it was hard for anybody to really establish rhythm. Well, 191 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:42.519 once you started to see a longer stretch of play 192 00:09:42.559 --> 00:09:45.399 from the guys that came off the bench case and 193 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:49.279 Pryor rain Smith, then you started to see, you know, 194 00:09:49.440 --> 00:09:52.720 guys kind of find their groove a little bit. And 195 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:55.799 you know, to me, it's more the question I have 196 00:09:56.159 --> 00:09:58.320 would be and I don't know the answer to it, 197 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:00.840 and I'm sure Pat Kelsey would give an answer, but 198 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:02.879 maybe you know it's I mean, this is a learning 199 00:10:02.919 --> 00:10:05.000 experience for him too. He's figuring out what he really 200 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:08.559 has to work with. He's been coaching these guys in practice. Obviously, 201 00:10:08.679 --> 00:10:10.720 he's very familiar with them. When he recruited him to 202 00:10:10.759 --> 00:10:13.600 come join this team from the portal. However, you know, 203 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:19.039 his first instant, his first chance to see what happened 204 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:20.879 against Tennessee was when we all saw it because there 205 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:23.519 was never any real challenge there. So, look, you can 206 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:26.360 still be a team that utilizes depth. You can play 207 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:30.159 a lot of guys, but I think minute distribution, I 208 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:34.960 think you need to have a core a not necessarily 209 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:37.519 a five man rotation or a five man lineup, but 210 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:40.159 like probably six to seven guys that you feel like 211 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:43.000 more often than not, they're gonna end up having more 212 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:48.279 minutes than the rest of the guys that play. And 213 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:49.399 it's not to say that when you go to the 214 00:10:49.440 --> 00:10:52.120 bench you have some huge drop off, but I just 215 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:54.279 think he gotta find there may be somebody that comes 216 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:58.559 off the bench that from a production standpoint, can give 217 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:04.480 you as much as got starting. But are they somebody 218 00:11:04.600 --> 00:11:06.559 that makes others better? 219 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:06.679 Right? 220 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:09.919 Are they somebody that you know that can score on 221 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:11.480 their own. They don't need to come off a screen. 222 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:13.639 They don't need to be somebody that's scoring because of 223 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:17.679 the system that you're running out there. In fact, let 224 00:11:17.720 --> 00:11:21.279 me pull up the numbers here. I mean you got 225 00:11:21.399 --> 00:11:27.480 let's see a total of twenty six from Terrence Edwards Junior. 226 00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:30.120 Obviously he was phenomenal last night. Same thing for Caseon 227 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:34.120 Priory at twenty one night, I'm sorry, sixteen for Chucky Hepburn. 228 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:37.120 Javon Hadley chipped in with ten, same thing for James Scott. 229 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:39.799 So you know, I I don't want to say don't 230 00:11:39.879 --> 00:11:42.200 use your depth because I think that's what Pat Kelsey 231 00:11:42.279 --> 00:11:44.480 wants to be able to do. And utilizing depth, I 232 00:11:44.519 --> 00:11:46.080 think is one of those things that this team is 233 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:48.080 pretty damn good at the end of the year and 234 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:50.080 you feel like they're going to make the tournament safely. 235 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:52.399 I would say that one of those factors in how 236 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:54.279 they got there is the fact that they've been able 237 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:57.600 to utilize their depth. But I think you can be 238 00:11:57.679 --> 00:12:00.879 deep without literally just playing everybody that same amount of minutes. 239 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:04.399 And I know they haven't done that the entire year, 240 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:05.960 but at times, I feel like that's kind of what 241 00:12:06.000 --> 00:12:10.399 you're seeing. Okay, five in, five out, and sometimes that'll work, 242 00:12:10.519 --> 00:12:12.720 but I think other times, and even like last night 243 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:14.840 and even maybe against Winthrop, you may be able to 244 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:16.600 do that and still win. But I feel like you 245 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:19.279 should use these opportunities against these kind of teams to 246 00:12:19.399 --> 00:12:21.399 kind of figure out what makes the most sense as 247 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:25.080 far as how you're putting guys together consistently. And again 248 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:27.679 I think it's it's and maybe maybe pet Kelsey is 249 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:29.840 in total disagreement, and he you know, and and that's 250 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:32.679 that's his right. He he's the guy that's the head coach, 251 00:12:32.759 --> 00:12:34.600 and he knows a lot more about basketball than I 252 00:12:34.799 --> 00:12:37.320 than I ever will. But I just feel like you're 253 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:40.159 not gonna see guys as comfortable as you need him 254 00:12:40.200 --> 00:12:41.720 to be, and you're really not gonna be able to 255 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:44.759 get close to your ceiling if these guys don't have 256 00:12:44.799 --> 00:12:49.519 an established role to where, you know, night in and 257 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:52.799 night out, maybe outside of an injury or foul trouble 258 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:55.480 or maybe just some kind of a mismatch, they're gonna. 259 00:12:55.519 --> 00:12:57.960 They're gonna, they're gonna play a specific you know, maybe 260 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:00.279 not a specific amount of minutes, but obviously you know 261 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:02.159 where you're not just being yanked in and out all 262 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:04.399 the time because you're not getting the most out of 263 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:05.879 these guys you brought in. And some of them I 264 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:09.360 have talent now again seeing Chucky and Cason and Terrence 265 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:10.919 Edwards Junior go out there and do what they did 266 00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:12.480 against Bellerman. That doesn't mean that they're going to be 267 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:14.399 able to do it against teams like Tennessee or when 268 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:17.519 they play Indiana next week in the Bahamas. But you know, 269 00:13:17.639 --> 00:13:20.399 I think they've got a better chance of having you know, 270 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:23.720 big Knights offensively compared to the rest of the guys 271 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:26.000 on this roster that at times are getting the same 272 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:30.799 amount of minutes as them. So again, another guy I 273 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:32.399 want to throw out there, though when it comes to 274 00:13:32.559 --> 00:13:36.519 just somebody that I think the team's better when they're 275 00:13:36.559 --> 00:13:41.399 on the floor. I mentioned Chucky Case and fat as 276 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:44.039 they call him, Terrence Evers Junior, but also Rain Smith. 277 00:13:44.799 --> 00:13:49.639 I mean, I think things just are better offensively when 278 00:13:49.679 --> 00:13:51.639 he's on the floor. And it isn't even about him 279 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:54.360 making threes. Obviously he can do that. He's got a 280 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:56.960 real weapon there as a three point shooter, but like 281 00:13:57.039 --> 00:14:00.320 he understands facing a lot better. He just a good 282 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:02.759 feel for the game. And when it comes to defense, 283 00:14:02.840 --> 00:14:04.919 I mean, to be honest with you, he's he's no 284 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:07.240 more of a liability defensively than some of the other 285 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:09.799 guys out there. At times he's not a great defender, 286 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:11.559 but like, I don't think he's somebody that you got, 287 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:14.679 like you got to think about pulling him out of 288 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:17.799 the game. Is you know, because of defense specifically there 289 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:20.080 may be mismatches here and there, but there's also some 290 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:23.679 dudes on this team that that are playing similar minutes 291 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:26.240 and at times I worry about their defense. So again, 292 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:28.759 you went about thirty two points and now you got 293 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:31.000 you got Winthrop coming up here on Friday, and then 294 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:37.120 next week it it's your next big test. Now we 295 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:40.679 found out right before the game that you've got two 296 00:14:40.799 --> 00:14:47.240 injuries both could be pretty substantial. Trailra is out for 297 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:51.000 it sounds like about six weeks for a fractured arm, 298 00:14:51.960 --> 00:14:55.960 so it's just him healing and that you know, there's 299 00:14:56.039 --> 00:14:58.120 there's an expected timeline, but as far as you know 300 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:01.919 how long it actually takes, only time will tell. And 301 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:04.440 you know, I was really high on Trey Ora, really, 302 00:15:04.679 --> 00:15:06.279 I really, and I am. I still think he can. 303 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:09.600 He can do a lot for you. However, it was 304 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:12.080 never about production. Now he can stuff the statue, but 305 00:15:12.159 --> 00:15:15.240 you know it's really you know, he's a seven rebound, 306 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:20.360 four assist six points kind of guy, and you know 307 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:23.759 that's that's valuable to have. But you could probably get 308 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:26.080 by without him. Now, I do worry about the things 309 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:29.039 he really does. Well, that's where you're already lacking, and 310 00:15:29.080 --> 00:15:32.200 that is defense and rebounding. So somebody's gonna have to 311 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:33.759 step up in that regard. But he really, I mean 312 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:36.080 at times he's just kind of offensively taken up space 313 00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:38.840 out there and the defense isn't really having to really 314 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:41.879 having to account for him offensively, so he'll be missed. 315 00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:43.960 But it also, I think will give you a chance 316 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:45.200 to kind of get a better feel for what you 317 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:47.639 have because you're gonna have to play, you know, you 318 00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:49.279 don't have him, You're gonna play other You're gonna play 319 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:52.320 other guys, and others will probably share the minutes he 320 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:55.600 would be getting. Now, Korin Johnson is out with his shoulder, 321 00:15:56.159 --> 00:15:59.519 and it doesn't sound like there's really any indication as 322 00:15:59.679 --> 00:16:02.399 far is how long that could that could keep him out. 323 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:05.360 I mean, I don't I don't want to try to 324 00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:07.519 be a you know, body language expert here, but I 325 00:16:07.559 --> 00:16:10.039 didn't get the sense that Pat Kelsey felt super encouraged 326 00:16:10.039 --> 00:16:12.200 about it. But again, this first time we've ever heard 327 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:13.799 him talk about an injury, so it's tough to know, 328 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:16.559 like maybe that's just how he handles it. But Corain 329 00:16:16.600 --> 00:16:20.360 Johnson is somebody that, you know, when it comes to 330 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:23.600 just talent on this roster, he's one of the more 331 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:25.720 talented guys. He's a six Man of the Year from 332 00:16:25.759 --> 00:16:28.080 the PAC twelve a year ago and was a four 333 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:32.720 star recruit. So I mean, he's somebody that you're gonna miss. 334 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:35.080 I mean, and maybe he's backed by Friday. I don't know. 335 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:36.679 I didn't get the sense that would be the case. 336 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:43.279 But already dealing with some injuries here, so again front 337 00:16:43.320 --> 00:16:46.720 court play, physical, Like the things that worried me after 338 00:16:46.799 --> 00:16:48.960 the Tennessee game outside of what we just discussed, when 339 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:51.759 it comes to offense and finding ways to generate good 340 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:54.000 looks whenever a team's able to kind of get you 341 00:16:54.039 --> 00:16:56.919 in the half court and dictate pace. I mean, those 342 00:16:56.919 --> 00:17:00.039 are still concerns. And last night, even if they and 343 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:01.919 they did do some things that would make you not 344 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:04.519 as worried about that, but you have to consider the competition. 345 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:07.519 But rebounding. They outrebounded Bellerman last night. That's what you 346 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:09.599 should do. But rebounding, I think still could be a 347 00:17:09.640 --> 00:17:12.400 problem when you play bigger teams and defense. You know, 348 00:17:12.519 --> 00:17:16.599 I Bellaman's first two buckets, and it wasn't just these 349 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:19.400 first two buckets, but there were a few others where 350 00:17:19.440 --> 00:17:21.519 they just I mean they fled out, took their guy 351 00:17:21.640 --> 00:17:25.119 to the hole, and it was tough to see. I mean, 352 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:28.759 no offense development, but like if Bellerman's got guys that 353 00:17:28.839 --> 00:17:30.759 can just break you down off the bounce and go 354 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:33.720 get a bucket and it looked like you were in position, 355 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:36.319 they just were able to score on you. Again, no 356 00:17:36.400 --> 00:17:38.880 offense development, but like that has me a little worried 357 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:43.599 about when you play teams not named Bellerman. So all 358 00:17:43.640 --> 00:17:45.759 in all, I think it was a good night, but 359 00:17:46.039 --> 00:17:48.559 we knew going in that the next chance to really 360 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:52.279 see Okay, let's hope Tennessee ends up being real out 361 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:55.640 being a real outlier. We'll find out, I guess a 362 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:57.559 little more if that's the case next week when they 363 00:17:57.599 --> 00:17:59.160 take on In fact, a week from today, they're going 364 00:17:59.200 --> 00:18:03.400 to be taken on Indiana, so we shall see, all right. 365 00:18:04.319 --> 00:18:05.799 Coming up here on the other side, we were going 366 00:18:05.880 --> 00:18:08.079 to talk with the one and only Zach Barnett of 367 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:12.200 FootballScoop dot Com get his thoughts on this college football 368 00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:15.680 playoff race. I've been amused by the back and forth 369 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:18.119 for quite some time now, just because I think the 370 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:21.519 weekly check ins it's good for the college football playoff 371 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:23.839 because it just gets more people talking about it. But 372 00:18:24.240 --> 00:18:26.359 last night seemed to be like chaotic to wear like 373 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:28.960 I just wanted everybody to shut the hell up, Like 374 00:18:29.079 --> 00:18:32.480 I mean, I you know, but hey, again, the more controversy, 375 00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:35.240 the more arguments there are to be made with certain 376 00:18:35.279 --> 00:18:37.759 teams and conferences, the better it is for the product 377 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:40.680 as far as the lead up. But there's gonna be 378 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:44.240 some really upset teams that don't get in and it's 379 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:45.839 just gonna come down to what the committee wants to do, 380 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:48.240 so we'll talk about That was Zach Barnette football scoop 381 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:51.720 coming up here on the other side, and I got 382 00:18:51.880 --> 00:18:54.119 to talk about it at some point, like it pains 383 00:18:54.200 --> 00:18:57.119 me to say it, but Kentucky, I mean, they look really, 384 00:18:57.200 --> 00:18:59.839 really good and I don't like it. Mark Pope's got 385 00:18:59.880 --> 00:19:04.279 Aga team and again I don't like it. All right, 386 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:06.119 stick with us. 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