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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app. I'm sitting in traffic, said traffic

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<v Speaker 1>and listening to John and Deborah, and they were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the unisex bathrooms and Congress and fight over having

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<v Speaker 1>transgender women, and everyone's lost their minds about this on

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<v Speaker 1>both sides, and something struck me. You'll have to follow

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<v Speaker 1>me on this one. Stick with me, follow the breadcrumbs.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember the hypothetical would you rather see a bear.

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<v Speaker 2>Or a man in the woods?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and all the people who lost their minds and said,

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<v Speaker 1>I would much rather see a bear. Men are scary.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so scared of men. I never know when they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to attack me. Men are awful, yuck men. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>rather see a grizzly bear. The same people that we're

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<v Speaker 1>saying they'd choose the bear are the same people that

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<v Speaker 1>now are okay with penises in their bathrooms. Those are

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<v Speaker 1>the same people you are so terrified of that same

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<v Speaker 1>penis two months ago with the bear or a man

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<v Speaker 1>in the woods hypothetical, so terrified of that penis. But

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<v Speaker 1>this one you're allowing into your bathroom. You're fighting for

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<v Speaker 1>it to be here, fighting for it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're dying on the hill to put it in your bathroom.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that crazy?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think people see the logic, the logical speed

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<v Speaker 3>bumps in that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think they realize it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but isn't I mean, it just it struck me

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh my god, like that is that

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<v Speaker 1>is such a glaring, highlighted hypocrisy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I totally agree all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh.

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<v Speaker 4>I have them in my bathroom all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, you know, it's funny. I was listening to

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<v Speaker 1>Valentine this I've been listening to a lot of our

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<v Speaker 1>radio friends. Good Valentine this morning, was talking about I

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<v Speaker 1>meant to go up there and talk to him about it.

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<v Speaker 1>He was saying to the people on his show that

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<v Speaker 1>you know the older security guard, the one who I

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<v Speaker 1>encountered in the elevator, who told me I had a

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<v Speaker 1>nice shape.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, the guy with the really

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<v Speaker 3>thick ac accent.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Valentine's like, hey, you guys, you know the older security guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're all like, yeah, he's a really good guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got good vibes.

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<v Speaker 4>A whole bit.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, yeah, I just saw him in the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in a urinal.

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<v Speaker 1>He was in a urinal and he said and clear,

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<v Speaker 1>like he's learning English or it's a little bit not

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<v Speaker 1>fully developed or what have you. And he says, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, good morning, And I say good morning.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you. Oh, I'm good. I'm a little tired.

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<v Speaker 1>And ten seconds go by and he says to Valentine,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a nice shape. No, he said, do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel good after your peepee? Like two grown men? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel good after your peepee? And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that is so in line with my interaction with him

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<v Speaker 1>in the elevator.

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<v Speaker 4>That's great, Like you know, when you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Learning a length to be trying to be like clokwheel and.

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<v Speaker 4>Just he's like, he was very complimentary to you, Leullie.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it, but you know, you just you got

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<v Speaker 2>it a little bit wrong, right, you gotta just.

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<v Speaker 4>Have it a little bit wrong. Very funny. Uh well, listen,

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<v Speaker 4>Jesse Smolet, I will never be the man that this

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<v Speaker 4>did not happen.

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<v Speaker 1>To God, nobody woke up this morning and wanted Jesse

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<v Speaker 1>Smolette news.

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<v Speaker 3>The Illinois State Supreme Court has overturned Jesse Smolette's conviction

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<v Speaker 3>on charges that he staged that attack against himself in

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<v Speaker 3>downtown Chicago five years ago and lied to police about it.

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<v Speaker 3>But and this is important, he's gonna walk around saying, see,

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<v Speaker 3>I told you it really happened. That's not what the

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<v Speaker 3>Illinois Supreme Court decided in this case. What the Illinois

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<v Speaker 3>State Supreme Court said was that a special prosecutor should

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<v Speaker 3>not have been allowed to intervene because the state's attorney

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<v Speaker 3>for Cook County initially dropped the charges and made a

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<v Speaker 3>deal with just Smollette ten thousand dollars bond, something like

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen or twenty hours community service, whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 4>And the ruling.

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<v Speaker 3>And the appeal did not address any of the continued

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<v Speaker 3>claims of innocence, because remember after the deal was struck,

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<v Speaker 3>that's when the special prosecutor came in and they put

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<v Speaker 3>him on charges and they found him guilty of a

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<v Speaker 3>whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a legal loophole. It's a legal loophole.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is the thing that I think people forget

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<v Speaker 3>about or people are lazy about when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>legal cases like this. This is not a determination that

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<v Speaker 3>Jesse Smolette did not fake that whole thing and make

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<v Speaker 3>it up. It's a determination that the prosecutors went about

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<v Speaker 3>prosecuting him.

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<v Speaker 2>In the wrong way to do process violation.

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<v Speaker 3>It's similar to other court cases, high profile cases. Take

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<v Speaker 3>the classified documents case involving President Trump down in Florida.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's a similar decision in that judge, A Lean

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<v Speaker 3>Cannon in that case decided that Jack Smith was appointed incorrectly,

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<v Speaker 3>not that former President elect Trump should not have had

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<v Speaker 3>those classified documents and violated law. It was that the

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<v Speaker 3>prosecution due process portion of this case was done incorrectly.

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<v Speaker 3>So does not forget that these are not we're not

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<v Speaker 3>exonerating who wrote that on your computer?

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<v Speaker 4>Who left you these notes?

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<v Speaker 1>These the notes that say things like Shannon smells or

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<v Speaker 1>your show sucks, yes, or your TACKI and everybody knows it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, do you know who wrote them?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's just say it's retribution. I started it. See,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always the second punch. It's always the one who

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<v Speaker 1>throws a second punch that gets in trouble.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't see the first one.

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<v Speaker 2>So this goes back to.

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<v Speaker 1>When I wrote a bunch of post its on left

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of post its on Oscar's computer. This was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, a year ago. Now, Oscar sucks. Oscar

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<v Speaker 1>is the worst of you. Upset you upset people who

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<v Speaker 1>are not Oscar. People lost their minds, like HR was

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<v Speaker 1>called in and there was you know, bosses contacted about this.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've known Oscar for five hundred years and this

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<v Speaker 1>is our love language.

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<v Speaker 2>This is how we speak to each other.

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<v Speaker 4>You suck, No, you suck.

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<v Speaker 1>And the people that saw the notes thought that this

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<v Speaker 1>was just like workplace bullying or something that they don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand the relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone would actually write that intending to be mean, right, yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So now that everyone's been fired, I can go back

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<v Speaker 1>to being a bully to Oscar outwardly.

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<v Speaker 2>And he is and he is dishing it back.

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<v Speaker 3>That's oh okay. So you're saying Oscar did it? Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>well that's good. At least I feel like I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know who it was and I was cons you were

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<v Speaker 3>offended for me, you were aggrieved.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I just didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't want there to become another weird controversial, the

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<v Speaker 3>non existent fight conflict between shows or whoever it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you thought it was the Woody show that these.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually did. I thought I thought it was Morgan.

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<v Speaker 4>That's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they just leave pickles. Yeah, well pickles.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't know there were dill and bread and butter

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<v Speaker 1>pickles on the oh count Well, it's funny that you

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<v Speaker 1>bring that up, because we were making sliders the other

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<v Speaker 1>night at home and I had the bread and butter

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<v Speaker 1>pickles or whatever, the butter pickles, and my husband, who's

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<v Speaker 1>not particular about food, said, why don't you get the

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<v Speaker 1>real pickles, get the dil.

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<v Speaker 2>We only have the other pickles.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I didn't know that that was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a big differentiation between the butter pickles

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<v Speaker 1>and the kosher dill pickles. But apparently it was a

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<v Speaker 1>sticking point some time. So now I've got a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of pickles.

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<v Speaker 3>Ters, it's not about the pickles. Oh really Yeah, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>he had something else going on. Wow, he felt like

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<v Speaker 3>you weren't paying attention.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 4>How would you know if you weren't paying attention.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always paying attention except for when I'm here.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I talk about the awful forecast for Democrats right now.

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<v Speaker 1>If this polling is accurate, which I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>You never know, do you, But listen to this.

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<v Speaker 1>My head exploded when I read this. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>poll from Puck News slash Echelon Insights.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've never heard of that.

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<v Speaker 4>I've heard of puck.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, this poll says most Democrats want Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 1>to be the presidential nominee in twenty twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 4>They're ignoring the.

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<v Speaker 1>They are dumb dumbs. Why aren't you learning from your mistakes?

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<v Speaker 2>They say?

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<v Speaker 1>Forty one percent of likely Democratic voters said that they

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<v Speaker 1>would choose Kamala Harris over Gavin Newsom.

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<v Speaker 2>Well set the bar high.

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<v Speaker 1>And Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro. Despite her loss, Newsom came

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<v Speaker 1>in second with eight percent support. Now keep in mind

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<v Speaker 1>that's quite the divide. She had forty one percent support,

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<v Speaker 1>he had eight percent. Shapiro came in third with seven percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Walls and Pete boot Edge Edge both got six

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<v Speaker 1>percent in the survey, about sixteen percent. We're still not

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<v Speaker 1>sure who who they would choose. We're a long way away. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>more names will service, but the fact that forty one

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<v Speaker 1>percent of people polled in this particular survey would roll

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<v Speaker 1>the dice with her.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, is insane to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, to take an optimistic look at it. You

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<v Speaker 3>figure what she did in one hundred days of campaigning.

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<v Speaker 3>She came in I was gonna say she came in second,

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<v Speaker 3>but they were.

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<v Speaker 2>Voting for her. They were voting against Trump, right, find

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<v Speaker 2>someone to vote for.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's what I'm saying is they have the mentality of,

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<v Speaker 3>look what she did with one hundred days and a

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<v Speaker 3>billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe if we did it over the course of a

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<v Speaker 4>year and a half of.

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<v Speaker 2>A billion dollars, come on.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's that's why they got, That's why they lost.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that kind of mentality.

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<v Speaker 3>And we've talked about Nate Silver before, the guy who

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<v Speaker 3>started five point thirty eight this polster. He wrote on

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<v Speaker 3>Twitter today that Biden should resign. Yeah today, I know,

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<v Speaker 3>is there any particular reason to assume Biden is competent

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<v Speaker 3>to be president right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's a very difficult job. It's terrifying what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, It's a dangerous world, extremely high stakes decisions

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<v Speaker 3>in Ukraine. He should resign and let Harris serve out

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<v Speaker 3>the last two months.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's a real ding dong there between the

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<v Speaker 1>two of them. But yeah, this is a he can't

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<v Speaker 1>take questions when all of this is going on. He's

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<v Speaker 3>And Mike John and we've said the Speaker of the House,

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<v Speaker 3>it would break precedent because of the fact that Matt

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Foley was the guy who was sending inappropriate text

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Foley nexting these pages.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it's a it's a complete Tara diddle that day

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<v Speaker 1>two days in a row with the Tara Diddle.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that was Monday.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that Mondy.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a Tarra Diddle because there's no way it's

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<v Speaker 1>about precedent. It's about protecting asses. It's about everyone covering

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<v Speaker 4>It's possible, that's all.

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<v Speaker 3>It's about the name Anthony Wiener has cropped back up

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<v Speaker 3>the Ethics Committee was looking into Anthony Wiener when he

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty sixteen, soon after you asked him if you could

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<v Speaker 2>The gut never lies. The gut never lies.

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<v Speaker 4>Your decisions about men have been correct, That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>I was wondering when he was going to pull out

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<v Speaker 4>Pull out his name from the who's going to withdraw

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<v Speaker 1>Withdraw his name from because this was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>He was withdrawing his nomination for Attorney General.

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<v Speaker 3>He just wrote on Twitter about ten minutes ago, I

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<v Speaker 4>Remember he went with JD.

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<v Speaker 3>Vance to go discuss this with Senate Republicans. He says,

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate their thoughtful feedback and the incredible support of

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<v Speaker 3>so many. While the momentum was strong, it is clear

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<v Speaker 3>that my confirmation was unfairly becoming a distraction to the

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<v Speaker 3>to waste on a needlessly protracted Washington's scuffle. Thus, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>be withdrawing my name from consideration to service Attorney General.

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<v Speaker 3>Trump's DOJ must be in place and ready on day one.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, I remain fully committed to see that Donald J.

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<v Speaker 3>Trump is the most successful president in history. I will

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<v Speaker 3>forever be honored that President Trump nominated me to lead

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<v Speaker 3>the Department of Justice, and I'm certain he will save America.

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<v Speaker 3>Do not forget. He resigned from Congress last week, so

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<v Speaker 3>that seat is open. Senator Marco Rubio of the Great

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<v Speaker 3>State of Florida has been chosen as the Secretary of

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<v Speaker 4>There's two very important.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, obviously the Senate seat is more important than

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<v Speaker 3>Matt Gates's congressional seat. But now Ron de Santis has

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<v Speaker 4>Lot of power, and.

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<v Speaker 3>What if what if he appoints Matt Gates to fill

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he would.

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<v Speaker 1>DeSantis is not I don't think he's a curious guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I was just going to say, I'm curious to

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<v Speaker 3>see what that relationship is like, because listen, Ronda Santis

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<v Speaker 3>is a Trump supporter now, but I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 3>get the impression that he's beholden. You know, It's not

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<v Speaker 3>like Donald Trump is going to ge on the phone

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<v Speaker 3>with the Florida governor and say, hey, Matt is looking

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<v Speaker 3>for a job, maybe you put him in Marco's seat.

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<v Speaker 3>But there is there is all of the political machinations

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<v Speaker 1>Now Matt Gates is replacement, not chosen by Ronda Santis.

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<v Speaker 1>Now is that a special election will be held in

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<v Speaker 1>Florida to fill the vacancy left by Matt Gates. Contrary

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<v Speaker 1>to reports that say Ron de Santis can appoint a replacement,

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<v Speaker 1>but he.

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<v Speaker 4>Will be appointing, he will be appointing.

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<v Speaker 1>Marco Rubio's yes, Yeah, it'll be a special election.

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<v Speaker 4>All right. Well that's that is pretty significant.

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<v Speaker 3>Breaking news again, Matt Gates has decided that he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to withdraw his name for consideration to be.

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<v Speaker 4>The next Attorney General of the United States. We have

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<v Speaker 4>one right now, we have them one. Oh cool.

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<v Speaker 1>in the White House Press Corps. And got to believe

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<v Speaker 1>that this is going to send shockwaves.

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<v Speaker 2>Not of such big shock waves.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I kind of thought that this was going

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<v Speaker 1>all the dirty laundry that would be exposed.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that's right. I was speaking with Amy King this

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<v Speaker 5>morning about this, and I told her the writing was

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<v Speaker 5>on the wall. This is not a nomination that would last.

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<v Speaker 5>And I also predicted that mack Gates would withdraw his

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<v Speaker 5>name from consideration, sparing Donald Trump what could potentially have

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<v Speaker 5>been a really messy confirmation process. So not a surprise.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the only thing that may be surprising is

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<v Speaker 5>the timing of it. That had happened just today after

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<v Speaker 5>he was lobbying Republican senators on Capitol Hill to support

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<v Speaker 5>his nomination. Obviously that did not go well, and as

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<v Speaker 5>a result, he dropped out of consideration to be the

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<v Speaker 1>Does this speak to anything regarding jd Vance? He took

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<v Speaker 1>those meetings with Gates the power or that he may

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<v Speaker 1>or may not have to sway those minds. Well.

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<v Speaker 5>Jd Vance has only been in the US Senate for

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<v Speaker 5>two years. He's not like this wise old senate Republican.

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<v Speaker 5>He's a freshman senator. People forget that, and so it's

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<v Speaker 5>not like he had the juice to get him over

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<v Speaker 5>the finish line. In fact, what jd Vance was doing

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<v Speaker 5>in these meetings was just simply making introductions and letting

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<v Speaker 5>Matt Gates do all the talking. So it yeah, I

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<v Speaker 5>wouldn't blame it on jd Vance. Having said all that,

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<v Speaker 5>it was Matt Gates that had really an uphill battle

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<v Speaker 5>based upon the allegations, the serious allegations that had been

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<v Speaker 5>fact that he had said such unkind things about the

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<v Speaker 5>very Republican senators who are ultimately going to pass judgment

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<v Speaker 5>on his nomination.

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<v Speaker 3>So we know that last week President Elect Trump no

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<v Speaker 3>need Todd Blanche to be Deputy Attorney General. Todd blanche

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<v Speaker 3>being one of Trump's criminal defense attorneys, does he immediately

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<v Speaker 3>just in common think, does he jump to be the

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<v Speaker 4>Or are they going to start this process over?

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<v Speaker 5>You think, well, that's a great question. You know, whether

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<v Speaker 5>step up one rung in the ladder. That's up to

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<v Speaker 5>Donald Trump to decide that. I know there are a

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<v Speaker 5>Republicans to Donald Trump who could serve in the same

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<v Speaker 5>don't have the baggage that Matt Gates brought to the table.

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<v Speaker 1>John Decker, of course, White House correspondent we're talking to

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<v Speaker 1>right now. How does it work? What does the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>look like? Does Gates call Trump and say I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to do this or how does that work?

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<v Speaker 2>And how does that go over on Trump?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think he does give feedback to the President

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<v Speaker 5>elect to let him know how those meetings with these

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<v Speaker 5>Republican senators went yesterday. And although Matt Gates speaks in

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<v Speaker 5>this post on social media, that momentum was on his side.

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<v Speaker 5>That was not the case. There was no momentum whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 5>There wasn't one Republican whose army could have twisted, who

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<v Speaker 5>had already raised reservations or doubts about about Matt Gates

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<v Speaker 5>being the next attorney general. So I can't tell you

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<v Speaker 5>for certain you know who made the call. But Matt

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<v Speaker 5>Gates put out the social media post indicating that he

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<v Speaker 5>was withdrawing his name from consideration.

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<v Speaker 3>And then finally, does this have any spillover for the

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<v Speaker 3>Trump team might not have known everything about.

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<v Speaker 5>It out Here's what I will say. And if you

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<v Speaker 5>don't know Washington, I know it very well, having covered

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<v Speaker 5>the White House going all the way back to Bill Clinton.

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<v Speaker 5>It is a pack mentality. And now the focus is

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<v Speaker 5>no longer on Matt Gates. The focus of this pack

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<v Speaker 5>will now turn its attention to Pete Hegsett so he

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<v Speaker 5>can now prepare for being in the limelight. And that's

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<v Speaker 5>will turn to him as to whether or not he

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<v Speaker 5>at the Pentagon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're getting a lot of fresh, new graphic details

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<v Speaker 1>more about that, as you predict.

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<v Speaker 2>John, Thanks for your time today.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, thanks for having me talk you real soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, John Becker there from the White House Press Corps.

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<v Speaker 3>My point about Rohn DeSantis and the potential to fill

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<v Speaker 1>Well, dig I dug into their relationship because we were

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<v Speaker 1>wondering about that because we knew that they did have

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<v Speaker 1>a close relationship years ago. Gates was the one who

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<v Speaker 1>kind of orchestrated DeSantis's transition team when he was elected governor,

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<v Speaker 1>called him the best governor in the country essentially, But

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<v Speaker 1>that was before all of Matt Gates's Matt Gates stuff

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<v Speaker 1>came to the surface. So I don't know if DeSantis

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<v Speaker 1>has excommunicated him or what happened there or if he

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<v Speaker 1>maintains a friendship.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Breaking news that just came in a short time ago

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<v Speaker 3>is that Matt Gates has withdrawn his name from consideration

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<v Speaker 3>to be the next attorney general. Already speculation as to

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<v Speaker 3>who might be the favorite now to replace as that nominee,

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<v Speaker 3>and I mentioned Todd Blanche just last week had been

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<v Speaker 3>named the nominee for Deputy Attorney General because he was

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<v Speaker 3>one of Trump's defense attorneys through different criminal cases. But again,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll get some more information as we get closer, perhaps

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<v Speaker 3>some information reaction from mar Alago and what's going on

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<v Speaker 3>with Donald Trump. The problem that dogged Matt Gates were

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<v Speaker 3>the allegations or the investigations into potential human trafficking, sex

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<v Speaker 3>with underage girls, hinky money stuff, etc. Again, no criminal

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<v Speaker 3>charges have ever been brought against him, and he's denied

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<v Speaker 3>those allegations the whole time. There's a problem with the

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<v Speaker 3>Secretary of Defense nominee.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, graphic new details in a Monterey City police report

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<v Speaker 1>have been released.

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<v Speaker 2>They were released last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Involving a twenty seventeen sexual assault allegation against Pete haig Seth.

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<v Speaker 1>They detail a boozy night, a pool side argument, and

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<v Speaker 1>two conflicting versions of what took place inside the hotel

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<v Speaker 1>room of Trump's pick for Deaf sec SEC Deaf sect Deaf.

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<v Speaker 3>I this twenty two page report, and they said that

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<v Speaker 3>it has some conflicting information in it, at least the

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<v Speaker 3>portrayal of what exactly was going.

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<v Speaker 2>It is classic, he said, she said, matter right.

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<v Speaker 4>He did and has admitted to.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Pete hag Seth paid this woman as part

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<v Speaker 3>of a non disclosure agreement.

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<v Speaker 1>When she was asked about this, by the way, by

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<v Speaker 1>I think CNN, she started crying this week.

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<v Speaker 2>At the time.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a twenty two page police report that cites video,

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<v Speaker 1>surveillance footage, text messages, interviews with witnesses, and a detailed,

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<v Speaker 1>lurid and conflicting portrayal.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's October twenty seventeen. He and the woman still unidentified,

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<v Speaker 3>Jane Do, were attending a party after a conference held

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<v Speaker 3>by the californ A Federation of Republican Women. This is

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<v Speaker 3>up with the Higatt Regency Monterey and Hegseeth at the

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<v Speaker 3>time was a Fox News commentator.

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<v Speaker 4>He was the one who gave the keynote address to

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<v Speaker 4>this group.

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<v Speaker 1>After the party, she went to the hotel's bar with

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<v Speaker 1>a group of women. She says that's when things got fuzzy.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason that this police report was filed is because

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<v Speaker 1>she went to a hospital four days after this happened

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<v Speaker 1>for a sexual assault exam, and at the time she

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<v Speaker 1>told the nurse at the hospital she thought something had

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<v Speaker 1>been slipped into her drink. So anyway, she's at the

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<v Speaker 1>hotel bar, she says that's when things got fuzzy.

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<v Speaker 3>She said to police that she saw Pete Heggsth acting

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<v Speaker 3>inappropriate and including women rubbing women on their legs, and

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<v Speaker 3>after they left the bar, they got into an argument

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<v Speaker 3>about the behavior towards women at the conference.

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<v Speaker 1>It was loud enough to spark a complaint from other

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<v Speaker 1>guests about a disturbance near the pool. When the employee

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<v Speaker 1>went to respond to this, haig Seth began to swear

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<v Speaker 1>to curse, saying he had the freedom of speech. No boy,

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<v Speaker 1>and the woman intervened she apologized for hag Seth. According

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<v Speaker 1>to the report, the employee told police that hag Seth.

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<v Speaker 3>Was wasted, yeah, but that the woman was standing on

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<v Speaker 3>her own was very coherent. Now, haig Seth told police, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I had a couple drinks. I was buzzed but not intoxicated.

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<v Speaker 3>So they go to the mostological thing is they go

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<v Speaker 3>to his hotel room.

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<v Speaker 1>They go to his hotel room, and the woman told

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<v Speaker 1>police that haig Seth asked her who she was texting

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<v Speaker 1>and took her phone. She was texting her husband, who

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<v Speaker 1>was staying at the hotel with her and their small children.

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<v Speaker 3>That's weird, she says. She tried to leave the room,

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<v Speaker 3>that he blocked the door. She recalled saying no repeatedly,

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<v Speaker 3>but not much else.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, I should say, he was in the

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<v Speaker 1>midst of getting a divorce from his second wife after

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<v Speaker 1>fathering a child with a producer at Fox said it

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<v Speaker 1>was a consensual, consensual encounter. They both acknowledged it was

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<v Speaker 1>something they should not be doing.

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<v Speaker 3>She told him she would tell her husband that she

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<v Speaker 3>had fallen asleep in another hotel room her cops. Her

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<v Speaker 3>husband told the cops that when she stopped responding to

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<v Speaker 3>texts and calls, he went to look for her, but

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<v Speaker 3>came back to the room after he couldn't find her.

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<v Speaker 1>She says she returned to their hotel room in the

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<v Speaker 1>early morning hours, which to me, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess if she was trying to hide it and pretend

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<v Speaker 1>that she just fell asleep. But why would you stay

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<v Speaker 1>with somebody who assaulted you for longer than?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean? I don't know how it works.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, she says that he was blocking the door.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if he continued to block the door,

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<v Speaker 3>but that was the way that she described it.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, doesn't it kind of make it go away? If

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<v Speaker 1>you were assaulted and didn't choose to have an affair

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<v Speaker 1>on your husband when your two small children earth in

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<v Speaker 1>the hotel room?

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't that make it kind of go away?

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<v Speaker 4>What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's like that show, Oh you haven't finished that show?

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<v Speaker 1>She cheats on her husband with this guy, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it's not cheating.

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<v Speaker 4>Has remorse about it or yeah? Of the story?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's and again this this is from the police report.

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<v Speaker 3>The prosecutors in Monterey County decided not to charge him

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<v Speaker 3>with anything. Right because of those the wiggle room, the

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<v Speaker 3>discrepancies in the stories.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows.

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<v Speaker 4>So you've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.

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