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Speaker 1: Hello ladies, and Jim and welcome back two Travis told

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you the first Travis told you of twoenty twenty six.

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My goodness, we're here is a new year. It is

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weird seeing the two zero two six number. I'm not

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sure if it's that way for any of you. It's

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super weird. Also, just be like four years away from

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twenty thirty. I don't know why something about twenty like

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the twenties didn't seem like as bad. I don't I

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really don't know why. Maybe I'm still in my thirties,

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just like, okay, two twenties, let's come on. Something about

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twenty thirty that's scary. I don't like that. I don't

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like hearing that my hair is a fucking mess because

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I put on a two when I took the dog out.

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So I'll apologize the video people. I gotta figure what

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I'm doing with my hair. I got a couple more

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scenes that we're filming this week and hopefully all done.

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But let me just let people know that we are alive. Yeah,

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but thank you very much to everyone that is tuning

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in now. I hope you had a good New Year's

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I'll see the last time I talked to you just

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any episode was the New Year's Eve Stranger Things finale review,

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which we're gonna talk about. We talk about a bunch

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of while stuff that the Duffers said, what deserves controversy,

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what doesn't deserve controversy? This fucking conformity gate or whatever,

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which I had heard about last night, which is just

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I know, we'll talk about it. It's interesting. I think

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there's just some things that can only happen with fan

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bases and be online. And is there val validity to this?

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Is it coping? I don't know. We'll see, but we're

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gonna talk about it. And again, I hope everyone's had

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a good couple of days. Obviously we're only five days

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good new year so far. Good to twenty twenty six,

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had a good days off. I had the New Year's Eve,

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then four days off in a row. So now it's

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back to regular life. We get same thing this week.

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This month is actually one of my favorite weeks for

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and movies, lots of like content. We get to look

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at next year and say, okay, what happens. So it's

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a fun time, even though it gets a little slower

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in the news in the show from but even show

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friends like Game of Thrones is starting me and the

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don't fall out. We're coming back to that. So and

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then for Tress told you this week. Usually for people

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that are watching live, thank you to everyone in the

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chat right now, lots people are watching probably the conformity

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great gate Crab right and we're gonna talk about it. Okay,

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I'm just get these plugs that away and they'll go

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right into it. I think I'll ask even if you're new,

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but if you're a long time The first link down

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below there's many links. Office is Patreon. You can listen

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to this and every episode we do add free. We'd

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very much appreciate that. Help supports all the shows, the

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extra shows, this show, side Quest Weekly Geek, that supports

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all the exclusive content. This year, we're doing over thirty

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But you're getting lots of bang for your buck there.

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We're really sprucing up the tears this year. Last year

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is our biggest year on Patreon, so we're re sponding

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back big thank you to everybody. And the other link

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that's there, Awesoly. I guess there's the discord you can join.

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about geefers where you're not liking? What do you want

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to see brought back? What do you want to see

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changed up? What do you want to see you know

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year for content, but still too there's even been some

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survey responses. I'm like, you know what, that'd be a

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very fun idea, So there's one we might incorporated. There's

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be live every week. Obviously that changes, and originally I

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appreciate everyone that listened the last Stranger Things episode or

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the finale review that I did for Trest told you

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second biggest episode of the year if you add in

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the review feed, it is the biggest of the year

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gonna catch Superman on the main feed. But I was

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appreciate and I've had kind words on it. Too, no

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massive negative reviews, which is good. So thank you to

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everyone that listened to that episode. Second biggest episode of

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the year last year because we count it because the

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released last year, right, so a big thank you. I

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thought would still do well because the finale, but still

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the fact that I got to number two in five days.

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minutes of spoilers, full breakdown. We're gonna talk about some

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more spoilers again today. But again, a big thank you

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and good It was a nice way that I took

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those four days off no podcasting. I said tonight, we're

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those stats. It's like, okay, that was like a nice

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warming because January can be a little bit quieter, so

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that was a big nice warming, like, oh, thanks for listening.

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of right now, plan to do Monday Wednesday. There might

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doing good. One wait, survey, I've had enough to say.

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like I'm arrogant, but very good percentage of people liking

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to try and do some more evergreen stuff. That seemed

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for the patrons, might be on the live feed we'll

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fucking celebrity or a fucking millie by browning, nothing like that.

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think it will be a good show. So tune in

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there and patroons, you'll get a you'll get a sneak

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peek of who it is because they'll say, oh, send

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some questions for this person. But uh, don't get too excited.

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and coming back for a little bit. But here we

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go stranger things. Let's get rid of that starting soon there.

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imagine it was massive theaters. Obviously, Netflix doesn't keep much

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of the money, doesn't keep any of the money I

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the showings but still still more like unlimited showings with

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a wild web. So if you want to have some

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four U section see like what the album is produced

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I find out what it's about and the idea it is.

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how they found this yet, Because there's stuff that happens

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gamers found like red det Redemption two has been out

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all the points, there's a spider web with something there

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and easter egg that's been the game for almost a

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decade now, right then no one found until now. People

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do do this all the time. People like fans that

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the screen has a seven. Here's the seven here January seven.

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Netflix is doing something big. There is stuff, but it

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is very much like em We will tell me the

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stuff about the Taylor Swift fans, right, where sometimes Sarah

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and then sometimes the fans read completely into it and

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teas for the sake of teas? Right, So you can

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click on there and find all And there's multiple theories

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of why it's this white step. But I guess what

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I haven't said is the theory is Stranger Things or

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Netflix is gonna be dropping a secret episode of Stranger Things.

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I'm laughing because I've honestly that does happen, right, Samn

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did that? But I feel like these bigger shows we've

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never had that I think the biggest cases. And I'll

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bring up Spubs to here because he brought the same

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in my mind went to this immediately, right. I remember

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with Wan division that I think was the biggest one,

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at least I've been a part of. People think there's

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a big like a secret episode. All these signs you

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have to oh, they filmed this one in here, there's

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room about Doctor Strangers isn't in here. We're waiting week month, nothing, right,

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And then when I kind of like I didn't buy

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into it, I didn't think it was gonna happen because

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that was on marl Ance. I don't think I ever

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said that. If I did, then offset I was wrong.

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But I just thought that if there was a possibility

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of it happening, it could have been because that was

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Disney plus experimenting with stuff. Right. Maybe during COVID's like

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hey let's give them something fun, we're saying there's only nine,

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but here's a secret episode. Maybe, right. I have a

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hard time believing this because of them putting in the theaters,

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all these interviews they've done. Now, granted, if an episode

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came out after doing the theaters, doing these all the

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season's ending and all the cast interviews, they like, kudos

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to them for the pulling it off, that would be spectacle. Like, man,

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you guys really did something really fun here. Kudos. But

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I think for me, and that's where it's tough. Is

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I feel like it's mostly from what I saw people

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that are upset with the finale, right, because it's definitely

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more it's funny how it win. Because I feel like

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with the Volume one I talked about on the review,

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but Volume one it felt like people were generally positive,

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had some mixed emotions somethings, but generally positive. Volume two

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very mixed, right, I was underwhelmed by that. Some people

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thought I was falling bad. And then the finale. It's

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different because I'm seeing it with a bunch of fans,

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but I saw it in the theaters. Had a great time.

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You can go back to my spoilers review. Had a

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great time, had like that no way home, endgame type

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of five, great crowd, got in the car and when

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I talked about the AMI right away, you know, I'm

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happy with that fan and I was like I was too,

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And obviously the theater it's big fans, but still like

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I don't there are some fans that are, yes, just

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blind to whatever the thing will do and that happens.

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But I'm a big fan and I would always hate that.

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I can't remember what Batman movie it was, but maybe

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it's just the Batman. I don't know, but it was

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just someone being like, oh, you're Batman fan, so you

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must have loved it. It's like, no, Like I've grown

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to like BVS a bit more, but I did not

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love BVS. There's obviously other Batman things or properties I

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don't love. I hate that as an excuse of oh,

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you love said thing, So the only reason you love

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is because he said you like that said thing. No,

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if it's bad enough, I will critique it. I know

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there are people like that out there that, no matter what,

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love it. But I'm gonna take it at, you know,

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face value. But still theater of big fans. So maybe

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there's one to like it no matter what. Right, I

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talked Emily, I need a gotta try them out there.

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She liked it, and then the overall like responses in

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our discord there were i'd say, very positive, positive right.

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I think people even myself will say, hey, I thought

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it was a great finalite loved it, but there are

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issues with the writings, and then there are some things

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that are underwhelling, and obviously there are some things all

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the duffers that I didn't think about in the moment

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they go wow, that that is a little curious of

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what we're missing there, or certain storylines, or it makes

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you a question of why they chose certain characters to

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do what right, But I digress, and then it seems

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like now, So for me, it was like the first

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wave was nothing, but like it was mixed positive positive.

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Right now it's definitely and most reactions are, but most

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I feel like there is more negativity. There is more

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stuff going on as far as not being whelmed with

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this right, And that's where it comes down. It's all subjective.

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I get it. I don't think for me, even with

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the issues. Obviously, I love the finale, but didn't make

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the whole season at like top tier. I think I

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still have ranked either second last or last. I did

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just rewatch the entire show, but now with season five,

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i'd have to rewatch it again. In the future, I

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could easily put it at last. I think above or

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below too, I'll have to wait and see. I think

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the highs are really high in this finale and the

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final season, but there are some lows right so as

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it's gone on, Definitely, the reaction is I'd say I'd

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say good to mix, because I think even the people

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that were not happy with the finale, people go, well,

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it was safe and not bad, right, So I guess

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there's a question of it depends what type of person

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you are. Do you want bad and taking a swing

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or do you want safe? And it's all right. For

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me it's good and there's things that are safe about

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but for me it's good. It's just overall good, so

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it's not worry for me. I think the most people

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that are still positive on it, but like our somewhat

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negative are that well, was safe, right, And I've talked

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about that before. I've never been like that. There's people

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commenting on the YouTube thing where I didn't need a

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bunch of deaths right for it to be a great thing,

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and some people did. I was fine with being safe

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because of all the reasons I listened in the finale, right,

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So I guess I don't understand, but I understand maybe

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the the insecurity of you if you were really disappointed

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or dislike that finale, and there's a chance there's a

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continuation or a secret episode, you might leach onto that, right.

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So for me, I wouldn't need that because like sure'd

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be cool to see. But as someone that overall liked

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the finale, I'll say I like the finale as far

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as where we end up, right, I don't think the

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writing's perfect. I think, obviously, as I said in the review,

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there's some CGI stuff that's really rough. I liked all

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the creatures, but I'm talked about the backgrounds that's being

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memed with like Lincoln Park videos and Creed videos. So

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for me, I'm not itching for another episode. I do

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agree with other people that I know the Deffer say

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I can never see these characters ever again. Sure you know,

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like all takes is for these people that have a

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couple of bad career moves. All takes us for the

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doffer se have of a couple bad career moves. All

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takes us for Netflix throw a bunch of money at them.

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If you were to pizza about me, hey, you'll never

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see these characters again. No, I would even pizza bet

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you you'll never see these characters again. In five years.

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They could easily do a movie or another season, and

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that can sometimes work, right, Like, there's two examples of

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I can't remember I think I can't remember who propping

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or discord, but talking about like Dexter and whatnot. The

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first Dexter bad family, right, And for some I think

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with Dexter everyone thought it was bad finale. But let's

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say you're in that camp stranger things for you, bad finale,

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bad season, you're wanting a new season to kind of

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close up shop, right, you could get that, And Dexter's

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a good case of They did Dexter new Blood and

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for me, that was a fantastic fall up, and then

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they did like another oh here's another sequel series. He's

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season a couple of years later, and that was bad, right,

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So like and for me, Dexter Resurrection is we're getting

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back to as bad, if not worse, that that original

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show had. I think it's the same quality now. So

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for me, it's one of these things of lightning doesn't

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strike twice. And you can want a show to come

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back like I did, doesn't mean it's gonna get any better.

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There can be you know, some shune, some shun shine

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shining through, but it doesn't mean one hundred percent it's

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gonna make you happy, right, because that's whay with new

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Blood and even new Blood were ended. It's tough with

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characters like a Dexter, like a Stranger Things, And that's

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where I feel like with Breaking Bad, it's a little

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bit different, but characters that really take on a life

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for their own and people love and think about who

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they should because I remember Michael C. Hall said what

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they did with Dexter in the ending and then with

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new Blood and he just said, they're talking about resurrection.

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He said, well, that's just not what people want with Dexter, right,

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And that's where you get tricky, because it's like you

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do kind of want to be concerned what people want,

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but you still is the creator, the writer, the showrunner,

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the storyteller. It's still your story and it's for people

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to react to it. And I understand because I'm somebody

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that hated that Dexter original finale, right, But then when

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it came back and got that ending, there's still people

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that didn't like that ending. And for me, I thought

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it was perfect and they thought was perfect. They thought

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it was a thrilling for their characteristic but that's not

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people one and I get that. But then when you

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go the people wanted run, I think we've gone a

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lower quality show, right. So Stranger Things, like be careful

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what you wish for Even Emily was talking about like, oh,

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do you think there's one. It's like, even if there is,

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you like the finale, and I like the finale. I

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would say, if there is a secret episode, it's going

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to change a lot of those things, right, And I

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would feel the way that finale ended, it wouldn't lend

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itself to a secret episode. I know they've shown the ovact.

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It could be doing this. It could be that I've

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seen a couple of theories. For me, they just don't

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really track. It feels like a lot of grass and

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me at Straws, a lot of you know the word

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kopias or like the meme coopium, Like, I get it,

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I've been there before. But I think it's just a

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case of this is the finale. I don't think anything's

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happening January seventh, big wise for Stranger Things. As far

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as the secret episode, they announce they're doing a documentary

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on the twelfth. So granted you could say, oh, they're

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dropping it on the seventh and then boom, you're gonna

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get a document arl they pulled off. I just feel

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like we're in fully found mode. And don't get me wrong,

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I'd love January seventh. For an episode, well, I wouldn't love,

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but like, if it were to come out, I would

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love to talk about it and see the reaction, the reception,

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how they pull off. That'd be something very cool. But

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then for myself, who liked the finale, I think we're

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in bad territory, right, So this is where I'm gonna

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get into spoils. So if you've not seen said episode,

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said finale, jump out now, right, So I'll give you

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a second. I'll take another water break here, okay, and

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we're back. So here's the thing though, right, the idea

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would be, well, oh, something I think they've shown signs of,

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like I said, someone with the seven some of that

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exits signed all this stuff, and I think the working

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theory is that they think they've won, but Vetna's actually

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put them some sort of dream. So to me, that'd

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be like a good step for a season. But for

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a final episode, what that means all of them come

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back to die or you changed up? Because even then

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I feel like if Eleven didn't do a we don't know, right,

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is she dead? Is she not dead? Up to you? Right,

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I don't think she's dead. But even then, to me,

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if you were to do the real ending crazis happening.

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To me, it would just be the gang hanging out

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together and like, oh, we all won. Then I can

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kind of seep like, you know what, this is too happy.

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Maybe there's something more to it, but still just like

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so what in the dream Vecna also like had them win,

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but it also had them lose by eleven when he

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just had them all happy and fake, like that's what

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he's done before. You know, it's just trying to make

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them super happy. I know you might bring up the

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hopper shooting eleven that being true, but that's because he's

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trying to get him actively to do something when he

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just has like the kids under a guys, it's all

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just making them happy. It's not like doing a twist

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within a twist, like I don't know, and for me

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it's like what will they also put this in the

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theaters like that The theater's aspect, I think is where

470
00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,240
you would feel like a little I don't know, little

471
00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:01,960
jypped a little like you're supposed to be like this

472
00:22:02,079 --> 00:22:04,640
big event with people finale if you saw the theaters

473
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,720
right like myself, and it's like, oh, actually the real

474
00:22:07,839 --> 00:22:10,440
finale is here and I I don't know. It's just

475
00:22:10,599 --> 00:22:13,920
like if there's an epilogue even sure, but like a

476
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,960
full episode that's like, oh, the kids wake up and

477
00:22:17,039 --> 00:22:19,960
they're Warner dream they gotta fight back and again like okay,

478
00:22:20,039 --> 00:22:21,680
so what same thing. It's like people say, oh, well

479
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,079
that's why they did this and did this to this.

480
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,240
It's like, so you're saying, in your opinion, right, I

481
00:22:25,279 --> 00:22:27,319
don't agree with this, but in your opinion, they made

482
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,799
a bad episode or made bad choices to do a

483
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,119
surprise episode. Like, to me, that's something you do within

484
00:22:34,279 --> 00:22:36,640
the episode, not like another one or if you knew

485
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,400
a finale was coming. Like, don't get me wrong, this

486
00:22:39,599 --> 00:22:42,119
concept of a surprise episode. I know Samon has done it,

487
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,119
but like for a bigger, bigger show to do it,

488
00:22:45,279 --> 00:22:47,400
I would love to see it and love to see

489
00:22:47,759 --> 00:22:49,920
how they pull it off, and that would be very fun.

490
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,519
And I again, I don't know if it would be

491
00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:54,599
I think in a serious finale that's where you get

492
00:22:54,599 --> 00:22:58,240
a little tricky in a season finale, or like if

493
00:22:58,279 --> 00:23:01,079
it's like MCU where it's like a serious finale for

494
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,640
a show but the story's kind of continuing, then I

495
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,240
can see it going on and moving forward and doing

496
00:23:06,319 --> 00:23:09,799
that right. So that's the thing where I just don't buy.

497
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,839
I don't buy the theories stuff. I've not seen anything

498
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,480
that would work out now, As I said on the discord,

499
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:19,079
if they do a follow up and it's five years

500
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,559
as ten years later, I'm somebody that was team let

501
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,880
the hero survive, right like our main heroes. That was me.

502
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,400
I was fine them not dying doesn't mean oh there's

503
00:23:27,519 --> 00:23:30,160
no stakes. Oh there was, you know, there's no death.

504
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,920
There wasn't enough like maturity with this. No, I don't

505
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,720
need that with this show, Like I don't need deaths

506
00:23:36,799 --> 00:23:38,720
to make good stuff. That's like what we talk about

507
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,480
all the time on the gimmick with the Wrestling Show

508
00:23:40,599 --> 00:23:43,759
is WWE is taking this idea of like, well, instead

509
00:23:43,759 --> 00:23:46,240
of story like Johnson becoming a bad guy, we're here

510
00:23:46,319 --> 00:23:52,079
for the moments. You moments are only good after the fact.

511
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,759
If there is a story to fall up. Sure in

512
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,359
the moment, the moment is good, like Johnson be coming

513
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,359
back guy. That was huge, but now it's looked upon

514
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,720
as man that really sucks. I wish that didn't happen, right.

515
00:24:02,079 --> 00:24:04,039
So that's the thing, like with moments, you can only

516
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,839
do so much. You still have to follow them up

517
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,799
with stuff, right, And that's where for me, Like sometimes

518
00:24:11,079 --> 00:24:13,559
I think shows including Game does did death for the

519
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,079
sake of deaths, right, I think sometimes they hurt the story.

520
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,240
Sometimes they definitely helped, but sometimes they hurt the story.

521
00:24:18,599 --> 00:24:20,839
But if we were to get a follow up years later,

522
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,519
now here's the thing, if they were if that was

523
00:24:23,599 --> 00:24:25,960
the pitch, maybe for like the sequel series of Oh

524
00:24:26,039 --> 00:24:28,519
Vecna actually had them dream I think for some reason

525
00:24:28,599 --> 00:24:31,720
I'd be more happy with that, even though I guess

526
00:24:31,839 --> 00:24:33,799
not because I'd be what these characters would be living

527
00:24:33,839 --> 00:24:36,359
in a dream for like five years. That's also depressing, right,

528
00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:41,400
I'm more obliged to Oh, the characters one had some

529
00:24:41,599 --> 00:24:43,720
time and then they could it had a life and

530
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,839
then could die or be in peril and life at risk,

531
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,319
get injured, whatever, because it's like at least they had

532
00:24:49,559 --> 00:24:54,119
some time to be, you know, have a good life. Right. Also,

533
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,359
I know that some people's problem with the Star Wars

534
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,240
squel series what they do Luke because he didn't have

535
00:24:58,279 --> 00:25:01,279
a good time, so off it depends on the storyteller,

536
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,759
but I do think that's more likely is the sequel

537
00:25:04,839 --> 00:25:06,920
series and you could pick up on some stuff. Maybe

538
00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:10,160
one character is dreaming. I don't know, but yeah, I

539
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,759
just I don't buy it. Some I'm sorry hashtag conformity gay,

540
00:25:14,079 --> 00:25:16,319
I just I don't see it. I think what I

541
00:25:16,319 --> 00:25:19,359
would say if for someone that actually believes that I

542
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,799
would do this z daia route of you know, expect

543
00:25:23,839 --> 00:25:26,839
disappointment and you're never disappointed. I think we've just seen

544
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,599
and there's other episodes too. I think Loss had this

545
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,559
for a while, Like I think there's other shows that

546
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,559
have had this kind of theory or this fan speculation,

547
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:38,079
nothing happened. Just expect that, because then if you expect

548
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,920
nothing and something does come up, and even if you're right, man,

549
00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:43,079
that's gonna be a great feeling. You've got to be right.

550
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,519
I'm just saying, don't get too overworked on it. You

551
00:25:45,559 --> 00:25:48,519
don't want to be too disappointed, because I think you

552
00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:51,880
should just have the idea of if you're looking at

553
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,759
this as fun as it's just like, oh, what are

554
00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:55,880
they putting together? Oh I could see that or that better,

555
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,839
or even if you're don't like the thing out like

556
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,240
oh I'm hoping it's true, go with that. Don't go

557
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,160
with the you think it's gonna happen. If you're in

558
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,880
that camp that's actually believing this, that's super disappointing the

559
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,799
finale and think there's more. Don't believe that, think about

560
00:26:08,039 --> 00:26:09,319
and do whatever you want in your life. But I'm

561
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,200
just trying to help you with your Kobiam. Just go

562
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,440
at the flow and think this is the finale, and

563
00:26:14,519 --> 00:26:17,599
then it'll hurt less and you'll move forward a lot faster.

564
00:26:17,759 --> 00:26:20,839
You know. That's the best thing I can say. But yeah,

565
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,000
we'll see with the sequel series. What could happen. I

566
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:25,880
think will happen one day. I'm not gonna say will,

567
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,160
but I wouldn't be surprised, right for I guess if

568
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,200
you were to ask me, like, will happen? I think

569
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,920
I'm like a sixty to forty because I think it's

570
00:26:36,039 --> 00:26:37,920
better the longer you wait. I think it's almost like

571
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,039
a Star Wars where I wait like ten years and

572
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,680
get like a huge like these characters are coming back

573
00:26:42,759 --> 00:26:45,119
and tons of new stuff's happening, right because that's what

574
00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:47,079
we talked about, or we can talk about next week.

575
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,200
Trans position in the Duffer Brothers situation where they're talking

576
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,640
about the their shows. One, I think and if someone

577
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,279
in the comments knows, let me know. They're talking about

578
00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:59,039
the spinoffs, right and for me, okay, look at this

579
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,759
perfect the Duffer Let's see the Duffer brothers have beginn

580
00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:06,759
developed and share your things spin off series. No Hawkins No.

581
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,160
Eight nineteen eighty setting, no returning characters, some serious rockin scenes.

582
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,680
If I will play import role. It's very different yet

583
00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:15,519
very much stranger things. So you know, So here's the thing,

584
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,000
so the Hawkins. Yeah, that makes sense. We've done enough

585
00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:21,319
there no nineteen eighty settings, what I don't know about them?

586
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,839
This is where for me, we'll have to see. I'm

587
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,400
not a big prequel guy. Since the podcast has started,

588
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,759
which was in twenty fifteen, we have gone some great

589
00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:31,359
prequels stuff with the Apes, even House of Dragon, who

590
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,759
I was down on before that ended up being great.

591
00:27:33,839 --> 00:27:37,240
But obviously I think we've still seen way more mediocre

592
00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:40,559
to bad prequels than we have sequels. Right, I think

593
00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:43,279
the idea of even if it's not a character we

594
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,160
know from here, the military scientists being like everything happened

595
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,799
to Hawkins, we tracked it back to the Stone and

596
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,400
we're gonna go on and find out what the deals

597
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,319
And there's more of it there, right, And to me,

598
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,720
if it's a sequel or moving forward, that's where even

599
00:27:55,759 --> 00:27:59,119
like Star Wars Starfighter, right, terrible titles say back and forth,

600
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,559
but that's where there's all speculation. Is Ray Skywalker in

601
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,599
that as you connect that, right, we've heard rumors, four,

602
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,960
we've heard rumors. Some things have changed with it being

603
00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:10,799
the sequel. That's what's great is you don't have to

604
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,279
do it. You could do it and the door's open.

605
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,319
You could do Starfighter and it's gonna be its own thing.

606
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,759
That's cool. Or whether it's at the end of that

607
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,759
movie or in a sequel, Hey, it's its own thing.

608
00:28:20,839 --> 00:28:23,960
But now we could go into the main timeline connuity,

609
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,000
main sequel characters, introduce them, have them whatever, let's do that.

610
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,039
Like for me, I would prefer this show not to

611
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,279
be a prequel dude in the nineties and have their

612
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,480
have completely enough against the characters, because that's why too,

613
00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:38,480
if you eventually do want to do a sequel series,

614
00:28:38,519 --> 00:28:41,200
there's like other stuff's going on. These characters have heard

615
00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:44,160
murmurs about it, and it's not completely out of thin air, right,

616
00:28:44,559 --> 00:28:46,799
But maybe that's the idea is if they do a

617
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,200
sequel series, they don't want any characters. And again there's

618
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,759
been no rumblings. They have not say an thing. They've

619
00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:52,880
said the opposite where you'll never see these characters in

620
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,960
live action, never say never, as John Sean Connery have

621
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,680
taught us, right. But for me, that's maybe what they

622
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,720
could do is, oh well, nothing else happened. So if

623
00:29:01,839 --> 00:29:04,960
the shit in the present day happens the stranger things kids,

624
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,079
I can pick up on it, right. So sure, granted,

625
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,720
so in nineteen eighty setting, I'm not sure what that

626
00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:13,920
would be. I'm assuming it is a prequel. That gets

627
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,759
me a little less excited. I don't mind, because they said,

628
00:29:16,839 --> 00:29:18,799
like this stone thing is not exactly the mind flare,

629
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,480
but something to do with it. So I will watch it.

630
00:29:21,599 --> 00:29:24,359
I will give it a chance. I guess that prequels

631
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,160
already start with an asterisk for me of okay, you

632
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,160
gotta you gotta earn my trust a little bit here,

633
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,720
because once you start to do things that happened before,

634
00:29:32,359 --> 00:29:33,920
you start put yourself in a box. Now, if they

635
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,039
say this is like early nineteen hundred, it's like what

636
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,200
I want the series to do, like it welcomed to Darry. Sure,

637
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,640
but we even talked about this and it Welcomed to Dary,

638
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,839
which it's so funny. I've seen that a lot like granted,

639
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,680
fair enough, but so many people like could people, so

640
00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:51,400
many people comparing it Welcome to Day season one to

641
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:57,680
it's Stranger Things finale season five, and like, I'm somebody

642
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,839
that definitely likes Stranger Things more. I think it had

643
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:01,480
great moments, but I think of people have given the

644
00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:03,880
like a lot of pass for some of the iffy

645
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,880
writing you check out reviews. Me and Dylan had some

646
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,720
issues with it, and I also think that now, granted

647
00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:11,160
there's some things they did that I said that could

648
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,039
help about the times like this doesn't really fit in

649
00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:15,799
the box of the movies. They're doing some weird timeline stuff.

650
00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:18,160
I'm getting away and see that to me has to

651
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,759
see what the other seasons do, because if it's just

652
00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:22,640
teasers of like, oh, there's some changes we could do here,

653
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,839
but they don't really do anything, it's like, Okay, I

654
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,279
still have the same complaints, So that's a TVD right,

655
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:29,519
But I still think the quality show the acting Stranger

656
00:30:29,599 --> 00:30:31,759
Things is better. But I would never compare them in

657
00:30:31,839 --> 00:30:33,519
that sense of sure, if you ask me, I'm fine

658
00:30:33,559 --> 00:30:36,359
compared thing right, I'm finally like there's so many times

659
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,519
I'm not trying to do that where people go, oh,

660
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,559
you can't compare this to this. It's that you can

661
00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:44,680
compare whatever you want. If you don't feel could be compared,

662
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,839
then you're worried about your thing. For me, it's just

663
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,440
like an odd link of like, other than them being

664
00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:53,279
horror and I guess with kids, it's just that comparison

665
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,000
is all right. When people used to be like, you

666
00:30:55,039 --> 00:30:57,880
can't compare someone to BVS, it's like, why not it's

667
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,759
superheroes fighting? Is this and that? Sure, yes you can

668
00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:03,680
compare it Welcomed Airy season one to it's Stranger Things

669
00:31:04,079 --> 00:31:07,079
like season five. It just feels like an odd comparison

670
00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:08,880
because it feels like they're doing something differently. And then

671
00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:11,359
if you are, then to me, Stranger Things is still better.

672
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,519
It has a lot of issues. The people are talking

673
00:31:14,519 --> 00:31:17,759
about the fucking Lincoln Park background, like there's some iffing

674
00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:20,160
if it, but I'm not looking to put them against

675
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,920
each other. I liked if enough. I gave them if It,

676
00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:25,039
I gave that seven, but it was weird. It just

677
00:31:25,079 --> 00:31:29,400
felt like it came in. It just felt like that

678
00:31:29,519 --> 00:31:31,440
it welcomed to dairy kraw was waiting for this and

679
00:31:31,519 --> 00:31:34,200
that finale hit and then there's memes galoores, like what

680
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,960
is the correlation here? It's not like they're not competition

681
00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:39,599
in that sense. It's not like oh, Won Duffer brother

682
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,400
went over there, like I understand when people are doing

683
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,519
like oh, Smashing Machine Mario Supreme, we know the better

684
00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:47,440
brother is right just just odd? I don't know. And

685
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,240
before I go too far, s Pubs, you can send

686
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:51,960
your questions on Patreon, like s bubs said. You can

687
00:31:52,079 --> 00:31:54,920
join the Phase one tier or higher, any of those

688
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,759
tiers you get to send in questions before cast as

689
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,720
just I didn't know what conformitigate was, so I read

690
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,720
the art about it and thought that explanation was pretty funny,

691
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,640
and Netflix this quotation. Netflix announced event on January seventh

692
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,240
of What's Next fans to point out the links of

693
00:32:09,319 --> 00:32:11,160
the show. Yeah, with Will rolling at seven, the first

694
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,240
ever D and D session, and then being several other

695
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,920
thematic connections. The answer, almost certainly, though, is simply a

696
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,960
fan base struggling. They code with the ending they aren't

697
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,799
satisfied with. But no, and then he said, but no,

698
00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:22,680
I don't think secret finale, so just like, want a

699
00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:25,960
vision and yeah, I just don't think that's happening, but yeah,

700
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,279
a spinoff, we'll see And what was the other notes here?

701
00:32:28,759 --> 00:32:30,880
Misterious rock? Okay, sure, and then it's very different. But

702
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,200
Verma Stranger thinks, sure, waiting to see what happens there.

703
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:39,920
But let's get into this, right. So Duffer has been

704
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,759
doing a lot of interviews. I will say that I

705
00:32:45,119 --> 00:32:50,599
think because I think we saw this with the Game

706
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,839
of Thrones finale that happened when people were like what

707
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,920
happened to There's a scene where Denaris, if you don't know,

708
00:32:57,279 --> 00:32:59,200
you know, I'm sure you know at least a little

709
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,920
bit of it. But if you don't know, big character

710
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,359
has an army for some reason, they get attacked and

711
00:33:03,559 --> 00:33:05,839
they're like, well, where's that army? And then they go, well,

712
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,319
they just kind of forgot that army would be attacking

713
00:33:08,359 --> 00:33:10,799
the right and the dufferst gave a very similar answer

714
00:33:10,839 --> 00:33:13,279
to one of these questions, and I'm like, oh boy,

715
00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:15,839
here we go. I just feel like I remember this.

716
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,799
I remember endgame when they talked about cap going back

717
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,799
in time or the multiverse, and I can't remember which

718
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:23,119
one or was which, but the writers like, well or

719
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,720
I don't know which one right, but one of the

720
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:27,480
groups you got the Russo Brothers and then you had

721
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:29,759
Marcus mcfiey, and one of them said, well, he went

722
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,720
back in time and he's been there the whole time.

723
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:35,160
And then the end of their group was like, well, uh, nope,

724
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,200
he went to the different multiverse. He's non on time

725
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,480
with our other heroes that somewhere completely different, right, And

726
00:33:40,599 --> 00:33:42,359
that time I was fine with it because I thought, well,

727
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,160
if they never answered this cat thing, it's kind of funny.

728
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,319
Can leave ambiguous. Is old man Steve a guy from

729
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,920
multiverse traveling over say hi? Or is old man Steve

730
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,559
a guy that's been there the whole time watching stuff,

731
00:33:51,559 --> 00:33:54,079
which I don't like. That's fun Now a dosday, we're

732
00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:56,119
gonna get that answered, and I don't like the route

733
00:33:56,119 --> 00:33:58,039
we're going. Check out. We'll do born newscasts in the

734
00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:01,039
future on that so happen. I feel like they also

735
00:34:01,079 --> 00:34:03,359
give other answers. They're like, ah, people didn't really love right,

736
00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:07,720
and now the Duffers are doing here. I know legally

737
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,559
they probably have to write. I'm sure Netflix signs them

738
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:12,639
up for hey, go do some interviews promote the shows,

739
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,639
but at the same time, one do they really need

740
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,039
to Are people gonna check out the show more because

741
00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:23,159
of these answers, especially if the answers are not happy. Granted,

742
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,239
I still think this is for the hardcore fan base,

743
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,199
and this is for people that really care about the show.

744
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:29,159
I think if you are a general audience matter of

745
00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:31,320
the watch Stranger Things, you're watching it, enjoying it non

746
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,039
joint then moving on. I don't think you're reading what

747
00:34:33,079 --> 00:34:35,800
the Duffer brothers said, luckily or not luckily. But now

748
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,000
with social media, with TikTok, and like I said, even

749
00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:40,639
with ex with the for you, you will get algorithm stuff,

750
00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:42,480
so you might see some of the interesting Stranger thing

751
00:34:42,599 --> 00:34:44,559
like what happened to the pregnant lady and they answer

752
00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:53,920
you right. So for me, I I I just it's

753
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,119
you can see these things, but I still think people

754
00:34:56,119 --> 00:34:58,960
are actively going out for them. Sorry, I got a

755
00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:03,039
notification there for scheduling from mister s Bubbs. I gotta

756
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,800
hang on once Secon, I gotta wait. We'll see what

757
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,360
David says live on Errow doing some scheduling forget for us.

758
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,480
But I just be like these questions for the most people.

759
00:35:10,599 --> 00:35:13,760
General audiences are not gonna affect, but for the people here,

760
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,480
I go, is this the best thing to do? Now?

761
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,440
Let's see hang on one second, yes, let's do that.

762
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:27,599
It's perfect. Okay. So I the questions here that were answered,

763
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,440
I don't think they shoul I think creatives should steer

764
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,239
away from these or do two things where Spob's a

765
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,320
brother is up where I think for me, it's like

766
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,000
David Lynch where it was like, because he makes some

767
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:40,599
really trippy stuff right when Twin peaks stuff that was

768
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,559
very some even things that never answer some things that

769
00:35:43,639 --> 00:35:46,920
are just like up to interpretation, right. So to me,

770
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,119
when he would say, ah, you gotta watch it again,

771
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,599
that was kind of a two for of watch again

772
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:54,360
because you missed something or it's like yeah, like there's

773
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,159
a deeper meaning there, but really there's not. But I'm

774
00:35:56,199 --> 00:35:57,679
just gonna fuck with you. I don't want to answer that, right,

775
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,599
or the James camera out of Hey, if it happened

776
00:35:59,639 --> 00:36:02,679
the show like it, it's can't like whatever I say

777
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,239
is canon, go with that and it happened because it happened.

778
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,679
To deal with it, right, I'm not saying you gotta

779
00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:09,320
be rude about I'm not saying you gotta be arrogant

780
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,719
about or pomp bits, but I do think maybe some

781
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,639
of these creatives should stop doing these post things because

782
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,639
for me, this is where I think for most people,

783
00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:18,679
but for me, like for the general audience, it is

784
00:36:18,679 --> 00:36:20,400
an effect. But for me, there was something I didn't

785
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,360
think about. I brought up the Vicky stuff, I brought

786
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,280
the destined girlfriend stuff. There's I think another thing I

787
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,760
brought to you that we'll talk about these interviews that

788
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,639
I brought on the review, some stuff that bugged me,

789
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,039
some stuff that I think actually hurt the finale, but

790
00:36:32,159 --> 00:36:35,239
nothing massive, right. But then there's stuff like I completely

791
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,880
forgot because obviously I saw in theaters hype crowd, and

792
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,559
then I did the review, as I said that I

793
00:36:39,679 --> 00:36:40,960
only had an hour because I had to do New

794
00:36:41,039 --> 00:36:45,639
Year's festivities. After I completely forgot about the pregnantlity subplot,

795
00:36:46,199 --> 00:36:49,800
and when I learned about what happened, that was pretty

796
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,880
fucked up and pretty crazy and not fucked up in

797
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,079
like a oh that's really dark, right, and was just like, Oh,

798
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,320
that's how it goes, and it's weird because a few

799
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,440
of the answers they give here and I'll point them

800
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,239
out literally could have been fixed with one line of dialogue, like,

801
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,679
for exampleight, let's start with the pregnant lady one. That's

802
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,719
something that I still like the finale, but that actively

803
00:37:11,159 --> 00:37:13,400
will bring down some points for me. As I've said,

804
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,239
I think the ending points for our characters are great.

805
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,840
How we get there some things along the way, lots

806
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,519
of turbulence. They introduced the subplot of Cali finds, Okay,

807
00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:24,599
all these pregnant ladies are trying to create another eleven,

808
00:37:24,679 --> 00:37:26,719
right with the blood she's the best one. They're trying

809
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,159
to do this with Cali's bood get to town. So, uh,

810
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,280
they set up at one point they talk about I'm

811
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,079
pretty sure I could be wrong, but I thought one

812
00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:37,920
point they talked about saving these pregnant ladies or getting

813
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,519
the kids or something like that. Right. I know it's

814
00:37:39,559 --> 00:37:41,199
tough because the kids they had the kids with Holly,

815
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,639
but I feel like her and CALLI talk about this, right,

816
00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:47,599
So for me, I've forgot about that. So the fact

817
00:37:47,679 --> 00:37:51,559
that they went, hey, the plot is we're gonna you know,

818
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:53,840
Cal's get shot. We're gonna ever out there, stop deckness

819
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,960
off the mind flare, and then we're gonna blow up

820
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,960
the upside down, which makes sense, right, blow the upside down,

821
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,960
blow the abyscuit that out of there. If you have

822
00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:04,519
all these pregnant laies that these characters know about, that's

823
00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:06,559
really fucked up for characters that are supposed to be

824
00:38:06,559 --> 00:38:09,280
saving the world or saving people. It's very easy to

825
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,559
to lines where either when Callis tell that story, she says, oh,

826
00:38:12,639 --> 00:38:15,280
I found these experiments and then explain something like but

827
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,320
none of them worked, and those ladies passed away, those

828
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,360
babies passed away, or they killed them because it didn't

829
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:24,079
work out right, or say that like it's tough to

830
00:38:24,159 --> 00:38:26,519
save them, right, but or say the same thing where

831
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,199
or just put them not in the upside down, right,

832
00:38:29,559 --> 00:38:32,280
or just say that though they didn't make it as

833
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,559
dark as that is, likeveckna kill them something like that,

834
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,079
like put the death on someone else other than Hopper

835
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,960
Levin in the gang. That is fucked up. And that's

836
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,880
a weird plot line to introduce, especially where I feel

837
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,199
like they did talk about saving them, so that was

838
00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:47,800
somethe Wow, I didn't think about that, and that's that's

839
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,679
messed up. That that feels like something where again, don't

840
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,599
introduce that. Find a way to kill that off screen.

841
00:38:54,639 --> 00:38:55,960
Like I said, if they were to say, hey, the

842
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,360
military did that right away, you feel better about because like, oh,

843
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,480
they're working on them, but the military can them off

844
00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:03,519
and man doesn't. Isn't Linna Hampton a piece of shit? Yep?

845
00:39:03,639 --> 00:39:06,159
There you go. Uh and then let's see here and

846
00:39:06,199 --> 00:39:07,920
then even then I had this quote from there for

847
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:10,960
Matt Duffer says he regrets doing the post finale interviews

848
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,599
asking fans to come some slack. I'm not in a

849
00:39:13,679 --> 00:39:16,000
good place, like, why the hell do we do any

850
00:39:16,039 --> 00:39:18,880
of them? Yesterday is being me. I'm like fried, I

851
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,639
was getting over the flu. So anyone mad at any

852
00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:24,280
of the answers we gave, you, just cut me some slack.

853
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,199
Here's one thing. And I do respect this because like

854
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,239
I didn't love the everything about the movie, but and

855
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,119
especially like the ending too right. I think it is

856
00:39:32,159 --> 00:39:34,599
really weird. But look at bo as a preade, I

857
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:39,000
think I respect nothing. I respect ari Aster for people

858
00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:41,079
asking them specific questions about the finale and just said

859
00:39:41,079 --> 00:39:44,079
you know what for now. And again, he could be bullshitting.

860
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,199
He could not know, he could know. He could be like,

861
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,599
I'm gonna throw something in here. That's very ambiguous. I

862
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,400
know what it means to figure it out. But he said,

863
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,800
you know what, I'm not gonna talk about the ending

864
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,480
right now because I want people to kind of dive

865
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:58,320
in and have their own thoughts discussed before I come

866
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,639
down with the hammer. Right. And I think especially that's

867
00:40:01,679 --> 00:40:04,239
Bo's Afraid. That's like, and that was I think his

868
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,960
lowest grossing I guess Edington prob was like, that wasn't

869
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,559
a massive movie. You go to someone and say, hey,

870
00:40:08,599 --> 00:40:10,199
have you seen Bo's Afraid? They're probably gonna say no

871
00:40:11,079 --> 00:40:13,880
to me. Two things I would have recommended. One the

872
00:40:14,039 --> 00:40:17,400
Duffer should have not like because because when he says

873
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,599
a not good place, granted actually not granted right, because

874
00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:22,760
I was gonna say, they're gonna pay millions, they're making movies.

875
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,800
But how many times do we see like fuck man? Like,

876
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,760
I'm not trying to be a downer, but we lost

877
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,039
Rob Williams. You would think that this guy's so happy,

878
00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:33,960
joking legendary actor one an Oscar, his life's great, right.

879
00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:36,199
No people are can be a bad place. So I'm

880
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:37,800
not trying to make this to that level. I just mean, like,

881
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,280
when he says it not a good place, he could

882
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,000
just be talking about being sick. But if people when

883
00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:45,760
he's saying when he's talking about the reaction to the internet,

884
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,920
because it's it's it's interesting where usually you get the

885
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,199
reaction of the finale and people like, here's the Duffer's

886
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,679
reaction to the fans. This is like, here's the Duffer's

887
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,280
reaction to their reaction of the reaction. It's like this

888
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,360
chain of their reacting to the interviews that gave him.

889
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,280
People's reacting that I guarantee you if they've seen these

890
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,639
interview reactions people dragging them for that, if they, I

891
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,119
hope not. But for some mental health stuff. I don't

892
00:41:08,119 --> 00:41:09,679
know what saying. They're in a super dark place, but

893
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,559
some people can be. If they put this finale out

894
00:41:12,559 --> 00:41:14,800
and there's already mixed reaction, and the interviews come out

895
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,880
and there's more mixed reaction, that that can't be good.

896
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,280
You know. I can't remember which celebrity it was just

897
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,920
recently talked about, like the movie came out and they

898
00:41:24,039 --> 00:41:25,360
just turned their phone off for a week and do

899
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,880
look at anything. And I don't know if they're telling

900
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,039
truth of line, but they like the movie came out.

901
00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:30,159
I think they found out like oh, this is what

902
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,880
they did the box office and then left phone off,

903
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,800
like phone off from that cut out and if they

904
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,599
did that, which it sound like they did, because I

905
00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:38,639
think they said like then the next week saw I

906
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,400
got reality. I didn't think they were lying. Can't remember

907
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,880
who story it was, but like feel like that's what

908
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,880
they should have done, maybe for a bit longer, because

909
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,079
that's the thing where it's like Bo's afraid, and that's

910
00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:49,760
the same thing with the answer in the interviews. You

911
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,760
don't want to give this the fact that it was

912
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,800
like I think it was like Saturday or like two

913
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,199
days after. It's like already we're getting to like the

914
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,039
Duffers breakdown, everything's going on. It's like, you don't need

915
00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:00,719
to do this. I don't think public you need to.

916
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,239
I think you can tell on Netflix like hey, let's

917
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,800
let's sit for a bit, let's build up, and then

918
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,519
it's like, oh, in a month even from now, we'll

919
00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:08,519
give these interviews when it's kind of tapered off and

920
00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:10,480
people are stop watching, and then people might go back

921
00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:12,559
and watch with a different feeling or at least talk

922
00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:15,480
about it again. Right, I would say, for one, just

923
00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:17,039
like if you don't want to do the camera and

924
00:42:17,559 --> 00:42:19,440
the lynch like power move if you want to that

925
00:42:19,559 --> 00:42:21,440
She's explained this. It's the stuff i'd say, like, let

926
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,679
it sit for a little bit. Even I'd say longer evening,

927
00:42:24,679 --> 00:42:26,320
like a year, but let it sit for a little bit.

928
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,559
And two, don't go check social media, especially with this,

929
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,480
Like with the phenomenon, you knew no matter what, there's

930
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:35,280
gonna be people that probably absolutely hate what you're doing. Right,

931
00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:37,280
but with this, when he's in a not a good place,

932
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,880
I guarantee that still has to suck, right, Like we

933
00:42:40,039 --> 00:42:42,039
try to do this. But like same thing anything Geef

934
00:42:42,079 --> 00:42:45,360
for So there's something that is a genuine like critique.

935
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,360
Well even with our movie, when I get a genuine one,

936
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,199
I'm like, ah, yeah, like it's and no one was

937
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,840
super native, but it's just like, oh I wish I

938
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,719
could have made that better, caught that or done that.

939
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,440
You know, there's some sorts and there's some where it's like,

940
00:42:55,519 --> 00:42:57,800
oh I did get the fixed out before film vessils,

941
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,559
and there's somewhere it's like, ah, that's just the way

942
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:01,320
it is, and I gotta do better the next time. Right,

943
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,039
every time we've made a movie I've made, I like

944
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,039
and we're making low like Indie, you know, just five

945
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,360
figure budget stuff, right, but every time it makes me go, oh,

946
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,079
I could do better here and do better here. So

947
00:43:12,159 --> 00:43:13,880
I can't imagine on this scale where if you were

948
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,920
to long your social media scene an interview, it's thousands

949
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,559
of people shouldn't unye, and the end the day it's

950
00:43:18,599 --> 00:43:21,559
like it's fictional stuff. I know people love these characters,

951
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:25,079
so that's what I recommend. But he did say that, like, sorry,

952
00:43:25,639 --> 00:43:27,679
what was it about the Uh yeah, not in a

953
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:32,440
good place? What was it where I lost it? Yeah?

954
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,599
I read an article a whole about it and thought,

955
00:43:35,199 --> 00:43:37,599
the fuck I lost it all? I deleted it. But

956
00:43:38,639 --> 00:43:42,039
let's see Stranger and even then Stranger Things season five

957
00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:44,760
final finale plot holes explain. Also, that's the website. But

958
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,599
that's way they're taking, right, So we talked about prankantly

959
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,760
is that's one. This is what I talked about before.

960
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,639
Where were the Demi Gordons Demo dogs during Victim's final battle?

961
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,800
And then their answer was mainly it's because Vectim is

962
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,079
not expecting them to sneak up on his home turf.

963
00:43:58,199 --> 00:44:00,800
Never a million years, could you imagine that there are

964
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,360
somewhere else. We're obviously discussed having a demo bat on

965
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,000
top of the mind Flare, but it felt more right

966
00:44:05,079 --> 00:44:07,039
for us. Why do we need demos here when the

967
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:09,159
mind Flare is this giant thing that can attack them.

968
00:44:09,519 --> 00:44:15,400
So here's the thing. I'm of two minds the Game

969
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,159
of Thrones, Like the Game of Thrones. One that bugged

970
00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:23,400
me more about the Oh why didn't they stop this army? Oh?

971
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,039
Because they kind of forgot about them? Right? This was

972
00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:28,320
like literally, you're kind of heading onto the coclision to

973
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,320
have a war. This was like, Okay, I can kind

974
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,559
of buy maybe Vecna's like ignorance or arrogance. He would

975
00:44:34,599 --> 00:44:36,840
never think that they could get there. So okay, there's

976
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,119
no demo dogs or demic gortans whatever, Right, Sure I can.

977
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,159
I can make the leap. It's a little bit, but

978
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,559
I can get there. I guess. For me with this one,

979
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:49,079
I'm also just like it's season five, man, Like see

980
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,400
that season like Games was different because it was like

981
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,079
two factions getting together, that's the end war and their

982
00:44:54,199 --> 00:44:56,440
characters involved with this, right, and the dragons were such

983
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,639
a big deal where it's like, are the demo god

984
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,559
like demic gods or demo dogs or demo Gordons or

985
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:04,000
demo bats whatever, like, are they that important now and

986
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:06,719
what's gonna happen? You would just add another two to

987
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,760
three minute scene of Will just fucking them up or

988
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,119
them shooting them. It's like, we've seen this al ray.

989
00:45:11,199 --> 00:45:13,039
So for me, that's one that I know people that

990
00:45:13,159 --> 00:45:15,360
are hung up on that big time. For me, not

991
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,079
as much. That didn't really bug me. I was like, okay, cool,

992
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,480
Like sure, whatever we didn't like, it just would have

993
00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:23,159
been another scene. And what happened if you add that

994
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,800
scene and it takes away the effect of the budget

995
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,440
and then you have to like, we lose even effects

996
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,840
on the Spider looking good? Right, So for me, I

997
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,360
get it if that's something that bugs you. So all

998
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,079
of a sudden different things. The bug us didn't really

999
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:40,400
bug me at all. What happened to Susie sus the

1000
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,320
actress that I am, and my mind should always be

1001
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,519
there for them any further let's see, but I can't

1002
00:45:45,519 --> 00:45:47,400
remember where it is. But the duffer just said, like

1003
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,519
they think that they oh, this was the actual actressaid.

1004
00:45:51,519 --> 00:45:52,920
I didn't have a conversation with them about that. I

1005
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,199
think unfortunately, what can be assumed is that Dustin's year

1006
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,079
long unhealthy greeting process. I mean he's cutting out friends

1007
00:45:58,159 --> 00:46:00,480
day to day spending time with them. You imagine you

1008
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,239
probably could have a long distance relationship. I would like

1009
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,280
to hope, or like to think he did nicely. I

1010
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:05,960
don't think he did it nicely because he wasn't very

1011
00:46:06,039 --> 00:46:08,199
nice at that point in his life. Again, not a

1012
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,199
big deal for me because like it's not like, oh Susie,

1013
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:11,559
but like for the people that do care, and I

1014
00:46:11,599 --> 00:46:13,559
did bring up like I thought she might pop up.

1015
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,519
It was a thread. All you need is when Steve's

1016
00:46:16,599 --> 00:46:18,760
given him the shit is, oh you've done this. You

1017
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,000
are like this. You broke up with Susie. Done, done,

1018
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,719
figured out easy right. So not a big one, but

1019
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:30,239
again a little software, you know, especially because like it

1020
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,159
did like maybe they had more time. I kind of

1021
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,599
understand these movies that unfortunately have these release dates where

1022
00:46:34,639 --> 00:46:36,199
you gotta hit this, you gotta be out by this date.

1023
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,199
It feels like a stranger things they would kind of

1024
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,559
like give them a lot of time. But I don't know. Uh,

1025
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,119
this is one that I can I'm the same as

1026
00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:46,840
the demo gorns, right, this is one that I feel

1027
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,320
more on or more so for the people that have

1028
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,000
a problem with it. But I think it's just something

1029
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,920
that's happened before. To explain what happened to the military

1030
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,320
after the finale, let's see that ever said in the

1031
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,559
eighteen month gap, I suppose there's not much else to do.

1032
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,320
You can't explore this to mention there's no eleven in

1033
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,519
chasing more because she's gone. So my guess is they

1034
00:47:03,559 --> 00:47:09,000
solely dismantled operations and left town. So for me, it's

1035
00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:11,840
it's a two for right of people saying that's really

1036
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,599
easy because right, it's like Nancy, there's a montage and

1037
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,559
like there's a quoting the Nancy killing a bunch of

1038
00:47:17,639 --> 00:47:19,760
the guards, right, the government obviously the government might just

1039
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,599
say the training facility, training exercise went wrong, something happened.

1040
00:47:22,679 --> 00:47:28,480
I digress. I guess for me is I'm just and

1041
00:47:28,519 --> 00:47:30,719
maybe people have had this before. For me, that's been

1042
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,159
a critique from the whole series. Like even I think

1043
00:47:33,199 --> 00:47:36,599
it's season one when Hopper like breaks into the government facility,

1044
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,199
I don't believe for a secondly, like, well, you keep

1045
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,719
the secret, you don't say anything, and we won't say

1046
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,320
anything about you doing this. In my mind, the government

1047
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,000
would kill it the same way as like I Love

1048
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:48,800
twenty years Later. That's probably my favorite movie of last year.

1049
00:47:49,519 --> 00:47:52,119
I still have a hard time believing that there's just like,

1050
00:47:52,199 --> 00:47:55,559
oh yeah, that country has a zombie mind virus and

1051
00:47:55,679 --> 00:47:57,679
we're just going to quarantine. We're in quarantine. Do nothing

1052
00:47:58,119 --> 00:47:59,679
in the world we live in now. I think most

1053
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,119
country big we're fucking bombing that place, you know, Like

1054
00:48:02,519 --> 00:48:05,320
that's what I feel like what happened. So for me,

1055
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,079
I understand, I do have that problem of man, they

1056
00:48:08,119 --> 00:48:10,159
sure get at this really easy, right, I had that

1057
00:48:10,199 --> 00:48:12,280
problem to be in this season. But that's something that's

1058
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,039
continuously happened with like stranger things that you kind of

1059
00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:17,559
have to like throw the side, which that's where I

1060
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:20,920
said John, you know, Patron and Discord remember asked, hey, like,

1061
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,880
where do you guys rank this as far as like

1062
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,360
best of all time shows? Right? For me, we did

1063
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,800
our list this year on the for the ten year.

1064
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,599
I didn't have it on there because it wasn't finished.

1065
00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:33,800
I did have Interview Vampire because and that wasn't finished,

1066
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,960
but that was still just stronger me. That's the writing

1067
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,239
is so strong. I form my personal favorite what I

1068
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,960
have stranger thing there. I love the journey, I love

1069
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,400
the characters, happy ending, I thought we got some great TV.

1070
00:48:42,599 --> 00:48:44,840
I would have it in my personal top ten. But

1071
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,679
that's where it comes down to would I have it

1072
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,960
in a top ten for writing? Like would it be

1073
00:48:49,039 --> 00:48:52,599
up there with Breaking Bad, Sopranos, The Wire, mad Men,

1074
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,800
Six Feet Under No, that's where the change happens. That's

1075
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,280
where I go no for my favorite, yes for best no.

1076
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,239
And that's where stuff like that military stuff keeps it

1077
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,599
from being away from the best. But that's okay because

1078
00:49:03,599 --> 00:49:05,079
I've just gotta dealt with it and it doesn't take

1079
00:49:05,079 --> 00:49:10,800
away from it too much. Let's see here, Let's see

1080
00:49:12,159 --> 00:49:14,440
I don't really care about that. If you asked about,

1081
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,360
like what happened to Murray, doctor k mister Clark, and Erica,

1082
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,559
it's like, I don't know. I don't know. Like they

1083
00:49:20,599 --> 00:49:22,760
were there at the graduation good enough to me, right,

1084
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,360
we talked about the pregnant lady thing that was bad

1085
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,679
and Erica for me. That's where we get into this

1086
00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:30,800
the Vicki one. Right, where is what happened to Vicky?

1087
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:34,199
Let's see to never said we do that flash forward

1088
00:49:34,199 --> 00:49:35,800
Mike's story and we bring them up to a certain point,

1089
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:36,960
and then we want to leave a little bit for

1090
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,079
the fans in terms of where these characters end. Ultimately,

1091
00:49:40,199 --> 00:49:43,440
do Robin Vickys together? Maybe? Maybe not. From my point

1092
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,000
of view, from everyone I knew in high school, a

1093
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,480
percentage of couples remain together leave after high school or

1094
00:49:47,519 --> 00:49:50,239
college extremely low. Max and Luca's surprise because that love

1095
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:56,360
is deep, but few others do. I I get the sentiment.

1096
00:49:57,079 --> 00:50:02,599
For me, it's just if that character Vicky's gonna have

1097
00:50:02,599 --> 00:50:04,599
as much screen time as she did a little bit

1098
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:10,119
last year and then more so here than to me, yeah,

1099
00:50:10,199 --> 00:50:12,239
you should answer it. That's one that doesn't bug me.

1100
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,039
Bug me, but it bugs me enough to go. Eh.

1101
00:50:14,519 --> 00:50:16,639
I can look past the Demi gorans, I can look

1102
00:50:16,639 --> 00:50:18,679
past the military the Vicky one. That's a knock I'll

1103
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,000
have on you because to me, I've said before I

1104
00:50:21,039 --> 00:50:23,559
would much rather rewrite a little bit and have Erica

1105
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,840
with Max. When I said, I don't care what happened

1106
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,559
to Erica. To me, she was just like a graduation

1107
00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:29,480
gonna go and have a good life. She wasn't main

1108
00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:31,960
a character that I need to flash forward. But she's

1109
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,239
still a sub character. Not that I want in the

1110
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,559
adventure more. I felt like she was very sidelined this season.

1111
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,719
Maybe that's something to do with her career or something

1112
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,119
else going on. But if not to me, take out

1113
00:50:41,199 --> 00:50:44,519
Vicky put it there, you could easily just have Robin

1114
00:50:44,679 --> 00:50:46,239
be hooking up with Vicky and not have to do

1115
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:47,920
it a big deal and leave like, oh, it was

1116
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,039
just a girl friend back then, right, because the reason

1117
00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:52,000
I wanted so for Mike to see or sorry for

1118
00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:53,880
will to see that, and that comes with him coming

1119
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,199
out right, you can still get that there, but I

1120
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,559
just feel like to give for the big role she

1121
00:50:58,679 --> 00:51:01,960
did and then not answer what but Stewart that feels

1122
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,360
a little Eh, that's a knockoff for me. That's a point.

1123
00:51:05,679 --> 00:51:09,000
You don't get the the you know, the pass on

1124
00:51:09,079 --> 00:51:11,280
that one. This one, I didn't even care about people.

1125
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,960
Why didn't Joyce and Hawk recognize vecnas Henry k Krill.

1126
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,559
I don't know time change. I don't think like and

1127
00:51:16,679 --> 00:51:18,519
even then like what do we need a fine saying

1128
00:51:18,519 --> 00:51:20,880
we went to school to him and he acted like this, no,

1129
00:51:21,079 --> 00:51:22,679
like literally, I'm just finding like, oh, that's a kid

1130
00:51:22,679 --> 00:51:24,679
they went to school like Augie's isn't big but it's

1131
00:51:24,679 --> 00:51:26,079
like there's still enough people that I'm sure you don't

1132
00:51:26,119 --> 00:51:28,800
know everybody, right, so I didn't need that one. If

1133
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,199
that bugs you, sure, but uh yeah, I know there's

1134
00:51:31,199 --> 00:51:32,719
some about to play and stuff like that, but I

1135
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,039
doesn't matter to me and say thing of this one too.

1136
00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:37,400
This is where I feel like some people and I

1137
00:51:37,519 --> 00:51:39,719
didn't watch, but there was this TikTok going around on

1138
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,920
Twitter where it's like the forty three unanswered questions. I

1139
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,159
watched about minute of it, and there was ones like this,

1140
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,239
but then there was my ones where it's like I

1141
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,000
don't really care. There's some big ones I definitely like

1142
00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:51,320
the pregnant Lady, even Vicky Understond and some of these.

1143
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,880
It's different strokes for different folks, right, If some of

1144
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,320
these are all these are big for you, if it's

1145
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,559
your fair show of all time, then I get it.

1146
00:51:57,599 --> 00:51:59,199
But for me, it's like some of these are stretching.

1147
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,639
Even then, like when they of this question why will

1148
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,480
buyers did not feel pain? When the mind Flare and

1149
00:52:03,559 --> 00:52:05,760
Vecna were attacked to me, I didn't take that as

1150
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,239
like and they'll have an answer, I guess I'll read that, right. Well,

1151
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,119
we weren't showing him when the mind Flare is being attacked,

1152
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:14,079
when he's being decaptived, at that point, the mind Flare

1153
00:52:14,159 --> 00:52:16,440
is dead. So at that point the several connection between

1154
00:52:16,519 --> 00:52:18,840
him and Vecna and when the mind Flair is getting attacked,

1155
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,559
we see how much pain he's in off see Henry's memories.

1156
00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:22,880
But I just want to focus on the fine about

1157
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,440
and that's fine, ma, And to me, it's just like

1158
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,360
I'm fine with him feeling everything and the memories and

1159
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,199
everything like that, but I don't think I like, I

1160
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,760
think it's okay if I don't think it established like

1161
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,639
when Will gets cold, like that thing gets cool, but

1162
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,880
like that's I'm finally that's like the other way around.

1163
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,480
I guess it's like maybe a copped up for me.

1164
00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:40,920
But even their answer here, I it works for me,

1165
00:52:41,079 --> 00:52:43,199
Like I didn't need this, Like Will needs to feel

1166
00:52:43,199 --> 00:52:45,400
exactly he needs to die, he needs to feeling in

1167
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,840
his throat when Joyce's choppings out. No, like I was

1168
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,239
finally being cut off, like I worked enough for me,

1169
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,000
you know. So that's where all these questions, all these

1170
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,719
plot holes or you know, whatever, that comes down to

1171
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:01,679
what you look for in the importance of this story, right,

1172
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,599
I think some are bad. I think some are stretches.

1173
00:53:03,639 --> 00:53:06,039
I think some are in the middle of what you prefer, right,

1174
00:53:06,199 --> 00:53:10,000
So that's it for Stranger Things. I probably will talk

1175
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,719
about Stranger Things again with the boys at some point

1176
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,079
once they catch up on what we've been watching, and

1177
00:53:14,199 --> 00:53:15,880
maybe even when we do an after and I'd like

1178
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,440
to see everyone's thoughts on that. But uh, yeah, that's

1179
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,320
it for that. We got about ten minutes left, so

1180
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,079
we'll go over the box office this weekend here, and

1181
00:53:24,199 --> 00:53:25,920
it was obviously New Year's as well, so but again,

1182
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,880
thank you to everybody because I see another big chat.

1183
00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:30,000
I'm sure most people tune in for the Stranger Things

1184
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:34,159
stuff appreciate the last episode and this episode just doing

1185
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,639
big numbers for the channel, So I very much appreciate

1186
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,079
and thank you. And yeah, hey, if there is a

1187
00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:42,199
secret episode, I'll be here. For the prequel, I'll probably

1188
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:43,679
be here. And if you like what we did and

1189
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,480
you want to hear my thoughts or other people, as

1190
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,119
I've said before, I do this podcast with three other guys.

1191
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,480
That's the preferred method. Obviously I was just the one

1192
00:53:50,519 --> 00:53:52,760
watching this, but that's preferred method because it's a bunch

1193
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,559
of us like if you like the stranger things dynamic

1194
00:53:54,599 --> 00:53:56,480
of just people hanging out. That's what we are. We're

1195
00:53:56,519 --> 00:53:58,760
not critics, we're not pundits. We're just a bunch of

1196
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,239
friends talking about this suff having a good time. We've

1197
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,639
had a lot of people, which I think, whether it

1198
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,400
was joining the patren or in the survey saying hey,

1199
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,559
I got a lot of people in my life that

1200
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,480
I used to talk to this geek stuff with they're gone,

1201
00:54:12,679 --> 00:54:14,679
like not ted, but just like they don't watch anymore.

1202
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,880
We've grown apart. You know, we're don't see each other

1203
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,880
every day, people saying oh, I get to whether it's

1204
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,239
listening with you guys or talking in discord and sharing

1205
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,320
these thoughts with the geek stuff. It's a good community.

1206
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,599
That's been some of the best off And I will

1207
00:54:28,639 --> 00:54:31,480
say some even some of the reviews or whatnot that

1208
00:54:31,599 --> 00:54:34,280
people have said and just like out thoughts is like

1209
00:54:34,639 --> 00:54:37,480
some really just there's one message is the best message

1210
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,840
we've ever gone from geek first and I that's where

1211
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,880
the serves that are anonymous, so we can't say who

1212
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,079
it is. I'll read it on air when we eventually

1213
00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:46,320
maybe talk about them and whatnot. And it was a

1214
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,000
very nice review. And if we can make your day better,

1215
00:54:49,159 --> 00:54:51,719
make it easier when you're at work or just like

1216
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,800
that where this geek stuff happens and you will talk

1217
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,280
to it. Now you have nobody, you know. Obviously we're

1218
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,000
far out, and obviously we are still providing a service,

1219
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,639
which I get it. You guys pays for that, but

1220
00:55:00,679 --> 00:55:02,599
you guys pay us to create more and talk about

1221
00:55:02,599 --> 00:55:04,719
all this stuff more and we appreciate that and we

1222
00:55:05,119 --> 00:55:06,800
love you for that. And again, so yeah, if you

1223
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,880
like this, join, I think we have a fun community.

1224
00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:12,159
We've not had to banning assolding, that couple bots. That's

1225
00:55:12,199 --> 00:55:15,159
about it. But uh yeah, that's it. So stranger things

1226
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,280
might be the clo the book might be pretty much

1227
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,400
closed on that. Let's see here. Avatar, Fire and Ash

1228
00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:24,199
was number one at forty millions. Utopia was number two

1229
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,559
at nineteen million. We'll start there. Avatar did cross a

1230
00:55:27,639 --> 00:55:30,400
billion this week, so even if to me it's at

1231
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,960
a billion and the other one's two point three offuse

1232
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,639
that could be like a big disappointment, but like still

1233
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,239
made a billion. Movies are rarely making a billion nowadays,

1234
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,920
so Utopia is one point five passed. What was it

1235
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,320
Frozen two to be Disney's biggest animated movie. It's looking

1236
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,920
to try and get onto Inside Out too, and it could.

1237
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,599
Right now, it keeps going up. We're like Avatar. I

1238
00:55:51,679 --> 00:55:53,119
think it was last week where was like, Avatar is

1239
00:55:53,159 --> 00:55:56,199
projected at one point five to one point seven and

1240
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,880
Utopia is projected like one point six to one point eight.

1241
00:56:00,199 --> 00:56:02,000
So could beat it, could not because obviously there's a

1242
00:56:02,039 --> 00:56:04,280
couple bets in the discord of who's gonna wins Utopia

1243
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:09,239
an Avatar ash Avatar ash. But then this weekend was like, oh,

1244
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,880
Avatar could hit like one point seven to two billion,

1245
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,320
and then Utopia could be like one point eight to

1246
00:56:15,639 --> 00:56:18,559
two point one billion. So it's just like, okay, these

1247
00:56:18,599 --> 00:56:21,119
things keep I didn't see this weekend. That was my bad.

1248
00:56:21,159 --> 00:56:23,559
I didn't see how it compared to like the third

1249
00:56:23,599 --> 00:56:25,440
weekend of Avatar Way of Water, So that was my

1250
00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:28,960
bad on that one, but still both doing well like Avatar.

1251
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,639
People love those Blue Alians. If if I said Avatar

1252
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,840
was going to I still think hitting a billion out

1253
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,039
of that's big. I know the cost is there for Avatar.

1254
00:56:39,079 --> 00:56:42,840
I know the other ones were almost three billion, almost

1255
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,039
two point five minute, but still hitting a billion is

1256
00:56:45,039 --> 00:56:48,440
still a big deal, especially now post COVID, all the streaming,

1257
00:56:48,599 --> 00:56:51,760
all the options, that's a big deal. So for me,

1258
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,119
that's already a big win. If they get to the

1259
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,280
what I said, the one point seven, that's a very

1260
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,639
big win. If they get to two billion, so yeah,

1261
00:56:58,679 --> 00:57:00,679
that's a very big one because that's just like only

1262
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,760
three hundred million less than the last one. That's big.

1263
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,320
I think, no matter what, we're going to Avatar four

1264
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,280
and five, but like that's still big. And then Utopia, Yeah,

1265
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,840
I the fact that it will It could be the

1266
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,840
fact that right now it's projected to beat Avatar three. Officusely,

1267
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,119
that could change, but I didn't think that. I thought

1268
00:57:17,119 --> 00:57:19,480
the international box officer Avatar would still pull it forward.

1269
00:57:19,559 --> 00:57:21,480
Now granted they could be like within a few million

1270
00:57:21,519 --> 00:57:24,719
of each other, but still I thought Avatar would beat it,

1271
00:57:25,639 --> 00:57:28,079
not handily, but at least by like one hundred to

1272
00:57:28,119 --> 00:57:30,480
two hundred million. So both too and well, And that's

1273
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:32,760
great to see for the cinemas obviously, right, like obviously

1274
00:57:33,039 --> 00:57:35,000
it's IP stuff, but you still want to see stuff

1275
00:57:35,039 --> 00:57:38,039
doing well. And the two other stories here with Housemaid

1276
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,519
and an Econda Housemaid is at is that updated? I

1277
00:57:42,599 --> 00:57:44,920
thought it cross Mad's gonna cross Housemaids. It saysn't that

1278
00:57:45,039 --> 00:57:47,800
ninety two million, but I think it's I thought I

1279
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,480
saw somewhere it was that one hundred million. So obviously

1280
00:57:50,519 --> 00:57:53,559
big hit. One line's get's biggest hits in the last decade.

1281
00:57:53,559 --> 00:57:56,320
So again, as we told it last episode, I think

1282
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,960
that's more so the placement and the good counter programming

1283
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,519
because as we've seen everything sitting Swinging it does is

1284
00:58:02,519 --> 00:58:04,760
a massive hit, but still very good for her. And

1285
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,119
then the other big story is it hasn't happened yet,

1286
00:58:07,159 --> 00:58:10,360
but it's just about to hit sixty million. Is Marty supreme?

1287
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,840
Like I said, just about to hit sixty million, it's

1288
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,840
projected to hit one hundred million, which would be a

1289
00:58:16,239 --> 00:58:19,480
milestone for A twenty four. Again, whatever you want to

1290
00:58:19,519 --> 00:58:23,079
feel like the marketing. If you didn't like the rap video,

1291
00:58:23,119 --> 00:58:25,960
didn't like this, doesn't matter. He got out there. I

1292
00:58:26,159 --> 00:58:28,280
saw the movie and I'm not gonna And here's another

1293
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,800
question too, Mike. You did ask me. You said I

1294
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,280
saw your cape out you saw that I logged capo

1295
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,280
op Dean Hunters letter box kind of get a quick review.

1296
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,000
What was your favorite song? I won't review it because

1297
00:58:38,119 --> 00:58:40,559
this week, I will do my twenty twenty six, you know,

1298
00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:43,800
ultimate ranking. So what I do is for every movie

1299
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,159
I didn't review on the feed here, i'll give like

1300
00:58:46,199 --> 00:58:48,840
a mini review. I got about eighty two, eighty three.

1301
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,000
I'm just a couple movies under last year, but the

1302
00:58:51,079 --> 00:58:52,920
Twins kind of gone the way, so I won't give

1303
00:58:53,039 --> 00:58:56,440
my review. I will say is my favorite song is

1304
00:58:58,079 --> 00:59:00,400
find Out. I don't know what it is. I think

1305
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:04,639
it's like, oh, what's it? Sound like? Great track, just

1306
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,039
like with Frozen. For Frozen two, I can't remember what

1307
00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:11,400
that main song is. Ah, damn it. I can't, Oh,

1308
00:59:12,639 --> 00:59:15,360
show yourself whatever that one is. I like them more

1309
00:59:15,559 --> 00:59:19,639
like melo dramatic with those slow building, quiet melodies and

1310
00:59:19,639 --> 00:59:22,760
they build that. That's Travis stuff. K Pop has a

1311
00:59:23,039 --> 00:59:26,480
fantastic so it's one of the best soundtracks ever. I'll

1312
00:59:26,519 --> 00:59:28,679
say that. We'll talk about the movie when I get there,

1313
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,800
but as far as like, it's been a while since

1314
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:35,119
I've seen a musical or anything that's had like four

1315
00:59:35,159 --> 00:59:37,480
to five, Like, oh, these are all bangers, even like

1316
00:59:37,519 --> 00:59:39,519
five to six, Like it's some good stuff. So we'll

1317
00:59:39,559 --> 00:59:41,880
talk about that on the rankings episode later on this week.

1318
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,119
That one probably won't be my life, but it'll be

1319
00:59:44,199 --> 00:59:48,760
on Patreon. But so with my supreme I won't say

1320
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,679
what I felt about it. I won't say I'll give

1321
00:59:50,679 --> 00:59:53,000
you a full review, and I do my ranks. I'm

1322
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,840
not gonna log it because I mean, that's my selling

1323
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,920
point for the Traves two. That's my six ranks. I

1324
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,159
have seen it, but it was myself, older gentleman who

1325
01:00:00,199 --> 01:00:02,159
sat in the second row. Don't know why it was

1326
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,320
empty enough theater. Then there was a couple two in

1327
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,320
front of me. Thank you, April. Into the Unknown, Yeah,

1328
01:00:07,599 --> 01:00:11,000
that shit right there. Yeah, that's I prefer Frozen two

1329
01:00:11,119 --> 01:00:12,599
or Frozen one. Both of them to me are very

1330
01:00:12,719 --> 01:00:15,639
like six six point five. I don't think they're great movies.

1331
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,559
I think they're very overrated. But Into the Unknown that's

1332
01:00:19,639 --> 01:00:22,039
some good stuff right there, like a way more than

1333
01:00:22,119 --> 01:00:25,800
Let It Go so for me though, Then in the

1334
01:00:26,159 --> 01:00:29,360
audience there was this is a nine to forty showing

1335
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,320
on a Sunday. There was generally a group of eight

1336
01:00:34,079 --> 01:00:36,679
i'll say young adults to teens. I think they are

1337
01:00:36,719 --> 01:00:38,760
teenagers either or in high school or just fresh at

1338
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,679
high school. And they were young, and that's why I'm

1339
01:00:40,719 --> 01:00:43,679
not seen that at a twenty four movies, Chalamea is

1340
01:00:43,719 --> 01:00:45,639
working and the fact that he can as right now,

1341
01:00:45,719 --> 01:00:47,639
things can always change because I got desk streading and

1342
01:00:47,639 --> 01:00:49,960
got ellen ring. But as of right now, for not

1343
01:00:50,199 --> 01:00:52,800
even then, those are ips non ip for him to

1344
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,400
get the biggest opening weekend and then the first wee

1345
01:00:55,599 --> 01:00:57,599
hit one hundred million, and maybe that could be the biggest.

1346
01:00:58,079 --> 01:01:00,360
I imagine it'd be the biggest movie right for a

1347
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:04,239
twenty four I think, does that sayn right? I feel

1348
01:01:04,239 --> 01:01:06,599
like they've had something one Hunter, but maybe not maybe

1349
01:01:06,719 --> 01:01:08,599
like let me see, I don't have time for that.

1350
01:01:09,039 --> 01:01:10,480
We got eight insless. I don't have time to bring

1351
01:01:10,519 --> 01:01:13,159
all up. But the fact that all this is still

1352
01:01:13,239 --> 01:01:18,480
happening shows he's working. And uh yeah, I'll I'll just

1353
01:01:18,599 --> 01:01:21,639
say he put both the campaign and the movie on

1354
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,280
his back and it definitely paid off. And uh A

1355
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,480
preview for my thoughts is to me, if the Academy

1356
01:01:27,519 --> 01:01:30,639
doesn't knight him, there is something up going on there.

1357
01:01:31,199 --> 01:01:34,760
Uh there. To me, it's one of those performances where

1358
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,280
it's like this is obvious, right, like this this kind

1359
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,000
of has to happened to me. If it doesn't happen,

1360
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,320
it's like, oh, you really just want to stick with

1361
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:41,719
the narrative, like, well, we don't like give them the

1362
01:01:41,719 --> 01:01:44,480
young guys the oscars And it was like, all right,

1363
01:01:44,599 --> 01:01:46,800
but that's what I'll say the movie. How I feel

1364
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,039
with that, I don't know, but performance wise, yes, and

1365
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,079
that's huge to have those two milestones like that shows

1366
01:01:52,199 --> 01:01:53,920
now can he do it with every movie? I'm not

1367
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,280
gonna say that, but it shows he's Bill and the

1368
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,159
fan base and he again that family he's dating and

1369
01:01:59,199 --> 01:02:01,679
with right now, not that that doesn't help, right, Like

1370
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,840
that's somebody that like they marketing geniuses, right, I don't

1371
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,000
like there any stuff. I don't like a lot of

1372
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:08,239
the people in their family as far as some of

1373
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,920
the views and things they've said, but and done. But

1374
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:15,039
marketing wise, can't say anything against that, right, smart people,

1375
01:02:15,159 --> 01:02:19,119
So let's see everything everywhere. Okay, that's why maybe it

1376
01:02:19,199 --> 01:02:21,039
was just the maybe I was wrong then April maybe

1377
01:02:21,039 --> 01:02:23,239
it was like it's the fastest to hit one hundred million.

1378
01:02:23,239 --> 01:02:24,880
I think that's what's gonna happen, maur super I think

1379
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,360
that's that so still great milestone, right, and I think

1380
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:31,360
if it hits one hundred million in the next little

1381
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,840
bit and I do think with Oscars, I think it

1382
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,480
I think he has a good shot of winning bet

1383
01:02:36,199 --> 01:02:37,800
the Oscar. I think it does have a shot of

1384
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,280
winning Best Picture. I still in one bat after another

1385
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,480
is what I'm rocking. But you never know. I think

1386
01:02:42,559 --> 01:02:44,559
the awards and the hype that'll give it more boosts

1387
01:02:44,599 --> 01:02:47,360
as well, so it could beat everything everywhere. Like, I

1388
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,440
don't think it's out of the realm of possibility to

1389
01:02:49,559 --> 01:02:52,880
do that. So I think for me even then, like

1390
01:02:53,519 --> 01:02:56,199
all the milestones is good for him, right, that's just

1391
01:02:56,239 --> 01:02:58,519
stuff that he can lay out as far as Okay,

1392
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,960
especially the next time he doesn't twenty four movie or

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anything like that, super easy, be like, hey, I did this, this,

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this and this and this. Give me the budget because

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that's one thing. Movie looks great. It is seventy million.

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Don't know where all at seventy million went. It's like,

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I think it looks great. I don't know if it

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looks like seventy million great, Like, don't get me wrong,

1399
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it's just like that's all money for like an a

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twenty four smaller movie about ping pong. But I digress.

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It does look great. So but yes, I'll talk about

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that last week. So we'll see I Like I said,

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I'm basing my Wednesday episode about if the guest joins me,

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and that might be my movie ranking episode. If big

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01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,880
news drops, that might change you guys know how Trash

1406
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:36,760
told you gos. It's kind of ebbs and flows when

1407
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we go where the news takes us. And that's where,

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like I said, I even saw a good suggestion to

1409
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someone saying, oh, what have you do an evergreen topic

1410
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at the end of an episode? Uh, that might be

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something happened. It's just like I never know, like how

1412
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many like I don't never know how long a topic's

1413
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gonna take, and then I never know who's gonna be

1414
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a live chat right, or the questions I get too

1415
01:03:53,559 --> 01:03:55,960
sometimes with it's just like a newscast. I'll call for

1416
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questions and maybe people out the topics and there's just

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one or two right, and then some the like five

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to six. So it's tough for me to judge. So

1419
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that's not a bad idea, but I might try to

1420
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do just That's why I might section is okay, maybe

1421
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,719
once a month I make sure I do one evergreen

1422
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,079
topic for the patrons and then you can actually try

1423
01:04:11,159 --> 01:04:12,960
have told you, because then I don't clog up the

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feed as well. So there we go. We've done it.

1425
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Thank you very much to everybody that tuned in for

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the twenty twenty six first episode. Has told you the

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first episode of Geek first, I said, tomorrow side Quest

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that is up the twenty twenty six game per that's

1429
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gonna be tons of fun. Me and Dylan are doing

1430
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a full fallout review from episodes two to four, and

1431
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,400
then we get the movie preview. Patrons, you'll get that

1432
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early because they'll be trash told you on the feed.

1433
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And then yeah, what else and then the gimmick Sunday

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eleven am pst our best of for the year. We're

1435
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gonna talk with W and AW what's our favorite match,

1436
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,800
favorite gear, favorite wrestler, all that stuff Ferret Show. So

1437
01:04:45,239 --> 01:04:46,719
thank you very much that we're not tune in. I

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promise when you hear from me next it'll not be born.