Speaker 1: The New York Jets just fucking fired me, and you
guys probably think I'm upset, but honestly, it's a huge
relief not to be coaching this poverty franchise anymore. Just
imagine coming into work every day and getting dirty looks
from that ayahuasca sipping douchebag Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, Aaron is
one of the best quarterbacks in NFL history, but we're
talking about a guy who's betrayed every teammate he ever had,
including his own family. You know, I'd rather watch that
milf hunting Mormon Zach Wilson throw five picks a game
than spend another day with that toxic, washed up bum
of a man. That Woody Johnson decided to throw Robert
Sala under the bus today, But the real tragedy is
that he's been throwing the people of New York under
the bus for over a decade. I just don't understand
who the fuck would buy a ticket to watch a
team that hasn't been to the playoffs in over fifteen years.
This entire organization can kiss my Harry Lebanese ass.
Speaker 2: When your old career gives you lemons, throwing some ice
mix in some vodka.
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Ryan will be checking in with him. Yeah, but it's interesting,
and I thought playing the Robert Solid piece that you
shared with me, clearly clearly, Ai, Yes, you know, clearly,
although it does sound a lot like salad, it does.
You know if you listen there and see if we.
Speaker 1: Hang on, you guys probably think I'm upset, But honestly,
that's a huge relief not to be coaching this poverty
franchise anymore. Just imagine coming into work every day and
getting dirty looks from that ayahuasca sipping douchebag.
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. You know it's so weird, is it is? Ai?
We do know that, Yes, Okay, it's Ai. Okay, So
somebody came in here today and said, my husband is
doing something with AI and he'd love to come on
and talk about it. And he has meetings with big
companies and it's a really it's a big game changer,
and she calls it sorcery. AI is a game changer.
And I have said from the beginning that you're not
going to put this genie back in the bottle, So
find a way to embrace it. Is it going to
replace every job? No, but it will replace some, as
does most things in evolution and things. I mean, you know,
you could look at it from anywhere. The dock workers
were worried that AI was going to become the thing
at the docks taking unloading ships.
Speaker 4: Or how is Springsteen going to write half his records anymore?
Speaker 2: Right, Well, hey, I would do it. Yeah, I would
do it cost me my job on the dock, yes,
So but to that end, it gets a little scary
because now you have to start to question, well, did
they really say that? Was it manipulated through AI? Was
it edited in some way? Is it? I mean, you
have AI now where companies can have you know, remember
all the sexual harassment videos we had to sit through
And I.
Speaker 4: Used to have to do it once a year. Now
in New York State, Yeah, if your employee, you have
to do it once a year.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Cuomo, thanks for your behavior. I but I
used to I want to be the I want to
be an actor in the sexual harassment thing. But now
they have like AI, you know, or or if you
have training videos at work, it's AI and you can
get them in any language, any accent, any look, any anything.
And it's really lifelike. It's very scary. It's hard to tell.
It's very hard to tell. Yeah, what's what.
Speaker 4: Well, there's one more Taylor Swizz at the red carpet
at the Grammys and the Emmys, and she's holding up
a Trump twenty twenty four right right now. You know
for a fact that she would never do right, but
it looks right.
Speaker 2: But it looks really so the way it's.
Speaker 4: Like she is like like smiling and posing with it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I bring this up because the hurricane and
and then I've been trying to get this guy to
come on and don't. I don't think he will. But
he put up a thing that just said, got to
be kidding me. They plan this, and I go, I
don't know what this is. Hurricane well sort of kind of.
And I've been going through the comments trying to decipher
what is and and the only thing you could label
this as is conspiracy, would you not say? I mean
yes by definition? And and I've been trying to get
the guy on and all I keep saying to the
guy is I have no agenda. I'm just curious. I'm
just a curious person, I really am. And I'm very
curious in how people think and how they perceive things
and what's being said. And maybe maybe there's something I'm
missing and maybe there is a little truth to some
of this stuff. How many things did we think we're
conspiracies before, like aliens? And then we find out that
the government has all these us right, So so maybe
there's something there. I don't know. I try to stay
somewhat open minded. Now I am not familiar with but
I think you probably are. Event two oh one, Project
Phoenix two point zero. No, you're not familiar with Project
Phoenix two point zh okay, me mean neither. I No.
It sounds like so I was writing this guy, I
go it was so strange because then the comments were
I saw that too.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Somebody says, stop, are you surprised? Hang onto your top hats.
There's something planned for twenty twenty five. Financially speaking, are
you serious?
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: Once we realized the battle is truly whatever, on and on.
So then I'm going, okay, so what what's happening here?
And why what are the conspiratcs about Hurricane Milton and
what's happening with people? And then in there it says
something along the lad lines of they a Chinook helicopter
got really close to a like a tense city where
people who have been displaced by the last hurricane in
the Carolinas.
Speaker 4: It was Brian Williams on this Chinook helicopter. I know,
was he reporting life on this?
Speaker 2: Okay, but listen to me because I don't know if
this is real or not? All right? But why follow
and see? I'll tell you what I deciphered from this
because I didn't spend a lot of time on it.
I didn't have a lot of time. I honestly, if
I gave it fifteen minutes, that was a lot. But
I was curious because I go, wait a second, this hurricane,
which I would think is natural, We've had them for years.
It's not something that is manipulated or man made. But
in some way they're they're saying like, no, not exactly
is it man made, but we've been wanting something like
this for a while, that that's sort of what I
was getting from this, and I'm not seeing that. So
I guess an unmarked military style helicopter flies into the
local distribution area and the rot destroys supplies and wipes
out tents injures three people, sends them but knocks down
like blows out tents, blows out everything. So they eventually
get back and they wind up getting an apology from
the military, but they had to go high up in ranking,
and no one was recognizing that it actually happened, but
as though the government was trying to take the displaced
people and make it worse for them. Well, which would
then And then I saw on somebody else's Facebook today
just to give you the I'm sorry to but here's
why that in England, somebody's saying, yeah, I'm a farmer
and I was paid by the government for two years
not to produce anything. They want to starve you, And
I'm going, are they trying to do population control?
Speaker 4: And then those programs like that in this country too,
Like if you have so many acres of land, yeah,
the government will pay you not to grow crops on it. Yeah,
But I don't know if that if it's I don't
know if it's the star of anybody.
Speaker 2: I don't either, because I go, I think you can
pretty much get food anywhere. I'm not saying it's going
to be the healthiest food, but sometimes the healthiest food
is always the best tasting anyway, So you know, not
that that's what But I so, I go, I'm not
sure what the conspiracy is. So uh. This guy then
sent me a thing and I don't want to say
his name because he hasn't really responded as to what
I can or can't. But so I said, is this
like an attempt at population control? And he said, the
rabbit hole is deeper than that. Project Phoenix two point
zero is apparently an event simulation from two thousand and nine.
I think was that when Katrina happened, And they said coincidence, preparation, planning, words, euphanism,
he said, And Tampa was selected as the potential fifteen
minute city part of the WEF and UN agenda of
her The twenty thirty Tampa, Florida is working to become
a fifteen minute city through its Tampa Moves plan. So
I guess the commute would be fifteen minutes.
Speaker 4: Everything you had, you, everything you need would be within
fifteen minute minutes. If you traveled outside the fifteen minute bubble,
you'd have to pay a tax, right, And this is
not this is this is this is not new. Oh yeah,
this is not new. They want to keep everybody within
fifteen minutes because they say to reduce carbon emissions.
Speaker 2: Basically, it is they wanted people to start walking and
doing things, so you would work within fifteen minutes. Your home,
everything would be within fifteen minutes. That's kind of nice.
Speaker 4: You can sleep later. That's a horrible idea.
Speaker 2: Well, but I don't see it. How could it happen?
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know how it could happen. I hope
it doesn't happen. But that's something that's been floated out
there by the World Economic Form.
Speaker 2: That's the World Economic Form w EF. That's who that is. Okay,
all right, so that's been floated out there. So he
so I'm wondering, like, and then they're saying that FEMA
is hiring private comp companies to prevent people from coming
back to grab any belongings. Yes, after this hurricane comes through,
do you is that? I? And now I say I
wanted to start to say do you believe this? But
I think the question is is it real? And how
do how do we find out?
Speaker 4: I don't know if that part's real, but I mean
I've read that.
Speaker 2: I know this.
Speaker 4: Elon Musk, who owns Twitter, this weekend was tweeting out
the fact that he was incredibly frustrated that he was
sending starlink packages to people in North Carolina after Ashville,
that they weren't getting them, that that there were entities
acting to try to stop people from helping those in
need in the Carolinas, and he was actually, he goes,
my blood is boiling, and he tweeted about it this
past weekend because he's trying to get those starlink kits
out so people have internet access access, right and they
weren't getting them, okay, and so and then and then
Trump was getting involved and DeSantis was getting involved and
that type of thing, and the idea being and I
don't if I believe this, but the idea, the theory
that people are floating out there. And again I don't
want to be I'm glad Kevin's n not here because
he'd be like, I'm asking, this is what people are saying, OK,
this is what people this is not.
Speaker 2: Let me give you the let me give the disclaimer
for you. Yes, I'm asking because I'm seeing this and
I don't understand it. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but
I'm curious as to what people think and why they're thinking.
This theory is that they want to wipe them down.
Sometimes they want.
Speaker 4: The theory is that they want the Red States to
bend the need to the Democrats and give If you
want aid, you better go in this direction. You better
approve these programs eventually, better vote our way, period, and we.
Speaker 2: Want to wipe all these people out.
Speaker 4: I mean, you just I don't know if you saw
this with a story in Ondaga County where twenty thousand
absentee ballots from the military were not counted in the
last election, and like the two people in charge are
under fire right now. I mean, that's a fact that
this isn't made up, This isn't a conspiracy. That that's
a fact. And so people are suspicious right now. And
there are people who have gone on social media, on
TikTok and others, and I've seen this and I have
no opinion on this. I'm just stating what they have said. Yes,
and they're saying that they have tried to help in
the Carolinas in that area in the aftermath of Asheville,
and they have been told that they would be prosecuted
and arrested for trying to do anything to help.
Speaker 2: Carolina a red or blue state.
Speaker 4: It's a red state. It's a red state. South Carolina
is a red state. They're all mostly the southeast. Georgia's
on the fence.
Speaker 2: State Carolina was on the fence a little bit.
Speaker 4: I don't know why, but they lean more red than
but they could be a purple state. Like if you
take New York City out, new York State could be
a purple state, right, Okay, Like we just New York
City just overpowers everybody.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we're so. Then the conspiracy isn't so much
population control as I may have thought, like a bigger deal,
but more of Hey, if we cut off the aid,
we'll get them to.
Speaker 4: Write they think of the nine billion people on this planet, Well,
you're gonna wipe out like a few thousand.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 2: This is I wasn't making any sense to me. But
then I thought, well, if every country's doing it, because
I see the England sky going they're trying to starve you,
which may not be the truth either.
Speaker 4: It may be well, there is theories about like Bill
Gates buying all Paul the farmland in America then not
growing anything. Okay, okay, so I mean, what is Bill
Gates need farmland?
Speaker 2: I I don't know, Like I go, this stuff would
make me, yeah, you would make you paranoid. Let me
tell you something. I almost sound crazy.
Speaker 4: I have actually gone down the rabbit hole. Not because
I believe these things. I want to see what people
are thinking saying. And there's a guy named David Ike.
David Ike lives on the Isle of Right. He was
Alex Jones before Alex Jones. He is still alive. Joe
Rogan won't even have him on his podcast. This is
how far out there the guy is. The guy believes
in lizard people. Okay, I'm not making this up. It's
been documented. He believes that Elon Musk right now has
put out Starlink and all these satellites is twenty nineteen
circling the globe, and that everyone who had a vaccine
is now going to at some point they're gonna flip
a switch and We're all gonna become mummified and march
to the beat of Elon's drum. Now Elon is I
don't know if he's pro vaccine or anti vaxx. I
have no idea what he was. Okay, but this is
where these theories go. And now you're seeing more and
more of supplements being promoted on social media. That's gonna help,
you know, magnify the effects of the vaccine which is
going to kill people, and this type of stuff. This
is the direction they're going. And who's they like, the
conspiracy theorist, the conspiracy sorry, and you know, like whether
you like or hate Ben Shapiro, he brought up a
great point. He goes, credible people, they could be right
ninety eight percent of the time. If they're wrong two
percent of the time, we hate them. But guys like
Alex Jones, who he's interviewed, has been wrong ninety eight
percent of the time. But the two percent he's been right.
And by the way, he has been right several times
over the last ten years over certain things.
Speaker 2: You're like, no way that he becomes an authority.
Speaker 4: The problem is is that he's been wrong so often
and now all of a sudden, we're gonna give him credibility.
Speaker 2: We're not gonna give credibility to people who've always been credible.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the media is it helping when they're suppressing
information or not? I mean, the Trump assassination attempt was
pure proof that the media leans to one side. It
wasn't even discussed or covered.
Speaker 2: I thought it was covered a lot. It wasn't. It wasn't.
It should have been front page news. I thought it was,
but it wasn't.
Speaker 4: It was only covered because people on the right made
a bigger deal about it. Then the second assassination attempt,
that was like, yeah, it's a old hat, no big deal.
Speaker 2: I thought that was I don't know. I didn't I
didn't see newspapers. I thought it was a bigger deal.
Speaker 4: Because the Democratic Chronicle didn't even talk about it. Given
to the Buffalo News, you even mentioned it. Yeah, we
talked about it on this show that Sunday. It was like, well,
they had plenty of time to write the paper.
Speaker 2: I'm sure we did talk about it because I know that, Yeah,
we had talked about the guy had sat for hours
in the by the fence, and yeah, they happened to
catch him, and I want to do.
Speaker 4: I believe that there are forces out there working against
the greater good for their own causes. Yes, that's why
the World Economic Forum had a their last forum rebuilding
trust with their theme. However, I don't believe in ninety
percent of these theories.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I just saw it and
I went, Holy cow. This is because everybody's so concerned
about the well being of the people down there and
what's going to happen in this And then you start
seeing these things like yeah, I watch out for as well,
and we go, well, I don't. I go, boy, I
hate I hate hearing that and I hate thinking that.
But at the same time, I don't know. I did
see how it seems so crazy.
Speaker 4: Well, like you always said, look for patterns, right, yeah,
after Katrina, who got the brunt of the blame for Katrina,
not for the actual hurricane, but for the aftermath, the
response or lack thereof George W.
Speaker 2: Bush. Yeah, he was killed. He was killed.
Speaker 4: And by the way, rightfully so the guy who ran FEMA.
There are emails that proved that he did not respond
quickly enough. Where's Joe Biden after Ashville?
Speaker 2: Yeah, where is he? Where's Colin. Where is she? She
ain't there.
Speaker 4: She's the vice president of the United States, she's running
for president. That would be a perfect opportunity to go
down to help people. No, we don't have any money, females,
We're out of money. Guys, where's that money going. It's
going to Ukraine, it's going to Israel, it's going to
help all these immigrants. But this fiscal year started October first,
and you mean it tour September first, and you mean
to tell me we don't have money.
Speaker 2: For these people.
Speaker 4: I mean, those are the patterns. That's what's getting everybody
hyped up. The problem is, and Obama once said this,
it's documented. You could see it. If you get people
that doctor trust information.
Speaker 2: You've won. Yeah. Right, that's where we're at, America. You
are here, everybody. No one don't trust anything or anybody anything.
It sucks, man, Yeah, it sucks. But when going back
to the solid piece, there's a chance somebody hears that
it's for real. That's my point.
Speaker 4: And the tweet was the tweet with Robert Salah was
his his outgoing Prescott conference. I've only seen one head
coach with the banner behind him of the team that
got fired him who sticked Jeron with the Bears to
a post firing press conference with the banner and wearing
the team's year.
Speaker 2: Say goodbye the team. They escorted him out of the building.
But there are people who would believe that that this
is real and retweeting it. Oh you see what Salah said.
No he didn't. It was a I No, that's where
we're at. Though. I think that that one's an extreme
and it wouldn't be right. Most people would see it
as a joke. I do wonder if down the line,
when we start to see things that where the lines
become blurred and we don't know really what's what, and
so you so the mistrust that's already there now you
just don't know.
Speaker 4: Well, okay, so here's one. So Ryan Fitzpatrick two weeks
ago tweeted out like a disparage of comment about Tom
Brady and people were like, yeah, this this is is
a parody account. No it was, It wasn't it was
Ryan Fitzpatrick. This is where we're at right now.
Speaker 2: We have no idea, we don't we don't know, and
so yeah, look all these things are. It's just weird
to me because I'm going shouldn't our focus being on
helping and not so much worry because.
Speaker 4: Everyone's got a microphone in their face, a camera, worried.
Speaker 2: About getting screwed. Basically, the whole thing is they're out
to screw you. They're out to screw you, they're out
to get you, they're out to fuck you. They're out
to hurt you. And I go, boy, you live that way,
and I really feel like you can make yourself nuts, sure,
like completely, like you would be parentally to leave your
anywhere you are, and it's all you know, you're you
don't know what.
Speaker 4: What's widden, and then you become insufferable and nobody wants
to be around you.
Speaker 2: And it's it's just this is America is.
Speaker 4: On its knees right now. Doesn't even realize it.
Speaker 2: We are we are at the mercy of everything. Well
we we we sort of. Yeah, And and then and
now you've got like I think, in about a week
or so, the book from uh Woodward comes out. Okay, Yeah,
and he wrote a book and it's basically it's a
from a Trump infeman and it's saying that when there
was a shortage of COVID tests or COVID machines to
do tests. H Trump was sending them. I don't know.
Trump has denied this, but Trump has been was sending
them over to Russia for Putin. Putin was highly paranoid
of getting COVID and didn't have access to anything. So
and then, according to this aid in the book told Woodward,
Putin said, look, if this gets out, it's not bad
for me, it's bad for you this one. And he
goes and Trump's like, I don't care, you know, I'll
do it, and that since he's been out of office,
he's had conversations with Putin, but no one could tell
you exactly what we said because he made everybody leave
the room, but they knew that Putin was on the phone.
I don't know if this drew Trump goes, he's a
terrible storyteller and a drain stole man. So again the
guy who no I understand, and I mean in a
Pulitzer prize winning guy and all this stuff, and so
you know, uh as a scholarly right. But but again,
it depending on what side of the aisle you're gonna
either believe or not believe. It goes back to the distrust.
So are the conspiracy theories as wild as as this stuff?
Or is it as simple as this or what do
we trust? What do we not? Is it Robert Salid?
Then it's really become confusing.
Speaker 4: Well here it has, I mean, here, here's one from
an eyewitness. Okay, Don Bongino, And if I say his name,
a lot of people like, oh really, Dan. Don Bongino
is a right wing talk show host. He's a former
Secret Service agent. He served under George W. Bush, he
served under Bill Clinton, he served under Obama. And I
don't think he got I think he was out by
the time of Trump. And he basically tweeted it. I
don't think. I don't think I have it. But oh,
here it is, he goes. I worked with Hillary Clinton.
She was evil. The stories agents around her have and
have kept bottle up inside our horrendous working on her
d tail was generally considered a punishment assignment. You will
never meet a more mercenary and destructive public public figure
in your lifetime. She hates you, all of you. Now,
I mean, you have stories like that about everybody.
Speaker 2: Sure, So who do you trust? I don't know about
Trump tru for office, and.
Speaker 4: I know people who in the medical community who hated
Vivac Ramaswami, who, to me, if all the presidential candidates
made the most sense, Oh, but he's brown, so we
can't vote for him in Iowa.
Speaker 2: Sorry, but it's a it's a weird were like what
it's a very weird time from a simple little Oh,
it's clearly a joke. New York Jets just fucking fired me, right,
I mean, there's no way, but he sat out there
and said that, right, but we'd love it if he did.
And then you know, that's all I'm saying. Yeah, that's extreme,
but all the information is a little twisted. And so
when you hear the conspiracy theorist, I go, I can't
go down there because I be like, you won't want
to live. No, it makes you crazy, relaxed people.
Speaker 4: Right, deep breath like I mean today I saw a
tweet from well when we talked to Eric Bishop, Yes, okay,
and he recommend a gut him. Cali means CALLI means
was an ex lobbyist. He worked for Coca Cola until
he figured out what Coca Cola was doing with the
food to manipulate, what the food industry industry was doing
to manipulate you know, the calories and manipulate eating habits.
Speaker 2: And making it addictive.
Speaker 4: His sister went on Joe Rogan Show recently and talked
about how like seventy percent of all Americans are either
diabetic or pre diabetic, and how heart disease is preventable,
but most people will die of that in this country,
like eight hundred thousand people. And she's just showing facts
and why because we've been told for years sugar's.
Speaker 2: Good, that's the enemy.
Speaker 4: And it was all like a PR campaign and advertising,
and we've been eating nothing but junk for breakfast our
entire like childhood lives. And then autism's up, like young
people like are getting cancer at explosive rates. Coldheimer's colon
cancer is huge. Why we ate cereal for the first
eighteen years of your life.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I still eat cereal once in a while.
We have a good ball cereal.
Speaker 4: Like crack an oat brain. You think is healthy for you, No,
it's not. It's one of the most unhealthiest foods you
can eat.
Speaker 2: Probably a special ks too, But I eat it once
in a while. I've been known to be your best
if you don't eat a good breakfast. I've had a
special k if you can ping it inch. I even
Captain Crunch once in a while. Not a lot, a lot.
Speaker 4: But there's always a price to pay for the life.
You choose, Yeah, to be American. Yeah, we have more
than everybody else, a lot more, and we're paying for it.
Speaker 2: Well, this is the way to pay for it. Let
me tell you something that's good about being an American, though, Danny, I.
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Speaker 5: Hurricane Mountains Crawling. He's on his way, tearing through our
dreams like a title hold on ty to you treasure.
Time to pack it up and leave for Vans in
a week. Fencing through the cur.
Speaker 2: Love that life, piaters no morsus on stage so much
tells you, well, run wild. It's my wife's Beth on
lead vocals. It's right and healthy. Hurricane Milton, kids forget
yeah on all the way from Tampa. Right in the
path of Milton is the younger Barrillo, the youngest, the
youngest Barrillo. Yes, Ryan Barrillo. Look at this guy.
Speaker 4: Hey, buddy looks like he can wrestleator. That he's big,
he's jack.
Speaker 2: He looks like he can wrestle an alligator that came
up in they culled a second that song Who washed
up at Milton? It's funny what happened? Danny kick your ass?
Speaker 4: It he could? In fact, yeah he still yeah he could.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: He he once told me this. Hey, you're starting to
get pecks. Now this is like five years ago.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, uh so it's nice to meet you. Ryan.
He looks kind of like I mean, obviously you could
tell your siblings, but he looks more like your sister.
Speaker 4: He could be like, you know, well, he's also eleven
years younger. You know what I'm saying that the rest
of us.
Speaker 2: So he's hearing. Yeah, we can hear you. Can you
hear us?
Speaker 7: All right? Yeah, I can hear you as well. I
just my I had some audio issues in my headphones
a minute ago.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Well, how are how are things right now
for you in the path of Milton.
Speaker 7: Well, it's getting pretty windy over here. Power obviously, so
that's a great sign as long as we don't get
don't lose power because I'm about seven miles inland, so
really the wind shear dies down a lot by the
time it gets to us, but the storm surge is
what is concerning for people near the coast. Now, Luckily
I'm a little bit inland. I'm not in an evacuation
zone or anything. So okay, it really uh you know,
we're kind of an afford that spot here. He's got
to worry about losing power and uh water too, Yeah,
the wind.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Did they tell you to fill up your bathtubs?
Were you? Were you? Yeah?
Speaker 7: I filled up my bath subs just in case they
issue uh no, no water use. Usually they'll shut off
the water.
Speaker 2: Do you know what that's for? Danny?
Speaker 4: So you have water access to water when you need
it to flush the toilet.
Speaker 2: To flush the toilet, toilet, very glad you said that. Yeah,
I don't know that I would use it for anything
other than flushing the toilet. I and let everybody get
a little ripe for a day or so, throw on
some dealer and will be okay, you know, maybe a
dip up washed off. Well, yeah, see that's smart. That's
intell right there, that's the burrilla intell.
Speaker 4: He's an Air Force guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, okay, so he's smarter than than your average barilla. Certainly. Well.
Speaker 4: Our oldest sister who passed away a few years ago.
Today's her birthday. She she was a pH d an
immunology of microbiology.
Speaker 2: Look at this.
Speaker 4: My sister Stephanie, of course, is a marketing director.
Speaker 2: Yes, that we know.
Speaker 4: My brother Joel is a top doge for Truider. My
brother Ryan was in the Air Force logistics.
Speaker 2: And there's me doing a podcast. Did you uh where
did you train? You didn't spend it? Did you spend
any time in Colorado?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 8: All?
Speaker 7: I lived in Colorado Springs and I was stationed at
Peterson Air Force Yes, I did training at Lachland Air
Force Base. That was about where my basic training was.
And then I I spent some time in Keysler Airports,
air Force Base in Biloxi, Mississippi. From there we went
to Colorado. We lived there for six years. Loved it.
Speaker 2: Yeahful place, Colorado.
Speaker 7: I would move back in a heartbeat.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So you'd rather live in Colorado that I mean, take
what take the hurricane?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 2: You'd rather live in Colorado than Florida?
Speaker 7: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I would too, all right. I loved
it Colorado.
Speaker 7: Springs, not Denver. I hate Denver. Colorado Springs, great.
Speaker 2: Denver city and stuff.
Speaker 7: It's funny too. You go around the city. They don't
ask you. The homeless don't ask me for money. They're like, hey,
you got any bud?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well yeah. I had coffee with somebody the other
day who told me they were going to Vegas on
the because there's a direct flight now in southwest from
Rochester Vegas, and they were going with their wife, but
they were gonna drive it out to Hoover Dam and
they were gonna see all these different places, like within
a four hour stretch from Vegas on a couple of
the days. And then we were talking about Denver and
said that there are more weed shops than there are
coffee shops and gas stations. And I go, wait a second,
there's a Starbucks right where we live, right very soon
from right outside the studio. There's gonna be a Starbucks
literally across the yeah, next to that old bank. Yeah.
I'm not very happy about that because I like the
local coffee. This is a nice village, right, but there's
gonna be a Starbucks. There is a Starbucks inside I
think one of the grocery stores. And there is a
Starbucks that's another mile away. I mean, that's just here.
Go to New York's city are everywhere, and I would
assume Colorado would be similar, or Denver, excuse me, would
be similar, but not anyway, getting off topic, here is.
Speaker 4: We're I don't need no money, I just want to
get ha.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, forget your problems.
Speaker 4: I had homeless people, like when I lived off Monroe Avenue. Hey, listen,
I just want a beer. So my buddy Joe, who
worked for High Falls at the time, we used to
hand a beer. Yeah that's it, because I don't need
to I just I just want to drink. Yeah, okay,
here you go. They knew where to come.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure. Yeah, they kept the peace in the air
in the area. Absolutely.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no crime in my neighborhood.
Speaker 2: But with the I'm hearing too Ryan that there's gonna
be maybe eight inches of rain in parts of Florida.
And I don't know if that's where you are, but
that's a river, man. I mean, we watched a football
game the other night in Pittsburgh. They didn't get eight
inches of rain and there it was like waterfalls going
down the stairs of the stadium. So imagine that held
well though, imagine that. And then right here in Rochester,
we're underneath some of the overpasses on four ninety. When
we get to mental lake effect rain that just comes down,
it will build up to the point where it's above
like the roof of the hood of a car. So yeah,
I go, boy, that sounds really bad to me, just
the rain on the you know more inland.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the right where I'm located, I'm not located in
a flood zone, so I'm not too concerned. We do
have lakes around our house and stuff like that, But
for the most part, I'm not concerned about the rain.
I'm concerned about wind and losing power.
Speaker 2: Well, the wind, I get that. I understand that for sure, because.
Speaker 7: The grading on our house. Fortunately, like the grading on
our house, everything runs away from the house. And I'm
kind of I'm located ninety feet or yeah, ninety feet
above sea level, and then the grating is like ten
feet higher than the street, so like my house kind
of slopes upward by driveway does everything runs away from
my house? So I'm kind of like on a little hill.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, that's all right, that's smart planning that works.
Speaker 7: I mean, God said build your house.
Speaker 2: On a rock. That's right, Not on the sand, that's right,
sinking sand in the build your house.
Speaker 4: Upon the rock.
Speaker 2: Was Jesus Christ. That's very good. Look at that.
Speaker 4: Not Peter Catholics, Jesus.
Speaker 2: It's uh Ryan, U Ryan. Do you go to church
as well? He was, he should. Yeah, I don't know
what you do. Why did you beat them up?
Speaker 7: You? Dan asked me, like, religiously, are you going to church?
Are you going to church? Making making sure I'm going
to church? Yeah, I mean I go.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 7: It's harder in Florida to find that community like uh, Dampa.
Speaker 2: Probably more likely to find a swinger community.
Speaker 4: They called Tampa white trash Miami.
Speaker 2: Thinking like, you know, we got this swinger church. Yeah,
there's a lot of what does Yeah, yeah, what's what
are Duley's.
Speaker 7: But honestly, I kind of compared to Buffalo of Florida.
Speaker 4: It's like the flow Florida I could see.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it really is. And it's actually a pretty
tight knit community. There's good people here. Florda's not as
bad as it seems on the news. Uh, but I
will I will tell you what.
Speaker 4: Because he listens to this podcast. Do we talk about
Florida a lot with those odd stories?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, but I didn't think a lot were happening
at Tampa though we're a lot in Tampa.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you guys mentioned Tampa fairly often on his I
do listen a lot.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 7: It's not as bad as seem. Although the first week
I was here, my wife and I were driving on
the I seventy five and we're about to hit our
exit and I see I look over to my right
and I'm like, honey, they're loading a body into that
that car right there, and and he looks at me.
She's like, oh my god, what do we do? And
I see, like half a mile up there's a cop
and he's got a guy pulled over, so we pulled
behind him. I'm like waving him down. I'm like, hey, hey, hey,
you know, like and he comes up to my windows,
like him the mittle to stop here, you know. Like,
I'm like, there's a guy in a white Drango loading
the body in a car back there on the side
of the highway. Meanwhile, while I'm talking to the cop,
the guy gets out of like the guy who's out
of his car. He starts going through his stuff and
he starts dumping drugs on the side.
Speaker 2: Of the road they got pulled over.
Speaker 7: Yeah, this guy's a nervous wreck and he's just like
looking and trying to, you know, make sure that we're not,
you know, gonna die him out. And he's just like
dumping the seeing like waving his hand in the dirt,
kind of spreading around. And I'm telling the cop about
this this guy with the body, and I guess, uh,
it was some guy who was hitchhiking or something and
he had heat exhaustions. People took him the hospital. So
worse what Florida man. Yeah, yeah, but it's actually some
good Samaritans doing.
Speaker 2: Something well you wouldn't know. Yeah, that's true. I mean
you wouldn't know, Yeah, it would be.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Concerning I'm like, they're blowing a body in this truck.
Speaker 4: Well, the first time I moved into Rochester into the city,
an apartment I lived at April and you may have
been helping me move in, right, and there's there's a
body being taken out of the house two doors down. Now,
I think they die in natural causes.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, oh, that's a great sign. Yeah, that's
that's not a good sign at all. Now are they
expecting I mean they're they're I think it was the
mayor of Tampa. Yes, I'm not mistaken who said people
will die in this.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he did say that they're pretty good at raising
the fear level. So it's more of the people in
the coast. On the coast, right, the people that die
are the people that failed to evacuate. And like, you're
able to get out of the flood zones, Well, you
don't get out of the flood zones. You are probably
going to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not in an evacuation area. But they were
what you're saying. Yeah, so Santa bell Island, for example,
I think somebody was saying they were going to stay
on Santa Bell Island, and anybody who with any knowledge
of this sort of stuff was saying, your home won't
be a coffin because the storm surge comes in. And
if we have fifteen foot surges, that's above your house
and it's coming through and you're not going to be
able to open a door to get out, right, And uh, yeah,
that's some pretty scary stuff I could imagine. I mean,
you know, my my parents' house burned down, lost everything.
Uh it's a very scary thing to feel like everything
you have is gone. But everything you have is replaceable.
The thing that's not is you and your loved ones. Well,
your wedding pictures.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you don't want to I know I have a wedding. Yeah,
I don't know anything while you were in that one.
Speaker 7: Yeah that's the one I made.
Speaker 2: Luck. So it's your fault.
Speaker 4: So let me what compelled you to stay behind though?
I mean, like, when this first warning came out, how
soon ago? How long ago were you guys warned about this.
Speaker 7: I started socking up on Saturday. As soon as they
turned it into a hurricane. I'm like, all right, I'm
going to the store getting packs of water. I feel
both our tanks. So I got like four four packs
of water, and I got a culligan thing full. I
got a ton of stuff, and then we went and
got food and Ken Goods. So we started stocking up
on Saturday. My wife's kind of wanted to leave. But uh,
you know, with that the other hurricane that just came through,
is where do we evacuate to? Everywhere that you normally
go in the South, they're kind of dealing with their
own issues. So at this point, I'm like, you know,
we never really They always hype it up and we
never really experienced it too bad where we're at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was funny. I was going to ask that
is it one of those, because we've had that with
snowstorms right where oh, you're expecting the worst, it's going
to be a blizzard and then nothing really happens. But
I don't know if I don't know with this one,
I don't know.
Speaker 7: If you guys can hear the wind blowing right now?
Speaker 2: Was that what that was?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I just felt my house shake a little bit. Actually.
Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, so now do you have storm any kind
of shutters or yeah?
Speaker 7: I have. I got hurricane shutters. They're made out of kevlar.
They're not like your typical steel shutters, so you know
they I don't think they'll stop my window from being broken,
but it will stop something from penetrating my house, which
is important.
Speaker 2: Yeah you don't need.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I have a two story house, so I mean
you gotta get up in the ladder and put all
those up. And so when the Bills were losing at
halftime on Saturday, I just put on W g R.
And went outside and I was like, all right, I'm
just gonna listen to the game and put on the
shutters because they suck. And uh, you know, I got
all the shutters done, and then I went and did
all my neighbors as well.
Speaker 2: Wow, look at this. See now that you know what
that is, Dan, It's that's being a good neighbor. That's
being a good Christian. And so you worry about I'm
not going to I would even say that that may
be more important than going to church. Well it's it's
it's a byproduct. Yeah, it's part of it. No, I man,
I I would say, like, I think, would you give
a hall pass if he said I spend Sunday morning?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah I could, Yeah I could see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just check.
Speaker 4: Make sure he's reading his Bible, he's praying, he's going
to church. He's giving us ten percent for every day.
Speaker 7: Dan, lovely for you.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. What was it like? Now, you were
eleven years older, so you guys really weren't even you know.
Speaker 4: So Ryan was born the night of Game six of
the twenty nineteen ninety one World Series. Kirby Puckett hit
a home run in the tenth inning the force of
Game seven. Okay, so that was the day that Ryan
was born. So yeah, I was eleven years older than him,
so we really like I went off to college when
he was going into second grade.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so you didn't really you weren't under the
same roof for much of his memory, right, yeah, okay,
so you were just big then.
Speaker 4: So I was good, I could say six through twelfth
sixth through twelfth grade, he was in my life.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then I spent like a couple of falls
on dance couch in Rochester.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, he did a couple falls. Well, he spent some.
Speaker 4: Time, like he lived with us for a little while
trying to find work. Said, he said, I'm going to
screw this one to go in the end, the Air Force,
which is a better idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that sounds like it looks like everything's
worked worked out for him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it worked out great. Air Force is the way
to go. You're thinking about joining the service if any
of your kids are or anything like that.
Speaker 2: Did you, uh do you? What do you do in
the Air Force? You're not a pilot, are you?
Speaker 7: I was a financial analyst, so I uh. I basically
I paid for I paid for everything for I used
to buy anything from missiles to jets, fuel for the jets. Actually,
I helped stand up the United Space States United States
Space Force. I used to when I was in Colorado.
You're I was under United States Space demand and then
I helped stand up the Space Force, which was really
a great cool experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is I was.
Speaker 7: Actually technically I'm the first budget analyst in the Space Force.
That's what.
Speaker 2: Wow. So your numbers, guy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the numbers are insane.
Speaker 2: Sure, I can't imagine one of those jets, you know,
I mean, it's gotta be like math. He just delivers
the money. It's gotta be like monopoly money, right. You
got to see numbers with so many zeros and different
things that you go, this can't be real. Yeah.
Speaker 7: You see some of the things out there and you're like,
I don't feel comfortable putting my name on this. Okay,
They're like, you're putting your name on that. I'm like,
all right, okay, you know it's.
Speaker 2: Like a happy Gilmore shot.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah. But I'm out now, so you know, now
I'm a civilian.
Speaker 2: Again, so oh you are.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I got out in August and now I'm doing
corporate finance.
Speaker 2: Okay, how do you like that?
Speaker 7: It's definitely it was a learning curve at first. You know,
I thought I was going to excel when I was
in the Air Force, and then this was like a
whole other level. Okay, but uh it's it's like, actually
been a great experience. I've learned a ton in the
last three months. And uh, you know, I feel like
I'm with a pretty good company and I'm happy.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this about that. You're in the
military where things are done on time, inefficiently and people
show up. Am I wrong? I don't know. I'm assuming.
I'm assuming the usually like okay, but there's usually like
I mean, these are some pretty focused, disciplined people. And
then when you get into civilian life. It's like, hey, Mary,
where's the budget? Well, it'll be tuesday. You know, I
don't know if that's the case. I'm asking. I don't know,
but I wonder is it hard to make that transition
from what would be more of a regimented world to
something that's not as regimented.
Speaker 7: So I think what part of drew me to this
company was kind of they are regimented. Okay, well, we
do have some business units out there that that don't
meet deadlines, and you know, we we have to kind
of push them through. But the same thing the Air Force.
You have civilians that work government civilians and they're impossible
to fire, so they can do whatever they want pretty much.
So you know, they they missed a lot of deadlines,
and you know, they would try to get you, being
an enlisted member, to do their work for them constantly,
like I'll go to your boss and I don't care, man,
you're gonna get this done. But they would always try
to take advantage of the system. And once you're in
that civilian system, it's almost impossible to fire you. So
I think the government is kind of inefficient, and from
that standpoint, they need to kind of rethink how they
their employment system.
Speaker 4: Well, they've talked about like if Trump gets elected, how
he might comment to your Elon Musk to be the
director of efficiency, like they would add an efficiency department
and just get rid of people.
Speaker 7: Think that would be a good idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you got get to fayeah right yeah, right yeah,
trim the fat a little bit. Right. That's interesting because
I had a family member who who spent a long
time in military life, was a captain and then went
into civilian life, and it was things like, you know,
I'm expecting my expense check to come at a certain
point and it doesn't. Then they're like, ah, yeah, I'm sorry,
we didn't get it. And that wasn't how this That's
not what this person was. That's the wind.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, it's starting to get pretty bad.
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you think the wind is right now?
Speaker 7: I think it's hitting at about probably forty miles an
hour fifteen maybe a gus.
Speaker 2: How old are your kids?
Speaker 7: I have an eight year old and a four year old.
Speaker 2: Actually she's going to be nine this month, So what
is how are they with this stuff? I mean, they
tell you how I saw like the National News talk
to your kids. Try to I don't know what you
say to try to leave you.
Speaker 7: I try not to get them riled up a little. Sure,
you know they can't help it. Over here. My wife
and I talk and they did. My daughter she understands
a little bit more so she gets scared. She's like,
is they're a tornade? Because a warning on our phone
before he came on the podcast. It was like blowing
up our phones. And so if she got a little
scared there, and I'm like, that's just they're they're saying
there's gonna be increased winds a little bit, you know,
just stay away from the windows. You know, we're just
trying to keep them calm.
Speaker 2: But will they sleep in right now? Yeah? I can
hear that. Would Would they sleep in your room tonight?
Speaker 7: We're sleeping downstairs in the living room. I threw the
guest mattress on the floor, and you know we're like
camping out watching movies. Yeah, yeah, having fun.
Speaker 2: Making an adventure. Yeah. All right, Well we won't keep you.
I I want to go go be with your family
and uh man, damn that that is something there.
Speaker 7: All right. It was great talking to you guys, and
thank you for having me on Bill. It's nice meeting you.
Speaker 2: Nice too. I hope you stay safe there and everything
works out for the best and this kind of blows
over quickly.
Speaker 7: All right, we'll do thank you. I'll keep you posted, Dan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, please you too, go Yanks. Wow that is geez.
Yeah you could hear it. Yeah, but hear it.
Speaker 4: But like your uncle stream but like yeah yah yeah, yeah,
but we're not moving back to New York.
Speaker 2: Well that was my uncle. But your brother would go
back to Colorado. Back to Colorado though, Yeah, oh, not
to do. Yeah, I see what you're saying. You know
what I'm saying. I see what's the conspiracy you're trying
to push over there, Dan, No, I'm teasing. I'm teasing.
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Speaker 9: At noxt Town night dancing spin him around. She had
that smile made my heart beat fast.
Speaker 2: Little did I know we have a laugh.
Speaker 9: That laugh took her through the chapel on a Friday
night and got hitched. I preacher in a soft little light,
walked out bread and thought the light's begun.
Speaker 2: Soon found out she's my cousin, just for fun. Kiss
in cousins.
Speaker 10: My own mind didn't know till the eagles dry. Family
trees Shu can be a twist.
Speaker 2: I'm marrying down and this is Uncle Joe just.
Speaker 9: About spit his beer when he heard what happened to
yell come here?
Speaker 2: Reddy laugh said, it ain't no faith around these parts.
Speaker 9: It's like family read sunny Deer, which got a whole
new hair.
Speaker 2: Folks are whispering, we don't care.
Speaker 10: Love's a funny thing, don't you agree, even if it.
Speaker 2: Runs in the family.
Speaker 10: Kiss in cousins my mine didn't know till the eagles dry.
Speaker 2: I uh, well, this is where I wonder if we
know too much information. But I was also thinking that
Milton sounds just like a friendly old man it does.
Hey Milt's coming in. Hey Milty. Just this big storm
but sounded bad, but you just said it's dropped to
a category two. Yes, right now, right now in Tampa. Yeah,
and that could change. I guess I don't know how
these things were. I don't know either.
Speaker 4: You think by now, with all these hurricanes we have
every fall, by now we'd figure it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I mean somebody probably down on the ground
there does. So I saw this stuff on and it
must have been a BuzzFeed and it was I was
going through and I went, do we know? Do we
have access? Maybe maybe I should put it that way
to too much information, because in certain instances you'd want
to know. But I think that most people would know
that this woman went on TikTok and she was kind
of being funny that she started dating this guy, really
liked the guy, and then went and married the guy
and find out when they were doing like a me
twenty three and me that they turned out to be
third cousins once room or something like that. Right, So
you had it was like their great great grandparents were
together and then everybody after that, and so the family
kind of splits in your and you go and I,
and she's like, you know, I got this look on
her face and obviously being funny for TikTok, but people
were like, man, that's you know, third cousin. I think
you're okay. I think legally you can get married. And
then I don't know that there's many genetic problems. I
think second cousins in New York State. I didn't know that. Yeah,
So so I'm going, do we have too much access
to things? Yes? To know because I could see where
they're just you get the ick about something and you
can't shake it. Oh yeah, do you understand what I'm saying,
Like you get the ick, you're like, ah, God, or
somebody keeps in your head like you're begging your cousin.
I'm not. I just I wonder. And then there was
this story about a husband and wife that were having
trouble having kids, so they wound up doing not surrogate,
but like, I guess almost test too, but I'm forgetting
that yeah, in vitro fertilizers. And they found out when
she did twenty three and me that the first kid
was biologically her and her husband's, but the second kid
was biologically hers and her and not her husbands and
was the half and like didn't have an identifiable father
in the twenty three and me that twenty three and
me could come up with. And I go, that could
really fuck your head up, because it's not as though
your wife went and slept with somebody else and got pregnant.
And it's like trying to pull the wool over your eyes.
It's simply that somebody made him a big mistake. Maybe
there's a malpractice suit. I would assume there probably is.
You should have one hundred percent confidence that this child
is both genetically yours and your own. But at the
same time, I go, if they hadn't done twenty three
and me, they'd never know. And does that make you
love this child any less? No, of course you help that.
But once you know my point is back of your head.
I don't know. And that's where I go, do we
know too much? So more in this sort of thing.
Speaker 4: So I I know somebody who found out recently that
their parents weren't their parents, and they found they were
a cousin of this family that raised them. Okay, And
so she was brought in as the middle child, and
her and her younger sister never knew any different knew
their parents, but they did notice after they found out
that the mom and dad were not her mom and dad,
that they were a relatives. And then they took the
child in and adopted because she was part of like
this this love affair, this love triangle. So they brought
her into the family as one of their own, and
she never quite looked like them. She did, but she
didn't there. She was family, but she wasn't like their family.
And the father when the kids will get in trouble,
was harder on her than the other two sisters, who
were biologically theirs. So I wonder if there's something psychologically
in the back of their heads that makes it like
you're not gonna love them as much as you'd love
your own.
Speaker 2: I don't know, that's a great question. I have no idea,
but that's such an interesting thing. And then I to
this case, like maybe you'd want to know them, may go, oh,
they're explained everything, Yeah, okay. But on the other hand,
the parents knew this case, in the IVF case, the
in virtual fet fertilization, they didn't know. And now I wonder, like,
what does the husband feel like we switched the eggs,
but do you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, or
the sperm was wrong because it is her eggs. It
just got fertilized with difference. Man, he's an NBA basketball player,
so we forgive them. I don't know, but my point
is like, you know, to your thing, does that change
the guy now? And and had he never known on
twenty three and me, would it not if.
Speaker 4: Joan had made a difference? Shouldn't difference?
Speaker 2: And I'm saying like, sometimes, you know, think of anybody,
if you talk to anybody, they'll tell you dating is hard, right,
and maybe you've had that experience yourself that dating is hard.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I would never want to go back to
doing it. It's hard dating my wife.
Speaker 2: But or other people will say, like you go on
dating apps, you meet somebody and all of a sudden,
you're like, god, we just hit it off. We have
so much in common, We've this, we've that, and I
don't know, maybe you sort of look like but not
really but whatever, and you just and it just is
everything's easy and flow. Man, it's just great. And then
you find out that you're fifth cousins. Yes, through a
twenty three and meters. Now, maybe that doesn't freak you out,
but maybe it freaks her out, good freaking. That's all
I'm saying is I go, are we knowing too much
when there's something that's good? Because there's no way and
I can't. You could take any country, but there's no
way in some small rural village of Ireland that it
couldn't be.
Speaker 4: Do you know what I'm saying, Yeah, a solute look
at how muche societies they go in circles and I'm
not trying to rip on them.
Speaker 2: Their society is so small, just small town. It's the
little villages in Italy. Oh yeah they do.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, of course it was all you know, bob
bob boo. But my father and his first wife, my
sister's mother, were fourth cousins. Now they knew it, okay,
but it was far enough to move where. But they
were a fourth cousin marriage. They did produce a doctor,
God bless them. Yeah, But I mean, like, you know,
it's it's it's one of Jerry Lee Lewis married his
second cousins.
Speaker 2: He's like fourteen or something like that. You know, it's south. Yeah,
it's a little strength, you.
Speaker 4: Know, But like I mean, if you if you love
each other, and I mean this has happened often.
Speaker 2: It happens in America.
Speaker 4: Like, wasn't there this one guy in the nineties. Saturday
Night Lived this sketch about it with John Goodman called
Just a thousand of Us and it was about a
dude who owned a sperm bank and he impregnated like
he donated his own spot.
Speaker 2: Yeah wait wait, wait wait, what what's this now? I
missed I was looking at a comment.
Speaker 4: Saturday I Live did a sketch about a guy in
the nineties. John Goodman played this guy. He was called
just the one thousand of Us or something like that,
or just the ten thousand of Us because it was
there's a so called Just the ten of Us at ABC,
so it's just a ten thousand of Us. And basically
it was about a dude who owned a sperm bank.
That's a true story, and it was on it was
on like Inside Aedition when Bill O'Reilly was hosting it,
and he donated his sperm to his own societ, his
own little sperm bank, and he ended up impregnating an
entire village. So they found out these all these kids
are dating each other who were all related to this guy.
Speaker 2: That's a problem. That's a problem. That's a problem. I
had to hear in Rochester.
Speaker 4: Yeah that doctor Whartman did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, doctor Whartman. No wonder he flew his plane his
makeshift playing off. I thought it was his buddy's makeshift
playing Yeah, it doesn't matter whose makeshift playing. I was amazing.
That was my thing is like, I go, do you
buy if my and yet I've always had this argument.
Speaker 4: I think it has stickers, don't fly it.
Speaker 2: I think we had this. I don't know where I had.
Do we have the discussion on the podcast? Yeah, because
I always go, I wouldn't. I'm not sure I would
go up in a homemade plane. I've seen home improvement projects.
I don't trust the fucking wallume people put together on
their desks. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, but not the
safe egg. But at the same time, if someone said
to me, hey, I bought an ultra light one of those.
Basically it's a go kart with wings, and I see
those flying over the finger Lakes every once in a
while when I was out in the kayak, I go,
I might take a ride in that. I might be
willing and that looks like you do it comes in
a kit and you've got to put it together, right.
There's kit cars that guys buy that they put together themselves.
They snap in and they do everything, and I'm sure
they have to pass some kind of tests. But there's
something about a plane. Yeah, I go, if you built
this yourself, I don't know. I've seen I've seen you
prepare a meal.
Speaker 4: It's not I have a friend named Sean, he's a pilot,
and we asked them about skydiving.
Speaker 2: You see skydivers out there.
Speaker 4: He goes, only two things fall out of the sky
bird shit and assholes. And I think part of my language,
but I think if you're flying a makeshift plane like that, yeah,
you're probably the ladder of those.
Speaker 2: Well, all I know is Wartman was accused of and
it was like playing god. Yes, because he was impregnating
women that couldn't that were having trouble getting pregnant. I
think with his sperm and so and it was again
I'm pretty sure it's a twenty three and me test.
Speaker 4: Yes, that proved all these kids.
Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden they go, yeah, you got
a match here here and here, and that's it. Like
I know somebody who found a kid. They gave up
for adoption found them. Oh no kidding. Yeah.
Speaker 4: But on the flip side, though, twenty three meters Also,
there was a girl who was murdered in like eighty
four or eighty five in Rochester, and the dude who
committed the crime flew down to Florida and was there
till about twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: The twenty three and me test.
Speaker 4: The familial DNA linked him because somebody did a test
and it linked him back to the crime scene and
they solved the crime.
Speaker 2: How did it link him back to the back I don't.
Speaker 4: Know, but like I guess somebody on the line made it. Like, Look,
they store all this DNA evidence, right, yeah, and then
they run these cold cases and tests and they try
to link up because you get more information based on
all these tests. But here's the flip side. I know
people who took a twenty three meter test and then
an ancestry dot com test that came up with completely
different results with the same person. It This test is
some fifty three percent Italian, this test is I'm seventeen.
So how reliable are these tests? That's the other thing
you got to consider too. Because it's not the same
recipe for lack of a better term, that determines these DNAs.
Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't know that, right, I didn't know that.
I haven't seen anything like like.
Speaker 4: Me and my brother we just had on the show,
could do the test and be I could be more
irish than him according to one test, and then on
the other test we both could be one hundred percent Italian.
I mean, it depends on the technology behind the test.
Speaker 2: Nothing is foolproof. That's interesting. But the but the number
of people that have been finding people through the twenty
and it seems like twenty three and me is the
one that's more popular. But I know that there's ancestry
dot com. I just I there's a certain point where yes,
I guess, I guess knowledge is power period end the story.
The more you know, the better. But I sometimes I
go thing, I go, I don't know if i'd want
to know if I were that guy and I'm raising
this kid, would I when the kid was really pissing
me off, like, it's not my kid, it even.
Speaker 4: If it, even if it lowers your even if it
Because we're all human, right, We're all weak people in
need of a great god, as I say.
Speaker 2: But the thing is, though, we're all human.
Speaker 4: So even if that decreases your love for your child
or that child, or even you're like for that child,
or your judgment of that child in one moment, even
if it brings it down one degree, that's awful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's terrible, That's what I'm saying.
It's like, it's not mine.
Speaker 4: You're gonna be harder on them or easier because now
you're not letting them get away with something, or you're
letting them get away with something. Wouldn't let your son
go away with previously?
Speaker 2: My kid do that?
Speaker 4: But good, I'm saying, yes, and thought, that's scary. We're
better off not knowing some of this stuff you're I've
never taken a twenty three and me test. I'm happy
being will I say fifty percent Italian, so go to
the UH. I don't want to be forty nine percent Italian.
I like being more Italian than anything else. It's a
pride thing.
Speaker 2: How Italian are you do you think? Honestly?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I'm more Irish than anything else. People
tell me I'm more like my mother and less.
Speaker 2: Like my father. Oh, Okay, your mom Irish?
Speaker 4: Yeah, my mother, my mother's half Irish. My grandmother was
one hundred percent Irish. Yeah, my father was one hundred
percent Italian. Okay, so I'm half Italian according to my parents,
a quarter Irish and a quarter like Anglo Sex and
other fillers and other fillers.
Speaker 2: You know, they got a chicken nugget. Yeah, father, you're
a mutt. Dan, You're a mutt. I was okay, Yeah,
I'm pretty much all Irish all the way through. Oh
I can tell. I think my mom was ninety nine
percent and whenever she did an wasn't there something about it?
Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to be like facetious, but like,
wasn't there a discussion in your family about the black
Irish and how you may be black Irish or something
like that?
Speaker 2: Is that true black Irish? Black Irish is a term,
not not not for black, no, not meaning black people
black hair, but yeah, that it was the the Vikings
or the Spaniards or somebody had come through and landed
in Ireland, right, And so they get because you don't
look necessarily Irish, and you do if you were in Ireland.
Oh okay, yeah, if you were in Ireland. You see
a lot of dark haired it is. But you're right,
because what we see is the red haired, fair skinned, right,
that kind of person.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the stereotypical you got it, because like there's people
who are actually stereotypically looking Irish who were actually Italian. Yeah,
Northern Italy is like loaded was redheaded, yes, Italian?
Speaker 2: Or I got a Budy who's a red head Italian Bartolomeo.
I thought that was Polish Bartolomeo, Yeah, no, okay, usually
Polish is uh Ski maybe.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, I figured that from your buffalo. Yeah, there's
like no Polish people in Rochester, no very few. Yeah, Ukrainian, yes, yes,
freak sure, the not Polish.
Speaker 2: But uh yeah no, most would look like us.
Speaker 4: They stopped at the Ford plants.
Speaker 2: But Bono, yeah Irish. If you look at yeah, you're right. Yeah, Okay,
Darren Wynn who I don't know if you met Darren,
but yeah, oh yeah yeah. But if you if you
see Darren, yeah, and you look at a picture of Darren,
he looks like Bono. Yes, and he's dark haired, right,
you put the glasses out him, give him some long hair,
so he just looks like Bono. He's got the same nose,
and so I was like, so it's not exactly the
way it was pictured, but probably who knows. I would
you take a twenty three and meter test? No, I
don't think. So here's the thing that it's starting as
you're talking about this. Yeah, all the DNA stored and stuff.
I had a conversation today and I and I'm I'm
debating right because my life has changed drastically and from
what was happening over the past four or five years
to now. Right, my food bill has gone way out
all this stuff. So it's ionomics, which is wonderful. Well
it's not. It's not that I'm telling about. I got
James to living with me. I got a fourteen year
old kid who was six foot one, So all that
stuff has changed in my schedule. Like I could show
you my calendar, and I was getting myself all worked
up today because I was almost an hour off my schedule,
Like I got videos I need to do, and I
got prep I need to do in meetings. I gotta
get doing this, and it's all in my calendar. Man
boom boom, boom. And I have never been like that.
I have said that I floated through life. I've never
done a personal budget. I just went and lived. I
didn't care. I never ran out of money. I never
was very worried about that. My life has done a
complete one eighty from the radio. Everything I had it
was great. I had a great ride. For a long time.
I had a great ride. I worked very hard at it.
But that's all I had to do was come up
with shit to talk about and make it as entertaining
and it's informative. And I like to think a little
bit intelligent as possible. And could we win? And we did? Yes,
we did. We did. Other places did and that was
fine and it was great. And we're here too, and
I yes, and I went and I and during that time,
I was making money and you had corporate stuff behind
you and you had chances to make other money and
then and now it's all different because it's all kind
of on my back and you're trying to figure that out.
No complaint about any of that, but I'm just saying, like, now,
it's just different. So I am scheduled and regimented and scheduled.
And my brother and I were talking and he's like, uh,
I was saying something about my son, and he goes, well,
just share your location with each other on your phone,
and I said, uh, oh, yeah, I said, I don't
have one of the apps like that. You know, like
there's a life three sixty and you can see how
fast someone is driving. Right, So yes, And I don't
think that that's necessarily a terrible thing. You want to
keep your kids alive, so that your kid just got
their license and you want to go, hey, man, I
did see on that road where it's thirty five miles
an hour you were doing fifty five. Yes, you lose
it on a turn, buddy. You know, I'm telling you
if I see that again, we're gonna we're going to
cut back on driving for a while or whatever. You
got to be the parent, right, And as my old
man said, it was about keeping me alive. I never
had Thank god, I didn't have any of that stuff.
But I was like, I don't know if I want
to share my location. I don't. So my brother's like,
you just share it with you know, the phone, then
you know where he is and he'll know where you are.
And that's not a bad thing, right, that's not a
bad thing. And I go no, and then he's like, yeah,
I mean why friends were talking about it and we
all share our locations with each other, and he's like,
some people go out some vasion in privacy, But he goes,
you know, once a while, we'll look at a phone
and go, hey, what's time doing in Phoenix?
Speaker 7: Hey?
Speaker 2: Time you're in Phoenix? How buddy? I go, I don't
know if I like this same thing with the twenty
three and meters? And then do you start to sound
like a conspiracy nut, which is what we started talking
about tonight. Well, is someone collecting the DNA? Is it
necessarily a bad thing? How to kill people? Because learning
your DNA help you and stuff. There's DNA that we
don't that is not coded in our body, that's uncoded,
that right, and they're finding all kinds of things about
that and how that can change and you can help,
can we edited life and different things at whatever? But
the point being, I'm simply when it comes to a
privacy thing, I don't know. I don't like to be
one of those people, but I don't know. Here's a story,
not that I'm doing anything.
Speaker 4: When I was dating Beth, when we first started dating,
there was this guy, other guy who liked her and
got her location and tracked her were you doing on
this street.
Speaker 2: At these hours? Oh?
Speaker 4: That type of stuff. It's like, oh really, really, you prick,
you're serious? I told her, I go, what, well, there's
your evidence right there. What do you need him in
your life?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean that's that's insane controlling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
said that. I want to be like, right, I want
to be like I Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, that that's the thing. I'm not sure. I'm not
sure if if it was like if I were married
and somebody said to me, hey, we should do a
twenty three and me because uh you know, uh, I
don't know. I think we have a cousin in common
or relative and commoner. You look a lot like maybe
I'd do it then, but and then at the same time,
and that's where I go, it's too much knowledge, too
much fucking knowledge. Do I not want to know? Understand?
On the flip side, On the flip side, yeah, buddy.
Speaker 4: When you're young, yeah, you want to make sure that
your family is everything, and you always dreamed it could
be from what you know. I mean, you know, say,
like like the ideal fan that there were no like
extra kids somewhere that you never found out about. When
you've gotten older, have you ever wondered, you know, it
might be cool if I found out that I had
an extra brother somewhere, or an extra or my grandpa
had was we was working on the railroad in Cleveland,
found out he had a different family.
Speaker 2: That'd be so cool.
Speaker 4: For a second, I actually thought that today. Of course
you did, because like what, I don't know why, because
you're crazy? Yeah, I mean yeah, but it's like, are
you that bored damn that you actually like oticize?
Speaker 2: Am I having extra family? I'll give you. I'll give
you a story that I do know. Family that I
grew up with, and I really liked the oldest sibling.
It was a year younger than me, the oldest guy,
and my brother was very close with the other brothers
who must have there must have been a big age
gap in there. I don't know, because my brother and
I are eight years apart, and uh, this guy all
of a sudden. The mother and father had divorced, probably
more when the kids were in high school or whatever,
and I remember because their mom went from heavy set, oh,
just belieguered mom, right, you're running the kids everywhere to
she started doing like I don't know what no, no,
some kind of this is the eighties, Dan, I don't
even know if she was doing No, this is the eighties,
this is VHS tape. She was doing some kind of
aerobic exercise and it was like she came out of
a cocoon and it was like, God, damn, your mom's hot.
And the next thing you know, the the uh, the
least eligible bachelor in town was kind of like shacking
up with her. She put it all back on. But
that's not the point of the story. The father had
I when he was fifteen, had gotten a girl pregnant.
None of these guys knew, and they put the kid
up for adoption. So he's older, right, because these guys
are ones younger than me. But this father had him
when he was fifteen, so the guys adopted parents had
both passed and he wanted his kids to have a grandparent.
And he found the mom and she basically was like,
I don't want anything to do with you, which much
I can't imagine it said like that, but I can
understand the sentiment of, oh boy, I don't want to
even admit that this. I have so much guilt around it,
and I'm judged better off leaving it in that box
over there, and it's not for me. And the father
was like, yeah, welcome into his life. Well, the kid
is like really successful. This kid that went up for adoption,
he's really successful, and he takes a father on trips
and he goes golfing with him, takes him on golfing
trips at all. And like the other brothers, they're not
not successful, but they're not as success. No one of
them just drop drop of a hat and go to
He became like the favorite son, the kid that was
given up for adoption, right, But for the guy who
did the twenty three and me who's seeking his family,
I don't know, Like he found what he wanted and
he got what he wanted, and the father probably I
can't imagine. I would think like I do think you
and I will probably disagree on this, but will disagree
the way cordial people disagree. I think women should have
a choice in terms of whatever they do. I do.
I think there should be some kind of we'll call
it a cutoff period during a pregnancy in terms of
ending it. Yeah, probably I think that there should be.
I'm not smart enough to figure out exactly when that is.
But let's have a debate and talk about it. But
I do think that women's rights should be that I
think in a personal situation. Uh, And I can say
this now is an older guy, I would hope that
adoption would be because there are so many people out
there that would love to have a child to raise. Yes,
and just really want that. Oh yeah, and what a
gift you are giving. And if you're that young, it
can alter the course of your life and make things
harder and make it even harder for the kid, and
you can become resentful as parents. We've heard the story,
we've seen it, we've seen it play out. So I
think that that's such a wonderful gift. And I know
somebody who did it and then later on through a
twenty three and meters was wound to reconnect it and
has a wonderful relationship. But I can't imagine, though, at
some point would you feel guilty, Like there's got to
be days where you wonder, did I do the right thing?
Even if even if you were fifteen, even if you
were nineteen, whatever, you know, and not even at nineteen,
you're not really ready to take it on life and
a baby. I'm not saying you can't. I think people
have and have been very successful and raise great families,
and that's not what I'm saying. But for some people
it's just not the right thing thing, and so adoption
is a great thing. But I do wonder. Do you
always think in the back of your head, I hope,
I hope, I hope that they're treating that. I wonder
what he's doing or she's doing that. I wonder. I
don't know. I don't know. I don't know if you do.
I would think the same thing with abortion. By the way,
do you wonder what would have happened had I not?
I don't know.
Speaker 4: Every every situation, like if you if you have an abortion,
right and then nine months later a friend of yours
has a baby, and then that baby, you watch that child,
that friend of yours grow up and grow up, and
then you wonder, did my son or daughter could have
been that age, would.
Speaker 2: Be getting married.
Speaker 4: I would think that they're getting out of college at
this point, would they be doing this? I'll give you
I'll give you a couple of stories. An old bandmate
of mine, Mike, found out that his father was and
his father threw a twenty three me and tested reconnected
with his brothers who didn't even know that their father
like fooled around. So he grew up his whole life
thinking he was Italian. He had an Italian last name.
It turns out he was Scottish.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: And he's he's connected with that family in Massachusetts and
they love the fact they had an extra brother. Yeah,
that's kind of why I thought about that. Sure would
be funny if you know, yes, but I was a kid,
that'd be devastating. But now it's like, yeah, who cares.
Speaker 2: Bring him in? Right? Sure? Yeah? More than Marrier?
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And and and then the person I know who got
reconnected because the kid did a twenty three meters their
family if I was welcomed that kid in and everything's straight.
Speaker 4: So here's a story about grace underfire. After my father died,
a guy in town who I highly respect and liked,
had an affair with a woman, and my uncle calls
me out.
Speaker 2: He goes, you're not gonna leave this Dan.
Speaker 4: I guess he was just guess you had an affair
and has a kid coming out of wedlock. He tells
me who, And I'm like, holy cow, Well I went
to school with his This baby's sisters, right, And but
the mother was the one who really couldn't raise the kid,
and the father was like, I'm trying to avoid this.
So she made a spectacle of him publicly. She had
a restaurant. She would paint well, you know, like how
you put like the numbers on cars and paint on glass.
She would she like, take responsibility for your son, take responsibility. Well,
she ended up with some trouble and he and his
wife never split up. And you want to talk about
grace underfire, that woman, his wife end up raising that
boy who wasn't hers as her own.
Speaker 2: I know, I'm people who have been in a similar situation,
like he looks at her as his mom.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, that's grace. It is under fire. It really
is a situation. Spinning it into gold Man, Uh, we.
Speaker 2: Will take a moment. How weird were the Presley's? How
weird were the Presley's. There's a story out there that
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Speaker 6: Love Me Tender, love Me Sweet, never letting me go?
You how made my line complete? And I love you.
Speaker 3: So stop you wonderful, love me true?
Speaker 2: Oh my dreams. I saw this weird story. Lisa Marie
Presley was working on a I guess a biography autobiography
Excuse Me Before she Died memoir, and in it she
talked about her son who had committed suicide, who looked
a lot like a yeah he did, yep, a lot
like him and uh so in it she said, uh
she kept his body at her home two months after
he died, four two months.
Speaker 4: Did she had like taxiderm him or something or have.
Speaker 2: Him tax In California, there's no law that says you
have to be buried, Okay, so she kept it, like
I think I think they called it the Well, basically,
it would be like some people have an in law
apartment attached to the back of their house. Yes, so
there's a bedroom back there or whatever. It's not the
main part of the house. She kept it there and said,
I felt so fortunate that there was a way that
I could still parent him. Okay, sounds insane to me, right, Well, everybody, Well,
i'll go, I'll get to you. But I mean, I'm
just saying, like, on the surface, the first thing is like, yeah,
right right, I felt so fortunate that there was a
way that I could still parent him. Delayed a bit
longer so that I could become okay with laying him
to rest. Now she goes further, and of course you know,
you're I don't even know if the book is exactly
out yet, and we're getting excerpts of it now much
like the Woodward book about Trump, and it goes on
to say that really she was trying to figure out
with Benjamin did she to rest in California or does
she lay him to rest at the Preshley State in
Graceland with his grandfather. And I think it was a
hard decision to make, and a funeral parlor helped her
basically keep him on ice in their home. But I go,
that is so fucking weird to me. Okay, doesn't that
sound strange? Like I don't know that I could do
that now. I bring them up last night the dogs
were in here. They are doing a charity on Saturday
at railroad station and out in Greece, and it's Russell Station,
thank You.
Speaker 4: I kept thinking, real railroad station sounds like.
Speaker 2: I think railroad station's in Victor, And that's why I
kept saying that yesterday Russell Station. So they're gonna be
out thank you out of Russell Station. But it is
for suicide prevention that that is the charity. I'm not
getting the exact name of the charity, but that's what
it's to benefit. And he died a suicide, so I
can't imagine like you can't tell somebody who's grieving their
child what's the right thing and what's the wrong thing
to do. I would never think that. But the weird
part is he had so Riley is the other daughter
is the is Riley, Riley Kele. And Riley says that
that it was just so, it was just it just
sounds like such a weird situation to be in that
your mom is obviously distraught over the fact that your
brother committed suicide twenty seven years old, and she is
writing it's the memoir is called From Here to the
Great Unknown. And Riley finished the book because Lisa Marie
died before it was finished. And I think that there
was a time where Benjamin had a tattoo of maybe
Lisa Marie's name on his collar bone and in a
certain font, right in a certain style, and then had
his sister's name tattoos somewhere else on his body. And
so they bring the tattoo artist into their house to
look at the tattoos on the dead Benjamin because they
wanted to get Benjamin's name where he had their name
on his body. Doesn't you see what I'm saying. So,
if Lisa Marie was on the collar bone. Lisa Marie
wants it in the same font, same style as Benjamin
had it. They don't know where he got the tattoo.
They can't ask him, but he's laying there. So could
you mention being the tattoo artist. You don't say weird
picture this. We'll think about this.
Speaker 4: A tattoo artist has probably done some weird stuff the
weird places.
Speaker 2: Yes, so, but this has to be the weirdest. This
is the stranger This is the strangest. I want you
to look at my dead son's tattoo. I want to
have it in the same font, same ink. Do you
have a picture? No? Can you come buy the house?
His body's in the back room, Like, that's the part
that's weird. Couldn't you just take a picture and show them?
These artists are great, come over the tattoo artist. Even
in the Great Rector, they're wonderful. Yeah, really really great artists.
It's true he's got a artist, but that and even
Riley says that may be the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
And in this memoir, one of the things that Lisa
Marie said was after Elvis passed, they kept his body
in the house I think for almost two months to
help with closure for her because she was just a
little girl that he had died. How fucking weird is that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, they kept the body there for two months.
Then they bought, Yes, then I think they did. Then
they brought him. He was buried like not far originally
he was buried not far from Graceland, like across town,
but not far. And of course, because it's Elvis Presley,
there were gray robbers. Oh yeah, so Verne his father decided, Okay, no,
we're gonna take him and his mother and we're gonna
bring their bodies exzoom them and put them in Graceland, gotcha?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 4: And I've been to Graceland, yes, and it looks a
lot bigger on TV than it is. It's very intimate
and you'll tear up when you walk through there, just
the natural because like there's houses to like back in
the seventies, Graceland look or even the sixties when it
was built, Graceland was enormous. Right nowadays it looks like
a house that you'd see like in your neighborhood.
Speaker 2: It's not that big.
Speaker 4: You know, it's a big property, but it's not that big.
It's very intimate, and I'm trying to figure out. First,
they don't let you go upstairs. I guess Lou Graham
and his band got to go upstairs at one point
when they toured Graceland. But you have to stay downstairs
or going to the jungle room. That's it. You're not
allowed to go up the stairs. Everybody wants to go
upstairscause that's where Elvis died. They'll show you everything else,
but you can't go upstairs. And I'm trying to figure out,
like where they kept the body of Elvis during this
whole time. Was it in the I mean, was it
in this bedroom? Probably that's the only place because in
England they used to keep the body, you know, in
the bedroom, bed, in the bed until you know they
buried them. But oh my goodness, I mean, that's got
to play in your nerves and then you wonder, you
wonder how First of all, okay, let's just do the
Elvis family tree really quickly. Elvis was a twin, he survived,
his brother died, right, Okay, he goes in, he walks
into sun Wrecords just to cut a record for his
mother and Miriam, the receptionist thought he was so good
that she had Sam Phillis take a look at him.
Speaker 2: And that's how his career started, was totally by accident.
Speaker 4: So here's this redneck kid, or he'll billy kidd, who
has no concept of fame, never particularly sought it, and
all of a sudden, within like twenty four hours, is
now going to become this rising star.
Speaker 2: And he has no sense of any of this.
Speaker 4: He's an only child and he's born to very like,
very very humble parents and then all of a sudden
he's on this fast track to start him and then
he wants to settle down in his life. So what
does he do, Oh, like what a lot of people
in Germany do when they're serving overseas. I'm gonna starts
dating a fourteen year old girl because she happens to
be from the United States, right, So now she's not
mentally equipped to deal with this.
Speaker 2: Her parents who were in the Air Force off Eye
I know, which I always think is like we we
talk about all these people who have overstepped the lines.
We never called Elvis, No, never called Elvis out right.
So four years five.
Speaker 4: She goes, she grat she goes through high school, she
graduates high school, reads all these press clipics about Elvis
and these stars, but he really wants somebody stable, so
he marries her. She gets knocked up at like nineteen
twenty years old.
Speaker 2: They have this so.
Speaker 4: She's a baby having a baby, and she ends up
being the stable presence in the Graceland. At Grace, she
was like like that Priscilla movie, which I think was
you know, her saying, hey, look I was this champion
from family.
Speaker 9: See.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I saw that she was on
b it was on Max. It basically about Yeah, it's.
Speaker 4: About how Priscilla kept everything together despite the fact that
Elvis was nuts and the family was nuts. She was
the rock and the family right. But then she leaves Elvis,
and all of a sudden he dies and she comes
back to play the widow even though she made her
choice she left and by the way, good for her,
it wasn't working out, but also en now she wants
to be the widow and she brings Lisa eat Maria
along for this ride.
Speaker 2: Oh it gets worse.
Speaker 4: She ends up marrying a guy who molested and Lisa
Marie oh shit, oh yeah, oh yeah. After Elvis dies
and then Lisa Marie goes on she marries Michael Jackson. Hey,
no commentary, just saying she marries Michael Jackson. Then she
marries this other dude, I think Riley Kio's father or
somebody who also was in trouble for looking at child pornography.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's so weird.
Speaker 4: I mean, like this, this family never was equipped to
deal with fame.
Speaker 2: And by the way, I don't know who is. But
especially when you're the biggest icon of your era, Taylor Swift, like,
you're bigger than the Beatles, You're bigger than the led Zeppelin.
You're bigger than everything at the time. Yea yeah. And
then and all of a sudden, one day you come
back from the war.
Speaker 4: You have this comeback, specially when you look out in
the crowd and realize all my fans aren't raving women,
they're blue hairs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4: And I want to act, and I can't act unless
I sing in the movie.
Speaker 2: So now there's a double blow.
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, the wife that chose you,
or you chose, doesn't want you anymore. I mean, it
was just a recipe for disaster. And I think it's
a great cautionary tale. Of you know, be careful for
what you wish for.
Speaker 2: Look at this. I never even knew though, Oh yeah,
oh yeah, it's like you're deep into Elvis.
Speaker 4: What's going I enjoy Elvis, I enjoy history. I mean
I'll go down a rabbit hole Dan and the healthy past.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, I so badly want to call him the transfet.
We've already hired a psychology on a song about Yes, the.
Speaker 11: Jumpsuits, keep those side burns looking tight, I do it
is oversized sunglasses, catch the candles burning light in this
Gracelands pallet, saying.
Speaker 2: I'm keeping him in the house after he died.
Speaker 11: Yeah, the King rolling, He's rocking through the halls.
Speaker 8: No belts, no phantoms in his dry well, this list
forever mover the inside.
Speaker 2: That's right, I'll shakes out with the King's turn being
in Denver in his florry days. He's dancing. That's right.
It is little Elvis now it's here. He never wrote
a song another another version of the same song, like
this one, like this one better?
Speaker 4: Yeah, a little fingerpicking like this room.
Speaker 2: He's lounging on the building, turning row.
Speaker 8: Lift the building and guess he's sticking close to home
and that's not still rude, and and the kings and
from that ling going cold ain't found by Berkeley time.
Speaker 2: Just suits, keep those sideburns. Look at we dress him
up and keep because he's still dead.
Speaker 4: They got to keep it in the bell. Can you
imagine like that bloated carcass, like laying in a bed
for two months and then dead?
Speaker 2: This is what I and again I don't know, Like
here's the thing that I thought. Two things with this.
When you're rich, you can do weird ship because you
can afford it, right or even fame like to for
Lisa Marie Presley. And I can't imagine. I would never
say that anyone who's lost the child. I would You
can't tell them how to grieve. You want to keep
your kid. I would prefer not to go back and
see it. But uh whatever, And uh she did eventually
bury him at Graceland. But to have the money, how
much would that cost to be able to keep the
body at home in a way that is safe? Yes,
and it's done by a funeral pallor. I gotta think
that funeral polar could have like named any price, right, Oh.
Speaker 4: Gosh, they're talking six figures to start think, yes, you're
keeping it. You're keeping Okay, I'm gonna say this, and
it's gonna sound in credibly strange, but you're keeping a
dead person alive.
Speaker 2: You're keeping a dead person alive. Well, yeah, because.
Speaker 4: It's gonna smell, it's gonna it's gonna bloat, you know,
I mean, only formaldehyde can only go so far, right,
you know what the bodies in the ground they start.
Speaker 2: I think it was like you basically, I mean, it
wasn't like Putin. I'm not not Putin. I'm sorry Lenin.
Speaker 4: Yes, right, they kept Lennon like in a in a
an air tighter metically still, so it looked like he
could live forever right in Russia. But I mean that's
what you're basically doing.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: I'm sure she didn't put him under glass. I'm sure
she put me cuddled up to him. Yeah, think about that,
I know.
Speaker 2: But look again, like you wouldn't want to tell, but
that's weird. The ship that impacts your life and then
find out that this is how they did it for her,
According to the memoir, with her father and man, I
gotta tell you, like, you start looking back, even at
your own life, and you go the strange shit that
went on, and how how it did impact you or
didn't impact you, you know, and how it comes back
in stressful situations at times. You know, it's weird, like
here's another stressful situation for her, and you go back to, well,
it kept my dad's body around. Maybe that'll help.
Speaker 4: Me, right, we all, I think we all have a
form of PTSD in certain aspects of our Yeah, you know,
I mean, look at the World War two generation, right,
they came back and they had to be men like
with the stiff upper lip.
Speaker 2: They won that war and they won that one.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, think about all this stuff that they saw
and they kept under wraps. They didn't say so when
you father went off the handle and started slapping you
with the belt or whatever.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: Nowadays they call it child abuse. Back then it was
called discipline or a Tuesday afternoon. And yet they were
probably dealing with stuff that you had no idea was
going on, flashbacks and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: They never dealt with it.
Speaker 4: I think there was no psychology back then. You didn't
go to like I don't want to couch, not much problems.
Speaker 2: I wonder how if they were if the next generation
was more fucked up. Yeah, and not not because of that,
I'm saying because Vietnam. If you went and fought in Vietnam,
you didn't win Vietnam, you lost. You came back here
you felt like people were you mistreated, not mistreated, you know,
all these different things.
Speaker 4: But you came back as a victim one way or
another people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so you either felt like and and you
saw shit right, yeah, And so who knows? And then
that's where I always go. I'm not sure sure with
stuff parents, because I've had conversations with my parents, and
I think one of my parents always go, I don't
know where my head was. I don't know where I was.
And now my father even told me that I don't
know where I was. And and my dad did not
go to Na'm. His brother did. He'd got a high
draft number. His mother didn't wanted him to take the
college to Ferment, and he wouldn't do it because his
brother was in there. So he got a high lottery number.
He goes just by the luck. I didn't that was it,
but I would have gone because my brother was already over.
Speaker 4: I've heard stories about people listening to the draft on
the radio waiting for the number to be sure.
Speaker 2: I mean it was crazy.
Speaker 4: And you know, my father wanted to go, but he
couldn't go because he had flat feet. You know, there
are people who were like, I'll go, you know. I
mean that was the thing. I'm an American, right, you know.
I mean it's just my father was a steel worker.
He saw things and he watched people die on the job. Sure,
you know he comes home, of course he's pissed off,
you know, and things are gonna happen, you know. I
mean yeah, And if you look at Elvis's family, I mean,
think of all the trauma that they went through, and
it manifests from generation to generation to generation.
Speaker 2: I mean, the kid committed suicide.
Speaker 4: I think that's where she really died in her in
her I think that's where she waved the white fig
I mean.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. It's against the natural order of life. You're
not supposed to your kids are not supposed to die before, right.
Speaker 4: And the sad part about the whole thing was Elvis
really had a heart of gold, but he trusted too
many people. Started with Colonel Parker and if you I
don't know, if you saw the Austin I forgot his
last name. The movie that the Elvis, it's fantastic, but
and what's his name? Oh gosh, Tom Hanks played a
phenomenal Colonel Parker.
Speaker 2: He was fantastic.
Speaker 4: He didn't realize like that this this evil dude was
running the show. And Elvis has passed out before he's
got to go on for a show, and everybody say,
take him to the hospital, take him to the hospital.
Speaker 2: And Colonel Parker's like, he's got to be on that stage.
Speaker 4: And Elvis's own father goes, well, Doc, how can you
get him back up? Get him on stage? I mean,
oh my gosh. Like towards the end of his life,
there were guys in charge of drugging him up to
go to bed, waking him up in the middle of
the night, feeding him pill making him drink the water,
shooting what he called like a massive attack shot in
between his shoulder blades just to get him the drugs
he needed to go back to sleep so he can
get up in the morning and be Elvis for everybody.
Because that was the gravy train. It was all Elvis.
Half that money went to Elvis, half that money went
to Tom Parker.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's sad. And it's crazy and it's what
the what happens right right? Greed and power and you
see something and this and yeah, and you never believed
in yourself and you were you were a hillbilly basically, yes, right,
and you came out of poverty and nothing, and so yeah,
it's the great. It's the it's this story's been played
over and over and over and over and over again.
Speaker 4: Everybody builds you up into being the bigger than you are.
I mean, in the Priscilla movie, Elvis is leading a
Bible study with a bunch of women. Now have you
ever thought of Elvis being the Bible study?
Speaker 2: What do you think it means to you? Maybe?
Speaker 4: And she's watching this, all these women like fawn over Elvis.
This is his wife looking at well. I think Bibble's
telling us this, you know all these what are Fodny?
Next scene, he's talking to somebody else. This guy knows
more than all the preachers come by. He had no idea.
He was guessing every step of the way.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I was just I have talked on
this podcast about uh back in I guess the late spring.
I just said I gotta go get help, right, So
I am now I've been doing it for a while,
and I always thought I had figured some shit out
along the way, and then the life has changed and
things come at you and stuff, and uh, I guess
I never realized like how much shit went on in
my life over the years, like how much shit. Everybody's
got a story, but the molestation stuff, like I I
think I told you last night.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my gosh, I.
Speaker 2: Imagine I told I told you graphically what it was,
because I never you couldn't say that on the radio.
I could say it here, but it's what's the point,
but the but I said it graphically to you, and
I said it graphically to the person I see only
because it was like, I can't you know if I
say molestation, uh, it could be anything from they reached
under and tickle my balls or you know what I'm saying, yeah,
and uh yeah, So I go. I guess there was
a lot of stuff, but you learned to compartamentalize it.
And I don't know. I don't know. I can't say
if it made you stronger or better. I think that
there's so many things that have been a low burning
anger inside me, and I wonder the same thing with
like Alisa Marie. Dad's hunt around, he's room to have
these affairs. There's all these women, there's this I don't know,
I have no idea, like you couldn't.
Speaker 4: It wasn't a normal life. Fuck no, in a normal childhood.
But that's your normal.
Speaker 2: Yes, right, Well, if that's your normal and that's all
you know, sometimes that's okay. But I'm still saying, like,
you know, even here, like it was an incident that
happened a couple of times to me over a period
of time. I couldn't even tell you how many, but
it was more than probably more than three or four.
And uh I it impacts you pretty good. But then
you find like along the way, like you're always there's
a little bit of low burning anger that sometimes flames up.
And is it that? Is it? Other stuff? Did you
always seem to attract that sort of thing because you
thought last of it. I don't know, same thing. I'm
just looking at the Leasta marine thing again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well no, I mean that's that's that's that's what
it is. Yeah, you know Michael Jackson l he's like
he was a nut too. Well, there's stories about that.
Speaker 2: Have come out.
Speaker 4: Well, think about this since Michael Jackson has died, how
many stories have come out about him with kids?
Speaker 2: Not really any.
Speaker 4: None, right, none, But there have been stories that have
come out about the people he was working for.
Speaker 2: It took advantage of him. Oh yeah, the doctor's same
type of thing, father being just an abusive.
Speaker 4: Brick or like even the record executives. And he was
the baby of the Jackson five. So who did they
take advantage of? And the most talented, right yeah, So
I mean it's it's like, it's just it's it's it's
it's so sick.
Speaker 2: It is it is. It's like you go, being famous, Yeah,
not that good.
Speaker 4: But till I always said I would never wish that
life upon you. No, I had no, Dad, you don't
get it, man, I could be a pro quarterback because
well number one, No, no, and too, I would never
wish that life upon bi.
Speaker 2: I think that. The thing that's funny to me is
like I remember a teacher of mind going I would
love to be rich, but not famous.
Speaker 4: I'd be like, what I fuck? I want to be
rich in famous. The teachers say that too. I want
to be anonymously wealthy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then I go, I get it. I get it. Alone. Yeah,
but you're so rich that you can keep relatives on
ice in your other room. Oh your son? I mean,
oh yeah. I used to do a thing when a
friend's mom passed many years ago. Let me just stop
this for a second. A friend's mom passes many many
many years ago, and uh, we worked with this person
and people said, wait, the wake is like two weeks
away or whatever. Yeah, and they go, what are they
going to do? And I did this whole thing about
because there used to be the you know, Disney on ice, right,
they would have run these commercials on the radio. So
I started doing so and So's mom on ice and
these I would walk through and I go, I would
do like a skater pose you think, one of those, yeah,
with my hands on and they go, they go, so
and So's mom on ice. I am.
Speaker 4: So it takes if it takes people a long time
to get to tow that happens, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was rude, probably, but I always thought it was
a laugh. And I told you another story last night.
I told you about somebody that was a total life accent. Well,
and it'll come out eventually. It'll come out eventually, all right.
For Dan Burrella for Ryan Burrello, who's getting a little
more beat up right now on the path. Yeah, yeah,
I'm Baron Rodgers who lied today. Wait what I end
up to do? Oh? Please? Aaron Rodgers had everything.
Speaker 4: Anytime, somebody us this convincing language.
Speaker 2: Because what I'm seeing hearing now is that that Salom
wanted to fire Nathaniel hack Nathaniel hack excuse me not
Nate Hacket and Nathaniel Hackett and so and then Aaron said,
you're not getting rid of my guy. And what he went,
I'm firing that. I'm firing Salad. Other people said he
had the Lebanese flag on while in England. That's ridiculous. Yeah,
I don't think that trace all right. For Dan Burrello,
Ryan Barrello, I'm Bill Moran, will see you tomorrow. I
got to get that song longer