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<v Speaker 1>I love when I come into the studio in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning and I see Congressman Thomas Massy, followed by Judge Annapolitana.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, Congressman MASSI it's always a distinct pleasure to

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<v Speaker 1>have you on my program.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's great to be on your program.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know you want to talk about national debt

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<v Speaker 1>and continuing continuing resolutions and elect You have to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you at the outset, considering we are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>hearing from Judgment Poltano, not necessarily on this topic, but

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to approach the subject with him. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>Iran launched missiles at Israel. Now there's all this talk

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<v Speaker 1>about whether Israel is going to basically enter into a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a shooting war with the Iranians, go after

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<v Speaker 1>the nuclear bases, whatever, whatever the military strategy happens to be.

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<v Speaker 1>But Iran did go after Israel directly. So if the

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<v Speaker 1>United States were to somehow become a part of this

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<v Speaker 1>shooting war, would they not need maybe a declaration of

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<v Speaker 1>war or an authorization at least an authorization for use

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<v Speaker 1>of military force. Are they going to dust that one

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<v Speaker 1>off from back in ninety one?

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<v Speaker 2>What are we playing t ball here?

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<v Speaker 3>This?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm going to hit that one on. I know

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<v Speaker 2>you will listen.

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<v Speaker 3>The administration said, and this is Sullivan. He said, We've

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<v Speaker 3>made it clear there will be consequences, severe consequences for

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<v Speaker 3>this attack on Israel, and we will work with Israel

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<v Speaker 3>to make that case.

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<v Speaker 2>What the heck work with Israel? Excuse me?

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<v Speaker 3>The Constitution requires the administration to work with Congress. Yeah, like,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't just launch an attack on a sovereign country.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an act of war.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, some people say, oh, well, they can do whatever

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<v Speaker 3>they want as long as they don't declare war. No,

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<v Speaker 3>that's an act of war. And we haven't been attacked there.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there are accommodation in the nineteen seventy three

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<v Speaker 3>War Powers Act to respond to a direct attack on

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<v Speaker 3>America if they can't get a hold of Congress in

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<v Speaker 3>that period of time.

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<v Speaker 2>But there is no And some people wonder if that's

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<v Speaker 2>even concert.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I was going to interject, but go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to cover it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in the same spot there on that one, and

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<v Speaker 3>probably judge to Politano is well, but.

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<v Speaker 1>We're of like mind on this subject matter.

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<v Speaker 3>But let's say you go along with the premise of

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<v Speaker 3>the seventy three or seventy four War Powers Act. It's

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<v Speaker 3>even that acknowledges you can't respond to this with an

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<v Speaker 3>act of war from the United States. So, and here's

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<v Speaker 3>the thing. Congress is on recess right now. Everybody knows

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<v Speaker 3>Congress gets an August recess. I'm about to tell you

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<v Speaker 3>a dirty little secret. Every other year we get an

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<v Speaker 3>August recess and an October recess.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're not supposed to call it recess.

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<v Speaker 3>We're supposed to call it district work period. Let's face it,

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<v Speaker 3>it's October recess. And the reason you get it every

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<v Speaker 3>other year is the incumbents don't want to be stuck

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<v Speaker 3>in Washington, DC while the challengers.

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<v Speaker 2>Are running against them in the election.

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<v Speaker 3>True, so it's part of the incumbent protection package that

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<v Speaker 3>everybody gets in Washington, DC.

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<v Speaker 2>As you get October off to go campaign. And of

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<v Speaker 2>course we still get paid for October.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean having even on our books whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not it's constitutional that War Powers Act allows us to

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<v Speaker 1>immediately respond to attack on us. Doesn't that sort of

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<v Speaker 1>support exactly what Israel's doing, which is defending itself immediately

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<v Speaker 1>when they get attacked. I mean that you're supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, They're able to do that, and they need to

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<v Speaker 3>judge whether or not they need to get into some

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<v Speaker 3>kind of diplomacy with their neighbors. I mean, but here's

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<v Speaker 3>the thing. We don't need to be sending soldiers over there.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't need to be launching an attack on a

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<v Speaker 3>sovereign country if we're not attacked, and we don't need

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<v Speaker 3>to be spending money over there either. We're co combatants

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<v Speaker 3>honestly right now in a war with Russia from Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 3>If any other country, for instance, had supported let's say

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<v Speaker 3>al Qaeda to the extent, well, al Qaeda is not

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<v Speaker 3>a good example, but I'll use it. If any other

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<v Speaker 3>country supported a country that attacks the United States, we

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<v Speaker 3>would call them co combatants, and we are by that measure.

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<v Speaker 2>We are co combatants right now in a war with Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes we are.

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<v Speaker 3>And we should not become co combatants in a war

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<v Speaker 3>with Iran, either through financial and military support or through

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<v Speaker 3>boots on the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair enough, and that idea of funding leads us over

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<v Speaker 1>to the national debt and the continuing resolutions. You had

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<v Speaker 1>a brilliant plan to deal with this, which is due

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<v Speaker 1>a one year continuing resolution which would result in an

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<v Speaker 1>automatic one percent across the board cut com April. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was a brilliant strategy. Obviously they didn't go

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not only a strategy, it's signed into lawaw Yes, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I got them to put in law that if we

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<v Speaker 3>go past April thirtieth with the CR and I got

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<v Speaker 3>them put that in last year when they weren't thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about this year, then you get a one percent cut

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<v Speaker 3>to every discretionary program in the United States. So instead

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<v Speaker 3>of having a shutdown fight, you have a cut down fight,

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<v Speaker 3>a one percent cut down fight. On April thirtieth, well,

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<v Speaker 3>the Speaker of the House proposed, no, let's go to

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<v Speaker 3>March thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason they chose March is they didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>go past the Massy cut and his little clever little thing.

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<v Speaker 2>They do this every year, Brian.

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<v Speaker 3>They were going to attach this bright shiny object to

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<v Speaker 3>get conservatives excited so they could get their hands dirty

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<v Speaker 3>and vote for this thing, and then they were going

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<v Speaker 3>to take the bright shiny object off. The bright shiny

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<v Speaker 3>object was something called the Save Act. And I've voted

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<v Speaker 3>for the Save Act. By the way, the House has

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<v Speaker 3>already voted for the Save Act. It's sitting over the Senate.

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<v Speaker 3>It keeps illegals from registering to vote and voting. It's

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<v Speaker 3>got strict penalties if they tried to vote. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 3>it's already illegal form to vote. But this is sort

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<v Speaker 3>of a belts and suspender's approach and nothing wrong with it.

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<v Speaker 3>But they were going to attach that to the cr

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<v Speaker 3>which is all twelve appropriations bills and one steaming pile

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<v Speaker 3>of pooh. They were going to attach it to that

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<v Speaker 3>and make the steaming pile of pooh a good pile

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<v Speaker 3>of pooh. Well, the problem is they had no intention

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<v Speaker 3>to ever fight. And I called him out on it

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<v Speaker 3>about a month ago in a speech in Congress, and

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I refuse to be a Thespian in this

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<v Speaker 3>failure theater because they planned to fail, and there were

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<v Speaker 3>even conservatives going along with this plan that knew it

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<v Speaker 3>was going to fail. They there are rumors that Mike

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<v Speaker 3>Johnson had already told the senators, the Republican senators, that

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<v Speaker 3>they could strip off the Save Act when it got

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<v Speaker 3>over there, and that was their plan all along. I

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<v Speaker 3>called him out on it. They still tried to snap

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<v Speaker 3>the ball and run the play. But after I had

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<v Speaker 3>called him out on it enough, other Republicans joined me

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<v Speaker 3>to say, we're not going to be actors in.

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<v Speaker 2>This political theater.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that failed, and then what happened is exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what I predicted would happen. By the way, Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 3>retweeted or reposted my speech calling this all theater in

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<v Speaker 3>my predictions, and he said, I hope you're not right.

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<v Speaker 3>So to respond to Elon Musk, I went to Grok,

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<v Speaker 3>which is his AI system, and I said, is Thomas

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<v Speaker 3>Massey Wright about to Save Act on the CR? And

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<v Speaker 3>Grok gives like a five paragraph dissertation on why Thomas

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<v Speaker 3>Massey is probably going to be right about this theater,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I put that on my reply to Elon. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>at what's happened, As I turned out to be right,

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<v Speaker 3>We got a clean CR. By the way that I

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<v Speaker 3>made another prediction that it would end right before Christmas,

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<v Speaker 3>that it wouldn't go till next spring because we've talked

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<v Speaker 3>about this.

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<v Speaker 2>On your show, Brian.

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<v Speaker 3>For as long as I've been coming on your show,

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<v Speaker 3>which is at least twelve years.

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<v Speaker 2>Every year, every year, every year.

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<v Speaker 3>They do the same play Christmas, Christmas, Christmas Eves, shut

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<v Speaker 3>Down Panic because here's what they're doing. They're taking our

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<v Speaker 3>famili's hostage, the hot of the families of congressmen congressmen

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<v Speaker 3>in Washington, d C. On December twentieth, which is when

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<v Speaker 3>this CR expires, and they're gonna either put another worst

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<v Speaker 3>CR that's probably gonna have Ukraine and everything else attached

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<v Speaker 3>to it, or they're gonna do the full on omnibus,

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<v Speaker 3>depending on how the election comes out. They're gonna do

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<v Speaker 3>that on December twentieth, and the Congressmen they're gonna smell

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<v Speaker 3>that those jet fumes from DCA, the Ronald BrigGen Airport

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<v Speaker 3>and the combination of the fumes from those airplanes wafting

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<v Speaker 3>over to the Capitol and this CR expiring, then they're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna start chanting vote, vote, vote, and they will vote

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<v Speaker 3>for anything you put in front of them, because the

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<v Speaker 3>speaker always comes and says, doesn't matter who the speaker is,

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<v Speaker 3>they always say, if you vote for this, you can

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<v Speaker 3>go home and open presence with your family, and if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't vote for this, we're going to be here

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<v Speaker 3>over Christmas because the optics are bad. And just go

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<v Speaker 3>ahead and tell your families pack up those presents and

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<v Speaker 3>bring in Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 2>If they want to be with you at Christmas.

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<v Speaker 3>No, nobody's going to bring their family to DC over Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>So there, you're basically they're like the Grinch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, when I read that, the first person I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was you. I saw that. Oh no, late

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<v Speaker 1>December cut off that. You gotta be kidding me. This

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<v Speaker 1>is so obvious. It's a setup for the inevitable.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people call me, yeah, some people call me no

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<v Speaker 3>stratomis for predicting this.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reality is, Brian, we could go back.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot of work. God, yeah, we could go

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<v Speaker 3>back on your radio show. We could find clips of

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<v Speaker 3>me predicting this every year. It's not a prediction, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just how the swamp works and the uniparty works.

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<v Speaker 1>And guess what, They'll have twelve spending bills to do

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<v Speaker 1>next year with the deadline in the fall, and they

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<v Speaker 1>know that now, but they'll kick it around until late

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<v Speaker 1>September and then push back for a cr.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, Congress being surprised by the fiscal deadline of September

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<v Speaker 3>thirtieth is like a florist being surprised by Valentine's Day.

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<v Speaker 2>It happens every year. Prepare for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Read for it. College will bring Congressmanassy back. Apparently he

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<v Speaker 1>has some insight into the Fed's role in January sixth,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as a well at astute observation and easy observation.

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<v Speaker 1>John Carrey hates the First Amendment more we have Congressman

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<v Speaker 1>Massi after I mentioned my friends at twenty two three

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<v Speaker 1>on Route forty two between Mason and eleven, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the world is a dangerous place. Seems like it's getting worse.

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<v Speaker 1>So every single day at twenty two to three firearms

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<v Speaker 1>range of gun store, they're going to help you safely

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<v Speaker 3>This is fifty five karc an iHeartRadio station, Brian.

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas with Nostra Thomas. That'd be Congressman Thomas. I just

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<v Speaker 1>but here's the information, or provide the information of my

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<v Speaker 1>listeners and me. Congressman Massy, what were the Fed's role

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<v Speaker 3>Huh, Well, there were a lot of FEDS there on

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<v Speaker 3>January sixth, and they and they're call them confidential human sources.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we should call some of them agent provocateurs.

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<v Speaker 3>The Inspector General Horwitz, we had him in front of

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<v Speaker 3>a half years ago. He announced he was going to

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<v Speaker 3>do a report on the DOJ slash FBI's role at

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<v Speaker 3>January six preparing for it, and the day of it's

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<v Speaker 3>been three and a half years. It's become obvious they

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<v Speaker 3>are slow walking this whole report until after the election.

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<v Speaker 2>He admitted as much in the questioning.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you know, I didn't say this in the hearing,

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<v Speaker 3>probably about two hundred Feds there on January sixth.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my word.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's two ways to get at that estimate. Representative

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<v Speaker 3>Clay Higgins agrees with me. He got to that estimate

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<v Speaker 3>from a different direction there. You know, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of trials, a lot of cases where people are being

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<v Speaker 3>tried and put in prison for protesting that day and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe going into the Capitol. Well in their sealed cases,

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<v Speaker 3>but you can know some of this stuff sort of

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<v Speaker 3>in each little vignette they have to disclose how many

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<v Speaker 3>of those people were Feds. Well, you can take, let's say,

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<v Speaker 3>if there's an incident that involves the people, and three

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<v Speaker 3>of them are FEDS. You can extrapolate from the entire

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>The other way you get to a large number is

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<v Speaker 3>every every field office, every FBI field office in the

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<v Speaker 3>United States had people in chat rooms in every region

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<v Speaker 3>of the country trying to infiltrate and in some cases,

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<v Speaker 3>like if you follow what happened with the Governor Whitmer kidnapping,

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<v Speaker 3>fed napping, let's call it, where they there were more

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<v Speaker 3>there were more FBI people than there were actual you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Defendants, like engaging in entrapment effort correct entrapment.

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<v Speaker 3>Half of the people in the Governor Whitmer case got

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<v Speaker 3>should be of defense for some of these people in

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<v Speaker 3>January sixth, But every field office had people already in

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<v Speaker 3>you know, November, December working on.

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<v Speaker 2>This, and they sent those people to DC. So every

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<v Speaker 1>So this was a core ordinated effort to create the

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<v Speaker 1>response that they obviously got. That's what they wanted to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe so. And then here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I was trying to get Inspector General in the hearing

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<v Speaker 3>to admit that his report is going to show there

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<v Speaker 3>are quite a few of these folks. And so one

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<v Speaker 3>of the questions I asked him was what's the total

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<v Speaker 3>amount of travel reimbursement for these informants.

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<v Speaker 2>That showed up?

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<v Speaker 3>Now the answer I think he was a little off

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<v Speaker 2>He said, I don't know the exact number. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but yes, there was reimbursements that I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So for him to admit there were travel reimbursements for

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<v Speaker 3>those people tells you two things. Number one, they were there, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>But number two, the defense that some people have put

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<v Speaker 3>out there that oh, of course there were informants, but

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<v Speaker 3>they were turned after the event, like after the event

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<v Speaker 3>in order to do a plea deal, they became informants, right,

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<v Speaker 3>But no, you don't if you're paying their travel to

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<v Speaker 2>These are not people that did a plea deal, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Plea bargain, uh pre existing relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes they were. They were full in the employee of

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<v Speaker 3>the government. Now the question is is who is slow

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<v Speaker 3>walking this thing until after the election. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I believe that Attorney General Garland has a hand in

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<v Speaker 3>this and I'm gonna you know, we're we're pushing him.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no there's no way they're going to release this

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<v Speaker 3>before the election. Yet, you know, I know certain things,

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<v Speaker 3>and I tried to elucidate that in this hearing, UH

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<v Speaker 3>to get it in a formal setting, and people are

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<v Speaker 3>starting to see that that's what's that's what's going on now.

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<v Speaker 3>If Kamala wins the election, I don't know if this

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<v Speaker 1>Out, I don't think we'll see it'll ever see the

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<v Speaker 1>light of day if that scenario unfolds.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, why does why do Inspectors General?

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<v Speaker 3>They're about I think they are about sixty of them.

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<v Speaker 3>There's one for every department. There's one for the Post office,

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<v Speaker 3>for instance. We're trying to get one for Ukraine, but

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<v Speaker 3>there was one for Afghanistan. Why do they do these

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<v Speaker 3>reports so you can learn and you can do things

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<v Speaker 3>differently next time. But I pointed out to Inspector General Horwitz,

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<v Speaker 3>it's one inauguration ago. It's been four years, and he's

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<v Speaker 3>not even going to have this out before the election,

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<v Speaker 3>and possibly not before the inauguration. So even in the

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<v Speaker 3>most benign a charitable interpretation of what the FEDS were doing.

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<v Speaker 3>They messed up, and we need to know how to

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<v Speaker 3>on this next January.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's coming chain.

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<v Speaker 1>You're responsible to hold them accountable. You're a representative, you're

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<v Speaker 1>one of the people's representatives, and that they refuse to

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<v Speaker 1>give information to the people who are responsible for oversight

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<v Speaker 1>is just to me baffling angering. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>FCC compliant way I can put it, pretty damn frustrating.

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<v Speaker 1>And it happens time and time again. And the other

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<v Speaker 1>component of this was like the attempted assassination hearings. You're

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<v Speaker 1>talking with someone who's got information. He has information. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just not in a final report yet. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>how about just giving us what you got subject to

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<v Speaker 1>revision when the damn report comes out.

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<v Speaker 2>I just m he says.

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<v Speaker 3>He says he's still waiting to see what can be

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<v Speaker 3>declassified and what can't. But the reality is probably he

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<v Speaker 3>already knows ninety five percent of his report can be

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<v Speaker 3>published in its form, So we should get that information now,

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<v Speaker 3>but we're not getting.

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<v Speaker 1>It well for obvious political reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>I will conclude, and here's the answer. Here's here's how

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<v Speaker 2>you would cut through all of this. We have the

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<v Speaker 2>power of the purse.

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<v Speaker 3>I have said time and again, if we would just

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<v Speaker 3>withhold funding for one toner cartridge at the FBI, if

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<v Speaker 3>one of their copiers went down because we cut the

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<v Speaker 3>funding for that copier, they would come to heal. But

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<v Speaker 3>instead we're building a brand new building. Why would they

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<v Speaker 3>answer us if we if we just keep funding them

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<v Speaker 3>and they can with impunity, you know thumb their no.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, there's no repercussions. Why would they give you the

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<v Speaker 1>information if it's bad for their political side of the

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<v Speaker 1>Ledger Congressman Thomas Massey judging and A Polton is probably

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<v Speaker 1>listening right now. Joe gave me advance notices.

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<v Speaker 2>You be on.

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<v Speaker 1>You know he's a big fan of yours. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're a big fan of his. He'll be on next.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for what you do.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, thanks to the judge. Look forward to him coming on.

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<v Speaker 3>I am going to do a tea party meeting tonight

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm going to a place called Bob's Service Center.

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<v Speaker 3>These people in Florence, Kentucky today just I'm visiting a

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be fun. They've been in business forever.

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<v Speaker 2>They're in Florence.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I hope you have a nice time there and

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<v Speaker 1>give them all my best and all right, what is

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<v Speaker 1>it again, Master Thomas Nostra, Thomas Noster, Thomas, Well, there's

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<v Speaker 1>two ways of slicing it on that one until we

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<v Speaker 1>talk again. It's been great talking. Keep up the great work,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. All right, thanks Brian folks, stick around, Judge

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<v Speaker 1>and POLTONA next fifty five KRC