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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, and welcome to another episode of Brav

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Vote We're Black and Little White. Today, as usual, we

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got our resident white Boy of the Year, Royan Bailey. Here.

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He's a dad. I think the last time I had

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you on it was pre baby, and now it's post baby,

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and you just celebrated your first Father's Day. You recently

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reached the top ten of podcasts point blank, which was

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Hella Dope to see because it's a lot. You also

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were on the Blue Carpet? Was it for the last

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Coultrees as well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yea, you have.

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Speaker 1: Been freaking killing it. So how are you? Are you tired?

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Are you good? Do you need a break? Or are

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you on like, oh where you gotta keep going?

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Speaker 2: No, you know, we talked about this.

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Speaker 3: I think yesterday is it's I think, I mean, I'm

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on a high in terms of my personal life, the

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professional life. It's great, but it's you know, it's like

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we do this every day, and I think we're coming

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off the Summerhouse Shenanigans. So I think there's like a

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natural deflation and we you know, I know you are

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like completely loving Love Island, USA, and for some reason

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it's not grabbing me and and that's like kind of

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I swear to God, it's like it's it's almost starting

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to make me crazy because I feel like, oh my god,

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that really I'm feeling my age and that's like sending

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me into a tailspin of depression where I watched a

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couple videos last night of people like speaking so passionately

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about Love Island, USA, where I was like, oh my god,

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I want to feel what you feel and I just

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can't feel it. And there's it's alarming to me as

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somebody that watches TV now for a living, I want

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to feel these things and all you have to go

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by is your internal temperature, and so you're I'm frustrated

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with myself, Like I also, I always leave room that

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I can be wrong. I'm wrong multiple times. So I'm

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trying to understand exactly like why I'm not feeling the

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emotions that are a lot of people are because I

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felt it for Summerhouse, and maybe I just shot my

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load with Summerhouse, where I'm like all my feelings are

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deadened now after that got released. I don't know, I'm

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you know, I'm I mean, I woke up today in

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a deep depression that like I had to like break

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myself out of and I think part of that is

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you know, I guess we.

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Speaker 2: Call ourselves creators. Is like, what are we doing.

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Speaker 3: We're just like fumbling around in the dark every day

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hoping that you are able to make yourself happy and

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that somebody can feel a little less alone based on

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what we're talking about. But sometimes, man, it is this

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is not like woe is me or woe is us?

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But sometimes it's really hard.

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Speaker 1: No, it really is, because it's also like what am

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I doing that actually matters? Like I'm having fun and

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I always say that even if I can make one person,

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one person's day for you know, a week, I've done

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my job, and I'm like, well, does that really matter?

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But then I think about when I listen to other

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peop people's podcasts and when I watch TV shows, and

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I'm like, this actually took me out of what I

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was going through. So if I could make someone feel

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half as much as what people make me feel, we're

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doing our jobs and like I said, you just literally

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you you have been doing so much professional wise, and

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then personally like you have a new baby. So I

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mean it's like a lot of emotions like that.

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Speaker 3: Also, it's like if I see my baby smile. That

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provides me of like two days worth of happiness. So

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it's like this really interesting balancing act on top of

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like the baby is obviously the most work of everything,

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but it's also the most gratifying right now. But like,

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to your point, it was so funny last night I

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was I was editing a video and I was working

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and I saw that on Netflix there was like this

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really kind of subpar Ben Stiller movie from two thousand

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and four called Along Came Polly with Jennifer Aniston, and

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I got that one. I got an email saying it

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was leaving Netflix soon, So like, why don't I put

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Speaker 1: A watch it?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's so silly and dumb, but at the same time,

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there's a supporting performance from Phillips Seymour Hoffman, who passed

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away God a long time ago now, and he was

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one of my favorite actors. And it's such a silly movie,

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and he commits so hard to his small part that

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it just makes me laugh because he's such a good actor.

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But I think that was even kind of thrown me

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into this thing of we talk about other people and

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their work, and I think sometimes that's starting to eat

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at me in little ways of like, well, when are

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you know, It's like and for you as well, like, man,

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what are we going to make some TV? When are

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we going to put out stories that we believe in?

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And I'm not God, I'm so sorry you guys. I'm

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not shading any.

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Speaker 1: Now, don't apologize on this podcast, like this is the

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place to actually like get it out, like I'm very much.

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I used to be an overshare but now I just

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haven't had time to overshare because the summerhouse. But don't worry,

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it's coming back now that I don't have as much

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stuff to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Now that your foot is off Amanda Matula's neck.

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Speaker 1: Right after forty days and forty nights, it's just like,

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go ahead say what you were saying.

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Speaker 3: No, I was just saying that there was there's there's

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like starting to be an itch of like making something myself,

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you know, of like even if it's like a grand

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failure of like you know, I was like, I love

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commenting on other people's work, but at the same time,

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I think also what would make great criticism is understanding

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the process of how these things are made. You know,

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I don't even necessarily mean a reality show, but I think,

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you know, anytime I get to talk to one of

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the creatives of these shows, you get a different perspective.

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Like today we woke.

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Speaker 1: Up with the news that to one of the producers

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of Rhode Island, which it was amazing because they said

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he said that basically when they were in it, you

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didn't know how good it was, and like, that's amazing.

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And then also you just talk to me, and that's

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so dope.

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Speaker 3: I mean, but Kay's and this is great for anybody

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listening to wonder about like what we do and what creators.

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So Walgreen's reached out and I've done this now a

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couple of times with advertising ities where they'll be like,

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we have a brand partnership with like PHAEDR Parks or

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Da Da Da Da, and you can get fifteen minutes,

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but you got to talk a lot about Walgreens. And

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my thing always is I don't get a dollar from that.

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So I already realize it's going to read as an advertisement,

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as it should. But my hope is I get to

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ask a couple of questions. Now, there was restrictions on

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that interview. I couldn't ask directly about WES, I couldn't

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ask directly about like there's restrictions on it. So then

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the goal is like, Okay, can I still have a

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somewhat nice conversation with somebody that I just want to

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talk to, Like it's from my experience as well, it's

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like I want to see what that what that's like

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talking to somebody that's all of a sudden getting in

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a bunch of partnerships based off of this insanity that

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just happened. But that's the other thing that sometimes I

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also know going into that it frustrates the audience. I

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can explain beforehand that this is a partnership, but they

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still sometimes feel cheated or you know, no matter if

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I assure like no money has exchanged hands, I'm always

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nine times out of ten going to take that opportunity

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because I'm a fan. At the end of the day,

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I want to to mea And the hope is that

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you can build up some sort of rapport where you

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do get to interview MIA without restrictions at some point, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a lot of I've never even gotten

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like a brand partnership interview. I think that that would

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be hella dope, And I think that that's good because

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you can not only like, not only are you helping

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this amazing person who we know and we love and

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we fell in love with and she was just so

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amazing and emotion like she wore her heart on her

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sleeve during the season where I was very much I

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don't know if I said it on your podcast or

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I think I said it with Leah. I'm like, oh

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my god, I hate that we have to literally talk

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about this Amanda West Sierra stuff. Because Mia has a

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solid storyline from obviously dealing with grief, dealing with a relationship,

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being new to the house, being a black woman, you know,

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her career, where she's going next. It's like you got

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to support someone who is getting, you know, the brand

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deals and all these great things that they deserve. Although

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they played a background character, they are no longer a

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background character because people want to know more about me.

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And yeah, it was for Walgreens, but you suck a

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few questions in there and you were able to feel Still.

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Speaker 3: This is to your point, though, is that I think

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the older I get, the more I do wanted to

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sit around and talk about our moms, you know, sit

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around and like, but you know, I did get to

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talk to her about that scene with the psychic and

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her mom. And you know what was so interesting is

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that she said, I thought I was going to be

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hated for that. I thought people were not going to

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be there for that. This is a show about partying

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your balls off on the weekends. And for me, as

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I get older that those like you know, like literally, yeah,

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sometimes you're not in the mood for that. These are

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supposed to be escapism shows. But I was so there

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for that, And I think it speaks to people that

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you know who have lost somebody and as you get older,

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you will lose somebody in your life. That to me

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was so extremely comforting. And you know, not every person

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on these shows can pull that off, but Mia, she

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seems like such a good natured person that that was

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so moving to me. And to me, that is worth

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so much more in Gold than West and Amanda in

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the But Wes and Amanda, you know, they matter so

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much in the immediate like right now. But the stories

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that Mia is telling, those are gonna stick with you,

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I think, and resonate, especially as you get older, for

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a long time to come. And so you know, it's

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like you're investing in these people. That's what a reality

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and your hope and like whatever you feel into these people,

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and you're like, don't let me down.

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Speaker 2: And that's the same thing.

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Speaker 3: With Wes, Like I really believe in West and I'm like, okay,

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shows you how deeply parasocial we are because you feel

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actual residual pain and you know you shouldn't be, you know,

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that's ridiculous, but the feeling is still there. And that's

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usually when you know that a reality show has done

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its job, is when you feel activated in some sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, rather it's positive or negative, like if something yes

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where you don't have you know, like Apathy's words, which

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it's not evoking any emotion to you right now. With

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Love Island, it's like the opposite of that, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, because they've only known each other for three weeks

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at this point, you know, like so I do, Like

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I was, I was listening to this brilliant woman talking

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about you know, how diabolical it was for the producers

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to show the men in casa and them getting like

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writhed on by the ladies, and you got to see.

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Speaker 2: In real time these women.

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Speaker 3: You know, become broken hearted, and yes to a degree,

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but you know what real broken hearted is is in

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a relationship for years and years, you know, there's something

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so much and I think maybe that just comes with

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age when you realize those things. You know, it's like,

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it's hard for me to be fully engaged on people

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that have known each other for three weeks, Like you know,

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it's like, yes, but I mean to this woman's point

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is that, you know, it is an example, it's a

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microcosm of what actually women go through of watching us

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men and let you down on a you know, a

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consistent basis. Now they're seeing this first part of it.

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are like, I'm miss her, I miss Trinity so much,

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you know, like they don't get to see that. Like

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men will always act in the moment, and nine times

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residual emotions that once you come out of your decades,

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you will start to it'll start to feel And I

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think women are so present in their emotions and their

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body in that moment because they're just you know, they're

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just I mean, just let's face it, they're smarter and

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they know emotional weight immediately, and I think men catch

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up to emotional weight.

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single year, like it hasn't really changed the formula. So

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that's why I'm surprised as to I think, maybe are

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you out growing it? Or is it the Summer House

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of it all? And I think it could be the

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Summer House of it all because you have seen this

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every year, and even on Summer House, it's like how

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long have these people known each other? Like, you know,

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when they introduced someone new? So I mean it's also

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like there's really good seasons and then there's really you know,

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okay seasons, and there's seasons where you see more producer involvement,

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and like that's either I don't know if it's positive

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or or negative, but I'm all in on Love.

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Speaker 3: The last two seasons of Love is I loved I

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mean I really because I thought they weren't there for

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the right reasons last season, and I loved it still.

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Speaker 2: I remember Ace going around, you know, like they.

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was so obvious that they were aware last season. But

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I thought it was still so enjoyable, and I think,

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to me, I think it comes down to casting. You're

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even like Ladies of London not coming back, you know,

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with us. Maybe it was low ratings, maybe it was

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Q score, maybe it was all of these things so crazy,

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but at the end of the day, it's like, well,

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I fell in love with these people. Like That's what

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I always preach on the show, is that it's got

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to start with casting. It's got to start with casting.

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some reason, it works like you got the right people there.

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So all you have to do is build a foundation.

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But you have to cast the right people. And if

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you cast the right people, man, just get ready. You

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get ready, because eventually it is going to pay off

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in it like Summer House, it's going to pay off

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in dibdends when they make a stupid move, and us

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as humans will always make stupid moves. And then you

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just have a cam. You just have to point and shoot.

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You're not gonna even have to do that much work

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if you've built the right foundation. And I just don't

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feel like love Island, USA. Every season is a gamble.

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Like they can build a house, they can think they

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can build a foundation, but if those elements don't interact,

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I mean that must be so exciting from a production angle,

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you know, like for them making it, they've got to

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be in the most stressful, thrilling summer of their life.

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But we will never hear their story because we're watching

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these goofballs, you know.

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Speaker 1: And the crazy part about Love Island is also like

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we're getting the turnaround time, like in.

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Speaker 3: Yes, didn't that that hours? Oh I geek out. That's

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the stuff I geek out about now. Like from a

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production standpoint.

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Speaker 1: I think what you are trying to reflect on, like

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as a creator is, yes, I do interviews and I

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love what I do and I want to continue to

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do what I do. But is my brand literally just

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getting to know other people? And I feel like if

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it is, that's also okay?

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Speaker 3: Oh god, my god. Everything I'm doing is oh, like

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it's more than okay. Like I never thought any of this.

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I never thought I would make a nor did I

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go into this trying to make a dollar thinking about

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making a dollar.

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Speaker 1: So but now that you have, it's okay for you

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to be like Okay, now, like I'm doing interviews, I'm

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getting dream guests, I'm doing this amazing thing. What's next.

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I think we're always thinking about what can we do

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that's different, or what is it that's my brand? What

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is it so bad?

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Speaker 3: It's good well to be honest, to be honest with you,

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And and maybe this is a fault that I should

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look into, is that I don't really think about my brand.

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I think about like usually like oh that sounds cool,

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or I'd love to talk to that person, or oh

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I get to read this book to interview this guest,

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Like that was the dream as a kid, like if

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I could get paid like watching TV and reading books

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and so in some weird way, that kind of has

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manifested to doing, you know, not purposely, but it's like

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that's what I do.

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Speaker 1: Now You're literally living your dream. And also, like you, you

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have an in person studio that you can go to,

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like you pretty much have a show like you are

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to someone in a weird way, that same person that

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maybe obviously not a kid who knows maybe there is

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just like some seven year old that's like I really

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dig so bad it's good with Ryan Bailey. I want

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to be like him one day, but like as someone

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who's younger, like like even me, just as a creator.

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I in a not a weird way, I do look

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up to you because it's like I remember when we

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all started like together, and like where you went and

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where you are now. It's just like so dope. So

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it's natural to wake up in a funk sometimes and

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be like, but I look up to you, and.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like I there there are so many things

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to you where I'm like you you have the hustle,

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you have the humor, you have the empathy, you.

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Speaker 2: Have the heart, you have all of these things. You know.

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Speaker 3: It's like you push when I usually I'll kind of

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get in my head and kind of take a step back.

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Or to me, I love putting out the show, but

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I don't love watch I don't love looking at myself.

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Like there are things of like if you see me

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posting a video on my Instagram, you'll know that that

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took a deep that was like a deeply painful thing

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like I had to make.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is deeply painful. I hate it.

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Speaker 3: That's the part I hate the having to shout yourself

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out and promote yourself. That is the for me, the

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cringiest part of this job because but at.

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Speaker 2: The same time it's the most essential.

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Speaker 1: It's essential because if you got to keep posting your clips, dude,

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and that's the thing I condition that I already had

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with you, but you've gotten better with it, like.

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Speaker 3: Yo, Madiza's gotten back. I I mean, we're we're push

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we're pushing forward. But it is interesting of how often

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I was like, you know what, now, don't make a

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clip for that. And you know it's fine because I

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thought in I think you're like, well, if I just

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do the show, that's enough. And that's the thing is

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that it's not enough because in this day and age,

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nobody is going to magically find you. You know, nobody's

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going to magically find you. And if you go online,

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you know, which we all do, often, you're just inundated

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with so many things, you know, like you see yourself

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again and again and again and again and again, and

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you almost get sick of yourself before you even put

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your put your foot in the game. And my thing

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is as being a straight white dude. I've said this

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many times on the show. I've seen my story, not

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my personal story of being a real like a reality

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star lover, but my story. I grew up seeing so

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many examples of where to me about fifteen twenty years ago,

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I was like, I'm good on straight white men's stories.

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I know, I get it, like I and I don't

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feel like, but what's interesting? And I think that's where

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an entrance point into reality TV is excellent because you

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get to see so many other people's stories, Like, oh,

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I want to because not only do you see how

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different they are, but also you see all of the commonalities,

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how alike we are.

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Speaker 2: And I think, you know, in this day and age,

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when we.

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Speaker 3: Were so like pulled apart by politics and life and

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reality not TV, but our actual realities, I think there

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is something so comforting about like we all do share

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like a basic language and I don't mean English, but

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I just mean in humanity.

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Speaker 2: And so that to me.

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Speaker 3: Is like I don't need I don't need to see

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like what it's like to be a white creator, Like

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I don't give a shit, So I like, and that's

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the thing, Like I don't want.

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Speaker 2: To be an influencer.

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Speaker 3: I just want to do my little thing and be

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able to like ask the questions I want to ask

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and make the silly jokes and I think you're you're

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a lot the same way, like we got into this

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to laugh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're doing this shit for the love of the game, truly,

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because we'll like put out all episodes with like important

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guests or even just like really good episodes when we

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talk about things that we're passionate about and we know

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that other people are passionate about it, but we don't, like,

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you know, promote as much or put as many clips.

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I'm getting better about that because I'm always like, oh

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my god, I hate the sound of my voice. A

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lot of people hate the sign of my voice, and

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I'm like, we're all in agreement on that, but I'm

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just like if I don't, And that's why it was

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so it was so taxing to me when I'm like, fuck,

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I might have to rebuild my Instagram alert you guys.

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I have not been able to tell you guys this,

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but my Instagram is back. We are so back, baby.

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Not only are we back, but I have sent many apologies,

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but I have about three hundred Tola Davis yet. Yeah,

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she hasn't responded. She didn't read she didn't read them.

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Speaker 3: She was like what if she was like, girl, you

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have put me through a week like She's like, last week,

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I've lost it and I've lost my entire fortune, lost.

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Speaker 1: My Facebook pro file voting for your fake fashion.

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Speaker 3: I need to go back to Shondaland to do a

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new series just to make money, just for you.

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Speaker 1: And then she just like put unread because he can

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do that. I'm like, she's reading them. But guys, we're

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so back. I'm so sorry that that happened.

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Speaker 3: And you explained it probably on your show, but you

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explained it on my show yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Is that why that? I mean, that is so important.

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Speaker 3: It's like some people might be like, oh, whatever, whatever,

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but it's like, that is your way of communicating to

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the outside world. That is your way of making people

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aware of what you do and who you are. And

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if you lose trust in these people that you've gained

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trust from, that's a big thing in doing what we

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do because you realize that every you.

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Speaker 2: Know, even if you're not intending to make a.

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Speaker 3: Mistake, every you feel very you feel like everything is very,

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very important when you do this job, and that you're

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like literally.

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Speaker 1: Is because people think it's for vanity reasons, like oh,

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you lost Instagram, who cares? It's just Instagram, and it's like,

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I'm not at the point where it's like Instagram is

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paying my bills every day, but it is like when

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I do get brand deals, it is with Instagram, and

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it is with it is with with with Threads. So

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I don't want to lose that connection. But also it's

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just harder to get in the room as a black

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creator and make these same connections because I'm seeing people

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who start way after me get way ahead of me.

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And I'm just like, Okay, that's okay because I'm used

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to working twice as hard for half as much. But

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then when you go and then you message people, and

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these people are like I would love to support you.

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All I gotta do is just like click a link

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to vote, and I'm like, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: You're goin to support you. That's easy.

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Speaker 1: Like I think the bitcoin was like one thing because

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I wouldn't do that. I would just straight up ask

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you for money. Patreon, dot com, slash bra while black,

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buy me a coffee slash blah blah blah blah. Thank

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you guys for that. Also, if you want my face

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and me and Aaron's face on your chest like it's

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on mine, Bravo, while black dot dash stream dot com.

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We got new straights up for the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Baby we are closer fans? Are we close to you?

475
00:22:08,519 --> 00:22:08,880
And Aaron?

476
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,759
Speaker 1: We're not close. If if I don't take off in

477
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,200
a year, I'm either getting married or I'm just gonna

478
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,039
do only fans, but you will never see me.

479
00:22:17,079 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 3: Like those usually are the two options. It's either get

480
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,920
married or only fans.

481
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:25,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but okay, we always get on here and

482
00:22:25,839 --> 00:22:28,279
like have existential crisis.

483
00:22:28,279 --> 00:22:28,759
Speaker 2: Sorry guys.

484
00:22:28,799 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 3: And by the way, I realize how fucking probably horrible

485
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,480
that sounds to the audience, because no it does not.

486
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,799
Speaker 1: Because my audience wants to know what it's like. They

487
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,960
message me and say, oh, I didn't know it was

488
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,440
like that. I didn't realize that. And also they don't

489
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,759
realize like how something simple as literally just liking a picture,

490
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:51,519
reposting or sharing something helps an influencer like me or

491
00:22:51,559 --> 00:22:55,279
you be seen and grow and and all that good stuff.

492
00:22:55,279 --> 00:22:58,759
Speaker 2: I think there's a fallacy where people think, oh, you

493
00:22:58,759 --> 00:22:59,759
you've you've made it.

494
00:22:59,799 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 3: You're good, You're good, and that really is like every

495
00:23:03,039 --> 00:23:06,119
day it's like starts. It starts brand new, and and

496
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,039
as you get into different rooms or bigger rooms. It

497
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,160
even it becomes more important because then you're dealing with

498
00:23:12,599 --> 00:23:15,119
you know, you have to not go up against but

499
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,720
you're getting similar guests of like Nick Vile or Heather

500
00:23:18,839 --> 00:23:21,000
mc donald or these people, and it's like, I do

501
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,440
not have that. I mean, I am not, I am

502
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,200
not anywhere near there. So like I am still to

503
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,920
me like an independent band, you know, like you are.

504
00:23:31,319 --> 00:23:33,319
Speaker 1: And you know what's so funny? Song was like, oh,

505
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,079
I can't wait to work for you one day, and

506
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,559
I'm like, babe, I can't wait to work for myself

507
00:23:38,599 --> 00:23:41,599
one day, Like what like that? It's not paying the

508
00:23:41,599 --> 00:23:45,880
bills totally, but we're on our way and I'm I was.

509
00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 3: Talking to Tom Hamlet, our buddy Tom Hamlets Hamlet, I

510
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,720
was doing summerhouse recaps and he was He texted me

511
00:23:51,759 --> 00:23:53,960
the other day and you know, it was so great

512
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,920
doing those summerhouse recaps with him and he just said,

513
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,160
you know, he's starting to be able to make money

514
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,400
from this. And there was nothing that made me happier.

515
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: That day because I think it's deserved.

516
00:24:04,039 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 3: I know he puts in hard work and you know

517
00:24:06,599 --> 00:24:08,759
that's when it's that's when it's great, is when you

518
00:24:08,839 --> 00:24:12,200
see somebody you believe in start to like break through

519
00:24:12,279 --> 00:24:13,920
because the talent is always there.

520
00:24:14,319 --> 00:24:16,039
Speaker 2: You know, the talent's always been there.

521
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,279
Speaker 3: It's like you just have to have the right opportunity

522
00:24:18,519 --> 00:24:20,720
to get more people to be aware of you. And

523
00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:23,000
that's that's the thing that you know. It's just like

524
00:24:23,079 --> 00:24:24,359
time and place sometimes.

525
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:30,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, so speaking of white men, tell me about this.

526
00:24:30,839 --> 00:24:33,160
I have not seen it because I haven't been online

527
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,720
today like that. I've been on my personal So apparently

528
00:24:36,839 --> 00:24:40,839
Wes has came out of the sewer and he's doing

529
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,759
the whiteboards with his boys.

530
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Soho Brody they do those whiteboard things

531
00:24:46,039 --> 00:24:49,039
where they go through reality TV, you know, dramas and

532
00:24:49,039 --> 00:24:51,359
stuff like that, and Wes has participated in those before.

533
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,559
Speaker 2: But you know, it's a fairly popular.

534
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,319
Speaker 3: I don't know what you call it, like sketch or

535
00:24:55,319 --> 00:24:58,000
not sketch, but like it's a fairly series.

536
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to say Abby Bonadiva's I think, yeah, yes, Abby,

537
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,519
she was the first one that I saw, like really

538
00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:08,640
do that with within the Bravo space. But I have

539
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,680
seen them over the years. You know, Sol Brody and

540
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,279
queens of Bravo would would share it sometimes. So what's

541
00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:16,119
going on with that?

542
00:25:16,599 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 3: So they released a two part Summer House breakdown of

543
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,279
this drama and Wes Wilson participates in it. Now, listen,

544
00:25:24,279 --> 00:25:26,000
a lot of people are going to be turned off immediately.

545
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,240
And I didn't walk away from those two things that

546
00:25:29,319 --> 00:25:33,119
I watched, going, oh man, he's al'ys forgiven anything like that.

547
00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:35,920
But I will say he's definitely answered more than he

548
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,680
did at the reunion at all. And a couple of

549
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,920
things that they actually got out of him was that

550
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,079
he was on xan x.

551
00:25:41,839 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 2: It wasn't just.

552
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,759
Speaker 3: Beta blockers, so I thought, justice for beta blockers, you know.

553
00:25:45,799 --> 00:25:48,240
In the second the second part of it, they catch

554
00:25:48,279 --> 00:25:50,599
him up in the xan X thing, which is great,

555
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,839
And then they do talk momentarily about the video that

556
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,440
got edited out of the Summerhouse reunion, saying when it

557
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,720
was a neighbor, it was a neighbor across the street.

558
00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:04,880
That video dem allegedly in a compromising position. They didn't,

559
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,200
they haven't seen it, but that's what made them rush

560
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,880
to actually put that statement out because they were caught

561
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,240
in a compromising position. And Wes is like, well, you know,

562
00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:13,839
you live in New York, you just you know, you're

563
00:26:13,839 --> 00:26:15,599
supposed to assume your name. You know, we all are

564
00:26:15,599 --> 00:26:17,079
on top of each other. You're not supposed to know.

565
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,799
It's like, yeah, no, shit, we're not supposed to By

566
00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:21,279
the way, that is illegal. What that person whoever did

567
00:26:21,319 --> 00:26:24,319
that did that? But that actually, you know, who knows

568
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,000
if that videotape exists, but he knows that they were

569
00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:30,039
doing something where it would make sense that something like

570
00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:32,720
that could have been videotaped. But there's a lot of

571
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,440
a lot of information in there, and he kind of

572
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,319
at the end, he says, I get it about not

573
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,519
returning to the summerhouse. I'm good with taking a to

574
00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:45,279
which is sports Lingo for time out out. I think

575
00:26:45,319 --> 00:26:47,880
he thinks he will be coming back to Bravo at

576
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,920
some point. I mean, it didn't seem like the doors

577
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,680
were shut in his head, but he was. It was

578
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,240
the very sand of all of it, all of like,

579
00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:57,759
I can't believe this blew up to this degree. Also,

580
00:26:58,279 --> 00:27:00,640
I mean, there was just so many little pieces like listen,

581
00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:03,240
this is what happens whether you like him or hate him.

582
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,599
And I think a lot of people hate him, which

583
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,519
is totally understandable. Is that it's good when you actually

584
00:27:07,599 --> 00:27:10,359
have a relationship like these guys already did with West,

585
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:11,720
They're able to get.

586
00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:13,519
Speaker 2: More out of him, and they call him like a

587
00:27:13,519 --> 00:27:16,039
piece of shit, like throughout the two episodes.

588
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 3: Now those are his boys, obviously, and it ends in

589
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,119
a very friendly way, but they you know, they call

590
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,240
him out on a lot of stuff.

591
00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: They do hold his feet to the fire.

592
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,559
Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's still obviously is a loving,

593
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,119
safe environment. But they're able Like if me or you

594
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,279
interviewed him, you're not going to get anything out of him.

595
00:27:31,319 --> 00:27:32,880
You know, you're not going to get anything out of him,

596
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:33,279
So you.

597
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 2: Need those two people.

598
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,319
Speaker 3: I will say, it is frustrating once again to have

599
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,119
him do it on platforms that are not Bravo. You know,

600
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,599
he's doing his friends a solid here because those videos

601
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,920
are going to be huge, But also he's still sticking

602
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,359
with he says with the Brionna Chicken Fries, saying todave

603
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,519
portnoy him that he told Brianna that they were hooking

604
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,079
up at the Super Bowl. He said, Nah, I was

605
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,359
probably drunk, and I think I said something like, you know,

606
00:27:57,039 --> 00:27:59,319
oh yeah, I think a man is hot. I think

607
00:27:59,319 --> 00:28:01,039
he's still lying about that part of it.

608
00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:02,319
Speaker 2: But he's saying, like, I.

609
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,319
Speaker 3: See, maybe she was confused, but I didn't say that

610
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,200
we were like hooking up. I think I was saying

611
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,920
she was hot and I wanted to make out with her.

612
00:28:08,319 --> 00:28:12,200
So I think there's a lot of guys fill within this.

613
00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:15,680
But but there was a lot of like, that's fair,

614
00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:17,880
that's fair, and you know, I get why you would

615
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,440
think that, and that's fair, and you know, but it was,

616
00:28:21,519 --> 00:28:24,480
it was. It was interesting. I will say, it is

617
00:28:24,599 --> 00:28:27,319
very funny. No matter what you see, it's like Sierra

618
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,319
is always in terms of the conversation surrounding that this,

619
00:28:31,519 --> 00:28:35,880
she always kind of ultimately always takes a back seat. No,

620
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,319
but she takes a back seat in terms of it

621
00:28:39,359 --> 00:28:43,160
always seems like they don't directly confront the Sierra of

622
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,839
it all, like they'll talk about everything that's happened.

623
00:28:46,079 --> 00:28:49,759
Speaker 1: They don't think that. And that's that is why so

624
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,440
many black women, especially rallied around her, is because they

625
00:28:54,559 --> 00:29:00,160
don't see why this is so important and why this

626
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:05,599
is such a big deal. Obviously it's a big deal

627
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:12,000
for anyone white or black. You are fucking your ex's

628
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,960
best friend, and your ex's best friend is literally fucking you.

629
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:21,359
That would hurt anyone, but especially after you already embarrassed

630
00:29:21,359 --> 00:29:25,519
her as a white man on TV one time, moped around,

631
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,079
made her the big bad wolf, and then again made

632
00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:32,599
her feel safe with you saying the words that I

633
00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:36,880
see you and turned around and did this. They don't

634
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,680
see that this is a bigger and it's not.

635
00:29:39,759 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 3: Especially after the conversation that they rehad this season at

636
00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:46,480
that dinner table. You know, that's the part where it

637
00:29:46,519 --> 00:29:48,839
comes up once again that he didn't even watch the reunions,

638
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,599
because they're like, was this the first time that you saw,

639
00:29:51,759 --> 00:29:54,319
like you knew those dick pics existed beforehand, and he

640
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,519
was like, you know, he's like, you even asked him,

641
00:29:56,599 --> 00:29:58,440
was it flaccid? And Wes was like that was that

642
00:29:58,519 --> 00:30:01,000
was in the reunion. They're like, yeah, you didn't fucking

643
00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:03,119
watch the reunion. But he was like, he says, he

644
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,680
always takes body shots and you know, he says, he says,

645
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,680
and by the way, you maybe you could interview Wes

646
00:30:09,759 --> 00:30:11,839
because you have something in common. He says, his Facebook

647
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,000
and Instagram got hacked.

648
00:30:14,839 --> 00:30:17,799
Speaker 1: I believe it was Amandan West behind my hacking. But

649
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,279
that's another conspiracy that we'll get into another day. Because

650
00:30:22,319 --> 00:30:24,000
I don't want it to get hacked again because I

651
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,960
think they were tested when I made the video the

652
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,240
first time. But we'll get into that another day. All right, Well,

653
00:30:29,319 --> 00:30:29,880
it's just him.

654
00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:31,599
Speaker 2: Will you watch this?

655
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it. But I think that as far

656
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,119
as covering it, this is the extent that he goes to, like,

657
00:30:39,319 --> 00:30:41,359
I don't want to give I.

658
00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 3: Don't want to I don't want to bring it down

659
00:30:43,079 --> 00:30:45,359
line for line like I would have during the season

660
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,640
or during It's like.

661
00:30:46,599 --> 00:30:48,079
Speaker 1: Now I'm it's not on Bravo.

662
00:30:49,119 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I do find my my biggest

663
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,680
geek or kink is information. I love.

664
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 3: I think we all love information, right like I want to.

665
00:30:55,839 --> 00:30:57,559
But at the same time, if you can't trust the

666
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,000
source no matter what information you get it, you know,

667
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,160
once that believability or that that trust is kind of

668
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:09,240
broken with the audience, it really is hard to accept

669
00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:12,079
a narrative that you've had more time to think out.

670
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: Well, the worst thing that I feel like I can

671
00:31:14,519 --> 00:31:17,640
do is give him exactly what he wants, which is fame.

672
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,759
And that's why he's continuing to do, you know, his

673
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,279
podcast and then doing other videos. So I think that

674
00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:28,720
that's also another thing why is that. I feel like

675
00:31:28,759 --> 00:31:31,119
I want to put and then even if Amanda does

676
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,640
like call her daddy or Nick viaio I, unless she

677
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,039
says something outrageous, like I will maybe like talk about it,

678
00:31:39,079 --> 00:31:42,039
but I'm not going to dedicate space and hold space

679
00:31:42,039 --> 00:31:44,319
for that. If it's not on Bravo. Now that in

680
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,680
the City reunion, that's when I'll get into it. But

681
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,559
when it's not on Bravo, I don't want you guys

682
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:52,599
to be able to get famous when you're not on

683
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:57,079
the show that literally built you and Amanda especially like

684
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,400
I just don't want them to be famous. I don't

685
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,160
care when they go to weddings. I don't care that

686
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,000
this bring each other's mouths. I don't care about anything

687
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,599
that has to do with with anything that's not on

688
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,480
the show. And I want to put this away. I

689
00:32:10,519 --> 00:32:13,599
want this to go away. I want Sierra to continue.

690
00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:16,279
And I'm like, also at a certain point, I'm like,

691
00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:19,559
I'm so tired of talking about the two most basic

692
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,160
white people I've ever seen in my entire fucking life,

693
00:32:23,359 --> 00:32:25,000
Like I live really, but you.

694
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: Talk about fame, and I think it's important to recognize

695
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,640
that there are different levels of fame. A Bravo Leberties

696
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,640
fame is very different than out like, you know, outward

697
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,319
outward fame and what's so great and so interesting at

698
00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:39,599
the end of the day, Arian and Sierra have been

699
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,279
able to break out of just Bravo Leberty fame, I

700
00:32:42,279 --> 00:32:44,119
would I would argue Page has as well.

701
00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:46,279
Speaker 2: Is that they are in you know, you talk.

702
00:32:46,359 --> 00:32:48,799
Speaker 3: We were just talking about being in different rooms as podcasters,

703
00:32:48,839 --> 00:32:50,880
you know, and like working your way up the last.

704
00:32:50,839 --> 00:32:53,079
Speaker 1: Page and handa were just on not suitable for work.

705
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Mindy Cayling Show.

706
00:32:54,839 --> 00:32:58,119
Speaker 3: They were not there now in different rooms, and they're

707
00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:00,640
probably dealing with a bunch of worries and insecure that

708
00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:03,440
they never faced before that we will never see. But

709
00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:06,319
it is a different conversation around these people. Now, Sierra

710
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,519
is gonna be on one of the biggest competition series

711
00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:11,720
of all time on Dancing with the Stars this season.

712
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: You're gonna she's getting offers. So she's probably getting.

713
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 3: Obviously flooded with offers because you can't turn on the

714
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,400
TV without seeing a Sierra Miller commercial, which is like,

715
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,119
good for you, but it's gonna be hard because then

716
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,079
you're like in a whole different echelon where you're now

717
00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:27,680
worried about your next choice because you know Bravo's always there.

718
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,519
They're gonna want to keep you in the stable, in

719
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:31,640
the family. But now it's like, how do I make

720
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,799
this last? And so, you know, hats off always to

721
00:33:33,839 --> 00:33:37,079
Ariono Maddox being able to continue this on for three

722
00:33:37,119 --> 00:33:42,039
seasons of Love Island USA and Book Saint Dennis Medical

723
00:33:42,119 --> 00:33:44,799
that show on NBC and Will Trent. So it's gonna

724
00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:46,880
be really exciting for me is when it starts to

725
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,759
break over into other pop culture that we deeply love

726
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:51,559
just as much.

727
00:33:51,359 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: As Bravo are.

728
00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: I would argue that especially now, like we just saw

729
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,960
See Your Last and Mormon Wise hasn't even been around

730
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,480
what three years.

731
00:34:02,759 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 3: And they started they started as huge influencers though in

732
00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:09,159
terms of like the amount of followers that they had

733
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:12,239
on TikTok before that show even started. I mean, Taylor,

734
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,119
Freakie Paul, it was, it was, I mean, they all

735
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:16,079
she had a bigger following than any of the cast

736
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:17,719
of Summer House, I believe at that point.

737
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, she absolutely started off like they started off with

738
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,440
like a lot and it's a completely different kind of

739
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,400
reality show that they did, which worked for them, but

740
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,920
for them to be able to be on Broadway and

741
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,400
to then be the Bachelorette and to be so famous

742
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,000
that even if you wwe the father of your child,

743
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:40,599
you still get to have a Bachelorette season. That is

744
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,480
insane for a quote unquote reality star or influencer. So

745
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:45,960
is it?

746
00:34:46,599 --> 00:34:49,639
Speaker 3: And you saw that news today that it's coming back

747
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,440
this summer, right, the Bachelor.

748
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like they're this big that it

749
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,039
doesn't even matter what they do, they can still you know.

750
00:34:59,199 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 2: Can I tell you what?

751
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 3: And I know this is not gonna be the popular

752
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,039
It's like it just shows you once again that really

753
00:35:04,119 --> 00:35:05,599
money makes the world go around.

754
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 2: That I don't believe that.

755
00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 3: I don't Oh, I don't believe they should have chosen

756
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,960
her as the Bachelorette in the first place. I think

757
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,719
she's still having to learn a lot and doing it

758
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,960
in the public eye. We've obviously seen where it's intensified

759
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,559
most situations in her life. I think she is somebody

760
00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:22,599
that I truly and I don't mean this is like

761
00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:26,159
I don't I dislike her. I worry for her because

762
00:35:26,159 --> 00:35:28,679
I think she already was dealing with some instability and

763
00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:30,519
I'm trying to be as kind as possible, and I

764
00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:33,000
think this kind of magnifying glass. I think you're really

765
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,559
you're really asking for trouble and you already saw it

766
00:35:36,599 --> 00:35:38,559
once and I know they put a big investment, but

767
00:35:38,639 --> 00:35:41,159
that's on ABC. Man, that's like you got to cut

768
00:35:41,199 --> 00:35:43,199
you know, like you should have known in the beginning

769
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,880
that you were gonna deal with this, and now you're

770
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,880
gonna put on this show where we're supposed to believe

771
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,639
in love, where we already know what fucking We already

772
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,880
knew the outcome of the Bachelorette at the end, and

773
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,239
we already knew she slept with what's his nuts like

774
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,440
directly after coming home from the Bachelorette. So I'm gonna

775
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,719
watch a whole season. It's like Love Island, USA. We're

776
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,960
asked to believe in the concept of love when we've

777
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,760
all been through so many relationships, most of us at

778
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,079
this point had our heart's broken, maybe broken some hearts

779
00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:10,519
out there. And then you're like, I'm supposed to like

780
00:36:10,599 --> 00:36:12,320
log in and like were like, oh, I hope she

781
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,519
chooses this guy. We already know which guys she chose,

782
00:36:14,559 --> 00:36:16,199
and we already know that she broke that dude's heart

783
00:36:16,199 --> 00:36:20,039
allegedly and went back to Dylan or Dakota Like so

784
00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:22,880
for me, you're like, you're just showing that we've just

785
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,679
got to make money.

786
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,199
Speaker 2: That's I'm sorry, guys, gonna be a hit.

787
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,679
Speaker 1: It'll be also yeah, And it's also crazy because during

788
00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:33,480
this entire time she has not reflected at all, like,

789
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:34,400
you know, she.

790
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,519
Speaker 3: Gets angry, She gets angry at the audience, she gets

791
00:36:36,519 --> 00:36:39,599
angry at her cast members, she gets angry for anybody

792
00:36:39,639 --> 00:36:41,360
that likes And by the way, if you're a normal

793
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,599
person and if you're her friend or you know, when

794
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,679
I will say, the people that in my life that

795
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,079
I trust the most are the people that have been

796
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,360
honest with me, did have been like hey man, that

797
00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:53,760
was not you know what happened here? That was not

798
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,280
a good luck you know, Like those are the people

799
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,920
you can really trust. The people that just blindly kiss

800
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,000
your ass like that's a I'm a dozen man. And

801
00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:04,000
the fact that she lashes out against people that that

802
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,360
should have questions about her and her mental health, to

803
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,559
me is like still shows that she might not be

804
00:37:09,639 --> 00:37:13,079
in a place where it's good to keep fully platforming

805
00:37:13,199 --> 00:37:15,960
at the highest level on network television and streaming.

806
00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, and we're we're seeing it and then

807
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:25,000
and then unfortunately, hopefully nothing happens to where it's like

808
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,000
I just I just want her and her kids to

809
00:37:30,199 --> 00:37:34,960
be okay. But I just don't think the spotlight, especially

810
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,519
the Bachelorette, would be for her like I would in

811
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:40,760
my ideal world, she would take a break from TV

812
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,760
in general, and then maybe if she actually reflected returning

813
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,159
to Secret Lives and Mormon wives, because I just don't

814
00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:50,519
even see the value of just watching this season just

815
00:37:50,519 --> 00:37:51,800
to fucking watch this season.

816
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: I know, I don't know.

817
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 3: And then it becomes a thing where like, well, we

818
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,000
got to watch it. It's like, yeah, I want to

819
00:37:57,039 --> 00:37:59,400
watch it. It becomes one of those things that you

820
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,400
almost feel like indentured to what You're like, oh, I

821
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,000
have to watch this, and you already know that there's

822
00:38:05,039 --> 00:38:07,119
something you know, like you're gonna have like kind of

823
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:09,280
a weird bad feeling about it because you're never gonna

824
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,480
purely be able to have escapism viewing because you're already

825
00:38:13,519 --> 00:38:15,480
gonna know the end. You know, you already know that

826
00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:19,320
the Titanic sinks. And I think that is something that

827
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,400
is really interesting in this day and age when we

828
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,639
have plat we've we've made famous so many influencers that

829
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,880
like the turnaround time on these shows. That's why Love

830
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,960
Island is kind of genius. How quick they turn this around.

831
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,760
We know so much about these influencers and what their

832
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,639
life is present day that now to take like to

833
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:37,280
go back in time a year where it's like it's

834
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,960
it makes it harder for reality television. That's why you

835
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,800
know with Love Island it's such a success because that

836
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,400
turnaround time is so quick. We said that like Bravo,

837
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,880
it's like seven months have passed before these seasons make

838
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,559
its air. You know, you've noticed their turnaround time is

839
00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:52,719
a lot quicker than it used to be. Like Orange

840
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,079
County came back so much quicker. Below Deck med came

841
00:38:56,119 --> 00:38:58,320
back so much quicker than last season. And I have

842
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,079
a prediction, not prediction. I think that's really what's happening,

843
00:39:01,159 --> 00:39:03,480
is that you're going to see these shows like be

844
00:39:03,679 --> 00:39:05,400
pushed to like, no, you got to bring it back faster,

845
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,880
bring it back faster, because you're competing with us. Being

846
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,320
so fascinated in these people that we keep studying them

847
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:12,800
after the.

848
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: Show wraps, like we go on redit, we find.

849
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,599
Speaker 3: We find their tax records, their homeownership, all of this

850
00:39:18,639 --> 00:39:20,519
shit exactly.

851
00:39:20,679 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's gonna be good or

852
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,159
bad for it, but regardless, guess what, me and Ryan

853
00:39:26,159 --> 00:39:27,280
will be here to talk about it.

854
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: And yeah, that thing.

855
00:39:28,519 --> 00:39:30,199
Speaker 3: But I you know, and I what I hate though,

856
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,559
is that I feel like and this is another thing

857
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,679
I go to war with myself over is that, you know,

858
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,199
as I age, like, I don't want to I don't

859
00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:37,800
want to yuck anybody's yum. I don't want to be

860
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,760
a fuddy duddy, a stick in the mud, because I

861
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,719
do appreciate, like, find joy wherever you can find joy.

862
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,719
I think this is just what I personally am feeling,

863
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,119
is that you know, that internal clock, which maybe it's

864
00:39:48,119 --> 00:39:50,960
broken now, but I just overall, I think it's good

865
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,639
for the network. You're gonna make a lot of money,

866
00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:55,280
and that's what this is about. Don't fool yourself. But

867
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,280
I get truly worried for Taylor. Frankie Paul down the line,

868
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,320
I don't think that's.

869
00:39:59,199 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: What I was saying. I'm like, I just don't want

870
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,960
anything like bad to happen, and like worse than it's

871
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,039
already already happened.

872
00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:07,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

873
00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

874
00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:10,159
Speaker 3: And that's the other thing. There's kids involved. You know,

875
00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:12,320
there's nothing more like alarming than when.

876
00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:14,639
Speaker 2: You realize the cast of the Valley has kids. When

877
00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:15,639
you're like watching, You're like.

878
00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm getting into this, and then they're like, gotta

879
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,519
go change a diaper and you're.

880
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,519
Speaker 2: Like, no, the.

881
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: Next generation cruise cruise.

882
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:27,599
Speaker 3: With the Nami rot now I'll You're like, what, No,

883
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,880
it's justly yeah, let me finish this fucking crab boil

884
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,559
before I go Laila get.

885
00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: Well, guys, you will not believe we came here today

886
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,280
actually to talk about Real Housewives of Atlanta.

887
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 2: Poor Atlanta. Man.

888
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 3: We I mean we really always like would end up

889
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,480
talking about ten things before we get Don't worry about.

890
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: It because that's how it is over here. Because over

891
00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:54,960
over I appreciate what you do so much because you

892
00:40:55,039 --> 00:40:58,840
literally go line by line, you have people's voices down,

893
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,719
you have like the detail that you pay to these

894
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,440
shows and also like to your views. We have just

895
00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:09,480
different styles because I care uch all you do. It's

896
00:41:09,519 --> 00:41:10,800
just that we have different styles.

897
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 3: So and and by the way, it's been so hard

898
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,599
to break myself up that habit, like once you start

899
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:20,199
working a certain way, when you start this, it really

900
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,920
becomes something. And I've talked with Sandra and like it's

901
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,000
really hard, Like every time I try to break myself,

902
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,800
I always think there's something so fascinating about just the

903
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,960
throwaway lines. Like I grew up in theater and like

904
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,719
studying like scripts and so always the script was like

905
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,599
the roadmap and it gave you all the clues everything.

906
00:41:37,679 --> 00:41:39,960
So for me, I'm still in this idiot mind frame

907
00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:42,519
of like you've got to look at every line, every

908
00:41:42,559 --> 00:41:45,159
line builds this something, and then you realize, you know,

909
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,000
I'm at this point now, like every line in the

910
00:41:47,079 --> 00:41:49,519
valley does not mean something. And so now I've gotten

911
00:41:49,519 --> 00:41:51,480
at least with the valley where I've broken myself of

912
00:41:51,519 --> 00:41:53,599
like line by line recaps, thank god.

913
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: But back in the you know, I still get trapped

914
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,000
in that a lot.

915
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: But that's what people appreciate like about your podcast and

916
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,039
your style of podcasting, is that you you've noticed these

917
00:42:05,039 --> 00:42:10,519
little human intricacies that make people unrelatable, relatable, or just

918
00:42:10,639 --> 00:42:14,000
entertaining in general. Meanwhile, I'm like, let's just talk about

919
00:42:14,039 --> 00:42:17,840
these next two episodes, because my audience has done their homework.

920
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,159
They are watching the shows along with us, and they

921
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:24,079
already know my style is not to go line by line,

922
00:42:24,159 --> 00:42:26,880
but just to talk about like the general vibe of

923
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,920
the show. So let's get into it. I mean, these

924
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,559
last two episodes we were not able to cover on

925
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,760
So Bad as School with Ryan Bailey, which I have

926
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,480
been on almost yeah, I think every week for like

927
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,760
like eight weeks now, like I can't even well, not

928
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:48,639
gonna make that joke, but anyways, so we have been

929
00:42:48,679 --> 00:42:50,480
talking about it and we're gonna get back on it

930
00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:53,400
because the reason that we did it on Ryan's show

931
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,159
instead of my show is because I want both of

932
00:42:56,199 --> 00:42:59,960
our audiences to co mingle and actually give at Land

933
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:03,960
to the spotlight that it deserves on this season. And

934
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,960
I also just wanted to talk to Ryan more often,

935
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,760
Like I would always ask you to come on the podcast.

936
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,159
Speaker 3: I think it's good for my soul to talk to

937
00:43:11,199 --> 00:43:13,800
you every week. I know I'll joking aside or there's

938
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:18,639
something you know it's good to invest in relationships or like,

939
00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:21,199
I just think it's actually something I look forward to

940
00:43:21,559 --> 00:43:22,760
and it doesn't feel like work.

941
00:43:23,079 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: And I also find it easier when I have someone

942
00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:27,920
else to talk to about the show instead of it's

943
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,519
just me for thirty minutes straight, like I feel like

944
00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:34,239
I I I like to go, well, what do you think? So, like,

945
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,840
let's just break down, like what's going on with the

946
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,159
cast in general? We're about to gear up for this

947
00:43:39,199 --> 00:43:42,719
trip to Scotland. But the ladies couldn't be in a

948
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,480
more fake ass place. That Shamia basically pointed out at

949
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:51,960
the end of the Newest episode. I think that right

950
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,519
now my sympathy really lies with Kelly, and I think

951
00:43:56,559 --> 00:43:59,519
that that is a surprise for me because I knew

952
00:43:59,559 --> 00:44:01,760
what was going going on in real time, because you know,

953
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,320
obviously the Shade Room, all these blogs, the Bravo blogs

954
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,639
report on what's going on with her and her husband,

955
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:12,039
but it's different to see it. In the past two episodes,

956
00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:14,519
we talk about how she's having to take her ex

957
00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:17,719
to court, she can't have her kids obviously on camera,

958
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,199
which we talked about earlier in the season. She's not

959
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,599
having to move out because her neighbor is a psycho

960
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,920
and I'm At the start of the season, we both

961
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,440
were like, how did Shemiah and Kelly even get this close?

962
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,840
And now we're seeing how these people are genuinely have

963
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,480
built a relationship off camera, so much so that Kelly

964
00:44:36,639 --> 00:44:40,679
is now moving into a home, a townhouse that Shemiah owns.

965
00:44:41,039 --> 00:44:45,280
What are you feeling about, you know, Kelly's whole situation,

966
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,719
and is she growing on you or do you feel

967
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:49,480
like we shouldn't.

968
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,039
Speaker 3: I've never disliked Kelly. I feel like I think sometimes

969
00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:55,719
it's hard and I know she wouldn't want this, but

970
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,360
sometimes sometimes you're feeling like there's like this element of pity,

971
00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:01,119
and I know she doesn't want to be pitied, but

972
00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:03,480
like she's in a she's in a dark place financially.

973
00:45:03,519 --> 00:45:06,000
But like some people like how she entered Real Housewives

974
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,519
of Atlanta where she bought her daughter what like it

975
00:45:08,559 --> 00:45:11,840
was like fifteen her birthday or something, and you know,

976
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,079
it was like it was all about how rich she was.

977
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,480
And so it's a constant reminder about, you know, be

978
00:45:18,679 --> 00:45:22,079
careful about what you are, I don't know, showing off

979
00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:24,119
and that's what kind of housewives are. So it's really

980
00:45:24,199 --> 00:45:26,079
interesting then to have to sit down with a financial

981
00:45:26,119 --> 00:45:29,639
advisor and realize how much he's spending on makeup twenty

982
00:45:29,639 --> 00:45:33,239
five hundred, hair three thousand, shopping and clothes eight thousand,

983
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,679
five hundred a month. You know, all of these things,

984
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,400
and then you know, Phaedra's having to take on her

985
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:43,880
case pro bono. She's getting a free townhouse from Shemia

986
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,440
and a lot of people are stepping up for her.

987
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: But you have to eat a lot.

988
00:45:47,519 --> 00:45:49,159
Speaker 3: You have to eat a lot of crow to be

989
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,239
able to say, yeah, I do need help. So it's

990
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,920
an interesting storyline because Atlanta especially seems to be a

991
00:45:56,119 --> 00:45:58,719
really all about wealth. You know, you see all of

992
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,800
them show off their call their wares, their rings, they're

993
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,039
all of this stuff. It's like, you know, Shamia and

994
00:46:04,119 --> 00:46:07,320
Kelly are complaining about where Cynthia put them in Texas

995
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,079
on that cast trip, and it's like, girl, you you

996
00:46:10,119 --> 00:46:11,920
can't even you gotta move out of your you gotta

997
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,679
stay with Shemia Shamia's townhouse. You shouldn't be complaining about anything.

998
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,159
And so it's it's really undercut. Kelly, She's gonna be

999
00:46:19,199 --> 00:46:21,760
have to be careful about how when she decides to

1000
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,199
step up and who she steps up to.

1001
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree that. Basically, what is that Bible

1002
00:46:27,639 --> 00:46:30,360
quote pride Go look before the Fall. It's because she

1003
00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:34,400
literally came on the show, gone in for Porsche and

1004
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,760
we can see that she still is like low key

1005
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,559
like a confessional warrior that you point out a lot

1006
00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:43,079
on when we do the recaps. She's a confessional warrior,

1007
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,400
especially when it comes to Porsche and I. It's not

1008
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,800
necessarily a pity that I feel. I just you know,

1009
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:49,440
just let that.

1010
00:46:49,519 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 3: Human here's making fun of her white T shirt and

1011
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,559
the talking head. Hey, bro, that's all she can afford

1012
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:59,760
take man Kelly's panhandling on these shows. Her tagline should

1013
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,039
be like I've shut up with gofund me, like like

1014
00:47:02,119 --> 00:47:03,079
come on, man.

1015
00:47:03,039 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: My god, I need to get you. And Kendrick and

1016
00:47:06,519 --> 00:47:10,679
Raven and Aaron, Oh my god, yeah, I think all

1017
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,679
of us we need to have like one like just

1018
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,480
crazy episode because it's gonna be so fucking funny. Kendrick

1019
00:47:18,519 --> 00:47:21,559
of the I cannot podcast with frequenc here almost weekly

1020
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:24,760
at this point, is just he's so funny and he

1021
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,559
notices like the craziest things. And if you've seen that

1022
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,239
viral meme of Wes his hat and it's like bigger

1023
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,960
than its head, it was Kendrick who photoshopped, not he

1024
00:47:35,039 --> 00:47:39,719
photoshopped his head, like the hat bigger. But yeah, so

1025
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:45,719
I'm really seeing Obviously, Shmiya and Kelly's friendship get closer,

1026
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,079
but at the same time, she is feeling like she

1027
00:47:48,199 --> 00:47:50,639
is on the outs with the group. She's constantly telling

1028
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,800
kay Michelle basically which I wanted to basically zoom in

1029
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,159
on here. Kay Michelle said, you know, they went out

1030
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,800
to the club me his mom was there for some reason,

1031
00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:03,639
Shamiya's mom is. She was like, I don't know, no mama,

1032
00:48:03,679 --> 00:48:07,280
that's like that. And then Samia basically told her, you know,

1033
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,719
no one wants me to be your friend, and kay

1034
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,400
Michelle says, basically, I was in tears by the time

1035
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,599
I went to the to the car. And that's what

1036
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,280
I get so confused when it comes to Shemiah talking

1037
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:26,119
about how these friendships are fake and she's being the

1038
00:48:26,159 --> 00:48:29,039
fall guy. But then at the same time you're whispering

1039
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,519
to k Michelle, who you know, has these insecurities about

1040
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:34,840
not only is joining this group but also like the

1041
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,719
Eight Girls of Atlanta in general.

1042
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:38,039
Speaker 2: But all that's.

1043
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 3: Based on just MIA's but see at the end of

1044
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,320
the day, that's based on Shamiah's insecurity. So she is

1045
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,199
using like a Jedi mind trick of like girl like

1046
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,119
everybody doesn't want me to be friends with you, when

1047
00:48:47,159 --> 00:48:49,960
in essence, Shemi is trying to ingratiate with ky Michelle

1048
00:48:50,119 --> 00:48:53,079
because she needs friends because Shamia is so looked down

1049
00:48:53,119 --> 00:48:55,960
on within that group. And so it all, you know,

1050
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,079
both of these ladies, they're coming from like insecure places.

1051
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,119
But you know, I mean Kelly's, I mean cay Michelle's

1052
00:49:02,159 --> 00:49:04,280
being lied to. You know, I don't think she is

1053
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,079
getting nearly as much shit as she's telling ky Michelle

1054
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:09,400
she is. I just think she's trying to be needed.

1055
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,320
Shemiah wants to be needed by somebody, and that's why

1056
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,840
her and Kelly work so well, because Kelly needs.

1057
00:49:14,519 --> 00:49:18,039
Speaker 1: Her right And it's just so weird to see this

1058
00:49:18,119 --> 00:49:21,599
because I just felt like Shemiah was in a different

1059
00:49:21,639 --> 00:49:24,119
place when we saw her as a friend of And

1060
00:49:24,159 --> 00:49:27,639
I'm wondering, is it the lack of candy that you know,

1061
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,679
is making her, you know, do this was candy? Like

1062
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,880
some it was candy kind of the the buffer that

1063
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,800
we needed before we got to like who Smia really is.

1064
00:49:39,079 --> 00:49:42,119
But we also get like these really heartwarming moments with

1065
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,800
Shemiah where she is, you know, trying to extend her family,

1066
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,719
you know, open her family she's being a good friend

1067
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,599
to Kelly. She is supposedly a good friend to ky Michelle,

1068
00:49:53,679 --> 00:49:56,960
but also feeding into her insecurities. So it's weird. It's

1069
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,159
just I don't know what to think of her. And

1070
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:03,559
it's weird because she went from a friend status to

1071
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,119
full time status, and whereas I know that Marlow flopped

1072
00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:09,320
as a friend. I just don't know what it is.

1073
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,440
It's like some people can go from friend to full

1074
00:50:12,519 --> 00:50:15,920
time and nail it, and then some others they flopped,

1075
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,920
but they flopped in like different ways. What do you

1076
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:22,400
think the difference between Marlow's flop from friends of full

1077
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,880
cast and to me is it feels like with the audience,

1078
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,599
if I'm checking the temperature of the audience, flop from

1079
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,280
friend to full cast, like what is.

1080
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 3: Well, well, what I think we mentioned I said this

1081
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,360
to you yesterday. It's like you're never going to be

1082
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,239
able to escape the shadow of Porsche. You're never like

1083
00:50:39,559 --> 00:50:41,760
you have that stink on you and the fact that

1084
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:46,159
Porsche will just not engage in other people's conversations about him, Like,

1085
00:50:46,159 --> 00:50:48,280
to me, that is like an even darker thing than

1086
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,599
somebody talking shit about you. Somebody that refuses to talk

1087
00:50:51,639 --> 00:50:54,519
about you and Porsia's star will always be on the rise,

1088
00:50:54,599 --> 00:50:57,679
whether you believe that it should be or not. And

1089
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,159
I think it's really hard, like once you have that

1090
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,360
that stink on you, it's hard to because I told

1091
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,440
you like I have a real soft spot for Shmia.

1092
00:51:05,559 --> 00:51:08,760
I really actually do weirdly like Shamiah when you know

1093
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,039
sometimes it might not be warranted. And I also feel

1094
00:51:12,079 --> 00:51:15,440
like I also have a soft spot for underdogs. And

1095
00:51:15,519 --> 00:51:20,039
I feel like man like Porscha's refusal puts such a

1096
00:51:20,079 --> 00:51:22,719
stink on Shamia that she carries it with her in

1097
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,199
every scene. And I think even if the audience doesn't

1098
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,280
recognize her or not, it permeates the audience where we're

1099
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,880
always like, oh God, like she's got the scarlet letter

1100
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,400
on her, you know, like she's never she's never gonna

1101
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:34,760
be like, Porcha's never gonna talk.

1102
00:51:34,679 --> 00:51:35,079
Speaker 2: To her again.

1103
00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 3: That's one of the main cast members. And without Porscha,

1104
00:51:37,559 --> 00:51:39,880
you don't have Phaedro without you know, it's like it's

1105
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,800
like this and it makes me sad because Porscha just refuses.

1106
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,280
But I think I think Shmia is more successful as

1107
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,199
a full time than Marlowe was is a full time Oh.

1108
00:51:50,199 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it definitely is more successful and it's

1109
00:51:54,039 --> 00:51:59,679
because and I think it might be because Mini wasn't on,

1110
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,920
so we don't have like, you know how Porscha's on

1111
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,960
for Shamia, meaning needed to be on for Marlow and

1112
00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:10,920
like maybe it would have been more successful. Okay, next Paedia.

1113
00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:14,039
We talked about Phaedia briefly, but I do want to

1114
00:52:14,119 --> 00:52:18,199
bring up that not only is Paga helping Kelly, like

1115
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,159
cause she's like I'm coming, you know, as a single mom.

1116
00:52:21,199 --> 00:52:24,199
I've been through this. I'm a lawyer. And they even

1117
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,280
referenced the famous win A case that Cynthia said, which

1118
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,320
is just like one of the most iconic lines out there,

1119
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,360
and like the only thing that I think about when

1120
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,239
I think of Phaedra's many because we'll talk about how

1121
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:40,159
gifted this woman is, like some other like jack of

1122
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:40,920
all trades.

1123
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 3: I would love to, you know, I would This would

1124
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,400
be boring as hell, and I don't want it on Atlanta,

1125
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,400
but I would love I would love to just know

1126
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,360
how she spends twenty four hours, Like I would just

1127
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,039
love to be a fly on the wall seeing like

1128
00:52:50,119 --> 00:52:51,280
is she like constantly reading?

1129
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,599
Speaker 2: Is she studying? Is she like how does she how

1130
00:52:53,639 --> 00:52:54,440
did cause I can't.

1131
00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 3: I can only do if I can put out a

1132
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,599
podcast a day, that's all I can do. You know,

1133
00:52:57,639 --> 00:53:00,199
like this girl's like learning how to play the Flute's

1134
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,119
like learning reiki.

1135
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,199
Speaker 2: She's learning spiritual healings.

1136
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,559
Speaker 3: On top of being a lawyer, on top of being

1137
00:53:04,599 --> 00:53:07,559
a mortician, on top of being like you're like, holy shit,

1138
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,320
how do you? How do how does one be this productive?

1139
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,679
Speaker 1: And I think that that would be a great because

1140
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,280
you know how everyone is getting into a vertical series.

1141
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,840
Bravo is also getting into the vertical series right now.

1142
00:53:18,639 --> 00:53:20,960
That would be a great vertical series of just like

1143
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,800
spend a day with a housewife, whether it's or it is.

1144
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,800
So they should do that for sure, because so many

1145
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,800
people would tune in because she is truly, like just

1146
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,800
so interesting and you know, check out the vertical series

1147
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,719
that Bravo is is putting out.

1148
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,159
Speaker 3: They want you like you know what, and Phaedra is

1149
00:53:37,199 --> 00:53:40,440
so esteemed that you don't even she doesn't even have

1150
00:53:40,519 --> 00:53:42,079
to have storylines about her love life.

1151
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 2: You know, it's like hands off. It's hands off.

1152
00:53:45,079 --> 00:53:48,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's like I want to know more about you.

1153
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,599
But even though I don't, I'll allow it because you

1154
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,320
are so involved and so funny and so likable, and

1155
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:56,440
that is your brand.

1156
00:53:56,679 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 3: And you see like you seem like you're open to everybody,

1157
00:53:59,039 --> 00:54:02,239
including Kelly, and you like you've thrown so much hi,

1158
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,280
you know, like Kelly, including the pandemic.

1159
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: Game, Jesse Solomon without me.

1160
00:54:08,639 --> 00:54:11,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, so no, I just think there's something to be

1161
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,360
said for somebody that still adds value, Like you know,

1162
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,079
Kyle on Beverly Hills, to me, that song has been

1163
00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:19,639
sung and if you're not going to you know, at

1164
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,440
least you know half the time, you don't even sense

1165
00:54:21,519 --> 00:54:24,079
that Kyle wants to be there. Where Like Phaedra, I

1166
00:54:24,119 --> 00:54:27,920
feel like she is actively listening, She's throwing in She's

1167
00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:28,760
and even.

1168
00:54:29,119 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: Here you know, cay Mischelle's with some of her interviews,

1169
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,880
she's like, actually I do like Faedro, like and she

1170
00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:37,760
and she didn't expect to like Fadro. And we also

1171
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,239
see her U, you know, go to Faye's house and

1172
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,639
like they go fishing and all that, and it's it's

1173
00:54:42,679 --> 00:54:45,079
it's so funny. But what I did notice is that,

1174
00:54:45,159 --> 00:54:48,880
you know, obviously Angela, she is moralizing her mom. We

1175
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,440
got to meet her brother in the last episode and

1176
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,599
they just talk about how sudden and how deep the

1177
00:54:54,679 --> 00:54:56,360
loss was, which I don't even want to get into

1178
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,840
because I can't imagine how hard that is. And it

1179
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,480
was just, you know, I was already a fangie, but

1180
00:55:02,599 --> 00:55:05,039
now it's also like she's my client. Get behind me.

1181
00:55:05,199 --> 00:55:07,800
You cannot say anything about Angela.

1182
00:55:08,119 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 3: I am going to say one thing about Angela because

1183
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,199
I you know, you know I love Angela. But I

1184
00:55:13,599 --> 00:55:18,199
will say I do not give a rip that Amari

1185
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,599
has not told the kids about her marriage.

1186
00:55:21,039 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do not care at all.

1187
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,199
Speaker 3: I'm almost like, well, that sounds like some of you

1188
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,400
guys should work out. I do not find the I

1189
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,719
do not find the dramatic all to that storyline, even

1190
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,280
though I feel a complete pull towards Angela Oakley. I

1191
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,400
think she I mean, you put her in a scene,

1192
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,480
she will deestimate well, I mean just without lifting a finger.

1193
00:55:39,559 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 2: She's so verbally amazing. But that Amari stuff is it's

1194
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:45,760
missing me complete.

1195
00:55:46,159 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: I think that they kind of like as like sprinkled

1196
00:55:48,519 --> 00:55:51,480
that in there somehow, because then we just randomly she

1197
00:55:51,519 --> 00:55:54,360
has a confessional and she was like Amara has a confessional,

1198
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:58,079
and she's in the famous Ariana dress that she wore

1199
00:55:58,159 --> 00:56:01,239
on the first episode of Island this season, and I'm

1200
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,760
just like, oh my god, Okay, this girl is a

1201
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,920
fashion girl. Like I noticed that immediately because I was

1202
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,400
so starstruck by that dress that Ariana wore. But what

1203
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,280
I was saying is that, you know, she had the

1204
00:56:13,599 --> 00:56:16,440
Bailey Hue and they had a basketball game and it

1205
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,599
was so funny and so endearing. You know, after they

1206
00:56:19,639 --> 00:56:22,159
had the whole skating rink party, and we're doing these

1207
00:56:22,199 --> 00:56:24,719
events to get these ladies closer, but there is still

1208
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,480
a disconnect, which is actually building up to a great

1209
00:56:28,519 --> 00:56:31,239
trip to Scotland. But what I did notice is that

1210
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,800
Apollo's son that he found out that he had when

1211
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,599
he was in jail, was actually at the basketball game.

1212
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,360
And what I'm seeing online is that, like, you know,

1213
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:47,320
Phaedia has been present in Apollo's son's life, and it's

1214
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,880
like this woman is just an angel. Like first of all,

1215
00:56:51,079 --> 00:56:53,920
I didn't even know Apollo had a son before, and

1216
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,880
apparently he didn't know you did you know about this?

1217
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 2: No? I didn't, No, I did not.

1218
00:56:59,199 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: He was on the episode and when they.

1219
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 2: No I knew.

1220
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 3: I knew this, But for some reason I didn't like

1221
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,519
put two and two together. I wasn't like, oh wow,

1222
00:57:06,599 --> 00:57:08,800
I because there were so many people in that basketball

1223
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,119
scene and like everybody brought.

1224
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: There exactly like Apollo. So when I saw that, people

1225
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,000
were like, oh, this is Apollo something that he didn't

1226
00:57:15,039 --> 00:57:17,280
know that he had, and he did. He recently did

1227
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,280
like an interview saying that Faeda has been in his

1228
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,840
life and I'm like, that's so crazy. But yeah, so

1229
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,519
that's Phaedra. Love Faedro. She's she's gonna be someone who

1230
00:57:26,599 --> 00:57:30,519
is really important to these next few episodes in Scotland

1231
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:32,719
when they played Traders, not just because she's gonna be,

1232
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,840
you know, the game master along with Porsche because they've

1233
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,079
been on Traders, both of them, but.

1234
00:57:39,119 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 3: Also wasn't good on wasn't good at the actual game.

1235
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,320
Faedro was excellent at the game.

1236
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's gonna be funny to see how

1237
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,239
they handle it. And also I know that Atlanta because

1238
00:57:50,239 --> 00:57:54,000
they're so whipped smart and they're gonna crack on how

1239
00:57:54,119 --> 00:57:57,760
Porscha basically got sent home like the third or fourth episode,

1240
00:57:58,159 --> 00:58:00,719
just like they cracked on Porscha. We find out in

1241
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,559
this well not find out, but they did.

1242
00:58:03,559 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: You watch that d Way interview with Portia.

1243
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: I didn't. Yeah, I'm saying it's.

1244
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: It's on my list to watch night, and.

1245
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: So was texting me.

1246
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,119
Speaker 2: Was the one that was texting me about it.

1247
00:58:14,199 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, I mean I saw the previews, so I

1248
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,360
immediately knew that I was gonna watch it. It's gonna

1249
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:23,840
be hilarious. But we also, oh my god, oh okay, Yeah.

1250
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,880
I was talking about how, you know, Phaedra and Allo Apollo, like,

1251
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,199
we don't see Apollo on the show, but we got

1252
00:58:31,199 --> 00:58:34,039
to see his son, so that was crazy. Angela, you know,

1253
00:58:34,079 --> 00:58:36,480
she's really We talked about how we don't really care

1254
00:58:36,599 --> 00:58:40,199
about this whole Amari storyline, but I do think that

1255
00:58:40,679 --> 00:58:43,920
Angela is probably just using, oh, you need to tell

1256
00:58:44,039 --> 00:58:49,760
the kids thing just for like herself, you know, like you.

1257
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,639
She's still hurt, which I understand. Any parent will be

1258
00:58:52,679 --> 00:58:54,840
hurt that your kid gotten married and didn't tell you.

1259
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,159
So that's what I got from that whole scene. I

1260
00:58:58,159 --> 00:59:01,119
don't necessarily care about it, but at the same time,

1261
00:59:01,519 --> 00:59:03,320
she can just do what she wants. And these are

1262
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,280
fuller episodes, so as long as it's not taking up

1263
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:09,840
too much time. Porsiche. We find out that Simons rescinded

1264
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:14,440
his sponsorship, which is hilarious because boy, you guys, you

1265
00:59:14,679 --> 00:59:18,159
just literally got kicked out of America and you've decided

1266
00:59:18,159 --> 00:59:20,960
to rescind your sponsorship. So she can't be a citizen.

1267
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,559
But she's like, I can travel there as as much

1268
00:59:23,599 --> 00:59:24,119
as I want.

1269
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like I don't need to be a citizen,

1270
00:59:26,159 --> 00:59:27,119
Like I'm good, Like I.

1271
00:59:27,039 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: Can basically as long as I can visit Nigeria because

1272
00:59:30,519 --> 00:59:33,159
apparently she's already fucked every niger And in Atlanta, so

1273
00:59:33,199 --> 00:59:34,800
she has to go to the home lansa figure.

1274
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,519
Speaker 3: I'm a shocked that what his name keeps popping up?

1275
00:59:37,559 --> 00:59:39,559
Like I thought it was gonna be my Sway all day. Yeah,

1276
00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:41,679
I couldn't believe that. Yeah, I thought it was Sway

1277
00:59:41,719 --> 00:59:43,920
all day At this point, I didn't realize he was

1278
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,079
still involved and to kind of being. So I'm like,

1279
00:59:46,119 --> 00:59:48,400
where does this end? Because right doesn't she in at

1280
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,400
the end of the day, choose sway she has?

1281
00:59:51,639 --> 00:59:54,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, the choice is clear, like they from Thanksgiving and on,

1282
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,719
they've had matching pajamas. I don't know where the next

1283
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,800
season of Love, you know, the Love Show on Bravo goes,

1284
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,599
because she was supposed to be on that, but yeah,

1285
01:00:05,639 --> 01:00:08,480
she asked Mike last episode, will you continue dating me?

1286
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,000
And she got really upset, And I was telling you

1287
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,679
that on your podcast, how I feel like Porsche would

1288
01:00:13,719 --> 01:00:15,920
be with Dennis in a heartbeat if Dennis would just

1289
01:00:16,039 --> 01:00:18,440
act right, and he just won't.

1290
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 3: He won't Osama ban Dennis where man takes some pride

1291
01:00:25,079 --> 01:00:26,440
like I mean, like I was like, take some pride

1292
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,440
I'm in like basketball shorts and like a dirty sweatshirt

1293
01:00:29,519 --> 01:00:30,079
was spit up.

1294
01:00:30,239 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 2: Take some pride in yourself.

1295
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: Man, No, we're not on reality. Okay, it was just

1296
01:00:36,039 --> 01:00:39,360
And also I didn't expect Porscha to get so I

1297
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,159
don't know if that's real real like you know.

1298
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 2: Well you know what I end.

1299
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,159
Speaker 1: You made me see.

1300
01:00:45,199 --> 01:00:47,239
Speaker 3: You made me think it was real because you were

1301
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,280
the one that was like, no Dennis would have been

1302
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,239
to one, So to me, that was real, Like how

1303
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:53,840
dare you bring this ring in my face?

1304
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 2: How dare you to me?

1305
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 3: I normally would have thought that was fake, but you

1306
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,679
made me reconsider and go, well, I mean there's some

1307
01:01:00,719 --> 01:01:01,679
real emotions there.

1308
01:01:01,719 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: She even says it though she's basically like, you are

1309
01:01:04,519 --> 01:01:07,440
the trauma, not the drama, Like she's like, and they

1310
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,119
go back to I gave you a child. I wanted

1311
01:01:10,159 --> 01:01:13,840
to marry you, like we tried this multiple times, and

1312
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:18,360
he had his own situation, you know that we don't

1313
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,639
see play out on screen because he's not a part

1314
01:01:20,679 --> 01:01:23,920
of the cast, but he's had girlfriends too, So it

1315
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,639
was just it was just very interesting to see that

1316
01:01:26,719 --> 01:01:29,599
and be validated that if she could be with Dennis,

1317
01:01:29,639 --> 01:01:32,199
she absolutely would be. And I've been telling people this,

1318
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:37,480
like from the freaking jump. I mean as far as

1319
01:01:37,679 --> 01:01:41,199
the ladies like as a group, I think what really

1320
01:01:41,239 --> 01:01:45,639
like stuck with me is Shmia calling out like the

1321
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,840
hug you know, ky Michelle is like, I don't want

1322
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:52,000
to and I love Kate Michelle's and I love her still.

1323
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,760
Ky Michelle's like, I don't want to bring up this

1324
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:58,760
conflict here because I would rather settle that like as friends,

1325
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:00,480
and that's just the kind of person that I am.

1326
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,960
Whereas Shmi is like, well, no, well, if you have

1327
01:02:03,039 --> 01:02:05,719
a problem, we should address it right here instead of

1328
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,800
just hugging and like going on this trip. What did

1329
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:14,519
you think of kay Michelle's way of handling things as

1330
01:02:14,559 --> 01:02:19,360
we navigate the season, because obviously she has been whipping

1331
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:20,760
her head like back and forth.

1332
01:02:20,519 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 2: Like Kate, Michelle is up and down.

1333
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 3: Like I sometimes find it hard to emotionally graph where

1334
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,079
she goes and what she feels because she's also like

1335
01:02:28,199 --> 01:02:30,960
hysterically funny, whip smart, but at the same time she

1336
01:02:31,079 --> 01:02:35,199
seems to get she seems to be upset or saddened

1337
01:02:35,199 --> 01:02:37,440
by so many things with this cast and then comes

1338
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,119
back and then gets upset again about something new, and

1339
01:02:40,239 --> 01:02:42,000
you know, I mean, listen, she has such a strong

1340
01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:45,079
presence for a first season cast member. I don't want

1341
01:02:45,079 --> 01:02:48,840
her going anywhere, obviously, But I don't know, I don't

1342
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:50,599
know which is it. I don't know if you are

1343
01:02:50,679 --> 01:02:56,320
this like completely strong woman or if you are one

1344
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,480
of the more insecure cast members, Like both of these

1345
01:02:59,519 --> 01:03:03,440
things tend to like be her at times. Like I'm like,

1346
01:03:03,519 --> 01:03:05,400
half the time, I don't think you really would give

1347
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,199
an actual shit, but you seem to take the greatest

1348
01:03:08,199 --> 01:03:11,960
offense to these things. And I'm like, wait, you let

1349
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,920
Drusidora get under your skin at all, You let Shemia

1350
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,079
get under your skin at all, Like, give me a break.

1351
01:03:17,079 --> 01:03:19,039
You've already gotten the lay of the land and realize

1352
01:03:19,079 --> 01:03:21,559
that you're oh, I mean, you're kind of considered almost

1353
01:03:21,559 --> 01:03:23,840
above them in some ways, and you're only on your

1354
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,920
first season, and so I don't know if she's just

1355
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,760
playing the housewives game and using it to her benefit

1356
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,639
or if these are all very real things to her.

1357
01:03:34,199 --> 01:03:38,039
Speaker 1: For me, I think it's just still her own insecurity

1358
01:03:38,199 --> 01:03:40,199
of being in a group of women since she's been

1359
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,280
scarred by being on Love and Hip Hop, but also

1360
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,800
again in real life when she was friends with that

1361
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,320
group of women who accused her of lying about the

1362
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:52,039
abuse that she received from that man. And now she's like, okay,

1363
01:03:52,239 --> 01:03:54,920
everyone is already saying because at this point there.

1364
01:03:54,599 --> 01:03:57,559
Speaker 3: We never even fully cleared up that storyline, like we're

1365
01:03:57,639 --> 01:03:59,800
still like like, okay, so what who exactly was a

1366
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,320
part to this? You said, Drew, Phaedra and Portia, what

1367
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:03,480
exactly happened?

1368
01:04:03,679 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 2: Like you know? And by the way, that this is

1369
01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:06,280
how good of a show it is that.

1370
01:04:06,199 --> 01:04:08,599
Speaker 3: Like we don't really get answers, they're not provided like

1371
01:04:08,639 --> 01:04:10,519
Summer House, but you continue to enjoy it.

1372
01:04:11,159 --> 01:04:14,199
Speaker 1: We might not even get into it really at the reunion,

1373
01:04:14,199 --> 01:04:17,840
but obviously it's gonna come up, but it's like speak plainly,

1374
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,800
like I feel like we're speaking in code and sometimes yes, And.

1375
01:04:21,679 --> 01:04:23,039
Speaker 3: By the way, do we have to shut down all

1376
01:04:23,039 --> 01:04:24,960
the blogs, like come on, like some of us have

1377
01:04:25,039 --> 01:04:28,039
not read all the thirty Atlanta blogs that everybody keeps

1378
01:04:28,079 --> 01:04:30,599
being scared of on this cast, Like somebody needs to

1379
01:04:30,639 --> 01:04:33,119
do a fucking vertical series just about the blogs because

1380
01:04:33,159 --> 01:04:37,280
I'm like it, sorry, I didn't read Reality Tea today,

1381
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,320
Like like, oh, how upset are you getting about these blogs?

1382
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:40,519
Speaker 2: You know?

1383
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,719
Speaker 1: And what is the truth? Like if if if some

1384
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,360
of it is a lie, or if it's all a lie,

1385
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,360
or if it's the truth, why can't you just like

1386
01:04:49,599 --> 01:04:52,559
be and why can't you just confront it, especially when

1387
01:04:52,559 --> 01:04:55,519
we know that you're not like uh someonet like a

1388
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,239
I don't know, just in the air like a Kelsey

1389
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,639
where you're out by the rest of the cast, like

1390
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,800
Rhode Island cast is like just so running laps around

1391
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,280
you're at Ashley or something. You are ka fucking Michelle,

1392
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:12,559
both in the scenes and in confessionals. You are so

1393
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,239
able to take on all these women and just walk

1394
01:05:15,559 --> 01:05:17,679
about your day to Michelle.

1395
01:05:17,239 --> 01:05:19,639
Speaker 3: Has a career that is not tied to reality TV,

1396
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,119
which is another strength that a lot of these women

1397
01:05:22,199 --> 01:05:24,360
don't have. You know. That's the other thing about Kave

1398
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,079
that's why it's so hard for me to really consider

1399
01:05:27,159 --> 01:05:30,840
her being a deeply insecure person in this group when

1400
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,440
I'm like, you have your your your dance card is full,

1401
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:36,960
like you you know, it's like this is probably great

1402
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,159
money and it's good visibility to a maybe a different audience,

1403
01:05:40,159 --> 01:05:42,079
and like I did not know Kay Michelle before this,

1404
01:05:42,559 --> 01:05:43,559
so that's great.

1405
01:05:43,639 --> 01:05:45,039
Speaker 2: But like you also have a.

1406
01:05:45,079 --> 01:05:48,199
Speaker 3: Talent, you know, you actually have a gift. You can sing,

1407
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,079
you can songwrite, you can all of it. You're not

1408
01:05:50,199 --> 01:05:53,599
using AI songwriting like Drew Sidora, Like you know, it's

1409
01:05:53,599 --> 01:05:57,880
like what like give a brief, Yeah you did to.

1410
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: Be I loves UBI by the ways, seeing all her movies.

1411
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 3: Which, by the way, did you see that, Like two

1412
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,480
of those Love Island USA cast members have two b.

1413
01:06:06,599 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: Movies, Oh, Bryce and Trinity. And that's why they're endgame

1414
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,880
and that's why he's literally the Jay Gatsby looking out

1415
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:16,880
into the lake and she is his green light. Yeah,

1416
01:06:17,199 --> 01:06:21,360
they belong together, and I am getting everyone's phone in

1417
01:06:21,639 --> 01:06:24,599
the vicinity to vote for them. They are my winners.

1418
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,920
That's just a Love Island thing. But yeah, I love that.

1419
01:06:29,039 --> 01:06:31,440
When when they put that out there, I'm like, another

1420
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,519
reason they should be together, and it was just the

1421
01:06:33,519 --> 01:06:35,920
most unpopular thing. But I'm just so glad that I

1422
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:37,480
can freely say.

1423
01:06:37,239 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 3: That because they're obviously going to do movie night on

1424
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,360
Love Island, USA, and I know they're going to like

1425
01:06:41,519 --> 01:06:44,800
annihilate the men deservedly so. But I do hope that

1426
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,280
there are some nice clips, like you know, Bryce being

1427
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,239
very sad that Trinity's not there. I hope there's like

1428
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,920
those moments as well, you know, like I think that

1429
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:54,199
would for them.

1430
01:06:54,039 --> 01:06:58,079
Speaker 1: And proticearing ones, especially for them because of the rest.

1431
01:06:58,280 --> 01:06:59,960
That's the only couple that I want to say to Yep,

1432
01:07:00,599 --> 01:07:04,079
Zach and Kata need to go like they they don't.

1433
01:07:05,119 --> 01:07:09,079
K kJ and and I O K.

1434
01:07:10,039 --> 01:07:12,639
Speaker 3: Hey see god, I was like what yeah, k C, Like,

1435
01:07:12,679 --> 01:07:14,519
obviously you're gonna have that on a movie night where

1436
01:07:14,719 --> 01:07:16,320
he's like a more attracted to t T.

1437
01:07:16,599 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's fine that he's more attractive, but my

1438
01:07:19,039 --> 01:07:21,119
problem is that he said that me and and I

1439
01:07:21,199 --> 01:07:24,400
have nothing in common. And it's just like you just

1440
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,639
told her that she was a blueprint to black women

1441
01:07:27,679 --> 01:07:29,800
and then also you read her a full letter of

1442
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,320
all the things that you have in common, only for

1443
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:36,320
you to say that you have nothing in common with her,

1444
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,599
and some people are like, well, he doesn't and we

1445
01:07:38,679 --> 01:07:40,920
did want him to explore when he went to cost

1446
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,400
some more. But you can explore, but you don't have

1447
01:07:43,519 --> 01:07:46,519
to shit on the person that you're with to explore.

1448
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:51,000
So that's just another thing. But oh, like lastly, Drew

1449
01:07:51,159 --> 01:07:53,880
Drew's who be Sadora? I think she is having a

1450
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:58,000
phenomenal season. She is having a good time in like

1451
01:07:58,119 --> 01:08:01,440
real life too, being like she's missing music, she's being

1452
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,199
on all these movies and now her and Porstia, which

1453
01:08:04,239 --> 01:08:06,239
I never thought that i'd see the day, especially after

1454
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:11,280
last season that they are kind of not only not

1455
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:16,239
not only like coworkers, but she's so into her company

1456
01:08:16,319 --> 01:08:18,479
that she wants to name a Drew line after her,

1457
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:22,399
and we saw that that came into fruition, So I'm like, wow,

1458
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:23,760
like I really she.

1459
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 2: Finally learned how to chowd eat chicken wings.

1460
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,319
Speaker 1: Yeah important, It took me a few years, but like,

1461
01:08:29,399 --> 01:08:32,520
I'm finally warmed up to you as a housewife instead

1462
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,319
of just an actress. It's just in my head. She's

1463
01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:37,760
just always been like juice a door from the game

1464
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,680
and juice of door from that stor even in Juice

1465
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,439
Door from the TLC movie.

1466
01:08:41,199 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 3: And I love I love that Ralph is not in

1467
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:47,199
this physically, right. I think that's a big I think

1468
01:08:47,279 --> 01:08:49,720
that's a big key, you know, like it's like I

1469
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,119
love not seeing him because if we were to see him,

1470
01:08:52,119 --> 01:08:54,439
we would focus on him, and you know, the whole

1471
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,439
thing is to go beyond this relationship and to show

1472
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:00,239
that she is a person rebuilding and you know, taking

1473
01:09:00,279 --> 01:09:02,359
the world by the balls, and if you had his

1474
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,319
like thirsty ass out there would become a whole different Drew,

1475
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:06,960
and like.

1476
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,560
Speaker 1: Her dating life too, Like we're talking about her dating life,

1477
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,039
we're also talking about a potential spin off that we

1478
01:09:13,079 --> 01:09:14,640
would watch from that hole.

1479
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, with forty people that work for her that you

1480
01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:17,920
can't afford.

1481
01:09:18,079 --> 01:09:22,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, Drew Drew the Door rules like it was amazing.

1482
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,520
So Drew, like, you're good with me. I can't wait

1483
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:29,840
for the Scotland trip. I really know that the focus

1484
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,560
is going to be on Shamia and Porsche and this

1485
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:36,840
is where they're gonna like come to blows, well possibly blows.

1486
01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:39,960
I hate to see that a friendship that has happened

1487
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:44,359
since they were literally little has blown up. But again,

1488
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,960
like bring it at me because I'm just enjoying this season.

1489
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,640
What are you most looking forward to with this trip?

1490
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,119
And also like as we are about to close out

1491
01:09:54,239 --> 01:09:55,199
this season.

1492
01:09:55,399 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 3: I think I mean with with these kind of trips,

1493
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,439
especially to see that it's like like the old Scooby

1494
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,199
Doo cartoons with like Scooby Doo meets Batman and Robin.

1495
01:10:03,279 --> 01:10:05,760
It's like you're seeing the Atlanta cast go over to

1496
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:09,680
the Trader's castle, like there's something innately hysterical about that,

1497
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,479
you know, And so you're gonna have the fish out

1498
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,279
of water stuff that you would see normally in these environments.

1499
01:10:14,279 --> 01:10:17,199
They're gonna be extra funny because they react, you know,

1500
01:10:17,279 --> 01:10:19,920
like just them reacting to new things. That's what makes

1501
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,239
an entertaining cast is that they can do drama, but

1502
01:10:22,359 --> 01:10:25,159
like just the inane bullshit you get like amused.

1503
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 2: By, like even that little basketball game.

1504
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,159
Speaker 3: At the end, I was kind of like enjoying how like,

1505
01:10:29,319 --> 01:10:30,720
you know, funny it was, and how.

1506
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:35,039
Speaker 1: The names like menyons and then are continuously talking about

1507
01:10:35,079 --> 01:10:38,279
her shoe size. And then Cynthia did an interview shout

1508
01:10:38,279 --> 01:10:40,600
out to Gavin with Gibson that's like, yeah, it's it's

1509
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:44,680
kind of offensive, but she keeps talking. They keep talking

1510
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,880
about Angela's shoe size, and I'm like, Cynthia, please, She's like,

1511
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:50,560
I also wear a size of shoes. And it's just

1512
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,279
so like these women are so funny and not so

1513
01:10:53,359 --> 01:10:56,920
quote sincere because I obviously hate sincere. We call them insincere.

1514
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:01,199
But it's the epitome. Yeah, I was about Topato.

1515
01:11:01,399 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what the epitome of this means?

1516
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 2: Truly? And what was the other thing he was like,

1517
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:07,720
Oh what did he say?

1518
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,640
Speaker 3: Uh? It was like being in what was the word

1519
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,600
for being he said to others something that was like

1520
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:13,720
completely he.

1521
01:11:14,279 --> 01:11:17,039
Speaker 1: I hate him and his analysis and the way that

1522
01:11:17,079 --> 01:11:20,720
he just thinks that he is so emotionally intellect but

1523
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,279
it's it's it's good TV to me. I think that's

1524
01:11:23,279 --> 01:11:26,600
also why I'm enjoying Love Islan. I don't know. I

1525
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,520
don't know. I just hope that you find some way

1526
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,800
maybe to come around. Maybe when they come from Cosla

1527
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:36,079
more back to the villa, you'll be more more invested.

1528
01:11:36,079 --> 01:11:37,239
Speaker 2: You know, I'll know it when I see it.

1529
01:11:37,279 --> 01:11:40,520
Speaker 3: And I did have that moment when that that episode,

1530
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:41,960
and it wasn't just because of this scene.

1531
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 2: It was that whole episode, but It was a couple

1532
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:44,359
of weeks ago with the.

1533
01:11:44,359 --> 01:11:49,279
Speaker 3: Melanie gimme ten, gimme ten, like when when chat GBT

1534
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,680
came in and everybody was like fawning all over him.

1535
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 2: Oh, and I thought that was hysterical.

1536
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,399
Speaker 3: And then that led to like the Melanie Baa scene

1537
01:11:56,399 --> 01:11:58,680
and I was like, Oh, this is taking off. And

1538
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:02,439
then the Sunday episode for me didn't like didn't deliver

1539
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,159
on the promise of that ending. And I was actually

1540
01:12:05,159 --> 01:12:08,119
impressed by Melanie for not freaking out on Sunday that

1541
01:12:08,159 --> 01:12:10,560
Sunday's episode, But for some reason, that week just took

1542
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,640
a nose dive for me where I was just like.

1543
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 1: Oh, used to we were expecting and people wanted to

1544
01:12:17,119 --> 01:12:21,720
put her in that category of the volatility of Hudah

1545
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:22,880
and that's not what she.

1546
01:12:23,119 --> 01:12:24,640
Speaker 3: Well, no, and I don't mean that I needed to

1547
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,239
see that volatility. It almost impressed me that she did

1548
01:12:27,279 --> 01:12:30,560
not react like I predicted she would react. But then

1549
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,720
what happened was that the rest of the cast members

1550
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,960
really weren't grabbing my interest in terms of like actually

1551
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,000
caring about them as people, which is obviously so tough

1552
01:12:39,039 --> 01:12:41,520
to do when you're getting eliminated.

1553
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,159
Speaker 1: So we don't know how it would have ended up with.

1554
01:12:44,159 --> 01:12:47,560
Speaker 3: The watching Bea on after Sun or even watching like

1555
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:51,960
after Son, watching all of these contestants like Sean Bea Gabriel, Like,

1556
01:12:52,079 --> 01:12:54,319
I was like, God, I mean, I love these people

1557
01:12:54,319 --> 01:12:56,800
when they're just talking, like when they're just but for

1558
01:12:56,840 --> 01:13:00,119
some reason that's not translating on the normal episodes for me.

1559
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say even time, but we don't have time, like.

1560
01:13:04,359 --> 01:13:06,520
Speaker 2: And they did remove they did remove what's or nuts?

1561
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:10,039
Speaker 1: I heard miss Nigga. Yeah, I'm so glad that she's going,

1562
01:13:10,079 --> 01:13:13,279
like another one down, like they tried to like cut her.

1563
01:13:13,199 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 2: Out, they know.

1564
01:13:15,399 --> 01:13:17,079
Speaker 3: I told I told my friend the other day, I

1565
01:13:17,119 --> 01:13:19,720
was like, what if this actually teaches kids.

1566
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 2: To not be racist? You know, like, oh you mean

1567
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:22,600
you mean it could fuck me up?

1568
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:23,319
Speaker 3: You mean it?

1569
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,399
Speaker 2: You mean I can't be on Love Island, USA? Maybe

1570
01:13:25,399 --> 01:13:26,359
I won't be racist? Then?

1571
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 3: Like what if this is the thing that gets people

1572
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,399
to stop saying the N word?

1573
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:34,560
Speaker 1: You know, whatever it takes. And I just hope that

1574
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,720
because she got pulled out, that it doesn't make Zach

1575
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:39,920
you know, want to fake his feelings with Kata. I

1576
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:44,279
want Kata to continue acting a damn fool because he.

1577
01:13:44,399 --> 01:13:45,520
Speaker 2: Data, what's going on?

1578
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:49,359
Speaker 1: You guys got all right? Well, thank you so much

1579
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,680
Ryan for coming to try Atlanta with me.

1580
01:13:52,079 --> 01:13:52,560
Speaker 2: I am.

1581
01:13:53,159 --> 01:13:58,560
Speaker 1: I got my weekly DJ residency on Ryan's podcast. We did.

1582
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:03,199
Speaker 3: We did Rhode Island on Thursday Wednesday's episode, so go

1583
01:14:03,279 --> 01:14:06,079
check that out. And we talked about like five different

1584
01:14:06,079 --> 01:14:08,239
other things before we even got to Rhode Island. So

1585
01:14:08,279 --> 01:14:10,039
it's just like two friends shooting the shit, which I

1586
01:14:10,039 --> 01:14:11,760
think is always fun. So go check it out if

1587
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:13,279
you want to, but no pressure.

1588
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,399
Speaker 1: And also tell them about the last few guests that

1589
01:14:16,399 --> 01:14:16,720
you had.

1590
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,520
Speaker 3: We talked about me well, I had Paul Roysden, who's

1591
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,199
a casting producer for like Real Housewise of Rhode Island,

1592
01:14:22,199 --> 01:14:25,079
Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, which was great, my friend

1593
01:14:25,119 --> 01:14:27,239
Sophie Ross from Snark Bay. We do the pop culture

1594
01:14:27,279 --> 01:14:32,560
round up tomorrow. I'm having Asia from Below Deck Ahmed

1595
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:37,079
and Lexi and Andrea from in the City.

1596
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I cannot wait to listen to those. So

1597
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,840
make sure you go rate the podcast five stars. Make

1598
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,159
sure you hype this video if you're watching on YouTube,

1599
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:48,880
and make sure you are listening to me on Ryan's

1600
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,560
podcast and listening to Ryan on my podcast. Thank you

1601
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,680
guys for coming. Love you guys, Bye Bye,