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<v Speaker 1>In a world where fairways meet the airwaves, where Birdie's

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<v Speaker 1>and banker collide. Welcome to the show that takes you

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the clubhouse and onto the green. This is Balls

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<v Speaker 1>and Tees, your passport to the golfing universe, where every

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<v Speaker 1>swing tells the story and every part has its punchline.

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<v Speaker 1>Get ready to step onto the large screens and dive

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<v Speaker 1>into the world of diveds, drives and delightful better the Magician.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, ladies and gentlemen, it is the one and

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<v Speaker 2>only Tony Tone, the Magician, the boy with a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of players, and yes, I am a classic man. So,

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<v Speaker 2>ladies and gentlemen, you are tuned into the one and

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<v Speaker 2>only Balls and Tees.

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<v Speaker 3>And guess what if.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the first time you hear my voice on the airwaves,

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<v Speaker 2>then you definitely have been listening to the wrong, wrong frequency.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it is the place to be, especially when we

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<v Speaker 2>talk about social golf, we talk about anything that has

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<v Speaker 2>to do with golf. We are not just local, we

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<v Speaker 2>are international. We touch places that no other podcast around

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<v Speaker 2>South Africa touches. We go to Russia, we go to

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<v Speaker 2>your career, go to Indonesia, Malaysia, wherever it is named

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<v Speaker 2>and I just want to say to everybody out there,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for the continuous support that you have been

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<v Speaker 2>showing us from the get go. This is our second

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<v Speaker 2>season and this is episode five. As you know from

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<v Speaker 2>the get go, from the first season of this from

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<v Speaker 2>the first episode of this season.

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<v Speaker 3>It has just been blazing, blazing hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Now today, listen, ladies and gentlemen, I always say get

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<v Speaker 2>yourself an ice cold glass of water. Today I need

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<v Speaker 2>you to get a twenty liter bucket of water. Not

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<v Speaker 2>just because the show is hot, no, no, no no, it's

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<v Speaker 2>because here in Howting there's been a lot of hailstorms

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<v Speaker 2>and I want you to actually melt that ice that water.

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<v Speaker 3>So what we're going to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, we just want to take a two minute

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<v Speaker 2>break and then when I come back, I we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>introducing our guests.

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<v Speaker 3>In that two minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Make sure that you get something to refresh, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>about to get really hot. So let's go for that

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<v Speaker 2>two minute break, and then let's get back to business

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<v Speaker 2>afterwards and introduce our guest who's eagerly waiting to get

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<v Speaker 2>into this conversation with me.

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<v Speaker 1>In a world where fairways meet the airwaves, where Birdie's

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<v Speaker 1>and Banker collide. Welcome to the show that takes you

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the clubhouse and onto the green, the balls, and

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<v Speaker 1>t's your passport to the golfing universe, where every swing

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<v Speaker 1>tells the story and every part has its punchline. Get

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<v Speaker 1>ready to step onto the large screens and dive into

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<v Speaker 1>the world of diveds, drives and delightful better the magician.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, ladies and gentlemen, as I promised you before

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<v Speaker 2>our break, we are going to have a hot, hot,

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<v Speaker 2>hot episode. So for those who just joined in now,

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<v Speaker 2>it is the one and only Tony Town the Magician

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<v Speaker 2>on the frequency, and I hope you've got that painting

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<v Speaker 2>little bucket of cool water so that you cool yourself

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<v Speaker 2>and then you melt the hailstones from these stones that

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<v Speaker 2>we're facing nowadays. So, ladies and gentlemen, without wasting any

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<v Speaker 2>more time, I would really, really really like you to

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<v Speaker 2>help me introduce our guests for the evening. Who is

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<v Speaker 2>none but the only Master machinee Nick Matfaka, And then

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<v Speaker 2>we will be having a beautiful, beautiful conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>Mister Mataka, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Said thank you very much, Tony, thank you for having.

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<v Speaker 3>Me awesome stuff, not the mataca.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I always try to hype people up and

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<v Speaker 2>introduce my guests in a verdo of vicious way, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that I've really really done much justice.

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<v Speaker 2>Perhaps if you can just take the marc and then

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<v Speaker 2>reintroduce yourself on a pharannel to tell people who exactly

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Matake is, what's happening in your space and how

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<v Speaker 2>did you find your love for golf?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, thank you for the opportunity. And my name is

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<v Speaker 4>Machelo Surnameteke. I know a lot of people still know

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<v Speaker 4>me as Nick, and every time somebody say Nick, I

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<v Speaker 4>go like, well, this must be my former classmate or all. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that name is actually being used for a very very

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<v Speaker 4>good papos because it was just for my work and

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<v Speaker 4>my school. So those things I'm long past and now

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<v Speaker 4>I'm back to Machilo Matake. And yes, nos, look, I

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<v Speaker 4>am a financial advice by profession, and obviously I work

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<v Speaker 4>as an executive at MA Take Business Investment started at

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<v Speaker 4>a corporate level, Discovery in particular, and established MBI at

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<v Speaker 4>some point. Our field of expertise it's more about giving

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<v Speaker 4>advice on certain categories of insurance. So besides the lifestyle

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<v Speaker 4>of golf, I mean artlet. I ran about four in

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<v Speaker 4>Comrades marathon in my life, finished all of them, and

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<v Speaker 4>I've taken part in quite a lot of marathons around

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<v Speaker 4>how they in an hout of again the country, and

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<v Speaker 4>I happened to also done thirteen two Oceans marathons. So

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<v Speaker 4>there's there's about I think three one two green numbers

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<v Speaker 4>and one blue number. Well it's two blue number, one

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<v Speaker 4>green number. So in essence, I've done four in Comrades

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<v Speaker 4>tad in two Oceans, and I've done just ten oly

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<v Speaker 4>Down marathons. Those are your ultramarathons. And I'm a very

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<v Speaker 4>passionate golfer. I play golf at least three times per

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<v Speaker 4>week and idle in my mind through the sports because

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<v Speaker 4>that's where the social life is. If you ask me

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<v Speaker 4>what actually made me to end up being so active

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<v Speaker 4>in either golf or or athletics, was precisely about trying

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<v Speaker 4>to sort of stay healthy. That's number one and obvious.

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<v Speaker 4>But again, I don't think I had passion for running,

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<v Speaker 4>to be quite honest, I never liked it. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>being honest, Tony. I hated running so much that my

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<v Speaker 4>first marathon was only to prove to my ps that

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<v Speaker 4>I can also do this, and because they keep on

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<v Speaker 4>coming to me until such a time that I decided

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to try this and I'm going to show

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<v Speaker 4>you because I liked just burning my upper body to

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<v Speaker 4>look nice then and also had a passion to sort

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<v Speaker 4>of do some short films in acting and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 4>which didn't last.

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<v Speaker 3>Long longer lines.

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<v Speaker 4>I know. When they rooted me for running, I said,

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<v Speaker 4>but when am I going to get out of this

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<v Speaker 4>just running? I was so so creative about it. But

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<v Speaker 4>thanks to my friends, thanks to everyone that recruited me,

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<v Speaker 4>including the former president of the Lions, a very good

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<v Speaker 4>friend of mine. Obviously I won't mention his name, but

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<v Speaker 4>he's well known. He came to me and say, my friend,

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<v Speaker 4>we need to do this, and the day I said yes,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I received almost forty emails from him telling

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<v Speaker 4>me what I need to do, what type of running

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<v Speaker 4>issues and stuff like that, and I was already hurtful,

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<v Speaker 4>but that hurtful actually led me to go and run

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<v Speaker 4>and just prove to him that I can do this thing.

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<v Speaker 4>So ever since the first medal, in short, I never

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<v Speaker 4>looked back, you know, I never look back. So I

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<v Speaker 4>create this passion to evolve. Golf was something very intimidating

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<v Speaker 4>to me, to be honest, So because I found myself

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<v Speaker 4>in the business where I engage professionals and clients and

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<v Speaker 4>like minded individuals. On the course, a good friend of

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<v Speaker 4>mine who happened to be a business partner, has invited

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<v Speaker 4>me and he did not prepare. So here I am.

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<v Speaker 4>He booked a fourball. I'm included. We're playing past view,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, he said, we're going to play a view,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. Funny enough, I remember vivically that I was

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<v Speaker 4>wearing the formal shoes and I just come out of

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<v Speaker 4>work and we have the afternoon tea of I have

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<v Speaker 4>to hire everything from shoes to clve and as if

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<v Speaker 4>it's not enough, every single shot was surprisingly not going high,

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<v Speaker 4>let alone slicing and all that. I was actually asking myself,

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<v Speaker 4>is this a thread? And I hated golf so much

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<v Speaker 4>from that day because the whole day I embarrassed myself.

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<v Speaker 4>I could not hit the ball. A friend of mine

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<v Speaker 4>actually never told me. That was the first time. I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's like nearly fifteen years ago. Then I told

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<v Speaker 4>myself that if anything, nothing in this whole world end wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything that's wrong. If the beginning was not well prepared,

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<v Speaker 4>the end will obviously reciprocate and it will reflect and

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<v Speaker 4>expose the exact beginning that you had actually impact on.

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<v Speaker 4>And I decided, you know what, when I have to start,

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<v Speaker 4>get the coach, go to the range. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>this is the attitude with me. I told myself, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna go back and prove to him that I can

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<v Speaker 4>also play golf as soon as I got my lesson.

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<v Speaker 4>So it took me about six months of lessons, hitting

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<v Speaker 4>your shots, gentlemen, being very patient with me until such

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<v Speaker 4>a time I gained confidence, and before you know it,

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<v Speaker 4>I was the one where clearly annoyed them by inviting

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<v Speaker 4>them about.

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<v Speaker 2>You developed a patient after being thrown into the deep end.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, remember I read somewhere away they say in any

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<v Speaker 4>man's success, there's always a fear that's standing between him

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<v Speaker 4>and just going to which their objectives. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>it was a problem with me because all these things

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<v Speaker 4>were intimidating me so much that if I can't do

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<v Speaker 4>it right, then I don't need to do it, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>But if somebody actually thrown me into the deep end

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<v Speaker 4>on that particular time and then I know what to rectify.

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<v Speaker 4>I still thank them so much because ultimately I developed

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<v Speaker 4>a passion. M hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Now now masthematically, let let's talk about the two different spaces. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned three spaces, of which one being marathon, which

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<v Speaker 2>is fast paced, I believe, and it requires a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of insurance. And then the acting, which I believe it's

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<v Speaker 2>more than just the physical appearance. But obviously your state

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<v Speaker 2>of mind is to be clear because you have to

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<v Speaker 2>remember the lines. And then now we're talking about gold.

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<v Speaker 2>Now with these three different spaces which require different energy levels,

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<v Speaker 2>how did you then adjust from one to the other

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<v Speaker 2>every time you just stumbled upon these invites or these

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<v Speaker 2>challenges that were brought to you by your friends.

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<v Speaker 4>Ye, are a very good question because I guess it

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<v Speaker 4>was a question of number one. I hate a vacuum time.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's the first. I always wanted to keep myself busy.

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<v Speaker 4>If if it's not studying, it must be physical activities

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<v Speaker 4>are awake. And that's how I've really tried to map

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<v Speaker 4>out my day. And I wanted to use my time

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<v Speaker 4>for things that I feel can ultimately be written into

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<v Speaker 4>the history books about myself. So I know zeuch about acting.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to lie to you. A friend of

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<v Speaker 4>mine who happened to be at actually in me because

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<v Speaker 4>when I was twenty six twenty seven, I was one

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<v Speaker 4>of those people that I decided to buy such a

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<v Speaker 4>big car because you want to be filled presence wise,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm in business, so what you know. So for

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<v Speaker 4>that particular reason, he said to me, we need you

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<v Speaker 4>your physique. And again, at least you have something that

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<v Speaker 4>we can use in that film, because the short films

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<v Speaker 4>went necessarily your big short films. It was just one

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<v Speaker 4>day star at this exposure in terms of the talent

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<v Speaker 4>from the young actors, et cetera. So it happened to

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<v Speaker 4>be in the mix. And then I said, no, it's

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<v Speaker 4>fine as long as I'm still waking and I can

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<v Speaker 4>be able to and I will be able to do

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<v Speaker 4>it for the sake of my maybe passion. But eventually

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<v Speaker 4>I decided, no, man, this is not for me. So

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<v Speaker 4>it was a waste of time. As for the learning,

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<v Speaker 4>preparing myself, taking kids to school, drop them off at seven,

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<v Speaker 4>Then I have my whole day. Then I ask for

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<v Speaker 4>for a just one day of the week to perhaps participate,

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<v Speaker 4>involve at work. They know it's standards. Yeah, I will

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<v Speaker 4>play golf at least two to three times per week

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<v Speaker 2>you're keeping a healthy lifestyle. Now, if anything that I

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<v Speaker 2>to look at golf and the athletic aspect of your life,

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<v Speaker 2>are there any lessons that actually put into each other

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<v Speaker 2>space to say, Okay, maybe in athletic athletics, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>endurance stamina is one of the most important thing or

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<v Speaker 2>or vice versa.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Bunnie, I can say this in my mother tongue. Firstly,

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<v Speaker 4>happened that God takes everything, and then I guess, I say,

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<v Speaker 4>at least and if I have my health, I think

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<v Speaker 4>I can still try and pick myself up. I can't

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<v Speaker 4>imagine a day with out trying and invest in my health.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, at some point we're going to have commobilities,

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<v Speaker 4>but now we have the opportunity to delay those mobilities.

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<v Speaker 4>Two things that will keep it healthy is fitness and happiness.

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<v Speaker 4>And through thickness you are then able to sort of

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<v Speaker 4>like what you see the development of your body and

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<v Speaker 4>the endurance that comes with it. The sleep, by sleeping enough,

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<v Speaker 4>of people don't realize that. And again, because you sleep

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<v Speaker 4>on time, you wake up on time. The fact that

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<v Speaker 4>you have time management aspect of it. It's easy for

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<v Speaker 4>that is very, very very important in our life is time.

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<v Speaker 4>a person who failed to manage their own money. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's precisely how I was taught. And again, getting into interviews,

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<v Speaker 4>meetings and everything, whether you are five minutes late is

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<v Speaker 4>a sign of disrespect. You don't do that. Tell people

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<v Speaker 4>that make it so for that it helps me so

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<v Speaker 4>much about how best can I manage my time? How

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<v Speaker 4>best can I rather prepare myself. I may not have everything,

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<v Speaker 4>but at least let me be proud of the health,

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<v Speaker 4>the fitness, you know, and ultimately build my happiness through it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason I was actually asking that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>options to say, am I taking a cart or am I.

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<v Speaker 3>Taking a long walk? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>From an athletic like yourself, I just want to get

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<v Speaker 2>an idea which one would you prepare to do on

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<v Speaker 2>the golf course, taking that long walk or just a

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<v Speaker 2>cat for the day, to say, you know what I

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<v Speaker 4>I hardly take a cant I don't. I do not

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<v Speaker 4>take a cant. In actual fact, in some of the

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<v Speaker 4>courses where I'm forced to take a cart, I hope

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<v Speaker 4>on off the can't I sometimes walk, you know at

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<v Speaker 4>my looking for me and I said, no, but I'm

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<v Speaker 4>catching up. I still have a conversation with myself and

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<v Speaker 4>I enjoy that so much. And besides, it actually contributes

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<v Speaker 4>to my golf and it helps me perhaps to prepare

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<v Speaker 4>for each shot as I walked, what's my ball? And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm used to it. I don't know at what point

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<v Speaker 4>will think I need to use a cart because using

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<v Speaker 4>a kite deprives you a little count of fitness that

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<v Speaker 4>you may have gained by just taking a walk, and

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<v Speaker 4>I just don't like using the cart. Y.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that definitely makes sense, and like you said, it

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<v Speaker 2>helps you prepare for the next shot and you're able

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<v Speaker 2>to have those small conversations with yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>So, Master Matak, I just want to find.

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<v Speaker 2>Out as the director and the founder of MBI, right

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<v Speaker 2>which basically, like you said, you focus on corporate clients

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<v Speaker 2>and SMEs. I just want to find out how important

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<v Speaker 2>the golf course environment is to you. As the founder

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<v Speaker 2>and director when it comes to building and naturing relationships

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<v Speaker 2>with your clients.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Just not so long ago, I was telling my

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<v Speaker 4>my mate that if anything, every golf course is the

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<v Speaker 4>place where you find the like mind individuals. Mmm one

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<v Speaker 4>or the other. They will discuss their field of expertise,

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<v Speaker 4>be it they have influence in their companies or they

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<v Speaker 4>are decision makers in their companies. It took me time

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<v Speaker 4>to actually understand that concept. Yeah. And as I understood

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<v Speaker 4>the concept, then I thought, then what are the target markets?

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<v Speaker 4>Because not everyone on the golf course will somehow give

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<v Speaker 4>you the signages that you're looking for. Yeah, so you

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<v Speaker 4>need to work on those two things. One your target market,

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<v Speaker 4>filter of expertise. I obviously the first thing that I

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<v Speaker 4>always say as a standard rule. I tell my colleagues

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<v Speaker 4>that the client is the main ingredient of our success.

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<v Speaker 4>So we thought a client, any shops will close. It

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't matter which type of shops. It can be a bank,

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<v Speaker 4>it can be a lot of it can be an

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<v Speaker 4>engineer company, it can be anything. For as long as

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<v Speaker 4>there's no client, there's absolute no need for that operate

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<v Speaker 4>because those are the ingredient of our success. In actual effect,

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<v Speaker 4>they are the main ingreds. So when I look at

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<v Speaker 4>why should we then set up an operational ability for

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<v Speaker 4>these people to knock at our doors? Yeah, I thought

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<v Speaker 4>to myself, and I hope I'm not going part your questions.

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<v Speaker 4>As thought to myself that instead of waiting in my

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<v Speaker 4>office for the client, I must go to the client.

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<v Speaker 4>Where do I find my client. It's not at a

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<v Speaker 4>soccer field, it's not at the stadia. They are there

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<v Speaker 4>in the course, because eight out of ten times, these

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<v Speaker 4>are your decision makers, this are your company owners. These

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<v Speaker 4>are the like minded individuals that I can certainly classify

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<v Speaker 4>them as a target market. And as if it's not enough,

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<v Speaker 4>I will then make it much more comfortable by getting

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<v Speaker 4>them in one room. Can it can be the club,

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<v Speaker 4>restaurant or anything. Just so we sit and at times

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<v Speaker 4>have a discussion and before you know it, business needs

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<v Speaker 4>to be circulated amongst ourselves. And that's not monopoly, it's

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<v Speaker 4>an ideological common objective.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hm.

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<v Speaker 2>No, one hundred percent, master mateka. I think we can

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<v Speaker 2>take our three minute break right now and then when

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<v Speaker 2>we come back, I actually want us to delve more

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<v Speaker 2>deeper into the social golf aspect and business as a

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<v Speaker 2>whole to say, how do we then capitalize as golfers

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<v Speaker 2>on the golf course or as entrepreneurs on the golf

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<v Speaker 2>course to make sure that we do not miss those opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>And what can one look out for when having conversations

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<v Speaker 2>with people on the golf course in order for you

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<v Speaker 2>to past out sell yourself and secondly, to solve solutions,

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<v Speaker 2>because I believe every single business objective is to solve

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<v Speaker 2>solutions for its clients. So if we can go for

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<v Speaker 2>the three minute break and then when we come back,

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<v Speaker 2>we will delve more into this conversation and yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>can get your sights on it at some stuff. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>ladies and gentlemen, we're going for that three minute break,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when we come back, please make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>in the interim you refill those twenty litersbaccas of water.

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<v Speaker 2>I am sure they are empty at the moment, because,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, we're going to have an insightful conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, there's something that our guests actually pointed

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<v Speaker 2>out today. I thought he was just into athletics and golf,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he mentioned something about eighteen. So we learned

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<v Speaker 2>as we converse with people. So it was a great

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<v Speaker 2>one to find out. So let's go to that break

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<v Speaker 2>and then when we come back will definitely find out

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<v Speaker 2>a bit more about mister Mattek, his universe of golf,

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<v Speaker 2>and his business as a whole.

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<v Speaker 1>In a world where fairways meet the airweeks where Murdie's

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<v Speaker 1>and Banker collide, Welcome to the show. That takes you

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the clubhouse and onto the green. This is Balls

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<v Speaker 1>and ts your passport to the golfing universe where every

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<v Speaker 1>swing tells the story and every part has its parts lay.

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<v Speaker 1>Get ready, step onto the large screens and dive into

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<v Speaker 1>the world of divents, drives and delightful better.

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<v Speaker 2>The Magician All right, ladies and gentlemen, it is still

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<v Speaker 2>the one and only Tony tone on Bows and Teas.

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<v Speaker 2>And like I said, if it's the first time that

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<v Speaker 2>you hear my voice, you've probably been listening to the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong frequencies. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the hardest podcast

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to golf talk, and the Magician is

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<v Speaker 2>here to make sure that I give you a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a whisk from my side, to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that you understand what's happening around you when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to gold most particularly in normal communities, not professional golf,

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<v Speaker 2>but under normal circumstances where people can actually see network

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<v Speaker 2>create relationships.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is Balls and Teas.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, ladies and gentlemen, we are joined today by the

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<v Speaker 2>director and found out of MBI, Mastermataka, and he is

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<v Speaker 2>still waiting for us to make sure that he gives

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<v Speaker 2>us more information about his space or his universe when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to golf and his business Mastermataka.

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<v Speaker 3>Is still with us.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I'm here, sir, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, before we went onto the break, you mentioned very

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<v Speaker 2>crucial points when it comes to business to say clients

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<v Speaker 2>or customers are your main ingredient, and you find it

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<v Speaker 2>very ungruty for yourself to just sit in the office

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<v Speaker 2>and say that the clients will come, rather go out

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<v Speaker 2>into the golf course and now put them into one

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<v Speaker 2>actually dig deeper into that, I just want to find

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<v Speaker 2>out from your site in your own ways to say,

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<v Speaker 2>when someone mentions the word social golf, what does it

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<v Speaker 2>particularly mean to you, because it often under circumstances people

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<v Speaker 2>would would would say, no, it's just an environment to relax, or.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just for fun.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just want to find out from your side,

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<v Speaker 2>as someone who's in business, someone who is dedicated to

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<v Speaker 2>what you do, whether it be playing golf, whether it

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<v Speaker 2>be athletics, whether it be business. I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>get the perspective from your sir.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, if you come across somebody calling themselves a social golfer,

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<v Speaker 4>please remember this way. The biggest difference between professional and

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<v Speaker 4>a mata is the direction of money. So professionals get

434
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<v Speaker 4>paid to participate. Social golfer pays to participate. So that's

435
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<v Speaker 4>what I'm trying to explain that in as much as

436
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<v Speaker 4>I don't make a living out of it, m I'm

437
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<v Speaker 4>passionate and still playing it as at the social level. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that's precisely what it means.

439
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<v Speaker 2>So the other is getting paid while the other is

440
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<v Speaker 2>spending money.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, the other one is actually paying to participate,

442
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:20.240
<v Speaker 4>and they guys will obviously get paid to participate. They're

443
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<v Speaker 4>actually getting everybode to participate. Then everything is covered probably,

444
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<v Speaker 4>but they will still be getting paid.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I think that that is a very solid

447
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:36.920
<v Speaker 2>explanation and I will keep that one on the records

448
00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:40.680
<v Speaker 2>because it definitely makes sense. Now with that being said,

449
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you mentioned that you try to play at

450
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:46.960
<v Speaker 2>least twice or three times in a week, and you

451
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:51.039
<v Speaker 2>being a director and a founder of MBI, right, and

452
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:55.519
<v Speaker 2>having to spend so much time with different individuals on

453
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<v Speaker 2>the golf course, I mean around the golf roughly last

454
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<v Speaker 2>about four and a half hours to about five I

455
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<v Speaker 2>was depending on the pace of the course on that

456
00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:08.200
<v Speaker 2>particular day. So yeah, many people would go on the

457
00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:10.319
<v Speaker 2>golf course for that four to five hours and then

458
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:14.519
<v Speaker 2>conversations start coming up. I mean we I would presume

459
00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:18.359
<v Speaker 2>that people would talk about literally everything in the world

460
00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:20.960
<v Speaker 2>to say, Okay, this is who I am, this is

461
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:23.960
<v Speaker 2>what I do, this is my family structure. Well, depending

462
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:27.200
<v Speaker 2>on how the conversation goes. Now, I want to understand

463
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<v Speaker 2>on your side, as someone who's business minded and are

464
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:35.519
<v Speaker 2>on the golf course to actually make business, how do

465
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<v Speaker 2>you then drive conversations or take whatever information or conversation

466
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<v Speaker 2>to your advantage so that it aligns with your business objectives.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, trust me, I've mentioned acting, So acting, I'm going

468
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:56.039
<v Speaker 4>to give an acting acting. You could be on set

469
00:32:56.880 --> 00:33:01.759
<v Speaker 4>for nearly the whole day, but we appear on the

470
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:07.359
<v Speaker 4>screen for about to five seconds. Yeah, what I'm saying,

471
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<v Speaker 4>So eight out of ten times you are not going

472
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<v Speaker 4>to clinch the deal at golf on the day you

473
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:21.759
<v Speaker 4>meet a stranger. Yeah, it's an introduction and somebody needs

474
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:24.440
<v Speaker 4>to actually know. They must have a human touch on

475
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<v Speaker 4>who am I dealing with because golf and it's always

476
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.440
<v Speaker 4>designed in such a way that it reveals your character

477
00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:36.079
<v Speaker 4>trust me, I can be very impatient with people who

478
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:39.359
<v Speaker 4>have no artiqude when it comes to golf, and if

479
00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:43.559
<v Speaker 4>you touch me based on that, it's okay. But at

480
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<v Speaker 4>the same time, I find a lot of guys that

481
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:51.160
<v Speaker 4>actually resonate and understand that there's an artiqude and through

482
00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:57.480
<v Speaker 4>that we start to have some common views about how

483
00:33:57.559 --> 00:34:01.799
<v Speaker 4>can we sort of play and conversation just flow, you know.

484
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:07.400
<v Speaker 4>So it's not always that going to meet a golfer

485
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:11.039
<v Speaker 4>that has got something to give in actual effect. And

486
00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:17.280
<v Speaker 4>I hate break this down. There's a lot of golf groups,

487
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:27.719
<v Speaker 4>and in golf groups there's ten credible men and sixty clowns,

488
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<v Speaker 4>if I may put it away, because there's people who

489
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:35.599
<v Speaker 4>does nasty things and obviously go with the opportunistic mentality

490
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:39.239
<v Speaker 4>on the golf. So I'm just saying and using this

491
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<v Speaker 4>word for everyone to be careful of exactly who they

492
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:48.440
<v Speaker 4>engaging when it comes to a golf because it can

493
00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:55.239
<v Speaker 4>be over exaggerated. So always that I will have sort

494
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:59.239
<v Speaker 4>of somebody that can exchange business with my company, it

495
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:03.840
<v Speaker 4>is just six out of ten times, which is sixty

496
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<v Speaker 4>percent of the time, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now that's very interesting, and now I think that's

498
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<v Speaker 2>where a lot of people have actually been misinterpreting the

499
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:20.280
<v Speaker 2>whole concept of conducting business on the golf course, because,

500
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:24.599
<v Speaker 2>like you said, there's opportunists out therehood mainly just go

501
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:26.719
<v Speaker 2>out there to say, you know what, if this person

502
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:29.559
<v Speaker 2>doesn't really talk the language that I will talk, then

503
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:33.519
<v Speaker 2>there's no need for us to continue with the conversation. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I think what you just said builds up to my

505
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:41.119
<v Speaker 2>next question, because I was going to say to you

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<v Speaker 2>what I've noticed over the couple of years, the past

507
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:46.440
<v Speaker 2>couple of years, is that a lot of young professionals

508
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:50.679
<v Speaker 2>are then have started moving away from your traditional networking

509
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:53.599
<v Speaker 2>sessions and a lot of you'd find a lot of

510
00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:57.360
<v Speaker 2>them getting more involved into golf because they have this

511
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:01.320
<v Speaker 2>ideology to say that is where business happens.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing that uh, which is also part of what

514
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<v Speaker 2>you said, you mentioned etiquette. An etiquaide would go with

515
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:14.039
<v Speaker 2>the setting itself, the environment that one is in.

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<v Speaker 3>Our presume.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to find out if we if we're

518
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<v Speaker 2>talking about golf court setting or a golf a social

519
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:27.960
<v Speaker 2>golf event setting that would be suitable for business conduct.

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00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:31.360
<v Speaker 3>Maybe let's say a golf day. Yeah, let's say a

521
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:32.280
<v Speaker 3>corporate golf date.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:38.000
<v Speaker 2>That enables that environment where different stakeholders from different entities

524
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:42.480
<v Speaker 2>or different backgrounds would be in one place to create

525
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:46.840
<v Speaker 2>that net those networking opportunities. What would you say would

526
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:50.679
<v Speaker 2>be very crucial in such environments? Or yeah, what what

527
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:53.960
<v Speaker 2>would you say would be very crucial to allow those

528
00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:57.760
<v Speaker 2>kinds of conversations to happen in such environments?

529
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<v Speaker 4>Well, you need to be very strategic when it comes

530
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:08.880
<v Speaker 4>to your your potential client. Remember what I said to you,

531
00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:12.719
<v Speaker 4>there's a target market, but there's also individuals that understand

532
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:15.840
<v Speaker 4>exec what you're looking for. Give an example with MBI

533
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:20.440
<v Speaker 4>Golf Days. MH his Golf Days of MBI was found

534
00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:28.840
<v Speaker 4>just when the lockdown was starting to is on faces.

535
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:34.360
<v Speaker 4>And we then decided, remember we used to we used

536
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:39.639
<v Speaker 4>to occupy the stadium suit at Wanderers as our office

537
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:46.039
<v Speaker 4>slash suit where we we sort of have our VIPs

538
00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:49.960
<v Speaker 4>coming towards crickets and stuff like that. We ultimately decided,

539
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:52.320
<v Speaker 4>I mean we are now sitting on the stadium and

540
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:55.440
<v Speaker 4>there's absolute no one coming in, there's no walk in blue,

541
00:37:55.599 --> 00:38:03.920
<v Speaker 4>it's just the stadium be undert The next movement you

542
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:06.440
<v Speaker 4>will see in the stadium during lockdown. It will be

543
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:09.599
<v Speaker 4>like a cat going across the stadium looking for a snack,

544
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:13.920
<v Speaker 4>and you're sitting there. You are tress as well. Everything

545
00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:18.800
<v Speaker 4>is done by then virtually, telephonically, et cetera. So you

546
00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:22.079
<v Speaker 4>can't wait the day they say you're allowed to go

547
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:22.840
<v Speaker 4>out there.

548
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<v Speaker 3>M hm.

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<v Speaker 4>The closest I will have will be I will play

550
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:29.760
<v Speaker 4>golf at wander As and when I get a chance.

551
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:33.960
<v Speaker 4>Watching my office, no one is coming in, no one

552
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:37.000
<v Speaker 4>is coming out. It's just waiting for me. Is too quiet.

553
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:43.079
<v Speaker 4>And it's not just quiet, it's said people last their economically,

554
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:47.079
<v Speaker 4>we're not doing well, and how do I then start

555
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:53.079
<v Speaker 4>to build my company from where is left off? And

556
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:57.159
<v Speaker 4>I decided then as soon as they opened, we must

557
00:38:57.199 --> 00:39:00.280
<v Speaker 4>go to the client. No more waiting for a so

558
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:06.920
<v Speaker 4>called client. We arrange ourselves to get a booking and

559
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:12.039
<v Speaker 4>CCJ then and we had a very good turn out.

560
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:17.840
<v Speaker 4>The business networking was not only about MBI. There are

561
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:23.480
<v Speaker 4>other businesses. Guys will obviously exchange their business. I was

562
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:30.679
<v Speaker 4>only running the networking session and advising guys on issues

563
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:35.159
<v Speaker 4>of It's very important for you guys to circulate the business,

564
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:39.960
<v Speaker 4>and in exchange of business you're supporting each other's business.

565
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:43.320
<v Speaker 4>We already have a pain of network where there are

566
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:48.719
<v Speaker 4>different professionals and they can use each other going forward.

567
00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:52.760
<v Speaker 4>So I brought the concept and bring it to life.

568
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:57.679
<v Speaker 4>I've booked the lounge and making sure that when they

569
00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:02.239
<v Speaker 4>are relaxed and seated, the introduction must be allowed. That

570
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:05.400
<v Speaker 4>you stand up with them. I can introduce yourself for

571
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:08.079
<v Speaker 4>what do you do, just so we know. Please bring

572
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:12.159
<v Speaker 4>your business card with be on the registered book and

573
00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:14.960
<v Speaker 4>make sure that you are known for what you are

574
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:18.480
<v Speaker 4>doing for a living, just so I can come to

575
00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:21.800
<v Speaker 4>you when I need service, when I need you to

576
00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:27.760
<v Speaker 4>help me. And then well, some of the gens came

577
00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:31.119
<v Speaker 4>back to me to thank me for the setup because

578
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:37.199
<v Speaker 4>they managed to find signages with some of the golfers. Evertonia,

579
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:40.280
<v Speaker 4>I can tell you we never look back. M So

580
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<v Speaker 4>there we go in the field.

581
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<v Speaker 2>That's that's one hundred percent what I would envision as well,

582
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:51.440
<v Speaker 2>to say, you know, when one does a golf day

583
00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:54.679
<v Speaker 2>like like like I said earlier, you're bringing people from

584
00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:59.159
<v Speaker 2>different backgrounds, different professions and for them to be in

585
00:40:59.320 --> 00:40:59.800
<v Speaker 2>one room.

586
00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:00.599
<v Speaker 3>You're not just.

587
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Exploiting opportunities on your own bag. You're also creating opportunities

588
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:10.360
<v Speaker 2>for other professionals from different backgrounds. So there's something that

589
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:14.719
<v Speaker 2>you shared in relation to business, one of your philosophies

590
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:17.639
<v Speaker 2>where you say that they develop a vision of the

591
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:20.039
<v Speaker 2>good life, device a plan for how to attain it,

592
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:23.840
<v Speaker 2>go for it and check the progress along the way. Now,

593
00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:27.239
<v Speaker 2>I would like to ask you particularly, and it would

594
00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:31.599
<v Speaker 2>go around playing golf as well as planning and executing

595
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:38.679
<v Speaker 2>proper golf day from your and would you say that

596
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:41.760
<v Speaker 2>the whole concept of planning and execution when it comes

597
00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:45.559
<v Speaker 2>to a round of golf mirrors that philosophy that you

598
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:48.280
<v Speaker 2>have in your business.

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00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:59.800
<v Speaker 4>Yes, in actual fact, that is very personal because every

600
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:05.159
<v Speaker 4>men and women are there the are capable of becoming

601
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:13.880
<v Speaker 4>the business owners. Remember, employee has a potential to become employer,

602
00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:20.519
<v Speaker 4>you know, because now the concept and the previous concept

603
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:25.800
<v Speaker 4>has always been I become an employee waiting to get pension.

604
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:32.079
<v Speaker 4>So that should come to an end where an employee

605
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:38.679
<v Speaker 4>should put together exactly what they've accumulated experience wise to

606
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:43.400
<v Speaker 4>become employer. So by it's not doing, we will then

607
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:49.159
<v Speaker 4>be able to create as much opportunities as possible, including employment.

608
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:54.239
<v Speaker 4>HM and I always say to them that if you

609
00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:58.039
<v Speaker 4>want to thank me for what I had done for you,

610
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:02.679
<v Speaker 4>do not come to me. I think you rather look

611
00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:05.800
<v Speaker 4>for somebody who find themselves in the situation where you

612
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:09.280
<v Speaker 4>found yourself when I was helping you, to help that

613
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:12.119
<v Speaker 4>person because I saw the when we'll have actually broke

614
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:17.920
<v Speaker 4>the chain of this disadvantage and bring it to something better,

615
00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:22.239
<v Speaker 4>just so everyone can have the opportunity. But lastly, Tony,

616
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:27.039
<v Speaker 4>I told people that when it comes to legacy, it's

617
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:34.480
<v Speaker 4>never about the material tangible stuff. In my view, lega

618
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:39.039
<v Speaker 4>is when somebody can make a living out of your wisdom. Yeah,

619
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:45.239
<v Speaker 4>and that's how I've tried and accommodated everyone that gravitated

620
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:49.960
<v Speaker 4>towards benefiting from us. I said to them, I can

621
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:53.159
<v Speaker 4>only show you the ropes because I cannot afford to

622
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:58.599
<v Speaker 4>make you overnight success. But all I can do for

623
00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:02.559
<v Speaker 4>both of us is to perhaps give you my expertise

624
00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:06.199
<v Speaker 4>and share with you and show you and equip you

625
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:10.559
<v Speaker 4>and empower you and educate one another. Let be a

626
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:17.880
<v Speaker 4>continuous professional development. Let's develop this together, and ultimately that's

627
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:21.840
<v Speaker 4>how we go back and check what we have planted.

628
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:25.480
<v Speaker 4>But I get wepping it up. I said to them,

629
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<v Speaker 4>when you eat fruits you don't throw away the seeds,

630
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<v Speaker 4>and that's residesly how you keep evolving. Yeah, I know.

631
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:40.639
<v Speaker 2>Such wisdom is needed in these times. And I like

632
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<v Speaker 2>the fact that you said it's not tangible stuff, but

633
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:47.639
<v Speaker 2>it's more about creating a legacy from the wisdom that

634
00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:49.800
<v Speaker 2>you have. Because if you can plant the seed, like

635
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:52.880
<v Speaker 2>you said, you don't throw away the seeds, rather plant

636
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:55.920
<v Speaker 2>it so that the next person can actually plow from

637
00:44:55.920 --> 00:45:00.000
<v Speaker 2>it and the cycle continues. I really, really, really really

638
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:02.760
<v Speaker 2>they do that. Then I appreciate you sharing that with us,

639
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:06.400
<v Speaker 2>because often in life we are of the ideology to

640
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:11.400
<v Speaker 2>say that just because I do not have tangible resources

641
00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:15.679
<v Speaker 2>to establish a business, or whatever efforts that I make

642
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:19.800
<v Speaker 2>will will go to no fruition. So you've planted a

643
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:24.119
<v Speaker 2>seat amongst myself and my colleagues, as well as all

644
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:28.760
<v Speaker 2>the audiences that's listening to say, whenever, whenever you've you've

645
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:31.639
<v Speaker 2>got a seed in mind and you've already exhausted it,

646
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:35.159
<v Speaker 2>or you've eat in the fruit of that seed, rather

647
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:37.519
<v Speaker 2>plant it so that the next person can can actually

648
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:41.400
<v Speaker 2>applow it. Just to move on to something a bit

649
00:45:41.440 --> 00:45:45.840
<v Speaker 2>more relaxed, master mateka, I think this is something that

650
00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:51.440
<v Speaker 2>will definitely disrupt that well. It has costed disruption in

651
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:55.320
<v Speaker 2>the professional golfing space. And since it's coming here in

652
00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:58.000
<v Speaker 2>South Africa, I actually want to get your views on

653
00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:03.559
<v Speaker 2>it to say, when you look get leave golf, which

654
00:46:03.599 --> 00:46:06.079
<v Speaker 2>is the new in thing right now, and when you

655
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:11.280
<v Speaker 2>look at it from your professional investment, finance and sports background,

656
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:15.599
<v Speaker 2>what what what is your thought when it comes when

657
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:18.079
<v Speaker 2>it comes to the impact that it may have within

658
00:46:18.119 --> 00:46:19.079
<v Speaker 2>the entire country.

659
00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:25.159
<v Speaker 4>Look, thank you for the question, and this is just

660
00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:32.039
<v Speaker 4>my opinion. I remember one of the media personnel asked

661
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:39.079
<v Speaker 4>me and I said, golf, it's not sports, it's a

662
00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:46.760
<v Speaker 4>business because the economic impact that comes with this particular

663
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:55.320
<v Speaker 4>sports called golf. Actually it can somehow carry a village,

664
00:46:55.519 --> 00:47:01.079
<v Speaker 4>it can carry a GDP, it can contribute to our

665
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:08.239
<v Speaker 4>well being. And that's precisely where Live was, in my views,

666
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:14.840
<v Speaker 4>was designed to perhaps put together such a huge substantial

667
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:19.840
<v Speaker 4>amount of money to atpect good golfers, et cetera. Even

668
00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:23.760
<v Speaker 4>a so called average golfer will want to be the best.

669
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:27.119
<v Speaker 4>And you can only be fired by what is on

670
00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:32.760
<v Speaker 4>the table. And tell you today, none of the golfers

671
00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:38.639
<v Speaker 4>in the whole world with decline any offer, except for

672
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:41.960
<v Speaker 4>those who actually think they've made it already, but I'm

673
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:47.199
<v Speaker 4>talking about people who will want to perhaps get the

674
00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:52.800
<v Speaker 4>exposure so live coming to South Africa. I think it's

675
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:59.800
<v Speaker 4>a huge economic impact to our economy, the GDP, et cetera.

676
00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:03.800
<v Speaker 4>But at the second time, it's something that we've got

677
00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:09.760
<v Speaker 4>to learn exactly how professional cedit because it's amazing to

678
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:16.119
<v Speaker 4>any how as human beings all egg below human beings

679
00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:21.840
<v Speaker 4>in the world actually are given the similar opportunity by

680
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:28.360
<v Speaker 4>God two livings, eyes as sorry, hands, legs, two eyes,

681
00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:31.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, the same size of mind, et cetera. But

682
00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:36.639
<v Speaker 4>some are super super special. And he asked yourself that

683
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:41.280
<v Speaker 4>what actually distracted me from achieving this because we are

684
00:48:41.400 --> 00:48:44.719
<v Speaker 4>given similar amounts of time, which is twenty four hours?

685
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:47.880
<v Speaker 4>Am I playing with my time? Am I not investing

686
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:50.880
<v Speaker 4>my time in this thing? I mean you can go

687
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:55.320
<v Speaker 4>look for what these guys do. They practice daily. They

688
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:59.000
<v Speaker 4>took it as a profession and I don't know, why

689
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:02.360
<v Speaker 4>are we not getting mm hmmmmmmmm.

690
00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:04.760
<v Speaker 3>That's that's impactful.

691
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:08.000
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I mean from if if, if we

692
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:12.199
<v Speaker 2>take it uh back here to South Africa, Like you said,

693
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:15.679
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of money that's been invested in Live Golf,

694
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:19.800
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of professional golfers, even your average professional

695
00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:22.679
<v Speaker 2>golfers would kill to get that opportunity to be a

696
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.519
<v Speaker 2>part of those fifty four players on the field. Now,

697
00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:29.760
<v Speaker 2>if if we're talking about economy economic impact as a whole,

698
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:33.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, uh, we we're talking about as ames, we're

699
00:49:33.480 --> 00:49:39.159
<v Speaker 2>talking about unemployment and things of such nature. Do you

700
00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:44.559
<v Speaker 2>personally feel that leave golf comes with opportunities uh, that

701
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:50.920
<v Speaker 2>can enable or that can improve the current unemployment rate

702
00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:55.599
<v Speaker 2>or the current GDP. Like you said, Well, when it

703
00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:58.639
<v Speaker 2>comes to the South African business market.

704
00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:04.119
<v Speaker 4>You said, the conversation is more relexed. But now you

705
00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:10.559
<v Speaker 4>can carry me and I'm gonna say this anyway. Remember

706
00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:16.960
<v Speaker 4>let's count now we count informants, Tony. Yeah, how long

707
00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:21.159
<v Speaker 4>have we known that live is coming to South Africa?

708
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:27.519
<v Speaker 4>M M And then ask, yes, ask any ordinary business

709
00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:31.960
<v Speaker 4>person on what did they do to gravitate towards the

710
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:37.760
<v Speaker 4>opportunities that it comes with? Mhman, if you're doing nothing,

711
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:40.280
<v Speaker 4>you've got yourself to blame. There's so much that you

712
00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:43.119
<v Speaker 4>can do. That's why I'm saying in a group of girls,

713
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:48.400
<v Speaker 4>there's always incredible men and eighty clunds. So we will

714
00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:51.880
<v Speaker 4>talk and talk until live comes and go and there

715
00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:59.519
<v Speaker 4>will be a fewer wether prepared individuals to perhaps gain

716
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:01.880
<v Speaker 4>out of it. And we were still watching them from

717
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:05.719
<v Speaker 4>the fence, and that is their problem. All we know,

718
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:08.840
<v Speaker 4>and you said, i' mna say it. All we know

719
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:13.760
<v Speaker 4>is to bend the tire and ask what is inform me.

720
00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:15.440
<v Speaker 4>We are known for that.

721
00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:18.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we are very true.

722
00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:22.239
<v Speaker 4>Because at the moment we were supposed to be gathering

723
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:25.639
<v Speaker 4>in the lecture room to find out what is our

724
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:29.800
<v Speaker 4>creativity taking out of this? What are we doing. Do

725
00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:33.079
<v Speaker 4>we have a retail shop to actually design some very

726
00:51:33.159 --> 00:51:37.559
<v Speaker 4>nice sneakers for these boys, some actually heads, you know,

727
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:43.320
<v Speaker 4>something to entice you know, everyone wants to sell alcohol.

728
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:45.159
<v Speaker 4>That's precisely how far we can go.

729
00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fully, I fully agree with you, And like you said,

730
00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:56.360
<v Speaker 2>we've had ample time to actually cut apply our thoughts

731
00:51:56.679 --> 00:51:59.920
<v Speaker 2>around how we can actually take advantage of li've got

732
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:04.280
<v Speaker 2>now just to move away from leave golf that magic.

733
00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:08.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm certain that as a golfer you've noticed a rise

734
00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:13.199
<v Speaker 2>in golf simulators across the world, and there's even professional

735
00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:17.320
<v Speaker 2>competition that's been held where people don't really have to

736
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:20.000
<v Speaker 2>go to a golf course and they just play on

737
00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:24.519
<v Speaker 2>these simulators. Do you do you think that something like

738
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:26.880
<v Speaker 2>that would really work in South Africa or do you

739
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:31.039
<v Speaker 2>think it something that's that would be appealing to our

740
00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:33.199
<v Speaker 2>so called social golfers here in South Africa.

741
00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:40.960
<v Speaker 4>Well, in my views, again, I think some of these

742
00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:48.559
<v Speaker 4>UH designed are made specifically to sort of accommodate an

743
00:52:48.559 --> 00:52:52.079
<v Speaker 4>avoidance of weather kind of a situation if it's raining

744
00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:55.519
<v Speaker 4>and hold that in the golf and something that can

745
00:52:55.760 --> 00:53:02.800
<v Speaker 4>assist to satisfy the passion will will do it. But

746
00:53:03.320 --> 00:53:06.519
<v Speaker 4>I can tell you nothing that looks like golf will

747
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:14.679
<v Speaker 4>replace golf on the course. And that's my philosope. Yeah,

748
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:18.039
<v Speaker 4>I have all the gudgets. I can be honest with you.

749
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:21.800
<v Speaker 4>If it's being on the range, it's still not enough.

750
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:24.639
<v Speaker 4>I need to tee off. Yeah, I want to see

751
00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:27.159
<v Speaker 4>where that ball lengds and it has to be on

752
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:30.480
<v Speaker 4>the fairway and then I have to hit my shot,

753
00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:33.920
<v Speaker 4>whether around the green or on the green, put it

754
00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:38.559
<v Speaker 4>through and that's my fulfillment. But any other thing can

755
00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:40.880
<v Speaker 4>really give me the same satisfaction.

756
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I like your answer, it's very honest. Then I agree

757
00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:50.639
<v Speaker 2>with it one hundred percent. Now with that being said,

758
00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:53.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we are heading towards the end of our episode.

759
00:53:53.800 --> 00:53:55.000
<v Speaker 3>I just want to find out from you.

760
00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:59.159
<v Speaker 2>You mentioned that you've played give or take around fifteen

761
00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:03.960
<v Speaker 2>years now already. I would presume that one of the

762
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:06.719
<v Speaker 2>west moments of the moonish moments you've had on the

763
00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:09.719
<v Speaker 2>golf course was your first time on the golf course

764
00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:14.960
<v Speaker 2>wearing formal shoes and yeah, you just had a rough day.

765
00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:16.400
<v Speaker 4>But I want to.

766
00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:19.079
<v Speaker 2>Find out your highlights on the golf course in Mata

767
00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:23.360
<v Speaker 2>because I've so much, I've so often had people celebrating

768
00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:27.239
<v Speaker 2>their successes on the golf course, especially social golf has

769
00:54:27.239 --> 00:54:29.239
<v Speaker 2>to say this and I've had three hole in ones,

770
00:54:29.679 --> 00:54:33.920
<v Speaker 2>or I've had the opportunity to win our schools annual

771
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:38.639
<v Speaker 2>competition for five consecutive years. So I want to find

772
00:54:38.639 --> 00:54:40.800
<v Speaker 2>out from your side to say, what would you say

773
00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:43.880
<v Speaker 2>are your highlights when it comes to this lovely spot,

774
00:54:44.440 --> 00:54:48.079
<v Speaker 2>and apart from your first day on the golf course,

775
00:54:48.320 --> 00:54:51.519
<v Speaker 2>what is the one momish moment that you'd like to

776
00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:52.920
<v Speaker 2>share with our audience.

777
00:54:54.480 --> 00:55:05.000
<v Speaker 4>The moment like as in embalancing myself, Yes, sir, oh no,

778
00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:14.239
<v Speaker 4>damn okay, Look, the playing on formal shoes was one

779
00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:18.199
<v Speaker 4>of those. But you know, my friend is so kind.

780
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:23.639
<v Speaker 4>He actually accomplicated me. And I thought to myself, as

781
00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:28.599
<v Speaker 4>I get to learn that, you know, golf is actually

782
00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:34.440
<v Speaker 4>made of a company that you keep more than just

783
00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:40.039
<v Speaker 4>a game itself. And eight out of ten times people

784
00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:42.480
<v Speaker 4>that then burras me are people that I don't know.

785
00:55:43.559 --> 00:55:51.199
<v Speaker 4>Some will have a conversation that is somehow irritating as

786
00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:55.559
<v Speaker 4>you play, and it can get into you. I'm one

787
00:55:55.639 --> 00:56:00.480
<v Speaker 4>person that don't hesitate to call it to you out

788
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:07.280
<v Speaker 4>if something like that happened. And I can't be really specific,

789
00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:09.639
<v Speaker 4>but I remember pulling out.

790
00:56:11.400 --> 00:56:11.800
<v Speaker 3>On the.

791
00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:19.480
<v Speaker 4>I think it was it was the twelve hold, because

792
00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:22.639
<v Speaker 4>we spread from the back nine with the gentleman and

793
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:25.480
<v Speaker 4>the other one happened to be very famous DJ that

794
00:56:25.639 --> 00:56:30.519
<v Speaker 4>we're playing golf with. And the other gentleman actually, you know,

795
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:34.519
<v Speaker 4>he kept on saying stuff, you know, and that thrown

796
00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:39.599
<v Speaker 4>me off because the conversation on its own actually start

797
00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:43.039
<v Speaker 4>to stuck into your after thoughts, and as you play,

798
00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:48.400
<v Speaker 4>you always try and process exactly what you've received from

799
00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:53.800
<v Speaker 4>this gentleman. And at some point they were both giving

800
00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:58.039
<v Speaker 4>each other parts and I was very close to the whole,

801
00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:01.320
<v Speaker 4>but I decided let me started because it's not like

802
00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:05.079
<v Speaker 4>I'm expecting them to just do their gimme or stuff

803
00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:10.079
<v Speaker 4>like that. And then the ju said no, but Chilus,

804
00:57:10.199 --> 00:57:12.519
<v Speaker 4>you can take that one and the other one said no,

805
00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:17.079
<v Speaker 4>not the way he passed. This guy might not think

806
00:57:17.199 --> 00:57:20.039
<v Speaker 4>the ball, you know what I said, and the Antonio

807
00:57:20.119 --> 00:57:22.719
<v Speaker 4>must be with you. I love at that moment, but

808
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:25.840
<v Speaker 4>I was very angry. I said to him, m hm,

809
00:57:26.960 --> 00:57:30.480
<v Speaker 4>you know what, I think I have important things to do.

810
00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:33.039
<v Speaker 4>I'll pick up the ball. I don't care what I

811
00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:36.440
<v Speaker 4>paid seven hundred and fifty to play. You can take it.

812
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:40.159
<v Speaker 4>I would rather go look for the guys that are

813
00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:44.239
<v Speaker 4>willing to play golf with me and trust me. The

814
00:57:44.360 --> 00:57:47.840
<v Speaker 4>guy even had the audacity to actually tell other people

815
00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:50.840
<v Speaker 4>on the group that I'm Agino pulled out what we're

816
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:54.480
<v Speaker 4>playing as if I'm a bad person. But I felt

817
00:57:54.599 --> 00:57:58.719
<v Speaker 4>like I don't have the capacity to continue if we're

818
00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:02.719
<v Speaker 4>going to be and then for me, that's embarrassing. One

819
00:58:03.360 --> 00:58:09.039
<v Speaker 4>and two is laughable, but three, at least play with

820
00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:13.719
<v Speaker 4>people that have something called the respect to each other.

821
00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:16.360
<v Speaker 4>I've looked at it that way.

822
00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Now one hundred percent agree with you. Respect it of

823
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:27.360
<v Speaker 2>utmost importance, especially in a field or you know, in

824
00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:31.880
<v Speaker 2>an environment where everybody, everybody is deemed to be a

825
00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:36.559
<v Speaker 2>gentleman and everybody is deemed to be respectable in their

826
00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:37.280
<v Speaker 2>own sense.

827
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:40.119
<v Speaker 3>So I really really agree with you on that one.

828
00:58:42.159 --> 00:58:45.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so it's more like a grilliance than just the

829
00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:53.400
<v Speaker 4>lashable it bally like it haunted me for a very

830
00:58:53.519 --> 00:58:56.880
<v Speaker 4>long time. And but what the gentlemen wanted to achieve

831
00:58:57.119 --> 00:58:57.920
<v Speaker 4>out of this but.

832
00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:04.639
<v Speaker 2>Still not getting answers mm hmmm. And then, uh, mister,

833
00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:09.039
<v Speaker 2>just before I let you go, I mean, I would

834
00:59:09.119 --> 00:59:14.599
<v Speaker 2>really really like for our audience to be able to

835
00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:18.880
<v Speaker 2>reach you as well when it comes to business related matters.

836
00:59:19.239 --> 00:59:24.159
<v Speaker 2>Where exactly can they reach you? And then whilst sharing that,

837
00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:29.639
<v Speaker 2>may you also share some ways of inspiration or ways

838
00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:34.719
<v Speaker 2>of encouragement to people who were also intimidated by golf,

839
00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:37.360
<v Speaker 2>just like yourself, to say, how do they get into

840
00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:40.719
<v Speaker 2>the game and what would be the best approach.

841
00:59:41.880 --> 00:59:45.559
<v Speaker 3>As your opinion, Well.

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<v Speaker 4>I said this before, and I've always been saying that.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm.

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<v Speaker 4>Every man's the biggest enemy is their thoughts. And when

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<v Speaker 4>I say men, I mean men and women. So whatever

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<v Speaker 4>you think it's impossible, it's always impossible because of your belief.

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<v Speaker 4>Just like when you create that negative thought, you start

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<v Speaker 4>to have a fear, and that fear ultimately graduate becomes

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<v Speaker 4>an admere. It wakes you up and you're just you're

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<v Speaker 4>just having very very bad dreams. So happiness is very

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<v Speaker 4>important because a happy person. I think you really need

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<v Speaker 4>to possition yourself to a point where you must decide

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<v Speaker 4>two ways of life. There's a noise which needs attention.

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<v Speaker 4>You must decide whether you want to listen to it

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<v Speaker 4>or you want to continue with the journey, because noise

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<v Speaker 4>will delay you to your journey, but ignoredge will give

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<v Speaker 4>you the wisdom to kre on with your journey. It

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<v Speaker 4>is always the case that a lot of people dreams

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<v Speaker 4>actually die before they realized those dreams because they had

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<v Speaker 4>to invite a second opinion, even if it's a stranger.

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<v Speaker 4>So one way or the add you've got yourself to

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<v Speaker 4>blame if you don't ensure that your dream is put

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<v Speaker 4>it into practice and realize that dream. You have to

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<v Speaker 4>pursue your dreams. I believe there's a lot of potential

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<v Speaker 4>businessmen and women who are held up by a fear,

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<v Speaker 4>so they need to concare.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and where can people actually reach out or how

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<v Speaker 2>can people reach out to NBI, even institutions that are

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<v Speaker 2>currently listening to the podcast, how do they reach out

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<v Speaker 2>to you.

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<v Speaker 4>NBI is based in Waterfall at the Waterfall Head Office,

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<v Speaker 4>just behind the World of Golf between wood Meat and

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<v Speaker 4>Waterfall and we are at fifty four Maxwell Drive. That's

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<v Speaker 4>as if somebody wants to have a work in visits,

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<v Speaker 4>We've always had a stalite office in Cape Town because

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<v Speaker 4>the obviously one not tooth lines that we're trying to

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<v Speaker 4>also grow with them. And otherwise you go to our

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<v Speaker 4>website www dot Matzek Investment, which is singular investment dot

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<v Speaker 4>and some will obviously prefer to just go to info

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<v Speaker 4>at Matak Investment dot Matzek Investment and if they call,

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<v Speaker 4>then they can reach out on zero one zero double

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<v Speaker 4>zero five five nine four two and that's our office line.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome stuff, Awesome stuffs. Mataka are really really up appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>your insights and your inputs into today's conversation, and I

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<v Speaker 2>believe that both myself and our audience have really really

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<v Speaker 2>learned a lot. Like if anything that stood out for

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<v Speaker 2>me throughout this conversation is when you spoke about wisdom

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<v Speaker 2>and the seat, and I think that's something that.

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<v Speaker 3>Ignites life into people.

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<v Speaker 2>Here in such ways ignites life into people because many,

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<v Speaker 2>many times, like I said, we fail to understand how

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<v Speaker 2>important it is to share what we know with the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the world, or to share what works with

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the world, because by so doing we're

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<v Speaker 2>breaking chains of disadvantaged mindsets. So I really really appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>all the inputs and having a chat with you today.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a brisk and I hope and I look

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<v Speaker 2>forward to greater things from MBI and I hope to

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<v Speaker 2>one day meet you on the golf course and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>have a round of golf with you.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much, Tony, thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 4>I really appreciate the time and plad that you actually

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<v Speaker 4>partial in the same sentiments and hopefully we will catch

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<v Speaker 4>up again.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you said, awesome stuff, awesome stuff. So, ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 2>there we have it. That's that day, Machilo Nick Mateka,

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<v Speaker 2>who is the founder and director of my take a

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<v Speaker 2>business investment. So, ladies and gentlemen, we head up plus today.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know how I operate. I always say that

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<v Speaker 2>if you're waking on Thursday, then there's something wrong. Because

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<v Speaker 2>we got to play golf. Ladies and gentlemen, golf is

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<v Speaker 2>life and life is golf. You cannot separate the two.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're waking on Friday, then we definitely need

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<v Speaker 2>to sit down you and I to discuss how to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that you are out there on the golf course.

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<v Speaker 2>If anything I can tell you is that all opportunities

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<v Speaker 2>are available on the golf course. If you want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk science, there are scientists on the golf course. Want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk medicine, there's medical doctors or medical professionals on

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<v Speaker 2>the golf course. If you want to talk entertainment, there

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<v Speaker 2>are entertainers on the golf course. So we have been said,

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<v Speaker 2>ladies and gentlemen, I shall sign out right now. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the one and only twenty tone, the magician, the ball

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<v Speaker 2>with a lot of players, and yes this is balls

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<v Speaker 2>and teas. Please make sure that you follow us on

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<v Speaker 2>our social media pages and make sure that you catch

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<v Speaker 2>up with all the episodes that you missed if it

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<v Speaker 2>is your first time listening to us. But nonetheless, everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>is there six pm you will catch us. We are

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<v Speaker 2>on Spotify, we are on Apple Podcasts, and we are

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<v Speaker 2>on our own platform www. Dot Bosantis dot Golf.

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<v Speaker 3>Ladies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 2>The one and only Tony Tone signing it out, thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>see you again next week.

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<v Speaker 3>I love you guys,
