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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Deep Blue Sea the Podcast. I

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<v Speaker 1>am Mark the w and l Halfmire.

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<v Speaker 2>And I am Jay Aquatica Obstacle Course CLO's welcome here

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<v Speaker 2>boy DPC the podcast. On this show, we've been to

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<v Speaker 2>the entire Deep Blue Sea Turgy seene by the scene.

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<v Speaker 2>How will do it again with all new wonderful guests,

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<v Speaker 2>because we just love this film so much and this

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<v Speaker 2>is DeepC one, chapter twenty nine. What happens in chapter

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nine, Let's have a listen. The surface level of

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<v Speaker 2>Aquatica is in flaming, crumbling ruins. Susan dresses preachers wounded leg.

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<v Speaker 2>She wipes his forehead and he opens.

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<v Speaker 3>His eyes.

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<v Speaker 4>Level, you know, because his eyes. Susan joins Carter outside.

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<v Speaker 5>It'll be okay if we can get out of here.

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<v Speaker 4>They survey the scene and Carter has a realization.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not a little bitch what those fences are titanium underneath,

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<v Speaker 6>but on top they're just playing steel. They've been hurting us,

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<v Speaker 6>pushing us where they won, using us to flood the facility.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the answer to the riddle, because that's what an

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<v Speaker 6>eight thousand pound mako thinks about about freedom. About the

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<v Speaker 6>deep blue sea.

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<v Speaker 5>We have to kill her.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, that's the first real smart thing you've said all day.

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<v Speaker 4>A clone of water up. So the shark is bashing

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<v Speaker 4>against the fence.

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<v Speaker 6>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>Carter and Susan make their way across the broken wall place.

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<v Speaker 4>A shark continues to bash against the fence. At the armory,

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<v Speaker 4>Carter han Susan a harpoon gun and a box.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 4>He carries a large battery. As they head up some

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<v Speaker 4>stone steps. They unscrew the gun and begin pouring gunpowder

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<v Speaker 6>We ought to get about two and a half six

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<v Speaker 6>of dynamite out of these flares.

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<v Speaker 4>Carter loads it into the harpoon gun.

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<v Speaker 1>From up here.

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<v Speaker 6>You ought to be able to see me spirit when

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<v Speaker 6>I do. You take this end of the cable, hook

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<v Speaker 6>it up to the positive side of the boat battery,

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<v Speaker 6>and boom.

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<v Speaker 4>Susan doesn't look confident that she takes the other end

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<v Speaker 4>of the wire.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was keep see waiting Chapter twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>J Jay, I want to see a deep blues like

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<v Speaker 1>you know the show wipe Out and like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know those shows where people have to run optical verses

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<v Speaker 1>and just wipe out. I want to see like an

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<v Speaker 1>aquatica version of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, me too, with sharks, of course, with sharks, and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll need someone's advice on what sharks to put in

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<v Speaker 2>that facility, and the best person to ask be our

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<v Speaker 2>guest this week is doctor Jack Cooper.

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<v Speaker 3>Jack, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 5>Well Jay, and hello Mark, and thanks so much for

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<v Speaker 5>having me.

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<v Speaker 1>This is your first time watching Deep Blue CY? Sorry? Jay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is awesome. This is great, Yes, it is, it is.

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<v Speaker 5>I've seen many a shark film my time, but incredibly

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<v Speaker 5>one of those films that eluded me all this time

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<v Speaker 5>was Deep BLUEC. So it was great to be asked

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<v Speaker 5>to come on. I got and it's just to finally

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<v Speaker 5>watch this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and well, so I think you're our first shark expert.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had like shark fans on, but you're like a

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<v Speaker 2>proper paleobiologist megaladorn expert shark advocate. I'm just reading off

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<v Speaker 2>for your website at this point, but you're a full

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<v Speaker 2>like proper shark guy.

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<v Speaker 3>And so why why why didn't you watch there?

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<v Speaker 5>Now a pretty reasonable question. It was on my list

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<v Speaker 5>for years and years and I just never got round

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<v Speaker 5>to it. Have doing a PhD. Unfortunately, you don't have

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of free time, so I think I just

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<v Speaker 5>needed the push and coming here was finally the thing

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<v Speaker 5>that maybe what sit down and are You watch it and.

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<v Speaker 1>It changed your life and you'll never be the same.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I will say it's some of the best movie

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<v Speaker 5>I've watched about genetically modified.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, how do you feel about them picking goo

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<v Speaker 1>sharks for this? You know, they're fast, they can jump,

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<v Speaker 1>they they like it's it's it's not the bull shark,

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of a neat and almost smart decision to

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<v Speaker 1>make Mako sharks. They're not really the bad guys because

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<v Speaker 1>you're just trying to escape prison. But like, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think about the idea to get Maco sharks in this?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I thought that was a really interesting idea because obviously,

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<v Speaker 5>in anyone who has seen any shark movie knows that

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<v Speaker 5>the Great White is the most famous one and the

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<v Speaker 5>one that they love to put in the movies. So

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<v Speaker 5>it's always nice when there's an appreciation for a different

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<v Speaker 5>kind of shark. I don't know the mako is closely

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<v Speaker 5>related to the white shark. You're right, and that's a

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<v Speaker 5>very different kind of shark. It's famously the fastest shark

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<v Speaker 5>known to man. I can swim it about possibly as

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<v Speaker 5>much as forty five miles per hour, and that a

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<v Speaker 5>lot makes them quite scary form.

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<v Speaker 1>Without one, without genetic modification.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, and that makes for very interesting. It's nice to

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<v Speaker 5>see a different kind of shark in this kind of movie.

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<v Speaker 5>And I like your points where you say they're not

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<v Speaker 5>tenky the bad guys. That was actually one of the

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<v Speaker 5>things I really enjoyed it took away from Deep Blue

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<v Speaker 5>c is that generally, yes, the sharks are killing and

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<v Speaker 5>eating everyone, but if anything, the bad guy is essentially

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<v Speaker 5>man who has messed with these sharks and tried to

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<v Speaker 5>use them for man's own end. And I thought that

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<v Speaker 5>was a very fascinating take on the shark film.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're not like the psychic evil shark

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<v Speaker 1>from Jaws, the revenge you just want to revenge. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just the super hungry shark from Jaws. They're just like,

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<v Speaker 1>get me out of here. We're smart, like we want

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<v Speaker 1>to be in the ocean. Let's heard these humans and

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<v Speaker 1>kill them and get them out of here. And I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. It makes me it makes me really happy. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you like the design of the sharks? Did you? Did

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<v Speaker 1>they look good for you?

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<v Speaker 5>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Were they? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>They did look good. They actually looked very close to

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<v Speaker 5>what a real life maker looks like. And given that

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<v Speaker 5>this film was made in nineteen ninety nine, I was

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<v Speaker 5>pleasantly surprised and pretty impressed by that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm just gonna keep asking you questions that I

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<v Speaker 1>know will have good answers so I can just be like, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this movie is great.

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<v Speaker 3>This movie is great.

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<v Speaker 1>Sharks people, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna got jay.

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<v Speaker 5>I've never known a shark to hurt people, and that's

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<v Speaker 5>the most still about again, so I can give.

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<v Speaker 3>This is this chapter.

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<v Speaker 2>We there's not a lot of sharks in the chapter

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<v Speaker 2>compared to the ones we've had, but this is the

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<v Speaker 2>one where they talk about the motivation of the sharks

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<v Speaker 2>to to get out for the deep Blue c I know.

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<v Speaker 3>This is all this is a genum modified is all hypothetical.

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<v Speaker 2>But does that make sense to you? As your are

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<v Speaker 2>are gonna be all our resident shark X. But we're

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna assume you know everything inside out of every

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<v Speaker 2>shark and every in the whole world.

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<v Speaker 3>So does that make sense to you from the perspective

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<v Speaker 3>of a shark expert.

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<v Speaker 7>Sharks in the context of the film, Sure there is

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<v Speaker 7>good enough, well great white scan living captivity, right, so

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<v Speaker 7>I bet you know some sharks just don't can't survive

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<v Speaker 1>So even though they're in the ocean, they probably they

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<v Speaker 1>want out. macOS want to swim.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, absolutely, and you're right they're great. White sharks very

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<v Speaker 5>rarely have successfully been keptain captivity. I can only think

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<v Speaker 5>of one, and even then they had to release it

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<v Speaker 5>in the end. And a lot of that's due to

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<v Speaker 5>the fact that these sharks are ram ventilators, which means

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<v Speaker 5>they have to continuously swim across a big stretch of

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<v Speaker 5>sea in order to just stay alive. And that's true

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<v Speaker 5>of white sharks, and it's also true of makos that

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<v Speaker 5>are their close relatives. So make you could very well

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<v Speaker 5>see us a pretty good motivation for a genetically modified

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<v Speaker 5>mako shark.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, like you guys are killing us. We can't be

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<v Speaker 1>start it's a nice little pen, like if this was

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<v Speaker 1>a zoo, it'd be an adequate pen. But we're like

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<v Speaker 1>we can destroy cameras and like we can heard people

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<v Speaker 1>like let me out of here, like, let me go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead with.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't see the sharks sitting still, so I don't

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm guessing you haven't seen Deep with C two Jack.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, I haven't seen two or three, but I

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<v Speaker 5>know they exist.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have you back, don't you worry. So the TBC

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<v Speaker 2>two and three look at bull sharks, and there is

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<v Speaker 2>a scene ind WC two a bull shark sat or

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<v Speaker 2>not sack, just stationary at the window, watching listening to

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<v Speaker 2>a conversation happening inside the room by two people. But

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<v Speaker 2>the shark isn't moving. It's kind of stationary.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm guessing of all the things I've just said in

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<v Speaker 3>that scene, that's the bit that's least likely to be believable.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the shark and not moving.

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<v Speaker 5>Certainly not a polatic shark like a bull shark. Any

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<v Speaker 5>sharks that do stand sort of just sit still and

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<v Speaker 5>a moving tend to be sharks that live on the

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<v Speaker 5>sea bottom and so nothing like a bull shark. But

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<v Speaker 5>you've got me interested to watch it now, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So three has a similar scene three it's favorite scene.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about a guy who wants to prevent a robot

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<v Speaker 1>AI apocalypse, so he making bull sharks smarter and using

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<v Speaker 1>their brain juice. He's drinking their brain juice to give

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<v Speaker 1>himself limitless powers like Bradley Cooper to prevent the robot apocalypse.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the greatest plot. It's the greatest plot of every

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<v Speaker 1>any excuse that I have to explain the plot of

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<v Speaker 1>Deep Blue cy I take it because.

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<v Speaker 2>You get you get baby bullshots and pans, you get

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<v Speaker 2>a shark, heat's a drone at one point, it's glorious.

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<v Speaker 2>It's we're looking forward to bring it again.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a doctor called doctor Misty Calhoun, yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a guy called Trent Slator or Slater Trent,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we keep messing up his name. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a gorgeous movie to behold. So you've been

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<v Speaker 1>on the Jaws Minute podcast a lot, like what was

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<v Speaker 1>it nice to have a break to watch some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of Deep Blue silliness aside for like you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know it's Jaws is just like a don't

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<v Speaker 1>call classic and I you know, I've been thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>Jaws lately, where like it's narrative is set. It's a classic,

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<v Speaker 1>even if there's think pieces saying it's not that good.

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<v Speaker 1>The world just considers it to be like at all timer,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel like Deep Blue Sea. The reason why

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<v Speaker 1>I love it so much, it's like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not like sharks themselves, but like I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of misunderstood and people don't think it's good,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's a real like. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's narrative is fair. I think it's actually a really

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<v Speaker 5>So to answer to your first bit, it is definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice, different questions different.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's nice to talk about different shark because, besides Jaws,

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<v Speaker 5>because of my research on Megalodon, and that's also sort

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<v Speaker 5>of a big, dumb, silly, fun movie but doesn't have

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<v Speaker 5>quite the interesting thematic resence that say Deep Blue c has.

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<v Speaker 5>shark film, which is your Jaws is basically or something

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<v Speaker 5>like The Shallows. And then there's your big, dumb, silly

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<v Speaker 5>go really b movie, things like Mega Shark Versus Giant

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<v Speaker 5>the air. So a lot of that's going to depend

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<v Speaker 5>on not just how much you care about shark conservation

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<v Speaker 5>or specifically how you feel about sharks being depicted, but

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<v Speaker 5>also just your taste in movies in general. And as

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah is it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Jay.

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<v Speaker 2>We cover the full spectrum on here as well. We've

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<v Speaker 2>done all the sharknadoes, we cover them all, but we've

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<v Speaker 2>also done like open Water and the reef and the

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<v Speaker 2>more serious stuff. I tend to prefer the sillier side

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<v Speaker 2>of things, Mark Clubs, everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love movies. Films are flicks, you know any

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<v Speaker 1>of them. And so you know, Jaws, I know kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sparked a not like a backlash. I mean, people

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<v Speaker 1>should be smart enough to know it's a book.

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<v Speaker 3>Or a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, sharks got hurt by that film, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, open water of the reef, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like more of a realistic kind of view where

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it hurts them. It's just like they're

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<v Speaker 1>out here to kill you. You're in this vast open ocean,

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<v Speaker 1>and it might happen, there might be sharks, But I

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<v Speaker 1>think Deep Blue Sea works because it's like, it's not Shane.

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<v Speaker 1>The sharks are built like, it doesn't villainize them, like

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<v Speaker 1>everyone watching it isn't like, yeah, go fin them, Like

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<v Speaker 1>they're just like, yeah, these poor sharks, like they've been modified.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's kind of a nice subversion of

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<v Speaker 1>like Killer Shark movie where they're more.

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<v Speaker 2>Sotic guys into at the start of two the shark

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<v Speaker 2>finners and they get taken out immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah they yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>When I sat down to watch the movie, the very

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<v Speaker 5>first scene you have the boats at my mediful was,

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<v Speaker 5>I know what's happening here, We're gonna get a shark

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<v Speaker 5>and see here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but they sort of survive. No one dies in

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<v Speaker 5>Of indeed that that's sort of like, oh okay, maybe

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know where this is going. And actually, partly

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<v Speaker 5>to what Mark is saying, that is sort of the

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<v Speaker 5>distinction for Deep Blue Sea to me is the fact that, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>the sharks are killing everyone, but they're certainly not the

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<v Speaker 5>monsters per se. They are creations of mankind and essentially

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<v Speaker 5>Macann trying to mess with nature, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 5>a really interesting angle for the shark film that I

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<v Speaker 5>don't think I've seen in any other shark film, so

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<v Speaker 5>it certainly stands out for that reason.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's it's Drassick Park, it's Frankenstein. It's been

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<v Speaker 3>in other.

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<v Speaker 2>Films, but it's the only other film that the same

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<v Speaker 2>year the DEPC came out, Shark Attack came out straight

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<v Speaker 2>to the TV movie, which has a very similar plot

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<v Speaker 2>of sharks being bred to cure cancer, I think, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's much it's as much smaller aspect of it. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's the only other like shark film I can think

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<v Speaker 2>of that has a similar kind of plot. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>assuming you'd knew the Sam Jackson death scene prior to

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<v Speaker 5>So that was the one scene I knew of going in, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>And it's funny had I not known that I would

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<v Speaker 5>have been watching this film and thinking Samuel Jackson was

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<v Speaker 5>the main character with the way they introduced him and

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<v Speaker 5>the way he leads the group, which is what makes

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<v Speaker 5>his death scene so iconic. He's literally in the middle

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<v Speaker 5>of giving a heroic monologue than any other movie. That

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<v Speaker 5>would be what drives the group together for the third acts.

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<v Speaker 5>And then he gets eaten. Just incredible, It's great.

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<v Speaker 1>And what do you think about Whitlock's death where he

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<v Speaker 1>gets carried around, travels all over, uses a battering ram,

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<v Speaker 1>looks at his his you know, wife or girlfriend as

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<v Speaker 1>he's about to corrack through the glass, Like, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think about that? Gnarly kill?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, both of the walls.

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<v Speaker 1>You might so love it. We said it many times

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<v Speaker 1>that Rena Halland loves killing people really hard, and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he does that in this one.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. And if you've got to get a big recently

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<v Speaker 5>Oscar nominated actor like Stelling scars God and then you

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<v Speaker 5>might as well go all out with Hits.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's some sentimental to his death, right.

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<v Speaker 2>We're recording this just a couple of days after he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't win the Oscar And I'm quite sad because I

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<v Speaker 2>had my hopes on another Deeper Sea cast member getting OSCA.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what the problem is with sentimental value though,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it won Best International Feature, but it's just

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<v Speaker 1>so I've said this many times, Jay, but so emotionally mature.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice, like there's no huge speeches or like flashy melodrama.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just smart people being emotionally mature. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that hurt it. It makes it a very good movie.

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<v Speaker 1>But also it's like it's just so good because it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like big and bold, like one battle after another,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like Sean Penn's performances clash. Yeah, yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have Sean Penn scenes from that. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>Scars Guard is just very good and yeah, yeah perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>And Sean Penn didn't need a third Oscar didn't. You

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<v Speaker 3>can show up for it.

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<v Speaker 2>But if we're talking about the foreign language Oscars, I

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<v Speaker 2>would have gone for it was just an accident. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he should have won a sentimental value because it's phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 5>On a train recently, I loved the Voice of Hidjar before.

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<v Speaker 5>That was an incredible film and I've not seen it,

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<v Speaker 5>but I'm aware of The Secret Agents features a tiger sharks,

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<v Speaker 5>so I need to watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the one. It's the of all

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<v Speaker 2>the films this year. I had the most sharks in

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<v Speaker 2>it in the Oscar Races. I didn't I didn't love

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<v Speaker 2>the Secret Agent because the shark's dead. There's the sharks

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<v Speaker 2>never alive at any point. It's a dead shark throughout.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the point. And they were selling it on Neon.

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<v Speaker 1>They were selling a shark with the leg in its

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<v Speaker 1>mouth on the website and I was like, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get that, but it was sold out. So I almost

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<v Speaker 1>had a shark with a leg in its mouth from

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<v Speaker 1>the Secret Agent from Neon, but I guess everyone bought

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<v Speaker 1>it already. Kind of bummed about that. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to like cure you know, any disease, what shark

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<v Speaker 1>would you use to test on?

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<v Speaker 3>What a question?

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<v Speaker 5>So that's probably not something I you're really anybody can answer.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think I suspect that this plot point came

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<v Speaker 5>from a well regarded myth that sharks don't get cancer. Basically,

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<v Speaker 5>that's not true that we've seen plenty of We've seen

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<v Speaker 5>plenty of sharks that have tumors, Cancer's tumors on them.

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<v Speaker 5>So that sort of the spells out the window. But

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<v Speaker 5>it's a convenient myth you can use for a genetically

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<v Speaker 5>modified shark movie, so we'll go for it's whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, what are those sharks on the blue Blue Planet

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<v Speaker 1>that when the whalefall goes to the bottom of the ocean,

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<v Speaker 1>those gigantic sharks feed off the carcass, like live on

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom. What are they? I know? I know that,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I have a friend that, like he's a one

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<v Speaker 1>entomologist and so he just this thing is neatle So

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<v Speaker 1>I know you don't know every single kind of shark,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know what they are. Those things freak me out.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they'd be good for a horror movie.

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<v Speaker 5>So I suspect you're talking of splunt nosed six skilled sharks,

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<v Speaker 5>which are these very big sharks with six skills on

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<v Speaker 5>each end, and they have these very fleaky comb like

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<v Speaker 5>teeth that can be used to eat really just about

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<v Speaker 5>anything they come across, and they get quite big, so

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<v Speaker 5>they do occasionally eat marine metals. So having I think

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<v Speaker 5>of the scene in like I think it's Blue Planet

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<v Speaker 5>when one of them gets quite close to the sub.

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<v Speaker 5>If that's the shark you're talking about, then it's six

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<v Speaker 5>skale sharks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, those things look awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>That you have a favorite shark shack that hasn't been

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<v Speaker 2>used in a film before waiting.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, And I love answering this because everyone assumes my

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<v Speaker 5>favorite shark is Megalodon, the giant exting shark, and in

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<v Speaker 5>many ways it is. That is what had caused my

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<v Speaker 5>interest in sharks in general. But my favorite living shark

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<v Speaker 5>is actually called a cookie cutter shark.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, yeah, finy.

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<v Speaker 5>Little sharks that swim up to bigger animals, take a

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<v Speaker 5>perfect circular chunk out of them and then some away.

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<v Speaker 5>They probably wouldn't make for very interesting movie because all

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<v Speaker 5>they're doing is taking tiny bites out of people, but

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<v Speaker 5>it would be a different shark movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they're in Shark Knight three D.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to see Shark Knight three D has

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<v Speaker 2>a lake full of different kinds of sharks in it,

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<v Speaker 2>one of which is cookie cutter sharks, So that should

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<v Speaker 2>be on your list to watch next.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess Shark Knight three D.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it is now, Yeah, and there's a scene where

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<v Speaker 1>a great white shark swims past a jet ski that's

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<v Speaker 1>opened it up like it's going like maybe I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>forty miles an hour flying down a river, the shark

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<v Speaker 1>gets past, it goes past, turns around, that jumps out

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<v Speaker 1>of the water and catches the guy when he's jet skiing.

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<v Speaker 3>And a guy has a spit fight with a hammerhead shot

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<v Speaker 3>in the shadows. Yep, these are all things.

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<v Speaker 2>That happen, and it's very realistic film. So when you

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<v Speaker 2>do watch it, you got you got to stick around

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<v Speaker 2>to the end of the credits.

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<v Speaker 3>I won't say why, but you gotta watch the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the credits for Shop.

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<v Speaker 1>Three D have a very important question for you, Jack.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like the meg.

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<v Speaker 3>So?

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<v Speaker 5>I do like the megans a slight spoiler to the

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<v Speaker 5>top four shartms list, and a lot of the reason

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<v Speaker 5>for that is appreciating that it doesn't take itself that seriously.

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<v Speaker 5>It knows exactly what movie it is, and it sort

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<v Speaker 5>of just goes for it, especially sort of compared to

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00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:40.519
<v Speaker 5>the book, which I also liked, but takes itself a

428
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<v Speaker 5>lot more seriously. And generally, my logic towards the Meg

429
00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:48.480
<v Speaker 5>films has always been, yes, they're stupid and don't make

430
00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:51.680
<v Speaker 5>a lot of sense, but if somebody watches that film

431
00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:54.920
<v Speaker 5>and then decides that they're going to research megalodon or

432
00:21:54.920 --> 00:21:58.039
<v Speaker 5>indeed sharks, and they discover something new or they contry

433
00:21:58.119 --> 00:22:00.759
<v Speaker 5>to conservation. Then knows me to eggs has been a

434
00:22:00.759 --> 00:22:04.039
<v Speaker 5>good thing. That being said, Meg too is a piece

435
00:22:04.079 --> 00:22:06.000
<v Speaker 5>of trash.

436
00:22:06.359 --> 00:22:09.119
<v Speaker 3>We prefer Meg two to Meg one this show because

437
00:22:09.119 --> 00:22:11.240
<v Speaker 3>Meg Make two is more Megs than it.

438
00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:13.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and there's jet Skis. I like, I like jet

439
00:22:13.839 --> 00:22:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Skis that is so you'll notice that, and he swims

440
00:22:16.160 --> 00:22:19.039
<v Speaker 1>on the bottom of the ocean. He just he's like,

441
00:22:19.039 --> 00:22:21.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna breathe out and I'm just gonna.

442
00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Swim and we like, Yeah, we like it because it's

443
00:22:24.119 --> 00:22:26.599
<v Speaker 2>it really leans into the city noess, even more I

444
00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:27.880
<v Speaker 2>think than the first one does.

445
00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:29.960
<v Speaker 5>So it's funny to see what the jet skis like.

446
00:22:30.079 --> 00:22:32.880
<v Speaker 5>The one scene I like hit Meg two and the

447
00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:34.599
<v Speaker 5>entire vie I'm like, can I can I just have

448
00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:37.519
<v Speaker 5>the sharks eat people? Please? And then when they finally do,

449
00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:40.839
<v Speaker 5>starting everyone then for about ten minutes, it's pretty great.

450
00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:42.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is the.

451
00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:45.359
<v Speaker 2>Problem with the first one when when the Megs swimming

452
00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:48.000
<v Speaker 2>through that massive all those people swimming out in the sea,

453
00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:50.000
<v Speaker 2>I always say it should be going through like a

454
00:22:50.200 --> 00:22:50.680
<v Speaker 2>like a pool.

455
00:22:50.680 --> 00:22:54.480
<v Speaker 3>Skimmer. It like collecting hundreds of people up at a time.

456
00:22:54.920 --> 00:22:57.119
<v Speaker 3>It's not getting anyone.

457
00:22:57.240 --> 00:22:59.559
<v Speaker 1>I like the guy in the bubble, that was a

458
00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:03.640
<v Speaker 1>funny like that, that's great. Does he pop? Does he

459
00:23:03.680 --> 00:23:05.480
<v Speaker 1>eat that guy? Does he pop that thing?

460
00:23:06.599 --> 00:23:08.799
<v Speaker 5>He absolutely does eat that guy.

461
00:23:09.640 --> 00:23:13.119
<v Speaker 1>I love it. So this scene, like, uh, you know,

462
00:23:13.799 --> 00:23:16.039
<v Speaker 1>I kind of love that. You know, this is kind

463
00:23:16.079 --> 00:23:17.960
<v Speaker 1>of what the Indian was going towards j before they

464
00:23:17.960 --> 00:23:22.519
<v Speaker 1>did the reshoots. It was Susan and Carter enacting the

465
00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:25.200
<v Speaker 1>plan while preachers. Do you know about the ending?

466
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<v Speaker 3>Jack?

467
00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:27.079
<v Speaker 1>And what what the original ending was?

468
00:23:28.319 --> 00:23:31.119
<v Speaker 5>I wasn't there was an original ending. The only original

469
00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:33.279
<v Speaker 5>change Shark movie and I know of is of course

470
00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:33.920
<v Speaker 5>yours four.

471
00:23:34.680 --> 00:23:37.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, at the end of there's no end of deep

472
00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:39.319
<v Speaker 2>who see Susan survived.

473
00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:43.160
<v Speaker 3>She she's the one who explodes and kills the shark.

474
00:23:43.839 --> 00:23:45.960
<v Speaker 3>Preacher is alive as well, but he's still just injured

475
00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:47.359
<v Speaker 3>off screen. Uh.

476
00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:50.400
<v Speaker 2>And they released that, well, didn't release it from They

477
00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:53.000
<v Speaker 2>did test screenings and the general opinion was people didn't

478
00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:56.720
<v Speaker 2>like Susan as a character and wanted her to be killed,

479
00:23:57.839 --> 00:24:01.400
<v Speaker 2>and so they reshot it. I think I think we've

480
00:24:01.400 --> 00:24:03.720
<v Speaker 2>said they've shot it without telling Saffron Borrows.

481
00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:04.480
<v Speaker 1>They didn't tell her.

482
00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:08.559
<v Speaker 3>She didn't find out until the premiere.

483
00:24:09.119 --> 00:24:10.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's right.

484
00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:11.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

485
00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So like the final shot of carteron Preacher on

486
00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:18.759
<v Speaker 2>the platform, she's been digitally removed from from that shot.

487
00:24:20.119 --> 00:24:26.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I guess to be fair to those test audience

488
00:24:26.440 --> 00:24:30.079
<v Speaker 5>since the sharks going round for the everyone, it's kind

489
00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:32.279
<v Speaker 5>of her fault.

490
00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:36.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's there's different canvass to whether she's the villain

491
00:24:36.079 --> 00:24:42.480
<v Speaker 2>of the film or not. We we very she did

492
00:24:42.519 --> 00:24:45.079
<v Speaker 2>she did without she knew what she was doing was wrong,

493
00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:46.079
<v Speaker 2>but for good reason.

494
00:24:46.359 --> 00:24:48.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But then so many things have been done with

495
00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:49.720
<v Speaker 3>the best intention that.

496
00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Just don't ever I've said a hundred times, but you

497
00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:56.039
<v Speaker 1>haven't Jack given her. It's like, I don't think she

498
00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:58.920
<v Speaker 1>meant to make them that smart like that, that's a

499
00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:02.720
<v Speaker 1>purely oops moment. Like if you're if you're like, I'm

500
00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:04.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna make these sharks smarter so I can get bigger

501
00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:08.799
<v Speaker 1>brain tissue to prevent Alzheimer's, but you're never like, I'm

502
00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:13.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna make them so smart that they can understand cameras

503
00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:18.160
<v Speaker 1>swim backwards. They're waiting for Susan to kill the research

504
00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Like these things are they're like coach, like, they're like,

505
00:25:21.119 --> 00:25:23.000
<v Speaker 1>we have a plan. You go here, you go here,

506
00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:25.319
<v Speaker 1>you go here, We'll have them sink the facility. They

507
00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:27.079
<v Speaker 1>don't kill Carter a bunch of times because they want

508
00:25:27.079 --> 00:25:30.119
<v Speaker 1>the doors open, like you, I'm sorry, but I don't

509
00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:32.960
<v Speaker 1>think you ever go into like a scientific study being

510
00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:36.480
<v Speaker 1>like this is gonna happen. So I I feel for her.

511
00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:39.559
<v Speaker 1>She lied, and she did make them smarter, and she

512
00:25:39.599 --> 00:25:43.119
<v Speaker 1>did break a lot of what the Geneva compact and

513
00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:47.359
<v Speaker 1>the half OF's going back, yeah, all that stuff, like

514
00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:49.119
<v Speaker 1>it's I don't know.

515
00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:52.920
<v Speaker 5>She just so, yeah, it's adgy. My day to day

516
00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:57.519
<v Speaker 5>job is actually in publishing ethics and science papers. So

517
00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:00.640
<v Speaker 5>that did get me thinking about when I was Revelation

518
00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:06.680
<v Speaker 5>came out so ethically, Yes, Susan and Jim have absolutely

519
00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:10.079
<v Speaker 5>breached scientific efforts when it comes to testing animals. They

520
00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:13.599
<v Speaker 5>would both lose their jobs if that became public. But

521
00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:17.640
<v Speaker 5>at the same time, anyone defending them would probably argue, well,

522
00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:20.359
<v Speaker 5>they were doing it to cure Alzheimer's And that's where

523
00:26:20.440 --> 00:26:24.559
<v Speaker 5>sort of the gray area comes in, and that does

524
00:26:24.680 --> 00:26:28.039
<v Speaker 5>make for quite an interesting sort of debate that the

525
00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:30.920
<v Speaker 5>characters have in the film. And you can look at

526
00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:32.880
<v Speaker 5>it one way, as in for the greater good, or

527
00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:34.759
<v Speaker 5>you can look at it is as right. But she

528
00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:39.759
<v Speaker 5>also committed so many ethical breaches of testing animals.

529
00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:40.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

530
00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:44.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if if Garza and Preacher hadn't you know, taken

531
00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:46.880
<v Speaker 2>the sharks out by the end of the film, what

532
00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:49.079
<v Speaker 2>have it? Could they ever on the rest of the world.

533
00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:50.400
<v Speaker 5>Who knows exactly?

534
00:26:50.680 --> 00:26:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, what could that shark have done to the rest

535
00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:56.200
<v Speaker 1>of the world, because that shark bread she would need

536
00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:58.200
<v Speaker 1>to like who would breed with that shark?

537
00:26:58.240 --> 00:26:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Though?

538
00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Like would she? She's it would she could cause chaos

539
00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:07.400
<v Speaker 1>in the ocean, But would she be able to breed?

540
00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:11.680
<v Speaker 5>Well, my best guess. Keep in mind this is a

541
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:15.240
<v Speaker 5>genetically modified macro sharks that she'd probably just eat quite

542
00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:19.839
<v Speaker 5>a lot of it. And now maco sharks generally probably

543
00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:22.559
<v Speaker 5>would have been preyed on by a killer whale. But

544
00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:25.960
<v Speaker 5>if we consider that this shark is super super smart,

545
00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:29.160
<v Speaker 5>we'll say maybe not. I think honestly, the worst of

546
00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:30.839
<v Speaker 5>was that she would eat quite a lot of it

547
00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:31.680
<v Speaker 5>before dying.

548
00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:35.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so the world wouldn't be over, it would just

549
00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:39.640
<v Speaker 1>be you know, al watch out, there's a gigantic makeo

550
00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:43.759
<v Speaker 1>that's smarter than you are swimming around the area.

551
00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:47.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's funny because in most circumstances, if it was

552
00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:50.440
<v Speaker 5>a regular shark film about a giant mako, given that

553
00:27:50.680 --> 00:27:54.839
<v Speaker 5>overfishing kills millions of sharks every year and over a

554
00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:57.440
<v Speaker 5>further them a friend of extinction, we would have taken

555
00:27:57.480 --> 00:27:59.559
<v Speaker 5>that shark out long ago. But then of course you

556
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:02.400
<v Speaker 5>considered that the shark is super super smart, and that's

557
00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:04.720
<v Speaker 5>sort of where the interesting hypotheticals come.

558
00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:10.200
<v Speaker 3>In, and then they blow it up. So this could

559
00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:13.359
<v Speaker 3>be a city question. Can sharks communicate with each other?

560
00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:19.480
<v Speaker 5>So it sort of depends on the shark. Obviously sharks

561
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:28.160
<v Speaker 5>cannot verbally communicate, but there are some sharks. Obviously some

562
00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:31.839
<v Speaker 5>of them gather in groups called shivers, So there are

563
00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:35.680
<v Speaker 5>some sharks that have some social aggregations, and there are

564
00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:39.839
<v Speaker 5>some sharks, such as chained swell sharks, that are actually

565
00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:43.000
<v Speaker 5>bible luminescent and can glow in the dark and people.

566
00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:45.920
<v Speaker 5>Some scientists think that might be a form of communication.

567
00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:49.720
<v Speaker 5>And of course with shivers, there's some sort of hierarchical

568
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:53.640
<v Speaker 5>dominance going on. Even when white sharks, if a big

569
00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:56.839
<v Speaker 5>female comes along, the other white sharks tend to not

570
00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:01.519
<v Speaker 5>bother with whatever they're hunting, So can they communicate? As

571
00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:05.680
<v Speaker 5>a very bored question, but the answer is read, that

572
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:09.200
<v Speaker 5>is some evidence of sociality in at least some species

573
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:09.640
<v Speaker 5>of shark.

574
00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:14.880
<v Speaker 2>So because because we've often hypothesized that, how did they

575
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:19.640
<v Speaker 2>come up with this plan together as a team, as

576
00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:22.720
<v Speaker 2>a family, I guess, like with with they having like meetings,

577
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:25.079
<v Speaker 2>drawing in the sand, like you.

578
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Go here, you go here, that kind of thing.

579
00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Was it just a conversation but they're underwater, So because

580
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:31.359
<v Speaker 2>clearly they must this is a plan they come up with.

581
00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:34.039
<v Speaker 2>This film opens with one of them getting out to

582
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:36.119
<v Speaker 2>see the response. Time for Garden to go and get

583
00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:38.279
<v Speaker 2>them to come back in again, and like you go,

584
00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:40.119
<v Speaker 2>you go, get Preacher in the kitchen, you go get

585
00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:41.960
<v Speaker 2>the data in Susan's office or take out the rest

586
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:42.200
<v Speaker 2>of them.

587
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:42.720
<v Speaker 3>It's a plan.

588
00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:44.799
<v Speaker 2>It's a big plan, and they must have had some

589
00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:47.759
<v Speaker 2>means of communicating it between them, and I have often

590
00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:50.160
<v Speaker 2>wondered how, Because they're sharks.

591
00:29:50.920 --> 00:29:53.319
<v Speaker 5>I like to think they met a bit like the

592
00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:57.559
<v Speaker 5>sharks and shark him too, and sat around and had

593
00:29:57.599 --> 00:29:58.160
<v Speaker 5>a chat.

594
00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:02.599
<v Speaker 1>Sure they must have, right, they chatted These sharks had

595
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:04.279
<v Speaker 1>a chat.

596
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like but yeah, like Jack Blackened not Society is

597
00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:14.559
<v Speaker 2>not a shock and the nearest the Shock and first

598
00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Fermi his name.

599
00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:17.000
<v Speaker 3>I can never remember.

600
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:20.440
<v Speaker 5>The wee fish that's played by Monscore.

601
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:24.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, the fish. Yeah, that's still shrimp.

602
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:28.079
<v Speaker 1>There's movies where I want to see, like I want

603
00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:29.559
<v Speaker 1>to see the plant. I want this to be from

604
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:34.119
<v Speaker 1>their perspective and be like an Ocean's eleven movie. Like

605
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:37.200
<v Speaker 1>just like George Clooney voices one, Brad Pitt voices the

606
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:40.559
<v Speaker 1>other Matt Damon, No, it's a lady Julia Roberts. No,

607
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>it'd be Julia Roberts, Catherine Zada Jones and Clooney and

608
00:30:43.640 --> 00:30:47.319
<v Speaker 1>they're just like voicing the sharks to get out of Aquatica.

609
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:50.240
<v Speaker 1>That's the movie I want, and I feel like we

610
00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:53.680
<v Speaker 1>might it's.

611
00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:54.519
<v Speaker 3>The movie we want. Yeah, one doesn't want.

612
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>So aside from the Samuel Jackson surprise that you knew

613
00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>about and we are talked about whitlocks, were there other

614
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:04.279
<v Speaker 1>things that you enjoyed or found surprising about this movie

615
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:07.920
<v Speaker 1>where like subversive or different or smart or put a

616
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:08.759
<v Speaker 1>smile on your face.

617
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:16.559
<v Speaker 5>So I was grinning ear to ear everybody, which is

618
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:19.759
<v Speaker 5>something that is manly a bit basic on watching a

619
00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:25.039
<v Speaker 5>Shark film. But as we were going from each as

620
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:27.839
<v Speaker 5>the group dwindles down and more and more of them

621
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:31.839
<v Speaker 5>get eaten, I was finding myself continuously grilling at the

622
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:35.839
<v Speaker 5>new ways they foundselves to do it. Like obviously Stell

623
00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:40.000
<v Speaker 5>Jim Stelling Skarsgar's character gets pretty batters before they finish

624
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:43.000
<v Speaker 5>him off. He gets his even getting his arm lifted

625
00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:47.279
<v Speaker 5>off initially, and then the ways that they kill Scogs

626
00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:50.759
<v Speaker 5>is quite is quite impressive, and I was particular to

627
00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:53.400
<v Speaker 5>find that because I didn't find myself that convinced by

628
00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:56.480
<v Speaker 5>Michael Rappoport's performance. So I was just kind of happy

629
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:57.359
<v Speaker 5>when he got eaten.

630
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:01.200
<v Speaker 3>It is the heart and soul of the film.

631
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:05.319
<v Speaker 1>Nobody knows what Scog does here. What is Gog's He

632
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:07.079
<v Speaker 1>said he went to T. Did you say he went

633
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:07.480
<v Speaker 1>to MI T.

634
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:11.599
<v Speaker 2>He was meant to be an engineer, Yeah, yeah, he's

635
00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:15.400
<v Speaker 2>meant to be aged four years tech tech.

636
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:17.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

637
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:20.319
<v Speaker 5>And I will say as additional thing that I found myself,

638
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:22.599
<v Speaker 5>I was so surprised to found loving was going in.

639
00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:25.920
<v Speaker 5>I thought hot air, well cool J's in a Shark movie.

640
00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:27.920
<v Speaker 5>By the end of it, I was like, Preacher is

641
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:28.920
<v Speaker 5>the best character.

642
00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:32.519
<v Speaker 3>And absolutely he's the best part.

643
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:37.319
<v Speaker 2>So I speaking of Preacher, would a shark go out

644
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:39.680
<v Speaker 2>of its way to eat just a small little bird?

645
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:44.319
<v Speaker 3>Is that? Is that not like a tiny little jelly

646
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:45.160
<v Speaker 3>bean for a shark.

647
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:50.079
<v Speaker 5>So sharks are generally opportunistic by nature, which means if

648
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:53.079
<v Speaker 5>they see something that's viable to eat, they will probably

649
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:56.559
<v Speaker 5>try to eat it. So I used to work in

650
00:32:56.559 --> 00:33:00.200
<v Speaker 5>a cage diving operation in South Africa, and people who

651
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:04.680
<v Speaker 5>work there have absolutely seen great white sharks eat sea birds.

652
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:07.960
<v Speaker 5>So I think it's totally plausible that an incredibly smart

653
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:09.359
<v Speaker 5>maker would eat a parrot.

654
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:11.599
<v Speaker 1>Tell us about your time out there, I want to

655
00:33:11.599 --> 00:33:12.039
<v Speaker 1>hear more.

656
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:16.240
<v Speaker 5>Well, it was a really yeah, it was a fascinating

657
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:18.559
<v Speaker 5>couple of summers. I got to watch how the white

658
00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:22.079
<v Speaker 5>sharks engage around the baits on the boats, and it

659
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:24.279
<v Speaker 5>was some of the most incredible memories. I could see

660
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:27.640
<v Speaker 5>that they are quite clever and social creatures in that

661
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:31.319
<v Speaker 5>they aren't there to essentially look at you and take

662
00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:34.519
<v Speaker 5>a bite. They're curious by you in the cage and

663
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:36.680
<v Speaker 5>they will sort of maybe have a look and then

664
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:40.799
<v Speaker 5>they'll swim by. They're quite chill. But perhaps even more

665
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:43.559
<v Speaker 5>so is that the first time I went there was

666
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:46.440
<v Speaker 5>when a great white shark was actually killed by two

667
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:49.039
<v Speaker 5>killaway I was out there, so I got to watch

668
00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:51.519
<v Speaker 5>a dissection of a dead white shark after these two

669
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:53.680
<v Speaker 5>killawas had killed it and taken its liver.

670
00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:56.720
<v Speaker 1>What they took its liver?

671
00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:01.480
<v Speaker 5>Mm hmm. And yet it was so interestingly how it

672
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:05.480
<v Speaker 5>was almost a surgical removal. These well, these Orcas are

673
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:08.639
<v Speaker 5>really smart. I would not mess with August. I've never

674
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:10.599
<v Speaker 5>seen the movie Orca, but I think I would take

675
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:13.360
<v Speaker 5>the Geneslie modified maker as any day over August.

676
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:15.760
<v Speaker 3>Orca is a sad film.

677
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:20.199
<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's good, but it's yeah, it's not a

678
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:23.639
<v Speaker 2>big action film. It's it's quite melancholy at times.

679
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it starts sting. You didn't see that. You saw

680
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:32.679
<v Speaker 1>the aftermath, and they just like what did they just

681
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:34.639
<v Speaker 1>hit it out of nowhere? Like how do they? How

682
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:36.360
<v Speaker 1>do they get it? I want to know more about this.

683
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:40.880
<v Speaker 5>So it's generally for that Orcus will gang up on

684
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:43.199
<v Speaker 5>a shark. One will sort of hit it to flip

685
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:46.199
<v Speaker 5>it upside down, and the other will remove its liver.

686
00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:49.880
<v Speaker 5>What's quite interesting, though, is that of these two individuals,

687
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:53.760
<v Speaker 5>they're called Port and Starboards due to their flipping dorsal fins.

688
00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:59.280
<v Speaker 5>But one of my colleagues, Esther Jacob's, actually witnessed one

689
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:02.920
<v Speaker 5>of them killing a small white shark by himself. So

690
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:05.719
<v Speaker 5>what we learned is that, oh no, orcas generally will

691
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:08.519
<v Speaker 5>team up and to take out a white shark. They

692
00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:11.719
<v Speaker 5>are totally capable of taking one out by themselves. And

693
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:15.280
<v Speaker 5>what's become so interesting about this is that we saw

694
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:17.880
<v Speaker 5>the white sharks begin to disappear from South Africa and

695
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:21.119
<v Speaker 5>this time, and it's now recently come out that the

696
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:25.719
<v Speaker 5>killer whales, yes, were killing white sharks there. But given

697
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:29.880
<v Speaker 5>that there is a growing sense of overfishing going around

698
00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:33.599
<v Speaker 5>South Africa, that were killing say twenty white sharks a year,

699
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:37.039
<v Speaker 5>they were probably slowly removing the white shop population in

700
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:41.320
<v Speaker 5>the background. And these killer whales, oh no, they absolutely contributed.

701
00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:45.239
<v Speaker 5>They were essentially a big convenient distraction for us, actually

702
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:46.800
<v Speaker 5>removing the white sharks in South Africa.

703
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that makes sense. I mean, that's gonna make

704
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:53.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot more press a killer whale killing a great

705
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:57.760
<v Speaker 1>white as opposed to fishers fishermen wiping out sharks like

706
00:35:57.760 --> 00:35:59.199
<v Speaker 1>I did. When I was working on my master's I

707
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:01.960
<v Speaker 1>did a study about like the amount of articles about

708
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:04.760
<v Speaker 1>shark attacks compared to the number of articles about the

709
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>millions of sharks are being fin the year, and the

710
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:10.639
<v Speaker 1>number is astronomical and astronomically in favor of the shark attacks.

711
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Like there's really not much press about there about the

712
00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:15.480
<v Speaker 1>shark finning, So it's I guess it would make sense

713
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:18.320
<v Speaker 1>that you would use that while fishing. Oh no, it's

714
00:36:18.440 --> 00:36:21.119
<v Speaker 1>orcs or organs are crazy out here. They're just wiping

715
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:23.679
<v Speaker 1>them out, like just as opposed to the fishing.

716
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:27.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and it's interesting because orcas killing one sharks absolutely

717
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:30.800
<v Speaker 5>makes for a grander headline. I say that as someone

718
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:35.000
<v Speaker 5>who has written journalistic article is about these guys. So

719
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:38.519
<v Speaker 5>it is super interesting that that we're sort of finally

720
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:41.679
<v Speaker 5>starting to see what the data is actually telling us.

721
00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:44.199
<v Speaker 5>Even though the orcas are definitely playing a part, they

722
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:47.880
<v Speaker 5>are ultimately a fragment of nature and them killing one

723
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:50.599
<v Speaker 5>sharks just part of the natural world. But we can't

724
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:53.400
<v Speaker 5>really control what they do, but we can control what

725
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:55.800
<v Speaker 5>we do to the sharks, and I think that's ultimately

726
00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:57.119
<v Speaker 5>the more of the film too.

727
00:36:57.719 --> 00:36:59.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

728
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Random question. You're going on a shark adventure and there's

729
00:37:03.559 --> 00:37:07.119
<v Speaker 1>genetically modified sharks and you need to pick one person

730
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:09.599
<v Speaker 1>to survive. Are you taking Statham from the Meg or

731
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:12.800
<v Speaker 1>are you're taking Carter Blake from Deep Blue C Which

732
00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:13.440
<v Speaker 1>one you're picking?

733
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:19.239
<v Speaker 5>Oh that's a good question. Uh. I think I would

734
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:22.800
<v Speaker 5>take Carter Blake. And the reason of that is, oh, no,

735
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.559
<v Speaker 5>Jason Satan is green. He'll punch some sharks out the

736
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:29.199
<v Speaker 5>way for me. Uh. Generally, let's say we go to

737
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:30.719
<v Speaker 5>the bottom of the ocean and he tries to do

738
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:33.440
<v Speaker 5>that thing where he exhales at the bottom of the trench.

739
00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:39.880
<v Speaker 5>In reality he is dead instantly, whereas I'm much more

740
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:42.800
<v Speaker 5>trusting of Carter Blake Street smarts.

741
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:45.119
<v Speaker 1>Ooh, that's a great answer.

742
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:48.400
<v Speaker 3>We I hope no one's tried that. No one's watched

743
00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:50.440
<v Speaker 3>The Lake too and thought genius.

744
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:50.880
<v Speaker 5>You know.

745
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:55.039
<v Speaker 1>I saw that the movie and then just crushed by that.

746
00:37:56.119 --> 00:38:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah Carter he uh yeah, there are aquatic muffin. That's

747
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:02.679
<v Speaker 1>what the names call him, so we like, we like

748
00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:05.239
<v Speaker 1>calling him that. But all right, so you would take.

749
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:07.920
<v Speaker 5>It's a good name. So I I only knew Thomas

750
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:11.039
<v Speaker 5>Jane from that show The Expanse before I watched Deep

751
00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:13.000
<v Speaker 5>Blue C because he's one of the main dudes in

752
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:15.559
<v Speaker 5>that so like, Oh, it's nice to see Miller.

753
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:22.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Expanse rules. I love that show so much. I

754
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:24.880
<v Speaker 1>should do this episode in a belter accent. What do

755
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:28.719
<v Speaker 1>you think you think I could do it?

756
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:31.599
<v Speaker 5>I don't think I could do accent.

757
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:34.320
<v Speaker 1>No, not a hit Strath Aaron does a good one,

758
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you. But yeah, he does a lot of

759
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:38.960
<v Speaker 1>hat work in that one, Thomas Jane, He's a lot

760
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:41.119
<v Speaker 1>of He does a lot of hat work in the Expanse,

761
00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:45.079
<v Speaker 1>which I appreciate. I just want to put that out there. Jay,

762
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:48.159
<v Speaker 1>you don't really see TJ in many hats. You see

763
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:52.159
<v Speaker 1>Jason Statham in a lot of hats, but not Carter Blake. Yeah,

764
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Statham's a hat guy.

765
00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:58.199
<v Speaker 3>It has him wearing a hat. Yeah. I'm just I'm

766
00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:00.000
<v Speaker 3>just running through every time Jane through I can think

767
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:00.800
<v Speaker 3>of and I can't.

768
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:01.360
<v Speaker 4>I can't.

769
00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:04.960
<v Speaker 2>So Yeah, I think you're right. He's pretty I think

770
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:07.280
<v Speaker 2>he's got one in the mist. He's in the mist.

771
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I think nineteen twenty two. He's got a cap on maybe,

772
00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:16.000
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not sure. That's a new mystery for us.

773
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:18.199
<v Speaker 1>Today we figured out how many doors are opened in

774
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Deep Blue Sea. I figured out how far the Yeah,

775
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:24.199
<v Speaker 1>I figured out how far the sharks have traveled. Jay

776
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:27.079
<v Speaker 1>figured out how deep blue and how much a time

777
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:28.599
<v Speaker 1>at sea it is. So now we've got to figure

778
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:29.920
<v Speaker 1>out the TJ hat how.

779
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:32.199
<v Speaker 3>Many catteries the sharks over the course of the film? Yeah,

780
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:37.880
<v Speaker 3>which this a a lot. Weighed so many.

781
00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:40.599
<v Speaker 1>But it's four thousand pounds, right, Jay, So it's four

782
00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:44.039
<v Speaker 1>thousand pounds. It didn't eat scars Guard, it didn't eat

783
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:48.519
<v Speaker 1>the hell his arm and the cigarette.

784
00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:50.199
<v Speaker 3>I counted the calories of the cigarette.

785
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:56.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming it ate most of Scott's. It ate half

786
00:39:56.679 --> 00:40:00.119
<v Speaker 1>of Russell Janice.

787
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:03.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, eight, most of Janneys. It's gonna eat all of Susan.

788
00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:04.079
<v Speaker 3>Oh.

789
00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, is a shark? Does the shark get that much room?

790
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:12.400
<v Speaker 5>Famous can? Actually, they tend to eat an abundance of

791
00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:14.840
<v Speaker 5>calories if there's a chance they're not gonna eat for

792
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:17.039
<v Speaker 5>a long time, And they can do this to sort

793
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:20.159
<v Speaker 5>of fuel long distance migrations. It's like a great white

794
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:23.480
<v Speaker 5>shark could eat an entire seal or two, and then

795
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:25.599
<v Speaker 5>it can swim across an ocean not eat again for

796
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:29.119
<v Speaker 5>a few weeks. So I reckon these Jersey modified macros

797
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:32.360
<v Speaker 5>will have no problem eating. How made that was four

798
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:34.760
<v Speaker 5>or five humans and then swimming off to the deeper sea.

799
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:40.039
<v Speaker 2>We're not eating that many humans impede its jumping ability

800
00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:43.519
<v Speaker 2>because we've we've long contested why don't the sharks just

801
00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:44.360
<v Speaker 2>jump out of the quad.

802
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:45.559
<v Speaker 1>They could.

803
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:48.199
<v Speaker 2>We know that makos can jump pretty high, But if

804
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:51.400
<v Speaker 2>a mako has just eaten five people, would it be

805
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:52.519
<v Speaker 2>able to jump over a fence?

806
00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:53.760
<v Speaker 3>Probably not.

807
00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:58.079
<v Speaker 5>I think that's that's the next stage of Susan's research

808
00:40:58.119 --> 00:40:59.000
<v Speaker 5>and making them smarter.

809
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:01.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, she's not gonna get there. I'm afraid.

810
00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:11.960
<v Speaker 1>How are they gonna how are they digesting the skull?

811
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:12.920
<v Speaker 3>No?

812
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:15.079
<v Speaker 1>But like so many shark movies, heads get bitten off

813
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:17.239
<v Speaker 1>and then the sharks just like have them in their mouths,

814
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:19.960
<v Speaker 1>like what Like that just doesn't seem like I feel

815
00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:22.000
<v Speaker 1>like sharks know it like a seal. They could probably

816
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:24.400
<v Speaker 1>have some good food on that, Like I've never understood,

817
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:26.559
<v Speaker 1>like I'm gonna eat this dude's head and so many

818
00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:29.199
<v Speaker 1>shark movies heads get decapitated, but like, I don't think

819
00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:30.320
<v Speaker 1>there's much meat on that.

820
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:32.639
<v Speaker 2>There's a shark in this film with a number plate

821
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:35.519
<v Speaker 2>inside it. Yeah, it's not always thinking, it's not always

822
00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:36.159
<v Speaker 2>eating food.

823
00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:37.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true.

824
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the tiger shark with the Jaws license plate. What

825
00:41:41.559 --> 00:41:45.719
<v Speaker 1>is the digestive functions of a shark? I'm sorry, I

826
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:47.320
<v Speaker 1>just want to know. I just I'm sorry.

827
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:51.800
<v Speaker 5>So again, that's going to vary, depaying on the species.

828
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:54.840
<v Speaker 5>We does so many sharks bes and we don't know

829
00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:58.440
<v Speaker 5>what that digestion is like. But of the sharks when

830
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:01.119
<v Speaker 5>we have studied that, say, the like a shark, for example,

831
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:02.920
<v Speaker 5>they tend to be pretty slow.

832
00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, and that's such a I've asked you so many

833
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:10.239
<v Speaker 1>vague questions, but we've never had like a full on

834
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:13.199
<v Speaker 1>shark expert on our show. So I feel like, uh,

835
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I wait, okay, let's do it.

836
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:20.719
<v Speaker 2>Like the opening scene, they spill red wine in the

837
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:24.119
<v Speaker 2>water and the shark shows up. The shark obviously knows

838
00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:26.440
<v Speaker 2>that's not blood because they have the great sense of smell.

839
00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:29.119
<v Speaker 2>But would the shark be drawn to red wine? Would

840
00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:34.159
<v Speaker 2>that happens on the variety.

841
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:37.079
<v Speaker 1>Of the cab like.

842
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:40.920
<v Speaker 5>If anybody's test I don't know if anybody's tested that

843
00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:45.440
<v Speaker 5>it's a red wine. I don't think you'd get funding

844
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:46.440
<v Speaker 5>for it, to be honest.

845
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Sure, listen, pitch next next Shark week. I want you

846
00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:54.280
<v Speaker 1>to have an I want to see you on I

847
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:56.360
<v Speaker 1>want to see you in Shark Week one time, doing

848
00:42:56.440 --> 00:42:59.559
<v Speaker 1>like the red wine wine tastings for sharks to see

849
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:01.159
<v Speaker 1>if they get them, and then they'll just be an

850
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:02.599
<v Speaker 1>entire episode during Shark Week.

851
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:06.280
<v Speaker 5>What specific that would not be the dumbest we have

852
00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:07.159
<v Speaker 5>ever done.

853
00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna pour this pinot in the water and we're

854
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:16.039
<v Speaker 1>gonna see what happens, like like a bougie I don't know,

855
00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:18.280
<v Speaker 1>nurse shark shows up.

856
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:24.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna some different different wines for different sharks. It's

857
00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:28.000
<v Speaker 2>like Jurassic Park three with the different urines according different dinosaurs.

858
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:31.920
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, uh waited.

859
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:34.960
<v Speaker 2>And when Alan Grant finds the kid in Jurassic Park

860
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:37.079
<v Speaker 2>three and he's like, he uses the last of his

861
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:40.800
<v Speaker 2>t rex urine. Uh and and it like makes all

862
00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:43.599
<v Speaker 2>the small ones disappear, but it calls one really big

863
00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:44.880
<v Speaker 2>one with a thin it calls the spine the.

864
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:49.119
<v Speaker 3>Saul And yeah, I've seen this too many.

865
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:50.800
<v Speaker 4>Times or not enough?

866
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:53.599
<v Speaker 2>Who knows, the only other question I had about sharks

867
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:56.039
<v Speaker 2>was do they have a Are they vengeful?

868
00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:02.159
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how you arks capable of revenge?

869
00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Are they are they petty? Are they like that s b.

870
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:08.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go get.

871
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:13.719
<v Speaker 2>Them because the previous chapter, the previous chapter, the shark

872
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:17.039
<v Speaker 2>attacked attacked Preacher, And I had two schools of thought.

873
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:19.000
<v Speaker 2>What it's because he's wearing white and they're attracted to

874
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:22.840
<v Speaker 2>bright colors as opposed to Carter and Susan wearing black.

875
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:25.159
<v Speaker 2>And the other one was because they know that Preacher

876
00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:27.840
<v Speaker 2>killed one of the other sharks and it's for revenge.

877
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:30.239
<v Speaker 2>That was That was my two schools of thought.

878
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:35.360
<v Speaker 5>So generally sharks don't there's not a lot of thought

879
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:38.039
<v Speaker 5>going on those heads. It's swim, swim and blood blooh

880
00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:42.559
<v Speaker 5>and nom nom. But since we're talking about genetically modified

881
00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:45.280
<v Speaker 5>super smart sharks, Yeah, why can't they have a grudge?

882
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:48.360
<v Speaker 5>They Preacher killed one killed one of their guys. And

883
00:44:48.599 --> 00:44:50.920
<v Speaker 5>let's ask me if Jaws Force taught us anything, is

884
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:54.159
<v Speaker 5>that at least one fictional shark absolutely olds a grudge.

885
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:57.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, holds it across the whole ocean.

886
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:02.079
<v Speaker 1>It has a it's like a link. It's grudges. So

887
00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:03.719
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's like the grudge.

888
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:06.000
<v Speaker 3>It's like the grudge.

889
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:08.679
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, like I don't know, it's like a curse.

890
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:11.519
<v Speaker 1>And then it's attached to that family. I feel like

891
00:45:11.559 --> 00:45:15.320
<v Speaker 1>it's a bounty hunter shark though, because the first shark

892
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:18.239
<v Speaker 1>was killed, there's another shark that might be there's a third.

893
00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:21.599
<v Speaker 1>Are they relatives? And that they hire this shark from

894
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:23.920
<v Speaker 1>the fourth and the four? Who is it? Is it

895
00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:27.400
<v Speaker 1>a cousin? Is it a is it a The logic

896
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:30.000
<v Speaker 1>blows my mind that this shark wants revenge, but it's

897
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:33.559
<v Speaker 1>three other great whites removed, so they the sharks in

898
00:45:33.559 --> 00:45:37.000
<v Speaker 1>the ocean must be like pissed at this family. That's

899
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:39.679
<v Speaker 1>my only way I can think about this shark. I

900
00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:41.239
<v Speaker 1>know it was like a voodoo curse in the book,

901
00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:44.519
<v Speaker 1>in the original script, but they lost that for the movie.

902
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:46.159
<v Speaker 1>So then it's like, I like that.

903
00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Then it's like the Monscuse and capitals. It's the Chark

904
00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:53.840
<v Speaker 2>family versus a human family. That's I like that.

905
00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:59.039
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah it is. We need a.

906
00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Family crossing romance between a shock and the human to

907
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:12.639
<v Speaker 2>bring these two clans together, Jay right, It.

908
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Like the Nick Finn's I don't know, Yeah, that's the

909
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:16.840
<v Speaker 1>logic of that movie. It's I don't know. I like

910
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:19.719
<v Speaker 1>to think that maybe they hired someone to go kill

911
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:25.679
<v Speaker 1>the family. The Shark family did because there's what makes

912
00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:27.840
<v Speaker 1>sense to you? Who do you think that shark is

913
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:29.440
<v Speaker 1>and why does it want to kill that family?

914
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:35.199
<v Speaker 5>Well, I've always chosen aough, fun interpretation that it's actually

915
00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:39.480
<v Speaker 5>just a what you call it a shock that can

916
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:43.519
<v Speaker 5>consistently resurrect itself. It's a magic shock that's just come

917
00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:47.559
<v Speaker 5>back to life every movie and is just really gone

918
00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:50.880
<v Speaker 5>out of as water family after being killed. That makes

919
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:52.480
<v Speaker 5>about as much sense as a shock family.

920
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:55.119
<v Speaker 1>So at the end of Jaws it pulls a terminator

921
00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:59.480
<v Speaker 1>too and just kind of goes like comes back together.

922
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:04.000
<v Speaker 1>And then in Jaws three two it burns itself and

923
00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:07.840
<v Speaker 1>blows up, and then it reforms. It's like, I'm gonna

924
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:10.119
<v Speaker 1>wait a little bit, like I got bad luck against

925
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:12.000
<v Speaker 1>this guy, and then it swims to Florida and attacks

926
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:14.199
<v Speaker 1>them when they're older, and then it dies again and

927
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:19.320
<v Speaker 1>it explodes, and then it comes back later in the.

928
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:23.199
<v Speaker 5>Third incarnating shock at least would explain why they get

929
00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:25.280
<v Speaker 5>bigger in every movie.

930
00:47:26.039 --> 00:47:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I like this plot.

931
00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:28.840
<v Speaker 3>I like it. I like it at all.

932
00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Because that's a would there ever be that many so

933
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:35.480
<v Speaker 1>off the coast in amity? Were there ever? One? Are

934
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:40.039
<v Speaker 1>the odds of two gigantic sharks? Of that size. I

935
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:42.559
<v Speaker 1>know that I read the book about I read the

936
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:44.519
<v Speaker 1>book about how you know what it was based on

937
00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:46.360
<v Speaker 1>about how the sharks slam up the rivers on the

938
00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:48.639
<v Speaker 1>East coast of America and like attacks some people and

939
00:47:48.679 --> 00:47:50.920
<v Speaker 1>went pretty far up. It's like I read the like

940
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:53.440
<v Speaker 1>it was like a rogue great white that got separated

941
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:55.760
<v Speaker 1>and attacked people on the shore, and that kind of

942
00:47:55.840 --> 00:47:57.960
<v Speaker 1>led to like a shark ferver and that kind of

943
00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:00.639
<v Speaker 1>led the jaws eventually. But what are the odds of

944
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:04.440
<v Speaker 1>too get that many sharks attacking that coast that big?

945
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:12.159
<v Speaker 5>So they would be astronomically slim and generally are the biggest.

946
00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:15.840
<v Speaker 5>Great white sharks are going to be extremely rare because

947
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:18.920
<v Speaker 5>that obviously involves them living for a very long time

948
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:22.840
<v Speaker 5>to their maximum possible size, and most sharks will have

949
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:26.440
<v Speaker 5>obviously died before reaching that maxism age. Now, in terms

950
00:48:26.480 --> 00:48:32.119
<v Speaker 5>of like role sharks, that's not really something that's considered

951
00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:35.800
<v Speaker 5>as scientific consensus anymore. That it wasn't the seventies when

952
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:39.480
<v Speaker 5>shars came out, But it's not really something that's given

953
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:43.719
<v Speaker 5>much scientific force. That being said, there has been scientific

954
00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:46.800
<v Speaker 5>research suggesting that there are what I believe has been

955
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:50.239
<v Speaker 5>called problem INDI videos, and that is individual sharks that

956
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:53.760
<v Speaker 5>they believe our responsor for biting multiple people. And I

957
00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:56.039
<v Speaker 5>believe this has been identified in tiger sharks, and I

958
00:48:56.119 --> 00:48:57.239
<v Speaker 5>think both sharks.

959
00:48:57.880 --> 00:48:59.239
<v Speaker 3>It's a few bad apples.

960
00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:05.880
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. I mean it makes sense. Like any there's

961
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:09.760
<v Speaker 1>always the jerk, and I guess those are the ones

962
00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:12.880
<v Speaker 1>that go out there and every family has a pain

963
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:14.480
<v Speaker 1>in the butt. So it was like, you know, this

964
00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:22.679
<v Speaker 1>is just Rick the tiger shark. That's just a real nemesis. Yeah. Uh,

965
00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:24.760
<v Speaker 1>any other any other thing you want to talk about

966
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:27.199
<v Speaker 1>in this chapter, j do we miss anything?

967
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:29.519
<v Speaker 3>I mean I mentioned the obstacle. Course, I really like.

968
00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:34.199
<v Speaker 2>Cartridge Let's Go, and and just the speed at which

969
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:39.639
<v Speaker 2>he hops over that the obstacle when just runs off

970
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:42.280
<v Speaker 2>and then she very delicately is going down the ladder

971
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:45.559
<v Speaker 2>step by step and he's reached the other side of

972
00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:49.320
<v Speaker 2>it before she's reached the bottom of her perfect which

973
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:49.960
<v Speaker 2>I like that.

974
00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:52.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, she's very delicate in that scene. He's three

975
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:57.360
<v Speaker 1>quarters away across the aquatica, but she's saw on the ladder.

976
00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:01.719
<v Speaker 2>And in when Stellham was attacked earlier in the film

977
00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:03.719
<v Speaker 2>and they were in the elevator, and Susan has made

978
00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:07.239
<v Speaker 2>it very clear she's not this kind of doctor. She

979
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:10.840
<v Speaker 2>has now moved past that she is tending to preach

980
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:14.079
<v Speaker 2>her she's dressing his wounds. She is accepted that in

981
00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:16.480
<v Speaker 2>this scenario, she's the best they've got. So she's not

982
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:19.239
<v Speaker 2>complaining anymore. She's on board, she's part of the team.

983
00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Just before she dies.

984
00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:24.599
<v Speaker 1>That's why I like Susan. She We've said this many times,

985
00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:27.280
<v Speaker 1>but she's not a secondary antagonist. She rolls with everyone

986
00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:30.639
<v Speaker 1>as soon as everything starts going bad. I like that.

987
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Should they have saved the research in this without a better, better.

988
00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:42.360
<v Speaker 5>Ending, I don't know about that. I think she would

989
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:46.000
<v Speaker 5>have probably faced some sort of disciplinary action for her

990
00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:49.920
<v Speaker 5>ethical preachers. What if she had spoil Let's Tour Find

991
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:50.840
<v Speaker 5>the movie?

992
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Would they have been able to use the research legally

993
00:50:55.920 --> 00:50:58.960
<v Speaker 2>if it had been obtained unethically.

994
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:02.559
<v Speaker 5>So, if it's been attained on ethically, you're probably gonna

995
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:05.360
<v Speaker 5>get into quite a lot bother from your institutions for that,

996
00:51:06.039 --> 00:51:09.519
<v Speaker 5>and they probably would have stopped that research from being published.

997
00:51:09.880 --> 00:51:12.519
<v Speaker 5>But in the event that they written, they wrote it

998
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:14.960
<v Speaker 5>up and submitted it to a Peer of views journal.

999
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:19.360
<v Speaker 5>Peer of Viewers would have probably breached that problem as well,

1000
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:21.360
<v Speaker 5>and they would have had to write a statement about

1001
00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:24.440
<v Speaker 5>it in that paper. So it be a lot complicated

1002
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:27.639
<v Speaker 5>process if it ever stood light a day, So chances

1003
00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:28.960
<v Speaker 5>are probably not.

1004
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:36.760
<v Speaker 3>Even though curing outside this potentially, Yeah.

1005
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:39.480
<v Speaker 1>When Carter and Preacher get back to the mainland, all

1006
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:44.079
<v Speaker 1>the sharks are blown up. There's no there's no footage,

1007
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:45.960
<v Speaker 1>it's just their word.

1008
00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:48.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the sharks at the cameras.

1009
00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Is anybody gonna believe that? Is anybody like when they

1010
00:51:53.400 --> 00:52:00.840
<v Speaker 1>speak to leading you know, experts in the field, Are

1011
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:03.559
<v Speaker 1>they gonna be Is everyone just gonna think they're crazy?

1012
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:08.719
<v Speaker 5>Uh? That would be my Yes, I'm not sure that's

1013
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:11.199
<v Speaker 5>a scientific shark based question, but if you had to

1014
00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:13.840
<v Speaker 5>ask my thoughts in the matter, Yeah, I think they

1015
00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:17.679
<v Speaker 5>everyon would think they're insane. And I don't think Kater's

1016
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:20.480
<v Speaker 5>alleged criminal background on the film would give him much

1017
00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:20.960
<v Speaker 5>help either.

1018
00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, you've had this interesting yeah, pretty from the guests,

1019
00:52:26.360 --> 00:52:28.079
<v Speaker 2>so maybe he's not regarded as a.

1020
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:32.559
<v Speaker 3>Believable witness either. Ninety nine.

1021
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:35.079
<v Speaker 1>So they're just they're gonna have a lot of law issues.

1022
00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:38.440
<v Speaker 1>They're probably gonna be discredited. There's all these dead people,

1023
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:42.559
<v Speaker 1>they're the last two people alive, and then they're like,

1024
00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:45.639
<v Speaker 1>yeah that smarts are sharks are made super smart? And

1025
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:48.039
<v Speaker 1>then they took out the cameras. They're gonna have some

1026
00:52:48.119 --> 00:52:49.159
<v Speaker 1>law issues after this.

1027
00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:53.719
<v Speaker 5>Yep, yeah, most likely.

1028
00:52:55.840 --> 00:52:57.920
<v Speaker 2>So, Jack, did you have any any other thoughts from

1029
00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:00.880
<v Speaker 2>the whole film from real first experien watching the whole film?

1030
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:02.599
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

1031
00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:05.159
<v Speaker 5>I think to summarize that, I think I would just

1032
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.239
<v Speaker 5>say that I had a lot of fun watching this

1033
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:10.599
<v Speaker 5>big grin from ear to ear, particularly in the second half.

1034
00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:13.559
<v Speaker 5>And I want to give a Specs shirt to how

1035
00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:15.800
<v Speaker 5>Preacher is the best and I'm glad he made it.

1036
00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:21.039
<v Speaker 3>Yes? Hell yeah. So where does it sit in your

1037
00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:24.400
<v Speaker 3>in your top four shark films? If anywhere?

1038
00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:28.360
<v Speaker 5>Okay, so shall I go from one to four?

1039
00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:28.639
<v Speaker 4>Then?

1040
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:31.039
<v Speaker 5>Because as I go down this list, you're going to

1041
00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:35.000
<v Speaker 5>get very different kinds of shark film, absolutely.

1042
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Right.

1043
00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:39.440
<v Speaker 5>So instead of going for films where sharks appears or

1044
00:53:39.480 --> 00:53:42.079
<v Speaker 5>saying like a Finding Nemo, I decide I will go

1045
00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:45.199
<v Speaker 5>outright with films where sharks are the main focus and

1046
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:47.920
<v Speaker 5>the shark is the reason you're watching it. So at

1047
00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:51.320
<v Speaker 5>number one, probably to the surprise of No. One, it's Jaws,

1048
00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:55.039
<v Speaker 5>Jaws is just an absolute classic and it's my all

1049
00:53:55.079 --> 00:53:57.360
<v Speaker 5>time favorite film, so it was always going to be

1050
00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:01.880
<v Speaker 5>number one. At number two, I have actually got Deep

1051
00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:06.679
<v Speaker 5>Blue c and a lot of the reason for that

1052
00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:09.519
<v Speaker 5>is one, it's a lot of fun, and two, as

1053
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:12.679
<v Speaker 5>we were talking about early in the podcast, I found

1054
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:16.719
<v Speaker 5>myself very taken by the premise that the sharks, well

1055
00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:19.400
<v Speaker 5>there isn't everyone are not necessarily the villains, and it's

1056
00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:25.079
<v Speaker 5>ultimately the questionable, ethically dubious science behind them that has

1057
00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:27.760
<v Speaker 5>caused this. And I thought that was a very fascinating,

1058
00:54:27.920 --> 00:54:31.400
<v Speaker 5>interesting topic that I suspect not a lot of people

1059
00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:32.159
<v Speaker 5>jumped on.

1060
00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:36.440
<v Speaker 1>No, I love it.

1061
00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:40.599
<v Speaker 5>So coming down number three will be the shark film

1062
00:54:40.760 --> 00:54:43.400
<v Speaker 5>everybody asked me about, and that is the meg and

1063
00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:47.599
<v Speaker 5>the reason for that being that it's silly fun, it's nonsense.

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<v Speaker 5>It knows it's nonsense, and I'm just here for it

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<v Speaker 5>perfect ye. And then finally number four, I'm going for

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<v Speaker 5>a movie that is absent terrible. It is a movie

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<v Speaker 5>called Shark Attack Free Megalton. It's truly truly awful, but

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<v Speaker 5>it's one of the funniest films I've ever watched, and

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<v Speaker 5>I never have a bad time watching it is, I

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<v Speaker 5>love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like No one had picked Shark Attack three megal on

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<v Speaker 2>their top four until Helen O'Hara was our guest four

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<v Speaker 2>chapters ago, and since then three out of the four

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<v Speaker 2>guests have picked on.

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<v Speaker 3>Helen's uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I watched it recently. We killed it recently

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<v Speaker 2>on the show. And yes, it's a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of the better city, big stupid shark films.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent And yeah, six people have picked the meg and

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<v Speaker 2>lots of people have picked people see and Jules, So

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<v Speaker 2>that's fine. Yeah, you're you're you're in good company with

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<v Speaker 2>your picks.

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<v Speaker 1>Good loss, excellent, excellent and Attack three has jet skis

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<v Speaker 1>been swallowed whole in one of the best lines in

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<v Speaker 1>the history of cinema.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, what's what's not a lot about it? Every time

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<v Speaker 5>I watch it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just silly great. So what would you say is

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<v Speaker 3>your next biggest shark movie? Blind spot? What's what's next

1091
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<v Speaker 3>to your list to cross off? Now?

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<v Speaker 5>Deeplys out, Well, you mentioned Shark Knight three D. Of

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<v Speaker 5>anything you've described about that, I probably do have to

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<v Speaker 5>watch that, But I guess if you want to take

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<v Speaker 5>the easy and so I guess it's any sequel to

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<v Speaker 5>deeply C.

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<v Speaker 3>Two and three.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, two is fun, three is good. It's how we

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<v Speaker 2>describe them, So take from that what you will.

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<v Speaker 3>Excellent.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you very much for joining us, Jack, Do

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<v Speaker 2>you have anything that you want to plug? Where can

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<v Speaker 2>the listeners find you?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh? Thank you very much having me, And if anybody

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<v Speaker 5>listening wants to follow me, you can find me on

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<v Speaker 5>Instagram and blue Sky at couper pay Leo, or you

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<v Speaker 5>can visit my website at ww dot dotor jackiet acooper

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<v Speaker 5>dot com if you want to hire me for any

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<v Speaker 5>sort of shark based talk or anything like that, or

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<v Speaker 5>just have me on your podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome, excellent, and I'm sure we will again because we

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<v Speaker 2>will have more shark questions when we cover different shark films,

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<v Speaker 2>don't you worry. Yeah, we'll have well we're talking bull

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<v Speaker 2>sharks and baby sharks for deep.

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<v Speaker 3>C two at some point, so we'll have to have

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<v Speaker 3>you back.

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<v Speaker 1>For that incredibly broad questions that you possibly you can't

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<v Speaker 1>possibly answer.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait wait, wait until deep C three.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wait for some of the questions at DEPC three.

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<v Speaker 2>Can sharks recognizer situation? A great at marketing plugs?

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<v Speaker 3>We're good listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>You can follow this podcast or over social media at

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<v Speaker 2>deep Blue Sleep. I don't email us deeply sypod at

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<v Speaker 2>gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>Next week. I'm pretty sure next week.

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<v Speaker 2>This Wednesday is on the first of April, so we'll

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<v Speaker 2>definitely be talking about Deep bluecy in some capacity. So

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<v Speaker 2>come out next week for hear us talk about Deep

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<v Speaker 2>bluecy next week. But as for this week, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>once again to a wonderful guest, Jack Cooper. I have

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<v Speaker 2>been Jake Lewis and Mark Halfmeyer, and we'll deep blue

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<v Speaker 2>see you next week.