WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.199 --> 00:00:04.440 Well, looks like it's a wake up call. 2 00:00:09.439 --> 00:00:17.480 Somes come past, the innocent, can never last. 3 00:00:18.559 --> 00:00:19.760 Wake me up. 4 00:00:20.839 --> 00:00:26.039 When septemberans, we got a whole month left. 5 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:28.160 Go ahead, snooze. 6 00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:34.320 Like my father's come to pass seven years as. 7 00:00:34.359 --> 00:00:38.000 Cone up fast, Wake me up. 8 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:53.119 When set taberans, he comes up again, falling from the stars, 9 00:00:55.159 --> 00:01:06.920 drench in my pain again, become as my mamory. 10 00:01:07.040 --> 00:01:13.159 Good morning on a Labor Day Monday. Gary Jeff Walker 11 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:19.359 in for Brian Thomas, the second of September. I'm Billy 12 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:25.120 Joe and Green Day, many of them here in the 13 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:27.760 Tri State area. Who are? And people from I guess 14 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:30.799 outside the arena, thrilled to the sounds of green Day live. 15 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:37.040 Just the last couple of weeks, and now the fireworks 16 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:43.120 are over, and the realization that summer is we're all 17 00:01:43.159 --> 00:01:46.840 intents and purposes over, and the weather feels like before 18 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:50.400 we look at I look back at significant events and 19 00:01:50.519 --> 00:01:54.680 people tied to this particular date in history. September second, 20 00:01:56.000 --> 00:02:01.280 sixteen sixty six. God, I was really young. Then the 21 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:06.840 Great Fire of London began, destroying more than thirteen thousand dwellings, 22 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:11.199 hundreds of additional structures, including Saint Paul's Cathedral over a 23 00:02:11.240 --> 00:02:17.960 three day period. You think our fires are bad? The 24 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:22.400 United States Treasury Department established on this date in seventeen 25 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:27.039 eighty nine, and don't blame them for the things that 26 00:02:27.080 --> 00:02:30.960 the IRS does. Although Janet Yellen is not one of 27 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:35.439 my favorite people right now, some of the fiscal decisions 28 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:38.599 that are being made on our behalf. On September second, 29 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:44.280 eighteen sixty four, during America's horrible Civil War, Union General 30 00:02:44.360 --> 00:02:51.319 William Sherman's forces occupied Atlanta burn it to the sea. 31 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:55.719 Nineteen thirty five, On this date, a Category five hurricane 32 00:02:55.800 --> 00:02:58.439 slammed into the Florida Keys on Labor Day, claiming more 33 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:03.599 than four hundred and If you want to flip forward 34 00:03:03.599 --> 00:03:07.719 to nineteen fifty eight, President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed a 35 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:11.439 National Defense Education Act, providing aid to the public and 36 00:03:11.520 --> 00:03:15.599 private education to promote learning in fields like math and science. 37 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:20.759 We need a re establishment of what Eisenhower had wrought 38 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:26.639 in this country's education, There's no question about it. September second, 39 00:03:26.680 --> 00:03:30.039 nineteen forty five, Japan formally surrendered in ceremonies aboard the 40 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:34.680 USS Missouri and Tokyo Bay, officially ending finally for once 41 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:38.599 and for all World War two this date. In nineteen 42 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:42.560 ninety eight, a Swiss Air MD eleven jetliner crashed off 43 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:50.039 Nova Scotia's killing all two hundred and twenty nine and 44 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:52.479 in what some regard as the birth of the Internet. 45 00:03:52.479 --> 00:03:55.039 Here we'll back up a little bit to nineteen sixty nine. 46 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:58.960 Two connected computers at the University of California, Los Angeles 47 00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:02.479 pass test data through a fifteen foot cable. In other words, 48 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:09.240 they had virtual web sex. A National Guard convoy packed 49 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:11.840 with food, water, and medicine rolled into New Orleans after 50 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:17.879 four days of Hurricane Katrina's carnage was two thousand and five. 51 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:24.439 Remember well, twenty thirteen, on her fifth try, US endurance 52 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:27.160 swimmer Diana and Naiad became the first person to swim 53 00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:32.399 from Cuba to Florida without the help of a shark cage. 54 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:35.439 A huge fire in Gulf Brazil's two hundred year old 55 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:39.000 National Museum in Rio de Janeiro, as firefighters and museum 56 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:45.040 workers raced to save historical relics there twenty eighteen. Things 57 00:04:45.079 --> 00:04:50.000 in Brazil are much worse than a fire in a 58 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:57.160 national museums. It's a fire sale. Did you hear that 59 00:04:57.519 --> 00:05:01.199 X is completely exed out of the country of and 60 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:04.920 there's an eight thousand dollars fine if people are caught 61 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:09.879 trying to find a VPN to get Twitter. The information 62 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:14.680 is being choked off by a government that has proved 63 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:21.680 itself nothing to be nothing but New Age Marxists. It 64 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:24.199 was on this date five years ago a fire swept 65 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:27.560 through a boat carrying recreational scuba diizer divers anchored off 66 00:05:27.560 --> 00:05:31.439 the island of the southern California coast. The captain four 67 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:34.639 others of the crew able to escape, thirty four people 68 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:42.319 trapped below did not. Former Senator Alan Simpson of Wyoming 69 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:47.199 is ninety three. Horse trainer d Wayne Lucas turns eighty 70 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:51.639 nine today. Former United States Olympic Committee chairman and former 71 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:56.480 Major League Baseball commissioner Peter Euber ofv clips eighty seven. 72 00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:01.240 Football Hall of Famer Terry Bradshaw's seventy six Basketball Hall 73 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:07.959 of Famer Nate Tiny Archibald is seventy six. Watching Tiny 74 00:06:08.519 --> 00:06:11.800 play hoops, and Tiny wound up not being the smallest 75 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:15.560 ever player to suit up for an NBA team. He 76 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:18.759 was five to eleven, but he could literally jump out 77 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:22.680 of the gym. Producer Sean McMahon never got the benefit 78 00:06:22.720 --> 00:06:27.839 of seeing Nate Archibald play basketball, But he was before 79 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:31.759 Muggsy Bogues, before any of the tiny tots got out 80 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:38.959 there and stunned us. Playing against these other physical freaks 81 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:43.759 that dominate the NBA, Nate Tiny Archibald was one hell 82 00:06:43.800 --> 00:06:49.040 of a hoopster. Actor Mark Harmon is seventy three. Tennis 83 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:52.480 Hall of Famer Jimmy Conners turned seventy two this week. 84 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:58.439 Football Hall of Famer Eric Dickerson man that guy could 85 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:02.639 run the football, sixty four years old. Today. British Prime 86 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:08.399 Minister Kiir Starmer is sixty two, still waiting on the 87 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:14.240 final grades for Kir. Actor Keanu Reeves is sixty Somewhere 88 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:18.079 in the matrix. He's having some kind of weird cake. 89 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:21.759 Boxing Hall of Famer Lenox Lewis turns fifty nine. To day. 90 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:28.800 Actress Selma Hayak is fifty eight. Kse I kse is 91 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:32.319 fifty five. This is the rapper, the R and B 92 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:36.680 singer case not case of Casey and the Sunshine Man. 93 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:41.160 That's Harry Casey and electronic music producer in dj Z 94 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:44.399 turns thirty five on this September second. If it is 95 00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:47.879 your birthday and I hope and pray for you. That 96 00:07:48.040 --> 00:07:51.160 is the most wonderful birthday you could imagine, spent with 97 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:54.079 the people you love, doing the things you like to do. 98 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:59.439 September second, Happy birthday. One in all, it's five thirteen 99 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:01.800 now that I did some time to get things started 100 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:03.560 this morning, I will tell you a little bit about 101 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:11.199 our show. We have the fantastic Peter Bronson with us 102 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:16.120 this morning for almost a full hour. Our conversations are 103 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:26.720 notorious for being the chemistry, connective, relatable, local. It's good stuff. 104 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:31.879 Also local author and attorney Rick Robinson to talk more 105 00:08:31.959 --> 00:08:35.960 about the relevancy of nineteen sixty eight as here we 106 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:38.279 are in twenty twenty four, that's the name of his book. 107 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:41.799 And we will talk about politics and have a few 108 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:45.639 differences of opinion, which is always good for talk radio. Right, 109 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:50.600 we have a full lineup which I gave to producer 110 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:53.399 Sean McMahon, and I can't recall it all now as 111 00:08:53.399 --> 00:08:56.840 it was written down in the paper. That'll suit me 112 00:08:56.879 --> 00:09:02.200 for giving Sean my information. It's gone now, but it 113 00:09:02.279 --> 00:09:04.840 will all be right here between now and nine o'clock. 114 00:09:04.879 --> 00:09:10.080 And good morning to west Side Jim, longtime friend of 115 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:13.720 the station, friend of mine, friend of yours, he says, 116 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:19.600 morning firework King did not see a bit of what 117 00:09:19.759 --> 00:09:22.399 went on last night, had to get to bed too 118 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:25.039 early when they were coming up on five point fifteen. 119 00:09:25.080 --> 00:09:27.799 We'll take a break and when we come back. By 120 00:09:27.799 --> 00:09:31.360 the way, I know, it's a holiday weekend, it's a Monday, 121 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:35.120 it's early. But if you're out there and you had 122 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:38.360 to get up and go to work today, or for 123 00:09:38.440 --> 00:09:43.039 some reason you are up at five point fifteen on 124 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:46.440 a Monday labor day, feel free to chime in and 125 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:49.480 give us a full report. As they like to say, 126 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:53.159 I'd love to find out who else is out here 127 00:09:53.840 --> 00:09:56.279 except for me. Don't make me feel like I'm all alone. 128 00:09:56.480 --> 00:10:00.240 Come on, people, Gary jeff In for Brian Thomas, it's 129 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:03.159 Gary jet Fund Labor Day on fifty five KRC, the 130 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:09.399 talk station. That's five eighteen. It's September two, and mail 131 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:14.039 in ballots are going out this week, sixty days before 132 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:18.519 election day, sixty days before one of the more I 133 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:28.759 would say, pivotal, no crucial, vital election days in America's history, 134 00:10:29.679 --> 00:10:32.279 where we will decide whether we continue down this path 135 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:42.000 of neo Marxism, all out Marxism, and corporate America being 136 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:45.360 in cahoots with the government, you know, communist China. There 137 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:51.440 there are companies, but they're not independent. They're all owned 138 00:10:51.440 --> 00:10:56.720 by the state. And from what we've learned from Mark 139 00:10:56.840 --> 00:10:59.559 Zuckerberg and what we've seen over the last three and 140 00:10:59.559 --> 00:11:03.159 a half years or whatever, Facebook is nothing but an 141 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:08.799 arm of the power elite in Washington, DC. Facebook is 142 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:14.559 a company. While you'd say, what private shareholders, they have 143 00:11:14.600 --> 00:11:19.399 a CEO that makes plenty of money. I mean, you know, 144 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:23.120 they pay their people. They are nothing but an arm 145 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:27.440 of the Democrat Party. Against the backdrop of all that, 146 00:11:27.559 --> 00:11:33.600 back to election day, the sixty days around till November fifth, 147 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:38.480 The first mailand ballots are supposed to be in voters' 148 00:11:38.480 --> 00:11:44.480 hands this week in some crucial key states. Now, this 149 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:47.639 first batch is usually sent out to the military people 150 00:11:47.639 --> 00:11:52.039 who were overseas under federal law. That's going to happen 151 00:11:52.039 --> 00:11:54.759 at least forty five days before the election, or the 152 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:59.720 twenty first of this month. Some states start even earlier 153 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:02.200 than we're Carolina is one of them. Considered a key 154 00:12:02.240 --> 00:12:07.480 battleground state this year, they'll begin sending the mail ballots 155 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:11.120 to all voters who request them, including the military personnel 156 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:15.120 and overseas voters starting this Friday, according to their state 157 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:22.799 Board of Elections. Now, voter registrations deadlines vary by each state. 158 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:29.399 I think in Ohio it's thirty days before the election, 159 00:12:29.559 --> 00:12:32.399 between eight. But in Ohio, I know the early voting 160 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:35.480 is it goes on for a month. Isn't that right? Westside? 161 00:12:35.519 --> 00:12:38.960 Jim could call and tell me, but he won't. I 162 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:41.759 don't live in Ohio, so I'm not quite clear on it. 163 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:45.080 In Kentucky, I think it's you have three days to 164 00:12:45.159 --> 00:12:50.519 early voter or something like that. It is more election 165 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:54.799 day centric as far as when you can actually cast 166 00:12:54.840 --> 00:13:00.120 your ballot. But according to the National Conference of State Legislatures, 167 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:07.799 most voting registration deadlines fall between eight and thirty days 168 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:13.320 before the election. The deadline's October seventh in Georgia, which 169 00:13:13.399 --> 00:13:19.919 is a month out, another key swing state. Now, outside 170 00:13:19.960 --> 00:13:26.519 of the mail ballots again, there are any of the 171 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:29.559 early states that offer some version of in person voting 172 00:13:29.559 --> 00:13:34.320 early and I was just mentioned in Ohio early in 173 00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:37.600 person voting will start as soon as September twentieth in 174 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:41.120 some states, so you know, three weeks away we got 175 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:46.759 people actually casting their ballot in person in Pennsylvania, another 176 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:50.399 one that oddly will be pivotal in determining the outcome 177 00:13:50.559 --> 00:14:00.200 of the coming presidential election. Ballots will be mail that 178 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:05.720 fifty days before the general election. The states that begin 179 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:08.960 mailing ballots to voters more than forty five days before 180 00:14:08.960 --> 00:14:14.200 the election are My Commonwealth, Kentucky, Arkansas, Delaware, Minnesota, North Carolina, 181 00:14:14.360 --> 00:14:21.799 South Dakota, Tennessee, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Alabama, Idaho, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, 182 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:25.799 New Jersey, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, Texas, Virginia, and Wyoming start 183 00:14:25.840 --> 00:14:28.720 mailing ballots to voters forty five days before the election. 184 00:14:32.679 --> 00:14:35.360 In North Carolina, Robert F. Kennedy, who of course, as 185 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:41.000 you know, is endorsed President Trump, will remain on the 186 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:45.720 ballot in the state, according to the state Board of Elections, 187 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:51.799 because already two million dollars two million ballots have been 188 00:14:51.840 --> 00:14:54.480 printed with Kennedy's name on them already, and the first 189 00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:58.679 ballots sent to absent voters in eight days. There's no 190 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:00.840 stop in that train. In other word, words, but it 191 00:15:00.960 --> 00:15:04.759 sounds kind of suspicious when you think that a Kennedy 192 00:15:04.840 --> 00:15:10.440 vote might be a detraction from a Trump vote. And 193 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:15.879 as North Carolina arbitrarily decided to do this. Is that 194 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:19.120 their law. I think they're claiming that there's nothing that 195 00:15:19.159 --> 00:15:21.960 can be done about it because the ballots have already 196 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:27.159 been printed. Kind of wonder sometimes that the ballots have 197 00:15:27.200 --> 00:15:31.679 already been counted before any once even cast one. That's 198 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:36.960 the way it seemed in twenty twenty to me. Now 199 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:42.200 this is all. The first debate, of course, is eight 200 00:15:42.279 --> 00:15:48.399 days away next Tuesday. A week from tomorrow, Donald Trump 201 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:55.039 and Kamala Harris will face off against each other. Tim 202 00:15:55.120 --> 00:16:01.200 Waltz and Senator Vance have agreed to October first debate. 203 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:04.320 Now they're already voting. But as the argument has made 204 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:08.320 many times, and I overall believe it, nobody really votes 205 00:16:08.360 --> 00:16:15.159 for a vice president, although the vice presidential consideration should 206 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:20.240 be fairly shrewd since they're a heartbeat away from being president. 207 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:26.759 But I digress. As of this point, according to this 208 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:29.080 article I'm reading from the Epoch Times, which is a 209 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:33.440 great news source, by the way, If any, it's not 210 00:16:33.559 --> 00:16:39.960 clear if any other debates will be held, and of 211 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:43.600 course President Trump suggested he might pull out of the 212 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:50.840 ABC debate citing concerns about bias at the network. And 213 00:16:50.919 --> 00:16:55.840 they've already directed. They've already demonstrated how in couhots they 214 00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:59.200 are with the powers that be in the Democrat Party 215 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:02.399 in Washington right now in the Biden Harris administration. So 216 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:06.799 can't really blame him for saying, Hey, I don't know 217 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:12.000 if I want to walk into this lion's den where 218 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:15.720 I will be treated unfairly in front of the American public. Yeah, 219 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:18.119 he got through CNN, and that's one hell of a 220 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:21.640 gauntlet all on its own. So we'll see. So five 221 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:24.839 point five on Labor Day, Gary Jeff Walker laboring for 222 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:30.559 you instead of Brian Thomas on fifty five KRCV talk station. 223 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:34.480 Now I'm fifty five hundred almost awake now Gary jeffan 224 00:17:34.559 --> 00:17:40.200 for Brian Thomas on Labor Day. And actually someone else 225 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:44.119 is out there, an early caller about early voting. Pat 226 00:17:44.160 --> 00:17:47.880 and Cole Rane, Good morning, dear, Hello, sugar lips. 227 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:50.240 Sweet. 228 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:54.839 Now they've got they said they can't take Robert Kennedy's 229 00:17:54.920 --> 00:17:55.839 name off the ballot. 230 00:17:56.240 --> 00:17:58.559 Yeah, that's what they said. That's what they said. 231 00:17:58.559 --> 00:18:03.279 In North Carolina, know, Okay, Well, here in the state 232 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:07.519 of Ohio, I went to the library about a week ago. 233 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:12.039 I guess it is. I got the ballots with all 234 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:15.839 the names and judges and whatnot. And the very first 235 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:18.359 name on this ballad is Joseph R. 236 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:18.960 Biden. 237 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:25.440 Now, if they can't take his name off, then they 238 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:30.519 should be really voting for him instead of the elevated 239 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:31.640 Kamala Harris. 240 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:35.680 So is Kamala's name on the on the ballot as 241 00:18:35.720 --> 00:18:37.680 a presidential choice. 242 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:41.920 No, it is Joseph R. Biden and Donald R. 243 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:42.359 Trump. 244 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:46.519 So you know, I always say there is a little 245 00:18:46.519 --> 00:18:48.640 Shenanigan's going on, but. 246 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:49.920 More more than a little. 247 00:18:51.279 --> 00:18:54.559 Yes, Joe was thrown under the bus. He knows where 248 00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:58.240 his place is in life, and they told him in 249 00:18:58.319 --> 00:19:02.960 the uncertain terms, and so the dams didn't get to 250 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:06.559 really because Kamala didn't even make the primaries when she 251 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:12.519 first ran. So, but she's been elevated, So I don't 252 00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:14.839 know what's going on. I keep praying and voting. 253 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:18.079 So well, anyway, you're doing the important thing first. When 254 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:21.839 you said praying, you're doing the most important thing. The 255 00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:27.440 voting's important too, But pray. Pray number one, vote second, 256 00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:31.480 and vote just as hard as you pray. That would 257 00:19:31.559 --> 00:19:35.440 be my advice. Bet more than one person, because it's 258 00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:42.319 so obvious. Has illuminated the fact that the same party 259 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:45.720 that has continued to say and still continues to say, 260 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:49.240 that Donald Trump is a threat to democracy have done 261 00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:54.559 the most un democratic things. It's in the name of 262 00:19:54.640 --> 00:20:01.519 their party, the Democratic Party. It is not demicocratic, nor 263 00:20:01.559 --> 00:20:07.279 should it be a party. It should be renamed what 264 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:11.960 it rightfully is, and that's the Communist Party, the Totalitarian Party, 265 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:15.960 the Marxist Party. I'm sorry. I know there are good 266 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:20.599 Democrat voters, but there is nothing good about your party 267 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:24.519 if you're a registered Democrat, not one thing. And they've 268 00:20:24.559 --> 00:20:29.200 proven it time and time and time again. The road 269 00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:35.759 to hell is paved with democratic policies, be they well 270 00:20:35.759 --> 00:20:41.559 intended or not. But yeah, they can't take Robert F. 271 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:44.160 Kennedy Junior off the ballot. I think it's two states. 272 00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:45.960 I know in North Carolina, I thought there was one 273 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:49.839 more that the state Board of Elections said, No, now 274 00:20:49.880 --> 00:20:54.279 it's too late, we can't take him off. What about 275 00:20:54.359 --> 00:20:59.400 Joe Biden? How many ballots were already printed up with 276 00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:04.079 Biden's Now apparently Pat got a sample from the life 277 00:21:04.119 --> 00:21:10.440 an official Ohio ballot that had Joseph R. Biden as 278 00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:17.519 a choice. Joseph R. Biden and Donald J. Trump. Those 279 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:22.559 are the two selections. Don't you know what this a 280 00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:30.319 good idea. Don't even listen to the media or to 281 00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:36.519 the campaigns telling you you're voting for Kamala Harris versus 282 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:41.440 Donald Trump, because the ballot doesn't say so. It's obviously 283 00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:46.839 a lie. You're still voting for the same policies that 284 00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:48.799 have been in place in the last three and a 285 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:54.759 half years that have put our economy, our sovereignty, and 286 00:21:54.839 --> 00:22:02.559 your personal safety at risk every single day. A leopard 287 00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:06.519 doesn't change her spots. Kamala Harris hasn't changed any policies 288 00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:10.400 that she has held since before the twenty twenty election. 289 00:22:12.480 --> 00:22:15.799 And the evidence is there. It's on video, it's her 290 00:22:16.079 --> 00:22:20.200 own words. It's not AI, it's not chat GPT, it's 291 00:22:20.799 --> 00:22:25.400 not a deep fake. That's who Kamala Harris is. Not 292 00:22:25.519 --> 00:22:30.079 the apologist who's saying that she's changed her mind or 293 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:32.400 shifted values and at the same time in that interview 294 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:34.880 last week saying that her values are still the same. 295 00:22:35.720 --> 00:22:39.200 That was the only truthful thing she said in that 296 00:22:39.759 --> 00:22:44.759 sixteen to eighteen chopped up softball minute interview that was 297 00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:51.880 aired last week on CNN five point thirty five on 298 00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:55.839 a Monday morning Oh, we're getting We're getting cranked up now, 299 00:22:56.599 --> 00:23:01.559 Gary Jeff with you on Labor Day, Gary jeffon Labor Day, 300 00:23:02.279 --> 00:23:06.640 Mark Mix or one of his representatives at We've got 301 00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:12.200 Patrick Simmons from the National Right to Work Foundation. That 302 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:16.839 makes sense for Labor Day. Gretchen Wallart, who was a 303 00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:22.160 mother and wife on a farm in Wyoming, who has 304 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:25.200 written a book about Donald Trump called The Magic and 305 00:23:25.279 --> 00:23:29.319 the Mayhem of Donald Trump. She's a supporter. She admits 306 00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:33.680 there's mayhem, but that's really mostly caused by the people 307 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:40.279 who vehemently opposed Trump. By the way, did you hear 308 00:23:40.680 --> 00:23:42.759 over the weekend or maybe at the tail end of 309 00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:45.880 last week? It came out into last week. I'm sure 310 00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:48.640 Brian may have played it for you, or at least 311 00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:51.880 a portion of it. We may have seen it somewhere else. 312 00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:55.519 I mean, you wouldn't have seen it on ABC, NBC, CBS, 313 00:23:55.640 --> 00:24:01.960 CNN or MSNBC. But the Nicole Shanahan. Nicole Shanahan, of course, 314 00:24:02.599 --> 00:24:05.400 was the vice presidential running mate of Robert F. Kennedy 315 00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:07.880 Junior before he dropped out of the race. And it's 316 00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:11.759 about independence. Maybe Sean can find that for us. Before 317 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:16.680 the top of the hour, comes, it's Nicole Shanahan Trump 318 00:24:16.759 --> 00:24:21.559 derangement syndrome independence. See if you can seek that out, 319 00:24:21.880 --> 00:24:25.599 we'll play at least a portion of that. I mean, 320 00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:28.599 that ought to be a Donald Trump ad, and in 321 00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:33.039 a way, of course it is. But back to what 322 00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:37.759 I was saying, I I don't know if there's any 323 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:43.039 hope for Cincinnati in this election. There are obviously important 324 00:24:43.079 --> 00:24:49.000 elections all the way down the ballot and west side 325 00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:54.400 Jim could be more enlightening on who the Republican Party 326 00:24:54.480 --> 00:24:57.279 is supporting. I'm not that familiar with it, and you 327 00:24:57.480 --> 00:24:59.519 think I'm on the radio in Cincinnati. I should have 328 00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:02.920 some kind of a clue, and I do generally, But 329 00:25:04.920 --> 00:25:08.119 I know that Dick from Dayton doesn't know. Let's see 330 00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:11.720 what Dick knows. Action. Hello, Dick, what's going on? 331 00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:13.839 Good morning Gary, Jeff. 332 00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:17.480 Happened Labor day? Buddy? Yeah, well it's it's happy. I 333 00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:21.440 guess I'm laboring. I just thought i'd call you give 334 00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:24.599 you a little pick me up. Well what do you 335 00:25:24.640 --> 00:25:27.480 think I needed to pick me up? Dick? No, I 336 00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:32.079 just know you're always I just wanted to say, uh huh, thanks. 337 00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:35.039 You know all my friends, like Dave, I just want 338 00:25:35.119 --> 00:25:36.119 to get down to see you. 339 00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:39.279 This year, it's been kind of down in the dumps, 340 00:25:39.319 --> 00:25:40.839 not singing you guys as much. 341 00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:42.400 You know, by the way, I want to, I want to. 342 00:25:42.440 --> 00:25:45.279 I want to tell you something. Okay, when you call 343 00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:50.279 me on Saturday mornings and then you call Ron Wilson 344 00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:55.359 in the garden here on fifty five KRC on Saturday mornings, right, 345 00:25:55.599 --> 00:26:00.880 that is the highlight of his morning in back. Yeah. 346 00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:04.160 He'll come during a break and say Gary Jeff would 347 00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:07.359 Dick from Dayton Cold and it just made my day. 348 00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:14.720 He is effusive in his praise of the Dickster. I mean, 349 00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:19.440 I'm telling you what, there is nobody that he would 350 00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:24.000 rather talk to Dick about anything, because of your wide 351 00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:27.359 range of topics, because of your wide range of interest. 352 00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:30.599 I mean, you've got you've got banjo, you've got mandolin, 353 00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:36.359 you've got you've got you know, triangle. Did you ever 354 00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:37.200 play the cow bell? 355 00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:37.559 Dick? 356 00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:38.440 No? 357 00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:40.839 Never did, never did? Oh, yeah, you ought to take 358 00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:41.279 that up. 359 00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:43.000 I should shouldn't. 360 00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:47.279 I Yeah, you're in continuing in education as a senior 361 00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:52.279 because the classes are free, so you're you're broadening your horizons. 362 00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:56.880 You're I don't know, you're just you're You're like a 363 00:26:56.920 --> 00:26:58.960 renaissance man, Dick, and Ron. 364 00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:00.839 Loves fag yourself. 365 00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:01.039 You. 366 00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:03.640 I mean, I'm dad. 367 00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:07.599 I've told people that, I've told everybody that the best 368 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:09.839 time of my life was when I got. 369 00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:12.759 To meet you and him a Barbara and the lady 370 00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:13.079 you'd be. 371 00:27:13.960 --> 00:27:17.000 You'd be surprised how many people say that after they've 372 00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:17.319 met me. 373 00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:19.480 Let you go, buddy, Oh you. 374 00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:20.400 Don't want to talk some more? 375 00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:22.480 Oh? Yeah, I was gonna talk. 376 00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:24.519 I just I know, I don't know if you're short 377 00:27:24.519 --> 00:27:24.920 a time. 378 00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:28.960 Well, obviously I'm not short a time. I took your call. 379 00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:34.440 Well I know, yeah, yeah, Okay, Well we'll talk to 380 00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:35.480 you next weekend. 381 00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:37.160 Okay, have a good day. 382 00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:40.880 Call Ron. Make sure you call Ron Wilson. Okay, okay, 383 00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:45.359 call you ever call Brian Thomas? No, I never I 384 00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:46.319 call uh. 385 00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:49.599 No, I I wait, I don't know. He doesn't take 386 00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:50.240 my calls. 387 00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:52.960 He doesn't take your call. 388 00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:56.119 I'm gonna use the underline, but uh, maybe say something 389 00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:56.440 to Joe. 390 00:27:56.480 --> 00:27:59.640 I don't. I'm curious. I'm curious as to why Brian 391 00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:02.839 wouldn't take your call. Dick, You're always so so full 392 00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:03.440 of information. 393 00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:06.839 You I just wait, you know, maybe maybe he's got 394 00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:09.720 a different group, but I try to call sometimes. 395 00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:14.200 You know, well, you keep on trying. Okay, one of 396 00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:17.720 these days you'll grab that brass ring. Thanks goodbye, Dick, 397 00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:21.359 coming up on five for we that wasted some time. 398 00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:27.359 I'm sorry about wasting yours, but anyway, five one, three, seven, four, nine, 399 00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:29.319 fifty five hundred. As I stated at the top of 400 00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:33.599 the show, there is plenty of great, great information to come. 401 00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:38.599 Fantastic guests, and it's all ahead in minutes now five 402 00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:41.319 forty five fifty five KRC the talk station. 403 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:44.880 We are loved ones suffering from illnesses such as TDS, 404 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:48.440 also known as Trumps arrangement syndrome. Do you dismiss or 405 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:52.079 deny the current issues facing our country such as historic inflation, 406 00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:56.680 illegal immigration, corporate corruption, World War three escalations, and the 407 00:28:56.759 --> 00:29:00.200 chronic disease epidemic? Are you willing to elect some who 408 00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:03.200 was the least popular vice president in modern history and 409 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:06.480 who offers no policy or vision for America simply because 410 00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:09.599 your brain keeps telling you anyone but Trump. If so, 411 00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:15.920 you might be struggling from TDS. Introducing independence Independence allows 412 00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:19.640 you the freedom to finally think independently once again, instead 413 00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:22.960 of believing everything you hear from the mainstream media. Independence 414 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:24.960 allows for constructive critical thinking. 415 00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:27.720 I used to hear people on the news say things. 416 00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:30.160 Like Donald Trump and the movement he has encouraged are 417 00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:33.400 a threat to democracy, and I instantly believed it. 418 00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:39.559 Don't believe it, don't believe it. It's five forty nine. 419 00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:43.759 Time for our first guest. Well, I do love holidays 420 00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:47.039 because Gary Jeff gets to make some money because the 421 00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:51.559 regular people are out here. We are Gary Jeff Labor Day, 422 00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:56.319 and I have been most looking forward to this guest. 423 00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:00.640 I love all my guests, of course, line them up. 424 00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.759 I I did all this heavy duty planning to get 425 00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:07.720 just the right people for just the right segment. Most 426 00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:11.160 of it is people that have, you know, over the years, 427 00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:15.000 not only spark my imagination, but are great guests. And 428 00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:20.480 this is definitely Numero uno for me. Anytime he has time, 429 00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:24.240 and thankfully, gratefully, thank you God he had time for 430 00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:28.640 us today. Peter Bronson in the studio, how are you, peeple. 431 00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:30.880 I'm glad to be here on the holiday. What a 432 00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:34.960 great way to celebrate with my buddy Gary Jeff. Yes, yes, 433 00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:38.440 an all day long part. We will labor together. 434 00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:41.680 I hope it's not too laborious in the vineyards of 435 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:46.240 talk radio. No much sleep I got last night. Anyway, 436 00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:51.440 Let's talk first and kind of tease your next book project, 437 00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:56.160 because people, absolutely overwhelmingly, and you know this from local 438 00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:59.839 book sales, love your books about Cincinnati and its history, 439 00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:02.960 this area's history, you know, from the Man who Saved 440 00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:09.200 Cincinnati to Forbidden Fruit to in our town. You all 441 00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:12.480 behind the lines, behind the lines about the riots in 442 00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:14.720 two thousand and one, what happened in the aftermath of 443 00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:21.039 that Pete. So this new book is it's a working title, 444 00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:24.559 yes I do. The working title is Promised Land, all right. 445 00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:28.240 And it's about the people who the really gutsy and 446 00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:33.880 courageous people who settled this area in the seventeen eighties 447 00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:37.079 and seventeen nineties, first in Kentucky and then in Ohio 448 00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:41.680 when a picture this. So, you're an American Revolutionary war 449 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.480 veteran and you've just defeated the biggest superpower on Earth, 450 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:49.400 the British Empire, and you get good news and bad 451 00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:52.240 news from the government. The government says, well, the bad 452 00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:55.359 news is we don't have any money left to pay you, right, 453 00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:59.480 so we're broke, and thank you for your service. But oh, 454 00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:01.279 by the way, hey, the good news is we have 455 00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:05.480 some free land that will give you in the Ohio territory. 456 00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:08.160 Well that came with a little bit of fine print 457 00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:11.640 bad news attached, which is that, oh, by the way, 458 00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:14.160 there's some people there that already think that's their land. 459 00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:18.279 And those are some of the fiercest and most cruel 460 00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:22.480 and barbaric people on earth. They are the Shawnee and 461 00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:26.960 Miami Indian tribes. Even the Mohawks and the Iroquois would 462 00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:30.960 not mess with the Shawnee, right and when they decided 463 00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:34.119 that you're not supposed to be on my land, WHOA. 464 00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:38.720 Anytime you get into a conversation about the indigenous peoples 465 00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:42.359 who were here before the Northern European settlers, the evil 466 00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:47.319 white men, anytime you get into that conversation, Peter, what 467 00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:53.319 is always left out of that conversation was that tribes 468 00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:56.759 like the Shawnee and the Miami Indians were slaughtering their 469 00:32:56.799 --> 00:33:00.519 fellow indigenous peoples long before we ever got here. And 470 00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:02.839 then when we got here, we got a taste of 471 00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:07.519 what they've been doing all along, taking over people's lande you. 472 00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:12.359 Know, butchering, the kidnapping, torturing, you know, I got to say, look, 473 00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:15.079 just to be clear, there were what we called at 474 00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:19.920 the time depredations, cruelties, barbarity on both sides. There were 475 00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:23.680 white people who took scalps as well. However, there were 476 00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:27.680 not white settlers who tortured people for days at a 477 00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:32.119 time by burning them slowly and prolonging their keeping them 478 00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:34.319 alive just so they could suffer for three or four 479 00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:35.039 days at a time. 480 00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:36.279 That was never done. 481 00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:38.720 That was done in the Indian tribes, and that had 482 00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:42.240 been done previously by those tribes to their enemies. 483 00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:45.400 Sure, but their enemies were other, and it was just 484 00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:52.400 a fight for land, yes, power, power, just tribal hostilities 485 00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:57.519 that go that went back centuries. And also, don't leave 486 00:33:57.559 --> 00:33:59.799 out another part of it that I was really kind 487 00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:02.039 of surprised to see is how much of this was 488 00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:06.720 incited and financed by the British because after the war 489 00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.760 they still harbored a lot of resentment and hatred toward 490 00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:13.920 the Americans, and they wanted to keep us from expanding 491 00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:16.119 westward because they were hoping to claim all of that 492 00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:21.360 land west of the Ohio River for Canada and their empire. 493 00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.639 So they gave they set up bounties and paid the 494 00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:29.639 Indians one hundred dollars for a hostage and fifty dollars 495 00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:34.880 for a scalp. And the hostages, children, women, men, whoever 496 00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:38.400 they could grab, if they weren't scalped and murdered or tortured, 497 00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:41.559 were given to the British and where they became slaves 498 00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:44.320 in Canada. No, the British were really no better than 499 00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:48.000 the cartels that are human trafficking across our southern borders 500 00:34:48.039 --> 00:34:49.239 exactly at will. 501 00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:52.079 And this went on all the way up to eighteen twelve, 502 00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:54.320 and it happened again in the War of eighteen twelve 503 00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:56.880 when the British came back and told the Indians pick 504 00:34:56.960 --> 00:34:57.719 up the tomahawk. 505 00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:00.599 That was their signal go after the America. Well, I 506 00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:03.920 mean just to I guess my original point was to 507 00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:10.960 divorce the Indigenous people from human nature, and the constant 508 00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:14.599 struggle for land, fight and power is really myopic. 509 00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:18.360 It is, and it also ignores the bigger scope of history, 510 00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:23.079 which is that land has always belonged to the people 511 00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:26.400 who find a way to use it best. The Indians 512 00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:30.159 required hundreds of square miles to sustain their civilization, not 513 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:32.559 based on a hunting gathering society. 514 00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:34.280 They were almost in the. 515 00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:39.320 Stone Age, Right, the White Europeans came and they had tools, 516 00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:44.360 they had advanced civilization, they had better communication, education, and 517 00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.880 they knew how to farm, so they could turn one 518 00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:50.760 hundred acres into a farm that would sustain one hundred people. 519 00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:55.440 The Indians needed one hundred acres or one hundred square 520 00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:58.000 miles to sustain one hundred people. 521 00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:01.360 Right. So it's just the. 522 00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:04.199 Wheel of history is going to always turn in the 523 00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:06.119 direction of those who can use the land to its 524 00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:07.079 best advantage. 525 00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:09.519 I think a perfect modern day example of that is 526 00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:13.480 a state of Israel. Yes, they turned a desert into 527 00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:18.079 a paradigmic point in that part of the world. And 528 00:36:18.119 --> 00:36:23.679 who predicted that God? Yes, God, Amen. But I mean 529 00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:23.960 at the. 530 00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:26.519 Time they were it was as if they'd been given 531 00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:29.239 this little slice of god forsaken desert. 532 00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:32.239 Yes, and it turned out to be their promised land. 533 00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:36.800 It's amazing story. Yeah, and it's being written all the time. 534 00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:40.400 And Peter is writing that story again with his new book. 535 00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:41.719 When do you expect it out? 536 00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:44.400 I'm going to have it out this fall, so we'll 537 00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:46.159 have it in time for Christmas sales. 538 00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:49.760 All right, fantastic, another one on the list. Every time 539 00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:52.800 I have you on and you're talking about one of 540 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:57.880 your books. I have somebody contact me outside the realm 541 00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:01.119 of radio, whether I'm at the bar or just people 542 00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:04.480 who know me. Said, yeah, I heard Peter Bronson. That 543 00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:08.280 sounds like a really great book. I said, it is. Oh, 544 00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:09.599 I have so much fun doing those. 545 00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:14.119 And Cincinnati not only loves its history, but it has 546 00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:16.440 a good reason to love its history because this region 547 00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:20.480 is so rich in history. This really is where so 548 00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:24.000 many things happened that determine the fate of our country. 549 00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:26.239 And this book is no exception. 550 00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:29.239 There's a lot more to say about it, but I'm 551 00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:32.400 gonna leave it front no later. But there's so much 552 00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:36.159 that happened here in this Miami Valley that really did 553 00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:38.360 determine the fate of this United States. 554 00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:43.159 Fantastic again. The working title Promised Land, Promised Land, looking 555 00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:46.159 forward in sometime this fall, and here we are. I'm 556 00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:49.519 the precipice of fall. Yes, you can't wear your white 557 00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:52.880 pants anymore. I don't have any white pants. 558 00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:53.000 I mean neither. 559 00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:56.679 Okay, no more white shoes more. With Peter Bronson as 560 00:37:56.679 --> 00:38:01.039 we continue, It's Gary Jeff on Labor Day, your campaign 561 00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:04.199 fitstop on the road to November. 562 00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:05.239 There's so much going on. I got to check in 563 00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:06.119 a few times a day. 564 00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:10.639 Fifty five krs the talk station. Hey, if you're listening 565 00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:14.360 to me right now with Peter Bronson and we continue 566 00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:17.679 in spite of your request for us to stop Garrie 567 00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:21.800 with Peter Bronson here, Yeah, just ignore those calls. Yeah, 568 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:26.760 so I know that you love the political satire site, 569 00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:29.880 The Babylon b Absolutely, which we found out last week, 570 00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:36.960 was one of the news outlets or outlets online that 571 00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:40.440 the Biden administration wanted to censor in conjunction with people 572 00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:47.039 like Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook. Of course, no satire when 573 00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:49.519 it comes to COVID please, yes, we will not be 574 00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:52.960 allowed to laugh. We've got vaccine patents to protect you 575 00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:56.800 will stop stop laughing and like it. Fauci has money 576 00:38:56.840 --> 00:39:00.400 to earn from his royalties. Yes, well, today's been Babylon 577 00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:05.559 b totally divorced of that. Here's the headline. This is 578 00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:08.559 from last week. Do you have what it takes to 579 00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:13.840 be the bass player at church? The nine qualifications? Again, 580 00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:18.320 I'm not slamming bass players at church. The Babylon b is. 581 00:39:18.360 --> 00:39:21.679 I've seen a few, all right. Number one, you must 582 00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:25.280 have access to a bass makes sense. That's probably the 583 00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:29.039 most important one, and I'll agree with that. Two at 584 00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:31.760 least two fingers, so you can play both of the 585 00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:36.480 notes basses play during each song. Not a lot of 586 00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:39.840 love for bassis. No, never heard of a sharp or 587 00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:42.440 a flat. In fact, the inability to hear sharps and 588 00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:48.599 flats is even better. Ability to nod head slowly extra 589 00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:52.000 points if you can kind of sigh yes Lord under 590 00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:57.239 your breath without the lead singer hearing you. Ability to 591 00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:01.280 count to four, This one's crucial. Vowed number to venture 592 00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:04.119 into the D or G strings. That would be like 593 00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:08.360 heresy by but way worse numbers. I love this one. 594 00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:15.280 Pete can play Smoke on the Water, absolutely classic, absolutely necessary. 595 00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:20.239 Number eight the qualifications to be a bass player at 596 00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:23.480 church in a church praise bander with number eight poor 597 00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:26.159 personal hygiene. Get this one right and they'll give you 598 00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:30.800 your own little c through plastic cage on stage. So cruel. 599 00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:36.000 That's rough. And number nine no discernible music skills. Skills 600 00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:39.639 really just get in the way. The thing about I 601 00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:43.280 love about the Babylon b is that they cut everybody. 602 00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:47.599 Oh yeah, yeah. They have a great self deprecating sense 603 00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:50.280 of humor. For everybody, you know, I mean, no, there's 604 00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:51.519 no target off limits. 605 00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:53.880 This is what the first amendment in the Bill of 606 00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:56.800 Rights who are Constitution is all about is freedom of speech. 607 00:40:57.079 --> 00:41:00.639 And some people can find that speech events. Maybe people 608 00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:03.199 who go to church and love their praise band or 609 00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:05.719 bass players, they could find that offensive. I understand, I 610 00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:06.079 get you. 611 00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:09.079 I can enjoy it, and because maybe they've been to 612 00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:11.480 a lot of different churches and seen that bass player. 613 00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:18.360 So the point though, there being is that we know 614 00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:22.719 now at least from the testimony of Mark Zuckerberg last week, 615 00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:27.920 that yes, they did bend to government pressure to censor 616 00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:32.199 some speech, and it really reared its ugly head during 617 00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:38.039 COVID interacted. You can't take ivermectin, You're going to turn 618 00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:39.880 into a horse, and all the other things that they 619 00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:44.480 said that was that was nonsense, It was rubbish. Their 620 00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:49.159 line of truth was the actual disinformation. 621 00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:52.000 To inject themselves with bleach. That was another one. Never 622 00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:55.079 said that. Now that was allowed, but if you made 623 00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:57.760 fun of it, no you could not. I mean the 624 00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:00.559 whole thing, not only just the COVID thing, which still 625 00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:04.760 rankles and it is an outrage really, but also the election. 626 00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:09.840 What happened with the laptop story is still unbelievable. This 627 00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:12.639 was one of the biggest frauds perpetrated by our media, 628 00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:15.239 and it was done by Facebook. It was done with 629 00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:19.519 the cooperation and instigation of the White House. And if 630 00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:22.840 that had been if the media had done its job 631 00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:27.199 to investigate that, you would have unraveled and exposed the 632 00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:31.760 entire Biden crime family closet would have been opened wide 633 00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:34.360 for all to see, and voters would have been able 634 00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:38.559 to make an informed choice between those two candidates. And 635 00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:41.039 I have no doubt and the polls prove it that 636 00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:43.880 the election result would have been entirely different. So what 637 00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:48.840 we see here was that the Democratic Party and its 638 00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:52.320 friends and accomplices and in the media and in Facebook 639 00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:55.960 rigged an election. Yeah, there's no other way to put it. No, 640 00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:58.800 they rigged an election. And you don't have to get 641 00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:01.280 into all the mail in ballots and all the rest 642 00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:04.599 of these stolen election arguments. All you need to know 643 00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:07.559 is what the media did, with the aid of Facebook 644 00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:11.960 and the deep state to suppress the laptop story and 645 00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:16.880 to marginalize and censor The New York Post, for example, 646 00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:22.320 because that was the only mainstream media platform that was 647 00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:24.519 doing anything with it, and there you have. 648 00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:28.400 You rigged your stolen election. And they bumped the New 649 00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:33.079 York Post story right off of Facebook. Yes, yes, it 650 00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:34.840 was not even allowed. You weren't even allowed to talk 651 00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:39.480 about it. I know. It's just to me. I mean, 652 00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:43.960 if you violate the First Amendment, if you're the government 653 00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:50.440 and you take away through coercion, the right to have 654 00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:56.719 freedom and dissemination of information just because it doesn't parrot 655 00:43:56.840 --> 00:43:57.800 your party. 656 00:43:57.559 --> 00:44:00.719 Line exactly, that is that is direct violate. 657 00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:05.000 It's unconstituted totalitarianism. It's illegal supposedly in this. 658 00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:08.360 Totalitarianism, if the government gets to decide what speech is 659 00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:11.880 allowed and what isn't. It's the First Amendment is first 660 00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:14.880 for a reason. Yes, that's the one on which all 661 00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:18.159 the others are are based on, based on Without that, 662 00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:21.239 you have no other rights. They can all be taken 663 00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:24.119 from you because then they can manipulate what you think, 664 00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:26.719 what you hear, what is true, and what is not. 665 00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:30.519 They if the government gets to decide that, with the 666 00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:36.360 disgraceful complicity of our lapdog media, then you don't have 667 00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:37.239 a free country. 668 00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:40.599 Anymore, you know. And I'm not gonna go too long 669 00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:43.960 with this, Peter, but I don't want to sound like 670 00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:50.800 I'm to iHeartMedia, but all during COVID, from the very 671 00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:55.119 from like late March of twenty twenty, after we've just 672 00:44:55.199 --> 00:45:02.079 been locked down, through the election, through all of the 673 00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:07.960 Biden scandals, through all of the obvious Harris flaws, I 674 00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:13.119 have not been told once that I cannot say these things, 675 00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:18.119 state my opinions, and have guests on that have contrary opinions. 676 00:45:18.519 --> 00:45:21.679 So I just want to again thank the powers that 677 00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:23.880 be that are in charge here for allowing me to 678 00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:26.440 do that, because you weren't allowed to do that in 679 00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:28.800 a lot of other spaces in this country, and you 680 00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:29.679 still aren't. 681 00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:33.239 In some in the media Ben diagram or circular Earth 682 00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:34.079 Van diagrams. 683 00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:37.000 I love a ven diagram. Hey. Circles. 684 00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:40.920 Yes, we'll just take one circle here, okay, and say 685 00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:46.679 that in all of the media, talk radio and conservative 686 00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:49.559 websites represent a very small. 687 00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:52.239 Slice of little piece of pie, and the. 688 00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:55.199 Rest of it is mainstream or legacy media, whatever you 689 00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:59.199 want to call it, or the fraud media, the fake news, 690 00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:05.000 and that is all begun to be basically propaganda for 691 00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:08.679 the far left or at least the Democratic Party. 692 00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:10.599 And it seems to me like some of that is 693 00:46:10.679 --> 00:46:11.679 unwinding now. 694 00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:15.360 I think it is because people are voting with their 695 00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:20.599 checkbooks and they're refusing to support people are the media 696 00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:23.840 with They're no longer getting subscribers. Look what's happening. They're 697 00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:28.199 laying off people in droves. Newspapers. The whole newspaper industry 698 00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:33.000 is basically collapsed because in part because of this, I 699 00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:34.840 saw it happen while I was working. 700 00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:37.559 More about the media and the election we're going to 701 00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:42.760 see in two months. Coming up, it's Labor Day, Gary, Jeff, 702 00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:47.320 and our guest is Peter Bronson. Yeah, here we are 703 00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:51.360 on Labor Day once again, rejoining us as Peter Bronson 704 00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:55.719 and Pete We we kind of delved into the media 705 00:46:56.000 --> 00:46:58.360 in the last segment, and I want to get a 706 00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:01.519 little bit deeper into it. Well that's my wheelhouse, you know. 707 00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:04.079 I know, I spent my entire career in newspapers, a 708 00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:08.119 little bit of TV, some radio, magazines, and now publishing. 709 00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:09.679 What was your first newspaper job. 710 00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:13.960 My first newspaper job was at the Onaway Outlook, which 711 00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:18.280 was way up north by the Macanaw Bridge in Onaway, Michigan, 712 00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:21.159 which I called on a Way to Nowhere. 713 00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:28.360 Well, you are clever so no, so from there you went. 714 00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:32.039 From there, I went back to the Greater Lansing area, 715 00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:34.480 where I worked for a chain of newspapers around Lansing 716 00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:37.159 and East Lansing. I'd grown up in East Lansing and 717 00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:41.559 did that until I was I landed a job in Cassa, 718 00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:45.440 Grand Arizona, and moved out to Arizona in nineteen eighty. 719 00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:48.480 Three, long away from Upper Michigan. It was bold to 720 00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:49.039 lave me. 721 00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:52.639 We just had our first child, and Kathy and I 722 00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:56.360 decided that, hey, let's go for it. Michigan was in 723 00:47:56.559 --> 00:48:00.719 terrible shape. We had double digit unemployment, we had terrible 724 00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:02.960 interest rates. So we went out to Arizona and a boy, 725 00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:04.519 that was one of the greatest things I ever is 726 00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:08.320 during the Carter administration would have been in nineteen eighty three, Okay, 727 00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:11.599 so right early years of Reagan, right before Reagan's tax 728 00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:14.480 cuts kicked in. It exactly helped solve some of those 729 00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:15.679 problems out in Arizona. 730 00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:17.320 They called us the black tag. 731 00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:22.599 People because we were fleeing the Midwest and the rust Belt. 732 00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:27.519 All right, so you're in Arizona and then you finally 733 00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:29.760 migrated back up this way to success. 734 00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:32.480 So from Cassi grand I moved down to Tucson, where 735 00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:36.280 I became editorial page editor and columnist at the Tucson Citizen, 736 00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:41.599 which was a daily afternoon daily. Really fun there. Boy, 737 00:48:41.639 --> 00:48:43.400 did we have a lot of fun newspaper and at 738 00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:46.159 that place a lot of good friends there. Still go 739 00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:48.159 back to Tucson quite a bit because I love it. 740 00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:53.039 Great city. And then in ninety two I was hired 741 00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:57.000 to become editorial page editor at the Cincinnati Acquire, where 742 00:48:57.039 --> 00:48:59.199 I had a run for almost twenty years. 743 00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:02.119 As an editor and columnist. Marvelous run. Yeah, it was 744 00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:05.400 so much fun. And you were here during the Timothy 745 00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:08.440 Thomas riots. And that led to the Behind the Lines 746 00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:12.519 book about the police collaborative, Yes, which was it resulted 747 00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:13.480 out of that, which. 748 00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:17.480 Was done kind of at my own peril, because as 749 00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:21.039 I wrote the book, I presented a totally different point 750 00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:25.440 of view of events by interviewing the police than what 751 00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:27.880 was presented in the pages of our own pape. Sure, 752 00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:31.920 so here's this contrarian version where the police get to 753 00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:33.360 have their side of the story told. 754 00:49:33.400 --> 00:49:35.760 Finally, and that did. 755 00:49:35.639 --> 00:49:37.559 Not make me a lot of friends in the newsroom, 756 00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:39.159 as you might be suppecially here. 757 00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:42.639 But hey, oh I was when I'm here in the halls, 758 00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:47.800 I walked past the news department, and they're polite enough 759 00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:48.360 to say hello. 760 00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:51.000 Well, that's more than I can say for some people 761 00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:52.480 in the Acquiring news room. 762 00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:55.440 And then they're probably happy when I closed the door 763 00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:58.519 of the studio, I'm out of their sight. I didn't 764 00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:00.559 wear my Trump Vance shirt here this morning. 765 00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:04.559 So anyway, I always said, if they ever took a vote, 766 00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:06.480 I would have been out of my job there. If 767 00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:10.840 the newsroom voted, if the readers voted, different story landslide 768 00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:14.039 in my favor, because they wanted a different point of view. 769 00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:16.599 They wanted to hear both sides of the story. They 770 00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:20.960 wanted objective reporting. Yeah, not just the dogma of the 771 00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:22.559 left and the Democratic Party. 772 00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:27.400 So the media, this was the I guess the thing 773 00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:29.760 I want to do originally get you with this line 774 00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:36.400 of conversation, Peter. The media needs this election to be close. 775 00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:40.280 They need to keep calling it razor thin margin. They 776 00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:44.000 need to have the the back and forth. They need 777 00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:48.719 to have the anxiousness from their listeners or viewers, because 778 00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:52.920 it fuels the campaign money machine on both sides. Then 779 00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:55.400 it fuels support of the media, and it fuels support 780 00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:58.480 of the media, the clicks and the eyeballs, they get 781 00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:01.320 the attention that they crave so much. Being a member 782 00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:04.800 of the media, yes, we're guilty of craving attention. That's 783 00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:08.199 why we're on the radio, I understand. But they have 784 00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:10.960 taken it to a whole new level in this presidential 785 00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:14.079 election year. But it happens almost in every presidential election. 786 00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:17.599 As you were noting, well, Athadia wants to foster this 787 00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:21.679 notion that it is closer than it actually may be, 788 00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:24.159 and that works for three purposes, the one you mentioned, 789 00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:27.320 which is to monetize anxiety for the media and for 790 00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:28.480 the Democratic Party. 791 00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:32.119 What they do is they make you feel like you 792 00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:35.199 have to stay constantly tuned in because things are happening 793 00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:38.119 right now, as if you have some way to influence it. 794 00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:41.159 You don't sure, but that's how they keep you in 795 00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:44.960 a constant state of anxiety. The second reason is that 796 00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:48.639 if they can figure out a way to steal this 797 00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:52.079 election again, then by saying all the way leading up 798 00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:55.320 that it's very, very close, then it makes it easier 799 00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:58.400 and more palatable for people to accept that no, it 800 00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:00.840 wasn't stolen, it was just a close election that went 801 00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:05.280 their way. So, for example, polls that might show somebody 802 00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:06.519 ten points out. 803 00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:07.800 Well, we can't have that. 804 00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:10.719 We can't have that, So we've got to make it 805 00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:13.199 close enough so that it never looks like it's. 806 00:52:13.039 --> 00:52:15.559 Beyond the margin of fraud. Right. 807 00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:18.599 Yeah, And then of course the third reason is that 808 00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:23.079 they are all in for their side, and this is 809 00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:26.440 what they desperately want to believe and have to believe, 810 00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:33.440 is that they're winning because it is almost an existential 811 00:52:33.639 --> 00:52:36.920 threat to them to have failed and lost an election. 812 00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:40.880 I don't think anybody, I know a lot of people 813 00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:43.559 on both sides are deeply invested in politics, but I 814 00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:49.559 don't think anybody lives and dies for their personal happiness 815 00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:54.360 and worldview as much as the left does in politics. 816 00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:57.960 I know some people who aren't necessarily on the left 817 00:52:58.039 --> 00:53:01.000 or Democrats, but boy, they're pretty they're prett rabbitis they're 818 00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:04.480 pretty rabid. Yes, I've seen a lot of near foaming 819 00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:06.800 at the mouth. Oh, definitely when you get to and 820 00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:08.000 it's on both sides. 821 00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:08.440 Yeah. 822 00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:11.159 You mentioned that they did this with the the election 823 00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:15.159 with John Kerry. Yes, they said, Michael Decaucus, go back to. 824 00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:17.480 The other elections and they'll they'll show you polling that 825 00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:20.400 says Walter Mondale is going to win all the way 826 00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:22.719 up until the final week, and all of a sudden 827 00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:25.119 the polls flip and say, no, it's going to be Reagan. 828 00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:27.440 So what they can do is that that helps to 829 00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:31.280 suppress the vote because it makes Republicans discourage They say, 830 00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:34.960 Walter Mondale's gonna win, why should I vote it? But 831 00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:38.000 it also it gives them a chance to go back 832 00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:40.760 after the election when everybody looks at it and said, 833 00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:43.000 wait a minute, you said Mondale's no. No, we had 834 00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:44.519 it right. We had it right in the last week 835 00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:47.880 before the election. So I've seen this happen. It's just 836 00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:53.920 it's it's transparently dishonest. I don't have much confidence in 837 00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:57.119 polls of any kind anymore. I think they can if 838 00:53:57.159 --> 00:54:00.480 you dive deep down into the questions and the methody, 839 00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:03.400 you can always find where the thumb is on the 840 00:54:03.440 --> 00:54:06.360 scale to push the answers in the direction that they want. 841 00:54:06.519 --> 00:54:10.679 Well, both parties, both candidates have internal polling which they 842 00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:15.480 don't release to the public, so they know what's really 843 00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:18.960 going on right now. The Hairs campaign and the Trump 844 00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:23.239 campaign both understand where the country's at. And I have 845 00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:27.519 a prediction. Okay, what's that. And I've felt this way 846 00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:35.960 for probably I mean even since the DNC and they 847 00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:41.960 just anointed Kamala to be the standard bearer. I think 848 00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:47.199 it's not even close. And when I say not even close, 849 00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:52.639 I'm talking about electoral college landslide for Donald Trump. I really, 850 00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:56.840 I've just I've had this feeling. I've been wrong before. 851 00:54:57.079 --> 00:55:00.000 I could be wrong this time. Okay, anybody holds me 852 00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:01.719 my feet to the fire, I'll say, yeah, I'll admit 853 00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:05.639 I said this, you know, on on Labor Day that 854 00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:12.880 I think it's going to be a massive rejection of 855 00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:17.559 the last four years and the lack of direction of 856 00:55:17.599 --> 00:55:20.760 what the Democrats are offering, or because I don't think 857 00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:25.280 Kamala Harris has any clue and her position is on 858 00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:28.480 anything when she's already flip flopped on the no tax 859 00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:30.920 on tips thing and at the border and all of 860 00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:31.480 the rest of this. 861 00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:35.679 It's a it's a stealth candidacy again, just like Biden 862 00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:38.880 in the basement, so people can fill in the blank 863 00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:41.440 and believe what they want to. I would say that 864 00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:45.679 I think I would hope and pray you're right, because 865 00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:49.800 I don't think this country can stand by and ratify 866 00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:57.039 open borders rise and crime. Horrible week, foreign policy surrender, Yeah, 867 00:55:57.119 --> 00:56:03.800 surrender in Afghanistan, a terrible economy, a cratering economy, increases 868 00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:08.760 in taxes again, reckless, profligate spending. I don't think this 869 00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:11.519 country can ratify that. I don't want to believe that 870 00:56:11.599 --> 00:56:15.400 we would ratify all that, plus the social agenda that 871 00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:19.960 we see on the left of basically child abuse with 872 00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:23.239 the things that they are ratifying and they want to 873 00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:27.760 see happen with children making chan decisions at the age 874 00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:30.320 of ten to make sex changes him. 875 00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:33.800 All frames that as mind your own business. Well, then 876 00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:37.400 why is the government getting involved? Yeah, with signing bills 877 00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:43.000 that allow tampons in boys' bathrooms, unlimited abortion, unlimited unfettered abortion. 878 00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:44.960 Yes, I mean all of this. I just don't think 879 00:56:45.079 --> 00:56:50.159 this country is that country. However, there is. We've become 880 00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:54.480 so tribal that there are people who would vote for anything, 881 00:56:54.840 --> 00:56:57.480 and I mean anything, And Kamala Harris fits that bill 882 00:56:57.599 --> 00:57:00.440 because she is nothing at this point. You don't know 883 00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:04.440 anything about her except what her aids sometimes at anyone 884 00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:07.800 but Trump exactly. So they will vote for anything, any 885 00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:12.000 empty suit or pants suit in her case, any empty 886 00:57:12.039 --> 00:57:14.079 pants suit before they would vote for Trump. So I 887 00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:17.119 think that we do have a nation that's kind of 888 00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:18.840 split on the fault. 889 00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:21.239 Line in it. It's you're never going to bring those 890 00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:24.239 people around, Peter. It's all was a joy to have you, 891 00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:26.400 Glad to be here with you as always. All right, 892 00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:30.360 we continue Gary jeff on Labor Day, if on Labor 893 00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:35.239 Day for Brian Thomas in the aftermath of one of 894 00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:43.400 the biggest celebrations anywhere in the country in a metropolitan area, 895 00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:49.320 Riverfests yesterday and last night highlighted and capped off with 896 00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:55.159 the main event, the Western and Southern WEBN fireworks, which 897 00:57:55.199 --> 00:57:58.519 of course I did not see. In fact, for those 898 00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:03.679 of us who do part time radio for the most part, 899 00:58:03.719 --> 00:58:08.199 like myself, you kind of live for the holidays because 900 00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:11.239 hopefully the host will take off and you can take 901 00:58:11.280 --> 00:58:16.360 advantage and fill that slot. And so thus here I am. 902 00:58:16.639 --> 00:58:20.559 But that the caveat in all of that is you 903 00:58:20.599 --> 00:58:25.679 don't get to stay up late. Certainly you don't want to. 904 00:58:25.840 --> 00:58:29.360 I mean some people do. I think they're insane for 905 00:58:29.480 --> 00:58:32.280 doing it, for trying to do it. But you don't 906 00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:35.639 stay up for the fireworks. And I did have one 907 00:58:35.800 --> 00:58:41.679 eye open on the TV in the bedroom the other 908 00:58:41.719 --> 00:58:44.559 eye was closed on the pillow. I did see the 909 00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:48.280 opening of the Western and Southern Web and fireworks last night. 910 00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:49.960 I don't know if you got to witness them on 911 00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:53.440 TV or in person. And if you were watching them 912 00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:58.559 in person, what are you doing up? Like me? You 913 00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:04.800 had to work today Labor Day. But the drone show 914 00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:11.559 that they put on the first ever time as part 915 00:59:11.559 --> 00:59:19.320 of a fireworks celebration at Riverfest was phenomenal. And I'm 916 00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:23.000 an old school guy. I like my incendiary devices. I 917 00:59:23.079 --> 00:59:27.519 like to watch stuff blow up, and I will, hopefully 918 00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:32.039 for many years into the future. But the drone thing, 919 00:59:33.559 --> 00:59:37.199 the things that they can do with the technology that 920 00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:45.000 is available are horrific sometimes, but they're also you know, 921 00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:47.719 there are those moments where you just stare and wonder 922 00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:51.760 and go, wow, what's next? But that was really good 923 00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:56.480 last night. I saw that much of it. I didn't 924 00:59:56.880 --> 01:00:02.800 I DVR the incendiary devices. Sadly, there's another side of 925 01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:07.400 the coin. On a big celebratory night like it was 926 01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:11.880 last night in Cincinnati. In northern Kentucky, there was a 927 01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:17.239 woman shot at the Banks. Female victim taken to Children's 928 01:00:17.239 --> 01:00:22.480 hospital last night following a shooting around eleven thirty near 929 01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:25.480 Great American Ballpark and the more Line Loggerhouse at the Banks. 930 01:00:27.639 --> 01:00:30.239 Authority said the female victim was taking a children's hospital. 931 01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:33.480 Victim's condition remains unclear as of six point thirty four 932 01:00:33.519 --> 01:00:41.440 and this Monday morning. The violence continues, and I am 933 01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:43.320 told by people in the know that it happens a 934 01:00:43.320 --> 01:00:47.360 whole lot more than it's even reported. Especially in this 935 01:00:47.519 --> 01:00:54.199 town of Chicago. They can't hide it, but in Cincinnati 936 01:00:55.599 --> 01:00:58.440 they can get around it. I'm not saying that they 937 01:00:58.519 --> 01:01:00.639 do that on a regular basis, but I have been 938 01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:07.719 told by other people that the occurrences of violence, especially 939 01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:12.679 in that downtown area, and the city fathers not only 940 01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:17.440 have a moral obligation to put the criminal, to put 941 01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:19.599 and keep the criminals in jail because most of this 942 01:01:19.719 --> 01:01:27.519 is recidivist or its gang related, but there's also a financial, 943 01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:35.320 a great financial benefit to keeping us safe. And so 944 01:01:35.400 --> 01:01:38.480 the pressure should come not only from ordinary citizens like 945 01:01:38.519 --> 01:01:44.400 you and me, asking that prosecutors prosecute properly and put 946 01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:48.000 people in jail when they belong in jail and out 947 01:01:48.039 --> 01:01:50.960 of society, that the police are able to do their 948 01:01:51.079 --> 01:01:58.039 job and arrest the perpetrators, and that the community community 949 01:01:58.079 --> 01:02:06.360 participates by giving the police information. But again another shooting 950 01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:10.280 last night at the banks. In the midst of all 951 01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:16.679 of that, revelry sad six thirty six Sheriff Richard Mack. 952 01:02:16.719 --> 01:02:20.119 You know, sheriffs are on the front line of defending 953 01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:24.440 not only our safety and our property, but the constitution. 954 01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:29.840 And a guy who firmly believes that, retired Sheriff Richard 955 01:02:29.960 --> 01:02:33.599 Mack will join us as we continue this Labor Day show. 956 01:02:33.920 --> 01:02:36.119 It's six thirty six at fifty five KRC. 957 01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:40.239 The talk states, this is fifty five KRC and iHeartRadio station. 958 01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:52.440 Oh the sharp being has such team and his shows. 959 01:02:52.559 --> 01:02:58.679 Then early it is Gary jeffon Labor Day and our 960 01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:04.519 next guest. He is well, he's not only was the 961 01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:07.519 long arm of the law for many many years, but 962 01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:11.079 he is still fighting for all of our constitutional rights 963 01:03:11.639 --> 01:03:15.360 and he's been a constitutional freedom fighter. I would say 964 01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:20.880 his name is Sheriff Richard Mack. First and foremost, Welcome 965 01:03:20.920 --> 01:03:22.880 to the program. Sheriff Mac, how are you. 966 01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:27.679 Thank you so much. Gary, It's great to be with you. 967 01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:31.079 I'm doing great and I wish America was. 968 01:03:32.119 --> 01:03:35.679 Yeah, you've certainly been doing your part. From what I 969 01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:38.480 have learned about in what I knew about you before 970 01:03:38.519 --> 01:03:43.039 we sat down for this chat. Coming up at the 971 01:03:43.119 --> 01:03:47.960 end of this week this Friday and Saturday in Orlando, Florida, 972 01:03:48.320 --> 01:03:52.320 is the Foundation for Freedom conference that you are heading up. 973 01:03:52.440 --> 01:03:55.800 And the call has been out to invite patriots, leaders, 974 01:03:55.840 --> 01:03:58.880 sheriffs from all around the country, and elected officials to 975 01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:02.920 come into participated and speakers from across the nation will 976 01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:06.239 be there to help himpower and revive our country one 977 01:04:06.440 --> 01:04:10.679 county at a time, which has been your hallmark as 978 01:04:10.719 --> 01:04:15.320 a sheriff. First and foremost, tell me, Sheriff mac where 979 01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:18.039 you were sheriff in Arizona. What county? 980 01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:23.639 Okay, it was Graham, like Graham Cracker, gotcha. And that's 981 01:04:23.679 --> 01:04:27.039 in the southeast part of the state. And it's just 982 01:04:27.239 --> 01:04:32.320 one county above the border the Mexican border. Only Cochise 983 01:04:32.400 --> 01:04:35.400 County separates Graham County from the border. 984 01:04:36.280 --> 01:04:41.320 What's amazing to me is that in this current presidential campaign, 985 01:04:42.159 --> 01:04:45.559 you have one side now saying a person who said, 986 01:04:46.119 --> 01:04:49.360 not one wall of border mile, not one mile of 987 01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:52.079 border wall will ever, not one foot will be built. 988 01:04:52.639 --> 01:04:55.440 And this was her assertion all along, and they stopped 989 01:04:55.480 --> 01:05:00.239 President Trump's plans to help protect our southern border with 990 01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:03.199 that wall and the other policies that President Trump had 991 01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:08.880 in place when he was our chief executive, our commander 992 01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:15.719 Wall was there down exactly and selling the scrap for 993 01:05:16.199 --> 01:05:19.679 you know, selling the rusted out wall that they left 994 01:05:19.719 --> 01:05:24.199 there for junk. So anyway, they've already wasted all that money, 995 01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:28.679 wasted our time, and in the meantime allowed our country 996 01:05:29.119 --> 01:05:34.000 to be well borderless essentially, except for people like you 997 01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:37.519 and other sheriffs who are on the front lines of 998 01:05:37.559 --> 01:05:39.599 this every day. And you want to talk about on 999 01:05:39.639 --> 01:05:42.800 the front lines. You're one county from the Mexican border 1000 01:05:43.280 --> 01:05:47.440 in Graham County, Arizona. But now, of course, because of 1001 01:05:47.480 --> 01:05:52.000 the Biden Harris administrations want to and an ability to 1002 01:05:52.239 --> 01:05:58.280 fly these foreign criminal trespassers in on airplanes and bust 1003 01:05:58.360 --> 01:06:02.079 them all over the country after they cross illegally on 1004 01:06:02.119 --> 01:06:05.280 our southern border to cities all over America. I heard 1005 01:06:05.320 --> 01:06:09.280 an interview this week with a woman in Aurora, Colorado, 1006 01:06:09.840 --> 01:06:13.440 that's quite a ways from the southern border, and the 1007 01:06:13.639 --> 01:06:17.559 entire she said, entire city blocks have been taken over 1008 01:06:17.639 --> 01:06:22.559 by this violent Venezuelan gang. And I'm not sure of 1009 01:06:22.599 --> 01:06:24.719 the name of this game. It really doesn't matter what 1010 01:06:24.800 --> 01:06:27.840 the name is. They're criminals and they've been allowed to 1011 01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:31.800 come into this country and break our laws. And now 1012 01:06:32.079 --> 01:06:36.360 they're breaking the laws in Aurora, Colorado and one hundred 1013 01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:41.599 other cities across this country. Why has this been allowed 1014 01:06:41.599 --> 01:06:44.400 to happen? And you say sheriffs can play a key role, 1015 01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:47.719 and they have. In Florida, forty four out of sixty 1016 01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:51.880 seven counties, the sheriffs have said, you know, our constitution 1017 01:06:52.599 --> 01:06:57.679 is more important than your illegal, unconstitutional federal dictates. And 1018 01:06:57.719 --> 01:07:02.480 you had a great success in eliminating as far as 1019 01:07:02.519 --> 01:07:07.440 our Second Amendment rights, our constitutionally god given Second Amendment 1020 01:07:07.519 --> 01:07:11.880 rights of carrying firearms. You had this big victory at 1021 01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:15.719 the Supreme Court. But tell me how sheriffs are actually 1022 01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:20.960 in where they have the courage and they have the 1023 01:07:21.079 --> 01:07:26.960 constitutional conviction to fight what the federal government has allowed 1024 01:07:27.159 --> 01:07:30.159 in having our laws broken over and over and over 1025 01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:34.039 again by millions. What are sheriffs doing and what can 1026 01:07:34.119 --> 01:07:35.840 sheriffs do in each county? 1027 01:07:37.280 --> 01:07:41.000 Well, first of all, the sheriff is the clio and 1028 01:07:41.119 --> 01:07:44.719 in my Supreme Court case, and people need to know this. 1029 01:07:44.719 --> 01:07:47.880 This is the only time in history where a couple 1030 01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:50.119 of sheriffs sued the federal government, took it all the 1031 01:07:50.119 --> 01:07:53.400 way to the Supreme Court and won against the overreach 1032 01:07:53.559 --> 01:07:58.639 of the Clinton administration. So one of my favorite clips 1033 01:07:58.840 --> 01:08:02.880 is I sued the Clintons and lived to tell about it, 1034 01:08:03.400 --> 01:08:07.239 and knowing that we beat them. And so the thing 1035 01:08:07.239 --> 01:08:09.679 of it is that the federal government will continue to 1036 01:08:09.679 --> 01:08:13.239 do whatever it wants until somebody says, you're not doing 1037 01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:15.880 that here and the constitution does not allow you to 1038 01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:19.600 do that. And I'm sworn to upholl and defend the constitution. 1039 01:08:19.840 --> 01:08:22.640 And just because you don't doesn't mean I'm going to 1040 01:08:22.720 --> 01:08:26.960 go along with you. Quite to the contrary, I will 1041 01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:29.880 defend the Constitution, I will keep my oath of office, 1042 01:08:30.159 --> 01:08:34.039 and I will protect the civil rights. Has anybody heard 1043 01:08:34.079 --> 01:08:38.279 of civil rights lately? Martin Luther King's civil rights battle? 1044 01:08:38.359 --> 01:08:42.399 You know, our organization really pushes for civil rights for 1045 01:08:42.479 --> 01:08:46.399 all people, and yet I get attacked for that all 1046 01:08:46.399 --> 01:08:49.439 the time that we don't follow the you know, we 1047 01:08:49.479 --> 01:08:53.720 don't care about people, and we're racist and we're bigots 1048 01:08:53.760 --> 01:08:57.520 and all this other stuff. And these are supposedly people 1049 01:08:57.520 --> 01:09:03.279 who really care about stuff popping racism and violence, and 1050 01:09:03.840 --> 01:09:07.279 we actually really do that. But these other groups attack 1051 01:09:07.439 --> 01:09:12.279 us because they said we're extremists and violent. We have 1052 01:09:12.439 --> 01:09:17.640 never espoused or advocated violence of any kind. We've never 1053 01:09:17.720 --> 01:09:20.840 committed an act of violence of any kind. And in 1054 01:09:20.920 --> 01:09:24.439 twenty years of law enforcement, I never committed an act 1055 01:09:24.439 --> 01:09:27.600 of violence. And now these groups want to say that 1056 01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:30.800 I'm a domestic terrorist who are violent. And even one 1057 01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:32.840 of them is the Southern probably Law Center, and their 1058 01:09:32.920 --> 01:09:38.039 lawyer was arrested recently in Atlanta for domestic terrorism. Nobody 1059 01:09:38.039 --> 01:09:40.399 in our group has ever been arrested for that, but 1060 01:09:40.760 --> 01:09:44.600 they do. But the key component of your question is this. 1061 01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:49.720 The sheriff is the ultimate protector of the people. The 1062 01:09:49.760 --> 01:09:54.159 Supreme Court case called us who sued the federal government. 1063 01:09:54.760 --> 01:09:58.079 They called us the khlios the chief law enforcement officer. 1064 01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:03.079 And indeed, your sheriff is the ultimate law enforcement authority 1065 01:10:03.239 --> 01:10:07.000 in your county and in this country. And another reason 1066 01:10:07.039 --> 01:10:10.439 why he is is because he reports directly to you. 1067 01:10:10.920 --> 01:10:14.640 He does not report to another bureaucrat, to another politician, 1068 01:10:15.279 --> 01:10:19.159 or to a county manager or town manager. His only boss. 1069 01:10:19.239 --> 01:10:23.479 Now get this, folks, his only boss is you. We 1070 01:10:23.680 --> 01:10:27.239 the people in your county, are the boss of the sheriff. 1071 01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:29.800 And every four years, we determine if we want to 1072 01:10:29.880 --> 01:10:33.319 keep him, if he's been doing his job, we decide, 1073 01:10:33.840 --> 01:10:38.039 and we delegate that power to be our CLEO. He 1074 01:10:38.159 --> 01:10:39.399 gets that power from us. 1075 01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:40.840 Yeah, THEFF. 1076 01:10:40.840 --> 01:10:44.000 That's why he's important. That's why he's such an important position. 1077 01:10:44.119 --> 01:10:47.479 The sheriff of Hamilton County does not report to the mayor. 1078 01:10:47.840 --> 01:10:51.840 It doesn't report to the council. And I think that 1079 01:10:51.880 --> 01:10:56.239 the sheriff of Hamilton County, Ohio ought to remember that. Uh. 1080 01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:59.680 And Uh Richard K. Jones, who's the sheriff of Butler County. 1081 01:10:59.720 --> 01:11:02.760 That's a guy who's got some Yeah. 1082 01:11:03.079 --> 01:11:08.479 I saw him come out on the news about COVID stuff. 1083 01:11:08.520 --> 01:11:12.359 And we had a probably five hundred and fifty different 1084 01:11:12.359 --> 01:11:16.800 sheriff's nationwide who stood against the COVID mandates, and God 1085 01:11:16.840 --> 01:11:19.560 bless every one of them for doing it. And we've 1086 01:11:19.560 --> 01:11:23.840 had you alluded to the Second Amendment. We have had 1087 01:11:23.920 --> 01:11:28.119 twice sheriffs take a very strong stand against the White 1088 01:11:28.119 --> 01:11:33.279 House and against Washington d c moves to make local 1089 01:11:33.319 --> 01:11:37.680 citizens criminals just for owning a gun. And so sheriffs 1090 01:11:37.720 --> 01:11:42.039 have stood against that. Our case stayed the Second Amendments, 1091 01:11:42.279 --> 01:11:45.960 and our case stopped other legislation that was going to 1092 01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:50.199 be passed because we've won on Brady Bill one and 1093 01:11:50.279 --> 01:11:53.399 the Brady Built movement named for James Brady, who was 1094 01:11:53.439 --> 01:11:55.960 the press secretary of Ronald Reagan who got shot during 1095 01:11:56.359 --> 01:12:01.079 the assassination attempt on Reagan in March of nineteen eighty one. 1096 01:12:01.760 --> 01:12:04.520 We found out after Brady Bill one that we beat 1097 01:12:05.039 --> 01:12:07.840 Brady Bill's two, three, four, and five. All got stopped 1098 01:12:08.079 --> 01:12:12.840 because a couple of sheriffs beat number one at the 1099 01:12:12.960 --> 01:12:16.439 US Supreme Court. And so sheriffs have been doing a 1100 01:12:16.479 --> 01:12:19.960 lot to save America. And we we love it when 1101 01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:24.279 sheriffs take a stand, and it's called interposition. We're not 1102 01:12:24.399 --> 01:12:27.600 talking about a physical fight with the federal government. We're 1103 01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:31.319 talking about standing in the way, which is interposition. 1104 01:12:31.479 --> 01:12:33.640 All right, hang on and sheriff, Sheriff Max, that's what 1105 01:12:33.680 --> 01:12:35.840 our job is. We're going to talk more about this 1106 01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:37.439 in just a moment. I've got to take a real 1107 01:12:37.520 --> 01:12:41.199 quick break and we'll come back. Okay, you got it. 1108 01:12:41.479 --> 01:12:44.720 You got a sheriff Richard Mack. It's Gary jeff on 1109 01:12:44.800 --> 01:12:49.960 Labor Day fifty five the talk station i KRCV Talk 1110 01:12:50.079 --> 01:12:53.399 Station six point fifty three. Gary Jeff on Labor Day 1111 01:12:53.720 --> 01:12:58.279 again for Brian. Sheriff Richard Mack will rejoin us here 1112 01:12:58.319 --> 01:12:59.840 in a few minutes at the top of the hour, 1113 01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:03.680 talking about the border, about COVID mandates, and the Sheriff's role, 1114 01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:07.560 which he says is the most crucial. They are the 1115 01:13:07.560 --> 01:13:13.399 front line of protection of our constitutional rights and the 1116 01:13:13.479 --> 01:13:16.239 right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for 1117 01:13:16.319 --> 01:13:23.600 all American citizens. Wonder how he feels about the unborn. 1118 01:13:24.239 --> 01:13:27.399 I guess they they're not allowed to vote and they 1119 01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:31.039 don't pay taxes, so that means they're not citizens, right. 1120 01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:37.279 I was just thinking the other day about how insane 1121 01:13:37.399 --> 01:13:41.920 it is that in our society, with years of sin 1122 01:13:42.159 --> 01:13:50.119 entitlement via the original passing of the court case of 1123 01:13:50.199 --> 01:13:56.359 Roe v. Wighed back in nineteen seventy three, fifty years 1124 01:13:56.399 --> 01:14:00.920 of tolerating this sin in our day and age. Now 1125 01:14:01.079 --> 01:14:05.520 think about this, and I'm sure you have before. It's 1126 01:14:05.680 --> 01:14:13.600 controversial to tell people that they can't murder another human 1127 01:14:13.640 --> 01:14:20.079 being because the baby is a human being. But that's controversial, 1128 01:14:20.399 --> 01:14:23.960 that's hateful. You don't care about a women's right to 1129 01:14:24.079 --> 01:14:29.199 reproductive care. It's going to be a major thing on 1130 01:14:29.319 --> 01:14:35.680 the ballot in just about sixty days. And it's a 1131 01:14:35.720 --> 01:14:39.760 winning issue for Democrats because they truly are the party 1132 01:14:39.800 --> 01:14:45.279 of death. The party of abortion is the party of death. 1133 01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:51.600 And now that the Supreme Court is ruled and overturned 1134 01:14:51.680 --> 01:14:58.920 Roe v. Wade, it is rightly constitutionally in the hands 1135 01:14:58.960 --> 01:15:03.920 of each individual's date. That's President Trump's position. I respect that, 1136 01:15:05.119 --> 01:15:10.560 But still it's controversial in our day and age, in 1137 01:15:10.600 --> 01:15:17.520 our lifetime that it's controversial to say you can't murder 1138 01:15:17.560 --> 01:15:24.039 another person. How does that ever make sense? How do 1139 01:15:24.119 --> 01:15:29.279 people justify that? It's never It's never made any sense 1140 01:15:29.279 --> 01:15:33.720 to me. But you know, we had this, this malaise 1141 01:15:33.800 --> 01:15:37.920 and this supposed right to kill unborn children for fifty 1142 01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:40.920 years in this country, so I can understand why some 1143 01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:46.800 people are a little bit confused. Six fifty six more 1144 01:15:46.880 --> 01:15:53.680 was shared Richard Mack on how sheriffs in many cases 1145 01:15:53.720 --> 01:15:58.560 are saving their counties and can save this country. It's 1146 01:15:58.640 --> 01:16:01.520 Labor Day. I'm Gary Jay at six fifty six and 1147 01:16:01.680 --> 01:16:12.520 fifty five KRC the talk station as we continue our 1148 01:16:12.640 --> 01:16:18.399 conversation with our lead CLEO. This morning, Sheriff Richard Mack 1149 01:16:19.079 --> 01:16:21.600 joins us and there is a huge conference. First, Sheriff, 1150 01:16:21.640 --> 01:16:24.479 I want to talk about this conference that's coming up 1151 01:16:24.520 --> 01:16:26.960 at the end of this week in Orlando, Florida, where 1152 01:16:26.960 --> 01:16:31.680 you're inviting sheriffs and elected leaders and patriots who care 1153 01:16:31.760 --> 01:16:35.279 about our constitution and our country to gather together for 1154 01:16:35.319 --> 01:16:38.640 this two day event Friday and Saturday this week. Tell 1155 01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:41.800 me a little bit more about the conference, who maybe 1156 01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:45.880 who you've got lined up to come already, and what 1157 01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:47.119 you're expecting out of this. 1158 01:16:48.239 --> 01:16:51.079 Yeah, it's September sixth and seventh, as you mentioned, this 1159 01:16:51.199 --> 01:16:57.399 coming weekend, and we have sheriff's county Commissioners, the Black 1160 01:16:57.479 --> 01:16:59.840 Robe Regiment, which is a group of pastors who believe 1161 01:16:59.840 --> 01:17:05.640 in standing for liberty and standing for civil rights. We've 1162 01:17:05.640 --> 01:17:11.319 got the ApoA, the American Police Officers Alliance CSPOA, our group, 1163 01:17:11.399 --> 01:17:15.640 Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, the Florida Freedom Foundation, 1164 01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:18.680 and there's a lot of people signing up from Florida 1165 01:17:18.720 --> 01:17:21.600 and several sheriffs from Florida and the people who kind of, 1166 01:17:21.800 --> 01:17:25.119 as you alluded to earlier, were creating sanctuary counties for 1167 01:17:25.159 --> 01:17:29.960 our constitution and creating constitutional counties. Those people are going 1168 01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:33.199 to be there, and I believe that's call your county. 1169 01:17:33.760 --> 01:17:36.720 But we have constitutional lawyers who are going to be 1170 01:17:37.119 --> 01:17:40.680 talking about the process and the legality of all of this. 1171 01:17:41.359 --> 01:17:47.640 But the bottom line is we have maintained since I 1172 01:17:47.760 --> 01:17:50.640 was sheriff, I've been fighting for this, and then I 1173 01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:55.000 formed the CSPOA twenty eleven. But we've been saying that 1174 01:17:56.000 --> 01:17:59.640 if the federal government or any other government agent or 1175 01:17:59.640 --> 01:18:04.680 burequet is contrary to the Constitution, that is it is 1176 01:18:04.840 --> 01:18:08.960 not wait and see if the Supreme Court will take 1177 01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:11.960 a case on that. And then even though that's exactly 1178 01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:15.039 what I did, but it's too costly and it's too 1179 01:18:15.079 --> 01:18:19.720 time consuming, And then and by this sixth or seventh year, 1180 01:18:19.880 --> 01:18:22.720 the Supreme Court says, now, I don't guess we'll take it. 1181 01:18:23.279 --> 01:18:26.800 That means the abuse continued all that time and will continue. 1182 01:18:27.520 --> 01:18:32.399 And when when people are being abused and their civil 1183 01:18:32.479 --> 01:18:38.199 rights are being violated, like like like Martin Luther King. 1184 01:18:39.039 --> 01:18:43.239 Martin Luther King was arrested over thirty times by corrupt 1185 01:18:43.239 --> 01:18:47.560 government officials. Okay, let's just be real here. His battle 1186 01:18:48.199 --> 01:18:53.840 was against corrupt government. Donald Trump's battle is the same 1187 01:18:54.159 --> 01:18:58.319 one as Martin Luther King's corrupt government going after him. 1188 01:18:58.640 --> 01:19:03.560 He's been arrested or charged over Yeah, he was arrested 1189 01:19:04.079 --> 01:19:07.680 over three times, just like Martin Luther King. They both 1190 01:19:07.760 --> 01:19:12.159 had the same fight, folks, against corrupt government. Wouldn't it 1191 01:19:12.199 --> 01:19:15.560 have been great if some sheriffs would have said, I'm sorry, 1192 01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:18.079 but you're not going to arrest Martin Luther King this 1193 01:19:18.199 --> 01:19:23.199 time just because he's having a peaceful march or peaceably assembling. 1194 01:19:24.119 --> 01:19:26.840 And same thing with Trump. Some sheriff should have stood 1195 01:19:26.880 --> 01:19:29.279 in the way and said, no, I don't think you're 1196 01:19:29.279 --> 01:19:31.399 going to do that in my county. But I guess 1197 01:19:31.439 --> 01:19:34.119 that would have been Palm Beach County when they went 1198 01:19:34.119 --> 01:19:38.239 through Mari Lago and did all that. But this two 1199 01:19:38.239 --> 01:19:41.399 tier justice system that exists, folks, it's not to take 1200 01:19:41.479 --> 01:19:46.479 to the Supreme Court. It's to stop at the county level. 1201 01:19:46.920 --> 01:19:50.239 And it's something that sheriff should be doing, and it's 1202 01:19:50.239 --> 01:19:52.479 something we promised to do when we took our oath 1203 01:19:52.800 --> 01:19:54.399 of allegiance to the Constitution. 1204 01:19:54.720 --> 01:19:57.279 It's amazing to me, Sheriff Mac, how many times you 1205 01:19:57.319 --> 01:20:00.880 have referenced now taking an oath that you book seriously 1206 01:20:01.079 --> 01:20:07.319 obviously to uphold and defend our constitution. These elected corrupt 1207 01:20:07.319 --> 01:20:12.600 officials take the same oath and it's like it was 1208 01:20:12.720 --> 01:20:15.479 like they just said, yeah, I'll have another glass of water. 1209 01:20:15.960 --> 01:20:19.680 It meant nothing to them. Obviously, by their actions. Actions 1210 01:20:19.720 --> 01:20:25.039 speak volumes way louder than words, and their actions have 1211 01:20:25.199 --> 01:20:32.279 proven them unfit to hold these offices because first thing 1212 01:20:32.319 --> 01:20:34.520 they do when they get into office is violate their oath. 1213 01:20:36.439 --> 01:20:39.520 Yeah, right after they take the oath, they summarily ignore 1214 01:20:39.560 --> 01:20:43.920 it or wittingly violate it. And that's the one thing 1215 01:20:43.960 --> 01:20:46.279 that got to me the most. And that's actually why 1216 01:20:46.319 --> 01:20:51.159 we formed the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, so 1217 01:20:51.199 --> 01:20:54.880 that we could bring attention back to our promise and 1218 01:20:54.920 --> 01:20:59.119 our oath and to our job and responsibility. And that's 1219 01:20:59.119 --> 01:21:02.600 why it's there. And I had a reporter from Michigan 1220 01:21:02.640 --> 01:21:05.960 Common just a couple of weeks ago, and he said, man, 1221 01:21:06.039 --> 01:21:08.560 you've really done a job in Michigan. I said, why 1222 01:21:08.560 --> 01:21:12.000 do you say that? He said, just about every single 1223 01:21:12.039 --> 01:21:16.039 sheriff race in Michigan is talking about constitutional sheriffs and 1224 01:21:16.319 --> 01:21:19.960 which Canada is the most constitutional sheriff. And I said, well, 1225 01:21:19.960 --> 01:21:22.079 that's good to hear. I hope they vote for the 1226 01:21:22.159 --> 01:21:24.359 right one, you know. 1227 01:21:24.880 --> 01:21:28.479 So let me ask you if somebody wants to they've 1228 01:21:28.479 --> 01:21:30.520 got the free time, I don't have the free time 1229 01:21:30.640 --> 01:21:34.800 to fly to Orlando this weekend, although that sounds really nice. 1230 01:21:36.159 --> 01:21:38.760 But if somebody still wants to attend the Foundation for 1231 01:21:38.800 --> 01:21:41.760 Freedom conference coming up on Friday and Saturday this week, 1232 01:21:42.479 --> 01:21:44.319 is there a way? Is there a path for them 1233 01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:45.840 or a website? 1234 01:21:46.079 --> 01:21:46.760 Absolutely? 1235 01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:51.000 And Gary, I will tell you, I will personally comp 1236 01:21:51.079 --> 01:21:54.279 you a hotel room at the hotel that's taking place 1237 01:21:54.319 --> 01:21:58.520 at and that's the Rosen Shingle Creek Hotel in Orlando. 1238 01:21:58.960 --> 01:21:59.800 Pretty nice place. 1239 01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:02.880 If if if I didn't if I did not have 1240 01:22:03.079 --> 01:22:06.119 to work, and if I if I don't work, I 1241 01:22:06.239 --> 01:22:08.760 don't get paid. There's no PTO for ery Jeb. 1242 01:22:10.439 --> 01:22:13.119 Funny thing about that, but if you could make it 1243 01:22:13.319 --> 01:22:17.600 all right, Uh, my offer stands. But everyone should be 1244 01:22:17.680 --> 01:22:21.359 going to our website and and all I all, I know. 1245 01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:25.840 The simple one is CSPO a dot org and at 1246 01:22:25.920 --> 01:22:27.880 that site you can become a member of the c 1247 01:22:28.199 --> 01:22:31.439 SPO a posse and we helped train you to work 1248 01:22:31.479 --> 01:22:34.560 with your sheriff locally. But this event will be all 1249 01:22:34.640 --> 01:22:38.520 about that and more. And that is saving America from 1250 01:22:38.560 --> 01:22:39.159 what's coming. 1251 01:22:39.920 --> 01:22:40.039 Uh. 1252 01:22:40.279 --> 01:22:43.199 And there's intel that there's going to be some real 1253 01:22:43.239 --> 01:22:46.960 attacks on our infrastructure. In October seventh from Hamaque going 1254 01:22:47.039 --> 01:22:49.560 after us one year after the day that they went 1255 01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:53.920 after Israel and killed kids and tortured kids and other 1256 01:22:54.039 --> 01:22:57.720 things that they did. And there's going to be an 1257 01:22:57.760 --> 01:23:01.239 attack from within because that because the open border has 1258 01:23:01.279 --> 01:23:04.359 allowed tens of thousands of terrafts to come into our 1259 01:23:04.399 --> 01:23:07.600 country and they have and they're not here to play tittleweeks, folks. 1260 01:23:08.119 --> 01:23:11.680 They're going to do an attack. An intel has said 1261 01:23:11.880 --> 01:23:14.800 that it's going to be October seventh, but whenever it is, 1262 01:23:15.159 --> 01:23:17.680 I don't care the date, but it's going to happen, 1263 01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:20.720 and we need to be prepared and we need to 1264 01:23:20.800 --> 01:23:22.760 be prepared for the violence that will come as a 1265 01:23:22.840 --> 01:23:28.560 result of the election coming up. What November sixth looks like, 1266 01:23:29.680 --> 01:23:33.279 and we want sheriffs and the public to be prepared. 1267 01:23:33.800 --> 01:23:38.079 How is our infrastructure being protected, the grid, our water 1268 01:23:38.199 --> 01:23:41.680 supplies and so on. Are they being protected? Do we 1269 01:23:41.800 --> 01:23:46.800 really realize that they need protection and they need security. 1270 01:23:47.880 --> 01:23:50.359 But this meeting will be addressing a lot of that 1271 01:23:50.600 --> 01:23:54.520 and a lot more. How we can work we the 1272 01:23:54.600 --> 01:23:58.079 people and keep this a peaceful movement to restore our 1273 01:23:58.159 --> 01:24:02.279 constitution and maintain God given comes to republic. 1274 01:24:02.960 --> 01:24:06.800 Amen Sheriff Richard Mack, thank you so much. Give me 1275 01:24:06.920 --> 01:24:09.520 that that quick little address again. 1276 01:24:10.279 --> 01:24:14.199 Okay, c SPOA dot Org. All right, that's where you 1277 01:24:14.720 --> 01:24:18.079 on the front page. It'll talk about the Freedom Foundation Conference. 1278 01:24:18.680 --> 01:24:22.960 You're all welcome. You get there and you're gonna love it. 1279 01:24:23.119 --> 01:24:26.159 It's it's something that we've got to do. This is 1280 01:24:26.279 --> 01:24:29.920 not a wake up tour meeting. This is a plan 1281 01:24:30.039 --> 01:24:34.359 of action event, and it's go back into your counties, 1282 01:24:34.760 --> 01:24:38.159 talk to your sheriffs and your friends and get your 1283 01:24:38.239 --> 01:24:42.439 posse going and get preparations going for what's coming this fall. 1284 01:24:43.079 --> 01:24:47.520 Sheriff Richard Mac, I pray you're successful because your success 1285 01:24:47.680 --> 01:24:49.279 means survival for our country. 1286 01:24:51.159 --> 01:24:51.239 Right. 1287 01:24:51.359 --> 01:24:53.720 Well, I'm afraid you're right. I'm afraid you're right. This 1288 01:24:53.880 --> 01:24:56.560 is a this is the last ditch, last hope. 1289 01:24:57.039 --> 01:25:01.079 All right, thank you very much, you know, and I'm 1290 01:25:01.119 --> 01:25:02.439 not depressed. I'm encouraged. 1291 01:25:03.479 --> 01:25:03.960 How about that? 1292 01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:08.600 Amen? All right, Sheriff Richard Mack with us. It's Gary 1293 01:25:08.680 --> 01:25:09.720 Jeff on Labor Day. 1294 01:25:09.920 --> 01:25:13.199 This is fifty five KRC and iHeartRadio station. 1295 01:25:15.560 --> 01:25:18.720 I'll tell you what prop those windows open this morning. 1296 01:25:18.800 --> 01:25:22.039 It's nice on our way to seventy nine for a 1297 01:25:22.159 --> 01:25:24.479 high Jemp a lot less human than it has been. 1298 01:25:25.319 --> 01:25:28.239 That's a great thing, and it's a holiday for a 1299 01:25:28.279 --> 01:25:31.720 lot of people. Tomorrow pleasant and eighty and to Wednesday 1300 01:25:31.800 --> 01:25:34.640 we get even warmer. There is a slight chance of 1301 01:25:34.760 --> 01:25:38.000 rain on Friday, and even not enough to make a 1302 01:25:38.039 --> 01:25:40.439 difference then at least the way it looks right now, 1303 01:25:40.960 --> 01:25:45.279 sixty one degrees. And it's time for our next guest 1304 01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:48.680 as we continue on this Monday Labor Day on fifty 1305 01:25:48.760 --> 01:25:56.359 five krc V Talk station. Back to our little special 1306 01:25:56.520 --> 01:25:59.600 show here, Gary Jeff on Labor Day and joining us, 1307 01:26:00.039 --> 01:26:03.439 another guest that I really enjoyed talking to find him 1308 01:26:04.600 --> 01:26:10.520 ultimately fascinating and interesting beyond a lot of other folks 1309 01:26:10.600 --> 01:26:12.800 that I've interviewed. I've interviewed a lot of people, but 1310 01:26:13.039 --> 01:26:16.640 I've had him back numerous times for that particular reason. 1311 01:26:16.760 --> 01:26:21.640 I'm always fascinated by his observations and his historical references. 1312 01:26:22.039 --> 01:26:24.920 Rick Robinson man, Gary Jeff, you need to get out 1313 01:26:24.960 --> 01:26:26.680 more often. If I'm the if I'm the best you 1314 01:26:26.760 --> 01:26:30.199 could come up with you, you need to get this 1315 01:26:30.359 --> 01:26:34.439 whole show is filled with the best. So you made 1316 01:26:34.520 --> 01:26:37.159 the grade, you may make the great well You're playing 1317 01:26:37.239 --> 01:26:40.439 on Saturday Wow, Wow, you made the cut. 1318 01:26:40.800 --> 01:26:41.159 The cut. 1319 01:26:41.359 --> 01:26:43.960 I've made the cut barely out of the bottom. I 1320 01:26:44.039 --> 01:26:46.000 was the one who made it by by making the 1321 01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:48.279 pot on the left. Hall Rick has had a lifetime 1322 01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:52.520 and as a lawyer, and he is an author, and 1323 01:26:52.720 --> 01:26:55.680 the latest book that's still out there is nineteen sixty eight, 1324 01:26:56.159 --> 01:26:59.199 talks about many of the great parallels between nineteen sixty 1325 01:26:59.239 --> 01:27:02.359 eight and this year twenty twenty four, both presidential election 1326 01:27:02.479 --> 01:27:05.720 years and both fraught. Was some of the same kinds 1327 01:27:06.359 --> 01:27:10.479 of questions in front of the nation, and there's some 1328 01:27:10.920 --> 01:27:14.439 there's some distinct differences too. I think there are there 1329 01:27:14.479 --> 01:27:16.560 are distinct differences, and part of that has to do 1330 01:27:16.720 --> 01:27:18.640 with just the context of the times. 1331 01:27:18.720 --> 01:27:18.880 You know. 1332 01:27:18.960 --> 01:27:22.000 One of the tough things about writing this book, Gary Jeff, 1333 01:27:22.159 --> 01:27:26.279 was being able to put your backself back in nineteen 1334 01:27:26.399 --> 01:27:33.039 sixty eight and yet not be impacted by the manner 1335 01:27:33.199 --> 01:27:37.439 in which stories were written, words were used, things were 1336 01:27:37.520 --> 01:27:41.159 happening at the time, you know, three TV stations instead 1337 01:27:41.159 --> 01:27:43.640 of one hundred and fifty, those type of things that 1338 01:27:43.760 --> 01:27:46.000 were happening. That's one of the things that you have 1339 01:27:46.119 --> 01:27:48.359 to look at as the context of not only what 1340 01:27:48.560 --> 01:27:50.840 was similar, but what was different. We were both right 1341 01:27:50.920 --> 01:27:54.680 in discussing who would be the Democrat nominee for president 1342 01:27:54.760 --> 01:27:58.399 this year, in that we knew that Joe Biden was 1343 01:27:58.560 --> 01:28:02.680 not going to be ultimately that nominee. He was the 1344 01:28:02.720 --> 01:28:06.279 nominee according to the primaries. Millions of people voted for 1345 01:28:06.399 --> 01:28:10.359 Joe Biden. Nobody voted for Kamala Harris. But in nineteen 1346 01:28:10.680 --> 01:28:14.159 nineteen fifty eight, nobody voted for Humphrey either, right, And 1347 01:28:14.920 --> 01:28:20.079 I think that that maybe pretends what's ahead in our 1348 01:28:20.159 --> 01:28:24.960 future two months from now, because not enough people voted 1349 01:28:24.960 --> 01:28:27.520 for Humphrey to put him in the Oval office. No, 1350 01:28:27.720 --> 01:28:31.000 he didn't. And Humphrey, I think, and I think it's 1351 01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:32.760 going to be the same this year. Well, I think 1352 01:28:32.800 --> 01:28:35.600 it's going to be the same issue that eventually comes down. 1353 01:28:36.239 --> 01:28:39.479 If you remember, looking back in sixty eight, you had 1354 01:28:39.600 --> 01:28:45.199 Hubert Humphrey. Johnson gets out. Johnson believes that he can't win, 1355 01:28:45.399 --> 01:28:49.600 he can and Cronkite, Walter Cronkite, has gone against him 1356 01:28:49.640 --> 01:28:52.479 on Vietnam. He realizes it's time to get out of 1357 01:28:52.520 --> 01:28:57.039 the race. He passes the torch onto Humphrey, who at 1358 01:28:57.079 --> 01:29:00.760 that point all of the primaries had been run and 1359 01:29:01.279 --> 01:29:08.600 or many states decided their deleg account by caucus, So 1360 01:29:08.800 --> 01:29:11.319 Humphrey jun jumps into that whole thing. But when they 1361 01:29:11.439 --> 01:29:13.920 get down to the actual convention, and you think of 1362 01:29:13.960 --> 01:29:16.279 all the turmoil that you had between their first off, 1363 01:29:16.319 --> 01:29:18.600 you had, you have Bobby Kennedy was killed, you had 1364 01:29:18.680 --> 01:29:21.079 Martin Luther King was killed, you had all this turmoil 1365 01:29:21.159 --> 01:29:23.760 that was happening. But when they get to the convention 1366 01:29:24.960 --> 01:29:28.119 in nineteen sixty eight, Hubert Humphrey has to make a 1367 01:29:28.199 --> 01:29:31.159 decision on whether or not he's going to support or 1368 01:29:31.239 --> 01:29:36.720 oppose the peace plank in the platform. And there was 1369 01:29:36.880 --> 01:29:39.479 quite a movement going on in the Democratic Party to 1370 01:29:39.520 --> 01:29:41.800 get out of Vietnam. A peace plank gets put up. 1371 01:29:42.359 --> 01:29:46.439 Johnson's deal with the President. President Johnson had been he 1372 01:29:46.479 --> 01:29:49.399 would not go against Johnson on his how he was 1373 01:29:49.479 --> 01:29:53.800 handling Vietnam. So he opposes the peace plank, which ends 1374 01:29:53.880 --> 01:29:56.960 up not getting put into it. Well, the Democrats leave 1375 01:29:57.119 --> 01:30:03.479 that convention so split it over that one particular issue 1376 01:30:04.159 --> 01:30:08.359 that Hubert Humphrey didn't stand a chance. Starting on the 1377 01:30:08.439 --> 01:30:11.800 Thursday after the convention, it was it was over. It 1378 01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:15.199 was done. Now I guess the question is for Harris, 1379 01:30:15.960 --> 01:30:21.720 is Gaza going to cause the same split in Democratic 1380 01:30:21.960 --> 01:30:24.640 circles as did the Vietnam War, and I think that 1381 01:30:24.800 --> 01:30:27.079 remains to be seen. Why didn't they picked Shapiro, who 1382 01:30:27.119 --> 01:30:30.119 had been a much much more obvious choice for a 1383 01:30:30.239 --> 01:30:36.039 vice president, over this bumbling football assistant football co volunteer 1384 01:30:36.079 --> 01:30:39.720 assistant football coach who says mind your own business. At 1385 01:30:39.720 --> 01:30:44.119 the same time, his administration in Minnesota had a COVID 1386 01:30:44.960 --> 01:30:48.720 hotline where people could tell on their neighbors. That's not 1387 01:30:48.800 --> 01:30:51.399 a mind your own business candidate. The guy is a 1388 01:30:51.600 --> 01:30:54.279 dufe in my opinion. Well, I want you to know 1389 01:30:54.359 --> 01:30:57.039 I called journey men to the local authorities before I 1390 01:30:57.119 --> 01:30:59.680 got here. I just want you to know that to 1391 01:30:59.800 --> 01:31:03.199 think keep their list of subversion people. I want them 1392 01:31:03.239 --> 01:31:06.800 to know that I'm still out there at it. I'm 1393 01:31:06.880 --> 01:31:12.800 not going away. But the bottom line is, when you 1394 01:31:12.960 --> 01:31:14.680 look at all of this, and there has been so 1395 01:31:14.920 --> 01:31:19.960 much gyration over the over whether it's Vance or whether 1396 01:31:20.000 --> 01:31:23.479 it's Walls, nobody votes for vice president. I get that, 1397 01:31:23.840 --> 01:31:26.640 nobody votes for vice president. He did not help her, 1398 01:31:27.079 --> 01:31:30.760 is what I'm saying. I cannot think of many vice 1399 01:31:30.840 --> 01:31:34.479 presidents who ever did help the presidential candidate. It's been 1400 01:31:34.680 --> 01:31:37.439 very rare in those times that somebody has come up 1401 01:31:37.479 --> 01:31:41.479 and you know, saved the day as a VP candidate, 1402 01:31:41.520 --> 01:31:44.720 it just doesn't happen because people always look to the front, 1403 01:31:44.800 --> 01:31:46.920 They look to the leadership, They look to the person 1404 01:31:47.000 --> 01:31:51.000 that is the number one candidate going on there, that's 1405 01:31:51.079 --> 01:31:54.199 what's going to decide. In sixty eight, did Hubert Humphrey 1406 01:31:54.720 --> 01:31:56.800 was he on the ballot in any of the primary states. 1407 01:31:57.279 --> 01:32:01.680 Hubert Humphrey was on two ballots. Okay, I take that back. 1408 01:32:01.760 --> 01:32:05.079 He was on zero. He was on zero ballots. He 1409 01:32:05.319 --> 01:32:08.760 was written in or put on a ballot, and that 1410 01:32:08.840 --> 01:32:11.520 got about two percent of the vote in nineteen sixty eight, 1411 01:32:11.840 --> 01:32:14.479 so a little bit more than Kamala Harris got in 1412 01:32:14.640 --> 01:32:18.720 twenty twenty, a little more two percent of the Democratic 1413 01:32:19.520 --> 01:32:23.319 But again, the think back Garry Jeff, is that most 1414 01:32:23.520 --> 01:32:27.399 of the states did not have primaries at the time. 1415 01:32:28.159 --> 01:32:33.319 It was really was controlled by both Republicans and Democrats, 1416 01:32:33.399 --> 01:32:38.239 by party insiders who when you got to the state convention, 1417 01:32:38.960 --> 01:32:40.880 there are a lot of twisting of arms of who 1418 01:32:40.920 --> 01:32:44.520 you were going to be for. Yeah, okay, well, I 1419 01:32:44.600 --> 01:32:48.359 mean the Democrats this time followed suit because they didn't. 1420 01:32:48.600 --> 01:32:51.439 They didn't. They twisted everybody's arm and said, Hey, it's 1421 01:32:51.479 --> 01:32:55.399 Kamala even though nobody voted for I am you want 1422 01:32:55.439 --> 01:32:57.840 to talk about a man Cherian candidate or a Trojan 1423 01:32:57.920 --> 01:33:01.560 horse candidate. She definitely looks like to me, and especially 1424 01:33:01.640 --> 01:33:04.920 since she is not until this past Thursday when she 1425 01:33:05.039 --> 01:33:09.640 did the recorded CNN interview Bring Your Daddy to Workday 1426 01:33:09.720 --> 01:33:13.680 with Tim Waltzer candidate uh and you know it just 1427 01:33:14.640 --> 01:33:18.039 to me, it just sounds like there is just you 1428 01:33:18.199 --> 01:33:22.640 talk about a ground swell of enthusiasm for Kamala and 1429 01:33:22.760 --> 01:33:26.439 maybe in her base, the Democrats, but I don't see 1430 01:33:26.479 --> 01:33:29.399 it in the country overall. Here's where you and I 1431 01:33:29.479 --> 01:33:32.079 are going to disagree. We rarely disagree on things. Here's 1432 01:33:32.079 --> 01:33:34.119 where I'm going to go. I'm gonna put I'm gonna 1433 01:33:34.199 --> 01:33:36.520 draw the line, the Gary Jeff Walker line right here 1434 01:33:36.640 --> 01:33:40.079 all right. Here's where I think there's there's a difference. 1435 01:33:40.399 --> 01:33:44.159 Is that for so long the American public has been 1436 01:33:44.279 --> 01:33:49.239 dealing with the Trump Biden barbs back and forth, all 1437 01:33:49.319 --> 01:33:51.920 the questioning of what it's going to be, everything else 1438 01:33:52.000 --> 01:33:56.920 that is happening. When Harris, who I think actually grabbed 1439 01:33:56.960 --> 01:33:59.560 the nomination masterfully because I don't think she would have 1440 01:33:59.560 --> 01:34:01.600 been the play and one that people would have gone to, 1441 01:34:02.600 --> 01:34:05.359 but that she masterfully got all the delegates lined up 1442 01:34:05.399 --> 01:34:10.520 with party leadership very quickly. But Rick, she couldn't sleep 1443 01:34:10.560 --> 01:34:15.760 with all of them. And let me make sure I 1444 01:34:15.840 --> 01:34:17.920 give you the phone number of Gary Jeff Walker so 1445 01:34:18.079 --> 01:34:21.039 that you could make your comments to him about those Boh, 1446 01:34:21.079 --> 01:34:23.560 they've got my number. But I think what everybody has 1447 01:34:23.600 --> 01:34:26.600 your number, Garry Jeff. But I think what has happened 1448 01:34:26.880 --> 01:34:30.520 is that the groundswell of support. I think it is real, 1449 01:34:30.680 --> 01:34:34.119 and I think it's coming from She's none of the above. 1450 01:34:35.359 --> 01:34:38.479 How long have we been dealing with just the negativity 1451 01:34:38.560 --> 01:34:41.960 in this campaign? And somebody to be able to say, Okay, 1452 01:34:42.239 --> 01:34:48.439 they're not named Obama, Clinton, Bush, Trump, Oh there's somebody 1453 01:34:48.560 --> 01:34:51.640 new none of the above. I think that's a large 1454 01:34:51.640 --> 01:34:54.039 part of what's happening right now in the building. We'll 1455 01:34:54.039 --> 01:34:57.319 see how it holds up. More with Rick Robinson, the 1456 01:34:57.399 --> 01:35:00.720 author of nineteen sixty eight, as we continue, Scary Jeff 1457 01:35:00.880 --> 01:35:04.800 with you on Labor Day fifty five KRC dot com Morning, 1458 01:35:05.199 --> 01:35:08.600 beautiful day, enjoy it all or high this afternoon up 1459 01:35:08.640 --> 01:35:12.000 to seventy nine, and that's it. It is sixty two 1460 01:35:12.399 --> 01:35:34.640 at fifty five KRC, the talk station. The music professor 1461 01:35:34.720 --> 01:35:37.600 Jim Lebarbara said this was the song that the record 1462 01:35:37.680 --> 01:35:41.119 company of the Rascals did not want to be released 1463 01:35:41.119 --> 01:35:46.600 as a single. It was too controversial. In nineteen sixty eight. 1464 01:35:47.119 --> 01:35:49.840 It was the number one record this week in nineteen 1465 01:35:49.920 --> 01:35:52.760 sixty eight. And Rick Robinson knows that because he wrote 1466 01:35:52.760 --> 01:35:56.720 the book nineteen sixty eight, and I think he probably 1467 01:35:57.279 --> 01:36:01.359 lived nineteen. Yeah, I was around in sixty eight. Around 1468 01:36:01.840 --> 01:36:04.920 I was singing people Gotta be Free. So there you go, 1469 01:36:05.520 --> 01:36:07.319 there you go. You know, well, you know what else 1470 01:36:07.399 --> 01:36:09.279 came out that that month. I mean, if you take 1471 01:36:09.279 --> 01:36:11.560 a look at that, you had a Harper Valley Pta, 1472 01:36:11.760 --> 01:36:16.359 which becomes again with kind of a huge song, but 1473 01:36:17.239 --> 01:36:19.800 also at the end of the month the song that 1474 01:36:19.960 --> 01:36:23.880 defined nineteen sixty eight for me anyway. In September of 1475 01:36:23.960 --> 01:36:26.760 sixty eight, the Beatles came out with Hey Jude. Stayed 1476 01:36:26.800 --> 01:36:29.399 on the charts longer than any single, and it was 1477 01:36:29.479 --> 01:36:32.960 the longest single to ever be number one. They released 1478 01:36:33.039 --> 01:36:36.880 that in its full running length right as a single. 1479 01:36:37.520 --> 01:36:40.760 It's like seven eight minutes long, isn't it. I mean, 1480 01:36:41.119 --> 01:36:43.279 unheard of at the time that you would release a 1481 01:36:43.399 --> 01:36:47.359 single that that long. Of course, the last three minutes 1482 01:36:47.399 --> 01:36:52.079 are dom no no, no, no, no, no, no, no 1483 01:36:53.640 --> 01:36:56.199 it It's hard to come up with those words. Hey, Jude, 1484 01:36:56.600 --> 01:37:00.640 you know you're right. It was a great time. I 1485 01:37:00.720 --> 01:37:03.039 thought it was. Sixties were a great time for music 1486 01:37:03.079 --> 01:37:06.560 as well. Six sixty eight I think was the year 1487 01:37:06.680 --> 01:37:09.840 to me that had its own soundtrack. Yeah, because if 1488 01:37:09.880 --> 01:37:12.359 you look at everything that was going on, the turmoil 1489 01:37:12.399 --> 01:37:16.119 and everything that's happening, you have the music scenes starting 1490 01:37:16.199 --> 01:37:21.560 to change, and you have the garage bands becoming nationalized. 1491 01:37:21.600 --> 01:37:23.800 They they're you know, I was looking the other day 1492 01:37:23.840 --> 01:37:27.680 and you know, Bootsy was playing with his original band 1493 01:37:29.199 --> 01:37:31.439 up in up in Clifton at the time, and I 1494 01:37:31.560 --> 01:37:33.640 want to say, was the Pacemakers. They can't remember the 1495 01:37:33.720 --> 01:37:35.720 name of the band, but you know he was just 1496 01:37:35.840 --> 01:37:37.800 out doing that. And all these people that we end 1497 01:37:37.920 --> 01:37:40.880 up coming to follow for so many years, like you 1498 01:37:40.960 --> 01:37:43.279 and I hear music fans that we are see you know, 1499 01:37:43.439 --> 01:37:46.119 that's that started moving up and becoming nationalize. To me, 1500 01:37:46.239 --> 01:37:48.239 this is a distinct difference. And I know I'm not 1501 01:37:49.880 --> 01:37:51.960 I'm not a guy who listens to a lot of 1502 01:37:52.159 --> 01:37:55.239 music that is popular now, a lot of hit music, 1503 01:37:56.680 --> 01:38:01.439 But I see very Little Corela between twenty twenty four 1504 01:38:01.479 --> 01:38:04.840 and nineteen sixty eight. Music Wise, I would concur on 1505 01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:09.760 that I think that the music was driven at the 1506 01:38:09.840 --> 01:38:15.840 time by, you know, a belief on people like people 1507 01:38:15.920 --> 01:38:18.560 everywhere got to be free, that they could chose that 1508 01:38:18.760 --> 01:38:21.600 music was somehow going to change the world, and they 1509 01:38:21.720 --> 01:38:26.359 believe that. I did an interview with the gentleman who 1510 01:38:26.399 --> 01:38:30.640 wrote Eve of Destruction and performed it, and I mean 1511 01:38:30.760 --> 01:38:34.159 that the way music, you know, will get to the radio. 1512 01:38:34.319 --> 01:38:39.520 Then he went in he played the song for Lou Adler. Yeah, 1513 01:38:39.680 --> 01:38:42.840 you're talking about Barry McGwire, Barry maguire, formerly with the 1514 01:38:43.119 --> 01:38:46.319 New Christian Minstrels, and gave a couple of songs to 1515 01:38:46.439 --> 01:38:50.760 the friends of the papas the whole bit. He goes in, 1516 01:38:51.319 --> 01:38:54.840 he plays this song for Lou Adler. Adler hands the 1517 01:38:54.920 --> 01:39:00.119 recording on. It's recorded on a sheet of paper that 1518 01:39:00.199 --> 01:39:02.720 he had in his pocket, and it was him and 1519 01:39:02.840 --> 01:39:07.039 a guitar, nothing else. Adler says, come back in and 1520 01:39:07.199 --> 01:39:10.760 Monday and we'll record this. He's driving down the street 1521 01:39:10.960 --> 01:39:15.199 on Saturday and he hears it Adler have recorded it, 1522 01:39:15.319 --> 01:39:17.720 and he's like, I couldn't wait till Monday. He added 1523 01:39:17.760 --> 01:39:19.960 a couple of drums and booms. Send it on the radio, 1524 01:39:20.560 --> 01:39:22.800 and you know, here's his song being played on you know, 1525 01:39:22.960 --> 01:39:26.439 played it on a Friday for the King of Music, 1526 01:39:26.520 --> 01:39:29.720 and on Saturday it's on the radio. Yeah, and you 1527 01:39:29.840 --> 01:39:33.000 know what, it wouldn't surprise me to see the Jordan 1528 01:39:33.159 --> 01:39:39.920 River with bodies floating, considering the state of today's situation 1529 01:39:40.279 --> 01:39:42.439 in the Middle East. But anyway, go ahead. Well, and 1530 01:39:42.520 --> 01:39:44.159 that was kind of the comment that I that I 1531 01:39:44.239 --> 01:39:46.159 have for Barry when I did this, is that you 1532 01:39:46.239 --> 01:39:49.319 know this, you recorded this song the even Destruction, it's 1533 01:39:49.399 --> 01:39:53.960 now fifty years old. Were you're wrong? And it was 1534 01:39:54.079 --> 01:39:56.520 comment was actually brilliant. Gary Jeff is what he's saying. 1535 01:39:56.680 --> 01:40:01.560 He came back and he said, I wasn't wrong. Here 1536 01:40:01.600 --> 01:40:03.800 we are fifty years later, and people still are on 1537 01:40:03.920 --> 01:40:08.039 the verge of their eve of destruction. If you look 1538 01:40:08.079 --> 01:40:10.680 at what's going on overseas, if you look at what's 1539 01:40:10.760 --> 01:40:13.600 going on in South America, you know, look at the 1540 01:40:13.720 --> 01:40:17.560 different places where things are happening, and aren't they still 1541 01:40:17.640 --> 01:40:20.840 on their eve of destruction? And I thought that was 1542 01:40:20.880 --> 01:40:25.399 actually a pretty good point. Well, we had a warmonger 1543 01:40:25.479 --> 01:40:28.520 as President Lyndon Baines Johnson in nineteen sixty eight. He 1544 01:40:28.640 --> 01:40:31.000 was on his way out obviously, right. 1545 01:40:32.159 --> 01:40:33.840 And we have. 1546 01:40:35.840 --> 01:40:38.600 A current administration with Kamala Harris as a part of 1547 01:40:39.439 --> 01:40:43.760 that very much has been you could say pro war 1548 01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:48.199 with their continuing to arm Ukraine. Now Ukraine's invading Russia. 1549 01:40:48.279 --> 01:40:52.039 Now was that really the mission? And we have Amass 1550 01:40:52.119 --> 01:40:56.079 attacking Israel in the worst terror attack that that country 1551 01:40:56.199 --> 01:41:00.359 ever saw. I mean, you're talking about the Yamkap war 1552 01:41:00.439 --> 01:41:02.880 and all of that. There was nothing like the Hamas 1553 01:41:02.920 --> 01:41:06.119 attack a year ago on October seventh. They're almost a 1554 01:41:06.239 --> 01:41:12.319 year ago. And that part and parcel depends on the 1555 01:41:12.920 --> 01:41:18.600 United States and their positions and their weakness or their 1556 01:41:18.800 --> 01:41:21.840 willingness to feed the war machine. They're still doing it. 1557 01:41:21.960 --> 01:41:24.560 They're still feeding the war machine in Washington. Be the 1558 01:41:24.680 --> 01:41:28.159 Republican or Democrat. See now you could be a folk 1559 01:41:28.640 --> 01:41:31.800 singer with that kind of language going in, going into 1560 01:41:31.880 --> 01:41:33.840 we need to get that down into a song, into 1561 01:41:33.880 --> 01:41:37.800 a track, because that was the whole folk movement right there. 1562 01:41:38.359 --> 01:41:40.600 But yeah, you're right, and I think it goes back 1563 01:41:40.680 --> 01:41:48.600 to again, will it be Harris's Vietnam? Will that issue 1564 01:41:48.680 --> 01:41:53.640 become Vietnam? For the Vice President Harris Well, for the 1565 01:41:53.680 --> 01:41:59.479 country's sake, I hope so, I certainly hope. So we 1566 01:41:59.680 --> 01:42:03.000 shall see. Yeah, yes, we shall. We need to do 1567 01:42:03.079 --> 01:42:05.279 a show the day after the election so we can 1568 01:42:05.439 --> 01:42:08.159 sit here and uh well, I mean and figure out 1569 01:42:08.199 --> 01:42:10.479 what what what went right and what went wrong. It's 1570 01:42:10.520 --> 01:42:14.399 a Tuesday night. It's a Tuesday night. November fifth is 1571 01:42:14.439 --> 01:42:19.720 a Tuesday night. I generally am here on a Tuesday 1572 01:42:19.800 --> 01:42:23.479 night with election results. I did it. I did it 1573 01:42:23.560 --> 01:42:27.359 two years ago, I did it four years ago. I'll 1574 01:42:27.520 --> 01:42:31.079 extend the invitation now if you would like to join 1575 01:42:31.159 --> 01:42:34.399 me on election night, I would love to. That would 1576 01:42:34.439 --> 01:42:37.600 be a wonderful And watch prop your eyes open. I'll 1577 01:42:37.640 --> 01:42:40.079 watch watch the results come in a couple of years 1578 01:42:40.119 --> 01:42:44.359 ago I did for a local TV station when I 1579 01:42:44.479 --> 01:42:46.279 was up in DC and the next day had to 1580 01:42:46.359 --> 01:42:50.079 be in Wisconsin giving a giving a seminar. And that 1581 01:42:50.199 --> 01:42:52.479 was one of those nights where it went all night. 1582 01:42:52.640 --> 01:42:55.840 Oh yeah, I just remember showing up for the eleven 1583 01:42:55.840 --> 01:42:59.359 o'clock session that I was doing, flying to Wisconsin and literally, 1584 01:42:59.439 --> 01:43:03.600 you're right, having to can somebody get me two red bulls? Oh? 1585 01:43:04.720 --> 01:43:07.079 I doubted to be decided by the time I get 1586 01:43:07.159 --> 01:43:10.399 off that night at midnight because the Democrats will be 1587 01:43:10.439 --> 01:43:14.239 scrambling to find enough votes that they can win again. Anyway, 1588 01:43:14.640 --> 01:43:16.840 it's great to have you with us. Always a pleasure 1589 01:43:16.880 --> 01:43:19.279 to be here. Gary Jeff book is nineteen sixty eight, 1590 01:43:19.319 --> 01:43:20.640 still in print, still out there. 1591 01:43:20.600 --> 01:43:21.239 Still in print. 1592 01:43:21.279 --> 01:43:23.319 You can pick up a copy on Amazon, you can 1593 01:43:23.359 --> 01:43:25.479 go to Headline books dot com, or you can go 1594 01:43:25.520 --> 01:43:31.000 to your bookstore and say give me one fantastic. It's 1595 01:43:31.079 --> 01:43:32.760 Gary Jeff on Labor Day. 1596 01:43:33.159 --> 01:43:36.359 This is fifty five KRC and iHeartRadio Station. 1597 01:43:36.600 --> 01:43:39.199 No, you couldn't have a Labor Day show without having 1598 01:43:39.800 --> 01:43:42.199 labor be one of your topics you covered. It just 1599 01:43:42.399 --> 01:43:47.000 makes sense. So I contacted the National Right to Work 1600 01:43:47.039 --> 01:43:51.640 Committee and the National Right to Work Legal Foundation Defense Foundation, 1601 01:43:52.439 --> 01:43:56.640 and we got Patrick Simmons, the VP, the vice president 1602 01:43:56.840 --> 01:44:00.680 of that organization to talk to us about what liizahead 1603 01:44:00.760 --> 01:44:04.439 for the American worker. Because we've heard Kamala Harris and 1604 01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:10.319 now her vice presidential candidate Tim Walls talk about protecting 1605 01:44:10.560 --> 01:44:13.720 jobs and middle class jobs and how the unions are 1606 01:44:13.760 --> 01:44:18.079 the only way to do this. Kamala Harris has repeatedly 1607 01:44:18.159 --> 01:44:21.399 called for eliminating right to work laws nationwide and forcing 1608 01:44:21.520 --> 01:44:25.319 workers across the country to pay union dues just to 1609 01:44:25.439 --> 01:44:30.720 stay employed. When she was a California Attorney General, she 1610 01:44:30.880 --> 01:44:34.439 admitted an illegal brief that union bosses have substantial power 1611 01:44:34.520 --> 01:44:38.600 to harm workers interests. But of course, Kamala has been 1612 01:44:38.840 --> 01:44:41.800 recently known to flip flop on a lot of stated 1613 01:44:42.479 --> 01:44:47.039 convictions that she apparently had in the past. We don't 1614 01:44:47.119 --> 01:44:50.520 know who the real Kamala Harris is. That's another question entirely, 1615 01:44:50.560 --> 01:44:52.920 and actually it is the question at hand here for 1616 01:44:53.039 --> 01:44:56.880 Patrick Simmons. How are you doing, Patrick, I'm doing well. 1617 01:44:56.960 --> 01:44:58.880 Good to be with you. Do you think that there's 1618 01:44:58.920 --> 01:45:01.520 any chance in hell well that Kamala Harris is going 1619 01:45:01.560 --> 01:45:04.399 to reverse her position on right to work laws around 1620 01:45:04.439 --> 01:45:04.880 the country. 1621 01:45:06.560 --> 01:45:09.479 No, you know, obviously there's been a lot of policy 1622 01:45:09.560 --> 01:45:12.079 areas where she seems to kind of be floating with 1623 01:45:12.199 --> 01:45:15.199 the wind and maybe trying to obsuscate some of her 1624 01:45:15.560 --> 01:45:21.600 past views. But she has been very consistent in advocating 1625 01:45:21.680 --> 01:45:24.279 that every worker in America should be forced to pay 1626 01:45:24.319 --> 01:45:26.640 money to a union boss as a condition of getting 1627 01:45:26.760 --> 01:45:29.880 or keeping a job. She's called the elimination of right 1628 01:45:29.960 --> 01:45:32.239 to work clause, as you noted, and she's actually even 1629 01:45:32.279 --> 01:45:35.800 gone further She suggested that entire sectors should be unionized 1630 01:45:36.399 --> 01:45:40.039 in a process that wouldn't be about what workers wanted, 1631 01:45:40.079 --> 01:45:45.359 but be about empowering union bosses just to a massive 1632 01:45:45.560 --> 01:45:47.239 exponential degree. 1633 01:45:47.640 --> 01:45:51.920 Well, it seems that philosophy seems right in step with 1634 01:45:52.439 --> 01:45:57.079 Kamala's and the Democrats want to take control over all 1635 01:45:57.159 --> 01:46:02.199 of our lives in the collective. You know, it's so communist. 1636 01:46:02.399 --> 01:46:06.119 It is just so socialist slash communist. That leads, of 1637 01:46:06.159 --> 01:46:11.000 course to Marxism and Mayhem when you have these collective 1638 01:46:11.199 --> 01:46:15.760 kind of views about everything that we're all in this 1639 01:46:15.960 --> 01:46:21.119 together thing. I hate that because it kind of violates 1640 01:46:21.239 --> 01:46:25.840 the spirit of a constitution that protects the individual's rights 1641 01:46:26.359 --> 01:46:29.039 and not a group. And we've seen a lot of 1642 01:46:29.079 --> 01:46:29.880 that in this country. 1643 01:46:31.359 --> 01:46:33.880 Yeah, that's right, and that's very much the view. It's 1644 01:46:33.920 --> 01:46:36.840 a top down view. It's an idea that union bosses 1645 01:46:37.000 --> 01:46:41.079 know better than workers what their interests are. And you 1646 01:46:41.239 --> 01:46:43.600 reference it in the intro. You know, there was a 1647 01:46:43.680 --> 01:46:46.720 Supreme Court case out of California, a bunch of public 1648 01:46:47.079 --> 01:46:50.600 school teachers there or saying that, hey, the First Amendment 1649 01:46:51.000 --> 01:46:53.600 should mean that we should not be required to fund 1650 01:46:54.079 --> 01:46:56.000 union officials who all they do is they take our 1651 01:46:56.079 --> 01:46:59.239 money and they spend it on their own agenda, an 1652 01:46:59.239 --> 01:47:02.560 agenda that they often disagree with. And in that case, 1653 01:47:03.399 --> 01:47:05.680 Kyla Harris, in her brief as Attorney General for the 1654 01:47:05.720 --> 01:47:09.800 State of California, admitted that union officials have wide lead 1655 01:47:09.880 --> 01:47:12.439 way to take all sorts of positions that are harmful 1656 01:47:12.800 --> 01:47:16.039 for many of those workers who she would want and 1657 01:47:16.119 --> 01:47:18.479 she advocates for and at the time were forced. But 1658 01:47:18.560 --> 01:47:21.880 of course, since the Supreme Court ruled in the subsequent 1659 01:47:21.960 --> 01:47:24.840 case argued actually by the National Right to Work Foundation 1660 01:47:25.479 --> 01:47:27.920 that the first menment means they cannot be forced to pay. 1661 01:47:28.760 --> 01:47:31.439 But she said quite clearly she thinks they should be 1662 01:47:31.520 --> 01:47:33.680 forced to pay. And the fact that they're harmed by 1663 01:47:33.720 --> 01:47:38.800 the very union so called representation, that doesn't matter. That 1664 01:47:38.840 --> 01:47:41.760 they should still be required to pay up or be fired. 1665 01:47:42.359 --> 01:47:46.800 You guys at the National Right to Work Committee and 1666 01:47:46.920 --> 01:47:50.239 the Legal Defense Foundation have fought tooth and nail, and 1667 01:47:50.319 --> 01:47:53.279 one of the things you fought so hard for is 1668 01:47:53.359 --> 01:47:55.720 to help these states out with their right to work laws. 1669 01:47:55.760 --> 01:47:58.560 There are twenty six states that have right to work laws. 1670 01:48:00.600 --> 01:48:05.520 The Harris backed pro Act Big Labor Bill that their 1671 01:48:05.560 --> 01:48:09.159 aim is to wipe out by federal fiat, not even 1672 01:48:09.239 --> 01:48:12.560 by any act of Congress or vote of Congress, just 1673 01:48:12.640 --> 01:48:16.520 by saying, you know what, we're in charge. Screw you. 1674 01:48:17.680 --> 01:48:19.159 You don't have the right to work, no matter what 1675 01:48:19.239 --> 01:48:20.279 the Supreme Court says. 1676 01:48:21.560 --> 01:48:25.000 Yeah. The pro Act is the top legislative priority of 1677 01:48:25.159 --> 01:48:29.079 every major union in the country. And Kamala Harris was 1678 01:48:29.359 --> 01:48:31.680 a co sponsor of it when she was in the Senate. 1679 01:48:32.319 --> 01:48:37.199 She's been a vocal advocate for it ever since. President Biden, 1680 01:48:37.239 --> 01:48:39.680 when to the extent he knows what's still going on, 1681 01:48:39.880 --> 01:48:42.960 he's been fully on board for it as well. And 1682 01:48:43.039 --> 01:48:45.840 if they get the votes to you know, and even 1683 01:48:45.840 --> 01:48:48.800 if it means eliminating the filibuster, you can fully expect 1684 01:48:48.840 --> 01:48:51.479 that they're going to push this. And to your point, 1685 01:48:51.680 --> 01:48:53.560 they're also looking for ways to do this type of 1686 01:48:53.600 --> 01:48:56.920 thing without going through Congress, because you know, we know 1687 01:48:57.720 --> 01:49:01.199 voluntary unionism and right to work is pop Popular polls 1688 01:49:01.279 --> 01:49:05.119 consistently show seventy five eighty percent of Americans support right 1689 01:49:05.199 --> 01:49:08.560 to work, which doesn't stop anyone from joining a union 1690 01:49:08.560 --> 01:49:11.119 if they want, doesn't stop anyone from paying dues if 1691 01:49:11.159 --> 01:49:14.159 they want, but it means it cannot be required and 1692 01:49:14.279 --> 01:49:17.039 you cannot be forced to pay under threat of termination. 1693 01:49:18.000 --> 01:49:22.479 So voluntary unionism is popular. Forced union is unpopular. But 1694 01:49:23.640 --> 01:49:27.560 a Harris presidency is not about what's best for rank 1695 01:49:27.600 --> 01:49:31.840 and file workers. It's about her allies in the headquarters 1696 01:49:31.880 --> 01:49:34.479 that you'll see around washing DC if you ever go there, 1697 01:49:35.119 --> 01:49:38.920 the big marble buildings where the union bosses work as 1698 01:49:39.000 --> 01:49:41.800 they purport to advocate for the rank and file, but 1699 01:49:41.920 --> 01:49:45.359 actually advocate against their freedoms and their choices. 1700 01:49:45.600 --> 01:49:49.039 Michigan, one of the so called electoral battleground states, the 1701 01:49:49.119 --> 01:49:52.720 swing state could decide the election abandon right to work 1702 01:49:52.760 --> 01:49:59.279 this year. And what's been the result, Well, it's it's 1703 01:49:59.319 --> 01:49:59.920 been bad news. 1704 01:50:00.159 --> 01:50:02.159 I mean, and at the National Right to Work Foundation 1705 01:50:02.359 --> 01:50:05.159 we of course end upearing about it firsthand from workers. 1706 01:50:05.840 --> 01:50:09.720 We've had a major uptick in cases from Michigan workers 1707 01:50:09.800 --> 01:50:12.960 because you know, Michigan was a right to work state 1708 01:50:13.000 --> 01:50:17.680 for a decade. It saw excellent economic growth. 1709 01:50:17.399 --> 01:50:18.359 Over that period of time. 1710 01:50:19.079 --> 01:50:23.039 But you know, it also meant workers could hold unions accountable. 1711 01:50:23.119 --> 01:50:24.960 So if they like what the union is doing, they 1712 01:50:24.960 --> 01:50:26.840 could pay. If they didn't like what they're doing, they 1713 01:50:26.840 --> 01:50:29.479 weren't forced to. Now all of a sudden, with right 1714 01:50:29.560 --> 01:50:33.800 to work repeal, taking effect earlier this year. Suddenly we've 1715 01:50:33.840 --> 01:50:36.079 got all these workers who are being threatened, many of 1716 01:50:36.119 --> 01:50:39.039 them are being threatened even beyond what is legal. We 1717 01:50:39.159 --> 01:50:42.640 had a case recently for a woman. She was told, hey, 1718 01:50:42.680 --> 01:50:45.880 you got to sign a union dues deduction card or 1719 01:50:46.000 --> 01:50:48.279 else we're going to have you fired. She filed a 1720 01:50:48.399 --> 01:50:51.039 charge with the National Liberlations Board because that's a blatant 1721 01:50:51.119 --> 01:50:54.479 violation of long standing law. And not only did they 1722 01:50:54.560 --> 01:50:56.760 not back down the next month, they just began taking 1723 01:50:56.800 --> 01:50:59.239 the money anyway, even though she didn't sign the card 1724 01:50:59.279 --> 01:51:02.279 to begin with. And these are the cases we're seeing 1725 01:51:02.439 --> 01:51:05.840 all across Michigan because workers are feeling the front of 1726 01:51:05.880 --> 01:51:09.199 this and they're suddenly finding that instead of the choice 1727 01:51:09.239 --> 01:51:13.039 that they had and they enjoyed for ten years, suddenly 1728 01:51:13.159 --> 01:51:15.359 it's pay up or be fired. And it doesn't matter 1729 01:51:16.239 --> 01:51:18.840 that you know, you don't like what the union is doing. 1730 01:51:18.880 --> 01:51:21.520 It doesn't matter that the union may be taking political 1731 01:51:21.600 --> 01:51:24.399 positions that you disagree with. That's something we frequently hear 1732 01:51:25.039 --> 01:51:28.399 from workers all across the country, but including in Michigan. 1733 01:51:29.039 --> 01:51:32.039 They don't like the political positions and the candidates often 1734 01:51:32.520 --> 01:51:35.600 that union officials back, and they of course want to 1735 01:51:35.680 --> 01:51:40.239 back them with workers money and workers money that is 1736 01:51:40.319 --> 01:51:42.119 frequently paid under threat of termination. 1737 01:51:42.479 --> 01:51:46.600 Patrick Simmons, National Right to Work Foundation, we will discuss 1738 01:51:46.720 --> 01:51:49.319 a little bit further here in just a moment after 1739 01:51:49.399 --> 01:51:53.119 a break. It's Gary jeffun Labor Day, fifty five KRC 1740 01:51:53.640 --> 01:51:58.960 the talk station fifty three for a load temperature seventy 1741 01:51:59.079 --> 01:52:02.239 nine is safternon in sixty one now at fifty five 1742 01:52:02.359 --> 01:52:05.800 KRSUD not eing with Patrick Simmons, the vice president of 1743 01:52:05.840 --> 01:52:09.439 the National Right to Work Foundation, And it's Labor Day. 1744 01:52:10.039 --> 01:52:14.479 How's that? Jerry Jeff on Labor Day? And Patrick, we're back. 1745 01:52:15.399 --> 01:52:19.079 Anti Israel union bosses on college campuses have been forcing 1746 01:52:19.239 --> 01:52:22.319 Jewish students to fund their activities. How are they doing that? 1747 01:52:24.239 --> 01:52:27.279 Yeah, well, this is the product of the kind of 1748 01:52:27.279 --> 01:52:31.880 the intersection of a couple different aspects of outrageous coercive 1749 01:52:31.960 --> 01:52:35.560 force unionism. So it actually goes back to an Obama 1750 01:52:35.640 --> 01:52:40.399 era ruling that said graduate students could be forcibly unionized, 1751 01:52:40.399 --> 01:52:42.520 and then of course in states without right to work laws, 1752 01:52:42.600 --> 01:52:44.279 that means they can be forced to pay dues or 1753 01:52:44.359 --> 01:52:47.600 be fired. And so you know, this is happening all 1754 01:52:47.600 --> 01:52:50.399 across the country. We had a group of MIT grad 1755 01:52:50.479 --> 01:52:55.359 students come to us, and they were furious that their union, 1756 01:52:55.760 --> 01:53:00.680 supposedly their union, was spending all this time talking about 1757 01:53:00.800 --> 01:53:04.560 Israel and uh and these were Jewish students and yet 1758 01:53:04.680 --> 01:53:11.000 the union, there, an old line communist union, was making 1759 01:53:11.039 --> 01:53:16.800 all sorts of radical you know, comments about partheid, apartheid, 1760 01:53:17.479 --> 01:53:21.399 Israel and basically you know, and they found this deeply 1761 01:53:21.479 --> 01:53:25.920 offensive on religious grounds and and also just you know, 1762 01:53:26.000 --> 01:53:27.680 that they're being forced to associate with this and this 1763 01:53:27.840 --> 01:53:30.359 union was taking their money and spending it on these 1764 01:53:30.399 --> 01:53:33.039 types of things. So we had a long running case 1765 01:53:33.079 --> 01:53:36.359 that just concluded and they were able to get out. 1766 01:53:36.760 --> 01:53:43.079 They used the Civil Rights Acts religious liberty protections to 1767 01:53:43.640 --> 01:53:45.800 to make sure that their money wasn't going to that union. 1768 01:53:46.239 --> 01:53:48.439 But you know, it's a really complicated process, and it's 1769 01:53:48.479 --> 01:53:50.079 one that they shouldn't have to go through at all. 1770 01:53:50.479 --> 01:53:53.479 And of course, if you know, if it was a 1771 01:53:53.600 --> 01:53:55.880 right to work situation, they wouldn't have to to fund 1772 01:53:55.920 --> 01:53:59.640 these activities. But it's a big problem. And even when 1773 01:53:59.640 --> 01:54:02.279 they're not forced to fund the union, they're still stuck 1774 01:54:02.359 --> 01:54:06.840 under the representation of unions that take these types of positions. 1775 01:54:07.439 --> 01:54:09.720 We've got a case currently pending at the US Supreme 1776 01:54:09.760 --> 01:54:12.079 Court right now for a group of City University of 1777 01:54:12.159 --> 01:54:15.800 New York professors. They're Jewish as well. The union there 1778 01:54:16.039 --> 01:54:18.600 again takes all sorts of anti Israel positions, some of 1779 01:54:18.640 --> 01:54:22.199 them are from Israel, and they just they find this 1780 01:54:22.359 --> 01:54:25.039 deeply offensive that they're forced to associate with its union, 1781 01:54:25.319 --> 01:54:27.000 and the State of New York says, these are your 1782 01:54:27.119 --> 01:54:31.319 appointed representatives. They represent you to us, the government. And 1783 01:54:31.439 --> 01:54:33.560 so they've got a case pending at the Supreme Court. 1784 01:54:34.000 --> 01:54:36.680 It's received about a dozen a meekas briefs just in 1785 01:54:37.119 --> 01:54:41.680 the last couple of weeks asking or backing their petition 1786 01:54:42.119 --> 01:54:44.000 asking the Supreme Court to hear the case. And their 1787 01:54:44.840 --> 01:54:47.760 point of view, and the argument they make is that, look, 1788 01:54:48.039 --> 01:54:51.039 the First Amendment means we can't be forced to fund 1789 01:54:51.079 --> 01:54:55.239 these unions. And that's what the Supreme Court argued or 1790 01:54:55.800 --> 01:55:00.199 decided back in twenty eighteen in the Janis decision, which 1791 01:55:00.199 --> 01:55:02.279 is we kind of reference that last segment. But now 1792 01:55:02.319 --> 01:55:04.800 they're saying, also the first amount of protect freedom association. 1793 01:55:05.439 --> 01:55:09.159 And so the idea of having a forced representation representative 1794 01:55:09.239 --> 01:55:11.720 on you is wrong. I mean, we you know in 1795 01:55:11.800 --> 01:55:16.680 this country, uh a, you know, a guilty criminal gets 1796 01:55:16.720 --> 01:55:20.439 to pick their own representative. But but you know, in 1797 01:55:20.600 --> 01:55:24.479 order to be a professor at a public university, the 1798 01:55:24.720 --> 01:55:27.319 state of New York has to appoint a representative to you, 1799 01:55:27.800 --> 01:55:30.680 and one that takes all sorts of offensive positions. So 1800 01:55:30.800 --> 01:55:33.560 we're hoping that could be a breakthrough. We'll probably learn 1801 01:55:33.600 --> 01:55:35.880 the next few months if the Supreme Court is going 1802 01:55:35.960 --> 01:55:38.039 to take that case. I mean, if they do, they 1803 01:55:38.119 --> 01:55:41.479 they could hold arguments next year sometime the. 1804 01:55:41.560 --> 01:55:45.960 National Labor Relation Board and they're a Smek's decision if 1805 01:55:45.960 --> 01:55:49.399 I'm pronouncing that right. He gave union bosses the power 1806 01:55:49.479 --> 01:55:54.560 to bypas bypass traditional union elections. So in other words, 1807 01:55:54.960 --> 01:55:59.199 you're you're forced to pay a union to represent you 1808 01:55:59.760 --> 01:56:02.119 when you don't want to, and then you don't have 1809 01:56:02.239 --> 01:56:05.960 any voice in who is leading the union. That's crazy. 1810 01:56:07.279 --> 01:56:09.840 Yeah, it is crazy. And you know some of us 1811 01:56:09.920 --> 01:56:14.560 remember back in twenty ten during the Obama years. At 1812 01:56:14.600 --> 01:56:16.760 that time, they wanted to do this, but they knew 1813 01:56:16.840 --> 01:56:19.119 it would take a bill in Congress. They had the 1814 01:56:19.199 --> 01:56:22.800 card Check Bill. Back then. It was very controversial, it 1815 01:56:22.920 --> 01:56:25.960 was very unpopular, and ultimately went down because there was 1816 01:56:26.039 --> 01:56:30.640 actually bipartisan opposition to it. But now the Biden Harris 1817 01:56:30.760 --> 01:56:34.960 National Relations Board is basically implementing card check and they're 1818 01:56:35.039 --> 01:56:39.439 doing so just through administrative procedures. And that's what the 1819 01:56:39.680 --> 01:56:43.199 SEMEX decision does. It says that in the past, unions 1820 01:56:43.239 --> 01:56:46.239 could collect cards, and we know that these are often 1821 01:56:46.640 --> 01:56:49.479 collected under false pretenses. Workers are lied to about what 1822 01:56:49.560 --> 01:56:52.960 the cards mean. We've had people being threatened. There was 1823 01:56:53.039 --> 01:56:54.920 one case where someone said, you know, the union's going 1824 01:56:55.000 --> 01:56:57.399 to come after your children if you don't assign the card. 1825 01:56:58.560 --> 01:57:01.119 What all sorts of coor they show up at your 1826 01:57:01.159 --> 01:57:03.319 house two three at a time, sometimes late at night. 1827 01:57:03.760 --> 01:57:06.000 We've assisted workers who have had to call the police 1828 01:57:06.039 --> 01:57:09.439 just to get union organized off their property. But these 1829 01:57:09.520 --> 01:57:12.760 cards then get used instead of a secret ballot vote 1830 01:57:13.399 --> 01:57:16.039 to impose the union on every single worker, even those 1831 01:57:16.079 --> 01:57:20.279 who didn't sign would never sign, oppose it, those who 1832 01:57:20.319 --> 01:57:23.800 signed under false pretenses. And so that's what's going on now. 1833 01:57:23.960 --> 01:57:26.600 And instead of the traditional system, which was the union 1834 01:57:26.640 --> 01:57:28.520 could collect the card, they'd go to the employer, but 1835 01:57:28.600 --> 01:57:31.000 the employer said, well, you know, let's hold a secret 1836 01:57:31.000 --> 01:57:33.760 ballot vote just because someone says they'll you know, signs 1837 01:57:33.800 --> 01:57:36.439 the card. When there's a few big burly union guys 1838 01:57:36.479 --> 01:57:38.760 at their door doesn't mean that they're going to actually 1839 01:57:38.960 --> 01:57:42.319 vote for that union when there's a secret ballot vote 1840 01:57:42.359 --> 01:57:47.760 and their vote is private. But this NLRB has dispensed 1841 01:57:47.800 --> 01:57:52.159 with over sixty or seventy years of president to mandate 1842 01:57:52.800 --> 01:57:55.000 that card checks be accepted. 1843 01:57:54.600 --> 01:58:01.039 Now, and that same Labor Relations Board under Bid and Harris, 1844 01:58:02.640 --> 01:58:06.399 and we probably just should say Harris just nixt the 1845 01:58:06.640 --> 01:58:10.600 Trump era election protection rule where union bosses can manipulate 1846 01:58:10.720 --> 01:58:14.600 unverified allegations to stop workers from voting out the unions 1847 01:58:14.920 --> 01:58:18.319 and for bid workers from asking for secret ballot elections 1848 01:58:18.720 --> 01:58:22.479 to challenge unionization by card check. That's another component of this. 1849 01:58:23.760 --> 01:58:27.720 Yeah, and just in case you had any you know, qualms, 1850 01:58:28.279 --> 01:58:30.279 we're worried at all or unsure at all about what 1851 01:58:30.359 --> 01:58:32.600 their goal is. I mean, this really kind of kind 1852 01:58:32.600 --> 01:58:34.840 of lays it out. So on one hand, card checks 1853 01:58:34.880 --> 01:58:37.359 to get in, but if you want a secret bowot 1854 01:58:37.399 --> 01:58:41.560 election to vote out a union and incumbent union, suddenly 1855 01:58:41.760 --> 01:58:46.199 they're making that extraordinarily difficult. And they're giving unions wide 1856 01:58:46.319 --> 01:58:49.560 wide ability to kind of manipulate the system and block 1857 01:58:49.640 --> 01:58:52.560 these volks. And we've seen these votes bucks for months 1858 01:58:52.600 --> 01:58:55.359 and years at a time, we've had instances where the 1859 01:58:55.479 --> 01:58:57.319 votes were all cast and then they ended up getting 1860 01:58:57.359 --> 01:59:00.600 thrown out, never counted, and that's what's going on here. 1861 01:59:00.760 --> 01:59:03.520 So in the past, when there was a card check situation, 1862 01:59:04.199 --> 01:59:06.560 if enough workers got together, they could sign cards and 1863 01:59:06.640 --> 01:59:11.359 force a secret bowot vote by overturning the election protection rule, 1864 01:59:11.399 --> 01:59:14.880 which they did just last month, and that'll go into 1865 01:59:14.960 --> 01:59:19.239 effect at the end of September. Here this is now 1866 01:59:19.520 --> 01:59:21.479 no longer an option, and so you can get card 1867 01:59:21.560 --> 01:59:24.079 checked into a union, you have no ability to challenge 1868 01:59:24.119 --> 01:59:26.279 it with a secret ballot vote, and then once that 1869 01:59:26.439 --> 01:59:28.960 union's in, you could be stuck for years paying dues 1870 01:59:29.000 --> 01:59:32.720 to a union that a majority in some instances might 1871 01:59:33.039 --> 01:59:35.600 sign a petition saying we don't want but that doesn't 1872 01:59:35.640 --> 01:59:39.760 matter to the Biden Harrison l RB on Labor Day. 1873 01:59:39.880 --> 01:59:44.880 That is Patrick Simmons from the National Right to Work Foundation. 1874 01:59:46.159 --> 01:59:51.880 It's amazing, all right, Coming up, we will have Michael 1875 01:59:51.960 --> 01:59:56.560 Letts from invest USA talking about law enforcement on Labor Day. 1876 01:59:57.159 --> 02:00:01.279 This Labor Day special continues with our next guest. Of 1877 02:00:01.399 --> 02:00:04.880 course he does. He is the president, founder and CEO 1878 02:00:04.960 --> 02:00:10.760 of invest USSAY a thirty year law enforcement career, and 1879 02:00:11.199 --> 02:00:14.560 she is I've had him on numerous times because he's 1880 02:00:15.079 --> 02:00:18.479 great guest and has wonderful content. That's what we're looking 1881 02:00:18.560 --> 02:00:21.359 for all the time. Here, Gary Jeff on Labor Day 1882 02:00:21.439 --> 02:00:25.079 with the one and only Michael Letts from invest USA, 1883 02:00:25.319 --> 02:00:27.960 to talk a little bit about the border, since there 1884 02:00:28.039 --> 02:00:32.119 seems to be some kind of wobbling on the part 1885 02:00:32.279 --> 02:00:36.199 of Kamala Harris when it comes to continuing Joe Biden's 1886 02:00:36.680 --> 02:00:41.800 illegal border invasion that that administration and she's a part 1887 02:00:41.840 --> 02:00:45.239 of that. I thought she was the border tzar, but 1888 02:00:45.359 --> 02:00:49.680 apparently she's changed some of her positions or making people 1889 02:00:49.800 --> 02:00:54.039 believe she's changed some of her positions because she realizes 1890 02:00:54.520 --> 02:00:57.399 it's the only way that people will even listen to 1891 02:00:57.640 --> 02:01:01.760 her getting away from saying Stuary Cities and all of 1892 02:01:01.880 --> 02:01:05.760 the rest the Keeping Families Together program, which we will 1893 02:01:05.800 --> 02:01:11.000 talk about. Excuse me and uh and how do we 1894 02:01:11.279 --> 02:01:13.840 how do we go moving forward here if we want 1895 02:01:13.880 --> 02:01:17.319 to have an actual border in this country, which we 1896 02:01:17.520 --> 02:01:22.720 do not right now. Michael lets how are you? I'm 1897 02:01:22.800 --> 02:01:23.319 doing great? 1898 02:01:23.520 --> 02:01:26.239 Always your privilege to be on your show. It's great 1899 02:01:26.319 --> 02:01:27.840 to be with the host that wants to make sure 1900 02:01:27.840 --> 02:01:31.399 has Allie's just the truth for lacking that nowadays, and 1901 02:01:31.520 --> 02:01:32.760 thank God that you're all here. 1902 02:01:33.760 --> 02:01:38.960 So first and foremost the Keeping Families Together program, Joe 1903 02:01:39.000 --> 02:01:45.000 Biden's amnesty program, give me your just thoughts on that, 1904 02:01:45.680 --> 02:01:50.680 and hopefully Kamala Harris does not continue this because it 1905 02:01:50.760 --> 02:01:55.520 could lead to an even greater incursion. So Michael, lets 1906 02:01:55.680 --> 02:01:59.079 your thoughts on the Keeping Families Together program. It sounds 1907 02:01:59.159 --> 02:02:03.920 so American. It sounds like the compassionate human thing to do. 1908 02:02:04.920 --> 02:02:08.039 Uh, you know, and they're having to laugh so much 1909 02:02:08.159 --> 02:02:11.319 because you're right. I mean, it's the sounds like a 1910 02:02:11.439 --> 02:02:15.199 slick slogan to me, and it is. When you take 1911 02:02:15.239 --> 02:02:17.920 a look at these specifics of the program, people are asking, 1912 02:02:18.399 --> 02:02:20.520 what is what are we talking about? What is the program? Well, 1913 02:02:20.600 --> 02:02:24.159 let's quickly let your listeners know how this works. Do 1914 02:02:24.239 --> 02:02:27.720 you have two ways, ultimately legal by the way of 1915 02:02:27.880 --> 02:02:30.920 getting any of this country. You either walk across the 1916 02:02:31.039 --> 02:02:34.359 borders and you don't get caught, and so you just 1917 02:02:34.399 --> 02:02:37.239 get to go to anywhere you want to go and uh, 1918 02:02:38.000 --> 02:02:40.119 you know you're here. That's it. We don't bother to 1919 02:02:40.279 --> 02:02:44.039 force anything. Or you come across and you happen to 1920 02:02:44.119 --> 02:02:47.319 get detained. I don't fear if that's the case you 1921 02:02:47.399 --> 02:02:50.520 got detained. What happens is we take you to a 1922 02:02:50.600 --> 02:02:53.760 processing station. Now remember under the old administration, under the 1923 02:02:54.399 --> 02:02:58.039 Trump administration, we would take you there, ship you back 1924 02:02:58.079 --> 02:03:01.279 across the river. You had to either wait in Mexico 1925 02:03:01.479 --> 02:03:03.960 or wherever you need to go before you're if you 1926 02:03:04.039 --> 02:03:06.800 wanted to apply for asylum before your case was purred. 1927 02:03:07.760 --> 02:03:11.000 Now under the new administration, no, no, no, no, we 1928 02:03:11.199 --> 02:03:13.359 just give you a little pink slip that says, hey, 1929 02:03:13.800 --> 02:03:18.000 you need to report to a court at some particular 1930 02:03:18.079 --> 02:03:20.600 point in time for a court date to have your 1931 02:03:20.760 --> 02:03:23.159 case heard about asylum. Now that takes about six to 1932 02:03:23.199 --> 02:03:26.840 eight years, maybe even ten years in some ensis to 1933 02:03:26.960 --> 02:03:30.560 get that court hearing. But once you have that game, hey, 1934 02:03:30.640 --> 02:03:33.239 we as the taxpayers will pay for anywhere for you 1935 02:03:33.359 --> 02:03:35.279 to go. We'll make sure, you say, at a hotel, 1936 02:03:35.399 --> 02:03:37.520 five star hotel by the way, we go to Day's 1937 02:03:37.920 --> 02:03:40.079 halfway in this country. Make sure you have two and 1938 02:03:40.159 --> 02:03:43.439 fifteen thousand dollars per month incidental credit cards for any 1939 02:03:43.560 --> 02:03:45.720 needs you may have. We're going to welcome you with 1940 02:03:45.800 --> 02:03:48.680 open arms. Now that having been said, what is this 1941 02:03:48.800 --> 02:03:52.920 new program, Well, Biden not has in mind. You know what, 1942 02:03:53.319 --> 02:03:55.840 there's a question about where these people can vote, because 1943 02:03:56.279 --> 02:03:58.439 by the Constitution they can't. You have to be an 1944 02:03:58.439 --> 02:04:02.239 American citizen. Are all up said about illegals voting. So 1945 02:04:02.319 --> 02:04:05.479 here's what I'm gonna do. I'm going to everybody that's 1946 02:04:05.800 --> 02:04:09.840 been given a probation in this country to have a 1947 02:04:09.920 --> 02:04:13.239 hearing for political asylums. We're gonna pardon them. We're gonna 1948 02:04:13.239 --> 02:04:15.319 give them a parole. So in other words, they no 1949 02:04:15.399 --> 02:04:19.319 longer have to report in to determine their asylum. They're 1950 02:04:19.359 --> 02:04:22.000 going to be granted citizenship at some point in time 1951 02:04:22.640 --> 02:04:28.520 once they complete the requirements for citizenship. Now the only 1952 02:04:28.560 --> 02:04:30.319 what they get you too decided there are no requirements 1953 02:04:30.319 --> 02:04:32.840 of citations when you go in that way. So basically, 1954 02:04:32.920 --> 02:04:35.079 here's what they're trying to do. They're trying to all 1955 02:04:35.159 --> 02:04:36.960 these millions that we know about. 1956 02:04:37.000 --> 02:04:37.079 Now. 1957 02:04:37.119 --> 02:04:39.039 Remember there are tens of millions that have come across 1958 02:04:39.079 --> 02:04:41.039 that are illegal, that just got to what we call 1959 02:04:41.119 --> 02:04:43.199 godaways that we have no idea where they're at, right, 1960 02:04:43.479 --> 02:04:46.520 but those that we issued the little parole ticket, which 1961 02:04:46.600 --> 02:04:49.239 is pardon them all. So now they don't have to 1962 02:04:49.279 --> 02:04:51.720 come in for hearing anymore. They will be And they 1963 02:04:51.760 --> 02:04:54.920 haven't figured out the logistics this year. What does that mean? 1964 02:04:55.920 --> 02:04:58.680 Does that mean that they now go to the State 1965 02:04:58.760 --> 02:05:01.920 Department you get a green card? Does it mean that 1966 02:05:01.960 --> 02:05:06.439 they now can declare that they're American citizens before swearing in, 1967 02:05:06.520 --> 02:05:09.399 Sir line, They haven't worked out those minor details yet. 1968 02:05:10.119 --> 02:05:12.359 But what they are trying to send the messages is 1969 02:05:12.399 --> 02:05:16.760 that don't feel bad about going to vote because you 1970 02:05:16.880 --> 02:05:19.680 are no longer in violation of any laws in this country. 1971 02:05:19.760 --> 02:05:22.000 Haven't come an illegally, You've been paroled. 1972 02:05:22.399 --> 02:05:24.600 The first thing you did was break the law by 1973 02:05:24.680 --> 02:05:29.640 coming into the country illegally. And and he's he's eradicating 1974 02:05:29.760 --> 02:05:34.720 that whole philosophy, that whole principle. So that's a violation 1975 02:05:35.039 --> 02:05:37.600 of our laws, which is a violation of our constitution. 1976 02:05:38.199 --> 02:05:40.199 What why did he do Why did he do this? 1977 02:05:41.560 --> 02:05:47.159 Did he in stated to help with Kamala's campaign or 1978 02:05:47.720 --> 02:05:49.760 or the Democrat base. 1979 02:05:49.680 --> 02:05:51.880 Hit the nail on the head, all right? You see 1980 02:05:51.960 --> 02:05:55.199 they understand and the American people are saying, you know what, 1981 02:05:55.520 --> 02:05:59.159 we're getting screwed. This is bad enough of enough, You're added, 1982 02:05:59.239 --> 02:06:02.079 you're insulting us by bringing them in illegally. Then you're 1983 02:06:02.119 --> 02:06:04.199 taking my task. Dolls that are supposed to be supporting 1984 02:06:04.239 --> 02:06:08.000 the infrastructure, our veterans, et cetera, et cetera, and you're 1985 02:06:08.039 --> 02:06:10.640 taking it and give it to them when they're illegal 1986 02:06:10.720 --> 02:06:13.359 here to begin with. They're beginning to revolt against that. 1987 02:06:13.600 --> 02:06:14.239 They don't like that. 1988 02:06:15.119 --> 02:06:16.640 So in order to. 1989 02:06:16.800 --> 02:06:21.359 Tone down the negative reaction that her campaign is all getting, 1990 02:06:21.760 --> 02:06:23.800 she has slipped her position in the last twenty hours. 1991 02:06:24.159 --> 02:06:25.720 You know, we might need to put a wall up 1992 02:06:25.720 --> 02:06:28.520 after all, trying to give you the impression. Oh, I 1993 02:06:28.680 --> 02:06:31.680 do think that this illegal thing is serious. While the 1994 02:06:31.840 --> 02:06:34.359 other hand is making sure that all those that are 1995 02:06:34.439 --> 02:06:38.119 in here feel very comfortable about doing. Their whole purpose 1996 02:06:38.159 --> 02:06:41.399 in bringdom here is so that they can have election 1997 02:06:41.600 --> 02:06:44.600 fraud and change the balance of the outcome of the elections, 1998 02:06:44.640 --> 02:06:46.479 to make sure they say in power. That's what it's 1999 02:06:46.520 --> 02:06:46.960 all about. 2000 02:06:47.479 --> 02:06:52.479 Oh, certainly, if we go back to the Keeping Families 2001 02:06:52.600 --> 02:06:58.399 Together initiative of the Biden administration, it sounds a whole lot. 2002 02:06:59.119 --> 02:07:01.960 It's like you said, it's a neat little title, you know, 2003 02:07:02.079 --> 02:07:04.920 that seems to be compassionate. It's kind of like passing 2004 02:07:05.000 --> 02:07:09.279 the Inflation Reduction Act, which only made the inflation worse. 2005 02:07:10.039 --> 02:07:13.079 It did exactly the opposite of the name of the bill. 2006 02:07:14.279 --> 02:07:17.159 You're exactly what I'm laughing at is, Yes, they wanted 2007 02:07:17.199 --> 02:07:19.600 that to be patured. Here's how you make it accurate. 2008 02:07:20.039 --> 02:07:23.279 So this program doesn't apply to you unless you already 2009 02:07:23.359 --> 02:07:27.000 have legal relatives here, because you want to keep the 2010 02:07:27.000 --> 02:07:29.479 family together. We don't want to see you right break 2011 02:07:29.560 --> 02:07:31.840 up your family. But no, none of that's in it. 2012 02:07:31.920 --> 02:07:33.800 You don't even have to have any family members here. 2013 02:07:34.520 --> 02:07:36.520 But we're still trying to keep your family Jack, even 2014 02:07:36.560 --> 02:07:38.800 though none of them are here, because we think that 2015 02:07:39.000 --> 02:07:42.520 title will cause Americans to feel a string of compassion 2016 02:07:42.920 --> 02:07:45.399 and be more sympathetic to that they're trying to propose, 2017 02:07:45.680 --> 02:07:47.560 which ultimately is the destruction of this country. 2018 02:07:48.399 --> 02:07:52.359 Yeah, isn't a program like this? Shouldn't this under the 2019 02:07:52.439 --> 02:07:56.159 purview of Congress? I mean the people Congress and the 2020 02:07:56.239 --> 02:08:04.600 Democrats complained NonStop about I'm illegal subversion of subverting around 2021 02:08:04.720 --> 02:08:08.600 Congress to build the wall and to institute the executive 2022 02:08:08.680 --> 02:08:11.880 orders that he did as president. But they really don't 2023 02:08:11.960 --> 02:08:15.119 care if Congress is involved, if they're the ones in power. 2024 02:08:16.000 --> 02:08:17.039 It's not dichotomy. 2025 02:08:17.079 --> 02:08:18.640 You hit the nail on the head. You hit the 2026 02:08:18.720 --> 02:08:21.319 nail on the head. The problem with what you just said, 2027 02:08:21.359 --> 02:08:23.479 the truth not a problem. The truth to what you 2028 02:08:23.640 --> 02:08:26.199 just said, he is, whether you're a Democrat Republican is 2029 02:08:26.199 --> 02:08:31.199 irrelevant by law, by our constitution. The only one who 2030 02:08:31.319 --> 02:08:36.640 can make determination about the legality of the citizenship of 2031 02:08:37.000 --> 02:08:38.720 people coming into this country in Congress. 2032 02:08:39.119 --> 02:08:41.159 Yeah, I would think executive. 2033 02:08:40.800 --> 02:08:45.680 Brands can't decide. Okay, we've do decided that all people 2034 02:08:45.720 --> 02:08:48.840 from this country don't have to give any paper, You're 2035 02:08:48.920 --> 02:08:52.000 just automatically granted citizenship of the United States of America. 2036 02:08:52.199 --> 02:08:54.760 Can't do that, only Congress can't. But isn't it interesting 2037 02:08:55.119 --> 02:08:59.199 how this administration has never cared about what the law 2038 02:08:59.359 --> 02:09:02.600 or what the costs. Their position is, We're going to 2039 02:09:02.680 --> 02:09:04.760 do whatever it is we want to do. You don't 2040 02:09:04.880 --> 02:09:06.720 like it, okay, sue us. And then about four or 2041 02:09:06.720 --> 02:09:08.560 five years later, once't proud to get through the course 2042 02:09:08.560 --> 02:09:11.399 system if we made it a say oops, sorry, we'll 2043 02:09:11.479 --> 02:09:13.439 change it. But by then they've already done their devil. 2044 02:09:13.760 --> 02:09:17.479 Yeah, exactly. Michael Leeds is our guest. It's Gary Jeff 2045 02:09:17.560 --> 02:09:18.439 on Labor. 2046 02:09:18.199 --> 02:09:20.039 Day fifty five KRC. 2047 02:09:20.680 --> 02:09:25.039 Next month, it's Gerry Jeff on Labor Day. As we 2048 02:09:25.239 --> 02:09:29.760 continue our special programming for this special American holiday. And 2049 02:09:29.800 --> 02:09:32.960 we're talking to Michael Leeds, the president, founder and CEO 2050 02:09:33.159 --> 02:09:36.560 of INVEST USA. Before we go any farther with the 2051 02:09:36.640 --> 02:09:40.239 immigration thing, Michael, let's just talk about your organization and 2052 02:09:40.399 --> 02:09:42.319 what it does real quick. 2053 02:09:42.760 --> 02:09:45.520 Well, thank Garry, I appreciate the invest MAK sure that 2054 02:09:45.600 --> 02:09:49.199 every officer has a necessary protection to come home safe 2055 02:09:49.239 --> 02:09:52.760 to their families. We've had to change technology over the years. 2056 02:09:52.800 --> 02:09:54.039 We had concealable vests. 2057 02:09:54.079 --> 02:09:54.680 That's the best you. 2058 02:09:54.720 --> 02:09:58.600 See underneath their shirt. But unfortunately the only stop aside 2059 02:09:58.680 --> 02:10:02.039 are with this new administration and the opening of borders 2060 02:10:02.119 --> 02:10:06.760 and drug cartels, terrorists, human sex traffickers, criminals from other 2061 02:10:06.840 --> 02:10:09.840 countries pouring across our border. They are targeting our law 2062 02:10:09.880 --> 02:10:13.359 enforcementlers and they're using long range rivals assault rivals to 2063 02:10:13.439 --> 02:10:16.039 do so. They will not be stopped by conceal a 2064 02:10:16.039 --> 02:10:17.439 little this, so I'll cut right through it. So we 2065 02:10:17.520 --> 02:10:20.880 had to develop new technology called active shooter vesk have 2066 02:10:21.039 --> 02:10:23.640 titanium plates in them that will stop any around. But 2067 02:10:23.800 --> 02:10:26.279 un fourteen ninety percent of cops don't have them. The 2068 02:10:26.319 --> 02:10:28.800 criminal element knows that, and they're picking our guys and 2069 02:10:28.880 --> 02:10:31.399 gals off lifting right, Please make sure that they're able 2070 02:10:31.399 --> 02:10:32.920 to go home with their families and protect us on 2071 02:10:32.960 --> 02:10:33.800 the next day to come. 2072 02:10:34.439 --> 02:10:40.199 So the old school kevlar bulletproof vests are not up 2073 02:10:40.279 --> 02:10:42.840 to the standards they should be to protect law enforcement, 2074 02:10:42.920 --> 02:10:44.119 is what you're basically saying. 2075 02:10:45.560 --> 02:10:47.960 You know, you are correct. And the old days criminal 2076 02:10:48.680 --> 02:10:51.439 use a pistol. Nowadays they use an AK forty seven. 2077 02:10:52.279 --> 02:10:55.079 Yeah. Yeah, And I don't think the answer is to 2078 02:10:55.159 --> 02:10:58.279 outlaw the guns. We just need to make sure the 2079 02:10:58.359 --> 02:11:00.720 people who are there to uphold the law and keep 2080 02:11:00.840 --> 02:11:05.159 us safe have some protection themselves. So we talked about 2081 02:11:05.199 --> 02:11:09.279 the problems with the Biden Harris border crisis. And you know, 2082 02:11:09.479 --> 02:11:11.600 she can run away from it all she wants to, Michael, 2083 02:11:11.680 --> 02:11:14.520 but this is she is definitely a part of this. 2084 02:11:14.920 --> 02:11:17.079 She was named quote the borders are and then they 2085 02:11:17.199 --> 02:11:19.439 denied that she was ever in charge of the border. 2086 02:11:19.760 --> 02:11:22.199 Was do it When it's on tape. We can all 2087 02:11:22.319 --> 02:11:25.560 see it. We can all see the president saying I'm 2088 02:11:25.600 --> 02:11:28.439 going to put Kamala Harris in charge of this, and 2089 02:11:29.039 --> 02:11:31.479 then she claims I was just going to see the 2090 02:11:31.640 --> 02:11:35.560 root causes. Well, one of the root causes is your 2091 02:11:36.119 --> 02:11:41.119 illegal intrusion into our country, your disobeying laws that are 2092 02:11:41.159 --> 02:11:44.119 already on the books. That's a root cause of our 2093 02:11:44.239 --> 02:11:48.359 immigration crisis, not what's going on in the Triangle countries. 2094 02:11:48.840 --> 02:11:53.600 But so, what kind of solution would Michael let suggest 2095 02:11:54.439 --> 02:11:57.640 when it comes to resolving the Biden Harris border crisis. 2096 02:11:58.960 --> 02:12:01.399 Well, it's very simple. Expand first of all, on what 2097 02:12:01.520 --> 02:12:04.840 you said. Harris's position was she was able to get 2098 02:12:04.960 --> 02:12:09.760 Biden to secure three point nine billion, not million billion 2099 02:12:09.840 --> 02:12:12.319 dollars that she took in a little suitcase with her 2100 02:12:12.399 --> 02:12:16.239 down to South America and told the governments from Venezuela 2101 02:12:16.279 --> 02:12:19.079 and other continents, here's what we need to do. You 2102 02:12:19.439 --> 02:12:22.600 pay your people to stay in your country. We're going 2103 02:12:22.680 --> 02:12:25.000 to help with their economic situation. They don't need to 2104 02:12:25.039 --> 02:12:27.520 come to America. Well, they're not stupid down there, they 2105 02:12:27.560 --> 02:12:30.000 spout said sure, and then they paid them and the 2106 02:12:30.119 --> 02:12:31.920 people said, okay, I'll wait a day. I'll just take 2107 02:12:31.960 --> 02:12:33.560 your money to day and I'll go to borrow in America. 2108 02:12:34.039 --> 02:12:36.479 And that's what they did. That is her solution, when 2109 02:12:36.479 --> 02:12:39.119 the real solution would have been what every American knows. 2110 02:12:39.720 --> 02:12:44.319 Close the borders, put military units the same as they 2111 02:12:44.359 --> 02:12:47.439 do in other countries, and make sure these borders are secure. 2112 02:12:47.880 --> 02:12:50.600 You are welcome to come through the processes that Congress 2113 02:12:50.720 --> 02:12:53.039 hasn't acted to allow you to be here. You are 2114 02:12:53.159 --> 02:12:56.520 not welcome to come spy or invade, or decide to 2115 02:12:56.560 --> 02:12:58.760 bring your drugs or decide to hurt our people any 2116 02:12:58.800 --> 02:13:01.239 other way, and you you dealt with severely should you 2117 02:13:01.319 --> 02:13:03.520 try to do so. That was shut it down immediately. 2118 02:13:04.279 --> 02:13:09.880 I just referenced this report from last week from Aurora, Colorado. 2119 02:13:10.119 --> 02:13:15.319 Of course, Colorado being a sanctuary state thanks to their 2120 02:13:15.920 --> 02:13:21.000 do nothing, know nothing governor Polis, But in Aurora, Colorado 2121 02:13:21.199 --> 02:13:24.560 right now, pretty good distance from the border, there are 2122 02:13:24.800 --> 02:13:29.479 entire city blocks of this town that they never saw 2123 02:13:29.560 --> 02:13:32.239 this before, They never asked for they'd never bargained for it, 2124 02:13:32.399 --> 02:13:36.760 for sure, with their sanctuary state status, but their entire 2125 02:13:37.039 --> 02:13:40.800 city blocks of Aurora, Colorado, big swaths of this town 2126 02:13:41.640 --> 02:13:44.960 that have been taken over by this very violent Venezuelan gang. 2127 02:13:45.000 --> 02:13:48.119 We've all heard about MS thirteen, but these guys that 2128 02:13:48.199 --> 02:13:50.479 were released from prison and allowed to come here from 2129 02:13:50.560 --> 02:13:54.640 Venezuela are even worse, and they are taking over apartment 2130 02:13:54.720 --> 02:13:59.359 complexes and businesses and running rough shot over the citizens 2131 02:13:59.399 --> 02:14:03.560 of this country free and it has all been just 2132 02:14:03.760 --> 02:14:06.840 during the last three and a half years of this invasion. 2133 02:14:07.920 --> 02:14:08.479 It's insane. 2134 02:14:08.800 --> 02:14:11.760 Correct, it's called the well, that's the gang. We're talking 2135 02:14:11.760 --> 02:14:14.720 about other data something to honest signature. People need to understand. 2136 02:14:15.239 --> 02:14:21.479 We now have gang activity and cartels in every state 2137 02:14:21.560 --> 02:14:25.039 of the all fifty states, something that's never happened before. 2138 02:14:25.079 --> 02:14:28.279 They are all cooperating, working together. The old days needs 2139 02:14:28.279 --> 02:14:31.359 to kill each other off, trying to you know, claim territory. 2140 02:14:31.600 --> 02:14:34.760 Now they're cooperating, working together, and for the first time, 2141 02:14:34.840 --> 02:14:39.399 intelligence sources worldwide now tell us that they are cooperating 2142 02:14:39.479 --> 02:14:43.640 with foreign governments, enemies of the United States, Iran and others, 2143 02:14:43.960 --> 02:14:47.720 who are paying them to create habits in this country, 2144 02:14:48.079 --> 02:14:51.119 to kill law enforcement officers and to set the stage 2145 02:14:51.199 --> 02:14:52.159 for terrorist attacks. 2146 02:14:52.319 --> 02:14:55.439 Yeah, they were given in Aurora, Colorado, we know for 2147 02:14:55.600 --> 02:14:58.880 a fact, and your stay as you as you well 2148 02:14:58.960 --> 02:15:01.640 stated it, it's in all over the country. But in 2149 02:15:02.439 --> 02:15:06.239 these gangs, this Venezuelan gang has been given the green 2150 02:15:06.319 --> 02:15:10.479 light to attack law enforcement officers if they're confronted and 2151 02:15:10.720 --> 02:15:12.920 they've been doing it. They have been doing it. 2152 02:15:13.920 --> 02:15:16.279 It's amazing and you know, you asked what we need 2153 02:15:16.359 --> 02:15:18.520 to do to change in Look, here we have the 2154 02:15:18.600 --> 02:15:22.640 greatest law enforcement. What's left of it anyway. The greatest 2155 02:15:22.720 --> 02:15:27.800 law enforcement, the greatest special forces in the world, and 2156 02:15:27.920 --> 02:15:31.159 as time we quit worried about at lasting everybody else's 2157 02:15:31.199 --> 02:15:35.279 country and start doing our own. Secure our borders. We 2158 02:15:35.479 --> 02:15:38.720 have the intelligence, our served in intelligence agencies. We have 2159 02:15:38.840 --> 02:15:41.000 the intelligence. We know exactly where these people are at. 2160 02:15:41.439 --> 02:15:45.359 Turn us loose, give us twenty four hours, we'll track 2161 02:15:45.479 --> 02:15:47.800 down every one of them and we'll send them back 2162 02:15:47.840 --> 02:15:50.399 to Hell where they belong. And that's exactly what we 2163 02:15:50.520 --> 02:15:53.119 need to do and secure this country for our future 2164 02:15:53.199 --> 02:15:56.119 children and our grandchildren, it generations to come. 2165 02:15:57.000 --> 02:16:01.399 In closing, Michael Letts tell me about Restoring Justice US. 2166 02:16:02.079 --> 02:16:03.039 It's a new initiative. 2167 02:16:04.319 --> 02:16:06.279 It is a new initiative. Restoring Justice US is a 2168 02:16:06.359 --> 02:16:10.279 too prong approach. Care invest USA is making sure we 2169 02:16:10.359 --> 02:16:13.640 protect our officers. They component safety to their families. Restoring 2170 02:16:13.880 --> 02:16:18.039 justice means reworking our judicial system, because you cannot have 2171 02:16:18.239 --> 02:16:20.680 the best law enforcement but a two tier justice system. 2172 02:16:21.079 --> 02:16:24.000 Nobody will respect it. We have that today. Everybody knows it. 2173 02:16:24.399 --> 02:16:26.520 You have to be one class, you get treated one way. 2174 02:16:26.840 --> 02:16:28.560 You have to be one party, you get treated another. 2175 02:16:28.960 --> 02:16:31.439 It's time to redo our judicital system so that it 2176 02:16:31.600 --> 02:16:34.399 is liberty and justice for all equally, which is what 2177 02:16:34.479 --> 02:16:37.639 our founding followers have always thought this country should be, 2178 02:16:38.040 --> 02:16:39.239 and it's time we bring that back. 2179 02:16:39.600 --> 02:16:43.040 How do people find out more about Restoring Justice dot us? 2180 02:16:44.639 --> 02:16:47.120 Go to our website Restoring Justice dot us. They can 2181 02:16:47.239 --> 02:16:50.520 follow everything that we're doing there as well, and just 2182 02:16:50.639 --> 02:16:53.239 remember that's the key. We have to rework our judicital 2183 02:16:53.239 --> 02:16:56.680 system as well. No longer can we have activist judges 2184 02:16:57.159 --> 02:16:59.000 people like that that want to thank if they can 2185 02:16:59.200 --> 02:17:02.479 create legislation from the bench, because nobody in America except 2186 02:17:02.879 --> 02:17:04.239 what's being done in the other way. 2187 02:17:05.000 --> 02:17:07.000 Michael, lets thank you so much for being a part 2188 02:17:07.040 --> 02:17:09.440 of our Labor Day show. I appreciate it so much. 2189 02:17:09.520 --> 02:17:12.440 Jun thank you, God bless you, and God bless America. 2190 02:17:12.520 --> 02:17:13.440 Have a great Labor Day. 2191 02:17:13.959 --> 02:17:15.760 It's Gary Jeff fun Labor. 2192 02:17:15.559 --> 02:17:18.719 Day, fifty five krc AH the Rooster's. 2193 02:17:18.360 --> 02:17:22.879 Crown and the weather is just beautiful today. I up 2194 02:17:22.920 --> 02:17:26.360 to seventy nine. It is sixty one now at fifty 2195 02:17:26.440 --> 02:17:34.879 five KRCV Talk station. We continue this Labor Day extravaganza. 2196 02:17:35.639 --> 02:17:39.719 Our next guest I not know a whole lot about her, 2197 02:17:39.840 --> 02:17:42.200 So the first part we'll be learning a little bit 2198 02:17:42.239 --> 02:17:46.399 more about our guest, Gretchen Wallart, who is, among other things, 2199 02:17:46.760 --> 02:17:49.040 she's a wife and mother. We know that we know 2200 02:17:49.159 --> 02:17:51.399 that she's out in the middle of nowhere, which is 2201 02:17:51.559 --> 02:17:54.360 someplace that sounds very appealing to me. And she's the 2202 02:17:54.440 --> 02:17:58.360 author of The Magic and Mayhem of Donald Trump. And Gretchen, 2203 02:17:58.959 --> 02:17:59.799 welcome to the show. 2204 02:18:01.520 --> 02:18:02.639 I'm so glad to be here. 2205 02:18:03.399 --> 02:18:07.879 Great to have you. So anyway, the first thing I 2206 02:18:08.040 --> 02:18:10.920 thought when I see any book title with Donald Trump, 2207 02:18:11.000 --> 02:18:14.440 I said, this is gonna sell some copies. Donald Trump 2208 02:18:14.920 --> 02:18:19.520 is gold. Whether it's a riveting expose a I mean 2209 02:18:19.639 --> 02:18:22.399 what Hillary paid what nine million dollars for a story 2210 02:18:22.479 --> 02:18:29.440 on Donald Trump. So it's either people are diehard Trump's 2211 02:18:29.440 --> 02:18:32.159 supporters and they see a title with Donald Trump, or 2212 02:18:32.719 --> 02:18:35.280 they're big time detractors of Donald Trump, and there are 2213 02:18:35.440 --> 02:18:39.159 certainly plenty of both in this country. And they see 2214 02:18:39.200 --> 02:18:41.639 Donald Trump they want to learn more about who they 2215 02:18:41.719 --> 02:18:45.799 hate so much, whether there's any reasonability towards that hatred 2216 02:18:45.920 --> 02:18:49.479 or not. So I commend you on the title. This 2217 02:18:49.680 --> 02:18:54.479 is good. And in this book you kind of talk 2218 02:18:54.559 --> 02:18:58.040 about that deep divide in the country, and there is 2219 02:18:58.159 --> 02:19:00.399 some magic to the man, no doubt about it. And 2220 02:19:00.840 --> 02:19:04.680 mayhem seems to follow him around or be injected into 2221 02:19:04.760 --> 02:19:09.000 hers persona by the media and other places. So tell 2222 02:19:09.040 --> 02:19:12.159 me a little bit about you first. Who's Gretchen Waller 2223 02:19:12.239 --> 02:19:14.959 besides a wife and mom in Wyoming? 2224 02:19:16.600 --> 02:19:20.680 Well, we farm and ranch here in Wyoming where we 2225 02:19:20.840 --> 02:19:26.600 call it God Country. It's it's southeast Wyoming. We have 2226 02:19:26.760 --> 02:19:32.879 a small business. I'm a teacher by education. I've got 2227 02:19:32.920 --> 02:19:36.680 a history and English degree and I have taught fourth 2228 02:19:36.719 --> 02:19:39.280 and fifth grade for years, not currently teaching right now. 2229 02:19:40.559 --> 02:19:42.120 I'm involved in politics. 2230 02:19:42.239 --> 02:19:42.799 My husband. 2231 02:19:43.879 --> 02:19:47.719 We have cattle, We raise cattle, we raise alfalfa corn. 2232 02:19:49.040 --> 02:19:52.520 So yeah, we're just kind of ordinary people out here 2233 02:19:52.600 --> 02:19:57.639 in Wyoming. But you know my book Magic and Mayhem 2234 02:19:57.719 --> 02:20:00.840 of Donald Trump. That began in twenty sixteen when when 2235 02:20:00.879 --> 02:20:03.680 Donald Trump came on the stage and I saw similarities. 2236 02:20:04.239 --> 02:20:07.799 You know, as a teacher, I've taught Abraham Lincoln for 2237 02:20:08.000 --> 02:20:12.239 years to young people and thought I knew a lot 2238 02:20:12.239 --> 02:20:15.879 about him, But turns out I didn't know a lot 2239 02:20:16.559 --> 02:20:19.520 about Abraham Lincoln and how similar he and Donald Trump 2240 02:20:19.639 --> 02:20:22.959 really are. But that started my first book, Born to 2241 02:20:23.040 --> 02:20:26.040 Fight Lincoln and Trump, and then this one came out 2242 02:20:26.120 --> 02:20:30.559 of that. This is a strategic excerpt of that and 2243 02:20:31.520 --> 02:20:36.680 just being able to see from a distance of who 2244 02:20:36.920 --> 02:20:40.920 this this incredible enigma. And I call him that Donald Trump, 2245 02:20:41.360 --> 02:20:45.840 you know who. The Democrats can't start stop talking about him. 2246 02:20:45.879 --> 02:20:47.760 He is he is everything. 2247 02:20:47.840 --> 02:20:48.000 You know. 2248 02:20:48.200 --> 02:20:50.600 That's the way it was with Lincoln in our divided 2249 02:20:50.719 --> 02:20:54.520 nation as well. And we are so divided today. And 2250 02:20:54.959 --> 02:21:00.760 you know, the magic and Mayhem passination wants to incarcerat 2251 02:21:00.840 --> 02:21:05.440 Donald Trump just because they hate him because he stood 2252 02:21:05.520 --> 02:21:09.719 up and wants to stop their vision of America, which 2253 02:21:09.840 --> 02:21:16.840 is you know, socialist and globalistic, apologetic, weak and government 2254 02:21:16.920 --> 02:21:20.200 control people and and uh, you know, but the other 2255 02:21:20.280 --> 02:21:24.280 half of the nation, they they want, uh, they almost 2256 02:21:26.399 --> 02:21:28.079 want to make him into a saint. But there is 2257 02:21:28.159 --> 02:21:29.000 a happy medium. 2258 02:21:29.520 --> 02:21:29.600 Uh. 2259 02:21:29.680 --> 02:21:32.559 There's magic to him, there's mayhem to him, and most 2260 02:21:32.600 --> 02:21:34.520 of it is attached to him, but a lot of 2261 02:21:34.559 --> 02:21:38.520 it he does himself. What he says, of course, comes out. 2262 02:21:38.360 --> 02:21:38.799 Of his mouth. 2263 02:21:38.879 --> 02:21:40.799 He doesn't have a filter. But you know, I think 2264 02:21:40.840 --> 02:21:42.719 about that, and I think, you know, if we only 2265 02:21:42.799 --> 02:21:47.000 knew what Donald Trump didn't say, then we would maybe 2266 02:21:47.079 --> 02:21:51.200 appreciate that a little more in the things that come 2267 02:21:51.239 --> 02:21:52.680 out of his mouth that we don't like, and that 2268 02:21:53.120 --> 02:21:56.360 is a lot of the mayhem. But but but you know, 2269 02:21:56.479 --> 02:21:59.399 he's an ordinary person, and there's there's. 2270 02:21:59.280 --> 02:21:59.959 Good and there's bad. 2271 02:22:00.520 --> 02:22:02.879 But one thing he's doing is he's a fighter and 2272 02:22:03.040 --> 02:22:06.440 he's standing up and he's fighting for our side right now. 2273 02:22:06.959 --> 02:22:09.760 And part of that magic is he does not give up. 2274 02:22:10.319 --> 02:22:14.040 And that's incredible at this point in history leading up 2275 02:22:14.079 --> 02:22:15.200 to this selection. 2276 02:22:15.120 --> 02:22:19.360 Gretchen, that fighter in Donald Trump that you mentioned was 2277 02:22:19.479 --> 02:22:24.799 never on more clear display than on July thirteenth, when 2278 02:22:25.040 --> 02:22:28.360 an assassin's bullet took off part of his ear and 2279 02:22:28.639 --> 02:22:33.239 we almost lost him. And that fight, fight, fight, that 2280 02:22:33.319 --> 02:22:36.440 he came up from the podium, much to some of 2281 02:22:36.520 --> 02:22:40.559 the Secret services chagrin, making himself a target again in 2282 02:22:40.639 --> 02:22:43.719 case there was a second shooter. That fight, fight, fight thing, 2283 02:22:44.040 --> 02:22:47.239 you're right, has been there from the very beginning, and 2284 02:22:47.360 --> 02:22:52.159 it is fighting against the status quo in Washington and 2285 02:22:53.000 --> 02:22:57.239 in these political circles inside the Beltway. It's fighting against 2286 02:22:57.479 --> 02:23:02.159 the status quo of well, the government's really in charge, 2287 02:23:02.239 --> 02:23:05.920 the people aren't in charge. You're just pleabs to make 2288 02:23:06.000 --> 02:23:09.239 sure we fill our tax coffers and keep us in power. 2289 02:23:09.520 --> 02:23:12.479 And that's how it feels to me personally. So I 2290 02:23:12.559 --> 02:23:16.719 wouldn't say that I view the president President Trump as 2291 02:23:16.959 --> 02:23:21.399 a savior necessarily, but I surely think that we're at 2292 02:23:21.479 --> 02:23:24.959 this turning point. If we don't have someone with Donald 2293 02:23:25.000 --> 02:23:29.959 Trump's moxie and Donald Trump's bravery, we don't get out 2294 02:23:30.000 --> 02:23:33.440 of this hole that we've been put in by big government, 2295 02:23:33.520 --> 02:23:34.520 by obese government. 2296 02:23:36.280 --> 02:23:41.600 That's true, you know, when the assassination attempt happened. Of 2297 02:23:41.680 --> 02:23:45.959 course that is iconic now, but that is Donald Trump's nature. 2298 02:23:46.200 --> 02:23:49.520 He is a fighter, and in times like that, when 2299 02:23:49.559 --> 02:23:54.440 you realize that they're trying to kill me because of 2300 02:23:54.559 --> 02:23:58.440 what I'm doing, that is his nature. He spent a lifetime, 2301 02:23:59.159 --> 02:24:02.799 you know, punching and fighting and standing up. And one 2302 02:24:02.879 --> 02:24:06.520 thing that I sound interesting, you know, the people that 2303 02:24:06.719 --> 02:24:09.360 don't like all the things he says, and the fact 2304 02:24:09.399 --> 02:24:12.360 that he is completely transparent and simply says what's in 2305 02:24:12.440 --> 02:24:15.920 his head. That's a part of his mayhem, but you know, part. 2306 02:24:15.719 --> 02:24:17.520 Of you know who he is. 2307 02:24:18.920 --> 02:24:22.799 I know he's he's one person. What he says, does 2308 02:24:23.079 --> 02:24:25.959 and thinks is all the same thing. But some people, 2309 02:24:26.200 --> 02:24:28.360 you know, and and Donald Trump is the first who 2310 02:24:28.399 --> 02:24:31.280 had admit he said it was God alone who prevented 2311 02:24:31.319 --> 02:24:34.879 the unthinkable on that day. But I listened to Christians 2312 02:24:34.920 --> 02:24:39.440 and friends of mine and they said, well, I hope 2313 02:24:39.479 --> 02:24:43.360 Donald Trump now is is humble and and you know, 2314 02:24:43.559 --> 02:24:45.840 and I thought he did have a little bit of 2315 02:24:45.920 --> 02:24:48.959 different attitude at the r n C. I think there was, 2316 02:24:49.280 --> 02:24:51.479 but you know what, Donald Trump is going to be 2317 02:24:51.600 --> 02:24:54.520 Donald Trump's. He is not going to change. But what 2318 02:24:54.680 --> 02:24:58.399 it did do is it absolutely made him come out 2319 02:24:59.000 --> 02:25:02.959 doubling down on fighting. And you know, he spent a 2320 02:25:03.040 --> 02:25:06.799 lifetime where people said if something was impossible, he would 2321 02:25:06.840 --> 02:25:07.719 figure out a way. 2322 02:25:07.600 --> 02:25:08.159 To get it done. 2323 02:25:08.280 --> 02:25:12.120 And that's what he does. And what that did, that 2324 02:25:12.239 --> 02:25:16.680 assassination attempt did was even even make him more firm 2325 02:25:17.239 --> 02:25:22.120 in fighting for America and bringing back all of that 2326 02:25:22.319 --> 02:25:24.639 stuff that we have lost in the last four years 2327 02:25:24.840 --> 02:25:29.799 and will lose if this election does not go our way, 2328 02:25:30.639 --> 02:25:35.559 meaning you know, the America First Mega Donald Trump. It 2329 02:25:35.719 --> 02:25:39.959 is incredibly we're at a crossroads and this is the 2330 02:25:40.079 --> 02:25:42.280 election that's going to do it. And it's a tough 2331 02:25:42.399 --> 02:25:45.559 job ahead. But Donald Trump is he's a fighter and 2332 02:25:45.920 --> 02:25:49.840 he's ready for the job. He's he just won't go away. 2333 02:25:50.000 --> 02:25:53.000 And thank goodness for that, Thank goodness for that, Tonya 2334 02:25:53.079 --> 02:25:56.559 Gregen Wallert, the author of the Magic and Mayhem of 2335 02:25:56.680 --> 02:26:00.760 Donald Trump. And we've got more conversation coming up. Gary 2336 02:26:00.840 --> 02:26:02.000 Jeff with you on Labor Day. 2337 02:26:02.280 --> 02:26:05.520 This is fifty five KRC and iHeartRadio Station. 2338 02:26:06.239 --> 02:26:09.399 The author of the Magic in Mayhem of Donald Trump, 2339 02:26:09.520 --> 02:26:15.200 a teacher by trade, the wife and a farmer's wife. See. 2340 02:26:15.239 --> 02:26:18.840 I come from farmers stock. I was born in Mount Pleasant, Iowa, 2341 02:26:18.959 --> 02:26:21.399 from a long line of people on one side of 2342 02:26:21.440 --> 02:26:24.079 my family were farmers. And every time I go back, 2343 02:26:24.639 --> 02:26:27.360 I haven't lived there more than a couple of months 2344 02:26:27.399 --> 02:26:30.399 of my early life, but visited several times to see 2345 02:26:30.479 --> 02:26:33.760 relatives and stuff who still live there. And every time 2346 02:26:33.840 --> 02:26:36.079 I go there, I feel at home out in the middle, 2347 02:26:36.120 --> 02:26:40.600 as you said, middle of nowhere, where most a lot 2348 02:26:40.639 --> 02:26:46.079 of Americans live and are very, very productive and very patriotic. Gretchen, 2349 02:26:46.680 --> 02:26:51.559 we were talking about the Trump assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania, 2350 02:26:52.639 --> 02:26:57.479 and his first outdoor rally after that was in Ashboro, 2351 02:26:57.639 --> 02:26:59.879 North Carolina. This is Labor Day, so it's been about 2352 02:26:59.879 --> 02:27:03.479 a week and a half ago, and the Secret Service 2353 02:27:03.920 --> 02:27:09.399 put up these big plexiglass bulletproof kind of blinders on 2354 02:27:09.559 --> 02:27:12.159 either side and in front of the podium where he 2355 02:27:12.360 --> 02:27:18.079 was speaking, and all of a sudden, there is something 2356 02:27:18.159 --> 02:27:20.239 a commotion going on to the left part of the 2357 02:27:20.319 --> 02:27:25.319 stage and he stops his speech and he's he's doing 2358 02:27:25.360 --> 02:27:27.920 real well. He's cooking along there, getting the message out 2359 02:27:27.959 --> 02:27:30.680 and being Donald Trump. And he stops the message all 2360 02:27:30.719 --> 02:27:33.200 of a sudden mid sentence because he hears his commotion. 2361 02:27:33.319 --> 02:27:35.760 He looks to his left and he said, is there 2362 02:27:35.799 --> 02:27:39.559 a problem? And somebody from over there calls and said, 2363 02:27:39.600 --> 02:27:41.479 we need a doctor, and he just turns and goes, 2364 02:27:41.600 --> 02:27:45.600 doctor please, and he stops again. You know that there 2365 02:27:45.719 --> 02:27:48.120 was somebody on the way to help this person who 2366 02:27:48.200 --> 02:27:50.280 had passed out or what are in the heat of 2367 02:27:50.319 --> 02:27:54.239 the day at this Donald Trump rally in Ashboro, North Carolina, 2368 02:27:54.639 --> 02:27:57.920 and he stops and he waited till somebody got over there, 2369 02:27:58.600 --> 02:28:03.159 and he waited to see that the woman was okay. Now, 2370 02:28:03.440 --> 02:28:07.479 I don't think there's any other candidate that I've seen 2371 02:28:07.559 --> 02:28:10.600 in a long time who would stop an important campaign 2372 02:28:10.680 --> 02:28:13.680 stump speech in a state he's gotta win North Carolina 2373 02:28:14.360 --> 02:28:17.239 because somebody passes out or has a little issue. But 2374 02:28:17.559 --> 02:28:20.799 Donald Trump completely stopped until the doctor got over there, 2375 02:28:21.399 --> 02:28:23.280 attended to the woman and she was back up on 2376 02:28:23.360 --> 02:28:27.600 her feet again, and then to the freaking out Secret 2377 02:28:27.680 --> 02:28:31.399 Service agents. I'm sure Donald Trump just walks off the stage. 2378 02:28:31.399 --> 02:28:33.760 He bulleted off the stage to where this woman was 2379 02:28:33.840 --> 02:28:37.120 sitting in the front row and comes over and talks 2380 02:28:37.159 --> 02:28:39.159 to her, make sure she's okay, right in the middle 2381 02:28:39.159 --> 02:28:41.680 of the speech. And Secret Services. God, we put this 2382 02:28:41.799 --> 02:28:43.600 pleacey glass up in front of him, and here he 2383 02:28:43.799 --> 02:28:48.479 is unprotected going off these steps. And it said more 2384 02:28:48.559 --> 02:28:52.239 to me about Donald Trump than any speech he could 2385 02:28:52.280 --> 02:28:56.479 have given, was that in that moment, his speech wasn't important. 2386 02:28:56.799 --> 02:28:59.680 What was important was his supporter who was having a 2387 02:28:59.719 --> 02:29:02.360 meta issue, and he went over and gave her a 2388 02:29:02.479 --> 02:29:05.159 hug and talked to her, then came back up to 2389 02:29:05.239 --> 02:29:07.600 the stage with Secret Service do to do to do, 2390 02:29:07.799 --> 02:29:10.719 following and making sure nobody else took a shot at him, 2391 02:29:11.159 --> 02:29:15.920 and continued his speech. Picked it right up. But see 2392 02:29:16.079 --> 02:29:18.799 that this says more to me about the magic of 2393 02:29:18.879 --> 02:29:21.760 Donald Trump than maybe anything else. Your thoughts on the. 2394 02:29:23.280 --> 02:29:24.399 Well, definitely we. 2395 02:29:24.799 --> 02:29:25.680 Talked about. 2396 02:29:27.120 --> 02:29:30.799 You know how real Donald Trump is. You know all 2397 02:29:30.879 --> 02:29:35.079 the lies, anything the Democrats say about him, You just 2398 02:29:35.239 --> 02:29:38.440 need to interpret them properly. Whatever they say is exactly 2399 02:29:38.520 --> 02:29:44.159 the opposite of what is true. Donald Trump has great empathy. 2400 02:29:44.639 --> 02:29:48.120 He has a moral core, and I'm not talking about 2401 02:29:48.280 --> 02:29:51.399 you know, he had an affair or whatever. You know, 2402 02:29:51.520 --> 02:29:54.639 he does have flaws, but he's got this intense sense 2403 02:29:55.040 --> 02:29:58.520 of right and wrong, and he truly loves people. And 2404 02:29:58.639 --> 02:30:02.000 we don't see that because he spent a lifetime also 2405 02:30:02.799 --> 02:30:07.520 creating this facade that is his business, is his you know, 2406 02:30:07.719 --> 02:30:12.639 larger than life personality. It's all showmanship. But he does 2407 02:30:12.840 --> 02:30:17.280 have this heart and soul that is underneath that facade, 2408 02:30:17.360 --> 02:30:19.360 and it was on full display that day. 2409 02:30:19.799 --> 02:30:20.719 You know, we saw it. 2410 02:30:21.280 --> 02:30:24.840 And you know, the comparison between Lincoln and Trump. One 2411 02:30:24.920 --> 02:30:30.719 thing about both of these incredible American leaders is they 2412 02:30:30.799 --> 02:30:35.360 were not concerned for their safety. Their message was number one, 2413 02:30:35.959 --> 02:30:41.600 their absolute laser focus in Abraham Lincoln winning the war, 2414 02:30:42.159 --> 02:30:44.719 you know, first winning the election, then winning the war 2415 02:30:44.959 --> 02:30:50.239 and all of the maneuvering political and otherwise that went 2416 02:30:50.360 --> 02:30:55.079 with that, not caring for his personal safety. And Donald 2417 02:30:55.079 --> 02:30:58.600 Trump the same, He is laser focused on making America 2418 02:30:58.680 --> 02:31:02.559 great again. You know, I'm hoping that America is starting 2419 02:31:02.600 --> 02:31:05.959 to think again because you know, like I said, this 2420 02:31:06.159 --> 02:31:10.159 is an incredible turning point that we are coming to 2421 02:31:10.959 --> 02:31:14.799 and Donald Trump also has that sense that there is 2422 02:31:15.360 --> 02:31:19.120 a higher power than himself who is in charge. That's 2423 02:31:19.239 --> 02:31:23.079 important too, and that goes along with his fearlessness. He's 2424 02:31:23.120 --> 02:31:26.559 a fighter, he's fearless, but also he has a sense 2425 02:31:26.719 --> 02:31:31.040 that that God is in charge and he is doing 2426 02:31:31.159 --> 02:31:36.959 his best to be in that will of you know, 2427 02:31:37.159 --> 02:31:41.879 the divine providence on America. And we just hope and 2428 02:31:42.000 --> 02:31:46.280 pray that God saving him from that one bullet, is 2429 02:31:46.360 --> 02:31:50.000 going to continue through you know what Lincoln had to 2430 02:31:50.200 --> 02:31:56.120 endure in administering the Civil War and fighting that, and 2431 02:31:56.239 --> 02:31:59.639 that Donald Trump is able to get so many things 2432 02:31:59.760 --> 02:32:02.920 done and and it's it's going to be puffed because 2433 02:32:03.559 --> 02:32:08.000 he has he has what Lincoln said, smoked those skunks 2434 02:32:08.079 --> 02:32:11.920 out from under the barn. And now all hell has 2435 02:32:12.000 --> 02:32:15.760 broken loose. And you think it's bad, now, Uh, it's 2436 02:32:16.000 --> 02:32:20.479 it's come November fifth and it's Donald Trump who is president. 2437 02:32:20.840 --> 02:32:26.079 That is that's going to be an incredible fight the 2438 02:32:26.159 --> 02:32:26.959 beginning of it. 2439 02:32:27.239 --> 02:32:30.520 Right, Yeah, you're right. I think the election is only 2440 02:32:30.680 --> 02:32:35.559 the prelude to what is what we're going to have 2441 02:32:35.680 --> 02:32:40.200 to deal with afterwards. If Donald Trump, you know, amen, 2442 02:32:40.319 --> 02:32:45.440 praise God, echo your words. Is our president again. You know, 2443 02:32:45.559 --> 02:32:48.200 he faces the same thing that Lincoln faced. That they 2444 02:32:48.280 --> 02:32:50.399 knew if Lincoln was elected there was going to be 2445 02:32:51.200 --> 02:32:54.399 a civil war in this country because of his refusal 2446 02:32:54.520 --> 02:32:59.639 to accept slavery on this continent and for Donald Trump's 2447 02:32:59.680 --> 02:33:05.440 refuse usual to accept globalist Marxist takeover of every American life. 2448 02:33:06.680 --> 02:33:11.600 The other side, they're very powerful, and they are they 2449 02:33:11.680 --> 02:33:14.719 will stop at nothing to retain powers. So it's going 2450 02:33:14.799 --> 02:33:18.799 to be they say, oh, you're living in interesting times. 2451 02:33:20.319 --> 02:33:23.040 I think I don't know how much interesting I want, 2452 02:33:23.239 --> 02:33:26.079 but I definitely want Donald Trump back in the White House, 2453 02:33:26.159 --> 02:33:28.760 There's no doubt about that. Just to save the country. 2454 02:33:30.719 --> 02:33:35.680 Yes, interesting kids, that's an understatement, by the way. But 2455 02:33:35.959 --> 02:33:38.079 you know one thing that is so similar with what 2456 02:33:38.159 --> 02:33:41.520 the Democrats were doing, and they were Southern Democrats, but 2457 02:33:41.680 --> 02:33:44.680 you know the northern Democrats also, Lincoln discovered that there 2458 02:33:44.719 --> 02:33:48.120 were no anti slavery Democrats. They were all for slavery. 2459 02:33:48.200 --> 02:33:51.000 But it was the South that succeeded. And what the 2460 02:33:51.079 --> 02:33:55.760 Democrats did there is and the reason that they suceeded, 2461 02:33:56.000 --> 02:33:59.079 of course, to have the freedom to have their slaves 2462 02:33:59.239 --> 02:34:01.319 is what they said, which Abraham Lincoln. 2463 02:34:01.079 --> 02:34:03.479 Said, Wait a minute, that is just hypocritical. 2464 02:34:04.079 --> 02:34:08.840 But Democrats demolish boundaries, and they wanted slavery everywhere. They 2465 02:34:08.920 --> 02:34:13.639 wanted in northern factories, and they started ramming legislation through Congress, 2466 02:34:13.879 --> 02:34:17.840 the Kansas Nebraska Act, and the Supreme Court dread Scott decision, 2467 02:34:17.959 --> 02:34:21.639 which was demolishing all of those boundaries for that, and 2468 02:34:21.719 --> 02:34:25.319 the Democrats that's what they do today. They completely are 2469 02:34:25.440 --> 02:34:28.360 demolishing boundaries. I think every one hundred and fifty years 2470 02:34:28.799 --> 02:34:31.719 the Democrats go off the deep end, and this is 2471 02:34:31.840 --> 02:34:36.040 that time. They're demolishing, you know, abortion boundaries, which is 2472 02:34:36.280 --> 02:34:41.520 us just huge. They're demolishing moral boundaries with the craziness 2473 02:34:41.719 --> 02:34:46.680 with the transgender and all of that. It's what they do. 2474 02:34:46.920 --> 02:34:49.399 It's what the Democrat Party does, and they're doing it 2475 02:34:50.040 --> 02:34:52.959 incredibly now, just like they did in Abraham Lincoln's time. 2476 02:34:53.760 --> 02:34:55.440 Lincoln was the one they wanted to get rid of 2477 02:34:55.559 --> 02:34:57.719 because he stood in the way. Trump is the one 2478 02:34:57.760 --> 02:34:59.799 they want to get rid of now because he is 2479 02:35:00.559 --> 02:35:00.799 the way. 2480 02:35:01.159 --> 02:35:04.040 Absolutely. Gretchen Wallert, thank you so much for your time 2481 02:35:04.079 --> 02:35:06.719 on this Labor Day holiday. The book is the magic 2482 02:35:07.079 --> 02:35:10.600 and the mayhem of Donald Trump, and hopefully we get 2483 02:35:10.639 --> 02:35:13.239 to see a whole lot more of that on display. Gretchen, 2484 02:35:13.319 --> 02:35:16.520 thank you very much. It is Labor Day. I'm Gary 2485 02:35:16.600 --> 02:35:17.520 Jeff Walker. 2486 02:35:17.559 --> 02:35:18.639 Fifty five KRC. 2487 02:35:20.040 --> 02:35:22.719 Once again, thanks for being with us on Labor Day. 2488 02:35:23.000 --> 02:35:26.040 A pleasant day, sunshine up to seventy nine. The humidity 2489 02:35:26.120 --> 02:35:29.879 is gone. Joy. I love it when Brian takes off 2490 02:35:29.920 --> 02:35:32.239 because I get a chance to be with you and 2491 02:35:32.879 --> 02:35:35.360 until the next time. Thanks to all of our guests today. 2492 02:35:35.360 --> 02:35:38.879 From Peter Bronson, a new book coming out called Promised 2493 02:35:39.000 --> 02:35:43.680 Land Sometimes this Fall more local history, Rick Robinson his 2494 02:35:43.799 --> 02:35:46.479 book nineteen sixty eight. You just heard from Gretchen Wallart 2495 02:35:46.879 --> 02:35:50.600 and her new book The Magic and Mayhem of Donald Trump, 2496 02:35:51.120 --> 02:35:54.840 and there is both to be sure. And thanks to 2497 02:35:54.920 --> 02:35:59.280 Michael Letts from invest USA and Sheriff Richard Mack who 2498 02:35:59.440 --> 02:36:05.000 was up to shares upholding their constitutional duty to obey 2499 02:36:05.120 --> 02:36:08.879 the oath they take when they go into office. Unlike 2500 02:36:09.799 --> 02:36:12.239 maybe the person that supposedly works for you in their 2501 02:36:12.280 --> 02:36:15.959 elected office right now, you should ask them, why are 2502 02:36:16.000 --> 02:36:19.239 you not upholding your oath? Anyway, I have a great 2503 02:36:19.399 --> 02:36:21.440 rest of the day. We'll talk to you soon here 2504 02:36:21.479 --> 02:36:24.079 on fifty five KRC Detalk Station