Speaker 1: Well, looks like it's a wake up call.
Speaker 2: Somes come past, the innocent, can never last.
Speaker 1: Wake me up.
Speaker 2: When septemberans, we got a whole month left.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, snooze.
Speaker 2: Like my father's come to pass seven years as.
Speaker 3: Cone up fast, Wake me up.
Speaker 2: When set taberans, he comes up again, falling from the stars,
Speaker 2: drench in my pain again, become as my mamory.
Speaker 1: Good morning on a Labor Day Monday. Gary Jeff Walker
Speaker 1: in for Brian Thomas, the second of September. I'm Billy
Speaker 1: Joe and Green Day, many of them here in the
Speaker 1: Tri State area. Who are? And people from I guess
Speaker 1: outside the arena, thrilled to the sounds of green Day live.
Speaker 1: Just the last couple of weeks, and now the fireworks
Speaker 1: are over, and the realization that summer is we're all
Speaker 1: intents and purposes over, and the weather feels like before
Speaker 1: we look at I look back at significant events and
Speaker 1: people tied to this particular date in history. September second,
Speaker 1: sixteen sixty six. God, I was really young. Then the
Speaker 1: Great Fire of London began, destroying more than thirteen thousand dwellings,
Speaker 1: hundreds of additional structures, including Saint Paul's Cathedral over a
Speaker 1: three day period. You think our fires are bad? The
Speaker 1: United States Treasury Department established on this date in seventeen
Speaker 1: eighty nine, and don't blame them for the things that
Speaker 1: the IRS does. Although Janet Yellen is not one of
Speaker 1: my favorite people right now, some of the fiscal decisions
Speaker 1: that are being made on our behalf. On September second,
Speaker 1: eighteen sixty four, during America's horrible Civil War, Union General
Speaker 1: William Sherman's forces occupied Atlanta burn it to the sea.
Speaker 1: Nineteen thirty five, On this date, a Category five hurricane
Speaker 1: slammed into the Florida Keys on Labor Day, claiming more
Speaker 1: than four hundred and If you want to flip forward
Speaker 1: to nineteen fifty eight, President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed a
Speaker 1: National Defense Education Act, providing aid to the public and
Speaker 1: private education to promote learning in fields like math and science.
Speaker 1: We need a re establishment of what Eisenhower had wrought
Speaker 1: in this country's education, There's no question about it. September second,
Speaker 1: nineteen forty five, Japan formally surrendered in ceremonies aboard the
Speaker 1: USS Missouri and Tokyo Bay, officially ending finally for once
Speaker 1: and for all World War two this date. In nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety eight, a Swiss Air MD eleven jetliner crashed off
Speaker 1: Nova Scotia's killing all two hundred and twenty nine and
Speaker 1: in what some regard as the birth of the Internet.
Speaker 1: Here we'll back up a little bit to nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 1: Two connected computers at the University of California, Los Angeles
Speaker 1: pass test data through a fifteen foot cable. In other words,
Speaker 1: they had virtual web sex. A National Guard convoy packed
Speaker 1: with food, water, and medicine rolled into New Orleans after
Speaker 1: four days of Hurricane Katrina's carnage was two thousand and five.
Speaker 1: Remember well, twenty thirteen, on her fifth try, US endurance
Speaker 1: swimmer Diana and Naiad became the first person to swim
Speaker 1: from Cuba to Florida without the help of a shark cage.
Speaker 1: A huge fire in Gulf Brazil's two hundred year old
Speaker 1: National Museum in Rio de Janeiro, as firefighters and museum
Speaker 1: workers raced to save historical relics there twenty eighteen. Things
Speaker 1: in Brazil are much worse than a fire in a
Speaker 1: national museums. It's a fire sale. Did you hear that
Speaker 1: X is completely exed out of the country of and
Speaker 1: there's an eight thousand dollars fine if people are caught
Speaker 1: trying to find a VPN to get Twitter. The information
Speaker 1: is being choked off by a government that has proved
Speaker 1: itself nothing to be nothing but New Age Marxists. It
Speaker 1: was on this date five years ago a fire swept
Speaker 1: through a boat carrying recreational scuba diizer divers anchored off
Speaker 1: the island of the southern California coast. The captain four
Speaker 1: others of the crew able to escape, thirty four people
Speaker 1: trapped below did not. Former Senator Alan Simpson of Wyoming
Speaker 1: is ninety three. Horse trainer d Wayne Lucas turns eighty
Speaker 1: nine today. Former United States Olympic Committee chairman and former
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball commissioner Peter Euber ofv clips eighty seven.
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Famer Terry Bradshaw's seventy six Basketball Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer Nate Tiny Archibald is seventy six. Watching Tiny
Speaker 1: play hoops, and Tiny wound up not being the smallest
Speaker 1: ever player to suit up for an NBA team. He
Speaker 1: was five to eleven, but he could literally jump out
Speaker 1: of the gym. Producer Sean McMahon never got the benefit
Speaker 1: of seeing Nate Archibald play basketball, But he was before
Speaker 1: Muggsy Bogues, before any of the tiny tots got out
Speaker 1: there and stunned us. Playing against these other physical freaks
Speaker 1: that dominate the NBA, Nate Tiny Archibald was one hell
Speaker 1: of a hoopster. Actor Mark Harmon is seventy three. Tennis
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Jimmy Conners turned seventy two this week.
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Famer Eric Dickerson man that guy could
Speaker 1: run the football, sixty four years old. Today. British Prime
Speaker 1: Minister Kiir Starmer is sixty two, still waiting on the
Speaker 1: final grades for Kir. Actor Keanu Reeves is sixty Somewhere
Speaker 1: in the matrix. He's having some kind of weird cake.
Speaker 1: Boxing Hall of Famer Lenox Lewis turns fifty nine. To day.
Speaker 1: Actress Selma Hayak is fifty eight. Kse I kse is
Speaker 1: fifty five. This is the rapper, the R and B
Speaker 1: singer case not case of Casey and the Sunshine Man.
Speaker 1: That's Harry Casey and electronic music producer in dj Z
Speaker 1: turns thirty five on this September second. If it is
Speaker 1: your birthday and I hope and pray for you. That
Speaker 1: is the most wonderful birthday you could imagine, spent with
Speaker 1: the people you love, doing the things you like to do.
Speaker 1: September second, Happy birthday. One in all, it's five thirteen
Speaker 1: now that I did some time to get things started
Speaker 1: this morning, I will tell you a little bit about
Speaker 1: our show. We have the fantastic Peter Bronson with us
Speaker 1: this morning for almost a full hour. Our conversations are
Speaker 1: notorious for being the chemistry, connective, relatable, local. It's good stuff.
Speaker 1: Also local author and attorney Rick Robinson to talk more
Speaker 1: about the relevancy of nineteen sixty eight as here we
Speaker 1: are in twenty twenty four, that's the name of his book.
Speaker 1: And we will talk about politics and have a few
Speaker 1: differences of opinion, which is always good for talk radio. Right,
Speaker 1: we have a full lineup which I gave to producer
Speaker 1: Sean McMahon, and I can't recall it all now as
Speaker 1: it was written down in the paper. That'll suit me
Speaker 1: for giving Sean my information. It's gone now, but it
Speaker 1: will all be right here between now and nine o'clock.
Speaker 1: And good morning to west Side Jim, longtime friend of
Speaker 1: the station, friend of mine, friend of yours, he says,
Speaker 1: morning firework King did not see a bit of what
Speaker 1: went on last night, had to get to bed too
Speaker 1: early when they were coming up on five point fifteen.
Speaker 1: We'll take a break and when we come back. By
Speaker 1: the way, I know, it's a holiday weekend, it's a Monday,
Speaker 1: it's early. But if you're out there and you had
Speaker 1: to get up and go to work today, or for
Speaker 1: some reason you are up at five point fifteen on
Speaker 1: a Monday labor day, feel free to chime in and
Speaker 1: give us a full report. As they like to say,
Speaker 1: I'd love to find out who else is out here
Speaker 1: except for me. Don't make me feel like I'm all alone.
Speaker 1: Come on, people, Gary jeff In for Brian Thomas, it's
Speaker 1: Gary jet Fund Labor Day on fifty five KRC, the
Speaker 1: talk station. That's five eighteen. It's September two, and mail
Speaker 1: in ballots are going out this week, sixty days before
Speaker 1: election day, sixty days before one of the more I
Speaker 1: would say, pivotal, no crucial, vital election days in America's history,
Speaker 1: where we will decide whether we continue down this path
Speaker 1: of neo Marxism, all out Marxism, and corporate America being
Speaker 1: in cahoots with the government, you know, communist China. There
Speaker 1: there are companies, but they're not independent. They're all owned
Speaker 1: by the state. And from what we've learned from Mark
Speaker 1: Zuckerberg and what we've seen over the last three and
Speaker 1: a half years or whatever, Facebook is nothing but an
Speaker 1: arm of the power elite in Washington, DC. Facebook is
Speaker 1: a company. While you'd say, what private shareholders, they have
Speaker 1: a CEO that makes plenty of money. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: they pay their people. They are nothing but an arm
Speaker 1: of the Democrat Party. Against the backdrop of all that,
Speaker 1: back to election day, the sixty days around till November fifth,
Speaker 1: The first mailand ballots are supposed to be in voters'
Speaker 1: hands this week in some crucial key states. Now, this
Speaker 1: first batch is usually sent out to the military people
Speaker 1: who were overseas under federal law. That's going to happen
Speaker 1: at least forty five days before the election, or the
Speaker 1: twenty first of this month. Some states start even earlier
Speaker 1: than we're Carolina is one of them. Considered a key
Speaker 1: battleground state this year, they'll begin sending the mail ballots
Speaker 1: to all voters who request them, including the military personnel
Speaker 1: and overseas voters starting this Friday, according to their state
Speaker 1: Board of Elections. Now, voter registrations deadlines vary by each state.
Speaker 1: I think in Ohio it's thirty days before the election,
Speaker 1: between eight. But in Ohio, I know the early voting
Speaker 1: is it goes on for a month. Isn't that right? Westside?
Speaker 1: Jim could call and tell me, but he won't. I
Speaker 1: don't live in Ohio, so I'm not quite clear on it.
Speaker 1: In Kentucky, I think it's you have three days to
Speaker 1: early voter or something like that. It is more election
Speaker 1: day centric as far as when you can actually cast
Speaker 1: your ballot. But according to the National Conference of State Legislatures,
Speaker 1: most voting registration deadlines fall between eight and thirty days
Speaker 1: before the election. The deadline's October seventh in Georgia, which
Speaker 1: is a month out, another key swing state. Now, outside
Speaker 1: of the mail ballots again, there are any of the
Speaker 1: early states that offer some version of in person voting
Speaker 1: early and I was just mentioned in Ohio early in
Speaker 1: person voting will start as soon as September twentieth in
Speaker 1: some states, so you know, three weeks away we got
Speaker 1: people actually casting their ballot in person in Pennsylvania, another
Speaker 1: one that oddly will be pivotal in determining the outcome
Speaker 1: of the coming presidential election. Ballots will be mail that
Speaker 1: fifty days before the general election. The states that begin
Speaker 1: mailing ballots to voters more than forty five days before
Speaker 1: the election are My Commonwealth, Kentucky, Arkansas, Delaware, Minnesota, North Carolina,
Speaker 1: South Dakota, Tennessee, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Alabama, Idaho, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan,
Speaker 1: New Jersey, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, Texas, Virginia, and Wyoming start
Speaker 1: mailing ballots to voters forty five days before the election.
Speaker 1: In North Carolina, Robert F. Kennedy, who of course, as
Speaker 1: you know, is endorsed President Trump, will remain on the
Speaker 1: ballot in the state, according to the state Board of Elections,
Speaker 1: because already two million dollars two million ballots have been
Speaker 1: printed with Kennedy's name on them already, and the first
Speaker 1: ballots sent to absent voters in eight days. There's no
Speaker 1: stop in that train. In other word, words, but it
Speaker 1: sounds kind of suspicious when you think that a Kennedy
Speaker 1: vote might be a detraction from a Trump vote. And
Speaker 1: as North Carolina arbitrarily decided to do this. Is that
Speaker 1: their law. I think they're claiming that there's nothing that
Speaker 1: can be done about it because the ballots have already
Speaker 1: been printed. Kind of wonder sometimes that the ballots have
Speaker 1: already been counted before any once even cast one. That's
Speaker 1: the way it seemed in twenty twenty to me. Now
Speaker 1: this is all. The first debate, of course, is eight
Speaker 1: days away next Tuesday. A week from tomorrow, Donald Trump
Speaker 1: and Kamala Harris will face off against each other. Tim
Speaker 1: Waltz and Senator Vance have agreed to October first debate.
Speaker 1: Now they're already voting. But as the argument has made
Speaker 1: many times, and I overall believe it, nobody really votes
Speaker 1: for a vice president, although the vice presidential consideration should
Speaker 1: be fairly shrewd since they're a heartbeat away from being president.
Speaker 1: But I digress. As of this point, according to this
Speaker 1: article I'm reading from the Epoch Times, which is a
Speaker 1: great news source, by the way, If any, it's not
Speaker 1: clear if any other debates will be held, and of
Speaker 1: course President Trump suggested he might pull out of the
Speaker 1: ABC debate citing concerns about bias at the network. And
Speaker 1: they've already directed. They've already demonstrated how in couhots they
Speaker 1: are with the powers that be in the Democrat Party
Speaker 1: in Washington right now in the Biden Harris administration. So
Speaker 1: can't really blame him for saying, Hey, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I want to walk into this lion's den where
Speaker 1: I will be treated unfairly in front of the American public. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got through CNN, and that's one hell of a
Speaker 1: gauntlet all on its own. So we'll see. So five
Speaker 1: point five on Labor Day, Gary Jeff Walker laboring for
Speaker 1: you instead of Brian Thomas on fifty five KRCV talk station.
Speaker 1: Now I'm fifty five hundred almost awake now Gary jeffan
Speaker 1: for Brian Thomas on Labor Day. And actually someone else
Speaker 1: is out there, an early caller about early voting. Pat
Speaker 1: and Cole Rane, Good morning, dear, Hello, sugar lips.
Speaker 4: Sweet.
Speaker 5: Now they've got they said they can't take Robert Kennedy's
Speaker 5: name off the ballot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they said. That's what they said.
Speaker 5: In North Carolina, know, Okay, Well, here in the state
Speaker 5: of Ohio, I went to the library about a week ago.
Speaker 5: I guess it is. I got the ballots with all
Speaker 5: the names and judges and whatnot. And the very first
Speaker 5: name on this ballad is Joseph R.
Speaker 3: Biden.
Speaker 5: Now, if they can't take his name off, then they
Speaker 5: should be really voting for him instead of the elevated
Speaker 5: Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: So is Kamala's name on the on the ballot as
Speaker 1: a presidential choice.
Speaker 5: No, it is Joseph R. Biden and Donald R.
Speaker 6: Trump.
Speaker 5: So you know, I always say there is a little
Speaker 5: Shenanigan's going on, but.
Speaker 1: More more than a little.
Speaker 5: Yes, Joe was thrown under the bus. He knows where
Speaker 5: his place is in life, and they told him in
Speaker 5: the uncertain terms, and so the dams didn't get to
Speaker 5: really because Kamala didn't even make the primaries when she
Speaker 5: first ran. So, but she's been elevated, So I don't
Speaker 5: know what's going on. I keep praying and voting.
Speaker 1: So well, anyway, you're doing the important thing first. When
Speaker 1: you said praying, you're doing the most important thing. The
Speaker 1: voting's important too, But pray. Pray number one, vote second,
Speaker 1: and vote just as hard as you pray. That would
Speaker 1: be my advice. Bet more than one person, because it's
Speaker 1: so obvious. Has illuminated the fact that the same party
Speaker 1: that has continued to say and still continues to say,
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump is a threat to democracy have done
Speaker 1: the most un democratic things. It's in the name of
Speaker 1: their party, the Democratic Party. It is not demicocratic, nor
Speaker 1: should it be a party. It should be renamed what
Speaker 1: it rightfully is, and that's the Communist Party, the Totalitarian Party,
Speaker 1: the Marxist Party. I'm sorry. I know there are good
Speaker 1: Democrat voters, but there is nothing good about your party
Speaker 1: if you're a registered Democrat, not one thing. And they've
Speaker 1: proven it time and time and time again. The road
Speaker 1: to hell is paved with democratic policies, be they well
Speaker 1: intended or not. But yeah, they can't take Robert F.
Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior off the ballot. I think it's two states.
Speaker 1: I know in North Carolina, I thought there was one
Speaker 1: more that the state Board of Elections said, No, now
Speaker 1: it's too late, we can't take him off. What about
Speaker 1: Joe Biden? How many ballots were already printed up with
Speaker 1: Biden's Now apparently Pat got a sample from the life
Speaker 1: an official Ohio ballot that had Joseph R. Biden as
Speaker 1: a choice. Joseph R. Biden and Donald J. Trump. Those
Speaker 1: are the two selections. Don't you know what this a
Speaker 1: good idea. Don't even listen to the media or to
Speaker 1: the campaigns telling you you're voting for Kamala Harris versus
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, because the ballot doesn't say so. It's obviously
Speaker 1: a lie. You're still voting for the same policies that
Speaker 1: have been in place in the last three and a
Speaker 1: half years that have put our economy, our sovereignty, and
Speaker 1: your personal safety at risk every single day. A leopard
Speaker 1: doesn't change her spots. Kamala Harris hasn't changed any policies
Speaker 1: that she has held since before the twenty twenty election.
Speaker 1: And the evidence is there. It's on video, it's her
Speaker 1: own words. It's not AI, it's not chat GPT, it's
Speaker 1: not a deep fake. That's who Kamala Harris is. Not
Speaker 1: the apologist who's saying that she's changed her mind or
Speaker 1: shifted values and at the same time in that interview
Speaker 1: last week saying that her values are still the same.
Speaker 1: That was the only truthful thing she said in that
Speaker 1: sixteen to eighteen chopped up softball minute interview that was
Speaker 1: aired last week on CNN five point thirty five on
Speaker 1: a Monday morning Oh, we're getting We're getting cranked up now,
Speaker 1: Gary Jeff with you on Labor Day, Gary jeffon Labor Day,
Speaker 1: Mark Mix or one of his representatives at We've got
Speaker 1: Patrick Simmons from the National Right to Work Foundation. That
Speaker 1: makes sense for Labor Day. Gretchen Wallart, who was a
Speaker 1: mother and wife on a farm in Wyoming, who has
Speaker 1: written a book about Donald Trump called The Magic and
Speaker 1: the Mayhem of Donald Trump. She's a supporter. She admits
Speaker 1: there's mayhem, but that's really mostly caused by the people
Speaker 1: who vehemently opposed Trump. By the way, did you hear
Speaker 1: over the weekend or maybe at the tail end of
Speaker 1: last week? It came out into last week. I'm sure
Speaker 1: Brian may have played it for you, or at least
Speaker 1: a portion of it. We may have seen it somewhere else.
Speaker 1: I mean, you wouldn't have seen it on ABC, NBC, CBS,
Speaker 1: CNN or MSNBC. But the Nicole Shanahan. Nicole Shanahan, of course,
Speaker 1: was the vice presidential running mate of Robert F. Kennedy
Speaker 1: Junior before he dropped out of the race. And it's
Speaker 1: about independence. Maybe Sean can find that for us. Before
Speaker 1: the top of the hour, comes, it's Nicole Shanahan Trump
Speaker 1: derangement syndrome independence. See if you can seek that out,
Speaker 1: we'll play at least a portion of that. I mean,
Speaker 1: that ought to be a Donald Trump ad, and in
Speaker 1: a way, of course it is. But back to what
Speaker 1: I was saying, I I don't know if there's any
Speaker 1: hope for Cincinnati in this election. There are obviously important
Speaker 1: elections all the way down the ballot and west side
Speaker 1: Jim could be more enlightening on who the Republican Party
Speaker 1: is supporting. I'm not that familiar with it, and you
Speaker 1: think I'm on the radio in Cincinnati. I should have
Speaker 1: some kind of a clue, and I do generally, But
Speaker 1: I know that Dick from Dayton doesn't know. Let's see
Speaker 1: what Dick knows. Action. Hello, Dick, what's going on?
Speaker 4: Good morning Gary, Jeff.
Speaker 1: Happened Labor day? Buddy? Yeah, well it's it's happy. I
Speaker 1: guess I'm laboring. I just thought i'd call you give
Speaker 1: you a little pick me up. Well what do you
Speaker 1: think I needed to pick me up? Dick? No, I
Speaker 1: just know you're always I just wanted to say, uh huh, thanks.
Speaker 3: You know all my friends, like Dave, I just want
Speaker 3: to get down to see you.
Speaker 6: This year, it's been kind of down in the dumps,
Speaker 6: not singing you guys as much.
Speaker 1: You know, by the way, I want to, I want to.
Speaker 1: I want to tell you something. Okay, when you call
Speaker 1: me on Saturday mornings and then you call Ron Wilson
Speaker 1: in the garden here on fifty five KRC on Saturday mornings, right,
Speaker 1: that is the highlight of his morning in back. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He'll come during a break and say Gary Jeff would
Speaker 1: Dick from Dayton Cold and it just made my day.
Speaker 1: He is effusive in his praise of the Dickster. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you what, there is nobody that he would
Speaker 1: rather talk to Dick about anything, because of your wide
Speaker 1: range of topics, because of your wide range of interest.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got you've got banjo, you've got mandolin,
Speaker 1: you've got you've got you know, triangle. Did you ever
Speaker 1: play the cow bell?
Speaker 7: Dick?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Never did, never did? Oh, yeah, you ought to take
Speaker 1: that up.
Speaker 4: I should shouldn't.
Speaker 1: I Yeah, you're in continuing in education as a senior
Speaker 1: because the classes are free, so you're you're broadening your horizons.
Speaker 1: You're I don't know, you're just you're You're like a
Speaker 1: renaissance man, Dick, and Ron.
Speaker 4: Loves fag yourself.
Speaker 5: You.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm dad.
Speaker 1: I've told people that, I've told everybody that the best
Speaker 1: time of my life was when I got.
Speaker 6: To meet you and him a Barbara and the lady
Speaker 6: you'd be.
Speaker 1: You'd be surprised how many people say that after they've
Speaker 1: met me.
Speaker 4: Let you go, buddy, Oh you.
Speaker 1: Don't want to talk some more?
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, I was gonna talk.
Speaker 6: I just I know, I don't know if you're short
Speaker 6: a time.
Speaker 1: Well, obviously I'm not short a time. I took your call.
Speaker 1: Well I know, yeah, yeah, Okay, Well we'll talk to
Speaker 1: you next weekend.
Speaker 4: Okay, have a good day.
Speaker 1: Call Ron. Make sure you call Ron Wilson. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: call you ever call Brian Thomas? No, I never I
Speaker 1: call uh.
Speaker 4: No, I I wait, I don't know. He doesn't take
Speaker 4: my calls.
Speaker 1: He doesn't take your call.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna use the underline, but uh, maybe say something
Speaker 4: to Joe.
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm curious. I'm curious as to why Brian
Speaker 1: wouldn't take your call. Dick, You're always so so full
Speaker 1: of information.
Speaker 4: You I just wait, you know, maybe maybe he's got
Speaker 4: a different group, but I try to call sometimes.
Speaker 1: You know, well, you keep on trying. Okay, one of
Speaker 1: these days you'll grab that brass ring. Thanks goodbye, Dick,
Speaker 1: coming up on five for we that wasted some time.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about wasting yours, but anyway, five one, three, seven, four, nine,
Speaker 1: fifty five hundred. As I stated at the top of
Speaker 1: the show, there is plenty of great, great information to come.
Speaker 1: Fantastic guests, and it's all ahead in minutes now five
Speaker 1: forty five fifty five KRC the talk station.
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Speaker 1: Time for our first guest. Well, I do love holidays
Speaker 1: because Gary Jeff gets to make some money because the
Speaker 1: regular people are out here. We are Gary Jeff Labor Day,
Speaker 1: and I have been most looking forward to this guest.
Speaker 1: I love all my guests, of course, line them up.
Speaker 1: I I did all this heavy duty planning to get
Speaker 1: just the right people for just the right segment. Most
Speaker 1: of it is people that have, you know, over the years,
Speaker 1: not only spark my imagination, but are great guests. And
Speaker 1: this is definitely Numero uno for me. Anytime he has time,
Speaker 1: and thankfully, gratefully, thank you God he had time for
Speaker 1: us today. Peter Bronson in the studio, how are you, peeple.
Speaker 7: I'm glad to be here on the holiday. What a
Speaker 7: great way to celebrate with my buddy Gary Jeff. Yes, yes,
Speaker 7: an all day long part. We will labor together.
Speaker 1: I hope it's not too laborious in the vineyards of
Speaker 1: talk radio. No much sleep I got last night. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Let's talk first and kind of tease your next book project,
Speaker 1: because people, absolutely overwhelmingly, and you know this from local
Speaker 1: book sales, love your books about Cincinnati and its history,
Speaker 1: this area's history, you know, from the Man who Saved
Speaker 1: Cincinnati to Forbidden Fruit to in our town. You all
Speaker 1: behind the lines, behind the lines about the riots in
Speaker 1: two thousand and one, what happened in the aftermath of
Speaker 1: that Pete. So this new book is it's a working title,
Speaker 1: yes I do. The working title is Promised Land, all right.
Speaker 7: And it's about the people who the really gutsy and
Speaker 7: courageous people who settled this area in the seventeen eighties
Speaker 7: and seventeen nineties, first in Kentucky and then in Ohio
Speaker 7: when a picture this. So, you're an American Revolutionary war
Speaker 7: veteran and you've just defeated the biggest superpower on Earth,
Speaker 7: the British Empire, and you get good news and bad
Speaker 7: news from the government. The government says, well, the bad
Speaker 7: news is we don't have any money left to pay you, right,
Speaker 7: so we're broke, and thank you for your service. But oh,
Speaker 7: by the way, hey, the good news is we have
Speaker 7: some free land that will give you in the Ohio territory.
Speaker 7: Well that came with a little bit of fine print
Speaker 7: bad news attached, which is that, oh, by the way,
Speaker 7: there's some people there that already think that's their land.
Speaker 7: And those are some of the fiercest and most cruel
Speaker 7: and barbaric people on earth. They are the Shawnee and
Speaker 7: Miami Indian tribes. Even the Mohawks and the Iroquois would
Speaker 7: not mess with the Shawnee, right and when they decided
Speaker 7: that you're not supposed to be on my land, WHOA.
Speaker 1: Anytime you get into a conversation about the indigenous peoples
Speaker 1: who were here before the Northern European settlers, the evil
Speaker 1: white men, anytime you get into that conversation, Peter, what
Speaker 1: is always left out of that conversation was that tribes
Speaker 1: like the Shawnee and the Miami Indians were slaughtering their
Speaker 1: fellow indigenous peoples long before we ever got here. And
Speaker 1: then when we got here, we got a taste of
Speaker 1: what they've been doing all along, taking over people's lande you.
Speaker 7: Know, butchering, the kidnapping, torturing, you know, I got to say, look,
Speaker 7: just to be clear, there were what we called at
Speaker 7: the time depredations, cruelties, barbarity on both sides. There were
Speaker 7: white people who took scalps as well. However, there were
Speaker 7: not white settlers who tortured people for days at a
Speaker 7: time by burning them slowly and prolonging their keeping them
Speaker 7: alive just so they could suffer for three or four
Speaker 7: days at a time.
Speaker 1: That was never done.
Speaker 7: That was done in the Indian tribes, and that had
Speaker 7: been done previously by those tribes to their enemies.
Speaker 1: Sure, but their enemies were other, and it was just
Speaker 1: a fight for land, yes, power, power, just tribal hostilities
Speaker 1: that go that went back centuries. And also, don't leave
Speaker 1: out another part of it that I was really kind
Speaker 1: of surprised to see is how much of this was
Speaker 1: incited and financed by the British because after the war
Speaker 1: they still harbored a lot of resentment and hatred toward
Speaker 1: the Americans, and they wanted to keep us from expanding
Speaker 1: westward because they were hoping to claim all of that
Speaker 1: land west of the Ohio River for Canada and their empire.
Speaker 1: So they gave they set up bounties and paid the
Speaker 1: Indians one hundred dollars for a hostage and fifty dollars
Speaker 1: for a scalp. And the hostages, children, women, men, whoever
Speaker 1: they could grab, if they weren't scalped and murdered or tortured,
Speaker 1: were given to the British and where they became slaves
Speaker 1: in Canada. No, the British were really no better than
Speaker 1: the cartels that are human trafficking across our southern borders
Speaker 1: exactly at will.
Speaker 7: And this went on all the way up to eighteen twelve,
Speaker 7: and it happened again in the War of eighteen twelve
Speaker 7: when the British came back and told the Indians pick
Speaker 7: up the tomahawk.
Speaker 1: That was their signal go after the America. Well, I
Speaker 1: mean just to I guess my original point was to
Speaker 1: divorce the Indigenous people from human nature, and the constant
Speaker 1: struggle for land, fight and power is really myopic.
Speaker 7: It is, and it also ignores the bigger scope of history,
Speaker 7: which is that land has always belonged to the people
Speaker 7: who find a way to use it best. The Indians
Speaker 7: required hundreds of square miles to sustain their civilization, not
Speaker 7: based on a hunting gathering society.
Speaker 1: They were almost in the.
Speaker 7: Stone Age, Right, the White Europeans came and they had tools,
Speaker 7: they had advanced civilization, they had better communication, education, and
Speaker 7: they knew how to farm, so they could turn one
Speaker 7: hundred acres into a farm that would sustain one hundred people.
Speaker 7: The Indians needed one hundred acres or one hundred square
Speaker 7: miles to sustain one hundred people.
Speaker 1: Right. So it's just the.
Speaker 7: Wheel of history is going to always turn in the
Speaker 7: direction of those who can use the land to its
Speaker 7: best advantage.
Speaker 1: I think a perfect modern day example of that is
Speaker 1: a state of Israel. Yes, they turned a desert into
Speaker 1: a paradigmic point in that part of the world. And
Speaker 1: who predicted that God? Yes, God, Amen. But I mean
Speaker 1: at the.
Speaker 7: Time they were it was as if they'd been given
Speaker 7: this little slice of god forsaken desert.
Speaker 1: Yes, and it turned out to be their promised land.
Speaker 1: It's amazing story. Yeah, and it's being written all the time.
Speaker 1: And Peter is writing that story again with his new book.
Speaker 1: When do you expect it out?
Speaker 7: I'm going to have it out this fall, so we'll
Speaker 7: have it in time for Christmas sales.
Speaker 1: All right, fantastic, another one on the list. Every time
Speaker 1: I have you on and you're talking about one of
Speaker 1: your books. I have somebody contact me outside the realm
Speaker 1: of radio, whether I'm at the bar or just people
Speaker 1: who know me. Said, yeah, I heard Peter Bronson. That
Speaker 1: sounds like a really great book. I said, it is. Oh,
Speaker 1: I have so much fun doing those.
Speaker 7: And Cincinnati not only loves its history, but it has
Speaker 7: a good reason to love its history because this region
Speaker 7: is so rich in history. This really is where so
Speaker 7: many things happened that determine the fate of our country.
Speaker 1: And this book is no exception.
Speaker 7: There's a lot more to say about it, but I'm
Speaker 7: gonna leave it front no later. But there's so much
Speaker 7: that happened here in this Miami Valley that really did
Speaker 7: determine the fate of this United States.
Speaker 1: Fantastic again. The working title Promised Land, Promised Land, looking
Speaker 1: forward in sometime this fall, and here we are. I'm
Speaker 1: the precipice of fall. Yes, you can't wear your white
Speaker 1: pants anymore. I don't have any white pants.
Speaker 4: I mean neither.
Speaker 1: Okay, no more white shoes more. With Peter Bronson as
Speaker 1: we continue, It's Gary Jeff on Labor Day, your campaign
Speaker 1: fitstop on the road to November.
Speaker 4: There's so much going on. I got to check in
Speaker 4: a few times a day.
Speaker 1: Fifty five krs the talk station. Hey, if you're listening
Speaker 1: to me right now with Peter Bronson and we continue
Speaker 1: in spite of your request for us to stop Garrie
Speaker 1: with Peter Bronson here, Yeah, just ignore those calls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I know that you love the political satire site,
Speaker 1: The Babylon b Absolutely, which we found out last week,
Speaker 1: was one of the news outlets or outlets online that
Speaker 1: the Biden administration wanted to censor in conjunction with people
Speaker 1: like Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook. Of course, no satire when
Speaker 1: it comes to COVID please, yes, we will not be
Speaker 1: allowed to laugh. We've got vaccine patents to protect you
Speaker 1: will stop stop laughing and like it. Fauci has money
Speaker 1: to earn from his royalties. Yes, well, today's been Babylon
Speaker 1: b totally divorced of that. Here's the headline. This is
Speaker 1: from last week. Do you have what it takes to
Speaker 1: be the bass player at church? The nine qualifications? Again,
Speaker 1: I'm not slamming bass players at church. The Babylon b is.
Speaker 1: I've seen a few, all right. Number one, you must
Speaker 1: have access to a bass makes sense. That's probably the
Speaker 1: most important one, and I'll agree with that. Two at
Speaker 1: least two fingers, so you can play both of the
Speaker 1: notes basses play during each song. Not a lot of
Speaker 1: love for bassis. No, never heard of a sharp or
Speaker 1: a flat. In fact, the inability to hear sharps and
Speaker 1: flats is even better. Ability to nod head slowly extra
Speaker 1: points if you can kind of sigh yes Lord under
Speaker 1: your breath without the lead singer hearing you. Ability to
Speaker 1: count to four, This one's crucial. Vowed number to venture
Speaker 1: into the D or G strings. That would be like
Speaker 1: heresy by but way worse numbers. I love this one.
Speaker 1: Pete can play Smoke on the Water, absolutely classic, absolutely necessary.
Speaker 1: Number eight the qualifications to be a bass player at
Speaker 1: church in a church praise bander with number eight poor
Speaker 1: personal hygiene. Get this one right and they'll give you
Speaker 1: your own little c through plastic cage on stage. So cruel.
Speaker 1: That's rough. And number nine no discernible music skills. Skills
Speaker 1: really just get in the way. The thing about I
Speaker 1: love about the Babylon b is that they cut everybody.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah. They have a great self deprecating sense
Speaker 7: of humor. For everybody, you know, I mean, no, there's
Speaker 7: no target off limits.
Speaker 1: This is what the first amendment in the Bill of
Speaker 1: Rights who are Constitution is all about is freedom of speech.
Speaker 1: And some people can find that speech events. Maybe people
Speaker 1: who go to church and love their praise band or
Speaker 1: bass players, they could find that offensive. I understand, I
Speaker 1: get you.
Speaker 7: I can enjoy it, and because maybe they've been to
Speaker 7: a lot of different churches and seen that bass player.
Speaker 1: So the point though, there being is that we know
Speaker 1: now at least from the testimony of Mark Zuckerberg last week,
Speaker 1: that yes, they did bend to government pressure to censor
Speaker 1: some speech, and it really reared its ugly head during
Speaker 1: COVID interacted. You can't take ivermectin, You're going to turn
Speaker 1: into a horse, and all the other things that they
Speaker 1: said that was that was nonsense, It was rubbish. Their
Speaker 1: line of truth was the actual disinformation.
Speaker 7: To inject themselves with bleach. That was another one. Never
Speaker 7: said that. Now that was allowed, but if you made
Speaker 7: fun of it, no you could not. I mean the
Speaker 7: whole thing, not only just the COVID thing, which still
Speaker 7: rankles and it is an outrage really, but also the election.
Speaker 7: What happened with the laptop story is still unbelievable. This
Speaker 7: was one of the biggest frauds perpetrated by our media,
Speaker 7: and it was done by Facebook. It was done with
Speaker 7: the cooperation and instigation of the White House. And if
Speaker 7: that had been if the media had done its job
Speaker 7: to investigate that, you would have unraveled and exposed the
Speaker 7: entire Biden crime family closet would have been opened wide
Speaker 7: for all to see, and voters would have been able
Speaker 7: to make an informed choice between those two candidates. And
Speaker 7: I have no doubt and the polls prove it that
Speaker 7: the election result would have been entirely different. So what
Speaker 7: we see here was that the Democratic Party and its
Speaker 7: friends and accomplices and in the media and in Facebook
Speaker 7: rigged an election. Yeah, there's no other way to put it. No,
Speaker 7: they rigged an election. And you don't have to get
Speaker 7: into all the mail in ballots and all the rest
Speaker 7: of these stolen election arguments. All you need to know
Speaker 7: is what the media did, with the aid of Facebook
Speaker 7: and the deep state to suppress the laptop story and
Speaker 7: to marginalize and censor The New York Post, for example,
Speaker 7: because that was the only mainstream media platform that was
Speaker 7: doing anything with it, and there you have.
Speaker 1: You rigged your stolen election. And they bumped the New
Speaker 1: York Post story right off of Facebook. Yes, yes, it
Speaker 1: was not even allowed. You weren't even allowed to talk
Speaker 1: about it. I know. It's just to me. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you violate the First Amendment, if you're the government
Speaker 1: and you take away through coercion, the right to have
Speaker 1: freedom and dissemination of information just because it doesn't parrot
Speaker 1: your party.
Speaker 7: Line exactly, that is that is direct violate.
Speaker 1: It's unconstituted totalitarianism. It's illegal supposedly in this.
Speaker 7: Totalitarianism, if the government gets to decide what speech is
Speaker 7: allowed and what isn't. It's the First Amendment is first
Speaker 7: for a reason. Yes, that's the one on which all
Speaker 7: the others are are based on, based on Without that,
Speaker 7: you have no other rights. They can all be taken
Speaker 7: from you because then they can manipulate what you think,
Speaker 7: what you hear, what is true, and what is not.
Speaker 7: They if the government gets to decide that, with the
Speaker 7: disgraceful complicity of our lapdog media, then you don't have
Speaker 7: a free country.
Speaker 1: Anymore, you know. And I'm not gonna go too long
Speaker 1: with this, Peter, but I don't want to sound like
Speaker 1: I'm to iHeartMedia, but all during COVID, from the very
Speaker 1: from like late March of twenty twenty, after we've just
Speaker 1: been locked down, through the election, through all of the
Speaker 1: Biden scandals, through all of the obvious Harris flaws, I
Speaker 1: have not been told once that I cannot say these things,
Speaker 1: state my opinions, and have guests on that have contrary opinions.
Speaker 1: So I just want to again thank the powers that
Speaker 1: be that are in charge here for allowing me to
Speaker 1: do that, because you weren't allowed to do that in
Speaker 1: a lot of other spaces in this country, and you
Speaker 1: still aren't.
Speaker 7: In some in the media Ben diagram or circular Earth
Speaker 7: Van diagrams.
Speaker 1: I love a ven diagram. Hey. Circles.
Speaker 7: Yes, we'll just take one circle here, okay, and say
Speaker 7: that in all of the media, talk radio and conservative
Speaker 7: websites represent a very small.
Speaker 1: Slice of little piece of pie, and the.
Speaker 7: Rest of it is mainstream or legacy media, whatever you
Speaker 7: want to call it, or the fraud media, the fake news,
Speaker 7: and that is all begun to be basically propaganda for
Speaker 7: the far left or at least the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1: And it seems to me like some of that is
Speaker 1: unwinding now.
Speaker 7: I think it is because people are voting with their
Speaker 7: checkbooks and they're refusing to support people are the media
Speaker 7: with They're no longer getting subscribers. Look what's happening. They're
Speaker 7: laying off people in droves. Newspapers. The whole newspaper industry
Speaker 7: is basically collapsed because in part because of this, I
Speaker 7: saw it happen while I was working.
Speaker 1: More about the media and the election we're going to
Speaker 1: see in two months. Coming up, it's Labor Day, Gary, Jeff,
Speaker 1: and our guest is Peter Bronson. Yeah, here we are
Speaker 1: on Labor Day once again, rejoining us as Peter Bronson
Speaker 1: and Pete We we kind of delved into the media
Speaker 1: in the last segment, and I want to get a
Speaker 1: little bit deeper into it. Well that's my wheelhouse, you know.
Speaker 7: I know, I spent my entire career in newspapers, a
Speaker 7: little bit of TV, some radio, magazines, and now publishing.
Speaker 1: What was your first newspaper job.
Speaker 7: My first newspaper job was at the Onaway Outlook, which
Speaker 7: was way up north by the Macanaw Bridge in Onaway, Michigan,
Speaker 7: which I called on a Way to Nowhere.
Speaker 1: Well, you are clever so no, so from there you went.
Speaker 7: From there, I went back to the Greater Lansing area,
Speaker 7: where I worked for a chain of newspapers around Lansing
Speaker 7: and East Lansing. I'd grown up in East Lansing and
Speaker 7: did that until I was I landed a job in Cassa,
Speaker 7: Grand Arizona, and moved out to Arizona in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 1: Three, long away from Upper Michigan. It was bold to
Speaker 1: lave me.
Speaker 7: We just had our first child, and Kathy and I
Speaker 7: decided that, hey, let's go for it. Michigan was in
Speaker 7: terrible shape. We had double digit unemployment, we had terrible
Speaker 7: interest rates. So we went out to Arizona and a boy,
Speaker 7: that was one of the greatest things I ever is
Speaker 7: during the Carter administration would have been in nineteen eighty three, Okay,
Speaker 7: so right early years of Reagan, right before Reagan's tax
Speaker 7: cuts kicked in. It exactly helped solve some of those
Speaker 7: problems out in Arizona.
Speaker 1: They called us the black tag.
Speaker 7: People because we were fleeing the Midwest and the rust Belt.
Speaker 1: All right, so you're in Arizona and then you finally
Speaker 1: migrated back up this way to success.
Speaker 7: So from Cassi grand I moved down to Tucson, where
Speaker 7: I became editorial page editor and columnist at the Tucson Citizen,
Speaker 7: which was a daily afternoon daily. Really fun there. Boy,
Speaker 7: did we have a lot of fun newspaper and at
Speaker 7: that place a lot of good friends there. Still go
Speaker 7: back to Tucson quite a bit because I love it.
Speaker 7: Great city. And then in ninety two I was hired
Speaker 7: to become editorial page editor at the Cincinnati Acquire, where
Speaker 7: I had a run for almost twenty years.
Speaker 1: As an editor and columnist. Marvelous run. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: so much fun. And you were here during the Timothy
Speaker 1: Thomas riots. And that led to the Behind the Lines
Speaker 1: book about the police collaborative, Yes, which was it resulted
Speaker 1: out of that, which.
Speaker 7: Was done kind of at my own peril, because as
Speaker 7: I wrote the book, I presented a totally different point
Speaker 7: of view of events by interviewing the police than what
Speaker 7: was presented in the pages of our own pape. Sure,
Speaker 7: so here's this contrarian version where the police get to
Speaker 7: have their side of the story told.
Speaker 1: Finally, and that did.
Speaker 7: Not make me a lot of friends in the newsroom,
Speaker 7: as you might be suppecially here.
Speaker 1: But hey, oh I was when I'm here in the halls,
Speaker 1: I walked past the news department, and they're polite enough
Speaker 1: to say hello.
Speaker 7: Well, that's more than I can say for some people
Speaker 7: in the Acquiring news room.
Speaker 1: And then they're probably happy when I closed the door
Speaker 1: of the studio, I'm out of their sight. I didn't
Speaker 1: wear my Trump Vance shirt here this morning.
Speaker 7: So anyway, I always said, if they ever took a vote,
Speaker 7: I would have been out of my job there. If
Speaker 7: the newsroom voted, if the readers voted, different story landslide
Speaker 7: in my favor, because they wanted a different point of view.
Speaker 7: They wanted to hear both sides of the story. They
Speaker 7: wanted objective reporting. Yeah, not just the dogma of the
Speaker 7: left and the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1: So the media, this was the I guess the thing
Speaker 1: I want to do originally get you with this line
Speaker 1: of conversation, Peter. The media needs this election to be close.
Speaker 1: They need to keep calling it razor thin margin. They
Speaker 1: need to have the the back and forth. They need
Speaker 1: to have the anxiousness from their listeners or viewers, because
Speaker 1: it fuels the campaign money machine on both sides. Then
Speaker 1: it fuels support of the media, and it fuels support
Speaker 1: of the media, the clicks and the eyeballs, they get
Speaker 1: the attention that they crave so much. Being a member
Speaker 1: of the media, yes, we're guilty of craving attention. That's
Speaker 1: why we're on the radio, I understand. But they have
Speaker 1: taken it to a whole new level in this presidential
Speaker 1: election year. But it happens almost in every presidential election.
Speaker 1: As you were noting, well, Athadia wants to foster this
Speaker 1: notion that it is closer than it actually may be,
Speaker 1: and that works for three purposes, the one you mentioned,
Speaker 1: which is to monetize anxiety for the media and for
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party.
Speaker 7: What they do is they make you feel like you
Speaker 7: have to stay constantly tuned in because things are happening
Speaker 7: right now, as if you have some way to influence it.
Speaker 7: You don't sure, but that's how they keep you in
Speaker 7: a constant state of anxiety. The second reason is that
Speaker 7: if they can figure out a way to steal this
Speaker 7: election again, then by saying all the way leading up
Speaker 7: that it's very, very close, then it makes it easier
Speaker 7: and more palatable for people to accept that no, it
Speaker 7: wasn't stolen, it was just a close election that went
Speaker 7: their way. So, for example, polls that might show somebody
Speaker 7: ten points out.
Speaker 1: Well, we can't have that.
Speaker 7: We can't have that, So we've got to make it
Speaker 7: close enough so that it never looks like it's.
Speaker 1: Beyond the margin of fraud. Right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And then of course the third reason is that
Speaker 7: they are all in for their side, and this is
Speaker 7: what they desperately want to believe and have to believe,
Speaker 7: is that they're winning because it is almost an existential
Speaker 7: threat to them to have failed and lost an election.
Speaker 7: I don't think anybody, I know a lot of people
Speaker 7: on both sides are deeply invested in politics, but I
Speaker 7: don't think anybody lives and dies for their personal happiness
Speaker 7: and worldview as much as the left does in politics.
Speaker 1: I know some people who aren't necessarily on the left
Speaker 1: or Democrats, but boy, they're pretty they're prett rabbitis they're
Speaker 1: pretty rabid. Yes, I've seen a lot of near foaming
Speaker 1: at the mouth. Oh, definitely when you get to and
Speaker 1: it's on both sides.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that they did this with the the election
Speaker 1: with John Kerry. Yes, they said, Michael Decaucus, go back to.
Speaker 7: The other elections and they'll they'll show you polling that
Speaker 7: says Walter Mondale is going to win all the way
Speaker 7: up until the final week, and all of a sudden
Speaker 7: the polls flip and say, no, it's going to be Reagan.
Speaker 7: So what they can do is that that helps to
Speaker 7: suppress the vote because it makes Republicans discourage They say,
Speaker 7: Walter Mondale's gonna win, why should I vote it? But
Speaker 7: it also it gives them a chance to go back
Speaker 7: after the election when everybody looks at it and said,
Speaker 7: wait a minute, you said Mondale's no. No, we had
Speaker 7: it right. We had it right in the last week
Speaker 7: before the election. So I've seen this happen. It's just
Speaker 7: it's it's transparently dishonest. I don't have much confidence in
Speaker 7: polls of any kind anymore. I think they can if
Speaker 7: you dive deep down into the questions and the methody,
Speaker 7: you can always find where the thumb is on the
Speaker 7: scale to push the answers in the direction that they want.
Speaker 1: Well, both parties, both candidates have internal polling which they
Speaker 1: don't release to the public, so they know what's really
Speaker 1: going on right now. The Hairs campaign and the Trump
Speaker 1: campaign both understand where the country's at. And I have
Speaker 1: a prediction. Okay, what's that. And I've felt this way
Speaker 1: for probably I mean even since the DNC and they
Speaker 1: just anointed Kamala to be the standard bearer. I think
Speaker 1: it's not even close. And when I say not even close,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about electoral college landslide for Donald Trump. I really,
Speaker 1: I've just I've had this feeling. I've been wrong before.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong this time. Okay, anybody holds me
Speaker 1: my feet to the fire, I'll say, yeah, I'll admit
Speaker 1: I said this, you know, on on Labor Day that
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a massive rejection of
Speaker 1: the last four years and the lack of direction of
Speaker 1: what the Democrats are offering, or because I don't think
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris has any clue and her position is on
Speaker 1: anything when she's already flip flopped on the no tax
Speaker 1: on tips thing and at the border and all of
Speaker 1: the rest of this.
Speaker 7: It's a it's a stealth candidacy again, just like Biden
Speaker 7: in the basement, so people can fill in the blank
Speaker 7: and believe what they want to. I would say that
Speaker 7: I think I would hope and pray you're right, because
Speaker 7: I don't think this country can stand by and ratify
Speaker 7: open borders rise and crime. Horrible week, foreign policy surrender, Yeah,
Speaker 7: surrender in Afghanistan, a terrible economy, a cratering economy, increases
Speaker 7: in taxes again, reckless, profligate spending. I don't think this
Speaker 7: country can ratify that. I don't want to believe that
Speaker 7: we would ratify all that, plus the social agenda that
Speaker 7: we see on the left of basically child abuse with
Speaker 7: the things that they are ratifying and they want to
Speaker 7: see happen with children making chan decisions at the age
Speaker 7: of ten to make sex changes him.
Speaker 1: All frames that as mind your own business. Well, then
Speaker 1: why is the government getting involved? Yeah, with signing bills
Speaker 1: that allow tampons in boys' bathrooms, unlimited abortion, unlimited unfettered abortion.
Speaker 7: Yes, I mean all of this. I just don't think
Speaker 7: this country is that country. However, there is. We've become
Speaker 7: so tribal that there are people who would vote for anything,
Speaker 7: and I mean anything, And Kamala Harris fits that bill
Speaker 7: because she is nothing at this point. You don't know
Speaker 7: anything about her except what her aids sometimes at anyone
Speaker 7: but Trump exactly. So they will vote for anything, any
Speaker 7: empty suit or pants suit in her case, any empty
Speaker 7: pants suit before they would vote for Trump. So I
Speaker 7: think that we do have a nation that's kind of
Speaker 7: split on the fault.
Speaker 1: Line in it. It's you're never going to bring those
Speaker 1: people around, Peter. It's all was a joy to have you,
Speaker 1: Glad to be here with you as always. All right,
Speaker 1: we continue Gary jeff on Labor Day, if on Labor
Speaker 1: Day for Brian Thomas in the aftermath of one of
Speaker 1: the biggest celebrations anywhere in the country in a metropolitan area,
Speaker 1: Riverfests yesterday and last night highlighted and capped off with
Speaker 1: the main event, the Western and Southern WEBN fireworks, which
Speaker 1: of course I did not see. In fact, for those
Speaker 1: of us who do part time radio for the most part,
Speaker 1: like myself, you kind of live for the holidays because
Speaker 1: hopefully the host will take off and you can take
Speaker 1: advantage and fill that slot. And so thus here I am.
Speaker 1: But that the caveat in all of that is you
Speaker 1: don't get to stay up late. Certainly you don't want to.
Speaker 1: I mean some people do. I think they're insane for
Speaker 1: doing it, for trying to do it. But you don't
Speaker 1: stay up for the fireworks. And I did have one
Speaker 1: eye open on the TV in the bedroom the other
Speaker 1: eye was closed on the pillow. I did see the
Speaker 1: opening of the Western and Southern Web and fireworks last night.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you got to witness them on
Speaker 1: TV or in person. And if you were watching them
Speaker 1: in person, what are you doing up? Like me? You
Speaker 1: had to work today Labor Day. But the drone show
Speaker 1: that they put on the first ever time as part
Speaker 1: of a fireworks celebration at Riverfest was phenomenal. And I'm
Speaker 1: an old school guy. I like my incendiary devices. I
Speaker 1: like to watch stuff blow up, and I will, hopefully
Speaker 1: for many years into the future. But the drone thing,
Speaker 1: the things that they can do with the technology that
Speaker 1: is available are horrific sometimes, but they're also you know,
Speaker 1: there are those moments where you just stare and wonder
Speaker 1: and go, wow, what's next? But that was really good
Speaker 1: last night. I saw that much of it. I didn't
Speaker 1: I DVR the incendiary devices. Sadly, there's another side of
Speaker 1: the coin. On a big celebratory night like it was
Speaker 1: last night in Cincinnati. In northern Kentucky, there was a
Speaker 1: woman shot at the Banks. Female victim taken to Children's
Speaker 1: hospital last night following a shooting around eleven thirty near
Speaker 1: Great American Ballpark and the more Line Loggerhouse at the Banks.
Speaker 1: Authority said the female victim was taking a children's hospital.
Speaker 1: Victim's condition remains unclear as of six point thirty four
Speaker 1: and this Monday morning. The violence continues, and I am
Speaker 1: told by people in the know that it happens a
Speaker 1: whole lot more than it's even reported. Especially in this
Speaker 1: town of Chicago. They can't hide it, but in Cincinnati
Speaker 1: they can get around it. I'm not saying that they
Speaker 1: do that on a regular basis, but I have been
Speaker 1: told by other people that the occurrences of violence, especially
Speaker 1: in that downtown area, and the city fathers not only
Speaker 1: have a moral obligation to put the criminal, to put
Speaker 1: and keep the criminals in jail because most of this
Speaker 1: is recidivist or its gang related, but there's also a financial,
Speaker 1: a great financial benefit to keeping us safe. And so
Speaker 1: the pressure should come not only from ordinary citizens like
Speaker 1: you and me, asking that prosecutors prosecute properly and put
Speaker 1: people in jail when they belong in jail and out
Speaker 1: of society, that the police are able to do their
Speaker 1: job and arrest the perpetrators, and that the community community
Speaker 1: participates by giving the police information. But again another shooting
Speaker 1: last night at the banks. In the midst of all
Speaker 1: of that, revelry sad six thirty six Sheriff Richard Mack.
Speaker 1: You know, sheriffs are on the front line of defending
Speaker 1: not only our safety and our property, but the constitution.
Speaker 1: And a guy who firmly believes that, retired Sheriff Richard
Speaker 1: Mack will join us as we continue this Labor Day show.
Speaker 1: It's six thirty six at fifty five KRC.
Speaker 9: The talk states, this is fifty five KRC and iHeartRadio station.
Speaker 5: Oh the sharp being has such team and his shows.
Speaker 1: Then early it is Gary jeffon Labor Day and our
Speaker 1: next guest. He is well, he's not only was the
Speaker 1: long arm of the law for many many years, but
Speaker 1: he is still fighting for all of our constitutional rights
Speaker 1: and he's been a constitutional freedom fighter. I would say
Speaker 1: his name is Sheriff Richard Mack. First and foremost, Welcome
Speaker 1: to the program. Sheriff Mac, how are you.
Speaker 6: Thank you so much. Gary, It's great to be with you.
Speaker 6: I'm doing great and I wish America was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've certainly been doing your part. From what I
Speaker 1: have learned about in what I knew about you before
Speaker 1: we sat down for this chat. Coming up at the
Speaker 1: end of this week this Friday and Saturday in Orlando, Florida,
Speaker 1: is the Foundation for Freedom conference that you are heading up.
Speaker 1: And the call has been out to invite patriots, leaders,
Speaker 1: sheriffs from all around the country, and elected officials to
Speaker 1: come into participated and speakers from across the nation will
Speaker 1: be there to help himpower and revive our country one
Speaker 1: county at a time, which has been your hallmark as
Speaker 1: a sheriff. First and foremost, tell me, Sheriff mac where
Speaker 1: you were sheriff in Arizona. What county?
Speaker 6: Okay, it was Graham, like Graham Cracker, gotcha. And that's
Speaker 6: in the southeast part of the state. And it's just
Speaker 6: one county above the border the Mexican border. Only Cochise
Speaker 6: County separates Graham County from the border.
Speaker 1: What's amazing to me is that in this current presidential campaign,
Speaker 1: you have one side now saying a person who said,
Speaker 1: not one wall of border mile, not one mile of
Speaker 1: border wall will ever, not one foot will be built.
Speaker 1: And this was her assertion all along, and they stopped
Speaker 1: President Trump's plans to help protect our southern border with
Speaker 1: that wall and the other policies that President Trump had
Speaker 1: in place when he was our chief executive, our commander
Speaker 1: Wall was there down exactly and selling the scrap for
Speaker 1: you know, selling the rusted out wall that they left
Speaker 1: there for junk. So anyway, they've already wasted all that money,
Speaker 1: wasted our time, and in the meantime allowed our country
Speaker 1: to be well borderless essentially, except for people like you
Speaker 1: and other sheriffs who are on the front lines of
Speaker 1: this every day. And you want to talk about on
Speaker 1: the front lines. You're one county from the Mexican border
Speaker 1: in Graham County, Arizona. But now, of course, because of
Speaker 1: the Biden Harris administrations want to and an ability to
Speaker 1: fly these foreign criminal trespassers in on airplanes and bust
Speaker 1: them all over the country after they cross illegally on
Speaker 1: our southern border to cities all over America. I heard
Speaker 1: an interview this week with a woman in Aurora, Colorado,
Speaker 1: that's quite a ways from the southern border, and the
Speaker 1: entire she said, entire city blocks have been taken over
Speaker 1: by this violent Venezuelan gang. And I'm not sure of
Speaker 1: the name of this game. It really doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: the name is. They're criminals and they've been allowed to
Speaker 1: come into this country and break our laws. And now
Speaker 1: they're breaking the laws in Aurora, Colorado and one hundred
Speaker 1: other cities across this country. Why has this been allowed
Speaker 1: to happen? And you say sheriffs can play a key role,
Speaker 1: and they have. In Florida, forty four out of sixty
Speaker 1: seven counties, the sheriffs have said, you know, our constitution
Speaker 1: is more important than your illegal, unconstitutional federal dictates. And
Speaker 1: you had a great success in eliminating as far as
Speaker 1: our Second Amendment rights, our constitutionally god given Second Amendment
Speaker 1: rights of carrying firearms. You had this big victory at
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. But tell me how sheriffs are actually
Speaker 1: in where they have the courage and they have the
Speaker 1: constitutional conviction to fight what the federal government has allowed
Speaker 1: in having our laws broken over and over and over
Speaker 1: again by millions. What are sheriffs doing and what can
Speaker 1: sheriffs do in each county?
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, the sheriff is the clio and
Speaker 6: in my Supreme Court case, and people need to know this.
Speaker 6: This is the only time in history where a couple
Speaker 6: of sheriffs sued the federal government, took it all the
Speaker 6: way to the Supreme Court and won against the overreach
Speaker 6: of the Clinton administration. So one of my favorite clips
Speaker 6: is I sued the Clintons and lived to tell about it,
Speaker 6: and knowing that we beat them. And so the thing
Speaker 6: of it is that the federal government will continue to
Speaker 6: do whatever it wants until somebody says, you're not doing
Speaker 6: that here and the constitution does not allow you to
Speaker 6: do that. And I'm sworn to upholl and defend the constitution.
Speaker 6: And just because you don't doesn't mean I'm going to
Speaker 6: go along with you. Quite to the contrary, I will
Speaker 6: defend the Constitution, I will keep my oath of office,
Speaker 6: and I will protect the civil rights. Has anybody heard
Speaker 6: of civil rights lately? Martin Luther King's civil rights battle?
Speaker 6: You know, our organization really pushes for civil rights for
Speaker 6: all people, and yet I get attacked for that all
Speaker 6: the time that we don't follow the you know, we
Speaker 6: don't care about people, and we're racist and we're bigots
Speaker 6: and all this other stuff. And these are supposedly people
Speaker 6: who really care about stuff popping racism and violence, and
Speaker 6: we actually really do that. But these other groups attack
Speaker 6: us because they said we're extremists and violent. We have
Speaker 6: never espoused or advocated violence of any kind. We've never
Speaker 6: committed an act of violence of any kind. And in
Speaker 6: twenty years of law enforcement, I never committed an act
Speaker 6: of violence. And now these groups want to say that
Speaker 6: I'm a domestic terrorist who are violent. And even one
Speaker 6: of them is the Southern probably Law Center, and their
Speaker 6: lawyer was arrested recently in Atlanta for domestic terrorism. Nobody
Speaker 6: in our group has ever been arrested for that, but
Speaker 6: they do. But the key component of your question is this.
Speaker 6: The sheriff is the ultimate protector of the people. The
Speaker 6: Supreme Court case called us who sued the federal government.
Speaker 6: They called us the khlios the chief law enforcement officer.
Speaker 6: And indeed, your sheriff is the ultimate law enforcement authority
Speaker 6: in your county and in this country. And another reason
Speaker 6: why he is is because he reports directly to you.
Speaker 6: He does not report to another bureaucrat, to another politician,
Speaker 6: or to a county manager or town manager. His only boss.
Speaker 6: Now get this, folks, his only boss is you. We
Speaker 6: the people in your county, are the boss of the sheriff.
Speaker 6: And every four years, we determine if we want to
Speaker 6: keep him, if he's been doing his job, we decide,
Speaker 6: and we delegate that power to be our CLEO. He
Speaker 6: gets that power from us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, THEFF.
Speaker 6: That's why he's important. That's why he's such an important position.
Speaker 1: The sheriff of Hamilton County does not report to the mayor.
Speaker 1: It doesn't report to the council. And I think that
Speaker 1: the sheriff of Hamilton County, Ohio ought to remember that. Uh.
Speaker 1: And Uh Richard K. Jones, who's the sheriff of Butler County.
Speaker 1: That's a guy who's got some Yeah.
Speaker 6: I saw him come out on the news about COVID stuff.
Speaker 6: And we had a probably five hundred and fifty different
Speaker 6: sheriff's nationwide who stood against the COVID mandates, and God
Speaker 6: bless every one of them for doing it. And we've
Speaker 6: had you alluded to the Second Amendment. We have had
Speaker 6: twice sheriffs take a very strong stand against the White
Speaker 6: House and against Washington d c moves to make local
Speaker 6: citizens criminals just for owning a gun. And so sheriffs
Speaker 6: have stood against that. Our case stayed the Second Amendments,
Speaker 6: and our case stopped other legislation that was going to
Speaker 6: be passed because we've won on Brady Bill one and
Speaker 6: the Brady Built movement named for James Brady, who was
Speaker 6: the press secretary of Ronald Reagan who got shot during
Speaker 6: the assassination attempt on Reagan in March of nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 6: We found out after Brady Bill one that we beat
Speaker 6: Brady Bill's two, three, four, and five. All got stopped
Speaker 6: because a couple of sheriffs beat number one at the
Speaker 6: US Supreme Court. And so sheriffs have been doing a
Speaker 6: lot to save America. And we we love it when
Speaker 6: sheriffs take a stand, and it's called interposition. We're not
Speaker 6: talking about a physical fight with the federal government. We're
Speaker 6: talking about standing in the way, which is interposition.
Speaker 1: All right, hang on and sheriff, Sheriff Max, that's what
Speaker 1: our job is. We're going to talk more about this
Speaker 1: in just a moment. I've got to take a real
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll come back. Okay, you got it.
Speaker 1: You got a sheriff Richard Mack. It's Gary jeff on
Speaker 1: Labor Day fifty five the talk station i KRCV Talk
Speaker 1: Station six point fifty three. Gary Jeff on Labor Day
Speaker 1: again for Brian. Sheriff Richard Mack will rejoin us here
Speaker 1: in a few minutes at the top of the hour,
Speaker 1: talking about the border, about COVID mandates, and the Sheriff's role,
Speaker 1: which he says is the most crucial. They are the
Speaker 1: front line of protection of our constitutional rights and the
Speaker 1: right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for
Speaker 1: all American citizens. Wonder how he feels about the unborn.
Speaker 1: I guess they they're not allowed to vote and they
Speaker 1: don't pay taxes, so that means they're not citizens, right.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking the other day about how insane
Speaker 1: it is that in our society, with years of sin
Speaker 1: entitlement via the original passing of the court case of
Speaker 1: Roe v. Wighed back in nineteen seventy three, fifty years
Speaker 1: of tolerating this sin in our day and age. Now
Speaker 1: think about this, and I'm sure you have before. It's
Speaker 1: controversial to tell people that they can't murder another human
Speaker 1: being because the baby is a human being. But that's controversial,
Speaker 1: that's hateful. You don't care about a women's right to
Speaker 1: reproductive care. It's going to be a major thing on
Speaker 1: the ballot in just about sixty days. And it's a
Speaker 1: winning issue for Democrats because they truly are the party
Speaker 1: of death. The party of abortion is the party of death.
Speaker 1: And now that the Supreme Court is ruled and overturned
Speaker 1: Roe v. Wade, it is rightly constitutionally in the hands
Speaker 1: of each individual's date. That's President Trump's position. I respect that,
Speaker 1: But still it's controversial in our day and age, in
Speaker 1: our lifetime that it's controversial to say you can't murder
Speaker 1: another person. How does that ever make sense? How do
Speaker 1: people justify that? It's never It's never made any sense
Speaker 1: to me. But you know, we had this, this malaise
Speaker 1: and this supposed right to kill unborn children for fifty
Speaker 1: years in this country, so I can understand why some
Speaker 1: people are a little bit confused. Six fifty six more
Speaker 1: was shared Richard Mack on how sheriffs in many cases
Speaker 1: are saving their counties and can save this country. It's
Speaker 1: Labor Day. I'm Gary Jay at six fifty six and
Speaker 1: fifty five KRC the talk station as we continue our
Speaker 1: conversation with our lead CLEO. This morning, Sheriff Richard Mack
Speaker 1: joins us and there is a huge conference. First, Sheriff,
Speaker 1: I want to talk about this conference that's coming up
Speaker 1: at the end of this week in Orlando, Florida, where
Speaker 1: you're inviting sheriffs and elected leaders and patriots who care
Speaker 1: about our constitution and our country to gather together for
Speaker 1: this two day event Friday and Saturday this week. Tell
Speaker 1: me a little bit more about the conference, who maybe
Speaker 1: who you've got lined up to come already, and what
Speaker 1: you're expecting out of this.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's September sixth and seventh, as you mentioned, this
Speaker 6: coming weekend, and we have sheriff's county Commissioners, the Black
Speaker 6: Robe Regiment, which is a group of pastors who believe
Speaker 6: in standing for liberty and standing for civil rights. We've
Speaker 6: got the ApoA, the American Police Officers Alliance CSPOA, our group,
Speaker 6: Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, the Florida Freedom Foundation,
Speaker 6: and there's a lot of people signing up from Florida
Speaker 6: and several sheriffs from Florida and the people who kind of,
Speaker 6: as you alluded to earlier, were creating sanctuary counties for
Speaker 6: our constitution and creating constitutional counties. Those people are going
Speaker 6: to be there, and I believe that's call your county.
Speaker 6: But we have constitutional lawyers who are going to be
Speaker 6: talking about the process and the legality of all of this.
Speaker 6: But the bottom line is we have maintained since I
Speaker 6: was sheriff, I've been fighting for this, and then I
Speaker 6: formed the CSPOA twenty eleven. But we've been saying that
Speaker 6: if the federal government or any other government agent or
Speaker 6: burequet is contrary to the Constitution, that is it is
Speaker 6: not wait and see if the Supreme Court will take
Speaker 6: a case on that. And then even though that's exactly
Speaker 6: what I did, but it's too costly and it's too
Speaker 6: time consuming, And then and by this sixth or seventh year,
Speaker 6: the Supreme Court says, now, I don't guess we'll take it.
Speaker 6: That means the abuse continued all that time and will continue.
Speaker 6: And when when people are being abused and their civil
Speaker 6: rights are being violated, like like like Martin Luther King.
Speaker 6: Martin Luther King was arrested over thirty times by corrupt
Speaker 6: government officials. Okay, let's just be real here. His battle
Speaker 6: was against corrupt government. Donald Trump's battle is the same
Speaker 6: one as Martin Luther King's corrupt government going after him.
Speaker 6: He's been arrested or charged over Yeah, he was arrested
Speaker 6: over three times, just like Martin Luther King. They both
Speaker 6: had the same fight, folks, against corrupt government. Wouldn't it
Speaker 6: have been great if some sheriffs would have said, I'm sorry,
Speaker 6: but you're not going to arrest Martin Luther King this
Speaker 6: time just because he's having a peaceful march or peaceably assembling.
Speaker 6: And same thing with Trump. Some sheriff should have stood
Speaker 6: in the way and said, no, I don't think you're
Speaker 6: going to do that in my county. But I guess
Speaker 6: that would have been Palm Beach County when they went
Speaker 6: through Mari Lago and did all that. But this two
Speaker 6: tier justice system that exists, folks, it's not to take
Speaker 6: to the Supreme Court. It's to stop at the county level.
Speaker 6: And it's something that sheriff should be doing, and it's
Speaker 6: something we promised to do when we took our oath
Speaker 6: of allegiance to the Constitution.
Speaker 1: It's amazing to me, Sheriff Mac, how many times you
Speaker 1: have referenced now taking an oath that you book seriously
Speaker 1: obviously to uphold and defend our constitution. These elected corrupt
Speaker 1: officials take the same oath and it's like it was
Speaker 1: like they just said, yeah, I'll have another glass of water.
Speaker 1: It meant nothing to them. Obviously, by their actions. Actions
Speaker 1: speak volumes way louder than words, and their actions have
Speaker 1: proven them unfit to hold these offices because first thing
Speaker 1: they do when they get into office is violate their oath.
Speaker 6: Yeah, right after they take the oath, they summarily ignore
Speaker 6: it or wittingly violate it. And that's the one thing
Speaker 6: that got to me the most. And that's actually why
Speaker 6: we formed the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, so
Speaker 6: that we could bring attention back to our promise and
Speaker 6: our oath and to our job and responsibility. And that's
Speaker 6: why it's there. And I had a reporter from Michigan
Speaker 6: Common just a couple of weeks ago, and he said, man,
Speaker 6: you've really done a job in Michigan. I said, why
Speaker 6: do you say that? He said, just about every single
Speaker 6: sheriff race in Michigan is talking about constitutional sheriffs and
Speaker 6: which Canada is the most constitutional sheriff. And I said, well,
Speaker 6: that's good to hear. I hope they vote for the
Speaker 6: right one, you know.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you if somebody wants to they've
Speaker 1: got the free time, I don't have the free time
Speaker 1: to fly to Orlando this weekend, although that sounds really nice.
Speaker 1: But if somebody still wants to attend the Foundation for
Speaker 1: Freedom conference coming up on Friday and Saturday this week,
Speaker 1: is there a way? Is there a path for them
Speaker 1: or a website?
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 6: And Gary, I will tell you, I will personally comp
Speaker 6: you a hotel room at the hotel that's taking place
Speaker 6: at and that's the Rosen Shingle Creek Hotel in Orlando.
Speaker 6: Pretty nice place.
Speaker 1: If if if I didn't if I did not have
Speaker 1: to work, and if I if I don't work, I
Speaker 1: don't get paid. There's no PTO for ery Jeb.
Speaker 6: Funny thing about that, but if you could make it
Speaker 6: all right, Uh, my offer stands. But everyone should be
Speaker 6: going to our website and and all I all, I know.
Speaker 6: The simple one is CSPO a dot org and at
Speaker 6: that site you can become a member of the c
Speaker 6: SPO a posse and we helped train you to work
Speaker 6: with your sheriff locally. But this event will be all
Speaker 6: about that and more. And that is saving America from
Speaker 6: what's coming.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 6: And there's intel that there's going to be some real
Speaker 6: attacks on our infrastructure. In October seventh from Hamaque going
Speaker 6: after us one year after the day that they went
Speaker 6: after Israel and killed kids and tortured kids and other
Speaker 6: things that they did. And there's going to be an
Speaker 6: attack from within because that because the open border has
Speaker 6: allowed tens of thousands of terrafts to come into our
Speaker 6: country and they have and they're not here to play tittleweeks, folks.
Speaker 6: They're going to do an attack. An intel has said
Speaker 6: that it's going to be October seventh, but whenever it is,
Speaker 6: I don't care the date, but it's going to happen,
Speaker 6: and we need to be prepared and we need to
Speaker 6: be prepared for the violence that will come as a
Speaker 6: result of the election coming up. What November sixth looks like,
Speaker 6: and we want sheriffs and the public to be prepared.
Speaker 6: How is our infrastructure being protected, the grid, our water
Speaker 6: supplies and so on. Are they being protected? Do we
Speaker 6: really realize that they need protection and they need security.
Speaker 6: But this meeting will be addressing a lot of that
Speaker 6: and a lot more. How we can work we the
Speaker 6: people and keep this a peaceful movement to restore our
Speaker 6: constitution and maintain God given comes to republic.
Speaker 1: Amen Sheriff Richard Mack, thank you so much. Give me
Speaker 1: that that quick little address again.
Speaker 6: Okay, c SPOA dot Org. All right, that's where you
Speaker 6: on the front page. It'll talk about the Freedom Foundation Conference.
Speaker 6: You're all welcome. You get there and you're gonna love it.
Speaker 6: It's it's something that we've got to do. This is
Speaker 6: not a wake up tour meeting. This is a plan
Speaker 6: of action event, and it's go back into your counties,
Speaker 6: talk to your sheriffs and your friends and get your
Speaker 6: posse going and get preparations going for what's coming this fall.
Speaker 1: Sheriff Richard Mac, I pray you're successful because your success
Speaker 1: means survival for our country.
Speaker 10: Right.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm afraid you're right. I'm afraid you're right. This
Speaker 6: is a this is the last ditch, last hope.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you very much, you know, and I'm
Speaker 1: not depressed. I'm encouraged.
Speaker 4: How about that?
Speaker 1: Amen? All right, Sheriff Richard Mack with us. It's Gary
Speaker 1: Jeff on Labor Day.
Speaker 9: This is fifty five KRC and iHeartRadio station.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what prop those windows open this morning.
Speaker 1: It's nice on our way to seventy nine for a
Speaker 1: high Jemp a lot less human than it has been.
Speaker 1: That's a great thing, and it's a holiday for a
Speaker 1: lot of people. Tomorrow pleasant and eighty and to Wednesday
Speaker 1: we get even warmer. There is a slight chance of
Speaker 1: rain on Friday, and even not enough to make a
Speaker 1: difference then at least the way it looks right now,
Speaker 1: sixty one degrees. And it's time for our next guest
Speaker 1: as we continue on this Monday Labor Day on fifty
Speaker 1: five krc V Talk station. Back to our little special
Speaker 1: show here, Gary Jeff on Labor Day and joining us,
Speaker 1: another guest that I really enjoyed talking to find him
Speaker 1: ultimately fascinating and interesting beyond a lot of other folks
Speaker 1: that I've interviewed. I've interviewed a lot of people, but
Speaker 1: I've had him back numerous times for that particular reason.
Speaker 1: I'm always fascinated by his observations and his historical references.
Speaker 1: Rick Robinson man, Gary Jeff, you need to get out
Speaker 1: more often. If I'm the if I'm the best you
Speaker 1: could come up with you, you need to get this
Speaker 1: whole show is filled with the best. So you made
Speaker 1: the grade, you may make the great well You're playing
Speaker 1: on Saturday Wow, Wow, you made the cut.
Speaker 3: The cut.
Speaker 1: I've made the cut barely out of the bottom. I
Speaker 1: was the one who made it by by making the
Speaker 1: pot on the left. Hall Rick has had a lifetime
Speaker 1: and as a lawyer, and he is an author, and
Speaker 1: the latest book that's still out there is nineteen sixty eight,
Speaker 1: talks about many of the great parallels between nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: eight and this year twenty twenty four, both presidential election
Speaker 1: years and both fraught. Was some of the same kinds
Speaker 1: of questions in front of the nation, and there's some
Speaker 1: there's some distinct differences too. I think there are there
Speaker 1: are distinct differences, and part of that has to do
Speaker 1: with just the context of the times.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: One of the tough things about writing this book, Gary Jeff,
Speaker 1: was being able to put your backself back in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty eight and yet not be impacted by the manner
Speaker 1: in which stories were written, words were used, things were
Speaker 1: happening at the time, you know, three TV stations instead
Speaker 1: of one hundred and fifty, those type of things that
Speaker 1: were happening. That's one of the things that you have
Speaker 1: to look at as the context of not only what
Speaker 1: was similar, but what was different. We were both right
Speaker 1: in discussing who would be the Democrat nominee for president
Speaker 1: this year, in that we knew that Joe Biden was
Speaker 1: not going to be ultimately that nominee. He was the
Speaker 1: nominee according to the primaries. Millions of people voted for
Speaker 1: Joe Biden. Nobody voted for Kamala Harris. But in nineteen
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty eight, nobody voted for Humphrey either, right, And
Speaker 1: I think that that maybe pretends what's ahead in our
Speaker 1: future two months from now, because not enough people voted
Speaker 1: for Humphrey to put him in the Oval office. No,
Speaker 1: he didn't. And Humphrey, I think, and I think it's
Speaker 1: going to be the same this year. Well, I think
Speaker 1: it's going to be the same issue that eventually comes down.
Speaker 1: If you remember, looking back in sixty eight, you had
Speaker 1: Hubert Humphrey. Johnson gets out. Johnson believes that he can't win,
Speaker 1: he can and Cronkite, Walter Cronkite, has gone against him
Speaker 1: on Vietnam. He realizes it's time to get out of
Speaker 1: the race. He passes the torch onto Humphrey, who at
Speaker 1: that point all of the primaries had been run and
Speaker 1: or many states decided their deleg account by caucus, So
Speaker 1: Humphrey jun jumps into that whole thing. But when they
Speaker 1: get down to the actual convention, and you think of
Speaker 1: all the turmoil that you had between their first off,
Speaker 1: you had, you have Bobby Kennedy was killed, you had
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King was killed, you had all this turmoil
Speaker 1: that was happening. But when they get to the convention
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty eight, Hubert Humphrey has to make a
Speaker 1: decision on whether or not he's going to support or
Speaker 1: oppose the peace plank in the platform. And there was
Speaker 1: quite a movement going on in the Democratic Party to
Speaker 1: get out of Vietnam. A peace plank gets put up.
Speaker 1: Johnson's deal with the President. President Johnson had been he
Speaker 1: would not go against Johnson on his how he was
Speaker 1: handling Vietnam. So he opposes the peace plank, which ends
Speaker 1: up not getting put into it. Well, the Democrats leave
Speaker 1: that convention so split it over that one particular issue
Speaker 1: that Hubert Humphrey didn't stand a chance. Starting on the
Speaker 1: Thursday after the convention, it was it was over. It
Speaker 1: was done. Now I guess the question is for Harris,
Speaker 1: is Gaza going to cause the same split in Democratic
Speaker 1: circles as did the Vietnam War, and I think that
Speaker 1: remains to be seen. Why didn't they picked Shapiro, who
Speaker 1: had been a much much more obvious choice for a
Speaker 1: vice president, over this bumbling football assistant football co volunteer
Speaker 1: assistant football coach who says mind your own business. At
Speaker 1: the same time, his administration in Minnesota had a COVID
Speaker 1: hotline where people could tell on their neighbors. That's not
Speaker 1: a mind your own business candidate. The guy is a
Speaker 1: dufe in my opinion. Well, I want you to know
Speaker 1: I called journey men to the local authorities before I
Speaker 1: got here. I just want you to know that to
Speaker 1: think keep their list of subversion people. I want them
Speaker 1: to know that I'm still out there at it. I'm
Speaker 1: not going away. But the bottom line is, when you
Speaker 1: look at all of this, and there has been so
Speaker 1: much gyration over the over whether it's Vance or whether
Speaker 1: it's Walls, nobody votes for vice president. I get that,
Speaker 1: nobody votes for vice president. He did not help her,
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. I cannot think of many vice
Speaker 1: presidents who ever did help the presidential candidate. It's been
Speaker 1: very rare in those times that somebody has come up
Speaker 1: and you know, saved the day as a VP candidate,
Speaker 1: it just doesn't happen because people always look to the front,
Speaker 1: They look to the leadership, They look to the person
Speaker 1: that is the number one candidate going on there, that's
Speaker 1: what's going to decide. In sixty eight, did Hubert Humphrey
Speaker 1: was he on the ballot in any of the primary states.
Speaker 1: Hubert Humphrey was on two ballots. Okay, I take that back.
Speaker 1: He was on zero. He was on zero ballots. He
Speaker 1: was written in or put on a ballot, and that
Speaker 1: got about two percent of the vote in nineteen sixty eight,
Speaker 1: so a little bit more than Kamala Harris got in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, a little more two percent of the Democratic
Speaker 1: But again, the think back Garry Jeff, is that most
Speaker 1: of the states did not have primaries at the time.
Speaker 1: It was really was controlled by both Republicans and Democrats,
Speaker 1: by party insiders who when you got to the state convention,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of twisting of arms of who
Speaker 1: you were going to be for. Yeah, okay, well, I
Speaker 1: mean the Democrats this time followed suit because they didn't.
Speaker 1: They didn't. They twisted everybody's arm and said, Hey, it's
Speaker 1: Kamala even though nobody voted for I am you want
Speaker 1: to talk about a man Cherian candidate or a Trojan
Speaker 1: horse candidate. She definitely looks like to me, and especially
Speaker 1: since she is not until this past Thursday when she
Speaker 1: did the recorded CNN interview Bring Your Daddy to Workday
Speaker 1: with Tim Waltzer candidate uh and you know it just
Speaker 1: to me, it just sounds like there is just you
Speaker 1: talk about a ground swell of enthusiasm for Kamala and
Speaker 1: maybe in her base, the Democrats, but I don't see
Speaker 1: it in the country overall. Here's where you and I
Speaker 1: are going to disagree. We rarely disagree on things. Here's
Speaker 1: where I'm going to go. I'm gonna put I'm gonna
Speaker 1: draw the line, the Gary Jeff Walker line right here
Speaker 1: all right. Here's where I think there's there's a difference.
Speaker 1: Is that for so long the American public has been
Speaker 1: dealing with the Trump Biden barbs back and forth, all
Speaker 1: the questioning of what it's going to be, everything else
Speaker 1: that is happening. When Harris, who I think actually grabbed
Speaker 1: the nomination masterfully because I don't think she would have
Speaker 1: been the play and one that people would have gone to,
Speaker 1: but that she masterfully got all the delegates lined up
Speaker 1: with party leadership very quickly. But Rick, she couldn't sleep
Speaker 1: with all of them. And let me make sure I
Speaker 1: give you the phone number of Gary Jeff Walker so
Speaker 1: that you could make your comments to him about those Boh,
Speaker 1: they've got my number. But I think what everybody has
Speaker 1: your number, Garry Jeff. But I think what has happened
Speaker 1: is that the groundswell of support. I think it is real,
Speaker 1: and I think it's coming from She's none of the above.
Speaker 1: How long have we been dealing with just the negativity
Speaker 1: in this campaign? And somebody to be able to say, Okay,
Speaker 1: they're not named Obama, Clinton, Bush, Trump, Oh there's somebody
Speaker 1: new none of the above. I think that's a large
Speaker 1: part of what's happening right now in the building. We'll
Speaker 1: see how it holds up. More with Rick Robinson, the
Speaker 1: author of nineteen sixty eight, as we continue, Scary Jeff
Speaker 1: with you on Labor Day fifty five KRC dot com Morning,
Speaker 1: beautiful day, enjoy it all or high this afternoon up
Speaker 1: to seventy nine, and that's it. It is sixty two
Speaker 1: at fifty five KRC, the talk station. The music professor
Speaker 1: Jim Lebarbara said this was the song that the record
Speaker 1: company of the Rascals did not want to be released
Speaker 1: as a single. It was too controversial. In nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 1: It was the number one record this week in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty eight. And Rick Robinson knows that because he wrote
Speaker 1: the book nineteen sixty eight, and I think he probably
Speaker 1: lived nineteen. Yeah, I was around in sixty eight. Around
Speaker 1: I was singing people Gotta be Free. So there you go,
Speaker 1: there you go. You know, well, you know what else
Speaker 1: came out that that month. I mean, if you take
Speaker 1: a look at that, you had a Harper Valley Pta,
Speaker 1: which becomes again with kind of a huge song, but
Speaker 1: also at the end of the month the song that
Speaker 1: defined nineteen sixty eight for me anyway. In September of
Speaker 1: sixty eight, the Beatles came out with Hey Jude. Stayed
Speaker 1: on the charts longer than any single, and it was
Speaker 1: the longest single to ever be number one. They released
Speaker 1: that in its full running length right as a single.
Speaker 1: It's like seven eight minutes long, isn't it. I mean,
Speaker 1: unheard of at the time that you would release a
Speaker 1: single that that long. Of course, the last three minutes
Speaker 1: are dom no no, no, no, no, no, no, no
Speaker 1: it It's hard to come up with those words. Hey, Jude,
Speaker 1: you know you're right. It was a great time. I
Speaker 1: thought it was. Sixties were a great time for music
Speaker 1: as well. Six sixty eight I think was the year
Speaker 1: to me that had its own soundtrack. Yeah, because if
Speaker 1: you look at everything that was going on, the turmoil
Speaker 1: and everything that's happening, you have the music scenes starting
Speaker 1: to change, and you have the garage bands becoming nationalized.
Speaker 1: They they're you know, I was looking the other day
Speaker 1: and you know, Bootsy was playing with his original band
Speaker 1: up in up in Clifton at the time, and I
Speaker 1: want to say, was the Pacemakers. They can't remember the
Speaker 1: name of the band, but you know he was just
Speaker 1: out doing that. And all these people that we end
Speaker 1: up coming to follow for so many years, like you
Speaker 1: and I hear music fans that we are see you know,
Speaker 1: that's that started moving up and becoming nationalize. To me,
Speaker 1: this is a distinct difference. And I know I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not a guy who listens to a lot of
Speaker 1: music that is popular now, a lot of hit music,
Speaker 1: But I see very Little Corela between twenty twenty four
Speaker 1: and nineteen sixty eight. Music Wise, I would concur on
Speaker 1: that I think that the music was driven at the
Speaker 1: time by, you know, a belief on people like people
Speaker 1: everywhere got to be free, that they could chose that
Speaker 1: music was somehow going to change the world, and they
Speaker 1: believe that. I did an interview with the gentleman who
Speaker 1: wrote Eve of Destruction and performed it, and I mean
Speaker 1: that the way music, you know, will get to the radio.
Speaker 1: Then he went in he played the song for Lou Adler. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're talking about Barry McGwire, Barry maguire, formerly with the
Speaker 1: New Christian Minstrels, and gave a couple of songs to
Speaker 1: the friends of the papas the whole bit. He goes in,
Speaker 1: he plays this song for Lou Adler. Adler hands the
Speaker 1: recording on. It's recorded on a sheet of paper that
Speaker 1: he had in his pocket, and it was him and
Speaker 1: a guitar, nothing else. Adler says, come back in and
Speaker 1: Monday and we'll record this. He's driving down the street
Speaker 1: on Saturday and he hears it Adler have recorded it,
Speaker 1: and he's like, I couldn't wait till Monday. He added
Speaker 1: a couple of drums and booms. Send it on the radio,
Speaker 1: and you know, here's his song being played on you know,
Speaker 1: played it on a Friday for the King of Music,
Speaker 1: and on Saturday it's on the radio. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: know what, it wouldn't surprise me to see the Jordan
Speaker 1: River with bodies floating, considering the state of today's situation
Speaker 1: in the Middle East. But anyway, go ahead. Well, and
Speaker 1: that was kind of the comment that I that I
Speaker 1: have for Barry when I did this, is that you
Speaker 1: know this, you recorded this song the even Destruction, it's
Speaker 1: now fifty years old. Were you're wrong? And it was
Speaker 1: comment was actually brilliant. Gary Jeff is what he's saying.
Speaker 1: He came back and he said, I wasn't wrong. Here
Speaker 1: we are fifty years later, and people still are on
Speaker 1: the verge of their eve of destruction. If you look
Speaker 1: at what's going on overseas, if you look at what's
Speaker 1: going on in South America, you know, look at the
Speaker 1: different places where things are happening, and aren't they still
Speaker 1: on their eve of destruction? And I thought that was
Speaker 1: actually a pretty good point. Well, we had a warmonger
Speaker 1: as President Lyndon Baines Johnson in nineteen sixty eight. He
Speaker 1: was on his way out obviously, right.
Speaker 4: And we have.
Speaker 1: A current administration with Kamala Harris as a part of
Speaker 1: that very much has been you could say pro war
Speaker 1: with their continuing to arm Ukraine. Now Ukraine's invading Russia.
Speaker 1: Now was that really the mission? And we have Amass
Speaker 1: attacking Israel in the worst terror attack that that country
Speaker 1: ever saw. I mean, you're talking about the Yamkap war
Speaker 1: and all of that. There was nothing like the Hamas
Speaker 1: attack a year ago on October seventh. They're almost a
Speaker 1: year ago. And that part and parcel depends on the
Speaker 1: United States and their positions and their weakness or their
Speaker 1: willingness to feed the war machine. They're still doing it.
Speaker 1: They're still feeding the war machine in Washington. Be the
Speaker 1: Republican or Democrat. See now you could be a folk
Speaker 1: singer with that kind of language going in, going into
Speaker 1: we need to get that down into a song, into
Speaker 1: a track, because that was the whole folk movement right there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right, and I think it goes back
Speaker 1: to again, will it be Harris's Vietnam? Will that issue
Speaker 1: become Vietnam? For the Vice President Harris Well, for the
Speaker 1: country's sake, I hope so, I certainly hope. So we
Speaker 1: shall see. Yeah, yes, we shall. We need to do
Speaker 1: a show the day after the election so we can
Speaker 1: sit here and uh well, I mean and figure out
Speaker 1: what what what went right and what went wrong. It's
Speaker 1: a Tuesday night. It's a Tuesday night. November fifth is
Speaker 1: a Tuesday night. I generally am here on a Tuesday
Speaker 1: night with election results. I did it. I did it
Speaker 1: two years ago, I did it four years ago. I'll
Speaker 1: extend the invitation now if you would like to join
Speaker 1: me on election night, I would love to. That would
Speaker 1: be a wonderful And watch prop your eyes open. I'll
Speaker 1: watch watch the results come in a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago I did for a local TV station when I
Speaker 1: was up in DC and the next day had to
Speaker 1: be in Wisconsin giving a giving a seminar. And that
Speaker 1: was one of those nights where it went all night.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just remember showing up for the eleven
Speaker 1: o'clock session that I was doing, flying to Wisconsin and literally,
Speaker 1: you're right, having to can somebody get me two red bulls? Oh?
Speaker 1: I doubted to be decided by the time I get
Speaker 1: off that night at midnight because the Democrats will be
Speaker 1: scrambling to find enough votes that they can win again. Anyway,
Speaker 1: it's great to have you with us. Always a pleasure
Speaker 1: to be here. Gary Jeff book is nineteen sixty eight,
Speaker 1: still in print, still out there.
Speaker 4: Still in print.
Speaker 1: You can pick up a copy on Amazon, you can
Speaker 1: go to Headline books dot com, or you can go
Speaker 1: to your bookstore and say give me one fantastic. It's
Speaker 1: Gary Jeff on Labor Day.
Speaker 9: This is fifty five KRC and iHeartRadio Station.
Speaker 1: No, you couldn't have a Labor Day show without having
Speaker 1: labor be one of your topics you covered. It just
Speaker 1: makes sense. So I contacted the National Right to Work
Speaker 1: Committee and the National Right to Work Legal Foundation Defense Foundation,
Speaker 1: and we got Patrick Simmons, the VP, the vice president
Speaker 1: of that organization to talk to us about what liizahead
Speaker 1: for the American worker. Because we've heard Kamala Harris and
Speaker 1: now her vice presidential candidate Tim Walls talk about protecting
Speaker 1: jobs and middle class jobs and how the unions are
Speaker 1: the only way to do this. Kamala Harris has repeatedly
Speaker 1: called for eliminating right to work laws nationwide and forcing
Speaker 1: workers across the country to pay union dues just to
Speaker 1: stay employed. When she was a California Attorney General, she
Speaker 1: admitted an illegal brief that union bosses have substantial power
Speaker 1: to harm workers interests. But of course, Kamala has been
Speaker 1: recently known to flip flop on a lot of stated
Speaker 1: convictions that she apparently had in the past. We don't
Speaker 1: know who the real Kamala Harris is. That's another question entirely,
Speaker 1: and actually it is the question at hand here for
Speaker 1: Patrick Simmons. How are you doing, Patrick, I'm doing well.
Speaker 1: Good to be with you. Do you think that there's
Speaker 1: any chance in hell well that Kamala Harris is going
Speaker 1: to reverse her position on right to work laws around
Speaker 1: the country.
Speaker 3: No, you know, obviously there's been a lot of policy
Speaker 3: areas where she seems to kind of be floating with
Speaker 3: the wind and maybe trying to obsuscate some of her
Speaker 3: past views. But she has been very consistent in advocating
Speaker 3: that every worker in America should be forced to pay
Speaker 3: money to a union boss as a condition of getting
Speaker 3: or keeping a job. She's called the elimination of right
Speaker 3: to work clause, as you noted, and she's actually even
Speaker 3: gone further She suggested that entire sectors should be unionized
Speaker 3: in a process that wouldn't be about what workers wanted,
Speaker 3: but be about empowering union bosses just to a massive
Speaker 3: exponential degree.
Speaker 1: Well, it seems that philosophy seems right in step with
Speaker 1: Kamala's and the Democrats want to take control over all
Speaker 1: of our lives in the collective. You know, it's so communist.
Speaker 1: It is just so socialist slash communist. That leads, of
Speaker 1: course to Marxism and Mayhem when you have these collective
Speaker 1: kind of views about everything that we're all in this
Speaker 1: together thing. I hate that because it kind of violates
Speaker 1: the spirit of a constitution that protects the individual's rights
Speaker 1: and not a group. And we've seen a lot of
Speaker 1: that in this country.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, and that's very much the view. It's
Speaker 3: a top down view. It's an idea that union bosses
Speaker 3: know better than workers what their interests are. And you
Speaker 3: reference it in the intro. You know, there was a
Speaker 3: Supreme Court case out of California, a bunch of public
Speaker 3: school teachers there or saying that, hey, the First Amendment
Speaker 3: should mean that we should not be required to fund
Speaker 3: union officials who all they do is they take our
Speaker 3: money and they spend it on their own agenda, an
Speaker 3: agenda that they often disagree with. And in that case,
Speaker 3: Kyla Harris, in her brief as Attorney General for the
Speaker 3: State of California, admitted that union officials have wide lead
Speaker 3: way to take all sorts of positions that are harmful
Speaker 3: for many of those workers who she would want and
Speaker 3: she advocates for and at the time were forced. But
Speaker 3: of course, since the Supreme Court ruled in the subsequent
Speaker 3: case argued actually by the National Right to Work Foundation
Speaker 3: that the first menment means they cannot be forced to pay.
Speaker 3: But she said quite clearly she thinks they should be
Speaker 3: forced to pay. And the fact that they're harmed by
Speaker 3: the very union so called representation, that doesn't matter. That
Speaker 3: they should still be required to pay up or be fired.
Speaker 1: You guys at the National Right to Work Committee and
Speaker 1: the Legal Defense Foundation have fought tooth and nail, and
Speaker 1: one of the things you fought so hard for is
Speaker 1: to help these states out with their right to work laws.
Speaker 1: There are twenty six states that have right to work laws.
Speaker 1: The Harris backed pro Act Big Labor Bill that their
Speaker 1: aim is to wipe out by federal fiat, not even
Speaker 1: by any act of Congress or vote of Congress, just
Speaker 1: by saying, you know what, we're in charge. Screw you.
Speaker 1: You don't have the right to work, no matter what
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court says.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The pro Act is the top legislative priority of
Speaker 3: every major union in the country. And Kamala Harris was
Speaker 3: a co sponsor of it when she was in the Senate.
Speaker 3: She's been a vocal advocate for it ever since. President Biden,
Speaker 3: when to the extent he knows what's still going on,
Speaker 3: he's been fully on board for it as well. And
Speaker 3: if they get the votes to you know, and even
Speaker 3: if it means eliminating the filibuster, you can fully expect
Speaker 3: that they're going to push this. And to your point,
Speaker 3: they're also looking for ways to do this type of
Speaker 3: thing without going through Congress, because you know, we know
Speaker 3: voluntary unionism and right to work is pop Popular polls
Speaker 3: consistently show seventy five eighty percent of Americans support right
Speaker 3: to work, which doesn't stop anyone from joining a union
Speaker 3: if they want, doesn't stop anyone from paying dues if
Speaker 3: they want, but it means it cannot be required and
Speaker 3: you cannot be forced to pay under threat of termination.
Speaker 3: So voluntary unionism is popular. Forced union is unpopular. But
Speaker 3: a Harris presidency is not about what's best for rank
Speaker 3: and file workers. It's about her allies in the headquarters
Speaker 3: that you'll see around washing DC if you ever go there,
Speaker 3: the big marble buildings where the union bosses work as
Speaker 3: they purport to advocate for the rank and file, but
Speaker 3: actually advocate against their freedoms and their choices.
Speaker 1: Michigan, one of the so called electoral battleground states, the
Speaker 1: swing state could decide the election abandon right to work
Speaker 1: this year. And what's been the result, Well, it's it's
Speaker 1: been bad news.
Speaker 3: I mean, and at the National Right to Work Foundation
Speaker 3: we of course end upearing about it firsthand from workers.
Speaker 3: We've had a major uptick in cases from Michigan workers
Speaker 3: because you know, Michigan was a right to work state
Speaker 3: for a decade. It saw excellent economic growth.
Speaker 10: Over that period of time.
Speaker 3: But you know, it also meant workers could hold unions accountable.
Speaker 3: So if they like what the union is doing, they
Speaker 3: could pay. If they didn't like what they're doing, they
Speaker 3: weren't forced to. Now all of a sudden, with right
Speaker 3: to work repeal, taking effect earlier this year. Suddenly we've
Speaker 3: got all these workers who are being threatened, many of
Speaker 3: them are being threatened even beyond what is legal. We
Speaker 3: had a case recently for a woman. She was told, hey,
Speaker 3: you got to sign a union dues deduction card or
Speaker 3: else we're going to have you fired. She filed a
Speaker 3: charge with the National Liberlations Board because that's a blatant
Speaker 3: violation of long standing law. And not only did they
Speaker 3: not back down the next month, they just began taking
Speaker 3: the money anyway, even though she didn't sign the card
Speaker 3: to begin with. And these are the cases we're seeing
Speaker 3: all across Michigan because workers are feeling the front of
Speaker 3: this and they're suddenly finding that instead of the choice
Speaker 3: that they had and they enjoyed for ten years, suddenly
Speaker 3: it's pay up or be fired. And it doesn't matter
Speaker 3: that you know, you don't like what the union is doing.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter that the union may be taking political
Speaker 3: positions that you disagree with. That's something we frequently hear
Speaker 3: from workers all across the country, but including in Michigan.
Speaker 3: They don't like the political positions and the candidates often
Speaker 3: that union officials back, and they of course want to
Speaker 3: back them with workers money and workers money that is
Speaker 3: frequently paid under threat of termination.
Speaker 1: Patrick Simmons, National Right to Work Foundation, we will discuss
Speaker 1: a little bit further here in just a moment after
Speaker 1: a break. It's Gary jeffun Labor Day, fifty five KRC
Speaker 1: the talk station fifty three for a load temperature seventy
Speaker 1: nine is safternon in sixty one now at fifty five
Speaker 1: KRSUD not eing with Patrick Simmons, the vice president of
Speaker 1: the National Right to Work Foundation, And it's Labor Day.
Speaker 1: How's that? Jerry Jeff on Labor Day? And Patrick, we're back.
Speaker 1: Anti Israel union bosses on college campuses have been forcing
Speaker 1: Jewish students to fund their activities. How are they doing that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, this is the product of the kind of
Speaker 3: the intersection of a couple different aspects of outrageous coercive
Speaker 3: force unionism. So it actually goes back to an Obama
Speaker 3: era ruling that said graduate students could be forcibly unionized,
Speaker 3: and then of course in states without right to work laws,
Speaker 3: that means they can be forced to pay dues or
Speaker 3: be fired. And so you know, this is happening all
Speaker 3: across the country. We had a group of MIT grad
Speaker 3: students come to us, and they were furious that their union,
Speaker 3: supposedly their union, was spending all this time talking about
Speaker 3: Israel and uh and these were Jewish students and yet
Speaker 3: the union, there, an old line communist union, was making
Speaker 3: all sorts of radical you know, comments about partheid, apartheid,
Speaker 3: Israel and basically you know, and they found this deeply
Speaker 3: offensive on religious grounds and and also just you know,
Speaker 3: that they're being forced to associate with this and this
Speaker 3: union was taking their money and spending it on these
Speaker 3: types of things. So we had a long running case
Speaker 3: that just concluded and they were able to get out.
Speaker 3: They used the Civil Rights Acts religious liberty protections to
Speaker 3: to make sure that their money wasn't going to that union.
Speaker 3: But you know, it's a really complicated process, and it's
Speaker 3: one that they shouldn't have to go through at all.
Speaker 3: And of course, if you know, if it was a
Speaker 3: right to work situation, they wouldn't have to to fund
Speaker 3: these activities. But it's a big problem. And even when
Speaker 3: they're not forced to fund the union, they're still stuck
Speaker 3: under the representation of unions that take these types of positions.
Speaker 3: We've got a case currently pending at the US Supreme
Speaker 3: Court right now for a group of City University of
Speaker 3: New York professors. They're Jewish as well. The union there
Speaker 3: again takes all sorts of anti Israel positions, some of
Speaker 3: them are from Israel, and they just they find this
Speaker 3: deeply offensive that they're forced to associate with its union,
Speaker 3: and the State of New York says, these are your
Speaker 3: appointed representatives. They represent you to us, the government. And
Speaker 3: so they've got a case pending at the Supreme Court.
Speaker 3: It's received about a dozen a meekas briefs just in
Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks asking or backing their petition
Speaker 3: asking the Supreme Court to hear the case. And their
Speaker 3: point of view, and the argument they make is that, look,
Speaker 3: the First Amendment means we can't be forced to fund
Speaker 3: these unions. And that's what the Supreme Court argued or
Speaker 3: decided back in twenty eighteen in the Janis decision, which
Speaker 3: is we kind of reference that last segment. But now
Speaker 3: they're saying, also the first amount of protect freedom association.
Speaker 3: And so the idea of having a forced representation representative
Speaker 3: on you is wrong. I mean, we you know in
Speaker 3: this country, uh a, you know, a guilty criminal gets
Speaker 3: to pick their own representative. But but you know, in
Speaker 3: order to be a professor at a public university, the
Speaker 3: state of New York has to appoint a representative to you,
Speaker 3: and one that takes all sorts of offensive positions. So
Speaker 3: we're hoping that could be a breakthrough. We'll probably learn
Speaker 3: the next few months if the Supreme Court is going
Speaker 3: to take that case. I mean, if they do, they
Speaker 3: they could hold arguments next year sometime the.
Speaker 1: National Labor Relation Board and they're a Smek's decision if
Speaker 1: I'm pronouncing that right. He gave union bosses the power
Speaker 1: to bypas bypass traditional union elections. So in other words,
Speaker 1: you're you're forced to pay a union to represent you
Speaker 1: when you don't want to, and then you don't have
Speaker 1: any voice in who is leading the union. That's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is crazy. And you know some of us
Speaker 3: remember back in twenty ten during the Obama years. At
Speaker 3: that time, they wanted to do this, but they knew
Speaker 3: it would take a bill in Congress. They had the
Speaker 3: card Check Bill. Back then. It was very controversial, it
Speaker 3: was very unpopular, and ultimately went down because there was
Speaker 3: actually bipartisan opposition to it. But now the Biden Harris
Speaker 3: National Relations Board is basically implementing card check and they're
Speaker 3: doing so just through administrative procedures. And that's what the
Speaker 3: SEMEX decision does. It says that in the past, unions
Speaker 3: could collect cards, and we know that these are often
Speaker 3: collected under false pretenses. Workers are lied to about what
Speaker 3: the cards mean. We've had people being threatened. There was
Speaker 3: one case where someone said, you know, the union's going
Speaker 3: to come after your children if you don't assign the card.
Speaker 3: What all sorts of coor they show up at your
Speaker 3: house two three at a time, sometimes late at night.
Speaker 3: We've assisted workers who have had to call the police
Speaker 3: just to get union organized off their property. But these
Speaker 3: cards then get used instead of a secret ballot vote
Speaker 3: to impose the union on every single worker, even those
Speaker 3: who didn't sign would never sign, oppose it, those who
Speaker 3: signed under false pretenses. And so that's what's going on now.
Speaker 3: And instead of the traditional system, which was the union
Speaker 3: could collect the card, they'd go to the employer, but
Speaker 3: the employer said, well, you know, let's hold a secret
Speaker 3: ballot vote just because someone says they'll you know, signs
Speaker 3: the card. When there's a few big burly union guys
Speaker 3: at their door doesn't mean that they're going to actually
Speaker 3: vote for that union when there's a secret ballot vote
Speaker 3: and their vote is private. But this NLRB has dispensed
Speaker 3: with over sixty or seventy years of president to mandate
Speaker 3: that card checks be accepted.
Speaker 1: Now, and that same Labor Relations Board under Bid and Harris,
Speaker 1: and we probably just should say Harris just nixt the
Speaker 1: Trump era election protection rule where union bosses can manipulate
Speaker 1: unverified allegations to stop workers from voting out the unions
Speaker 1: and for bid workers from asking for secret ballot elections
Speaker 1: to challenge unionization by card check. That's another component of this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just in case you had any you know, qualms,
Speaker 3: we're worried at all or unsure at all about what
Speaker 3: their goal is. I mean, this really kind of kind
Speaker 3: of lays it out. So on one hand, card checks
Speaker 3: to get in, but if you want a secret bowot
Speaker 3: election to vote out a union and incumbent union, suddenly
Speaker 3: they're making that extraordinarily difficult. And they're giving unions wide
Speaker 3: wide ability to kind of manipulate the system and block
Speaker 3: these volks. And we've seen these votes bucks for months
Speaker 3: and years at a time, we've had instances where the
Speaker 3: votes were all cast and then they ended up getting
Speaker 3: thrown out, never counted, and that's what's going on here.
Speaker 3: So in the past, when there was a card check situation,
Speaker 3: if enough workers got together, they could sign cards and
Speaker 3: force a secret bowot vote by overturning the election protection rule,
Speaker 3: which they did just last month, and that'll go into
Speaker 3: effect at the end of September. Here this is now
Speaker 3: no longer an option, and so you can get card
Speaker 3: checked into a union, you have no ability to challenge
Speaker 3: it with a secret ballot vote, and then once that
Speaker 3: union's in, you could be stuck for years paying dues
Speaker 3: to a union that a majority in some instances might
Speaker 3: sign a petition saying we don't want but that doesn't
Speaker 3: matter to the Biden Harrison l RB on Labor Day.
Speaker 1: That is Patrick Simmons from the National Right to Work Foundation.
Speaker 1: It's amazing, all right, Coming up, we will have Michael
Speaker 1: Letts from invest USA talking about law enforcement on Labor Day.
Speaker 1: This Labor Day special continues with our next guest. Of
Speaker 1: course he does. He is the president, founder and CEO
Speaker 1: of invest USSAY a thirty year law enforcement career, and
Speaker 1: she is I've had him on numerous times because he's
Speaker 1: great guest and has wonderful content. That's what we're looking
Speaker 1: for all the time. Here, Gary Jeff on Labor Day
Speaker 1: with the one and only Michael Letts from invest USA,
Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about the border, since there
Speaker 1: seems to be some kind of wobbling on the part
Speaker 1: of Kamala Harris when it comes to continuing Joe Biden's
Speaker 1: illegal border invasion that that administration and she's a part
Speaker 1: of that. I thought she was the border tzar, but
Speaker 1: apparently she's changed some of her positions or making people
Speaker 1: believe she's changed some of her positions because she realizes
Speaker 1: it's the only way that people will even listen to
Speaker 1: her getting away from saying Stuary Cities and all of
Speaker 1: the rest the Keeping Families Together program, which we will
Speaker 1: talk about. Excuse me and uh and how do we
Speaker 1: how do we go moving forward here if we want
Speaker 1: to have an actual border in this country, which we
Speaker 1: do not right now. Michael lets how are you? I'm
Speaker 1: doing great?
Speaker 4: Always your privilege to be on your show. It's great
Speaker 4: to be with the host that wants to make sure
Speaker 4: has Allie's just the truth for lacking that nowadays, and
Speaker 4: thank God that you're all here.
Speaker 1: So first and foremost the Keeping Families Together program, Joe
Speaker 1: Biden's amnesty program, give me your just thoughts on that,
Speaker 1: and hopefully Kamala Harris does not continue this because it
Speaker 1: could lead to an even greater incursion. So Michael, lets
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the Keeping Families Together program. It sounds
Speaker 1: so American. It sounds like the compassionate human thing to do.
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, and they're having to laugh so much
Speaker 4: because you're right. I mean, it's the sounds like a
Speaker 4: slick slogan to me, and it is. When you take
Speaker 4: a look at these specifics of the program, people are asking,
Speaker 4: what is what are we talking about? What is the program? Well,
Speaker 4: let's quickly let your listeners know how this works. Do
Speaker 4: you have two ways, ultimately legal by the way of
Speaker 4: getting any of this country. You either walk across the
Speaker 4: borders and you don't get caught, and so you just
Speaker 4: get to go to anywhere you want to go and uh,
Speaker 4: you know you're here. That's it. We don't bother to
Speaker 4: force anything. Or you come across and you happen to
Speaker 4: get detained. I don't fear if that's the case you
Speaker 4: got detained. What happens is we take you to a
Speaker 4: processing station. Now remember under the old administration, under the
Speaker 4: Trump administration, we would take you there, ship you back
Speaker 4: across the river. You had to either wait in Mexico
Speaker 4: or wherever you need to go before you're if you
Speaker 4: wanted to apply for asylum before your case was purred.
Speaker 4: Now under the new administration, no, no, no, no, we
Speaker 4: just give you a little pink slip that says, hey,
Speaker 4: you need to report to a court at some particular
Speaker 4: point in time for a court date to have your
Speaker 4: case heard about asylum. Now that takes about six to
Speaker 4: eight years, maybe even ten years in some ensis to
Speaker 4: get that court hearing. But once you have that game, hey,
Speaker 4: we as the taxpayers will pay for anywhere for you
Speaker 4: to go. We'll make sure, you say, at a hotel,
Speaker 4: five star hotel by the way, we go to Day's
Speaker 4: halfway in this country. Make sure you have two and
Speaker 4: fifteen thousand dollars per month incidental credit cards for any
Speaker 4: needs you may have. We're going to welcome you with
Speaker 4: open arms. Now that having been said, what is this
Speaker 4: new program, Well, Biden not has in mind. You know what,
Speaker 4: there's a question about where these people can vote, because
Speaker 4: by the Constitution they can't. You have to be an
Speaker 4: American citizen. Are all up said about illegals voting. So
Speaker 4: here's what I'm gonna do. I'm going to everybody that's
Speaker 4: been given a probation in this country to have a
Speaker 4: hearing for political asylums. We're gonna pardon them. We're gonna
Speaker 4: give them a parole. So in other words, they no
Speaker 4: longer have to report in to determine their asylum. They're
Speaker 4: going to be granted citizenship at some point in time
Speaker 4: once they complete the requirements for citizenship. Now the only
Speaker 4: what they get you too decided there are no requirements
Speaker 4: of citations when you go in that way. So basically,
Speaker 4: here's what they're trying to do. They're trying to all
Speaker 4: these millions that we know about.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 4: Remember there are tens of millions that have come across
Speaker 4: that are illegal, that just got to what we call
Speaker 4: godaways that we have no idea where they're at, right,
Speaker 4: but those that we issued the little parole ticket, which
Speaker 4: is pardon them all. So now they don't have to
Speaker 4: come in for hearing anymore. They will be And they
Speaker 4: haven't figured out the logistics this year. What does that mean?
Speaker 4: Does that mean that they now go to the State
Speaker 4: Department you get a green card? Does it mean that
Speaker 4: they now can declare that they're American citizens before swearing in,
Speaker 4: Sir line, They haven't worked out those minor details yet.
Speaker 4: But what they are trying to send the messages is
Speaker 4: that don't feel bad about going to vote because you
Speaker 4: are no longer in violation of any laws in this country.
Speaker 4: Haven't come an illegally, You've been paroled.
Speaker 1: The first thing you did was break the law by
Speaker 1: coming into the country illegally. And and he's he's eradicating
Speaker 1: that whole philosophy, that whole principle. So that's a violation
Speaker 1: of our laws, which is a violation of our constitution.
Speaker 1: What why did he do Why did he do this?
Speaker 1: Did he in stated to help with Kamala's campaign or
Speaker 1: or the Democrat base.
Speaker 4: Hit the nail on the head, all right? You see
Speaker 4: they understand and the American people are saying, you know what,
Speaker 4: we're getting screwed. This is bad enough of enough, You're added,
Speaker 4: you're insulting us by bringing them in illegally. Then you're
Speaker 4: taking my task. Dolls that are supposed to be supporting
Speaker 4: the infrastructure, our veterans, et cetera, et cetera, and you're
Speaker 4: taking it and give it to them when they're illegal
Speaker 4: here to begin with. They're beginning to revolt against that.
Speaker 4: They don't like that.
Speaker 6: So in order to.
Speaker 4: Tone down the negative reaction that her campaign is all getting,
Speaker 4: she has slipped her position in the last twenty hours.
Speaker 4: You know, we might need to put a wall up
Speaker 4: after all, trying to give you the impression. Oh, I
Speaker 4: do think that this illegal thing is serious. While the
Speaker 4: other hand is making sure that all those that are
Speaker 4: in here feel very comfortable about doing. Their whole purpose
Speaker 4: in bringdom here is so that they can have election
Speaker 4: fraud and change the balance of the outcome of the elections,
Speaker 4: to make sure they say in power. That's what it's
Speaker 4: all about.
Speaker 1: Oh, certainly, if we go back to the Keeping Families
Speaker 1: Together initiative of the Biden administration, it sounds a whole lot.
Speaker 1: It's like you said, it's a neat little title, you know,
Speaker 1: that seems to be compassionate. It's kind of like passing
Speaker 1: the Inflation Reduction Act, which only made the inflation worse.
Speaker 1: It did exactly the opposite of the name of the bill.
Speaker 4: You're exactly what I'm laughing at is, Yes, they wanted
Speaker 4: that to be patured. Here's how you make it accurate.
Speaker 4: So this program doesn't apply to you unless you already
Speaker 4: have legal relatives here, because you want to keep the
Speaker 4: family together. We don't want to see you right break
Speaker 4: up your family. But no, none of that's in it.
Speaker 4: You don't even have to have any family members here.
Speaker 4: But we're still trying to keep your family Jack, even
Speaker 4: though none of them are here, because we think that
Speaker 4: title will cause Americans to feel a string of compassion
Speaker 4: and be more sympathetic to that they're trying to propose,
Speaker 4: which ultimately is the destruction of this country.
Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't a program like this? Shouldn't this under the
Speaker 1: purview of Congress? I mean the people Congress and the
Speaker 1: Democrats complained NonStop about I'm illegal subversion of subverting around
Speaker 1: Congress to build the wall and to institute the executive
Speaker 1: orders that he did as president. But they really don't
Speaker 1: care if Congress is involved, if they're the ones in power.
Speaker 1: It's not dichotomy.
Speaker 4: You hit the nail on the head. You hit the
Speaker 4: nail on the head. The problem with what you just said,
Speaker 4: the truth not a problem. The truth to what you
Speaker 4: just said, he is, whether you're a Democrat Republican is
Speaker 4: irrelevant by law, by our constitution. The only one who
Speaker 4: can make determination about the legality of the citizenship of
Speaker 4: people coming into this country in Congress.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think executive.
Speaker 4: Brands can't decide. Okay, we've do decided that all people
Speaker 4: from this country don't have to give any paper, You're
Speaker 4: just automatically granted citizenship of the United States of America.
Speaker 4: Can't do that, only Congress can't. But isn't it interesting
Speaker 4: how this administration has never cared about what the law
Speaker 4: or what the costs. Their position is, We're going to
Speaker 4: do whatever it is we want to do. You don't
Speaker 4: like it, okay, sue us. And then about four or
Speaker 4: five years later, once't proud to get through the course
Speaker 4: system if we made it a say oops, sorry, we'll
Speaker 4: change it. But by then they've already done their devil.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Michael Leeds is our guest. It's Gary Jeff
Speaker 1: on Labor.
Speaker 9: Day fifty five KRC.
Speaker 1: Next month, it's Gerry Jeff on Labor Day. As we
Speaker 1: continue our special programming for this special American holiday. And
Speaker 1: we're talking to Michael Leeds, the president, founder and CEO
Speaker 1: of INVEST USA. Before we go any farther with the
Speaker 1: immigration thing, Michael, let's just talk about your organization and
Speaker 1: what it does real quick.
Speaker 4: Well, thank Garry, I appreciate the invest MAK sure that
Speaker 4: every officer has a necessary protection to come home safe
Speaker 4: to their families. We've had to change technology over the years.
Speaker 4: We had concealable vests.
Speaker 1: That's the best you.
Speaker 4: See underneath their shirt. But unfortunately the only stop aside
Speaker 4: are with this new administration and the opening of borders
Speaker 4: and drug cartels, terrorists, human sex traffickers, criminals from other
Speaker 4: countries pouring across our border. They are targeting our law
Speaker 4: enforcementlers and they're using long range rivals assault rivals to
Speaker 4: do so. They will not be stopped by conceal a
Speaker 4: little this, so I'll cut right through it. So we
Speaker 4: had to develop new technology called active shooter vesk have
Speaker 4: titanium plates in them that will stop any around. But
Speaker 4: un fourteen ninety percent of cops don't have them. The
Speaker 4: criminal element knows that, and they're picking our guys and
Speaker 4: gals off lifting right, Please make sure that they're able
Speaker 4: to go home with their families and protect us on
Speaker 4: the next day to come.
Speaker 1: So the old school kevlar bulletproof vests are not up
Speaker 1: to the standards they should be to protect law enforcement,
Speaker 1: is what you're basically saying.
Speaker 4: You know, you are correct. And the old days criminal
Speaker 4: use a pistol. Nowadays they use an AK forty seven.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And I don't think the answer is to
Speaker 1: outlaw the guns. We just need to make sure the
Speaker 1: people who are there to uphold the law and keep
Speaker 1: us safe have some protection themselves. So we talked about
Speaker 1: the problems with the Biden Harris border crisis. And you know,
Speaker 1: she can run away from it all she wants to, Michael,
Speaker 1: but this is she is definitely a part of this.
Speaker 1: She was named quote the borders are and then they
Speaker 1: denied that she was ever in charge of the border.
Speaker 1: Was do it When it's on tape. We can all
Speaker 1: see it. We can all see the president saying I'm
Speaker 1: going to put Kamala Harris in charge of this, and
Speaker 1: then she claims I was just going to see the
Speaker 1: root causes. Well, one of the root causes is your
Speaker 1: illegal intrusion into our country, your disobeying laws that are
Speaker 1: already on the books. That's a root cause of our
Speaker 1: immigration crisis, not what's going on in the Triangle countries.
Speaker 1: But so, what kind of solution would Michael let suggest
Speaker 1: when it comes to resolving the Biden Harris border crisis.
Speaker 4: Well, it's very simple. Expand first of all, on what
Speaker 4: you said. Harris's position was she was able to get
Speaker 4: Biden to secure three point nine billion, not million billion
Speaker 4: dollars that she took in a little suitcase with her
Speaker 4: down to South America and told the governments from Venezuela
Speaker 4: and other continents, here's what we need to do. You
Speaker 4: pay your people to stay in your country. We're going
Speaker 4: to help with their economic situation. They don't need to
Speaker 4: come to America. Well, they're not stupid down there, they
Speaker 4: spout said sure, and then they paid them and the
Speaker 4: people said, okay, I'll wait a day. I'll just take
Speaker 4: your money to day and I'll go to borrow in America.
Speaker 4: And that's what they did. That is her solution, when
Speaker 4: the real solution would have been what every American knows.
Speaker 4: Close the borders, put military units the same as they
Speaker 4: do in other countries, and make sure these borders are secure.
Speaker 4: You are welcome to come through the processes that Congress
Speaker 4: hasn't acted to allow you to be here. You are
Speaker 4: not welcome to come spy or invade, or decide to
Speaker 4: bring your drugs or decide to hurt our people any
Speaker 4: other way, and you you dealt with severely should you
Speaker 4: try to do so. That was shut it down immediately.
Speaker 1: I just referenced this report from last week from Aurora, Colorado.
Speaker 1: Of course, Colorado being a sanctuary state thanks to their
Speaker 1: do nothing, know nothing governor Polis, But in Aurora, Colorado
Speaker 1: right now, pretty good distance from the border, there are
Speaker 1: entire city blocks of this town that they never saw
Speaker 1: this before, They never asked for they'd never bargained for it,
Speaker 1: for sure, with their sanctuary state status, but their entire
Speaker 1: city blocks of Aurora, Colorado, big swaths of this town
Speaker 1: that have been taken over by this very violent Venezuelan gang.
Speaker 1: We've all heard about MS thirteen, but these guys that
Speaker 1: were released from prison and allowed to come here from
Speaker 1: Venezuela are even worse, and they are taking over apartment
Speaker 1: complexes and businesses and running rough shot over the citizens
Speaker 1: of this country free and it has all been just
Speaker 1: during the last three and a half years of this invasion.
Speaker 1: It's insane.
Speaker 4: Correct, it's called the well, that's the gang. We're talking
Speaker 4: about other data something to honest signature. People need to understand.
Speaker 4: We now have gang activity and cartels in every state
Speaker 4: of the all fifty states, something that's never happened before.
Speaker 4: They are all cooperating, working together. The old days needs
Speaker 4: to kill each other off, trying to you know, claim territory.
Speaker 4: Now they're cooperating, working together, and for the first time,
Speaker 4: intelligence sources worldwide now tell us that they are cooperating
Speaker 4: with foreign governments, enemies of the United States, Iran and others,
Speaker 4: who are paying them to create habits in this country,
Speaker 4: to kill law enforcement officers and to set the stage
Speaker 4: for terrorist attacks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were given in Aurora, Colorado, we know for
Speaker 1: a fact, and your stay as you as you well
Speaker 1: stated it, it's in all over the country. But in
Speaker 1: these gangs, this Venezuelan gang has been given the green
Speaker 1: light to attack law enforcement officers if they're confronted and
Speaker 1: they've been doing it. They have been doing it.
Speaker 4: It's amazing and you know, you asked what we need
Speaker 4: to do to change in Look, here we have the
Speaker 4: greatest law enforcement. What's left of it anyway. The greatest
Speaker 4: law enforcement, the greatest special forces in the world, and
Speaker 4: as time we quit worried about at lasting everybody else's
Speaker 4: country and start doing our own. Secure our borders. We
Speaker 4: have the intelligence, our served in intelligence agencies. We have
Speaker 4: the intelligence. We know exactly where these people are at.
Speaker 4: Turn us loose, give us twenty four hours, we'll track
Speaker 4: down every one of them and we'll send them back
Speaker 4: to Hell where they belong. And that's exactly what we
Speaker 4: need to do and secure this country for our future
Speaker 4: children and our grandchildren, it generations to come.
Speaker 1: In closing, Michael Letts tell me about Restoring Justice US.
Speaker 1: It's a new initiative.
Speaker 4: It is a new initiative. Restoring Justice US is a
Speaker 4: too prong approach. Care invest USA is making sure we
Speaker 4: protect our officers. They component safety to their families. Restoring
Speaker 4: justice means reworking our judicial system, because you cannot have
Speaker 4: the best law enforcement but a two tier justice system.
Speaker 4: Nobody will respect it. We have that today. Everybody knows it.
Speaker 4: You have to be one class, you get treated one way.
Speaker 4: You have to be one party, you get treated another.
Speaker 4: It's time to redo our judicital system so that it
Speaker 4: is liberty and justice for all equally, which is what
Speaker 4: our founding followers have always thought this country should be,
Speaker 4: and it's time we bring that back.
Speaker 1: How do people find out more about Restoring Justice dot us?
Speaker 4: Go to our website Restoring Justice dot us. They can
Speaker 4: follow everything that we're doing there as well, and just
Speaker 4: remember that's the key. We have to rework our judicital
Speaker 4: system as well. No longer can we have activist judges
Speaker 4: people like that that want to thank if they can
Speaker 4: create legislation from the bench, because nobody in America except
Speaker 4: what's being done in the other way.
Speaker 1: Michael, lets thank you so much for being a part
Speaker 1: of our Labor Day show. I appreciate it so much.
Speaker 4: Jun thank you, God bless you, and God bless America.
Speaker 4: Have a great Labor Day.
Speaker 1: It's Gary Jeff fun Labor.
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Speaker 1: Crown and the weather is just beautiful today. I up
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Speaker 1: five KRCV Talk station. We continue this Labor Day extravaganza.
Speaker 1: Our next guest I not know a whole lot about her,
Speaker 1: So the first part we'll be learning a little bit
Speaker 1: more about our guest, Gretchen Wallart, who is, among other things,
Speaker 1: she's a wife and mother. We know that we know
Speaker 1: that she's out in the middle of nowhere, which is
Speaker 1: someplace that sounds very appealing to me. And she's the
Speaker 1: author of The Magic and Mayhem of Donald Trump. And Gretchen,
Speaker 1: welcome to the show.
Speaker 10: I'm so glad to be here.
Speaker 1: Great to have you. So anyway, the first thing I
Speaker 1: thought when I see any book title with Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: I said, this is gonna sell some copies. Donald Trump
Speaker 1: is gold. Whether it's a riveting expose a I mean
Speaker 1: what Hillary paid what nine million dollars for a story
Speaker 1: on Donald Trump. So it's either people are diehard Trump's
Speaker 1: supporters and they see a title with Donald Trump, or
Speaker 1: they're big time detractors of Donald Trump, and there are
Speaker 1: certainly plenty of both in this country. And they see
Speaker 1: Donald Trump they want to learn more about who they
Speaker 1: hate so much, whether there's any reasonability towards that hatred
Speaker 1: or not. So I commend you on the title. This
Speaker 1: is good. And in this book you kind of talk
Speaker 1: about that deep divide in the country, and there is
Speaker 1: some magic to the man, no doubt about it. And
Speaker 1: mayhem seems to follow him around or be injected into
Speaker 1: hers persona by the media and other places. So tell
Speaker 1: me a little bit about you first. Who's Gretchen Waller
Speaker 1: besides a wife and mom in Wyoming?
Speaker 10: Well, we farm and ranch here in Wyoming where we
Speaker 10: call it God Country. It's it's southeast Wyoming. We have
Speaker 10: a small business. I'm a teacher by education. I've got
Speaker 10: a history and English degree and I have taught fourth
Speaker 10: and fifth grade for years, not currently teaching right now.
Speaker 10: I'm involved in politics.
Speaker 3: My husband.
Speaker 10: We have cattle, We raise cattle, we raise alfalfa corn.
Speaker 10: So yeah, we're just kind of ordinary people out here
Speaker 10: in Wyoming. But you know my book Magic and Mayhem
Speaker 10: of Donald Trump. That began in twenty sixteen when when
Speaker 10: Donald Trump came on the stage and I saw similarities.
Speaker 10: You know, as a teacher, I've taught Abraham Lincoln for
Speaker 10: years to young people and thought I knew a lot
Speaker 10: about him, But turns out I didn't know a lot
Speaker 10: about Abraham Lincoln and how similar he and Donald Trump
Speaker 10: really are. But that started my first book, Born to
Speaker 10: Fight Lincoln and Trump, and then this one came out
Speaker 10: of that. This is a strategic excerpt of that and
Speaker 10: just being able to see from a distance of who
Speaker 10: this this incredible enigma. And I call him that Donald Trump,
Speaker 10: you know who. The Democrats can't start stop talking about him.
Speaker 10: He is he is everything.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 10: That's the way it was with Lincoln in our divided
Speaker 10: nation as well. And we are so divided today. And
Speaker 10: you know, the magic and Mayhem passination wants to incarcerat
Speaker 10: Donald Trump just because they hate him because he stood
Speaker 10: up and wants to stop their vision of America, which
Speaker 10: is you know, socialist and globalistic, apologetic, weak and government
Speaker 10: control people and and uh, you know, but the other
Speaker 10: half of the nation, they they want, uh, they almost
Speaker 10: want to make him into a saint. But there is
Speaker 10: a happy medium.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 10: There's magic to him, there's mayhem to him, and most
Speaker 10: of it is attached to him, but a lot of
Speaker 10: it he does himself. What he says, of course, comes out.
Speaker 1: Of his mouth.
Speaker 10: He doesn't have a filter. But you know, I think
Speaker 10: about that, and I think, you know, if we only
Speaker 10: knew what Donald Trump didn't say, then we would maybe
Speaker 10: appreciate that a little more in the things that come
Speaker 10: out of his mouth that we don't like, and that
Speaker 10: is a lot of the mayhem. But but but you know,
Speaker 10: he's an ordinary person, and there's there's.
Speaker 6: Good and there's bad.
Speaker 10: But one thing he's doing is he's a fighter and
Speaker 10: he's standing up and he's fighting for our side right now.
Speaker 10: And part of that magic is he does not give up.
Speaker 10: And that's incredible at this point in history leading up
Speaker 10: to this selection.
Speaker 1: Gretchen, that fighter in Donald Trump that you mentioned was
Speaker 1: never on more clear display than on July thirteenth, when
Speaker 1: an assassin's bullet took off part of his ear and
Speaker 1: we almost lost him. And that fight, fight, fight, that
Speaker 1: he came up from the podium, much to some of
Speaker 1: the Secret services chagrin, making himself a target again in
Speaker 1: case there was a second shooter. That fight, fight, fight thing,
Speaker 1: you're right, has been there from the very beginning, and
Speaker 1: it is fighting against the status quo in Washington and
Speaker 1: in these political circles inside the Beltway. It's fighting against
Speaker 1: the status quo of well, the government's really in charge,
Speaker 1: the people aren't in charge. You're just pleabs to make
Speaker 1: sure we fill our tax coffers and keep us in power.
Speaker 1: And that's how it feels to me personally. So I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say that I view the president President Trump as
Speaker 1: a savior necessarily, but I surely think that we're at
Speaker 1: this turning point. If we don't have someone with Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's moxie and Donald Trump's bravery, we don't get out
Speaker 1: of this hole that we've been put in by big government,
Speaker 1: by obese government.
Speaker 10: That's true, you know, when the assassination attempt happened. Of
Speaker 10: course that is iconic now, but that is Donald Trump's nature.
Speaker 10: He is a fighter, and in times like that, when
Speaker 10: you realize that they're trying to kill me because of
Speaker 10: what I'm doing, that is his nature. He spent a lifetime,
Speaker 10: you know, punching and fighting and standing up. And one
Speaker 10: thing that I sound interesting, you know, the people that
Speaker 10: don't like all the things he says, and the fact
Speaker 10: that he is completely transparent and simply says what's in
Speaker 10: his head. That's a part of his mayhem, but you know, part.
Speaker 1: Of you know who he is.
Speaker 10: I know he's he's one person. What he says, does
Speaker 10: and thinks is all the same thing. But some people,
Speaker 10: you know, and and Donald Trump is the first who
Speaker 10: had admit he said it was God alone who prevented
Speaker 10: the unthinkable on that day. But I listened to Christians
Speaker 10: and friends of mine and they said, well, I hope
Speaker 10: Donald Trump now is is humble and and you know,
Speaker 10: and I thought he did have a little bit of
Speaker 10: different attitude at the r n C. I think there was,
Speaker 10: but you know what, Donald Trump is going to be
Speaker 10: Donald Trump's. He is not going to change. But what
Speaker 10: it did do is it absolutely made him come out
Speaker 10: doubling down on fighting. And you know, he spent a
Speaker 10: lifetime where people said if something was impossible, he would
Speaker 10: figure out a way.
Speaker 4: To get it done.
Speaker 10: And that's what he does. And what that did, that
Speaker 10: assassination attempt did was even even make him more firm
Speaker 10: in fighting for America and bringing back all of that
Speaker 10: stuff that we have lost in the last four years
Speaker 10: and will lose if this election does not go our way,
Speaker 10: meaning you know, the America First Mega Donald Trump. It
Speaker 10: is incredibly we're at a crossroads and this is the
Speaker 10: election that's going to do it. And it's a tough
Speaker 10: job ahead. But Donald Trump is he's a fighter and
Speaker 10: he's ready for the job. He's he just won't go away.
Speaker 1: And thank goodness for that, Thank goodness for that, Tonya
Speaker 1: Gregen Wallert, the author of the Magic and Mayhem of
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. And we've got more conversation coming up. Gary
Speaker 1: Jeff with you on Labor Day.
Speaker 9: This is fifty five KRC and iHeartRadio Station.
Speaker 1: The author of the Magic in Mayhem of Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: a teacher by trade, the wife and a farmer's wife. See.
Speaker 1: I come from farmers stock. I was born in Mount Pleasant, Iowa,
Speaker 1: from a long line of people on one side of
Speaker 1: my family were farmers. And every time I go back,
Speaker 1: I haven't lived there more than a couple of months
Speaker 1: of my early life, but visited several times to see
Speaker 1: relatives and stuff who still live there. And every time
Speaker 1: I go there, I feel at home out in the middle,
Speaker 1: as you said, middle of nowhere, where most a lot
Speaker 1: of Americans live and are very, very productive and very patriotic. Gretchen,
Speaker 1: we were talking about the Trump assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: and his first outdoor rally after that was in Ashboro,
Speaker 1: North Carolina. This is Labor Day, so it's been about
Speaker 1: a week and a half ago, and the Secret Service
Speaker 1: put up these big plexiglass bulletproof kind of blinders on
Speaker 1: either side and in front of the podium where he
Speaker 1: was speaking, and all of a sudden, there is something
Speaker 1: a commotion going on to the left part of the
Speaker 1: stage and he stops his speech and he's he's doing
Speaker 1: real well. He's cooking along there, getting the message out
Speaker 1: and being Donald Trump. And he stops the message all
Speaker 1: of a sudden mid sentence because he hears his commotion.
Speaker 1: He looks to his left and he said, is there
Speaker 1: a problem? And somebody from over there calls and said,
Speaker 1: we need a doctor, and he just turns and goes,
Speaker 1: doctor please, and he stops again. You know that there
Speaker 1: was somebody on the way to help this person who
Speaker 1: had passed out or what are in the heat of
Speaker 1: the day at this Donald Trump rally in Ashboro, North Carolina,
Speaker 1: and he stops and he waited till somebody got over there,
Speaker 1: and he waited to see that the woman was okay. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any other candidate that I've seen
Speaker 1: in a long time who would stop an important campaign
Speaker 1: stump speech in a state he's gotta win North Carolina
Speaker 1: because somebody passes out or has a little issue. But
Speaker 1: Donald Trump completely stopped until the doctor got over there,
Speaker 1: attended to the woman and she was back up on
Speaker 1: her feet again, and then to the freaking out Secret
Speaker 1: Service agents. I'm sure Donald Trump just walks off the stage.
Speaker 1: He bulleted off the stage to where this woman was
Speaker 1: sitting in the front row and comes over and talks
Speaker 1: to her, make sure she's okay, right in the middle
Speaker 1: of the speech. And Secret Services. God, we put this
Speaker 1: pleacey glass up in front of him, and here he
Speaker 1: is unprotected going off these steps. And it said more
Speaker 1: to me about Donald Trump than any speech he could
Speaker 1: have given, was that in that moment, his speech wasn't important.
Speaker 1: What was important was his supporter who was having a
Speaker 1: meta issue, and he went over and gave her a
Speaker 1: hug and talked to her, then came back up to
Speaker 1: the stage with Secret Service do to do to do,
Speaker 1: following and making sure nobody else took a shot at him,
Speaker 1: and continued his speech. Picked it right up. But see
Speaker 1: that this says more to me about the magic of
Speaker 1: Donald Trump than maybe anything else. Your thoughts on the.
Speaker 10: Well, definitely we.
Speaker 4: Talked about.
Speaker 10: You know how real Donald Trump is. You know all
Speaker 10: the lies, anything the Democrats say about him, You just
Speaker 10: need to interpret them properly. Whatever they say is exactly
Speaker 10: the opposite of what is true. Donald Trump has great empathy.
Speaker 10: He has a moral core, and I'm not talking about
Speaker 10: you know, he had an affair or whatever. You know,
Speaker 10: he does have flaws, but he's got this intense sense
Speaker 10: of right and wrong, and he truly loves people. And
Speaker 10: we don't see that because he spent a lifetime also
Speaker 10: creating this facade that is his business, is his you know,
Speaker 10: larger than life personality. It's all showmanship. But he does
Speaker 10: have this heart and soul that is underneath that facade,
Speaker 10: and it was on full display that day.
Speaker 6: You know, we saw it.
Speaker 10: And you know, the comparison between Lincoln and Trump. One
Speaker 10: thing about both of these incredible American leaders is they
Speaker 10: were not concerned for their safety. Their message was number one,
Speaker 10: their absolute laser focus in Abraham Lincoln winning the war,
Speaker 10: you know, first winning the election, then winning the war
Speaker 10: and all of the maneuvering political and otherwise that went
Speaker 10: with that, not caring for his personal safety. And Donald
Speaker 10: Trump the same, He is laser focused on making America
Speaker 10: great again. You know, I'm hoping that America is starting
Speaker 10: to think again because you know, like I said, this
Speaker 10: is an incredible turning point that we are coming to
Speaker 10: and Donald Trump also has that sense that there is
Speaker 10: a higher power than himself who is in charge. That's
Speaker 10: important too, and that goes along with his fearlessness. He's
Speaker 10: a fighter, he's fearless, but also he has a sense
Speaker 10: that that God is in charge and he is doing
Speaker 10: his best to be in that will of you know,
Speaker 10: the divine providence on America. And we just hope and
Speaker 10: pray that God saving him from that one bullet, is
Speaker 10: going to continue through you know what Lincoln had to
Speaker 10: endure in administering the Civil War and fighting that, and
Speaker 10: that Donald Trump is able to get so many things
Speaker 10: done and and it's it's going to be puffed because
Speaker 10: he has he has what Lincoln said, smoked those skunks
Speaker 10: out from under the barn. And now all hell has
Speaker 10: broken loose. And you think it's bad, now, Uh, it's
Speaker 10: it's come November fifth and it's Donald Trump who is president.
Speaker 10: That is that's going to be an incredible fight the
Speaker 10: beginning of it.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you're right. I think the election is only
Speaker 1: the prelude to what is what we're going to have
Speaker 1: to deal with afterwards. If Donald Trump, you know, amen,
Speaker 1: praise God, echo your words. Is our president again. You know,
Speaker 1: he faces the same thing that Lincoln faced. That they
Speaker 1: knew if Lincoln was elected there was going to be
Speaker 1: a civil war in this country because of his refusal
Speaker 1: to accept slavery on this continent and for Donald Trump's
Speaker 1: refuse usual to accept globalist Marxist takeover of every American life.
Speaker 1: The other side, they're very powerful, and they are they
Speaker 1: will stop at nothing to retain powers. So it's going
Speaker 1: to be they say, oh, you're living in interesting times.
Speaker 1: I think I don't know how much interesting I want,
Speaker 1: but I definitely want Donald Trump back in the White House,
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. Just to save the country.
Speaker 10: Yes, interesting kids, that's an understatement, by the way. But
Speaker 10: you know one thing that is so similar with what
Speaker 10: the Democrats were doing, and they were Southern Democrats, but
Speaker 10: you know the northern Democrats also, Lincoln discovered that there
Speaker 10: were no anti slavery Democrats. They were all for slavery.
Speaker 10: But it was the South that succeeded. And what the
Speaker 10: Democrats did there is and the reason that they suceeded,
Speaker 10: of course, to have the freedom to have their slaves
Speaker 10: is what they said, which Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 6: Said, Wait a minute, that is just hypocritical.
Speaker 10: But Democrats demolish boundaries, and they wanted slavery everywhere. They
Speaker 10: wanted in northern factories, and they started ramming legislation through Congress,
Speaker 10: the Kansas Nebraska Act, and the Supreme Court dread Scott decision,
Speaker 10: which was demolishing all of those boundaries for that, and
Speaker 10: the Democrats that's what they do today. They completely are
Speaker 10: demolishing boundaries. I think every one hundred and fifty years
Speaker 10: the Democrats go off the deep end, and this is
Speaker 10: that time. They're demolishing, you know, abortion boundaries, which is
Speaker 10: us just huge. They're demolishing moral boundaries with the craziness
Speaker 10: with the transgender and all of that. It's what they do.
Speaker 10: It's what the Democrat Party does, and they're doing it
Speaker 10: incredibly now, just like they did in Abraham Lincoln's time.
Speaker 10: Lincoln was the one they wanted to get rid of
Speaker 10: because he stood in the way. Trump is the one
Speaker 10: they want to get rid of now because he is
Speaker 10: the way.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Gretchen Wallert, thank you so much for your time
Speaker 1: on this Labor Day holiday. The book is the magic
Speaker 1: and the mayhem of Donald Trump, and hopefully we get
Speaker 1: to see a whole lot more of that on display. Gretchen,
Speaker 1: thank you very much. It is Labor Day. I'm Gary
Speaker 1: Jeff Walker.
Speaker 9: Fifty five KRC.
Speaker 1: Once again, thanks for being with us on Labor Day.
Speaker 1: A pleasant day, sunshine up to seventy nine. The humidity
Speaker 1: is gone. Joy. I love it when Brian takes off
Speaker 1: because I get a chance to be with you and
Speaker 1: until the next time. Thanks to all of our guests today.
Speaker 1: From Peter Bronson, a new book coming out called Promised
Speaker 1: Land Sometimes this Fall more local history, Rick Robinson his
Speaker 1: book nineteen sixty eight. You just heard from Gretchen Wallart
Speaker 1: and her new book The Magic and Mayhem of Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: and there is both to be sure. And thanks to
Speaker 1: Michael Letts from invest USA and Sheriff Richard Mack who
Speaker 1: was up to shares upholding their constitutional duty to obey
Speaker 1: the oath they take when they go into office. Unlike
Speaker 1: maybe the person that supposedly works for you in their
Speaker 1: elected office right now, you should ask them, why are
Speaker 1: you not upholding your oath? Anyway, I have a great
Speaker 1: rest of the day. We'll talk to you soon here
Speaker 1: on fifty five KRC Detalk Station