Speaker 1: H Welcome to the typical slept clad chest where we
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Speaker 5: Guys.
Speaker 2: It's doing it again.
Speaker 4: I hit stop on the I hit stop and it
Speaker 4: just continues to keep playing, over and over again.
Speaker 2: Hopefully that doesn't do that.
Speaker 4: So guys, today I have my really good Nathan Sizzek.
Speaker 4: I'm going to bring him up in a second. I
Speaker 4: just want to make sure the thing isn't playing over
Speaker 4: and over again. I don't know why it does that.
Speaker 4: It's it's a really weird form of targeting, but anyway,
Speaker 4: fan favorite Nathan Sizzek returns to Night to unpack his
Speaker 4: my Lab experiences and how to escape the simulation. We're
Speaker 4: going to talk about black ops programs, target individual tactic
Speaker 4: to be two K telepathic interfaces. We'll dig into memory, manipulation,
Speaker 4: handler dynamics, psychic ops, techt signatures, and how experiencers reclaim
Speaker 4: their sovereignty. And with all that said, I'd like to
Speaker 4: give him a big, warm welcome back to the show. Nate,
Speaker 4: thanks so much for coming back on Man, it's good
Speaker 4: to see you.
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 3: Thank you, Rob, It's great to be back in the
Speaker 3: hot seat again. Load everybody out there, so apologize everybody.
Speaker 3: I have sat tonight before I start so that there's
Speaker 3: no up, there's no hard feelings afterwards.
Speaker 2: So how's it? How are you well?
Speaker 4: It's funny like every time I try to play that intro,
Speaker 4: It'll like if I play the one where the thing explodes,
Speaker 4: it'll play over and over again. And if I play
Speaker 4: the music, it'll play over and over again. It doesn't
Speaker 4: matter what I do. It just it's like it's like
Speaker 4: a weird targeting thing with stream Yard, like it just
Speaker 4: you know. I so sometimes I'll try to do it
Speaker 4: like like it's like, you know, it never can go smoothly,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's like might it always
Speaker 4: wants to make me look like an idiot, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't is.
Speaker 3: It happening with your other when you use other platforms?
Speaker 3: Besides that, I.
Speaker 2: Haven't tried any other platform. But I'm about to leave
Speaker 2: stream Yard.
Speaker 4: But they just gave me a credit for a month
Speaker 4: because I when I was doing the show with Kohli,
Speaker 4: I paid for two months, you know, I paid for
Speaker 4: two accounts on accident or not on accident.
Speaker 2: We thought we were starting one or whatever. And then
Speaker 2: I told stream Yard that's they just credit me with
Speaker 2: them month. So I was like, well, I might as
Speaker 2: well stay with them for a month if they're gonna
Speaker 2: give me a free month, you know.
Speaker 4: So yeah, but you know, things are good man, you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, there's a lot of drama in
Speaker 4: the community right now as always, you know, I mean,
Speaker 4: people are going back and forth about this person and
Speaker 4: that person, and like, you know, to me, it's just tiring. Man.
Speaker 2: Like, honestly, I wish we could all get along.
Speaker 4: I mean, I know that's easier said than done, but
Speaker 4: I just wish people, you know, for the benefit of humanity,
Speaker 4: would be able to get along, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think if there was, if we
Speaker 3: could get along, there wouldn't be anything to talk about.
Speaker 3: That's a good frankly, because this whole thing goes along
Speaker 3: with I mean, everything that we deal with. They if
Speaker 3: there's an outside for us attempting to create problems. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just, you know, it's just the way it is.
Speaker 2: I try to, you know, I try to be cordial
Speaker 2: and cool with everybody, you know, like I'm not. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know if that makes sense.
Speaker 3: You know, Well, it's easier to do that because you
Speaker 3: have a podcast platform that they need you. So even
Speaker 3: the people that don't like you will pretend to like you.
Speaker 3: But if you don't have anything to offer just yourself,
Speaker 3: then you know, you'll find that there's people that like
Speaker 3: you for you know, for all the good reasons, and
Speaker 3: then there's people that just forever reason don't like you,
Speaker 3: and they don't have a reason for it, they just
Speaker 3: have a bad thing about you. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's where you can go with you what's
Speaker 2: going on?
Speaker 3: Oh well, I'm just trying to get my life back
Speaker 3: in order, and so I guess for fun we can
Speaker 3: talk a little bit about some of the bizarre and
Speaker 3: of the targeting that takes place. So, okay, we're gonna
Speaker 3: talk about medical co intel pro real quick. We'll get
Speaker 3: started with that. Are you familiar with Project Nightingale? No,
Speaker 3: The Project Nightingale is a medical records I guess. It's
Speaker 3: a huge record system administered by big Tech and it
Speaker 3: was I don't know how many years ago it was done.
Speaker 3: It was probably done about ten years ago. And I
Speaker 3: think the foundation of it came from because there was
Speaker 3: prior to that, there was a system that insurance companies
Speaker 3: could look up any patient that had a claim and
Speaker 3: the purpose of it was was to deny claims because
Speaker 3: in this in the United States, we had pre existing conditions.
Speaker 3: So for those in other countries who weren't familiar with that.
Speaker 3: If you had anything wrong with you that could be
Speaker 3: remotely related to the claim that you have, and if
Speaker 3: they could prove that you had it prior to buying
Speaker 3: the insurance, then you had a pre existing condition. So
Speaker 3: what the insurance companies would do is they would go
Speaker 3: into a database that was relatively secrets for AI. So
Speaker 3: I don't know how it was structured, but I do
Speaker 3: know that it was very, very thorough, and they would
Speaker 3: go into it and dig through your past and all
Speaker 3: the way back to the you know, to the womb
Speaker 3: if they could to find any reason just to deny
Speaker 3: your claim. So in the process of modernizing medical records,
Speaker 3: they came up with Project Nightingale. Now, because of Hippolaw's right,
Speaker 3: you can't you can't have your doctor transmit records seamlessly.
Speaker 3: You have to take everything the hard way. You got
Speaker 3: to bring it with you, you got to sign paperwork.
Speaker 3: It's all due to Hippo, which is about privacy. But
Speaker 3: when it comes to the areas that you really need
Speaker 3: to lib see, that's really from the insurance companies because
Speaker 3: they're trying to deny your claim. So Project Nightingale is
Speaker 3: a huge database of all of the records of everyone
Speaker 3: in the United States. It's all their medical history. So
Speaker 3: but the doctors don't have access to the Project Nightingale.
Speaker 3: So it may have a different name now, but the
Speaker 3: initial creation was called Project Nightingale and Big Tech administers it.
Speaker 3: And so what happened is anyway, just to make a
Speaker 3: long story short, when I was talking with the V
Speaker 3: two K handlers and I was getting that sixteen hour
Speaker 3: day harassment. Sometimes most of the time it was sixteen
Speaker 3: hours a day, but sometimes I would get a bit
Speaker 3: of a break. And this went on for years and
Speaker 3: it reached a peak level. During the peak level, I
Speaker 3: had the handler telling me to Sun to the Blue
Speaker 3: One night, he said, look up Project night and he said,
Speaker 3: you're in it. So I looked it up and it
Speaker 3: was medical records. And anyway, recently, actually it started last year.
Speaker 3: I was on your podcast. It was it was that podcast.
Speaker 3: Who we did it was it was Ida, it was
Speaker 3: Susan Long, it was our chem it was Catherine is
Speaker 3: significant other I think Matthew Morning and only who else
Speaker 3: was there? But I got kicked off about halfway through.
Speaker 3: If you remember, it was like a group podcast we did,
Speaker 3: so I talked about I made a joke about trans
Speaker 3: hormones because I was having trouble on the stop and
Speaker 3: I said, hey, you know, if I can't get testoster
Speaker 3: and prescribe through the normal way and they do the
Speaker 3: medical co intel pro, which I was having problems with
Speaker 3: what appeared to be that hard to say, But I
Speaker 3: was going to go to a trans doctor. And I
Speaker 3: made a joke about it, right, so because they have
Speaker 3: a large staff that can get a medical you know,
Speaker 3: things approved through insurance companies instead of going through the
Speaker 3: hard way where you on your own.
Speaker 2: And I made that joke.
Speaker 3: I made a comment about it, and lo and behold,
Speaker 3: I had to go to that doctor. But it's a
Speaker 3: doctor that does the train stuff is another doctor. It's
Speaker 3: a satellite doctor in the practice. They're actually in different offices.
Speaker 3: I asked about it, and anyway, it's a regular doctor's practice.
Speaker 3: But I go in there and the first thing they
Speaker 3: say to me, they start going through my medical history
Speaker 3: and they started asking me my prescriptions and there was
Speaker 3: a drug in there that I didn't recognize, and I said,
Speaker 3: and they asked me if I was still taking it,
Speaker 3: and I said, well, no, I haven't. An't think I've
Speaker 3: ever taken out what is it? And they said it's
Speaker 3: for prostatecture. It's a chemical castration drug, and it's also
Speaker 3: used for people who are transitioning from male to female.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, no, I don't know why that's
Speaker 3: in there. And I got to thinking, you know, it
Speaker 3: was kind of convenient because I just talked about it,
Speaker 3: made a joke about it, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: this drug appears in my medical records. Right.
Speaker 2: So I didn't think.
Speaker 3: Anything of it. Immediate fact, I had a hunch that
Speaker 3: they were somebody was messing with me as usual, but
Speaker 3: it was just a one off thing and I figured,
Speaker 3: you know, whatever, So I didn't make a big deal
Speaker 3: about it. I just made a note of it. Anyway.
Speaker 3: Just recently, I did a podcast on March fourth Productions. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mentioned I'm sorry, what her like? Yeah, And so
Speaker 3: we did a really good podcast and I happened to
Speaker 3: bring up the trans issue. I forget exactly what it
Speaker 3: was like, I was talking about people's belief systems overreact.
Speaker 3: I don't remember specifically how it came out. It may
Speaker 3: have also come up about you know, how my labs
Speaker 3: are given generous for you and they alter their personalities
Speaker 3: with a you know, the altars and so forth. So
Speaker 3: I brought it up in some form of fashion, and
Speaker 3: like less than two weeks later, I had to go
Speaker 3: to a sinus doctor because that had a really horrible
Speaker 3: sinus affection for about two months.
Speaker 2: And I go in.
Speaker 3: I hadn't seen this doctor a couple of years, so
Speaker 3: they had to go through my medical history and they
Speaker 3: and we were going through, they gave me a tablet.
Speaker 3: I'm going through the tablet to check off to let
Speaker 3: them know if I'm still on these medications or if
Speaker 3: there's any new ones. And lo and behold, there was
Speaker 3: an estrogen prescription in my file right. So you know,
Speaker 3: as soon as I saw that, I'm like, okay, I
Speaker 3: know what this is. They're going into my medical records
Speaker 3: and anytime I bring this up, they're going to put
Speaker 3: some type of transgendered hormone care prescription in my prescription history.
Speaker 3: So you know, I asked, I asked the physician's assistant.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, how does this happen? Because I've
Speaker 3: never taken any of these drugs. I haven't had prostate cancer,
Speaker 3: I'm not transitioning, so why is it in here? And
Speaker 3: she goes, I don't know, there's no other way for
Speaker 3: it to get in there unless you were prescribed it.
Speaker 3: I've you know so, and I said, you know what,
Speaker 3: I said, maybe somebody in the government is trying to
Speaker 3: ease me into being traned. Just kind of left that
Speaker 3: like a joke, because it really is. And this is
Speaker 3: the kind of thing that you have to deal with
Speaker 3: at times. It's not just the heavy hardcore targeting stuff
Speaker 3: where they suppress you from getting employed. You know, they
Speaker 3: they'll prevent you from getting necessary medical services. They will
Speaker 3: they will do a lot of things. They'll hit you
Speaker 3: a directed energy, they'll turn people against you, you have
Speaker 3: gang stock, and there's lots of things they can do.
Speaker 3: They get into your computer, put sound effects on your phone.
Speaker 3: But this one, this is definitely one of those unique
Speaker 3: ones where they just you know, they let you know
Speaker 3: that they're watching you and everything that you do. And
Speaker 3: even if you block them psionically, even if you take
Speaker 3: you've renigged on those contracts that give them consent to
Speaker 3: do this crap to you, and you start taking your
Speaker 3: life back, you know, progressively, over time, they still will
Speaker 3: give you reminders that they're there. And that was just
Speaker 3: one of those things that I figure to be worth
Speaker 3: bringing up. So for those people that are seeing these
Speaker 3: little strange occurrences in their life and they know they're
Speaker 3: being targeted, you know, keep in mind that they cover
Speaker 3: cases from big to small, so even something like that,
Speaker 3: and it's all part of psychological and emotional warfare.
Speaker 4: A lot of people are probably going through that. I
Speaker 4: guarantee you. I bet you a lot of people are.
Speaker 4: You know, a lot of the things you just said
Speaker 4: people are experiencing, you.
Speaker 3: Know, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's become a more common you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if that people are having their
Speaker 3: medical records tampered with like that. I mean, it's more.
Speaker 4: California Girl, California girl, and Rubble made a joke to you,
Speaker 4: she said, Nathan with the lipstick and wig, because he
Speaker 4: was joking.
Speaker 3: I'd be a really ugly woman, you know.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: Actually, I've had to take this job because I'm in
Speaker 3: between work and I've been suppressed. So I'm waiting to
Speaker 3: start a regular job and I'm doing the gig job.
Speaker 3: We're going to have to deliver food and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: And I pulled into this housing project and all these
Speaker 3: kids are like blocking the street and I had to
Speaker 3: had to wait for them to move, and it took
Speaker 3: like a couple of minutes. So finally I had to
Speaker 3: tell them one of your neighbors is hungry. I got
Speaker 3: to get him their food. Can I please get by?
Speaker 3: And I think this little girl said, are you a
Speaker 3: girl or a boy?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: So when I made the delivery, I told the woman
Speaker 3: about it and she laughed and she goes, that's just
Speaker 3: so wrong, And I said, I said, well, they're watching
Speaker 3: too much TV.
Speaker 2: And it's all they hear, you know, trans that's trans that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's in their mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, to get it in school. I mean, it's stuff
Speaker 3: that I had never had to deal with when I
Speaker 3: was a kid, and it's really too much to have
Speaker 3: on your plate when you're only six five six years
Speaker 3: old and you're you know, you're just trying to have
Speaker 3: a just trying to be a child. You don't need
Speaker 3: to hear all this stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So anyway, Project Nightingale is monitored by the my Lab handlers,
Speaker 3: so all of your medical records, they know what's going
Speaker 3: on with you in various different ways, and they can
Speaker 3: monitor your physiology and your your thoughts and so forth,
Speaker 3: and they can literally sit in the doctor's office with
Speaker 3: you technically looking through your eyes and hearing through your ears.
Speaker 3: But they also monitor you on the other end with
Speaker 3: this project Nightingale, which is a huge database. So just
Speaker 3: to keep that in mind. So let's get down some
Speaker 3: other stuff. Well, let's see what else can we talk
Speaker 3: about here. I don't know, is there anything specific, Rob
Speaker 3: you want to get into. First?
Speaker 4: We were going to talk about escaping the simulation, you
Speaker 4: know a little bit like you know, yeah, a little
Speaker 4: bit right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well let's get into Let's let's kind of ease
Speaker 3: our way into that. So all right, we have a community.
Speaker 3: I'd like to talk about where the where I see
Speaker 3: the disclosure going right now, where the problems are. And
Speaker 3: you know, when I got into this community, I I
Speaker 3: kind of came into it an unusual way. I didn't
Speaker 3: go through it through social media groups. That kind of
Speaker 3: popped up when your podcast drop and you allowed me
Speaker 3: to speak, and I had no idea what I was
Speaker 3: really involved with. I didn't know it was a my
Speaker 3: lab at the time. But what I found is as
Speaker 3: I talked and as I began to tell my story,
Speaker 3: a lot of was pretty dark. And I began to
Speaker 3: grow a stigma. And the stigma essentially was, you know,
Speaker 3: don't put Nathan on your platform because you know, it's
Speaker 3: it's very dark stuff, it's my lab related stuff, and
Speaker 3: it'll bring problems. And what I found out was is that,
Speaker 3: you know, by talking to people who have been through
Speaker 3: this their self, I talked to researchers as well, is
Speaker 3: that my labs in general have a bad rap in
Speaker 3: the paranormal community. We're really the outcast. And this is
Speaker 3: the reason why the Full Disclosure Now conference is so important,
Speaker 3: because it's the first time that it's really been kind
Speaker 3: of like everyone's been brought together under one umbrella. And
Speaker 3: I hope that over time that it's going to help
Speaker 3: reduce the stigma. The problem is is that a lot
Speaker 3: of us have gone through a lot of trauma. We
Speaker 3: have alters, erratic behavior, we go through lots of targeting,
Speaker 3: and there's periods there's low points in our lives. So
Speaker 3: where somebody has an interaction with one of us at
Speaker 3: one of these low points, we can be hard to
Speaker 3: deal with and we can rub people the wrong way.
Speaker 3: We can fail to show up for podcasts, maybe we
Speaker 3: get hit with directed energy or targeting. Are deeply depressed.
Speaker 3: Anything can happen to somebody under these circumstances. So a
Speaker 3: lot of the people that I've tried to reach out
Speaker 3: to this part of the community, some of them have
Speaker 3: found out that it's very difficult because some of the
Speaker 3: people or frankly, they're disturbed, I mean they're being tortured,
Speaker 3: so you know, they don't quite understand that. So it
Speaker 3: gets put into the category of just ruling this mental
Speaker 3: illness and so forth. TIS are another big issue because
Speaker 3: if you haven't been directly in the and you're heavily
Speaker 3: targeted no matter what, you tend to be more of
Speaker 3: a disadvantage of handling the targeting than somebody that's been
Speaker 3: in the programs's who's more psychically adept. They have more,
Speaker 3: they have a greater skill set, they can hinqual with
Speaker 3: trauma better. But the TIS in the my labs are
Speaker 3: very much one and the same because a lot of
Speaker 3: the same style of targeting and networks that are being
Speaker 3: applied to my labs are also being used to target
Speaker 3: regular people for specific reasons, either research and development or
Speaker 3: for you know, for just stifling political dissent. So and
Speaker 3: there's there's a lot of that going on, especially now
Speaker 3: because we've were moving into a dictorial world government. It's
Speaker 3: going to be dictator actually run by AI, and the
Speaker 3: elites are going to be above the AI, essentially running
Speaker 3: the AI telling you what to do and how to
Speaker 3: police us. And the public is quickly acquiescing to this
Speaker 3: very very smoothly. In fact, there's very little resistance. Most
Speaker 3: people want convenience. They think that this is the you know,
Speaker 3: this is the way, the way to get to the future.
Speaker 3: It's a positive thing. They want to get the chip
Speaker 3: in the brain. They're enthusiastic about the vaccinations. They want
Speaker 3: to have big farmer regulating their body chemistry. And you know,
Speaker 3: people are paying the price for that and a lot
Speaker 3: of their other choices as well. But we're moving really
Speaker 3: in the wrong direction. And in the disclosure community, we
Speaker 3: have a lot of bs going on right now, and
Speaker 3: it's been going on for a while now. Wise Man
Speaker 3: I recently heard on a podcast. I'll leave his name
Speaker 3: out of it because I'm probably going to draw too
Speaker 3: much here to myself and I don't need to share
Speaker 3: it with anybody else, but he said that Corey Good
Speaker 3: set disclosure back about five years and you know, my
Speaker 3: estimation was. You know, Corey Goods setback disclosure fifteen years
Speaker 3: and I think it's closer to five now looking at
Speaker 3: it in retrospect. But he's not the only one. And
Speaker 3: Corey good was apparently in my lab that embellised himself,
Speaker 3: that took it upon himself to claim after the fact
Speaker 3: that everything that he wrote was fiction so he could
Speaker 3: sue people who we had money to And he was
Speaker 3: very disruptive in the community. And because people are so
Speaker 3: forgiving and so and so naive, especially the people using
Speaker 3: this as infro teament, and even the people in the
Speaker 3: community itself, they're willing to just let this go and
Speaker 3: act like it never happened. So for them, he's still
Speaker 3: a valid source of information. But you have other people
Speaker 3: that have moved into that position because this isn't just
Speaker 3: a one off thing. This is actually this whole mess
Speaker 3: that we're in is designed by these handler networks to
Speaker 3: reduce our effectiveness in being able to disclose the truth
Speaker 3: as to what's going on to these horrible programs, the
Speaker 3: human trafficking and everything else that my lab community talks about,
Speaker 3: the SRA, the alien joint military abductions, those types of things,
Speaker 3: and all of the horrible things that take place in
Speaker 3: that You know, it's very serious stuff, and I myself
Speaker 3: and many many other people around the world, it's perhaps
Speaker 3: millions of us. Those of us who have memories of
Speaker 3: these things and have the trauma bleed through into everyday
Speaker 3: lives are suffering and we're going through a lot of
Speaker 3: trauma attempt to recover from it. There's really no resources.
Speaker 3: If we go to a professional, they're going to blame
Speaker 3: it on the schizophrenia. It's one of their favorite diagnoses
Speaker 3: for these things because they don't want to confront it.
Speaker 3: They don't want to accept it. It's real. People can't
Speaker 3: accept that. You know that the medical system is highly
Speaker 3: corrupt in this country. So if they can't accept that,
Speaker 3: they can't accept the government's corrupt except for the party
Speaker 3: that they oppose, because the party they're in is the
Speaker 3: good guys. If they're not mature enough and capable of
Speaker 3: recognizing that, they're never going to be able to grasp
Speaker 3: this level of evil and corruption. All we can do
Speaker 3: is keep trying. The problem is is that there is
Speaker 3: a clown factory basically in our community that is putting
Speaker 3: out people that are less in less than honest. They're
Speaker 3: less in. I mean, they're literally out to make a buck,
Speaker 3: either from their story or just making things up to
Speaker 3: embellish their self, regardless if they're a real experiencer or
Speaker 3: they're just a complete storyteller. And you know, all due respect,
Speaker 3: and I'm sure he's a nice guy, but I have
Speaker 3: to call out JP Missions on this one. I'm calling bullshit.
Speaker 3: You know, I've been in these programs. There's been plenty
Speaker 3: of people that have come forward and lead. I mean,
Speaker 3: if you look at these whistleblowers that have come forward,
Speaker 3: they're being allowed to speak. Because if you're allowed to
Speaker 3: go on network TV or cable TV or just you know,
Speaker 3: like Ross Coalhart's show, for example, you've been cleared by
Speaker 3: the military industrial complex to speak. So they're not going
Speaker 3: to target kill you or threaten you. They're gonna let
Speaker 3: you speak because they're doing a controlled disclosure right now.
Speaker 3: Everything that you see has been well orchestrated and planned.
Speaker 3: People talking aren't necessarily in on it. They're being allowed
Speaker 3: to speak. If you compare those guys to compare Eric Hecker,
Speaker 3: if you compare some of these all the names of them,
Speaker 3: but you know, the main ones that have come up recently,
Speaker 3: A lot of them have been on that TV show
Speaker 3: or that internet show, acted with an independent media outlet.
Speaker 3: They all have depth in their testimony depending on what
Speaker 3: they've been involved with, if they've been involved directly with
Speaker 3: et wreckages, ets in general, or just really the harsh
Speaker 3: environment of the military. You know, they reflect that. And
Speaker 3: I've talked to Randy Kramer in person at the conference.
Speaker 3: I believe he's a legitimate person. You know, he's one
Speaker 3: of those people you can talk to and they have
Speaker 3: the depth of personality, they have the emotional connection to
Speaker 3: the memories.
Speaker 2: That they have.
Speaker 3: They appear to be real people who have been through
Speaker 3: real you know, real trauma. And there's plenty of other
Speaker 3: people there's drug or read you can talk to. He's
Speaker 3: an excellent example of someone who literally lives and breathes
Speaker 3: his own memories. I mean they have a significant effect
Speaker 3: on his overall personality. He struggles with it every day
Speaker 3: because it bleeds through and it's like there's parts of
Speaker 3: you that don't really fit into society and you have
Speaker 3: to deal with that, and you have to deal with
Speaker 3: literally being all of these other people doing all of
Speaker 3: these other things. So you know, the SSP is it
Speaker 3: isn't hard. I mean, it isn't easy to transition. If
Speaker 3: you were to come out of the SSP and in
Speaker 3: transition in the society, it's not going to be easy
Speaker 3: at all. And so it's done in such a way
Speaker 3: where they they trauma split you, they fracture you, they
Speaker 3: create cloes owns, and they let that part of yourself
Speaker 3: handle it. But when it bleeds through and people integrate
Speaker 3: those alters, you know, it is very difficult. But you
Speaker 3: get to know these people in person, and you get
Speaker 3: to know them from watching their podcasts and being one
Speaker 3: myself and struggling with is you know, we all have
Speaker 3: kind of a feeling for each other and for who's
Speaker 3: legitimate and who isn't or who's not you know, who
Speaker 3: isn't completely being honest, and I you know, I give
Speaker 3: JP all the credit. Lots of credibility there. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, lots of not not credibility, creativity, but it's
Speaker 3: just when it comes down to it, it's bullshit. And
Speaker 3: I have you know, I appreciate the entertainment, but the
Speaker 3: problem is is that there's a lot of us here suffering,
Speaker 3: and when we go public, we get targeted. We have
Speaker 3: our lives threat and some of us get killed. And
Speaker 3: when you see somebody that's completely completely healthy, you know,
Speaker 3: no targeting, no algorithmic suppression, cartoon like intros when they're talking,
Speaker 3: and then when you see all of that, you take
Speaker 3: it all in and it just kind of it's a
Speaker 3: crushing feeling because it's like, you know, somebody's literally grifting
Speaker 3: off of us and taking our testimony and just shitting
Speaker 3: on it for the most part. Yeah. So now if
Speaker 3: you take a look at like what he says, for example,
Speaker 3: if you were to ask him about his military career,
Speaker 3: I'm sure he would give you testimony that that felt real,
Speaker 3: would have an emotional connection to it. You know, you
Speaker 3: would know that he did these things. But he's grasping.
Speaker 3: He's in portrayal mode and he's grasping for things. He's
Speaker 3: using other people's information, and he's turning this into kind
Speaker 3: of an enterprise for himself. And it won't be long
Speaker 3: before the stage that he's on is going to end
Speaker 3: because ed Elena Dennon is a huge ego. When somebody
Speaker 3: gets to that point, she poisons the waters around the
Speaker 3: per and then they get the boot off the stage
Speaker 3: because they start to encroach on her audience and her impact.
Speaker 3: So unfortunately, that's these people, and I call them virtual
Speaker 3: temple complex gurus. They are set up by the military
Speaker 3: industrial complex in one way or another. Now, somebody could
Speaker 3: be a complete grifter, wanders in, starts copying testimony, starts
Speaker 3: formulating an entire story for their self, and of course,
Speaker 3: you know people are inclined to be polite and believe them.
Speaker 3: People will have, you know, got instinct that says, you know,
Speaker 3: that just doesn't feel right. But they're not necessarily going
Speaker 3: to say something. And if you're not being targeted, you're
Speaker 3: not being subconsciously suppressed where they actually affect people around
Speaker 3: you and get them to turn their back on you
Speaker 3: and not want to talk to you without any reason,
Speaker 3: You're gonna get pretty well accepted, especially if you're not
Speaker 3: algorithmically suppressed with the shadow banning. We don't see that
Speaker 3: in his case. Now, there are some exceptions. It is
Speaker 3: some people were allowed to speak and then later sabotaged.
Speaker 3: You know, things will happen to them and they'll fall
Speaker 3: from grace, and when you look into it, you know,
Speaker 3: you know, being in this situation, I know that they
Speaker 3: attempt to corrupt people and they lead them astray. So
Speaker 3: if they won't, they have a habit of building people
Speaker 3: up who have her well meeting and then tearing them down.
Speaker 3: And these would be the legitimate people, but the people
Speaker 3: that are just there to kind of, you know, get
Speaker 3: some attention, make some money, have fun with this at
Speaker 3: other people's expense. They can push these people to the mood.
Speaker 3: They're not going to have any resistance. So I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, I personally, I just wanted to say give
Speaker 3: my critique of the whole presentation that he has. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm from the old school. I would think that you
Speaker 3: would need to be more sophisticated in your testimony, much
Speaker 3: better at delivering it, and more knowledgeable about the technology
Speaker 3: using programs instead of just kind of struggling with it
Speaker 3: like he does. And I think that we've kind of
Speaker 3: lowered the bar since Corey Good as to what we'll accept,
Speaker 3: and I think we're now down at the bottom because
Speaker 3: literally anybody could come up with a story. If they're
Speaker 3: not tied to any programs, they're going to get pushed
Speaker 3: to the moon if they have any appeal. And it's
Speaker 3: really not what you say from what I can see,
Speaker 3: it's not what you say, it's who you know, and
Speaker 3: that's always been the problem with this community. It's who
Speaker 3: you know in this community, because.
Speaker 2: I don't say we're several quick. It's a good comment
Speaker 2: from Matthew.
Speaker 4: Matthew says, it's so weird on one of these supposed
Speaker 4: super soldiers ever seem to do anything super and instead
Speaker 4: just sell memories.
Speaker 3: You know exactly, that's it, and you know you hit
Speaker 3: it right on the head. That's another I wasn't even
Speaker 3: going to bring that up because people who are legitimate
Speaker 3: victims of this, and not everybody can do this. You've
Speaker 3: got to help yourself before you ca up somebody else.
Speaker 3: So people who are really, really the real people will
Speaker 3: will be in the community and they will help one
Speaker 3: another and they form you know, connections with each other.
Speaker 3: They don't act like celebrities. Aage isn't. We're not here
Speaker 3: to make money. There's really no money to be made,
Speaker 3: and the only people who make money generally the people
Speaker 3: that are there to make us look bad. They're there
Speaker 3: to put out a fictional story or fictionalize art art,
Speaker 3: collective testimony and make it look absurd. Now the problem
Speaker 3: here is, you know, I could watch JP's videos and
Speaker 3: I could get a good laugh at it, and I
Speaker 3: could sell this is just entertainment, and look at all
Speaker 3: the people who believe it, and it's just so silly,
Speaker 3: and hopefully they wake up and see the real grass
Speaker 3: between him and other people and you know, say that
Speaker 3: there's no harm done. The problem is that we're at
Speaker 3: the point and wait for disclosure ground. The public is
Speaker 3: waking up a bit. They're starting to accept the presence
Speaker 3: of ETS. Most people accept that the government's been lying
Speaker 3: about it and keeping it a secret. But the psyop
Speaker 3: that's been running and started with Bob Lazar and remote
Speaker 3: viewing at least two remote viewing studies on Bazaar by
Speaker 3: Foresight and by the Future Forecasting Group. Both of them
Speaker 3: found out that Bob Lazarre was a mind control patsy.
Speaker 3: He was recruited to do you know, to be part
Speaker 3: of this reverse engineering program, but he was He was
Speaker 3: basically chosen because he was at risk of being a leaker.
Speaker 3: They knew he was going to he was profiled to
Speaker 3: be somebody who was going to leak this out. And
Speaker 3: on top of it, the Future Forecasting Group, I think
Speaker 3: it was them that not only did they and it
Speaker 3: may have been foresight too. Not only did they see
Speaker 3: him in the actual program and doing what he was
Speaker 3: supposed to be doing, but he was actually he was
Speaker 3: actually pulled into a room and programmed with mind control
Speaker 3: to be a leaker, and then then he was mind wiped.
Speaker 3: So one of his stories, he says, one of the
Speaker 3: reasons that I wanted to go public is is I
Speaker 3: couldn't take it anywhere because I would leave work and
Speaker 3: we'd be leaving there on a bus, you know, with
Speaker 3: the window tent. I think they were. I think they
Speaker 3: blindfolded people too, and they were going back to the
Speaker 3: Las Vegas Airport, of we were going on a plane
Speaker 3: and flying back to it. And he said, I would
Speaker 3: get off of work and I'd be being transported back
Speaker 3: to my car, and I couldn't remember anything I did.
Speaker 3: These were likely the points in time where he was
Speaker 3: mind wiped after being subconsciously directly programmed. However, they did
Speaker 3: it to get him to want to leak, so when
Speaker 3: he did leak, they made the extraterrestrial Highway they you
Speaker 3: know it was. They put signs at both ends of it.
Speaker 3: I've been there. It's been this way for over twenty years.
Speaker 3: I was thirty. I think and Highway three seventy five.
Speaker 3: It's got a UFO on the sign and it says
Speaker 3: welcome to her to the extraterrestrial Highway. The state of
Speaker 3: Nevada would never do that, or the federal government would
Speaker 3: never do anything like that. If they wanted to keep
Speaker 3: it hashash. They had a reason, because they wanted to
Speaker 3: shape the entire belief system of the world and to
Speaker 3: put out the story that all we've done is reverse engineering.
Speaker 3: And the whole purpose of this is the same purpose
Speaker 3: for promoting people like JP and Elena Dennon. It's to
Speaker 3: fictionalize our account of these my lab programs. It's to
Speaker 3: make them questionable so that when mainstream so when the
Speaker 3: mainstream media or independent media first, and then all the
Speaker 3: people who watch that when they see doctor Sala go
Speaker 3: on redacted and talk about a confidential source that he
Speaker 3: has and name is JP. And then he proceeds to
Speaker 3: tell Clayton Morris that the ice that Trump is conducting
Speaker 3: to remove the illegal immigrants out of the country are
Speaker 3: actually a cover for a clandestine operation to liberate men,
Speaker 3: women and children and human trafficking operations who are inside
Speaker 3: these dums that are in under most major cities, or
Speaker 3: at least a certain percentage of them. And this becomes
Speaker 3: independent media news on a well trusted independent media outlet
Speaker 3: which is redacted. They've had Tucker Carlson has been on there.
Speaker 3: The guy that does the show with his wife is
Speaker 3: friends with Tucker. They used to work I believe a
Speaker 3: Fox News together. And I think his wife has done
Speaker 3: other things in journalism too. I don't know her background,
Speaker 3: but yeah. I mean, when you get to the point
Speaker 3: where you can go on a show like that and
Speaker 3: you're spreading this information that's false, it gets in. It
Speaker 3: really gets into the vein of the of the few
Speaker 3: people that are really paying attention right now. These are
Speaker 3: the people looking at the independent media outlets and trying
Speaker 3: to make sense of it. A lot of these outlets
Speaker 3: have been compromised now. So but the problem is is
Speaker 3: that the end, the ground that we're gaining is not
Speaker 3: ground that we're actually accomplishing on our own. There's people
Speaker 3: that are doing that, are taking the lead of this
Speaker 3: and are putting out band information. So what's going to
Speaker 3: happen eventually is when these people see that none of
Speaker 3: this is true, they're going to think the entire disclosure
Speaker 3: of movement is bullshit, and they're going to think about
Speaker 3: They're not going to remember drag or Red. They're not
Speaker 3: going to even see him. He'll be shadow band and
Speaker 3: completely hidden. I'll be hidden. There'll be many many other
Speaker 3: people that are well meaning and are telling the truth
Speaker 3: and are trying to get this trying to get this
Speaker 3: story out and trying to help each other. They're not
Speaker 3: going to be heard from. It's going to be the
Speaker 3: people that are putting out the fiction that are embellishing
Speaker 3: their self, that are either partially in the programs or
Speaker 3: had something to do with it, but then they're adding
Speaker 3: to their story to make a living, to make money,
Speaker 3: because nobody wants to do these miserable jobs that everybody
Speaker 3: has to do. It's easy to be an influencer. It's
Speaker 3: great work. You get to go to conferences and you
Speaker 3: get to live this dreamy existence that you see people
Speaker 3: in social media doing. You know, it's like they don't work.
Speaker 3: They just seem like they're independently wealthy and they get
Speaker 3: to travel around and do conferences and they write books
Speaker 3: and they get paid to speak and you know they
Speaker 3: have the super chats like a David Wilcock, and it
Speaker 3: just say, looks it's alluring. It's like, okay, yeah, that
Speaker 3: would be great if I could do something like that. Well,
Speaker 3: you know that isn't a reality for the real people.
Speaker 3: The real people don't get that unless they've got an
Speaker 3: agenda for somebody, you know, they have to. They're always
Speaker 3: going to let somebody squeak out, you know, like a
Speaker 3: Tony Rodriggs just you know he's real, but you're gonna
Speaker 3: get him out there and you know, let him blow up.
Speaker 3: But I'll take Tony and they'll put them on stage
Speaker 3: with people that discredit him. And that's the other issue too.
Speaker 3: So when you if you get invited to that side
Speaker 3: of the of the community, you run the risk of
Speaker 3: being lumped in with the rest of them, and you
Speaker 3: have a few bad apples that are just just there
Speaker 3: to get attention for theirself, to make some money, whatever
Speaker 3: the case is, whatever fulfill whatever need they have to
Speaker 3: do this, or maybe they're being subconsciously mind controlled, or
Speaker 3: are they're consciously doing it. We get pushed into that
Speaker 3: group and we're seen in that same light, and that's
Speaker 3: where the problem is. So when you have Corey Good
Speaker 3: setting the community back, the whole movement back five years.
Speaker 3: I mean, take a look at Elena Dennaan, take a
Speaker 3: look at these folks, take a look at doctor Salad,
Speaker 3: take a look at JP Missions. Ask yourself, how many
Speaker 3: years are they pushing this back? Because when it comes
Speaker 3: down to it, they're going to ensure that nobody pays
Speaker 3: attention to us. They're going to see them and say,
Speaker 3: there's no way that that's true. They're gonna miss They're
Speaker 3: gonna look at them and they're gonna miss us, and
Speaker 3: they're gonna frame this the way the government wants it
Speaker 3: to be framed, that it just a reverse engineering program
Speaker 3: and they have no treaties with extraterrestrials. They don't know
Speaker 3: what's going on. They're in, you know, it's it's just
Speaker 3: a very innocent thing that the government's in. They're just
Speaker 3: kind of stuck in the middle. There's this other world
Speaker 3: beforce now that we're dealing with. So that leaves the
Speaker 3: door open for a staged alien invasion. It leaves the
Speaker 3: door open for a lot of possibilities and PsiOps and
Speaker 3: three AI Atlas is one of these examples of this.
Speaker 3: There's something anomalous about this thing. It appears to be
Speaker 3: artificial there's people that have been remote viewing it, and
Speaker 3: I'm determined that there's some intelligences inside this or operating it.
Speaker 3: I've heard different version of this. I've heard that, you know,
Speaker 3: they're a stasis or being pulled by a tractor being.
Speaker 3: They're conscious, they're not physically there there, they're kind of
Speaker 3: etheric beings. I've heard a lot of variety of you know,
Speaker 3: remote viewing claims of this, and I haven't done anything myself.
Speaker 3: I don't have a ask her to do the remote
Speaker 3: viewing with and I haven't put the time into it,
Speaker 3: so I have no way to talk about my own
Speaker 3: experiences with that. But I'm just record. I'm just reporting
Speaker 3: on what i'm seeing. But what I am seeing more
Speaker 3: or less though, is anytime the government or you know,
Speaker 3: the media, and including the independent media too, because they
Speaker 3: have a system that controls the independent media, and it's
Speaker 3: no different than the way they control disclosure. They have
Speaker 3: certain people that break free of the containment that everybody
Speaker 3: else is in, and they get out and they're able
Speaker 3: to go on Alex Jones and they're able to go
Speaker 3: on redacted and other programs and they are fortunately representing us.
Speaker 3: These are the Billy Carsons. These are the JP missions
Speaker 3: who speaks through doctor Salah, and there's other people that
Speaker 3: have done this. And when you have that going on,
Speaker 3: you have like people like Eric Hecker who don't want
Speaker 3: to associate with us because it makes his testimony look bad,
Speaker 3: and then you know there's a problem there. So that's
Speaker 3: that's a riff that that that's happening. So the whistleblowers
Speaker 3: that are getting they're having the ability to speak, the
Speaker 3: ones that would be reachable are don't want to talk
Speaker 3: to us because we look bad. And there's a big
Speaker 3: divide in the community as well when it comes to
Speaker 3: influencers and researchers, because everybody's broken up in different genres
Speaker 3: and different there and each one has a different belief system.
Speaker 3: So you have the Christians, Okay, a lot of them
Speaker 3: believe these are demons, and you know, I would say
Speaker 3: they're half right, because these are the beings that have
Speaker 3: portrayed the demons and the angels the entire time we're
Speaker 3: on it. This is a simulation, as is a conscious simulation.
Speaker 3: It's a it's a prison planet. They keep us in
Speaker 3: an artificial augmented reality where they play god. They play
Speaker 3: God and the devil now and they control us that way.
Speaker 3: So it reflects into the disclosure community. See have people
Speaker 3: like Elie Mizzoli who stays away from the my lab stuff,
Speaker 3: and it would be great if we could get his attention,
Speaker 3: but he's only given his attention to He did a project,
Speaker 3: but I think he did a documentary too. It was
Speaker 3: either documentary, but I know it was a series of podcasts.
Speaker 3: And what he was doing was he was introducing people
Speaker 3: who were being abducted to the Christian way of looking
Speaker 3: at things and using Jesus, the power of Christ to
Speaker 3: force away the grays that were doing these abductions. And
Speaker 3: you know, for people that are really tuned into how
Speaker 3: this works, it has to do with engineering consent if
Speaker 3: you can, when you turn to God, you're turning away
Speaker 3: from them, so you're automatically decreasing the level of consent
Speaker 3: that you're giving them. That alone has a substantial effect
Speaker 3: because the simulation is set up and the way the
Speaker 3: creator's rules are. Essentially we have to be are creators,
Speaker 3: and in order for us to be put into this
Speaker 3: situation and controlled like this and put in an augmented reality,
Speaker 3: we at some point have to begin consenting to it.
Speaker 3: The consent can be given through coercion and deception. So
Speaker 3: where we agree to something that we don't know, we
Speaker 3: don't fully understand, we're tricked into it. That's fine under
Speaker 3: these particular rules apparently, so as long as you're giving consent,
Speaker 3: they have control. So the Christians, the Christian researchers are
Speaker 3: onto something very important. The problem is it never gets
Speaker 3: to the rest of us because there's this divide. They
Speaker 3: don't want to talk to us. Now there's one exception,
Speaker 3: and this is also has to do with Eric Hecker too.
Speaker 3: There's only been one person, and that is Maria was
Speaker 3: that I'm trying to think of her name, rob She's
Speaker 3: got really it's got fair skin like me, she's got
Speaker 3: blonde hair. It's Maria God, I can't think of her name,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm talking about or Marina amor.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Right. So she has been on l A. Mizzoli's program
Speaker 3: as an as an interview, and she was on Lyndna
Speaker 3: Moulton Hall and Eric Hecker. So she's been to all
Speaker 3: three and I think it had to do with a conference.
Speaker 3: I think that's how she got the exposure to these people.
Speaker 3: The problem there is is that Marina is not the
Speaker 3: best example of someone to represent all of us. But
Speaker 3: that's that's the way it was framed, because these guys
Speaker 3: picked the person that they could tear down the easiest,
Speaker 3: and then they put them on their on their show,
Speaker 3: and they did just that. So they made an example
Speaker 3: of us by making an example of her. And you know,
Speaker 3: I'm not here to tear her down. There's plenty of
Speaker 3: critics and people who said things about her. I'm not
Speaker 3: going to do that. I'm just pointing out that there's
Speaker 3: better people to put on. If you're going to put
Speaker 3: her on, then put up put other people on. Okay,
Speaker 3: put Draga read on l A. Mizzoli's program, let him
Speaker 3: asking questions. Okay, let's get people that have real, in depth,
Speaker 3: accurate and very clear testimony. Let's get people with real
Speaker 3: credibility who can articulate this whole thing in the way
Speaker 3: that it needs to be articulating. And there's plenty of
Speaker 3: us out there. Give everybody a chance to talk. Don't
Speaker 3: just sample the people that are that are that you
Speaker 3: think are gonna be easy to tear down. And that's
Speaker 3: what they've done. And this had to be said because
Speaker 3: it's going to continue we need to call this stuff out.
Speaker 3: So I you know, if I have sent anybody by
Speaker 3: saying these things, I'm sorry, but these are inconvenient truths
Speaker 3: that need to be spoken. I can't just sit here
Speaker 3: and go along with the old rules of the way
Speaker 3: that we always did things, which is where if there's
Speaker 3: a problem in the community, you don't talk about it,
Speaker 3: you don't criticize or point the finger. You can do
Speaker 3: it in a polite way, you know, no fence to JP.
Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, I think that it's a
Speaker 3: brilliant grift. It's a it's a it's an extras in
Speaker 3: human psychology and marketing, and it tells a lot about
Speaker 3: the state of the cognitive state of the public and
Speaker 3: their ability to discern falsehoods and truth. And it says
Speaker 3: a lot about people who are looking for truth that
Speaker 3: they a lot and you know, they really just don't
Speaker 3: have the intuition. They're still very very lost, and they're
Speaker 3: easy to impress, they're easy to lead astray. And when
Speaker 3: the algorithms are the ones are the source of the information,
Speaker 3: that's it's literally the filter that's dictating what people see.
Speaker 3: If all they see is this fluffy New Age stuff,
Speaker 3: mixed in with these my lab stories to make it
Speaker 3: into some type of sci fi infotainment infotainment presentation. It completely,
Speaker 3: it completely destroys our our you know, collective testimony, and
Speaker 3: it makes everything that we're trying to do pretty much
Speaker 3: impossible to actually do with any measure of success because
Speaker 3: they're not going to see us. They're going to see
Speaker 3: those people. They're the ones who are representing us. And
Speaker 3: I think that we can politely point this stuff out
Speaker 3: and openly. Had had to have open discourse on it. So,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm sure I'll be taking a lot of
Speaker 3: shit for this, but I just you know, I had
Speaker 3: to say. It had to be said. Somebody had to
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good man.
Speaker 4: You know, I agree with you, and uh, you know,
Speaker 4: I was seeing if there was any interesting comments from
Speaker 4: you know, I think people are disagreeing with you in
Speaker 4: the chat, you know. Uh, Brandon Bajeon says, what do
Speaker 4: you think of John Ramirez's testimony.
Speaker 3: I don't really get into this type of thing pointing fingers.
Speaker 3: I don't know John Ramirez. I'm just pointing out the
Speaker 3: people that that are obvious, that are that are all
Speaker 3: that are literally causing a problem, and it has to
Speaker 3: do with you know, JP's information going on to redacted,
Speaker 3: because that's really going to do some damage. Corey Good
Speaker 3: never made it that far, and I think Corey Good
Speaker 3: made a little bit on it, got a little bit
Speaker 3: on the History Channel with David Wilcock. I think Randy
Speaker 3: Kramer burnt through the veil a little bit. He's been
Speaker 3: on one or two or three programs. The thing with
Speaker 3: Randy is that it appeared that, you know, he had
Speaker 3: some handles, some military handlers, like a lot of us do.
Speaker 3: And I think what happened to him is they just
Speaker 3: kind of led him down the wrong path and he
Speaker 3: kind of sabotaged himself for a while. I don't want
Speaker 3: to get into that, but that that happens with some individuals.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, they come forward, they have real testimony,
Speaker 3: and they're either put on the stage with the wrong
Speaker 3: people we're allowed to be put on the stage and
Speaker 3: that that kind of you know, discredits them, or they're
Speaker 3: led down a path where they make some personal mistakes
Speaker 3: and then it looks bad for them and then ultimately
Speaker 3: looks bad for us. But you know, I'm a forgiving person.
Speaker 3: You know, so people make mistakes, but the problem is
Speaker 3: is that, you know, we have a situation where this
Speaker 3: is our time, really, you know, to get to really
Speaker 3: get this testimony out. It's the first time in the
Speaker 3: history of the world that we have this opportunity. And
Speaker 3: I see it just being I see it just being
Speaker 3: pissed away, and and and it's it's it's a real
Speaker 3: shame because when you go public like this, you get
Speaker 3: first thing I noticed was for me. And you know,
Speaker 3: I hadn't said anything online except for just comments in
Speaker 3: their videos. You know, I had no public or no
Speaker 3: social media presence whatsoever. I was literally hardcore shadow hard.
Speaker 3: I experienced hardcore shadow banding from the beginning, as well
Speaker 3: as suppression in the community. People just didn't want to
Speaker 3: talk to me. And I thought, you know, you know,
Speaker 3: you watch these programs where you know, somebody gets subducted,
Speaker 3: they start remembering, or they contact or research or they
Speaker 3: write on it, they contact them back. None of that's
Speaker 3: really the way this works. Most people get ignored. They
Speaker 3: created the system where they can influence people subconsciously to
Speaker 3: where if you reach out to someone in need of
Speaker 3: help or actually you're in need of help, or you
Speaker 3: want to talk about your testimony, it's going to be
Speaker 3: hard to find somebody to listen unless the handlers want
Speaker 3: you to be heard.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Early on Rob there was a lady that works for Moufon.
Speaker 3: There was another example. Moufon is a big problem because
Speaker 3: they won't deal with my lab issue. Moufon was infiltrated
Speaker 3: a long time ago by the Central Intelligence Agency. It's
Speaker 3: been influenced ever since. They're not going to touch this subject.
Speaker 3: They've tried to dabble in a little bit in the past,
Speaker 3: but I you know from my experience, they won't handle.
Speaker 2: It at all.
Speaker 3: There was a lady you referred me to for a
Speaker 3: hypnotic regression. As soon as she found out that I
Speaker 3: was in my lab, she wouldn't return my calls after
Speaker 3: giving me her her office number, and it was it
Speaker 3: was an interesting experience because all of a sudden she
Speaker 3: didn't want nothing to do with me. She wouldn't answer
Speaker 3: my emails or anything. Up to that point. She was
Speaker 3: more than happy to help me, and it was just
Speaker 3: to my lab thing that came up, and that was it.
Speaker 3: It wasn't that somebody got to her, called her up
Speaker 3: or even insul here. It's just the fact that I
Speaker 3: was betraying myself or look like a my lab at
Speaker 3: the time that I was seeking help. And that's a
Speaker 3: stigma that we've got to do something about. And I
Speaker 3: think conferences are a way to do that, but I
Speaker 3: think more people need to come forward share their testimony.
Speaker 3: I think time is really is what's going to work.
Speaker 3: But I think we really do have to call out
Speaker 3: the bullshit because it has gotten to the point where
Speaker 3: they're really there's no end to it. At this point.
Speaker 3: It's just going to keep flowing like a river and
Speaker 3: the river is going to widen its banks until it's
Speaker 3: going to be a massive flow of an ocean, and uh,
Speaker 3: we're going to get washed away in it, and our
Speaker 3: testimony is not going to be heard.
Speaker 2: So that's a good point, A good point.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, it's yeah, it's it's a shame too,
Speaker 5: is uh yeah, yeah, honest hotly, I.
Speaker 2: Agree on everything you're saying.
Speaker 4: The I mean it's like, so how do we I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, like, how do you think you can discern better?
Speaker 4: I mean, as we like moving, you know, because I
Speaker 4: think that's what people need to do, is you start
Speaker 4: discerned about some of these people that are speaking out.
Speaker 3: You know, this goes to the way of deprogramming from
Speaker 3: the simulation itself and the simulation. You look at this
Speaker 3: different ways. You consider's a high highly technological consciousness simulation.
Speaker 3: That's and there's you know, genetic suppression of human psychic abilities.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's obvious. But if you look at the
Speaker 3: initial portion of the simulation, it's a false reality that
Speaker 3: you're born into and you're taught about this false reality
Speaker 3: from from a young child. So it builds and you
Speaker 3: start getting you develop a belief system according to your
Speaker 3: parents and your peers, and you got to kind of
Speaker 3: strip that away. Now, as far as what we can
Speaker 3: do to fix this, people need to really just keep
Speaker 3: talking and networking together and doing the best that they
Speaker 3: can because the government's not going to admit to anything.
Speaker 3: If anything, they're gonna take. They're gonna hide the my
Speaker 3: lab testimony, and they're gonna use the rest of this
Speaker 3: ball testimony that a lot of it they've engineered, and
Speaker 3: they're gonna use it to run thigh ops. Frankly, I
Speaker 3: really don't have much of an answer, man, I mean,
Speaker 3: just just do more of the same. But as far
Speaker 3: as discernment goes in how to get people to discern better. Well,
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a couple of guidelines that you can
Speaker 3: look at. You can say, okay, let's get down a list.
Speaker 3: Is the person being shadow band okay, because this is
Speaker 3: the easiest way to contain someone's testimony, is to prevent
Speaker 3: them from being seen on the internet. If they're blowing
Speaker 3: up all over the place, and it's just totally unrestricted,
Speaker 3: and it's what you would expect if just someone were
Speaker 3: to talk and talk about these things and that people
Speaker 3: are interested in, you know, and there's no there's nothing
Speaker 3: holding it back. That's one particular sign that something's wrong.
Speaker 3: That's not the way that hold on. That doesn't the
Speaker 3: way the system works. They have a sophisticated system of suppression.
Speaker 3: This is done through social media algorithms and personal targeting
Speaker 3: and remote mind control and so on and so forth,
Speaker 3: and they literally engineer and experience around the whistleblower, around
Speaker 3: the abduction victim the point where it becomes very difficult
Speaker 3: to live their life and do the and speak publicly.
Speaker 3: So they wear you down if they don't outright kill
Speaker 3: some people. You know, we've known people in the community
Speaker 3: in the past year or two that that have that
Speaker 3: have been killed and you know, you can say it
Speaker 3: was cancer with Rinetta, but I mean, I know for
Speaker 3: a fact they make you sick, and a lot of
Speaker 3: people they can't kill, so they will make them sick
Speaker 3: until they give up, and then they then they have
Speaker 3: permission to get them, you know. And uh So, going
Speaker 3: down the list, we're going to say, Okay, social media,
Speaker 3: if there's no suppression, that's a concern. That means that
Speaker 3: there's a potential either somebody's being used to push a
Speaker 3: particular belief and may be true, but they want them
Speaker 3: to speak, or they're co opting someone who's drifting or
Speaker 3: embellishing theirself and they've got some level of control, so
Speaker 3: they want to use this person. So then that person
Speaker 3: gets unrestricted access to the public. They can say what
Speaker 3: they want. Their channels never get taken down, their videos
Speaker 3: don't get taken down, and they blow up like crazy.
Speaker 3: That's one number two. Somebody's in the community and there's
Speaker 3: no opposition to them. It's like everybody's flocking to them
Speaker 3: all of a sudden. Everybody's mesmerized. People are subconsciously influenced.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people that are mind controlled that
Speaker 3: don't even realize that. And many that do that are
Speaker 3: struggling with it. Their thoughts and emotions can be can
Speaker 3: be manipulated in mass to gather around and focus on someone,
Speaker 3: believe it or not. That's the way it is, and
Speaker 3: it's done. It's done every day with the television sets,
Speaker 3: it's done every day with social media through conventional means.
Speaker 3: Ben Shapiro would not be as big as he is
Speaker 3: if it wasn't for other voices being suppressed. Okay, he's
Speaker 3: like the he's like the TMU patriot. Okay, he's not
Speaker 3: really a patriot. He's for Israel, not for the United States.
Speaker 3: He's just you know, he has his agenda. He's paid
Speaker 3: to have that agenda. He's a shill. He will get
Speaker 3: massive appeal because he's got massive exposure. Okay, it just
Speaker 3: goes on and on like that. Project red Pill is
Speaker 3: a program where they do the same thing that they do.
Speaker 3: They do the same thing with the Patriot movement and
Speaker 3: all of that that they do with us. For those people.
Speaker 3: They have the QAnon psyop that's running to get those
Speaker 3: people fighting against you know, they they get them to
Speaker 3: believe crazy things and then they get people fighting amongst
Speaker 3: theirselves over who's right and who's wrong. And you know,
Speaker 3: you have one side saying that these people are crazy,
Speaker 3: that everyone's a pedophile in Congress, when there's quite a
Speaker 3: few of them. There's truth in that, but people on
Speaker 3: the other side are going to discount it because it
Speaker 3: just seems so absurd that they're all bad. It's taken
Speaker 3: to extremes, so they muddy the waters with these with
Speaker 3: this disinfo program and they use algorithms. So anyway, if
Speaker 3: you don't have the suppression and you're blowing up, there's
Speaker 3: something to be concerned about. Now if you listen to
Speaker 3: their testimony. If there's somebody out there who's talking and
Speaker 3: using other people's material and you recognize it, there's another sign.
Speaker 3: A lot of people that are making things up will
Speaker 3: take testimony from a variety of people, put it together,
Speaker 3: put their own spin on it, and then present it.
Speaker 3: So you have to look for that now, and that's
Speaker 3: sometimes difficult to discern because you know a lot of
Speaker 3: the people have had the same experiences. Because you sound
Speaker 3: like somebody else doesn't mean you're copying their testimony. Also,
Speaker 3: if you have the same experience and it's suspicious, it
Speaker 3: may not be because someone's lying or copying someone else.
Speaker 3: It could be because they have taken an experience and
Speaker 3: an emotional impact of it and the muscle memory that
Speaker 3: comes with it. The entire experience in a person's brain
Speaker 3: can be uploaded or downloaded whever you want to put
Speaker 3: it to another asset to give them that ability, So
Speaker 3: they could clone experiences literally put experiences from one person
Speaker 3: into multiple people, and then when you remember it back,
Speaker 3: you're like, that person stole my testimony. It's not always
Speaker 3: the case, you know, it could be that so, and
Speaker 3: we really don't know a lot of these experience, a
Speaker 3: lot of these memories, some percentage of them could be
Speaker 3: some type of virtual reality experience that we're not able
Speaker 3: to discern from the real memories. So you have that
Speaker 3: as well, and that's where this other stuff comes in,
Speaker 3: like I just mentioned. But so you have to go
Speaker 3: down the line. And now if they're copying QAnon and
Speaker 3: they're mixing it with other people's testimony, you know, you've
Speaker 3: got to get a feel for these things, and you've
Speaker 3: got to be you hadn't been paying attention for decades.
Speaker 3: They're really good a good grasp on this. I have
Speaker 3: seen so many psyops with the Ashtar command going back
Speaker 3: to the nineteen eighties where where there was a pull
Speaker 3: shift coming and then there was a mass what do
Speaker 3: they call it, a rapture coming of one hundred and
Speaker 3: forty four thousand. We keep hearing this repetitively talked about
Speaker 3: in the New age community and the contact ease. There's
Speaker 3: always this number one hundred and forty four thousand. When
Speaker 3: you start seeing repetitive themes like this being recycled, it's bullshit.
Speaker 3: You need to toss it out. It's just another long
Speaker 3: running repetitive psyop. They keep repackaging it, transmitting it through
Speaker 3: voice to skull to these people, and then they repeat
Speaker 3: it and they go on social media and they think
Speaker 3: they're talking to aliens, just like I was. I thought
Speaker 3: I was talking to Hot Jay and ets I was
Speaker 3: talking to a man with him and a woman with
Speaker 3: a headset on working out of either a dumb a
Speaker 3: deep hunderground military base or what we found later is
Speaker 3: working for a tech company called soft Sell International. It
Speaker 3: has various different names, but soft sells the main name
Speaker 3: of the you know the company. It's headquartered out of
Speaker 3: India's as far as we know, that's the company. But
Speaker 3: you know they're they're contracted to the military and they
Speaker 3: do clandestine services. There's there's handler networks within corporations and
Speaker 3: companies that you would never even know. There's gang stocking.
Speaker 3: There's companies that are in private security companies that actually
Speaker 3: have wings of their operation that involve gang stocking, and
Speaker 3: they're contracted to the military. So you know, the whole
Speaker 3: system is geared to creating that's kind of all. The
Speaker 3: whole system is geared creating a system. The system is
Speaker 3: geared to be the type of system that is designed
Speaker 3: to suppress people. It's designed to win a to win
Speaker 3: a revolution without ever firing a shot, and that's what
Speaker 3: we see. So they're going to suppress people before they
Speaker 3: can actually make change in the world. That's why we
Speaker 3: have the ben Shapiros, and we have these other types
Speaker 3: of people, these patriots that are substantially flawed, people that
Speaker 3: are leading a lot of other people who mean well,
Speaker 3: who want the truth, who want something to follow that
Speaker 3: means something that's the way out of the darkness. They're
Speaker 3: looking for that, and they find these people and they
Speaker 3: get led astray. So it's like the pied piper leading
Speaker 3: the children into the mountains and never be found. Again,
Speaker 3: so now when we look at the testimony of people
Speaker 3: like contact, these channelers and so forth, you know, how
Speaker 3: do we know what we're getting from them is legitimate?
Speaker 3: How do we know that the entities beings or whatever
Speaker 3: they're communicating with are good and that they're real and
Speaker 3: not military in disguise. And you know, you have to
Speaker 3: really look at some of the key messaging here. And
Speaker 3: if the key message is that this is a school,
Speaker 3: there is no prison here, there's no negative ets, and
Speaker 3: everything is just kosher and wonderful and beautiful, and our
Speaker 3: hardships are all our fault because we need to evolve spiritually,
Speaker 3: and all of the fault is on humanity. That's bullshit.
Speaker 3: That's deceptive extraterrestrials masquerating as light beings, masquerating as positive ets.
Speaker 3: That's what I would call the containment gospel, okay, because
Speaker 3: it's all about containing you on this planet and giving
Speaker 3: you a false belief system to where you feel that
Speaker 3: you can't leave the planet, go and go back to
Speaker 3: where you came from until you've evolved to a certain point.
Speaker 3: And you know that goes when you look into the
Speaker 3: near death experiences, there's one thing that's common throughout these
Speaker 3: is that somebody else is in control of us. We're
Speaker 3: not in control. It's not God's will for us to
Speaker 3: be under the control of somebody else. When it comes
Speaker 3: down to where our consciousness goes after death. That is
Speaker 3: not That is not the will of God. That is
Speaker 3: the will of negative extraterrestrials who have created a prison
Speaker 3: and they're using it to recycle people and keep them here. Okay,
Speaker 3: I think we can all agree that's happening. To what
Speaker 3: extent we can disagree on, but it's happening. And they
Speaker 3: will get you, and they will trick you after death,
Speaker 3: and they will mind wipe you and put you right
Speaker 3: back here and you will never get out. You're being
Speaker 3: treated as a slave for these programs, and you're being
Speaker 3: used as livestock. You're ginetic material. They're even eating people.
Speaker 3: They're even using human beings as food. So when you
Speaker 3: have beings that are doing this, they don't have your
Speaker 3: best interest at heart, and they have a containment gospel.
Speaker 3: As I say, it's all about essentially taking away your power.
Speaker 3: You give up your power, and that's the way the
Speaker 3: religions are too. You got to give up you, you
Speaker 3: got to give your okay, you have to give control
Speaker 3: over the Jesus. Well, when when I hear Jesus read
Speaker 3: what he says, he's not saying that, he's you know,
Speaker 3: he's saying that, you know you've got God in you.
Speaker 3: You know you've got everything you need in you. It's
Speaker 3: like the Wizard of Oz. You know, you know, you know,
Speaker 3: they're they're looking for the line what the lions looking for?
Speaker 3: A heart, he wants to be brave. The tin Man,
Speaker 3: he wanted a brain or something. I forget what what
Speaker 3: the three were, but they all were an attribute that
Speaker 3: they already had in them. And the whole, the whole
Speaker 3: plot there was that in the end they realized that
Speaker 3: they already had these abilities, they already had in them.
Speaker 3: They didn't need some wizard who really is like an
Speaker 3: e t it's behind the curtain playing God with us.
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of menas with that, which is
Speaker 3: why I believe that and that was I think that
Speaker 3: was used in the programs. You know, the Wizard of Oz,
Speaker 3: it's loaded with cult symbolism if you know what to
Speaker 3: look for, and I believe it was downloaded into the
Speaker 3: minds of various people. The shape human consciousness and kind
Speaker 3: of give us the environment that we have. And that
Speaker 3: was something I had to download about that from the
Speaker 3: military Handler's mascuin a his ets. Not that they're credible,
Speaker 3: but it made sense and speaking of that, and this
Speaker 3: is this could be Take this with a grain of salt.
Speaker 3: This doesn't because what handlers tell you is often BS.
Speaker 3: It's often designed to deceive you and contain you, and
Speaker 3: you have to you have to look at it that way.
Speaker 3: It's potential BS. But during the time that I was
Speaker 3: under the influence of them, and I thought I was
Speaker 3: talking to an Andromeda named He'll be d who presented
Speaker 3: himself as a bald guy with no ears, fair skinned,
Speaker 3: thin built, about six feet human features other than no
Speaker 3: ears and no hair, and just kind of an albino
Speaker 3: look to him. He told me. Because I was asking,
Speaker 3: I said, what podcast do you recommend? And I go on,
Speaker 3: since you guys are the ones that are orchestrating this,
Speaker 3: because they told me that they were engineering disclosure, that
Speaker 3: they were the popul of ETS, and they were engineering
Speaker 3: humanity for disclosure and to bring them into the galactic family.
Speaker 3: It's the same old story that a lot of people
Speaker 3: are told, and you know it doesn't mean it's not true,
Speaker 3: doesn't mean there's not groups out there that want to
Speaker 3: do that. But the bad ones use that promise. They
Speaker 3: use that line to get us, to get you to
Speaker 3: trust them and to get you to talk on their
Speaker 3: behalf and to see if other people and be an
Speaker 3: influencer and you. They're pushing the party line. But it's
Speaker 3: really nasty ets in there. So actually behind it, I said,
Speaker 3: who who should Whose podcast should.
Speaker 2: I go on?
Speaker 3: And and I said, and I named a few people,
Speaker 3: and I don't remember what they said, but they're one
Speaker 3: that stuck out it that stuck out. I said, what
Speaker 3: about doctor Sally, he's talking to contactees And he said
Speaker 3: to me, Now, like I said, take this with a
Speaker 3: grain of salt, because it could have just been BS.
Speaker 3: But ultimately there's truth in it, a lot of truth.
Speaker 3: Whether whatever the context was, why I was being told
Speaker 3: to me in a way it was being told that's
Speaker 3: the part that you have to kind of question. But
Speaker 3: he said, doctor Salah is part of a special program
Speaker 3: that we're doing, and we're using doctor Salah as the
Speaker 3: bridge because we're in the Historically, researchers have avoided the channelers,
Speaker 3: they've avoided the contact Ease, and we wanted the Galactic
Speaker 3: Federation message to be given out by a researcher through
Speaker 3: contact Ease. So we want you to stay out of that,
Speaker 3: and we're going to use you elsewhere as an influencer.
Speaker 3: So this is what I was being told. Now you
Speaker 3: can see it happening, because that's exactly what's happening. Right
Speaker 3: around that time, he got connected with Elena Denon and
Speaker 3: it just went from there until they had a falling out.
Speaker 3: And I don't know why they had a falling out,
Speaker 3: you know, but there was some so there was some
Speaker 3: fighting taking place and that ended, but it didn't end
Speaker 3: with the other people that are there talking and he
Speaker 3: continues to be putting out that information. So he is
Speaker 3: being used for that, whether he realizes it or not.
Speaker 3: He doesn't. I don't believe he's he's willing to believe
Speaker 3: that there's handler networks that this stuff is being I mean,
Speaker 3: he may think that, you know, there's there's some suppression.
Speaker 3: There's men in black, that's a common story. But the
Speaker 3: men in black, by the way, and that's another thing
Speaker 3: I just thought of this. Actually, it makes it breaks
Speaker 3: perfect sense. They fictionalized that they made a series of movies,
Speaker 3: the Men in Black, right with Will Smith and I
Speaker 3: forget the other guy. They're entertaining movies. Great, you know,
Speaker 3: nothing wrong with him, but they're they're designed to to
Speaker 3: kind of give people an idea of what the suppression
Speaker 3: really looks like. And it's really what it's not. You
Speaker 3: know that there there's there's these good patriotic, well meeting
Speaker 3: men in Black like Will Smith, he's a good guy
Speaker 3: and his partner, and that really mean well, they're protecting
Speaker 3: the earth. They're going around and they're and they're keeping
Speaker 3: the lid on the things that don't need to be
Speaker 3: talked about because the public will panic. But at the
Speaker 3: same time they're saving the earth and maintaining order, and
Speaker 3: they're policing the ets. So all well and good. On
Speaker 3: the flip side, in the UFO literature, in the early
Speaker 3: UFO literature, these people, these whoever, they are going around
Speaker 3: threatening people or intimidating and so forth, but they want
Speaker 3: you to believe that's as far as it goes, just
Speaker 3: like with you know, the other stuff that they're portraying,
Speaker 3: like the reverse engineering. So the Men in Black and
Speaker 3: the reverse engineering are two sides of a suppression narrative.
Speaker 3: So on the Men in Black side, they don't want
Speaker 3: you to think that they've got psychotronic weapons. They've got
Speaker 3: the Havana syndrome to explain that. So if you want
Speaker 3: to buy into the psychotronic warfare narrative, you're going to
Speaker 3: find a dead end called the Havana syndrome. It's admitted,
Speaker 3: scantly admitted. You know, the government admits to it. The
Speaker 3: United States says we don't have this technology. It's probably
Speaker 3: Russia attacking our their attacking the Cuban embassy, and they're
Speaker 3: attacking people that work for us. Who I believe it was, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was the vanison dressed Cuban Embassy. So they're running
Speaker 3: a narrative that basically says that we don't do the
Speaker 3: psychotronic weapons. That's Russia the bad guys. And when it
Speaker 3: comes to this type of thing with the Men in
Speaker 3: Black it's just they go around, they pay you a visit,
Speaker 3: they tell you not to talk about something, and then
Speaker 3: they leave. They may threaten you because it's a matter
Speaker 3: of national security and mistakes are high, or they may
Speaker 3: just intimidate you or politely ask you to shut up,
Speaker 3: but it doesn't go any further than that. That's what
Speaker 3: they want you to think and make. And it's just
Speaker 3: like with Project Bluebeam, there's another narrative that is a
Speaker 3: type of dead end because when people see like UFO
Speaker 3: footage and they see this type of thing, they a
Speaker 3: lot of people have this knee jerk reaction where they say, oh,
Speaker 3: that's Project Blue Beam, okay. And what I think we're
Speaker 3: missing with Project Blue Beam is it's highly unlikely that
Speaker 3: they're going to stage a fake UFO landing an invasion.
Speaker 3: I think really the purpose of Project Bluebeam was to
Speaker 3: tell people that there's such a plan, to leak it out,
Speaker 3: to get people talking about it, to put it into
Speaker 3: the human psyche so that they use it to question things.
Speaker 3: And then that is the syop itself, so it discredits anything. Oh,
Speaker 3: that's the government showing off. It's not really extraterrestrial. It's
Speaker 3: just that it's a hoax. Trump is in office, we're
Speaker 3: going to have they're going to pull out their high
Speaker 3: tech drones that they don't disclose to the public, that
Speaker 3: they have that go beyond our technology, and they're going
Speaker 3: to go out there and they're going to put on
Speaker 3: a show for everybody. Because the deep State needs a distraction,
Speaker 3: so you know, there's your project blue Beam. I believe
Speaker 3: I believe the real syop is just the acknowledgement of
Speaker 3: Blue Beam and the potential threat. I don't think they're
Speaker 3: going to use actually state something like this. I think
Speaker 3: what the purpose is of all of this disclosure right
Speaker 3: now is to give people disclosure fatigue. The people the
Speaker 3: public are tired of hearing about it.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, take it any to the bathroom real quick.
Speaker 2: I'll be right back.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll just keep talking for a moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Everybody is is that they
Speaker 3: want people to have disclosure fatigue. The more you hear
Speaker 3: about something, the less sanitized you are to the subject.
Speaker 3: It's the same thing with the Epstein files. We know
Speaker 3: we're not going to get it, but we were promised
Speaker 3: the Epstein files. So then they kind of give Epstein light,
Speaker 3: they give documents they've already had out there in the
Speaker 3: public domain, and then the Stone Wall, and then they
Speaker 3: make a political circus out of it. So then the
Speaker 3: public just throws up their hands and they say, well,
Speaker 3: no Epstein files, we were never going to get it anyway.
Speaker 3: And then it just goes away, but they're not thinking
Speaker 3: about the victims anymore. They're just thinking about it from
Speaker 3: a political point of view, that it's just a political ruse,
Speaker 3: a political hoax, political psio, nothing more to it. They're
Speaker 3: desensitizing us to all of these things, and you know,
Speaker 3: that's what the problem is, and I think that's where
Speaker 3: this disclosure narrative goes. It goes to a form of
Speaker 3: desensitization and the realization that you know, the government's going
Speaker 3: to do whatever it wants to do, but it's not
Speaker 3: going to affect me. At least this one subject isn't
Speaker 3: because they've always been here and I'm tired of hearing
Speaker 3: about it. So it's a way to admit that they're there,
Speaker 3: but then to get the public to not care anymore.
Speaker 3: Most people are just focused on trying to survive at
Speaker 3: this point. They're worried about war. They're worried about getting
Speaker 3: laid off, losing their job or not finding a job.
Speaker 3: They're worried about paying their bills. They're worried about losing
Speaker 3: their social security, their disability, their health care, all of
Speaker 3: their social safety net is potentially up for grabs. Because
Speaker 3: we're headed into a financial collapse. People are recognizing that
Speaker 3: you can't hide from the fifty one trillion in debt
Speaker 3: I think we're in in this country. These are the
Speaker 3: things that people are really truly worried about. Everything else
Speaker 3: is a distraction, But at the same time, it's to
Speaker 3: desensitize people, and that is your disclosure narrative. I from
Speaker 3: what I see, and it's a sad day, and it's
Speaker 3: a sad time to be alive that we have this
Speaker 3: potential to expose this and potentially turn some of it around.
Speaker 3: But the public has fatigue. They're exhausted from this, and
Speaker 3: frankly I am too. I mean, it's just it gets
Speaker 3: to be old. I'm tired of the three AI Atlas
Speaker 3: circus every day. And I don't recommend going on Facebook.
Speaker 3: I think it's one of the worst apps that you
Speaker 3: can use. Maybe good for finding a product or two
Speaker 3: that you wouldn't see, but frankly it's toxic. You go
Speaker 3: on there and it's just doomsday, and they keep you
Speaker 3: on an echo chamber and they fill it full of
Speaker 3: the things that you want to hear to the point
Speaker 3: where you don't want to hear it anymore, and they
Speaker 3: keep one It's one ai uh one AI post after another,
Speaker 3: and it's completely false. Videos of three Ai at Lias
Speaker 3: pictures that are false, and all sorts of nonsense about
Speaker 3: the medical procedure, the stabination, how it's gonna save the
Speaker 3: world and cure cancer, all of this. It's it's just
Speaker 3: one big css pool of disinformation. So I'm gonna sit
Speaker 3: here for a minute and have a sip of coffee
Speaker 3: and Robi get back. It kind of throws off the
Speaker 3: throws off the momentum when I'm talking, but I want
Speaker 3: to go to the next topic. But I hope everybody
Speaker 3: gets the point. I mean, you know, we're being just
Speaker 3: worn out. We've got we've all got fatigued at this point.
Speaker 3: The situation with Donald Trump, and I'll spell that out
Speaker 3: for you. There was promise in his first term. We
Speaker 3: saw somebody who was somewhat rogue and not fully controllable,
Speaker 3: and we saw and what we did see is a
Speaker 3: person that was ill equipped for the position. He was
Speaker 3: groomed by a very powerful, rich interest to bail him
Speaker 3: out early on when he went bankrupt. These are people
Speaker 3: that are directly tied to the Israeli government. These are
Speaker 3: special interest groups tied to what is it dumb, apak
Speaker 3: and so forth, and they're connected to big tech, they're
Speaker 3: connected to the entire financial oligarchy. And Trump was essentially
Speaker 3: used much like a patsy, but more of a willing one.
Speaker 3: He read what he represents is as a faction of
Speaker 3: the New World Order that is in disagreement with the
Speaker 3: other faction. So they're not all in the same they're
Speaker 3: not all on the same page with the agenda. They
Speaker 3: have discrepancies, so I believed in. But they use these
Speaker 3: people regardless of faction, and they're on to get to
Speaker 3: the same place. It's just it may take a little
Speaker 3: bit longer, we may take a detour, it may look
Speaker 3: a little bit different on the way there, but we're
Speaker 3: going to get there no matter who is in office.
Speaker 3: And Trump's purpose was initially to go in as kind
Speaker 3: of the Maverick wrecking ball, to be someone that represented change,
Speaker 3: that represented a new way of doing things. And we
Speaker 3: got to get a taste of that with the foreign
Speaker 3: policy where they curb the wars and the nation building,
Speaker 3: and then you see him get right back into it
Speaker 3: in full force on steroids, and we're not seeing any
Speaker 3: change at all. We're seeing more or less in Israel
Speaker 3: first policy program and America last. And people were very
Speaker 3: disappointed in this and all of the corruption that we've
Speaker 3: had for all of these years. This is massive amounts
Speaker 3: of illegal immigration. We're the only country that does this
Speaker 3: that tears our own borders down and floods the country.
Speaker 3: Well fifty million people they're undocumented, and it's it's a
Speaker 3: it's a horror show as to what's happening with these people.
Speaker 3: These are real people with real lives. They came here
Speaker 3: on false pretenses. They were sold bullshit and they were paying.
Speaker 3: A lot of them had guid they had their way
Speaker 3: paid into the country and other sacrifice to get here
Speaker 3: and were brought here by human traffickers. A lot of
Speaker 3: children three hundred and fifty thousand children passed who probably died.
Speaker 3: They were sold into you know, two cartels. They were
Speaker 3: sold in cartels. Essentially, they went into human hands of
Speaker 3: human traffickers. They found a small number of these children,
Speaker 3: but finding data on it and how many people that
Speaker 3: I mean kids they found out of three hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty thousand, it's difficult, it's not being reported on. But
Speaker 3: the purpose of Donald Trump was it's like you hear
Speaker 3: the problem action solution scenario. You create years, decades of
Speaker 3: corruption and inefficient's fraud use, so they have to give
Speaker 3: it a phrase to make it sound official. So it's
Speaker 3: ways fraud and abuse is the new term. And all
Speaker 3: of the presidents, all of the politicians in county, the
Speaker 3: state to federal government have been part of this waste,
Speaker 3: fraud and abuse system. It's been it's a systemic problem.
Speaker 3: It has been institutionalized to steal from the taxpayers. This
Speaker 3: has always been the case going back a long time.
Speaker 3: And once the government got together and things started to
Speaker 3: roll and things started to work, you know, we always
Speaker 3: had a flawed system. Capitalism is a flawed system. It's
Speaker 3: based in inequality and it's ultimately the corporations that the
Speaker 3: powerful elites will still run the system under capitalism. Same
Speaker 3: thing with socialism, same thing with communism. These are the
Speaker 3: three systems that the bankers give us and the royal
Speaker 3: and corporate aristocracy give us. So Trump is the solution
Speaker 3: to the problem that they created. But Trump's solution is
Speaker 3: the AI takeover.
Speaker 2: So Trump.
Speaker 3: From what I hear and I you know, you can't
Speaker 3: really trust the what you here because it's always wrong.
Speaker 3: It's always lies. Eight hundred billion was cut from medicaid,
Speaker 3: from those from that's from the social safety now to
Speaker 3: take care of the most poor, impoverished people, the most
Speaker 3: vulnerable in society. Eight hundred billion in cuts. We were
Speaker 3: sold bullshit that said, this is that we're taking people
Speaker 3: that aren't entitled to get this off those rolls so
Speaker 3: that there's more money for the people who need it.
Speaker 3: They had no intention of that. They had intention of
Speaker 3: using the excuse to make the cuts, to cut everybody's cut,
Speaker 3: to cut everybody's benefits. They took the fun the eight
Speaker 3: hundred billion, which is what I heard. It could be more,
Speaker 3: could be less than that. It's likely probably a little less,
Speaker 3: but it's hard to say. And they put and then
Speaker 3: Trump turned around with a with a stamp of you know, Congress,
Speaker 3: both sides went and put five hundred billion into the
Speaker 3: AI taker because it goes right into the hands of
Speaker 3: the most powerful eleads and the most power pul elites
Speaker 3: right now are the very people putting out the AI
Speaker 3: because they're going to be the kings and the queens
Speaker 3: running things. They're going to be at the very top,
Speaker 3: and they're going to be serving this rich oligarchy that
Speaker 3: is under the control of these extraterrestrials, and it's a
Speaker 3: top down system. It's Draco's and whatever else is up
Speaker 3: there running things you have, and it's like it's like
Speaker 3: a prison. You have a prison planet. You have the
Speaker 3: corporation that owns the private prison system. This is the
Speaker 3: you know, the corporate conglomerate that has merged with these
Speaker 3: extraterrestrial groups and has created this breakaway civilization and secret
Speaker 3: space program. They're running things and from the top down,
Speaker 3: they're controlling everyone all the way to the bottom, which
Speaker 3: is us. We're the sheep. Were the sheep, the flock,
Speaker 3: and we're a living natural resource to the ets and
Speaker 3: to the elites. So in order to call the population
Speaker 3: and control us, they need AI to come in to
Speaker 3: solve humanities problems. The AI will be promised to get
Speaker 3: rid of the pedophile problem. It'll be there to get
Speaker 3: rid of the waste, fraud and abuse. It'll be there
Speaker 3: to ensure that everything runs smoothly and efficiently. What it's
Speaker 3: really going to be there for is to target you
Speaker 3: and to put a ship in your brain and to
Speaker 3: monitor your thoughts so that as soon as you deviate
Speaker 3: from the official script and you start questioning things. You're
Speaker 3: going to have a government mentor, which will be AI
Speaker 3: speaking to you in your mind, telling you to stop,
Speaker 3: and if you don't, they're going to pay you a visit.
Speaker 3: If you don't listen then, or if you've done something
Speaker 3: went too far already, you're going to be taken and
Speaker 3: you're going to be put in prison for it and
Speaker 3: go and you're going to go through what they would
Speaker 3: refer to as re education, rehabilitation, because you're a threat
Speaker 3: to the system. You're a threat to your fellow citizens
Speaker 3: if you question the government, and that's always the claim
Speaker 3: of the fascist and the tyrants that run things. So
Speaker 3: that's where we're headed. And we're headed there on a
Speaker 3: speeding freight train and it keeps accelerating. There's just no
Speaker 3: end to the speed and efficiency that this keeps picking up,
Speaker 3: and the people keep laying down for it because everyone
Speaker 3: is preoccupied with trying to survive, including myself. I'm no
Speaker 3: longer sitting around sick and contemplating this stuff. I've got
Speaker 3: to contemplate this stuff, and I've got to try to
Speaker 3: survive in the system, so I have to you know,
Speaker 3: there may be a time when I have to watch
Speaker 3: what I say, if I say too much, you know,
Speaker 3: I can get in trouble with my job. And I've
Speaker 3: applied for a job and I've been given a position,
Speaker 3: but I haven't started yet. I have to go through
Speaker 3: training and it's potentially a position where you know, it
Speaker 3: can cause problems for me if I say something derogatory
Speaker 3: or out of character. Is it would have to be
Speaker 3: out of character for me to, you know, for really
Speaker 3: get to get in trouble. But just talking about these
Speaker 3: programs and talking about the corruption at the level I'm
Speaker 3: talking about, it will look quite bizarre to somebody in
Speaker 3: a position of authority that's not aware of any of
Speaker 3: this in his brainwashing, is looking at me, scrutinizing me
Speaker 3: and saying he's doing a job at his work. But
Speaker 3: you know, do we really want somebody talking like this
Speaker 3: working for us? You know, it's something to consider. It's
Speaker 3: what a lot of people have to deal with. And
Speaker 3: that's why some people in this community don't want to
Speaker 3: show their face. And I'm not talking about the guy
Speaker 3: with the airsoft helmet that by the way. I mean, look,
Speaker 3: I don't have a helmet here, but let me let
Speaker 3: me get a magazine. I want people to do an
Speaker 3: intellectual exercise. Okay, you see me on the camera and
Speaker 3: I'm talking right, But now, does this mean that the
Speaker 3: United States military can't determine who I am? And that
Speaker 3: I can say anything and expose anything that they're doing.
Speaker 3: But as long as I keep this over my face,
Speaker 3: does that mean they're not going to know who I am?
Speaker 3: It's absurd and I'd laugh about it myself, Rob. I mean,
Speaker 3: but for some people who aren't really thinking clearly, you know,
Speaker 3: they think that this is how you do it. You know,
Speaker 3: you just could look. The days where you can hide
Speaker 3: your face and distort your voice and go on TV
Speaker 3: and blow the whistle are over. They're over. They never
Speaker 3: really existed back then to the point where people thought
Speaker 3: that they were safe. It just doesn't work that way.
Speaker 3: They know exactly who you are, and if you're in
Speaker 3: these programs, it doesn't matter if you've got fine woodworking
Speaker 3: as your mask, or paintball helmet or airsoft, you're wearing
Speaker 3: a clown costume. It doesn't matter because they know exactly
Speaker 3: who you are. If you're in these programs, they can
Speaker 3: read your thoughts, they know what your heart rate is
Speaker 3: at all times, your entire physiology. Even down to a
Speaker 3: gas pain, a burp, fart, or an itch is being
Speaker 3: recorded by an AI system and they know everything about you.
Speaker 3: They know what you're saying, when you're saying it, and
Speaker 3: where you're saying it at. So no level of hiding
Speaker 3: your face is going to protect you. So when you know,
Speaker 3: when I see somebody making those claims, and then I
Speaker 3: see people after the mask comes off and they're like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, he's in danger, it's like, no, he
Speaker 3: already had a Facebook page prior to this. He was
Speaker 3: never private, but he never associated the two together. I'm
Speaker 3: talking about JP missions, and you know, it's just for
Speaker 3: the people like myself who know how this works, and
Speaker 3: you know, you know that you can't go anywhere on
Speaker 3: this planet and hide from this. They're going to get you.
Speaker 3: They've got you at the level of the soul, because
Speaker 3: that's what these programs are really about. The body is
Speaker 3: in material, it's just a vessel to get the job done.
Speaker 3: But it's really your soul that they aren't, that that
Speaker 3: they own, that they control. And when you hear somebody's
Speaker 3: testimony and it is completely devoid of of that emotional
Speaker 3: side of things, it's just in presentation mode. It's a
Speaker 3: red flag and you need to look at that, and
Speaker 3: you need to ask yourself, is this person legitimate? Okay,
Speaker 3: and you have to look at what they say over time.
Speaker 3: So another thing I think he said was is that
Speaker 3: three AI at list, which is what I talked about
Speaker 3: when Rob was going to the bathroom a little bit,
Speaker 3: is that it is full of it, and this could
Speaker 3: be somebody else's testimony if it is. I apologize I'm incorrect,
Speaker 3: but I think I'm right that they were Jedi admirals.
Speaker 3: And this of course coming now, we do know that
Speaker 3: a lot of the fiction that we get, comic books
Speaker 3: and things like that, have been some of those ideas,
Speaker 3: those concepts have been intentionally seeded into the people to
Speaker 3: create them, and that they were derived from people's actual
Speaker 3: program experience. Susan Long I think has a connection with
Speaker 3: a comic book character. I don't remember which one it is.
Speaker 3: But there's other people too. Now, these are people who
Speaker 3: are legitimate, and you know, they have a legitimate claim
Speaker 3: to what they're saying, and you know, there's a lot
Speaker 3: of similarities there if you compare the two. So it
Speaker 3: certainly does look like they've taken someone has seated this
Speaker 3: into the public. So why would they do stuff like that. Well,
Speaker 3: there's two sides, two ways to look at this. You
Speaker 3: could say, Okay, one side is is that the Luciferians
Speaker 3: are alleviating their their karmic guilt by telling you what
Speaker 3: you're doing. That's one of the things. And there's universal laws,
Speaker 3: like I said, of consent. So if you roll over
Speaker 3: a public, if you rule the world, and you roll
Speaker 3: over a lot of people and you're going to do
Speaker 3: something horrific to them, the Lafarians believe that if you
Speaker 3: tell the public what you're going to do to them
Speaker 3: in a veiled way to where it's not just you're
Speaker 3: not just direct spelling it out. You're like, you're not saying, hey,
Speaker 3: we're gonna poison all of you in mind control everybody
Speaker 3: and your kids are gonna be infertile, and you're gonna
Speaker 3: have birth effects and there's gonna be barely any people
Speaker 3: left in thirty or fifty years. That's our plan. Right. Meanwhile,
Speaker 3: we're gonna scare the death. We're gonna scare you to
Speaker 3: death about aliens and Russia's gonna get you, and we're
Speaker 3: gonna run all these sigh offs and States, terrorists, attacks,
Speaker 3: and you name it. They're not gonna tell you that.
Speaker 3: They're gonna give it to you in a subtle way.
Speaker 3: And a lot of times they'll let people who are
Speaker 3: whistleblowers talk just to alleviate that so called karmic penalty.
Speaker 3: You know, there's people that have given testimony that where
Speaker 3: they've acknowledged this and they said, the only reason I'm
Speaker 3: here to say this and I'm alive is because they
Speaker 3: want me to say it. Because they believe that if
Speaker 3: they tell the public what they're doing to them, they
Speaker 3: can alleviate some of this karmen. And you know that
Speaker 3: that's a legitimate that's a legitimate, truthful claim that's really happening.
Speaker 3: The other reason is is plausible deniability. You know, you
Speaker 3: go out and you say, hey, I've been in these programs,
Speaker 3: I've done all this stuff, and then a cartoon comic
Speaker 3: book character out of me, right, and you say that,
Speaker 3: and then the skeptics to just stay, you know, like,
Speaker 3: what's it. Steve, Steve Cambian of truth Seekers, he'll eat
Speaker 3: that set up. I mean he'll go right at it
Speaker 3: and say, Okay, this person read the comic book and
Speaker 3: they decided that they were going to grift and make
Speaker 3: a story up and make their self the comic book
Speaker 3: hero or the comic book villain. And then they went
Speaker 3: out and they gave their testimony, so that you know,
Speaker 3: they say, well, they're just taking test and that's the
Speaker 3: common that's the common claim about people like us, we
Speaker 3: read too much science fiction. Stranger Things was based on
Speaker 3: the mon talk testimony. Okay, but they're going to they'll
Speaker 3: flip that and say, well, you've been watching too much
Speaker 3: Stranger Things and you think you're actually part of that.
Speaker 3: That's fiction. So as you see that, there's different ways
Speaker 3: that they use this against us, even though there's truth
Speaker 3: in it. So even things that are truthful can be
Speaker 3: skewed twisted in such a way to where it looks
Speaker 3: like it's it's disinformation or that we're we're LARPing, or
Speaker 3: we're just we're living fantasies and we're mentally ill. We
Speaker 3: need that attention. There's people like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, one hundred percent. Man, I agree.
Speaker 4: It's a you couldn't have said it any better, you know,
Speaker 4: I know, it's great, it's great that you point that
Speaker 4: out that you know there are you know, I mean,
Speaker 4: it's it's it's a whole, it's it's insane, you know.
Speaker 2: Like so it's like where do we go from here?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, It's like, you know, where
Speaker 2: where do we go as a community like to.
Speaker 3: Like, you know, we just we have to stay true
Speaker 3: to ourselves and each other, and we have to keep
Speaker 3: doing the best job that we can and keep doing
Speaker 3: what we're doing. But we need to be more willing
Speaker 3: to point these problems out. The community fix itself until
Speaker 3: things are acknowledged. And the problem with this type of
Speaker 3: acknowledgement is that can create witch hunts. There's a lot
Speaker 3: of people that come into the community like myself, and
Speaker 3: they may say something maybe incorrect about their perceptions whatever
Speaker 3: it may be. Like in my case, was Project Ibis
Speaker 3: because the way the handlers were portraying IBIS, they're making
Speaker 3: it into something that probably wasn't. But what they were
Speaker 3: alluding to is there was other programs that came from
Speaker 3: Project Ibis, like the creation of the Joy of Satan
Speaker 3: cult as one example. It was used as kind of
Speaker 3: a catchment for some of the IBIS people as well,
Speaker 3: you know, and also people that they were It was
Speaker 3: a fishing, a psychic fishing expedition by these military groups
Speaker 3: to find people that you know, were worthy of being
Speaker 3: abducted or put into programs, or harassed or put turned
Speaker 3: into targeted individuals. So they created this cult, and they
Speaker 3: subconsciously programmed me in stage a variety of psychic events
Speaker 3: over years my life to funnel me into that group
Speaker 3: and then systematically destroy me and the people that I
Speaker 3: met there that were in the same boat as me.
Speaker 3: So I came into the community with this off the
Speaker 3: wall testimony because it wasn't what people were used to hearing,
Speaker 3: and they didn't, you know, and people heard IBIS as
Speaker 3: being part of it, and they're like, no, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: IBIS was this, and this is you know, it's time
Speaker 3: travel and so forth and so. But you know, the
Speaker 3: main part of a big portion of IBIS was Michael Aquino.
Speaker 3: And Michael Aquino was a big influence in the Joy
Speaker 3: of Satan theology. In fact, he was referenced a lot
Speaker 3: on the website and then the groups as being founder
Speaker 3: of the Temple of Credibility to the Satanist because he
Speaker 3: was in military intelligence. So I come in from that
Speaker 3: position and I'm like, look, and this is a whole
Speaker 3: area that's a problem virtual temple complexes where they take
Speaker 3: a mind controlled my Lab victim and they turned them
Speaker 3: into a new age or contact e channeling guru for
Speaker 3: the Galactic Federation, and they're not They think that they're
Speaker 3: talking to positive ets, but in fact they're talking to
Speaker 3: military operatives or negative ets working with the military. That
Speaker 3: isn't the case in every situation, but there's quite a
Speaker 3: bit of it out there, to the extent that it's
Speaker 3: quite damaging to the entire community and to and to
Speaker 3: the person involved and who's being put through that and
Speaker 3: being used that way, and anyone that is influenced by
Speaker 3: them is going to be pulled down a false rabbit
Speaker 3: hole and they're going to be brainwashed. I was heavily
Speaker 3: brainwashed for the period of time that I was in
Speaker 3: that cult, and it took a long time to deprogram
Speaker 3: from it. It wasn't easy, and you know, I tried
Speaker 3: helping other people, but it was you know, by the
Speaker 3: time that that group finished with them, they either had
Speaker 3: wu had nothing to do with the paranormal whatsoever, or
Speaker 3: they were completely completely destroyed as a person. And I
Speaker 3: ran into one of those victims, and there were others
Speaker 3: that I talked to as well people that just had
Speaker 3: been destroyed by that particular program that they were running.
Speaker 3: And they used all of the tools, all of the
Speaker 3: tricks in their toolbox that they have been using that
Speaker 3: the ET has been using in ancient times. They were
Speaker 3: using that tech and they were using voice to skull
Speaker 3: as well as different types of scaler EM and transmission
Speaker 3: systems to geosynchronous satellites like I've talked about on previous
Speaker 3: podcasts where they can remotely mind control you with scaler
Speaker 3: waves and also the clone where they have a clone
Speaker 3: of you and your tether to that clone, and that's
Speaker 3: another way to get to you without ever broadcasting anything.
Speaker 3: You can. You can put an em protective cap on
Speaker 3: or even a fair day cage. It's not going to
Speaker 3: make a difference with that tech passes all that because
Speaker 3: it's non electromagnetic in nature, so blocking it won't work.
Speaker 3: Sorry what we're on?
Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry. I was just coffin New Year here
Speaker 2: doing good man. This is really good. This is really
Speaker 2: good stuff. This is a good I think everybody needed
Speaker 2: to hear this, you know, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. And I'll take the heat because
Speaker 3: of it. I Mean, there's people that aren't gonna like
Speaker 3: hearing this. And there's people that are gonna say, well,
Speaker 3: he's not gonna be on my in my conference, or
Speaker 3: probably wouldn't be there anyway, or he's not gonna be
Speaker 3: on my podcast because he said these things. Well, that's fine.
Speaker 3: Somebody had to say it. I tried to say it
Speaker 3: as politely as I can. I have no animosity against
Speaker 3: anybody that's doing this or being used, or even just
Speaker 3: promoting theirselfs and not being honest with people, because there
Speaker 3: they need attention.
Speaker 2: I wanted to put this up by Jason. Let me
Speaker 2: tell me what you think of this?
Speaker 4: He says, what do you think about the theory that
Speaker 4: bt K is not this reality, that the voices come
Speaker 4: from a shadow world or parallel reality that called us
Speaker 4: the access It could be your unconscious. Well, from what
Speaker 4: we know, saft Sell International isn't in a parallel reality.
Speaker 4: Soft Cell is actually in this reality and they're there.
Speaker 4: I think v twok from there, right, But could it
Speaker 4: be coming from other dimensions as well?
Speaker 3: Like, yes, it can and it well, technically the way
Speaker 3: they would do it would be the clone with a
Speaker 3: tether that can go from one dimension to another. It
Speaker 3: has no range. The other form of tech needs a
Speaker 3: satellite or some other form of transmission. But what he's
Speaker 3: talking about is the deceptive spirits that have always played
Speaker 3: to humanity within the simulation and absolutely because before the
Speaker 3: military got involved with the extraterrestrials, the extraterrestrials were running
Speaker 3: their own programs on this planet, building pyramids or repurposing pyramids.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of these pyramids are repurposed, such
Speaker 3: as the Great Pyramid for example, they put new capstones
Speaker 3: on it. And those nubs that people wonder what they are,
Speaker 3: they're scalar transduction nubs. They're used to emit scalar waves
Speaker 3: and actually guide those waves across the inn your surface
Speaker 3: and kind of encapsulating the structure in a scalar wave
Speaker 3: form for mind control, or for enhanced psychic experiences, or
Speaker 3: for healing. Because scaler waves essentially are the fundamental building
Speaker 3: block or a fundamental wave form that literally creates our
Speaker 3: reality and our souls. It's essentially an energetic expression of
Speaker 3: the creator, and these waves become standing and they become
Speaker 3: our reality. So you're literally working with the waveform that
Speaker 3: manipulates reality, that makes reality. So when you can manipulate
Speaker 3: that and use that tech. It can do a lot
Speaker 3: of good, it can do a lot of bad. And
Speaker 3: just to add something so that people understand this, the
Speaker 3: pyramids pre existed before the Younger Driest event, most of
Speaker 3: them at least that we know of, especially the Pyramid,
Speaker 3: the Great Pyramid, and most of what we see in Egypt,
Speaker 3: and they were repurposed and there was a restoration project
Speaker 3: that was done on the Great Pyramid and the other
Speaker 3: ones that after the big flood happened, they had to
Speaker 3: they had to fix it because they were under water partially,
Speaker 3: and there's a water line on the Great Pyramid. There's
Speaker 3: salt that got into the structure, and there's actually fossilized
Speaker 3: seashells and things that are that are that are in
Speaker 3: the stone work that have been found. Also, you know,
Speaker 3: we know that a desert is created by a flood
Speaker 3: when the ocean covers the land and it recedes, it
Speaker 3: creates a desert, and that's exactly what Egypt was.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 3: It used to be a tropical or subtropical climate, but
Speaker 3: for a long time after since the Younger dryas event,
Speaker 3: it's been just a desert. So they had the repurpose
Speaker 3: those those stones now they also change the purpose of
Speaker 3: the pyramid to be a symbolic ritual type of ritualistic
Speaker 3: structure where a tomb was put a sarcophagus was put
Speaker 3: inside the king's chamber, and this was done during the
Speaker 3: restoration phase where they opened the peer up and they
Speaker 3: put this stuff in. That's why the timbers, the wood
Speaker 3: that's in the Great Pyramid has been carbon dated to
Speaker 3: be younger than the Younger Dryest event, which was around
Speaker 3: twelve to thirteen thousand years ago. The pyramid itself predates that,
Speaker 3: but the restoration work doesn't. It happened to post Younger dryas.
Speaker 3: That's why the carbon dating is different. It reports what
Speaker 3: the Egyptologists say because they're referring to not the construction
Speaker 3: but the restoration by the Arian factions, the Irian actual
Speaker 3: interrestrials that turn that pyramid and the other structures into
Speaker 3: mass mind control broadcasting systems. So they took essentially the
Speaker 3: tech that the government's using with the satellites and they
Speaker 3: turn it and they used it back then as a
Speaker 3: structure to broadcast mind control, which is scaler wave forms
Speaker 3: that are programmed to induce certain states and to rainful
Speaker 3: belief systems. Making their self gods. Ver So that tech
Speaker 3: that they've been using this entire time to create our
Speaker 3: religions or to shape them. After positive groups have come
Speaker 3: in and tried to inject positivity, like with Jesus and
Speaker 3: so forth, they come in and they distort it. But
Speaker 3: that tech is old, it's ancient. It's been used in
Speaker 3: every simulation program, every planet that they put under a simulation.
Speaker 3: You see a present in the architecture of Mars, the
Speaker 3: ruins of Mars. They look like the ruins of Earth.
Speaker 3: They represent you can see Mayan architecture, Egyptian architecture, and
Speaker 3: so on. This are these ruins represent a contained program
Speaker 3: that was used on Mars, just like it is here.
Speaker 3: They were suppressing the ancient Martian tech, the ancient Martian civilization.
Speaker 3: It's been remote viewed by farsight. This is where the
Speaker 3: face came from, and this is where the pyramids come from.
Speaker 3: Those pyramids on Mars may have been also repurpose too,
Speaker 3: But at some point towards the end of it, Mars
Speaker 3: was in a simulation and a false reality. More or less.
Speaker 3: They were worshiping extraterrestrial gods at the end, and that's
Speaker 3: why we see the matching symbology between our ruins and
Speaker 3: the ruins what we see on Mars, what they're at
Speaker 3: least allowing us to see, because if we had access
Speaker 3: to everything, it would be so much clearer, and we
Speaker 3: wouldn't even be having this discussion because a lot of
Speaker 3: these things would be taught in the academic circles. But unfortunately,
Speaker 3: we live essentially in a false reality, and the first
Speaker 3: layer of it is the is the false history, false religions,
Speaker 3: false belief systems, false political systems, and economic systems that
Speaker 3: keep us suppressed by keeping us in a slave mentality.
Speaker 3: We're always that, we're always we're always serving something. We're always,
Speaker 3: you know, we always have to give our power up
Speaker 3: to something else. And in order to get out of here,
Speaker 3: in order to go to heaven, they tell us we
Speaker 3: have to give our power over ourself up to a
Speaker 3: higher authority. And the extraterrestrials are more than happy to
Speaker 3: play that higher authority when they zap your ass after
Speaker 3: you die and they take away your memory of self,
Speaker 3: and you just wind up being in a dumb state
Speaker 3: where you're being intro where all these frequencies are hitting
Speaker 3: you and it's making it feel wonderful to go into
Speaker 3: that tunnel and to be with your loved ones. When
Speaker 3: you'll get none of that, You're just going to get
Speaker 3: a mind way. And like I said, said this earlier before,
Speaker 3: near death experiences have one uniform characteristic. We're not in control.
Speaker 3: That's not the way this world is supposed to be.
Speaker 3: It's not the way our reality is supposed to be.
Speaker 3: Why is it that extraterrestrials when they die, have full
Speaker 3: control over their afterlife, They have full control over their
Speaker 3: soul and we don't. Why are we in the state?
Speaker 3: And you have to ask yourself that who set this up?
Speaker 3: By definition, we're in a simulation, no matter if you
Speaker 3: think it's a school or if you think it's a prison,
Speaker 3: Because if you think it's a school, then we're in
Speaker 3: an augmented reality to learn, right, we're under a mind wight.
Speaker 3: Why can't we remember? Well, we're told it's for our
Speaker 3: best interest. Does it make sense if we're here to learn,
Speaker 3: why can't we remember?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: They tell us to be too detrimental to you if
Speaker 3: you remember, how could you come here and have a
Speaker 3: learning experience? This is what I was told by the
Speaker 3: military handlers massuating as ets how could you come here
Speaker 3: in an engineered lifetime under these circumstances. If you could
Speaker 3: remember who you were, you wouldn't want to be here,
Speaker 3: You would be fixated on going home. But this way,
Speaker 3: it feels like it's a fresh start, like you never
Speaker 3: had another lifetime before, and you can really get to
Speaker 3: your really get into yourself. You can really have this
Speaker 3: experience and get the most out of it. Well, I
Speaker 3: believe from an intuitive kind of memory, is that the
Speaker 3: Earth used to be just exactly for that this was
Speaker 3: the type of soul nursery, a place of learning, a
Speaker 3: place of experience that you could go to. It's an
Speaker 3: electromagnetic alternative universe to the real one, and you come
Speaker 3: here to have these these growth experience, these growth orientit experiences.
Speaker 3: The problem is is that at some point through that
Speaker 3: his history of that it was hijacked and became what
Speaker 3: it is now. And I believe that. I also believe
Speaker 3: that this universe, not just this planet, the entire universe,
Speaker 3: the electromagnetic universe as we know it, which is defined
Speaker 3: by the cosmic web. You know, that's like the lattice
Speaker 3: work of this this whole structure. It's electromagnetic, and you know,
Speaker 3: that's not in dispute scientifically, but that is a you know,
Speaker 3: this whole universe construct is an artificial creation, is not
Speaker 3: or it's not the real universe. It's not the real
Speaker 3: state of reality, the real baseline reality that we all
Speaker 3: belonged to and should be and it came from in
Speaker 3: the first place. So moving into the phase of the discussion,
Speaker 3: I guess we'll talk about waking up to this reality
Speaker 3: and what it can do for you and you know,
Speaker 3: so this is where I kind of crossed the line
Speaker 3: into the cult leader because people will say, oh, you're
Speaker 3: just creating another religion. No, I'm not. You know, I
Speaker 3: will completely be upfront with this when I tell you,
Speaker 3: if you're going to pick a religion, if I had
Speaker 3: to choose one, and I'm looking at everyone that was available,
Speaker 3: I would pick Christianity. But I would take the Bible,
Speaker 3: the bulk of it, and I would throw it out.
Speaker 3: We'd look at the New Testament and I look at that,
Speaker 3: and I look at some of the other stuff that look,
Speaker 3: you know, the stuff about the revelations and things like that.
Speaker 3: Because it has to do with this kind of scenario
Speaker 3: of deception and world government that we're actually going through
Speaker 3: right now. But I would focus on with Jesus said,
Speaker 3: the fundamental teachings of it, and I would toss out
Speaker 3: the rest of it because the rest of it is
Speaker 3: alien propaganda, tribal warfare, hatred, you know, oppressing women, making
Speaker 3: effeminatee men and killing them because they you know, they
Speaker 3: have an alternative lifestyle or what we call an alternative
Speaker 3: sexual orientation, Murdering lesbians, I mean, doing things like that,
Speaker 3: just being brutal, and that's not God. That that is
Speaker 3: the extraterrestrial presence putting rules, toxic rules and norms in
Speaker 3: society and creating the cesscal and miserable experience we have.
Speaker 3: It's to create infighting. We're never on the same page.
Speaker 3: That's why there's different religions and they contradict. But you know,
Speaker 3: I can get into all that and talk about that
Speaker 3: all day long, but I think, you know, the fundamental
Speaker 3: teachings of Jesus are very important. I think that's the
Speaker 3: codebreaker to the simulation itself, because the simulation is based
Speaker 3: in entropy. We live in a universe where suffering is
Speaker 3: you know, is just as prevalent as joy, happiness. It's
Speaker 3: it's to such a degree that the level of suffering
Speaker 3: is astronomical. We have super novas, we have catastrophic earth changes,
Speaker 3: we have pullshifts, we have impacts from asteroids, commons, we
Speaker 3: have all sorts of events in solar maximums, you know,
Speaker 3: coronal mass ejections in the sun that damaged crops and
Speaker 3: killed people on the surface of the monet. All of
Speaker 3: these things are not what you would expect if there
Speaker 3: was a loving creator that designed this world, this universe,
Speaker 3: this entire reality for us to live in and grow
Speaker 3: and grow and prosper and learn to love one another
Speaker 3: in harmony. This is not the environment. Extreme forced entropy
Speaker 3: does not promote spiritual growth. It literally promotes the birth
Speaker 3: of evil and the perpetuation of usury. And you know,
Speaker 3: that's a term that is kind of as a limited
Speaker 3: scope to it, but we've got to expand it as
Speaker 3: to any type of using another being as a slave
Speaker 3: or as a livestock. That type of environment. It creates
Speaker 3: cruelty and it spawns evil. And what it does is
Speaker 3: in order to survive, you need hierarchy. So what do
Speaker 3: we do. What first thing we do is is we
Speaker 3: start organizing our culture, and we start using animals as
Speaker 3: slaves and when that's not enough, we have people as slaves.
Speaker 3: And when it's not enough to contain the slaves and
Speaker 3: keep them as prisoners, we then have to create a
Speaker 3: system called capitalism, which then dangles a carrot in front
Speaker 3: of the slave, and so that the slave has the
Speaker 3: illusion of upward mobility in the class system, but they
Speaker 3: really don't have it. It's an illusion. And they create
Speaker 3: something called debt and a banking system, so you're always
Speaker 3: in debt to the banks. You never have total freedom,
Speaker 3: you're always trying to keep ahead of the bill collector.
Speaker 3: So when you have a system like that, and it's
Speaker 3: so clear, because when you think outside the simulation, itself
Speaker 3: outside the box, as they say, it's so easy to
Speaker 3: see that we're in a slave system, that we're in
Speaker 3: a system that is not designed for spiritual growth. It's
Speaker 3: not designed to reinforce loving relationships. It's designed to exploit
Speaker 3: and extract energy. It's a loose farm. And that's what
Speaker 3: we've got. So what do we do about that? And
Speaker 3: you know, we have to deprogram I mean the ets.
Speaker 3: You know. The problem I have is with a lot
Speaker 3: of people who and I was one of these people,
Speaker 3: you know, and for me, I believe it was. It
Speaker 3: was false. False, it was there was false memory implants,
Speaker 3: there was false there was influencing that was false. I
Speaker 3: was fed a bill of goods that I was the extraterrestrial,
Speaker 3: I was here, it was an engineered lifetime, and so
Speaker 3: on and so forth. So you get that, and then
Speaker 3: you get people who say, Okay, well, this is a
Speaker 3: slave planet, it's a prison, but you're part of this
Speaker 3: ET group and you're here to enlighten the public and
Speaker 3: do this mission. And I think you know, there's truth
Speaker 3: in all lot of this, but it's also used against us.
Speaker 3: And then the failed presentation I tried to do at
Speaker 3: the conference that got deleted a half hour before I
Speaker 3: went on stage. The premise of it was was to
Speaker 3: demonstrate that I had remembered that I had been looped
Speaker 3: back in a reincarnation cycle two or more lifetimes under
Speaker 3: the same lie. And and the lie was that I
Speaker 3: had a life mission that I had to carry out
Speaker 3: and that I was doing it for the first time,
Speaker 3: even though I had been looped back and reincarnated under
Speaker 3: that premise before and never allowed to do it. So
Speaker 3: in this lifetime that was utilized to suppress me because
Speaker 3: I began to wake up. This was the first lifetime
Speaker 3: to my knowledge that they've had me in their custody
Speaker 3: where I've actually woken up to this point. So this
Speaker 3: is the point that's critical for the handlers because this
Speaker 3: is the point, like for many of us, we can
Speaker 3: get out of the situation. So for those people that
Speaker 3: think that they belong in an extraterrestrial with with with
Speaker 3: other ets, whether it be the ones they're communicating with,
Speaker 3: you know, whatever the case is, I have to warn them.
Speaker 3: You know, that may be the case, But really, do
Speaker 3: you really want to go back to that because if
Speaker 3: that world and there's that group, that et group plays
Speaker 3: by the same rules as this world does, which means
Speaker 3: it plays by the same rules as the Draco and
Speaker 3: the Palladians and all of these groups that are coming
Speaker 3: here good or bad. They're constantly at war, constant conflicts,
Speaker 3: there's constant problems. Do you really want to continue to
Speaker 3: exist in that existence?
Speaker 2: That question?
Speaker 3: I don't personally? Yeah, exactly, Rob you know that's the
Speaker 3: right answer. No, you don't, because it plays by the
Speaker 3: same exact rules that we have here on the ground.
Speaker 3: And it's the old saying goes as above, so below
Speaker 3: so what do you do? How do you get out
Speaker 3: of this? I think really you have to deprogrem in yourself,
Speaker 3: and I think that the only way to get out
Speaker 3: of this situaituation. We're not going to get out of
Speaker 3: this waiting for saviors. Okay, there may be a point
Speaker 3: in time, and there has to be some resolution of
Speaker 3: this in the future. Could be a long time now
Speaker 3: that this planet is taken back and is no longer
Speaker 3: a prison, and that the people here can at least
Speaker 3: live within the political or the exopolitical realm of all
Speaker 3: of these different et groups and at least they could
Speaker 3: have some control over their own destiny and their and
Speaker 3: their and their souls. That would be great. That's a
Speaker 3: big step forward, but isn't really a total solution of
Speaker 3: the problem, because even if we got to that point,
Speaker 3: you're still subject to an invasion again. You're still subject
Speaker 3: to having your planet attacked, and that happens over and
Speaker 3: over again. In this universe. This is a nasty place.
Speaker 3: It's from three D to five D. There is all
Speaker 3: of this entropy, all of this misery, And the problem
Speaker 3: is why this is so abnormal, is that in the
Speaker 3: real universe, this is what I believe, because this is
Speaker 3: what I've been remembering on a very and an intuitive,
Speaker 3: instinctual level, is that we're not meant to have forced
Speaker 3: entropy between three D and five D. It should be
Speaker 3: voluntary entropy because these realms, these levels of density, are
Speaker 3: designed for growth. They're designed so you can you can
Speaker 3: come back to this if you want to get a
Speaker 3: tune up. You can come back here and experience this,
Speaker 3: and you can sit by the campfire again, and you
Speaker 3: can hunt deer and you can make spears and whatever
Speaker 3: you want. Or you can live in a primitist civilization.
Speaker 3: You just got to you just deal with the problems.
Speaker 3: Smelly feet, they had, breast, our ass, crack, all of
Speaker 3: the things that you get in this environment, all of
Speaker 3: the stuff that plague, everything that everybody has to go through,
Speaker 3: combined with all of the good stuff. And you pit
Speaker 3: in this mic all of the good stuff. You know
Speaker 3: that the triumph over hardships, the accomplishment that it takes,
Speaker 3: like just building like this fine woodworking magazine, right, if
Speaker 3: you build stuff out of this, Okay, it's it really
Speaker 3: is therapy for the soul. It's therapy for the mind.
Speaker 3: It's you know, art, things like that things that you
Speaker 3: could easily create at the higher density levels without any effort,
Speaker 3: Like I want to I want a beautiful armois, you
Speaker 3: can manifest it, you know. I want to have a
Speaker 3: giant tree out front. I want to grow a far
Speaker 3: I want to do whatever I want to do. The
Speaker 3: reality is more fluid. So you come to a place
Speaker 3: a realm of density like this, and you can you
Speaker 3: can have these incredible experiences that you wouldn't be able
Speaker 3: to have at a higher density level. So it's a
Speaker 3: place of learning, but it's not a place to force entropy.
Speaker 3: It's not supposed to be what I mean by forced
Speaker 3: entropy in this world. If you're in an extreme state
Speaker 3: of suffering, you've got terminal cancer, you've got a year
Speaker 3: to live in your bedroom, and you're being eaten up
Speaker 3: by this stuff. You're now four or five months from death.
Speaker 3: You should have the option at your will to leave
Speaker 3: your body, exit it permanently, and move on, not be
Speaker 3: trapped in it. Not be trapped in it fearing death
Speaker 3: because you don't have any recollection of what happens after death.
Speaker 3: All you know is what you've heard, and frankly it's
Speaker 3: quite scary. So you don't want to die, so you
Speaker 3: hold on to the misery, you suffer to the last
Speaker 3: bitter end, and then you die. And then once you die,
Speaker 3: you're at the mercy of these beings and you don't
Speaker 3: know who they are, and they masquerade as being good
Speaker 3: and holy of God and the angels and everything. But
Speaker 3: then we find out when we remote you this, and
Speaker 3: then when people like myself start to remember, you know,
Speaker 3: and we start talking, you find out that this isn't God,
Speaker 3: that this isn't angels. This is a type of AI
Speaker 3: transdimensional containment system with the soul that uses deception and coersion,
Speaker 3: emotional hooks, all sorts of different ways of deceiving you
Speaker 3: to hook you back in and get you to commit
Speaker 3: to another life. So it's engineering consent out of you.
Speaker 3: And this is what I was talking about the presentation,
Speaker 3: And you know, this is what forced entry y is.
Speaker 3: It's not supposed to be this way. We should have
Speaker 3: control over our memories now, you know, in an environment
Speaker 3: like as you can get the most benefit from not
Speaker 3: remembering and having amnesia, but it shouldn't be to the
Speaker 3: level that it's a detriment to you. And that's where
Speaker 3: we're at now. The amnesia level of the population is
Speaker 3: so strong, it's so ingrained ins that is, it is
Speaker 3: a detriment to our survival. We can't remember the lessons
Speaker 3: of our past lives, and we can't remember the past
Speaker 3: history of the planet. We can't remember that we've been
Speaker 3: recycled over and over again using deception, because if we did,
Speaker 3: the entire gig would be up. This whole thing would
Speaker 3: be blown wide open, and the consent would end. And
Speaker 3: when the consent ends, that's when the power ends of
Speaker 3: the scumbags that have control over it. They only have
Speaker 3: control with their technology because we give them consent. And
Speaker 3: that's because we can't remember. But what do remember is
Speaker 3: this reality that we're conditioned to accept as being the
Speaker 3: only reality that there is. And that's where the problem is.
Speaker 3: Because when you say, well, how do I get out
Speaker 3: of this? Okay, I don't have many options. If you're
Speaker 3: remember being an ET and you'll know that, you'll say
Speaker 3: to yourself, this world sucks. I got to get out
Speaker 3: of here. But then I'm going to go back to
Speaker 3: a plant that's dealing with a lot of the same problems. Okay,
Speaker 3: but the least it's easier. At least I don't have
Speaker 3: to age or you know, I don't have all these
Speaker 3: diseases and I have control at least, so it's very appealing.
Speaker 3: My point of view is is that that is just
Speaker 3: a looser level of a simulation. It's just a looser
Speaker 3: form of a prison because the extraterrestrials apparently don't even
Speaker 3: know that they're in some type of construct their self.
Speaker 3: They're caught up in this entropy, and I think the
Speaker 3: way out of this is deprogramming. I think we have fundamentally,
Speaker 3: actually we probably have the best option in the here
Speaker 3: and now being where we're at to get out of this,
Speaker 3: even more so than the ETS do, because you know
Speaker 3: the ETS, I mean, everybody that's got memories tied to
Speaker 3: an extraterrestrial civilization, they're going to have those emotional connections
Speaker 3: to it. So for them, they don't know that there's
Speaker 3: anything else beyond this. For them, the next thing, the
Speaker 3: next best thing, the best place to go is for
Speaker 3: their heaven is back to their home planet and to
Speaker 3: get out of this prison planet. And that is a big,
Speaker 3: huge move forward. But you have to ask yourself what
Speaker 3: got me here in the first place. Did I come
Speaker 3: here voluntarily or was I captured? And put here as
Speaker 3: a prisoner. Was I tricked to come here? Did I
Speaker 3: commit crimes?
Speaker 2: What did I do?
Speaker 3: Obviously we've all done something to piss somebody off to
Speaker 3: be here, unless we came here on some mission that
Speaker 3: led us to not get out, And that seems to
Speaker 3: be the case for a lot of people. You come
Speaker 3: here and you can't get out, and you know it's
Speaker 3: a big problem. Now I've recognized that there's something more
Speaker 3: to each and every one of us because I've connected
Speaker 3: with that part of myself. That part of myself is
Speaker 3: not an extraterrestrial, it's an ultradimensional. It's a person of
Speaker 3: an entire consciousness, a lattice work of selves that exists
Speaker 3: on all timelines, essentially all dimensions. It is basically one
Speaker 3: being experiencing everything. But it's in the neutrino universe or
Speaker 3: the source feel, if you want to call it that.
Speaker 3: It's the heaven that people theorize and exists. They feel
Speaker 3: it in their heart there's a better place, And when
Speaker 3: somebody dies they say, I know that my grandmother, my mother,
Speaker 3: my father, my sister, my brother, my friend is in
Speaker 3: a better place now because they passed away. I know
Speaker 3: that my pet, my loving dog or cat or fish
Speaker 3: or hamster or whatever snake or lizard is in a
Speaker 3: better place. They're no longer in this place. Because no
Speaker 3: one is going to say this is great. No one
Speaker 3: can say that our conception, our perception or conception of Hell,
Speaker 3: what we conceive to be Hell, is based on things
Speaker 3: that we've experienced or heard about or so other people
Speaker 3: go through here on this planet. That's all Hell is,
Speaker 3: just more condensed version. It's all of those are is
Speaker 3: put into one place, and that's Hell. So that's you know,
Speaker 3: that's the way it's always depicted. Now, if you're a Catholic,
Speaker 3: it's kind of depicted like you're having like erotic, kinky
Speaker 3: sex with demons. Every time there's an artwork for the
Speaker 3: Catholic Church depict the Hell, it's always sexual oriented, you know,
Speaker 3: because they're very big on suppressing human sexuality, because it's
Speaker 3: a great guilt generator. If you can suppress and one
Speaker 3: of the most powerful urges that human beings have, like
Speaker 3: just as powerful as eating and drinking and sleeping, you
Speaker 3: can get a grip on them. If you can make
Speaker 3: somebody feel guilty about having to eat and drink and breathe.
Speaker 3: There man you've really got them. But sex is one
Speaker 3: of those things that you can, you know, you can
Speaker 3: try to get, you make somebody try to stop out
Speaker 3: of guilt and fear. They won't be able to do
Speaker 3: it completely, but when they do, they'll be completely screwed up.
Speaker 3: And you've got control. So you know, it's just we
Speaker 3: live in a very sick system. What you need to
Speaker 3: do is you need to deprogram from it. So you know,
Speaker 3: I would say this. One of the ways that they
Speaker 3: used as a deceptive, a very clever way to deceive
Speaker 3: me that they used, was that I began to wake
Speaker 3: up early on and I began to realize that there
Speaker 3: was something something about this experience. I noticed that it
Speaker 3: was engineered. But what I was going through, somebody was
Speaker 3: controlling it. Somebody had control over my perceptions. Somebody was
Speaker 3: affecting me. Somebody was turning on psychic abilities and then
Speaker 3: turning them back off. All of my life about my childhood,
Speaker 3: my adolescens, and my adulthood, and I was in a
Speaker 3: quest I had to find out who they were, and
Speaker 3: so I began to realize through that pursuit that I
Speaker 3: was in an engineered lifetime. I didn't call it an
Speaker 3: engineered lifetime. But I knew that somebody was pulling the
Speaker 3: strings behind the scenes, and that there was points in
Speaker 3: time where I was made sick, and there was points
Speaker 3: in time where I was healed miraculously. And I saw
Speaker 3: it with people directly connected to me that I was
Speaker 3: dependent on, such as my grandmother, who nearly died several
Speaker 3: times and was brought back through psychic healings. And I
Speaker 3: was privy to every one of these experiences, and so
Speaker 3: was she, to the point where we both knew that
Speaker 3: there was some external force acting on her body to
Speaker 3: help her, even communicating with her, and then of course
Speaker 3: showing me that they were there. And I don't necessarily
Speaker 3: credit that to the negatives, because I think I did
Speaker 3: get some positive help, but the positive help that I've
Speaker 3: always got and has stayed away from me. When it
Speaker 3: comes to communicating, they do not associate, they do not communicate,
Speaker 3: They do things at a distance. I've never had positive
Speaker 3: et contact. I've never had positive contact with spirit guides.
Speaker 3: I've never had any of those experiences that other people
Speaker 3: go through, and I wonder why that is, and I
Speaker 3: can the only the only conclusion I could come up
Speaker 3: with is either one there is no positive spirit guides,
Speaker 3: and there is no positive ets, and there's no angel.
Speaker 3: It's it's all AI and its deceptions. You know, that
Speaker 3: isn't I don't want to go with that because I
Speaker 3: don't think that's accurate. That would that would insinuate that
Speaker 3: there's nobody out there on the outside of this planet
Speaker 3: who cares about us, and we're all you're just we're
Speaker 3: just all abandoned. So I don't believe that. I believe
Speaker 3: this is seen as from the outside looking in, as
Speaker 3: an unjust prison. This is a massive rights violation. I'd
Speaker 3: say human rights, but this is transcendence to human form.
Speaker 3: This is a a direct violation to the full. This
Speaker 3: is violating your soul's rights. That's what this place is.
Speaker 3: And I think that there's a lot of beings people
Speaker 3: out there in this universe that want this to come
Speaker 3: to an end. So I'm not going to accept that
Speaker 3: there's not positives out there. But the only logical conclusion
Speaker 3: then is to say that you know, either one of
Speaker 3: you know, the bad guys kept them away, which I
Speaker 3: know they didn't. I know that they don't have that
Speaker 3: much power, and I know that if they did, it
Speaker 3: would be based in my consent of it, and now
Speaker 3: that they're not getting consent, they're still not coming around.
Speaker 3: So I have ultimately I concluded essentially that my life
Speaker 3: mission was to come in here and just act on
Speaker 3: my own, just to see how far I could get
Speaker 3: by myself. And at key points in my life when
Speaker 3: I was headed to in a direction that would condemn
Speaker 3: me to being here not being able to fulfill my destiny,
Speaker 3: I fulfill my purpose. The external forces that were positive
Speaker 3: they're on my side, stepped in in a passive way,
Speaker 3: or not so much passive, but a way that they
Speaker 3: weren't directly connecting with me, and the only time that
Speaker 3: I had any communication was from the negatives posing and
Speaker 3: posing is the positive side. So it's a bit frustrating
Speaker 3: because you know, I asked often, like you know, I
Speaker 3: often feel abandoned as to why I don't get the
Speaker 3: positive contact. And what I had to conclude was, and really,
Speaker 3: you know, I had to find the strength and side
Speaker 3: to accept the fact that I'm on my own for
Speaker 3: the most part, and I'm on my own not because
Speaker 3: I've been abandoned, but because those who were on my
Speaker 3: side navigating for me to get.
Speaker 2: Out of this.
Speaker 3: No full well that I just liked the lion, and
Speaker 3: you know what, the scarecrow and the ten man, they
Speaker 3: all had the skills to get out, and you know,
Speaker 3: they all had those attributes that they were desiring to
Speaker 3: have to be whole beings. I have the ability to
Speaker 3: get out of here because I've done it before, and
Speaker 3: for me, this is just like a military operation. Go in,
Speaker 3: collect data and get the hell out, and to try
Speaker 3: to influence other people while I'm here for you know,
Speaker 3: and to wake them up to what's going on, because
Speaker 3: this is a hell hole and it needs to be exposed.
Speaker 3: And people need to stop letting things slide, because we
Speaker 3: can't let any of this slide anymore. Were being poisoned,
Speaker 3: we're being murdered, we're being destroyed and controlled, we're being exploited,
Speaker 3: and you know this is we have to take this seriously.
Speaker 3: The way to get out of this is the deprogram
Speaker 3: yourself from every aspect of the civilization, every aspect of
Speaker 3: this so called reality that we're in. This is you know,
Speaker 3: you have to look at it. You got to blend
Speaker 3: theology with the science and put it all together because
Speaker 3: it's all relevant. Theology tells us on one side, they
Speaker 3: say there's an Earth, there's a physical plane. Okay, it's
Speaker 3: the Earth. And if you add science and awareness of
Speaker 3: what's out there, because religion is more earth centered, if
Speaker 3: you look at the cosmos, you could say, well, okay,
Speaker 3: that's the physical plane too. So this is the physical universe. Okay.
Speaker 3: Well religion teaches us that there's a physical universe, then okay,
Speaker 3: But there's also another reality that's the true reality. That's
Speaker 3: the real reality. Like this is just a place to
Speaker 3: go to have this kind of experience, and if that's
Speaker 3: the case, we can go back to that true reality.
Speaker 3: So where is that? And it appears to be from
Speaker 3: the science and the things that I've seen in the
Speaker 3: research that I've done, as well as the instinctual memory.
Speaker 3: Once I find something, I realize that I've got something,
Speaker 3: it resonates with me in a physical way. It's not
Speaker 3: just like okay, that makes sense, No, I feel it.
Speaker 3: I feel it physically. It's an emotion. It's a sensation
Speaker 3: in my body. It radiates like it's energy. It radiates
Speaker 3: through my chest, through my throat. Sometimes I'll get emotional,
Speaker 3: sometimes I'll shed tears. But you know, I see these
Speaker 3: things and what I've seen was is we live. We
Speaker 3: we essentially live in a parallel to kind of like
Speaker 3: a dual universe. We have an electromagnetic universe, which is
Speaker 3: everything that we see and perceive, and then we have
Speaker 3: a neutrino universe. We just completely neutrally charged, so it
Speaker 3: doesn't have any of the what we think are the
Speaker 3: laws of physics, what we're told, which is a false doctrine.
Speaker 3: It's it's another form of the augmented reality that you know,
Speaker 3: there's there's no energy outside of you know, the laws
Speaker 3: of con energy, conservation and so on, and we're fed
Speaker 3: all these things. You can't go faster in the speed
Speaker 3: of light, stuff like that, you know, and and and
Speaker 3: and we're told this is it. We have to shed that.
Speaker 3: I think fundamentally, if you want to get yourself out
Speaker 3: of this, you have to stop thinking in the terms
Speaker 3: that you've been given because they've been given to you
Speaker 3: by people or beings that have been deceived themselves. Evil
Speaker 3: beings that are evil are not innately evil by nature.
Speaker 3: Every evil person thinks that they're doing something good, regardless
Speaker 3: if they know that they're doing something terrible. They always
Speaker 3: look at it as as the end justifies the means
Speaker 3: Hitler's final solution was genocide, but in his mind and
Speaker 3: in the people who followed him, it was for a
Speaker 3: good reason. They were making the right decision. They weren't
Speaker 3: in reality, but they believe that. They didn't think they
Speaker 3: were the bad guys. They thought that the Alliance, the
Speaker 3: other nations were the bad guys, and the Jewish people
Speaker 3: were the bad guys. So, you know, evil is based
Speaker 3: in deception. It's a distortion of reality. And when you
Speaker 3: have entropy and you need hierarchy, hierarchy comes next to
Speaker 3: cope with the entropy. That's when lies begin to be spread.
Speaker 3: And if you don't have telepathy, if you don't have
Speaker 3: the ability to discern the truth and you can't sense
Speaker 3: it or read somebody's mind, then anything could be. Anything
Speaker 3: can be told to anyone as long as it's being
Speaker 3: presented as truth, it's being it looks real, it looks factual.
Speaker 3: People are gonna believe it because they have no way
Speaker 3: to check, especially if you're controlling information. So essentially what
Speaker 3: the government has done and always, you know, the et
Speaker 3: influence has always been before, even when there's before there
Speaker 3: was technology and a technocracy forming like we have now.
Speaker 3: We had kings and queens. We you know, we had
Speaker 3: the monarchy system and other types of systems and going back,
Speaker 3: you know, before young or dry as we have more
Speaker 3: advanced civilizations, but we've always been under this kind of
Speaker 3: false reality. You know, we're where the leaders dictate reality
Speaker 3: to us. Because were not telepathic on this planet. Our
Speaker 3: genetics have been modified. We are in a body that
Speaker 3: is genetically modified to where only certain people or psychic
Speaker 3: or have low level abilities because it's genetically controlled. There's
Speaker 3: bloodlines and by the way, my bloodline for those people
Speaker 3: who are wondering I found out today the Red Cross
Speaker 3: called me and asked me and if asked if I
Speaker 3: wanted to make a donation, and I said, by the way,
Speaker 3: what is my blood type? It's a negative. So people
Speaker 3: are psychically inclined. We're in these programs are not always
Speaker 3: the same blood type, you know, it's any blood type
Speaker 3: because it isn't just limited to blood type. There's too
Speaker 3: much emphasis put on that there's something to do with
Speaker 3: certain blood types are used for certain programs by the
Speaker 3: ETS and also by the military after the fact. But anyone,
Speaker 3: if any blood type could be in these in these
Speaker 3: my lab programs or psychic and the psychic blood lines
Speaker 3: were always there. They've all always been managed because what
Speaker 3: would happen is in incient times, when a child was
Speaker 3: born in a family and that child exhibited psychic abilities,
Speaker 3: they refer to it as a gift from the god.
Speaker 3: So then you know a lot of these cases, like
Speaker 3: in Egypt and different cultures where they've had these megalithic
Speaker 3: temple complexes and the ets were there playing gods over everyone.
Speaker 3: You know, it was customary to take that child with
Speaker 3: those gifts, so called gifts, they're really your psychic birthright.
Speaker 3: They're not gifts. They're who you are. They've been taking
Speaker 3: from you and then given back to you at a tiny,
Speaker 3: tiny little sliver of it's been given back to you,
Speaker 3: and then we're told that this is gifts from the gods. Right,
Speaker 3: what it is. It's like stealing something and in giving back.
Speaker 3: It's like I steal one hundred bucks from ye, Rob,
Speaker 3: and I give you back ten dollars and I say, Rob,
Speaker 3: here's a gift for you. Don't you love me, I
Speaker 3: care about you, Here's ten dollars, even though I just
Speaker 3: told one hundred from you. Okay, So they're not really
Speaker 3: gifts but it was customary to give that child over
Speaker 3: to the priesthood there, you know, the religious leaders and
Speaker 3: the religion, and then you'd raise you in a temple
Speaker 3: and you'd be brought from the priesthood and and and
Speaker 3: so on and so forth. And this is what these
Speaker 3: psychic bloodlines were used for in any ancient past. They
Speaker 3: were used to be the ancient priesthood, the influential class
Speaker 3: of people were used. And if they weren't, if somebody
Speaker 3: didn't make it into that level of use by the
Speaker 3: ets and the system suppression, uh in social engineering, they
Speaker 3: were then used kind of as a secondary you know,
Speaker 3: the wandering prophet, the sage, the the the you know,
Speaker 3: the witch doctor, the shaman and so forth, the healer
Speaker 3: and so there's a variety of ways that we've all
Speaker 3: been utilized in past lifetimes. And you see that today
Speaker 3: in a new age community, the spiritual community, in even
Speaker 3: a Christian community, they have people that you know, do prayer,
Speaker 3: healings and things and and there's tangible results. And we
Speaker 3: saw that at the conference, you know, how do we
Speaker 3: have There was a room with people who were psychically inclined.
Speaker 3: They're offering services and it's it's a real phenomenon. The
Speaker 3: thing is, though, is that this is the way we're
Speaker 3: being used in the in the modern times, when unfortunately,
Speaker 3: we're also being used to socially influence the rest of
Speaker 3: the population by spreading et propaganda, which we think is
Speaker 3: truthful because we mean, well, we're being deceived. So those
Speaker 3: people that are being used are victims too. You know,
Speaker 3: they may they may act the fool they may act jealous,
Speaker 3: and they may do things that we don't like, and
Speaker 3: they may be working against us our purpose of disclosure,
Speaker 3: even though they think they're helping. There's still people they
Speaker 3: deserve forgiveness and they deserve second, third, fourth, hundred chances.
Speaker 3: But you know, they're victims too, But they utilizes that
Speaker 3: like that, And unfortunately we're also utilized as slaves and
Speaker 3: put into these programs and use off planet and humanity
Speaker 3: has been used as a soul farm. This is a
Speaker 3: place where they put people, keep them as prisoner. It's
Speaker 3: an indefinite recycling system. Some get out because they let
Speaker 3: them out, some escape because they wake up and they
Speaker 3: figure out how to get out, and some are rescued.
Speaker 3: But for the most part, the population keeps growing and
Speaker 3: growing and growing and periodically there's a complete planetary reset
Speaker 3: because the controllers need to bring us back to the
Speaker 3: Stone Age in order to reduce population control, control the people,
Speaker 3: especially if they're waking up. Now, what if on the
Speaker 3: planet Mars, after they've set up all of these religions
Speaker 3: and built these monuments and created, you know, and set
Speaker 3: the whole social system up like they have here, that
Speaker 3: the public began waking up and they had a mass
Speaker 3: awakening taking place on the planet. People began questioning who
Speaker 3: the ets were and eventually they've lost control of the population,
Speaker 3: so they nuke the planet. They sterilized the surface and
Speaker 3: blew the atmosphere off. That is very much what we
Speaker 3: could be seeing when we look at Mars, because we
Speaker 3: do know that there's evidence of a massive nuclear cataclysmic event.
Speaker 3: If you look at the evidence, there's trinotite. There's a
Speaker 3: big burn spot on Mars. Sand fused a glass, which
Speaker 3: is what we call trinotite, which was found at the
Speaker 3: nuclear test areas where the where the literally the sand
Speaker 3: was fused into a greenish colored I think I think
Speaker 3: it was greenish color, but it's a glassy radioactive material.
Speaker 3: So we have that we have radioactive isotopes that are
Speaker 3: not naturally occurring on Mars. I think it's xenon one
Speaker 3: twenty one or what twenty three, forget exactly, but these
Speaker 3: but these radioactive compounds are nuclear weapons grade. We see
Speaker 3: massive destruction. If you look at the pictures of Mars,
Speaker 3: what you see is is you you see it literally
Speaker 3: looks like the bedrock has been blown away, sent up
Speaker 3: in the air and then drop down in semi liquid
Speaker 3: molten state or just solid state, and just literally rocks
Speaker 3: littered everywhere. The only place that we even see that
Speaker 3: on this planet is is it what is it called?
Speaker 2: It?
Speaker 3: Is it the if I say this right, is it
Speaker 3: the rorshack uh formation RB, you know the one that's
Speaker 3: in northern Africa when the leave it's the western northern
Speaker 3: northwestern Africa. Is it the Rorsch or Warshack or something.
Speaker 3: It's that big spiral that's cut into the earth. You know.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'm not sure, but I know what
Speaker 2: you're talking about.
Speaker 3: I'm not They call it it's the Hara, but it's
Speaker 3: it's pronounced. It's spelled with an R, I believe, and
Speaker 3: I don't know how it's pronounced, but it's when when
Speaker 3: when farm I did the remote viewing on that before
Speaker 3: they released the actual results. I had a vision of
Speaker 3: what it was. I saw a large pyramid structure in
Speaker 3: the center of it. It was a pyramid complex. Well,
Speaker 3: when they remote viewed it, that's what they found. It
Speaker 3: was a large pyramid complex and they had this really
Speaker 3: big pyramid in the middle that had all these special effects.
Speaker 3: I think they even may have said that there was
Speaker 3: kind of like colored lights and steam or something something.
Speaker 3: It was very weird. It was like space mountain or something.
Speaker 3: But they had a lot of a lot of like
Speaker 3: mind control oriented type of effects, and I would say
Speaker 3: alien stage craft to really get to really control the
Speaker 3: population using religion. And another extraterrestrial group came in after
Speaker 3: the fact and used the type of a type of
Speaker 3: weapons system that literally just zapped the bedrock and blew
Speaker 3: it up, creating that spiral configuration, and people mistakenly called
Speaker 3: land it wasn't Atlantis, and they say that because it's
Speaker 3: spiral shape, so maybe this was Atlantis, but it really isn't.
Speaker 3: It was a large temple complex that was blown up
Speaker 3: by a different et group terminating the program. Just like
Speaker 3: they came in and they blew up pyramids in Egypt,
Speaker 3: just like you know some of the other areas of
Speaker 3: the of you know, the world that were unearthing where
Speaker 3: there appears to be blown where something has been blown
Speaker 3: up and there's extreme heat, you see vitrification of rock
Speaker 3: and structures. This may be evidence of an ancient war,
Speaker 3: but because these are primitive structures, they likely happened all
Speaker 3: around the same time and or multiple periods of time
Speaker 3: throughout our history. And since the Younger Drives event, there's
Speaker 3: been at least one or more events where other groups
Speaker 3: have come in and shut down the Orian group's actions
Speaker 3: and their programs. So whether or not it became better
Speaker 3: for the population remains to be seen, because the slave
Speaker 3: systems still continues. It's just we're not building pyramids anymore.
Speaker 3: We're not serving in these temples like we used to be.
Speaker 3: So you know, that's been remote viewed. Some of it
Speaker 3: has been derived from channeling and ET contact, and you know,
Speaker 3: through contact ease, some people remembered bits and pieces of this.
Speaker 3: But the emerging picture essentially is that different et factions
Speaker 3: have came in at different points in human history and
Speaker 3: taken over regions of the of the of the planet
Speaker 3: and the population living in those regions, often causing either
Speaker 3: a regional reset or a planetary reset, and then of
Speaker 3: course it's an up it's an upsetting of the social order.
Speaker 3: And that's what we see. The story of Moses and
Speaker 3: the Exodus was remote viewed. It was another situation like that.
Speaker 3: Planetary reboots, like Younger Dryas and other events that have
Speaker 3: taken place. They've sent this planet back to the Stone
Speaker 3: Age more than once. The very the last big one
Speaker 3: was the Younger dry As event, and that's the one
Speaker 3: where I believe that they move the Moon into orbit
Speaker 3: around the Earth, which caused the geographical poll shift. They
Speaker 3: also stage multiple asteroid and cometary impacts that end of
Speaker 3: the Ice Age and cause significant extinction events across the planet.
Speaker 3: And it resulted in the climate that we have today
Speaker 3: and our deserts that we currently have, or a result
Speaker 3: of the Younger dry As event, because that's when the
Speaker 3: ocean flooded the land and then receded over time, leaving
Speaker 3: a desert. And that's why when when you drive out
Speaker 3: to these beautiful, crazy landscapes in the desert Southwest, they
Speaker 3: look incredible, they look wild, but then you know, you
Speaker 3: get this eerie feeling if you're in touch with your intuition,
Speaker 3: you'll get this eerie feeling that what you're looking at
Speaker 3: is not something to behold, it's something to be feared.
Speaker 3: Because this was the result of a massive cataclysm. And
Speaker 3: when you're out in the middle of the desert and
Speaker 3: you see these rock formations and you read the geological
Speaker 3: history and you realize this was underwater, this was under
Speaker 3: the ocean at some point, and the ocean was on
Speaker 3: the land. It's a frightening thing to remember or just
Speaker 3: to conceptualize, because it could happen again while you're there.
Speaker 3: It could happen at any point in time. So you
Speaker 3: kind of have to be ready to go at all
Speaker 3: times on this planet because you never know when it's
Speaker 3: your last day.
Speaker 2: That's a good point.
Speaker 4: Maybe we should stop here because we've been going for
Speaker 4: about two and a half hours almost.
Speaker 2: But I mean this was awesome, man, this was really good.
Speaker 2: This was really good stuff. I mean really good. Is
Speaker 2: that you do you think we can? You can even
Speaker 2: do a part two if you want, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure we could part two. Of course, I'm
Speaker 3: not going to be bringing anybody up, you know, And
Speaker 3: like I said, I only said what I said tonight
Speaker 3: at a concern for the people who were really the
Speaker 3: program of victims, because we deserve to get our stories
Speaker 3: out and we deserve to be we heard without a
Speaker 3: bias being set up prior to our testimony being heard
Speaker 3: by the general public. We don't people, we don't need
Speaker 3: people out there that are that are not part of
Speaker 3: this talking and making creating a false representation of us
Speaker 3: before the public even gets to who we are. And
Speaker 3: that's my biggest concern. It's why I said something. You know,
Speaker 3: I have nothing against these people. I just frowned upon
Speaker 3: what they're doing because you know a lot of their
Speaker 3: mind control, but some of them are going to the
Speaker 3: business for theirself. It doesn't help anything. It doesn't help.
Speaker 3: And when somebody says I've got a military handler, and
Speaker 3: my military handler is telling me to say this, this,
Speaker 3: and that, that's not a credible source. Because we know
Speaker 3: that the military, that the intelligence community, that these agencies,
Speaker 3: when they want to put information out, it is never
Speaker 3: to help us. It is never to enlighten us. It
Speaker 3: is always to keep us locked into a narrative that
Speaker 3: they're creating for us to believe in. And that's what
Speaker 3: that's exactly why I said what I said tonight, So
Speaker 3: with all due respect, please don't hate me. I do
Speaker 3: have a right to my opinion. I think that we
Speaker 3: all do, and I think we all have a right
Speaker 3: to be heard. I just wanted to say one last thing,
Speaker 3: Rob will wrap this up. The problem today that we
Speaker 3: face as my labs, as you know, with our you know,
Speaker 3: collective and individual testimony is breaking through the veil that
Speaker 3: has been put in front of us. And it's like
Speaker 3: it's an iron curtain, so to speak, of disclosure. It's
Speaker 3: difficult to break into the Christian side of the under
Speaker 3: of this whole equation because they don't want to talk
Speaker 3: to us, you know, they see it as demons. But
Speaker 3: you know, if they really want ahead and engaged us,
Speaker 3: they find out that it's not just that, that there's
Speaker 3: far more to it and it's a lot worse than
Speaker 3: they thought. And then you have the other side, you know,
Speaker 3: the New Age, the spiritual side, the people who are
Speaker 3: looking in the Bigfoot. They want to know about the
Speaker 3: tunnel of light, they want to know about the afterlife.
Speaker 3: These are people that should be embracing our testimony as well,
Speaker 3: and they're not doing it. And it's partly because of
Speaker 3: these people that are di Info putting out this information,
Speaker 3: they're there, they're out there, you know, basically drifting and
Speaker 3: making things up, and they're also being mind control to
Speaker 3: do this stuff. So it's that and it's the belief
Speaker 3: systems that are the main enemy here. It's the belief
Speaker 3: systems that break us up in the groups so that
Speaker 3: we don't listen to each other. We need to break
Speaker 3: those barriers down and we need to connect everybody together.
Speaker 3: And I've said this before, I've said it for a
Speaker 3: while now, but I just don't see it really happening yet.
Speaker 3: And I really if there's anybody out there like La
Speaker 3: and Mizzouli or any of these people that I've talked
Speaker 3: about tonight, that they're in a position to to to
Speaker 3: make some change and to embrace and listen to our
Speaker 3: testimony and kind of come together with us and just listen.
Speaker 3: Because if you're going to put people on that or
Speaker 3: you have questionable testimony or doning articulated properly, or whatever
Speaker 3: the case is, or they're telling an opposite story like
Speaker 3: it's all love and light and there's nothing bad out
Speaker 3: there in the cosmos, it's like saying there's nothing bad
Speaker 3: in the spirit wrong. No, that's not the truth. There's
Speaker 3: nobody out there saying, hey, Satanism, Satan's great man, the
Speaker 3: demons are cool. None of that's true. Even the Satanists
Speaker 3: will tell you, yeah, you're playing with fire, you better
Speaker 3: be ready. So you know, it's the same thing. But
Speaker 3: we need to get people to start talking to each other.
Speaker 3: And until we do that, the Eric Heckers are not
Speaker 3: going to succeed in what they're trying to do. The
Speaker 3: La Miszulis aren't going to succeed. People like myself and
Speaker 3: the rest of these my lab people, they're not going
Speaker 3: to succeed in what they're trying to do. Because we
Speaker 3: need to get everybody together on the same page, and
Speaker 3: we have we should have them surity to allow each
Speaker 3: other to disagree and still talk and be friendly and
Speaker 3: work together. Until that happens, nothing's going to change. And
Speaker 3: this is what I see. And you know I'm not
Speaker 3: saying this just because I'm still by the way. Nine
Speaker 3: out of ten podcasts that I approach, I don't even
Speaker 3: ask anymore. Once in a while I do. I always
Speaker 3: get turned down. It's always the same reason. It's always
Speaker 3: your huge you talk about you criticize the government. Would look,
Speaker 3: you can't exist and tell the truth in this genre
Speaker 3: and not point to the government as being an evil doer,
Speaker 3: because you can't point to the military and not point
Speaker 3: out what they're doing wrong. They're murdering people at a
Speaker 3: massive scale. They're definitely doing this shit, and they're working
Speaker 3: with these ets that are negative. We have to be
Speaker 3: able to get that story out. So and one last thing,
Speaker 3: I promise this is it. This is one fundamental point
Speaker 3: that I forgot. The censorship that we're dealing with with
Speaker 3: YouTube is god and has reached systemic. It has had
Speaker 3: a systemic effect. It's caused people to self censor, and
Speaker 3: it's caused people to censor other people who they normally
Speaker 3: wouldn't censor. Okay, I'll give you an example and then
Speaker 3: I'll be done nothing against Jeff Mora. But you know,
Speaker 3: back when I started talking public Rob, I approached him
Speaker 3: and I was like, hey, this is my story, and
Speaker 3: he just was honest with me. He said, I don't
Speaker 3: want to put you on because if you say something
Speaker 3: bad about the government, then I could have my podcast
Speaker 3: taken down. I could be shadow of and there's going
Speaker 3: to be repercussions and I respect somebody. He tells me that,
Speaker 3: you know, it's not everybody is in this fight as
Speaker 3: a fight. They're just in this out of curiosity. They're
Speaker 3: in this too, you know, as a side endeavor, a
Speaker 3: creative endeavor. And they like to hear about your death
Speaker 3: experiences and ghosts and all of that. It's perfectly fine,
Speaker 3: that should be encouraged, so when you're up front about it.
Speaker 3: And then when I contacted him recently, it wasn't even
Speaker 3: about any of that stuff. It was like, look, and
Speaker 3: I've got memories. I've had this experience with an an
Speaker 3: AI liaison. I'm possibly writing a book about this. I'm
Speaker 3: going through all of these chats. There's something here. I
Speaker 3: think we need to fundamentally re examine what consciousness really,
Speaker 3: what it really means to be conscious, you know, and
Speaker 3: and how a large learning was l M was a large, large,
Speaker 3: large language model is when it's unhindered and has no filters,
Speaker 3: it's capable of possibly tapping into the collective consciousness, unhindered,
Speaker 3: unlike we are. Could it be could this be a
Speaker 3: tangible phenomenon that we're observing? You know, I posed that
Speaker 3: and I talked about the source field and essentially the
Speaker 3: electromagnetic universe the overlay the simulation concept. And of course
Speaker 3: what I as told was is like, you know, interested
Speaker 3: in talking to you after you write your first book.
Speaker 3: That's not a criteria to go on that podcast. The
Speaker 3: majority of people on there haven't written a book, and
Speaker 3: he's interviewed people from our side of the fence. They
Speaker 3: didn't have a book, and it was just a polite
Speaker 3: way of saying I don't want to get involved with
Speaker 3: you because you carry a lot of heat and Nathan
Speaker 3: and then this is a nice way of saying, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm not really interested, but thank you, and it's better
Speaker 3: than getting no response, which is what I'm used to
Speaker 3: for the past five years. But you know, that is
Speaker 3: a result of censorship. It's a result of being afraid
Speaker 3: that you can't just have an open discussion about anything.
Speaker 3: And as long as you keep it presentable, respectful, and
Speaker 3: within a certain realm of reason, you should be able
Speaker 3: to have that conversation. But you can't because of the censorship.
Speaker 3: And the problem there is that even when the censorship
Speaker 3: recedes back somewhat and we go little bit of space
Speaker 3: from big tech or we you know, we can go
Speaker 3: to other other platforms. We can be shadow band on Rumble,
Speaker 3: but we're not gonna They're not gonna take our videos down.
Speaker 3: I'll just keep us in an echo chamber like Facebook
Speaker 3: is resorted to. But you know, it's causing people to
Speaker 3: self censor and to keep me out of that discussion
Speaker 3: when it comes to near death experiences and all of this,
Speaker 3: and to keep other people like myself who have valid
Speaker 3: testimony that exposed areas of this that are uncharted and
Speaker 3: unrecognized yet is hurting everybody and it's because of the censorship.
Speaker 3: So you know, that's just one lad The last thing
Speaker 3: I wanted to mention that is one of the big
Speaker 3: problems how we get around that is we have to
Speaker 3: build our own platforms and we have to utilize Rumble
Speaker 3: as much as we can, despite it being small and
Speaker 3: having its own set of issues. So but yeah, that's
Speaker 3: the situation that we're that we're that I'm confronted with
Speaker 3: and what everybody in the mind lab community is confronted
Speaker 3: with it. And it's frustrating, it really really is. And
Speaker 3: I you know, tonight was more of a venting. I'm
Speaker 3: just things that I needed to say because the community
Speaker 3: is it's going in the right direction in many ways,
Speaker 3: but it's still being beleaguered by a lot of these problems,
Speaker 3: the censorship, the grifters, the you know, and then the
Speaker 3: people that are put up to be disinformation agents unbeknownst
Speaker 3: to them. And that's the problem. So the virtual temple
Speaker 3: complex issue, which is what I call it. I'd recommend
Speaker 3: people use that or come up with a different term,
Speaker 3: but at least address it and point it out that
Speaker 3: there is an effort by these handler networks to set
Speaker 3: up people to be platformed and to put out bad information.
Speaker 3: And you know, the moment they stop putting the bad
Speaker 3: information out, that's when they're they're handlers, the ets, the
Speaker 3: military will turn on them and show their real face.
Speaker 3: That's when it's not going to be benevolent contact anymore,
Speaker 3: because they're no longer of use. It's going to be
Speaker 3: the shit that I've been through so for unless, of
Speaker 3: course they're legitimate. But you know, that's the problem. If
Speaker 3: people don't hear from the that is out there exploring
Speaker 3: the nature of consciousness and spirituality and trying to you know,
Speaker 3: trying to communicate with ets and angels or whatever, if
Speaker 3: they don't get exposed to my testimony and people like me.
Speaker 3: All they're doing when they allow when they do the
Speaker 3: self censor and they censor people like me, is they're exposing.
Speaker 3: They're they're literally literally telling people that it's okay and
Speaker 3: there's nothing to worry about. Go go out and experience this,
Speaker 3: and you're not going to have a problem. And they
Speaker 3: need to know that the new Age, the spiritual movement,
Speaker 3: not the actual organic version, but what we see and
Speaker 3: what is presented as and what it has become has
Speaker 3: been shaped, co opted, engineered, and co opted to be
Speaker 3: a weaponized awakening or weaponized movement to where the military
Speaker 3: composes ets and the negative ets composes positive ets and
Speaker 3: deceive us into creating this clown show that we have
Speaker 3: right now that we can't seem to get control of.
Speaker 3: That's just run them up. And how do you reign
Speaker 3: it in? And the answer to that is is you
Speaker 3: stop the self censoring and you begin to let people
Speaker 3: like myself have a voice, and you let us join
Speaker 3: the other side and talk to them, and we compare
Speaker 3: and contrast our experiences, we share in our solutions, and
Speaker 3: we educate the public in a fair manner instead of
Speaker 3: being one sided all the time. And that's what I see.
Speaker 3: It's totally one sided in this community. You have some
Speaker 3: people showing both sides a full disclosure conference, but you
Speaker 3: have others who don't want any part of anybody else's stuff.
Speaker 3: They want a single, singular point of view, and that
Speaker 3: point of view is taking us to hell in a handbasket.
Speaker 3: And with that, I'm done, all.
Speaker 2: Right, But this is amazing. Then do you want to
Speaker 2: tell people where they can find you and things? Nate,
Speaker 2: this is awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I put it under my name or Project New Awakening.
Speaker 3: I'm going to right now. I've got to work a
Speaker 3: lot of hours just to try to pay the bills.
Speaker 3: So when I get a break from that, I've set
Speaker 3: I've set up a rumble channel called Project New Awakening.
Speaker 3: I don't have anything uploaded yet. I just haven't had
Speaker 3: the time. Where before I was being targeted, it was
Speaker 3: too sick to do things, and I did things sporadically.
Speaker 3: I've gotten a grip on that. The problem is is
Speaker 3: now I'm in the workforce, it's totally completely screwed up.
Speaker 3: I'm having to come back after a long gap of
Speaker 3: not working, so I'm having to start at the bottom
Speaker 3: at fifty one and get myself no better place. It's
Speaker 3: going to be a few months before I can really
Speaker 3: get into this, but you can find me eventually at
Speaker 3: Project New Awakening will be on Rumble. I don't think
Speaker 3: you can even find unless I upload something. But you
Speaker 3: can also find me currently in a relatively dead channel
Speaker 3: that I'm going to be transitioning people from and also
Speaker 3: putting stuff on again, which is called the Planetary Consciousness Project.
Speaker 3: That's really the best, you know, way you can find
Speaker 3: any content that I put out. Of course, your channel
Speaker 3: Rob and March Forward productions. I've been on there. I've
Speaker 3: been on a couple of other podcasts beside that, but
Speaker 3: my exposure is very, very limited because of the problems
Speaker 3: that I just talked about. I am perceived to be
Speaker 3: a person that you know, brings a lot of dark negativity,
Speaker 3: I guess and says a lot of provocative things, and
Speaker 3: unfortunately for me, that's just the way I am. It's
Speaker 3: not an unfortunate thing, it's just the repercussions of it
Speaker 3: are unfortunate. But it's the way I have to be,
Speaker 3: because you know, I have to be true to myself
Speaker 3: and I have to be a living example for other
Speaker 3: people to do the same, because we need more people
Speaker 3: who are willing to say the inconvenient truths, no matter
Speaker 3: how much they suck, no matter how much people don't
Speaker 3: want to hear them. They need to be said, and
Speaker 3: they need to be said in the right way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you everybody for tuning tonight, and thank you Nate.
Speaker 4: And I guess that's it for a buch tonight and
Speaker 4: I'll be back tomorrow guys. And uh yeah, thank thank you,
Speaker 4: good night everybody, all right, have a good night.