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<v Speaker 1>Callaroga Shock Media. Hey there, Johnny Mack with your daily

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<v Speaker 1>comedy news. Jim Jefferies started at age seventeen. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety four, he did some open nights in Sydney and

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<v Speaker 1>said two of them went really badly and one of

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<v Speaker 1>them went okay, And in fact one that went badly

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<v Speaker 1>hurt me so much. I thought, this is all I

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<v Speaker 1>ever do in my life. I didn't get back on

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<v Speaker 1>stage until I was twenty. Now it's all I could

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<v Speaker 1>ever do in my life and the only real job

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<v Speaker 1>I've had. I think about it a lot, and I

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<v Speaker 1>do feel really lucky. We all get older, Jim says,

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<v Speaker 1>I still push boundaries, but it's a lot less about

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<v Speaker 1>shock and more about clarity. Now. The funny thing about

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<v Speaker 1>comedy is that it's more universal than people think. People

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere relate to having kids, hating their jobs, worrying about money.

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<v Speaker 1>The accent changes, but the laugh is the same. Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Birbiglia had sold gold Derby about meeting Pope Francis the

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<v Speaker 1>previous pope. Meeting Pope Francis was very moving, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was very inspirational. He was a deeply kind,

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<v Speaker 1>loving and compassionate person who wanted change for the Catholic

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<v Speaker 1>and he wanted progressive ideas, bussing gay couples and welcoming

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<v Speaker 1>divorced couples back into the church and all these things.

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<v Speaker 1>He would sort of go, well, of course, but actually

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<v Speaker 1>there's a faction of people who don't want that to

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<v Speaker 1>be the case. And so I say in my special,

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<v Speaker 1>I go, in case you don't know this pope, he's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good, but only compared to other popes. If you

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<v Speaker 1>met him at a party, you'd be like this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>But compared to popees, he's amazing. Some of the popes

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<v Speaker 1>were literally Nazis, by the way, the Kurd Pope Pope Leo.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm writing a podcast called White Smoke, and we've been

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<v Speaker 1>putting that out seven days a week since Pope Leo

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<v Speaker 1>took over. There is like the podcast is barely religious.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this week alone, we were talking about how Pope

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<v Speaker 1>Leo met al Pacino and how Pope Leo is related

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<v Speaker 1>to Madonna and Justin Bieber and he's a White Sox fan,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's all kinds of fun stuff to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>with Pope Leo. That podcast is called White Smoke. Wherever

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<v Speaker 1>you get your shows for Bigly I said, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like stand up comedy is always best when it's whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you're obsessed with. In my obsession when I started writing

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<v Speaker 1>this thing was the Good Life. How do you answer

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<v Speaker 1>your child's questions? We don't necessarily know the answers. I

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<v Speaker 1>was really knocking out of the park when she was

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<v Speaker 1>five with the answers, but now that she's eight, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know all the answers. I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>explain drugs and the thing that happened with my dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Her BIG's daughter asked if Grandpa was okay at a stroke,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mike said he didn't know. That's some one was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh well, let me try to say this on stage

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<v Speaker 1>and see if I can find the comedy in it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at all my specials, that's the challenge

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<v Speaker 1>behind each one. How can you take a light threatening

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<v Speaker 1>sleepwalking disorder and make that funny? How can you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about having bladder cancer and make that funny? And it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can, that's the ultimate comedy handshake with the audience,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you can't, then you just have to find

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<v Speaker 1>another topic. I've developed a relationship with my audience where

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<v Speaker 1>I trust them now to be okay. With it, and

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<v Speaker 1>they trust me to take some big swings emotionally. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's symbiotic at this point, and I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a degree to which as a comedian, the audience will

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<v Speaker 1>go there. If what you're saying is funny, If it's moving,

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<v Speaker 1>the audience will go there, and if it's boring comedically

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<v Speaker 1>or dramatically, they won't. Jimmy O Yang told The South

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<v Speaker 1>China Morning Post. There's an expectation, especially if you grow

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<v Speaker 1>up in a Chinese family, to go to college, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's only a few majors that are considered legitimate majors

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<v Speaker 1>like doctor lawyer, a can finance. At first, I was

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<v Speaker 1>an engineering major, but then didn't love it. I try

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<v Speaker 1>to find something easier that would also make my dad happy,

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<v Speaker 1>so I chose economics. His dad helped him get an

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<v Speaker 1>internship with Smith Barney. Jimmy says it was like a

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<v Speaker 1>golden ticket. Everybody wants to work for Smith Barney, but

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy never enjoyed it. He said, when I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd build little forts with my chopstick wrappers. He took

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<v Speaker 1>hot jobs, try to make money from his hobbies. He

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<v Speaker 1>worked as a DJ. He got into comedy and said

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have any stage for it. Although my jokes

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<v Speaker 1>weren't very good in the beginning. I think Hong Kong

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<v Speaker 1>people have a great sense of humor, so I learned

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<v Speaker 1>a lot from that growing up. Of course, my dad,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a very funny, charismatic Shanghai knees man. Bob Odenkirk,

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<v Speaker 1>you have any wisdom for us, Bob tells Esquire. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I do not have worthy wisdom to give anyone. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a strange moment for me. I feel more uncertain than

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<v Speaker 1>I having a long time about who I am, what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to do. I've been out of my element

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<v Speaker 1>for about fifteen years now, starting with Better Call Saul.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to leave this dramatic show and I had

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<v Speaker 1>to learn on the job, and then I did an

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<v Speaker 1>action movie called Nobody. I'm coming to the end of

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<v Speaker 1>a chapter where I redefine myself, but I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>what that means. One of my qualities on screen is

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm strangely earnest. My earnestness really doesn't lend itself

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<v Speaker 1>as well to comedy, which is what I've done for

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<v Speaker 1>most of my career. It fits better in a drama.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the weird things about where I am now

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<v Speaker 1>is I don't know what to do next. Where's the

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<v Speaker 1>next load of laundry. There's no laundry to do. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't deserve half of what I had. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't pretend like I have to engineer some great career.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so far past anything at any right to dream of.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess I have to work on myself, which

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<v Speaker 1>is that wonderful thing people do when they have enough

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<v Speaker 1>money and they're honest about the fact that the universe

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<v Speaker 1>has been really good to them, and anything that remains

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<v Speaker 1>that's a discrepancy or an unsettling feeling is all theirs.

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<v Speaker 1>He does have advice about fights. In a real fight,

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<v Speaker 1>I would, upon the advice of every single stunt man

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever worked with, get out of the room as

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<v Speaker 1>fast as I can. Every one of them will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you the first thing you do in a fight is

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<v Speaker 1>get away from the fights. Fights are not fun, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're not good, and almost no one wins. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a movie. A lot of what you do for screen

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<v Speaker 1>fightings goes against the basic rules of actual fighting. When

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<v Speaker 1>you swing a punch, you go big and wide as

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<v Speaker 1>you can which is not a good idea in a

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<v Speaker 1>real fight, because now you're way open. Lots of slessengers.

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<v Speaker 1>Tour dates include Estonia, Poland, Croatia, Slavinia, Bulgaria, Romania, and Greece.

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<v Speaker 1>Eliza says, I'm very lucky to have fans all over

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<v Speaker 1>the world, so I always get to do Europe. I

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<v Speaker 1>was in Finland, which is an incredible comedy market, and

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<v Speaker 1>these girls came to my meet and greet. They made

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<v Speaker 1>me this really cool card. They kind of look like me,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were like, you should come to Estonia. I

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<v Speaker 1>never thought about a Estonian and b that there would

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<v Speaker 1>be cool girls like that. So I've been working on

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<v Speaker 1>this tour for a few years and I was inspired

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<v Speaker 1>by meeting those really cool girls. I hope they're still

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<v Speaker 1>my fans because I'm coming. You should always be mindful

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<v Speaker 1>of where you are and what your audience is. Outside

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<v Speaker 1>of America, certain references will land because of our pop culture,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's always good to cater to and

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<v Speaker 1>never pander. A couple of local jokes is great, but

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<v Speaker 1>the point of view stays the same. Seth Meyers did

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of press for some reason. This month. He

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<v Speaker 1>spoke to the Good One podcast. He said one of

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<v Speaker 1>the ideas for SNL fifty was I wanted to have

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<v Speaker 1>all the impressions of democratic presidents come out and just

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<v Speaker 1>thank the liberal institution of SNL. Then the fake presidents

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<v Speaker 1>would say, thanks for your help. We've won six out

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<v Speaker 1>of thirteen elections. Meyer said, as much as people talk

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<v Speaker 1>about influenia LESNL is, it's like sub five hundred if

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<v Speaker 1>you truly believe it's the liberal media. It's wildly ineffective.

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<v Speaker 1>And I like this profile from Star News Online, who

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<v Speaker 1>tells us Wilmington, Delaware's most controversial comic. She's a gay,

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<v Speaker 1>conservative mom and recovering addict. She also claims to hate

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<v Speaker 1>being gay. Ellie Coleman has a lot of good quotes

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<v Speaker 1>in this article. Her production company is Ellie Degenerate Productions.

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<v Speaker 1>Ellie Coleman says, mainly, I'm just focused on what pays

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<v Speaker 1>my bills and gives me a savings account. She sounds

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<v Speaker 1>very real. I don't leave my house for less than

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred dollars unless I want to, and being able

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, like coming from being homeless to being

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<v Speaker 1>able to like pay me three hundred bucks, it's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>We are told. Her comedic persona is a heightened version

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<v Speaker 1>of her chip on the shoulder personality. One might call

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<v Speaker 1>it lesbian redneck, a millennial bland of white trash hip hop,

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<v Speaker 1>conservative leading politics, and jokes about everything from gay sex

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<v Speaker 1>and drug abuse to being married and raising a toddler.

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<v Speaker 1>Coleman used to wear her hair in a mullet. She

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<v Speaker 1>wears baseball caps, padded vests with furry colors, and or

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<v Speaker 1>Dale Earnhardt t shirts under flannels. She describes her style

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<v Speaker 1>as one hundred percent insensitive. It's insensitive, and it's one

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<v Speaker 1>half the population is thinking, but they're too scared to

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<v Speaker 1>say it. During June, she jokes about the Pride flag.

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<v Speaker 1>She started making jokes about Biden during the twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>election because she was sick of hearing so many liberal

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<v Speaker 1>Trump jokes, and explains a lot of the stuff I

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<v Speaker 1>say on stages and how I really feel. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>dead serious when I joke about being gay on stage, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the gay community has taking it way too far.

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<v Speaker 1>We got dudes marching around inspeedos and stuff around kids.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, okay, maybe tone it back a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, go do that in a bar. She sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of fun. I enjoy her. She is

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<v Speaker 1>Ellie Coleman, and that is your comedy news on this Sunday.

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