WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:58.439 Weirdly, we welcome back midnight viewers do father Blons weekly 2 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:02.079 round up? I am Father and joining me here back 3 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:06.439 in proper round up form is miss Ripley Jean. That's right, 4 00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:08.760 you get a pick this week. And what a week 5 00:01:09.120 --> 00:01:12.760 it's been crazy here in the desert. How crazy. I'm 6 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:15.799 wearing a kilt right now, no joke, I'm wearing the 7 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:20.159 family tartan as I record this. Why am I proud? Sure? 8 00:01:20.760 --> 00:01:23.159 But isn't it more likely that the temperature jumped up 9 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:25.359 into the nineties suddenly and all of my summer clothes 10 00:01:25.400 --> 00:01:28.760 are packed away? I'd say that was possible, maybe even 11 00:01:28.799 --> 00:01:32.000 exactly what's happening right now? Okay, before we go further, 12 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:34.439 we have a bit of business like how out of 13 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:38.079 order everything has been lately. This past Friday was supposed 14 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:40.799 to be Fusco Fest, where HP from Noise Junkies and 15 00:01:40.840 --> 00:01:44.200 I are discussing the filmography of screenwriter John Fusco and 16 00:01:44.359 --> 00:01:46.959 we were supposed to bring you Thunderheart. But that movie 17 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:49.680 is really really good, And at the same time, I 18 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:51.879 didn't want the show to be another couple of suburban 19 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:55.640 white guys discussing Native American politics and their mistreatment over 20 00:01:55.680 --> 00:02:00.519 the last few hundred years, you know, centuries to that end. 21 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:02.519 We've got an indigenous friend of mine coming on, but 22 00:02:02.599 --> 00:02:05.680 her availability is limited. So instead of the chronological way 23 00:02:05.719 --> 00:02:08.080 we've been hoping to review those films, we're just gonna 24 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:10.439 plow ahead and this Friday we'll be taking a look 25 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:14.039 at the next film in mister Fusco's oover. That would 26 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:17.319 be The Babe, the John Goodman flick about the Sultan 27 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:21.599 of Swat Babe Ruth, whose delicious legacy can still be 28 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:24.560 sampled in Candy Bar Farm. That's gonna be this Friday, 29 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:27.000 And then we'll get Thunderheart out to you, and then 30 00:02:27.039 --> 00:02:30.000 we'll get back on track. We've got two segments to 31 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:31.400 update simultaneously. 32 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:35.800 Here Pals from a Round. 33 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:42.759 Okay, we've been duking it out for the past few weeks, 34 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:45.120 but which musically you'd want us to cover over on 35 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:48.599 the regular show. And so far, the contenders stand at two. 36 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:52.479 They are neck and neck one vote each. Those are 37 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:55.080 American Pop and Little Shop of Ours. Or they were 38 00:02:55.319 --> 00:02:58.319 one vote each, except the Little Shop has officially pulled 39 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:01.960 ahead with a second vote. But now a new wrinkle 40 00:03:02.199 --> 00:03:05.599 because we have a new contender thanks to our main 41 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:08.960 man Ian Banks in Scotland. Hey, I'm wearing a kilt. 42 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:14.159 Who he has nominated the Dennis Potter series The Singing Detective. 43 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:17.319 Does that count? I mean it's more of a jukebox 44 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:20.960 musical and it's kind of a TV series, But I'm game. 45 00:03:21.439 --> 00:03:23.879 I've only ever seen the Keith Gordon directed remake with 46 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:26.719 a Robert Downey Junior and that's like a ninety minute movie, 47 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:31.000 whereas it's a TV series in the UK that Robert 48 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:34.280 Downey Junior rule was originally played by Michael Gambon. Now 49 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:36.879 I'd be lying if the idea of a mini series 50 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:39.919 wasn't daunting. But at the same time, well, two things. 51 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:43.439 It'll force HP to watch like six hours of depressing 52 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:46.759 Douglas cirk like melodrama interspersed with hits of the day, 53 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:50.080 the day being like the nineteen forties, and I get 54 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:53.520 to watch Michael Gambon dance. That's pretty damn tantalizing. So 55 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:56.439 now it's in your capable hands, midnight viewers. What do 56 00:03:56.479 --> 00:03:58.479 you want us to watch? What do you want to 57 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:02.000 hear us talk about? Is it American Pop or Little 58 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:05.240 Shop or The Singing Cop Cast your votes, drop me 59 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:08.280 a line. I'm at father Malone for all the socials 60 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:10.599 you can find me there, or father Malone seven to 61 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:13.400 one at gmail dot com for all the inquiries and 62 00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:17.519 questions and the what have us. And now the weekly 63 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:22.439 question are you watching? And or fellow Americans, are you watching? 64 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:25.839 And or it's wrapping up this week and there's gonna 65 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:28.560 be a huge hole in my rebel heart. You need 66 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:31.800 to watch and or oh my goodness, we have a 67 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:34.399 new segment. I love a new segment. When I was 68 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:36.199 a kid, if I was reading a magazine, it was 69 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:40.639 probably Fangoria. That was the horror entertainment monthly of choice. 70 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:43.240 It came along at exactly the right time for me, 71 00:04:43.600 --> 00:04:45.920 when I was already bristling at the limitations of the 72 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:50.000 likes of Starlog or Cinefantastique. Yeah, I love spaceships and 73 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:52.720 genre movies in general, But where was the fucking blood? 74 00:04:53.439 --> 00:04:57.639 Where were the creatures? The masked killers? Fangoria that's where 75 00:04:57.639 --> 00:05:00.000 they lived. And my favorite feature in the magazine was 76 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:03.319 the terror teletype. That's how antiquated things were when I 77 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:06.240 was a kid. Horror movie news came by a Morse 78 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:12.240 code at the offices of Fangoria. Robert England is returning 79 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:13.879 for the third Elm Street Movie, and it's going to 80 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:16.759 be written and directed by Wes Craven. Thing on things 81 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:18.959 right about as much as your local weather man. I'm 82 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:22.279 still waiting for Apartment Living, George Romero's film about a 83 00:05:22.279 --> 00:05:24.959 cent in apartment building that feeds off its tenants. But 84 00:05:24.959 --> 00:05:27.959 what it lacked an accuracy, it made up for in enthusiasm. 85 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:31.759 Just watching the list of potential projects grow month after month, 86 00:05:31.879 --> 00:05:35.279 year after year made the genre feel legitimate, and it 87 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:38.879 promised a longevity that could not be denied. In the 88 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:41.800 spirit of the terror teletype. Here at the Weekly Roundup, 89 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:51.360 we offer you the Frightening Facts Machine. First, we get 90 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:55.560 the teaser for Predator bad Lands. That is Dan Tracktenberg's 91 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:57.959 follow up to his film Prey, the film that should 92 00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:00.879 have been released theatrically about a Native America warrior battling 93 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:03.800 a predator in the eighteenth century. This one's a little different. 94 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:07.079 It's an alien world and a young predator out to 95 00:06:07.160 --> 00:06:11.160 prove his medal. As such, being young, he hasn't got 96 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:13.600 his dreads yet And I guess a lot of nerds 97 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:17.199 are crying about that. Shut the fuck up, nerds. That 98 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:19.519 last movie was great. This movie is going to be great. 99 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:23.079 El Fannings shows up as a whalin Utani android for 100 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:26.839 a healthy Slice of franchise crossover. That one's coming out 101 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:29.720 in November. The perfect film to go and ignore your 102 00:06:29.759 --> 00:06:33.040 family during the Thanksgiving holiday. I'm really looking forward to 103 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:36.240 this one. In other Predator news, is this the year 104 00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:41.680 of the Predator? With this administration? Oh political predator? Killer 105 00:06:41.720 --> 00:06:45.759 of Killers, also from Dan Trachtenberg, is an animated anthology, 106 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:47.959 so you know we're going to be covering it. It 107 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:51.759 tells different tales in different ages, all involving a predator, 108 00:06:51.839 --> 00:06:55.399 maybe the same predator. There's a Viking tale, a Ninja tale, 109 00:06:55.639 --> 00:06:58.639 and then a World War II fighter pilot tale, kind 110 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:01.399 of like the Animatrix, but you focused and less of 111 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:04.279 a commercial for the next film in the franchise, Last 112 00:07:04.279 --> 00:07:06.600 Flight of the Osiris or whatever the fuck that was. 113 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:10.879 Killer of Killers is out in June and it's streaming. 114 00:07:11.720 --> 00:07:14.959 August will bring us the follow up to Barbarian from 115 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:19.560 directors Zach Kreiger. Weapons. That's with Josh Brolin and Julia 116 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:22.759 Garner and Benedict d Wang and Alden Ehrenreich. It's about 117 00:07:22.759 --> 00:07:25.560 a class of children that one night the whole class 118 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:28.839 get out of their beds, walk outside and disappear. The 119 00:07:28.879 --> 00:07:32.879 trailer is creepy as fuck. I am not looking forward 120 00:07:32.879 --> 00:07:34.920 to this. I mean that in the best way possible. 121 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:38.800 The trailer creeped me out. In Stephen King news, don't 122 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:42.120 try and cancel Stephen King. In fact, stop canceling each other. 123 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:44.839 There are real fucking problems in the world. We don't 124 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:48.360 need to be canceling a fucking stalwart standard bearer. The 125 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:51.920 guy on top of the hill fucking urging us on anyway. 126 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:55.439 Francis Lawrence, who made that fucking excellent Constantine and a 127 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:57.759 whole bunch of Hunger Game movies that I couldn't get through, 128 00:07:58.079 --> 00:08:01.000 is here adapting the Stephen King novella The Long Walk, 129 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:04.800 although technically it's a Richard Bachman novella. King's pen name 130 00:08:04.839 --> 00:08:08.800 there for a while. Have all the Bachman books been adapted, No, 131 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:12.519 and they are never going to adapt Rage. Here is 132 00:08:12.600 --> 00:08:15.480 a simple story, much like Bachman's other book, The Running Man. 133 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:17.959 This is a game show of sorts. You volunteer for 134 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:21.240 the Long Walk to win millions. The rule is you 135 00:08:21.319 --> 00:08:23.959 walk at an unbroken three miles an hour. If you 136 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:26.959 fall short, you're given three warnings and then you're executed. 137 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:30.079 It's kind of like speed mashed up with they shoot horses, 138 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:34.480 don't they? In a dystopian future. Okay, let's jump back 139 00:08:34.519 --> 00:08:38.679 in time, shall we? To April of nineteen ninety two. 140 00:08:38.799 --> 00:08:41.600 I remember a very sultry Friday night at the Cineplex 141 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:45.000 odeon on Fairfax in Los Angeles, the same theater that 142 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:46.879 a few months later, a friend of mine would get 143 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:49.799 the print for Batman Returns for press screening a full 144 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:52.399 week before that movie came out, so he was going 145 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:54.519 to screen it that night, but he told too many 146 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:56.799 fucking people, so by the time we got there at midnight, 147 00:08:56.840 --> 00:08:59.600 there was an entire block of hundreds of expected people 148 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:02.960 out onto the street. On a random Thursday in June, 149 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:06.559 they've canceled and sent everyone home, and then we watched 150 00:09:06.559 --> 00:09:09.879 it a two am haha. But on this night, several 151 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:13.200 months earlier, the theater is fucking packed, and because of 152 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:16.480 the sudden heat outside, the ac hasn't had a chance 153 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:20.240 to catch up. So it's this weird, humid, two cold atmosphere. 154 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:23.360 And the first trailer is for Glengarry Glenn Ross, which 155 00:09:23.399 --> 00:09:26.080 is just a giant brass ball swinging back and forth 156 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:29.120 in Alec Baldwin's speech, and then they reveal the brass 157 00:09:29.159 --> 00:09:32.000 Balls prop. But then after all the coming soons and 158 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:34.799 the pick up your trashes and the no talking admonishments. 159 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:38.919 Robert Almans film The Player Unspooled. That's Altman and screenwriter 160 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:42.639 Michael Tolkien's poisoned love letter to the then contemporary Hollywood 161 00:09:42.679 --> 00:09:45.519 studio system that was packed to the fucking gills, with 162 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:48.960 celebrities of every stripe and strata popping up to lampoon 163 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:52.559 themselves in the entire twisted industry, anchored with a lead 164 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:56.440 performance by Tim Robbins as studio head Griffin Mill, who 165 00:09:56.519 --> 00:09:59.799 accidentally kills a screenwriter that he believes has been blackmailing him, 166 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:02.600 and the frantic attempt to cover his tracks and still 167 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:06.759 maintain tenuous grasp over the control of his company. It 168 00:10:06.879 --> 00:10:10.000 is a wide eyed, black hearted gaze into everything terrible 169 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:13.120 and fantastic in the film industry. I was surprised we 170 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:16.000 didn't see follow ups over the years, brief chick ins 171 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:18.720 with Griffin Mill to see how he's doing. The Player 172 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:21.360 was a novel, after all, how about a sequel, mister Tolkien? 173 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:24.799 Oh wait, never mind, seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg have 174 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:27.960 picked up that particular ball. This is the studio. 175 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:32.799 Being the head of Continental is the only job I've 176 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:36.039 ever wanted. Yeah, honored obviously to be one of the 177 00:10:36.039 --> 00:10:36.639 people they guess. 178 00:10:36.679 --> 00:10:37.200 It's a choose. 179 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:39.720 You know which movies get made and which ones don't. 180 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:40.519 That's huge. 181 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:44.240 And I got into all this because you know, I 182 00:10:44.320 --> 00:10:50.639 love movies, But now I have this fear that my 183 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:54.600 job is to ruin them. The job as a meat grinder. 184 00:10:56.720 --> 00:11:00.840 Prestige films and box office hits, those are not me exclusive. 185 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:03.000 We can do both, and we will do both. 186 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:06.279 Matt, I get it. You want to make great art 187 00:11:06.320 --> 00:11:07.759 and make a billion dollars doing it. 188 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:10.360 Well, guess what, that never happens, and you're gonna screw 189 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:13.000 everything up trying to make it happen. It was up 190 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:15.399 to me, we'd be focusing on making the next Rosemary's 191 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:18.159 Baby or Annie Hall or some great film that wasn't 192 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:19.159 directed by a pervert. 193 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:20.759 Make great movies. 194 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:24.240 They really do well. I love Okay, there's. 195 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:25.799 Zero margin for error on this shot. 196 00:11:25.919 --> 00:11:28.159 Actually, please, gret yo, I actually want to talk to 197 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:29.960 you about award season. Just make sure to keep your 198 00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:30.759 winter clear. 199 00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:31.480 Wrote Matt. 200 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:40.679 Cut this and show. It's just so much harder than 201 00:11:40.720 --> 00:11:43.360 I thought it was going to be what I met. 202 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:45.600 Everyone wants something from me, and I can't give it 203 00:11:45.639 --> 00:11:45.919 to them. 204 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:47.879 If you guys are actually open to doing something different, 205 00:11:47.879 --> 00:11:48.759 I have a lot of ideas. 206 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:50.399 We love new ideas. 207 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:52.039 It's just not too new because we got a pretty 208 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:53.159 tight formula that we got hit. 209 00:11:53.320 --> 00:11:55.240 And I wouldn't say it's a formula so much as 210 00:11:55.279 --> 00:11:57.679 a structure that we one hundred percent no work. So 211 00:11:57.720 --> 00:11:58.480 we're gonna do it over. 212 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:02.120 And over again. Mine is not good enough this race? 213 00:12:02.360 --> 00:12:04.759 Do you want to bring out the why didn't this 214 00:12:04.919 --> 00:12:06.639 party gown? Why do you keep lying? 215 00:12:06.639 --> 00:12:07.039 What is. 216 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:14.240 The job? Nacious? Dressed and panicked and miserable, But when 217 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:18.480 it all comes together and you make a good movie, 218 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:21.000 it's good forever. 219 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:29.320 Well, you're gonna get us all fired. The Studio is 220 00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:31.679 currently airing on Apple Plus, and I think Rogan and 221 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:33.840 Goldberg would be the first to cite the influence of 222 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:36.279 the Player on their show, not just the setting and 223 00:12:36.320 --> 00:12:40.399 the cameos and frantic nature, but the jazzy, improvisational sounding score, 224 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:44.039 the adherence to the longest takes possible and handheld takes 225 00:12:44.039 --> 00:12:47.279 it that and overall the underlying and deeply felt love 226 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:50.320 for Hollywood. Though in that regard, the studio kind of 227 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:52.600 has it over the player, because while you sense the 228 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:55.360 characters and the player are trapped in their situations, the 229 00:12:55.440 --> 00:12:59.360 characters in the studio are happy volunteers. You know, these days, 230 00:12:59.399 --> 00:13:02.480 when people talk with the preservation of and continued endurance 231 00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:06.159 of cinema, they're talking about people like Scorsese or Christopher Nolan. 232 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:08.759 Even Tarantino was part of that with his adherence to 233 00:13:08.799 --> 00:13:12.039 celluloid over digital. By the way, David Cronenberg came out 234 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:15.200 swinging this week about the superiority of digital to film. 235 00:13:15.600 --> 00:13:17.440 You got to love when an elder sets you straight 236 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:20.399 about the good old days. I once met Franklin Jella, 237 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:23.639 the actor who played Dracula. He's fucking huge, by the way, 238 00:13:23.720 --> 00:13:26.240 and I told him I thought his Dracula was really scary. 239 00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:28.600 And he put his hand on my shoulder and he 240 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:33.519 leaned him very close, and he intoned, you were very young, 241 00:13:34.159 --> 00:13:37.159 which was true, and he's right. It wasn't a scary performance, 242 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:39.840 but it's a great performance anyway. You can name all 243 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:42.639 the current greats and all their self seriousness. The pt 244 00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:46.480 Anderson's the Damien Chaseell's that fucking Eggers guy. And you 245 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:49.159 could say the future of cinema is secure, it's in 246 00:13:49.240 --> 00:13:52.399 decent hands. And I'd say maybe, who knows, But I 247 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:55.000 know the future of Hollywood is secure. And it's not 248 00:13:55.039 --> 00:13:57.960 because any of those fuckers. It's seth Rogen and Evan 249 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:01.200 Goldberg leading the way, and they've been doing it for decades. 250 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:04.279 They've managed through all the high and low ends of 251 00:14:04.360 --> 00:14:08.360 the dramatic spectrum, from gross out nonsense to absolute refinement. 252 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:11.200 Certainly that's on display here in the studio, and they've 253 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:14.080 managed the greatest trick ever. They've done so with genuine 254 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:17.600 characters interacting in realistic ways. So yeah, they wrote a 255 00:14:17.639 --> 00:14:20.279 high school party movie that's really a story about two 256 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:24.000 childhood friends who are terrified of losing each other. In fact, 257 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:27.240 friendship is a predominant theme in their work. Probably why 258 00:14:27.279 --> 00:14:30.279 Theirs is the best adaptation of the teenage mutant Ninja Turtles, 259 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:34.440 where they were, you know, actual teenagers. They've done a 260 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:37.240 clutch of movies and TV show togethers, and dare I say, 261 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:40.159 while everyone has been getting superhero fatigue from watching the 262 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:44.039 same Titans, duke it out talking about DC versus Marvel, 263 00:14:44.200 --> 00:14:47.480 and sometimes Marvel versus Marvel whenever Sony needs to extend 264 00:14:47.480 --> 00:14:50.679 a copyright. Rogan and Goldberg have been like Dark Horse 265 00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:53.759 or Image Comics, just pumping out the most exciting comic 266 00:14:53.759 --> 00:14:57.159 book stuff ever. They produced and sometimes wrote Preacher, a 267 00:14:57.200 --> 00:14:59.840 great adaptation of the Garth Ennis title. Then they pret 268 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:02.840 The Boys, and if that's not the best parot of 269 00:15:02.840 --> 00:15:05.960 superheroes ever, well it is. That's the end of that sentence. 270 00:15:06.480 --> 00:15:08.480 And on the other end of the same fucking spectrum, 271 00:15:08.519 --> 00:15:12.799 they're producing the animated series of Robert Kirkman's Invincible. I 272 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:15.799 know you're watching The Boys, but you gotta watch Invincible. 273 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:18.919 It's fucking incredible. I really think these guys are the 274 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:22.240 standard bearers for New Hollywood, because a new one is coming. 275 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:25.080 But if you want to watch the way old Hollywood 276 00:15:25.159 --> 00:15:28.440 is dealing with the transition, then The Studio is the 277 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:32.440 show for you. Rogan plays Matt Remick, the newly anointed 278 00:15:32.440 --> 00:15:35.440 head of Continental Studios, pushing out former head Paddy Lee, 279 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:40.000 played by streaming service Lucky charm Catherine O'Hara. This and 280 00:15:40.080 --> 00:15:43.639 the Last of Us so greedy, But then again, there's 281 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:47.320 not enough more O'Hara. Are you here. He's assisted, if 282 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:49.919 you can say that, by Matt's friend and VP of production, 283 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:53.519 Sal sapristein that's the name you're gonna really remember by 284 00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:56.240 the end of the series, played by Ike Barnholtz, as 285 00:15:56.279 --> 00:15:59.559 he tries to battle the encroaching tide of IP mania 286 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:05.000 that is consumed the entertainment world. That IP the intellectual property, 287 00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:08.120 is king these days, and they deal with it right 288 00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:10.559 out of the gate, with Continental securing the rights to 289 00:16:10.639 --> 00:16:13.519 make a kool Aid movie. How do you balance that 290 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:17.600 commerce with art? Is it possible? Is anything art anymore? 291 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:20.679 I suppose you can hire Martin Scorsese as they do here, 292 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:23.120 and he can try to make a biography of Jim 293 00:16:23.240 --> 00:16:25.440 Jones and the Jonestown cult and call the whole thing 294 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:29.240 kool aid. That goes down well kind of like kool aid. 295 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:31.679 If I'm being honest, I kind of hated that beverage, 296 00:16:31.840 --> 00:16:33.720 except for the blue version that came out in the 297 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:36.679 late eighties. Oh man, that was delicious. A picture of 298 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:40.320 blue drink in Castlevania. That's an evening. But that's just 299 00:16:40.360 --> 00:16:44.000 episode one. Rogan's Matt is a self described cinophile, which 300 00:16:44.039 --> 00:16:46.240 is a dangerous thing to be in the current climate. 301 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:48.799 So when he allows a filmmaker to shoot on film 302 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:51.720 with much grand standing and a real goes missing, it 303 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:53.879 isn't just a fuck up that insurance will cover. It's 304 00:16:53.919 --> 00:16:56.360 one of a million potential pitfalls that can bring the 305 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:59.639 whole studio down, which might have seemed hilarious back in 306 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:02.960 the day. But studios are falling left and right these days, 307 00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:05.799 which makes what would have been a trifle into an 308 00:17:05.839 --> 00:17:09.200 important statement, even a document of the final days of 309 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:12.039 the studio system. I should also mention that the series 310 00:17:12.119 --> 00:17:15.000 is very funny. This is a comedy, and they squeeze 311 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:18.240 the juice wherever they can, from cringing desperate attempts to 312 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:21.640 be thanked at award shows to an entire episode dedicated 313 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:24.559 to a woner, a shot in film typically that goes 314 00:17:24.599 --> 00:17:27.440 on for an inordinate amount of time, like I don't 315 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:30.359 know the opening of the player, and then they cleverly 316 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:34.240 made the entire episode a woner itself. That episode also 317 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:38.960 features Sarah Paully. I love Sarah Paully, just wanted to 318 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:41.480 put that out there. At the time of this recording, 319 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:45.200 we only have eight of the ten episodes run available, 320 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:47.759 but there hasn't been a misfire and it has been 321 00:17:47.799 --> 00:17:50.319 picked up for season two. If I have any criticism, 322 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:53.359 it's about the cameos. It's kind of the same problem 323 00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:55.319 that they had in The Player. By the way, the 324 00:17:55.359 --> 00:17:58.400 actual head of the studio in the Studio is played 325 00:17:58.400 --> 00:18:02.480 by Brian Cranston. His character is named Griffin Mill, which 326 00:18:02.519 --> 00:18:06.440 is Jim Robbins's character's name in the Player. Anyway, we 327 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:09.680 accept Rogan and Barnholdts as distinct characters, and then we 328 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:13.359 get a cavalcade of as themselves cameos Martin Scorsese, Ron 329 00:18:13.400 --> 00:18:17.240 Howard ice Cube, Adam Scott, Johnny Knoxville, Quinta Brunson, and 330 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:20.240 on and on and on. So when David Crumbholt shows 331 00:18:20.279 --> 00:18:23.039 up as an agent or Rebecca Hall as a surgeon, 332 00:18:23.480 --> 00:18:25.920 I know this is a quibble, but it's really jarring, 333 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:28.799 and I also know there's no solution for it. But anyway, 334 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:32.119 in the plus column, Continental has a backlot, so the 335 00:18:32.200 --> 00:18:34.319 series is filled to the brim with tons of walking 336 00:18:34.359 --> 00:18:37.119 around or golf carting around past the sites you always 337 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:39.960 want to see but you never actually get to on 338 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:43.720 a backlot. I'm talking about cowboys mingling with showgirls while 339 00:18:43.839 --> 00:18:47.720 camels are led past. In the background, all that dream 340 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:52.519 factory goodness. What it's not dark enough? Aren't things dark 341 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:55.200 enough these days? Guess not hit at hp. 342 00:18:58.200 --> 00:18:58.240 J. 343 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:01.000 It's rare film. 344 00:19:01.359 --> 00:19:05.759 Thank you hp Watch out for those corporate weasels. Rip's 345 00:19:05.759 --> 00:19:08.400 pick is the dark twin of the studio. This premiered 346 00:19:08.440 --> 00:19:11.119 back in nineteen ninety nine on Fox, lasting one season. 347 00:19:11.400 --> 00:19:14.759 It's called Action. It was created by Chris Thompson, who'd 348 00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:18.079 written on Laverne and Shirley and Bosom Buddies before escaping 349 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:20.680 the TV ghetto with Jumpin' Jack Flash and Back to 350 00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:24.000 the Beach and then back to the TV ghetto with 351 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:27.480 Larry Sanders Show and The Naked Truth before producing Action. 352 00:19:28.160 --> 00:19:30.880 That's the story of Peter Dragon, a Joel silver Like, 353 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:34.079 a mega producer of big budget action films whose recent 354 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:38.279 flick Slow Torture was one hundred and fifty million dollars bomb. 355 00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:40.759 The series follows Dragon as he tries to claw his 356 00:19:40.839 --> 00:19:42.359 way back to the top with the help of a 357 00:19:42.359 --> 00:19:45.839 former child star turned high priced call girl played by 358 00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:49.240 Ilianna Douglas. Of course it is oh and Peter Dragon 359 00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:52.160 is Jay Moore at his absolute best. I don't know 360 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:55.119 how to describe what that best is, but it's on display. Actually, 361 00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:58.200 you know what it is. He had this cocky swagger 362 00:19:58.200 --> 00:20:01.440 that seemed a bit unearned, but you still appreciated it 363 00:20:01.480 --> 00:20:05.880 for its exuberance. All of that works perfectly as Peter Dragon, 364 00:20:06.200 --> 00:20:09.039 that same kind of self importance that you're always wondering 365 00:20:09.079 --> 00:20:11.440 if they can actually back up, you know, the kind 366 00:20:11.480 --> 00:20:14.839 you see in well Joel Silver. By the way, Joel Silver, 367 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:19.039 executive producer on the show, This is a bitter show. 368 00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:22.319 I dare say it's a hostile show, and I'm shocked 369 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:25.240 it was on network television at the time. It strained 370 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:28.319 at conventions, but was hamstrung by them, and it probably 371 00:20:28.359 --> 00:20:31.160 should have been on HBO. You can't really build up 372 00:20:31.160 --> 00:20:34.839 any steam criticizing corporate bullshit in between commercials for soap. 373 00:20:34.920 --> 00:20:38.839 You dig a bitter irony. Considering HBO wanted the series, 374 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:41.279 but Fox offered a higher budget and the potential to 375 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:43.920 make the actual film being made in the series, So 376 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:47.240 Peter Dragon spends the entirety of season one attempting to 377 00:20:47.240 --> 00:20:50.319 get a movie made called Beverly Hill's Gun Club. At 378 00:20:50.359 --> 00:20:52.720 the end of season one, Fox would then air the 379 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:56.039 actual movie, Beverly Hills gun Club. Who could resist that? 380 00:20:57.240 --> 00:20:59.720 In the end, Fox would air only eight episodes of 381 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:03.000 the Sea before canceling it, which is a drag. It 382 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:06.039 would have flourished over on home box office, But then 383 00:21:06.759 --> 00:21:09.200 maybe that's for the best, because it would have kept 384 00:21:09.200 --> 00:21:12.519 its story editor in place and we'd be all the 385 00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:15.759 worse for it. Will Forte, one of the genuinely weirdest 386 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:18.400 writer performers to ever come out of Saturday Night Live, 387 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:21.000 was the story editor on Action and he wrote three 388 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:25.279 episodes of very funny episodes. Also funny is how all 389 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:28.079 three properties I've mentioned, The Player, the Studio, and now 390 00:21:28.119 --> 00:21:32.559 Action are all predicated on panic. These are frantic stories 391 00:21:32.599 --> 00:21:35.039 about people just trying to keep their heads above water, 392 00:21:36.039 --> 00:21:39.400 like we're all doing these days. I believe Action is 393 00:21:39.440 --> 00:21:41.160 on Prime if you want to check it out, it 394 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:43.960 might be on YouTube for free. I think it's a 395 00:21:43.960 --> 00:21:45.720 hell of a book. End of the Studio, both of 396 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:48.279 those books, by the way, sitting on a bookshelf called 397 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:51.079 the Player. Maybe you should just check out the Player. 398 00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:53.119 That's going to do it for us. Thank you for 399 00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:55.559 joining us once again. I've got to get out of here. 400 00:21:55.559 --> 00:21:58.039 I got to try and repair my e bikes back tire. 401 00:21:58.519 --> 00:22:02.160