1 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:28,879 Speaker 1: At a book. 2 00:01:27,519 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 2: If you've had a dogman encounter that you need help 3 00:01:29,719 --> 00:01:31,519 dealing with, or if you'd like to be a guest 4 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,079 on the show, please go to Dogmanencounters dot com and 5 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,359 submit a report. If you've had a bigfoot sighting, we'd 6 00:01:38,439 --> 00:01:39,760 like to be a guest on one of my two 7 00:01:39,799 --> 00:01:44,079 big foot podcasts, please go to my Bigfoot Sighting dot com. 8 00:01:45,359 --> 00:01:49,560 Tonight's guest is Mikayla. Mikayla, Welcome to the show. 9 00:01:50,599 --> 00:01:52,439 Speaker 1: Hi big thanks for having me. 10 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,719 Speaker 2: Well, thanks so much for being here. We appreciate it, 11 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,519 we really do. MICHAELA, please give us a brief bio 12 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:00,359 in yourself off. 13 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: I'm fifty six, a mother of four. I live on 14 00:02:08,439 --> 00:02:16,479 the Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia, and this event happened in 15 00:02:16,719 --> 00:02:21,479 nineteen eighty five. I was fifteen years at the time. 16 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: Were the eighties in Australia as wild and as much 17 00:02:25,319 --> 00:02:27,240 fun as that we're here in the States. 18 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: One hundred percent? It was like the best era and 19 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:36,280 I miss it so so much. Everything went down from 20 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,360 being able to ride on the back of the ute 21 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,400 down the highway with just a mattress and your friends 22 00:02:44,479 --> 00:02:49,680 at the back without seat belts, to going to nightclubs 23 00:02:49,719 --> 00:02:53,400 without IDs, the bounces, you know, you knew them by 24 00:02:53,479 --> 00:02:56,680 names they let you in, So yeah, it was just 25 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,479 wild and fun and pretty cool time frame. 26 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a great time. It really was. You 27 00:03:06,439 --> 00:03:09,599 live pretty close to a previous guest, a guest who 28 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,840 was futured in episode forty. You ever listened to that episode? 29 00:03:14,319 --> 00:03:18,439 Speaker 1: I did. That's actually how I found you, Vic. I 30 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:23,599 put my experience up on a forum on Facebook called 31 00:03:24,159 --> 00:03:27,159 rabbit hole, and I was just in a mood to 32 00:03:27,879 --> 00:03:32,400 write it all out, and someone commented and said, hey, 33 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,599 you should listen to and gave me the link. And 34 00:03:35,639 --> 00:03:38,639 it was about the lady in Curumbin, which is only 35 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:44,919 about twenty kilometers thirty to thirty away from where I 36 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:49,120 had the same experience. So yeah, so that's why I 37 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,159 reached out to you after that, because I was like, oh, okay, 38 00:03:53,159 --> 00:03:54,360 we had something in common. 39 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,319 Speaker 2: How blown away were you when you found out about 40 00:03:57,319 --> 00:03:59,719 that encounter happening so close to where you live now? 41 00:04:00,759 --> 00:04:05,319 Speaker 1: Yeah? Definitely it was crazy, like to think that there's 42 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,400 so many you know, if that's happened to that lady, 43 00:04:10,039 --> 00:04:14,479 happened to me, who else in this area? And like 44 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,600 I mentioned to you before, that when I used to 45 00:04:18,639 --> 00:04:23,399 retell the story, I mean not on a regular base obviously, 46 00:04:23,519 --> 00:04:26,040 but when I did, you know, to some people, i'd 47 00:04:26,079 --> 00:04:30,399 call it a yaoui, because I only probably the last 48 00:04:30,439 --> 00:04:35,959 eight years, have been able to give the entity a 49 00:04:36,079 --> 00:04:40,279 name of dog man. I used to call it a yowi. 50 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,040 But when you know, I described it to someone that 51 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,560 actually has seen a yowi, they're like, no, no, no, 52 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,759 that's not a yowi. That's a dog man. And they 53 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,759 were really fascinated, and they said, oh wow, they're they're rare. 54 00:04:52,199 --> 00:04:54,160 But as you say, they're not that rare. 55 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: We don't be nice if they were. But yeah, unfortunately 56 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,839 they're not. Aust really is a very conservative. Please with 57 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,120 that in mind, how much blueback have you had trying 58 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,439 to tell people about your dog mean encounter? 59 00:05:11,079 --> 00:05:15,319 Speaker 1: Probably I know when to tell this the personal, not 60 00:05:15,639 --> 00:05:18,279 like you know, you don't just randomly when once you 61 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:23,519 know someone's not open minded in you know, the supernatural 62 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,360 or odd we'd encounters and stuff you don't go, you know. 63 00:05:27,399 --> 00:05:33,560 And saying that so mainly positive. My mum still can't 64 00:05:33,639 --> 00:05:37,920 really get ahead around it. She thought that I was 65 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:43,800 on something, you know, seeing something which I definitely wasn't. Yeah, 66 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,680 but she still remembers. She's eighty five now and she 67 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,680 still remembers me telling her about it the next morning 68 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,720 and yeah, you know, asking what was I on. So 69 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,519 I think now she might start slowly, but she's not 70 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,639 omitting that she believes me. But she knows that I've 71 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,480 never told her stories people, so why would I have 72 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,920 started then? So but anyway, yeah, so mainly positive. I mean, 73 00:06:09,959 --> 00:06:12,639 it's not something that I go around telling many I don't. 74 00:06:12,879 --> 00:06:18,319 There's only probably I don't know five people that I've 75 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,079 friends that I've told about too. 76 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,879 Speaker 2: That really is a seme. Your mom, like you said, 77 00:06:24,959 --> 00:06:28,040 knows you don't why so sure as ashamed that she 78 00:06:28,079 --> 00:06:30,519 doesn't believe you. She knows that you wouldn't lie to 79 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,000 her about that. But you know, it's a lot of 80 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,680 people out there. They'll live their lives just with the mindset. 81 00:06:37,079 --> 00:06:39,199 Let me get through one more deal with a single 82 00:06:39,319 --> 00:06:41,920 new thought. I think that's what's going on here. 83 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: I don't think she thinks I lied. I think she 84 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,279 just thinks I, you know, saw something, you know how 85 00:06:48,639 --> 00:06:52,240 people when they make things look something, you know. I 86 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,439 think she just thinks it was something else, like just 87 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,600 her brain just can't comprehend that it could be something 88 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:04,439 that we don't don't know about, Like, yeah. 89 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: She's been programmed to think that way that we all have, 90 00:07:06,399 --> 00:07:09,079 I mean all of us group being told that monsters 91 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,160 don't exist. So yeah, it just makes us inclined not 92 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,480 to believe that things like dog men are out there, 93 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,199 but guess what they are? 94 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, yes, And I get it, Like if you're never 95 00:07:21,639 --> 00:07:25,800 had anything like that to go by, then yeah, it's 96 00:07:25,879 --> 00:07:30,800 hard to believe that someone did you think, Oh, well, 97 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,560 you might have mis seen something like oh, that's right. 98 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,519 I've been asked, well you sure it was? That? Couldn't 99 00:07:36,519 --> 00:07:40,839 have just been a kangaroo, which I laughed, like what 100 00:07:41,399 --> 00:07:45,120 kangaroo's you know, nearly eight feet tall and God has 101 00:07:45,199 --> 00:07:50,800 glowing eyes and long, straight up ears. But yep, okay, reds. 102 00:07:50,519 --> 00:07:52,839 Speaker 2: Get pretty big there, Mikila, you never. 103 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:58,759 Speaker 1: Know, oh yeah and muscular. Yeah have you seen them? 104 00:07:58,839 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: They're like, oh yeah, I've seen them. 105 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. But this this was like in a distance A 106 00:08:05,439 --> 00:08:10,040 good gosh, I'm so bad with measurements, but I'm saying 107 00:08:10,279 --> 00:08:14,839 a good you know, forty to fifty meters away. Thank god, 108 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:16,759 God wasn't closer. 109 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank goodness, for that. 110 00:08:19,639 --> 00:08:22,439 Speaker 1: Yeah right, Yeah, no doubt. 111 00:08:23,319 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: You'd been to a nightclub before you had that encounter. 112 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,360 Had do you drank any. 113 00:08:29,439 --> 00:08:34,039 Speaker 1: Not that I can remember. If I did, it would 114 00:08:34,039 --> 00:08:37,919 have been one or two. I know well that I 115 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:42,200 was sober as one hundred percent, one hundred percent sober, 116 00:08:42,519 --> 00:08:46,279 So I can't guarantee that I didn't have anything I 117 00:08:46,399 --> 00:08:49,759 might have. In those days. We'd go early and mainly 118 00:08:49,799 --> 00:08:52,840 it was just for dancing. Nice clubs used to open 119 00:08:52,919 --> 00:08:54,919 really early. I can't remember it for was seven or eight, 120 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,120 but by the time it was like twelve or one, 121 00:08:57,399 --> 00:09:00,799 you already been there for ages, so we're ready to 122 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:06,039 come home. And definitely wasn't any alcohol or drugs or 123 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,360 anything like that involved. I can one hundred percent guarantee that. 124 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: Oh no, I believe you. The only reason why I asked, well, 125 00:09:14,519 --> 00:09:16,320 for the most part, the reason why I asked is, 126 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,840 I'm sure there are some listeners that when they found 127 00:09:18,879 --> 00:09:21,000 out that you were at a nightclub, they thought, okay, 128 00:09:21,039 --> 00:09:24,159 well she drank a lot and she just thought she saw. 129 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: One, and hence that's why my mother thought that too. 130 00:09:29,399 --> 00:09:32,799 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure, Yeah, I don't doubt it. If you've 131 00:09:32,799 --> 00:09:35,240 had a dog mean encounter that you need help dealing with, 132 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,120 or if you'd like to be a guest on the show, 133 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,519 please go to Dogmanencounters dot com and submit a report. 134 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,720 If you've had a bigfoot sighting, we'll like to be 135 00:09:43,759 --> 00:09:46,159 a guest on one of my two big foot podcasts, 136 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:51,720 please go to my Bigfoot Sighting dot com. All right, Mikhail, 137 00:09:51,879 --> 00:09:54,440 please tell us about your encounter. Now give us every 138 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,000 last detail that comes to mind. 139 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,759 Speaker 1: Okay, So, like I was saying, we'll coming home from 140 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:06,519 a night out. That was a pretty typical Friday or Saturday, 141 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,960 cannot actually remember which day it was, but it was 142 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,559 a regular thing. My friends and I did Surface Paradise. 143 00:10:14,759 --> 00:10:17,679 It was a nightclub there called Bombay Rock. It was 144 00:10:17,799 --> 00:10:25,279 really popular or bands from ice House, you two, Yeah, 145 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:30,440 all of them came and played there. Anyway, we were 146 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,120 coming home in a taxi and I saw that on 147 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:39,440 the taxis stal it was like fifteen dollars fifty and 148 00:10:39,919 --> 00:10:43,200 we only had fifteen dollars between us. So I asked 149 00:10:43,279 --> 00:10:46,879 the cab driver would he mind just stopping at the 150 00:10:46,919 --> 00:10:51,080 start of our estate, like the entrance of the estate, 151 00:10:51,159 --> 00:10:55,600 because otherwise, by the time he went a bit more round, 152 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,960 you know, a few more hundred meters, you know, go 153 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:02,759 up more, probably another dollar, and sure enough, that was fine, 154 00:11:03,039 --> 00:11:07,559 and we paid him and we departed. I went in 155 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,960 our state. I went right, and my friend went left 156 00:11:12,279 --> 00:11:16,399 towards her house, and I went towards my house. And 157 00:11:16,919 --> 00:11:21,519 I was probably walking for a few minutes, and I 158 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,799 look ahead of me, towards my right side, and there 159 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:33,600 stood a creature, really tall, even in the distance, with 160 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:42,519 straight up long ears and glowing eyes, long arms, and 161 00:11:42,639 --> 00:11:46,799 quite thin. Dark. I actually didn't see if it had 162 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,440 for or anything. It was just dark and that's all. 163 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:55,799 And I just stood there frozen. My brain couldn't make 164 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,519 heads and tails. I just reacted. I'd turned around and 165 00:12:00,639 --> 00:12:04,120 just bolted grabbed my friend caught up. That's how fast 166 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,159 I was. She hadn't even made it home. I grabbed. 167 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,279 I just remember grabbing her by the arm, like yanking 168 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,960 her arms, shaking her, saying, oh my gosh, it's got ears, 169 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,600 it's got glowing eyes, and she's going, I don't want 170 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,000 to know. I don't want to know. I don't want 171 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,720 to know. And that's all I remember. And then I 172 00:12:24,759 --> 00:12:28,000 know that I just went another way home, and she 173 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,360 went home, and like I said, I told my mom 174 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:37,720 about it the next morning, and after that, whenever I 175 00:12:37,759 --> 00:12:41,080 so her name was Kim, but whenever I visited my 176 00:12:41,639 --> 00:12:45,759 other neighborhood friends who lived one house down from her place, 177 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,519 I would make both of them, the sisters, walk me 178 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:54,440 home at night, because after that event, there was just 179 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,200 absolutely no way I was walking alone home. 180 00:12:59,519 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 2: No, that's understandable. When you turned and saw that dog 181 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,759 me and was so looking right at you at that moment, 182 00:13:05,919 --> 00:13:09,639 or looking at something else, he. 183 00:13:09,759 --> 00:13:12,519 Speaker 1: Was definitely just staring at me, and we were just 184 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,559 staring at each other for it probably seemed a lot 185 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:21,039 longer than it was because my brain just, yeah, I couldn't. 186 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,240 It was the first time I've ever seen something like that, 187 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,799 and you know, everything was pretty normal in the eighties, 188 00:13:28,519 --> 00:13:32,080 so it was just so out of my normality that, 189 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,080 you know, say, if it happened now, I think it'd 190 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,159 be a lot different. But then that was the first 191 00:13:38,159 --> 00:13:42,799 time I've ever encountered something like that. So he was staring, 192 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,720 not moving, just standing. I was stopped in my tracks 193 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,240 until I spun around and bolted. 194 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure you were frozen in your tracks. That's understandable. 195 00:13:54,879 --> 00:13:57,440 You wouldn't happen to remember if all the ambient noises 196 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:58,519 around you had stopped. 197 00:13:58,799 --> 00:14:02,399 Speaker 1: Do you no, No, that I can't. 198 00:14:03,399 --> 00:14:05,399 Speaker 2: Oh that's all right. You had so much on your 199 00:14:05,399 --> 00:14:08,320 mind at the time, and understand the police sell. 200 00:14:08,639 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: That would be the last thing I'd be thinking, Oh, 201 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,559 it's nice and quiet. So that did not play a 202 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,679 part in my thought process. 203 00:14:17,799 --> 00:14:23,159 Speaker 2: Then, yeah, that's understandable. How about sounds, did it make any. 204 00:14:24,519 --> 00:14:27,159 Speaker 1: No? Nothing, Thank goodness. 205 00:14:27,879 --> 00:14:31,639 Speaker 2: Yeah that does help. Yeah, honestly didn't know about dogmen 206 00:14:31,759 --> 00:14:35,399 back then. Knowing what you know now about yourself and 207 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,039 about dog men, do you think it would have helped 208 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,679 or hurt your efforts to come to terms with your 209 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,960 experience if you would have known about them. 210 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: Well, I've only found out about dog men probably eight 211 00:14:47,799 --> 00:14:53,000 years ago, and I was actually trying to find something 212 00:14:53,159 --> 00:14:58,279 close to what I saw online. And when I punched 213 00:14:58,279 --> 00:15:02,399 it in the dog man that images were coming through 214 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,120 were like a werewolf, and they never looked right because 215 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,679 they were more muscular, they weren't up straight, the ears 216 00:15:10,799 --> 00:15:16,440 were small, you know. So it was only just recently, 217 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:21,279 probably at around the time where I listened to the 218 00:15:21,399 --> 00:15:27,120 lady in Crumbin's experience, that I actually found something that 219 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,240 matched my encounter, and I was so happy because it 220 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:35,559 was like, Wow, yes it's been documented and I think 221 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:41,960 I sent you some screenshots about it and that's yeah, 222 00:15:42,399 --> 00:15:48,440 pretty close to the image that I saw. Yeah, I 223 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,519 don't know. I don't know. I don't know if it 224 00:15:52,559 --> 00:15:56,279 would make any difference knowing maybe I could be a 225 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,240 bit more scared area, I don't. I don't know, because knowing, 226 00:16:01,519 --> 00:16:05,759 you know, they can be quite vicious, or they can 227 00:16:05,799 --> 00:16:08,679 follow you and do the things. Like Probably not knowing 228 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,120 anything was a bit better because also your brain was 229 00:16:12,279 --> 00:16:16,159 just numb to it and sort of shock, where now 230 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,639 I'd be like, oh my gosh, this is dog man. 231 00:16:18,679 --> 00:16:20,120 I'm like, you know what I mean, Like having more 232 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,559 information isn't necessarily a better experience. 233 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,559 Speaker 2: Now, sometimes not knowing does help. Other times the more 234 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,879 you know it does help. So I think it really 235 00:16:31,919 --> 00:16:33,240 just depends on the individual. 236 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think probably not knowing for me is better. 237 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: No, I believe you. It's clear that you were compromised 238 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,519 by that encounter. I mean, you didn't want to walk 239 00:16:45,559 --> 00:16:49,279 home alone in the dark, and that's understandable. But what 240 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:50,879 other effects did it have on you? 241 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: Surprisingly not too much. Yeah, it was more where once 242 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,159 in that area where we lived, and once we moved, 243 00:17:02,679 --> 00:17:06,960 I think there was a time you know where you know, 244 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:12,759 I hardly ever thought about it. Yeah, it just wasn't 245 00:17:12,799 --> 00:17:16,920 something on my mind. Like some people had to really 246 00:17:17,519 --> 00:17:22,240 debrief their encounters. I never felt besides not being able 247 00:17:22,279 --> 00:17:27,000 to walk home at night, really did it impact me, 248 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:28,720 which was good. 249 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very good. I wish all of my witnesses 250 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:37,160 could see that. You said its eyes were glowing. Would 251 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,559 you say that they were reflecting light in the area, 252 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,400 ambient light or did it seem to be back lit? 253 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: I think it was back lit definitely those days too. 254 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,759 I remember my estate, I can't remember. There wasn't really 255 00:17:53,839 --> 00:17:57,920 many street lights. It was. We were like the first 256 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:02,119 house built, so there was just a couple of random ones. 257 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:06,960 But it was heavily bushy, and like if you go 258 00:18:07,039 --> 00:18:13,039 there now, you know, you wouldn't know. It's all been suburbanized. 259 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:17,720 And yeah, there's nothing there that would just describe what, 260 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,799 you know, the area looked like when I was there, 261 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:25,480 so definitely came from its own source. It was shining outwards, 262 00:18:25,519 --> 00:18:30,839 not that anything like a spotlight of a street light 263 00:18:31,039 --> 00:18:34,880 was hitting it, and it was reflecting steparately I'm pretty 264 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,880 sure it was like an orangey, but it could also 265 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,279 be green. I don't know that part. I can't remember 266 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:46,799 which color it was glowing. It would have been good 267 00:18:46,839 --> 00:18:49,799 if I said it's got glowing orange eyes or green 268 00:18:49,799 --> 00:18:53,200 eyes or red eyes, then I'd remember saying it. So 269 00:18:53,319 --> 00:18:57,599 sometimes what you actually verbally speak out aloud is actually 270 00:18:58,839 --> 00:19:02,400 something that you remember more than just seeing something. That's 271 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,039 what I found, like Mandela. 272 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,079 Speaker 2: Similar, No, that's a good point, but I think you 273 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,039 did a good job with all the details you do 274 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,160 have about what happened that night, So don't be hard 275 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,960 on yourself. How much time have you spent thinking about 276 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,519 the origins of that dog man? If it had back 277 00:19:22,559 --> 00:19:23,359 lit eyes. 278 00:19:27,799 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: As in like thinking, is it a like a flesh 279 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,960 and blood being or supernatural? Is that what you're meaning? 280 00:19:37,599 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, if it's eyes were back lit. I 281 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,240 was just wondering how much thought you'd put into the possibility, 282 00:19:43,319 --> 00:19:46,319 or maybe the likelihood, that what you saw that night 283 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:47,680 was a supernatural being. 284 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:55,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, I lean more than it was an ecdemonic 285 00:19:55,839 --> 00:20:02,599 entities somehow. Definitely, because it's not thing you know, nothing 286 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:07,519 nature does that so well. I don't know about the 287 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,759 yaowi's because they're like leaving footprints in mud and stuff, 288 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:17,400 so they're actually heavy. I think you call it bigfoot 289 00:20:17,559 --> 00:20:24,200 or something. So there they could actually be creatures, where 290 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:30,359 this one just I don't know, appeared to be interdimentional. 291 00:20:31,559 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 2: If what you saw that night was a supernatural being, 292 00:20:34,279 --> 00:20:36,480 is that a good thing or a bad thing? 293 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: Well, a bad thing, like if it, you know, showed 294 00:20:44,559 --> 00:20:48,880 up in my betrooble something, it would be totally way 295 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:57,480 more horrific. But yeah, obviously any entities that you see, 296 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:02,279 be it ghosts or whatever, are a good thing. 297 00:21:03,599 --> 00:21:08,039 Speaker 2: Normally not. And if it was supernatural, then it was paranormal. 298 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,559 And if it was paranormal, well it's kind of ironic. 299 00:21:12,599 --> 00:21:16,400 You've had other paranormal experiences in addition to that experience, 300 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,279 What can you tell us about them? 301 00:21:20,559 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: Right? So, we had a house that was actually built 302 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,759 on at the Aboriginal land and so I think you 303 00:21:34,759 --> 00:21:37,440 know somehow that land that we built the house on 304 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,960 was cursed and that house, holy moly, had some weird 305 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:47,319 stuff going on. Toys were moving dolls, which you could 306 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:54,440 imagine is the most creepiest thing to encounter. Yeah, my 307 00:21:54,559 --> 00:21:59,000 kids they were young. I had three younger ones when 308 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,200 we're living at park, so obviously had a lot of 309 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:08,680 toys around, and you know, sometimes the whatever spirits there 310 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:14,039 would actually like put like the Teddy Bear dolls in 311 00:22:14,079 --> 00:22:19,920 a circle. Sometimes they were hanging off the fans moving around. 312 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,559 One time I think really scary one was my son 313 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,319 woke up with the doll on his chest. That really 314 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:33,000 freaked him out. As you can imagine, he started putting 315 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,319 a Bible open Bible in front of the door and 316 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,799 that would stop a lot of the stuff from happening. 317 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,559 So yeah, we had our share. But actually this one 318 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:52,920 is probably the most interesting story I'll explain. So I 319 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,119 remember when my son was twelve years old and it 320 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,960 was the first time I asked him to watch his 321 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:07,079 younger brother who's four years younger as his older sister, Isabella, 322 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,359 she was fourteen at the time, and she needed to 323 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,039 go to the shops to get a specific top at 324 00:23:14,079 --> 00:23:18,279 added as in Southport. So I was like, you know, 325 00:23:18,319 --> 00:23:20,880 instead of getting all three in the car and going 326 00:23:21,079 --> 00:23:24,440 to the shops, I was just going to quickly take 327 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,240 her so she could buy the outfit she wanted. So 328 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,519 I thought it was three point thirty. The shops sort 329 00:23:31,519 --> 00:23:35,240 of shut in Australia around five point thirty. By the 330 00:23:35,279 --> 00:23:37,480 time I get to the Southport, you know, by the 331 00:23:37,519 --> 00:23:41,559 time you park, maybe four o'clock. And I knew that 332 00:23:41,599 --> 00:23:46,440 my husband would be on his way home, so I 333 00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:51,160 let the boys. My son was on his iPod. They 334 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,960 were called iPods in those days. He had an iPod, 335 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,480 and I put on like an afternoon show for my son, 336 00:23:59,319 --> 00:24:05,000 the youngest. Anyway, I left them and my daughter and 337 00:24:05,079 --> 00:24:07,519 I got in the car. We drove out of the 338 00:24:07,759 --> 00:24:10,640 estate at Parkwood and then I see my husband and 339 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,400 I waved to him and it was like a sigh 340 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,039 of relief, going great, at least now I know that 341 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,200 he's home. So the boys have literally been alone for 342 00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:23,279 five minutes. And we went shops. Didn't think of anything. Anyway. 343 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:28,240 My daughter was a teenager and there was this angel 344 00:24:28,279 --> 00:24:33,480 wings at the outside of the shopping center and she'd 345 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,039 always wanted to do that for her social media Instagram, 346 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,920 like do a picture. And I said to her, because 347 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,000 I before that, I'd opened my wallet and saw that 348 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,880 her pod was in my bag, and I said, hey, 349 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,000 do you want me to take a photo with your iPod? 350 00:24:51,519 --> 00:24:54,359 And she says, no, I left it in the car. 351 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,599 And I'm like, no, no, it's in my bag and I 352 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,519 pull it out and she looks at it, and because 353 00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:02,160 it was white, I was just used to think white 354 00:25:02,319 --> 00:25:05,160 was my daughter's and black was my son's. Was actually 355 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,440 opposite and she's like, oh, no, that's my son, Dakota's. 356 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,440 And I was like, but no, he had it in 357 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,920 his hand when I left, and she's like, no, no, 358 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,759 that's not mine. Mine's in the car. And I'm like, 359 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,279 I was standing there going, are you sure you know? 360 00:25:22,319 --> 00:25:25,319 And then I thought, oh, maybe he's got hers or 361 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,160 they're mixed it up. But anyway, sure enough, when we 362 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,559 got to the car, hers was in the car and 363 00:25:30,599 --> 00:25:34,119 I had my son's and I'm thinking, how the heck 364 00:25:34,279 --> 00:25:37,319 when I know that he had it in his hands. 365 00:25:38,079 --> 00:25:41,880 So when we arrived home because we were going to 366 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,319 use the iPod for photos. When I got home, I 367 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,359 opened the door and I kid you not, the first 368 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,400 thing I yelled out was Dakota, where's your iPod? And 369 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:57,839 he yells out, I don't know. And after when I 370 00:25:57,839 --> 00:26:00,440 spoke to everyone and I'm like, I've got my back. 371 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,359 So the story goes, when i'd left, he needed to 372 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,240 go to the bathroom and it was getting low and battery. 373 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,400 So he says to his younger brother, hey, can you 374 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,240 put that on charge? And so the youngest son put 375 00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:17,039 it on charge and he went to the bathroom. When 376 00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:20,319 he came out of the bathroom, he's looking down and 377 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,720 there's no iPod and he's like to the younger brother, 378 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,440 where is it? And the youngest song, I don't know, 379 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,119 I put it on. So I'm glad he didn't get 380 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,880 really angry at my youngest son because you know, definitely 381 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,200 wasn't his fault. And the other weird thing about this 382 00:26:38,319 --> 00:26:45,000 whole story is that they all said that my husband 383 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,119 took around two hours to get home, like there was 384 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,599 like a bit of a weird time warp, like and 385 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,720 I'm like, but I saw him coming into the estate 386 00:26:53,799 --> 00:26:56,319 and my husband's like, yeah, no, I came home after 387 00:26:56,319 --> 00:27:01,039 I waved to you. So it was like something really 388 00:27:01,079 --> 00:27:04,960 weird went on and to this day, and the good 389 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,400 thing is all of us witnessed it, so it wasn't 390 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,440 just myself. It's like my husband, you know, because he's 391 00:27:12,519 --> 00:27:15,720 like confused that they're saying, no, you were you were ages, 392 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,279 Like he was like, gosh, you know, guys, you know 393 00:27:19,599 --> 00:27:21,359 you're trying to get me in trouble here and when 394 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,160 and you know that my son sees that his eyepod 395 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,400 is gone. I see it, that's in my bag and 396 00:27:29,559 --> 00:27:32,680 my daughter, So it was witnessed by everyone, so it's 397 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,279 not like we just you know, lost our marbles. So yeah, 398 00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:40,759 that also happened in that house, so yeah, we'd oh. 399 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,480 And also going back to the area in Wrongarie where 400 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,640 I saw dog Man, there was another time when myself 401 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,920 and Kim, the same girl. It was daylight and we're 402 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:59,519 walking and out of nowhere this bush came out of 403 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,039 just wushed past us and it made this noise of 404 00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:09,400 wash where it just rattled everything around us. And my 405 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,440 friend picked up a big stick and started hitting the ground, 406 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,160 turning hitting, and I'm just looking around, going what and 407 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,039 where is it? So to this day, I don't know 408 00:28:20,079 --> 00:28:22,119 if I had anything to do with dog Man or 409 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,799 if that's just another weird thing that happened. But yeah, 410 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,680 I could say I've had my share of weird things 411 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:30,160 going on. 412 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,279 Speaker 2: Well, I'd say, so, yeah, that's an understatement. When the 413 00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:37,880 wish went by, did you ever catch anything out of 414 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,000 the corner of your eye? 415 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,279 Speaker 1: Nothing, Just the noise was really loud. 416 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,359 Speaker 2: Did it seem like that wish went between you and 417 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,680 your friend or around past you? 418 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: No, like through us. 419 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: How far were you standing apart at the time, like 420 00:28:57,519 --> 00:29:00,720 a meter and a half? Well, that's not that far 421 00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:02,240 apart then, no. 422 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,319 Speaker 1: And you could feel it like it was like a wind, 423 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,920 you know, but it's not a wind, because it's just 424 00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:14,440 like a how to say, isolated? Like it wasn't you 425 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,880 know it went through You could feel it just on 426 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,920 one side of yourself. Wasn't that it bushed? And you know, 427 00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:26,400 the other side felt the wish? Had to explain, Oh. 428 00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:28,839 Speaker 2: No, I think I follow you. Did that wish have 429 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,319 a cold fuel to it? Though? 430 00:29:32,079 --> 00:29:36,279 Speaker 1: Not that I can remember? That did not? That's not 431 00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:41,000 in my memory. Could have, might not have. I don't know. 432 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 2: Oh that's all right. That was so long ago, so 433 00:29:44,839 --> 00:29:49,400 that's no biggie there. You lived in that haunted house 434 00:29:49,519 --> 00:29:52,079 years after you had that dog mean the Counter obviously. 435 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,000 Do you think those experiences that you wound up having 436 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,559 in that house though, were connected to your dog mean 437 00:29:57,599 --> 00:29:58,480 the Counter somehow? 438 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: No, I've never made that link. I just believe because 439 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,680 it was Aboriginal ground, like a sacred and it just 440 00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:12,519 had a lot of yeah, I don't know attachment to 441 00:30:12,599 --> 00:30:16,319 the you know they say not to build on I 442 00:30:16,359 --> 00:30:18,880 suppose it's like Indian preservation. 443 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:25,559 Speaker 2: Well here it's really Native American burial grounds. When houses 444 00:30:25,559 --> 00:30:28,680 are built on need of American burial grounds, when businesses 445 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,359 are that definitely does seem to promote and increased incidents 446 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,680 of preanormal things like dog encounters to happen. There's no 447 00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:40,720 guarantee that's going to cause them to happen, but it 448 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,119 does seem like it increases a likelihood. 449 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. But the other weird thing about the house in 450 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,960 Parkwood that it okay, So I've got an older daughter 451 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,759 as well, and she was raised in Parkwood the same house, 452 00:30:57,359 --> 00:31:00,160 and then she moved out, and then my husband I 453 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,839 had more children later on, so there was there was 454 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,559 for a time being, there was nothing like I can't 455 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,319 say that anything went weird when it was just us three. 456 00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:16,000 So it only happened in the second half of it 457 00:31:16,119 --> 00:31:19,160 because we were in the house for like over thirty years, 458 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:24,039 so I'd say for the first fifteen years. Nothing absolutely nothing. 459 00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 2: Makes you wonder what caused all that to start. But yeah, 460 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:28,759 of course we're never going. 461 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,119 Speaker 1: To know, no, definitely not. 462 00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 2: It being on indigenous ground like that that might explain 463 00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:39,759 why you had those experiences in that home. But just 464 00:31:39,799 --> 00:31:42,240 to be thorough, at any time in your life, have 465 00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:43,960 you ever played with Wiji board? 466 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: No, because I knew better. I was at a party 467 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,160 this time. I had a bit of drink. I was 468 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,359 only fourteen, and my girlfriend and I we I think 469 00:31:56,519 --> 00:31:58,640 actually it was the first time we ever did drink, 470 00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:03,079 and we were put to bed, and I remember being 471 00:32:03,119 --> 00:32:08,599 so drunk and horrible experiences. First time had rum and 472 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,400 we were both vomiting and we're basically put into the shower, 473 00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:17,240 both of us clothes off, and downstairs they were playing 474 00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:20,039 the Ouiji boards, and you know, I knew like that 475 00:32:20,039 --> 00:32:22,839 that's not good. And I heard later on that the 476 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,440 glass flew off the table and smashed against the wall. 477 00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:31,839 But yeah, no, no, I knew better never to do 478 00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:35,079 anything like that. But I can't say for sure that 479 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,359 my teenage daughter, you know, didn't do anything in the 480 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,599 house to start it up, like even though I taught 481 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,160 her never to touch stuff like that, she was a teenager. 482 00:32:48,279 --> 00:32:51,119 You know, teenagers don't listen to the parents that much. 483 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, they definitely don't normally. And I've got 484 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,400 a question for the listeners. A lot of people listened 485 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,880 to the show were really up to speed on paranormal things. 486 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,119 I've got no idea what the answer to this question is, 487 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,119 but if you can put in the comments for tonight's show, 488 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,119 if you do know much at all about wig boards, 489 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,240 if you're in close proximity to a WIGI board that's 490 00:33:18,319 --> 00:33:22,079 being used but you're not using it, can that still 491 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,519 predispose you to having paranormal experiences? So if you do 492 00:33:26,599 --> 00:33:28,839 know the answer to that question, yeah, please leave a 493 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,039 comment and let me know. Now, you mentioned the AI 494 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,319 photos you created earlier about what ten minutes ago, fifteen 495 00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:40,440 minutes ago? Would you be okay if I posted those 496 00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:43,079 on the YouTube version of tonight's show for the listeners 497 00:33:43,079 --> 00:33:46,279 so they can see the renderings you created again using 498 00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:50,000 AI to show the dog man that you saw as 499 00:33:50,039 --> 00:33:51,359 accurately as possible. 500 00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:57,759 Speaker 1: Sure that dog man had smaller ears, so I'd only 501 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,480 changed the ears on that image. I just said to 502 00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:03,559 chet gpt make it longer. Is so you know that 503 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,359 image was accurate? Yeah? Definitely? 504 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,119 Speaker 2: Okay, great, Well, yeah, I'll just post those and like 505 00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:14,840 I said, if you're watching the YouTube version of tonight's show, 506 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,840 then I'll have those photos posted. Do you happen to 507 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,239 know what your blood type is? 508 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:22,559 Speaker 1: OH positive? 509 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 2: Oh positive? I can't remember if OH positive makes you 510 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,719 more seemingly predisposed to having dogged me in the encounters 511 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,199 peranormal experiences or not. Have you heard anything about that? 512 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: I I've heard the room about OH negative having Nippelin bloodline, 513 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,880 and that's funny to mix. My mum is negative. But yeah, 514 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,639 I can't see that. But yeah, that's the only thing 515 00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:49,559 I've heard of. 516 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:52,639 Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like you did a good job of 517 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,159 getting over the trauma of that encounter eventually got to 518 00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:59,199 the point where you weren't so frightened. But present day, 519 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,239 are you still I compromised at all? I mean, can 520 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,519 you head into the forest by yourself? Now? Are you 521 00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:07,719 okey going out after dark? Where are you at present day? 522 00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: I don't think i'd ever walk into a forest on 523 00:35:13,039 --> 00:35:17,440 my own, but I'd have no problem walking around my 524 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,480 neighborhood at night, and I have done. And yet it 525 00:35:20,559 --> 00:35:26,400 doesn't I'm not thinking about having another encounter or anything 526 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,880 like that. I'm all worried about physical you know, widows 527 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,840 around than the supernatural when I go walking. 528 00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 2: Oh, well, that's good. I'm glad you can go out 529 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,800 and do things and you're not compromised as long as 530 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,760 you can say that, that's a good thing. When you 531 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:48,119 and your friend experienced that wishing entity sound whatever that 532 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,480 was that blew between you two, did that strengthen your 533 00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:55,559 fear of being outside after dark or did not have 534 00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:56,639 any effect on it. 535 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,079 Speaker 1: Well, that actually happened during the day. 536 00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 2: Oh, sure, it happened during the d But when you 537 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,679 have an experience like that, sometimes it rolls over into 538 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,360 how you feel about being outside after dark as well. 539 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: So oh only at the time, like I said, I 540 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,400 could never walk on my own in the dark again. 541 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,320 I would always make if my neighbor hood friends said hey, 542 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:26,199 come over, I'd get there early afternoon, and if it 543 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,719 got darker, I was like, you guys are walking me home. 544 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:34,320 There was just no way I would ever walk alone. 545 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,199 Speaker 2: So, yeah, what was your neighborhood like back then where 546 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,119 the house is pretty close together spaced apart. 547 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:46,679 Speaker 1: No, No, it was very spaced apart. It was a 548 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:54,400 new subdivided area and we were like, they were there, 549 00:36:54,559 --> 00:36:58,719 Kim was there. There was probably in the estate probably 550 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:03,280 I'll just say ten houses where now you know, there's Okay, 551 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:08,280 we even know a lot. There's no land left where 552 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,159 in those days there was all the land. 553 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 2: If there are so a few houses, what was around 554 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,880 that development just forest or something else. 555 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: We call it bush, So it's just the Australian bush, 556 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:28,679 you know, the typical longer grass, bushy, dryer trees. 557 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 2: Was there a big expanse of bush or was it 558 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,320 a fairly small area of bush? 559 00:37:34,679 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 1: Oh? Well, small, you know, but where dog Man was 560 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:47,199 standing was that the it wasn't as bushy, but behind 561 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,480 him was it was very thick. So it's like he 562 00:37:50,559 --> 00:37:54,280 came out. So I mean it was fairly cleared, but 563 00:37:54,679 --> 00:38:00,079 still little shrubs and bushes. It's not like heavily you 564 00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:01,320 know what I mean, because it was like, you know, 565 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,360 they've cleared it to sell lots to build on. It's 566 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:12,880 like a newer housing estate. But there was area that 567 00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:17,000 was just very heavily treed that the back of dog 568 00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:20,719 Man was very bushy, and so that obviously keys come 569 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:21,320 out of there. 570 00:38:23,559 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does sound like a pretty good area for 571 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,679 a dog men to run around. Although did you have 572 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,599 any moving water in the area? 573 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,079 Speaker 1: No, not moving I was just about to say, across 574 00:38:34,159 --> 00:38:39,239 the highway there's a quarry where they blew up stuff 575 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,599 and then left the dams and that would fill up 576 00:38:42,639 --> 00:38:45,599 with water. But yeah, not that I know, there was 577 00:38:45,639 --> 00:38:51,559 no walk creeks or anything like that. If it was supernatural, 578 00:38:51,559 --> 00:38:52,840 it wouldn't be needing to drink. 579 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 2: That's true. That's a good point from what I understand. 580 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,360 You had another friend who had two friends who had 581 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,440 multiple yooi encounters. What more can you tell us about that? 582 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,079 Speaker 1: Okay, So I have a friend I'll just say her name, 583 00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:15,760 first name, Tanya, and she has friend Beck and Tony. 584 00:39:16,519 --> 00:39:20,000 Because I told Tanya and at the time, I was 585 00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:26,320 calling it a yowi and her friend Beck and Tony 586 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,480 lived in the same area I grew up in and 587 00:39:29,679 --> 00:39:36,440 just called Tambourine Village. So Tanya was telling them about 588 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,800 me having the yowi experience. So everyone just presumed that 589 00:39:42,159 --> 00:39:45,320 I had it in their area because they are having 590 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,639 they were having so many encounters with yaoi's. And it's 591 00:39:49,679 --> 00:39:52,840 interesting is asked about the running border because they actually 592 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,079 have in the back of their house have a quite 593 00:39:56,079 --> 00:40:01,679 a big creek. So I'm now thinking, wow, that theirs 594 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:08,920 must be actual physical because also there's high branches in 595 00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:13,239 trees that get snapped, So they have had so many 596 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,880 Before they built their house, they had like a trailer 597 00:40:18,039 --> 00:40:23,280 typer what do you call them? Forgot the name of those, 598 00:40:23,679 --> 00:40:26,719 you know, like like a shed type thing where just 599 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,960 a temporary dwelling until your house is built. So they 600 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,320 would have I've had something come up to the window, 601 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:43,639 some creature. I think they even had footprints where Tony 602 00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:49,760 I made a plaster of Paris mold. And I think 603 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,360 they even had weirds smelled they could actually smell them. 604 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,480 So yeah, it makes more sense that they were more 605 00:40:58,519 --> 00:41:04,360 physical than my income. So anyway, Yeah, Tony and Beck 606 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,639 wanted to meet me because they presumed that my Yaowi 607 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,079 encounter and they want to just talk to me about it. 608 00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:12,079 And they were the ones that actually told me when 609 00:41:12,119 --> 00:41:16,400 I described it, remember earlier on I said that, then 610 00:41:16,559 --> 00:41:19,320 I was told that what I actually saw was dog 611 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,880 Man because he was he got right into it, got 612 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,320 you know his he was really passionate about the whole 613 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:33,320 Yaowi experience, so he knew his his creatures and told me, yep, no, 614 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,039 that's dog Man. So and he actually thought it was 615 00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:40,119 more rarer and Yowi is more and more common. But 616 00:41:41,559 --> 00:41:44,719 talking to you, we know they're both just probably about 617 00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:47,239 the same pretty close. 618 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 2: Well, it's about time for us to get out of here, Mikhela. 619 00:41:50,559 --> 00:41:52,239 But before we do, do you have any clothes in 620 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,519 comments you want to put out there for us? 621 00:41:57,079 --> 00:41:59,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing that I that's jumping into my mind at 622 00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:05,440 the moment, and just yeah, interesting, Like I think it 623 00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:09,960 is something that you know makes a good conversation piece, 624 00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:15,599 So I'm not I don't mind having had that experience. Yeah, 625 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,880 especially like like I've watched your shows where you know, 626 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,599 some of them have been following or you know, that 627 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,280 type of thing would have been more traumatic, and I 628 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:31,159 think mine, because it was just a standard standoff type 629 00:42:31,159 --> 00:42:36,159 of situation, wasn't as freaky Like had I run and 630 00:42:36,199 --> 00:42:39,519 it was behind me, you know, yeah, I'd be a 631 00:42:39,519 --> 00:42:45,159 lot more traumatized. But yeah, it's something that I don't regret, 632 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,840 is what I'm saying. I don't regret having it because yeah, 633 00:42:49,039 --> 00:42:51,880 just it's not normal thing to go through. 634 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like nothing about these guys as normal. 635 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,000 But as long as you're glad that you had that experience, 636 00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:02,960 and yeah, that's all the matters right there. But having 637 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,800 said that, I can't thank you enough for coming on 638 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,920 to share the details of those experiences with this Michila. 639 00:43:08,039 --> 00:43:09,199 I really appreciate it. 640 00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: Oh, Worries, thank you for having me. 641 00:43:12,639 --> 00:43:16,039 Speaker 2: Oh you're welcome. Thanks again so much, and have a 642 00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:38,360 great night.