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<v Speaker 1>Being Company with Nick Coffee today at three on Sports

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<v Speaker 1>Talk seven ninety, and.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven ninety, Holy crap, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know who the hell we think when we are get.

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<v Speaker 2>Off our show, idiot.

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<v Speaker 1>The kids are crying or turning off, crying.

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<v Speaker 3>The countries are.

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<v Speaker 2>Screwing it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play Inner Murals.

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<v Speaker 4>They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 3>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding me? Now? Here's Nick Coffee?

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<v Speaker 5>All right, Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome in to

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<v Speaker 5>a Thursday edition of Coffee and Company, Nick Coffee. That's

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<v Speaker 5>me Austin Montgomery alongside, fueled by Thornton's taking you up

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<v Speaker 5>till six o'clock kick back, Relax, make yourself at home,

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<v Speaker 5>get warm because it's really really cold outside. Austin said

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<v Speaker 5>it right about five minutes ago that the cold weather

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<v Speaker 5>it's just, I mean, it sucks. It's today's the day

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<v Speaker 5>where it seems like clearly it's been really cold lately.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why we've got snow still piled up all over

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<v Speaker 5>the city. But today when I walked outside, even though

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<v Speaker 5>it's really sunny, kind of deceiving.

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<v Speaker 4>It is freezing outside.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't stand it.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the deception of walking outside and seeing like through

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<v Speaker 6>your window that like, oh my god, there's sun and

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<v Speaker 6>absolutely nothing has melted.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like today's one of the brightest days ever.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure it's not. It's it's it's just maybe we

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<v Speaker 5>haven't had much sun. But man, it is bright as

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<v Speaker 5>can be outside. And yes, it is deceiving. You think

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<v Speaker 5>maybe they'd be melting some of this stuff, but not really.

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<v Speaker 5>It's still freezing, and we got more winter storms heading

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<v Speaker 5>our way.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean, look at you. You're layered up. Mind,

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<v Speaker 3>I am a good jacket and a hoodie.

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<v Speaker 6>And man, these studios and they usually are typically warm,

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<v Speaker 6>but it's it's tough to adjust after coming from us.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yes, and I made the mistake. It's usually not

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<v Speaker 5>that big of a deal. But I was running errands

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<v Speaker 5>earlier today and I got back to the house and

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<v Speaker 5>I pulled in the garage and I did not shut

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<v Speaker 5>the garage. I just left the garage open, went inside.

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<v Speaker 5>Was probably in there for I don't know, maybe forty

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<v Speaker 5>five minutes before I headed back out to come to

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<v Speaker 5>come to work, and it was insane how quick my

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<v Speaker 5>car froze. And again it wasn't that, you know, it

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<v Speaker 5>was it was covered too, I mean it was in

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<v Speaker 5>the garage just with that wind whipping in.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's it's cold outside.

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<v Speaker 5>And according to our partners over at wk Y, the

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<v Speaker 5>winter storm watch has been issued and I guess it'll

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<v Speaker 5>start technically tomorrow tomorrow afternoon, but yes, it's a widespread

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<v Speaker 5>two to five inches of snow will be possible for

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<v Speaker 5>this area. Says here that the storm will will have

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<v Speaker 5>some noticeable differences. All precipitation will fall in the form

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<v Speaker 5>of snow, so I guess we don't have to worry

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<v Speaker 5>about any of the uh, you know, the ice and

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<v Speaker 5>the freezing stuff that we got. But that also, uh

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<v Speaker 5>means we've got more snow that's just gonna fall and

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<v Speaker 5>layer on what is already just a bunch of ice.

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<v Speaker 5>That's That's what's really stood out in the last two

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<v Speaker 5>days for me is that clearly there's a whole lot

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<v Speaker 5>of snow, and a lot of it's been shoveled and

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<v Speaker 5>moved and at least on the main roads and parking,

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<v Speaker 5>lots of that kind of stuff. But there's still a

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<v Speaker 5>ton of ice out there, which of course is you know,

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<v Speaker 5>really dangerous. But it looks like tomorrow around by the time.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess it depends on where you are. But if

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<v Speaker 5>you are in you know, the Louisville area, that's that's

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<v Speaker 5>a big general area. But it seems like eleven am,

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<v Speaker 5>it's gonna start heading you know, it'll be it'll be

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<v Speaker 5>coming from the Evansville Owensboro area, so it'll be heading east,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess northeast towards US and by about uh, let's

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<v Speaker 5>see here, you know, when you get to five o'clock,

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<v Speaker 5>that's about whenever it's gonna be you know, at its

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<v Speaker 5>at its heaviest, I suppose, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Other words get used to it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And so like my wife, they've already said that

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<v Speaker 5>they're gonna send their their employees home at one o'clock tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 5>which which you know that that tells me that they

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<v Speaker 5>are they're that worried about it. This is she works

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<v Speaker 5>in the financial industry. So therefore banks, credit unions to

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<v Speaker 5>that kind of stuff. They usually don't Cloe. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>people need their money, they're they're they're usually going to

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<v Speaker 5>be open if possible, regardless of weather. So I guess

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<v Speaker 5>leaving early will get you out maybe home before it

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<v Speaker 5>starts getting real bad. I uh, I'm going to Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 5>this weekend, which I mean, I'm that's the plan.

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<v Speaker 4>But here's here's our here's here's what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm now getting a little worried because, uh, I

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<v Speaker 5>night up to Pittsburgh. So here's what we decided to do.

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<v Speaker 5>We're gonna leave right after the show Tomorrow's. So my dad,

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<v Speaker 5>he lives across the river here in Jeffersonville, He'll have

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<v Speaker 5>my nephew and my my son, and then I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 5>go pick them up right after the show, and we're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna head to Columbus and stay in Columbus, Ohio for

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<v Speaker 5>the night, get up and get to Pittsburgh in the

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<v Speaker 5>morning and the games at noon, and then we'll have

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<v Speaker 5>a day there and we will be rooting for the

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<v Speaker 5>Ravens against the Steelers while we're in Pittsburgh, so we

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<v Speaker 5>got to be a little careful about that. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 5>while driving up to Columbus, like I feel like I

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<v Speaker 5>may be like I'm basically going to be riding with

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<v Speaker 5>the snowstorm up to that exact area, which not ideal.

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<v Speaker 3>Great.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so I mean I'm not going to cancel the trip.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I know, I don't. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 5>We're gonna try to We're gonna make it work. Like

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<v Speaker 5>maybe we end up realizing that we have to stop

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<v Speaker 5>a little sooner than Columbus because we just want to

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<v Speaker 5>get somewhere, stay the night and let this storm ride out.

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<v Speaker 5>And I would assume the more north we go, the

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<v Speaker 5>more prepared those areas are going to be for a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of snow. But yeah, this is the first time.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe this is just karma coming back on me because

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<v Speaker 5>I happen to love the snow that we got a

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<v Speaker 5>few days ago.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been a little bit of a weird week with

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<v Speaker 5>Not being in school and my my son's daycare is

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<v Speaker 5>closed and all that. But you know, I snowstorms and

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<v Speaker 5>sort of what they bring until you know it really

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<v Speaker 5>inconveniences you, uh, And if in fact we get what

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<v Speaker 5>they're expecting tomorrow, I have a feeling it's gonna be me.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's thinking. Yeah, this sucks. It's kind of pretty.

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<v Speaker 5>But man, when you actually want to go do stuff

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<v Speaker 5>and mother Nature gets in the way, that's that's when

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<v Speaker 5>you you know you hate her. So anyways, prepare yourself.

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<v Speaker 5>The cold weather will be here at least for the

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<v Speaker 5>next couple of days, and we got more snow expected tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, so a lot to get into here for

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<v Speaker 5>these next three hours. I mean, there is a ton

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<v Speaker 5>I want to to try to run down until or

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<v Speaker 5>I'll start with just some big, big breaking news. Of course,

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<v Speaker 5>We've got a college football playoff matchup tonight Penn State

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<v Speaker 5>and Notre Dame. Notre Dame currently favored about point and

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<v Speaker 5>a half. But about an hour ago news broke that

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<v Speaker 5>Carson Beck, the Georgia quarterback, who wasn't he a part

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<v Speaker 5>of I mean, did he? I know he's been there

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<v Speaker 5>for a while and he's been really good. But did

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<v Speaker 5>he win a championship with Georgia.

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<v Speaker 3>Or was it last time the Bennett?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I think didn't Stetson Bennett win two? I think he did.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't remember because they went back to back, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>Beck wasn't. He wasn't. Uh, it wasn't behind him, was he?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So so he's been there the whole time.

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<v Speaker 5>He took over in twenty twenty three, which was last season,

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<v Speaker 5>and then this current season he was. So he's there

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<v Speaker 5>been their starting quarterback twice, and that was the two

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<v Speaker 5>years that they did not they did not win the

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<v Speaker 5>National Championship and they kind of took a step back.

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<v Speaker 4>However, he's he's in the transfer portal.

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<v Speaker 5>He had initially announced he was going to go to

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<v Speaker 5>the NFL Draft, but just about everybody I heard talking

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<v Speaker 5>ready to play in the NFL now and maybe ever.

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<v Speaker 5>So he's now decided to enter the portal, and clearly

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<v Speaker 5>there's going to be a lot of interest. I've seen

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<v Speaker 5>that this is apparently already a done deal that he's well,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess, not official, but it sounds like he was

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<v Speaker 5>looking to go to the NFL d and that was

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<v Speaker 5>his plan until somebody from Miami got a hold of

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<v Speaker 5>him or his representation and said, look, we'll give you

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<v Speaker 5>this if you don't go to the NFL Draft and

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<v Speaker 5>you come back to college and play for US, and

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<v Speaker 5>I would imagine that was probably a pretty big time offer.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's just huge news. And that's where we are

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<v Speaker 4>in college sports.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, clearly it's going to be a big talking point,

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<v Speaker 5>and it already is as we speak, probably all across

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<v Speaker 5>the country for those who cover and love college football.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's not necessarily big news because you're just like stunned.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you're going to see prominent players who played

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<v Speaker 5>for some of the best. I mean, we've already seen it.

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<v Speaker 5>There's examples of it out there in college basketball.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously.

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<v Speaker 5>You know Caleb Love and he's been around for a

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<v Speaker 5>long time. Right started his career at Carolina, was a

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<v Speaker 5>big time player, took them all the way to the

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<v Speaker 5>National Championship game, and then decided to transfer to Arizona.

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<v Speaker 5>I kind of feel like maybe Hunter Dickinson could fit

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<v Speaker 5>into that example. But Michigan wasn't great, but clearly he

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<v Speaker 5>was one of the best players in the country and

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<v Speaker 5>certainly a prominent guy for a team that underwhelmed, of course,

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<v Speaker 5>but still you know, solid, so people knew who he was,

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<v Speaker 5>and then he goes to Kansas, one of the premier programs.

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<v Speaker 5>So it still at times hits me like, wow, this

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<v Speaker 5>is so new in the grand scheme of things, right,

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<v Speaker 5>like college sports for the forever was was pretty it

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<v Speaker 5>was much, to put it lightly, much different. But what

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<v Speaker 5>I was getting at is you just had the same

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<v Speaker 5>exact system for decades generations, right, the old amateurism model

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<v Speaker 5>that they tried to stick with, And that really isn't that.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, that's the biggest reason why we're in this

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<v Speaker 5>position now, why it's such a free for all. There's

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<v Speaker 5>get away with it. All of that is due to

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<v Speaker 4>However, just think about Russ. Russ came back after Louisville.

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<v Speaker 5>So imagine if you know, there's a team out there

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<v Speaker 5>And I mean, I doubt he would do it, and

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<v Speaker 4>Like I think he would have. But that kind of

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<v Speaker 5>It wasn't even something anybody ever thought about because it

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<v Speaker 5>That's where it just you know, it's in your face.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you still you go watch, you know, because

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<v Speaker 5>like it's a job. But you can go to Nightshall

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<v Speaker 5>and watch Scott Davenport and Bellerman play Stetson and you

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<v Speaker 5>won't really think about that, right, But when you get

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<v Speaker 5>to the higher level, you know, it's in your face.

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<v Speaker 4>These guys are making a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 5>They got you know, fancy cars, and they're you know,

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<v Speaker 5>they've they're larger than life and they're probably making big,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that seems that seems.

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<v Speaker 5>Far fetched, but it's not crazy, right, I mean, who

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<v Speaker 5>in the portal?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean the huge nil deal.

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<v Speaker 5>but you would have if Louisville, if Louisville was was

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<v Speaker 5>willing to bid the highest. They've been paying that guy

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<v Speaker 5>more than they pay their coach. Like, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 5>just it's it's it's very much pro sports directly in

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<v Speaker 5>your face. And I'm not like I'm I'm i don't.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't ever want I'm not I'm not kidding you.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm stuttering here because I was trying to rack

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<v Speaker 5>think I've ever once while watching my team play or

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<v Speaker 5>another team play, I never have once thought about guys

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<v Speaker 5>being paid to play, Like it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Never even entered my mind.

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<v Speaker 5>Now maybe, you know, maybe it will at some point

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<v Speaker 5>and I'll start thinking, hey, we're not getting a great

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it doesn't bother me, but there are some

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<v Speaker 5>the love of the game, it turns them off. And

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<v Speaker 5>I don't really I can't relate, But you know, everybody's different.

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<v Speaker 5>In fact, since we're talking in ail stuff, let me

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<v Speaker 5>an assistant coach during the Christmas break, just catching up

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<v Speaker 5>with some friends and one of my buddies.

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<v Speaker 6>You're an assistant coach, by the way, am I.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought you're assistant coach.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh And and man, I'm glad you brought that up

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<v Speaker 5>So because we're going to the game in Pittsburgh, me

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<v Speaker 5>Mason's Pop Paul, of course, my dad and my nephew Luke.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, he knows we're going to watch the Cards

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<v Speaker 5>play and he knows that, like you know, we're excited.

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<v Speaker 5>And last night at dinner, he said, do you are

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<v Speaker 5>are you going to tell Pat Kelsey that Pop Paul

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<v Speaker 5>can help him coach if he needs him. And I

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<v Speaker 5>thought it was the sweetest thing ever. And I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>know that, because yeah, you might need his help.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's right.

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<v Speaker 5>And then he told my dad to make sure and

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<v Speaker 6>I love the other day when we were at the

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, like at halftime, who's winning? Like at that stuff's.

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<v Speaker 4>Very he was winning. Are we winning? Do we like them?

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<v Speaker 6>He's just cheering. He doesn't even care if they lose

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<v Speaker 6>him winning. He's just cheering. I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 5>He asks a billion questions an hour, it seems, and

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<v Speaker 5>I can. But anyways, back to the conversation about the

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<v Speaker 5>assistant coach I was talking to, And I never would

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<v Speaker 5>have thought of this, but this makes total sense if

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<v Speaker 5>you're an assistant coach in your you know, at A

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<v Speaker 5>any level, like the highest level. I was gonna say

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<v Speaker 5>the the guy that I'm referencing coaches at the lower level.

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<v Speaker 5>But if you've got four players on the team making

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<v Speaker 5>But I mean, I feel like that could cause a riff.

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<v Speaker 5>Like there's nothing you can do about it. If you're

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<v Speaker 5>we need to have money available to go pay these players.

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<v Speaker 5>But once you realize that these guys are making more

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<v Speaker 5>you think, man, this isn't the industry I got into.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't like coaching guys, Like how can I How

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<v Speaker 5>can I coach these guys up and really command their

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<v Speaker 5>respect whenever they know that they're making more money than

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<v Speaker 5>me and I'm I'm a coach, I'm an authoritative figure

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<v Speaker 5>like I could it could get in your head. So

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<v Speaker 5>he brought it up because he said there have been

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<v Speaker 5>some programs that he knows that have had some real

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<v Speaker 5>turmoil within just because the environment's just off, because it's

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<v Speaker 5>just like it's it's it's it's not ideal, and and

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<v Speaker 5>that's something that probably doesn't get enough credit. And I

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<v Speaker 5>don't mean for any specific program around here, but I

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<v Speaker 5>feel like it would be very difficult when you have

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<v Speaker 5>they're getting paid different amounts. It's one thing if if

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<v Speaker 5>with some of these guys as far as why they

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<v Speaker 5>and again I feel like that would be more difficult

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<v Speaker 5>to do the people realize. But maybe I'm not giving

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<v Speaker 5>you know, these guys credit as far as maturity, because

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<v Speaker 5>that's life, right, Like, let's be honest. There's a guy

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<v Speaker 5>down the hall, he's balled, he's beautiful, he's on a

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<v Speaker 5>different radio station right now. He makes probably a lot

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<v Speaker 5>more money than I do. And like I'm not I

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<v Speaker 5>get that, Like I'm not. That's not something where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 5>wait a second, because Terry's you know, clearly in a

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<v Speaker 4>So you know that that's life. But just because you would.

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<v Speaker 5>You you know, just because you know, going in to

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<v Speaker 5>any career path that like you're gonna end up working

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<v Speaker 5>with people that do different jobs than you at that

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<v Speaker 5>same company. They're going to make more money. It's just

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<v Speaker 5>how it is. These guys that are playing college basketball.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, some of these guys that are playing college basketball,

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<v Speaker 5>when they started playing, this wasn't a thing. So like

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<v Speaker 5>not immaturity. But it's just it's one thing when you're

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<v Speaker 4>At this as a job.

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<v Speaker 5>Just yet it is, and they're utilizing that component to

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<v Speaker 5>make the most out of the situation. Right, stick out

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<v Speaker 5>or hang out in college as long as you want,

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<v Speaker 5>and try to put away a lot of money before

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<v Speaker 5>you start your career after sports because you're not a pro.

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<v Speaker 5>Like in that aspect, they are realizing. But like, I don't,

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<v Speaker 5>as a job. Like you still have to have a giba. Damn,

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<v Speaker 5>programs that are struggling, but yet you know they should

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<v Speaker 5>business transaction. There wasn't as much hunger and real energy

423
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<v Speaker 5>towards competing and really winning at a high level as

424
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<v Speaker 5>a team and balancing all that is is just a

425
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<v Speaker 5>new challenge that we have here in college sports.

426
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<v Speaker 6>And we're still in the new stages of that to

427
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<v Speaker 6>where it doesn't seem like a job now, but think

428
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<v Speaker 6>three four years down the line, where these guys are

429
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<v Speaker 6>going to seem like, I mean, it might come to

430
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<v Speaker 6>contracts by that point, these guys are going to seem

431
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<v Speaker 6>like highly contracted, sought after guys. And you look at

432
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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you just mentioned that players could be possibly

433
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<v Speaker 6>make it more money than the coach. And remember a

434
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<v Speaker 6>couple of years ago when the first debate about nil

435
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<v Speaker 6>and players getting paid was happening, It was a lot

436
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<v Speaker 6>of concern was talking about the locker room, Well this

437
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<v Speaker 6>guy might get paid more than this other player, the player,

438
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<v Speaker 6>not the coach. And then when you're seeing things like

439
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<v Speaker 6>on x or on social media where you're seeing like

440
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<v Speaker 6>a fifth year senior that's either thinking about transfer or staying,

441
00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:05.519
<v Speaker 6>they're using terms like quote, agreed to terms to stay

442
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<v Speaker 6>at this school.

443
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<v Speaker 3>They're agreeing to terms.

444
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<v Speaker 6>Basically like signing a new contract, and like it's absolutely insane.

445
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<v Speaker 4>It is, and I think.

446
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<v Speaker 5>In a way, because before nil, these guys got what's

447
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<v Speaker 5>called like cost of living, which was like a stipend

448
00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:22.480
<v Speaker 5>to where they were. They were able to make a

449
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<v Speaker 5>little money and clearly they didn't have to pay for anything,

450
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<v Speaker 5>so you know, they weren't clear. But the whole argument

451
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<v Speaker 5>was that the NSABA is making a ton of money

452
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<v Speaker 5>off of what they do, and they are part of

453
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<v Speaker 5>their employee. They are employees, and they should they should

454
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<v Speaker 5>get a revenue share, and that's that's that's what that's

455
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<v Speaker 5>what this recent lawsuit did in fact decide. However, you know,

456
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<v Speaker 5>whenever the players are going to be paid next year,

457
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<v Speaker 5>I think it is right the revenue share that's coming

458
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<v Speaker 5>where all the schools have to I mean, you can,

459
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<v Speaker 5>you can pay up to I think it's twenty and

460
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<v Speaker 5>a half or twenty two million dollars.

461
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<v Speaker 4>That's what you're allowed to share. That's the max.

462
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<v Speaker 5>So obviously with that, I think you will see guys

463
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<v Speaker 5>kind of like from that standpoint. I could be wrong here,

464
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<v Speaker 5>but I feel like it will be okay, eighty percents

465
00:21:05.240 --> 00:21:07.359
<v Speaker 5>going to football. We are going to split that up

466
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<v Speaker 5>between all the scholarship players, and that's still going to

467
00:21:09.519 --> 00:21:12.559
<v Speaker 5>be a lot of money for these guys. But and

468
00:21:13.480 --> 00:21:15.839
<v Speaker 5>at that point, if if that was it and that's

469
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<v Speaker 5>just how they're getting paid now truly a revenue share,

470
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<v Speaker 5>and they're still making a lot of money, that would

471
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<v Speaker 5>make it to where it's back to kind of the

472
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<v Speaker 5>stipend thing, to where it's just like everybody's getting the

473
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<v Speaker 5>same so it's whatever, Like it's not really it's just

474
00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:29.880
<v Speaker 5>you know, you're not really competing for more. You're getting

475
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<v Speaker 5>what you're getting. They're getting what they're getting. It's the

476
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<v Speaker 5>same thing.

477
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<v Speaker 4>Who cares. But NIL is still going to exist.

478
00:21:34.799 --> 00:21:39.119
<v Speaker 5>Therefore, I mean you're still going to see guys that

479
00:21:39.160 --> 00:21:40.960
<v Speaker 5>are going to get whatever they're getting from the revenue

480
00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:45.359
<v Speaker 5>share and the kicker because again I would say, Bama, Georgia,

481
00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:47.920
<v Speaker 5>any power program that wants to succeed is going to

482
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<v Speaker 5>be able to it's going to have to maximize and

483
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<v Speaker 5>say we're sharing the most they're going to allow us

484
00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:55.359
<v Speaker 5>to share. So when every school is basically offering the

485
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<v Speaker 5>same amount because of the max then we're right back

486
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<v Speaker 5>to this point of Okay, well, whoever can throw the

487
00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:03.240
<v Speaker 5>biggest NIL deal out there, that's what's going to get me.

488
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<v Speaker 5>Because I you know, when it comes to picking the

489
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<v Speaker 5>school's pre and ile. It's the same thing. So anyways,

490
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<v Speaker 5>quick break, we'll come back. Keep this thing rolling along.

491
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<v Speaker 5>It's coffee and company, and we are fueled by Thornton's

492
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<v Speaker 5>right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

493
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<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

494
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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

495
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<v Speaker 4>I should have mentioned this earlier, but I forgot. We

496
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<v Speaker 4>are actually out of here early.

497
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<v Speaker 5>Today because of a basketball game that'll be broadcast here,

498
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<v Speaker 5>so we will be with you for roughly the next

499
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<v Speaker 5>hour and fifteen minutes. Four forty five, is is that right?

500
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<v Speaker 3>Yep?

501
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<v Speaker 5>All right, So we'll make hard out hard what heard

502
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<v Speaker 5>out hard out hard out hard hot hard end hard.

503
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<v Speaker 4>On Okay, make it sure heart out we four forty

504
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<v Speaker 4>five today, so t.

505
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<v Speaker 3>Ever hard way you like it.

506
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<v Speaker 5>Actually, we will make the most of the time that

507
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<v Speaker 5>we do have here. And this person on the text

508
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<v Speaker 5>line says Nick Pittsburgh native, But I went to u

509
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<v Speaker 5>OFL glad to hear you're coming up with the game.

510
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<v Speaker 4>Hit me up and I'll get you a beer.

511
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<v Speaker 5>Don't tell me that and then and then be surprised

512
00:23:05.160 --> 00:23:06.480
<v Speaker 5>when I do hit you up, like I have your

513
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<v Speaker 5>I have your number, now you're on the text line.

514
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<v Speaker 3>And a beer. How silly of him?

515
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, how about how about a beer from

516
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<v Speaker 5>old man? I mean, how about a beer from my

517
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<v Speaker 5>how about a beer for my son?

518
00:23:16.839 --> 00:23:20.279
<v Speaker 4>That would be wrong? Kidding? Uh? How generous are you

519
00:23:20.319 --> 00:23:20.720
<v Speaker 4>willing to be?

520
00:23:20.759 --> 00:23:23.319
<v Speaker 5>No, I'm kidding uh, And it be awesome And and

521
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<v Speaker 5>look if I'm not going to stalk you or anything

522
00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:27.680
<v Speaker 5>like that, but if you see me and you know

523
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<v Speaker 5>you do want to offer me a beer, I'm not.

524
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<v Speaker 5>I am not against uh taking free beer from people

525
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<v Speaker 5>who want to who want to offer. So their arena

526
00:23:35.799 --> 00:23:41.359
<v Speaker 5>in in uh in Pittsburgh is probably that's the Zoo, right, Yes,

527
00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:44.960
<v Speaker 5>it's one of the newer Maybe I'm wrong. The Peterson

528
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<v Speaker 5>Event Center is what it's called. And it's on campus

529
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<v Speaker 5>and it's it's beautiful. It's perfect size as far as

530
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<v Speaker 5>like you don't have to have a ton of people

531
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<v Speaker 5>there for to be a pretty rowdy atmosphere, and it's nice,

532
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<v Speaker 5>like I want, I wanted to say that it's it's

533
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<v Speaker 5>one of the newer arenas in the A C C.

534
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<v Speaker 5>The Young Sinner what ten years old now or actually

535
00:24:01.440 --> 00:24:01.880
<v Speaker 5>longer than that.

536
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's twenty Yeah, it's so.

537
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<v Speaker 4>Other than that.

538
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<v Speaker 5>And I'm sure there are plenty of others that I

539
00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:12.200
<v Speaker 5>just don't know about that are new, but when I went.

540
00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:14.680
<v Speaker 5>In fact, i've been to pitt twice for Louisville games.

541
00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:18.039
<v Speaker 5>Went the last year of coach Mack, and then I

542
00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:22.960
<v Speaker 5>went the year before that in the COVID year whenever

543
00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:25.920
<v Speaker 5>they played up there and went to overtime. But anyways,

544
00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:27.519
<v Speaker 5>it's a really nice venue.

545
00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:30.359
<v Speaker 4>Pittsburgh. Again, we talked about it not that long ago.

546
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<v Speaker 5>I feel like it it's a city that when it

547
00:24:32.960 --> 00:24:36.880
<v Speaker 5>comes up in casual social conversations, there's not many people

548
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<v Speaker 5>gonna go out of their way to say anything positive

549
00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:41.400
<v Speaker 5>about it, not saying it's gonna be getting dumped on

550
00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:44.480
<v Speaker 5>all the time, like Cleveland, Like Cleveland, in Buffalo, I

551
00:24:44.519 --> 00:24:47.359
<v Speaker 5>feel like our cities that everybody's like, yeah, those places suck, though,

552
00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:50.000
<v Speaker 5>and I have no reason to think that they do

553
00:24:50.119 --> 00:24:52.400
<v Speaker 5>or don't. I don't know, but nonetheless, Pittsburgh's not to

554
00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:54.960
<v Speaker 5>that level. But I just don't feel like people realize

555
00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:57.079
<v Speaker 5>it's actually an awesome city. It's a great sports town,

556
00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:00.680
<v Speaker 5>probably not great in the winters, but it's beautiful this

557
00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:04.640
<v Speaker 5>time of year, and it's it's awesome. So I'm looking

558
00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:06.400
<v Speaker 5>forward to to going up there, and I'm hoping that

559
00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:09.160
<v Speaker 5>Louisville can bring back a victory because it would certainly

560
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<v Speaker 5>be a big one. And Pitt I have no clue

561
00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:14.480
<v Speaker 5>anytime I've you got to keep in mind, pitt has

562
00:25:14.519 --> 00:25:18.640
<v Speaker 5>been terrible in basketball for a long time, and this

563
00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:22.039
<v Speaker 5>year I think it's Cable's one of his best teams.

564
00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:23.799
<v Speaker 5>I mean, he's had a couple of good teams, Like

565
00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:27.839
<v Speaker 5>he really kind of, you know, saved his job in

566
00:25:27.839 --> 00:25:29.880
<v Speaker 5>the last few years because I feel like, and how

567
00:25:29.920 --> 00:25:30.480
<v Speaker 5>long has he been there.

568
00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:31.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna look it up now.

569
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<v Speaker 5>Because Cable took over for Stallings, who of course replaced

570
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<v Speaker 5>and Jamie Dixon, and clearly Stallings, I mean was one

571
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<v Speaker 5>of the worst hires you'll ever see. I mean at

572
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<v Speaker 5>the time, I kind of actually know at the time

573
00:25:44.680 --> 00:25:47.119
<v Speaker 5>he'd run it'd run its course with Stallings at Vandy,

574
00:25:47.119 --> 00:25:49.720
<v Speaker 5>and Vandy was elated that that Pittsburgh wanted him, so

575
00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:52.039
<v Speaker 5>they got rid of him. And he was really really

576
00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:54.160
<v Speaker 5>bad at pitt I mean, didn't they go like two

577
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<v Speaker 5>years I think without winning a league game.

578
00:25:56.559 --> 00:25:58.359
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they was pretty bad. They were a bad star.

579
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so Caple's been there since twenty eighteen, and he

580
00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:08.119
<v Speaker 5>never won more than six games in acc play. In fact,

581
00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:10.680
<v Speaker 5>he went three and fifteen, six and fourteen, six and ten,

582
00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:13.640
<v Speaker 5>six and fourteen in his first four years, and I

583
00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:15.519
<v Speaker 5>think at that point you started to think, Okay, are

584
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<v Speaker 5>they gonna are they gonna keep this guy? And then

585
00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:21.559
<v Speaker 5>since then, I mean, he's he's done well. He I mean, well,

586
00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:23.680
<v Speaker 5>he's done a lot better, I should say. I still

587
00:26:23.680 --> 00:26:25.799
<v Speaker 5>feel like though at times they've had teams where I'm like,

588
00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:27.759
<v Speaker 5>you all should be better, Like you have good players,

589
00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:30.759
<v Speaker 5>they always play tough, they're physical, usually have some good

590
00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:32.839
<v Speaker 5>balance as far as leading scorers. But yeah, in twenty

591
00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:36.279
<v Speaker 5>twenty three they made it to the round of thirty two.

592
00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:38.279
<v Speaker 5>They went fourteen and six in the league. Last year

593
00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:41.519
<v Speaker 5>they were twelve and eight, and I don't think they

594
00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:44.319
<v Speaker 5>made the tournament. Maybe I'm wrong. But then this year

595
00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:45.920
<v Speaker 5>they're off to a good start again. I think it's

596
00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:48.000
<v Speaker 5>one of his better teams, maybe his best team. So

597
00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:49.559
<v Speaker 5>I say all that to say, I have no clue

598
00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:51.079
<v Speaker 5>what their crowd is going to be like, because when

599
00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:53.759
<v Speaker 5>they were good, like back in the prime Big East days,

600
00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:55.880
<v Speaker 5>right like twenty I mean got to keep in mind

601
00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:58.079
<v Speaker 5>for a while when Louisville was in a really good

602
00:26:58.119 --> 00:27:01.640
<v Speaker 5>stretch there with t will Earl k that era. Pitt

603
00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:04.000
<v Speaker 5>was up there with them every year. Oh dude, Dewan

604
00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:07.200
<v Speaker 5>Blair absolutely hated lev Ance Fields.

605
00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:09.960
<v Speaker 4>Remember that guy. Oh dude, yeah, Gary McGee like they.

606
00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:12.839
<v Speaker 3>Had it's a guy that got crossed by m it is.

607
00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:16.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, in goodness, gracious he was. He was an interesting

608
00:27:16.920 --> 00:27:17.440
<v Speaker 5>looking guy.

609
00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:18.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

610
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:22.440
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, So this pit team, you know, when they're good,

611
00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:24.240
<v Speaker 5>I feel like they have great support, like their students.

612
00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:29.319
<v Speaker 5>I remember it was the duo of David Paget and

613
00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:33.559
<v Speaker 5>Derek Character in two thousand and eight where Character had

614
00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:34.960
<v Speaker 5>a hell of a game. I mean, he was a

615
00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:36.440
<v Speaker 5>talented guy, and I feel like that was like the

616
00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:38.119
<v Speaker 5>first time he played where you're like, Okay, this guy's

617
00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:40.640
<v Speaker 5>pretty special. But yeah, they had Aaron Gray, remember the

618
00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:43.559
<v Speaker 5>big old white guy they had. Cam and Blair played together,

619
00:27:43.799 --> 00:27:46.319
<v Speaker 5>and I remember Character and Paget kind of got the

620
00:27:46.359 --> 00:27:48.720
<v Speaker 5>best of that duo, which was kind of surprising considering

621
00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:51.039
<v Speaker 5>how good Pitt was. And I just remember winning there

622
00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:53.160
<v Speaker 5>and it being a big win and their crowd being

623
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:56.880
<v Speaker 5>like really crazy. So the last few times I've gone.

624
00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:57.599
<v Speaker 5>It hasn't been that.

625
00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:00.400
<v Speaker 6>Their crowd was like so it seemed to at least

626
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.160
<v Speaker 6>on TV, was so close to the court. Yes, like

627
00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:05.559
<v Speaker 6>and you just see that whole student section from the

628
00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:06.640
<v Speaker 6>hardcam side.

629
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:07.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was.

630
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:09.920
<v Speaker 5>Uh, I mean they had a great run and then

631
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:11.640
<v Speaker 5>I mean they kind of fell off in a way

632
00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:15.200
<v Speaker 5>to where you're thinking, like, man, well, in fact, I'll

633
00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.160
<v Speaker 5>just I don't want to act like they're terrible, because again,

634
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:20.640
<v Speaker 5>it would be a humongous win for Louisville thing go

635
00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:24.200
<v Speaker 5>on the road and get it done. But Pitt, I mean,

636
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:27.119
<v Speaker 5>they're kind of an example that when you are not

637
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:30.799
<v Speaker 5>only irrelevant, but like really bad consistently for many many

638
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:33.880
<v Speaker 5>years and just not a threat at all. I kind

639
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:35.799
<v Speaker 5>of forgot that they were really good at one point,

640
00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:37.079
<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean, Like it wasn't just like

641
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:38.319
<v Speaker 5>they had one all.

642
00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:42.920
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't like they had one is it? What's is it?

643
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:44.759
<v Speaker 4>Andy Dick? What is is it? Jamie Dixon?

644
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:45.480
<v Speaker 3>Jamie Dixon?

645
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:48.000
<v Speaker 5>Okay, I think I said something wrong the wrong name earlier.

646
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:51.359
<v Speaker 5>In fact, yeah I did, so Jamie Dixon was there,

647
00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:53.559
<v Speaker 5>and again now that we're talking about it, I totally

648
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:57.319
<v Speaker 5>remember it. But like, I mean, they were really good.

649
00:28:57.799 --> 00:29:01.200
<v Speaker 5>We're talking, you know, sweet sixty two of his first

650
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:05.720
<v Speaker 5>four years Elite eight, like they never broke through to

651
00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:07.640
<v Speaker 5>go to the final four with him, but they had

652
00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:10.160
<v Speaker 5>They had some really good teams. I mean, in two

653
00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:13.319
<v Speaker 5>thousand and nine they were thirty one and five fifteen

654
00:29:13.319 --> 00:29:16.440
<v Speaker 5>and three in the Big East. The next year they

655
00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:18.240
<v Speaker 5>were twenty five and nine, thirteen and five in the

656
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:20.640
<v Speaker 5>Big East. I mean, they had some really really good teams.

657
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:24.000
<v Speaker 5>And when you fall off like they did, I mean

658
00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:27.119
<v Speaker 5>two thousand and and I guess really the last two

659
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:29.200
<v Speaker 5>years of I could really last four years were kind

660
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:32.200
<v Speaker 5>of a drop off for him at Pitt but they

661
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:33.119
<v Speaker 5>were still solid.

662
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:34.799
<v Speaker 4>And then they made the move to.

663
00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:39.599
<v Speaker 5>Stallings and then Capel and for a long stretch there

664
00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:43.640
<v Speaker 5>from about two thousand and fifteen, I guess to today,

665
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:47.319
<v Speaker 5>they've not really ever been a threat. And this year

666
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:49.599
<v Speaker 5>I happen to believe. And maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this

667
00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:51.400
<v Speaker 5>is the Homer in me, which I don't feel like

668
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:54.200
<v Speaker 5>I'm a Homer at all for the ACC, but I

669
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:56.519
<v Speaker 5>actually think they're better than you know.

670
00:29:56.799 --> 00:29:59.000
<v Speaker 4>They're good regardless of the ACC being.

671
00:29:58.839 --> 00:30:02.279
<v Speaker 5>Down in my opinion, but they're a team right now

672
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:04.519
<v Speaker 5>with a let's see because this, in fact, they may

673
00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:08.160
<v Speaker 5>be a good example as to what we should expect

674
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:10.640
<v Speaker 5>on selection Sunday as far as the committee and what

675
00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:13.160
<v Speaker 5>kind of value they're going to give the ACC because

676
00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:16.680
<v Speaker 5>Pittsburgh right now, I mean, let's see where they stand

677
00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:21.640
<v Speaker 5>in the Pittsburgh currently and the kin Palm is at

678
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:25.400
<v Speaker 5>twenty seven. They're twelve and three. Their losses are to

679
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:28.279
<v Speaker 5>all tournament teams, all good teams, in fact, all top

680
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:32.079
<v Speaker 5>twenty teams. They have losses to Wisconsin, close loss. They

681
00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:34.599
<v Speaker 5>got beat bad by Mississippi State, but they're really good

682
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:36.000
<v Speaker 5>and that was on the road. And then they lost

683
00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:38.000
<v Speaker 5>to Duke of course recently and that was a blowout.

684
00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:40.920
<v Speaker 5>So you know, none of their losses are terrible. They

685
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:43.480
<v Speaker 5>do have a road win at Ohio State, which has

686
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:46.519
<v Speaker 5>some value. They beat LSU, which is a good, a

687
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:51.440
<v Speaker 5>solid SEC team. You know, they beat West Virginia and

688
00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:53.640
<v Speaker 5>that's looking like a better win now because West Virginia

689
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:56.720
<v Speaker 5>has played really well and went into Kansas in one.

690
00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:59.920
<v Speaker 5>So I feel like in any other year, if you

691
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.759
<v Speaker 5>look at this team and you consider the conference they're in,

692
00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:07.359
<v Speaker 5>you would think that this team would be in the

693
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:10.119
<v Speaker 5>tournament easily, like maybe even being like a four or

694
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:12.359
<v Speaker 5>five seed, Like, I don't think that's crazy, but now,

695
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:14.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, you look at different bracketology out there. I

696
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:17.039
<v Speaker 5>think the best I've seen Pitt is like a seven.

697
00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:21.359
<v Speaker 5>So and again, the people putting the bracketology together, they're

698
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:23.359
<v Speaker 5>not you know, these aren't people that are actually going

699
00:31:23.400 --> 00:31:26.240
<v Speaker 5>to have any say so. But you know, it's all

700
00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:30.200
<v Speaker 5>we can reference at this point, so you know, it

701
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:32.240
<v Speaker 5>doesn't matter to me though, And what I mean by

702
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:34.519
<v Speaker 5>that is like, I don't care if the ACC not

703
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:36.880
<v Speaker 5>getting not being great this year. Clearly Louislle is going

704
00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:38.839
<v Speaker 5>to be able to benefit benefit from it. And I'm

705
00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:41.400
<v Speaker 5>I get the noise out there, like if Louisville ends

706
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:43.400
<v Speaker 5>up having a really good record in league play, which

707
00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:44.920
<v Speaker 5>I think they will, to be honest with you, from

708
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:46.279
<v Speaker 5>what I've seen lately, I think they will have a

709
00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:49.200
<v Speaker 5>really good record in league play. And with that, I

710
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:54.279
<v Speaker 5>kind of feel like, you know, we'll be thinking to ourselves, hey,

711
00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:55.440
<v Speaker 5>why aren't we getting more love?

712
00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:56.680
<v Speaker 4>Why isn't our seed better?

713
00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:58.119
<v Speaker 5>And then we're going to have to realize, oh, yeah,

714
00:31:58.160 --> 00:32:01.680
<v Speaker 5>it's because you know, maybe our losses are all respectable,

715
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:04.799
<v Speaker 5>but a great record in the ACC doesn't mean this

716
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:06.839
<v Speaker 5>year what it meant in previous years, and look, you

717
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:09.519
<v Speaker 5>can't control that. And because it's the first year, and

718
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:11.279
<v Speaker 5>I've just kind of been hoping that this team could

719
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:14.559
<v Speaker 5>at least just make the tournament, especially after the injuries happened,

720
00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:16.799
<v Speaker 5>it seemed like maybe they wasn't likely, and now it

721
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:19.079
<v Speaker 5>looks like they're in great shape. So you know, I'm

722
00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:21.400
<v Speaker 5>just going to enjoy the ride, and it's been it's

723
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:23.160
<v Speaker 5>been awesome so far. All right, quick break, we'll come

724
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:25.039
<v Speaker 5>back on the other side. What I want to get

725
00:32:25.079 --> 00:32:27.119
<v Speaker 5>to before we get out of here again. We're out

726
00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:30.039
<v Speaker 5>at four forty five today, so stick around and cherish

727
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:32.160
<v Speaker 5>this next hour. It's all you're getting until tomorrow. So

728
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:35.240
<v Speaker 5>just you know, don't don't, don't take it for granted.

729
00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:37.079
<v Speaker 6>And then tomorrow that's all you're getting until you get

730
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:38.440
<v Speaker 6>a couple of inches on Sunday.

731
00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:40.640
<v Speaker 4>That's right today, that's right later on that day.

732
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:44.880
<v Speaker 5>So Kentucky fans, I saw it last night on social media,

733
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:47.720
<v Speaker 5>and I know it came up on KSR earlier today.

734
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:52.799
<v Speaker 5>They were discussing sort of feeling sorry for Caliperry because

735
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:55.839
<v Speaker 5>it's you know it again. As I said earlier this week,

736
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:59.160
<v Speaker 5>This is not a who's winning the breakup. Kentucky won

737
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:03.559
<v Speaker 5>the breakup and they know that. Everybody knows it. And

738
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:07.079
<v Speaker 5>now I guess you just you know, I cannot understand

739
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:08.640
<v Speaker 5>how they would feel sad for him that he's going

740
00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:10.119
<v Speaker 5>to fall on his face there and he's doing that

741
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:12.480
<v Speaker 5>as we speak. But then again, I thought, you know,

742
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:14.519
<v Speaker 5>if you've, if it's been your coach for so long,

743
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:17.720
<v Speaker 5>it'd be weird to just within that amount of time

744
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:20.440
<v Speaker 5>just all of a sudden hate the guy. But anyways,

745
00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:21.799
<v Speaker 5>we'll discuss that and a lot more. We've got a

746
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:24.799
<v Speaker 5>college football playoff game tonight. We'll get in, we'll get

747
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:26.240
<v Speaker 5>into some action on that, So stick with us right

748
00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:27.480
<v Speaker 5>here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

749
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

750
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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

751
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<v Speaker 5>So it's tonight Notre Dame favored by one and a half.

752
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:53.440
<v Speaker 5>I have no clue what to expect in this matchup

753
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:55.960
<v Speaker 5>because Notre Dame, you know, what they did to Georgia

754
00:33:56.039 --> 00:33:59.440
<v Speaker 5>really impressive and therefore I feel like Notre Dame is

755
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:03.000
<v Speaker 5>capable or more than capable of winning the night. But

756
00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:05.640
<v Speaker 5>I don't have a clue if Penn State is the

757
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:09.840
<v Speaker 5>same James Franklin type of team that they've always been,

758
00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:12.199
<v Speaker 5>or maybe they are like really good. There's really no

759
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:15.000
<v Speaker 5>way to know. They haven't lost to anybody that is.

760
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:16.719
<v Speaker 5>I mean, the only loss they had this year was

761
00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:17.599
<v Speaker 5>to who Oregon?

762
00:34:18.119 --> 00:34:20.360
<v Speaker 4>Was it? Oregon? Ohio? Who do they lose to?

763
00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:22.039
<v Speaker 5>Because it was one of the teams that you know

764
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:23.400
<v Speaker 5>they were supposed to lose to, because that's that's what

765
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:26.599
<v Speaker 5>James Franklin does. They they and again there's something to

766
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:29.760
<v Speaker 5>be said about never losing a dud and never losing

767
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:32.480
<v Speaker 5>the teams that you are, you know, supposed to to beat.

768
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:34.079
<v Speaker 4>But when you do that.

769
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:36.960
<v Speaker 5>And you never beat the elite teams, it doesn't make

770
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:38.760
<v Speaker 5>you bad. In fact, it means you're good. But it's

771
00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:41.760
<v Speaker 5>just seemingly impossible to know how good you truly are.

772
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:44.599
<v Speaker 5>So this Penn State team, they're only lost this year.

773
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:46.840
<v Speaker 5>I guess they had two losses. I'm sorry. They lost

774
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:50.360
<v Speaker 5>to Ohio State by seven and they lost to Oregon

775
00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:54.280
<v Speaker 5>by eight in the championship game of the Big Ten.

776
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:57.760
<v Speaker 5>So you know they have of I mean, their resume

777
00:34:57.880 --> 00:34:59.440
<v Speaker 5>says they're good, but like good enough to win the

778
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:00.559
<v Speaker 5>national champampionship.

779
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:01.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean.

780
00:35:03.079 --> 00:35:06.199
<v Speaker 5>I have I have doubts they did win in overtime

781
00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:09.079
<v Speaker 5>against usc which would have been would have been an

782
00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:10.639
<v Speaker 5>outlier for their I mean, they would kept them out

783
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:12.960
<v Speaker 5>of the playoff. To be honest with you, so you know,

784
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:15.440
<v Speaker 5>I have no clue what to expect. I want to

785
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:17.320
<v Speaker 5>take Notre Dame money line, but I also want to

786
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:20.159
<v Speaker 5>do a same game parlay, just because you know that

787
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:22.760
<v Speaker 5>would give me a little more juice. Total is at

788
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:27.159
<v Speaker 5>forty five and a half, I lean under, but then again,

789
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:29.400
<v Speaker 5>that's not a whole lot of points. I mean, I

790
00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:31.360
<v Speaker 5>lean under. Let me let me check my sports line

791
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:37.639
<v Speaker 5>here sports line account, because they'll give me a well

792
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:39.239
<v Speaker 5>is it gonna let me sign in? Yeah, they'll give

793
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:45.199
<v Speaker 5>me the projected score from their simulations, which isn't always accurate,

794
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:48.559
<v Speaker 5>but it's at least something to reference. So yeah, currently,

795
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:51.960
<v Speaker 5>let's see twenty five to twenty three. That would make

796
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:55.119
<v Speaker 5>it forty eight, so that would be the over, right, yeah, Oh,

797
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:57.079
<v Speaker 5>let mean double chick, what was the line? Forty five

798
00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:00.039
<v Speaker 5>and a half, Yeah, it'd be the over. So and

799
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:01.719
<v Speaker 5>then again, seeing twenty five to twenty three, I feel

800
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:03.039
<v Speaker 5>like that's kind of a low scoring game, and yet

801
00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:04.960
<v Speaker 5>that would would in fact be over forty four.

802
00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:07.719
<v Speaker 4>So I hate, I hate totals.

803
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:10.280
<v Speaker 5>That are in that range because oh yeah, I mean,

804
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:14.360
<v Speaker 5>it's it's there's a reason that they said it that way,

805
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:16.320
<v Speaker 5>because they know it. That's the perfect spot for it.

806
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:19.679
<v Speaker 5>But you know, I think, let's see here, I'm looking

807
00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:21.599
<v Speaker 5>at some of these. Yeah, under forty five and a

808
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:24.880
<v Speaker 5>half is getting more. Yeah, when it comes to the

809
00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:28.960
<v Speaker 5>when it comes to the money currently on the total

810
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:32.480
<v Speaker 5>here the over under fifty three percent, I'm sorry, fifty

811
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:34.039
<v Speaker 5>seven percent of the money.

812
00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:38.480
<v Speaker 4>Is on, Uh, it is on the over.

813
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:43.960
<v Speaker 5>However, sixty two percent of the actual bets, meaning the

814
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:47.320
<v Speaker 5>wagers take out the take up, take out the amount

815
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:49.559
<v Speaker 5>of money they're betting, but just the actual wagers picking

816
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:52.039
<v Speaker 5>this thing to go over, it's up to sixty two percent.

817
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.280
<v Speaker 5>So I don't know if I want to.

818
00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:56.199
<v Speaker 4>Ride with everybody else, or at least the ride with

819
00:36:56.239 --> 00:36:58.000
<v Speaker 4>the majority, or so.

820
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:00.920
<v Speaker 6>We're thinking of like a twenty twenty, a twenty one

821
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:05.400
<v Speaker 6>to twenty game. Basically you said it was forty You

822
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:06.719
<v Speaker 6>said it was forty one, right, or.

823
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:07.480
<v Speaker 3>Was forty five?

824
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:10.360
<v Speaker 4>It's a forty four and a half was what it

825
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:10.920
<v Speaker 4>is right now?

826
00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:12.639
<v Speaker 3>Actually twenty one to twenty three.

827
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:13.519
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, I'm.

828
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:17.840
<v Speaker 5>Sorry, forty it's forty five and a half, and it

829
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:21.760
<v Speaker 5>is forty five and a half, and then the projected

830
00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:24.559
<v Speaker 5>total was forty eight. So if the formula was right,

831
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:27.320
<v Speaker 5>then they would go over and look Georgia or not no, sorry,

832
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:29.760
<v Speaker 5>Notre Dame. Against Georgia they scored twenty three. But they

833
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:32.039
<v Speaker 5>also I think they got a pick six in that.

834
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:34.119
<v Speaker 5>I mean, they're not going to try to Neither team

835
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:36.920
<v Speaker 5>is really built on tempo or scoring a lot of points.

836
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:40.360
<v Speaker 5>They put up twenty seven against Indiana. Against USC they

837
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:43.840
<v Speaker 5>scored forty nine, but again USC not necessarily known for defense.

838
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:46.920
<v Speaker 5>This past year, Penn State, you know, they put up

839
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:49.760
<v Speaker 5>thirty one against Boise, they put up thirty eight against SMU,

840
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:52.360
<v Speaker 5>But I think they had twenty one points against SMU

841
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:55.920
<v Speaker 5>that came from defense, not exaggerating. I think that's exactly

842
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:57.599
<v Speaker 5>what it was. I think twenty one of their of

843
00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:02.920
<v Speaker 5>their thirty eight were pick sick. They scored thirty seven

844
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:06.039
<v Speaker 5>against Oregon, forty four against Maryland. So you know, this

845
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:09.599
<v Speaker 5>this Penn State team, they score more than I than

846
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:11.360
<v Speaker 5>I give them credit for. But again I think some

847
00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:14.440
<v Speaker 5>of those some of that stuff. But again, regardless, if

848
00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:17.159
<v Speaker 5>you're getting points from your defense, that's still getting points.

849
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:19.800
<v Speaker 5>And you know, I would imagine just from what I've seen,

850
00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:22.280
<v Speaker 5>they probably up there when it comes to being able

851
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:25.880
<v Speaker 5>to create points from off turnovers in college football this year.

852
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:26.800
<v Speaker 3>So Notre Dame.

853
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:30.960
<v Speaker 6>Also Notre Dame twenty three against Georgia, twenty seven against Indiana,

854
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:35.039
<v Speaker 6>thirty five against USC, forty nine against Army, and thirty

855
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:36.199
<v Speaker 6>five against Virginia.

856
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:39.719
<v Speaker 5>I just feel like with Notre Dame, it's it's I

857
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:43.599
<v Speaker 5>think the reason they were putting up you know, thirty

858
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:46.599
<v Speaker 5>five plus, it's because in three straight weeks they played

859
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:49.079
<v Speaker 5>USC Army in Virginia. I think once they got to

860
00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:51.400
<v Speaker 5>Indiana a better defense, they didn't score quite as much.

861
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:55.000
<v Speaker 5>And then the way Signetti called that game, I mean,

862
00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:56.840
<v Speaker 5>is it lame to go under?

863
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:00.800
<v Speaker 4>No, I don't mind watching.

864
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:04.159
<v Speaker 5>It's to me when it comes to entertainment with wagering,

865
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:05.960
<v Speaker 5>I mean, yeah, if it's a great game and it's

866
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.559
<v Speaker 5>exciting and it's a thriller, that's awesome. But like I'm

867
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:11.119
<v Speaker 5>still excited if a game's boring, if it means I'm

868
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:13.480
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to potentially win. A lot of people are

869
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:15.159
<v Speaker 5>like there's no way. That's no way to live betting

870
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:17.840
<v Speaker 5>the under, rooting for terrible play where nobody scores, and

871
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:19.800
<v Speaker 5>I get all that, but if it's the play and

872
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:22.360
<v Speaker 5>it's a win, I'll I'll take that better than an

873
00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:24.760
<v Speaker 5>exciting game that you know, lost me money.

874
00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:28.320
<v Speaker 6>So far, in their last five games, when both teams

875
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:30.920
<v Speaker 6>have been in sort of close ones, they've been up

876
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:33.199
<v Speaker 6>around the twenty to twenty five mark, like, of course,

877
00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:37.159
<v Speaker 6>against Georgia Notre Dame twenty three points, and then against

878
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:40.800
<v Speaker 6>against Minnesota a few weeks about a few weeks ago,

879
00:39:41.119 --> 00:39:43.599
<v Speaker 6>Penn State only one by one point, twenty six to

880
00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:48.239
<v Speaker 6>twenty five, and when they lost to Oregon thirty seven

881
00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:50.679
<v Speaker 6>to forty five. So I mean, they're capable of putting

882
00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:52.679
<v Speaker 6>up points. I feel like they're tricking us.

883
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:54.719
<v Speaker 3>Nick. I kind of like the over in this, but

884
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:56.960
<v Speaker 3>I shouldn't have polluted the air.

885
00:39:57.039 --> 00:39:57.599
<v Speaker 4>No, you're good.

886
00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:03.199
<v Speaker 5>So the expert here at sports Line, there's three of

887
00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:06.199
<v Speaker 5>the experts that have decided to take the under, and

888
00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:11.280
<v Speaker 5>here's their reasoning. This is from Eric Casselis. He says

889
00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:13.079
<v Speaker 5>that Notre Dame has been lucky to score as much

890
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:14.960
<v Speaker 5>as they have. Penn State will run into an Irish D.

891
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:18.800
<v Speaker 5>I worry about OT, but otherwise my marvels what an

892
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:22.599
<v Speaker 5>Irish d. He worries about OT, but otherwise his model

893
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:25.239
<v Speaker 5>says that the under is the play. This is from

894
00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:28.360
<v Speaker 5>Eric Cohen, who says, unless the fighting Irish turned the

895
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:30.519
<v Speaker 5>ball over deep in their own territory, I'm not sure

896
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:33.079
<v Speaker 5>I see the Nidney Lions sustaining more than two long

897
00:40:33.159 --> 00:40:35.480
<v Speaker 5>drives if that. Notre Dame has the fifth best pass

898
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:38.559
<v Speaker 5>defense in the country and should keep Drewilar's success to

899
00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:40.719
<v Speaker 5>a minimum. Not only do I like Marcus Freeman's team

900
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:43.320
<v Speaker 5>to win, I expect this one is going to be ugly.

901
00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:46.360
<v Speaker 5>Take the under Notre Dame nineteen Penn State fourteen.

902
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:49.760
<v Speaker 6>Ooh, that's that's a convincing write up.

903
00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:56.280
<v Speaker 5>I tend to agree. Says here. Also, there's one more

904
00:40:56.719 --> 00:40:59.559
<v Speaker 5>that did that picked the under. At least I thought

905
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:00.199
<v Speaker 5>that I want to to.

906
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:02.000
<v Speaker 4>Here we go. Yeah this one. Yeah.

907
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:04.000
<v Speaker 5>This is from Emery Hunt. He says, with both teams

908
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:06.519
<v Speaker 5>being eerily similar along both sides of the line of scrimmage,

909
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:09.199
<v Speaker 5>it makes the chess match between the two teams even

910
00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:11.440
<v Speaker 5>more important. These teams will play a strong point of

911
00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:14.159
<v Speaker 5>attack game, and we may be looking at two touchdowns

912
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:16.519
<v Speaker 5>and a series of field goals. Yeah, I'm I've been

913
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:18.559
<v Speaker 5>convinced to take the under. Yah, that's what I'm gonna do.

914
00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:20.639
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna go Notre Dame money line and take the under.

915
00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:23.519
<v Speaker 5>And that's I need a win. After last night. I

916
00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:25.639
<v Speaker 5>was telling Austin during the break about my bad beat

917
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:27.960
<v Speaker 5>and it really, I mean bad beats I think are

918
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:31.239
<v Speaker 5>are viewed differently. This this this was just getting it wrong,

919
00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:33.960
<v Speaker 5>like it's it's so close and it's just coming up short,

920
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:36.480
<v Speaker 5>which sucks. But I think bad beats are like fluky

921
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:38.800
<v Speaker 5>things happening that you would never expect. That that that

922
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:41.639
<v Speaker 5>you know ultimately bend you over and rail you, which

923
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:44.920
<v Speaker 5>we've all been there, and it's it's not fun. Yeah,

924
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:47.400
<v Speaker 5>not not fun at all. So last night, I've really

925
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:51.440
<v Speaker 5>enjoyed the thrill of watching lines change live during games.

926
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:53.119
<v Speaker 5>I used to just never even want to look at

927
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:56.280
<v Speaker 5>I would be I don't for no reason in particular,

928
00:41:56.360 --> 00:41:57.599
<v Speaker 5>I was just like, yeah, I don't want to do

929
00:41:57.639 --> 00:41:59.519
<v Speaker 5>live bets. It was just a different experience for me.

930
00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:01.719
<v Speaker 5>It was too straight. Well now I look at them

931
00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:03.559
<v Speaker 5>changing and I can see a team, you know, gets

932
00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:06.119
<v Speaker 5>like last night, I had a chance to really put

933
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:08.519
<v Speaker 5>away a three leg parlay and I came up so short.

934
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:11.480
<v Speaker 5>It just it still burns me alive thinking about it.

935
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:15.519
<v Speaker 5>So last night Ole Miss and Arkansas were playing, and

936
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:18.199
<v Speaker 5>Arkansas got off to a decent start in Faydeville.

937
00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:18.639
<v Speaker 4>They were at home.

938
00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:21.199
<v Speaker 5>They were up like eight, between six and eight for

939
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:22.880
<v Speaker 5>like the first seven eight minutes of the game. Well

940
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:25.039
<v Speaker 5>then Old Miss storm back and they end up winning

941
00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:27.199
<v Speaker 5>that thing by double digits, and that's kind of what

942
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:28.000
<v Speaker 5>I expected to happen.

943
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:29.480
<v Speaker 4>So I got Old Miss.

944
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:32.039
<v Speaker 5>I mean they were it was like Old Miss plus

945
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:33.639
<v Speaker 5>five and a half, and I took Old Miss. Money

946
00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:36.360
<v Speaker 5>line came through. Same thing with Florida State in Miami.

947
00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:39.360
<v Speaker 5>Florida State was trailing Miami a little bit early, but

948
00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:43.079
<v Speaker 5>Florida State's better than Miami. Miami's been getting killed all year.

949
00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:44.960
<v Speaker 5>Like I knew eventually Florida State would take over, and

950
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:46.719
<v Speaker 5>they did. They won by double digits. So same thing.

951
00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:50.039
<v Speaker 5>They're like five six and a half point underdogs, and

952
00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:52.519
<v Speaker 5>I take the money line. So those were you know,

953
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:54.360
<v Speaker 5>those have a lot of value. There are a lot

954
00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:57.880
<v Speaker 5>of juice. And then USC and Indiana. I'm watching this game.

955
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:00.320
<v Speaker 5>It was a slower start than they initially expect did

956
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:04.119
<v Speaker 5>so the total was set at one fifty one and

957
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:07.239
<v Speaker 5>a half with like ten minutes left in the first half.

958
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:09.119
<v Speaker 5>I said, okay, I think this is going to go over.

959
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:12.480
<v Speaker 5>The Hoosiers are scoring and that that's the pace right now.

960
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:15.239
<v Speaker 5>Let's let's hit the over and sure enough, you know

961
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:18.199
<v Speaker 5>the hook will get you. The game ended up with

962
00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:20.199
<v Speaker 5>a total of one to fifty one, and I bet

963
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:21.800
<v Speaker 5>one fifty one and a half and that got me,

964
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:25.079
<v Speaker 5>so you know, it's part of the game. But needless

965
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:27.159
<v Speaker 5>to say, I'm in need for a win tonight, so

966
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:27.679
<v Speaker 5>let's hope.

967
00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:28.480
<v Speaker 4>That one comes through.

968
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:30.880
<v Speaker 5>I love it, believe it, in the power of positivity,

969
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:34.199
<v Speaker 5>speaking it into existence. Good stuff there, all right, quick break,

970
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:36.159
<v Speaker 5>we'll come back and we'll get you forty five minutes

971
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:38.800
<v Speaker 5>and get out of here. It's coffee and company fuel

972
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:59.800
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