Speaker 1: Gary and Brad from Bell and Pollock in the studio
Speaker 1: right now. I've already got a couple of questions, and
Speaker 1: I got a guy who's calling back. So get on
Speaker 1: board now because you can call three oh three seven
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Speaker 1: with Gary and Brad. And I would prefer that because
Speaker 1: when you text a question it gets really difficult to
Speaker 1: sort of parse out the reality of it. You don't
Speaker 1: give enough details. They need more information. So I need
Speaker 1: you to pick up the phone and call today three
Speaker 1: oh three seven one three eighty five eighty five. Before that,
Speaker 1: I want to give a something I normally don't do,
Speaker 1: but this seems like a big deal.
Speaker 2: Mandy. Just a shout out.
Speaker 1: For Sergeant Robert Cruz, who was awarded the Soldier's Medal
Speaker 1: today a Colorado Native station at Buckley. Proud to know him.
Speaker 1: He exemplifies service and courage. Thanks no, thank you, Sergeant
Speaker 1: Robert Cruz. Guys, welcome into the studio. Good to see
Speaker 1: you again, Nice to see you, Nice.
Speaker 3: To see you.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having us once and again. Rod Ready to
Speaker 4: go legal rock and roll. There we go.
Speaker 1: I have a question that may not have any real answer. Here,
Speaker 1: but it has to do with road rage. We were
Speaker 1: on the way home from the airport and two guys
Speaker 1: on motorcycles stopped on a major road, stopped in front
Speaker 1: of us, and then proceeded to get off their motorcycles
Speaker 1: to try it. I don't know what my husband he
Speaker 1: used an expletive and said, oh no, and then drove
Speaker 1: between the motorcycles and did some damage to one of
Speaker 1: the guy's bikes. Then we drove to the police station.
Speaker 1: Police came out filed a report. They said, well, we
Speaker 1: can't make a you know, this is a no fault.
Speaker 2: Accident or whatever.
Speaker 1: But in a road rage situation, what kind of stuff
Speaker 1: do you guys deal with that? Are you seeing people
Speaker 1: who have been harmed in a road rage situation and
Speaker 1: what does that look like?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we have our first advice to everybody, friends,
Speaker 5: families is avoid them. But you can't always avoid them
Speaker 5: because here you are in the middle of it. So,
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just like any action that there's liability
Speaker 5: for that kind of driving, that kind of behavior, that
Speaker 5: kind of conduct on behalf of the motorcycle riders and
Speaker 5: so they have to pay the content question if they
Speaker 5: cause injury, there's a big problem. What if you de
Speaker 5: throne your bakes and some other car hits you, and
Speaker 5: then you hit the other car.
Speaker 2: A lot could have gone wrong.
Speaker 1: That didn't go wrong, A lot could have gone terribly wrong.
Speaker 1: It was the most absurd situation I've ever been involved
Speaker 1: in my life and shocking.
Speaker 2: It's shocking.
Speaker 6: It changes from changes from negligence to an intentional torque, assault, battery,
Speaker 6: reckless conduct, intentional conduct. So it can heighten the the
Speaker 6: amount of claims you have against the people who have
Speaker 6: caused road rage. If you're doing things like you were
Speaker 6: talking about, you probably have a pass because you've you
Speaker 6: were acting in self defense from what was happening, So
Speaker 6: you're acting in self defense. What they caused, the injuries
Speaker 6: they cause can heighten the degree of culpability they have.
Speaker 6: Now you know there's a question that you have. Then
Speaker 6: are you losing insurance coverage because there I'm sure they're
Speaker 6: insurance coverage that they have to be right in their bikes.
Speaker 6: Is is not going to cover them acting in road
Speaker 6: rage style? Uh, they're going to insurance companies going to
Speaker 6: say we're not covering that it was an intentional torque
Speaker 6: and we're going to come back and say no, you have.
Speaker 4: To cover it.
Speaker 6: And that's one of the reasons you have coverage is
Speaker 6: even if somebody loses their.
Speaker 4: Cool on the road, because people lose their cool on
Speaker 4: the road.
Speaker 1: The most upsetting part about this is we literally drove
Speaker 1: to the police station. One of the guys on the
Speaker 1: motorcycles following us the entire time, but we drove to
Speaker 1: the police station and was like, we're outside, can somebody
Speaker 1: come out and file a report?
Speaker 2: Doesn't occur to me, they now have our home address.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that seems like something that should be mitigated in
Speaker 1: certain situations, but yet it is not.
Speaker 5: Well, think about it, Yeah, and think about this your situation, Manny.
Speaker 5: So you have the motorcycles as road rage, and we
Speaker 5: say this on our show all the time. We'll say,
Speaker 5: right here, what if and I didn't wish it on anybody,
Speaker 5: what if you somebody was injured? Yeah, what if somebody
Speaker 5: hit you then and you hit another car and the
Speaker 5: motorcycle driver usually doesn't have much, if any insurance, Right,
Speaker 5: So then you fall back on your own you am you,
Speaker 5: I am on your own car policy, which we have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I listened to Gary and Bratt, possible that's
Speaker 1: the perfect you do.
Speaker 4: You know, you can hear it right now.
Speaker 5: This motorcycle driver caused this, They did this, They did
Speaker 5: that well, they don't have any insurance, and so that's what.
Speaker 4: You do well, which you did was perfect. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean my.
Speaker 1: Husband handled it. I mean he's you know, as he said,
Speaker 1: he said he was. He was very taken aback. He
Speaker 1: had no idea. Just the whole thing happened very quickly.
Speaker 1: It happened out of nowhere. It was like, what is
Speaker 1: going on? And uh, you know, we.
Speaker 2: Did what we had to do.
Speaker 1: But I was like, what if because we stopped in
Speaker 1: the middle of a major roadway, what if.
Speaker 2: We'd gotten rear ended, we would have run.
Speaker 1: Over both of them. Yeah, that's the thing that got me.
Speaker 1: I was like, what are you doing? You're putting yourself
Speaker 1: in danger?
Speaker 5: His vetan, he's a veteran. His military training kicked in.
Speaker 5: Here we go, Well, you do not.
Speaker 1: Want to try and block a guy on the roadways
Speaker 1: who was almost killed in an ambush and a humvey.
Speaker 1: That's the guy to choose to do that too, he
Speaker 1: responded thusly. So and you know, didn't hurt anybody, but
Speaker 1: it was not a good scene. Okay, I got a
Speaker 1: bunch of people lined up. Let's get to these questions. Mike,
Speaker 1: you're on McGarry and Brad from Bell and Pollock. What's
Speaker 1: your question.
Speaker 7: Hey, I had ordinary bypass surgery last August and afterwards
Speaker 7: I really struggled breathing and for a couple of months
Speaker 7: couldn't figure out what it was. But anyway, come to
Speaker 7: find out, my left diaphragm was left paralyzed from the surgery,
Speaker 7: and consequently they my left long man is half collapsed
Speaker 7: and I've had some procedures done to try and correct it,
Speaker 7: but it's turns out its permanent condition. At this point,
Speaker 7: it's quite debilitating. I've talked to a handful of law
Speaker 7: offices and no one's no one's willing to take the case.
Speaker 7: They and they don't really tell me why. And consequently,
Speaker 7: all the doctors I've seen are quite surprised that this happened.
Speaker 2: So this is not a commoner injury.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 5: First of all, I'm so sorry that you're going through this,
Speaker 5: but we'll tell you why.
Speaker 4: No, no law you'll take it. We'll tell you right now.
Speaker 5: What they're looking for is a case where the doctors
Speaker 5: can't come in the expert and the doctor's defending the
Speaker 5: doctor that did this. Where they can't come in and
Speaker 5: say that's a natural risk that you assumed a risk,
Speaker 5: it was disclosed to you, then can send form that's
Speaker 5: a natural risk. I mean, it's unfortunate, sir, and it's
Speaker 5: an unfortunate happening. We're sorry, Okay, we're sorry, but it's
Speaker 5: a it's a risk that you inherited. We did nothing
Speaker 5: wrong to cause it, and there's nothing we could have
Speaker 5: done to stop it.
Speaker 4: And that's why they won't take the case. Right there?
Speaker 1: Is that I mean, is that clearly outlineders it in
Speaker 1: that general bad things could happen to you that you
Speaker 1: signed off in French. And if that's the case, then
Speaker 1: can you ever get made whole if you have a
Speaker 1: situation where you have an unusual injury from surgery. I mean,
Speaker 1: it sounds like medical malpractice is just hard.
Speaker 6: Well, that's one of the questions I have for the
Speaker 6: caller is where you advise that this was a complication
Speaker 6: or a potential complication of your coronary artery bypassed. Did
Speaker 6: anybody come and say, hey, you can suffer these problems
Speaker 6: and was any of that put in writing such that
Speaker 6: you understood some of the risks that you were going through.
Speaker 6: Because I agree with Gary, nobody wants to handle these
Speaker 6: type of cases. They're very expensive. The costs are tremendous
Speaker 6: because you have to get experts in the field who
Speaker 6: will testify against their own doctors, their own brethren. And
Speaker 6: at the same time, if there's any hint that you
Speaker 6: or advised that this was a potential complication, then they say, well,
Speaker 6: we're off the hook because now we advise you what
Speaker 6: was happening.
Speaker 5: The other thing is, the other thing is you have
Speaker 5: to look at what facts you'd have to prove that
Speaker 5: they did something wrong, because if they did nothing wrong
Speaker 5: and it just happened, then you're into that great category.
Speaker 5: But let me give you one more example, Nanda, you
Speaker 5: just brought it up. We know, what can you ever do.
Speaker 5: Let's say I'm a doctor. Let's I'm gonna give you
Speaker 5: stomach surgery today, and I give you all the risks
Speaker 5: and then I cut your spinal cord. Right, I mean, no,
Speaker 5: that's a case. Right, there you go, that's not a risk.
Speaker 5: You did it, and there you go.
Speaker 7: So well, in this case, certainly they didn't. That was
Speaker 7: not something they talked to me. About They said that
Speaker 7: they were going to do it on pump, meeting on
Speaker 7: a hardby pass, and they ended up not doing it
Speaker 7: on pump. And I understand this is, like I say,
Speaker 7: a very rare situation. They have to cause trauma to
Speaker 7: that nerve to injure it. They can't, you know what
Speaker 7: I mean, just going in there doesn't injure it. Something
Speaker 7: has to happen to that nerd that they know is there, right, And.
Speaker 6: If you can hook up that they appropriately they're improperly
Speaker 6: uh hit that nerve or contacted that nerve to cause
Speaker 6: the diaphragm paralysis. Uh, then you've got something going for
Speaker 6: you because that's not supposed to happen. But uh, you're
Speaker 6: going to get a lot of doctors who are going
Speaker 6: to say that's part of the risk. That's what happens
Speaker 6: in these things. And we're dealing in such tight quarters
Speaker 6: when we're trying to do a surgery like this, we're
Speaker 6: facing situations.
Speaker 4: That can happen to you.
Speaker 6: Again again, you know, I think probably the main problem
Speaker 6: I hear so far. It takes a lot examining it
Speaker 6: a lot more, but the main problem I hear so
Speaker 6: far is that nobody told you this could happen.
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, well, it sounds to me like they
Speaker 1: prepared him for one kind of surgery and then ended
Speaker 1: up doing a different kind of surgery. What kind of
Speaker 1: what kind of wiggle room do you have there? If any?
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, that's a great question, because when you go
Speaker 5: from what they default to, is you agreed that I
Speaker 5: and look at you to consent form here, you agreed
Speaker 5: that I would do this procedure and I could do
Speaker 5: any related procedure that I and my professional medical judgment
Speaker 5: being necessary at the time. And I don't need to
Speaker 5: wake everybody up, and I don't need to call a
Speaker 5: time out, and I just go for it.
Speaker 4: That's what you that's what you face. I mean.
Speaker 5: But you know, let's talk about disclosure one quick, one
Speaker 5: quick moment. You say this wasn't disclosed to you. Probably true,
Speaker 5: and they didn't bring it to your attention, probably strong
Speaker 5: enough or even at all. But in some cases there's
Speaker 5: our doctor's disclare disclose. Hey, I may injure your nerve.
Speaker 5: And if I injure your nerve, you may have with
Speaker 5: these problems. Here's how they they do it. By the way,
Speaker 5: there's a nerve there and they're done, and they call
Speaker 5: that a full disclosure by you know, by the way
Speaker 5: that you have herder surgery. No, there's a major nerve
Speaker 5: there and hernie surgery. By the way, there's a nerve.
Speaker 5: Let's move on.
Speaker 6: When you've met with these attorneys, have they had you
Speaker 6: bring your medical records in, if they had anybody look
Speaker 6: at them for you? Have they talked about an expert
Speaker 6: to look at them, or having anybody review what the
Speaker 6: doctor did and what's in the records?
Speaker 3: Well, not really.
Speaker 7: There were a couple of them wanted to get really
Speaker 7: in depth about what happened, and in the end they
Speaker 7: you know, they want all the information about who, where, why, which,
Speaker 7: all the doctors I've seen, and all that kind of thing,
Speaker 7: and got very specific. But on believe they looked at
Speaker 7: any medical records.
Speaker 6: I would know that, well, you'd have to sign the
Speaker 6: documents to let them get the medical records. But you know,
Speaker 6: they're obviously not wanting to go through that exercise to
Speaker 6: try and find out if something happens. So they're relating
Speaker 6: the diaphragm paralysis to the coronary bypass surgery. They're relating
Speaker 6: it and saying that's one of the risks you take, whether
Speaker 6: or not that's identified in the records, and whether or
Speaker 6: not the records indicate that there was a negligent or
Speaker 6: an inadvertent problem or cutting of the nerve, versus whether
Speaker 6: or not it was something that happened out in negligence
Speaker 6: or just happened as part of the surgery.
Speaker 4: Sometimes the records are going to tell you that, well,
Speaker 4: here's what I want to do for you. There's about
Speaker 4: ten other things where we can tell you. Probably don't
Speaker 4: have time I want. I'll talk to you off the air.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take you from beginning to in all the
Speaker 5: hurdles I'm gonna explain to you so you understand and
Speaker 5: you're comfortable in your own skin on this question. Because
Speaker 5: because you've got lots of questions and we got more.
Speaker 4: To tell you, we just can't cover it all there.
Speaker 4: I'll do it for free.
Speaker 1: Give them a call at the office three oh three
Speaker 1: seven nine five fifty nine hundred and they will give
Speaker 1: you the rest of the information.
Speaker 2: That sucks. I mean, there's just no other way to
Speaker 2: put it.
Speaker 4: It just sucks.
Speaker 2: I hope that you get.
Speaker 1: Some kind of at least understanding and peace from a
Speaker 1: further conversation with it, but I appreciate.
Speaker 2: You making the call today.
Speaker 7: Thanks Mandy, no problem.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 8: Ron.
Speaker 1: You were on with Gary and Brad for ask the Attorneys,
Speaker 1: which got.
Speaker 8: I'd got a situation. I had a couple that were
Speaker 8: my roommates in my home and I haven't heard from
Speaker 8: them in over a year. I haven't received any money
Speaker 8: from them in about a year, and I want to
Speaker 8: know what I can do to get rid of their stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh so they're just gone and their stuff is still
Speaker 2: in your house?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Oh jeez, Okay, and you're not worried. You're not worried
Speaker 5: about mortgage payments or money from them. You just want
Speaker 5: to be rid of them, right. Is that you got
Speaker 5: that right?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I mean sometimes the people co sign on the lease,
Speaker 5: then they disappear, and then the roommates stuck with the lease.
Speaker 8: I thought there was absolutely no paperwork. It was a
Speaker 8: friendship thing that went sour. And he's an over the
Speaker 8: road truck driver. And I don't even know how to
Speaker 8: get in touch with them at this point because the
Speaker 8: last known address I have for them is mine.
Speaker 6: Ah, so you have That's one of the first things
Speaker 6: I was going to ask you.
Speaker 4: Do you have any way to send contact to them.
Speaker 6: But uh, even if you think it might fail, if
Speaker 6: you have emails, if you have addresses, if you know
Speaker 6: the company that the person worked for and the truck
Speaker 6: driving company, and you can get some information statement out
Speaker 6: to them that this is a matter that you're going
Speaker 6: to eventually.
Speaker 4: It sounds to me like en out disposing of the stuff.
Speaker 6: And one of the things you're going to you need
Speaker 6: to do right now is go take photos of everything
Speaker 6: that's there.
Speaker 4: You need a good inventory.
Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, I would take photos of it,
Speaker 6: and I would have somebody else with you to take
Speaker 6: the inventory. So you're listing everything that's there, it having
Speaker 6: been there that long, the value of it, it just keeps
Speaker 6: going down and down and down. So you can figure
Speaker 6: that when you're dealing with the value of your potential liability,
Speaker 6: you need to identify what the value of these items are.
Speaker 6: By having good photos, the judge can look at and
Speaker 6: say these aren't worth much. Then you're going to want
Speaker 6: to go to every source and avenue of how you
Speaker 6: could make contact with these people. If you have email addresses,
Speaker 6: if you have phone numbers, if you know where they work,
Speaker 6: if you know if you send it to them through
Speaker 6: their work, their last known place of employment, any relatives
Speaker 6: they have. I'd be telling you to put together at
Speaker 6: least ten different letters or ten letters to different people
Speaker 6: saying you know, I've got your stuff. I'm going to
Speaker 6: be getting rid of it. I'm going to get rid
Speaker 6: of it. And give them six months if you need to.
Speaker 6: I know that's an inconvenience for you to have that
Speaker 6: stuff that much longer.
Speaker 4: But give them plenty of notice.
Speaker 6: Give it to every source you can, and if you
Speaker 6: know some of their old other friends, if you know
Speaker 6: some of their relative is, whoever you can, until they've
Speaker 6: gotten till such and such time to get stuff or
Speaker 6: else you're going to start disposing of it.
Speaker 5: You got to listen to about real carefully. You must
Speaker 5: take an inventory, and you must have photographs, because your
Speaker 5: rule of thumb in this whole situation is whatever you
Speaker 5: do be reasonable, be reasonable, and the notices you give
Speaker 5: be reasonable. In the amount of time you give them
Speaker 5: to move and to act on it, be reasonable and listen.
Speaker 5: The pure law on abandonment of property is there has
Speaker 5: to be a physical act of abandonment. I mean I
Speaker 5: just leave and I physically abandon the property plus an
Speaker 5: intent to abandon, And so how do you measure intent?
Speaker 5: The longer it goes, the more my intent is. I'm
Speaker 5: not coming back. But you want an inventory in pictures?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 5: Because what if I'm one of your roommates and I
Speaker 5: show up and I said, what do you do with
Speaker 5: my diamond watch?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, I had a small, dull collection. What
Speaker 4: did you do with that?
Speaker 5: So you got it? You can prevail and it doesn't.
Speaker 5: You can even put a notice in the newspaper, and
Speaker 5: if you do, pick the cheapest newspapers paper nickel or
Speaker 5: something like that, put to notice there.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right.
Speaker 1: And this is all just a cya in case they
Speaker 1: come back for their stuff later, which they may or
Speaker 1: may not do.
Speaker 2: But this is all just to cover his behind.
Speaker 1: It is so he doesn't have to worry about them
Speaker 1: suing him later and lying about what he threw away.
Speaker 4: Exactly all right.
Speaker 8: To do, isya?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: There you get one.
Speaker 1: You've been given your cya marching orders, get cracking, get
Speaker 1: your inventory going. I appreciate the call man. We've got
Speaker 1: a couple of really good questions lined up. Ted has
Speaker 1: a colonoscopy issue with his wife. I don't think he
Speaker 1: has the issue. I think his wife has the issue,
Speaker 1: and Colby has an AI question. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys, you guys are doing any AI litigation.
Speaker 4: Well, we're going them all around it, so let's see
Speaker 4: what we can do with it.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you this, as a person on the
Speaker 1: radio and I am a public person, I would love
Speaker 1: to be able to copyright and trademark my voice and
Speaker 1: my likeness. But I don't think you can do that yet,
Speaker 1: And with as much content as out there with my
Speaker 1: voice on it, people could. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: why they'd want to. I live a pretty boring life.
Speaker 1: I don't know what'd be going there, but I think
Speaker 1: that's going to be an area of litigation that somebody's
Speaker 1: going to have to pay attention too soon. We're going
Speaker 1: to take a quick time out where Gary and Brad
Speaker 1: will be right back with your phone calls if you
Speaker 1: want to jump on board with your question. Three oh
Speaker 1: three seven one, three eighty five eighty five. We will
Speaker 1: be back after this. I have Ted, who has been
Speaker 1: patiently waiting. Ted, tell me about your wife's colonoscopy problems.
Speaker 3: Okay, last September, my wife had a routine colonoscopy and
Speaker 3: it was all good. They said, you're cleaning. You'll never
Speaker 3: have to have another one. About a month later, she
Speaker 3: went I took her to the hospital because she was delirious.
Speaker 3: Actually in the ambulance. Turned out a diverticula had leaked
Speaker 3: poop into her pelvis area. She had a absessed three
Speaker 3: and a half by two and a half by two
Speaker 3: and a half inches, which blocked off the blood flow
Speaker 3: to her leg so she had a blood cloud from
Speaker 3: her hip to her toes. She was three weeks in
Speaker 3: the hospital, three weeks in a rehab and then she
Speaker 3: came home and she'd been recovering ever since. She's doing
Speaker 3: pretty well, mostly well. But we went through hell there
Speaker 3: and we're just wondering should we soe.
Speaker 5: Well, that's what we call a causation question, and you
Speaker 5: should definitely talk to some attorneys.
Speaker 4: But back again to the point we made earlier.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but ask yourself this question, what happened that caused
Speaker 5: caused the first event, and you know it was it
Speaker 5: within the risks of the or the normal procedure.
Speaker 4: That's the question you ask yourself.
Speaker 6: I would either get the medical records yourself for getting
Speaker 6: a training to get the medical records and have them reviewed.
Speaker 4: Right, the result is terrible. You shouldn't have happened. It's
Speaker 4: not normal.
Speaker 6: I would be getting everything I can for the medical
Speaker 6: records and uh and uh, you know, as soon as
Speaker 6: you can get them, if you, if you have a
Speaker 6: portal with the insurance company or whatever, pick up those records,
Speaker 6: get them to an attorney to practice in the in
Speaker 6: in medical malpractice and and have that attorney look at
Speaker 6: it and give it a good understanding.
Speaker 4: If you if you need to start, give us a call.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 6: We're happy to get you in the right direction and
Speaker 6: gets you down the road to see if there's some
Speaker 6: kind of negligent act that's caused the problem.
Speaker 2: All right, Ted, you got your Marchian orders.
Speaker 9: Okay, all right, thank you.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Colby.
Speaker 1: Colby you were on with Gary and Brad from Bell
Speaker 1: and Pollock. What's on your mind?
Speaker 9: Hey, thanks for for for the call. I tuned in
Speaker 9: just I heard the gentleman before the last gentleman in
Speaker 9: the artery nick uh scenario. And I'm I'm I have
Speaker 9: no ailments that would that I know of. I'm an
Speaker 9: AI engineer, entrepreneur, and I do a lot in the
Speaker 9: area of machine learning and computer vision and and on on,
Speaker 9: and so my question is, what do you, gentlemen see?
Speaker 9: Are there any I mean, there's AI everywhere, but I
Speaker 9: see a real using that gentleman's scenario as an example,
Speaker 9: a real solution for that could help you guys. That
Speaker 9: takes all the documents, the records pre surgery and post
Speaker 9: surgery and diagnosis and sums it up. And I just
Speaker 9: don't know if there's anyone, uh, any independent firms have
Speaker 9: approached you guys, or if you see anything that's kind
Speaker 9: of along those.
Speaker 1: So let me just clarify this because medical AI is
Speaker 1: fascinating to me because now we're getting medical AI that
Speaker 1: is better at diagnosing than an actual doctor. Right, well,
Speaker 1: it would stand to reason and correct me if I'm
Speaker 1: wrong here.
Speaker 2: Colby.
Speaker 1: You're asking why not create a medical AI specifically to
Speaker 1: be able to analyze records before, during, and after an event,
Speaker 1: a surgical event, a medical event, and using that AI
Speaker 1: as a foundation to decide.
Speaker 2: Whether or not you have a case.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I think it's within the realm of everything we
Speaker 5: see coming. And I tell you an extra benefit would
Speaker 5: be AI would analyze it, come to a conclusion or
Speaker 5: a or a choice of conclusion one, two or three.
Speaker 5: But I can see AI automatically inserting. Here's four articles
Speaker 5: from the New England Journal and Medicine on point. Here's
Speaker 5: one from m I T on point. Here's one over
Speaker 5: here on point.
Speaker 9: It would be cited with sources. Yeah, diagree exactly, x Ray,
Speaker 9: I mean every single thing. I mean more so then
Speaker 9: you could have even imagined even five years ago.
Speaker 2: Well Colby, it.
Speaker 1: Sounds like you have a new projecting up.
Speaker 9: But I'm I'm I'm fascinated with the area of law,
Speaker 9: specifically in AI, and and I think that's something like this. Sure,
Speaker 9: when I hang up off Search and sy who's out there?
Speaker 9: But everybody's so busy because everything is literally up.
Speaker 8: For grat.
Speaker 6: When you find out who's out there.
Speaker 9: I will, in fact, here's what I'll do if it's
Speaker 9: something that I move into even prototype development, which really
Speaker 9: is I don't need a team, uh, I do it myself.
Speaker 9: I'll contact you guys for a little prototype found it
Speaker 9: off all right.
Speaker 4: To do it?
Speaker 1: Look at us blazing a trail, Golbie. I appreciate the
Speaker 1: phone call, blazing I did. I want to ask you
Speaker 1: real quick and then we're gonna take a quick break
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna take Mora's call, and Amaura hanging there,
Speaker 1: I really want to hear this story. Did you see
Speaker 1: that the attorneys for Mike Lindell were dinged by the
Speaker 1: judge for submitting a brief that was written by chat gpches.
Speaker 1: What now, this is the difference between having a tool
Speaker 1: like the one we just talked about and being an
Speaker 1: idiot and basically having someone else write your work.
Speaker 2: And not even checking it.
Speaker 4: That's the thing.
Speaker 2: How do you turn it in.
Speaker 1: Without checking it to make sure it's good?
Speaker 10: I mean, I'm not.
Speaker 4: Sure you know there isn't.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna bring more on now, Mara, let's start
Speaker 1: your story. We may have to take a break and
Speaker 1: then come back and wrap it up.
Speaker 2: But what's going on with you?
Speaker 10: I was a victim of a harassment, but the person
Speaker 10: was clearly in a mental health crisis. But the person,
Speaker 10: as to you under calls for help and the person
Speaker 10: was arrested. But I, as a victim, would like to
Speaker 10: drop the charges if I am able to do that.
Speaker 1: Now, do you have a relationship with the victim or
Speaker 1: is it just a random person?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 10: I do have a relationship.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know anything about that, so do you guys.
Speaker 1: I know you guys don't do criminal law in any way,
Speaker 1: shape or form.
Speaker 10: But what are the Basically a bystander had called, right
Speaker 10: and if I was able to make the call, I
Speaker 10: would have actually requested a crisis team, but a crisis
Speaker 10: team did not come right.
Speaker 6: Well without without getting into too much personal and Mandy,
Speaker 6: tell me when we got to take a break. But uh,
Speaker 6: I'm going to tell you it's going to depend a
Speaker 6: lot on your relationship with that person.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 6: It's we're long past the days that a spouse could
Speaker 6: be abused by another spouse and they can just drop
Speaker 6: the charges and district attorney won't do anything about it.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 6: They look at the relationship you have with a person,
Speaker 6: and whether that relationship is one of some type of
Speaker 6: capacity where you're so tied into the person, such as
Speaker 6: a spouse, maybe, such as a parent, maybe, such as
Speaker 6: a child that you know or live in, somebody you're
Speaker 6: living with, somebody you've developed a relationship with. They don't
Speaker 6: let you just write those off the books anymore. No,
Speaker 6: the district Attorney's not going to do it. The district
Speaker 6: Attorney's going to require some kind of charge or some
Speaker 6: kind of result.
Speaker 4: They're usually going to want something on the.
Speaker 6: Record that they're not going to defer it and let
Speaker 6: it be wiped off the record. It's going to be
Speaker 6: on the record forever so that it can be found
Speaker 6: by other attorneys or the other legal authorities to be
Speaker 6: able to make sure that if it happens a second time,
Speaker 6: they know it's happened a second time. And normally it
Speaker 6: comes with some mental health counseling to the person who
Speaker 6: perpetrated the crime or perpetrated the wrongdoing, and so, but
Speaker 6: it's going to a lot depend on your relationship with
Speaker 6: the person to determine whether or not you could just
Speaker 6: say I don't want to do it now. They'll even
Speaker 6: force you to come to court and testify you.
Speaker 10: Let me know, one next question, what if it got
Speaker 10: to that point, Well, they're.
Speaker 5: Going to issue a subpoena and you're going to have
Speaker 5: to comply with the subpoena period period. But once they
Speaker 5: get their hands on it, once they get involved, once
Speaker 5: they're present on the scene, prosecutors, I mean, God bless them,
Speaker 5: they do a great job, but they're not giving up.
Speaker 5: And I got a couple of tips for you on this,
Speaker 5: And we don't have time right now, but I got
Speaker 5: a couple of tips for you that I think will
Speaker 5: open your eyes a little bit. How to approach this.
Speaker 1: If you want to give them a call at their
Speaker 1: office mora three three seven nine fifty nine hundred. Of course,
Speaker 1: not right now because they're here. But if you call
Speaker 1: and leave a message, he'll give you a call back.
Speaker 10: Okay, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: That's of luck, Laura. That's a tough situation.
Speaker 1: If you have a family member with a mental health issue,
Speaker 1: it is a struggle to just navigate that on many
Speaker 1: different levels.
Speaker 2: Let's do this.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick time out. But while we're we're
Speaker 1: while we're time outing, think this over. Someone sent this
Speaker 1: text here a while back. I got contaminated gasoline from
Speaker 1: a major corporation not based in Colorado. The total repair
Speaker 1: bill was twenty five hundred dollars. I know I need
Speaker 1: to file in small claims court. The problem is the
Speaker 1: Colorado Secretary of State website sucks. To try and find
Speaker 1: the agent in Colorado. Is there another way to find agency.
Speaker 1: We'll have an answer for that when we get back.
Speaker 2: Keep it right here.
Speaker 1: We're with Bell and Pollock on ask the attorney. I've
Speaker 1: often thought about this when I'm in a road situation
Speaker 1: where I might kill someone on purpose, and then I
Speaker 1: think to myself, Mandy, please ask your guests. If something
Speaker 1: happens which requires a criminal attorney, how do you find
Speaker 1: a reputable one?
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you how do you even go
Speaker 2: about that?
Speaker 9: Well?
Speaker 5: I mean there are some that have good reputations. But
Speaker 5: the our key when we're asked for a criminal attorney
Speaker 5: reference as we use former prosecutors. Know we know I
Speaker 5: Toup love them and they were prosecutors for a long time.
Speaker 5: Then they became defense attorneys, and that's the ones that
Speaker 5: we go to.
Speaker 1: They are the ones who understand both sides. And again
Speaker 1: I would definitely want them absolutely on my side.
Speaker 6: And I've got a relative who's a judge in Aurora,
Speaker 6: and so you know, sometimes I call him up. I
Speaker 6: don't tell him about the case, especially when it's not
Speaker 6: in Aurora, but I'll ask him for who's been good
Speaker 6: in front of you in the courtroom. You know, you
Speaker 6: got to ask around. You got to understand where you
Speaker 6: got the connections and who you.
Speaker 2: Have and yeh and most of us don't have that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I would call you.
Speaker 2: Guys, f yhi, So be ready if you.
Speaker 1: Get a call for me, you know, if I need
Speaker 1: some help. Let's answer the question that we asked before
Speaker 1: the break and this was from a guy who got
Speaker 1: contaminated gasoline from a major corporation not based in Colorado.
Speaker 1: The total repair bill twenty five hundred bucks. He says,
Speaker 1: I know I need to file in small claim score.
Speaker 1: The problem is the Colorado Secretary of State website sucks.
Speaker 1: To try and find the agent in Colorado. I don't
Speaker 1: even know what that means. So is there another way
Speaker 1: to find agency?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: So in small claims courts you don't really need to
Speaker 5: find the agent so much. You just you serve the
Speaker 5: person and it's easy. You don't have to hire a
Speaker 5: process server. You can send him by the clerk and
Speaker 5: sent it by certified mail. Small claims court is designed
Speaker 5: to help you the individual, so it's not a you
Speaker 5: don't have to have a sheriff. You can, but you
Speaker 5: don't have to have a private process server. You can
Speaker 5: if you want to make a point, if you want
Speaker 5: to make it, emphasize something, but you can. You can
Speaker 5: do it by mail and you can send it to them.
Speaker 1: And certified mail, so then I signed for it. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: So okay, so there you go. Problem solved.
Speaker 2: That was an easy one.
Speaker 1: Here's why we've had about two minutes left, so we'll
Speaker 1: see how this goes. Mandy, About a month ago, my
Speaker 1: sister got hurt at work. She works for a very
Speaker 1: popular food chain in Colorado. What happened was she walked
Speaker 1: into the back prep room, noticed that the hatch to
Speaker 1: the roof was open. As she was not doing her
Speaker 1: work back there in the prep room, some man fell
Speaker 1: through the hole, falling about ten feet landing on top
Speaker 1: of her. She ended up breaking several ribs and a
Speaker 1: lot of bruising and a lot of problems. My question is,
Speaker 1: because I know it's workman's comp but could she go
Speaker 1: after the contractor who fell on her, who I believe
Speaker 1: worked for a different company other than the restaurant.
Speaker 4: Yes. Absolutely, I mean there's very.
Speaker 1: Little denial of dude fell on me, she broke his fall.
Speaker 5: I know she can find the worker's comps. She can
Speaker 5: go through that, and she can. That's called a third party.
Speaker 5: And yes, you can go after the third party at
Speaker 5: the same time that you do the work compt.
Speaker 1: Now will workman's comp come after any damages that she wins.
Speaker 4: Part of them. That's a great question.
Speaker 5: By the way, it's a complicated area a lot, but
Speaker 5: part of them, and the leading case is called the
Speaker 5: shoulders case. But anyway, part of them they can get back.
Speaker 5: But you don't say, well, that's a detern. I don't
Speaker 5: want to do this, I can't do this.
Speaker 4: You do it.
Speaker 6: The work comp is limited, chances are you'll get more
Speaker 6: by adding.
Speaker 4: On after the third party.
Speaker 2: To everybody, that's what you need to do.
Speaker 1: So finally we got a clear cut answer of yes,
Speaker 1: you have a case.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 2: Gary and Brad can be found every day.
Speaker 1: Working their little took uses to the bone at Bell
Speaker 1: and Pollock three O three seven nine five fifty nine hundred.
Speaker 1: You can also hear them here Saturday morning at ten
Speaker 1: as I do when I'm driving around, and I always
Speaker 1: learn something that I should not that I should already know,
Speaker 1: which is why I upped my uninsured motors coverage.
Speaker 2: After one of your shows.
Speaker 1: One day, I was like, wait a minute, let me
Speaker 1: find out about that.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 1: I love this stuff, not all my listeners love it.
Speaker 1: I got a text message from a guy who doesn't
Speaker 1: love it. But I was like, I love it and
Speaker 1: it's my show. So here we go.
Speaker 2: I will see you guys.
Speaker 1: So you have a great vacation, sir. I get into
Speaker 1: one of my favorite places and we
Speaker 4: Will get it