WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:03.720 Second three this evening is titled The Children and the CIA. 2 00:00:04.480 --> 00:00:07.000 Tonight we'll learn of the agency's interest in children. 3 00:00:07.360 --> 00:00:10.400 Part of the gate program where I was pulled out 4 00:00:10.400 --> 00:00:14.240 of the room by a guy in a suit. I 5 00:00:14.279 --> 00:00:17.559 went in and did like the different tones in the 6 00:00:17.640 --> 00:00:20.960 leftier tones in the right ear, different, you know, raising your. 7 00:00:20.839 --> 00:00:25.280 Hand in these weird things they had kids do. 8 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:28.519 Is the strange liquid, that. 9 00:00:28.600 --> 00:00:31.879 Weird pink drink, That pink drink that you're always shutting down. 10 00:00:32.600 --> 00:00:34.840 So to really understand what I'm talking about, you have 11 00:00:34.880 --> 00:00:36.399 to go back to nineteen fifty eight. 12 00:00:36.679 --> 00:00:40.399 It's a spot neck. Nineteen fifty eight marked the first 13 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:44.799 time government became involved with public school. With this new 14 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:49.679 policy came identifying gifted and talented children. 15 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:54.240 Who's gifted, who's talented, and taking them out and giving 16 00:00:54.280 --> 00:00:59.280 them different education. What that different education is cuts back 17 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:01.159 to the Monroe instage. 18 00:01:01.880 --> 00:01:04.000 You should be hearing my voice in your right ear 19 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:06.400 until I heard those Gateway tapes and I was like, WHOA, 20 00:01:06.439 --> 00:01:07.959 this is very, very similar. 21 00:01:09.439 --> 00:01:15.159 These gate programs are grooming people to take roles in society, entertainers, 22 00:01:16.439 --> 00:01:21.719 corporate owners. Politicians discussed the fact that Charlie was indeed 23 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:25.319 a gifted child who went to a literal children's at 24 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:26.280 school for the gifted. 25 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:30.200 But they're looking at you long before that. They are 26 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:31.560 looking at you from childhood. 27 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:37.400 The Thuds have a record file on every single child 28 00:01:37.840 --> 00:01:39.920 from preschool to your career. 29 00:01:40.599 --> 00:01:46.120 Your Laxation program by Thomas H. Bodinski, PhD. Here they are? 30 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:51.799 Could they and would they have just advanced to making 31 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:56.760 psychics like testing for esp abilities. 32 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:01.480 Go to scary places with that? 33 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:04.239 Did you know anybody else that has these days? 34 00:02:04.760 --> 00:02:05.200 I don't. 35 00:02:05.319 --> 00:02:08.439 I don't know anybody else in the program. You know, 36 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:11.120 they have a front for a front for a front. 37 00:02:11.319 --> 00:02:12.719 So what are they covering up? 38 00:02:13.199 --> 00:02:21.039 Do you believe that this could have been? But absolutely, 39 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:27.719 you're not crazy. The government really was doing psychic testing 40 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:33.639 on children, and I'm going to prove it. 41 00:02:41.439 --> 00:02:42.800 They're finally starting out. 42 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:44.520 Remember you should be hearing my voice. 43 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:47.120 You should be hearing my voice. You should be hearing 44 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:48.719 my voice in your right ear. 45 00:02:56.520 --> 00:02:58.919 Any page, Welcome back to the show. It's really good 46 00:02:58.919 --> 00:02:59.439 to see you. 47 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:03.479 How things, It's great to be here. Thanks for having 48 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:03.800 me back. 49 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:04.080 Writer. 50 00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:08.800 Things are busy this time of year, a lot going on, 51 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:10.680 but you know, can't complain. 52 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:16.800 Yeah, so I haven't talked to you too much about 53 00:03:16.840 --> 00:03:21.360 the movie, but it just released the other day, Psychic Agent, 54 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:26.879 the Gate Program. And what were your initial thoughts on it? 55 00:03:26.919 --> 00:03:28.919 Did you really like it? I mean, you're in it, 56 00:03:29.039 --> 00:03:31.919 so I loved it. 57 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:35.479 No, it is really really well done. And I think, 58 00:03:35.520 --> 00:03:37.520 you know, the work you did write around this is 59 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:41.319 so important because this has affected you know, a broad 60 00:03:41.439 --> 00:03:45.599 range of people, probably in the maybe even tens of thousands, 61 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:49.840 right as many decades as it has this has been occurring, 62 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:52.879 So it's important information to get out to the people 63 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:56.759 and to expose kind of you know, these programs, these 64 00:03:56.840 --> 00:03:59.280 hidden programs that are going on and the hidden research 65 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:01.719 that has been going going on since the late fifties, 66 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:05.360 early sixties and continues on to this day. So good job, 67 00:04:05.680 --> 00:04:08.039 you know with getting this out. And I know, didn't 68 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:09.759 you run into a little bit of problem because there 69 00:04:09.759 --> 00:04:11.840 were children involved and they still want to keep the 70 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:12.599 lid on that, right. 71 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:16.040 Yeah. I thought that it was going to be a 72 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:20.040 little bit difficult because in the trailer that I posted 73 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:26.480 as like an old NBC news broadcast from like nineteen 74 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:31.600 seventy seven, that is like it's way longer. It's around 75 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:34.680 fifteen minutes long. It's talking about all of the different 76 00:04:34.839 --> 00:04:40.720 mk Ultra subprojects on children. And after I put that out, 77 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:42.959 I was like, maybe that was kind of a mistake 78 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:47.639 because that's just going it's just going full fledged directly 79 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:50.680 into it, you know, the CIA's interest in children. But 80 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:53.040 I thought that that was really important to get across 81 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:58.240 because there were several mk Ultra subprojects that were directly 82 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:03.040 toward children. In all of them specifically tailored toward discovering, 83 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:07.639 unlocking and study of esp and psychic abilities. Mk Ultra 84 00:05:07.720 --> 00:05:12.480 Subproject eighty three, mk Ultra Subproject one thirty six literally 85 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:15.120 talks about psychic testing on children. We show it in 86 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:18.639 the movie. Mk Ultra Subproject one O two is a 87 00:05:18.680 --> 00:05:23.279 summer camp where the CIA was collecting data on four 88 00:05:23.360 --> 00:05:26.680 hundred and sixty two children, right, And like what you 89 00:05:26.759 --> 00:05:30.199 were mentioning several kids. I've been through this, I would 90 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:34.720 say upwards in the millions. And that's not even counting 91 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:38.920 the kids that were involved in these types of programs 92 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:43.360 from other countries. You know, we didn't even really get 93 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:46.399 into that because a lot of people in the UK 94 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:50.079 and Canada and Australia have reached out to me and 95 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:54.079 said that they remember something very similar. So this wasn't 96 00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:57.680 just a United States thing. This seems like it was 97 00:05:57.720 --> 00:06:02.439 spread out all over the world thing. And then when 98 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:05.600 you you know, get into like, you know, when did 99 00:06:05.639 --> 00:06:08.040 this you know first start. And the kind of the 100 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:11.079 genius part about this is in the early seventies, when 101 00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:16.240 parents found out that the CIA basically had access to 102 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:21.480 all of their children's school records, they tried to pass 103 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:26.439 this bill called FURPA, which is like the Parents' Rights 104 00:06:26.439 --> 00:06:31.079 and Privacy Act, which gave parents their school kids school 105 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:35.560 records back. But the CIA then slipped in an amendment 106 00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:38.360 to FURPA which allowed the CIA to continue to get 107 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:42.120 into kids school records. And then they started just changing 108 00:06:42.160 --> 00:06:44.920 the names of all the different programs. Right from the 109 00:06:44.959 --> 00:06:50.120 standard gate program, which is gifted and talented education, it 110 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:55.199 turned into a bunch of different acronyms like TAG, which 111 00:06:55.279 --> 00:07:00.920 is a talented, talented and gifted right soon commented on 112 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:03.759 one of my videos, they said that one of the 113 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:11.959 programs in Georgia was called Focus, which is called fostering originality, creativity, understanding, 114 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:16.839 and self awareness. So this thing goes super deep into 115 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:18.879 all kinds of different aspects. 116 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:23.800 That's for sure. And it's been a really interesting journey 117 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:27.480 for me and a fairly new one, and so you know, 118 00:07:27.560 --> 00:07:30.600 this is kind of a new rabbit hole to continue down, 119 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:33.920 and I've been doing such and you know, you mentioned 120 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:39.319 the sub project one thirty six, that one's important, and 121 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:43.240 I think part of the reason. Obviously, when you're you're 122 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:46.040 dealing with minors, it's an issue. But I think there's 123 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:48.519 a liability issue. And I know you mentioned that this 124 00:07:48.600 --> 00:07:52.680 is a worldwide, global, you know, basically program that they're 125 00:07:52.720 --> 00:07:55.480 studying these kids. And I do believe there was a 126 00:07:55.560 --> 00:08:00.959 lawsuit actually just recently won in Canada, a case out 127 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:04.800 of there, so I'm sure they're afraid of repercussions and 128 00:08:04.959 --> 00:08:10.000 how these programs have inadvertently affected folks. And you know, 129 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:13.240 for me, it's answered some of the questions I started 130 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:18.040 out fifteen plus years ago trying to understand what was 131 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:20.839 happening at the Rocky Mountain Ranch formerly known as the 132 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:25.600 Clearview Ranch. And through all these years and through reading 133 00:08:25.639 --> 00:08:28.399 through documents and interviews in this it's come to my 134 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:32.279 attention that yes, probably a good portion of it was 135 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:37.399 unexplained phenomenon, but another portion there were some black access 136 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:40.480 projects going on out there as well. And continue so 137 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:44.879 and it's also answered another question for me writer, which is, 138 00:08:44.919 --> 00:08:47.360 you know, my sister who's a little bit older than me. 139 00:08:47.440 --> 00:08:50.600 So I'm nine, ten and eleven years old and my sister, 140 00:08:51.159 --> 00:08:53.200 you know, six years older, so she's in her high 141 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:57.039 school years, and the phenomena seemed to affect us differently. 142 00:08:57.039 --> 00:08:59.960 And I always question, and that's true with any people 143 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:02.559 that experience some of the more paranormal things in life. 144 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:07.200 Some people you'll get the hitchhikers or you know, things 145 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:10.320 that kind of follow them or and others won't. I 146 00:09:10.320 --> 00:09:12.720 always wondered why that might be. And so when I 147 00:09:12.799 --> 00:09:15.120 found out about the Twilight Learners and the training I 148 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:17.600 went through for over a year, you know, keeping me 149 00:09:17.639 --> 00:09:20.600 in that theta state and the disassociation and all that 150 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:24.519 from the trauma of my childhood, it's answered some questions 151 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:27.320 regarding that. I'm like, oh, that makes sense. You know 152 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:31.080 that when you're when you're trained to stay in theata 153 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:34.279 or deep meditation, and I was trained to do that 154 00:09:34.320 --> 00:09:36.639 at such a young age. I think it you know, 155 00:09:36.759 --> 00:09:39.559 fosters being able to lose a dream and you know, 156 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:42.480 those kind of things. So it's it's been really interesting 157 00:09:42.919 --> 00:09:46.440 to learn about these different programs You know, what's. 158 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:49.360 Really interesting is when I was making the movie, after 159 00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:56.879 I went out to with you in Colorado and I 160 00:09:56.919 --> 00:09:59.240 was making the movie, I was going through and looking 161 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:01.559 through all the docum because you said that the Twilight 162 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:04.720 Learners program with Thomas ah Smerdinski that you were put 163 00:10:04.759 --> 00:10:07.159 into whenever you were really young, which is essentially a 164 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:11.679 biofeedback program, you would get the same type of feeling 165 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:14.120 that you got whenever you would listen to the Monroe 166 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:18.759 Institute Gateway PEPs this out of body sensation right, and 167 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:22.519 a lot of people, a lot of the original remote 168 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:26.080 viewers and even Angela Ford within the documentary said that 169 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:29.200 being outside of your body, having a national travel or 170 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:32.080 having an obian out of body experience is the most 171 00:10:32.120 --> 00:10:38.440 advanced form of remote viewing. So within the Monroe Institute documents, 172 00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:42.679 the Gateway project documents, have you read through those. 173 00:10:44.120 --> 00:10:47.600 A little bit of it? You know, recently my focus 174 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:52.879 has been connecting dots on how and when I feel 175 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:58.679 like certain individuals, families, children are targeted, whether they're from 176 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:02.840 military families. Certainly my grandfather and my father were Navy. 177 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:05.799 So that I went down the writer yesterday, it was 178 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:08.360 all day. I had seventy two pages of notes by 179 00:11:08.360 --> 00:11:11.679 the end of the day, just going down these rabbit holes. 180 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:17.519 And it's so fascinating to me how a lot of 181 00:11:17.559 --> 00:11:20.720 these individuals that you hear about are connected. And Thomas H. 182 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:23.840 Bedinski and Chat and Grock and all those like Thomas H. 183 00:11:23.879 --> 00:11:27.399 Bedinski just keeps surprising me because he was connected in 184 00:11:27.480 --> 00:11:31.720 ways that was really surprising. And initially when I found 185 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:35.399 out that, you know, at first he was an internal 186 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:39.039 navigational engineer at an Area fifty one and worked on 187 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:42.799 the SR seventy one Blackbird, and that just really I'm like, wait, 188 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:46.600 wait a minute, internal navigational engineer. And then the video 189 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:49.720 clip that you included into the film of little Kevin there, 190 00:11:49.799 --> 00:11:52.759 you know, who had epilepsy and was in the same program. 191 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:55.320 I was, Kevin, can you make the rocket launch? Kevin? 192 00:11:55.320 --> 00:11:57.320 Can you? And I just put two and two together 193 00:11:57.360 --> 00:12:00.000 and I went, wow, if they're back engineering these cracks 194 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:04.279 and they don't know how the navigational systems work, if 195 00:12:04.279 --> 00:12:07.799 their mind to mine telepath of communication with these craft, 196 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:11.679 it would make complete sense that Vidinsky would then cross 197 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:15.399 over into you know, the research he did with altered 198 00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:20.360 states and the HEMI sync and on all that. So, yeah, 199 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:21.279 I really. 200 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:23.480 Think that you're onto something, and I think something is 201 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:27.720 going to come out really soon about this. Some people 202 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:29.840 are going to really start talking about this. That some 203 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:34.480 that the goal of the gate programs might have been 204 00:12:34.879 --> 00:12:37.799 some of the goals. I mean, there's obviously different branches 205 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:42.240 for any everything. It's recruitment, it's psychic abilities, it's putting 206 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:46.519 people in the everyday roles in society, high positions of power. 207 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:49.679 It's a lot of things. But I think one of 208 00:12:49.679 --> 00:12:55.279 the things that's getting ready to come out is getting 209 00:12:55.399 --> 00:13:00.840 kids the ability to control craft with their mind. I 210 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:03.519 think that that is one d percent what's going to 211 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:07.799 start coming out here really soon and is going to 212 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:10.919 be connected to the Gate program. But what I was 213 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:19.399 talking about with the Gateway Project document is that within 214 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:24.759 the document it says that biofeedback, which is the program 215 00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:29.679 that you went through with Thomas Hpedinski, is really important 216 00:13:29.720 --> 00:13:32.440 in understanding on how to get outside of your body. 217 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:37.240 Oh yeah, So the thing is that you said is 218 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:42.279 basically backed up and verified within that CIA Monroe Institute 219 00:13:42.399 --> 00:13:49.720 Gateway Project document in that biofeedback is used in order 220 00:13:49.759 --> 00:13:51.360 for people to get outside of their body. 221 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:55.919 Absolutely, absolutely in it, and Bodinsky was part of the 222 00:13:55.960 --> 00:14:00.320 Stargate research as well, that biofeedback piece. And that's really 223 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:03.679 how it all kind of you know, blew up for 224 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:07.120 me really is because when I started listening to and 225 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:10.480 you know, I'm not I've done the Binari beats for years, 226 00:14:10.600 --> 00:14:14.080 you know, but the Gateway tape specifically is when I 227 00:14:14.120 --> 00:14:16.360 was like, wow, this is so much like bio feedback, 228 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:20.120 which is really just going through having the headphones on. 229 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:23.120 You have the Hemi sync going, but you're really just 230 00:14:23.159 --> 00:14:26.919 going from head to toe relaxing your body. In these 231 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:29.480 tapes you know that I've had since childhood. There's one 232 00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:33.240 particular side of one cassette tape where you're really constricting 233 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:35.679 your muscles and really it's to help get rid of 234 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:38.639 migraine headache, so the headache suffers out there. It really 235 00:14:38.679 --> 00:14:41.679 does work. It does help because you're really learning to 236 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:45.759 feel and control your body muscles and getting into a 237 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:49.399 very deep relaxed state. And as a child, I can 238 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:53.360 remember feeling almost embarrassed because I would get so deeply 239 00:14:53.440 --> 00:14:56.879 relaxed at you know, like in the Pink Pink Floyd's song, 240 00:14:56.960 --> 00:14:59.759 you know, your hands feel like two balloons, like comfortably, 241 00:15:00.960 --> 00:15:03.840 you start getting these weird body sensations and every now 242 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:07.399 and again I'd fall asleep, you know, And but they 243 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:09.679 had the clicks going in the headphones to keep you 244 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:12.080 in that data state. That was the goal. You didn't 245 00:15:12.080 --> 00:15:14.480 want to fall asleep and you didn't want to be 246 00:15:14.519 --> 00:15:17.159 completely aware you're in that. That's why it's called Twilight 247 00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:19.879 Learners because you're in that twilight state. And I think 248 00:15:19.919 --> 00:15:23.080 that's so critical and for all people, like right before 249 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:25.559 you fall asleep, right before you wake up in the morning, 250 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:28.200 if you can recall your dreams at that time, really 251 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:30.960 really try to alter your states of mind. You know, 252 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:32.600 I'm going to have a good day to day, it's 253 00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:34.399 going to be a positive day. That's the time to 254 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:37.960 do it in that twilight state. And so yeah, absolutely 255 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:41.879 that goes along with you know, out of body experiences. 256 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:45.600 And for me, I think, you know, you talk about 257 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:48.960 the Gate Program Gifted and Talented. I was on the 258 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:50.960 other side of that, and I think that's important for 259 00:15:51.080 --> 00:15:53.639 listeners to know. And they weren't just pulling gifted and 260 00:15:53.720 --> 00:15:57.200 talented kids out that were scoring really high on tests. 261 00:15:57.639 --> 00:16:00.360 They were looking at the other side too. Or that 262 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:04.519 was me. I was like ADHD and dyslexic, and you know, 263 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:07.120 because I had so much trauma and upheaval going on 264 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:10.440 at the time. My half brother, you know, he burnt 265 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:13.639 down a couple of our houses. He was very asced 266 00:16:13.720 --> 00:16:17.519 up for furniture, divorce, violence, alcohol, like it was just 267 00:16:17.559 --> 00:16:22.320 an unstable environment. And so when you're in an unstable 268 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:25.240 environment like that's really hard to focus on your one 269 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:30.200 two three's in your ABCS. So you know, they were 270 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:34.039 pulling kids like that out as well, divorce groups, trauma groups, 271 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:38.840 learning disabilities, dyslexia, all that stuff. So I think they 272 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:42.679 were looking at the disassociation piece because through that trauma 273 00:16:43.000 --> 00:16:45.639 as a young child, I can remember just leaving my 274 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:48.240 body all the time, and I think that's why they 275 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:51.720 were taking a look at those kids as well. You know, 276 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:53.960 so it was kind of both sides going on at 277 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:54.559 the same time. 278 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:57.879 Well that makes sense because trauma is a big part 279 00:16:57.879 --> 00:17:00.639 of MK ulture. So if you can disappose the at somebody, 280 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:03.360 then you can program them and then they'll essentially forget 281 00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:05.759 because they've disassociated, so that you can have them go 282 00:17:05.799 --> 00:17:07.960 out and do whatever it is that they're supposed to 283 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:09.759 do and they come back and then they don't remember. 284 00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:14.079 That's like the whole thing of what mk ultra is. 285 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:17.160 And they do look for people that have been previously 286 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:21.920 traumatized from unstable childhoods because those are the people that 287 00:17:21.960 --> 00:17:26.599 are the easiest to be programmed because they already have 288 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:31.599 that disassociative part of their brain. They've already probably been 289 00:17:31.640 --> 00:17:37.319 outside of their body before, you know, and that's what 290 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:41.880 several people from the like Ingo Swan will talk about 291 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:44.000 being outside of his body all the time. As a 292 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:47.480 young kid, Angela Ford talk about being outside of her body. 293 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:51.599 But that's the thing. It could be the most advanced 294 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:55.599 form of remote viewing because you're actually there and you're 295 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:59.519 seeing the environment outside of your body. But the problem 296 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:04.200 is is that it's difficult to control having an out 297 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:08.240 of body experience. It seems like it happens just randomly 298 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:12.200 or through that type of trauma. So I think that 299 00:18:12.200 --> 00:18:16.079 that was the whole reason for the Monroe Institute and 300 00:18:16.119 --> 00:18:21.799 the reason that Army Intelligence and DA actually sent people 301 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:27.240 like Army soldiers and people that were in this Stargate 302 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:29.519 program which wasn't called the Stargate program at that time 303 00:18:29.559 --> 00:18:33.400 and through many different name changes, but they sent them 304 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:36.839 there to study under Robert Monroe to find out if 305 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:41.400 being outside of your body would help them remove you. 306 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:46.920 And that's kind of Robert Monroe's whole claim the fame 307 00:18:47.079 --> 00:18:50.039 is that if you do this for long enough, eventually 308 00:18:50.119 --> 00:18:52.279 you're going to get outside of your body. 309 00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:57.200 And it is something you can train yourself. You can 310 00:18:57.319 --> 00:18:59.680 learn to control yourself out of body. In fact, when 311 00:18:59.720 --> 00:19:03.240 you get deeper down into the Gateway tapes, you know, 312 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:06.839 and you're in Focus twenty two and Focus, you're learning 313 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:12.279 to really control you're out of body experience and to 314 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:15.599 actually go where you want to go for backwards, up, down, 315 00:19:16.119 --> 00:19:20.440 you know, visit different places, see different things, remote view way. 316 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:23.240 Before any of this came to light for me, for years, 317 00:19:23.279 --> 00:19:26.559 I was part of a Denver psychic development group, which 318 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:28.440 is kind of interesting now that I look back at that, 319 00:19:28.519 --> 00:19:31.240 because you know, since I was young, I feel like, 320 00:19:31.640 --> 00:19:35.200 you know, even my youngest son. You know, you can 321 00:19:35.279 --> 00:19:38.000 kind of see people's ors, feel the energy in a 322 00:19:38.079 --> 00:19:41.240 room more so, feel other people's energy, those kind of things. 323 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:44.640 So I was really drawn to go to this monthly meeting. 324 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:47.039 It was every month, and it was in a little 325 00:19:47.079 --> 00:19:51.480 bookstore in Littleton Englewood, Colorado, and you just sit around 326 00:19:51.480 --> 00:19:54.759 and kind of in a safe environment learn to practice 327 00:19:54.759 --> 00:19:58.119 psychic abilities and things like this. And we would do things, 328 00:19:58.319 --> 00:20:01.079 you know, where they'd put pictures and envelopes and you 329 00:20:01.119 --> 00:20:04.359 would just try to remote view what's in the envelopes. 330 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:06.400 And I had a really pretty high hip rate, and 331 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:09.200 I was like, Wow, this is really cool. So, yeah, 332 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:14.480 all these skills are really interesting to me. But yesterday 333 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:17.400 was really going with it because I'm trying to figure 334 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:21.400 out in my mind where and how, you know, it 335 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:23.400 was brought to my mother's attention to put me into 336 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:25.759 twilight learners. Did it come from my half brother who 337 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:29.640 in nineteen seventy three burnt down our house the week before. 338 00:20:29.680 --> 00:20:32.640 He had acted it all up, all in the furniture 339 00:20:32.640 --> 00:20:35.720 and stuff inside. So at that point we had to 340 00:20:35.960 --> 00:20:38.519 you know, turn him in for insurance because it was 341 00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:41.119 our home. It was completely destroyed, and he was sent 342 00:20:41.160 --> 00:20:43.759 away to Pueblo State and charged with arson and so 343 00:20:43.799 --> 00:20:47.960 he was institutionalized really for the remainder of his life. 344 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:50.759 Later in his last part of his life he went 345 00:20:50.759 --> 00:20:53.559 to halfway houses in Denver, but for the most part 346 00:20:53.640 --> 00:20:57.519 institutionalized his whole life. And he actually started when he 347 00:20:57.599 --> 00:21:00.759 was a young child. He was diagnosed with epilepsy and 348 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:03.720 from the records we have looking like around age four. 349 00:21:04.279 --> 00:21:07.440 So he was put into the Chicago State Hospital system. 350 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:11.079 And so what started me down this yesterday writer was 351 00:21:11.119 --> 00:21:13.759 I watched a Wi Files episode on the JFK and 352 00:21:13.799 --> 00:21:15.599 they mentioned and I'm going to butcher the name but 353 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:21.200 this and raw pooh it's p U H A R 354 00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:25.920 I c H Purity or something. Yes, yeah, thank you. 355 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:28.960 He mentioned them, but he mentioned Chicago, and I was like, oh, 356 00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:31.240 I wonder if you guys ties to Chicago State Hospital. 357 00:21:31.440 --> 00:21:34.039 And I started going down this whole Chicago State Hospital 358 00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:40.000 and sure enough, mentions in Bodinski and the sub Project 359 00:21:40.039 --> 00:21:44.680 one thirty six and you know, the brain perception research 360 00:21:44.720 --> 00:21:48.119 and all this stuff. So all these people are researching 361 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:52.160 in studying this, but I'm looking at Pueblo State Hospital, 362 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:55.880 Chicago State Hospital, and in the sixties and seventies, they 363 00:21:55.920 --> 00:21:59.799 were some outrageous things that they were doing to these patients. 364 00:22:00.359 --> 00:22:04.759 And my brother has long since been passed away, my 365 00:22:04.839 --> 00:22:10.480 half brother, but I feel compelled. I want to know 366 00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:12.839 what was going on with these patients in these state 367 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:16.799 hospitals because back in those decades, unlike today, you know, 368 00:22:16.880 --> 00:22:20.200 if you were seen as somewhat unstable or mentally, you know, 369 00:22:20.440 --> 00:22:22.920 they didn't have autism back in the fifties or whatever. 370 00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:25.440 They would just put you in a psychiatric hospital and 371 00:22:25.480 --> 00:22:28.079 throw away the key, you know, and would conduct all 372 00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:32.279 these horrific experiments, and some of them were psychological research 373 00:22:32.359 --> 00:22:35.839 and LSD experiments and things like this. And so I 374 00:22:35.880 --> 00:22:38.480 was going through I have some of my half brother's records. 375 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:40.720 His name was Gary, and I was going through and 376 00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:43.119 I fed him kind of you know, I scan them all, 377 00:22:43.119 --> 00:22:45.000 fed them in. And it was interesting because there's so 378 00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:47.480 much I'm like, please just help me sort all this out. 379 00:22:47.680 --> 00:22:51.440 But it was interesting because he talked about being able 380 00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:54.720 to sense other people's energies, being able to see into 381 00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:58.400 the future, being able to see into the past, and 382 00:22:58.839 --> 00:23:03.319 then in the same sentence that would say, but denied hallucinations, 383 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:06.599 denied hearing voices that are coming from the TV or 384 00:23:06.599 --> 00:23:08.480 those kind of things they were testing back in the day. 385 00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:12.680 So from what I'm reading, it sounded like he already 386 00:23:12.720 --> 00:23:14.799 had some of these gifts order to get it, because 387 00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:17.519 he was also put into these programs in the state hospital. 388 00:23:17.759 --> 00:23:20.039 So this is a whole other section I'm looking at 389 00:23:20.079 --> 00:23:23.960 and it's well known. Even at the ranch, the Rocky 390 00:23:23.960 --> 00:23:27.799 Mountain Ranch, we have this mysterious John Duke who claimed 391 00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:30.160 to come from San Francisco, who was part of the 392 00:23:30.200 --> 00:23:33.960 Air Defense Command and was also a psychologist, and he 393 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:38.039 would invite homeless and vagrants to the ranch property, which 394 00:23:38.079 --> 00:23:41.000 is like what why, And then he talks about taking 395 00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:46.680 legal LSD their soldiers coming from Camp Carson, where this 396 00:23:46.839 --> 00:23:50.720 Warren guy says he felt something wrong with his mind, 397 00:23:51.240 --> 00:23:54.640 something made him walk towards the woods, would release him 398 00:23:54.640 --> 00:23:56.839 and he would run back to the ranch house and 399 00:23:56.880 --> 00:23:59.240 then this did this to him five times. Sounds like 400 00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:03.480 mind control to me. So through my research and document 401 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:06.880