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Speaker 1: The paranormal UFOs, monsters, mysteries. As you're listening to Talking

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Weird and now from a Kevin deep in the northwards

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your host, doctor.

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Speaker 2: Dean Bertram, good evening, or my fellow widows and weird ds,

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welcome to Talking Weird on the Untold Radio Network. I'm

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your host, Dean Bertram, and as always un delighted that

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you've decided to spend the next hour or so of

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your life with me, whether you're watching a live at

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Thursday night Central Time where we go out on YouTube

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and on x and on Facebook, or perhapsure listening or

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watching to the show after that time, whether on one

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of those platforms where the show's archived, or perhaps on

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one of the many podcast platforms where the audio only

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version of the show always drops the next day. So

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greetings wherever you are on this wonderfully weird planet up

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here in the Northwoods. Obviously, we're only a couple of

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days from the fourth of July, one of my favorite

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holidays of the year. I hope everybody has who celebrates

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is looking forward to this long holiday weekend. If you

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want to, maybe put in the comments what you're up to.

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If you're in these United States, of America. You're going

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to parade like I will be with my daughter and

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then having perhaps family and friends over, like I am

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with my wonderful girlfriend and with some of her family,

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which will be a great night. Will have a fire

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and do fireworks and all the usual good Americana stuff. Anyway,

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have a wonderful weekend. If I don't talk to you

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again before then, speaking about the people I'm going to

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be hanging out with this weekend. Tonight's guest is a

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filmmaker who was born and raised in the Badge Estate

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in the vicinity of the small north central Wisconsin city

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of Warsaw. The city is still surrounded by farms, fields

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and forests and is the home to all kinds of legends, cryptids,

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UFO sidings, and haunted locations. So I am delighted to

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welcome back to Talking Weird, my filmmaking partner and gorgeous girlfriend,

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Samantha Crousey. Hey, gorgeous, how are you doing? That was

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a very little utterance. How would you do?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's good. You knock something over? Or was it

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your dog attacking your dog downstairs?

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Speaker 4: He was up here.

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Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to tonight's show. Our very good friend. Ian,

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even from Alien, Wisconsin, just said, this is so cool

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to put Samantha on. So he's helped us a number

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of times. He went into the cabin world. We were

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filming a part of the documentary for the man who

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invented flying sorcers. So greetings, Ian, it's great to see

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you there and everybody else who is in the chat. Yeah.

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So we're going to be talking tonight about our new

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little web series. Do you want to give it? Do

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you want to give it? A bit of a pitch?

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Speaker 4: You can pitch it.

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Speaker 2: I want I want to I want to put the

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pressure on you to.

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Speaker 4: Pitch pressure on me.

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Speaker 2: You do have to put up with it.

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Speaker 4: That's true, and that's not fair to say it's really fun.

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I'm not putting up with it.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, pitch it. Somebody's yelling at you, Bob,

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I'm going to have to with you, don't. It's a

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it's it's I guess it's part found footage movie, part

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paranormal documentary, and it's a home movie legend trip. So

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it's a show. Sam and I came up with the

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idea of when we were at a UFO conference down

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South showing our short documentary The Shavin Mystery, where we

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were presenting that and we became aware I don't know

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even I don't even know what the impetus of it

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really was, but we just had this idea to make

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something that looked very different to everything else out there,

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and to kind of package it like it's a found footage.

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You know what I can do, what I will do

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for people. Actually, I'm going to play the first few

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minutes of the first episode. I'm not going to play

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any more than that, maybe three minutes, so it'll give

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people a sense of what we're talking about, and then

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you can go and watch the whole episode for free

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on YouTube. This is the pilot. The next episode drops

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on Sunday, and the next episode will drop the week

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after that and so on. So yeah, I'm just gonna

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what do you think we play this now? Okay, I'm

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's see.

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Speaker 2: A friend.

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Speaker 4: So here we are.

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Speaker 5: What is it?

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Speaker 4: Lake Barbo.

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Speaker 6: This is m legend you might have heard about Wisconsin's

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very own ware one. We've been terrorizing southeastern Wisconsin for

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the better part of one hundred years. The farmfields along

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from town on the eltskirts, where it's very unware.

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Speaker 2: One you can go to the parkield.

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Speaker 6: Carrying Hildford wine coolers, axes, twenty two caliber weapons. Two

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attempts to win glory for ourselves legendary status being the

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one to finally, seventy years on capture the legendary Beast

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of Bray Road. There were good, all right?

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Speaker 4: What do we have to despond to Bray Road? Zach?

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Speaker 2: You see here?

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Speaker 4: Can you tell me a little bit about the Beames

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of Bray Road?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 7: The Beast of Bray Road is a legend from southeastern

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Wisconsin by Elkhorn, Wisconsin. And what people have been seeing

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on that road is what they describe as kind of

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a werewolf creature. And it's become the Beast of Bray

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least the nineties and even beyond that, and there's been

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books written about the creature and sightings are ongoing today.

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Speaker 4: This is a like a what I don't see it.

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Speaker 8: Wind a god for receive reports of people traveling down

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Speaker 3: Stretch of road called Bray Road. It's only about a

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five mile stretch out in the country, and they reported seeing,

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for a lack of a better term, a werewolf. This

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giant biped running upright on his hind legs like you

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and I, and it was somewhere between five and eight

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feet tall, covered in thick, matted down fur, had the

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long muzzle and the fangs and the claws, something old

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of a Hollywood horror movie.

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Speaker 2: So that's the first few minutes of the pilot episode

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of Home Movie Legend Trip, which I think is one

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of the most fun things I've ever shot. I'm having

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so much fun making this with you, like a blast

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making see. Yeah, And I'd love anybody who's interested to

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go watch the whole episode. You can go to you

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dot com, which is both mine Sam's signature on screen

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David Leenhart, who's a big supporter, said he really enjoyed

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the first episode. Ian who we mentioned before, said it's

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great and fun. Bob also said he loves the VHS

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snow so comforting and nostalgia. And we have our first

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question and it's from Ian Stephen who from Alien Wisconsin again,

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who asked, is it being filmed with an old camera?

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number of cameras specifically too. Did you want to talk

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a little bit about the first camera we started to use,

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the camp Snap?

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Speaker 4: Is that what it's called camp Snap?

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Speaker 2: It's the camp Snap, that's right, Yeah, little.

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next year. But it looks like an old super eight

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millimeter camera, the type I was raised on as a kid,

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with like a pistol grip, and it has very basic

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basic functions like a you know, a button for wide

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the trigger, it's not shooting, it's not filming. And it

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a minor attachment. We put an external microphone on it.

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idea was it's meant to look like Super eight footage.

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looking at looking like is nostalgic footage shot in the

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eighties or the nineties on old you know camcorders, and

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it looks miraculously like that, and so I think I

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think that's what gave us the idea. Right, we were

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playing with this camera and we were like, this would

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documentary on. Is that about right? And the first thing

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we shot was the Beast of Bray Roadway because we

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vintage secondhand Sony camcorder because when we're shooting nights, we

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that everybody's used to played with a Sony handicam back

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and more spooky. So we've shot three so far, and

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we will give a spoil of it. We're not going

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to give boilers to the ending of them. For people

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who have bothered to watch this, they can know what

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they will are. So the first one is the Beast

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of Brain Road. What's the second one? Egg? And talk

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Speaker 4: But it was fun. I think. I think the people

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in the excitement there was really cool. That was a

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Speaker 8: So we're at the hod Egg Festival, not the music festival,

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the hold Egg Festival, but it's what is the museum?

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was there and they set up this huge It was

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a lot of fun. They had just several speakers. Then

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what else we did the with the kids, we had

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the little we had to find the whole egg. It

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was very fair, family oriented, very fun, very very very cool.

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 2: I liked to the experience of a lot of fun. Kerry,

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the curator of the museum who was there, who also

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runs a festival is Kerry Blowdoor and he runs it

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with Ben Brunnell, who is the owner of the hod

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Egg store in town, who very kindly let us stay

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in the House of the hod Eggs, which is right

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behind the hod Egg Store, and it's his gorgeous guest

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house which is just painted green various shades, and it's

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just loaded with every Hodagg decoration and toy and memorabilia

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thing you could imagine. Literally is a house of Hodaggs,

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as must I don't know how how many hold Eggs

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Speaker 4: Art or painting every rooms. At least at least ten

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Speaker 2: At least there's a lot.

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Speaker 8: The whole thing was so called, and you can tell,

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like the entire city is you're just so e golfed

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in this like everything is just hold Hold, hold Egg.

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Speaker 4: But where we stayed was just like absolutely insane.

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Speaker 2: And they had the hod Egg Heritage Festival, so again

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you'll be able to watch. That's all right, that's what

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festival that celebrates this kind of I suppose I don't

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want to give too much away. A cryptozoological type creature.

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in Legends of Lumberjacks in the North Woods. And Chad

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Lewis who is but in the one you just watched,

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I watched a part of the Beast of Prey Road episode.

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various monsters in a wonderful book that I can't remember

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the titlet something like Northwoods Creatures or something. But if

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you look up Chad Lewis got his website, you'll be

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able to find it. But there were books back in

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the nineteenth century or early twentieth century which were essentially

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beastories of these creatures as well. And the Hodagg was

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one of many creatures which was reported to live in

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the north Woods of the United States of America. And

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the Hodagg became significantly famous and attached to ryan Lander

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because of the efforts of somebody called Jean Shepherd who

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claimed to have caught one and then put the thing

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on display. So ryan Land ever since, for like one

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hundred years or something, has the Hodagg is the town's

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I guess, like mascot when your kid plays when when

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when your son plays baseball and plays Ryan Lander, right,

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the team's called do you like the hod Eggs.

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Speaker 8: No, I mean no, I like the atmosphere. I like

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the whole, the whole status. But it was fun and

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it was a great trip and I loved everybody.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm never gonna have.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 2: David's been to the hod egg Store as well. He

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says it's incredible and we love to see inside the house.

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There's a little bit of inside the house in the

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next episode, David, So you'll be to see that on Sunday.

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But you should if you ever go to Ryanlander again,

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you can book that as an Airbnb. I think I

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don't know if it's on Verbo and Airbnb. It's certainly

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on Airbnb you.

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Speaker 4: Can, so I think they're I thought he said they.

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Speaker 2: Were on Probably. I think you can just go to

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the hod egg Store or the House of thehod Eggs.

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you'll be able to click through and find it. And

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Bob Anton says you could do an ed Gaen episode. Bob,

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I'd be lying if I said we had. Well, we've

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talked a little bit about it, so we probably will.

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We probably will do an ed Green episode. So and

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that one's I think that's a really fun episode. It's

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very different in tone. It still is like it all

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is everything shot like it's found footage, really, but it's

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it's much lighter in tone than the pilot. The Beast

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of Bray road plays more like a kind of you know,

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I don't know, a road trip horror movie. This one

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is it's more fun where it's at a festival, it's

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in a store. It's also us doing other things, but

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it's the ending is quite and the ending is quite moving.

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I think of the wod eg one without giving it away,

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that's much different different. We have a number that's planned

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that we're still shooting going forward, and maybe we'll talk

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about one of those in a minute. But we've shot

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one other one which will be coming out the week

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after next and that is one we shot at a

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special invite, only ce five of them.

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Speaker 4: It took us like a year to find.

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Speaker 2: It took us a year to find.

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Speaker 4: Did you say you remember how it took us to

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get there?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because the location was undisclosed as well, and so

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we couldn't find it. And then eventually, through the help

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of the wonderful Melissa Kine, and Zach the host. They

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guided us into this nondisclosed and it was in a

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gorgeous location. So what CE five. For the listeners who

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don't know what C five is, maybe talk about what

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because otherwise I'm just talking.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it when you talk, You're good.

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Speaker 2: So what C five.

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Speaker 4: Encounters of the fifth kind?

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Speaker 2: Close encounters of the fifth time, that's what it stands for,

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because most people are aware of close encounters of the

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third comes. Yes, well obviously because of the sorry, because.

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Speaker 4: Of your movie. Yes, but the fifth kind is when

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you are calling them in, you are talking to them and.

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Speaker 2: Bringing them exactly. It's human initiated contact. So I'm aware

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of C five events, I'm aware of the C five movement.

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Speaker 4: I'm not aware of this until this.

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Speaker 2: It's funny though, and I don't want to spoil anything

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about because it's it's still a couple of weeks away.

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But it's very clear in the cut that you have

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a skepticism. But by the end of that, I don't

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think you're skeptical. You're excited by the end of it.

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So it's so clear on its.

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Speaker 8: More exciting, Yes, but I still have my thoughts on it.

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But yes, yes, it was a little bit more like, oh,

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that's crazy, that's weird.

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Speaker 2: Yes, maybe it does work, because we won't go into

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it because that won't spoil it too much. But so

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after the protocols or the people who were there, because

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we were just there really filming, we weren't really participants,

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but after the people who were involved had done their ritual,

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and then there was which I thought was a cool

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and clever idea of Zach the host. He was influenced

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by not just Close Encounters of the Third Kind, but

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apparently that film itself, according to Zach, had been influenced

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by another study he's read about where people in France

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initiated back in the seventies, or tried to initiate back

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in the seventies contact with ets through music and through

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essentially a light show. And that is for everybody who

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is probably interested in this has seeing Close Encounters of

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the Third Kind. Apparently that's where the idea came from

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at the end, where it saw this kind of you know,

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light and music display to call in the extraterrestrials in

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that Spielberg movie. But apparently there was a group in

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France that had done this with some success in the

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nineteen seventies, So not every SEC five contact event is

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going to have music and you know, light strobing the sky,

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although I do think flashing the sky with you know,

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torches and lasers and things is quite common, but this

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was like a laser light show and you know, almost

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a ravy event really. I mean it wasn't big like,

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but it had a bit of a ravy feel. And

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it was in this gorgeous property like we when we

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drive in, as anyone who watches the episode in a

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few weeks will see, Like when you're at the road,

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you can't see it's just woods. You have to drive

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in around this windy row that takes you back into

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the property itself, and it's just I don't know, like

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a clearing of maybe a couple of ages is just

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surrounded by really tall trees, like I think the trees.

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It's just like this tiny little maybe an acre then

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of clear land maybe, but it's gorgeous and just really

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tall trees surrounding like some of that stuff looked like

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it was old growth like it was. Those were big

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trees there, and what what else did you find of

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interest there? Without any things which might be in the

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in the show, Well, what about the forest stuff that

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that's not in the episode actually, because that's not really

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something you can convey.

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Speaker 4: Sorry.

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Speaker 8: When he was talking about well, he said many things,

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like the things that they would see before.

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Speaker 4: He did say after the whole.

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Speaker 8: Ceremony and everything was going on, that they normally would

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see things in the forest, but the lights might have

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missed that. We would not have seen him because of

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all the lights. But then he was also talking about

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my made having a tall mental block.

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Speaker 2: I think I think he had a problem with the lights. Well,

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what he mentioned the lights is because there were lights

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and they don't always have them. He said, the fireflies

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that aren't fireflies in other words, something perhaps from you know,

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the very real said you would't see him because of

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and he's like, you made have missed out on that,

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But he said the feeling was still coming and you

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could still feel the the energy.

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Speaker 4: But then the different portals he was talking about the portals.

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Speaker 8: There was two different portals that he himself has found

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on the property within the woods, they believe. He said, yeah,

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there's a lot of crazy stuff going on there.

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Speaker 2: We could almost go back there and do another one

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on the forest. Because he talked about having interactions with

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gnome like creatures as well. And anyone who watches this

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show ree he knows that the fair folk, the other crowd,

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the fairies, the good neighbors, whatever you might call them,

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is a particular interest to me. It's one of the

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it's one of the I suppose forty and phenomenon that

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I'm most interested in, and I feel is most is

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most worthy of exploration. It's been something that's been with

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us for so long, this idea of these other the

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other species, which is like us but not us. It

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inhabits the same space with us sometimes but also goes

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to the other side. So the fact that that that

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land is meant to be known for this type of phenomenon,

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that's that's fascinated me.

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Speaker 8: While we were there, I wouldn't know more of the

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history on that property though, because he was going kind

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of into it.

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Speaker 4: I don't think we got the full story. And there's

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more to it than what we got out of it.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, I think we could go back and

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do another one. Because it's a short format show. I mean,

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you can't. It's not really enough space to do the

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UFOs and the the history of the woods and the

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other crowd that live in there, but you could go

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back there. Maybe it's something we need to talk to

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Zach about doing one on that. That'd be a lot

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of fun, actually, so, I think before we had squatch

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Mo asked do you attend the one in Madison? No,

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I haven't been to or the two? Did you to

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attend the one in Madison? I haven't been to a

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Sea father that in Madison. I bet you some of

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the people there have been to it, though, And I

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wouldn't be at all surprised if Ian Stevens, who's in

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the who was in the chat before, has been to

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one in Madison either, because I know he's from the

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south of the state, that kind of that kind of area.

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What else? What else do you want to do?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: What the great thing about this is I don't think

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we're ever going to run out of subjects. As long

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as people find the show interesting and we get an audience,

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I think this is something we can do essentially. But

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are there other things? Bob Antone mentioned ed Gan before,

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which isn't too far from us at all. What else

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are you interested in?

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Speaker 4: I want you so that scarier like the hide Behind

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I like to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we just need a good interview subject when we

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do that one. Maybe, Yeah, Chad Lewis would be great

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on the hide Behind.

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Speaker 4: I think we I think some step up North too,

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just because I like being at North. So that'd be

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a fun road trip.

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Speaker 8: And there's a lot we could look into that I

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probably don't even know about, but talking to locals speak

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it easily.

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Speaker 4: It'd be fun.

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Speaker 2: That would be fun. Bob and Tone suggested back room,

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which isn't a bad idea given that that building is

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I think it's in Oshkosh, so that's not too We

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we just have to work out how we could how

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we could do an interesting one around that. I'm not

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sure if you could get if they give us access

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to going to the actual building. It's been remodeled. I

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think since there were the photo was taken of that,

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you know, that liminal space, which became an Internet sensation

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and then gave birth I guess to the film that

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was a hit earlier this summer. But yeah, that's a

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great idea, Bob, back rooms is a great idea. Oh

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and Ian said, yes he has been to those ones

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Squatch Mama that we were talking about before the two

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See five events in Madison. I know we have we

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have one coming up I'm really looking forward to shooting,

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and that's the one in Elmwood, the UFO Elmwood one,

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because in the last week in last weekend in July,

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you and I were both going to Elmwood anyway, because

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we're screening my short documentary which is part of the

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feature which Sam's producing as well, the man who invented

476
00:26:46,599 --> 00:26:50,039
flying sources. But the standalone is just called The Shaver

477
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,440
of Mystery, and I'm presenting that. Sam will be there

478
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,279
as well as she always is to present it with

479
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,160
me and to we'll ask that we'll be a for

480
00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:03,839
questions afterwards. Plus I'll do my little Shaver Part Mystery,

481
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,519
Part two presentation. But we're doing that at the Elmwood

482
00:27:06,599 --> 00:27:09,240
UFO Days event, which is the last weekend in July,

483
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,640
and it's a town in Wisconsin to the west of

484
00:27:13,759 --> 00:27:17,319
US right. I think he has a long history of

485
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,160
UFO sidings and had some particularly notable UFO sidings back

486
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:27,160
in the nineteen seventies, and they have this wonderful event

487
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,920
there where they have speakers and they also do this massive,

488
00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:37,720
this massive UFO parade through town and Jeremy Soka, I'm

489
00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:39,839
probably mispronouncing his name again, even though I had him

490
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,119
on the show a few weeks ago. He's written a

491
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,480
wonderful book called uf Elmwood, which is about the UFO

492
00:27:45,599 --> 00:27:48,880
phenomenon in Elmwood. In fact, at the event we were

493
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,000
just at, we met the state director of moufon was

494
00:27:52,039 --> 00:27:56,160
at it and he was wearing Jeremy's podcast t shirt,

495
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:01,119
the Infinite rabbit Hole t shirt. But anyway, thanks to Jeremy,

496
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,839
I was invited to speak there. So when we go

497
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,720
to UFO Elmwood will be I'm assuming visiting some of

498
00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:11,480
the sites which are attached to some of the more

499
00:28:11,559 --> 00:28:14,880
prominent UFO events that have happened there. It's crazy stuff's

500
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,079
happened there, like a teenth at abductions and people being injured,

501
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,279
and like a police officer being essentially blasted by a

502
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,240
UFO like it's one of the weirdest UFO areas in

503
00:28:25,319 --> 00:28:27,839
all of America. In fact, it's claimed the fame it

504
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,880
calls itself various either the UFO Capital of America, the

505
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,079
UFO Capital of Wisconsin, even the UFO Capital of the World.

506
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,119
And there was a plan a number of decades ago

507
00:28:38,319 --> 00:28:41,240
to build a UFO landing station in Elmwood for the

508
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,559
UFO people to come and visit. They were riffing on

509
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,519
a deal and an idea that Donald Keho, the director

510
00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:51,480
of NYCAP and one of the most important and famous

511
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,759
ufologists in the first few decades of uthology. I think

512
00:28:55,799 --> 00:28:58,160
he presented it in a book called Aliens from Space,

513
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,880
This idea that if we build this wonderful UFO port,

514
00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:04,039
the UFO people will come down and we'll be able

515
00:29:04,119 --> 00:29:06,440
to you know, record them and interact with them and

516
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,440
all of this. And John Keel, perhaps rightfully so said, well,

517
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,839
that just sounds like a cargo cult after World War Two,

518
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,480
building like planes out of bamboo and hoping the Americans

519
00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:19,880
will come back with their can goods. So I as

520
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,400
Nata's idea as that landing port. I think is the

521
00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:25,960
history in the story of Elmwood is going to make

522
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,960
a great episode, I think, and Jeremy is going to

523
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,599
be in that one. So we already have a very

524
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,160
knowledgeable talking head for that.

525
00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:35,599
Speaker 8: So a lot of the things we've done and the

526
00:29:36,039 --> 00:29:38,680
things we have planned, what do you want to do?

527
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:40,960
What would you be interested in doing?

528
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: You know what I've been thinking about it a lot

529
00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:45,160
lately is we've spent more and more time on this.

530
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,039
I really do like the idea a little down the

531
00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:52,000
track because I'm assuming the first at least quarter and

532
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,319
a half a year will be primarily probably in Wisconsin.

533
00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:58,000
I would love to do a bigger road trip and

534
00:29:58,119 --> 00:30:01,640
go and hit multiple places outside of Wisconsin, you know,

535
00:30:01,759 --> 00:30:03,680
do a trip and make four or fives.

536
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,319
Speaker 4: Do you have an idea where.

537
00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:11,119
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's funny today I sent you. I sent

538
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,119
you a Loveland frog thing today, the frog man from

539
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,640
that part of the world. That would be a cool

540
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:16,039
one to do.

541
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:17,839
Speaker 4: I didn't see where I was from.

542
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: That's where it's from. Yeah, I think it's Loveland. Is

543
00:30:21,519 --> 00:30:25,519
the frogman? That would be awesome? Yeah, Ohio. So that

544
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,759
would be that would be a that's a doable drive.

545
00:30:27,799 --> 00:30:29,960
I'd love to do the van meter visitor like I

546
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,799
would love to the terodactyle type creature. And I know

547
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,160
Chad Lewis is again. Chad comes up again and again

548
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,799
whenever you talk about this type of stuff in the Midwest,

549
00:30:38,839 --> 00:30:40,920
you can't not talk about Chad. But I know he's

550
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,119
involved in a serious level with the Van Visitor Festival.

551
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,119
The only thing that makes me worried about the potential

552
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,720
of doing it this year is we have another short

553
00:30:51,759 --> 00:30:53,920
film which is about to start on the festival circuit

554
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,160
called Halloween Bird. So we'll probably be busy, and we'll

555
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,640
probably be busy through the late summer and fall going

556
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,160
to places to promote to promote that. But the van

557
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,079
meet a visitor would be and or would be. It's

558
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,359
just such a bizarre story about this thing in the

559
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,279
nineteenth century that flew out of like a mine there

560
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,039
or something and terrorized the town and people shot at it.

561
00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:17,000
And you know, it looks like this, this giant pterodactyl.

562
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:19,200
And I know Chad does a walking to Robert during

563
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,880
the festival. I'm sure we could do that, or he

564
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,519
would give us a private tour as well, so that

565
00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:25,519
that would be a fun one. I liked your idea

566
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,599
too about doing just more obscure, unknown things, like just

567
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,200
having our camera with us and randomly asking people when

568
00:31:32,279 --> 00:31:32,559
we were.

569
00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 4: In you know.

570
00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:38,279
Speaker 5: They've never heard Yeah, I mean you could do it

571
00:31:38,359 --> 00:31:41,720
around the places that you know big things have happened,

572
00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:45,519
but to talk to the locals and have those conversations

573
00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:46,279
I think that before.

574
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. And I liked your idea

575
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:51,440
too about just like if we're going to a bar

576
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,759
or you know, another small town or something, just having

577
00:31:53,799 --> 00:31:57,279
a camera with us and just having conversations with people

578
00:31:57,319 --> 00:31:59,839
and asking, hey, is anything we'd ever happen and not

579
00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:02,400
having it is not having it as a sidebar of

580
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,480
the show, Like it wouldn't be one of the episodes

581
00:32:04,599 --> 00:32:06,799
unless the person would take us around and show us

582
00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:07,279
the site.

583
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,039
Speaker 4: You may meet people who will do that.

584
00:32:10,319 --> 00:32:14,119
Speaker 2: Well then would then it would become a fuller if

585
00:32:14,119 --> 00:32:17,440
they if that didn't happen, just having a sidebar of

586
00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:20,079
the show which was the same format but was just

587
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,319
somebody telling a personal experience shot in that same found

588
00:32:25,359 --> 00:32:26,880
foot as you weigh, I think we could do something

589
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,599
really cool with that on the side as well.

590
00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:32,799
Speaker 4: So there's all kinds of we hear a lot that'd

591
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:35,920
be fun. Make cool people doing these kinds of things too.

592
00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: We have met we have met some cool people doing

593
00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:42,640
even just these I mean we've been we've been on

594
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,640
the circuit for a long time with the Shave of Mystery,

595
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,599
so we've met all kinds of cool people in in

596
00:32:47,759 --> 00:32:52,559
that capacity, right. But when you start interviewing people, it's

597
00:32:52,599 --> 00:32:56,359
always fascinating to here their their take on things. What

598
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,400
did you do? So let's get back to the C

599
00:32:58,599 --> 00:33:00,640
five events just quickly, because it's the one we most

600
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,720
recently did, so it's still the one which is probably

601
00:33:03,839 --> 00:33:07,640
at the front of my mind. So plus I'm finalizing

602
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,759
the edit of it now, so I'm very deeply buried

603
00:33:09,799 --> 00:33:15,119
in it. Did it did going there and filming that

604
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,000
and seeing it and then seeing weird things in the skies?

605
00:33:18,039 --> 00:33:21,519
Did it change your idea and all about any of

606
00:33:21,559 --> 00:33:24,000
this stuff? Like did it make you? Did it? Did

607
00:33:24,319 --> 00:33:25,279
you rethink anything?

608
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 8: I think, for like a minute, I might have, And

609
00:33:29,319 --> 00:33:35,119
then afterwards I was like, but in the moment, maybe,

610
00:33:36,039 --> 00:33:38,960
but I feel like, you know, just an onlooker and

611
00:33:39,079 --> 00:33:43,880
like recording stuff, like yeah, there was moments where I

612
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,480
was like, Okay, this is a little bizarre.

613
00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 4: And then afterwards, like you think about it for a

614
00:33:48,279 --> 00:33:50,119
while and then I'm like, I'm back to where it was.

615
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,279
It might not be what you want to hear them.

616
00:33:54,519 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: No, I think I think that's fair. And again, when

617
00:33:56,519 --> 00:33:59,519
people watch the episode, they'll see it it's like you

618
00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:03,119
haven't seen cut it all yet. When you see it, like, no,

619
00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:07,359
it's great because you're kind of you You start off

620
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,039
being not mainly skeptical, just like you know, like yeah,

621
00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:13,840
like this is not a real spoiler because it's the beginning.

622
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,280
But at the very beginning, when we're driving, I asked you,

623
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,320
none of the none of this is stage. This is

624
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,800
just what happens when we go. I asked you, do

625
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,920
you think you're going to see a sorcer or something tonight?

626
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,599
And you just look at the camera saying no. Later

627
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:28,760
there's this great footage if you're super excited and lights

628
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:29,199
in the sky.

629
00:34:29,519 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 8: So well, it was just because we were just again

630
00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:35,000
I shouldn't say anything, but no, it was for a

631
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:36,880
minute and then I'll say, step back, and I'm like,

632
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:39,760
I can explain this away like ten different ways, but

633
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,920
it took me like you had to get away from

634
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,800
the excitement of like the situation and like, oh yeah, okay,

635
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,400
I'm supposed to be feeling this way.

636
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to be doing this. I'm supposed to be

637
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:56,079
seeing these things too, Okay, I like, no, did you

638
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:56,599
I know.

639
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 2: I know some of your your fam none of your

640
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,719
family hardcore paranormal follows or anything. I know your family

641
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,800
you're interested. I know one of your daughters is interested.

642
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,679
I know your dad and your mom are kind of interested.

643
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,840
Did you tell them about your experiences?

644
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,519
Speaker 8: I did, and I told Mom after I I just

645
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:16,480
wanted to build her up and be like, because she's

646
00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:19,000
very much a believer. They're always out in the middle

647
00:35:19,039 --> 00:35:21,639
of nowhere. They're always watching these guys are always like

648
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,400
you know, so I always get phone calls the day

649
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,800
after they've been out, and I always saw this. We

650
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,119
saw that she gets all excited, like, oh, so I

651
00:35:33,159 --> 00:35:35,159
did tell her about the event, and she was like, see, I.

652
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,519
Speaker 4: Told you, I told you you, Mom.

653
00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:41,639
Speaker 8: Dad doesn't really say much. I think he kind of

654
00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:43,199
follows Mom. She's gonna leader.

655
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,519
Speaker 4: So I don't know, I know you.

656
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: I know your dad when he I haven't spent that

657
00:35:49,039 --> 00:35:50,519
much time with your dad. I really like him, but

658
00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:52,199
I haven't spent that much time with him. But I

659
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,119
know one of the times I was talking to him,

660
00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:57,960
he was mentioning a few of your family's own experiences

661
00:35:58,039 --> 00:35:59,719
with things mm.

662
00:35:59,639 --> 00:36:02,519
Speaker 8: Hmmm, which I never heard, which is funny because he's like,

663
00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:05,719
you should know about this stuff, and then he tells you.

664
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, we used to tell you.

665
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,079
Speaker 8: We're on the campfire with great grandma and grandpa, and

666
00:36:09,199 --> 00:36:11,840
I'm like, yeah, I was four I don't remember any

667
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:12,679
of these things.

668
00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: But you told you told the story again on I

669
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,159
think you've told it a little in the shop, but

670
00:36:19,159 --> 00:36:20,880
I'm going to get you to again now because the audience,

671
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,960
some of the audience come and go. But we were

672
00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:25,599
on a bigfoot Michigan rob show the other day and

673
00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:28,000
you talked a little bit about your dad's experiences. Do

674
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,039
you want to do you want to go over them

675
00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:31,559
again now, because I'm always interested to hear them again,

676
00:36:31,559 --> 00:36:33,480
because you heard more from him after he told me.

677
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 8: I think all I know is the story about my

678
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,760
grandpa and the bathroom. Well it's not the bathroom, guys,

679
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,880
it's the outhouse. Tell the story walk they used to

680
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,920
have to walk. It was quite a ways from the

681
00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:54,480
house to get to the outhouse, and my grandpa was

682
00:36:54,599 --> 00:36:56,360
It was at night and my grandpa was going out

683
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,960
there and he was in the outhouse and he looked

684
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:02,079
up and he saw two like red eyes just like

685
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:03,440
beaming down at him, and it.

686
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:04,079
Speaker 4: Freaked him out.

687
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,159
Speaker 8: And Greda's like a sailor. He's just you know, big

688
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,039
old gruff, scruff, like he's not afraid of stuff. Like

689
00:37:10,119 --> 00:37:13,400
he's gonna tell you like it is scared the heck

690
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,440
out of him. I'm trying to remember that. The other

691
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:19,880
one was when is my dad uncle?

692
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:23,039
Speaker 2: And uncle just just quickly on that one though, said

693
00:37:23,039 --> 00:37:25,119
the suggestion was it was a bigfoot or something.

694
00:37:25,199 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 8: Yes, the suggestion was it was like a bigfoot or something.

695
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,400
He didn't know what it was, but he just thought too, like,

696
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,760
yeah too, what I think they describe as eyes. I

697
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,480
don't think it was like beams of light or anything.

698
00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:42,519
Speaker 4: It was two eyes and again eighty acres.

699
00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 8: He's been born, raised in the country, like he knows

700
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,119
what animal eyes look like. And it's not a tower

701
00:37:49,199 --> 00:37:53,920
over an outhouse, right, anything that you know. But and

702
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:57,360
then there was a time where my dad and I

703
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,360
I don't remember who he said was all. I think

704
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:01,880
it was a friend and his a couple of his

705
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,320
brothers or something, and they were deer shining right down

706
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:09,480
the road, maybe a mile down the road from their house,

707
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,440
still country, and then they saw a silhouette that was

708
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,960
super high and it was like on its hinds, but

709
00:38:18,039 --> 00:38:19,800
they like, it wasn't a bear. There's no way it

710
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,639
was a bear, like the shape of it, and they

711
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,800
it freaked my head out enough.

712
00:38:25,039 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 4: But and he didn't believe in this stuff.

713
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,519
Speaker 8: I guess like when dad was growing up, you know,

714
00:38:29,679 --> 00:38:31,599
like he would hear the stories, but he never believed

715
00:38:31,639 --> 00:38:33,199
in it. And like now that he looks back, he's like, no,

716
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,199
that was really creepy, Like I don't know what that

717
00:38:35,519 --> 00:38:38,159
was like to this day he can't. He can't explain

718
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,400
what they had seen when they were deer shining.

719
00:38:41,079 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 2: I'll have to ask your dad more about it if

720
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,440
I get to see him over the fourth weekend, the

721
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,679
fourth of July, which I hope, I hope I do.

722
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,639
Flat Rockland aka Matt Auckland, who's been a guest on

723
00:38:51,679 --> 00:38:53,960
the show and as a good friend, says, next year's

724
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,800
the eightieth were the eightieth reunion or I guess the

725
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,480
eightieth anniversary of the Maury Island incident. We might have

726
00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:03,159
to go back to Maury next year. We were there

727
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,639
two two summers ago shooting the man who invented flying sauces.

728
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,679
Hopefully that I'll be put to bed by the next Maury.

729
00:39:11,039 --> 00:39:14,280
We could go back. We could go there just shoot

730
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,400
a film entirely differently shooter because we weren't there to

731
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,199
shoot experiential stuff. We were there, well, it was different.

732
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,840
The focus was the story of Rapalmer and the story

733
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,079
of more How you know, he popularized Mario Island, so

734
00:39:26,159 --> 00:39:29,039
perhaps if we went back we would shoot Between him.

735
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,119
Speaker 4: And Bob, we could probably find a lot of places

736
00:39:31,159 --> 00:39:31,320
to go.

737
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 2: And indeed Bob Antone and his wife Laura were wonderful

738
00:39:35,159 --> 00:39:37,800
guides and hosts for us. Yeah, and we could we

739
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,559
could drag old. We could all drag old, flot in

740
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,840
flat in as well flop. I don't know where we

741
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,280
could flot flat. We have here, David Lenhard again, says

742
00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:50,480
he and his wife Alia have. They've recently been started

743
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,800
shooting legend tripping ourselves and it can be really exciting.

744
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,760
It is, it's really exciting. I can't wait to see

745
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,440
some of your stuff, David. You have to send it

746
00:39:57,519 --> 00:40:01,719
to me when when you've got something that you and

747
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,480
a listener have done. I'd really like to see it.

748
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 4: Do they stay local? Do you stay local? Or are

749
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:07,960
you going all over?

750
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 2: That's a good question, David. Just drop in the chat

751
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,000
and tell us where, tell us where you're traveling so

752
00:40:13,079 --> 00:40:17,119
we can steal some of your ideas. I'm joking. Oh,

753
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,039
isn't that gosh? That's very that's very kind of you.

754
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,960
You're almost twisting my arm now with this kindness. I

755
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,320
want to come in. You all stay at our moory house.

756
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,840
If you do a couple of blocks from the Bluff Overlook,

757
00:40:29,079 --> 00:40:34,559
imagine staying on Maria Allen. That would be mental. Better

758
00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:35,079
be careful.

759
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,079
Speaker 4: It's so pretty. I love it.

760
00:40:37,079 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 2: It's so gorgeous. We've talked about wanting to go back. Actually,

761
00:40:40,519 --> 00:40:43,920
so maybe maybe what was that?

762
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 4: That was one of our favorite trips.

763
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,559
Speaker 2: It was We love that. We love that trip a lot.

764
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,719
And the Jersey trip was awesome as well. When we

765
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,000
got to meet American we were at the Jersey Devil

766
00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:57,440
Film Festival with the Shaven Mystery short. That was fun. Yeah,

767
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:02,480
Maury was gorgeous. What a great time, David says. They've

768
00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:06,159
done Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan so far. Well, that's two

769
00:41:06,199 --> 00:41:11,280
more states than we've done so far. We've done another thing.

770
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,320
You asked me what I would like to do before

771
00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:17,199
If we get to go, there's a potential will end

772
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,639
up near Rhode Island with some film festival stuff in

773
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,719
the coming year or so. Anyway, for Halloween Bird, which

774
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,559
has nothing to do with this series, it's a narrative

775
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:30,119
horror film that Sam producer. I directed, and it starred

776
00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:35,599
my mum and my daughter. Last Fall into Winter. I

777
00:41:35,639 --> 00:41:37,280
think we thought. I thought it was going to take

778
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,639
me two weeks to shot to shoot. Rather it took

779
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,679
what how long did it take like four months or something?

780
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:46,400
It took forever to make that short film. It's it's

781
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,079
a good looking film though, like we did a good

782
00:41:48,119 --> 00:41:50,960
job on it. Anyway, My point is, if we're anywhere

783
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,840
near Rhode Island, I would likely just do a Lovecraft legendship,

784
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,039
but wouldn't necessarily have to be spooky, but to hear

785
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,960
things about, you know, Lovecraft, to go to his grave,

786
00:41:59,199 --> 00:42:00,840
to have some love Craft of history and that, of

787
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,800
course that's somebody I've been fascinated with. That'd be an

788
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,840
awful lot of fun. It'd be fun to do one

789
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,679
in the Southwest at some stage as well, Like there's

790
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,559
so many UFO E stories there. I'd like. I haven't been.

791
00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:16,159
I haven't been to rachel in the area fifty one area,

792
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,840
every fifty one area that part of the world in

793
00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:24,360
Nevada since I did my PhD dissertation like over two

794
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,079
decades ago. So I'd love to go back there. That

795
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:28,440
would be fun, and you.

796
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 4: There too, there's a lot not just the feeling. Yeah,

797
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,440
there's a lot of history down there that's spooper fun.

798
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: That's the kind of thing I'd like to do a

799
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,760
trip and go, Okay, we're going to do these four

800
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,239
or five things and come back five episode shot.

801
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 4: I don't think we should aways have an idea of

802
00:42:45,039 --> 00:42:45,639
what we're doing.

803
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,039
Speaker 8: We should have the ideas, and then we should seriously

804
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,400
stup and talk to the local people, because the things

805
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,719
when I've traveled outside of even with you, you talk

806
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,280
to people you know of like the stories, but then

807
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,320
you get to know the people and you're like, oh

808
00:42:58,679 --> 00:42:59,840
and all that that's crazy.

809
00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 3: No.

810
00:43:02,599 --> 00:43:04,639
Speaker 2: I like, you've suggested it a few times to me,

811
00:43:04,639 --> 00:43:07,400
and you're right finding you. I know you want to

812
00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:10,599
very much do episodes of things that have never been done.

813
00:43:10,639 --> 00:43:12,800
And I think that's a really good idea because it's

814
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:17,679
going to sprinkle amongst the more known legend trips, things

815
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,199
which are just things that we or areas or places

816
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,320
that we discover. David also said he's done one in

817
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,760
Oa Claire, which of course is where I met David

818
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,719
at Midwest we had the festival we run in o'claire, Wisconsin.

819
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,119
What I want to do, David, and don't steal it

820
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,039
from me at least if you're going to publicize it

821
00:43:35,159 --> 00:43:37,960
before me, is you know this is something we should

822
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,559
do too. We should do We should do the ghost

823
00:43:42,639 --> 00:43:46,840
story of the downtown Micon Cinema because I've talked to

824
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,159
the staff multiple times and the owners, and they all

825
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,159
have stories about the ghosts that are meant to be

826
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,559
in that old downtown cinema area, like almost anybody there

827
00:43:55,599 --> 00:43:57,880
who works there or owns it will tell you, will

828
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,199
tell you a story about it. And yes, I have

829
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,320
thought about Mothman. I absolutely have thought about Mothman. I

830
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,280
saw the other day the Sons of Appalachia just did

831
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:12,519
a moth Man episode the Old Mountain Monsters. Guys, did

832
00:44:12,559 --> 00:44:14,079
you watch did you watch that? Did you watch the

833
00:44:14,119 --> 00:44:15,440
Mothman episode with Chloe and I?

834
00:44:15,559 --> 00:44:15,679
Speaker 5: Who?

835
00:44:15,679 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 1: Did?

836
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 2: I just watch that with my daughter Chloe, because I

837
00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:23,119
make you watch Mountain Monsters or Sons of Appalasia Appalachia

838
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:23,440
with me?

839
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, I don't think I watched them.

840
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,119
Speaker 2: Then he did it recently because Steve Ward sent me

841
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:35,679
a photo of of Huckleberry, of Buck and of wild

842
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,880
Bill in Point Pleasant. I think Steve Ward, who's a

843
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,920
good friend of mine he works at the Mothman Museum,

844
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,079
took the photo and I was like, that was cool.

845
00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:44,880
They were there, and sure enough, like a week later,

846
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:51,119
their episode dropped of them. I probably sent you the photo.

847
00:44:51,199 --> 00:44:52,239
I'd probably forward it to.

848
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:55,199
Speaker 4: Watch it.

849
00:44:56,079 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: You know the funny And I think you said this joking.

850
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,559
I think you were only half joking about one of

851
00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:02,679
the things the sons of our Palasia guys do now

852
00:45:02,679 --> 00:45:04,400
and I don't know why, Like it's like it's a

853
00:45:04,519 --> 00:45:08,320
guilty pleasure for me is watching their food tasting videos.

854
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,199
Oh my gosh, like when they eat like like I

855
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:18,199
don't know, or sour stuff or things which are it's it's.

856
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 4: You can't look away.

857
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,519
Speaker 2: I forced you to watch about five hour marathon and

858
00:45:23,559 --> 00:45:24,760
that stuff with you watch.

859
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 4: Literally it's one of those things like you have to

860
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:28,400
look like you have to.

861
00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 8: You don't want to look and you don't want to,

862
00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:35,280
but you can't not look like you can't not it's insane.

863
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: And you were like, we could do this with the kids.

864
00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:39,239
We could do our own content of us eating.

865
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 4: But me, the kids used to it. We could easily.

866
00:45:45,519 --> 00:45:49,360
That'd be so much fun, And I do.

867
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: Think they'll be I do think we'll have some weird

868
00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:55,599
little side content going forward. I know YouTube now, which

869
00:45:55,599 --> 00:45:57,320
I think not a lot of people use, but they

870
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,920
also have this community feature, so I was I was

871
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,360
thinking we could probably start to do something related in that,

872
00:46:05,519 --> 00:46:07,559
which is in the main show as well. But these

873
00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:10,559
are all things that we're gradually working out. I do

874
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,239
hope that everybody who's listening goes, and if they didn't,

875
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,039
if they haven't seen it yet, or even if they

876
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:17,960
have seen it, go and subscribe to the channel, because

877
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,960
it's all We talked about launching it on the old

878
00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:24,679
Talking Weird channel before I was on the network, because

879
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,360
that channel already is it a stage where it could

880
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,199
be monetized. There over a thousand you know, subscribers, and

881
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,360
there's thousands of hours of views on it. But instead

882
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,480
of putting it there, we thought it would be better

883
00:46:36,599 --> 00:46:38,599
just to start it from scratch. I think you were right.

884
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,880
That was you were the person who really pushed to

885
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,559
launch it as an independent channel again and not just

886
00:46:44,039 --> 00:46:51,320
latch it onto a channel I already had. No I'm

887
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,280
not because I'm in fact, the more I think about it,

888
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,079
the happier I am. It would just be nice to

889
00:46:56,119 --> 00:46:58,480
get a subscriber base up, so when we drop a

890
00:46:58,519 --> 00:47:01,760
new episode, there's a potential you know, a thousand eyes

891
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,719
on the projects straight away. So that's why I'm encouraging

892
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,360
people now to who have been with us. I mean

893
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,920
many of the people in the chat and various other

894
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,280
listeners and viewers have been watching me do talking weird

895
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,360
for you know, over five years now. So if we

896
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,480
can get that kind of viewership over to this quickly

897
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:23,360
instead of slowly, it would just be better. I mean,

898
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,639
they don't even have to do with the monetizations. Anybody

899
00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:28,920
who knows what I do knows money means very little

900
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,920
to me because I just like crazy content. But it's

901
00:47:32,039 --> 00:47:34,360
more that I want people to watch the content I make.

902
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,920
It's kind of you know, you don't want to make

903
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,920
a video and have five people watch it, you know.

904
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,400
It's like it's almost like when you were a kid,

905
00:47:41,519 --> 00:47:43,239
and I did this for years, where you would make

906
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,920
like a Super eight film or then you would make

907
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,119
a you know, a home horror movie on your dad's

908
00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:53,480
whenever the TEP format was a VHS or super VHS,

909
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,920
and then your whole audience would be like your family

910
00:47:56,119 --> 00:47:56,800
and your friends.

911
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:57,039
Speaker 3: You know.

912
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,559
Speaker 2: Then you were like yeah, twenty people said in my movie.

913
00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:02,559
They all tell me how wonderful it is. But I

914
00:48:03,199 --> 00:48:05,639
do think the whole point is of doing something like

915
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,639
this is getting more eyes on it. And I'm really

916
00:48:07,679 --> 00:48:11,320
proud of it. I really love I really love how

917
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,800
we've we decided to do this weird little thing and

918
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,239
package it like a found footage movie because I don't

919
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,480
think there's any other paranormal dock that does it, and

920
00:48:19,519 --> 00:48:21,639
I think that's what separates. And it's a short, very

921
00:48:21,679 --> 00:48:24,559
short format as well. You get in, you get the information,

922
00:48:24,639 --> 00:48:26,920
and you get out. You don't have to It's not

923
00:48:27,079 --> 00:48:29,840
like watching a lot of paranormal docks out there, which

924
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,840
I watch. I'm a sucker because I watched so much

925
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,559
of this content. But you can watch a forty five

926
00:48:35,639 --> 00:48:38,239
minute show and you haven't learned anything that couldn't have

927
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,760
been compacted into five or six minutes, you know. So

928
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,800
I think that's one of the values of it as well.

929
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 4: I agree they just want to send vengeancey what's going on,

930
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,000
and they can just two in, two out.

931
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just so quick, that's true. There's no tuning

932
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,280
in her tuning out. And I hope it captures people

933
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,719
and moves pretty quickly. I think. I think one thing

934
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,039
we've done with that is make it a far fairly

935
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:08,039
fast moving show. But what you know, what I'd love

936
00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:10,039
to see. So we've had a few suggestions here in

937
00:49:10,119 --> 00:49:14,280
the chat, like we had a Mothman suggestion, we had

938
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,360
Marie Island, so we had both David and Flat recommend

939
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,719
some things I don't. Bob of course suggested the back rooms.

940
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,960
All of those excellent suggestions. If anybody else has any

941
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,320
other suggestions for us, put them in there, because we

942
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,320
are going to do as many of these as we

943
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,320
can going forward. I think we just have to. I

944
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,559
just have to balance it with and you have to

945
00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:37,960
balance it too, with everything we do, including finishing the

946
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,119
man who invented flying sources. So we have so many projects.

947
00:49:41,199 --> 00:49:47,519
But these are fun. Yeah, these are fun and pretty

948
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:49,360
quick to Where would you like? Where else would you

949
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,880
like to travel? Southwest? We talked about where else with

950
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:52,320
this show.

951
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,679
Speaker 4: I think like Southwest. I would love that, and I

952
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,920
would still like to go to the East Coast.

953
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 2: There's a lot we could go back to the Jersey

954
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:02,400
Devil film.

955
00:50:02,679 --> 00:50:06,039
Speaker 8: It was amazing and that was I think, honestly just

956
00:50:06,519 --> 00:50:12,920
not even just like the people just it was gorgeous

957
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,920
and I think they're just there's just like a field there.

958
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:16,639
Speaker 4: I don't know.

959
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:22,159
Speaker 2: I like it. We should submit another film to the

960
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,719
Jersey Devil Film Festival. I hope to get in there

961
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,639
when that plays. Go to Jersey Devil kill Two Birds

962
00:50:28,679 --> 00:50:31,960
with One Stone, go and go to the festival, and

963
00:50:32,199 --> 00:50:38,079
then go and do a Jersey Devil episode because I mean,

964
00:50:38,119 --> 00:50:38,639
I'm that's a.

965
00:50:38,639 --> 00:50:40,679
Speaker 4: Story would be fun too.

966
00:50:41,599 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 2: Well, there's a Rugaroo down there would be fun. We

967
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,719
should totally do the Rugaroo amazing, and then you could

968
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,039
also probably do something in New Orleans. You could probably

969
00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:56,039
find a famous you know, haunting story or voodoo story

970
00:50:56,159 --> 00:51:00,599
or something much there. And that's if we did a

971
00:51:00,679 --> 00:51:02,960
south trip we could do those the Rugaroo when we

972
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,679
could do something in New Orleans and we could cut

973
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,400
across to falc and go and do the Falcon Monster

974
00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:16,079
with the Texarkana area. I know that the Boggy Creek Monster. Sorry,

975
00:51:16,119 --> 00:51:23,320
you know, that'd be fun. There's so many ideas, it's

976
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:29,480
really never ending. What else, though, what what else have

977
00:51:29,559 --> 00:51:33,199
you enjoyed so far with the so we talked. We

978
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,960
talked quite a bit about the C five one, the

979
00:51:36,039 --> 00:51:39,960
hod Egg one, what about the Beast of Bray Road,

980
00:51:40,039 --> 00:51:44,559
because I think somebody was asking me recently if if

981
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,840
it was weird when we were in Brairoad, did you

982
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,760
feel anything strange when you were in Brain Road? Like

983
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,559
was it did you feel it was a weird place.

984
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,079
Speaker 8: I feel like it's a weird place, and I don't

985
00:51:53,079 --> 00:51:55,159
know it was so much what it may be the

986
00:51:55,199 --> 00:51:58,159
place and the people maybe like I feel like it's

987
00:51:58,199 --> 00:52:01,599
not a friendly place. You just definitely get in and

988
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,840
get out, like you don't stay. There's something there, like

989
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:06,920
it doesn't feel right.

990
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 2: Tell the van's story, because that's, oh my.

991
00:52:09,519 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 8: Goodness, it was so Indana is so like engulfed with

992
00:52:13,039 --> 00:52:15,000
the camera and I'm driving at this point, so he's

993
00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:18,239
not even paying attention, like this van just started tailing

994
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:23,039
us like on on my tail, like on my tail.

995
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 4: And I don't know if he realized or if they

996
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,280
finally noticed like he had a camera or something. They

997
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:27,840
didn't like it.

998
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,079
Speaker 8: I don't know what the story behind this was, but

999
00:52:31,519 --> 00:52:34,360
it was up until we got to the point where

1000
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,639
they realized like, oh, they are leaving.

1001
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,079
Speaker 4: They're not staying, They're leaving. They did a ui like

1002
00:52:40,159 --> 00:52:42,599
in the middle of this, what was to see them

1003
00:52:42,599 --> 00:52:43,440
when they're fifty five.

1004
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,039
Speaker 8: Yeah, probably they just stopped and like turned and like left,

1005
00:52:47,119 --> 00:52:50,280
and I'm like, but for a good two minutes on

1006
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,199
that road, like you're sitting there and I'm like, they

1007
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,239
are literally on my bumper, like they are right there.

1008
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,039
Speaker 2: It might have been wrecks because it was residential, so

1009
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:01,039
it might be even forty.

1010
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 8: But I remember it being faster than it should have

1011
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,840
been because there were so many lines and curves, so

1012
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,199
I was probably going. But yeah, they didn't. They didn't

1013
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,280
turn into a driveway. They didn't turn off onto a road.

1014
00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:16,719
They literally did a yui as soon as like we

1015
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,239
were past the point of I don't know what the

1016
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,480
point was for them, but then they just you eat

1017
00:53:23,559 --> 00:53:25,800
and left. I'm like, oh, they didn't like us.

1018
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,039
Speaker 2: I wonder if we were poking around with a camera,

1019
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:34,719
I what it was, or we're more conspiratorial. It was

1020
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,480
like one of the Satanic cults there that supposedly called

1021
00:53:37,519 --> 00:53:40,960
in the Beast. In the first place, they wanted to

1022
00:53:41,079 --> 00:53:42,719
they wanted to throw us into the back of that

1023
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:43,280
van and.

1024
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,679
Speaker 8: Anybody that was past, like any passerby. I feel like

1025
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,519
even when we had like when we were pulling the

1026
00:53:50,679 --> 00:53:55,320
side road with the with the barn, like that truck

1027
00:53:56,159 --> 00:53:59,239
went around us and we I think we had to

1028
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,679
turn around their driveway or something. They're dogs, but there

1029
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,639
was like no wave. There was like nothing, And I

1030
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:10,360
was like, Okay, they don't like people in a way.

1031
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,039
Speaker 2: I get it. I get if somebody drives. I mean,

1032
00:54:13,039 --> 00:54:14,800
I'm on a rural back road, as you will know,

1033
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,400
and you always raise your hand at somebody. And if

1034
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,960
you're driving along, you know, the people in their yard

1035
00:54:20,039 --> 00:54:23,559
or pedestrians usually raise their hand to you. But that said,

1036
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:28,760
I'm also not at I guess a weird paranormal hot

1037
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,800
spot where I get paranormal tourists cruising along, hold hanging

1038
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,119
out the camp, hanging out.

1039
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 8: The windows, be used to it, and you moved there

1040
00:54:37,079 --> 00:54:39,320
like this was a younger guy, like you must know

1041
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:40,599
the story right.

1042
00:54:42,159 --> 00:54:43,119
Speaker 4: Right, I don't know.

1043
00:54:43,559 --> 00:54:46,199
Speaker 2: I don't know either. I wonder how I mean when

1044
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,280
I guess in some ways, we and probably most of

1045
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,360
the people who watch the show paranormal tourists. And I

1046
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,719
don't mean that dismissively. I mean that we might be

1047
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,679
interested in going places or consuming some of this content.

1048
00:54:59,679 --> 00:55:01,760
I'm sure there are people who watch the show who

1049
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,159
actually do have to deal with it on a daily level,

1050
00:55:04,199 --> 00:55:06,719
you know, experiences and things, but for the most part,

1051
00:55:07,199 --> 00:55:09,719
most of us are probably just you know, interested in

1052
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,599
consuming it. But I wonder what it would be like

1053
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,239
to live like in bray Road, or to live like

1054
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,800
in Lockness, or to live like you know, in Roswell,

1055
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,079
New Mexican. Well, some of these towns obviously embrace it,

1056
00:55:22,199 --> 00:55:26,039
like ryan Land has clearly embraced the hod Ache clearly clearly,

1057
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:32,559
like Roswell's clearly embraced the UFO crash. I think what

1058
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,360
might be one in the middle might be Point Pleasant,

1059
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,280
West Virginia, because I have the suspicion there the towns

1060
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,480
embrace it to a degree. But I've also heard there

1061
00:55:40,519 --> 00:55:43,159
are people there who don't so much, you know, like

1062
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,000
attaching the idea of Mothmann or the tragedy of the

1063
00:55:46,039 --> 00:55:49,320
bridge collapse and everything. But it would have that.

1064
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 8: Even even when you look at rand and I'm sure

1065
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,199
there people are like, oh, I'm so sick, you know

1066
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,400
what I mean, Like, I'm sure you have those those people.

1067
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,880
But like at nbray Road, what you can tell the

1068
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:03,559
one person in the entire little community who embraces it,

1069
00:56:03,599 --> 00:56:06,920
and it's the one person who has the beast in

1070
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,519
their yard, you know what I mean? Like you can

1071
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,000
there's nobody else like you can't that for a second,

1072
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,360
because you don't see any images of it anywhere else

1073
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:15,719
other than that one spot.

1074
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 4: You're muted.

1075
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 2: I just saw that. We just had a question and

1076
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:27,599
I was just looking up because from Squatch Mama and

1077
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,440
the Scotch Mama, who's been a regular viewer of the

1078
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,800
show for years now, asks is there a cryptid uf

1079
00:56:34,079 --> 00:56:37,280
Ufo film Festival in Great Falls, Montana? And there is?

1080
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,360
Did you hear us talking about it before, Squatch Mama,

1081
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:45,119
because that's where that's where we played the Shaver Mystery? Right,

1082
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,920
that was the Great the Great Beyond. That's what I

1083
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,239
just I didn't want to get the title of the

1084
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,679
festival wrong. It's the Great Beyond. We played the Shaver

1085
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,000
Mystery at right in Great Falls, Montana?

1086
00:56:55,119 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 5: Is that right?

1087
00:56:56,199 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1088
00:56:57,039 --> 00:56:59,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there is. That's just what I was very quickly.

1089
00:56:59,559 --> 00:57:02,239
I wanted to get that the That was definitely Great Falls,

1090
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:08,000
I'm pretty sure, is that right? Yeah? So I think

1091
00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:09,760
we played out a film there is there? Do you

1092
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,960
have a story from their Squatch mommer? If there is

1093
00:57:13,199 --> 00:57:16,480
Squatch Mama just said that's right. So yeah, maybe there's

1094
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:17,159
a story there.

1095
00:57:17,239 --> 00:57:17,559
Speaker 4: You know what.

1096
00:57:18,199 --> 00:57:20,199
Speaker 2: I haven't submitted a film to there this year, but

1097
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,320
maybe maybe we should submit something and if we end

1098
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,320
up in that area, we can do something out in

1099
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,639
the Montana area as well. I do know we have

1100
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,559
to go to California at some stage before the end

1101
00:57:31,639 --> 00:57:35,360
of before the snow sets in this year. So if

1102
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,920
anybody has some Californian ideas for I'm sure there's plenty

1103
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:43,679
out there. I mean, Giant Rock might be cool to

1104
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,880
go to in the California desert where they used to

1105
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,440
have the UFO contact ee conferences. That might be an

1106
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:53,480
awesome spot where else in California? What else? Anybody have suggestions?

1107
00:57:53,519 --> 00:57:55,440
Throw it in the chat. I'll look at it even

1108
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:59,079
if I don't get to it now. But it was

1109
00:57:59,159 --> 00:58:00,599
fun to talk to you about this, honey.

1110
00:58:00,719 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: I really liked it.

1111
00:58:03,159 --> 00:58:05,519
Speaker 2: It's like we were workshopping the show in front of

1112
00:58:05,599 --> 00:58:08,000
our audience. Just sit with me and Sam while we

1113
00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:15,239
workshop our show for oh dear, funny funny stuff. So

1114
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,280
you're looking forward to the fourth before we say goodbye.

1115
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, spent a little a little crazy.

1116
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,599
Speaker 2: I could tell you sent me it was so much fun.

1117
00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 8: He remembers us every year though, and this year it

1118
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,960
was funny because I had all three of my kids,

1119
00:58:30,679 --> 00:58:31,360
and you looked at me.

1120
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,679
Speaker 4: As like you just make short people, don't you.

1121
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: Didn't you say he gave you some free fireworks or something.

1122
00:58:40,159 --> 00:58:43,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh, he's so good. He's so he's so sweet,

1123
00:58:43,679 --> 00:58:44,320
he's so nice.

1124
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, There's a I posted on Facebook

1125
00:58:48,639 --> 00:58:51,920
before at this time of the year. There's there's an

1126
00:58:52,039 --> 00:58:55,480
old letter that John Adams wrote to his wife Abigail

1127
00:58:55,639 --> 00:58:59,559
back in seventeen seventy six, and it was just after

1128
00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:02,599
they'd im the Declaration, and he said, you know something

1129
00:59:02,639 --> 00:59:05,239
along the lines of to his wife, you know, I

1130
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:10,000
think this day will be celebrated by generations to come,

1131
00:59:10,079 --> 00:59:13,280
and it should be with making giant fires and ringing

1132
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:17,679
of bells and sporting competitions and parades and shooting of firearms.

1133
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,960
And it's just this wonderful letter, and it's it's so

1134
00:59:21,199 --> 00:59:26,159
pressing that Adams understood then and there how significant the

1135
00:59:26,239 --> 00:59:29,039
signing of the Declaration was, and to know that that

1136
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,719
would be a national holiday for like centuries to come.

1137
00:59:33,159 --> 00:59:35,760
It's an incredible letter. I should repost it again this year.

1138
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 4: The big one. So this is pretty cool, exciting.

1139
00:59:39,559 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, the two. I'm just honored to be in this

1140
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,239
country for the two hundred and fiftieth. I really am,

1141
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,320
like it's it's going to be the biggest one that

1142
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,760
I get to spend, you know, in this country. That's

1143
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,599
for sure. I must I make it another fifty years.

1144
00:59:51,639 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 4: You never know.

1145
00:59:52,639 --> 00:59:55,039
Speaker 2: It's a strange world. But assuming I don't, this is

1146
00:59:55,119 --> 01:00:00,039
going to be the biggest, the most significant celebration. I

1147
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:04,360
hope that it is something that can bring this country together.

1148
01:00:04,559 --> 01:00:09,079
And I hope wherever anybody is that they ring bells

1149
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,599
and see parades and start fires and shoot off fireworks

1150
01:00:12,599 --> 01:00:14,239
and if you can do it safely where you are,

1151
01:00:15,039 --> 01:00:18,360
shoot off your firearms just like Adams imagines you're doing

1152
01:00:18,639 --> 01:00:23,119
two hundred and fifty years ago this weekend. That said,

1153
01:00:23,519 --> 01:00:26,360
until I talk to you again, honey, which hopefully will

1154
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,199
be very soon, And before I say that, thank you

1155
01:00:28,239 --> 01:00:29,920
for coming on. It was great getting a chat to

1156
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:30,960
you on the show to name.

1157
01:00:32,159 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.

1158
01:00:33,599 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 2: Of course, You're always welcome. And until I get to

1159
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:36,920
talk to you, which I know will be very soon,

1160
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,679
and until I get to talk to everybody else out there,

1161
01:00:39,719 --> 01:00:41,800
which will be after the fourth of July weekend, so

1162
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:46,440
again make sure you have a fun one, but most

1163
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,159
of all, please keep it weird.