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<v Speaker 6>Look at these videos coming out of places like Chicago.

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<v Speaker 6>the community on the ground. So it was basically a

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<v Speaker 6>warning to say, like, if you're asked to do something,

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<v Speaker 6>particularly against American citizens.

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<v Speaker 7>That voice, ladies and gentlemen was one of the people

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<v Speaker 7>that are being called the seditious six. Senator Elisa Slotkin

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<v Speaker 7>last Sunday on ABC's This Week suggestion that law enforcement

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<v Speaker 7>would begin shooting American citizens one of the reasons that

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<v Speaker 7>they released the orders. That has not happened. Instead, what

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<v Speaker 7>has happened is that law enforcement, the National Guard has

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<v Speaker 7>been attacked. Today this is both Andy's Rush Hour, fastest

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<v Speaker 7>hour in American media, and we start off sadly today.

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<v Speaker 7>Two of the National guardsmen that were shot this afternoon

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<v Speaker 7>to Western Virginia National Guard members shot today near the

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<v Speaker 7>White House have died, said West Virginia Governor Patrick Morrissey.

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<v Speaker 7>He confirmed their deaths in a social media post. There

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<v Speaker 7>is a suspect in custody who was also shot. Has

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<v Speaker 7>injuries that are not believed to be life threatening. A

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<v Speaker 7>source reports one National Guard member was shot in the head,

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<v Speaker 7>according to a person familiar with the details of the

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<v Speaker 7>incident who spoke to AP the Associated Press on condition

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<v Speaker 7>of anonymity. The President of the United States has released

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<v Speaker 7>a statement that the animal who shot the guardsmen will

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<v Speaker 7>pay as deep price. God bless our great National Guard

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<v Speaker 7>and all of our military and law enforcement. These are

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<v Speaker 7>truly great people, the president wrote. The National Guard have

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<v Speaker 7>been in Washington, d C. Since August, when Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 7>issued an emergency order that federalized the local police force

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<v Speaker 7>from the District of Columbia. The order expired, but the

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<v Speaker 7>troops have remained, and that has been to the consternation

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<v Speaker 7>of some Democrats. I want to be responsible and not

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<v Speaker 7>say things that are inflammatory. Despite the anger that many

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<v Speaker 7>of you and I and feeling of utter frustration at

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<v Speaker 7>the way that law enforcement in this country has been

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<v Speaker 7>treated by the Democrat Party. There are videos on social

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<v Speaker 7>media today of Saint Paul, Minnesota, near riot breaking out,

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<v Speaker 7>people standing in front of ice trucks. They had to

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<v Speaker 7>and protesters got angry with that. We have seen people

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<v Speaker 7>jailed now for threatening to kill ICE agents, threatening to

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<v Speaker 7>few months the mayor of Chicago urged people to quote

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<v Speaker 7>unquote protect their land and to make inflammatory statements that

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<v Speaker 7>It could be construed as to perhaps take matters into

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<v Speaker 7>their own hands. There are other ways to say it, actually,

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<v Speaker 7>So we don't know a lot of the details surrounding this.

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<v Speaker 7>There was one report and I did not confirm it

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<v Speaker 7>say it until I can confirm it that this was

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<v Speaker 7>an ambush. The National Guardsmen in involved shooting in DC

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<v Speaker 7>with an ambush attack. It's what I'm reading. I cannot

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<v Speaker 7>say for certainty that that was the case, but I'm

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<v Speaker 7>sure by the end of the day more details will emerge.

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<v Speaker 7>What we do know is this, the Democrat Party has

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<v Speaker 7>been relentless and the allies in the legacy mainstream media

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<v Speaker 7>have been relentless in portraying Ice and border patrol and

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<v Speaker 7>against good, when in fact they are the opposite. There

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<v Speaker 7>have been story after story. In fact, there are stories

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<v Speaker 7>today about how the nation, about how Ice is tearing

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<v Speaker 7>apart families, which is the common refrain unjustly, how people

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<v Speaker 7>that are innocent are being kidnapped. You've seen all of this,

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<v Speaker 7>you heard all of it. These are the things that

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<v Speaker 7>are now being shouted in the streets. For enforcing the law.

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<v Speaker 7>The same Democrats that have riled people up into fits

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<v Speaker 7>of anger are quiet when American citizens are subject to

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<v Speaker 7>law enforcement. They don't claim that people are being kidnapped

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<v Speaker 7>when police make an arrest of criminals and separate them

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<v Speaker 7>from their families. When people criminals are apprehended, none of

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<v Speaker 7>these same charge as a level. But because we're talking

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<v Speaker 7>about illegal immigration, for the most part, everything has risen.

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<v Speaker 7>The other issue that comes up, especially in Memphis, in

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<v Speaker 7>is without question evil because what they claim. The claim

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<v Speaker 7>is that when law enforcement goes into cities like Washington,

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<v Speaker 7>some level of safety, when they go into places like Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 7>when they go in places like Los Angeles, the Democrat

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<v Speaker 7>Party has made a point of saying this is racial

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<v Speaker 7>black and brown people. They never talk about the impact

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<v Speaker 7>that black and brown criminals have made in making the

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<v Speaker 7>black and brown people who live in these cities' lives

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<v Speaker 7>totally hell and miserable. Never is that DISCUSSI. They never

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<v Speaker 7>talk about the fact that black children can't play in

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<v Speaker 7>brown children in their own neighborhoods and have a normal childhood.

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<v Speaker 7>They never talk about the failures of big Democrat Party

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<v Speaker 7>institutions like the teachers' unions and their impacts on their

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<v Speaker 7>after generation in these black and brown communities. No, it's

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<v Speaker 7>just racist to trying to finally try and bring some

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<v Speaker 7>law some calm, some peace into these neighborhoods. James Golden

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<v Speaker 7>is thirdly pre Thanksgiving. Keep it right here, Do not

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<v Speaker 8>James Golden, known popularly as most Nerdly.

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<v Speaker 9>Here's how to respond to the stupid things that your

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<v Speaker 9>liberal family members say this Thanksgiving. We really shouldn't celebrate

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<v Speaker 9>a holiday rooted in colonial violence. Well, Thanksgiving isn't a

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<v Speaker 9>celebration of violence. It's a celebration of gratitude, which has

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<v Speaker 9>been twisted by activists who need outrage in order to

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<v Speaker 9>stay relevant. We're not going to rewrite American traditions because

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<v Speaker 9>a handful of chronically offended people are running out of

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<v Speaker 9>ways to play the victim. No human being is illegal.

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<v Speaker 9>We shouldn't even have ice.

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<v Speaker 7>It's cruel.

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<v Speaker 9>No, what's cruel is pretending that a country can survive

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<v Speaker 9>without enforcing its own laws. Every single nation on Earth

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<v Speaker 9>has borders and immigration rules. The US is no exception.

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<v Speaker 9>The cost of Thanksgiving dinner this year is so much

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<v Speaker 9>higher thanks to Trump you should probably fact check before

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<v Speaker 9>repeating whatever CNN fed you. Wells Fargo's own analysis shows

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<v Speaker 9>that the cost of a ten person Thanksgiving meal is

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<v Speaker 9>down like three percent from last year, and Walmart's numbers

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<v Speaker 9>back it up. So yeah, go ahead and thank President

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<v Speaker 9>Trump for this year's crisis. Well, I have nothing to

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<v Speaker 9>be thankful for this year, because women have fewer rights

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<v Speaker 9>now than they did a decade ago. Opportunity, education, and

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<v Speaker 9>economic freedom have never been higher for women in America.

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<v Speaker 9>Women aren't losing rights. You're just angry that the left

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<v Speaker 9>can't use abortion as a shield for every political argument anymore.

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<v Speaker 9>This is why we need socialism. I mean, I wish

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<v Speaker 9>that zo Ron Mamdani were mayor of my town. No,

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<v Speaker 9>you don't, Becky, I doubt that you could name your

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<v Speaker 9>current mayor, let alone three members of your city council.

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<v Speaker 9>Socialism destroys every place that it touches, without exception. It

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<v Speaker 9>doesn't create fairness, It creates equal misery. If you want

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<v Speaker 9>government control of everything so bad, then you are free

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<v Speaker 9>to move somewhere that has already tried it and it failed.

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<v Speaker 7>many records, including this one, Wore Edwin Star, Tears of

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<v Speaker 7>so many more. Bob Babbitt, who passed away into twelve

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<v Speaker 7>James Golin sternly with you here. Thank you, Princess Diana.

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<v Speaker 7>The CBS story says this. It is a CBS story

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<v Speaker 7>that federal officials have said DC National guardsmen shooting was

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<v Speaker 7>an ambush attack. Federal law enforcement sources say, and that

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<v Speaker 7>is from CBS. We will have to wait and see

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<v Speaker 7>more information, so we will will keep you updated as

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<v Speaker 7>we have more information there is. I mean, folks, the

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<v Speaker 7>rhetoric coming from Democrats has consistently from this administration ratcheted

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<v Speaker 7>things up. I'm not going to say that that's what

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<v Speaker 7>is responsible for today's ambush as it is being reported

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<v Speaker 7>of National guardsmen. Yet we will have more information. But

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<v Speaker 7>you heard Elizabeth Slockin in this Edition six claiming that

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<v Speaker 7>law enforcement was going to begin shooting American citizens. You

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<v Speaker 7>heard that. Play that again. Please Carlos, the one that

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<v Speaker 7>we opened up with, make sure that we have this right.

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<v Speaker 7>This was Sunday. This is what Elizabeth. I'm sorry not Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 7>Alisa slot Can, one of this Edition six, said on

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<v Speaker 6>Look at these videos coming out of places like Chicago.

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<v Speaker 6>It makes me incredibly nervous that we're about to see

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<v Speaker 6>people in law enforcement, people in uniform, military, get nervous,

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<v Speaker 6>very stressful situation for these law enforcement and for the

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<v Speaker 6>communities on the ground. Is basically a warning to say, like,

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<v Speaker 6>if you're asked to do something, particularly against American citizens.

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<v Speaker 7>We are about to see law enforcement and people in

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<v Speaker 7>uniform shoot American citizens. She'd made that claim. Today, two

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<v Speaker 7>Americans in uniform were shot dead, cut one Scott Jennings CNN.

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<v Speaker 5>The FBI is now seeking interviews with the Democratic lawmakers

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<v Speaker 5>who said to the military, if there is an illegal order,

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<v Speaker 5>don't follow it. Aren't so folks, in the military not

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<v Speaker 10>So this is an issue where obviously you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 10>point was clear. They're trying to program their political party

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<v Speaker 10>Every Republican that I know is outraged. The legalities of this,

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<v Speaker 10>here using them in this illegal order video, which is

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<v Speaker 10>obviously political. I think some people you know, and our

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<v Speaker 10>It's very disrespectful to treat the military this way.

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<v Speaker 7>It is also disrespectful to treat law enforcement the way

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<v Speaker 7>were taken from them. It is disgraceful. When we get back,

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<v Speaker 7>my friend's Thanksgiving weekend is upon us, and joining us

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<v Speaker 7>will be our very own historian, Dean Carrianis and we'll

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<v Speaker 7>explore Thanksgiving. Don't go Away.

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<v Speaker 3>The Rush Hour with James Golden entertaining and informative.

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<v Speaker 8>James Golden known popularly as both Nervely.

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<v Speaker 11>I hate being in my twenties I hate going to work.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't want a job. I don't want to work.

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<v Speaker 11>I hate people, I hate everything.

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<v Speaker 11>I just hate everything. I hate everyone. I hate everything,

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<v Speaker 11>and I hate everyone. And I don't want to do this.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, my seven year old, newly turned seven year

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<v Speaker 7>that cut, and he looked astounded. And I thought he

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<v Speaker 7>was astounded by the language. He wasn't. He said, she

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<v Speaker 7>hate God? And then he said God may punish her.

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<v Speaker 7>And I said, no, that's not what God is about.

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<v Speaker 7>God loves all of his creation. But the question does

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<v Speaker 7>she hate God? Was so profound after listening to that.

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<v Speaker 7>James Golden Snerdley with us the official Historian about Snarly's

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<v Speaker 7>Rush Hour and the Saturday Vibe. He is the head

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<v Speaker 7>hancho ofhistoryauthor dot com, one of my colleagues with the

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<v Speaker 7>he was web producer. He is a columnist with The

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<v Speaker 7>his work all over and an author. He's an amazing guy.

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<v Speaker 7>Historian Dean and writer and producer Dean carryanis is with us. Welcome, Dean,

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<v Speaker 7>how are you this afternoon?

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<v Speaker 12>I am good. Thanks for having me, James, and boy,

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<v Speaker 12>I hope that the response someday, but that woman can

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<v Speaker 12>be that she feels God's love and that God finds her.

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<v Speaker 12>I know sometimes people are uncomfortable with that, but that's

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<v Speaker 12>what it's all about. And that's said to hear somebody

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<v Speaker 12>lot of people on the right that mock each other

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<v Speaker 12>and not to mention people on the left. But that's

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<v Speaker 7>No, no, no, it's fine. I'm glad you did. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>it's profound. And then one reason I play those things

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<v Speaker 7>is so we can hear what people are thinking from

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<v Speaker 7>across the spectrum. And I think it is sad.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, and you think of a place like Canada where

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<v Speaker 12>they have that medical medical assistance in dying with that

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<v Speaker 12>cute little acronym made. Somebody like that can walk in

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<v Speaker 12>there and certainly won't be discouraged, but can end their life.

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<v Speaker 12>And you think, I know, you know this. We've been

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<v Speaker 12>day when I was eighteen, when I was twenty two,

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<v Speaker 12>a bad day or even a good day when you're

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<v Speaker 12>long into two of you, you've had medical challenges that

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<v Speaker 12>you've fought. We both watched what Rush went through. You

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<v Speaker 12>trade that that nothing is permanent. And you know, my

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<v Speaker 12>wife Kathy and my co author in the cookbook you

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<v Speaker 12>to me sometimes get get thee behind me, Satan. She

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<v Speaker 12>said it to me today. Her dad's a passed there

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<v Speaker 12>by the way, or was he passed away or gone home?

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<v Speaker 12>As they said about the Hutch the great Ken Hutcherson

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<v Speaker 12>Russia's friends, Oh Sehawk's great. But yeah, And I said

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<v Speaker 12>through her, you know I say that all the time

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<v Speaker 12>when I'm going through trouble. I try not to blame God,

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<v Speaker 12>I said, but I'm a little bit more profane to

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<v Speaker 12>the devil. I don't think you know you don't want

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<v Speaker 12>to curtet a prayer, but I say to him something

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<v Speaker 12>that starts with an F and something at wry with

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<v Speaker 12>you to the devil, because that's where the bad things

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<v Speaker 12>are coming from. And I think we're coming up on Thanksgiving,

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<v Speaker 12>it's the time to be thankful and remember that that's

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<v Speaker 12>who we're being thankful to. That's who the Pilgrims were

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<v Speaker 12>thankful too, not to the Native Americans, although there were

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<v Speaker 12>there was help there. They had a great relationship despite

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<v Speaker 12>a lot of the revisionist history. Things do change later,

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<v Speaker 12>as we know, not everyone gets along all the time.

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<v Speaker 12>But it's something that I think that leads into that

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<v Speaker 12>clip of just somebody literally professing their hate. It's a

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<v Speaker 12>terrible thing to hear somebody say. And I just hope

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<v Speaker 12>that she can find some help. And I think that

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<v Speaker 12>everyone out there, if of the prank, praise for her

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<v Speaker 12>to find somebody who you know, to just have a

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<v Speaker 12>revelation and not let everything get you so down, because

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<v Speaker 12>the older you get, there's more things to get you down.

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<v Speaker 12>Don't let it get you down.

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<v Speaker 7>Amen to that. And one of the things you mentioned

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<v Speaker 7>rush here, and one of the reasons that the reason

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<v Speaker 7>I asked you to come on. Is I remember the

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<v Speaker 7>first year I did this show, I read straight from

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<v Speaker 7>Russia's book, his story of the First of Thanksgiving, the

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<v Speaker 7>real Thanksgiving story. And you and I have talked about

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<v Speaker 7>it in subsequent years and I've done it, but today

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<v Speaker 7>I want you to just give everybody the synopsis. I think, Dean,

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<v Speaker 7>you know Rush thirty years. Trying to encapulate all the

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<v Speaker 7>great things that he did on the air is impossible.

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<v Speaker 7>But if there's one thing that I know he had,

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<v Speaker 7>and there were many, but one thing for sure I

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<v Speaker 7>know impacted and the impact still lives on, is that

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<v Speaker 7>he was the first national broadcaster to actually tell the

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<v Speaker 7>American people the true story of Thanksgiving. And now you

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<v Speaker 7>see that story being repeated in so many different places

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<v Speaker 7>by so many different people, not only broadcasters, but people

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<v Speaker 7>from a lot of different walks of life. And I

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<v Speaker 7>wanted to remember Rush doing that, to say how impactful

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<v Speaker 7>it is, and to have you as our official historian

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<v Speaker 7>this year instead of me walking people through that amazing

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<v Speaker 7>story that Rush lim Law told.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, I've written about some of this at atmysun dot com.

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<v Speaker 12>People can go find it and see the way that

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<v Speaker 12>just in my small way, you do it on the radio.

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<v Speaker 12>I try to have it in writing and to put

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<v Speaker 12>forth Russia's legacy. All the things be taught, and not

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<v Speaker 12>because it's anything in a partisan manner. Russia didn't tell

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<v Speaker 12>this story to own the Libs, as a lot of

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<v Speaker 12>people say, or to get clicks. He told this story

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<v Speaker 12>because four people like that young woman that you started

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<v Speaker 12>the segment with, who were so in despair or feel alone,

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<v Speaker 12>who think nobody's ever had it as bad, and we're

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<v Speaker 12>all prone to depression and feeling bad and thinking it's hard.

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<v Speaker 12>Little stories like the ones that Rush tells. They're the

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<v Speaker 12>ones he told of the Donner Party. How many times

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<v Speaker 12>did he mentioned Donner Party? And they had the resort

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<v Speaker 12>to cannibalism and the only thing they wrote in their

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<v Speaker 12>diary was it was a particularly cold winter. And the

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<v Speaker 12>story of the Mayflower is a story not of those

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<v Speaker 12>beautiful pictures that people arrive after the Mayflower Compact is signed,

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<v Speaker 12>after they arrived the second wave of migrants. Stirry call

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<v Speaker 12>them of immigrants, and they're shocks that these people are

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<v Speaker 12>almost naked, they're in rags, they're suffering from disease and death.

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<v Speaker 12>And my column last year at the New York Sun

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<v Speaker 12>And this is something I've learned from russ. Just look

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<v Speaker 12>at these people, they're not just names. You look at

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<v Speaker 12>William Bradford and what did he write in his diary?

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<v Speaker 12>And thank god he kept a diary, more details than

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<v Speaker 12>the daughter party. And they didn't have much more to

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<v Speaker 12>go back and you can read that column at ys

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<v Speaker 12>like I'm just plugging myself. It's just because I'm passionate

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<v Speaker 12>about that story. Another one was about capitalism paving the

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<v Speaker 12>way for them, and that's what this was a story of.

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<v Speaker 12>And not because like people that are advocates of communism,

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<v Speaker 12>this is the best system, is capitalism. And that's what

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<v Speaker 12>communism and socialism, is young men. That was the William

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<v Speaker 12>it an injustice that they should carry for the wives

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<v Speaker 12>and children of other men. So since they were getting

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<v Speaker 12>the same share anyway, they would just lounge around there,

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<v Speaker 12>which is considering there were no bars, no football, nothing

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<v Speaker 12>completely different. We're going to give everybody a little plot

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<v Speaker 12>that's what it made. That's what all those hands working.

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<v Speaker 12>Because you say, hey, if I get up out of

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<v Speaker 12>bed this morning, go plant some more crops to weed

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<v Speaker 12>my garden. I'm going to get more vegetables and maybe

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<v Speaker 12>I can sell some to Johnson across the street. He's

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<v Speaker 12>crazy for broccoli. I'll sell him some broccoli and he'll

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<v Speaker 12>trade me one of his cows or maybe his daughter.

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<v Speaker 12>This was the custom at the time. So that's the

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<v Speaker 12>story in a nutshell, and I think that maybe people

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<v Speaker 12>can hear me lighting up about it, or maybe when

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<v Speaker 12>they read my words about it, I hopefully bring it

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<v Speaker 12>to life, because it is such an amazing story. You

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<v Speaker 12>look at the pilgrims and you say, boy, the buckled

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<v Speaker 12>shoes they didn't have, and the hats by the way,

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<v Speaker 12>which they didn't have. You say, they it must have

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<v Speaker 12>been pretty easy. And then you are negative with them.

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<v Speaker 12>People think, well, they're the harbingers of genocide. They weren't

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<v Speaker 12>the first arrivals. For one thing. They did have very

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<v Speaker 12>good local relations with the native people. But it reminds

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<v Speaker 12>you that they were just like us. They had times

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<v Speaker 12>in the belly of that ship where it breaks apart,

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<v Speaker 12>it cracks the main beam in it, and they thought,

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<v Speaker 12>this is it. It's over. We're dead. I hate this

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<v Speaker 12>and don't think that even though they were religious pilgrims,

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<v Speaker 12>they didn't cry out to God and say, what's up?

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<v Speaker 12>We're going on this marble trip in this ship that

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<v Speaker 12>was never meant to go to sea, just so we

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<v Speaker 12>could praise your name and worship the way that we

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<v Speaker 12>feel called to that you would want, where are you

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<v Speaker 12>helping us? God? This really stinks. But they didn't lose

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<v Speaker 12>that faith, and they still had learning to do when

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<v Speaker 12>they got here, and they evolved to use the popular word.

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<v Speaker 12>And I think when we condemn people when we aren't

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<v Speaker 12>thankful enough, we don't work on ourselves. We forg yet

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<v Speaker 12>that we all have that capacity. We may say or

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<v Speaker 12>do or believe something today that we say the next day, Gods,

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<v Speaker 12>I wish I hadn't said, done, or believe that you

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<v Speaker 12>could kind of repudiate it. And that's the human story.

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<v Speaker 12>That's the story of thanksgiving, and that's what they give

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<v Speaker 12>thanks for, is that after all of those trials and tribulations,

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<v Speaker 12>and there were so many of them, all that death,

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<v Speaker 12>the starving, the scurvy, the everything was wet, The clothes

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<v Speaker 12>were wet all the time. Forget about having a bathroom,

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<v Speaker 12>forget about aldo deck. There was no Julie up there

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<v Speaker 12>from love boat or go for your purser. It was

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<v Speaker 12>a hard, hard trip. They were shipped not like cattle,

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<v Speaker 12>but with the cattle and pigs and sheep. They had

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<v Speaker 12>a little less than the size of a grave plot

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<v Speaker 12>there for each passenger. There's no privacy at all. They

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<v Speaker 12>went through all of that, And I think that that's

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<v Speaker 12>why I love history, That's why I like to look back.

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<v Speaker 12>It reminds me if I'm a little bit upset that

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<v Speaker 12>my Wi Fi goes down, if I have trials and tribulations,

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<v Speaker 12>I don't like who the president is, I don't want

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<v Speaker 12>that to affect me. I'm thankful that I live in

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<v Speaker 12>this time. I don't have to get on a rickety ship.

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<v Speaker 12>I have liberty and freedom in America, and I have that,

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<v Speaker 12>and I have all that plenty, by the way, because

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<v Speaker 12>of what the Pilgrims learned and wrote down, and just

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<v Speaker 12>for the sake of telling the story accurately, I'm really

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<v Speaker 12>appreciative that you keep the true story of Thanksgiving alive

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<v Speaker 12>because it's not to give a bias like I know this.

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<v Speaker 12>This current ken Burns documentary is causing a lot of

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<v Speaker 12>people to complain. And you know, I didn't like his

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<v Speaker 12>last one because guess what he wrote the Freedman out

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<v Speaker 12>of the story about Gettysburg. That probably wasn't his last.

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<v Speaker 12>But in order for him to tell the story of

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<v Speaker 12>Gettysburg and all this reconciliation and the handshakes, what did

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<v Speaker 12>he have to do? He had to ignore the plight

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<v Speaker 12>of black Americans at the hands of Jim Crow and

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<v Speaker 12>a lot of those well ken Burns.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't even want to get into the whole ken

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<v Speaker 7>Burns things. I just wanted to because that's a whole

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<v Speaker 7>discussion that you, believe me, one day I can't wait

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<v Speaker 7>to have, especially about some of the other documentaries that

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<v Speaker 7>have left people out that didn't make for the good story.

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<v Speaker 7>But this story of thanksgiving that Rush brought out, I

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<v Speaker 7>think is so important and I wish that it became

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<v Speaker 7>the institutional story that is taught in schools. I know

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<v Speaker 7>some schools have adopted it because it is factual. It

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<v Speaker 7>is based on the history of what actually happened. It's

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<v Speaker 7>not the feel good stories. The Pilgrims failed, the Indian

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<v Speaker 7>saves them, and they were so thankful to the Indians

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<v Speaker 7>they sat down for a meal with them. That's not

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<v Speaker 7>what happened here. But at any rate, Dean, it is

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<v Speaker 7>a remarkable story, and I thank you for spending the

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<v Speaker 7>time with us to share those memories of it. Where

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<v Speaker 7>again can people find your Dean.

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<v Speaker 12>They can find me at historyauthor dot com, my columns

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<v Speaker 12>at nysun dot com most frequently, and you can find

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<v Speaker 12>me on X that history Dean, because I'm not going

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<v Speaker 12>to make anyone spell Carrie anis.

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<v Speaker 7>Dean, thank you so much for joining us. I just

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<v Speaker 7>want to again give thanks for our time that we

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<v Speaker 7>spent with Rush. It was monumental and all of us

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<v Speaker 7>in the Rush alumni will never forget the times that

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<v Speaker 7>we spent there, the times that we spent with each

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<v Speaker 7>other and it and the good that came out that

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<v Speaker 7>is still living through that experience of being with the

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<v Speaker 7>great Rush Limbaugh.

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<v Speaker 12>Amen to that, I will say, And also thanks for

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<v Speaker 12>the audience all the people we still hear from who

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<v Speaker 12>enabled us to have the greatest jobs in the world.

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<v Speaker 12>We are thankful to all of you. We really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 7>Amen to that. Dean Boom. James Golden Snartly, thank you, Dean.

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<v Speaker 7>Jancarrianisstoryauthor dot com our official historian here at both Newley's

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<v Speaker 7>Rush Hour. James Golden Snurdly pre Thanksgiving. Keep it right here,

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<v Speaker 7>do not go away.

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<v Speaker 2>Rush.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the Rush Hour with James Golden. The Rush

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<v Speaker 3>Hour with James Golden, entertaining and informative.

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<v Speaker 4>On the Red Apple podcast network.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the Rush Hour with James Golden. Now your's James Golden,

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<v Speaker 3>breaking news.

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<v Speaker 7>Ladies and gentlemen. We have with us Red Apple Media

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<v Speaker 7>News director James Flippin with more on the story of

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<v Speaker 7>the two National guards men. We're shot this afternoon. Good afternoon, James, Hey.

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<v Speaker 8>Good afternoon.

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<v Speaker 12>Bo.

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<v Speaker 7>So yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>In essence, this is a shooting that happened in downtown

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<v Speaker 8>d C at the corner of seventeenth and Iye Street

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<v Speaker 8>near Farragut Square in the nation's capital. The White House

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<v Speaker 8>briefly went on lockdown. But President Trump, we know, is

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<v Speaker 8>in Florida. Vice President j d Vance is not in

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<v Speaker 8>the capital either.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 8>The twist within the last hour or so bo was

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<v Speaker 8>that West Virginia Governor Pat Morrissey came out and said,

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<v Speaker 8>sadly he can confirm that these National Guard members who

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<v Speaker 8>are from West Virginia had died. Since then, that statement

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<v Speaker 8>was actually retracted by the governor who said, we have

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<v Speaker 8>received conflicting reports. We just had about a half hour

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<v Speaker 8>press conference from Washington, d C officials, including Mayor Muriel

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<v Speaker 8>Bowser and also FBI Director Cash Bettel was there saying

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<v Speaker 8>right now, both National Guard members are being treated in

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<v Speaker 8>the hospital in critical condition, so the initial report that

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<v Speaker 8>they had died not true as of this time. The

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<v Speaker 8>Mayor of d C, Muriel Bowser, saying this was a

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<v Speaker 8>targeted shooting. We've seen photos from overhead cameras, maybe people

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<v Speaker 8>up in office towers taking photos of the scene. A

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<v Speaker 8>suspect who was taken into custody, strapped to a gurney

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<v Speaker 8>while naked with a long black beard. But we don't

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<v Speaker 8>know anything about the motive other than the fact that

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<v Speaker 8>police and the Mayor of DC have said this was

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<v Speaker 8>a targeted shooting. I also heard one of the cops

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<v Speaker 8>talking about the shooter coming around the corner and opening

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<v Speaker 8>fire at the National Guard members who were apparently armed,

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<v Speaker 8>and fire was returned. The suspect in this case was wounded.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's the latest that we know. In essence. The

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<v Speaker 8>big headline bow was Patrick Morrissey, the governor of West Virginia,

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<v Speaker 8>said that the two Guard members had died as of now.

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<v Speaker 8>We're actually hearing they're still being treated at the hospital

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<v Speaker 8>in DC.

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<v Speaker 7>That is a heck of a great story so far

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<v Speaker 7>for those people praying and hoping that somehow the worst

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<v Speaker 7>has not happened. This is just great news hopefully, And

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<v Speaker 7>we don't know, of course what's going to happen. Being

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<v Speaker 7>shot in the head, of course is what we heard.

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<v Speaker 7>At least one member was shot in the head, so

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<v Speaker 7>we don't know what how it has to be a

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<v Speaker 7>serious injury. But hopefully then this at least provides a

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<v Speaker 7>ray of hope.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, hoping for a Thanksgiving miracle.

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<v Speaker 7>Bo, Thank you, James Flipping, Thank you for coming on

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<v Speaker 7>and telling us that news got it f thank you.

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<v Speaker 7>There are prayers up already. Please God give us a miracle. Huh,

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<v Speaker 7>we gotta go. I'm off tomorrow, folks. May God bless

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<v Speaker 7>protect each and every single one of you, your families,

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<v Speaker 7>your loved ones, love and gratitude for your being here

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<v Speaker 7>with me, allowing me to be with you, God willing,

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<v Speaker 7>I will be back Friday, happy Thanksgiving and praying for

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<v Speaker 7>our National guards men and all of our troops in

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<v Speaker 7>law enforcement and Harm's way. God bless you.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for listening to Bo Stirdley's rush Hour. You can

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<v Speaker 1>What the heck is going on here
