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Speaker 5: till six o'clock kick back, Relax, make yourself at home,
Speaker 5: get warm because it's really really cold outside. Austin said
Speaker 5: it right about five minutes ago that the cold weather
Speaker 5: it's just, I mean, it sucks. It's today's the day
Speaker 5: where it seems like clearly it's been really cold lately.
Speaker 5: That's why we've got snow still piled up all over
Speaker 5: the city. But today when I walked outside, even though
Speaker 5: it's really sunny, kind of deceiving.
Speaker 4: It is freezing outside.
Speaker 3: I can't stand it.
Speaker 6: It's the deception of walking outside and seeing like through
Speaker 6: your window that like, oh my god, there's sun and
Speaker 6: absolutely nothing has melted.
Speaker 5: I feel like today's one of the brightest days ever.
Speaker 5: I'm sure it's not. It's it's it's just maybe we
Speaker 5: haven't had much sun. But man, it is bright as
Speaker 5: can be outside. And yes, it is deceiving. You think
Speaker 5: maybe they'd be melting some of this stuff, but not really.
Speaker 5: It's still freezing, and we got more winter storms heading
Speaker 5: our way.
Speaker 3: So I mean, look at you. You're layered up. Mind,
Speaker 3: I am a good jacket and a hoodie.
Speaker 6: And man, these studios and they usually are typically warm,
Speaker 6: but it's it's tough to adjust after coming from us.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, and I made the mistake. It's usually not
Speaker 5: that big of a deal. But I was running errands
Speaker 5: earlier today and I got back to the house and
Speaker 5: I pulled in the garage and I did not shut
Speaker 5: the garage. I just left the garage open, went inside.
Speaker 5: Was probably in there for I don't know, maybe forty
Speaker 5: five minutes before I headed back out to come to
Speaker 5: come to work, and it was insane how quick my
Speaker 5: car froze. And again it wasn't that, you know, it
Speaker 5: was it was covered too, I mean it was in
Speaker 5: the garage just with that wind whipping in.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's cold outside.
Speaker 5: And according to our partners over at wk Y, the
Speaker 5: winter storm watch has been issued and I guess it'll
Speaker 5: start technically tomorrow tomorrow afternoon, but yes, it's a widespread
Speaker 5: two to five inches of snow will be possible for
Speaker 5: this area. Says here that the storm will will have
Speaker 5: some noticeable differences. All precipitation will fall in the form
Speaker 5: of snow, so I guess we don't have to worry
Speaker 5: about any of the uh, you know, the ice and
Speaker 5: the freezing stuff that we got. But that also, uh
Speaker 5: means we've got more snow that's just gonna fall and
Speaker 5: layer on what is already just a bunch of ice.
Speaker 5: That's That's what's really stood out in the last two
Speaker 5: days for me is that clearly there's a whole lot
Speaker 5: of snow, and a lot of it's been shoveled and
Speaker 5: moved and at least on the main roads and parking,
Speaker 5: lots of that kind of stuff. But there's still a
Speaker 5: ton of ice out there, which of course is you know,
Speaker 5: really dangerous. But it looks like tomorrow around by the time.
Speaker 5: I guess it depends on where you are. But if
Speaker 5: you are in you know, the Louisville area, that's that's
Speaker 5: a big general area. But it seems like eleven am,
Speaker 5: it's gonna start heading you know, it'll be it'll be
Speaker 5: coming from the Evansville Owensboro area, so it'll be heading east,
Speaker 5: I guess northeast towards US and by about uh, let's
Speaker 5: see here, you know, when you get to five o'clock,
Speaker 5: that's about whenever it's gonna be you know, at its
Speaker 5: at its heaviest, I suppose, and.
Speaker 3: Other words get used to it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so like my wife, they've already said that
Speaker 5: they're gonna send their their employees home at one o'clock tomorrow,
Speaker 5: which which you know that that tells me that they
Speaker 5: are they're that worried about it. This is she works
Speaker 5: in the financial industry. So therefore banks, credit unions to
Speaker 5: that kind of stuff. They usually don't Cloe. I mean,
Speaker 5: people need their money, they're they're they're usually going to
Speaker 5: be open if possible, regardless of weather. So I guess
Speaker 5: leaving early will get you out maybe home before it
Speaker 5: starts getting real bad. I uh, I'm going to Pittsburgh
Speaker 5: this weekend, which I mean, I'm that's the plan.
Speaker 4: But here's here's our here's here's what we're doing.
Speaker 5: And I'm now getting a little worried because, uh, I
Speaker 5: don't want to get stranded on the road on Friday
Speaker 5: night up to Pittsburgh. So here's what we decided to do.
Speaker 5: We're gonna leave right after the show Tomorrow's. So my dad,
Speaker 5: he lives across the river here in Jeffersonville, He'll have
Speaker 5: my nephew and my my son, and then I'm gonna
Speaker 5: go pick them up right after the show, and we're
Speaker 5: gonna head to Columbus and stay in Columbus, Ohio for
Speaker 5: the night, get up and get to Pittsburgh in the
Speaker 5: morning and the games at noon, and then we'll have
Speaker 5: a day there and we will be rooting for the
Speaker 5: Ravens against the Steelers while we're in Pittsburgh, so we
Speaker 5: got to be a little careful about that. But anyways,
Speaker 5: while driving up to Columbus, like I feel like I
Speaker 5: may be like I'm basically going to be riding with
Speaker 5: the snowstorm up to that exact area, which not ideal.
Speaker 3: Great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I mean I'm not going to cancel the trip.
Speaker 5: I mean, I know, I don't. I mean, this is
Speaker 5: We're gonna try to We're gonna make it work. Like
Speaker 5: maybe we end up realizing that we have to stop
Speaker 5: a little sooner than Columbus because we just want to
Speaker 5: get somewhere, stay the night and let this storm ride out.
Speaker 5: And I would assume the more north we go, the
Speaker 5: more prepared those areas are going to be for a
Speaker 5: lot of snow. But yeah, this is the first time.
Speaker 5: Maybe this is just karma coming back on me because
Speaker 5: I happen to love the snow that we got a
Speaker 5: few days ago.
Speaker 4: It's been a little bit of a weird week with
Speaker 4: the schedule with kids.
Speaker 5: Not being in school and my my son's daycare is
Speaker 5: closed and all that. But you know, I snowstorms and
Speaker 5: sort of what they bring until you know it really
Speaker 5: inconveniences you, uh, And if in fact we get what
Speaker 5: they're expecting tomorrow, I have a feeling it's gonna be me.
Speaker 4: That's that's thinking. Yeah, this sucks. It's kind of pretty.
Speaker 5: But man, when you actually want to go do stuff
Speaker 5: and mother Nature gets in the way, that's that's when
Speaker 5: you you know you hate her. So anyways, prepare yourself.
Speaker 5: The cold weather will be here at least for the
Speaker 5: next couple of days, and we got more snow expected tomorrow.
Speaker 5: All right, so a lot to get into here for
Speaker 5: these next three hours. I mean, there is a ton
Speaker 5: I want to to try to run down until or
Speaker 5: until we get out of here at six o'clock. And
Speaker 5: I'll start with just some big, big breaking news. Of course,
Speaker 5: We've got a college football playoff matchup tonight Penn State
Speaker 5: and Notre Dame. Notre Dame currently favored about point and
Speaker 5: a half. But about an hour ago news broke that
Speaker 5: Carson Beck, the Georgia quarterback, who wasn't he a part
Speaker 5: of I mean, did he? I know he's been there
Speaker 5: for a while and he's been really good. But did
Speaker 5: he win a championship with Georgia.
Speaker 3: Or was it last time the Bennett?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think didn't Stetson Bennett win two? I think he did.
Speaker 5: I can't remember because they went back to back, yes,
Speaker 5: and I think he was the starting quarterback he was, yeah,
Speaker 5: so yeah.
Speaker 3: Beck wasn't. He wasn't. Uh, it wasn't behind him, was he?
Speaker 4: He was?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah.
Speaker 4: So so he's been there the whole time.
Speaker 5: He took over in twenty twenty three, which was last season,
Speaker 5: and then this current season he was. So he's there
Speaker 5: been their starting quarterback twice, and that was the two
Speaker 5: years that they did not they did not win the
Speaker 5: National Championship and they kind of took a step back.
Speaker 4: However, he's he's in the transfer portal.
Speaker 5: He had initially announced he was going to go to
Speaker 5: the NFL Draft, but just about everybody I heard talking
Speaker 5: about that decision said he was making a mistake because
Speaker 5: of course, he doesn't look like he's going to be
Speaker 5: ready to play in the NFL now and maybe ever.
Speaker 5: So he's now decided to enter the portal, and clearly
Speaker 5: there's going to be a lot of interest. I've seen
Speaker 5: that this is apparently already a done deal that he's well,
Speaker 5: I guess, not official, but it sounds like he was
Speaker 5: looking to go to the NFL d and that was
Speaker 5: his plan until somebody from Miami got a hold of
Speaker 5: him or his representation and said, look, we'll give you
Speaker 5: this if you don't go to the NFL Draft and
Speaker 5: you come back to college and play for US, and
Speaker 5: I would imagine that was probably a pretty big time offer.
Speaker 4: So that's just huge news. And that's where we are
Speaker 4: in college sports.
Speaker 5: I mean, clearly it's going to be a big talking point,
Speaker 5: and it already is as we speak, probably all across
Speaker 5: the country for those who cover and love college football.
Speaker 5: But it's not necessarily big news because you're just like stunned.
Speaker 5: I mean, you're going to see prominent players who played
Speaker 5: for some of the best. I mean, we've already seen it.
Speaker 5: There's examples of it out there in college basketball.
Speaker 4: Obviously.
Speaker 5: You know Caleb Love and he's been around for a
Speaker 5: long time. Right started his career at Carolina, was a
Speaker 5: big time player, took them all the way to the
Speaker 5: National Championship game, and then decided to transfer to Arizona.
Speaker 5: I kind of feel like maybe Hunter Dickinson could fit
Speaker 5: into that example. But Michigan wasn't great, but clearly he
Speaker 5: was one of the best players in the country and
Speaker 5: certainly a prominent guy for a team that underwhelmed, of course,
Speaker 5: but still you know, solid, so people knew who he was,
Speaker 5: and then he goes to Kansas, one of the premier programs.
Speaker 5: So it still at times hits me like, wow, this
Speaker 5: is so new in the grand scheme of things, right,
Speaker 5: like college sports for the forever was was pretty it
Speaker 5: was much, to put it lightly, much different. But what
Speaker 5: I was getting at is you just had the same
Speaker 5: exact system for decades generations, right, the old amateurism model
Speaker 5: that they tried to stick with, And that really isn't that.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's the biggest reason why we're in this
Speaker 5: position now, why it's such a free for all. There's
Speaker 5: no regulations, nobody seems to really even know what the
Speaker 5: rules are. They're just doing whatever and hoping they can
Speaker 5: get away with it. All of that is due to
Speaker 5: the fact that the NAA did not adjust and just
Speaker 5: and let this build up to where they got sued
Speaker 5: and a judge told him, yeah, what you've been doing,
Speaker 5: but like the last I don't know, one hundred years,
Speaker 5: that's illegal.
Speaker 4: You can't do that. So it's a whole new world now.
Speaker 5: And at times I still think like wow, just imagine
Speaker 5: because again, think about like college basketball and college football
Speaker 5: in the mid two thousands, in the nineties, or heck,
Speaker 5: even ten years ago. Like the thought of one of
Speaker 5: the best players in the country, who has you know,
Speaker 5: produced not only for his team, but put you know,
Speaker 5: just a guy that clearly was a rock star within
Speaker 5: the sport in that time. You would think, well, if
Speaker 5: he's coming back, he must not have NBA interest or
Speaker 5: NFL ench, or he must not be ready to go
Speaker 5: to the pros. But man, he's killing it and he's
Speaker 5: at a school that's already winning. Why would he ever leave?
Speaker 5: Well because of money. Now, like imagine, you know, Russ
Speaker 5: Smith comes back from from and this loives may not
Speaker 5: be a great example because I have a feeling when it
Speaker 5: comes to basketball players, especially in that era, we would
Speaker 5: not be getting out bid by many teams.
Speaker 4: However, just think about Russ. Russ came back after Louisville.
Speaker 5: Won the national championship if you remember, and that was
Speaker 5: that twenty fourteen team. Luke came back as well, but
Speaker 5: Russ was I mean, that was when Russ became a legend.
Speaker 5: I mean, to be honest with he was still great
Speaker 5: as a senior, but that junior year when he won
Speaker 5: the national championship. Of course he had a great team
Speaker 5: around him, but Russ Smith was the rock star of
Speaker 5: that team and one of the best players in the country.
Speaker 5: So imagine if you know, there's a team out there
Speaker 5: at that point that just has money nobody else could match.
Speaker 5: And I mean, I doubt he would do it, and
Speaker 5: I probably shouldn't use Rus as an example because I
Speaker 5: don't want to make it seem.
Speaker 4: Like I think he would have. But that kind of
Speaker 4: stuff didn't exist.
Speaker 5: It wasn't even something anybody ever thought about because it
Speaker 5: wasn't possible, Like it just there was no scenario where
Speaker 5: anything like that would ever happen. Well, now it's just
Speaker 5: an absolute free for all. And what you have here
Speaker 5: is professional sports. I mean that is quite literally what
Speaker 5: this is. Free agency season exists. You can become a
Speaker 5: free agent and you can get paid to play and
Speaker 5: you have agents. Like this is professional sports when it
Speaker 5: comes to the high level college football, college basketball, and
Speaker 5: you know, I guess technically it is elsewhere, but clearly
Speaker 5: the sports that have the biggest amount of money, the
Speaker 5: most money coming in, right the revenue generators, which of
Speaker 5: course is college football mostly and then some college basketball.
Speaker 5: That's where it just you know, it's in your face.
Speaker 5: You know, you still you go watch, you know, because
Speaker 5: you can be a free agent, and because you can
Speaker 5: get paid that that technically means that it's it's pro
Speaker 5: like it's a job. But you can go to Nightshall
Speaker 5: and watch Scott Davenport and Bellerman play Stetson and you
Speaker 5: won't really think about that, right, But when you get
Speaker 5: to the higher level, you know, it's in your face.
Speaker 4: These guys are making a lot of money.
Speaker 5: They got you know, fancy cars, and they're you know,
Speaker 5: they've they're larger than life and they're probably making big,
Speaker 5: big time money, more money than maybe their coach.
Speaker 4: I mean that seems that seems.
Speaker 5: Far fetched, but it's not crazy, right, I mean, who
Speaker 5: is the guy who ended up at uh at Washington
Speaker 5: Great osctin bar I remember that guy we were tracking
Speaker 5: in the portal?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the huge nil deal.
Speaker 4: Yeah I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't believe he got what they claimed he got,
Speaker 5: but you would have if Louisville, if Louisville was was
Speaker 5: willing to bid the highest. They've been paying that guy
Speaker 5: more than they pay their coach. Like, you know, that's
Speaker 5: just it's it's it's very much pro sports directly in
Speaker 5: your face. And I'm not like I'm I'm i don't.
Speaker 5: I don't ever want I'm not I'm not kidding you.
Speaker 5: And I'm stuttering here because I was trying to rack
Speaker 5: my brain to to to see if maybe I don't
Speaker 5: think I've ever once while watching my team play or
Speaker 5: another team play, I never have once thought about guys
Speaker 5: being paid to play, Like it's.
Speaker 4: Never even entered my mind.
Speaker 5: Now maybe, you know, maybe it will at some point
Speaker 5: and I'll start thinking, hey, we're not getting a great
Speaker 5: return on this investment. Like I just I just I don't.
Speaker 5: You know, it doesn't bother me, but there are some
Speaker 5: people that that when they watch the sport and they
Speaker 5: know these guys are no longer out there just for
Speaker 5: the love of the game, it turns them off. And
Speaker 5: I don't really I can't relate, But you know, everybody's different.
Speaker 5: In fact, since we're talking in ail stuff, let me
Speaker 5: throw this at you, Austin, because I was talking to
Speaker 5: an assistant coach during the Christmas break, just catching up
Speaker 5: with some friends and one of my buddies.
Speaker 6: You're an assistant coach, by the way, am I.
Speaker 3: I thought you're assistant coach.
Speaker 4: Oh that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Uh And and man, I'm glad you brought that up
Speaker 5: because I got to tell you a really sweet.
Speaker 3: Story, real quick coaching, realm Yeah.
Speaker 5: So because we're going to the game in Pittsburgh, me
Speaker 5: Mason's Pop Paul, of course, my dad and my nephew Luke.
Speaker 5: You know, he knows we're going to watch the Cards
Speaker 5: play and he knows that, like you know, we're excited.
Speaker 5: And last night at dinner, he said, do you are
Speaker 5: are you going to tell Pat Kelsey that Pop Paul
Speaker 5: can help him coach if he needs him. And I
Speaker 5: thought it was the sweetest thing ever. And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I may see if we can get maybe, yeah, I'll
Speaker 5: see if I can get get somebody to let him
Speaker 5: know that, because yeah, you might need his help.
Speaker 3: And that's right.
Speaker 5: And then he told my dad to make sure and
Speaker 5: bring his whistle, his whistle because he kind of a
Speaker 5: whistle for.
Speaker 6: I love the other day when we were at the
Speaker 6: game where he's just kind of I mean, he he
Speaker 6: knows what's going on, but like asking about the score.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, like at halftime, who's winning? Like at that stuff's.
Speaker 4: Very he was winning. Are we winning? Do we like them?
Speaker 6: He's just cheering. He doesn't even care if they lose
Speaker 6: him winning. He's just cheering. I love it.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: He asks a billion questions an hour, it seems, and
Speaker 5: I just try my best to give him whatever answer
Speaker 5: I can. But anyways, back to the conversation about the
Speaker 5: assistant coach I was talking to, And I never would
Speaker 5: have thought of this, but this makes total sense if
Speaker 5: you're an assistant coach in your you know, at A
Speaker 5: at A, I mean, heck, I guess it could be
Speaker 5: any level, like the highest level. I was gonna say
Speaker 5: the the guy that I'm referencing coaches at the lower level.
Speaker 5: But if you've got four players on the team making
Speaker 5: more money than your staff, like that's that's weird, Like
Speaker 5: that's yeah, I mean again in the NBA, in the NFL,
Speaker 5: like that's totally normal, and it's it's under it's it's understood.
Speaker 5: But I mean, I feel like that could cause a riff.
Speaker 5: Like there's nothing you can do about it. If you're
Speaker 5: an assistant coach, like you understand, like, hey, you know,
Speaker 5: we need to have money available to go pay these players.
Speaker 5: But once you realize that these guys are making more
Speaker 5: than you, I mean, maybe you just maybe you chalk
Speaker 5: it up and you think to yourself, well, hey, this
Speaker 5: is this is what we got to do, or maybe
Speaker 5: you think, man, this isn't the industry I got into.
Speaker 5: I don't like coaching guys, Like how can I How
Speaker 5: can I coach these guys up and really command their
Speaker 5: respect whenever they know that they're making more money than
Speaker 5: me and I'm I'm a coach, I'm an authoritative figure
Speaker 5: like I could it could get in your head. So
Speaker 5: he brought it up because he said there have been
Speaker 5: some programs that he knows that have had some real
Speaker 5: turmoil within just because the environment's just off, because it's
Speaker 5: just like it's it's it's it's not ideal, and and
Speaker 5: that's something that probably doesn't get enough credit. And I
Speaker 5: don't mean for any specific program around here, but I
Speaker 5: feel like it would be very difficult when you have
Speaker 5: money now involved where guys are getting paid, and clearly
Speaker 5: they're getting paid different amounts. It's one thing if if
Speaker 5: you're not having a ton of roster turnover, but when
Speaker 5: you build a team from scratch and you and you
Speaker 5: know that nil was a factor probably a huge factor
Speaker 5: with some of these guys as far as why they
Speaker 5: came to Louisville, like having everybody collectively kind of you know,
Speaker 5: and again I feel like that would be more difficult
Speaker 5: to do the people realize. But maybe I'm not giving
Speaker 5: you know, these guys credit as far as maturity, because
Speaker 5: that's life, right, Like, let's be honest. There's a guy
Speaker 5: down the hall, he's balled, he's beautiful, he's on a
Speaker 5: different radio station right now. He makes probably a lot
Speaker 5: more money than I do. And like I'm not I
Speaker 5: get that, Like I'm not. That's not something where I'm like,
Speaker 5: wait a second, because Terry's you know, clearly in a
Speaker 5: different planet than me when it comes to this this industry,
Speaker 5: in this business.
Speaker 4: So you know that that's life. But just because you would.
Speaker 5: You you know, just because you know, going in to
Speaker 5: any career path that like you're gonna end up working
Speaker 5: with people that do different jobs than you at that
Speaker 5: same company. They're going to make more money. It's just
Speaker 5: how it is. These guys that are playing college basketball.
Speaker 5: I mean, some of these guys that are playing college basketball,
Speaker 5: when they started playing, this wasn't a thing. So like
Speaker 5: it you know, and it's still eight between eighteen to
Speaker 5: twenty two years old. You know, like maybe maybe it's
Speaker 5: not immaturity. But it's just it's one thing when you're
Speaker 5: going to work, you're punching, punching the clock. But I
Speaker 5: don't think these guys still fully look.
Speaker 4: At this as a job.
Speaker 5: Just yet it is, and they're utilizing that component to
Speaker 5: make the most out of the situation. Right, stick out
Speaker 5: or hang out in college as long as you want,
Speaker 5: and try to put away a lot of money before
Speaker 5: you start your career after sports because you're not a pro.
Speaker 5: Like in that aspect, they are realizing. But like, I don't,
Speaker 5: you know, I don't think you would have a whole
Speaker 5: lot of success if truly everybody just looked at it
Speaker 5: as a job. Like you still have to have a giba. Damn,
Speaker 5: you still have to really love it. You have to
Speaker 5: work hard, you have to buy in. And I think
Speaker 5: programs that are struggling, but yet you know they should
Speaker 5: be better because they've got all this nil money and
Speaker 5: they brought in this guy and that guy. I think
Speaker 5: when you under whelm, I'm sure there's a lot of
Speaker 5: factors that could lead to that, but I think one
Speaker 5: of them is just because it was really just a
Speaker 5: business transaction. There wasn't as much hunger and real energy
Speaker 5: towards competing and really winning at a high level as
Speaker 5: a team and balancing all that is is just a
Speaker 5: new challenge that we have here in college sports.
Speaker 6: And we're still in the new stages of that to
Speaker 6: where it doesn't seem like a job now, but think
Speaker 6: three four years down the line, where these guys are
Speaker 6: going to seem like, I mean, it might come to
Speaker 6: contracts by that point, these guys are going to seem
Speaker 6: like highly contracted, sought after guys. And you look at
Speaker 6: I mean, you just mentioned that players could be possibly
Speaker 6: make it more money than the coach. And remember a
Speaker 6: couple of years ago when the first debate about nil
Speaker 6: and players getting paid was happening, It was a lot
Speaker 6: of concern was talking about the locker room, Well this
Speaker 6: guy might get paid more than this other player, the player,
Speaker 6: not the coach. And then when you're seeing things like
Speaker 6: on x or on social media where you're seeing like
Speaker 6: a fifth year senior that's either thinking about transfer or staying,
Speaker 6: they're using terms like quote, agreed to terms to stay
Speaker 6: at this school.
Speaker 3: They're agreeing to terms.
Speaker 6: Basically like signing a new contract, and like it's absolutely insane.
Speaker 4: It is, and I think.
Speaker 5: In a way, because before nil, these guys got what's
Speaker 5: called like cost of living, which was like a stipend
Speaker 5: to where they were. They were able to make a
Speaker 5: little money and clearly they didn't have to pay for anything,
Speaker 5: so you know, they weren't clear. But the whole argument
Speaker 5: was that the NSABA is making a ton of money
Speaker 5: off of what they do, and they are part of
Speaker 5: their employee. They are employees, and they should they should
Speaker 5: get a revenue share, and that's that's that's what that's
Speaker 5: what this recent lawsuit did in fact decide. However, you know,
Speaker 5: whenever the players are going to be paid next year,
Speaker 5: I think it is right the revenue share that's coming
Speaker 5: where all the schools have to I mean, you can,
Speaker 5: you can pay up to I think it's twenty and
Speaker 5: a half or twenty two million dollars.
Speaker 4: That's what you're allowed to share. That's the max.
Speaker 5: So obviously with that, I think you will see guys
Speaker 5: kind of like from that standpoint. I could be wrong here,
Speaker 5: but I feel like it will be okay, eighty percents
Speaker 5: going to football. We are going to split that up
Speaker 5: between all the scholarship players, and that's still going to
Speaker 5: be a lot of money for these guys. But and
Speaker 5: at that point, if if that was it and that's
Speaker 5: just how they're getting paid now truly a revenue share,
Speaker 5: and they're still making a lot of money, that would
Speaker 5: make it to where it's back to kind of the
Speaker 5: stipend thing, to where it's just like everybody's getting the
Speaker 5: same so it's whatever, Like it's not really it's just
Speaker 5: you know, you're not really competing for more. You're getting
Speaker 5: what you're getting. They're getting what they're getting. It's the
Speaker 5: same thing.
Speaker 4: Who cares. But NIL is still going to exist.
Speaker 5: Therefore, I mean you're still going to see guys that
Speaker 5: are going to get whatever they're getting from the revenue
Speaker 5: share and the kicker because again I would say, Bama, Georgia,
Speaker 5: any power program that wants to succeed is going to
Speaker 5: be able to it's going to have to maximize and
Speaker 5: say we're sharing the most they're going to allow us
Speaker 5: to share. So when every school is basically offering the
Speaker 5: same amount because of the max then we're right back
Speaker 5: to this point of Okay, well, whoever can throw the
Speaker 5: biggest NIL deal out there, that's what's going to get me.
Speaker 5: Because I you know, when it comes to picking the
Speaker 5: school's pre and ile. It's the same thing. So anyways,
Speaker 5: quick break, we'll come back. Keep this thing rolling along.
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Speaker 4: I should have mentioned this earlier, but I forgot. We
Speaker 4: are actually out of here early.
Speaker 5: Today because of a basketball game that'll be broadcast here,
Speaker 5: so we will be with you for roughly the next
Speaker 5: hour and fifteen minutes. Four forty five, is is that right?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 5: All right, So we'll make hard out hard what heard
Speaker 5: out hard out hard out hard hot hard end hard.
Speaker 4: On Okay, make it sure heart out we four forty
Speaker 4: five today, so t.
Speaker 3: Ever hard way you like it.
Speaker 5: Actually, we will make the most of the time that
Speaker 5: we do have here. And this person on the text
Speaker 5: line says Nick Pittsburgh native, But I went to u
Speaker 5: OFL glad to hear you're coming up with the game.
Speaker 4: Hit me up and I'll get you a beer.
Speaker 5: Don't tell me that and then and then be surprised
Speaker 5: when I do hit you up, like I have your
Speaker 5: I have your number, now you're on the text line.
Speaker 3: And a beer. How silly of him?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, how about how about a beer from
Speaker 5: old man? I mean, how about a beer from my
Speaker 5: how about a beer for my son?
Speaker 4: That would be wrong? Kidding? Uh? How generous are you
Speaker 4: willing to be?
Speaker 5: No, I'm kidding uh, And it be awesome And and
Speaker 5: look if I'm not going to stalk you or anything
Speaker 5: like that, but if you see me and you know
Speaker 5: you do want to offer me a beer, I'm not.
Speaker 5: I am not against uh taking free beer from people
Speaker 5: who want to who want to offer. So their arena
Speaker 5: in in uh in Pittsburgh is probably that's the Zoo, right, Yes,
Speaker 5: it's one of the newer Maybe I'm wrong. The Peterson
Speaker 5: Event Center is what it's called. And it's on campus
Speaker 5: and it's it's beautiful. It's perfect size as far as
Speaker 5: like you don't have to have a ton of people
Speaker 5: there for to be a pretty rowdy atmosphere, and it's nice,
Speaker 5: like I want, I wanted to say that it's it's
Speaker 5: one of the newer arenas in the A C C.
Speaker 5: The Young Sinner what ten years old now or actually
Speaker 5: longer than that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's twenty Yeah, it's so.
Speaker 4: Other than that.
Speaker 5: And I'm sure there are plenty of others that I
Speaker 5: just don't know about that are new, but when I went.
Speaker 5: In fact, i've been to pitt twice for Louisville games.
Speaker 5: Went the last year of coach Mack, and then I
Speaker 5: went the year before that in the COVID year whenever
Speaker 5: they played up there and went to overtime. But anyways,
Speaker 5: it's a really nice venue.
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh. Again, we talked about it not that long ago.
Speaker 5: I feel like it it's a city that when it
Speaker 5: comes up in casual social conversations, there's not many people
Speaker 5: gonna go out of their way to say anything positive
Speaker 5: about it, not saying it's gonna be getting dumped on
Speaker 5: all the time, like Cleveland, Like Cleveland, in Buffalo, I
Speaker 5: feel like our cities that everybody's like, yeah, those places suck, though,
Speaker 5: and I have no reason to think that they do
Speaker 5: or don't. I don't know, but nonetheless, Pittsburgh's not to
Speaker 5: that level. But I just don't feel like people realize
Speaker 5: it's actually an awesome city. It's a great sports town,
Speaker 5: probably not great in the winters, but it's beautiful this
Speaker 5: time of year, and it's it's awesome. So I'm looking
Speaker 5: forward to to going up there, and I'm hoping that
Speaker 5: Louisville can bring back a victory because it would certainly
Speaker 5: be a big one. And Pitt I have no clue
Speaker 5: anytime I've you got to keep in mind, pitt has
Speaker 5: been terrible in basketball for a long time, and this
Speaker 5: year I think it's Cable's one of his best teams.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's had a couple of good teams, Like
Speaker 5: he really kind of, you know, saved his job in
Speaker 5: the last few years because I feel like, and how
Speaker 5: long has he been there.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna look it up now.
Speaker 5: Because Cable took over for Stallings, who of course replaced
Speaker 5: and Jamie Dixon, and clearly Stallings, I mean was one
Speaker 5: of the worst hires you'll ever see. I mean at
Speaker 5: the time, I kind of actually know at the time
Speaker 5: he'd run it'd run its course with Stallings at Vandy,
Speaker 5: and Vandy was elated that that Pittsburgh wanted him, so
Speaker 5: they got rid of him. And he was really really
Speaker 5: bad at pitt I mean, didn't they go like two
Speaker 5: years I think without winning a league game.
Speaker 3: I mean, they was pretty bad. They were a bad star.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Caple's been there since twenty eighteen, and he
Speaker 5: never won more than six games in acc play. In fact,
Speaker 5: he went three and fifteen, six and fourteen, six and ten,
Speaker 5: six and fourteen in his first four years, and I
Speaker 5: think at that point you started to think, Okay, are
Speaker 5: they gonna are they gonna keep this guy? And then
Speaker 5: since then, I mean, he's he's done well. He I mean, well,
Speaker 5: he's done a lot better, I should say. I still
Speaker 5: feel like though at times they've had teams where I'm like,
Speaker 5: you all should be better, Like you have good players,
Speaker 5: they always play tough, they're physical, usually have some good
Speaker 5: balance as far as leading scorers. But yeah, in twenty
Speaker 5: twenty three they made it to the round of thirty two.
Speaker 5: They went fourteen and six in the league. Last year
Speaker 5: they were twelve and eight, and I don't think they
Speaker 5: made the tournament. Maybe I'm wrong. But then this year
Speaker 5: they're off to a good start again. I think it's
Speaker 5: one of his better teams, maybe his best team. So
Speaker 5: I say all that to say, I have no clue
Speaker 5: what their crowd is going to be like, because when
Speaker 5: they were good, like back in the prime Big East days,
Speaker 5: right like twenty I mean got to keep in mind
Speaker 5: for a while when Louisville was in a really good
Speaker 5: stretch there with t will Earl k that era. Pitt
Speaker 5: was up there with them every year. Oh dude, Dewan
Speaker 5: Blair absolutely hated lev Ance Fields.
Speaker 4: Remember that guy. Oh dude, yeah, Gary McGee like they.
Speaker 3: Had it's a guy that got crossed by m it is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, in goodness, gracious he was. He was an interesting
Speaker 5: looking guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But yeah, So this pit team, you know, when they're good,
Speaker 5: I feel like they have great support, like their students.
Speaker 5: I remember it was the duo of David Paget and
Speaker 5: Derek Character in two thousand and eight where Character had
Speaker 5: a hell of a game. I mean, he was a
Speaker 5: talented guy, and I feel like that was like the
Speaker 5: first time he played where you're like, Okay, this guy's
Speaker 5: pretty special. But yeah, they had Aaron Gray, remember the
Speaker 5: big old white guy they had. Cam and Blair played together,
Speaker 5: and I remember Character and Paget kind of got the
Speaker 5: best of that duo, which was kind of surprising considering
Speaker 5: how good Pitt was. And I just remember winning there
Speaker 5: and it being a big win and their crowd being
Speaker 5: like really crazy. So the last few times I've gone.
Speaker 5: It hasn't been that.
Speaker 6: Their crowd was like so it seemed to at least
Speaker 6: on TV, was so close to the court. Yes, like
Speaker 6: and you just see that whole student section from the
Speaker 6: hardcam side.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5: Uh, I mean they had a great run and then
Speaker 5: I mean they kind of fell off in a way
Speaker 5: to where you're thinking, like, man, well, in fact, I'll
Speaker 5: just I don't want to act like they're terrible, because again,
Speaker 5: it would be a humongous win for Louisville thing go
Speaker 5: on the road and get it done. But Pitt, I mean,
Speaker 5: they're kind of an example that when you are not
Speaker 5: only irrelevant, but like really bad consistently for many many
Speaker 5: years and just not a threat at all. I kind
Speaker 5: of forgot that they were really good at one point,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like it wasn't just like
Speaker 5: they had one all.
Speaker 4: It wasn't like they had one is it? What's is it?
Speaker 4: Andy Dick? What is is it? Jamie Dixon?
Speaker 3: Jamie Dixon?
Speaker 5: Okay, I think I said something wrong the wrong name earlier.
Speaker 5: In fact, yeah I did, so Jamie Dixon was there,
Speaker 5: and again now that we're talking about it, I totally
Speaker 5: remember it. But like, I mean, they were really good.
Speaker 5: We're talking, you know, sweet sixty two of his first
Speaker 5: four years Elite eight, like they never broke through to
Speaker 5: go to the final four with him, but they had
Speaker 5: They had some really good teams. I mean, in two
Speaker 5: thousand and nine they were thirty one and five fifteen
Speaker 5: and three in the Big East. The next year they
Speaker 5: were twenty five and nine, thirteen and five in the
Speaker 5: Big East. I mean, they had some really really good teams.
Speaker 5: And when you fall off like they did, I mean
Speaker 5: two thousand and and I guess really the last two
Speaker 5: years of I could really last four years were kind
Speaker 5: of a drop off for him at Pitt but they
Speaker 5: were still solid.
Speaker 4: And then they made the move to.
Speaker 5: Stallings and then Capel and for a long stretch there
Speaker 5: from about two thousand and fifteen, I guess to today,
Speaker 5: they've not really ever been a threat. And this year
Speaker 5: I happen to believe. And maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this
Speaker 5: is the Homer in me, which I don't feel like
Speaker 5: I'm a Homer at all for the ACC, but I
Speaker 5: actually think they're better than you know.
Speaker 4: They're good regardless of the ACC being.
Speaker 5: Down in my opinion, but they're a team right now
Speaker 5: with a let's see because this, in fact, they may
Speaker 5: be a good example as to what we should expect
Speaker 5: on selection Sunday as far as the committee and what
Speaker 5: kind of value they're going to give the ACC because
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh right now, I mean, let's see where they stand
Speaker 5: in the Pittsburgh currently and the kin Palm is at
Speaker 5: twenty seven. They're twelve and three. Their losses are to
Speaker 5: all tournament teams, all good teams, in fact, all top
Speaker 5: twenty teams. They have losses to Wisconsin, close loss. They
Speaker 5: got beat bad by Mississippi State, but they're really good
Speaker 5: and that was on the road. And then they lost
Speaker 5: to Duke of course recently and that was a blowout.
Speaker 5: So you know, none of their losses are terrible. They
Speaker 5: do have a road win at Ohio State, which has
Speaker 5: some value. They beat LSU, which is a good, a
Speaker 5: solid SEC team. You know, they beat West Virginia and
Speaker 5: that's looking like a better win now because West Virginia
Speaker 5: has played really well and went into Kansas in one.
Speaker 5: So I feel like in any other year, if you
Speaker 5: look at this team and you consider the conference they're in,
Speaker 5: you would think that this team would be in the
Speaker 5: tournament easily, like maybe even being like a four or
Speaker 5: five seed, Like, I don't think that's crazy, but now,
Speaker 5: you know, you look at different bracketology out there. I
Speaker 5: think the best I've seen Pitt is like a seven.
Speaker 5: So and again, the people putting the bracketology together, they're
Speaker 5: not you know, these aren't people that are actually going
Speaker 5: to have any say so. But you know, it's all
Speaker 5: we can reference at this point, so you know, it
Speaker 5: doesn't matter to me though, And what I mean by
Speaker 5: that is like, I don't care if the ACC not
Speaker 5: getting not being great this year. Clearly Louislle is going
Speaker 5: to be able to benefit benefit from it. And I'm
Speaker 5: I get the noise out there, like if Louisville ends
Speaker 5: up having a really good record in league play, which
Speaker 5: I think they will, to be honest with you, from
Speaker 5: what I've seen lately, I think they will have a
Speaker 5: really good record in league play. And with that, I
Speaker 5: kind of feel like, you know, we'll be thinking to ourselves, hey,
Speaker 5: why aren't we getting more love?
Speaker 4: Why isn't our seed better?
Speaker 5: And then we're going to have to realize, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: it's because you know, maybe our losses are all respectable,
Speaker 5: but a great record in the ACC doesn't mean this
Speaker 5: year what it meant in previous years, and look, you
Speaker 5: can't control that. And because it's the first year, and
Speaker 5: I've just kind of been hoping that this team could
Speaker 5: at least just make the tournament, especially after the injuries happened,
Speaker 5: it seemed like maybe they wasn't likely, and now it
Speaker 5: looks like they're in great shape. So you know, I'm
Speaker 5: just going to enjoy the ride, and it's been it's
Speaker 5: been awesome so far. All right, quick break, we'll come
Speaker 5: back on the other side. What I want to get
Speaker 5: to before we get out of here again. We're out
Speaker 5: at four forty five today, so stick around and cherish
Speaker 5: this next hour. It's all you're getting until tomorrow. So
Speaker 5: just you know, don't don't, don't take it for granted.
Speaker 6: And then tomorrow that's all you're getting until you get
Speaker 6: a couple of inches on Sunday.
Speaker 4: That's right today, that's right later on that day.
Speaker 5: So Kentucky fans, I saw it last night on social media,
Speaker 5: and I know it came up on KSR earlier today.
Speaker 5: They were discussing sort of feeling sorry for Caliperry because
Speaker 5: it's you know it again. As I said earlier this week,
Speaker 5: This is not a who's winning the breakup. Kentucky won
Speaker 5: the breakup and they know that. Everybody knows it. And
Speaker 5: now I guess you just you know, I cannot understand
Speaker 5: how they would feel sad for him that he's going
Speaker 5: to fall on his face there and he's doing that
Speaker 5: as we speak. But then again, I thought, you know,
Speaker 5: if you've, if it's been your coach for so long,
Speaker 5: it'd be weird to just within that amount of time
Speaker 5: just all of a sudden hate the guy. But anyways,
Speaker 5: we'll discuss that and a lot more. We've got a
Speaker 5: college football playoff game tonight. We'll get in, we'll get
Speaker 5: into some action on that, So stick with us right
Speaker 5: here on Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 5: So it's tonight Notre Dame favored by one and a half.
Speaker 5: I have no clue what to expect in this matchup
Speaker 5: because Notre Dame, you know, what they did to Georgia
Speaker 5: really impressive and therefore I feel like Notre Dame is
Speaker 5: capable or more than capable of winning the night. But
Speaker 5: I don't have a clue if Penn State is the
Speaker 5: same James Franklin type of team that they've always been,
Speaker 5: or maybe they are like really good. There's really no
Speaker 5: way to know. They haven't lost to anybody that is.
Speaker 5: I mean, the only loss they had this year was
Speaker 5: to who Oregon?
Speaker 4: Was it? Oregon? Ohio? Who do they lose to?
Speaker 5: Because it was one of the teams that you know
Speaker 5: they were supposed to lose to, because that's that's what
Speaker 5: James Franklin does. They they and again there's something to
Speaker 5: be said about never losing a dud and never losing
Speaker 5: the teams that you are, you know, supposed to to beat.
Speaker 4: But when you do that.
Speaker 5: And you never beat the elite teams, it doesn't make
Speaker 5: you bad. In fact, it means you're good. But it's
Speaker 5: just seemingly impossible to know how good you truly are.
Speaker 5: So this Penn State team, they're only lost this year.
Speaker 5: I guess they had two losses. I'm sorry. They lost
Speaker 5: to Ohio State by seven and they lost to Oregon
Speaker 5: by eight in the championship game of the Big Ten.
Speaker 5: So you know they have of I mean, their resume
Speaker 5: says they're good, but like good enough to win the
Speaker 5: national champampionship.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 5: I have I have doubts they did win in overtime
Speaker 5: against usc which would have been would have been an
Speaker 5: outlier for their I mean, they would kept them out
Speaker 5: of the playoff. To be honest with you, so you know,
Speaker 5: I have no clue what to expect. I want to
Speaker 5: take Notre Dame money line, but I also want to
Speaker 5: do a same game parlay, just because you know that
Speaker 5: would give me a little more juice. Total is at
Speaker 5: forty five and a half, I lean under, but then again,
Speaker 5: that's not a whole lot of points. I mean, I
Speaker 5: lean under. Let me let me check my sports line
Speaker 5: here sports line account, because they'll give me a well
Speaker 5: is it gonna let me sign in? Yeah, they'll give
Speaker 5: me the projected score from their simulations, which isn't always accurate,
Speaker 5: but it's at least something to reference. So yeah, currently,
Speaker 5: let's see twenty five to twenty three. That would make
Speaker 5: it forty eight, so that would be the over, right, yeah, Oh,
Speaker 5: let mean double chick, what was the line? Forty five
Speaker 5: and a half, Yeah, it'd be the over. So and
Speaker 5: then again, seeing twenty five to twenty three, I feel
Speaker 5: like that's kind of a low scoring game, and yet
Speaker 5: that would would in fact be over forty four.
Speaker 4: So I hate, I hate totals.
Speaker 5: That are in that range because oh yeah, I mean,
Speaker 5: it's it's there's a reason that they said it that way,
Speaker 5: because they know it. That's the perfect spot for it.
Speaker 5: But you know, I think, let's see here, I'm looking
Speaker 5: at some of these. Yeah, under forty five and a
Speaker 5: half is getting more. Yeah, when it comes to the
Speaker 5: when it comes to the money currently on the total
Speaker 5: here the over under fifty three percent, I'm sorry, fifty
Speaker 5: seven percent of the money.
Speaker 4: Is on, Uh, it is on the over.
Speaker 5: However, sixty two percent of the actual bets, meaning the
Speaker 5: wagers take out the take up, take out the amount
Speaker 5: of money they're betting, but just the actual wagers picking
Speaker 5: this thing to go over, it's up to sixty two percent.
Speaker 5: So I don't know if I want to.
Speaker 4: Ride with everybody else, or at least the ride with
Speaker 4: the majority, or so.
Speaker 6: We're thinking of like a twenty twenty, a twenty one
Speaker 6: to twenty game. Basically you said it was forty You
Speaker 6: said it was forty one, right, or.
Speaker 3: Was forty five?
Speaker 4: It's a forty four and a half was what it
Speaker 4: is right now?
Speaker 3: Actually twenty one to twenty three.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm.
Speaker 5: Sorry, forty it's forty five and a half, and it
Speaker 5: is forty five and a half, and then the projected
Speaker 5: total was forty eight. So if the formula was right,
Speaker 5: then they would go over and look Georgia or not no, sorry,
Speaker 5: Notre Dame. Against Georgia they scored twenty three. But they
Speaker 5: also I think they got a pick six in that.
Speaker 5: I mean, they're not going to try to Neither team
Speaker 5: is really built on tempo or scoring a lot of points.
Speaker 5: They put up twenty seven against Indiana. Against USC they
Speaker 5: scored forty nine, but again USC not necessarily known for defense.
Speaker 5: This past year, Penn State, you know, they put up
Speaker 5: thirty one against Boise, they put up thirty eight against SMU,
Speaker 5: But I think they had twenty one points against SMU
Speaker 5: that came from defense, not exaggerating. I think that's exactly
Speaker 5: what it was. I think twenty one of their of
Speaker 5: their thirty eight were pick sick. They scored thirty seven
Speaker 5: against Oregon, forty four against Maryland. So you know, this
Speaker 5: this Penn State team, they score more than I than
Speaker 5: I give them credit for. But again I think some
Speaker 5: of those some of that stuff. But again, regardless, if
Speaker 5: you're getting points from your defense, that's still getting points.
Speaker 5: And you know, I would imagine just from what I've seen,
Speaker 5: they probably up there when it comes to being able
Speaker 5: to create points from off turnovers in college football this year.
Speaker 3: So Notre Dame.
Speaker 6: Also Notre Dame twenty three against Georgia, twenty seven against Indiana,
Speaker 6: thirty five against USC, forty nine against Army, and thirty
Speaker 6: five against Virginia.
Speaker 5: I just feel like with Notre Dame, it's it's I
Speaker 5: think the reason they were putting up you know, thirty
Speaker 5: five plus, it's because in three straight weeks they played
Speaker 5: USC Army in Virginia. I think once they got to
Speaker 5: Indiana a better defense, they didn't score quite as much.
Speaker 5: And then the way Signetti called that game, I mean,
Speaker 5: is it lame to go under?
Speaker 4: No, I don't mind watching.
Speaker 5: It's to me when it comes to entertainment with wagering,
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, if it's a great game and it's
Speaker 5: exciting and it's a thriller, that's awesome. But like I'm
Speaker 5: still excited if a game's boring, if it means I'm
Speaker 5: I'm going to potentially win. A lot of people are
Speaker 5: like there's no way. That's no way to live betting
Speaker 5: the under, rooting for terrible play where nobody scores, and
Speaker 5: I get all that, but if it's the play and
Speaker 5: it's a win, I'll I'll take that better than an
Speaker 5: exciting game that you know, lost me money.
Speaker 6: So far, in their last five games, when both teams
Speaker 6: have been in sort of close ones, they've been up
Speaker 6: around the twenty to twenty five mark, like, of course,
Speaker 6: against Georgia Notre Dame twenty three points, and then against
Speaker 6: against Minnesota a few weeks about a few weeks ago,
Speaker 6: Penn State only one by one point, twenty six to
Speaker 6: twenty five, and when they lost to Oregon thirty seven
Speaker 6: to forty five. So I mean, they're capable of putting
Speaker 6: up points. I feel like they're tricking us.
Speaker 3: Nick. I kind of like the over in this, but
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have polluted the air.
Speaker 4: No, you're good.
Speaker 5: So the expert here at sports Line, there's three of
Speaker 5: the experts that have decided to take the under, and
Speaker 5: here's their reasoning. This is from Eric Casselis. He says
Speaker 5: that Notre Dame has been lucky to score as much
Speaker 5: as they have. Penn State will run into an Irish D.
Speaker 5: I worry about OT, but otherwise my marvels what an
Speaker 5: Irish d. He worries about OT, but otherwise his model
Speaker 5: says that the under is the play. This is from
Speaker 5: Eric Cohen, who says, unless the fighting Irish turned the
Speaker 5: ball over deep in their own territory, I'm not sure
Speaker 5: I see the Nidney Lions sustaining more than two long
Speaker 5: drives if that. Notre Dame has the fifth best pass
Speaker 5: defense in the country and should keep Drewilar's success to
Speaker 5: a minimum. Not only do I like Marcus Freeman's team
Speaker 5: to win, I expect this one is going to be ugly.
Speaker 5: Take the under Notre Dame nineteen Penn State fourteen.
Speaker 6: Ooh, that's that's a convincing write up.
Speaker 5: I tend to agree. Says here. Also, there's one more
Speaker 5: that did that picked the under. At least I thought
Speaker 5: that I want to to.
Speaker 4: Here we go. Yeah this one. Yeah.
Speaker 5: This is from Emery Hunt. He says, with both teams
Speaker 5: being eerily similar along both sides of the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 5: it makes the chess match between the two teams even
Speaker 5: more important. These teams will play a strong point of
Speaker 5: attack game, and we may be looking at two touchdowns
Speaker 5: and a series of field goals. Yeah, I'm I've been
Speaker 5: convinced to take the under. Yah, that's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go Notre Dame money line and take the under.
Speaker 5: And that's I need a win. After last night. I
Speaker 5: was telling Austin during the break about my bad beat
Speaker 5: and it really, I mean bad beats I think are
Speaker 5: are viewed differently. This this this was just getting it wrong,
Speaker 5: like it's it's so close and it's just coming up short,
Speaker 5: which sucks. But I think bad beats are like fluky
Speaker 5: things happening that you would never expect. That that that
Speaker 5: you know ultimately bend you over and rail you, which
Speaker 5: we've all been there, and it's it's not fun. Yeah,
Speaker 5: not not fun at all. So last night, I've really
Speaker 5: enjoyed the thrill of watching lines change live during games.
Speaker 5: I used to just never even want to look at
Speaker 5: I would be I don't for no reason in particular,
Speaker 5: I was just like, yeah, I don't want to do
Speaker 5: live bets. It was just a different experience for me.
Speaker 5: It was too straight. Well now I look at them
Speaker 5: changing and I can see a team, you know, gets
Speaker 5: like last night, I had a chance to really put
Speaker 5: away a three leg parlay and I came up so short.
Speaker 5: It just it still burns me alive thinking about it.
Speaker 5: So last night Ole Miss and Arkansas were playing, and
Speaker 5: Arkansas got off to a decent start in Faydeville.
Speaker 4: They were at home.
Speaker 5: They were up like eight, between six and eight for
Speaker 5: like the first seven eight minutes of the game. Well
Speaker 5: then Old Miss storm back and they end up winning
Speaker 5: that thing by double digits, and that's kind of what
Speaker 5: I expected to happen.
Speaker 4: So I got Old Miss.
Speaker 5: I mean they were it was like Old Miss plus
Speaker 5: five and a half, and I took Old Miss. Money
Speaker 5: line came through. Same thing with Florida State in Miami.
Speaker 5: Florida State was trailing Miami a little bit early, but
Speaker 5: Florida State's better than Miami. Miami's been getting killed all year.
Speaker 5: Like I knew eventually Florida State would take over, and
Speaker 5: they did. They won by double digits. So same thing.
Speaker 5: They're like five six and a half point underdogs, and
Speaker 5: I take the money line. So those were you know,
Speaker 5: those have a lot of value. There are a lot
Speaker 5: of juice. And then USC and Indiana. I'm watching this game.
Speaker 5: It was a slower start than they initially expect did
Speaker 5: so the total was set at one fifty one and
Speaker 5: a half with like ten minutes left in the first half.
Speaker 5: I said, okay, I think this is going to go over.
Speaker 5: The Hoosiers are scoring and that that's the pace right now.
Speaker 5: Let's let's hit the over and sure enough, you know
Speaker 5: the hook will get you. The game ended up with
Speaker 5: a total of one to fifty one, and I bet
Speaker 5: one fifty one and a half and that got me,
Speaker 5: so you know, it's part of the game. But needless
Speaker 5: to say, I'm in need for a win tonight, so
Speaker 5: let's hope.
Speaker 4: That one comes through.
Speaker 5: I love it, believe it, in the power of positivity,
Speaker 5: speaking it into existence. Good stuff there, all right, quick break,
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