Speaker 1: In a world where fairways meet the airwaves, where Birdie's
Speaker 1: and banker collide. Welcome to the show that takes you
Speaker 1: beyond the clubhouse and onto the green. This is Balls
Speaker 1: and Tees, your passport to the golfing universe, where every
Speaker 1: swing tells the story and every part has its punchline.
Speaker 1: Get ready to step onto the large screens and dive
Speaker 1: into the world of diveds, drives and delightful better the Magician.
Speaker 2: All right, ladies and gentlemen, it is the one and
Speaker 2: only Tony Tone, the Magician, the boy with a lot
Speaker 2: of players, and yes, I am a classic man. So,
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, you are tuned into the one and
Speaker 2: only Balls and Tees.
Speaker 3: And guess what if.
Speaker 2: It's the first time you hear my voice on the airwaves,
Speaker 2: then you definitely have been listening to the wrong, wrong frequency.
Speaker 2: Because it is the place to be, especially when we
Speaker 2: talk about social golf, we talk about anything that has
Speaker 2: to do with golf. We are not just local, we
Speaker 2: are international. We touch places that no other podcast around
Speaker 2: South Africa touches. We go to Russia, we go to
Speaker 2: your career, go to Indonesia, Malaysia, wherever it is named
Speaker 2: and I just want to say to everybody out there,
Speaker 2: thank you for the continuous support that you have been
Speaker 2: showing us from the get go. This is our second
Speaker 2: season and this is episode five. As you know from
Speaker 2: the get go, from the first season of this from
Speaker 2: the first episode of this season.
Speaker 3: It has just been blazing, blazing hot.
Speaker 2: Now today, listen, ladies and gentlemen, I always say get
Speaker 2: yourself an ice cold glass of water. Today I need
Speaker 2: you to get a twenty liter bucket of water. Not
Speaker 2: just because the show is hot, no, no, no no, it's
Speaker 2: because here in Howting there's been a lot of hailstorms
Speaker 2: and I want you to actually melt that ice that water.
Speaker 3: So what we're going to do.
Speaker 2: Right now, we just want to take a two minute
Speaker 2: break and then when I come back, I we'll be
Speaker 2: introducing our guests.
Speaker 3: In that two minutes.
Speaker 2: Make sure that you get something to refresh, because it's
Speaker 2: about to get really hot. So let's go for that
Speaker 2: two minute break, and then let's get back to business
Speaker 2: afterwards and introduce our guest who's eagerly waiting to get
Speaker 2: into this conversation with me.
Speaker 1: In a world where fairways meet the airwaves, where Birdie's
Speaker 1: and Banker collide. Welcome to the show that takes you
Speaker 1: beyond the clubhouse and onto the green, the balls, and
Speaker 1: t's your passport to the golfing universe, where every swing
Speaker 1: tells the story and every part has its punchline. Get
Speaker 1: ready to step onto the large screens and dive into
Speaker 1: the world of diveds, drives and delightful better the magician.
Speaker 2: All right, ladies and gentlemen, as I promised you before
Speaker 2: our break, we are going to have a hot, hot,
Speaker 2: hot episode. So for those who just joined in now,
Speaker 2: it is the one and only Tony Town the Magician
Speaker 2: on the frequency, and I hope you've got that painting
Speaker 2: little bucket of cool water so that you cool yourself
Speaker 2: and then you melt the hailstones from these stones that
Speaker 2: we're facing nowadays. So, ladies and gentlemen, without wasting any
Speaker 2: more time, I would really, really really like you to
Speaker 2: help me introduce our guests for the evening. Who is
Speaker 2: none but the only Master machinee Nick Matfaka, And then
Speaker 2: we will be having a beautiful, beautiful conversation.
Speaker 3: Mister Mataka, welcome to the show.
Speaker 4: Said thank you very much, Tony, thank you for having.
Speaker 3: Me awesome stuff, not the mataca.
Speaker 2: You know, I always try to hype people up and
Speaker 2: introduce my guests in a verdo of vicious way, but
Speaker 2: I don't think that I've really really done much justice.
Speaker 2: Perhaps if you can just take the marc and then
Speaker 2: reintroduce yourself on a pharannel to tell people who exactly
Speaker 2: Nick Matake is, what's happening in your space and how
Speaker 2: did you find your love for golf?
Speaker 4: Yes, thank you for the opportunity. And my name is
Speaker 4: Machelo Surnameteke. I know a lot of people still know
Speaker 4: me as Nick, and every time somebody say Nick, I
Speaker 4: go like, well, this must be my former classmate or all. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that name is actually being used for a very very
Speaker 4: good papos because it was just for my work and
Speaker 4: my school. So those things I'm long past and now
Speaker 4: I'm back to Machilo Matake. And yes, nos, look, I
Speaker 4: am a financial advice by profession, and obviously I work
Speaker 4: as an executive at MA Take Business Investment started at
Speaker 4: a corporate level, Discovery in particular, and established MBI at
Speaker 4: some point. Our field of expertise it's more about giving
Speaker 4: advice on certain categories of insurance. So besides the lifestyle
Speaker 4: of golf, I mean artlet. I ran about four in
Speaker 4: Comrades marathon in my life, finished all of them, and
Speaker 4: I've taken part in quite a lot of marathons around
Speaker 4: how they in an hout of again the country, and
Speaker 4: I happened to also done thirteen two Oceans marathons. So
Speaker 4: there's there's about I think three one two green numbers
Speaker 4: and one blue number. Well it's two blue number, one
Speaker 4: green number. So in essence, I've done four in Comrades
Speaker 4: tad in two Oceans, and I've done just ten oly
Speaker 4: Down marathons. Those are your ultramarathons. And I'm a very
Speaker 4: passionate golfer. I play golf at least three times per
Speaker 4: week and idle in my mind through the sports because
Speaker 4: that's where the social life is. If you ask me
Speaker 4: what actually made me to end up being so active
Speaker 4: in either golf or or athletics, was precisely about trying
Speaker 4: to sort of stay healthy. That's number one and obvious.
Speaker 4: But again, I don't think I had passion for running,
Speaker 4: to be quite honest, I never liked it. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: being honest, Tony. I hated running so much that my
Speaker 4: first marathon was only to prove to my ps that
Speaker 4: I can also do this, and because they keep on
Speaker 4: coming to me until such a time that I decided
Speaker 4: I'm going to try this and I'm going to show
Speaker 4: you because I liked just burning my upper body to
Speaker 4: look nice then and also had a passion to sort
Speaker 4: of do some short films in acting and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: which didn't last.
Speaker 3: Long longer lines.
Speaker 4: I know. When they rooted me for running, I said,
Speaker 4: but when am I going to get out of this
Speaker 4: just running? I was so so creative about it. But
Speaker 4: thanks to my friends, thanks to everyone that recruited me,
Speaker 4: including the former president of the Lions, a very good
Speaker 4: friend of mine. Obviously I won't mention his name, but
Speaker 4: he's well known. He came to me and say, my friend,
Speaker 4: we need to do this, and the day I said yes,
Speaker 4: and then I received almost forty emails from him telling
Speaker 4: me what I need to do, what type of running
Speaker 4: issues and stuff like that, and I was already hurtful,
Speaker 4: but that hurtful actually led me to go and run
Speaker 4: and just prove to him that I can do this thing.
Speaker 4: So ever since the first medal, in short, I never
Speaker 4: looked back, you know, I never look back. So I
Speaker 4: create this passion to evolve. Golf was something very intimidating
Speaker 4: to me, to be honest, So because I found myself
Speaker 4: in the business where I engage professionals and clients and
Speaker 4: like minded individuals. On the course, a good friend of
Speaker 4: mine who happened to be a business partner, has invited
Speaker 4: me and he did not prepare. So here I am.
Speaker 4: He booked a fourball. I'm included. We're playing past view,
Speaker 4: you know, he said, we're going to play a view,
Speaker 4: you know. Funny enough, I remember vivically that I was
Speaker 4: wearing the formal shoes and I just come out of
Speaker 4: work and we have the afternoon tea of I have
Speaker 4: to hire everything from shoes to clve and as if
Speaker 4: it's not enough, every single shot was surprisingly not going high,
Speaker 4: let alone slicing and all that. I was actually asking myself,
Speaker 4: is this a thread? And I hated golf so much
Speaker 4: from that day because the whole day I embarrassed myself.
Speaker 4: I could not hit the ball. A friend of mine
Speaker 4: actually never told me. That was the first time. I
Speaker 4: think it's like nearly fifteen years ago. Then I told
Speaker 4: myself that if anything, nothing in this whole world end wrong.
Speaker 4: Everything that's wrong. If the beginning was not well prepared,
Speaker 4: the end will obviously reciprocate and it will reflect and
Speaker 4: expose the exact beginning that you had actually impact on.
Speaker 4: And I decided, you know what, when I have to start,
Speaker 4: get the coach, go to the range. And I think
Speaker 4: this is the attitude with me. I told myself, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go back and prove to him that I can
Speaker 4: also play golf as soon as I got my lesson.
Speaker 4: So it took me about six months of lessons, hitting
Speaker 4: your shots, gentlemen, being very patient with me until such
Speaker 4: a time I gained confidence, and before you know it,
Speaker 4: I was the one where clearly annoyed them by inviting
Speaker 4: them about.
Speaker 2: You developed a patient after being thrown into the deep end.
Speaker 4: Yeah, remember I read somewhere away they say in any
Speaker 4: man's success, there's always a fear that's standing between him
Speaker 4: and just going to which their objectives. And I think
Speaker 4: it was a problem with me because all these things
Speaker 4: were intimidating me so much that if I can't do
Speaker 4: it right, then I don't need to do it, you know.
Speaker 4: But if somebody actually thrown me into the deep end
Speaker 4: on that particular time and then I know what to rectify.
Speaker 4: I still thank them so much because ultimately I developed
Speaker 4: a passion. M hmm.
Speaker 2: Now now masthematically, let let's talk about the two different spaces. Well,
Speaker 2: you mentioned three spaces, of which one being marathon, which
Speaker 2: is fast paced, I believe, and it requires a lot
Speaker 2: of insurance. And then the acting, which I believe it's
Speaker 2: more than just the physical appearance. But obviously your state
Speaker 2: of mind is to be clear because you have to
Speaker 2: remember the lines. And then now we're talking about gold.
Speaker 2: Now with these three different spaces which require different energy levels,
Speaker 2: how did you then adjust from one to the other
Speaker 2: every time you just stumbled upon these invites or these
Speaker 2: challenges that were brought to you by your friends.
Speaker 4: Ye, are a very good question because I guess it
Speaker 4: was a question of number one. I hate a vacuum time.
Speaker 4: That's that's the first. I always wanted to keep myself busy.
Speaker 4: If if it's not studying, it must be physical activities
Speaker 4: are awake. And that's how I've really tried to map
Speaker 4: out my day. And I wanted to use my time
Speaker 4: for things that I feel can ultimately be written into
Speaker 4: the history books about myself. So I know zeuch about acting.
Speaker 4: I don't want to lie to you. A friend of
Speaker 4: mine who happened to be at actually in me because
Speaker 4: when I was twenty six twenty seven, I was one
Speaker 4: of those people that I decided to buy such a
Speaker 4: big car because you want to be filled presence wise,
Speaker 4: and I'm in business, so what you know. So for
Speaker 4: that particular reason, he said to me, we need you
Speaker 4: your physique. And again, at least you have something that
Speaker 4: we can use in that film, because the short films
Speaker 4: went necessarily your big short films. It was just one
Speaker 4: day star at this exposure in terms of the talent
Speaker 4: from the young actors, et cetera. So it happened to
Speaker 4: be in the mix. And then I said, no, it's
Speaker 4: fine as long as I'm still waking and I can
Speaker 4: be able to and I will be able to do
Speaker 4: it for the sake of my maybe passion. But eventually
Speaker 4: I decided, no, man, this is not for me. So
Speaker 4: it was a waste of time. As for the learning,
Speaker 4: I find time my days that four am. I tell
Speaker 4: my PIDs that if anything, I'm rain or shine, if
Speaker 4: I have the program to prepare myself. I mean, my
Speaker 4: wife knows this very well. That that pass. For I'm
Speaker 4: on the road of been happy, making sure that that
Speaker 4: two hours I clocked twenty one kilometers within maybe one
Speaker 4: forty five one hour forty five minutes back at home,
Speaker 4: preparing myself, taking kids to school, drop them off at seven,
Speaker 4: and I was even breaking on one of the words
Speaker 4: up group, telling friends that I'm the first one in
Speaker 4: the office and the last one to leave, but I
Speaker 4: still have the two that I spend so every morning
Speaker 4: it's very important, tourney for anything, it is so important.
Speaker 4: Then I have my whole day. Then I ask for
Speaker 4: for a just one day of the week to perhaps participate,
Speaker 4: involve at work. They know it's standards. Yeah, I will
Speaker 4: play golf at least two to three times per week
Speaker 4: m hm, because other days will be off the weekends.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, sure, that's that's quite interesting.
Speaker 2: Now I just want to find out, I mean, you're
Speaker 2: so involved in in sports as a whole, if I
Speaker 2: can put it that way, or in making sure that
Speaker 2: you're keeping a healthy lifestyle. Now, if anything that I
Speaker 2: want to find out for me is if you were
Speaker 2: to look at golf and the athletic aspect of your life,
Speaker 2: are there any lessons that actually put into each other
Speaker 2: space to say, Okay, maybe in athletic athletics, like I said,
Speaker 2: endurance stamina is one of the most important thing or
Speaker 2: any mental lessons or mental disciplines that you actually picked
Speaker 2: up from the marathons and incorporated them into your golf
Speaker 2: or vice versa.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Bunnie, I can say this in my mother tongue. Firstly,
Speaker 4: mm hmm, I tell my peers that if it so
Speaker 4: happened that God takes everything, and then I guess, I say,
Speaker 4: at least and if I have my health, I think
Speaker 4: I can still try and pick myself up. I can't
Speaker 4: imagine a day with out trying and invest in my health.
Speaker 4: Of course, at some point we're going to have commobilities,
Speaker 4: but now we have the opportunity to delay those mobilities.
Speaker 4: Two things that will keep it healthy is fitness and happiness.
Speaker 4: And through thickness you are then able to sort of
Speaker 4: like what you see the development of your body and
Speaker 4: the endurance that comes with it. The sleep, by sleeping enough,
Speaker 4: gives you so much peace and happiness that a lot
Speaker 4: of people don't realize that. And again, because you sleep
Speaker 4: on time, you wake up on time. The fact that
Speaker 4: you have time management aspect of it. It's easy for
Speaker 4: you to achieve those little goals because the first thing
Speaker 4: that is very, very very important in our life is time.
Speaker 4: If you fail to manage time, you are more like
Speaker 4: a person who failed to manage their own money. And
Speaker 4: that's precisely how I was taught. And again, getting into interviews,
Speaker 4: meetings and everything, whether you are five minutes late is
Speaker 4: a sign of disrespect. You don't do that. Tell people
Speaker 4: that make it so for that it helps me so
Speaker 4: much about how best can I manage my time? How
Speaker 4: best can I rather prepare myself. I may not have everything,
Speaker 4: but at least let me be proud of the health,
Speaker 4: the fitness, you know, and ultimately build my happiness through it.
Speaker 3: No, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: And the reason I was actually asking that, I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, on the god of course, at least there's
Speaker 2: options to say, am I taking a cart or am I.
Speaker 3: Taking a long walk? Now?
Speaker 2: From an athletic like yourself, I just want to get
Speaker 2: an idea which one would you prepare to do on
Speaker 2: the golf course, taking that long walk or just a
Speaker 2: cat for the day, to say, you know what I
Speaker 2: run in the morning, Now I need to take a rest.
Speaker 4: I hardly take a cant I don't. I do not
Speaker 4: take a cant. In actual fact, in some of the
Speaker 4: courses where I'm forced to take a cart, I hope
Speaker 4: on off the can't I sometimes walk, you know at
Speaker 4: my looking for me and I said, no, but I'm
Speaker 4: catching up. I still have a conversation with myself and
Speaker 4: I enjoy that so much. And besides, it actually contributes
Speaker 4: to my golf and it helps me perhaps to prepare
Speaker 4: for each shot as I walked, what's my ball? And
Speaker 4: I'm used to it. I don't know at what point
Speaker 4: will think I need to use a cart because using
Speaker 4: a kite deprives you a little count of fitness that
Speaker 4: you may have gained by just taking a walk, and
Speaker 4: I just don't like using the cart. Y.
Speaker 2: No, that definitely makes sense, and like you said, it
Speaker 2: helps you prepare for the next shot and you're able
Speaker 2: to have those small conversations with yourself.
Speaker 3: So, Master Matak, I just want to find.
Speaker 2: Out as the director and the founder of MBI, right
Speaker 2: which basically, like you said, you focus on corporate clients
Speaker 2: and SMEs. I just want to find out how important
Speaker 2: the golf course environment is to you. As the founder
Speaker 2: and director when it comes to building and naturing relationships
Speaker 2: with your clients.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Just not so long ago, I was telling my
Speaker 4: my mate that if anything, every golf course is the
Speaker 4: place where you find the like mind individuals. Mmm one
Speaker 4: or the other. They will discuss their field of expertise,
Speaker 4: be it they have influence in their companies or they
Speaker 4: are decision makers in their companies. It took me time
Speaker 4: to actually understand that concept. Yeah. And as I understood
Speaker 4: the concept, then I thought, then what are the target markets?
Speaker 4: Because not everyone on the golf course will somehow give
Speaker 4: you the signages that you're looking for. Yeah, so you
Speaker 4: need to work on those two things. One your target market,
Speaker 4: filter of expertise. I obviously the first thing that I
Speaker 4: always say as a standard rule. I tell my colleagues
Speaker 4: that the client is the main ingredient of our success.
Speaker 4: So we thought a client, any shops will close. It
Speaker 4: doesn't matter which type of shops. It can be a bank,
Speaker 4: it can be a lot of it can be an
Speaker 4: engineer company, it can be anything. For as long as
Speaker 4: there's no client, there's absolute no need for that operate
Speaker 4: because those are the ingredient of our success. In actual effect,
Speaker 4: they are the main ingreds. So when I look at
Speaker 4: why should we then set up an operational ability for
Speaker 4: these people to knock at our doors? Yeah, I thought
Speaker 4: to myself, and I hope I'm not going part your questions.
Speaker 4: As thought to myself that instead of waiting in my
Speaker 4: office for the client, I must go to the client.
Speaker 4: Where do I find my client. It's not at a
Speaker 4: soccer field, it's not at the stadia. They are there
Speaker 4: in the course, because eight out of ten times, these
Speaker 4: are your decision makers, this are your company owners. These
Speaker 4: are the like minded individuals that I can certainly classify
Speaker 4: them as a target market. And as if it's not enough,
Speaker 4: I will then make it much more comfortable by getting
Speaker 4: them in one room. Can it can be the club,
Speaker 4: restaurant or anything. Just so we sit and at times
Speaker 4: have a discussion and before you know it, business needs
Speaker 4: to be circulated amongst ourselves. And that's not monopoly, it's
Speaker 4: an ideological common objective.
Speaker 3: Mm hm.
Speaker 2: No, one hundred percent, master mateka. I think we can
Speaker 2: take our three minute break right now and then when
Speaker 2: we come back, I actually want us to delve more
Speaker 2: deeper into the social golf aspect and business as a
Speaker 2: whole to say, how do we then capitalize as golfers
Speaker 2: on the golf course or as entrepreneurs on the golf
Speaker 2: course to make sure that we do not miss those opportunities.
Speaker 2: And what can one look out for when having conversations
Speaker 2: with people on the golf course in order for you
Speaker 2: to past out sell yourself and secondly, to solve solutions,
Speaker 2: because I believe every single business objective is to solve
Speaker 2: solutions for its clients. So if we can go for
Speaker 2: the three minute break and then when we come back,
Speaker 2: we will delve more into this conversation and yeah, we
Speaker 2: can get your sights on it at some stuff. All right,
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, we're going for that three minute break,
Speaker 2: and then when we come back, please make sure that
Speaker 2: in the interim you refill those twenty litersbaccas of water.
Speaker 2: I am sure they are empty at the moment, because,
Speaker 2: like I said, we're going to have an insightful conversation.
Speaker 2: And you know, there's something that our guests actually pointed
Speaker 2: out today. I thought he was just into athletics and golf,
Speaker 2: and then he mentioned something about eighteen. So we learned
Speaker 2: as we converse with people. So it was a great
Speaker 2: one to find out. So let's go to that break
Speaker 2: and then when we come back will definitely find out
Speaker 2: a bit more about mister Mattek, his universe of golf,
Speaker 2: and his business as a whole.
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Speaker 1: In a world where fairways meet the airweeks where Murdie's
Speaker 1: and Banker collide, Welcome to the show. That takes you
Speaker 1: beyond the clubhouse and onto the green. This is Balls
Speaker 1: and ts your passport to the golfing universe where every
Speaker 1: swing tells the story and every part has its parts lay.
Speaker 1: Get ready, step onto the large screens and dive into
Speaker 1: the world of divents, drives and delightful better.
Speaker 2: The Magician All right, ladies and gentlemen, it is still
Speaker 2: the one and only Tony tone on Bows and Teas.
Speaker 2: And like I said, if it's the first time that
Speaker 2: you hear my voice, you've probably been listening to the
Speaker 2: wrong frequencies. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the hardest podcast
Speaker 2: when it comes to golf talk, and the Magician is
Speaker 2: here to make sure that I give you a little
Speaker 2: bit of a whisk from my side, to make sure
Speaker 2: that you understand what's happening around you when it comes
Speaker 2: to gold most particularly in normal communities, not professional golf,
Speaker 2: but under normal circumstances where people can actually see network
Speaker 2: create relationships.
Speaker 3: So this is Balls and Teas.
Speaker 2: Now, ladies and gentlemen, we are joined today by the
Speaker 2: director and found out of MBI, Mastermataka, and he is
Speaker 2: still waiting for us to make sure that he gives
Speaker 2: us more information about his space or his universe when
Speaker 2: it comes to golf and his business Mastermataka.
Speaker 3: Is still with us.
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm here, sir, Thank you.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Now, before we went onto the break, you mentioned very
Speaker 2: crucial points when it comes to business to say clients
Speaker 2: or customers are your main ingredient, and you find it
Speaker 2: very ungruty for yourself to just sit in the office
Speaker 2: and say that the clients will come, rather go out
Speaker 2: into the golf course and now put them into one
Speaker 2: room or have those conversations with them. But before we
Speaker 2: actually dig deeper into that, I just want to find
Speaker 2: out from your site in your own ways to say,
Speaker 2: when someone mentions the word social golf, what does it
Speaker 2: particularly mean to you, because it often under circumstances people
Speaker 2: would would would say, no, it's just an environment to relax, or.
Speaker 3: It's just for fun.
Speaker 2: So I just want to find out from your side,
Speaker 2: as someone who's in business, someone who is dedicated to
Speaker 2: what you do, whether it be playing golf, whether it
Speaker 2: be athletics, whether it be business. I just want to
Speaker 2: get the perspective from your sir.
Speaker 4: Yes, if you come across somebody calling themselves a social golfer,
Speaker 4: please remember this way. The biggest difference between professional and
Speaker 4: a mata is the direction of money. So professionals get
Speaker 4: paid to participate. Social golfer pays to participate. So that's
Speaker 4: what I'm trying to explain that in as much as
Speaker 4: I don't make a living out of it, m I'm
Speaker 4: passionate and still playing it as at the social level. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's precisely what it means.
Speaker 2: So the other is getting paid while the other is
Speaker 2: spending money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the other one is actually paying to participate,
Speaker 4: and they guys will obviously get paid to participate. They're
Speaker 4: actually getting everybode to participate. Then everything is covered probably,
Speaker 4: but they will still be getting paid.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I think that that is a very solid
Speaker 2: explanation and I will keep that one on the records
Speaker 2: because it definitely makes sense. Now with that being said,
Speaker 2: I mean, you mentioned that you try to play at
Speaker 2: least twice or three times in a week, and you
Speaker 2: being a director and a founder of MBI, right, and
Speaker 2: having to spend so much time with different individuals on
Speaker 2: the golf course, I mean around the golf roughly last
Speaker 2: about four and a half hours to about five I
Speaker 2: was depending on the pace of the course on that
Speaker 2: particular day. So yeah, many people would go on the
Speaker 2: golf course for that four to five hours and then
Speaker 2: conversations start coming up. I mean we I would presume
Speaker 2: that people would talk about literally everything in the world
Speaker 2: to say, Okay, this is who I am, this is
Speaker 2: what I do, this is my family structure. Well, depending
Speaker 2: on how the conversation goes. Now, I want to understand
Speaker 2: on your side, as someone who's business minded and are
Speaker 2: on the golf course to actually make business, how do
Speaker 2: you then drive conversations or take whatever information or conversation
Speaker 2: to your advantage so that it aligns with your business objectives.
Speaker 4: Yeah, trust me, I've mentioned acting, So acting, I'm going
Speaker 4: to give an acting acting. You could be on set
Speaker 4: for nearly the whole day, but we appear on the
Speaker 4: screen for about to five seconds. Yeah, what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: So eight out of ten times you are not going
Speaker 4: to clinch the deal at golf on the day you
Speaker 4: meet a stranger. Yeah, it's an introduction and somebody needs
Speaker 4: to actually know. They must have a human touch on
Speaker 4: who am I dealing with because golf and it's always
Speaker 4: designed in such a way that it reveals your character
Speaker 4: trust me, I can be very impatient with people who
Speaker 4: have no artiqude when it comes to golf, and if
Speaker 4: you touch me based on that, it's okay. But at
Speaker 4: the same time, I find a lot of guys that
Speaker 4: actually resonate and understand that there's an artiqude and through
Speaker 4: that we start to have some common views about how
Speaker 4: can we sort of play and conversation just flow, you know.
Speaker 4: So it's not always that going to meet a golfer
Speaker 4: that has got something to give in actual effect. And
Speaker 4: I hate break this down. There's a lot of golf groups,
Speaker 4: and in golf groups there's ten credible men and sixty clowns,
Speaker 4: if I may put it away, because there's people who
Speaker 4: does nasty things and obviously go with the opportunistic mentality
Speaker 4: on the golf. So I'm just saying and using this
Speaker 4: word for everyone to be careful of exactly who they
Speaker 4: engaging when it comes to a golf because it can
Speaker 4: be over exaggerated. So always that I will have sort
Speaker 4: of somebody that can exchange business with my company, it
Speaker 4: is just six out of ten times, which is sixty
Speaker 4: percent of the time, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that's very interesting, and now I think that's
Speaker 2: where a lot of people have actually been misinterpreting the
Speaker 2: whole concept of conducting business on the golf course, because,
Speaker 2: like you said, there's opportunists out therehood mainly just go
Speaker 2: out there to say, you know what, if this person
Speaker 2: doesn't really talk the language that I will talk, then
Speaker 2: there's no need for us to continue with the conversation. Now,
Speaker 2: I think what you just said builds up to my
Speaker 2: next question, because I was going to say to you
Speaker 2: what I've noticed over the couple of years, the past
Speaker 2: couple of years, is that a lot of young professionals
Speaker 2: are then have started moving away from your traditional networking
Speaker 2: sessions and a lot of you'd find a lot of
Speaker 2: them getting more involved into golf because they have this
Speaker 2: ideology to say that is where business happens.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: One thing that uh, which is also part of what
Speaker 2: you said, you mentioned etiquette. An etiquaide would go with
Speaker 2: the setting itself, the environment that one is in.
Speaker 3: Our presume.
Speaker 2: I just want to find out if we if we're
Speaker 2: talking about golf court setting or a golf a social
Speaker 2: golf event setting that would be suitable for business conduct.
Speaker 3: Maybe let's say a golf day. Yeah, let's say a
Speaker 3: corporate golf date.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: That enables that environment where different stakeholders from different entities
Speaker 2: or different backgrounds would be in one place to create
Speaker 2: that net those networking opportunities. What would you say would
Speaker 2: be very crucial in such environments? Or yeah, what what
Speaker 2: would you say would be very crucial to allow those
Speaker 2: kinds of conversations to happen in such environments?
Speaker 4: Well, you need to be very strategic when it comes
Speaker 4: to your your potential client. Remember what I said to you,
Speaker 4: there's a target market, but there's also individuals that understand
Speaker 4: exec what you're looking for. Give an example with MBI
Speaker 4: Golf Days. MH his Golf Days of MBI was found
Speaker 4: just when the lockdown was starting to is on faces.
Speaker 4: And we then decided, remember we used to we used
Speaker 4: to occupy the stadium suit at Wanderers as our office
Speaker 4: slash suit where we we sort of have our VIPs
Speaker 4: coming towards crickets and stuff like that. We ultimately decided,
Speaker 4: I mean we are now sitting on the stadium and
Speaker 4: there's absolute no one coming in, there's no walk in blue,
Speaker 4: it's just the stadium be undert The next movement you
Speaker 4: will see in the stadium during lockdown. It will be
Speaker 4: like a cat going across the stadium looking for a snack,
Speaker 4: and you're sitting there. You are tress as well. Everything
Speaker 4: is done by then virtually, telephonically, et cetera. So you
Speaker 4: can't wait the day they say you're allowed to go
Speaker 4: out there.
Speaker 3: M hm.
Speaker 4: The closest I will have will be I will play
Speaker 4: golf at wander As and when I get a chance.
Speaker 4: Watching my office, no one is coming in, no one
Speaker 4: is coming out. It's just waiting for me. Is too quiet.
Speaker 4: And it's not just quiet, it's said people last their economically,
Speaker 4: we're not doing well, and how do I then start
Speaker 4: to build my company from where is left off? And
Speaker 4: I decided then as soon as they opened, we must
Speaker 4: go to the client. No more waiting for a so
Speaker 4: called client. We arrange ourselves to get a booking and
Speaker 4: CCJ then and we had a very good turn out.
Speaker 4: The business networking was not only about MBI. There are
Speaker 4: other businesses. Guys will obviously exchange their business. I was
Speaker 4: only running the networking session and advising guys on issues
Speaker 4: of It's very important for you guys to circulate the business,
Speaker 4: and in exchange of business you're supporting each other's business.
Speaker 4: We already have a pain of network where there are
Speaker 4: different professionals and they can use each other going forward.
Speaker 4: So I brought the concept and bring it to life.
Speaker 4: I've booked the lounge and making sure that when they
Speaker 4: are relaxed and seated, the introduction must be allowed. That
Speaker 4: you stand up with them. I can introduce yourself for
Speaker 4: what do you do, just so we know. Please bring
Speaker 4: your business card with be on the registered book and
Speaker 4: make sure that you are known for what you are
Speaker 4: doing for a living, just so I can come to
Speaker 4: you when I need service, when I need you to
Speaker 4: help me. And then well, some of the gens came
Speaker 4: back to me to thank me for the setup because
Speaker 4: they managed to find signages with some of the golfers. Evertonia,
Speaker 4: I can tell you we never look back. M So
Speaker 4: there we go in the field.
Speaker 2: That's that's one hundred percent what I would envision as well,
Speaker 2: to say, you know, when one does a golf day
Speaker 2: like like like I said earlier, you're bringing people from
Speaker 2: different backgrounds, different professions and for them to be in
Speaker 2: one room.
Speaker 3: You're not just.
Speaker 2: Exploiting opportunities on your own bag. You're also creating opportunities
Speaker 2: for other professionals from different backgrounds. So there's something that
Speaker 2: you shared in relation to business, one of your philosophies
Speaker 2: where you say that they develop a vision of the
Speaker 2: good life, device a plan for how to attain it,
Speaker 2: go for it and check the progress along the way. Now,
Speaker 2: I would like to ask you particularly, and it would
Speaker 2: go around playing golf as well as planning and executing
Speaker 2: proper golf day from your and would you say that
Speaker 2: the whole concept of planning and execution when it comes
Speaker 2: to a round of golf mirrors that philosophy that you
Speaker 2: have in your business.
Speaker 4: Yes, in actual fact, that is very personal because every
Speaker 4: men and women are there the are capable of becoming
Speaker 4: the business owners. Remember, employee has a potential to become employer,
Speaker 4: you know, because now the concept and the previous concept
Speaker 4: has always been I become an employee waiting to get pension.
Speaker 4: So that should come to an end where an employee
Speaker 4: should put together exactly what they've accumulated experience wise to
Speaker 4: become employer. So by it's not doing, we will then
Speaker 4: be able to create as much opportunities as possible, including employment.
Speaker 4: HM and I always say to them that if you
Speaker 4: want to thank me for what I had done for you,
Speaker 4: do not come to me. I think you rather look
Speaker 4: for somebody who find themselves in the situation where you
Speaker 4: found yourself when I was helping you, to help that
Speaker 4: person because I saw the when we'll have actually broke
Speaker 4: the chain of this disadvantage and bring it to something better,
Speaker 4: just so everyone can have the opportunity. But lastly, Tony,
Speaker 4: I told people that when it comes to legacy, it's
Speaker 4: never about the material tangible stuff. In my view, lega
Speaker 4: is when somebody can make a living out of your wisdom. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and that's how I've tried and accommodated everyone that gravitated
Speaker 4: towards benefiting from us. I said to them, I can
Speaker 4: only show you the ropes because I cannot afford to
Speaker 4: make you overnight success. But all I can do for
Speaker 4: both of us is to perhaps give you my expertise
Speaker 4: and share with you and show you and equip you
Speaker 4: and empower you and educate one another. Let be a
Speaker 4: continuous professional development. Let's develop this together, and ultimately that's
Speaker 4: how we go back and check what we have planted.
Speaker 4: But I get wepping it up. I said to them,
Speaker 4: when you eat fruits you don't throw away the seeds,
Speaker 4: and that's residesly how you keep evolving. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: Such wisdom is needed in these times. And I like
Speaker 2: the fact that you said it's not tangible stuff, but
Speaker 2: it's more about creating a legacy from the wisdom that
Speaker 2: you have. Because if you can plant the seed, like
Speaker 2: you said, you don't throw away the seeds, rather plant
Speaker 2: it so that the next person can actually plow from
Speaker 2: it and the cycle continues. I really, really, really really
Speaker 2: they do that. Then I appreciate you sharing that with us,
Speaker 2: because often in life we are of the ideology to
Speaker 2: say that just because I do not have tangible resources
Speaker 2: to establish a business, or whatever efforts that I make
Speaker 2: will will go to no fruition. So you've planted a
Speaker 2: seat amongst myself and my colleagues, as well as all
Speaker 2: the audiences that's listening to say, whenever, whenever you've you've
Speaker 2: got a seed in mind and you've already exhausted it,
Speaker 2: or you've eat in the fruit of that seed, rather
Speaker 2: plant it so that the next person can can actually
Speaker 2: applow it. Just to move on to something a bit
Speaker 2: more relaxed, master mateka, I think this is something that
Speaker 2: will definitely disrupt that well. It has costed disruption in
Speaker 2: the professional golfing space. And since it's coming here in
Speaker 2: South Africa, I actually want to get your views on
Speaker 2: it to say, when you look get leave golf, which
Speaker 2: is the new in thing right now, and when you
Speaker 2: look at it from your professional investment, finance and sports background,
Speaker 2: what what what is your thought when it comes when
Speaker 2: it comes to the impact that it may have within
Speaker 2: the entire country.
Speaker 4: Look, thank you for the question, and this is just
Speaker 4: my opinion. I remember one of the media personnel asked
Speaker 4: me and I said, golf, it's not sports, it's a
Speaker 4: business because the economic impact that comes with this particular
Speaker 4: sports called golf. Actually it can somehow carry a village,
Speaker 4: it can carry a GDP, it can contribute to our
Speaker 4: well being. And that's precisely where Live was, in my views,
Speaker 4: was designed to perhaps put together such a huge substantial
Speaker 4: amount of money to atpect good golfers, et cetera. Even
Speaker 4: a so called average golfer will want to be the best.
Speaker 4: And you can only be fired by what is on
Speaker 4: the table. And tell you today, none of the golfers
Speaker 4: in the whole world with decline any offer, except for
Speaker 4: those who actually think they've made it already, but I'm
Speaker 4: talking about people who will want to perhaps get the
Speaker 4: exposure so live coming to South Africa. I think it's
Speaker 4: a huge economic impact to our economy, the GDP, et cetera.
Speaker 4: But at the second time, it's something that we've got
Speaker 4: to learn exactly how professional cedit because it's amazing to
Speaker 4: any how as human beings all egg below human beings
Speaker 4: in the world actually are given the similar opportunity by
Speaker 4: God two livings, eyes as sorry, hands, legs, two eyes,
Speaker 4: you know, the same size of mind, et cetera. But
Speaker 4: some are super super special. And he asked yourself that
Speaker 4: what actually distracted me from achieving this because we are
Speaker 4: given similar amounts of time, which is twenty four hours?
Speaker 4: Am I playing with my time? Am I not investing
Speaker 4: my time in this thing? I mean you can go
Speaker 4: look for what these guys do. They practice daily. They
Speaker 4: took it as a profession and I don't know, why
Speaker 4: are we not getting mm hmmmmmmmm.
Speaker 3: That's that's impactful.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I mean from if if, if we
Speaker 2: take it uh back here to South Africa, Like you said,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of money that's been invested in Live Golf,
Speaker 2: and a lot of professional golfers, even your average professional
Speaker 2: golfers would kill to get that opportunity to be a
Speaker 2: part of those fifty four players on the field. Now,
Speaker 2: if if we're talking about economy economic impact as a whole,
Speaker 2: I mean, uh, we we're talking about as ames, we're
Speaker 2: talking about unemployment and things of such nature. Do you
Speaker 2: personally feel that leave golf comes with opportunities uh, that
Speaker 2: can enable or that can improve the current unemployment rate
Speaker 2: or the current GDP. Like you said, Well, when it
Speaker 2: comes to the South African business market.
Speaker 4: You said, the conversation is more relexed. But now you
Speaker 4: can carry me and I'm gonna say this anyway. Remember
Speaker 4: let's count now we count informants, Tony. Yeah, how long
Speaker 4: have we known that live is coming to South Africa?
Speaker 4: M M And then ask, yes, ask any ordinary business
Speaker 4: person on what did they do to gravitate towards the
Speaker 4: opportunities that it comes with? Mhman, if you're doing nothing,
Speaker 4: you've got yourself to blame. There's so much that you
Speaker 4: can do. That's why I'm saying in a group of girls,
Speaker 4: there's always incredible men and eighty clunds. So we will
Speaker 4: talk and talk until live comes and go and there
Speaker 4: will be a fewer wether prepared individuals to perhaps gain
Speaker 4: out of it. And we were still watching them from
Speaker 4: the fence, and that is their problem. All we know,
Speaker 4: and you said, i' mna say it. All we know
Speaker 4: is to bend the tire and ask what is inform me.
Speaker 4: We are known for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we are very true.
Speaker 4: Because at the moment we were supposed to be gathering
Speaker 4: in the lecture room to find out what is our
Speaker 4: creativity taking out of this? What are we doing. Do
Speaker 4: we have a retail shop to actually design some very
Speaker 4: nice sneakers for these boys, some actually heads, you know,
Speaker 4: something to entice you know, everyone wants to sell alcohol.
Speaker 4: That's precisely how far we can go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fully, I fully agree with you, And like you said,
Speaker 2: we've had ample time to actually cut apply our thoughts
Speaker 2: around how we can actually take advantage of li've got
Speaker 2: now just to move away from leave golf that magic.
Speaker 2: I'm certain that as a golfer you've noticed a rise
Speaker 2: in golf simulators across the world, and there's even professional
Speaker 2: competition that's been held where people don't really have to
Speaker 2: go to a golf course and they just play on
Speaker 2: these simulators. Do you do you think that something like
Speaker 2: that would really work in South Africa or do you
Speaker 2: think it something that's that would be appealing to our
Speaker 2: so called social golfers here in South Africa.
Speaker 4: Well, in my views, again, I think some of these
Speaker 4: UH designed are made specifically to sort of accommodate an
Speaker 4: avoidance of weather kind of a situation if it's raining
Speaker 4: and hold that in the golf and something that can
Speaker 4: assist to satisfy the passion will will do it. But
Speaker 4: I can tell you nothing that looks like golf will
Speaker 4: replace golf on the course. And that's my philosope. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I have all the gudgets. I can be honest with you.
Speaker 4: If it's being on the range, it's still not enough.
Speaker 4: I need to tee off. Yeah, I want to see
Speaker 4: where that ball lengds and it has to be on
Speaker 4: the fairway and then I have to hit my shot,
Speaker 4: whether around the green or on the green, put it
Speaker 4: through and that's my fulfillment. But any other thing can
Speaker 4: really give me the same satisfaction.
Speaker 2: I like your answer, it's very honest. Then I agree
Speaker 2: with it one hundred percent. Now with that being said,
Speaker 2: I mean, we are heading towards the end of our episode.
Speaker 3: I just want to find out from you.
Speaker 2: You mentioned that you've played give or take around fifteen
Speaker 2: years now already. I would presume that one of the
Speaker 2: west moments of the moonish moments you've had on the
Speaker 2: golf course was your first time on the golf course
Speaker 2: wearing formal shoes and yeah, you just had a rough day.
Speaker 4: But I want to.
Speaker 2: Find out your highlights on the golf course in Mata
Speaker 2: because I've so much, I've so often had people celebrating
Speaker 2: their successes on the golf course, especially social golf has
Speaker 2: to say this and I've had three hole in ones,
Speaker 2: or I've had the opportunity to win our schools annual
Speaker 2: competition for five consecutive years. So I want to find
Speaker 2: out from your side to say, what would you say
Speaker 2: are your highlights when it comes to this lovely spot,
Speaker 2: and apart from your first day on the golf course,
Speaker 2: what is the one momish moment that you'd like to
Speaker 2: share with our audience.
Speaker 4: The moment like as in embalancing myself, Yes, sir, oh no,
Speaker 4: damn okay, Look, the playing on formal shoes was one
Speaker 4: of those. But you know, my friend is so kind.
Speaker 4: He actually accomplicated me. And I thought to myself, as
Speaker 4: I get to learn that, you know, golf is actually
Speaker 4: made of a company that you keep more than just
Speaker 4: a game itself. And eight out of ten times people
Speaker 4: that then burras me are people that I don't know.
Speaker 4: Some will have a conversation that is somehow irritating as
Speaker 4: you play, and it can get into you. I'm one
Speaker 4: person that don't hesitate to call it to you out
Speaker 4: if something like that happened. And I can't be really specific,
Speaker 4: but I remember pulling out.
Speaker 3: On the.
Speaker 4: I think it was it was the twelve hold, because
Speaker 4: we spread from the back nine with the gentleman and
Speaker 4: the other one happened to be very famous DJ that
Speaker 4: we're playing golf with. And the other gentleman actually, you know,
Speaker 4: he kept on saying stuff, you know, and that thrown
Speaker 4: me off because the conversation on its own actually start
Speaker 4: to stuck into your after thoughts, and as you play,
Speaker 4: you always try and process exactly what you've received from
Speaker 4: this gentleman. And at some point they were both giving
Speaker 4: each other parts and I was very close to the whole,
Speaker 4: but I decided let me started because it's not like
Speaker 4: I'm expecting them to just do their gimme or stuff
Speaker 4: like that. And then the ju said no, but Chilus,
Speaker 4: you can take that one and the other one said no,
Speaker 4: not the way he passed. This guy might not think
Speaker 4: the ball, you know what I said, and the Antonio
Speaker 4: must be with you. I love at that moment, but
Speaker 4: I was very angry. I said to him, m hm,
Speaker 4: you know what, I think I have important things to do.
Speaker 4: I'll pick up the ball. I don't care what I
Speaker 4: paid seven hundred and fifty to play. You can take it.
Speaker 4: I would rather go look for the guys that are
Speaker 4: willing to play golf with me and trust me. The
Speaker 4: guy even had the audacity to actually tell other people
Speaker 4: on the group that I'm Agino pulled out what we're
Speaker 4: playing as if I'm a bad person. But I felt
Speaker 4: like I don't have the capacity to continue if we're
Speaker 4: going to be and then for me, that's embarrassing. One
Speaker 4: and two is laughable, but three, at least play with
Speaker 4: people that have something called the respect to each other.
Speaker 4: I've looked at it that way.
Speaker 2: Now one hundred percent agree with you. Respect it of
Speaker 2: utmost importance, especially in a field or you know, in
Speaker 2: an environment where everybody, everybody is deemed to be a
Speaker 2: gentleman and everybody is deemed to be respectable in their
Speaker 2: own sense.
Speaker 3: So I really really agree with you on that one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's more like a grilliance than just the
Speaker 4: lashable it bally like it haunted me for a very
Speaker 4: long time. And but what the gentlemen wanted to achieve
Speaker 4: out of this but.
Speaker 2: Still not getting answers mm hmmm. And then, uh, mister,
Speaker 2: just before I let you go, I mean, I would
Speaker 2: really really like for our audience to be able to
Speaker 2: reach you as well when it comes to business related matters.
Speaker 2: Where exactly can they reach you? And then whilst sharing that,
Speaker 2: may you also share some ways of inspiration or ways
Speaker 2: of encouragement to people who were also intimidated by golf,
Speaker 2: just like yourself, to say, how do they get into
Speaker 2: the game and what would be the best approach.
Speaker 3: As your opinion, Well.
Speaker 4: I said this before, and I've always been saying that.
Speaker 3: Mm.
Speaker 4: Every man's the biggest enemy is their thoughts. And when
Speaker 4: I say men, I mean men and women. So whatever
Speaker 4: you think it's impossible, it's always impossible because of your belief.
Speaker 4: Just like when you create that negative thought, you start
Speaker 4: to have a fear, and that fear ultimately graduate becomes
Speaker 4: an admere. It wakes you up and you're just you're
Speaker 4: just having very very bad dreams. So happiness is very
Speaker 4: important because a happy person. I think you really need
Speaker 4: to possition yourself to a point where you must decide
Speaker 4: two ways of life. There's a noise which needs attention.
Speaker 4: You must decide whether you want to listen to it
Speaker 4: or you want to continue with the journey, because noise
Speaker 4: will delay you to your journey, but ignoredge will give
Speaker 4: you the wisdom to kre on with your journey. It
Speaker 4: is always the case that a lot of people dreams
Speaker 4: actually die before they realized those dreams because they had
Speaker 4: to invite a second opinion, even if it's a stranger.
Speaker 4: So one way or the add you've got yourself to
Speaker 4: blame if you don't ensure that your dream is put
Speaker 4: it into practice and realize that dream. You have to
Speaker 4: pursue your dreams. I believe there's a lot of potential
Speaker 4: businessmen and women who are held up by a fear,
Speaker 4: so they need to concare.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and where can people actually reach out or how
Speaker 2: can people reach out to NBI, even institutions that are
Speaker 2: currently listening to the podcast, how do they reach out
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 4: NBI is based in Waterfall at the Waterfall Head Office,
Speaker 4: just behind the World of Golf between wood Meat and
Speaker 4: Waterfall and we are at fifty four Maxwell Drive. That's
Speaker 4: as if somebody wants to have a work in visits,
Speaker 4: We've always had a stalite office in Cape Town because
Speaker 4: the obviously one not tooth lines that we're trying to
Speaker 4: also grow with them. And otherwise you go to our
Speaker 4: website www dot Matzek Investment, which is singular investment dot
Speaker 4: and some will obviously prefer to just go to info
Speaker 4: at Matak Investment dot Matzek Investment and if they call,
Speaker 4: then they can reach out on zero one zero double
Speaker 4: zero five five nine four two and that's our office line.
Speaker 2: Awesome stuff, Awesome stuffs. Mataka are really really up appreciate
Speaker 2: your insights and your inputs into today's conversation, and I
Speaker 2: believe that both myself and our audience have really really
Speaker 2: learned a lot. Like if anything that stood out for
Speaker 2: me throughout this conversation is when you spoke about wisdom
Speaker 2: and the seat, and I think that's something that.
Speaker 3: Ignites life into people.
Speaker 2: Here in such ways ignites life into people because many,
Speaker 2: many times, like I said, we fail to understand how
Speaker 2: important it is to share what we know with the
Speaker 2: rest of the world, or to share what works with
Speaker 2: the rest of the world, because by so doing we're
Speaker 2: breaking chains of disadvantaged mindsets. So I really really appreciate
Speaker 2: all the inputs and having a chat with you today.
Speaker 2: It was a brisk and I hope and I look
Speaker 2: forward to greater things from MBI and I hope to
Speaker 2: one day meet you on the golf course and maybe
Speaker 2: have a round of golf with you.
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Tony, thank you for having me.
Speaker 4: I really appreciate the time and plad that you actually
Speaker 4: partial in the same sentiments and hopefully we will catch
Speaker 4: up again.
Speaker 2: Like you said, awesome stuff, awesome stuff. So, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 2: there we have it. That's that day, Machilo Nick Mateka,
Speaker 2: who is the founder and director of my take a
Speaker 2: business investment. So, ladies and gentlemen, we head up plus today.
Speaker 2: And you know how I operate. I always say that
Speaker 2: if you're waking on Thursday, then there's something wrong. Because
Speaker 2: we got to play golf. Ladies and gentlemen, golf is
Speaker 2: life and life is golf. You cannot separate the two.
Speaker 2: And if you're waking on Friday, then we definitely need
Speaker 2: to sit down you and I to discuss how to
Speaker 2: make sure that you are out there on the golf course.
Speaker 2: If anything I can tell you is that all opportunities
Speaker 2: are available on the golf course. If you want to
Speaker 2: talk science, there are scientists on the golf course. Want
Speaker 2: to talk medicine, there's medical doctors or medical professionals on
Speaker 2: the golf course. If you want to talk entertainment, there
Speaker 2: are entertainers on the golf course. So we have been said,
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, I shall sign out right now. I'm
Speaker 2: the one and only twenty tone, the magician, the ball
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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2: The one and only Tony Tone signing it out, thank you,
Speaker 2: see you again next week.
Speaker 3: I love you guys,