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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Bluin Sider. Dick Gabriel with you

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<v Speaker 1>on a Wednesday edition of our program. Much to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>tonight both basketball and football, a little baseball as well,

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<v Speaker 1>but coming up tonight at the bottom of the hour,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Fisher of the Cat's Pause part of the two

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<v Speaker 1>four seven Network. We'll talk about UK schedule basketball that

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<v Speaker 1>is basketball recruiting, and we'll talk some football recruiting with Chris.

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<v Speaker 1>And in our number two, Sean Woods, the unforgettable guard,

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<v Speaker 1>joined us every Wednesday, so naturally we'll talk basketball with Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll also talk football with the former UK point

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<v Speaker 1>guard and Western Burea chief Gary Moore with us. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll preview the college football and pro football season with

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<v Speaker 1>Gary coming up in our number two. Ten days until

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky plays football against Southern Miss. Now there is college

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<v Speaker 1>football this week, some low profile games leading up to

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<v Speaker 1>Saturdays season opener. Officially seems like this is the one

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<v Speaker 1>everybody talks about, with Florida State playing in Dublin, Ireland

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<v Speaker 1>against Georgia Tech. Florida State expected to be a real contender,

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia Tech is not. I heard some talking heads going

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<v Speaker 1>over this game and one of them said, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a great game. It probably won't, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be great because it's going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of officially the college football season ten days away.

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<v Speaker 1>And on Corey Price's countdown on Twitter. Corey Course is

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<v Speaker 1>our statistician on the UK Sports Network for football. A

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<v Speaker 1>picture of Moe Williams number ten and he is playing

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<v Speaker 1>against South Carolina and it looks to be because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a road game, perhaps the game where he set the

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<v Speaker 1>single game record for rushing yards forty carries, two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and ninety nine yards, four touchdowns, but it was a

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<v Speaker 1>close game. Now Kentucky wonted thirty five to thirty. The picture,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like is being played in decent weather. But

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<v Speaker 1>if it is the same game, the heavens opened I

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<v Speaker 1>think in the second quarter, if memory serves yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>was there on the sideline and it absolutely poured down.

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<v Speaker 1>Rain manager or equipment manager, Tom Kalanowski came to my

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<v Speaker 1>rescue and handed me a rain suit, and later on

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<v Speaker 1>I went to give it back. He goes, keep it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're getting new ones next year, which they did. I

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<v Speaker 1>still got it, but he saved me. But because it

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<v Speaker 1>was an official UK rain suit. I was able to

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<v Speaker 1>stand at the fifty yard line among the coaches in

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<v Speaker 1>the coaches box, and nobody challenged me. Well, the security

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<v Speaker 1>guys had fled. They you know, they didn't care, and

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<v Speaker 1>nobody on the UK sideline had any interest because it

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<v Speaker 1>was raining so hard. But it was a big game,

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<v Speaker 1>which Kentucky, as I said, ended up winning thanks to Moe.

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<v Speaker 1>But four hundred and twenty nine all purpose yards two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and ninety nine on the ground alone. It broke

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<v Speaker 1>her show records mark at the time of two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and nineteen yards set in nineteen eighty two hundred nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>rushing yards. And the reason Moe's number was where it

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<v Speaker 1>was because one of his biggest plays was would look

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<v Speaker 1>like a swing pass, and I saw this when it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>He was behind the quarterback when he caught the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>which immediately makes it a run play. So they changed

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<v Speaker 1>it from a reception to a run play, and the

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<v Speaker 1>officials called it immediately. There's a signal they put up

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<v Speaker 1>that signifies it to run, notw of pass. So they

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<v Speaker 1>added that to Moe's rushing total and he had a

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<v Speaker 1>phenomenal game. Wildcats put up a total of four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and forty seven yards that day. I'm not sure who

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<v Speaker 1>got him, but there were eleven other rushing yards and

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<v Speaker 1>Mo had two hundred ninety nine of them. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I took special notice of Corey's photo that he

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<v Speaker 1>included today. Ten days away, Moe Williams number ten. Before

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<v Speaker 1>we get back to football, real quickly, just looking at

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's basketball schedule, you guys have been discussing it on

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<v Speaker 1>social media talking note. Not about the Duke game on

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<v Speaker 1>November twelfth, not about the Louisville game on December fourteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>no subject of discussion. February one, Arkansas comes to Rapperena.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who they had coached now, and it reminds

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<v Speaker 1>me of when Patino came back. And much will be

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<v Speaker 1>written prior to this game about that game. And remember,

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<v Speaker 1>now Caliperry's not going to do this, but Patino crossed

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<v Speaker 1>up the Kentucky fans. They kept their eyes trained on

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<v Speaker 1>the little tunnel area where the opposing team was coming out,

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<v Speaker 1>and all the players came out that way. They kept

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for Patino so they can unleash their torrent of booze.

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<v Speaker 1>Betino came out at the other end. He came out

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<v Speaker 1>at the Kentucky end, and later on he tried to

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<v Speaker 1>cover it by saying, I got confused. I was just

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<v Speaker 1>so used to coming out that way. No, and he

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<v Speaker 1>kind of had a twinkle in his eye when he

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<v Speaker 1>said it. I gave him full credit for somewhat diffusing.

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<v Speaker 1>He still got booed, but not nearly as bad because

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<v Speaker 1>people didn't notice at first. Then it's all of a sudden, Oh, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there he is, and so it wasn't that torrential downpour

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<v Speaker 1>of booze. I think we'll hear some of that when

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<v Speaker 1>Caliperi comes out. But I also think people will applaud

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<v Speaker 1>him because, look, he did great things here. It just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fizzled out at the end. But when he

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<v Speaker 1>got here. Do you remember what it was like when

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<v Speaker 1>he got here and what he did right away? You

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<v Speaker 1>need to remember that. So I think that's the way

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<v Speaker 1>things will play out all right. Back to football, USA

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<v Speaker 1>Today has ranked every team in D one football from

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<v Speaker 1>top two one thirty four. Kent State, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>is rated at the very bottom. Talk about low expectations,

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<v Speaker 1>and naturally, Georgia ranked number one, just ahead of Ohio State,

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<v Speaker 1>Texas Oregon and Alabama. Look for the Wildcats. You will

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<v Speaker 1>find them at number thirty nine. I think Kentucky underappreciated

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<v Speaker 1>right now because of the mystery with a new starting

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback and a new offensive coordinator. So that's okay, play

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<v Speaker 1>with a chip on your shoulder, sneak up on people.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine. But it's weird to see Kansas rated ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of Kentucky, and really oddly right now, Nebraska, which has

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<v Speaker 1>been really mediocre of late, ranked ahead of Kentucky. They're

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four to twenty five Kansas Nebraska. But Louisville getting

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of preseason love. Jeff Brom's team is ranked

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<v Speaker 1>number eighteen. They got a mystery quarterback, they got a

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<v Speaker 1>guy coming into his seventh year starting a quarterback. So

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<v Speaker 1>none of it means anything right now, but it'll fire

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<v Speaker 1>up the players. But you think about this. Georgia on

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<v Speaker 1>the UK schedule, Texas number three on the UK schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>ole Miss number ten on the Kentucky schedule, Tennessee fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Louisville eighteen. Man, it's tough, but welcome to the SEC.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of rankings, Tom Brady has ranked his top qbs

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. Patrick Mahomes naturally number one, multiple Super Bowls,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen of the Bills, number two, Lamar Jackson number three,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow number four, and you know those fifth Aaron Rodgers,

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<v Speaker 1>which tells me two things. Number one, Brady's got respect

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<v Speaker 1>for Rogers and high expectations. But number two, other than

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers, who do you rank there? There's a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a drop off I think from those top five

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<v Speaker 1>QB spots to the rest of the NFL quarterbacks. Before

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<v Speaker 1>we hit the break, a little bit of baseball for you.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is kind of funny. This came from the

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<v Speaker 1>Giants broadcast last night of the San Francisco VERSUS Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>White Sox game, and the White Sox catcher Cory Lee

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<v Speaker 1>took a foul ball off a spot where you just

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to take a foul ball, even though he's

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<v Speaker 1>got protection there. Ouch, we're talking about a major league

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<v Speaker 1>fastball that's fouled off. And Kruco took exception as a

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<v Speaker 1>former catcher of some things that you hear from the

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<v Speaker 1>fans in a situation like.

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<v Speaker 2>This, Oh, Cory Lee, the catcher vidys of time.

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<v Speaker 1>You know one thing, I was a catcher.

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<v Speaker 2>And there are certain times you get hit and you

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<v Speaker 2>know somebody in the stands will yell out walk it off,

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<v Speaker 2>and you just want to go up there and bunch

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<v Speaker 2>it right in the forehead. Yeah, certain things you can't

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<v Speaker 2>walk off, and that was one of them. Mike Dolinsky's

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<v Speaker 2>not helping him out either by telling him they'll jump

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<v Speaker 2>up and down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I don't who came up with that.

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<v Speaker 2>That didn't work either.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's oh and two.

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<v Speaker 1>He is deed time talk about six days. Six days

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<v Speaker 1>is right. We'll talk more UK football next six thirty

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<v Speaker 1>wlap Welcome back to the Big Blue and Sider. Coming

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<v Speaker 1>up in a few minutes Chris Fisher of the Cat's

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<v Speaker 1>Pause part of the two four seven Network. He'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky basketball recruiting, but we'll also talk football with Chris.

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<v Speaker 1>Same deal with Sean Woods, our unforgettable guard joins us

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<v Speaker 1>every Wednesday. He'll be with us in hour number two.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll talk basketball and football. Haven't had a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>talk much football as Sean, but he was a three

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<v Speaker 1>sport guy in high school, so we will have a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to find out what he thinks. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>now we're number two as well. Our West end Bureau

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<v Speaker 1>chief Gary Moore, but Kentucky football the matter at hand

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<v Speaker 1>as they prepare to the Wildcats for their upcoming season

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<v Speaker 1>opener with a new offensive coordinator, Bush ham Dan, who

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<v Speaker 1>spoke with us recently and told the media about just

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<v Speaker 1>right about now is when the Wildcats are basically cleaning

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<v Speaker 1>up their act, taking care of details, getting ready for

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<v Speaker 1>situations in ball games, and cutting down on every mistake

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<v Speaker 1>they can head off.

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<v Speaker 4>It's never easy right to take the anxiety of week

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<v Speaker 4>one when the situations actually occur. But for us, it

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<v Speaker 4>always is going to come down to two minute, end

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<v Speaker 4>of half, end of game, four minute scenarios, last plays.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, certain things with the clocks, so there's just

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<v Speaker 4>so many things. It's almost like a hidden hidden plays

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<v Speaker 4>that it's could come up at any point about fifteen

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<v Speaker 4>to twenty of them, and we got to do them

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<v Speaker 4>as much as possible so the guys can go execute them.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you can't work on those things every day, but

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<v Speaker 1>you have to put in some work obviously and just

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<v Speaker 1>be ready, as he said, or whatever comes up in

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<v Speaker 1>whatever game you're playing, whether it's a conference game or

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<v Speaker 1>your non conference season opener, which is of course Sutthern

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<v Speaker 1>miss a good team. We asked him a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about players who might be flying a little bit under

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<v Speaker 1>the radar, and he went immediately to Fred Ferrier, a

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver, and also Anthony Brown Stevens who went by

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<v Speaker 1>AB but now goes by ABS. But evidently those are

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<v Speaker 1>two guys, despite the fact that they're behind Barrion Brown

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<v Speaker 1>and Dante Key, those are guys we need to look for.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, Yeah, both those guys have done a tremendous job.

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<v Speaker 4>They really have. Fred's probably been one of our most

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<v Speaker 4>consistent wide receivers throughout camp. You know, runs precise routes,

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<v Speaker 4>makes plays on the ball. It's tough on the perimeter.

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<v Speaker 4>We're surely fortunate to have him. You know, Anthony Brown's

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<v Speaker 4>one of the best ball in hand guys we have.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's got electricity on the outside carrying the football.

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<v Speaker 4>So again, we just we're gonna use a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Barrian Brown made it a point when he was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Fred Ferrier, and Abs said the same thing. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a very quiet guy, doesn't brag much, doesn't talk much,

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<v Speaker 1>but lets his action speak, and yet he is talented

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<v Speaker 1>enough to do that on a consistent basis. So watch

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<v Speaker 1>for Ferrier, watch for Abs making plays this year from

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<v Speaker 1>the wide receiver room. We all know that Chip Train

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<v Speaker 1>hims out with a broken hand. He won't play in

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<v Speaker 4>If it was possible to be the video game and

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<v Speaker 4>everybody take off injuries, that would be awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not our world.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's contingency plans. Obviously, when guys go down. It's

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<v Speaker 1>So you I talked about this a little bit yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>about the young guys who are behind Demi, Seymour, Karnbay,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're talented, obviously, unproven, untested, but there's nobody else

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<v Speaker 1>right now of Chris Rodriguez or Benny Snell or Ray Davis.

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<v Speaker 1>But all that does is make you appreciate even more

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<v Speaker 1>and produce immediately. I mean, Benny didn't start every game

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<v Speaker 1>as a freshman. You know, they had Jojo, they had

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<v Speaker 1>Boom Boom Williams, but Benny was a power guy from

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<v Speaker 1>the day he got here and got even better. And

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<v Speaker 1>Rodriguez played behind Benny and then took step right in,

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<v Speaker 1>took over for him. We weren't sure about Ray Davis,

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<v Speaker 1>but for all of his versatility, he got power yards

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<v Speaker 1>when they needed him. So the question is, without train them,

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<v Speaker 1>can Kentucky get the first down when it's a tough

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<v Speaker 1>third and one, third and two, or in the red

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<v Speaker 1>zone get into the end zone. So that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a big question right now. One of the bigger

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<v Speaker 1>Every coach wants that. Mark Souops was talking about that

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<v Speaker 1>after the scrimmage on Saturday and that's why he scrimmaged

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<v Speaker 1>to clean up any possibility of a pre snap penalty

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<v Speaker 1>and hamed and talked about how vital it is to

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think it's a great question. I think the

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<v Speaker 4>operational part is the number one thing. You know, we

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<v Speaker 4>always tell our guys all the time. Before you can,

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<v Speaker 4>how not to lose them. And I think in those

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<v Speaker 4>Week one opportunities again with the anxiety up, they haven't

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<v Speaker 4>been in front of you know, seventy thousand people. It's

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<v Speaker 4>the operational stuff. Making sure the signals from the snap

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<v Speaker 1>And and that's it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's the uh, you know, win the pre snap

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<v Speaker 4>for us. Everything we're trying to get done in the

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of different things. And then certainly making the

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when we talk about baseball, it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>we always talk about dominating the routine play. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the basic ground ball it's hit to the middle indfielder

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, just the routine throw across the diamond,

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. But Honestly, you could make that case

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<v Speaker 1>in any sport. Now with football, there are few, if

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<v Speaker 1>any routine plays, But there is a routine, as Hamden

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<v Speaker 1>The way plays are brought in, formations, snap count, everything

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<v Speaker 1>a routine. So you could call it routine with the

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<v Speaker 1>reps for that reason over and over, and we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>here during camp and you've heard about it and read

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<v Speaker 1>about it. The helmet coms, you know, the radio and

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<v Speaker 1>the helmet for the quarterback, for the lead player on defense.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to get that down now. Stoops said they

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<v Speaker 1>went over to the stadium the other night simulated a

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<v Speaker 1>real game just with how they sent plays in, how

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<v Speaker 1>they sent substitutes in, getting special teams on and off

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<v Speaker 1>the field. I will never forget when Rich Brooks was here,

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky actually came down that they lost a game because

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<v Speaker 1>of a penalty on a special teams play because alignment

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<v Speaker 1>went in for the first team or the guy got hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>The first team guy got hurt, second team guy goes

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<v Speaker 1>in and then the next thing, you know, in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy was on defense. So there they held Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>held the other team. The other team lines up to

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<v Speaker 1>kick a field goal and Kentucky gets caught for too

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<v Speaker 1>many men on the field because the guy who had

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<v Speaker 1>subbed in on second or third down. He knew that

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<v Speaker 1>the guy he replaced was also on the special team,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was not. He had never played a down

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<v Speaker 1>of special teams in his life, so he decided, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I just need to be out here, and Kentucky get

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<v Speaker 1>called for twelve minute on the field. The opposing team,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of a field goal, took it in for a

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown and cast Kentucky the game. That's the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>mistake that causes coaches to pull their hair out. And

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<v Speaker 1>I remember Brooks saying that this kid had never played

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<v Speaker 1>a down of special teams in his life, but thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was obviously doing the right thing by staying out

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<v Speaker 1>on the field. That's why you go through pre snap routine,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. When we come back, Chris Fisher the Catspaws

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<v Speaker 1>joined us here on the Big Moon Sider six thirty wlap.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. We're chatting with Chris Fisher of the Cat's Pause.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a veteran to covering UK sports and sports

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<v Speaker 1>in general two for seven Sports, but basketball recruiting is

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<v Speaker 1>one of his specialties. Chris, how are you.

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I got to ask you. First off, Kentucky lands

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<v Speaker 1>Malachi Moreno, and I I know what, it's an important signing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's local, he's a big but given the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Mark Pope just landed his first UK recruit,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think, Chris, this was a had to have

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<v Speaker 1>him kind of signing, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think so. I think it was a big

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<v Speaker 5>first addition. It was a natural addition, you know, adding

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<v Speaker 5>an in state guy as the first commitment for twenty

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<v Speaker 5>twenty five, and with you know, things not looking too

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<v Speaker 5>bright for Jasper Johnson, I think all of that kind

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<v Speaker 5>of adds up to a must have for Mark Pope.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, he's a you know, a six foot eleven center,

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<v Speaker 5>really really talented, high upside that's from the state of Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 5>that plays the position that Mark Pope played, and so

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<v Speaker 5>I think there's kind of a natural synergy there. And

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<v Speaker 5>Mark Pope has made no about the importance of keeping

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<v Speaker 5>Kentucky guys at home. You know, obviously, Travis Perry signed

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<v Speaker 5>with Kentucky before Mark Pope came on. But Mark Pope

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<v Speaker 5>played a big part in, you know, keeping his commitment

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<v Speaker 5>and keeping him on board. And then he adds Trent

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<v Speaker 5>Noah in the spring as well, and so it was

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<v Speaker 5>a big commitment I think for to get Kentucky on

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<v Speaker 5>the board for twenty twenty five. It's still early. It's

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<v Speaker 5>only August. The early signing period is still months away.

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<v Speaker 5>But to get that first one out of the way

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<v Speaker 5>and to have it be a Kentucky guy, to have

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<v Speaker 5>it be a top twenty five prospect nationally, I think

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<v Speaker 5>it's a big deal for Mark Pope in Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm glad you brought up Trentoah because Travis was

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<v Speaker 1>going to come here, you know, with Calip Perry here,

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<v Speaker 1>I think whoever they had hired, Travis would have still come.

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<v Speaker 1>But Trentollah flipped on his commitment to South Carolina, which

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<v Speaker 1>is nothing to be scoffed at. But I also I

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<v Speaker 1>think christ and we'll get back to Malick in a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>I really believe Trendonoah maybe as much as Travis Perry

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<v Speaker 1>is going to play a vital role in Kentucky basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not this coming season. But I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>much of a chance you got to see either in person,

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<v Speaker 1>are on video trendoah play in the Sweet sixteen. But

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<v Speaker 1>this kid can play. And I think he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be important, don't you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? I think again, as fans and as media, we

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<v Speaker 5>need to rewire our brains when it comes to recruiting

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<v Speaker 5>and what success on the recruiting trail means at Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 5>The days of having four and five five star guys

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<v Speaker 5>and a single recruiting class are over. That's not going

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<v Speaker 5>to happen here. And that's not how Mark Pope wants

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<v Speaker 5>it to happen. He wants the third of his guys

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<v Speaker 5>coming from the high school ranks. He wants the third

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<v Speaker 5>returning players. He wants a third coming from the portal.

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<v Speaker 5>That's going to give Kentucky balance that it hasn't had

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<v Speaker 5>in fifteen years. And so you know, when you look

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<v Speaker 5>at these guys, you can no longer look at them

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<v Speaker 5>in terms of what they can offer you strictly as

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<v Speaker 5>a freshman, right, You have to look at them in

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<v Speaker 5>terms of what they're going to be able to contribute

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<v Speaker 5>over the course of three or four years. And I

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<v Speaker 5>think when you look at guys like Trent Noah, Travis Perry,

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<v Speaker 5>and even Malachai Morano, because we all know that big

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<v Speaker 5>guys develop a little bit more slowly than the smaller guys.

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<v Speaker 6>Do.

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<v Speaker 5>You have to look at them what in terms of

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<v Speaker 5>what they're going to bring to the table in three

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<v Speaker 5>or four years, and I think all three of those

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<v Speaker 5>guys are going to be very, very good college basketball

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<v Speaker 5>players before their careers at Kentucky are over and there

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<v Speaker 5>for so long I was I was jealous of schools

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<v Speaker 5>like North Carolina, Villanova, Kansas that you know, they may get,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, a top fifteen, top twenty guy sprinkled in

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<v Speaker 5>here and there, but for the most part, their recruiting

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<v Speaker 5>classes were made up of top thirty five to top

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<v Speaker 5>seventy five guys that probably weren't going to leave for

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<v Speaker 5>the NBA after one year, and they were going to

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<v Speaker 5>stick around for two and three years. And then by

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<v Speaker 5>the time they're done, you have a very nice, little

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<v Speaker 5>composite mixture of talent and experience, and those are the

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<v Speaker 5>guys that go on to be really, really good college players.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you think you know Hunter Dickinson, RJ. Davis,

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<v Speaker 5>on and on, and you look at the teams that

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<v Speaker 5>in recent years, and they were always it felt like

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<v Speaker 1>Talking to Chris Fisher the Catch Bass two four to

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<v Speaker 1>touch on football a little bit later on. But Chris

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<v Speaker 1>specializes in basketball and basketball recruiting. I'm glad you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>with Malachia Moreno, the fact that the bigs do develop

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<v Speaker 1>a little more deliberately, don't they. But if you got

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to see him play last year and you're

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<v Speaker 1>can see the skills are there, not just the size.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's one of today's big man, isn't he. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that he's gonna well in Pope's offense. He

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<v Speaker 1>might in high school. You don't see him step out

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<v Speaker 1>and shoot threes very often. But he's a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>can run the floor and he's got good feet. So

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<v Speaker 1>you got to like what you see, right.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's a lot to like about Malachim a Reno.

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<v Speaker 5>The building blocks are there, I think physically, he has

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of what you can't teach. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 5>has versatility and mobility at six foot eleven, he runs

419
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<v Speaker 5>the floor really well. He has soft touch around the rim.

420
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<v Speaker 5>He pursues rebound with two hands. He's a very dependable rebounder.

421
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<v Speaker 5>I thought I thought he needed a big spring in

422
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<v Speaker 5>summer on the travel circuit, on the Showcase circuit, going

423
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<v Speaker 5>against some of the best of the best. You know,

424
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<v Speaker 5>being from Kentucky, you have that reputation, well, well who

425
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<v Speaker 5>is he played again? But he went against the best

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<v Speaker 5>for the best of the spring and summer and absolutely

427
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<v Speaker 5>lived up to his reputation. Led his travel team to

428
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<v Speaker 5>the championship of the Adidas three SSB Travel Circuit, had

429
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<v Speaker 5>a really big playoff series there, and so I think

430
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<v Speaker 5>really proved that he's a top twenty five prospect and

431
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<v Speaker 5>one of the best big men in the twenty twenty

432
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<v Speaker 5>five class. And when you're talking about Mark Pope's offense,

433
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<v Speaker 5>especially the big guys, you have to be able to

434
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<v Speaker 5>be able to handle the ball out on the floor.

435
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<v Speaker 5>And that's not just put it on the deck. That

436
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<v Speaker 5>being able to facilitate the offense, being able to shoot

437
00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:41.960
<v Speaker 5>reliably from the perimeter, and then when you add to

438
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<v Speaker 5>that his soft hands around the basket, his size, his

439
00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:49.680
<v Speaker 5>mobility reminds me a little bit. I mean, Willie Caley

440
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<v Speaker 5>Sign was a freak. I think people forget that. They

441
00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:55.240
<v Speaker 5>know he played a wide receiver in high school, but

442
00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:59.680
<v Speaker 5>athletically he was really really gifted. I don't think Malachaim

443
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<v Speaker 5>Moran is quite on that level, but he moves really

444
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<v Speaker 5>really well for a big guy and can do a

445
00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:07.119
<v Speaker 5>lot of different things. So there's a lot for Mark

446
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<v Speaker 5>Pope to work with there over the next two or

447
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<v Speaker 5>three years.

448
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<v Speaker 1>You know what it's like when when a kid commits

449
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<v Speaker 1>to Kentucky, much less a Kentucky kid. So now this

450
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<v Speaker 1>coming high school season and probably through that period of

451
00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:24.880
<v Speaker 1>time you just described people I'm sure were going at

452
00:26:24.920 --> 00:26:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Malachi and are gonna go at him. They're gonna go

453
00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:29.359
<v Speaker 1>at him anyway, But now that he's, you know, a

454
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<v Speaker 1>Mark Pope guy, he's gonna have to learn to deal

455
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<v Speaker 1>with that. And I got to think that can only

456
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<v Speaker 1>help you.

457
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<v Speaker 5>Agree, Yeah, I think when you wear Kentucky across your

458
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<v Speaker 5>chest at any level before and after, you're gonna have

459
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<v Speaker 5>a target there. And so I think Malachi Mareno is

460
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<v Speaker 5>certainly going to have that in the state of Kentucky

461
00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:52.839
<v Speaker 5>this year. And I heard them talking about the Revenge

462
00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:57.240
<v Speaker 5>Tour coming up this season to try and finish what

463
00:26:57.359 --> 00:26:59.920
<v Speaker 5>they started, you know, making it to the Sweet sixty,

464
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<v Speaker 5>but you know, falling to Harlan and not quite making

465
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<v Speaker 5>it to the championship. And so I think he's going

466
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<v Speaker 5>to have his chip on the shoulder. I think that

467
00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:10.559
<v Speaker 5>team is going to have a chip on their shoulder

468
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<v Speaker 5>to finish what they started and and prove that they're

469
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<v Speaker 5>the best in the city.

470
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<v Speaker 1>Did you get to see him in the Sweet sixteen

471
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<v Speaker 1>or just a video?

472
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I saw the I saw the highlights yet.

473
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and what did you think when you saw him?

474
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean he I think he's exactly what I described.

475
00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:32.039
<v Speaker 5>I think he runs before really really well. You're not

476
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<v Speaker 5>gonna see him at the high school level step out

477
00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:37.319
<v Speaker 5>on the perimeter as much as maybe you'll see him

478
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<v Speaker 5>at the college level, because you know, when you're six

479
00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:42.319
<v Speaker 5>to eleven and you're playing against other high school kids,

480
00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:45.079
<v Speaker 5>it probably is in your best interest to stay close

481
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:48.839
<v Speaker 5>to the basket where you can dominate. But I think

482
00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:51.079
<v Speaker 5>his high school coach said that he's turned in something

483
00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:53.519
<v Speaker 5>like sixty seven double doubles in a little over one

484
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:56.680
<v Speaker 5>hundred high school games, and so, like I said, he's

485
00:27:56.720 --> 00:28:00.680
<v Speaker 5>a very reliable rebounder. He goes after every rebound, whether

486
00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:03.400
<v Speaker 5>it's in his area or outside of the area, and

487
00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:06.759
<v Speaker 5>can obviously dominate at high school level. But it was good,

488
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<v Speaker 5>I think, to see him prove it at the highest

489
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:12.759
<v Speaker 5>level in the spring and summer and the travel circuit

490
00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:15.920
<v Speaker 5>in the different showcase camps. Was one of the absolute

491
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:18.880
<v Speaker 5>best players on the floor at the NBA Top one

492
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:23.000
<v Speaker 5>hundred camp in Orlando, and Mark Pope made him a

493
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:26.599
<v Speaker 5>priority from day one. I mean, he flew around the

494
00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:29.559
<v Speaker 5>country to see him called in the first day, took

495
00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:32.440
<v Speaker 5>the job back in April, and now those two are

496
00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:33.440
<v Speaker 5>are coming together.

497
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<v Speaker 1>We're talking to Chris Fisher of the Cat's Pause part

498
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<v Speaker 1>of the two four to seven Network. We'll come back

499
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<v Speaker 1>and talk about Kentucky's basketball schedule, among other things on

500
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<v Speaker 1>the other side of the break here on a Big

501
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<v Speaker 1>Move Sider six thirty WLAP Welcome back. We're talking with

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Fisher, who specializes in basketball basketball recruiting for the

503
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<v Speaker 1>Cat's Pause part of the two four to seven network.

504
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<v Speaker 1>And the schedule is that We've already known most of

505
00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:00.920
<v Speaker 1>the opponents, Chris, I guess they just find the dates.

506
00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:06.519
<v Speaker 1>But it's a challenge, as every Kentucky schedule is. But

507
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:08.359
<v Speaker 1>I kind of like the way it lays out for

508
00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:11.759
<v Speaker 1>this team. Couple of the exhibitions, including the defending D

509
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:17.039
<v Speaker 1>two national champion Minnesota State man Cato, a couple of

510
00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:20.440
<v Speaker 1>regular season games before they head for Atlanta and Duke.

511
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:23.319
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna find out a lot about this team very quickly,

512
00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:23.720
<v Speaker 1>aren't we.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. I really like the decision by Mark Pope to

514
00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:33.440
<v Speaker 5>schedule two very highly competitive Division two teams in the

515
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:36.160
<v Speaker 5>exhibition season. You know, these aren't going to be teams

516
00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:39.839
<v Speaker 5>that Kentucky beats by fifty and sixty points, right you

517
00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:45.119
<v Speaker 5>mentioned Minnesota Mikato, the bigining Division two national champions, Kentucky

518
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.519
<v Speaker 5>Wesleyan is always competitive at the Division two level, and

519
00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:52.000
<v Speaker 5>so I think Kentucky will get an early test as

520
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:54.599
<v Speaker 5>far as the exhibition games are concerned. And they need

521
00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:57.079
<v Speaker 5>that because they open the season with Duke and the

522
00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:00.440
<v Speaker 5>Champions Classic. And you know, Cooper Flag has been receiving

523
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:04.319
<v Speaker 5>a ton of offseason hype, played really really well against

524
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:08.440
<v Speaker 5>the Olympic team in Las Vegas. And I'm sure that's

525
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:10.960
<v Speaker 5>going to build up his confidence more and more. Some

526
00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:12.960
<v Speaker 5>people are thinking he's going to be the premier player

527
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:16.279
<v Speaker 5>in college basketball as a freshman this season. So Kentucky's

528
00:30:16.279 --> 00:30:19.440
<v Speaker 5>going to be tested early and often. But you know,

529
00:30:19.519 --> 00:30:23.000
<v Speaker 5>I like some of the fresh matchups. I like Clemson

530
00:30:23.400 --> 00:30:28.400
<v Speaker 5>going to Clemson in the inaugural ac C SEC Challenge.

531
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<v Speaker 5>You have Kansas in Ohio State kind of looming there

532
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:37.240
<v Speaker 5>as well, so it'll be a fun non conference And

533
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:40.400
<v Speaker 5>that's even before we get into the SEC schedule, you know,

534
00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:44.920
<v Speaker 5>with obviously John Caliperry returning with the Reporena with Arkansas,

535
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:47.559
<v Speaker 5>and then you have you know, Kentucky playing at Texas

536
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:51.000
<v Speaker 5>at Oklahoma for the first time as members of the SEC.

537
00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:54.400
<v Speaker 5>So it's shaping up to be a really fun regular

538
00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:55.200
<v Speaker 5>season schedule.

539
00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and almost immediately after they get back from Clemson,

540
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:00.759
<v Speaker 1>they get on a plane go to Seattle for again Zaga,

541
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:02.359
<v Speaker 1>So that's going to be a heck of a trip.

542
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's interesting you mentioned Arkansas back in the day,

543
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:11.160
<v Speaker 1>well just last year. When schedules come out, UK fans

544
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:14.599
<v Speaker 1>immediately look to find the Louisville game, which is December fourteenth.

545
00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:18.000
<v Speaker 1>This year in Lexing, and but you're right, everybody instantly

546
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:21.200
<v Speaker 1>went to February one, and that's when Arkansas comes to

547
00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:23.960
<v Speaker 1>rupp Arena and the debate is already underway. You've probably

548
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:27.119
<v Speaker 1>seen it on social media. Do you boo or do

549
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:28.960
<v Speaker 1>you not boo? I think we all know the answer

550
00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:30.079
<v Speaker 1>to that question, don't we.

551
00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:38.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know it's too soon not to boost, right.

552
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:41.720
<v Speaker 5>I mean, if this was if this was four or

553
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:43.920
<v Speaker 5>five years down the road, or he was at a

554
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:47.880
<v Speaker 5>school that wasn't in the SEC, I could you know,

555
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:51.200
<v Speaker 5>I could maybe see that. But just the way things ended,

556
00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:54.759
<v Speaker 5>and you know John cal Perry kind of leaving of

557
00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:59.319
<v Speaker 5>his own polition for another league team, I just think,

558
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:03.480
<v Speaker 5>you know, you might hear a smattering of cheers or

559
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:06.359
<v Speaker 5>you know, silence or whatever, but I think for the

560
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:09.240
<v Speaker 5>most part, he's gonna hear booze when he walks into

561
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:10.960
<v Speaker 5>the refereena on February first.

562
00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll tell you another game I think could be

563
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:18.279
<v Speaker 1>vital if not in the SEC standings when you're jocking

564
00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:22.519
<v Speaker 1>for a bracket space. Is the Auburn game, which is

565
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:24.480
<v Speaker 1>March one. I mean it's toward the end of the

566
00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:27.799
<v Speaker 1>regular season. Chris and Auburn by all accounts, is going

567
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:28.640
<v Speaker 1>to be pretty strong.

568
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

569
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<v Speaker 5>I think I think the SEC will be as strong

570
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:38.200
<v Speaker 5>as it's ever been this season. I mean, when you

571
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:43.880
<v Speaker 5>talk about Kentucky, Auburn, Alabama, Arkansas, Tennessee, Texas, A and

572
00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:48.079
<v Speaker 5>M at the top of the conference, that's that's that's

573
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:52.440
<v Speaker 5>really really high Cotton, I think right there. And I

574
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:56.680
<v Speaker 5>think that's why you're seeing the varying preseason rankings and

575
00:32:56.799 --> 00:32:59.759
<v Speaker 5>kind of where they have Kentucky. Some have them, you know,

576
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:02.759
<v Speaker 5>or the top around two or three. I saw John

577
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:05.960
<v Speaker 5>Rothstein had them as low as nine. And you know

578
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:10.319
<v Speaker 5>we saw last season with Arkansas, when you bring in

579
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:13.759
<v Speaker 5>a ton of transfers, the talent may be there on paper,

580
00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:17.200
<v Speaker 5>but it may not end up coming together. Right. The

581
00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:21.640
<v Speaker 5>cake doesn't always rise when you put it in the

582
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:23.960
<v Speaker 5>oven for one reason or another. And I think you know,

583
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:27.319
<v Speaker 5>Arkansas was a preseason top fifteen last season and just

584
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:30.440
<v Speaker 5>never quite came together for them for a number of reasons.

585
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:32.640
<v Speaker 5>And so there's so many more X factors, I think,

586
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:36.680
<v Speaker 5>especially when you're bringing in twelve new scholarship players and

587
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:39.480
<v Speaker 5>how those guys are going to fit together and mesh

588
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:42.079
<v Speaker 5>together and compliment each other, But I do think this

589
00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:45.000
<v Speaker 5>is a roster that compliments each other really, really well.

590
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:46.839
<v Speaker 5>In the first season under.

591
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<v Speaker 1>Markfolk got a few minutes left with Chris Fisher of

592
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<v Speaker 1>the Cash Pause, you mentioned Jasper Johnson, and you didn't

593
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:56.880
<v Speaker 1>sound too optimistic. Everything I'm Hering's Alabama, I'm marrying Nil

594
00:33:57.079 --> 00:34:00.400
<v Speaker 1>is deeply in play. Obviously, they offer all these recruits,

595
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:04.440
<v Speaker 1>but Malachi Moreno made his pitch to Jasper, didn't he.

596
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:10.079
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm not sure how much sway Malachi Moreno's decision

597
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:14.559
<v Speaker 5>will have over Jasper Johnson. It certainly couldn't hurt having,

598
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:17.599
<v Speaker 5>you know, another elite talent there with you in that

599
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:21.719
<v Speaker 5>recruiting class. But to me, I think Kentucky's always been

600
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:24.440
<v Speaker 5>kind of playing catch up with Jasper Johnson, even under

601
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:27.840
<v Speaker 5>the previous administration. I'm not sure how hard they were

602
00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:31.000
<v Speaker 5>really recruiting him, even him, you know, being a UK legacy,

603
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:35.400
<v Speaker 5>with all the Kentucky connections that he has. I think

604
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:38.400
<v Speaker 5>in the beginning it was more North Carolina. I think

605
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:42.400
<v Speaker 5>he grew up a North Carolina fan, and then at

606
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:45.880
<v Speaker 5>you had Alabama come on late. I think I think

607
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:49.039
<v Speaker 5>he likes what he's seen at Alabama under NATO's in

608
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:51.320
<v Speaker 5>terms of the success and going to its first ever

609
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:54.800
<v Speaker 5>Final four last season, in developing some of the guards

610
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:59.159
<v Speaker 5>that they've had into lottery picks draft picks. And also

611
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<v Speaker 5>I just think Jazz kind of strikes me as a

612
00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:03.800
<v Speaker 5>kid that wants to do his own thing, you know.

613
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:07.519
<v Speaker 5>I think it goes both ways. Sometimes you want to

614
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:11.480
<v Speaker 5>follow in your family's footsteps, and sometimes you want to

615
00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:14.440
<v Speaker 5>do something completely different. And I think that's, you know,

616
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:17.559
<v Speaker 5>somewhat of the case that's going on here. I think

617
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:20.639
<v Speaker 5>Kentucky has put its best foot forward. I think now

618
00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:22.599
<v Speaker 5>that all three schools kind of have the lay of

619
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.760
<v Speaker 5>the land in his recruitment, they're kind of putting their

620
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:29.199
<v Speaker 5>best foot forward and making their best and final offers,

621
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:32.159
<v Speaker 5>if you will, coming here down the stretch. But in

622
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:35.119
<v Speaker 5>my mind, I still think Alabama is the favorite. I

623
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:38.960
<v Speaker 5>think Kentucky's maybe put themselves into contention, but it's still

624
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:42.480
<v Speaker 5>just hard to see with the way his recruitment is gone,

625
00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:45.760
<v Speaker 5>Kentucky being able to kind of flip this in the

626
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:47.280
<v Speaker 5>twenty fifth hours.

627
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:49.639
<v Speaker 1>A couple of minutes after Chris Fisher of the Cats Paws,

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<v Speaker 1>and as I mentioned, Chris specializes in basketball basketball recruiting.

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<v Speaker 1>But you posted a story recently on the website about

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that UK landed two players, not just one,

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<v Speaker 1>but two on the ESPN list of Top one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>in college football. Of course, Dean Walker is one of

633
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<v Speaker 1>the tops, but Maxwell Harston makes the list. I think

634
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<v Speaker 1>people might have expected Barry and Brown, and maybe he

635
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<v Speaker 1>belongs on there as a return man, but Harston really

636
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<v Speaker 1>rising at everybody's polls. But again, you're a recruiting specialist.

637
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<v Speaker 1>That says a heck of a lot about the recruiting

638
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<v Speaker 1>that Mark Stoops has done through the years. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you go back to a time, Chris as do I

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<v Speaker 1>when Kentucky putting one player on a top one hundred

641
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<v Speaker 1>list would have been cast for celebration, much less two.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, Yeah, I mean, it really is remarkable what Mark Stoops,

643
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<v Speaker 5>and you have to mention Vince Marrow in that conversation

644
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<v Speaker 5>as well, has been able to do it Kentucky. I

645
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<v Speaker 5>think it's something like fourteen straight top forty recruiting classes

646
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<v Speaker 5>at Kentucky, which is almost on I mean, it's unheard

647
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<v Speaker 5>of when you consider the position the program was in

648
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<v Speaker 5>when Mark Stoops took over, and I think especially when

649
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<v Speaker 5>you look at the last two years. You know, they

650
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<v Speaker 5>were flirting with or were inside the top twenty five

651
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<v Speaker 5>last year. I think they'll be flirting with another top

652
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:18.960
<v Speaker 5>twenty five class this year. The top end talent is there,

653
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<v Speaker 5>especially you know, for a program like Kentucky whose home

654
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<v Speaker 5>state doesn't produce the kind of talent that other SEC

655
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<v Speaker 5>schools rely on in their home base. It really is remarkable.

656
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<v Speaker 5>And you look at you know, Dean Walker and Maxwell Harrison.

657
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<v Speaker 5>I definitely think Barrian Brown for his ability every time

658
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<v Speaker 5>he touches the ball, whether it's as a returner or

659
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<v Speaker 5>a receiver on an end around or a jet sweep

660
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:49.760
<v Speaker 5>or whatever. His explosive playmaking ability certainly deserves to be

661
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<v Speaker 5>in that top one hundred. But it doesn't get much

662
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<v Speaker 5>better than Dion Walker. I think you could have placed

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<v Speaker 5>him even higher on the list than he was. And

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<v Speaker 5>then the turnover machine that Well Harston turned into last

665
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<v Speaker 5>season and what he projects this year. I think we

666
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<v Speaker 5>could see another situation like Drew Phillips where you know,

667
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<v Speaker 5>played himself into into a high draft pick. I think

668
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<v Speaker 5>we could see the same thing with Maxwell Heerson.

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<v Speaker 1>And to me, the most amazing thing about this is

670
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<v Speaker 1>both of these kids. Walker and Harson are from the

671
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<v Speaker 1>Detroit area. You know, you could see Ohio, you could

672
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:27.920
<v Speaker 1>see obviously Kentucky. But getting into Detroit and getting kids

673
00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:31.920
<v Speaker 1>away from Michigan right now is pretty amazing. Chris Fisher

674
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<v Speaker 1>of The Cats Pause is part of the two four

675
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<v Speaker 1>seven network. In fact, follow him on Twitter or ex

676
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:40.079
<v Speaker 1>at Chris Fisher two four seven. If you haven't subscribed

677
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:43.360
<v Speaker 1>to The Cat's Pause, you need to do so right away. Chris,

678
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:45.360
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much, and we'll see you down the road,

679
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:49.280
<v Speaker 1>all right, you bet coming up and I'm a number two.

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<v Speaker 1>More basketball talk with the unforgettable guard Sean Woods. We're

681
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<v Speaker 1>also going to talk football with Sean as well, and

682
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<v Speaker 1>our Weston EUROA chief Gary Moore here on the Big

683
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<v Speaker 1>Blooming Sider six point thirty lap. Welcome back to the

684
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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue and Sider are joining us now as he

685
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<v Speaker 1>does every Wednesday when our schedules align. On our celebrity hotline.

686
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<v Speaker 1>Is Sean Woods, the unforgettable guard and a veteran of

687
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<v Speaker 1>the college coaching Wars, taking a bit of a sabbatical

688
00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:44.960
<v Speaker 1>this year. But I do want to talk some football

689
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<v Speaker 1>with you first, though, I need to talk a little

690
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<v Speaker 1>bit about a couple things involving your beloved Wildcats. They

691
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<v Speaker 1>released their schedule, they finally got dates nailed down, and

692
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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting, Sean, were usually people right away look for

693
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<v Speaker 1>the SEC opener, They look for the Louisville game, But

694
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<v Speaker 1>the first thing everybody looked at is when does Arkansas

695
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<v Speaker 1>come to town? Which is February first. What do you

696
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<v Speaker 1>think is gonna happen when John Caliperi arrives.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I hope to think that, you know, people don't

698
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<v Speaker 6>get nasty and belligerent, because the man did come here

699
00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:28.239
<v Speaker 6>and he did a heck of a job, and he

700
00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:32.320
<v Speaker 6>won a national championship, and he made history and he

701
00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:35.679
<v Speaker 6>kept Kentucky relevant no matter you know, the outcome in

702
00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:38.119
<v Speaker 6>the last few years as far as getting to the

703
00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:42.079
<v Speaker 6>final fours and getting knocked off. You know, but the

704
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:46.320
<v Speaker 6>guy was a heck of a coach here, and I

705
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:49.079
<v Speaker 6>just hope that they treat him like they did coach Patino.

706
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<v Speaker 6>You know, he's from he's coaching Arkansas, so you know,

707
00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:57.199
<v Speaker 6>he's a nemesis now, but you know, still appreciate what

708
00:40:57.239 --> 00:41:01.960
<v Speaker 6>the guy did for the University of Kentucky, and you know,

709
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:04.480
<v Speaker 6>let's be professional about it. But it is gonna be

710
00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:07.679
<v Speaker 6>an anticipated game, no doubt about it. Not only is

711
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<v Speaker 6>Kentucky fans anticipating it to Arkansas fans anticipated pretty much

712
00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:16.519
<v Speaker 6>because John Pelfrey, I mean, John Telfrey, John Cali Perry's

713
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:20.960
<v Speaker 6>known all over the country. It's gonna be a national anticipated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And he's gonna have a good team, isn't he.

715
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:29.239
<v Speaker 6>Oh my goodness, This team he has an Arkansas may

716
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<v Speaker 6>be better than the team he had at Kentucky this

717
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:31.639
<v Speaker 6>past year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Oh no, I think there's no question about that.

719
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<v Speaker 1>But obviously the obvious question is use him?

720
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<v Speaker 6>How does he use them?

721
00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:40.960
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know.

722
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<v Speaker 6>This transfer reporter has has has has has made it

723
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:49.000
<v Speaker 6>to the point where everybody has to play. You know,

724
00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:50.679
<v Speaker 6>we're going back to the Little league now. That's the

725
00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:52.760
<v Speaker 6>reason why most of these kids are leaving, and also

726
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:56.679
<v Speaker 6>for money and so on and so forth. But you know,

727
00:41:56.800 --> 00:41:59.400
<v Speaker 6>he's gonna find a way, and you know, he's competitive

728
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:03.440
<v Speaker 6>and and I think because of what happened here, just

729
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:08.239
<v Speaker 6>coming from an experience standpoint, he's going to be ripped up.

730
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<v Speaker 6>And I think his juices are flowing again. And I think,

731
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<v Speaker 6>you know, leaving Kentucky was a wake up call for him.

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<v Speaker 6>From a professional standpoint, you know, sometimes you get kind

733
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:22.119
<v Speaker 6>of complacent. You know, you're still coaching at Kentucky. You're

734
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:24.679
<v Speaker 6>at the number one place in America, so you at

735
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:27.880
<v Speaker 6>the Mecca college basketball as a coach too. You get

736
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<v Speaker 6>inducted to the to the Natesmith Hall of Fame and

737
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:35.639
<v Speaker 6>you're still coaching three you get a lifetime contract, so

738
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<v Speaker 6>where else is there to go?

739
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<v Speaker 1>That's true.

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<v Speaker 6>And I tell people all the time, John Calipari is human,

741
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:47.800
<v Speaker 6>and I think he got complacent a little bit, which

742
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:51.239
<v Speaker 6>some people do, and that's what happened. But I still

743
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:53.440
<v Speaker 6>think that he has a lot of coaching left and

744
00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:56.679
<v Speaker 6>I think he's gonna become a better coach just because

745
00:42:56.719 --> 00:42:57.519
<v Speaker 6>of this situation.

746
00:42:57.800 --> 00:42:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, and you got to wonder. You and I have

747
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:03.079
<v Speaker 1>talked the last several months about the fact that his

748
00:43:03.159 --> 00:43:05.840
<v Speaker 1>final UK team was not indicative of the way he

749
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:09.119
<v Speaker 1>coaches defense. You were a player, you were a point guard,

750
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:12.079
<v Speaker 1>but you were known as a good defender, and your

751
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:15.440
<v Speaker 1>teams you've coached were good defensively. And I know how

752
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:20.599
<v Speaker 1>surprised you were that this pass Kentucky team was easily

753
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:24.639
<v Speaker 1>Cali Perry's worst defensive team and might have been his

754
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:29.280
<v Speaker 1>best offensive team. That was so confusing and frustrating.

755
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<v Speaker 6>It was and you know, to the fact that I

756
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:35.159
<v Speaker 6>went to practice and he never really worked on defense,

757
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:38.960
<v Speaker 6>that was surprising me. You know that he never really

758
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:41.360
<v Speaker 6>paid much attention to it, knowing that that was the

759
00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:45.000
<v Speaker 6>weakest part of his team. That was that was really

760
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<v Speaker 6>what was kind of you know, surprising.

761
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<v Speaker 1>Eye open.

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00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:51.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But I know he

763
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:54.719
<v Speaker 6>can coach defense because his teams are always known as

764
00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:57.000
<v Speaker 6>one of the best defensive teams in the country. But

765
00:43:57.480 --> 00:43:59.960
<v Speaker 6>he's always had shot blockers back there. He's always had

766
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:03.559
<v Speaker 6>had the Willly College the people like that, and big guards.

767
00:44:03.559 --> 00:44:06.880
<v Speaker 6>I don't think he had that first se this year.

768
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:10.440
<v Speaker 6>But still, when you got a bunch of young guys

769
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:13.119
<v Speaker 6>every year, the main thing you got to focus on,

770
00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:15.559
<v Speaker 6>especially in the summertime, is defense.

771
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, now, Mark Pope has a veteran lineup for the

772
00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:25.800
<v Speaker 1>most part, a veteran roster really with this challenging schedule,

773
00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:30.519
<v Speaker 1>but he went out and got guys known for their defense.

774
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:33.559
<v Speaker 1>When when you're trying to pull a team together and

775
00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:36.400
<v Speaker 1>you never had to really do that as a head coach,

776
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:38.559
<v Speaker 1>you were able to do it in a more conventional way,

777
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:43.039
<v Speaker 1>But to go out and build through transfers.

778
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<v Speaker 6>At least your own dick got most of my time.

779
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<v Speaker 6>I had to get transferred, is that right, Yeah, because

780
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<v Speaker 6>at the level I was that a really good high

781
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:55.400
<v Speaker 6>school player. So you maybe get one, yeah, maybe two,

782
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:58.519
<v Speaker 6>But other than that, I was getting transferred. That that's

783
00:44:58.679 --> 00:44:59.639
<v Speaker 6>I had to build my bill to.

784
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Well even better. What's it like trying to build a

785
00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:07.559
<v Speaker 1>team with the continuity and the communication challenges of playing

786
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:08.320
<v Speaker 1>good defense.

787
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<v Speaker 6>Well, I always got guys, you know, I recruited strategically.

788
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:17.239
<v Speaker 6>I got guys that played my style of play. I

789
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:20.400
<v Speaker 6>got guys that were tough, you know, that were rugged,

790
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:24.039
<v Speaker 6>defensive players that rebounds the ball. You know, my teams

791
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:28.000
<v Speaker 6>were top ten every year defensively field goal percentage. Also,

792
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:31.280
<v Speaker 6>we've crashed the glass, so I always was top five

793
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:34.840
<v Speaker 6>in offensive rebounding. So I always got those type of

794
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:37.440
<v Speaker 6>guys with big stroll guards that can sit down guard

795
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:41.159
<v Speaker 6>and the way we played defense. But you know, you

796
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:42.960
<v Speaker 6>got to get that. And if you're going to do

797
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:45.559
<v Speaker 6>transfer porter you got to get well if they were

798
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:48.679
<v Speaker 6>good at that place where they're leaving. You know, if

799
00:45:48.679 --> 00:45:50.360
<v Speaker 6>you need a score, then you're trying to get a

800
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:53.199
<v Speaker 6>transfer that can score. If you need a shot blocker,

801
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:55.159
<v Speaker 6>you try to get a transfer that can shop, that

802
00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:58.079
<v Speaker 6>can block shots. If you're trying to get an a

803
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:01.440
<v Speaker 6>ball defender, lockdown defend, and that's if you're going to

804
00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:03.519
<v Speaker 6>go in the transfer reporter, then that's what you're getting.

805
00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:06.760
<v Speaker 6>That's what you're looking for. So when you do get that,

806
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:10.599
<v Speaker 6>you already getting an experienced guy who already is pretty

807
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:12.400
<v Speaker 6>good at what you need him to do when he

808
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:13.239
<v Speaker 6>comes to your team.

809
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:17.159
<v Speaker 1>You had teams that played a lot of tough road

810
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:21.239
<v Speaker 1>games at the level at which you were coaching. Kentucky

811
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:23.599
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to do that obviously quite as much. But

812
00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:27.800
<v Speaker 1>early in the season, regular season, a trip to Atlanta

813
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:30.880
<v Speaker 1>to play Duke. That's going to give Mark Pope and

814
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:34.039
<v Speaker 1>a big Blue nation a chance to really see what

815
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:35.800
<v Speaker 1>they've got. What do you think it's going to be like?

816
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:38.400
<v Speaker 1>And what is it like Sean as a coach to

817
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:41.920
<v Speaker 1>take on an opponent that good that early in the year.

818
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:46.119
<v Speaker 6>Well, this is Kentucky, So you know they should be

819
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:50.599
<v Speaker 6>saying the same thing about us. Yeah, so you know

820
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:53.440
<v Speaker 6>we can't, you know, just because Mark's taking over the

821
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:58.159
<v Speaker 6>job and you know this thing is new We're still Kentucky.

822
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:01.840
<v Speaker 6>So from that stamp point, you know, we're used to

823
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:03.880
<v Speaker 6>play out, you know, we're used to playing a tougher

824
00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:06.119
<v Speaker 6>schedule than this. To be honest with you, you really only

825
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:10.079
<v Speaker 6>got two top twenty five teams on the schedule preseason,

826
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:13.400
<v Speaker 6>and that's Duke and Gonzaga. I don't see anybody else.

827
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:17.199
<v Speaker 6>You know what I'm saying. That's, you know, a typical

828
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:18.559
<v Speaker 6>Kentucky schedule.

829
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Right now, non conference, you know, yeah.

830
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, non conference. I think this is you know, a

831
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:27.400
<v Speaker 6>first year for a first year coach that you don't

832
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:29.880
<v Speaker 6>know how good he's going to be, type of schedule,

833
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:32.440
<v Speaker 6>just so he can get some wins and some confidence

834
00:47:32.519 --> 00:47:35.039
<v Speaker 6>under his belt going into the SEC Conference.

835
00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, and in the SEC you got Alabama twice, and

836
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:41.119
<v Speaker 1>that's the popular pick by some to go back to

837
00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:44.519
<v Speaker 1>the final four and even win it. You got Tennessee twice.

838
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:50.639
<v Speaker 1>I think people sometimes oftentimes underestimate how tough the SEC is.

839
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:53.079
<v Speaker 1>I think they were doing that shown back when you played.

840
00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:53.639
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

841
00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:57.519
<v Speaker 6>I'll tell you what I mean, tell me a conference

842
00:47:57.519 --> 00:47:59.519
<v Speaker 6>from top to bottom, this is as good as the SEC.

843
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:04.360
<v Speaker 6>Yeah know, old mention is not an easy out. You

844
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:09.119
<v Speaker 6>know Vanderbilt, especially going to Vanderbilt is not an easy out.

845
00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:12.400
<v Speaker 6>You know, you know how good Missippi State can be

846
00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:17.800
<v Speaker 6>at times. You know, George has been the one that's

847
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:18.159
<v Speaker 6>at the.

848
00:48:18.079 --> 00:48:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Bottom right now.

849
00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:21.239
<v Speaker 6>But I foresee them being a little bit better this year,

850
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:24.239
<v Speaker 6>just from a standpoint of getting some better transfers, some

851
00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:27.840
<v Speaker 6>older guys to help them. So, you know, LSU is

852
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:29.639
<v Speaker 6>going to be a lot better. They say, some really

853
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:35.519
<v Speaker 6>good kids. This league is tenacious and it's unforgiving, and

854
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:39.079
<v Speaker 6>you have probably some top to bottom, you know, the

855
00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:40.920
<v Speaker 6>best coaching conference in America.

856
00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Do you think fans take the SEC for granted? Though

857
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:48.599
<v Speaker 1>everything you just mentioned lines up with what I think.

858
00:48:48.639 --> 00:48:52.480
<v Speaker 1>But I think Kentucky fans have seen these teams for

859
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:56.039
<v Speaker 1>so long, for so many years, and you guys dominated

860
00:48:56.440 --> 00:48:59.119
<v Speaker 1>while you were playing. There have been stretches where Caliperi's

861
00:48:59.119 --> 00:49:03.159
<v Speaker 1>teams dominated the league. But I sometimes think Kentucky fans

862
00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:05.639
<v Speaker 1>just kind of look past the SEC for some reason.

863
00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:09.280
<v Speaker 6>Well, because we've been so successful, as you know that

864
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:14.239
<v Speaker 6>that's that's why we're the epitome of college basketball. Because

865
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:16.400
<v Speaker 6>of what you just said. You know, there's not too

866
00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:18.400
<v Speaker 6>many teams in America that can come in and win

867
00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:22.880
<v Speaker 6>as many games consistently, especially SEC championships, whether the tournament

868
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:26.000
<v Speaker 6>or regular season. The Kentucky you know, that was one

869
00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:29.360
<v Speaker 6>of the downfalls of cal you know, his last few years,

870
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:33.519
<v Speaker 6>you know, not making it to Sunday at the SEC tournament,

871
00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:37.039
<v Speaker 6>you know, ending up fourth or fifth place in the

872
00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:40.159
<v Speaker 6>regular season. That's not what Kentucky fans are used to.

873
00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:45.559
<v Speaker 6>And you know, not only you know, not even considering

874
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:48.519
<v Speaker 6>the national deal when you get to the NCAA tournament

875
00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:53.039
<v Speaker 6>and not you know, and not being at least a

876
00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:55.840
<v Speaker 6>two seed going into the tournament. And the reason why

877
00:49:55.840 --> 00:49:58.920
<v Speaker 6>we haven't been is because our league has gotten much

878
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:01.480
<v Speaker 6>better and it's getting even better with the teams that

879
00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:04.159
<v Speaker 6>are coming in. So it's not gonna be an easy

880
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:07.320
<v Speaker 6>out for football or basketball as far as the SEC

881
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:10.519
<v Speaker 6>is concerned. And uh, you know that's why we got

882
00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:14.719
<v Speaker 6>to really rally behind Mark and and uh Mark Pope

883
00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:17.480
<v Speaker 6>and and and and rally the truths because this thing

884
00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:19.679
<v Speaker 6>is not gonna be easy. You know, you got some

885
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:25.480
<v Speaker 6>teams already there. You know, they're not rebuilding, they just reloading.

886
00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:30.280
<v Speaker 6>We're rebuilding, and we're starting from scratch, new coach, new system,

887
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:34.679
<v Speaker 6>new type of players, new everything, and this is new

888
00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:37.159
<v Speaker 6>to even Mark being in the SEC, being at this

889
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:42.239
<v Speaker 6>level of competition. So you know, we we got to

890
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:45.760
<v Speaker 6>stand strong and be his backbone and give him some

891
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:48.639
<v Speaker 6>encouragement because it's not gonna be an easy role starting off,

892
00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:52.400
<v Speaker 6>because there's not one easy out in the SEC. And

893
00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:57.440
<v Speaker 6>hopefully this, this this schedule, pre conference schedule, can give

894
00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:01.000
<v Speaker 6>him some confidence and find out some things that he

895
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:05.679
<v Speaker 6>needs to find out about his team quickly before January starts,

896
00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:07.559
<v Speaker 6>when the SEC begins.

897
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:10.599
<v Speaker 1>Before I shift you over to football. One final basketball question.

898
00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Kind of an obvious question, but as a veteran of

899
00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:18.119
<v Speaker 1>the recruiting trail, tell me about the importance of Kentucky

900
00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:22.920
<v Speaker 1>landing Malachai Marino, a local guy and a big guy

901
00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:26.719
<v Speaker 1>at that kind of a must get for Mark Pope obviously,

902
00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:28.519
<v Speaker 1>wasn't he, Oh.

903
00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:29.119
<v Speaker 5>No doubt about it.

904
00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:30.920
<v Speaker 6>You can't let guys like that out of the state

905
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:33.960
<v Speaker 6>of Kentucky because they come, they're very rare to get

906
00:51:33.960 --> 00:51:36.280
<v Speaker 6>out to get out of the state. And that was

907
00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:40.199
<v Speaker 6>a great get for him, no doubt about it. You know,

908
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:42.880
<v Speaker 6>his brother was a really good player that Easton had

909
00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:44.360
<v Speaker 6>a couple of injuries, but he was a really good

910
00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:47.000
<v Speaker 6>high school player too, and for the young fellow to

911
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:49.079
<v Speaker 6>come up and grow and be a seven footer and

912
00:51:49.119 --> 00:51:52.440
<v Speaker 6>he's real skilled. I saw him play probably four or

913
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:55.239
<v Speaker 6>five times this year, and the one thing I liked

914
00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:58.159
<v Speaker 6>about him was most big guys when they're playing against

915
00:51:58.199 --> 00:52:01.719
<v Speaker 6>smaller guys, they kind of they're out of their element

916
00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:05.880
<v Speaker 6>a little bit. But he's so skilled, especially with the ball,

917
00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:09.159
<v Speaker 6>that he was able to do what a seven foot

918
00:52:09.239 --> 00:52:12.159
<v Speaker 6>is supposed to do in high school. He's got great hands.

919
00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:14.199
<v Speaker 6>He blocked every shot but he was supposed to block.

920
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:19.320
<v Speaker 6>He finished every bucket underneath that he was supposed to finish.

921
00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:24.000
<v Speaker 6>He ran the floor. He can make moves against young,

922
00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:27.679
<v Speaker 6>smaller guys that are much quicker. That really impressed me.

923
00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:30.920
<v Speaker 6>And uh, I think he's a competitor. I think he's

924
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:34.320
<v Speaker 6>a winner, and and he comes from great jeans. I mean,

925
00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:37.159
<v Speaker 6>his brother, you know, laid the foundation. I really think

926
00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:40.760
<v Speaker 6>a lot about his his brother, and for him to

927
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:43.920
<v Speaker 6>come right behind that's a young one and be seven

928
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:46.960
<v Speaker 6>foot and to have that type of ability and also

929
00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:49.760
<v Speaker 6>toughness because he's top five big in the country, not

930
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:52.440
<v Speaker 6>only just one of the big, probably the best big

931
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:54.039
<v Speaker 6>in the state of Kentucky. But he's top five in

932
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:56.559
<v Speaker 6>the country as far as Biggs are concerned, and that's

933
00:52:56.559 --> 00:52:58.280
<v Speaker 6>what you want. You can't let that get away.

934
00:52:58.480 --> 00:52:58.760
<v Speaker 5>Now.

935
00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:01.480
<v Speaker 6>The question is are we going to get Dennis johnson

936
00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:04.719
<v Speaker 6>Son Yeah, Jeffs No, that's the number. That's one of

937
00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:08.239
<v Speaker 6>the top five players in the country. Can we solidify

938
00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:11.159
<v Speaker 6>him as an n State kid? You know that's the

939
00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:12.159
<v Speaker 6>question right now.

940
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:15.079
<v Speaker 1>Sean Wood's my guess, the unforgettable guard. We'll come back

941
00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:17.280
<v Speaker 1>and actually talk football with a coach in just a minute.

942
00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:21.119
<v Speaker 1>You're on a big Moonsider six thirty WLAP Welcome back.

943
00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:24.320
<v Speaker 1>We're talking to Sean Woods, the unforgettable guard and veteran

944
00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:28.199
<v Speaker 1>of the college basketball coaching wars, but a football fan

945
00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:31.079
<v Speaker 1>as well. You're excited for this upcoming UK football season.

946
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:34.760
<v Speaker 6>I'm always exciting. Reason why I'm excited, man, because I've

947
00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:37.079
<v Speaker 6>been going twenty five years, Dick and I've never had

948
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:41.679
<v Speaker 6>a tailgated or been to a tailgate since I left here.

949
00:53:41.800 --> 00:53:45.840
<v Speaker 6>So I got a chance that Dwayne Casey came intown

950
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:48.360
<v Speaker 6>one that one day and we went to the Tennessee

951
00:53:48.440 --> 00:53:51.159
<v Speaker 6>Kentucky football game, which was a great game.

952
00:53:51.199 --> 00:53:51.639
<v Speaker 5>We won.

953
00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:54.519
<v Speaker 6>So that's the only game I've been to it, So

954
00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:59.760
<v Speaker 6>I'm looking forward to being around more often tailgating and

955
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:03.320
<v Speaker 6>taking in being a former UK not just student, but

956
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:07.480
<v Speaker 6>I mean UK athlete, but also a former student and alumni.

957
00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:10.679
<v Speaker 6>So I'm looking forward to it. Mark Students has done

958
00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:12.800
<v Speaker 6>a great job and I think he's going to continue to.

959
00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:15.440
<v Speaker 6>You know, the road is tougher because the teams that

960
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:19.119
<v Speaker 6>are in the league now, but uh, you know, as

961
00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:21.760
<v Speaker 6>far as I'm concerned, you know, there's no better guy

962
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:24.880
<v Speaker 6>for the job and what he's done on a consistent basis.

963
00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Did you play football growing up or are you strictly bad?

964
00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:29.199
<v Speaker 1>Did you know?

965
00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:32.920
<v Speaker 6>I played football and baseball, and I was just as

966
00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:35.119
<v Speaker 6>good at both both of them. I was just as fast.

967
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:38.440
<v Speaker 6>You know, I was a receiver. You know my high

968
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:41.639
<v Speaker 6>school won state championships. I played with guys that are

969
00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:43.599
<v Speaker 6>in the pros. You know the Blame Bishops of the

970
00:54:43.599 --> 00:54:47.039
<v Speaker 6>world that played defensive back for the Tennessee Titans. You

971
00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:49.679
<v Speaker 6>know the Derrick Brownlows who just got inducted to the

972
00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:52.199
<v Speaker 6>high school Hall of Fame that you know, it was

973
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:54.960
<v Speaker 6>a second run up to the Buckets Award at Illinois.

974
00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:59.679
<v Speaker 6>More Gardener, who was nose guard at Illinois and played

975
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:03.920
<v Speaker 6>those guard for the Atlanta Falcons for ten twelve years.

976
00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:07.280
<v Speaker 6>I've back football has been in my blood, Baseball has

977
00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:10.159
<v Speaker 6>been in my blood, and that's so happened. Basketball was

978
00:55:10.199 --> 00:55:11.199
<v Speaker 6>more excited. You know.

979
00:55:11.559 --> 00:55:14.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I knew, I knew you played baseball, but were

980
00:55:14.679 --> 00:55:16.840
<v Speaker 1>you a guy who went over the middle as a receiver.

981
00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:22.559
<v Speaker 6>I did what I had to do. I played defensive

982
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:25.920
<v Speaker 6>back too, so you know I gave more hits than

983
00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:28.320
<v Speaker 6>I got, which was good for me.

984
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:31.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh that's excellent. Yeah. Why do you think Stoops

985
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:35.199
<v Speaker 1>has been so successful here at Kentucky when other guys

986
00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:37.760
<v Speaker 1>failed Because he's.

987
00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:42.519
<v Speaker 6>Relentless, you know, and hats off to Vince too, you

988
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:45.880
<v Speaker 6>know what tomorrow because he's they they've gone out and

989
00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:49.159
<v Speaker 6>really gotten some guys. They found their niche, you know,

990
00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:51.960
<v Speaker 6>and over in the Ohio area and places like that

991
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:55.360
<v Speaker 6>where and also now that the transfer portal has been

992
00:55:55.440 --> 00:56:00.000
<v Speaker 6>so you know, they're they're able to get quality quarterbacks. Yeah,

993
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:03.800
<v Speaker 6>you know, and if you've got a great quarterback, defense

994
00:56:03.880 --> 00:56:06.239
<v Speaker 6>has been a key. You know, he's putting pros left,

995
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:09.519
<v Speaker 6>just as many pros in the NFL on the defensive

996
00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:13.719
<v Speaker 6>side than anybody else in the SEC conference. So you know,

997
00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:16.360
<v Speaker 6>they found their niche. I think their coaching philosophy is great.

998
00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:19.719
<v Speaker 6>I think he's hard nosed. I think he's just as

999
00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:23.119
<v Speaker 6>smart as any coach in America. You know, Kentucky has

1000
00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:27.719
<v Speaker 6>their facilities of second to none to anybody, and now

1001
00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:30.159
<v Speaker 6>they're starting to race. You know, playing in SEC is

1002
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:33.840
<v Speaker 6>playing in the SEC. And you know, I think he's

1003
00:56:33.880 --> 00:56:36.960
<v Speaker 6>now being able to get some continued to get some skills.

1004
00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:41.280
<v Speaker 6>You know that a second tier guy at Alabama is

1005
00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:43.679
<v Speaker 6>just as good as the first tier guy at Kentucky,

1006
00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:46.960
<v Speaker 6>which can compete against the first tier guy at Alabama. Yeah,

1007
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:51.679
<v Speaker 6>so it's so much parody now, especially when it comes

1008
00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:55.199
<v Speaker 6>to football. You know, it comes down to speed, agility,

1009
00:56:55.960 --> 00:56:58.760
<v Speaker 6>and you know when you line them up shoot. Now

1010
00:56:58.760 --> 00:57:00.519
<v Speaker 6>it just comes down to coaching schemes.

1011
00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you mentioned stealing guys. I mean Rock Vandergriff

1012
00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:09.400
<v Speaker 1>couldn't quite couldn't quite be out Carson Beck, who's everybody's

1013
00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:12.440
<v Speaker 1>favorite quarterback now and now he gets a chance to

1014
00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:14.239
<v Speaker 1>show what he can do a Kentucky. I think that's

1015
00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:15.039
<v Speaker 1>really intriguing.

1016
00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:18.000
<v Speaker 6>And you're getting guys with chips on the show. Oh y,

1017
00:57:18.360 --> 00:57:21.280
<v Speaker 6>what better recruit and better transfer to get than a

1018
00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:24.119
<v Speaker 6>guy that's coming in that's hungry and ready to prove

1019
00:57:24.199 --> 00:57:26.360
<v Speaker 6>himself to the from the to the place to where

1020
00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:29.440
<v Speaker 6>he left. So I think they're very they're very strategic

1021
00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:32.320
<v Speaker 6>on that and that's why they're continued to be successful. Plus,

1022
00:57:32.360 --> 00:57:35.119
<v Speaker 6>you come to Kentucky, you know, even though it's football,

1023
00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:38.119
<v Speaker 6>it's still hard to say no, you know, because there's

1024
00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:40.920
<v Speaker 6>not too many places that is nice as Lexington, Kentucky.

1025
00:57:41.280 --> 00:57:43.280
<v Speaker 6>And you're gonna get treated just as good here as

1026
00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:45.800
<v Speaker 6>you will at any other university in America.

1027
00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Sean Woods, the Unforgettable Guard, we travel him each and

1028
00:57:48.519 --> 00:57:51.039
<v Speaker 1>every Wednesday. Coach, thank you so much, and maybe we'll

1029
00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:53.039
<v Speaker 1>see you in the parking lot on football game.

1030
00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:54.880
<v Speaker 6>Day, no doubt about it.

1031
00:57:54.920 --> 00:57:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Man, Sean Woods, the Unforgettable Guard. His jersey hangs in

1032
00:57:59.079 --> 00:58:02.039
<v Speaker 1>the rafters rup and we talk with him each and

1033
00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:05.679
<v Speaker 1>every Wednesday. As I said, when our schedules aligned. Coming

1034
00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:08.320
<v Speaker 1>up next, it's our West End Bureau chief, Gary Moore.

1035
00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:11.280
<v Speaker 1>We'll have a chance to talk some baseball, football and

1036
00:58:11.360 --> 00:58:13.880
<v Speaker 1>basketball with Gary on the other side of the break

1037
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:17.719
<v Speaker 1>here on the Big Blue Sider six thirty WLAP Welcome

1038
00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:19.639
<v Speaker 1>back to the Big Blue Sider. Joining us down our

1039
00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:25.280
<v Speaker 1>celebrity hotline guy Guy, He's a celebrity, whether he likes

1040
00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:28.320
<v Speaker 1>it or not. The longest time covered sports at KALOS

1041
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:31.639
<v Speaker 1>Radio in La was our West Coast bureau chief. Now

1042
00:58:31.639 --> 00:58:33.960
<v Speaker 1>at the other end of I sixty four as our

1043
00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:37.840
<v Speaker 1>West End bureau chief, Gary Moore, enjoying this nice, cool weather.

1044
00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:41.079
<v Speaker 3>I know, I love it. That's absolutely great. How about yourself?

1045
00:58:41.239 --> 00:58:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's wonderful.

1046
00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:46.000
<v Speaker 3>Here in the garage, it's two guys in a six pack,

1047
00:58:46.039 --> 00:58:49.000
<v Speaker 3>two guys six topics. Here we go our first sip.

1048
00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:51.920
<v Speaker 3>As we say, Dick, I bring you good news right

1049
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:55.400
<v Speaker 3>off the bat. Our long national nightmare is over. The

1050
00:58:55.519 --> 00:58:59.239
<v Speaker 3>drought has ended. Last weekend, the last one without college

1051
00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:03.840
<v Speaker 3>football or basketball until April twelve, twenty twenty five. We

1052
00:59:03.880 --> 00:59:07.639
<v Speaker 3>have a two guys in six pack. Hope that you've

1053
00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:10.360
<v Speaker 3>enjoyed the time with your families wherever you may be

1054
00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:12.440
<v Speaker 3>listening to this now that they're going to be once

1055
00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:17.840
<v Speaker 3>again on the social back burner until Sacrify five absolutely

1056
00:59:17.920 --> 00:59:22.760
<v Speaker 3>idios because Saturday, This Saturday, ESPN high noon, Eastern live

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00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:25.719
<v Speaker 3>from a Viva Stadium, Dublin, Ireland, Number ten, Florida State,

1058
00:59:26.039 --> 00:59:29.199
<v Speaker 3>I guess number nothing, Georgia Tech kicking off the twenty

1059
00:59:29.239 --> 00:59:33.599
<v Speaker 3>twenty four college football season. Bigora, It's back sort of.

1060
00:59:34.440 --> 00:59:36.159
<v Speaker 3>It's like the one big game of the days. Now.

1061
00:59:36.199 --> 00:59:41.400
<v Speaker 3>Some may wonder how come Dublin gets the opening honors again, Well, duh, because,

1062
00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:43.079
<v Speaker 3>like the rest of the free world, when I think

1063
00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:47.400
<v Speaker 3>of Ireland, I automatically think, oh, yeah, Seminoles and let's

1064
00:59:47.400 --> 00:59:50.079
<v Speaker 3>see that acclaimed engineering school which has a nineteen thirty

1065
00:59:50.159 --> 00:59:53.159
<v Speaker 3>Ramlin rec model, a Coop mascot, who doesn't think that

1066
00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:58.280
<v Speaker 3>there's actually, unfortunately, no fighting Irish this year in the

1067
00:59:58.400 --> 01:00:00.840
<v Speaker 3>Dublin unless they're gonna in the stands when the Guinness

1068
01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:03.159
<v Speaker 3>runs out. By the way, I asked, will you be

1069
01:00:03.199 --> 01:00:05.360
<v Speaker 3>watching with or without a case of Guinness and maybe

1070
01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:08.320
<v Speaker 3>some Jamison? And are you, Dick Gabriel so desperate for

1071
01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:11.960
<v Speaker 3>college football? You'll accidentally tune into some of those other

1072
01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:16.000
<v Speaker 3>games on Saturday, like Montana State a New Mexico or

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01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:17.400
<v Speaker 3>SMU at Nevada.

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01:00:18.119 --> 01:00:21.159
<v Speaker 1>I may watch some of the games on Thursday, you know,

1075
01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Southern Utah and Utah, that kind of thing. But yeah,

1076
01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:28.519
<v Speaker 1>the highlight game, the highest profile, is the game in Dublin.

1077
01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:30.960
<v Speaker 1>But before I knock it, remember you're talking to a

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01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:34.400
<v Speaker 1>guy who once worked a game in Tokyo. So this

1079
01:00:34.559 --> 01:00:38.199
<v Speaker 1>was back in the eighties. So there is a market

1080
01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:41.519
<v Speaker 1>for college football overseas. And then, trust me, and this

1081
01:00:41.599 --> 01:00:44.000
<v Speaker 1>is not a knock on the Japanese. Find people in Japan.

1082
01:00:44.440 --> 01:00:47.079
<v Speaker 1>They didn't even understand what they were seeing. They had

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01:00:47.119 --> 01:00:49.920
<v Speaker 1>to explain it on the big board, and they still

1084
01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:53.119
<v Speaker 1>loved it. So yeah, as long as there's an audience,

1085
01:00:53.440 --> 01:00:55.880
<v Speaker 1>why not. And I would love to cover a game

1086
01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:56.440
<v Speaker 1>in Dublin.

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01:00:57.239 --> 01:00:59.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I bet you would, so would I for that matter.

1088
01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:03.920
<v Speaker 3>By the way, speaking of games, I've completely forgot about

1089
01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:09.079
<v Speaker 3>those games on Thursday for a good reason. Our second sip,

1090
01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:14.559
<v Speaker 3>speaking of football with paid athletes, Two more NFL practice

1091
01:01:14.599 --> 01:01:16.920
<v Speaker 3>games exhibition games? What do you want to call them?

1092
01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:19.239
<v Speaker 3>That you can try and endure on a screen near

1093
01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:22.199
<v Speaker 3>you tomorrow night. First at eight eastern on Amazon up

1094
01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:24.440
<v Speaker 3>I seventy five. You got the Colts at the Bengals.

1095
01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:28.840
<v Speaker 3>Then at a twenty the rumored next coming of Patrick Mahomes,

1096
01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:32.639
<v Speaker 3>Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears versus the actual Patrick

1097
01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:36.880
<v Speaker 3>Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs on the NFL Network. Dick,

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01:01:36.920 --> 01:01:39.440
<v Speaker 3>I've already watched enough NFL practice games this year. That's

1099
01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:41.360
<v Speaker 3>time I'll never get back in my life. And I

1100
01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:43.880
<v Speaker 3>can safely say that the quality of football that I

1101
01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:47.280
<v Speaker 3>have witnessed these past couple of weeks, to quote Chevy

1102
01:01:47.320 --> 01:01:53.280
<v Speaker 3>Chase from Caddy Shack, it's really really awful. Actually, race

1103
01:01:53.320 --> 01:01:55.719
<v Speaker 3>is the question, why even play some of these games?

1104
01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:59.800
<v Speaker 3>Why not use the untelevised team versus team scrimmages that

1105
01:01:59.840 --> 01:02:02.159
<v Speaker 3>they have all the time to decide the rosters, then

1106
01:02:02.280 --> 01:02:05.639
<v Speaker 3>hit the season running with games you can actually count

1107
01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:08.079
<v Speaker 3>in the standings, like gee, I don't know college and

1108
01:02:08.119 --> 01:02:09.480
<v Speaker 3>high school teams do every year?

1109
01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Or is it?

1110
01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:12.719
<v Speaker 3>And this may be the answer in the question, is

1111
01:02:12.719 --> 01:02:15.480
<v Speaker 3>it just all an NFL owner money grab for the

1112
01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:17.880
<v Speaker 3>TV though associated with those practice games?

1113
01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:19.639
<v Speaker 1>So I think you know the answer to that one.

1114
01:02:19.679 --> 01:02:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Although the TV though isn't quite what it is regular season,

1115
01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:25.239
<v Speaker 1>because these are games that are broadcast by the local

1116
01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:28.239
<v Speaker 1>affiliates and then picked up by the likes, of course,

1117
01:02:28.280 --> 01:02:30.760
<v Speaker 1>of the NFL network or whatever. But the worldwide leader

1118
01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:33.440
<v Speaker 1>jumps in there every now and then. To your point,

1119
01:02:33.639 --> 01:02:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I think it'll come to that what you said with

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01:02:36.440 --> 01:02:40.960
<v Speaker 1>the practice games or the controlled practices with two teams,

1121
01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:44.280
<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that they often lead to fights, but

1122
01:02:44.880 --> 01:02:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I think the players prefer that, and the players are

1123
01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:49.840
<v Speaker 1>going to have to agree, as we often say, to

1124
01:02:49.920 --> 01:02:53.559
<v Speaker 1>whatever happens. But yeah, and you're cheating your viewers. And

1125
01:02:53.559 --> 01:02:56.079
<v Speaker 1>here's how bad it is. Gary. I tune in for

1126
01:02:56.199 --> 01:02:58.599
<v Speaker 1>my beloved Packers, part of which I own, as you

1127
01:02:58.639 --> 01:03:02.760
<v Speaker 1>well know, I turned it off because, for one thing,

1128
01:03:02.800 --> 01:03:05.519
<v Speaker 1>our backups, the Packers' backups, weren't playing very well. But

1129
01:03:06.199 --> 01:03:08.559
<v Speaker 1>for another reason, I don't even know most of these guys,

1130
01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:11.800
<v Speaker 1>So why bother? You're wasting my time? And I got

1131
01:03:11.920 --> 01:03:15.400
<v Speaker 1>to think now, what it does is it helps backups

1132
01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:17.800
<v Speaker 1>make the team. But I gotta think they could do

1133
01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:18.960
<v Speaker 1>that in practice as well.

1134
01:03:19.519 --> 01:03:23.280
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, And I think also because the owners now require

1135
01:03:23.280 --> 01:03:25.079
<v Speaker 3>if you're gonna get season tickets, you have to get

1136
01:03:25.079 --> 01:03:27.519
<v Speaker 3>the tickets to pay for these games as well. And

1137
01:03:27.519 --> 01:03:29.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't think there used to be a trend. I

1138
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:31.440
<v Speaker 3>don't think it was back in the sixties and seventies.

1139
01:03:31.480 --> 01:03:35.199
<v Speaker 3>I think maybe some of those might have been optional.

1140
01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:38.079
<v Speaker 3>I don't really know for sure, but now it's definitely

1141
01:03:38.119 --> 01:03:40.000
<v Speaker 3>if you get season tickets for any NFL team, you

1142
01:03:40.039 --> 01:03:42.800
<v Speaker 3>have to go to these practice games as well. In

1143
01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:45.599
<v Speaker 3>your whole budget. Our third swig in the six backs.

1144
01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:48.559
<v Speaker 3>Speaking of crummy practice football, there are many reasons, Dick,

1145
01:03:48.599 --> 01:03:51.719
<v Speaker 3>why I'm glad I'm not a Pittsburgh Steelers fan, but

1146
01:03:51.800 --> 01:03:54.960
<v Speaker 3>two main reasons come to mind. The reasons being Russell

1147
01:03:55.000 --> 01:04:00.199
<v Speaker 3>Wilson and Justin Fields, two supposedly veteran quarterbacks, and one

1148
01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:02.760
<v Speaker 3>Wilson even won a Super Bowl, but neither one seems

1149
01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:08.199
<v Speaker 3>worthy to even start. So we have so many mediocre quarterbacks,

1150
01:04:08.199 --> 01:04:12.000
<v Speaker 3>obviously again in the NFL, trying to become number two

1151
01:04:12.079 --> 01:04:14.960
<v Speaker 3>or whatever in these practice games. So that means, right on,

1152
01:04:15.039 --> 01:04:19.119
<v Speaker 3>cue the name Colin Kaepernick pops up again, especially when

1153
01:04:19.199 --> 01:04:22.000
<v Speaker 3>you've got stiffs like I don't know, proven stiffs like

1154
01:04:22.079 --> 01:04:25.480
<v Speaker 3>Tim Boyle and Zach Wilson still in the mix to

1155
01:04:25.519 --> 01:04:29.400
<v Speaker 3>get on the rosters. Some say, hey, Tennessee signed Shane Ray.

1156
01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:32.079
<v Speaker 3>That's a linebacker, hadn't played in six years in the NFL,

1157
01:04:32.239 --> 01:04:35.519
<v Speaker 3>so why not get cap as a backup somewhere. Somebody's

1158
01:04:35.519 --> 01:04:37.119
<v Speaker 3>got to use him, right, Well, it's a good question,

1159
01:04:37.719 --> 01:04:40.400
<v Speaker 3>But then again Ray went up to the Great White North,

1160
01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:43.840
<v Speaker 3>humbled himself and played on the Gray Cup champion Toronto

1161
01:04:43.920 --> 01:04:47.239
<v Speaker 3>Argonauts of the CFL for two years. Yeah, Kaepernick has

1162
01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:49.800
<v Speaker 3>refused to do that or even anything like that. So

1163
01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:53.079
<v Speaker 3>after not playing since the twenty sixteen season and now

1164
01:04:53.079 --> 01:04:56.280
<v Speaker 3>he's thirty six, here's another question. Do you think Kaepernick's

1165
01:04:56.360 --> 01:04:57.639
<v Speaker 3>own worst enemy these days?

1166
01:04:57.719 --> 01:05:00.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I do, and I think you know, how do

1167
01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:03.440
<v Speaker 1>you feel about what he did initially? It's what happened

1168
01:05:03.480 --> 01:05:07.280
<v Speaker 1>after that that disappointed me. He had multiple opportunities to

1169
01:05:07.400 --> 01:05:09.719
<v Speaker 1>come back and be a part of a team and

1170
01:05:09.800 --> 01:05:12.480
<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason turned it down. Maybe it's because Nike

1171
01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:14.800
<v Speaker 1>went ahead and put some money in his pocket and

1172
01:05:14.840 --> 01:05:18.960
<v Speaker 1>he didn't need to do it to survive. But with

1173
01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:21.800
<v Speaker 1>every year, you got to hope that the discussion about

1174
01:05:21.880 --> 01:05:24.679
<v Speaker 1>him is over. And he even turned out a coaching opportunity.

1175
01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:28.519
<v Speaker 1>So I'm ready to put that topic to bed. Yeah.

1176
01:05:28.679 --> 01:05:31.639
<v Speaker 1>Same here. By the way, the two names you chose

1177
01:05:31.679 --> 01:05:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Tim Boyle, former EKU colonel for a year and Zach Wilson,

1178
01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:38.840
<v Speaker 1>a guy I thought was going to be a home

1179
01:05:38.920 --> 01:05:42.159
<v Speaker 1>run higher to mix my metaphors. So it's interesting that

1180
01:05:42.199 --> 01:05:45.719
<v Speaker 1>you go there because Wilson may be the biggest disappointment

1181
01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:47.800
<v Speaker 1>at quarterback in the last five years.

1182
01:05:48.400 --> 01:05:51.880
<v Speaker 3>He may not be a third behind of bo Nix

1183
01:05:52.039 --> 01:05:53.960
<v Speaker 3>and uh the stead of the other guy.

1184
01:05:54.159 --> 01:05:56.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh No, I firmly believe that.

1185
01:05:57.280 --> 01:05:59.400
<v Speaker 3>Our forts Wig and the six pack. An update on

1186
01:05:59.480 --> 01:06:01.760
<v Speaker 3>Lexington's Walker Buler, a good guy who we both like

1187
01:06:01.840 --> 01:06:04.679
<v Speaker 3>a lot. He made his tenth start of the season

1188
01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:07.960
<v Speaker 3>last night against Seattle. I stayed up way way late

1189
01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:10.039
<v Speaker 3>watching the Dodgers, as I do most nights anyway, But

1190
01:06:10.360 --> 01:06:11.960
<v Speaker 3>it was his tenth start of the season last night

1191
01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:15.000
<v Speaker 3>against Seattle, and his second start since Walker returned from

1192
01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:17.519
<v Speaker 3>a hip injury, and that was after missing almost two

1193
01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:20.000
<v Speaker 3>years with his second Tommy John surgery that happened two

1194
01:06:20.039 --> 01:06:22.159
<v Speaker 3>years ago this very month, as a matter of fact,

1195
01:06:22.719 --> 01:06:24.199
<v Speaker 3>and Dick, I wish I had better news. It was

1196
01:06:24.239 --> 01:06:26.519
<v Speaker 3>not a great outing for Walker. Only four innings, eighty

1197
01:06:26.559 --> 01:06:30.719
<v Speaker 3>two pitches, three runs, seven hits, all earned runs, three walks,

1198
01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:36.079
<v Speaker 3>and a really telling stat only one strikeout, which for

1199
01:06:36.159 --> 01:06:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Walker is strange anyway, but against the worst strikeout team

1200
01:06:39.480 --> 01:06:43.559
<v Speaker 3>in the majors, Seattle that averages over ten strikeouts a game,

1201
01:06:44.360 --> 01:06:47.400
<v Speaker 3>is really telling. Walker could get guys to two strikes,

1202
01:06:47.400 --> 01:06:50.639
<v Speaker 3>couldn't put him away. His confidence seemed really off. Even

1203
01:06:50.639 --> 01:06:53.000
<v Speaker 3>the announcers, the play by play guys were talking about that.

1204
01:06:53.719 --> 01:06:55.679
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how many more starts the Dodgers will

1205
01:06:55.679 --> 01:06:57.679
<v Speaker 3>give him, but they got to have him right if

1206
01:06:58.079 --> 01:07:00.159
<v Speaker 3>they're going to go deep into October, because there's not

1207
01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:02.880
<v Speaker 3>a whole lot of choices left. Walker's health issues are

1208
01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:04.960
<v Speaker 3>endemic to the Dodgers' entire team. If you haven't been

1209
01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:08.880
<v Speaker 3>paying attention, They've lost both pitchers and position players all season.

1210
01:07:09.320 --> 01:07:12.400
<v Speaker 3>Third baseman Max Munsey just returned after an oblique injury

1211
01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:13.760
<v Speaker 3>that kept him out for three months.

1212
01:07:13.800 --> 01:07:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Now.

1213
01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:16.440
<v Speaker 3>He's had two home runs in his two games back.

1214
01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:20.480
<v Speaker 3>Mookie Wilson, former MVP, just got back after a broken

1215
01:07:20.519 --> 01:07:23.840
<v Speaker 3>hand sidelined him for a couple of months. As for pitching,

1216
01:07:24.320 --> 01:07:27.679
<v Speaker 3>may have heard about this. The Dodgers have eleven starting

1217
01:07:27.719 --> 01:07:31.800
<v Speaker 3>pitchers on the il. Three have undergone Tommy John surgery,

1218
01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:34.559
<v Speaker 3>to add to the two others still recovering from those

1219
01:07:34.559 --> 01:07:37.800
<v Speaker 3>surgeries in the last two years. The cruel joke around

1220
01:07:37.800 --> 01:07:40.280
<v Speaker 3>Major League Baseball is, hey, join the Dodgers, get a

1221
01:07:40.280 --> 01:07:45.400
<v Speaker 3>free Tommy John surgery. Baseball Prospectus says no other team

1222
01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:47.960
<v Speaker 3>has lost more days in production to the injured list

1223
01:07:48.039 --> 01:07:51.159
<v Speaker 3>than the Dodgers. And yet, and yet they have the

1224
01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:54.760
<v Speaker 3>second best record in the National League, second overall in

1225
01:07:54.800 --> 01:07:57.920
<v Speaker 3>the majors. What does that say to you about their

1226
01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:01.119
<v Speaker 3>chanceers and their chances in the postseason if they end

1227
01:08:01.199 --> 01:08:02.800
<v Speaker 3>up staying all healthy.

1228
01:08:02.599 --> 01:08:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, literally as good as anybody's because practically everybody has

1229
01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:08.599
<v Speaker 1>a shot right now. I saw a listing where there

1230
01:08:08.599 --> 01:08:11.480
<v Speaker 1>are twelve or thirteen teams when you look at their

1231
01:08:11.519 --> 01:08:15.400
<v Speaker 1>one loss records separated by only seven games. You know,

1232
01:08:15.559 --> 01:08:18.199
<v Speaker 1>seven games in the one loss records. So I guess

1233
01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:21.039
<v Speaker 1>parody is caught up with baseball, except in the case

1234
01:08:21.079 --> 01:08:24.800
<v Speaker 1>of the Dodgers, which looked like a machine preseason thanks

1235
01:08:24.800 --> 01:08:26.960
<v Speaker 1>to the money they spent. But to your point, you

1236
01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:29.800
<v Speaker 1>got to stay healthy and poor Walker, I mean, Henry

1237
01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:32.319
<v Speaker 1>Clay Blue Devil went to high school with my kids.

1238
01:08:32.359 --> 01:08:35.920
<v Speaker 1>His wife grew up next door to my children. So yeah,

1239
01:08:36.119 --> 01:08:37.640
<v Speaker 1>as far as you and I are concerned, he's the

1240
01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:40.319
<v Speaker 1>home team here in Lexington, or at least one of them.

1241
01:08:40.359 --> 01:08:44.279
<v Speaker 1>So just get a few of those pictures healthy and

1242
01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:46.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe the Dodgers can disrupt all that parody.

1243
01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:50.159
<v Speaker 3>By the way, the unicorn Shoheyo Tani that has been

1244
01:08:50.239 --> 01:08:55.960
<v Speaker 3>leading off is his average four months of August. Hopefully

1245
01:08:56.039 --> 01:08:58.039
<v Speaker 3>that will change for them. If not, they can have

1246
01:08:58.039 --> 01:09:00.720
<v Speaker 3>some big problems. Our fifth swig in the six pack, Dick.

1247
01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:03.000
<v Speaker 3>We can't talk about baseball this time year without reminding

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<v Speaker 3>everyone the Little League World Series in Williamsport is into

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<v Speaker 3>its home stretch. I hope you caught that great MLB game,

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<v Speaker 3>some wonderful moments with the kids Sunday on ESPN with

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<v Speaker 3>the Yankees and Tigers. This is becoming one of my

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<v Speaker 3>favorite games to watch every year, where they sit in

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01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:19.640
<v Speaker 3>the stands and they do a lot of fun stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>go down the hill in the cardboard with the kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Little League Baseball, and it is really baseball for me

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<v Speaker 3>in its purest forum. You and I played it. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the launching pad for some great memories, if not for

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<v Speaker 3>some famous MLB careers. But it's also been the starting

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<v Speaker 3>point for many pitchers in the pros who eventually end

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<v Speaker 3>up with these arm problems we're just talking about once

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<v Speaker 3>they begin throwing as hard as they can for too

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<v Speaker 3>many innings. Over use in teenage years is now cited

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<v Speaker 3>as a huge problem, with pioneering orthopedic surgeon doctor James

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<v Speaker 3>Andrews saying more Tommy John surgeries are now happening not

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<v Speaker 3>in the majors or minor leagues, but in youth baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>He says, quote, these kids are throwing ninety miles an

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<v Speaker 3>hour their junior year of high school. The ligament can't

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<v Speaker 3>withstand that kind of force. The Tommy John ligament matures

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<v Speaker 3>at about age twenty six in high school. The red

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<v Speaker 3>line where the forces go beyond the tensail properties of

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<v Speaker 3>the ligament is eighty miles an hour, unquote doctor James Andrew.

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<v Speaker 3>So now you probably saw this. Major League Baseball is

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<v Speaker 3>floating the idea of making starting pitchers go at least

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<v Speaker 3>six innings, with a couple of exceptions to that rule,

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<v Speaker 3>forsing teams and players to kind of rethink throwing as

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<v Speaker 3>hard as they can for as long as they can.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the idea of it, but you think this

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<v Speaker 3>would ever happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Help not. But to your original point, and I've talked

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<v Speaker 1>to college coaches about this, you're exactly right. They were saying,

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<v Speaker 1>kids feel like they have to throw as hard as

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<v Speaker 1>they can on every pitch, and something's got to give. Literally,

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be that ligament. But I think right

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<v Speaker 1>now parents are looking at college and the expense and

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<v Speaker 1>thinking if we can just get our kid, and kids

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<v Speaker 1>are thinking it too. Get myself a scholarship, and now

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to be more scholarships available. Just get me

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<v Speaker 1>a scholarship and I'll be on my way. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if I can throw high eighties low nineties in high school,

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<v Speaker 1>someone's gonna sign me. But no, it's a bad idea, Gary,

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<v Speaker 1>I think simply because you're going to force managers and

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<v Speaker 1>pitchers to go deeper into games. They shouldn't be throwing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if a guy's not right, he shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>forced to stay out there for six innings. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the answer is, but that ain't one

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<v Speaker 1>of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Sixth and final swig on the six pack. USA Men's

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<v Speaker 3>basketball in Minnesota TEMPERBWLS outstanding guard Anthony Edwards gave an

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<v Speaker 3>interesting interview to The Wall Street Journal the other day,

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<v Speaker 3>and he also proved why some people aren't at JPL

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<v Speaker 3>in Pasadena building rockets and comparing today's players to those

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<v Speaker 3>who had the temerity to live and play in the

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01:11:54.159 --> 01:11:58.279
<v Speaker 3>association before him. Edwards said, and I quote, I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>watch it back in the day, so I can't speak

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<v Speaker 3>on it. They say it was tougher back then than

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<v Speaker 3>it is now, but I don't think anybody had skill

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<v Speaker 3>back then, unquote, Edwards goes on to say, Michael was

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<v Speaker 3>the only one who had skill. Now everybody has skilled. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's why Detroit and Washington Portland were so great this year,

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<v Speaker 3>isn't it, Dick. They had so much skill on those teams.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if he ever saw any film of guys

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<v Speaker 3>like I don't know, Bill Russell, Will Chamberlain, Jerry West,

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<v Speaker 3>Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdil Jabbar, Larry Byrd, etcetera, etcetera.

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<v Speaker 1>No, the answer is no, and there's no excuse because

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<v Speaker 1>if he really wants to be a student literally of

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<v Speaker 1>the game, that thing in his hand, that phone, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the gate to all kinds of stuff on YouTube. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you could sit here Gary all night and mention the

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<v Speaker 1>players we have quote unquote skill. But what he would

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<v Speaker 1>see if he bothered to look, is it was skilled

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<v Speaker 1>match with physicality. The game today is not nearly as

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<v Speaker 1>brutally tough as it was back in the day when

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<v Speaker 1>Larry Bird and Doctor j got into a fistfight and

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<v Speaker 1>neither was ejected from the game. The Bad Boy Pistons.

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen the video Leam Beer Jabbar clocking Kent Benson.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean no, this young man has got skills, but

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<v Speaker 1>oration is not one of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think, and that's endemic for a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>younger Yeah, general back in the day to him as

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<v Speaker 3>the nineties. Well, and plus I used to get it

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<v Speaker 3>at the radio station. You know, it's like the Beatles.

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<v Speaker 3>What was that great about the Beatles? Okay, there's the

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<v Speaker 3>door right there. Let it hit you where the good

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<v Speaker 3>Lord split you? Okay, see you.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. We'll come back and talk more sports. But Geary,

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<v Speaker 1>our Western Bureau chief here in just a minute. Hot

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<v Speaker 1>Reed's on the way on six thirty WLAP.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>We're with our West End bureau chief, Gary Moore. We've

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<v Speaker 1>gone through two guys in a six back, couple of

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<v Speaker 1>hot reds to throw at Gary. We were reminiscing about

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<v Speaker 1>the good old days before the break. How about this

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN is bringing back the granddaddy of them all, the

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<v Speaker 1>sports reporters. That's the show that got all these talking

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<v Speaker 1>head fests going sports writers sitting around in a semi

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01:14:11.920 --> 01:14:15.960
<v Speaker 1>circle basically talking about topics of the week and not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily shouting at each other. Gary so great. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>when they dropped it. I'm like, what, Yeah, Well, now

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01:14:23.520 --> 01:14:28.199
<v Speaker 1>they're talking about bringing it back, but streaming only. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>a worldwide leader can't get out of its own way,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they're so obsessed with these shows where you've got

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<v Speaker 3>ex athletes yelling at each other, yeah, over nothing that matters.

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<v Speaker 3>And we've talked about this before. It's like the dog

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01:14:38.920 --> 01:14:41.560
<v Speaker 3>chasing his tail, going around and around, not accomplishing anything,

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<v Speaker 3>not making any points. It's all just conjecture and opinion

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<v Speaker 3>and all that. But I enjoyed that show. I enjoyed

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<v Speaker 3>like hearing somebody like a Mike Lupica from New York

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01:14:49.720 --> 01:14:52.920
<v Speaker 3>talk about certain things and get the load down, and God,

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01:14:52.960 --> 01:14:54.399
<v Speaker 3>you got to do it while we still have some

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<v Speaker 3>sports reporters at some of these papers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I agree, But like I said, it was

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<v Speaker 1>the one that got things started, and for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>they dropped it. Our second high raid about the WNBA,

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<v Speaker 1>which took a break during the Paris Olympics and then

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<v Speaker 1>came right back with a fever. If you will, Kaitlin

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<v Speaker 1>Clark in the Indiana Fever. They beat Seattle on ABC Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>and Gary averaged two point two to three million viewers.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the fifth largest audience for the league over the

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<v Speaker 1>past twenty years plus, and all four events ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>it took place this season. Gee, I guess Caitlyn Clark

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<v Speaker 1>does have something to do with it. And I renew

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<v Speaker 1>my objections over the way she's being treated, like her

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<v Speaker 1>or not. If you're ANWNBA player, you need to embrace

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<v Speaker 1>her because she's putting money in your pocket. Does that

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<v Speaker 1>surprise you those numbers?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it doesn't. And a lot of people who are

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<v Speaker 3>going against her need to wake the f up. She

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<v Speaker 3>is and I've said this before, the Taylor Swift of basketball,

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<v Speaker 3>not just men's but of all basketball. She's bringing in

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<v Speaker 3>people who normally wouldn't give a rats rump to watch

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<v Speaker 3>women's basketball. Well, they want to see her. There's something

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<v Speaker 3>about her. She is this social zeitgeist, if you want

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<v Speaker 3>to put it that way, that's bringing people in there.

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<v Speaker 3>They haven't had this kind of excitement ever in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 3>They've had some great players, obviously, and they've had some

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<v Speaker 3>good teams that have gotten some ratings, but nothing to

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<v Speaker 3>this level. And it's great. I think she's a great

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<v Speaker 3>ambassador for not just women's basketball, but basketball period and sports.

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<v Speaker 3>And she's really great with young women and young girls.

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<v Speaker 3>They all love her. It doesn't matter what color you

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<v Speaker 3>are either.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, yeah you know, And a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the WNBA veterans are saying, we were playing here long

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<v Speaker 1>before she got here. Yeah yeah, yeah, what were you

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<v Speaker 1>drawing numbers? Some of the African American players are saying

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<v Speaker 1>this is only because she's white. Well maybe that's so,

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<v Speaker 1>but money's green. And again it's going into your account.

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<v Speaker 1>So be a good business woman. And I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>keep your mouth shut, say whatever you want, but be

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01:17:00.239 --> 01:17:03.880
<v Speaker 1>sure you cash that check because it's a rising tide

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<v Speaker 1>lifting everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, She's not just another player. She's the greatest scorer

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<v Speaker 3>ever in college basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't leave that out men or women. So there

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<v Speaker 3>is a market for this person to come to your

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<v Speaker 3>town and see what we got to go see Caitlin Clark.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the key word. That's the key word marketing,

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<v Speaker 1>no question about it. Gary Moore is our West End bureauchie.

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<v Speaker 1>We visit with him each and every week and you

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<v Speaker 1>can find him on X.

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<v Speaker 3>At at nine five five. Gary, you're also on that thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you again? That's a big booing cider one.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, So enjoy enjoy your college football I will

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<v Speaker 1>see it. That'll do it. Thanks to my guest Gary Moore,

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Woods, Chris Fisher, that's it. Good night from the

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<v Speaker 1>garage and lexingon.

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<v Speaker 4>What you've just said is one of the most insanely

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<v Speaker 4>idiotic things I have ever heard.

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<v Speaker 3>At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you

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<v Speaker 3>even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened

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<v Speaker 3>to it.

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<v Speaker 4>I award you no points, and may God have mercy

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<v Speaker 4>on your soul.
