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<v Speaker 1>Bill, can you hear me? No, we lose connection.

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<v Speaker 2>Liam, Welcome back to the Spooky Shed. I am your host.

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<v Speaker 2>I will be taking over from here. You'll get a

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<v Speaker 2>laugh out of this. And you rewatched this and go

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<v Speaker 2>to edit it. No, I'm a capricorn. I like long

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<v Speaker 2>walks on the beach. I don't like to go barefooted,

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<v Speaker 2>though kind of self conscious about being barefooted. I like

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<v Speaker 2>to have my socks on. I'm looking for love and

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<v Speaker 2>all the wrong places, you know. I'm looking for missus right.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's got to be a little on the fringy side.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't be missus uptight, you know, she's got to be

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<v Speaker 2>missus laid back. And uh, you know, I've had enough

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<v Speaker 2>missus wrongs. So it's I'm gonna take my time and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna settle this go around. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>they say, there are times a charm right, They're not

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<v Speaker 2>using any of this stuff for reals. But do you

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<v Speaker 2>a sclamer to the fair season? Karns out there? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>All guests on the show do not reflect the opinions

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<v Speaker 3>of hosting. The purpose of the show is to have

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<v Speaker 3>anything comes, stretch our minds and grow, not what we want.

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<v Speaker 3>If you are looking for an echo chamber. You were listener,

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<v Speaker 3>Discretion is advised.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you talk about extreme?

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<v Speaker 1>What is happening and what is U? Hold out your

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<v Speaker 1>glass because we're about to feel.

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<v Speaker 4>The join us as we travel and explore the vast unknown.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a hero's journey with dragons to slay, damsels to save,

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<v Speaker 4>and innumerable treasures to hoard. Our torch is high, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>look at it from a different perspective, different perspective.

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<v Speaker 5>Right then, guys, welcome back to the Spooky Shed podcast.

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<v Speaker 6>I have a special guest with me tonight.

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<v Speaker 5>So tonight I have got Justin Doc Brown, author of

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<v Speaker 5>the epic of Esau.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm i saying that right Justin.

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<v Speaker 1>He nailed it, Man Nail, Welcome.

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<v Speaker 6>To the podcast and welcome to the Shed, my friend.

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<v Speaker 6>How are we?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing great, man, thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 6>Good good.

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<v Speaker 1>I said it on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, it's the cool shared I don't know why you

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<v Speaker 2>spooky shies cool ship.

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<v Speaker 6>And almost like I said, spooky is cool. So it works.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, once we.

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<v Speaker 5>Get on, I'll get a few spider webs up in

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<v Speaker 5>here and somebody we'll make it a bit spook here

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<v Speaker 5>at some point. Right then, for any of our listeners.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you want to tell them about yourself? Tell him

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<v Speaker 5>about your podcast beforeward jump in obviously to the main

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<v Speaker 5>part of the episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, my name is Justin Brown. Like I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of got the nickname dark. I started podcasting back in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty too. But I'm just your normal nine to five knuckle.

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<v Speaker 1>Drag, you know, factory rat.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh my, my name really suits me. Well, there's so

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<v Speaker 2>many Justin Brown's. It's a very common thing. I've even

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<v Speaker 2>been accused of being like a like being a pseudonym,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm a guy on the run that just made

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<v Speaker 2>up this common name to you know, to try to

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<v Speaker 2>get away from the law or something. But no, I

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<v Speaker 2>work in plastics, got two kids and family and everything. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>I just go to work, pay my bills and just

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<v Speaker 2>your normal guy. But I've always loved history, and I

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<v Speaker 2>always loved conspiracy and the weird fringy stuff. And uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm from the hills of East Tennessee, so I'm uh

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<v Speaker 2>what some people call it a heel billy. That's where

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<v Speaker 2>where the twang comes from. But uh yeah, man, grew

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<v Speaker 2>up in the Bible Belt's what they call it. So

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<v Speaker 2>church was always a normal part of my life, but

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<v Speaker 2>teenage years came rebelled, just you know, typical story. But

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<v Speaker 2>I was always fascinated with the Bible and the stories

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<v Speaker 2>in the Bible and stuff like that. And when I

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<v Speaker 2>come back and started cleaning my life back up and

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<v Speaker 2>trying to walk the straight and narrow, I stumbled across

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<v Speaker 2>people like Trey Smith and Timothy Alvarino and Steve Quail

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<v Speaker 2>and all these guys talking about all these weird things,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in the Bible, like angels coming down and

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<v Speaker 2>breeding with men and creating these hybrid giant races and

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<v Speaker 2>aliens and UFOs and vampires and cryptids.

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<v Speaker 1>And all this stuff in the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, man, these guys are heretics. They're just

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<v Speaker 2>full of it. Man, I've read them with the Bible

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<v Speaker 2>many times. That stuff's not in there. Got to looking

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<v Speaker 2>through man. Sure enough, it was like right there in

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<v Speaker 2>front of my face. The whole time, I was just

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<v Speaker 2>one of those guys that fell victim to dogma. I

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<v Speaker 2>just listened to my pastors and people around me tell

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<v Speaker 2>me what to believe, even told me what was in there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I never really took a deep dive for myself.

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<v Speaker 2>And so once I did and started finding all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, it did.

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<v Speaker 2>It just lit a fire underneath me. Man, I was

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<v Speaker 2>never the guy that liked to read or was a

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<v Speaker 2>studious person. But ever since that day, it was around

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twelve, as you see behind me, I got a

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<v Speaker 2>large collection of books and that's not even the half

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<v Speaker 2>of them. It's like lit this thirst for knowledge and

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<v Speaker 2>to learn all this stuff about ancient history and lost

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<v Speaker 2>civilizations and the Bible and how all this stuff connects.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>And that just led to talking about it in podcasts,

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<v Speaker 2>and me and my buddies up started a podcast in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two called the dig Bible Podcast and we've done

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<v Speaker 2>that for a few years. And then that ended up

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<v Speaker 2>leading to me wanting to talk about even more broader topics.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Like I said, I always loved history and

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<v Speaker 2>ancient loss civilizations and all that kind of stuff. So

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<v Speaker 2>I started The Prometheus Lens a year ago and I

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<v Speaker 2>just now published my first book. So it's been quite

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<v Speaker 2>the journey going down this road and exploring all these

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<v Speaker 2>fascinating topics.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's it sounds like a hell of a journey,

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<v Speaker 6>to be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I do usually like to go back, I think, say,

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<v Speaker 5>with old guests and ask you know where the interest

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<v Speaker 5>comes into the weirder things in life, as I'd like

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<v Speaker 5>to call it. But I'm guessing then from what you've

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<v Speaker 5>said there, that you were sort of later to it then,

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<v Speaker 5>because obviously a lot of people starts at a younger age.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, even as a kid, I mean, I loved the

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<v Speaker 2>the what I thought was weird in the Bible was

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<v Speaker 2>just they kind of whitewashed it for me. Like Goliath,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, man, what's up with this guy? He

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<v Speaker 2>was so big, you know, and then even he saw

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, I was like, he come out with hair.

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<v Speaker 1>All over him? What's up with that? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>He was just there was that was hyperbole, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>He just had a real good beard and knew how

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<v Speaker 2>your uncles werew.

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<v Speaker 1>Harry on his back. That's what that is.

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<v Speaker 2>And they really whitewashed that stuff. But I always loved

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<v Speaker 2>horror fel and supernatural stuff and comic book heroes things

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<v Speaker 2>like that. But my grandmother, she was a Native American,

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<v Speaker 2>and she always had some wild stories, I mean, and

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<v Speaker 2>she would talk about ghosts and apparitions and stuff she

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<v Speaker 2>had seen and things like that, and that really kind

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<v Speaker 2>of always grab my attention. So anytime I was around

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<v Speaker 2>my grandmother, I'd always just want to sit down with

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<v Speaker 2>her and have her just tell me all the stories

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<v Speaker 2>she knew, and stories about the Bell Witch here in

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<v Speaker 2>East Tennessee. And so I always had a fascination, even

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<v Speaker 2>as a kid, for the supernatural.

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<v Speaker 5>Now that makes sense, I can. I can definitely understand. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>I can relate, well, not not so much relate, but

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<v Speaker 5>I can definitely see why you would enjoy the stories

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<v Speaker 5>coming from there. From from you, grandma, you said that

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<v Speaker 5>would definitely be interesting. You mentioned that horror movies and

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<v Speaker 5>comic book heroes straight off the bat then evers.

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<v Speaker 6>Mm hmmm, uh, you got favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love Freddy Krueger as a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>those movies are laughable, you know. But back then, man,

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<v Speaker 2>they were they were pretty terrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>But I loved the idea of well, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know that sounds terrible now, but I thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>really cool that it was a horror guy that would

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<v Speaker 2>come to you in your dreams, you know, and then

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<v Speaker 2>fed off your fear and just all that stuff. When

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<v Speaker 2>I was a kid, that I thought that was fascinating

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, far as superheroes, of course, I was always

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<v Speaker 2>the big Superman guy. What little kid doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>fly and shoot, you know, fire from his eyes and

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<v Speaker 2>uh snow from his mouth and blow blow out stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it was like, yeah, Superman was always a

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<v Speaker 2>one of my favorites, and trying to think and as

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<v Speaker 2>I got older, like my teenage years, when you get

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed with being big and strong and uh, the Hulk

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<v Speaker 2>my camera angle, but I got a uh uh uh

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<v Speaker 2>an oil painting that a friend that was a tattoo

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<v Speaker 2>artist did up the Hulk over here. He's all green

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<v Speaker 2>and muscled up and stuff. And in the background, I

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<v Speaker 2>got a big green Hulk standing right there figure green.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Hulk I always thought he was pretty cool. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what about you? You said you was a big comic

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<v Speaker 1>book guy and horror guy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well the same Nightmaron on Street was always my favorite,

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<v Speaker 5>purely just because he was the It was the first

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<v Speaker 5>one I watched when I was about nine years old,

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<v Speaker 5>so it was like I always remember it was like

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<v Speaker 5>two o'clock in the morning, stayed up to watch it

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<v Speaker 5>and then didn't sleep for the rest of the week. Well, superheroes,

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<v Speaker 5>for me, it was always Spider Man.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know. I just always liked

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<v Speaker 6>Spider Man mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was right even like as I got older.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking back now, it's like, out of all the the

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<v Speaker 2>horror people, you know, the horror vielains, Freddy Krueger is

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<v Speaker 2>honestly the most supernatural and almost like demonic and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and real because you think about it. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>got the whole incubus and sucubists and night terrors and

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<v Speaker 2>the lucid dreams and all that kind of stuff, and

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<v Speaker 2>the whole Alister Crowley and all those guys talking about Loosh.

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<v Speaker 2>How these demonic entities and stuff feed off of your fear.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what Freddie was. And I think that's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Once I started studying that stuff and looking back, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, man, that's exactly what Freddy was. He was

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<v Speaker 2>a Loosh monster. And even Disney played off of that

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<v Speaker 2>with that movie Monsters.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Well that was the problem I found with the

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<v Speaker 5>remake of Night Aroure on Elm Street one. Well, first off,

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<v Speaker 5>it was just terribly done and terribly acted, but they

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<v Speaker 5>really they really leaned in because I was in the Originals,

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<v Speaker 5>it was always insinuated that, you know, he was a

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<v Speaker 5>bit of a pedophile. But they're really leaned into it

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<v Speaker 5>in that remake, one, which to me just sort of

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<v Speaker 5>sort of ruined it because even though even though it's

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<v Speaker 5>insinuated in the Originals, you're still you're still kind of

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<v Speaker 5>root for him, even though he's the bad guy, if

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<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean. Yeah, that makes any sense.

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<v Speaker 5>And the ruined.

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<v Speaker 7>It root for the fildum.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh the fox.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 8>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, well, we lose connection ship.

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<v Speaker 7>M h h kah liam h.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, welcome back to the Spooky Shed. I am your host.

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<v Speaker 2>I will be taken over from here.

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<v Speaker 1>Go get a laugh out of this when you rewatch

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<v Speaker 1>this and go to edit it. M No, I'm a capricorn.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I like long walks on the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to have my socks on.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking for love and all the wrong places, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm I'm looking for missus right, and she's got

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<v Speaker 2>to be a little on the fringy side. Uh, I

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<v Speaker 2>Missus laid back and uh you know I've had enough

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<v Speaker 2>Missus wrongs. So it's I'm gonna take my time and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna settle this go around. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>they say, there are times of charm, right, you better

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<v Speaker 7>Bad h there you are.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that was extremely annoying. I don't know what happened there.

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<v Speaker 5>That has never happened before.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you froze up and then you just kind of left.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna get.

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<v Speaker 2>Sitting here, I was like, well, I'm the host of

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<v Speaker 2>the Spooky Shed podcast and uh now I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>such and such years old. I'm a Capricorn looking for

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<v Speaker 2>love and all the wrong places. I like a long

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<v Speaker 2>walks on the beach, but I prefer socks on. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking for Missus right now, you know, third times of charms?

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<v Speaker 2>What I hear just being our celi and stuff. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Liam, youre not using this ship on reels?

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<v Speaker 6>Well I do?

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<v Speaker 5>I Well, I have just started to do that that

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<v Speaker 5>that one might after make an appearance now, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I honestly I've got no idea what happened now that

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<v Speaker 5>has never happened before there, So that there's our first

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<v Speaker 6>We'll say, I can't remember what we were talking about.

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<v Speaker 5>But I also forgot off mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>That was when you said that you hated how they

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<v Speaker 2>do it out that he was a pedophile, that it

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of killed it for you, that you couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>root for the villain anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, well it did, to be fair, just it

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<v Speaker 5>just sort of killed it for me. But I said,

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<v Speaker 5>I completely forgot how we start these episodes off.

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<v Speaker 6>Now I'm a complete idiot.

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<v Speaker 5>So we'll do this now and then I'll have to

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<v Speaker 5>put this at the beginning even more fun to edit.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's still justortant, so we can just pick up

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<v Speaker 2>well we left off and you can just cut it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I said, I'll just I'll do this a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit now and then I'll just have to move it

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<v Speaker 5>around in the edit, because like this is usually usually

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<v Speaker 6>So justin with our guests.

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<v Speaker 5>Now what we do is we get we ask all

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<v Speaker 5>our guests now to leave something in the shed with us.

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<v Speaker 5>So it can be anything place a person feeling. Thing

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<v Speaker 5>could be anything. So what would you like to leave

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<v Speaker 5>in the shed with us?

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<v Speaker 7>I will leave.

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<v Speaker 1>Can Can you leave advice?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, that's been done before.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'll leave some old main advice o QP. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's some of the best advice I ever got. But

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<v Speaker 2>unfortunately I got it really late in my life, so

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't really help me as much as it could have.

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<v Speaker 2>And that OQP means only quality people. So you know

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<v Speaker 2>you are who you surround yourself with, So surround yourself

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<v Speaker 2>with the only quality people. If you are the smartest,

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<v Speaker 2>you're a lady, if you're the smartest, well, whatever the

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<v Speaker 2>ist you want to put to it. If you are

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<v Speaker 2>new friend circle or you need to expand that friend circle.

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<v Speaker 2>Because us as humans, if we are not moving forward,

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<v Speaker 2>we are moving backwards. We always need to have something

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<v Speaker 2>to chase and go after and strive to be better.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if you are an eagle, if you run around

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<v Speaker 2>with a bunch of turkeys. Eventually you're going to forget

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<v Speaker 2>how to fly and you're gonna start clucking baby. Only

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<v Speaker 2>quality people.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I like that, that's actually really good advice. I

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<v Speaker 5>want to check down on board myself. Actually right then,

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<v Speaker 5>so I'll put that in there, right, So where do

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<v Speaker 5>we go from there? And so we're talking about Freddy

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<v Speaker 5>Krueger and stuff, weren't we.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Right, there we go? Then there we go.

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<v Speaker 5>So once you've started looking more into the weirder things

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<v Speaker 5>of this world that we live in, have you had

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<v Speaker 5>any strange experiences since you've started looking more into things?

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<v Speaker 6>Because me and a friend of mine.

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<v Speaker 5>Who has a podcast as well, we sort of say that,

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<v Speaker 5>especially with the paranormal, when you when you look, when

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<v Speaker 5>you look into it, it looks back at you. So

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<v Speaker 5>I think the more you look into things, the more

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<v Speaker 5>you start to notice and experience things.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh definitely, especially if you are a Christian and you're

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<v Speaker 2>like talking about this stuff and you're exposing you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the deeds of darkness. There's definitely some spiritual warfare attached

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<v Speaker 2>to it. When I first started, and I was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I tell people all the time, it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm that guy that I always plan for the worst,

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<v Speaker 2>but I hope for the best, you know, that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never let down or surprised and so but I

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<v Speaker 2>tell those people when they say that to me, I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Reggie the realist, and I'm always being kind of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, take my emotions out, what are the facts,

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<v Speaker 2>Show me the facts. So I think that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>hinders my ability for supernatural type things. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>mindset kind of hinders it. And even as a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>I've always been fascinated with it, and I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>purposefully seeked these experiences. I've went to these haunted houses

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<v Speaker 2>and played with weedy boards and tearror cards and done

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<v Speaker 2>all this stuff, and I've never really had like like

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<v Speaker 2>a real experience. I've had little moments, you know, where

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<v Speaker 2>a candle blew out, you know, doing a seance or something,

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<v Speaker 2>or think I hear something, but they just been little

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<v Speaker 2>subtleties to where someone could easily argue or you tell yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>or that never had like a full long experience like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But once I started doing the podcast and stuff, I

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<v Speaker 2>actually had a visit like a night terror like sleep

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<v Speaker 2>paralyss event, and it was I actually got a visit

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<v Speaker 2>from the demon Lilith. And I had no idea who

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<v Speaker 2>she was or anything. But I had a dream and

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<v Speaker 2>it was the first time I'd ever experienced sleep paralysis,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I couldn't move. I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And in this dream, I was driving down the road

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<v Speaker 2>it over, and I just honked the horn to try

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<v Speaker 2>It was blond hair, but it had a it was weird.

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<v Speaker 2>and it just looks right at us, and everybody in

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<v Speaker 1>Then it just flies up into the air and I'm like, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I could feel every touch, I could feel her wet

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<v Speaker 2>tongue on my neck, I mean everything, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>this is a dream, wake up, wake up, and I

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<v Speaker 2>remember my eyes started fluttering open and I started seeing

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, okay, I'm waking up.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was just like something grabbed me and pulled

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<v Speaker 2>me right back in and boom, I was back in

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<v Speaker 2>the dream full fledged. And I kept trying to tell myself,

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<v Speaker 2>wake up, wake up, and it's just like something was

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<v Speaker 2>I can describe it. And still couldn't move. And then

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<v Speaker 2>into the air and kind of gets just a little

423
00:25:21.319 --> 00:25:24.279
<v Speaker 2>bit of distance away from me, I can instantly wake up.

424
00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:27.759
<v Speaker 2>And I woke up, and I was hyperventilating, freaking out

425
00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:32.480
<v Speaker 2>porn sweat, and woke the wife up and immediately just

426
00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:34.799
<v Speaker 2>like started telling her about it. And she was one

427
00:25:34.839 --> 00:25:38.720
<v Speaker 2>of those type people. She had seen shadow entity, she

428
00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:41.599
<v Speaker 2>had been to Haiti and been hex by witch doctors

429
00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:46.480
<v Speaker 2>and been strangled by some of these night terrors, you know,

430
00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:49.240
<v Speaker 2>at night, and she's had a lot of supernatural experiences.

431
00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:50.559
<v Speaker 1>And she was one of.

432
00:25:50.599 --> 00:25:54.079
<v Speaker 2>Those people that believed dreams for prophetic and wrote them

433
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<v Speaker 2>all down and all that kind of stuff. So when

434
00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I was telling her about it, she was like looking

435
00:25:57.480 --> 00:26:01.400
<v Speaker 2>up online what all this stuff means. And immediately I

436
00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:04.000
<v Speaker 2>pulled out my phone and I'm like half bird, half woman,

437
00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:06.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, in your dreams and all this stuff. And

438
00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:09.519
<v Speaker 2>it was like the second picture that popped up, I

439
00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:12.519
<v Speaker 2>mean it was her, and I'm like, that's her, and

440
00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:14.440
<v Speaker 2>I clicked it and it was like, this is Lilith.

441
00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:17.160
<v Speaker 2>And I got to reading about her and stuff, and

442
00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:18.960
<v Speaker 2>like I said, I'd never looked into her.

443
00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:20.079
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what she was.

444
00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:25.799
<v Speaker 2>But everything it talked about, how it described her, the picture,

445
00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:30.880
<v Speaker 2>everything was spot on. And like I told you, I

446
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:33.880
<v Speaker 2>had went through like a rebellious stage. And then that

447
00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:37.319
<v Speaker 2>rebellious stage, man, it was it was sex, drugs and

448
00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:40.839
<v Speaker 2>rock and roll. And I was really sexually promiscuous, done

449
00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:45.599
<v Speaker 2>a lot of drugs, and so it's kind of like

450
00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:50.279
<v Speaker 2>the Lord told me in prayer, was like, unbeknownst to me,

451
00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:55.160
<v Speaker 2>that wasn't just a good time. I was in cahoots

452
00:26:55.960 --> 00:27:00.640
<v Speaker 2>and running with and had formed a spiritual connection with

453
00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:05.799
<v Speaker 2>this entity because she was you know, her and Anana.

454
00:27:05.880 --> 00:27:09.079
<v Speaker 2>All these goddesses and stuff, they're synonymous, they're the same.

455
00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:15.599
<v Speaker 2>And Anana was like the goddess of mindless violence and

456
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:19.480
<v Speaker 2>sex and the people would take all these drugs and

457
00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:23.720
<v Speaker 2>stuff to call her into them and all this kind

458
00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:26.640
<v Speaker 2>of stuff and to prophesy and have visions and all this.

459
00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:28.960
<v Speaker 2>So it was kind of like, you know, God was

460
00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:31.519
<v Speaker 2>showing me, Yeah, during those years, that's who you were

461
00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:35.640
<v Speaker 2>communing with. And what was crazy is that I should

462
00:27:35.640 --> 00:27:38.720
<v Speaker 2>have led with this. But I was having some lower

463
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:42.160
<v Speaker 2>back pain. I went to the doctor just right before this,

464
00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:47.519
<v Speaker 2>and the doctor put me on antidepressants and I told him.

465
00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:49.319
<v Speaker 1>I was like, dude, I'm not depressed. I set up

466
00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:50.079
<v Speaker 1>my back's hurting.

467
00:27:50.799 --> 00:27:53.119
<v Speaker 2>And he was like, oh, well, these block pain receptors

468
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:55.759
<v Speaker 2>and they're not addictive, you know, like narcotics and stuff.

469
00:27:56.200 --> 00:27:57.119
<v Speaker 1>I think they'll help you.

470
00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:02.400
<v Speaker 2>And that's when I started having crazy dreams. And that's

471
00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:05.160
<v Speaker 2>when I had that dream. So I flushed that medication

472
00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:08.119
<v Speaker 2>down the toilet, and it was like, so where I

473
00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:09.839
<v Speaker 2>got off the drugs and all that stuff. It's like

474
00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:13.319
<v Speaker 2>when I finally took some kind of mind altering substance.

475
00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:18.119
<v Speaker 2>It's like I lowered that Holy Spirit wall and allowed

476
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:21.200
<v Speaker 2>her to to get back to me again. Kind of,

477
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:23.759
<v Speaker 2>it's the only way I could interpret it.

478
00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:29.319
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that that is that is honestly, that's one of

479
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:32.440
<v Speaker 5>the craziest things I've ever heard since we've been doing

480
00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:34.119
<v Speaker 5>this podcast. Like I was literally on the edge of

481
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:36.079
<v Speaker 5>my seat there when you were telling that there. That

482
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:40.920
<v Speaker 5>is horrifying, Like I mean, I mean, I'm not gonna

483
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:42.279
<v Speaker 5>lie that. If that happened to me, I don't think.

484
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:43.920
<v Speaker 5>I don't think I'd be able to go to sleep again.

485
00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:45.440
<v Speaker 5>I mean, like say, I mean, I know we were

486
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:49.240
<v Speaker 5>talking about Freddy Krueger and stuff, but that's that's that's worse.

487
00:28:50.440 --> 00:28:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

488
00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then not only that too, man, uh you know,

489
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:56.839
<v Speaker 2>and I could talk about it now because it's been

490
00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:00.880
<v Speaker 2>about a year, but when I started casting and stuff,

491
00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:04.839
<v Speaker 2>like I said, I'd been deep dive researching since twenty twelve.

492
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:07.640
<v Speaker 2>If I wasn't at work, I mean, of course, I

493
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:09.559
<v Speaker 2>mean I spent time with my family and stuff. But

494
00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:12.400
<v Speaker 2>it's like in my free time, I was listening to

495
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:15.839
<v Speaker 2>podcasts or I was reading a book and doing this

496
00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:16.519
<v Speaker 2>type stuff.

497
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:17.480
<v Speaker 1>But it's like, once I.

498
00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:22.079
<v Speaker 2>Started talking about this stuff, me and my wife started

499
00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:27.319
<v Speaker 2>having issues at home, and so I was like, you know,

500
00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:29.680
<v Speaker 2>this has to be it because we never had issues,

501
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:35.720
<v Speaker 2>and push come to shove. It got to the point

502
00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:41.440
<v Speaker 2>where she basically told me that I was paying too

503
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:48.279
<v Speaker 2>much attention to podcasting and to the Bible study, and

504
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:51.119
<v Speaker 2>that I was going to quit, that I was going

505
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:55.400
<v Speaker 2>to put it all down, or we were going to

506
00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:55.799
<v Speaker 2>be over.

507
00:29:57.160 --> 00:29:58.160
<v Speaker 1>And at this point We've.

508
00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:00.759
<v Speaker 2>Been fighting like cats and dogs for months, and I've

509
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:03.880
<v Speaker 2>been threatening to you know, to to leave if we

510
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:06.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't get along anyway, So we was already living in

511
00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:10.799
<v Speaker 2>hell anyway. Yeah, and and honestly, it was just like

512
00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:14.200
<v Speaker 2>at that point, it was like I'm doing this, you know,

513
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:18.680
<v Speaker 2>to try to bring people to Christ and the people

514
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:22.519
<v Speaker 2>that are are already with Christ grow their knowledge about

515
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:25.920
<v Speaker 2>things and help them, you know, spiritually fight off you know,

516
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:28.720
<v Speaker 2>deceptions and things like that. It's like, this is the

517
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:32.359
<v Speaker 2>this is something I felt called to do. And I

518
00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:35.480
<v Speaker 2>never had a purpose or a calling. I've always just

519
00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:37.160
<v Speaker 2>been that guy that just went to work, page bills,

520
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:40.960
<v Speaker 2>come home, and that was it. M and uh So basically, yeah,

521
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:44.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean that this whole thing, like you said, the

522
00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:47.680
<v Speaker 2>spiritual warfare side of it and the attacks, it's real.

523
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:51.799
<v Speaker 1>It cost me my marriage.

524
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:54.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean like that's that's that's some heavy stuff

525
00:30:54.960 --> 00:31:00.559
<v Speaker 5>to deal with, what I suppose. I suppose so you

526
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:02.480
<v Speaker 5>can look at it on a on a almost a

527
00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:05.680
<v Speaker 5>brightest side. Like I say, if you feel like you're

528
00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:08.680
<v Speaker 5>being called to do this and like you said, you're

529
00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:12.759
<v Speaker 5>getting something out of it, then it's almost I don't

530
00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:14.240
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to. I don't want to say worth

531
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:16.480
<v Speaker 5>it because that's definitely the wrong word. But do you

532
00:31:16.559 --> 00:31:21.240
<v Speaker 5>know what I'm trying to say. Yeah, Yeah, I mean,

533
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:23.960
<v Speaker 5>it's a ship that that's happened. That's that's the way

534
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:26.440
<v Speaker 5>it's had to That's the way life had to plan

535
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:28.599
<v Speaker 5>out for you. But I mean, like I said, if

536
00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:30.400
<v Speaker 5>you're want of these people who believes that there's a

537
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:34.799
<v Speaker 5>plan for life, then I suppose it's almost easier to

538
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:35.559
<v Speaker 5>deal with as well.

539
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:40.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we get along great now, I mean, yeah,

540
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:42.960
<v Speaker 2>we get along great. We talk and do stuff with

541
00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:45.200
<v Speaker 2>the kids, and I can still go over there and

542
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:46.480
<v Speaker 2>visit and we talk and stuff.

543
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Everything's great. It's weird.

544
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:51.400
<v Speaker 2>It's just and that's the only thing I could strike

545
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:53.640
<v Speaker 2>it up to. It was just a it was a

546
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:57.079
<v Speaker 2>spiritual warfare type thing, and it was like the you know,

547
00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:00.519
<v Speaker 2>the the devil moving in and was just like, Okay,

548
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:02.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna shut this guy up.

549
00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:03.799
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

550
00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:06.680
<v Speaker 5>I mean I suppose I suppose at least you've you've

551
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:09.240
<v Speaker 5>got a very small silver line in there that you

552
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:11.880
<v Speaker 5>know you can still talk and you know, get along

553
00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:13.440
<v Speaker 5>with each other now, then I mean, it's not like

554
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:16.240
<v Speaker 5>ended in you know, you never speak to each.

555
00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:19.559
<v Speaker 6>Other again and the hell with sort of thing. So,

556
00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:26.799
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I suppose every cloud has one. Yeah, well

557
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:28.279
<v Speaker 6>I don't. I don't even I don't even know where

558
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:29.839
<v Speaker 6>to where to take it from there.

559
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:37.279
<v Speaker 5>That's it's, it's it's fine.

560
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:40.759
<v Speaker 2>I've done lots of shows, man, but I've never I've

561
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:43.960
<v Speaker 2>never talked about that. You know, it's being about a

562
00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:45.799
<v Speaker 2>year now, but it's just I don't know how I

563
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:48.559
<v Speaker 2>feel lad to say it now.

564
00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:51.920
<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean, I I mean, I I appreciate that.

565
00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:54.160
<v Speaker 5>I appreciate I appreciate you opening up telling us about that.

566
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:59.480
<v Speaker 5>That's that's that's really something. Like I said, it literally

567
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:02.640
<v Speaker 5>has knocked me for six I don't where do we

568
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:03.240
<v Speaker 5>go from there?

569
00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:06.480
<v Speaker 6>That's a good idea of that.

570
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:10.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll get some naked teams, some caffeine, think it,

571
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:11.440
<v Speaker 2>think it through.

572
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:12.839
<v Speaker 6>Yeah exactly.

573
00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:23.519
<v Speaker 5>Wow, damn Well, what am I doing is that? What

574
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:24.880
<v Speaker 5>am I doing is because I'm the only thing only

575
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:28.400
<v Speaker 5>thing I'm hoping that the first part is saved, because

576
00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:30.119
<v Speaker 5>I'm looking at the clock here and it says only

577
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:32.839
<v Speaker 5>twenty minutes. But we were going for about ten minutes before,

578
00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:34.359
<v Speaker 5>so I'm hoping that that's just saved.

579
00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:35.160
<v Speaker 6>There's another file.

580
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:36.680
<v Speaker 5>So what I might do now is I might do

581
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:38.759
<v Speaker 5>a little break bit and then we'll jump into you.

582
00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:41.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, are you on the free version or something?

583
00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:43.240
<v Speaker 1>You all get so many minutes?

584
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:45.640
<v Speaker 6>No, No, I'm not in the free version. No, I'm

585
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:47.279
<v Speaker 6>fully bloody paid one.

586
00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:49.039
<v Speaker 1>So that's okay.

587
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:51.559
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, I say, I know, I know before the

588
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:53.480
<v Speaker 5>clocks had said at least ten minutes on it, and

589
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:55.599
<v Speaker 5>then I just looked down then when we first started

590
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:57.839
<v Speaker 5>back again here and it was only in like two minutes.

591
00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:00.880
<v Speaker 5>So I'm just hoping to God that first ten minutes

592
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:02.839
<v Speaker 5>is just it's just saved somewhere.

593
00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:04.039
<v Speaker 6>I'm hoping to go.

594
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:08.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, it'll be a separate Yours will be

595
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:10.679
<v Speaker 2>a separate file like when you pull out, because I

596
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:14.119
<v Speaker 2>use riverside. When you pull out, yours will be in

597
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:16.519
<v Speaker 2>two separate files, but mine will be one.

598
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:19.400
<v Speaker 5>Right, fair enough, fair enough, Well let's go to know

599
00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:21.920
<v Speaker 5>that I'm still I'm still very much getting used to

600
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:22.400
<v Speaker 5>you as in this.

601
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, I love this one. This is my favorite,

602
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:26.440
<v Speaker 1>hands down.

603
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:27.840
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah.

604
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:31.199
<v Speaker 5>I mean, like I said, tools, Yeah, I've used zoom

605
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:34.320
<v Speaker 5>and stuff before, and I hear zoom zoom is awful.

606
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:35.760
<v Speaker 1>M hmm.

607
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:38.159
<v Speaker 6>I said, the stuff you can do on it is

608
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:40.000
<v Speaker 6>just crazy.

609
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

610
00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:44.039
<v Speaker 2>So I hope they get the live stuff kind of

611
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:47.199
<v Speaker 2>tweaked out and get it a little better. Yeah, and uh,

612
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:49.000
<v Speaker 2>then this this app will be perfect.

613
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:50.119
<v Speaker 1>If they can get it.

614
00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:52.079
<v Speaker 2>To where you can do a little bit more dynamic

615
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:54.920
<v Speaker 2>stuff with the live this thing will be amazing.

616
00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:56.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

617
00:34:56.679 --> 00:34:59.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because that that that's something well, that's something I

618
00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:00.440
<v Speaker 5>will I want to do at some point.

619
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:01.760
<v Speaker 6>Definitely is like live stuff.

620
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:05.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can do lives on here, but you just

621
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:07.800
<v Speaker 2>can't do all the stuff that you can do like

622
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:09.480
<v Speaker 2>with some of the other platforms.

623
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:10.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

624
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:13.800
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Well hopefully they'll get that started.

625
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:17.840
<v Speaker 5>Right Well, so, well, I'll put my little break bit

626
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:19.360
<v Speaker 5>in here so I know where to put them ads

627
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:22.119
<v Speaker 5>in and what have you. Right on that note, guys,

628
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:23.920
<v Speaker 5>then we're going to take a quick break, so we

629
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:25.360
<v Speaker 5>shall be back after this.

630
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:32.079
<v Speaker 6>Haven't I forgot this? Yeah?

631
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:34.199
<v Speaker 2>I actually was supposed to talk to a guy from

632
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:38.360
<v Speaker 2>your area because you're the UK right. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

633
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:40.760
<v Speaker 2>I was supposed to talk to Andrew Collins today man,

634
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:47.920
<v Speaker 2>and he uh uh he stiffed me. Man, No, I

635
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<v Speaker 2>didn't like but yeah, yeah, he's a pretty big name author.

636
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<v Speaker 2>He's been on History Channel and Guy at TV and

637
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<v Speaker 2>Rode all kinds of books. But yeah, uh he's uh.

638
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<v Speaker 2>I just talked to him to email just a couple

639
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<v Speaker 2>of days ago. He's like, yeah, I got you in

640
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<v Speaker 2>the calendar, man, no showed on me. I was like,

641
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<v Speaker 2>youang it, looking forward to it?

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<v Speaker 8>Mm hmm.

643
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<v Speaker 6>That's a bit ship that, yeah, mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 5>It happens, though, I suppose I mean, well, I mean

645
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<v Speaker 5>luckily it hasn't happened to us yet, but I'm surmising

646
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:24.199
<v Speaker 5>it will do at some point.

647
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<v Speaker 6>But one of them things you've got to move on, right.

648
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<v Speaker 5>Right then, guys, welcome back to the Spooky Shed Podcast.

649
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:34.719
<v Speaker 6>Of course, I'm still here with Justin.

650
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:37.599
<v Speaker 5>So Justin, shall we dive into your book, my friend,

651
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:40.679
<v Speaker 5>so the Epic of Esau.

652
00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:47.800
<v Speaker 6>I'm still saying that correct, Yes, sir, fire Bro, I'm

653
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:52.559
<v Speaker 6>getting there. I'm getting there. So how should we do

654
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<v Speaker 6>with this?

655
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:54.840
<v Speaker 5>So? Do you want to give us like a brief

656
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:57.159
<v Speaker 5>brief synopsis of what the book is about, and you

657
00:36:57.199 --> 00:36:59.760
<v Speaker 5>know where the inspiration come from when he started.

658
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:05.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, this was my first ever book. And like

659
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I said, you know, I was a factory rat nine

660
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<v Speaker 2>to five guy.

661
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.039
<v Speaker 1>I never never, never, never.

662
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Thought that I'd be writing a book ever, But here

663
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:16.719
<v Speaker 2>we are. But I designed it myself. I wrote it myself,

664
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:21.000
<v Speaker 2>no fancy editors and stuff. So you know, there's probably

665
00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:23.280
<v Speaker 2>plenty of typos in here. I found a few myself,

666
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:26.199
<v Speaker 2>even though I proof read the thing like three four times.

667
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:28.559
<v Speaker 2>But once you have it in your hand you start reading,

668
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:30.639
<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh man, how did I miss that? But

669
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:32.880
<v Speaker 2>if you can get past typos, if you're not a

670
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:35.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, like a grammar nazi man, the book's are

671
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:38.960
<v Speaker 2>great read and lots of good theological nuggets in here.

672
00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:42.199
<v Speaker 2>But I designed the cover and everything. So if you

673
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:45.440
<v Speaker 2>go on Amazon and look look for this big Harry

674
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:49.079
<v Speaker 2>yoke guy with a bow on his back, it says

675
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:52.000
<v Speaker 2>that the epic of he saw the Seed War or

676
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:56.039
<v Speaker 2>the birthright in Seed War. And for the listeners, it's

677
00:37:56.079 --> 00:38:00.599
<v Speaker 2>got the famous red bull of stew on a table

678
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:03.760
<v Speaker 2>with him with his back turned to it walking away.

679
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:09.800
<v Speaker 2>But the back like the synopsis or whatever, on the

680
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:12.400
<v Speaker 2>back of it. You know, it says Esau is one

681
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:15.920
<v Speaker 2>of the most enigmatic characters in the Bible. His birth

682
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:19.320
<v Speaker 2>alone is strange, to say the least. He came out red,

683
00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:21.920
<v Speaker 2>covered in hair from head to toe like a Harry Cloak.

684
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:24.639
<v Speaker 2>What if I told you there is much more to

685
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:27.320
<v Speaker 2>this guy's story, but has been lost to us throughout

686
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:30.639
<v Speaker 2>the ages that his story is scattered in pieces throughout

687
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:34.280
<v Speaker 2>other ancient extra biblical books. This is a story of

688
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.920
<v Speaker 2>what we would call today a bigfoot. This story goes

689
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:41.679
<v Speaker 2>back to the Garden of Eden, a serpent, supernatural garments,

690
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:46.280
<v Speaker 2>and a birthright. This tale reveals Esau's connection to the

691
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Nephelim giants and his genealogy's role in the end times.

692
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Welcome to an epic journey. This is the epic of Esau.

693
00:38:56.360 --> 00:39:00.199
<v Speaker 2>And honestly, this is a you know, it's about two

694
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:03.800
<v Speaker 2>hundred and seventy pages, so it's it's not too intimidating.

695
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:11.760
<v Speaker 2>It's fifteen chapters, and it all honestly started. This journey

696
00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:17.199
<v Speaker 2>of writing this book started with a caddy joke. Some

697
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:21.719
<v Speaker 2>people call what I'm about to talk about the Holy Spirit.

698
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:25.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, Christian's call it the Holy Spirit. The Greeks

699
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:29.599
<v Speaker 2>of ancient times, they called it the muse. You know,

700
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:33.760
<v Speaker 2>it's just this sudden burst of inspiration or something just

701
00:39:33.800 --> 00:39:35.119
<v Speaker 2>comes to you out of nowhere.

702
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:36.920
<v Speaker 1>That that's what happened.

703
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:40.760
<v Speaker 2>I was on my show with that that I do

704
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:44.400
<v Speaker 2>with my friends, the dig Bible podcast, and we had

705
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Trey Smith from God in a Nutshell on, and he

706
00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:50.400
<v Speaker 2>was one of the guys that read peeled me.

707
00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:52.199
<v Speaker 1>You know, that introduced me to all this stuff.

708
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:55.440
<v Speaker 2>So I was, you know, beside myself to have him

709
00:39:55.480 --> 00:39:56.320
<v Speaker 2>on the show.

710
00:39:57.000 --> 00:39:59.280
<v Speaker 1>But he made a comment and he was like, Hey,

711
00:39:59.320 --> 00:39:59.840
<v Speaker 1>you guys.

712
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Are from East Tennessee. That's Bigfoot country. Next time i'm

713
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:07.440
<v Speaker 2>down that way, I'll give you guys a call and

714
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:10.800
<v Speaker 2>we'll go bigfoot hunting. He said, maybe we'll record it

715
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:13.039
<v Speaker 2>and do a documentary. That would be fun.

716
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, man, come on down.

717
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:19.320
<v Speaker 2>And then just out of nowhere, man, Genesis twenty five

718
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:24.119
<v Speaker 2>twenty five popped into my head. And for those that's

719
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:27.199
<v Speaker 2>not familiar, that's the verse that talks about the birth

720
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:30.840
<v Speaker 2>of Esau and it says the first one came out red,

721
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:33.920
<v Speaker 2>covered in hair from head to toe like a Harry Cloak.

722
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:40.280
<v Speaker 2>And I said, well, tray, what about Esau? I said,

723
00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:43.480
<v Speaker 2>do you think maybe he would have been technically like

724
00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:47.639
<v Speaker 2>the first documented bigfoot or like the first bigfoot seed?

725
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:53.000
<v Speaker 2>And he kind of chuckled and he said, I don't know.

726
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:55.559
<v Speaker 2>He said, you may be onto something. He said he

727
00:40:55.679 --> 00:41:00.039
<v Speaker 2>was definitely a har you do, that's for sure. And

728
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:01.400
<v Speaker 2>then I got to thinking about it, and I was like,

729
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:03.679
<v Speaker 2>I've read that and heard that story my whole life,

730
00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:06.719
<v Speaker 2>and like I had said that earlier at the beginning

731
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:10.199
<v Speaker 2>of the show, I had asked about that because I

732
00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:12.599
<v Speaker 2>thought it was strange as a kid the first time

733
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:15.280
<v Speaker 2>i'd heard it. But I was just told, oh, you

734
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:18.880
<v Speaker 2>know your uncle. Everybody's got that Harry backed uncle, that's

735
00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:21.320
<v Speaker 2>what that is. Or he just had a good beard,

736
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:24.360
<v Speaker 2>you know. That was kind of hyperbole or exaggeration. He

737
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:27.480
<v Speaker 2>wasn't literally covered in hair from head to toe.

738
00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:29.079
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

739
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:31.400
<v Speaker 2>But then I was like, no, man, I mean that's

740
00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:34.599
<v Speaker 2>what the Bible says. I mean, if you take it

741
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:37.920
<v Speaker 2>for what it says, that's what it says. And I

742
00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:40.800
<v Speaker 2>just kind of let it go. And honestly, it was

743
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:43.800
<v Speaker 2>like the next week I had Gary Wayne on the

744
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:48.159
<v Speaker 2>show and we were talking about the epic of Gilgamesh,

745
00:41:48.760 --> 00:41:50.280
<v Speaker 2>but I had him. It was on my other show,

746
00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:56.119
<v Speaker 2>The Prometheus Lens, and I was reading through it, and

747
00:41:56.199 --> 00:41:58.159
<v Speaker 2>this was one of those stories that I was familiar with,

748
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:00.440
<v Speaker 2>but I'd never sit down and just actually read.

749
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:01.719
<v Speaker 1>The story all the way through.

750
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:04.079
<v Speaker 2>So I was sitting and reading it all the way through,

751
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:09.320
<v Speaker 2>and I bump into this guy named Inky Doo, and

752
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:11.719
<v Speaker 2>just like Esau, he was covered in hair from head

753
00:42:11.719 --> 00:42:14.000
<v Speaker 2>to toe, and he was a mighty hunter of the field,

754
00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:17.559
<v Speaker 2>just like Esau. And I was like, dude, here's another

755
00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:20.559
<v Speaker 2>one of these Harry dudes. It sounds like a sasquatch,

756
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:24.920
<v Speaker 2>and he was a wild man of the field, a

757
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:28.920
<v Speaker 2>mighty hunter, just like Esau. And I was like, I

758
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:30.280
<v Speaker 2>keep bumping into these guys.

759
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:32.000
<v Speaker 1>And then it was.

760
00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Literally like the next week or maybe the week after that,

761
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:39.119
<v Speaker 2>I had another show that had a guest on and

762
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:42.039
<v Speaker 2>we were going through the Book of Jasher and that's

763
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:47.119
<v Speaker 2>an extra biblical book that's mentioned in the Old Testament

764
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:51.920
<v Speaker 2>two or three times, and in there got your reading,

765
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:59.280
<v Speaker 2>it says that Nimrod had built up jealousy and contentment

766
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:06.039
<v Speaker 2>against Esau all of his days, and both of them

767
00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:10.719
<v Speaker 2>were known as the mighty Hunter. So it was kind

768
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:13.199
<v Speaker 2>of like a Highlanders scenario, you know that there can

769
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:16.800
<v Speaker 2>only be one baby. Yeah, And it says that Nimrod

770
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:20.079
<v Speaker 2>goes out with a group of men and goes to

771
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:24.559
<v Speaker 2>hunt this hiiry quote unquote man down to kill him

772
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:27.880
<v Speaker 2>like a beast, hunting him down like a beast. And

773
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:32.039
<v Speaker 2>it says that that Nimrod, you know, and we hear

774
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:36.199
<v Speaker 2>in the Bible that Nimrod was described as a giant,

775
00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:44.840
<v Speaker 2>and it says in Genesis that he wasn't born a

776
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:50.000
<v Speaker 2>gibble reim, but he became a gibblerim, And that word

777
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:53.079
<v Speaker 2>gibriim is Hebrew, and that's the same word used to

778
00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:56.920
<v Speaker 2>describe the Nephelum giants in the Old Testament. And so

779
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:00.880
<v Speaker 2>it says that Nimrod and two of him is Giborim,

780
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:04.280
<v Speaker 2>go out after Esau, and that Esau was out in

781
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:09.280
<v Speaker 2>the field and sees them, but he hides hisself and

782
00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:14.199
<v Speaker 2>that he jumps out by surprise and he cuts off

783
00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Nimrod's head with the sword and then fights the other

784
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:22.679
<v Speaker 2>two Gibareim and kills them. So he kills, you know,

785
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:27.480
<v Speaker 2>not one, not two, but three giants single handedly in combat.

786
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:32.639
<v Speaker 2>And it says that he takes the time to steal

787
00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:37.639
<v Speaker 2>Nimrod's garments, and it says that these garments were the

788
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:42.800
<v Speaker 2>reason that Nimrod was able to prevail over all the

789
00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:48.239
<v Speaker 2>nations and conquer all the lands, and that he rushes

790
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:51.760
<v Speaker 2>back home, hides the garments, and then he goes into

791
00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:55.400
<v Speaker 2>his brother's tent and there his brother Jacob is preparing

792
00:44:55.599 --> 00:45:01.079
<v Speaker 2>the red lentineal snow. And so I was like, man,

793
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:04.599
<v Speaker 2>that answers a lot of questions that Genesis kind of

794
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:08.320
<v Speaker 2>just left open ended, because the Book of Genesis that's

795
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:11.639
<v Speaker 2>in our Bible, when you get to that trading of

796
00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:15.519
<v Speaker 2>the birthright, all it says is that, you know, one

797
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:19.559
<v Speaker 2>day he saw the mighty Hunter comes in from the

798
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:25.039
<v Speaker 2>field exhausted, and that his brother was preparing stew, and

799
00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:28.559
<v Speaker 2>that he asks his brother for some of the stew,

800
00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:31.360
<v Speaker 2>and Jacob says, yeah, sure, you can have some of

801
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:35.400
<v Speaker 2>the stew, but trade me your birthright. And he says,

802
00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:38.440
<v Speaker 2>what use is a birthright to me when I'm dead?

803
00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Take it, eats the stew, trades his birthright and leaves,

804
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:46.199
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, you know, even as a kid,

805
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:48.079
<v Speaker 2>I was like, that makes absolutely no sense to me,

806
00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:52.199
<v Speaker 2>because the birth right is basically the inheritance. You know,

807
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:55.599
<v Speaker 2>you're the eldest son. You were gonna get the lands,

808
00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:58.440
<v Speaker 2>you were gonna get all the animals and the money.

809
00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Everything was coming to you. And you're supposed to be

810
00:46:03.800 --> 00:46:07.440
<v Speaker 2>the mighty hunter and you are coming in from the

811
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:11.280
<v Speaker 2>field starving that you know what I mean? That from

812
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:13.639
<v Speaker 2>number one, that don't make any sense whatsoever if you're

813
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:17.239
<v Speaker 2>the mighty hunter. I mean, you could have had lion

814
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:21.480
<v Speaker 2>steak for dinner. You wouldn't have been starving. And then

815
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:27.880
<v Speaker 2>number two, you're not going to trade your inheritance, you know,

816
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:31.599
<v Speaker 2>if you're Donald Trump's son about to inherit billions of

817
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:34.599
<v Speaker 2>dollars in the family business to your younger brother for

818
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:38.239
<v Speaker 2>a bag of Dorito's man. But when you tie in

819
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:41.079
<v Speaker 2>this book of joshure Man, that makes a lot more sense.

820
00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:45.400
<v Speaker 2>That he just fought and killed the king, so he's

821
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:49.960
<v Speaker 2>afraid for his life. He's on the run and killed

822
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:54.639
<v Speaker 2>three giants. So in this fight you can safely assume

823
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:58.760
<v Speaker 2>that he sustained some life threatening injuries and he was

824
00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:01.159
<v Speaker 2>afraid he was on the run from killing the king,

825
00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:05.199
<v Speaker 2>probably you know, walking in with slashes on his gut

826
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:08.960
<v Speaker 2>and stab wounds and bleeding out and rushed into his

827
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:12.480
<v Speaker 2>brother's tent and looking over his shoulder, thinking the King's

828
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:16.199
<v Speaker 2>the King's army was after him, and he was probably,

829
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:18.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, begging his brother to.

830
00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:19.119
<v Speaker 1>Save his life.

831
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:22.920
<v Speaker 2>So the soup, you know this, you know, the sustenance,

832
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:26.079
<v Speaker 2>the life saving thing, it was probably like a like

833
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:30.760
<v Speaker 2>an allegorical thing, you know for basically sew me up,

834
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:38.039
<v Speaker 2>bandage me, stop the bleeding, give me medicine, give me nourishment,

835
00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:41.119
<v Speaker 2>hide me. And that makes a lot more sense to

836
00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:43.800
<v Speaker 2>why he said, you know what us is a birthright

837
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:44.760
<v Speaker 2>to me when I'm dead.

838
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:45.239
<v Speaker 7>Take it.

839
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:48.480
<v Speaker 2>And even Jacob's urgency in that story, if you go

840
00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:50.880
<v Speaker 2>back and you read that, Jacob ain't just willy nilly.

841
00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:57.519
<v Speaker 2>Jacob's like, no, promise me that you will do this thing. No, no, no,

842
00:47:57.679 --> 00:48:01.480
<v Speaker 2>promise me, now promise me now. Oh So it's like

843
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:05.119
<v Speaker 2>there's a whole lot of urgency in there that we

844
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:08.840
<v Speaker 2>don't pick up on. So just finding this stuff, man,

845
00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:12.360
<v Speaker 2>I was like, if I'm finding this stuff just on accident,

846
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:18.199
<v Speaker 2>if I actually look with intention, I'm sure I'm going

847
00:48:18.280 --> 00:48:21.519
<v Speaker 2>to find some a lot of missing pieces to this guy.

848
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:26.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, definitely, I think I think, well, like I said,

849
00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:30.320
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you've already proved that if you go looking

850
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:33.920
<v Speaker 5>for answers, will say, you're going to find them, because

851
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:37.000
<v Speaker 5>they said, there's just from what you've told me that

852
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:38.920
<v Speaker 5>there's a lot of things that don't make sense.

853
00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:44.559
<v Speaker 1>M definitely very and very odd.

854
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:51.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because honestly, if you think about it, the Bible,

855
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:55.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, was written thousands of years ago. They were

856
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:59.480
<v Speaker 2>writing it to the people of that time. They wasn't

857
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:04.119
<v Speaker 2>thinking of us two three thousand years later reading this

858
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:08.719
<v Speaker 2>book and us not understanding you know, the culture and

859
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:10.920
<v Speaker 2>the history and the things that were going on of

860
00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:11.960
<v Speaker 2>that time and the.

861
00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Lingo.

862
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:17.480
<v Speaker 2>How we have words and slangs and coins of phrases

863
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:22.599
<v Speaker 2>today that thousands of years later people are not going

864
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:25.880
<v Speaker 2>to know where I understand the context of it. So

865
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:29.400
<v Speaker 2>they wasn't that forward thinking. And also they didn't have

866
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:33.400
<v Speaker 2>a Bible back then. They had all these scrolls that

867
00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:39.760
<v Speaker 2>were circulating. They had the Book of Jashure, they had Enoch, Jubileese,

868
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:43.920
<v Speaker 2>just all these different scrolls, and they also had oral traditions,

869
00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:47.599
<v Speaker 2>stories that were passed throughout the generations. That was you know,

870
00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:50.960
<v Speaker 2>mandatory for every family to know it and tell to

871
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:57.320
<v Speaker 2>their children. So the writers of the Book of Genesis

872
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:02.639
<v Speaker 2>was just like, you know, we don't need to theoretically

873
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:06.400
<v Speaker 2>beat a dead horse here. There's already the Book of Jasher.

874
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:10.639
<v Speaker 2>There's already you know, this scroll, this scroll circulating. There's

875
00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:18.280
<v Speaker 2>already this oral tradition and story. Everybody knows about Nimrod

876
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:22.599
<v Speaker 2>and Esau and all this stuff. I don't have to

877
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:27.320
<v Speaker 2>put that in here. Everybody knows that already. And then

878
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:30.679
<v Speaker 2>same thing with Genesis six. When you get the Genesis six,

879
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:33.239
<v Speaker 2>you get this little blurb you know, there were giants

880
00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:36.440
<v Speaker 2>on the earth in those days, and also afterward, boom

881
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:39.480
<v Speaker 2>and it's done. And us today is like, whoa man,

882
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:43.000
<v Speaker 2>that seems pretty weird. I want to know more about that.

883
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:45.679
<v Speaker 2>Give me some more context. Same thing, it's like, we

884
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:48.559
<v Speaker 2>got the Book of Enoch. Everybody knows about the giants,

885
00:50:48.559 --> 00:50:51.719
<v Speaker 2>how the angels came down, bred with men and gave

886
00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:52.599
<v Speaker 2>them knowledge.

887
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:57.280
<v Speaker 1>We don't need to, you know, rehash that. Everybody knows. No,

888
00:50:57.400 --> 00:50:57.960
<v Speaker 1>we didn't.

889
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:03.639
<v Speaker 2>And he comes to Catholic Church and puts together this Bible,

890
00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:07.760
<v Speaker 2>and some of those scrolls and stories didn't make it

891
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:10.719
<v Speaker 2>into it. So when we read the stuff that did

892
00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:13.840
<v Speaker 2>make it in there, they're alluding to and talking about

893
00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:20.320
<v Speaker 2>things very vaguely that we don't know because those other

894
00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:22.639
<v Speaker 2>scrolls are the missing pieces to that person.

895
00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:30.480
<v Speaker 5>It's I always find it really interesting, like I said,

896
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:33.360
<v Speaker 5>with religious texts and stuff, because they're so old.

897
00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:35.840
<v Speaker 6>I almost like to.

898
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:41.039
<v Speaker 5>Almost almost play Devil's advocate, and like I wonder how

899
00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:45.079
<v Speaker 5>much has been lost and how much of it that

900
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:48.239
<v Speaker 5>remains is almost lost in translation, if you know what

901
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:50.199
<v Speaker 5>I mean, Like I have often wonder, like you know,

902
00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:52.039
<v Speaker 5>is that is that?

903
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:54.000
<v Speaker 6>What is that? What they we're trying to say?

904
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:56.119
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I can't I can't think of an example

905
00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:57.559
<v Speaker 5>off the top of my head because I'm not very

906
00:51:57.559 --> 00:52:00.760
<v Speaker 5>cleared up with religious text I must admit it's something

907
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:04.480
<v Speaker 5>that always fascinates me. And it's a lot of conversations

908
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:06.719
<v Speaker 5>with people at work because I work with quite a

909
00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:10.519
<v Speaker 5>few people who are who are religious, and because well

910
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:15.320
<v Speaker 5>I'm not if that's not obvious, and it always really

911
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:19.360
<v Speaker 5>interests me just how much of it is the same

912
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:21.960
<v Speaker 5>as how much how much how much it's changed over

913
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:26.360
<v Speaker 5>like you said, those thousands of years obviously, because like

914
00:52:26.360 --> 00:52:28.719
<v Speaker 5>I say, obviously, when when it was first written, it

915
00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:32.199
<v Speaker 5>wouldn't have been in English or whatever. Languages as we

916
00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:34.559
<v Speaker 5>know today, it could be in any do you know

917
00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:35.119
<v Speaker 5>what I'm saying.

918
00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:39.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And see that's why it's too It's important, like

919
00:52:39.800 --> 00:52:43.599
<v Speaker 2>because with all the advancements we got today, you don't

920
00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:45.920
<v Speaker 2>have to know all these other languages to look at

921
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:51.920
<v Speaker 2>the originals, you know, like logos Bible software. I love

922
00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:54.480
<v Speaker 2>that thing. If any of your listeners, you know, are

923
00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Christians and they like looking at the Bible and stuff

924
00:52:57.000 --> 00:52:59.519
<v Speaker 2>like that, go get that app. You can get it

925
00:52:59.559 --> 00:53:02.679
<v Speaker 2>on your phone, on your computer, your tablet, whatever.

926
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:03.679
<v Speaker 1>It's free.

927
00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:06.679
<v Speaker 2>But they got book packages and stuff you can buy

928
00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:10.480
<v Speaker 2>in there, of course, but they have innerlinears and all

929
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:12.960
<v Speaker 2>this stuff. So but basically, like what an inner linear

930
00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:17.639
<v Speaker 2>is is the Old Testament, you know, was written in Hebrew.

931
00:53:18.519 --> 00:53:21.880
<v Speaker 2>So they'll have the Hebrew all written out, and then

932
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:26.199
<v Speaker 2>underneath it they'll have the English translation yea. But then

933
00:53:26.280 --> 00:53:28.599
<v Speaker 2>you can go and you can highlight that word in

934
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:32.559
<v Speaker 2>Hebrew and then you can do like word searches and

935
00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:36.320
<v Speaker 2>show every time that word is used in the text

936
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:39.880
<v Speaker 2>and how many times it was translated to English as

937
00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:42.800
<v Speaker 2>this word and because you know, you could have one

938
00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Hebrew word translated into four or five different English words, right,

939
00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:50.440
<v Speaker 2>so you can look at the comparisons and say, Okay,

940
00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:56.360
<v Speaker 2>this one Hebrew word has four English translations, so you

941
00:53:56.400 --> 00:53:59.519
<v Speaker 2>can insert and figure out the context and kind of

942
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:02.679
<v Speaker 2>compare and do that, which is amazing.

943
00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:04.519
<v Speaker 1>And look at that.

944
00:54:04.599 --> 00:54:06.400
<v Speaker 2>And you can do the same thing with the New

945
00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Testament because it was written in Greek, so you can

946
00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:13.920
<v Speaker 2>look at the Greek side by side with the English.

947
00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:16.159
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, man, but going through those and just finding

948
00:54:16.199 --> 00:54:21.519
<v Speaker 2>those different books, and what I'd done was like you said,

949
00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:25.280
<v Speaker 2>when you read that, some of those stories just sound

950
00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:29.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of crazy and outlandish, and when you try to

951
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:31.920
<v Speaker 2>put them beside like the Bible. I tried to use

952
00:54:31.960 --> 00:54:36.079
<v Speaker 2>the Bible as like the like the goide stone or anchor.

953
00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:39.440
<v Speaker 2>So it's like this, if this scroll or text was

954
00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:41.840
<v Speaker 2>saying this, this and this about this event and it's

955
00:54:41.880 --> 00:54:44.400
<v Speaker 2>in the Bible, I would compare.

956
00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:45.000
<v Speaker 1>It to it.

957
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:47.639
<v Speaker 2>And if it contradicted it or it was totally different,

958
00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:50.159
<v Speaker 2>then I was like, Okay, I'm not going with that.

959
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:54.000
<v Speaker 2>But if it like run parallel with it but added

960
00:54:54.320 --> 00:54:59.760
<v Speaker 2>extra context or through in missing pieces, I ran with it.

961
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:05.480
<v Speaker 2>And so when I went through all those different extra

962
00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:08.880
<v Speaker 2>biblical books and things like that, I did man as

963
00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:11.079
<v Speaker 2>I went through and separated, you know, the meat from

964
00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:19.280
<v Speaker 2>the bone. I put together a complete, flowing narrative of

965
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:24.639
<v Speaker 2>this guy named Esau that stitches perfectly into the Biblical

966
00:55:24.719 --> 00:55:30.559
<v Speaker 2>narrative and answers so many ambiguous things. That's in the

967
00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:35.079
<v Speaker 2>sixty six book Cannon. It was amazing. Then I discovered

968
00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:41.679
<v Speaker 2>Lewis Ginsburg. He wrote a seven book series called Legends

969
00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:46.800
<v Speaker 2>of the Jews, and he went through and gathered all

970
00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:52.480
<v Speaker 2>their oral traditions and all their legends and stuff involving

971
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:56.199
<v Speaker 2>the people of the Bible and wrote them all down.

972
00:55:57.519 --> 00:56:02.000
<v Speaker 2>So it was really cool to take those and add

973
00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:05.760
<v Speaker 2>those in uh to the narrative. And I even talk

974
00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:09.599
<v Speaker 2>about in the book. I'm like, you know, this, this

975
00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:14.840
<v Speaker 2>was their legends and their lore doesn't necessarily make it factual,

976
00:56:15.639 --> 00:56:18.880
<v Speaker 2>but hey, this is what they believed, and this is

977
00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:23.519
<v Speaker 2>what the stories and word of mouth that was traveling

978
00:56:23.559 --> 00:56:26.920
<v Speaker 2>around at that time. And so maybe you can see

979
00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:31.039
<v Speaker 2>why you find in this scroll or in the Book

980
00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:33.519
<v Speaker 2>of Genesis or whatever that it said x y Z,

981
00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:37.719
<v Speaker 2>because this was a legend or a lore that was

982
00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:41.199
<v Speaker 2>traveling around at that time. So that's why it kind of,

983
00:56:41.320 --> 00:56:44.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, influenced their thoughts and how they thought about

984
00:56:44.320 --> 00:56:46.679
<v Speaker 2>things and also influenced their writing.

985
00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:53.480
<v Speaker 5>Again, it's just it's what you're telling me. No, was

986
00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:57.079
<v Speaker 5>just really really interesting. And the first thing I'm thinking

987
00:56:57.159 --> 00:57:00.760
<v Speaker 5>this here is how long is how how long has

988
00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:02.679
<v Speaker 5>it took you to do this? To write the book

989
00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:05.920
<v Speaker 5>and do all the research? Right, because you said obviously

990
00:57:06.239 --> 00:57:08.199
<v Speaker 5>you've mentioned earlier, you know you work a full time

991
00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:10.920
<v Speaker 5>job as well. How have you how have you found

992
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:13.159
<v Speaker 5>the time to do this? Like to me, this this

993
00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:15.400
<v Speaker 5>sounds like years of worth of research.

994
00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:21.880
<v Speaker 2>M h yeah, it took two years. M yeah, two years.

995
00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:25.360
<v Speaker 2>But at the same time it was where I got

996
00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:29.519
<v Speaker 2>two podcasts too. Yeah, And it's kind of are all

997
00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:32.360
<v Speaker 2>around the same subject matter. So it was like in

998
00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:35.199
<v Speaker 2>my free time that I had to read and stuff

999
00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:38.599
<v Speaker 2>and study. I was really deep diving into this one subject.

1000
00:57:39.239 --> 00:57:41.760
<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, a lot of the subjects

1001
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:44.360
<v Speaker 2>that I was talking about on the podcasts and shows

1002
00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:49.280
<v Speaker 2>was kind of interweaving and around, you know, this same

1003
00:57:49.559 --> 00:57:52.639
<v Speaker 2>topic or subject, so I kind of got to like

1004
00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:55.840
<v Speaker 2>cross pollinate a lot. So like I'd have a guest

1005
00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:59.840
<v Speaker 2>on and they wrote a book on the Nephlum giants,

1006
00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:02.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, I talked to them. I kind of got

1007
00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:03.679
<v Speaker 2>to pick their brain, you know, like, hey, what do

1008
00:58:03.719 --> 00:58:05.599
<v Speaker 2>you think about this or that? You know what what

1009
00:58:05.679 --> 00:58:09.239
<v Speaker 2>book or you know, person, would you recommend for me

1010
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:12.280
<v Speaker 2>to find this or that? And you know, pick their

1011
00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:15.559
<v Speaker 2>brain and so it was pretty cool. So I kind

1012
00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:18.679
<v Speaker 2>of had like some some good little help and cheats

1013
00:58:18.719 --> 00:58:21.840
<v Speaker 2>along the way.

1014
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:24.719
<v Speaker 5>But that's that's just I mean, that's that's the beauty

1015
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:27.960
<v Speaker 5>of podcasting. I think, you know, like just doing your

1016
00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:31.000
<v Speaker 5>podcasters helped you do research for your own book.

1017
00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:33.239
<v Speaker 6>It's like that's the best part about it, I think.

1018
00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:37.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm all about two first, mm hmm.

1019
00:58:38.719 --> 00:58:43.159
<v Speaker 5>You mentioned they're the Netflin giants. I've heard a lot

1020
00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:46.320
<v Speaker 5>about them. I don't know, a great deal. It's something

1021
00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:50.639
<v Speaker 5>that I wanted to look into a bit more. Can

1022
00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:53.639
<v Speaker 5>you tell us a bit about them?

1023
00:58:53.840 --> 00:58:54.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1024
00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Man, the Nephlom giants. That is one of those things,

1025
00:58:58.239 --> 00:59:05.760
<v Speaker 2>uh that I truly don't think is legend or lord.

1026
00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I think it is fact. When you find the same

1027
00:59:11.559 --> 00:59:18.079
<v Speaker 2>story throughout every single culture of the world, every single religion,

1028
00:59:18.199 --> 00:59:22.440
<v Speaker 2>every single people group, every single time frame of the

1029
00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:27.599
<v Speaker 2>world has the same exact story. It's just maybe a

1030
00:59:27.679 --> 00:59:31.760
<v Speaker 2>little different caveats to it. That tells me that there's

1031
00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:35.119
<v Speaker 2>that there's something to it. You know, I'm not a

1032
00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:41.000
<v Speaker 2>coincidence theorist. So you know, when you take the biblical narrative,

1033
00:59:42.280 --> 00:59:46.079
<v Speaker 2>when you get the Genesis six, it says that the

1034
00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:52.239
<v Speaker 2>sons of God in Hebrew, that's you know, benaha Elohem.

1035
00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:56.719
<v Speaker 2>Every time that that phrase is used, it's talking about divine,

1036
00:59:56.920 --> 01:00:01.079
<v Speaker 2>heavenly beings. And it says that the sons of God

1037
01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:06.039
<v Speaker 2>came down and bred with the daughters of men and

1038
01:00:06.119 --> 01:00:07.960
<v Speaker 2>created nephlum giants.

1039
01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:10.559
<v Speaker 1>And it says, you know that the.

1040
01:00:10.840 --> 01:00:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Giants were on the earth in those days before and

1041
01:00:14.519 --> 01:00:19.039
<v Speaker 2>after talking about the flood, and it says these were

1042
01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:23.840
<v Speaker 2>the mighty men of old, the men of renown. And

1043
01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:28.440
<v Speaker 2>when you get into the book of Enoch, it says

1044
01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:35.480
<v Speaker 2>that these angels, these fallen angels, they some texts called

1045
01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:40.239
<v Speaker 2>them the watchers. They came down and lusted after the

1046
01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:44.440
<v Speaker 2>women and took wives and bred with them, and the

1047
01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:48.159
<v Speaker 2>children were the nephilum. But on top of that, they

1048
01:00:49.159 --> 01:00:54.960
<v Speaker 2>gave humanity like forbidden knowledge, and they taught them the

1049
01:00:55.079 --> 01:01:02.960
<v Speaker 2>art of metalworking, witchcraft, cutting of enchantments, astrology, reading of

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01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:07.280
<v Speaker 2>the stars. That there's a whole list of things, even

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<v Speaker 2>down to abortion, the art of war, all these things

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<v Speaker 2>that corrupted humanity, and it says that it corrupted them

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<v Speaker 2>so bad that that's why God had to bring the flood,

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<v Speaker 2>and it said that done it so bad, and that

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<v Speaker 2>the DNA pool was corrupted so bad that Noah and

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<v Speaker 2>his family were the only pure bred humans left. And

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<v Speaker 2>you don't get that unless you get into the original languages.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like growing up in church, I was just

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<v Speaker 2>told that, oh, well, the sons of God were the

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<v Speaker 2>righteous line of Seth, that these were the good, morally

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01:01:57.159 --> 01:02:06.519
<v Speaker 2>pure line of people intermixed with the ungodly wicked dollars

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01:02:06.760 --> 01:02:11.719
<v Speaker 2>of Cain. And when they got together, they made spiritually

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01:02:12.559 --> 01:02:18.440
<v Speaker 2>wicked people, and those spiritually wicked people became the kings

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<v Speaker 2>and the rulers of the world, and they corrupted the earth.

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<v Speaker 2>That they were the Nephilum. But when you read about

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<v Speaker 2>the Nephilum, you know they were giants. They you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some of them were described in certain books that they were,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, twenty thirty foot, they were huge, and it

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<v Speaker 2>said that they were cannibals. They ate, they ate human

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<v Speaker 2>flesh and just all the stuff they did. So it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, one of my buddies made a comment that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuck with me. He said, kissing cousins don't

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<v Speaker 2>make thirty footers man, and that that just kind of

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01:02:53.559 --> 01:02:58.360
<v Speaker 2>stuck with me. So and then when you go down

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<v Speaker 2>to that thing about no of the you know, being

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01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:04.719
<v Speaker 2>the own only you know, pure genealogy humans left, you

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<v Speaker 2>go to the Hebrew because where it says that Noah

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01:03:08.119 --> 01:03:11.119
<v Speaker 2>was the only righteous man left, it wasn't talking about

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01:03:11.719 --> 01:03:16.239
<v Speaker 2>he was the only you know, sinless man. That word

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<v Speaker 2>righteous in Hebrew is to mim and to mem is

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<v Speaker 2>the same word that is used to describe the purity

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01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:31.519
<v Speaker 2>of the blood of the sacrificial animals. So the animals

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<v Speaker 2>that were sacrificed in the Old Testament, they had to

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<v Speaker 2>be to mim, the blood had to be to Meme

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<v Speaker 2>pure right. And so when it was using that terminology

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01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:50.639
<v Speaker 2>with Noah, it was associating that word with the sacrificial

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01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:54.800
<v Speaker 2>animals and that system. So it was saying that, you know,

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01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:58.679
<v Speaker 2>he was the only ones you know, that his bloodline

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01:03:59.079 --> 01:04:03.480
<v Speaker 2>was pure because the Nephilum, the fallen angels, had tainted

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01:04:04.159 --> 01:04:07.920
<v Speaker 2>the entire world so bad, that's why the flood had

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01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:12.440
<v Speaker 2>to come. It was like a great reset, and when

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01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:15.559
<v Speaker 2>you go and you look into the other cultures, you

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01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:21.280
<v Speaker 2>find it everywhere. Every single culture throughout the world all has.

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01:04:20.679 --> 01:04:22.920
<v Speaker 1>A flood story.

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<v Speaker 2>And like when you go to the Greeks, what does

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01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:30.760
<v Speaker 2>the Greeks talk about. They talk about a divine council.

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<v Speaker 2>You got Zeus and Poseidon and all this. Well, what

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01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:40.400
<v Speaker 2>happens is that their fathers were the original gods. They

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01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:50.639
<v Speaker 2>rebelled against them and overthrew them and cast them into Tartarus. Right, Well,

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01:04:50.760 --> 01:05:01.159
<v Speaker 2>the Bible says that God's sons tried to rebel, it failed,

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01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:07.400
<v Speaker 2>and he cast them into Tartarus. And so the ones

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01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:11.159
<v Speaker 2>that rebelled and will come down to Earth. Of course,

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01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:13.559
<v Speaker 2>they're the ones that are pretending to be gods and

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01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:19.199
<v Speaker 2>telling all of humanity that they were gods and given

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01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:24.079
<v Speaker 2>all this technology and we're superior, and were worshiped as gods.

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01:05:24.440 --> 01:05:25.519
<v Speaker 1>And they told them.

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01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:30.920
<v Speaker 2>This perverted story, and they're memorialized as Zeus and Poseidon

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01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:33.880
<v Speaker 2>and all these other guys, and so that's why you

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01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:37.679
<v Speaker 2>get this perverted version. But even in the Greek story,

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01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:41.679
<v Speaker 2>these gods like Zeus, Poseidon and all these others, what

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01:05:41.800 --> 01:05:44.880
<v Speaker 2>do they do. They come down and they have sex

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01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:48.960
<v Speaker 2>with human women, and what do they make. They make

1113
01:05:49.039 --> 01:05:56.000
<v Speaker 2>demi gods like Hercules, Perseus, all these guys that have

1114
01:05:56.079 --> 01:06:03.079
<v Speaker 2>superhuman strength and abilities. These are the Phalom. It's confirming

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01:06:03.159 --> 01:06:06.840
<v Speaker 2>that the biblical narrative, and no matter where you go,

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01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:09.440
<v Speaker 2>you have the same story. It's just different names and

1117
01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:13.039
<v Speaker 2>caveats to it. In North America, the Indians talk about

1118
01:06:13.079 --> 01:06:18.239
<v Speaker 2>the sky people. The sky people come down, stole their

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01:06:18.280 --> 01:06:21.719
<v Speaker 2>women and bred with them and made these hybridized creatures

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<v Speaker 2>and these giants, and they terrorized the land, and they

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01:06:27.440 --> 01:06:30.320
<v Speaker 2>turned cannibal and ravaged the land and was eating the people.

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01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:35.480
<v Speaker 2>That so and that all the people had to band

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01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:39.639
<v Speaker 2>together and wipe out these giants and run them out.

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01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Arracocia down in South America says that his first in

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01:06:47.360 --> 01:06:52.159
<v Speaker 2>his first creation, that he created giants and the same

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01:06:52.199 --> 01:06:55.400
<v Speaker 2>thing that they ravaged the land and were so wicked

1127
01:06:55.639 --> 01:06:57.760
<v Speaker 2>and terrorized the earth that he had to bring a

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01:06:57.800 --> 01:07:02.079
<v Speaker 2>great flood and wipe them out and start over again. So,

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01:07:02.159 --> 01:07:05.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you have it, just repeat it over and

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01:07:05.079 --> 01:07:10.760
<v Speaker 2>over again. And they've even found that they're bones and

1131
01:07:10.760 --> 01:07:14.480
<v Speaker 2>their remnants, you know, the great Smithsonian cover up.

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01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:16.000
<v Speaker 1>If you go looking.

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01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:19.079
<v Speaker 2>Online, you can find all kinds of pictures and news

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01:07:19.159 --> 01:07:21.719
<v Speaker 2>articles back in the you know, like in the eighteen

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01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:27.679
<v Speaker 2>hundreds and stuff of sixteen eighteen twenty foot human skeletons found.

1136
01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:31.840
<v Speaker 2>It's all over the place, but the bones always disappear.

1137
01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:38.119
<v Speaker 2>The Smithsonian shows up and the bones disappear every time.

1138
01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:41.679
<v Speaker 2>And then you find these elongated skulls.

1139
01:07:41.280 --> 01:07:43.159
<v Speaker 1>All over the world.

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01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:48.559
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a that's another nephilum. But it's kind

1141
01:07:48.559 --> 01:07:51.760
<v Speaker 2>of like the theory of entropy. You know, nothing gets

1142
01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:55.440
<v Speaker 2>better over time, it gets weaker. So it's like the

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01:07:55.480 --> 01:07:59.920
<v Speaker 2>more that these nephylum bred with humanity and the long

1144
01:08:00.159 --> 01:08:02.800
<v Speaker 2>they went, that DNA strand got weaker and weaker, so

1145
01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:05.840
<v Speaker 2>they got shorter and shorter, and it just kind of

1146
01:08:05.880 --> 01:08:10.039
<v Speaker 2>pops up in different variations. And like Jubilee and Enoch,

1147
01:08:10.119 --> 01:08:13.079
<v Speaker 2>it talks about they not only did that, but they

1148
01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:16.680
<v Speaker 2>sinned against the beasts of the field and the birds

1149
01:08:16.720 --> 01:08:20.840
<v Speaker 2>of the air. So it's like they were, you know,

1150
01:08:21.399 --> 01:08:26.880
<v Speaker 2>modifying genetically like we're doing today with with with science cloning.

1151
01:08:27.079 --> 01:08:31.199
<v Speaker 2>And that's why you get all these centaurs and these

1152
01:08:31.279 --> 01:08:38.119
<v Speaker 2>crazy hybrid cryptid beasts drone on cave art walls and

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01:08:38.159 --> 01:08:40.800
<v Speaker 2>in the mythologies and all this stuff, because that's what

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01:08:40.880 --> 01:08:44.000
<v Speaker 2>these Nephilim giants and fallen angels were doing.

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01:08:46.439 --> 01:08:50.119
<v Speaker 5>There's a there's an interesting thing there because as soon

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01:08:50.159 --> 01:08:51.239
<v Speaker 5>as you mentioned.

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01:08:50.920 --> 01:08:55.760
<v Speaker 6>There about how you believe that it's fact, and I.

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01:08:55.640 --> 01:08:58.640
<v Speaker 5>Think there's definitely something to it, how much I'm not,

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01:08:58.840 --> 01:09:00.920
<v Speaker 5>I'm not one hundred percent. Yeah, I definitely need to

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01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:03.880
<v Speaker 5>do a lot more looking into it. Or something that

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01:09:03.920 --> 01:09:08.039
<v Speaker 5>has always fascinated me, and it's purely when you said

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01:09:08.119 --> 01:09:10.840
<v Speaker 5>about that it's in so many different like cultures and

1163
01:09:10.880 --> 01:09:14.600
<v Speaker 5>different texts and it all essentially resembles the same sort

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01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:17.000
<v Speaker 5>of thing. And then I'm kind of glad that you

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01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:19.000
<v Speaker 5>mentioned sort of like cryptic creatures or else this would

1166
01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:22.600
<v Speaker 5>have seemed like a very weird tangent. But something it's

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01:09:22.600 --> 01:09:25.239
<v Speaker 5>always always interested me because it's in so many different

1168
01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:32.159
<v Speaker 5>cultures is dragons. Yeah, because like I said, like when

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01:09:32.279 --> 01:09:36.239
<v Speaker 5>dragons were apparently a thing alive whatever you want to

1170
01:09:36.439 --> 01:09:40.640
<v Speaker 5>however you want to word it, like you know, you couldn't,

1171
01:09:40.680 --> 01:09:42.600
<v Speaker 5>you couldn't spread news around the world like you can

1172
01:09:42.720 --> 01:09:44.600
<v Speaker 5>now with the literally the press of a button sort

1173
01:09:44.640 --> 01:09:48.279
<v Speaker 5>of thing. So if there weren't real how we're all

1174
01:09:48.279 --> 01:09:51.079
<v Speaker 5>these different corners of the earth coming up with the

1175
01:09:51.079 --> 01:09:56.039
<v Speaker 5>same sort of like creature if it wasn't real. It's

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01:09:56.039 --> 01:09:57.720
<v Speaker 5>something that's always really interested me.

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01:09:59.439 --> 01:10:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you get them in the Bible, I mean,

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01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:03.560
<v Speaker 2>you get them in all these ancient texts.

1179
01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:04.279
<v Speaker 1>That's another thing.

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01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:08.840
<v Speaker 2>It's one of those universal things. I mean, you got

1181
01:10:08.840 --> 01:10:11.920
<v Speaker 2>the inc of stones down in Peru, you know, these

1182
01:10:12.279 --> 01:10:19.159
<v Speaker 2>ancient stones, but it's depicting people side by side with dinosaurs,

1183
01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:22.119
<v Speaker 2>and some of them they're riding them like horses into battle.

1184
01:10:23.119 --> 01:10:25.279
<v Speaker 2>And when you look at some of those man they

1185
01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:33.039
<v Speaker 2>even have the scales drone on the sides of them.

1186
01:10:33.159 --> 01:10:38.119
<v Speaker 2>It's like that these things were real. They walked alongside

1187
01:10:38.199 --> 01:10:41.640
<v Speaker 2>of them. I mean they were even drawing their freaking

1188
01:10:41.720 --> 01:10:45.600
<v Speaker 2>scales and stuff. And the Piloxi River down in Texas

1189
01:10:45.640 --> 01:10:50.279
<v Speaker 2>they find dinosaur prints side by side with human footprints.

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01:10:51.359 --> 01:10:54.399
<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't follow the scientific.

1191
01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Narrative that they were, you know, millions of years ago

1192
01:10:58.039 --> 01:11:02.039
<v Speaker 2>and they were way before main kind and they were separated. No,

1193
01:11:02.239 --> 01:11:04.960
<v Speaker 2>they were together, they were together.

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01:11:05.840 --> 01:11:07.680
<v Speaker 8>Mm hm.

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01:11:07.720 --> 01:11:11.079
<v Speaker 5>Again it's it's it's an It's an interesting one because.

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01:11:12.800 --> 01:11:13.039
<v Speaker 6>I do.

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01:11:13.560 --> 01:11:16.279
<v Speaker 5>I tend to be more more on the scientific side

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01:11:16.319 --> 01:11:20.960
<v Speaker 5>of things. But like you've I'm pretty sure, like the

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01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:24.039
<v Speaker 5>whole time when dinosaurs if you want to go like, say,

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01:11:24.079 --> 01:11:28.239
<v Speaker 5>you know what science says when dinosaurs were about there

1201
01:11:28.279 --> 01:11:32.399
<v Speaker 5>is literally millions of years between between them, just like

1202
01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:35.119
<v Speaker 5>just while they were on Earth. It's like it was

1203
01:11:35.119 --> 01:11:37.520
<v Speaker 5>one of my favorite things a part of Jurassic Park. Like,

1204
01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:40.560
<v Speaker 5>none of the article dinosaurs in Jurassic Park were around

1205
01:11:40.560 --> 01:11:43.680
<v Speaker 5>in the Jurassic period. I'm pretty sure that I might

1206
01:11:43.720 --> 01:11:46.319
<v Speaker 5>be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's even that there's

1207
01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:48.520
<v Speaker 5>not many of them that were around in the Jurassic period.

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01:11:48.640 --> 01:11:51.800
<v Speaker 5>So the names sort of stupid when you know people

1209
01:11:51.800 --> 01:11:55.760
<v Speaker 5>who want to be literal with things. Yeah, well, I

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01:11:55.880 --> 01:11:59.439
<v Speaker 5>say that that's something that's always always interested me. I said,

1211
01:11:59.520 --> 01:12:02.279
<v Speaker 5>just like the the idea of dragons, because let's be honest,

1212
01:12:02.319 --> 01:12:06.319
<v Speaker 5>that dragons are cool as fuck, big lizards that can

1213
01:12:06.359 --> 01:12:08.600
<v Speaker 5>fly and brief fire. I mean, whether they could brief fire.

1214
01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:10.640
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I don't know whether that's a thing, but

1215
01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:13.479
<v Speaker 5>I think there was definitely something to it.

1216
01:12:14.640 --> 01:12:15.159
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm.

1217
01:12:15.399 --> 01:12:21.119
<v Speaker 5>Personally, I mean I agree, m hmm, definitely definitely.

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01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:26.880
<v Speaker 5>Well, I'm not gonna lie just now. I really really

1220
01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:30.720
<v Speaker 5>enjoyed this has been, Like this has been a real

1221
01:12:30.840 --> 01:12:32.760
<v Speaker 5>education for me to be honest this episode. I'm not

1222
01:12:32.800 --> 01:12:33.239
<v Speaker 5>gonna lie.

1223
01:12:33.279 --> 01:12:33.520
<v Speaker 6>A lot.

1224
01:12:33.800 --> 01:12:36.000
<v Speaker 5>A lot of times I don't. I don't A lot

1225
01:12:36.039 --> 01:12:37.600
<v Speaker 5>of times I don't feel like I've learned a lot

1226
01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:41.159
<v Speaker 5>after speaking to people. But tonight I definitely have one

1227
01:12:41.239 --> 01:12:46.680
<v Speaker 5>hundred No problem, no problem. Do you want to tell

1228
01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:49.399
<v Speaker 5>our listeners where they can find you find your podcasts,

1229
01:12:49.520 --> 01:12:51.039
<v Speaker 5>more importantly, where they can find your book?

1230
01:12:52.279 --> 01:12:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I man, I appreciate you having me. I had

1231
01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:54.520
<v Speaker 1>a good time.

1232
01:12:55.119 --> 01:13:00.800
<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed the spooky, cool shed. But yeah, guys, if

1233
01:13:01.159 --> 01:13:04.560
<v Speaker 2>you enjoy some of the topics that I talked about today, uh,

1234
01:13:04.840 --> 01:13:06.439
<v Speaker 2>check check out my shows.

1235
01:13:06.720 --> 01:13:07.840
<v Speaker 1>I got one.

1236
01:13:07.920 --> 01:13:10.720
<v Speaker 2>It's more of like a Bible study. We just talk

1237
01:13:10.760 --> 01:13:12.920
<v Speaker 2>about stuff in the Bible and the weird stuff in

1238
01:13:12.920 --> 01:13:17.079
<v Speaker 2>the Bible. We talk about the dragons of the Bible,

1239
01:13:17.159 --> 01:13:21.880
<v Speaker 2>the Leviathan, you know, and ray Hab and uh stuff

1240
01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:25.039
<v Speaker 2>like that, and the fallen angels and the giants, all

1241
01:13:25.279 --> 01:13:27.159
<v Speaker 2>the cool, fringy stuff that you're not going to hear

1242
01:13:27.239 --> 01:13:27.680
<v Speaker 2>in church.

1243
01:13:27.840 --> 01:13:30.039
<v Speaker 1>That's what we do there at the Big Bible Podcast.

1244
01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:35.479
<v Speaker 2>My other's podcast is the Prometheus Lens Podcast. Everything from

1245
01:13:35.800 --> 01:13:41.439
<v Speaker 2>cryptids to lost civilizations to aliens to the Bible, all

1246
01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:48.399
<v Speaker 2>that cool stuff, conspiracy theories, but it's with a biblical lens.

1247
01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:51.039
<v Speaker 2>So you get all those cool things and you get

1248
01:13:51.079 --> 01:13:53.880
<v Speaker 2>my deep dive research, but you kind of get my

1249
01:13:53.960 --> 01:13:58.359
<v Speaker 2>perspective on it with with a biblical lens. And so

1250
01:13:58.520 --> 01:14:02.640
<v Speaker 2>just anywhere you can consume content, Spotify, Apple, YouTube, any

1251
01:14:02.640 --> 01:14:06.640
<v Speaker 2>of those fine establishments wherever your favorite place to consume content.

1252
01:14:06.760 --> 01:14:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Just search up the dig Bible podcast or Prometheus Lens

1253
01:14:09.640 --> 01:14:12.479
<v Speaker 2>podcast and you will find us there, same thing on

1254
01:14:12.520 --> 01:14:16.279
<v Speaker 2>the social media platforms. We're on all those different ones.

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<v Speaker 2>And the book is on Amazon. Just look for this

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<v Speaker 2>yoked out guy, The Epic of Esaw, the Birthright and

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<v Speaker 2>Seed War. You can get it in ebook for ten

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<v Speaker 2>bucks or paperback for twenty bucks. And this is twenty chapters,

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<v Speaker 2>or sorry, it's fifteen chapters, but it's really extensive. And

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<v Speaker 2>I lay all cards on the table. I go through

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<v Speaker 2>all the ancient extra biblical books, legends and lore. The

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<v Speaker 2>first few chapters I lay a groundwork for the wild Man.

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<v Speaker 2>So I go through all the ancient cultures, and I

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<v Speaker 2>go through all their legends and the lore about Bigfoot,

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<v Speaker 2>what they called it, and some of their legends. So

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<v Speaker 2>I lay out a good ground war you know that

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<v Speaker 2>this guy is real. You have it throughout the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I go into science. You know, uh, science

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<v Speaker 2>calls it hypertrixosis when people are born covered in hair

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<v Speaker 2>from head to toe. So I kind of look at

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<v Speaker 2>it from a scientific perspective. What could they call it?

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<v Speaker 2>And then I go through the Bible. I show you

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<v Speaker 2>a different wild men covered in hair in the Bible,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I introduce you to Saul and how he

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<v Speaker 2>intramarries into giant clans and all this different stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Full walkthrough of this enigmatic character of the Bible. If

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<v Speaker 2>you were ever curious about this dude, you're you're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to find a more complete story about this Sasquatch

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<v Speaker 2>sounding guy.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that's that's perfect, justin, It's perfect. Well, yeah, guys,

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<v Speaker 5>that's it. That's it for today, tonight's whatever, whatever time

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<v Speaker 5>you're listening to this, So as always, going to check

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<v Speaker 5>out Instagram page at the Spooky Shed Podcast. Here you'll

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<v Speaker 5>find a link in the bio for all our other pages,

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<v Speaker 5>merch stars, all that sort of stuff, and we shall

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<v Speaker 5>speak to you next time. Justin once again, thank you

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<v Speaker 5>for coming on, and obviously again all our listeners go

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<v Speaker 5>check out Justin, check out his book, check out his podcasts, and.

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<v Speaker 6>We shall speak to you next time.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, thank you brother, no problem, no problem, my.

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<v Speaker 8>Friend, anything ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi,