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<v Speaker 1>And welcome on board everybody to another edition of mid Rats.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate y'all taking time to join us today, and

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<v Speaker 1>we already have a cabal of folks who are joining

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<v Speaker 1>are so inclined, Kent's already done it, go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>roll into the chat room in the course of today's show.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a maritime melee show, which means we have

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<v Speaker 1>our list of things we want to talk about, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're always interested in what you have as well, So

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<v Speaker 1>in the chat room is a great place for you

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<v Speaker 1>to go ahead and put those comments in there. Also

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<v Speaker 1>want to make the altar call. If you don't already,

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<v Speaker 1>after a couple of weeks break Mark and I were

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<v Speaker 1>back and I just wanted to kick it off because

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<v Speaker 1>this is the day before the eleventh day of the

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<v Speaker 1>eleventh month that we call Veterans Day, so on behalf

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<v Speaker 1>of the two veterans who do this little podcast and

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<v Speaker 1>for all of our buddies who are out there as well,

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<v Speaker 1>a happy Veterans Day. And also I do this on

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<v Speaker 1>a not irregular basis. And I don't know why, Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's my anglophilia, but I've always liked the way that

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<v Speaker 1>the Commonwealth Nations, led by the mother country, Great Britain,

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<v Speaker 1>how they do Remembrance Day. It's a much more sober,

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<v Speaker 1>a much more serious, more different theme too. It's more

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<v Speaker 1>in line with the American Memorial Day, except again it's

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<v Speaker 1>a much more somber and serious organization and not an

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<v Speaker 1>excuse to go to the beach and go off this summer.

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<v Speaker 1>So for all my all our friends in the anglosphere

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<v Speaker 1>wearing their red poppies, I hope you have a good

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<v Speaker 1>Remembrance Day. Besides that, hey, we all survived the election

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<v Speaker 1>here on the Eastern Seaboard, didn't we mark.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we did. And by the way, as long as

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<v Speaker 2>we're congratulating view, we got to congratulate to US Marine

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<v Speaker 2>Corps on their ten millionth birthday whatever it is. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of good people marines and they deserve to

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy a birthday celebration.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know is that is that who or yut

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<v Speaker 1>or what is that?

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<v Speaker 2>For the Marines.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's always a great way to get him started.

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<v Speaker 2>I speak, I speak limited marine. Well, buy him a

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<v Speaker 2>whole in your box of crayons the next time we

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<v Speaker 2>wait takes some mount.

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<v Speaker 1>For dinner work. Yeah, I can't survive their physical training

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<v Speaker 1>requirements anyway, so I'm just always nice of the Marines.

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<v Speaker 1>They're good in a bar fight.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I should tell you that listeners that

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<v Speaker 2>Sally is having some technical difficulties with his as usual

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<v Speaker 2>with his not so if he just leaves, If he

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<v Speaker 2>just leaves, you'll hear me tab dancing. Well, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>worry when.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep I popped out for a second. Apologies to the listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>I've i've, i've reset circuit breakers, did the atheon reset

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<v Speaker 1>and my whole it spectrum, but for some reason it

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<v Speaker 1>keeps popping out for a few seconds of time. So

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully that doesn't bother many folks today. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of the things we were going to

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<v Speaker 2>discuss is the effect of the of the election. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, of course, we don't know yet who these

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<v Speaker 2>secretary of Defense will be uh or who and what

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<v Speaker 2>the fallout is going to be from the the on

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<v Speaker 2>the Department of the Navy and the other service branches.

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<v Speaker 2>But in this last iteration, President Trump was indicated a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of pro Navy stuff, and I hope we get

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<v Speaker 2>after a long stint of Army people running the show. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we need to talk about a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 2>But one of the things I wanted to bring up

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<v Speaker 2>is the first. The first thing is not to make

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<v Speaker 2>any serious blood and to not show yourself in the

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<v Speaker 2>foot with the decisions you make. And that includes, in

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<v Speaker 2>my mind right now, things not undoing some damages that

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<v Speaker 2>we've chosen to do to ourselves, which includes the theoretical

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<v Speaker 2>closing of the Red Hill Orange Oil Storage Facility fuel

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<v Speaker 2>storage facility in Hawaii, and I would highly recommend that

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<v Speaker 2>they not do that because that is vital to our

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<v Speaker 2>efforts in the Western Pacific to have a source closer

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<v Speaker 2>doing to decommission, it has not gone far enough that

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<v Speaker 2>they can't be undone and at least keep it undone.

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<v Speaker 2>The closure undone until we get an adequate replacement that

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<v Speaker 2>has a similar, if not greater capacity, because it's absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's one of those things that it for

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<v Speaker 1>those that know, they know that it's much more port

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<v Speaker 1>and the intention it's getting and whether you're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>on the edge of living memory. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how many volumes of books have been written about

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<v Speaker 1>the failure of the Japanese to hit our fuel storage

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<v Speaker 1>in Hawaii. You know, they never did their third wave,

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<v Speaker 1>which they should have done. That really gave us the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to kick things off in the Pacific War. And

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<v Speaker 1>also there's a reason why the Ukrainians are attacking the

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<v Speaker 1>Russian fuel infrastructure here. You can't fight without fuel, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing out there that can replace what's happening in

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<v Speaker 1>Red Hills and Red Hills was a failure of leadership, management, inspections,

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<v Speaker 1>all the usual problems. Anybody that's lived in Hawaii knows

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<v Speaker 1>what that's like. That that should not be a reason

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<v Speaker 1>why we should put our nation at strategic risk. We

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<v Speaker 1>can clean it up and do it right. Nothing they

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<v Speaker 1>can replace it right now. We just need to just

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<v Speaker 1>do what needs to be done. Let the usual suspects

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<v Speaker 1>in Hawaii. I yell, all they want to but you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta do what you gotta do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a really good GEO report where I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to link to in the chat room on Redhill, and

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<v Speaker 2>what you one of the main things you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get if you look at that is that there was

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<v Speaker 2>the chain of command for that facility was way too complicated.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, most of the times you you have a facility,

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<v Speaker 2>you want one one group in charge, one person you

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<v Speaker 2>can run of the whole show. And that really isn't

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<v Speaker 2>the way it worked. And they were using contractors, and

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<v Speaker 2>the contractors screwed up, and you know, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of there's a lot of blame to go around, but

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<v Speaker 2>it isn't it isn't necessary to point fingers at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>It's necessary to keep the thing alive until we find

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<v Speaker 2>a way to replace it and if we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>replace it, and one of the other things, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as as long as I'm on the theme of let's

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<v Speaker 2>not shoot ourselves in the foot, I saw the other

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<v Speaker 2>day that a discussion about not putting some of the

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<v Speaker 2>anti ballistic and other defenses on Guam because we seem

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<v Speaker 2>to have some kind of budget issues. Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that GWAM is a pretty important place in

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<v Speaker 2>the scheme of things for the defense of the western

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<v Speaker 2>of our Western Pacific friends and our own asset am

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<v Speaker 2>a GWAM that the trust territory is the Pacific. There

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot of American citizens out there who who

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<v Speaker 2>deserve to be protected, and to do it to deny

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<v Speaker 2>them that protection because we spent a lot of money

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<v Speaker 2>on and you can you can name your wherever you

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<v Speaker 2>think miss the current administration has sent money they shouldn't have.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that that is not a good reason to

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<v Speaker 2>to not fully fund the effort to protect that that island,

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<v Speaker 2>which is vital to our national security. And and as

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<v Speaker 2>longer on that line, I mean as we need to

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<v Speaker 2>really take a hard look at to spit at reopening

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the facilities we had available to eas

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<v Speaker 2>during World War Two. And we'll talk about that a

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<v Speaker 2>little later, but you know, we need to relook at

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<v Speaker 2>what we're doing on the on the whole the Alaskan

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<v Speaker 2>Aleutian Island chain, and we need to look at the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, places like mid Midway and Wake and Johnson,

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<v Speaker 2>the toll and and a lot of these other places

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<v Speaker 2>that we used to used to have as seaplane bases

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<v Speaker 2>and other things that see see what would be useful

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<v Speaker 2>in today's modern with today's modern technology in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was one of the great things to see

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<v Speaker 1>earlier this year is they're reclaiming the airfield tenion just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, right along the lines of what you mentioned there,

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<v Speaker 1>which is exactly what we we need to do. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I put in the in the show chat a link

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<v Speaker 1>to a substack of mind from the fourth where I

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<v Speaker 1>addressed the anti ballistic missile problem and a few options

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<v Speaker 1>out there about GUAM. It's a serious issue and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not being addressed in the serious manner. And one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I worry about is analysis paralysis. We need to

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<v Speaker 1>not We don't have the luxury of saying we'll make

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<v Speaker 1>a decision in physical year twenty thirty and we'll start

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<v Speaker 1>doing something in fyscal year thirty, you know, twenty thirty

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<v Speaker 1>two now, where we've wasted too much time doing things

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<v Speaker 1>like that. We just need to take action, and you've

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<v Speaker 1>outlined a few that are right there. We have CBS

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<v Speaker 1>for a reason, and it's time to move forward and

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<v Speaker 1>to take action. One thing for this election. That's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be interesting. We're already starting to see some of

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<v Speaker 1>the players that may be coming in to the new

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<v Speaker 1>Trump administration because people are policy. One of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that I saw there are people who are having their

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<v Speaker 1>profile raised significantly. Earlier this year, we had Bridge Coleby

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<v Speaker 1>on here at mid Rats and he's grown up to

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<v Speaker 1>the big leagues. He just did an over hour long

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<v Speaker 1>interview with Tucker Carlson, who has the ear of the

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<v Speaker 1>senior leaders in this administration. Bridge, I would encourage and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll put a link on the show page for the

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<v Speaker 1>mid Rats we had him on and for the Tucker

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<v Speaker 1>interview he recently did. I caught bits and pieces of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you are also seeing other serious people that are

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<v Speaker 1>going to make some changes in these bold faced areas

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<v Speaker 1>from what we've seen in the last few years. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking Israel, Ukraine, NATO, China, what's happening in the

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<v Speaker 1>Red Sea. As as people come on board, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to see who's going to be advising the president, and

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be able to find a paper trail on that.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I didn't expect to see. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>whether you had a chance to look at it. Yet

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll post posting the chat and on the show

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<v Speaker 1>page as well. His President Trump had some very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>ideas about what he wanted to do, which you know

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<v Speaker 1>is killing hundreds of thousands of American citizens, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the drug cartels in northern Mexico. I got some of

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<v Speaker 1>the quotes from the video was and this was President Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>time for America to wage war on the cartels. It

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<v Speaker 1>will be the policy of the United States to take

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<v Speaker 1>on the cartels just like we took down isis a

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<v Speaker 1>full naval blockade of the cartel, special Forces cyber war

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<v Speaker 1>and defining them as a foreign terrorist organization. And the

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<v Speaker 1>lawyers in the group, you'all can start pulling us code

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<v Speaker 1>empty squad that are triggered by those types of words.

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<v Speaker 1>That's something close to home that will be very interest

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<v Speaker 1>team to watch flesh out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I did see that, and I think it's, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's a huge challenge there because it's we

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<v Speaker 2>also have to make keep peace with Mexico. Not that

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<v Speaker 2>they post much of themselves, post much of a threat

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<v Speaker 2>to us, but they are they are have been over

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<v Speaker 2>the years of fairly good neighbor. It's you know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>uh and armed forces, you've got some real issues. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's so much money in the cartels and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty good job of catching some of the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>coming up from from South America. But you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the Customs guys both to the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and some other aircraft. But uh, you know that that's

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<v Speaker 2>a that's an interesting group of people, and they did

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<v Speaker 2>long as a demand, it's not just a matter of

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<v Speaker 2>the demand. And you know, it's our friends in China

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<v Speaker 2>know that isn't That's another thing is we've got to

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<v Speaker 2>stop the flow of stuff from China. And it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you've seen all the zombies on this on the streets

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's just it's just a problem that really

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<v Speaker 2>this particular Chinese effort perhaps, you know, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>intentional to weaken the United States. So, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Chris, Chris Chappie, who does a YouTube channel for

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<v Speaker 1>page later as well. I was about to look it

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<v Speaker 1>up right now, but get distracted. We need to focus

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<v Speaker 1>on our conversation. He had a video that came out

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<v Speaker 1>about the cartel. Where As Chris does he's got a

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<v Speaker 1>at your research. But there is there's a war going

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<v Speaker 1>on right now, a civil war inside the Cineela pronouncing

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<v Speaker 1>that correctly cartel that the Mexican military, which is really

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<v Speaker 1>here north of the border. I know the new president Steinbaum,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever her name is in Mexico doesn't give the appearance

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<v Speaker 1>to somebody who's all that pro American, But there might

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<v Speaker 1>be a convergence of interests here. If the Mexican government

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<v Speaker 1>against the cartels, that it might actually be a good

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<v Speaker 1>time that we can work together, especially with the intel

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<v Speaker 1>assets that we have in place, because if you're still

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<v Speaker 1>Fitanol has done in the last decade to people. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's there's a lot of danger there because we've all

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<v Speaker 1>been part of, you know, the mowing the ocean and

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<v Speaker 1>the Caribbean and the Eastern Pacific. That I wouldn't say

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<v Speaker 1>it's futile, but it's got limited benefit that there are

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<v Speaker 1>other ways that you can interdict at the source the

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<v Speaker 1>actual production of these incredibly nightmare drugs. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>long time from Jimmy Buffett's pirate running grass and an

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<v Speaker 1>old shrimp boat. Are you know? Cocaine cowboys dropping kilos

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<v Speaker 1>out of the window, driving flying over Texas. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a whole different ballgame, and it also flows together really well.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been a really good reporting on this. If you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it the last four years, the huge influx of

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<v Speaker 1>illegal immigrants into the United States. They're not coming there

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<v Speaker 1>on their own. The cartels own the northern part of Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>They're paying money to the cartels. They've made billions and

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<v Speaker 1>billions of dollars off of that. So by securing our

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<v Speaker 1>smuggling people across the border in the in the millions,

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<v Speaker 1>that also will constrict one of the income sources from

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<v Speaker 1>the cartel. And for those parts of the border that

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<v Speaker 1>aren't yet secure of what they've been able to do

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<v Speaker 1>is you overload the border patrol with ten thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>coming through Eagle Pass, Texas, and then you can run

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<v Speaker 1>your fittinol forty miles to the west through the desert

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody's going to catch them. So there's some synergy

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<v Speaker 1>there of a few policies that can be changed that

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<v Speaker 1>it really is a national security issue. It's more than

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<v Speaker 1>just just drug control. It's it's a cancer on our

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<v Speaker 1>larger society. And if we can control the supply coming in,

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<v Speaker 1>then some smarter people will have to work on why

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, President Shinebaum, I think it is the coach, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>She She has had at least one call with President

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<v Speaker 2>to elect Trump and apparently it was cordial. So we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see how this goes. But you know, the first problem

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<v Speaker 2>Mexico has is admitting they have a problem. Could use

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<v Speaker 2>some help. And you know, any a joint task force

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<v Speaker 2>be uh combined, combined to ask words right would be

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<v Speaker 2>would be a good idea. If we're gonna uh, it

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<v Speaker 2>would be better to be invited than to then to

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<v Speaker 1>In military to military would be a good way to

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<v Speaker 1>approach it because One of the things that Chris Chiappie

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<v Speaker 1>of the first things they do is they surround the

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<v Speaker 1>local police headquarters and disarm the police because the civilian

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<v Speaker 1>talk about interagency law enforcement, Okay, you're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>civilian police people south of the border. To me, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just an invitation for intel leakage and all sorts of problems.

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<v Speaker 1>If we can find a way to have it military

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<v Speaker 1>But people know that there's not You're not having a

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, again, it's gonna really depend on I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>and the new Secretary of Defense are gonna have some

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<v Speaker 2>in the way things work, especially if you if if

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<v Speaker 2>so called swamp, then you know they're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna have an uphill fight against a lot of resistance.

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<v Speaker 2>And that meeting that was reported where somebody was, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what do we do if he I'm not sure what

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<v Speaker 2>in the content that you know, we never know because

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<v Speaker 2>what do we do if he decides the US US

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<v Speaker 2>military to help round up the illegal immigrants and ship

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<v Speaker 2>them out? And you know that that whole meeting of

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<v Speaker 2>senior people, I assume pretty disturbing and it bodes not

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<v Speaker 2>well for a smooth implementation of policies that the President

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<v Speaker 1>If that's going to be I think a defining point

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<v Speaker 1>in the first year of the administration. I pointed out

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<v Speaker 1>earlier this week that in a fifty to fifty nation,

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<v Speaker 1>you would hope that the people who populate our bureaucracy

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<v Speaker 1>for our government for all the people would roughly represent

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<v Speaker 1>the people within a couple of standard deviations. So you

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<v Speaker 1>would hope that the voters in Maryland, Northern Virginia, and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty to fifty when they vote, but sixty forty would

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<v Speaker 1>be fine. You know, sixty five something like that would

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<v Speaker 1>would be okay. But when you look at at the

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<v Speaker 1>election results in Washington, d C. I'm maybe off a

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<v Speaker 1>percentage point or two, but it doesn't matter ninety three

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<v Speaker 1>percent for President Biden, whether you are pro Biden or

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<v Speaker 1>pro Trump or if those numbers will switched around. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not healthy. So when you have that much of a

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<v Speaker 1>hyperpartisan environment where you have a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 1>they're not used to being around people who have different

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<v Speaker 1>manners kind of what that report has where they're getting together.

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned a few times I live in a metropolitan

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<v Speaker 1>It's a fifty to fifty metropolitan area. Everybody gets along here.

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<v Speaker 1>There are no riots, there are no threats. Everything's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody gets along here because you're you drive down a street,

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<v Speaker 1>that that makes for a healthy environment. That's not healthy

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<v Speaker 1>in Washington, DC when you have ninety three percent all

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<v Speaker 1>for one political party. We see that manifested in some

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<v Speaker 1>of the trials and the jury selections and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But how they address those people in the bureaucracy that

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<v Speaker 1>are not willing to do their job still because they're

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<v Speaker 1>hyper political. There's going to have to be accountability. There's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be some person health action. There has to be,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to make examples of people. If I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care what your personal politics are, If you have

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<v Speaker 1>a legal order, you execute it. You and I both

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<v Speaker 1>have have served under different political administrations, and I've been

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<v Speaker 1>given orders by Republicans and Democrats, some of which I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>over the yeah, I think I think you're right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it was. It was one of those stunny fears.

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<v Speaker 2>I live in a state capital, and you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five thirty five Democrat in this in this particular area,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the reds, the Reds prevailed, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at one point on where it went or how you

420
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<v Speaker 2>would do it, about not letting I mean making d

421
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<v Speaker 2>C much smaller and and putting the residential areas of

422
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<v Speaker 2>d c UH into the states surrounding them, rather than

423
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<v Speaker 2>having and and then not having anybody be able to

424
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<v Speaker 2>live in the district of Columbia itself, so that the

425
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<v Speaker 2>people would be wouldn't be quite as one sided as

426
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<v Speaker 2>it seems to be right now. I don't know how

427
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<v Speaker 2>you would do that where we go, but it's an

428
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<v Speaker 2>interesting thought, one of those things where you go, well,

429
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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, if it's that biased, what is how

430
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<v Speaker 2>is this going to work exactly?

431
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<v Speaker 1>I've also been interested to see how the inauguration hasn't

432
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<v Speaker 1>even taken place yet, but we've already seen on the

433
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<v Speaker 1>international stage some preliminary movements, Cutter told Hamas, but we'll

434
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<v Speaker 1>have to actually see if it takes place. Told them

435
00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:36.599
<v Speaker 1>that they need to go find and do home, which

436
00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:40.640
<v Speaker 1>would be nice to see. And the European Union, I

437
00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:42.240
<v Speaker 1>believe it or not, is still getting a lot of

438
00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:48.279
<v Speaker 1>their hydrocarbons looquified natural gas from Russia. Realizes that now

439
00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:52.759
<v Speaker 1>they have a hydrocarb and friendly administration on the way

440
00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:56.440
<v Speaker 1>that maybe they can make nice with the US by

441
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<v Speaker 1>buying r LNG. I think at least our audience we

442
00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:03.440
<v Speaker 1>would just be happy if the rest of the Alliance

443
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<v Speaker 1>would spend the bare bare minimum of two percent of

444
00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:10.119
<v Speaker 1>their GDP on communal defense as opposed to buying our LNG.

445
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<v Speaker 1>But it's it's interesting when things that you would hope

446
00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:20.880
<v Speaker 1>that nations would do on their own, they don't do

447
00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:23.519
<v Speaker 1>it unless they feel like Uncle Sam is going to

448
00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:26.079
<v Speaker 1>have a slightly different attitude in seventy days.

449
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think we've seen a number of examples of that,

450
00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:32.960
<v Speaker 2>and we've seen number of examples that internally in the

451
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:38.119
<v Speaker 2>US two where suddenly steps have been taken that would

452
00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:40.240
<v Speaker 2>be like cutting off I think was in New York

453
00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:43.519
<v Speaker 2>City right, that they cut off or shortly will cut

454
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<v Speaker 2>off some of the benefits that the immigrants that they're

455
00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:50.440
<v Speaker 2>now housing in hotels and stuff or you know, are getting.

456
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<v Speaker 2>You know that, and that really you don't have to

457
00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:55.240
<v Speaker 2>round people up to send them out. You do need

458
00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:58.839
<v Speaker 2>to cut them off from all the benefits and then

459
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<v Speaker 2>suggest that if they want, believe will provide some kind

460
00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:04.759
<v Speaker 2>of transportation for him out of the country to someplace else.

461
00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:10.119
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I don't I just so many. I

462
00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:13.920
<v Speaker 2>think I think the the a lot of the people

463
00:28:13.960 --> 00:28:16.599
<v Speaker 2>in the in the media things didn't understand how mad

464
00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:22.400
<v Speaker 2>people got about about programs that were obviously incentivizing people

465
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:26.440
<v Speaker 2>to be in the in the country illegally, and and

466
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:30.519
<v Speaker 2>and other programs like the student loan waivers for people

467
00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:34.200
<v Speaker 2>you know who who's gonna if if they don't That's

468
00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:36.200
<v Speaker 2>another one was thinking of, if if they don't want

469
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:39.119
<v Speaker 2>to pay their own student loans, why should Joe the plumber,

470
00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:41.000
<v Speaker 2>of course, who now probably makes more than they will

471
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:43.960
<v Speaker 2>ever make in their life lives anyway, But or you know,

472
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:46.440
<v Speaker 2>the the the guy who's changing your royal down at

473
00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Bolina where we get your royal at Tangent, why why

474
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:51.880
<v Speaker 2>should he or she be paying for their paying off

475
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:54.839
<v Speaker 2>their student loans because they were They didn't encoura any

476
00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:57.000
<v Speaker 2>of those things. I just you know, I think a

477
00:28:57.039 --> 00:28:59.880
<v Speaker 2>lot of that kind of just got overlooked by by

478
00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:04.640
<v Speaker 2>people on the on the side that lost this last election.

479
00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:07.720
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's one of the one of those

480
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:10.640
<v Speaker 2>other issues. If if you don't cancel this, if you

481
00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:17.519
<v Speaker 2>cancel the student loan grace that mister Biden was supposed

482
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:20.880
<v Speaker 2>to I was trying to invoke. You know, there's a

483
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:22.720
<v Speaker 2>lot of money there is like a you know, not

484
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:24.920
<v Speaker 2>all of them. Remember it's exactly a tree, But a

485
00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:27.119
<v Speaker 2>whole lot of money can be used for for other

486
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:30.319
<v Speaker 2>things that I'm for the American taxpayer, or you know, God,

487
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:32.319
<v Speaker 2>we could pay off the national debt, which has been

488
00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:34.799
<v Speaker 2>wrung up pretty pretty highly, which is why we can't

489
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:37.440
<v Speaker 2>have some of the nice things. But you know that

490
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:40.839
<v Speaker 2>all that as is, I mean, that is politics, and

491
00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:43.799
<v Speaker 2>that's going to be addressed. I assume the other things

492
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:47.880
<v Speaker 2>you and I talk about are the are the defense issues?

493
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:50.559
<v Speaker 2>You know, do we are we going to get tenders

494
00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:52.599
<v Speaker 2>for the ships that we're going to have to deploy?

495
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Are we going to be able to to you know,

496
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:57.000
<v Speaker 2>we're looking at I put up a video the other

497
00:29:57.079 --> 00:30:02.200
<v Speaker 2>day of the imar's reloading process and it's really quick,

498
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:06.640
<v Speaker 2>it is, And I'm thinking, why did the Navy not

499
00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:09.720
<v Speaker 2>think that they ever had to reload those those vertical

500
00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:14.640
<v Speaker 2>launch cells on their on their destroyers and cruisers, And

501
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:18.759
<v Speaker 2>and I think long before now. I mean, I know

502
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:21.759
<v Speaker 2>that we've got some system that seems to be pretty

503
00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:24.759
<v Speaker 2>slow in and of itself, but at least there is

504
00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:27.519
<v Speaker 2>a system coming that may help us solve that problem.

505
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:31.400
<v Speaker 2>But I just am baffled by the by the thinking

506
00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:36.160
<v Speaker 2>that went into that lack of planning for re arming

507
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:39.240
<v Speaker 2>those those ships, you know, especially for the vertical launcher.

508
00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:43.720
<v Speaker 2>So you know, that's why I would say, let's put

509
00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:46.279
<v Speaker 2>Hi Mars in as many things as we can, and

510
00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:48.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, let the Marines play with them. And we've

511
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:50.680
<v Speaker 2>already done this. They put them on EPFs, they put

512
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:54.799
<v Speaker 2>them on amphibs. They can shoot. They they have pretty

513
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:58.119
<v Speaker 2>good accuracy, you know, seventy seventy nautical miles or so.

514
00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:01.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember their new ragne, but you know, there's

515
00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:04.480
<v Speaker 2>no reason not to do that. Let's let's the Marines

516
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:06.640
<v Speaker 2>want to go play in the weeds and and be

517
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:13.240
<v Speaker 2>running around the jungle and be very active in uh

518
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:20.880
<v Speaker 2>in in uh In, being mobile and vicious, and they

519
00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:22.920
<v Speaker 2>need the weapons to do it. So let's let's load

520
00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:25.160
<v Speaker 2>them up with high mars. And the army is doing

521
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:27.640
<v Speaker 2>the same thing that they've adopted the s M six

522
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:32.039
<v Speaker 2>and the Tomahawk for land based anti ship programs. And

523
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:34.160
<v Speaker 2>that's an old mission for the army. I mean, they

524
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:37.880
<v Speaker 2>were the original coast artillery people. So yeah, let's encourage

525
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:40.680
<v Speaker 2>that too. We don't have to we don't always have

526
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:44.039
<v Speaker 2>to buy new aircraft carriers and and uh and big

527
00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:46.440
<v Speaker 2>deck cruisers. If we can if we can spread a

528
00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:49.279
<v Speaker 2>lot of these weapons system around on smaller units. And

529
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:51.079
<v Speaker 2>that's the other thing I would suggest to the new

530
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:54.759
<v Speaker 2>administration is that, you know, you let's not get all

531
00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:58.720
<v Speaker 2>hyper with the big people who want to build more

532
00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:01.519
<v Speaker 2>more carriers. I mean, I think we need replaced carriers,

533
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:04.759
<v Speaker 2>but you know, let's look at small ships with her

534
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:07.799
<v Speaker 2>with the systems like arm mars and other things that

535
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:11.799
<v Speaker 2>can go fast, can be very mobile, hard to target,

536
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:16.319
<v Speaker 2>and yet are very deadly, and let's you know, just

537
00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:19.400
<v Speaker 2>also drone them all up. Let's get more drones. I mean,

538
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:22.519
<v Speaker 2>that's what the cno cur cynos said. Let's you know,

539
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:28.599
<v Speaker 2>we're going to have this snazzy high drone filled systems

540
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:30.759
<v Speaker 2>out there. Well that's great. You know, now people are

541
00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:35.519
<v Speaker 2>finding ways to defeat drones. But let's at least give

542
00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:39.359
<v Speaker 2>ourselves a chance to have these these great big mind

543
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:44.920
<v Speaker 2>laying some surface vessels out there and give us this.

544
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Just keep doing that, Let's keep pursuing that. Let's make

545
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:50.480
<v Speaker 2>things hard on the people who want to cause bad

546
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:51.279
<v Speaker 2>things to happen.

547
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:54.680
<v Speaker 1>And here's here's the thing you're building exactly what you

548
00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:57.279
<v Speaker 1>talk about. And we've touched on this before, but there's

549
00:32:57.319 --> 00:33:00.599
<v Speaker 1>a perfect time to weave it back in and what

550
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:07.079
<v Speaker 1>you're proposing it doesn't require a new program office. It's

551
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:10.039
<v Speaker 1>going to take a decade to do this, And here's

552
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:14.440
<v Speaker 1>something for regulars that can go ahead and take a

553
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:17.559
<v Speaker 1>nitroglyssin pill on it. I want to praise LCS for

554
00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:21.440
<v Speaker 1>a second. A tack ems that Hi Mars carry is

555
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:26.480
<v Speaker 1>a short range ballistic missile. We are spending gobs of

556
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:32.720
<v Speaker 1>money after gobs of money to put conventional prompt strike

557
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:37.319
<v Speaker 1>on three DDG one thousand class ships and all these

558
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:39.960
<v Speaker 1>other items, and those would be great and wonderful, but

559
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:44.960
<v Speaker 1>they're not operational right now, especially the Independence class. LCS

560
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:47.720
<v Speaker 1>has a lot of square footage on the back. Yeah,

561
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:51.759
<v Speaker 1>you want some conventional prop strike. Look at the high mars.

562
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:54.319
<v Speaker 1>What do you need to spray on it to make

563
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:59.359
<v Speaker 1>it salt water robust enough? But there's a great conventional

564
00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:03.039
<v Speaker 1>prompts strike platform that has some reach. You put high

565
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>mars of a tackles on the back. I don't know

566
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>how many you can. We'd have to get Hippo on

567
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:08.960
<v Speaker 1>here to have him make an estimate how many you

568
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:11.480
<v Speaker 1>could strap onto the back of an Independence. Even if

569
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:13.440
<v Speaker 1>you have to give up the helo that might be

570
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:15.519
<v Speaker 1>worth it for the mission. There's your mission module, Hi

571
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Mars boxes, and you also have you're talking about bringing

572
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:23.880
<v Speaker 1>lots of drones. The Chinese and the Iranian steal ideas

573
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:26.920
<v Speaker 1>from us all day. Let's steal their ideas. I think

574
00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:32.599
<v Speaker 1>most people have seen their launch platform for their Shahid

575
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:40.039
<v Speaker 1>is basically a basic connex box that they elevate at

576
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:42.800
<v Speaker 1>forty five degrees, take the lid off of and they

577
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.880
<v Speaker 1>have them stacked in there like so many Pez pellets

578
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:48.119
<v Speaker 1>and a pez dispenser, and I think they have at

579
00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:50.159
<v Speaker 1>least a dozen of them in one of those boxes.

580
00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:55.159
<v Speaker 1>And there goes the flying lawnmower. There are ways that

581
00:34:55.280 --> 00:35:01.039
<v Speaker 1>you can take what we have right now, customize, change,

582
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:05.159
<v Speaker 1>do a modification, and put them on a ship. Is it?

583
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:07.679
<v Speaker 1>Is it? No? But again, we don't have the luxury

584
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>of time for development. If you want, if you want

585
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:13.719
<v Speaker 1>to have something that's spoken, start working on it and

586
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:18.639
<v Speaker 1>it can replace those if you're smart. Little architects are

587
00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:20.239
<v Speaker 1>going to worry about if you're right now in twenty

588
00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:24.119
<v Speaker 1>thirty five, we need something else, and that is highlusion.

589
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:29.039
<v Speaker 1>If we can think outside the box and have somebody

590
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:32.519
<v Speaker 1>that's willing to give the direction and guidance to do that,

591
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:36.400
<v Speaker 1>which is why I'm really looking forward to see who's

592
00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:39.119
<v Speaker 1>going to be the Secretary of Defense, who he gives

593
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:43.440
<v Speaker 1>as the Secretary of the Navy. Look at their background,

594
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>because I think they're going to have, especially on the

595
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Maritimes side of the House, because it's carryover from his

596
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:52.440
<v Speaker 1>first administration. The Navy has a window and an opportunity

597
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:56.239
<v Speaker 1>here to get some leverage and make some big changes

598
00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:59.400
<v Speaker 1>if it has the right people at top that will

599
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:02.800
<v Speaker 1>give those onunderneath them the top cover they need, because

600
00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I know there's both civilian and military people in the

601
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:09.519
<v Speaker 1>bureaucracy who think just like we do. We've we both

602
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:13.320
<v Speaker 1>talked to them, but they don't have the top cover

603
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:16.079
<v Speaker 1>and the orders to go do it. So I think

604
00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:19.239
<v Speaker 1>that there's there's enough people in place that could really

605
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>do some impressive things, especially if from an engineering point

606
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:25.880
<v Speaker 1>of view, if they're told to. It's just they've got

607
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:27.960
<v Speaker 1>to have that civilian leadership that points them in that

608
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:29.920
<v Speaker 1>direction and kicks them in the tail.

609
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think they also have to, you know,

610
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:35.960
<v Speaker 2>they've got to quit thinking this this vessel has to

611
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:39.639
<v Speaker 2>last forty years. They you know, we can we can think, okay,

612
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:42.000
<v Speaker 2>we've got a tenure. When's what will we do if

613
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:43.920
<v Speaker 2>we had ships that only had the last ten years,

614
00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:47.119
<v Speaker 2>because that can be minimally manned. I hate to use

615
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:49.559
<v Speaker 2>that term, but can be you know, small enough that

616
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:53.199
<v Speaker 2>they don't require huge crews that you know that we

617
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:56.880
<v Speaker 2>can you know it just it's the kind of thing

618
00:36:56.920 --> 00:36:59.360
<v Speaker 2>that Admiral Zumwalt talked about when he had the when

619
00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:02.119
<v Speaker 2>he was talking about the kind of the two tier navy,

620
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:06.239
<v Speaker 2>and he wanted the the small, agile forces. That prompted

621
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:10.760
<v Speaker 2>you know that the turl hydrofoils and the and you

622
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:15.199
<v Speaker 2>know all that stuff that that came around, and then

623
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:18.400
<v Speaker 2>that Admal Sabrowski and other people you know also raised

624
00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:22.960
<v Speaker 2>we don't need and of course Captain Hughes, we don't

625
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:25.480
<v Speaker 2>need every ship to be huge, because when you lose

626
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:30.320
<v Speaker 2>a huge destroyer or cruiser, you lose a lot of capacity.

627
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:34.559
<v Speaker 2>But if you lose one PHM, you've lost one PHM

628
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<v Speaker 2>and maybe you know what eight ten missiles. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the the the effectiveness of smaller, heavily armed units and

630
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:48.760
<v Speaker 2>large quantities is significant in the right locations. And I

631
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<v Speaker 2>would think of all the locations, the the area around

632
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:55.760
<v Speaker 2>the Philippines, the area of the South China Sea. Those

633
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:57.360
<v Speaker 2>that's you know, that's that seems to me to be

634
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:02.920
<v Speaker 2>prime turf for some high quality but heavily armed and

635
00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:15.360
<v Speaker 2>networked systems of small units and men friendly sidekicks going

636
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:19.480
<v Speaker 2>out with them. And you mentioned the early.

637
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<v Speaker 1>Tenders and other auxiliaries. We have holes that are already

638
00:38:26.519 --> 00:38:32.000
<v Speaker 1>under production that can be modified to do this mission.

639
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:36.039
<v Speaker 1>There's there's no magic about it. And you know, people

640
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:39.159
<v Speaker 1>who have a short memory, they just think about submarine

641
00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:42.280
<v Speaker 1>tenders like, yeah, we've got to have new submarine tenders,

642
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Roger that I'm talking about destroyer tenders that we can

643
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:53.559
<v Speaker 1>do significant depot level maintenance forward because there's we no

644
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:55.679
<v Speaker 1>longer live in a world where you can safely go

645
00:38:55.760 --> 00:39:00.800
<v Speaker 1>to Yakuska in Japan and get that done because you're

646
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:03.639
<v Speaker 1>you're you're under the gun there. We have to have

647
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:05.480
<v Speaker 1>the ability to do like we did in the last

648
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Great Pacific War, and destroyer tenders are a great way

649
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:12.880
<v Speaker 1>to do that. But again you get into analysis paralysis

650
00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:17.880
<v Speaker 1>with our acquisition system and you'll have you know, a

651
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:20.679
<v Speaker 1>half dozen GS fifteen's come in and tell you why

652
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:22.599
<v Speaker 1>they can't do it as opposed to how it can

653
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<v Speaker 1>be done.

654
00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:30.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think we talked at briefly about this before

655
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:33.239
<v Speaker 2>we started the show. But you know, for me right now,

656
00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:37.559
<v Speaker 2>I would I would go get whatever the constellation, whatever

657
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:40.880
<v Speaker 2>the FREM design from some other navy, couple of them.

658
00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:43.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, Let's buy a couple from the Italians or

659
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:47.960
<v Speaker 2>the or whoever else is using them and play with them,

660
00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:49.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, take our let our people use them as

661
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:52.960
<v Speaker 2>they are currently configured. And then if we can continue

662
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:57.400
<v Speaker 2>with the NAVS version of the Consolation, because it's already

663
00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:00.199
<v Speaker 2>I guess they're already cut steel and stuff, but the

664
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:04.679
<v Speaker 2>next version ought to be based on what the users

665
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<v Speaker 2>find useful in the in the design that the Italians

666
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:15.119
<v Speaker 2>are using. It makes no sense to me to build

667
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:19.639
<v Speaker 2>something because some GS twelve somewhere in NAVSE decided and

668
00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:22.159
<v Speaker 2>we really or somebody else got stuck their finger in

669
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:24.280
<v Speaker 2>the pies of you know, we really need this ship

670
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<v Speaker 2>to have X and Y when there's and that changes

671
00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:31.440
<v Speaker 2>everything on it. So that I am a big you know,

672
00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:33.079
<v Speaker 2>and you have to think short term, you know, we

673
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:36.000
<v Speaker 2>have to let's think we're going to need stuff for

674
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:39.079
<v Speaker 2>the next four or five years, and so let's think

675
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:41.039
<v Speaker 2>what can we do now, what you know, what can

676
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:43.800
<v Speaker 2>we get going? And then and then work from there.

677
00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Then then long range planning kicks in, where we you know,

678
00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:49.320
<v Speaker 2>what does the navy of ten years from now or

679
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:52.000
<v Speaker 2>fifteen years or twenty years from now look like, Because

680
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:53.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's going to look the same as

681
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:56.239
<v Speaker 2>what we have now, because the world has changed a lot.

682
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:00.840
<v Speaker 1>And it's and it's going to a continue to change.

683
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:04.840
<v Speaker 1>And one of the things that nobody really has seen

684
00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the dust on. And again, this is another implication of

685
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:11.840
<v Speaker 1>the election is I mean, Israel has already been kind

686
00:41:11.880 --> 00:41:15.280
<v Speaker 1>of unleashed, but the Trump administration will be even more

687
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:18.079
<v Speaker 1>friendly towards Israel doing what it needs to be done.

688
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:22.159
<v Speaker 1>It's going to make a huge difference because they're going

689
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:25.639
<v Speaker 1>to bring back hardball with the Iranians. I don't see

690
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:28.159
<v Speaker 1>anybody in this administration who wants to go to war

691
00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:31.280
<v Speaker 1>with Iran, but when it comes to putting sanctions back in,

692
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:36.599
<v Speaker 1>going after them financially, going after those who supply them.

693
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:40.599
<v Speaker 1>If you can make Iran worried about her internal issues

694
00:41:41.239 --> 00:41:44.119
<v Speaker 1>because she doesn't have enough money, then that's money that

695
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:48.599
<v Speaker 1>she's not giving to the hu Thies, Hamas, Husbillah and

696
00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:53.239
<v Speaker 1>other organizations. And that's going to be a huge impact

697
00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:56.280
<v Speaker 1>on the Middle East if we can pick up where

698
00:41:56.320 --> 00:42:00.679
<v Speaker 1>the previous Trump administration left off, where slowly but surely

699
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:05.159
<v Speaker 1>getting the Gulf Arab nations in Israel to realize they

700
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:09.000
<v Speaker 1>have a lot more to gain through business and healthcare

701
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:15.639
<v Speaker 1>exchanges and cooperation than they have on multi generational tribal warfare.

702
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:18.800
<v Speaker 1>So that's another part of this by product dis election

703
00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:22.920
<v Speaker 1>that I'm looking forward to seeing is Iran being put

704
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:25.800
<v Speaker 1>back on the back foot where she needs to be

705
00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:30.400
<v Speaker 1>until the Iranian people decide that they want to find

706
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:31.079
<v Speaker 1>a new government.

707
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:35.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that, you know, all those things that

708
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:38.639
<v Speaker 2>happened to the first Trump administration for which they got

709
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:43.599
<v Speaker 2>unlimited amount of credit, Abraham Accords, all that stuff. I mean,

710
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:45.800
<v Speaker 2>we're seeing some of that come back. As you said

711
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:51.280
<v Speaker 2>earlier that when katar the Kataris tell Hamas that they're

712
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:53.559
<v Speaker 2>no longer welcome. Now, you know, I don't know whether

713
00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:55.280
<v Speaker 2>that means that they're just saying that or they're really

714
00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:59.000
<v Speaker 2>going to throw throw them out, but you know, that's

715
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:00.880
<v Speaker 2>a good sign. And that just one of those things

716
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:04.079
<v Speaker 2>that you get when you get a voice that they've

717
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:07.320
<v Speaker 2>heard before, come back into the onto the onto the scene,

718
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:11.039
<v Speaker 2>I would think, you know, and we're seeing that all

719
00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:15.800
<v Speaker 2>over the place. So I think that's good, and I

720
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:18.199
<v Speaker 2>think that you know, we're as we discussed, we've got

721
00:43:18.239 --> 00:43:21.719
<v Speaker 2>CBS and things. I just I'm going to put up

722
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:25.159
<v Speaker 2>a link to the building of the basis during World

723
00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:27.440
<v Speaker 2>War Two in the Pacific because I think it's a

724
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:30.480
<v Speaker 2>germane to the discussion we're having is, you know, we're

725
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:34.639
<v Speaker 2>worried about the missile range of the of the Chinese,

726
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:36.840
<v Speaker 2>and they don't, you know, they don't they don't need

727
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:40.039
<v Speaker 2>to have too great a missile range to hit Guam

728
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:42.960
<v Speaker 2>and and some of the other things we want certainly

729
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:44.840
<v Speaker 2>want to try and defend. But there are a lot

730
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:48.119
<v Speaker 2>of other islands out there that are either US territories

731
00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:52.840
<v Speaker 2>or US I mean actual US property, So you know,

732
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:55.239
<v Speaker 2>we need to look at how we could develop those

733
00:43:55.400 --> 00:44:01.400
<v Speaker 2>if we needed to, to help build our own Great

734
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:07.000
<v Speaker 2>American Wall to stop the Chinese from dominating the Pacific

735
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:10.440
<v Speaker 2>and having too much influence on our friends and neighbors

736
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:14.920
<v Speaker 2>like Australia and New Zealand and in the Japanese because

737
00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:18.559
<v Speaker 2>there's no there's no you know, we have to have

738
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:22.039
<v Speaker 2>good assets available from which to do our own work.

739
00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's gonna be fun. And I've not kept

740
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:34.079
<v Speaker 1>secret the fact that in the main people who are

741
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:38.639
<v Speaker 1>running our foreign policy in the president administration, both National

742
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:43.199
<v Speaker 1>Security Advisor Sullivan and Secretary of State blinking they may

743
00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:47.239
<v Speaker 1>be they probably are well intentioned people who are just wrong,

744
00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:51.280
<v Speaker 1>but they've been disasters. And the fact that we're going

745
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:55.960
<v Speaker 1>to have some turnover in the next seventy days I

746
00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:58.119
<v Speaker 1>think it is or sixty eight days, whatever it is,

747
00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:04.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm yeah, yeah, and that's absolutely critical. And of course

748
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:10.159
<v Speaker 1>Secretary of Defense Austin he should have something, somebody else

749
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:12.559
<v Speaker 1>should have taken his place after the events in Doubles.

750
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:17.719
<v Speaker 1>So again, done lots of service for his country. I'm

751
00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:20.159
<v Speaker 1>sure he's won intention but he was the wrong person

752
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:23.480
<v Speaker 1>in the wrong job. I think the record proves it

753
00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:27.159
<v Speaker 1>as such. And I think for those that look back

754
00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:30.519
<v Speaker 1>at the first Trump administration, they just didn't get their footage,

755
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:35.760
<v Speaker 1>their footage they're footing early on because for a variety

756
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:38.480
<v Speaker 1>of reasons, it took a while, in some cases almost

757
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:42.639
<v Speaker 1>three years. But yeah, they've been there, they've done that,

758
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:48.880
<v Speaker 1>they've got their people. It's going to move fast. Yeah.

759
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:52.480
<v Speaker 2>I think John Conrad has been banging the drum about

760
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:59.679
<v Speaker 2>the army dominance of the the Defense Department, and you know,

761
00:45:59.880 --> 00:46:02.440
<v Speaker 2>I think it is time to really refocus on the

762
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:05.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad we have the army, and I'm glad just

763
00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:07.599
<v Speaker 2>like I'm glad the our Marines have been around for

764
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:10.360
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and forty nine years. But you know, the

765
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:12.679
<v Speaker 2>Marines are naval force, and we need to have a

766
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:17.119
<v Speaker 2>strong navy because we we have oceans that are our

767
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:20.840
<v Speaker 2>barriers or provide barriers from the bad guys, but we

768
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:23.880
<v Speaker 2>need we also have people who live out in those

769
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:26.559
<v Speaker 2>areas that are being threatened by the by the Chinese

770
00:46:26.599 --> 00:46:29.159
<v Speaker 2>as they as they do their normal thing of that,

771
00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:31.239
<v Speaker 2>they just decided to rename a bunch of islands in

772
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:34.360
<v Speaker 2>the South China Sea. They call them our islands, and

773
00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:37.320
<v Speaker 2>and and you know, you know how that goes. And

774
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:39.480
<v Speaker 2>now that we've declared them to be ours, everybody else

775
00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:41.519
<v Speaker 2>has to comply with what we say. I mean, they're

776
00:46:41.639 --> 00:46:46.800
<v Speaker 2>they're just they're constantly boiling the frog. They trap you

777
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:51.519
<v Speaker 2>into thinking they're going to be law abiden and then

778
00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:54.960
<v Speaker 2>they decided they get to choose which laws they're going

779
00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:55.480
<v Speaker 2>to abide to.

780
00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:01.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, they've got the body who is going to encourage

781
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:03.599
<v Speaker 1>some aggressive negotiation.

782
00:47:03.199 --> 00:47:05.400
<v Speaker 2>And there's again.

783
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:10.400
<v Speaker 1>He's going to have some people coming into the State

784
00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Department that I think probably some of their first actions

785
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:19.519
<v Speaker 1>is going to be focusing internally the people that I've

786
00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:22.639
<v Speaker 1>been reading and listening to who may or may not

787
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:25.199
<v Speaker 1>be the next Secretary of State. I don't know who

788
00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:27.840
<v Speaker 1>it is, but I know who they read and who

789
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:31.039
<v Speaker 1>they talk to. They're very aware of the problems that

790
00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:33.280
<v Speaker 1>we've discussed here through the years about the Department of

791
00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:38.519
<v Speaker 1>State and their permanent class. And with the Republicans having

792
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:42.639
<v Speaker 1>power in both the House and the Senate, I think

793
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:46.480
<v Speaker 1>that gives them a little bit of a window here

794
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:50.880
<v Speaker 1>because the executive branch can do a lot and executive

795
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:55.880
<v Speaker 1>orders whatever, but those can be overturned when the change

796
00:47:55.920 --> 00:47:59.519
<v Speaker 1>seats again. But if you really want to make change

797
00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:05.320
<v Speaker 1>that has teeth and has legs, got to go through

798
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:10.360
<v Speaker 1>the legislative branch, and the State Department is really overdue

799
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:14.639
<v Speaker 1>for that. I think there is a I haven't done

800
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the whip count, but I think there is a critical

801
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:19.920
<v Speaker 1>mass of people in the House from both parties and

802
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:25.360
<v Speaker 1>the Senate in both parties, who are willing to make

803
00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:28.760
<v Speaker 1>some changes about our staff and our bureaucracy, and if

804
00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:30.159
<v Speaker 1>they want to get ahead of the game, that's what

805
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:32.519
<v Speaker 1>they'll do, if they want to be smart about it.

806
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:35.679
<v Speaker 1>Because that's one thing that's been really apparent in the

807
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:40.199
<v Speaker 1>last week is how much attacking the bureaucracy is going

808
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:42.800
<v Speaker 1>to be not in just the national security arena, but

809
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:46.280
<v Speaker 1>a general theme of the next administration. And there's a

810
00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:49.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of frustration with how the Pentagon and the Department

811
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:52.559
<v Speaker 1>in Navy works. So people that have had those ideas

812
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:56.639
<v Speaker 1>in their bottom drawer might be time to take it out,

813
00:48:56.800 --> 00:49:00.119
<v Speaker 1>dust it off, find somebody who has access to the

814
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:02.719
<v Speaker 1>lever of power and introduce them to your ideas, because

815
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:05.920
<v Speaker 1>you may have a window to actually affect some positive

816
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:09.599
<v Speaker 1>change here in the next twenty four months before we're

817
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:14.920
<v Speaker 1>looking at the twenty twenty sixth election cycle. Yeah.

818
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, sorry, my dog is trying to get double fed.

819
00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:23.440
<v Speaker 2>He's good at that. Yeah, you know, And as we've

820
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:26.679
<v Speaker 2>pointed out, though, the issue was trying to overcome the

821
00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:31.280
<v Speaker 2>resistance movement of you know, no, this is this is

822
00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:34.360
<v Speaker 2>not what I studied when I was at Georgetown or

823
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:38.199
<v Speaker 2>or wherever these people American University or where these people

824
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:40.800
<v Speaker 2>come from. And so I can't I can't agree to it.

825
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:44.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, it's just it's like trying to

826
00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:48.840
<v Speaker 2>explain economics to people who just think money appears magically

827
00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:52.400
<v Speaker 2>out of the air. And you know, they don't recognize

828
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:58.239
<v Speaker 2>that taxpayer toiling away at some job making diesel engine

829
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:00.920
<v Speaker 2>in some places is the one footing the bill for

830
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:05.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of their randiose ideas that were developed an

831
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:10.119
<v Speaker 2>academia and have no correlation with reality.

832
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:16.559
<v Speaker 1>Modern modern military, modern monetary theory. There are there is

833
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:20.719
<v Speaker 1>a critical mass of people who do think money you

834
00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:23.039
<v Speaker 1>can just you can just print the money. You can

835
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:25.199
<v Speaker 1>just print the money. They've been kind of quiet the

836
00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:28.800
<v Speaker 1>last thirty six months, but they are still there. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know President Trump has our President elect Trump, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the correct term is to use it, and this inflection

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<v Speaker 1>point he's talked about the towards the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>Rogan podcast, he actually talked about wanting to address government

841
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<v Speaker 1>spending in the deficits. We'll see how that works house.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would do one little bit of caution as

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<v Speaker 1>we're coming near the top of the hour, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>non zero chance that the top line number for defense

845
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<v Speaker 1>isn't going to grow above inflation all that much, if

846
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<v Speaker 1>that becomes part of the agenda, and that's where things

847
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<v Speaker 1>get interesting. If the pie isn't going to grow significantly,

848
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<v Speaker 1>then you've got to make decisions about how you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to change the allocation in that pie. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about compromise. Who's going to be part of

851
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<v Speaker 1>that negotiation, who's going to run that table? And again

852
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<v Speaker 1>that will be who is going to be the Secretary

853
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<v Speaker 1>of Defense. What's their background, what are their biases and

854
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<v Speaker 1>because they're the ones that are probably primarily going to

855
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<v Speaker 1>have the ear of the president. And kind of a

856
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<v Speaker 1>wild card here and we haven't really touched on it,

857
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<v Speaker 1>but I saw a point that I had to appreciate before.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, our friend Claude Bearbay has done lots of

859
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<v Speaker 1>studies on this, but I think the incoming Vice President JD. Vance,

860
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<v Speaker 1>he's the first going to be the first president or

861
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<v Speaker 1>vice president that has a Marine Corps background and he

862
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<v Speaker 1>retired as an ETH. He not retire you left active

863
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<v Speaker 1>duty as an E four. So the mafia is going

864
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<v Speaker 1>to be up at the Naval Observatory. So again on

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<v Speaker 1>the Marine Corps birthday. I guess that's their birthday present

866
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<v Speaker 1>this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's uh, based on my experience with the

868
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<v Speaker 2>form mafia, they think there's a lot of stuff done,

869
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<v Speaker 2>not necessarily in the in the traditional pathways, but it's uh,

870
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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm glad we have somebody who got some

871
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<v Speaker 2>experience at that level instead of you know that the

872
00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:32.840
<v Speaker 2>powdered and kwaift officer class that we've always had. So

873
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<v Speaker 2>I think I hav an former enlisted guy hanging around,

874
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<v Speaker 2>even if it's as a vice president, is a good idea.

875
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<v Speaker 2>When we haven't talked. I mean, there are a lot

876
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<v Speaker 2>of things we should be talking about. Merchant shipping, you know,

877
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:48.559
<v Speaker 2>the recreation of all that. We've beaten some of those

878
00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:52.039
<v Speaker 2>issues flogs and his issues pretty hard. We know we

879
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<v Speaker 2>need to do it. We also need things like we've

880
00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:57.679
<v Speaker 2>got these auxiliaries that are being laid up because they

881
00:52:57.679 --> 00:52:59.599
<v Speaker 2>don't have careers. We need to put us send people

882
00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:03.280
<v Speaker 2>on them or USN civilian mixed crews and get them

883
00:53:03.360 --> 00:53:06.079
<v Speaker 2>underway so that our fleet doesn't have you know, we're

884
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<v Speaker 2>wearing at all these other ships. It's just got brand

885
00:53:08.800 --> 00:53:11.920
<v Speaker 2>new ships sitting wait for cruise that is a ridiculous waste.

886
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it also burns out the cruise that you

887
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<v Speaker 1>do have forward, So you either increase the supply of

888
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<v Speaker 1>people or you have to decrease the response to the

889
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<v Speaker 1>demand signal because people will always want to deploy ships,

890
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:31.880
<v Speaker 1>but there's a cost to that down the road, which

891
00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:34.440
<v Speaker 1>again that's supposed to be our c ando's job to

892
00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:37.960
<v Speaker 1>look at the long term. Goes back to over a

893
00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:41.639
<v Speaker 1>decade ago where we had our senior leadership saying eight

894
00:53:41.679 --> 00:53:47.039
<v Speaker 1>to nine month deployments are the new normal. No, No,

895
00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:50.840
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't the right answer. You're burning out your sailors

896
00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:55.079
<v Speaker 1>and your ships to make your job convenient now, as

897
00:53:55.079 --> 00:54:00.400
<v Speaker 1>opposed to having a stewardship view of things where you're

898
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<v Speaker 1>going to pick fights now to make sure that the

899
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<v Speaker 1>people who have your job in five, ten, fifteen years

900
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<v Speaker 1>don't run into the problem we have right now. That's

901
00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:15.360
<v Speaker 1>because of short term focus, lack of a stewardship mindset,

902
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<v Speaker 1>and people not willing to make powerful enemies. It's a

903
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<v Speaker 1>lot easier to just piss off your seagoing, enlisted and

904
00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:31.280
<v Speaker 1>field grade and company great officers than it is to

905
00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:33.679
<v Speaker 1>piss off people on the board of directors of Boeing

906
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<v Speaker 1>and write down who may be offering you a job

907
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<v Speaker 1>within days after your retirement. Yes, I'm subtweeting, the former

908
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<v Speaker 1>chairman of the Joint Chie says staff.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I see there's a lot of stuff in

910
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<v Speaker 2>in the early on in the chatteran about discussions of

911
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<v Speaker 2>DEI I mean, if you want to cut money, and

912
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<v Speaker 2>maybe I don't know what the cost of that stuff is,

913
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<v Speaker 2>but you know, I've seen that somewhere that President elect

914
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<v Speaker 2>Trump was you know a lot of those programs, everybody

915
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<v Speaker 2>saying those are those are dead? You know, I know

916
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<v Speaker 2>in the locals in the state government here, they pretty

917
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<v Speaker 2>much defunded all those things for the for colleges, and

918
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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's it's a it's a I don't notice

919
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<v Speaker 2>that the quality of education of our students in those

920
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<v Speaker 2>universities and colleges has gone down one iota either. But

921
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<v Speaker 2>we got you know, we've got too many people who

922
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<v Speaker 2>have to do things to justify their existence, and the

923
00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:30.960
<v Speaker 2>things they do are often counterproductive to getting real things done.

924
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<v Speaker 2>So and if Musk is going to be the the

925
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<v Speaker 2>czar of cutting government, I hope he takes lessons from

926
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<v Speaker 2>the Argentine President whatever his name is, pretty much ruthlessly

927
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<v Speaker 2>went through the Argentine government and I mean to cut

928
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<v Speaker 2>out the tax like they're quot to the rs and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So and there their economy has responded and responded well.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, the we've done the same thing with the

931
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<v Speaker 2>DEI and in the Free State of Florida as well

932
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<v Speaker 2>in the last two years, and nobody misses them. And

933
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<v Speaker 2>they've taken that money and they've repurposed it in the

934
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<v Speaker 2>universities to everything from scholarships, traditional instructors. I remember they

935
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<v Speaker 2>changed their name this summer from the Office of Diversity

936
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<v Speaker 2>Equity Inclusion, but just as a one data point at

937
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<v Speaker 2>the US Naval Academy, their DEI office, they're now calling

938
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<v Speaker 2>themselves Fuzzy bunny Farts or whatever they're calling themselves this

939
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<v Speaker 2>week they've changed their names. Try to hide, but if

940
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<v Speaker 2>you look, if you look at it, it's half dozen

941
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<v Speaker 2>plus people. That's a payroll of well over a million dollars.

942
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<v Speaker 2>That as just people. That's not their tad, that's not

943
00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:50.880
<v Speaker 2>their travel, that's not the seminars they're hosting, none of that.

944
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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, there's a lot of money that they actually

945
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<v Speaker 2>spoke and that cuts you off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, the cat is after me.

947
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<v Speaker 2>We need to we need to stop before they come

948
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<v Speaker 2>looking for you directly instead of just cutting your sound

949
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<v Speaker 2>off some.

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<v Speaker 1>Wey. That's It's been a great hour and as always,

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<v Speaker 1>we appreciate we had a really good, live, live group

952
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<v Speaker 1>of folks with us today, which is always nice to

953
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<v Speaker 1>see in a really active chat room. So come back

954
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<v Speaker 1>for future mid Rats in the chat room, and thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much for joining us for another edition of

956
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<v Speaker 1>mid Rats. We'll be back next week. I don't think

957
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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take a two week break for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's always a good thing to have. And until

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<v Speaker 1>next time, I hope everybody has a great Navy day. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, thanks everybody for being with us today.
