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<v Speaker 1>Hey, welcome back to Ia the Ball. Here on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera eas Mike in today

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<v Speaker 1>with I guess post, and now we have Henry with

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<v Speaker 1>breaking news.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Ball, Breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>Desert Diamond Arena and Arizona Athletics have mutually agreed that

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<v Speaker 3>the twenty twenty four Red Blue Showcase in Glendale on

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<v Speaker 3>October eleventh will be postponed until next year.

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<v Speaker 4>Not a shock to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this was going to come at some point

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<v Speaker 1>today or yesterday or someday, because I don't think the

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<v Speaker 1>ticket sales are.

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<v Speaker 4>Going very well.

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<v Speaker 1>One and two, I think circumstances of other things going

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<v Speaker 1>up in the valley kind of dictated this. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a great idea, I thought. In fact, someone texted me

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<v Speaker 1>ten minutes ago thinking that the thing was a bad

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<v Speaker 1>idea because it's in issue country. But it's not really

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<v Speaker 1>an Asian country. It's in Glendale, up up near Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you've driven up there. It's just way up

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<v Speaker 1>there that direction. Arizona needs. This is what I thought

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<v Speaker 1>when they first announced it. That was a pretty good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>They need money, right, They need money, Whether it's I

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<v Speaker 1>and I l money or otherwise, and why not, right,

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<v Speaker 1>if you get ten thousand people in that arena, there's

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<v Speaker 1>some women. Whatever the price we're gonna pay. But now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not shocked either.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I will tell you, Glendale, it's one thing to

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<v Speaker 5>draw you know, NFL teams or you know college football

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<v Speaker 5>playoff team fans to Glendale, But you're not going to

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<v Speaker 5>get that many fans out of Glendale. No, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>I quite honestly, I think that you'd have a better

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<v Speaker 5>shot doing it, uh doing it downtown Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of ag no question, no question, or

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<v Speaker 1>at arena like well, I don't even know what the

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<v Speaker 1>arena would be. But not too far up you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's ye, there's there's a lot of Arizona alums there

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<v Speaker 1>up there, right, we can acknowledge that. But but they're

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<v Speaker 1>also they they're thirsty for maybe more than just red blue, right, yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and they go to games like for regular season in games.

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<v Speaker 1>But hey, hey, Mildred, you want to go across the

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<v Speaker 1>town to go see the Red Blue game?

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<v Speaker 5>And let's let's take an hour and twenty minute drive

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<v Speaker 5>to Glendale.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, just might as well just come down to Duson. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's just how it is. It's unfortunate. Sure, not

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<v Speaker 1>surprising to me. Yeah, yeah, it was kind of. It

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<v Speaker 1>was interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>When I saw it, I was like, I was like, oh, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>this would be oh wait a minute, where Glendale right right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm not doing that. Yeah, yeah, Footprint.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they they may not have sold out footprint,

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<v Speaker 5>but they would have had a better crew, and I

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<v Speaker 5>think they would have had a better crowd.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's more of a.

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<v Speaker 1>How can I say this, more of a central part

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<v Speaker 1>for Arizona Arizona fans. Sure, and there's a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>there's no question. Yeah, I think there's plenty. There'd have

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<v Speaker 1>been enough. Yeah, right. Of course, footprint is probably a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more expensive to use.

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<v Speaker 4>To Carrio.

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<v Speaker 3>Davis was named the Big twelve Defensive Player of the Week.

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<v Speaker 4>He had five past difflections in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you I'm I'm disappointed that Matt wasn't here because

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<v Speaker 1>you saw you saw the read right, We're we all

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<v Speaker 1>got to get right. Well, we were on the thread

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<v Speaker 1>and uh you Matt, Jay and me and I'm listening

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't want to get in both of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and Jay Jay was saying he's making some money tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>which he very well could, because there's some thoughts that

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<v Speaker 1>he could be a high round draft picker. Maybe not,

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<v Speaker 1>and and Matt, I don't want to speak for Mat,

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<v Speaker 1>but what's Matt thinking. No, no, that he's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be right. There's some questions about his ability and

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>They tested him and he showed up. He looked whole world.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, they went at him fourth down and they said,

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<v Speaker 5>it's like going, Okay, you're gonna they put that that

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<v Speaker 5>that big tight end. He was out on that big

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<v Speaker 5>tight end on that one fourth down play, which I

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<v Speaker 5>think that that play might have to your point earlier,

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<v Speaker 5>it might have changed the game. On that big fourth

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<v Speaker 5>downboard down, he just stocked. He just knocked it away

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<v Speaker 5>the uh as a sick as a six fourth corner

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<v Speaker 5>and you don't run into six fourk and you're good

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<v Speaker 5>and you're good and you're good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is what I thought, because I watched some

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<v Speaker 1>of it early, all of it. Actually I was getting

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<v Speaker 1>text God singers destroying us, the singers destroying us, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were talking about you know, he was guests beating Davis.

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<v Speaker 1>And then all of a sudden he wasn't and then

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<v Speaker 1>Davis had this game. So it depends on the throw,

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<v Speaker 1>depends on the moment. Yeah, well, I guess you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It depends on how you do and where an acted down.

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<v Speaker 1>He seemed to have good position.

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<v Speaker 5>Now when they scored that touchdown at the start of

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<v Speaker 5>the fourth quarter on that long on that long pass play,

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<v Speaker 5>he looked a little out of position. Well, he looked

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<v Speaker 5>a lot out of position. He was way off the

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<v Speaker 5>receiver and the receiver got had a pretty uh had

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<v Speaker 5>a pretty easy catch, catch and throw.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, you know, take one look at me and you

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<v Speaker 5>realize that I don't play a lot of cornerback. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't even play cornerback when we're playing touch football.

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<v Speaker 5>But I will say this, like the plays that he made,

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<v Speaker 5>he was right on those guys.

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<v Speaker 4>They were making those cuts.

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<v Speaker 3>The MLB playoff match have been announced for the Al Tigers,

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<v Speaker 3>Astras and Royals Orioles that will be starting tomorrow. The

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<v Speaker 3>Mets Braves game is happening right now. The Mets one

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<v Speaker 3>game one and they clenched and the Braves are leading

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<v Speaker 3>three nothing, and we'll clench with a win to eliminate

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<v Speaker 3>the Diamondbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that was right. Right. So I watched the Diamonds

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<v Speaker 1>this out of curiosity over the weekend, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was Saturday's game when they was there tied going

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<v Speaker 1>in to the ninth, I think it was zero zero,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they gave up five runs and then think,

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<v Speaker 1>oh this is over, and then they still have hope.

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<v Speaker 1>They had hope going into today, right.

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<v Speaker 4>They needed one of the teams to sweep the other

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<v Speaker 4>to sweet the other.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, so well, a heck of a heck of another

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<v Speaker 1>heck of a run, but not good in them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's like just short. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>There are two Monday night football games this week, the

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<v Speaker 3>Titians at Dolphins at four point thirty and the Seahawks

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<v Speaker 3>at Lions at five point fifteen.

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<v Speaker 4>What's up of your Dolphins? I don't know. They're terrible. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>they don't have a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so they they put all their money in on Tua,

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<v Speaker 5>which you know is like going not blying a glass

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<v Speaker 5>figurine for you know, don't touch it, forty million, break it,

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<v Speaker 5>you must pay for it. Don't ever touch this. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>I have a house full of kids and a big

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<v Speaker 5>glass sculpture, so you know, and once, once, they lost too.

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<v Speaker 6>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>That is the other thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, they've dumped a lot of money into receivers.

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<v Speaker 5>They got Waddle that that they just got an extension to.

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<v Speaker 5>They got to Hill that they gave a huge extension to.

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<v Speaker 5>They got two of that they gave. They got cornerbacks,

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<v Speaker 5>they gave extension to. What they lack are linemen and

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<v Speaker 5>linebackers particularly. They got great running backs, no offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>How's that million dollar house that you have no prediction,

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<v Speaker 1>no security for?

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<v Speaker 5>Right, It's like geez, Louise, it's a you know, they

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<v Speaker 5>haven't you know, they haven't built. Now you look at

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<v Speaker 5>a team like Houston, Houston has built.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, they were.

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<v Speaker 5>Good, awful, I mean terrible, which is why they got

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<v Speaker 5>so many early draft picks. But they built their line.

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<v Speaker 5>And then after they built their line, now they've got

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<v Speaker 5>draft picks. Now they picked up uh c J. Stroud

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<v Speaker 5>and uh Harry who's that? Who's their defensive guy that

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<v Speaker 5>they that they.

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<v Speaker 4>Got on, uh Daniel Hunter. Yeah, they and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's like I love kids.

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<v Speaker 5>They know all that exactly, and so it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>they're uh that's the thing that they that they that

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<v Speaker 5>they did. Dolphins did it. The other way, and I don't,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think they're going to pay the price. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>they got Huntley his quarterback today, so at least they

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<v Speaker 5>are trying something. We'll see what, We'll see how that

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<v Speaker 5>all goes.

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<v Speaker 3>Hall of Famer to Kemy Matumba was announced dead today

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<v Speaker 3>at age fifty eight due to brain cancer.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that, you know, the shaking of the finger guy,

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<v Speaker 1>A good player, Georgetown product. Uh you know, one of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys, A lovable guy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, very lovable. I mean he was very popular in

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<v Speaker 5>the NBA. No no, no, no, no no. Uh yeah

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<v Speaker 5>uh and even after that, I mean he was he

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<v Speaker 5>was popular and a great ambassador for the sport.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh uh.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a terrible loss at early early age.

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<v Speaker 5>Brain tumors are a terrible thing.

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<v Speaker 3>The Arizona b y U game time for October twelfth

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<v Speaker 3>has been announced for one pm.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's yeah. Is that Friday?

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<v Speaker 4>What did its Saturday? Saturdays? Twelfth? Twelve? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>I saw eleventh? I think, how why are you playing

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday? No, No, twelve, that's perfect, that's good weather,

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<v Speaker 1>game o'clock game. How often does that happen?

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<v Speaker 4>I know?

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<v Speaker 5>Exac October when when you said one o'clock. I thought

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<v Speaker 5>you meant am. I figured that's the one AM slot

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<v Speaker 5>that they gave us. Yeah, we get we get some

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<v Speaker 5>horrible game times. Man, it's like sit there and go, oh, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, maybe it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Hot and I guess eight pm, and I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>b YU does not play well or historically play well

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<v Speaker 1>during the day. So there's another thing there. You go.

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<v Speaker 3>Good, the Braves just officially won, so they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be playing the Padres and the Mets are going to

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<v Speaker 3>be playing the Brewers. Yeah what so again, so the

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<v Speaker 3>Braves are playing the Padres and the Mets are playing

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<v Speaker 3>the Brewers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, okay, what a bummer, I mean, what a

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<v Speaker 1>way to lose?

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<v Speaker 4>How well?

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<v Speaker 5>How much you follow the Diamondback I actually don't follow

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<v Speaker 5>the Diamondbacks very much, okay, but they are hometown team

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<v Speaker 5>and be there was a lot. It was pretty exciting

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<v Speaker 5>last year when they when they won, you know, so

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<v Speaker 5>I can't say they're my team though.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all I got.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thank you, that was good. That was quick, Senior.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta go find some stuff now. Let's see what

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<v Speaker 1>The game last night Baltimore and Buffalo. That was as

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<v Speaker 1>that was an easy donal. He's playing out of his mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I know him, Okay, I know him. Okay, Well you

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, let me say this because you to me, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>And then but before that I had seen him very thin,

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<v Speaker 1>used to be because he was a thicker guy, right, No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>he was. I think he's been ill. He had been ill.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't say so that'll come out, you said, eighty three.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my mom's but no, yeah, but no, my mom

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<v Speaker 4>I am. I've never well, that's.

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<v Speaker 5>Crazy to talk about an icon from our yeah, of

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<v Speaker 5>our past, is like, right, well, the question comes now

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, maybe too early for talking about this.

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<v Speaker 4>But does he now? Does he get in? Wow? Wow?

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<v Speaker 5>You know it's like it probably ever happened when you're alive, Pete. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and you're not going to see it. You know you're

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<v Speaker 5>not going to see it. The question is, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 5>thinner than what he had been. He was always a

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<v Speaker 5>and you can't the one thing you can't take away

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<v Speaker 5>He was a heck of a player. He was a

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<v Speaker 5>heck of a player. I mean, you know, I mean

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<v Speaker 5>he was a tremendous hitter. I mean he won, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>obviously the hits leader. Yeah, he was, you know, Charlie

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<v Speaker 5>have a very very good friend of mine, Rick and

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<v Speaker 5>he uh I've you know, talk about my team. Uh

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<v Speaker 5>my team was the Reds is the Reds still is?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay? Mine mine too growing up.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and it's a you know what a staple on

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<v Speaker 5>the big Red machine that he was. Uh wow, that's

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<v Speaker 5>something else. Yeah, I think were lost in the Sport's

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<v Speaker 5>talk more about this when we can take some calls.

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<v Speaker 5>But let me ask you Kevin Porter Junior too. I

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<v Speaker 5>guess he's in a camp this summer and the Clippers

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<v Speaker 5>they're giving him a chance. Whether the NBA gives him

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<v Speaker 5>a chance or not, we'll see. He was the kid

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<v Speaker 5>and you probably know off the top of your head

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<v Speaker 5>he gambled on something.

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<v Speaker 4>He was gambling on.

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<v Speaker 3>Something that's John te a different person. Okay, Kevin Porter

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<v Speaker 3>was assault charge?

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<v Speaker 1>Please you right, please you get to a saw in charge. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's a different Kevin Porter junior. So we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens with that. And okay, yeah, wow, well I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still a little shocked about that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, what did you get that from? That

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<v Speaker 4>was just an alert Twitter alert about it?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, icon of sports man right there.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I was gonna say, just on the top

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<v Speaker 1>of my head, who growing up? Who's your guy growing up?

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<v Speaker 1>Who is good? Whether it's football, basketball?

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<v Speaker 5>Right? Well, I always love King Griffy, you know, your

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<v Speaker 5>senior senor senior because he was a teammate at Pete Rose.

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<v Speaker 5>He was a teammate at p Rose. Uh, he was

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<v Speaker 5>on the Big Red Machine. I just thought he was

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<v Speaker 5>a class act. I just I loved his style and demeanor.

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<v Speaker 5>He wasn't the greatest player on that team, no, they

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<v Speaker 5>they had a lot of great players on the team,

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<v Speaker 5>but Ken Griffy was always was always my uh favorite guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Who who are yours growing up? I mean you're still

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<v Speaker 1>kind of growing up?

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<v Speaker 3>Favorite athletes? Yeah, I don't know. I didn't really have

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<v Speaker 3>like a favorite athlete.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't have a favorite baseball player. I mean that

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<v Speaker 4>was the Yankees Fance. I guess everyone like Jeters.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, everyone. I liked his lineup with his with his girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 5>That was just the Jeter is the free space on

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<v Speaker 5>a Bengo card for you know, who's your favorite player

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<v Speaker 5>for that generation?

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<v Speaker 4>Right? So he was unbelievable, but.

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<v Speaker 1>So mine growing up if it wasn't Pete Rea, Muhammad Ali,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, watching him growing up, but it was the

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<v Speaker 1>funny thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you see the stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>With Mayfield and uh and uh and uh, Brady, did

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<v Speaker 1>you hear that at all?

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<v Speaker 6>Well?

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<v Speaker 5>I heard that Brady Mayfields that his comments were taken

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<v Speaker 5>out of context.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that the Blocker room is a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more relaxed now than Brady was there. He was intense

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<v Speaker 1>and made things a little uncomfortable. Yeah. Yeah, but I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll apply this to you. I met you thirty

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<v Speaker 1>some years ago. Someone introduced me to you. They needed

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<v Speaker 1>a player, a softball player that came on board. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was a halfway decent player. You can

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<v Speaker 1>let me, you can you can rip me whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 1>So so, and you're an intense dude, You're an intense, dude.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to win.

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<v Speaker 1>I get that, so do I. But I'm at a

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<v Speaker 1>different level than you and and you. In order for

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<v Speaker 1>to be one of those guys, the Michael Jordan's, the

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<v Speaker 1>the Kobe Bryants, the Tom Brady, there's a it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a secret that you're you kind of had to be

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<v Speaker 1>a pain in the ass or a really kind of

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<v Speaker 1>high strung dude because it gets everybody else either not upset,

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<v Speaker 1>but kind of a little nervous.

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<v Speaker 4>But it makes you play harder as.

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<v Speaker 5>A as a as a leader on a team, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>especially you know, especially when you're talking about a basketball

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<v Speaker 5>team and there's twelve players the uh, but a football team.

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<v Speaker 5>You have to not accept mediocrity. And that's what it is,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's what it is. It is, it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 5>not just being laid back, it's not just being cool

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<v Speaker 5>and being hip with the guys or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 5>It's about I'm not gonna accept mediocrity. I'll never forget

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<v Speaker 5>this one. Uh, this one player that I worked with

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<v Speaker 5>at Army Football, Ben Kotwica, who is a special teams

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<v Speaker 4>The uh he uh.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember after one football game. This was the ten

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<v Speaker 5>and two team that should have beat Auburn uh in

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<v Speaker 5>the independicipal but they after a practice, he was getting

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<v Speaker 5>on the bus and had some guy sit. They're joking

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<v Speaker 5>around after practice, like on a on a Tuesday practice,

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<v Speaker 5>and he just grabbed this kid and shook the heck

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<v Speaker 5>out of him and was like going, you need to

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<v Speaker 5>play better and practice and you need you don't need

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<v Speaker 4>And I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 5>He made sure that everyone on that team knew that

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<v Speaker 5>they were it was time for business.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know what, that locker room was pretty damn

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot to it. And you used to get

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<v Speaker 1>on me, play harder, play tough or whatever. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, we were I wasn't paying attention to you, guy,

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<v Speaker 5>I understand. Yeah, I know you were popping out to

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, welcome back to wying the ball Here Fox Sports

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera. In with me is Mike Quinn.

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<v Speaker 1>Now in the phone. We have Scooby, right, Scooby, How

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<v Speaker 1>the heck are you?

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<v Speaker 6>Hey? How are you do doing?

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<v Speaker 4>Scooby? Are you there?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? I'm here. Are you gonna think he still?

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<v Speaker 4>Is he still there? I can't hear him?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm here here. Hello, Scooby there? Hello?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, Scooby, I can hear you.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, how are you? And I'm sure you were pretty

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<v Speaker 1>thrilled at least your social media is. After Arizona won

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<v Speaker 1>that big game against Utah, what were your thoughts on that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that was a huge win. That was a huge game.

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<v Speaker 7>It was always tough coming up seeing how the team

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<v Speaker 7>responds after a loss headed into a bye week. I

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<v Speaker 7>thought that kind of sets the tone a little bit,

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<v Speaker 7>kind of the exposes a lot of things that can

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<v Speaker 7>back kind of correct its course.

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<v Speaker 6>It'll be. It was a huge win for them last week.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the biggest difference that you saw from the

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<v Speaker 1>first three weeks to last week till just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days ago.

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<v Speaker 6>To be honest, I missed the Kansas Tate game.

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<v Speaker 7>I was I was at jujitsual practice, but I watched

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<v Speaker 7>a couple of games before, so it was it was cool.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, they were playing good, They're playing hard.

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<v Speaker 7>It was just it was nice to see them establish

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<v Speaker 7>the run game and kind of keep that going and

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<v Speaker 7>rely on that more.

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<v Speaker 1>M hm, how how this is dumb question, but are

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<v Speaker 1>you still close to the program? Do you keep in

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<v Speaker 1>touch with people?

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<v Speaker 7>Not really, not as much anymore, because, uh, when I

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<v Speaker 7>was the last couple of years, I was more so

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<v Speaker 7>evolved because I was part of the Pactal Alumni Council.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, so so.

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<v Speaker 7>I had a I was just more involved than Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm ever since the Big Twelve thing, it's I haven't

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<v Speaker 7>really been involved as much.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good point because I wonder do they not

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<v Speaker 1>have the same type of thing on the Big Twelve?

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<v Speaker 7>Not really, I mean it is what it is. I

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<v Speaker 7>mean it's all at all. Everybody has new conferences, so

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<v Speaker 7>it's all kind of jumbled up. But yeah, it'll be Uh,

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<v Speaker 7>I'll be there homecoming, so I know that. So I'm

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<v Speaker 7>excited to go to that game.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people, a lot of people will be

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<v Speaker 1>You're very excited to see you there, buddy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So the defense, uh, they played out of their mind obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you were great. They were happy to see

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<v Speaker 1>that and great to see Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Who is that? I saw that? The defensive back. Can

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<v Speaker 6>you remind me of his name again? I can't remember?

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<v Speaker 4>David car Davis.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, to Caro Davis. He he balled out.

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<v Speaker 7>That guy made some big plays. He was he's a

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<v Speaker 7>big time player. I really like watching that guy play. Then,

532
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<v Speaker 7>just the D line, the way they are pass queshion

533
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<v Speaker 7>and just kind of everybody was moving together and that

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<v Speaker 7>kind of kind of that kind of is how a

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<v Speaker 7>successful defense is.

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<v Speaker 6>And all still winders are fire and on the same one,

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<v Speaker 6>you know.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so the uh, the the defensive line has been

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<v Speaker 5>much aligned because I mean they're just they're not blowing

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<v Speaker 5>people off the ball. They're getting blown back into the linebackers.

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<v Speaker 5>And you as a you as a flowing linebacker, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>what did what do you say, are you seeing them

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<v Speaker 5>play differently against Utah? I mean how much does his

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<v Speaker 5>defensive line play help as a linebacker?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean defense line play helps a lot.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean I played in a three man front and

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<v Speaker 7>and uh my nose guard was Parkazeller's and and on

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<v Speaker 7>some days I wighed more than him.

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<v Speaker 6>So I know, so I.

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<v Speaker 7>Know, I know all you're talking about with that, with

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<v Speaker 7>that going on, but yeah, I think more so just

552
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<v Speaker 7>has to do with the linebackers. I mean it makes

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<v Speaker 7>plays hard. But in a lot of defenses and the

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<v Speaker 7>way that issigned, you have a gap. I mean, so

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<v Speaker 7>like say, if you have a one technique and that

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<v Speaker 7>center guard combo steps down. As a linebacker, you're taught

557
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<v Speaker 7>as soon as they make contact you need to fly

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<v Speaker 7>down hill.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's kind of a two way street between d

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<v Speaker 6>line and getting blown off the ball and then linebacker's

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<v Speaker 6>not playing downhill. So I mean, I could probably take

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<v Speaker 6>a little more look and give you a better answer

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<v Speaker 6>once I know that question.

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<v Speaker 1>So so Jake, Jake Fisher is always on the show

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<v Speaker 1>once a week. He comes on and does this thing

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<v Speaker 1>with his insurance, great insight. He was a teammate of

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<v Speaker 1>yours show when you were younger. Uh, And then he

568
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<v Speaker 1>he comes around, you come around after him, and now

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<v Speaker 1>they have this another guy who's fantastic man who what's

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<v Speaker 1>your impression of him?

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<v Speaker 6>He's a player, He's a ballhawk.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean he makes plays that he makes plays in

573
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<v Speaker 7>the blitz, he makes plays in the end game, he

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<v Speaker 7>makes plays the past game. He's kind of a kind

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<v Speaker 7>of a complete player. And the honest it's it's fun

576
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<v Speaker 7>to watch him play.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll kind of go back and forth with this

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Uh, you and in all seriousness, you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of typified Arizona football. Then now no one really thought

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<v Speaker 1>much of you. You came in your two star scoob

581
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<v Speaker 1>and you beat the crap out of people. You must

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<v Speaker 1>have taken a lot of pride in that, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona football. You show up, no one believes, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you go out and kick some other ass.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean I wanted to go

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<v Speaker 6>to all.

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<v Speaker 7>Those back close schools and they all said I wasn't

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<v Speaker 7>good enough. So whenever time I got the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 7>go punch him in the mouth, I did.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you think do you think that played a

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<v Speaker 1>part on Saturday? Because that happens a lot. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean that that Arizona a ten point underdog no

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<v Speaker 1>one thought, and then you go in and you win.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, to be honest, I wish I would have

596
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<v Speaker 7>put some money on that game because Arizona always crazy.

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<v Speaker 7>Arizona I knew, because I knew that they were going

598
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<v Speaker 7>to play well, right, I mean, Arizona always plays well

599
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<v Speaker 7>in Utah. I mean back in my days, we always

600
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<v Speaker 7>played well against Utah because we would go hurry up,

601
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<v Speaker 7>and we knew we would get them tired and we

602
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<v Speaker 7>would those big those big boys, they couldn't they couldn't

603
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<v Speaker 7>last the whole game with us, We wear them out.

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<v Speaker 7>So I mean that was from my experience back in

605
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<v Speaker 7>playing in Arizona and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 6>But like it's like if you can play in Arizona.

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<v Speaker 6>You can play it.

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<v Speaker 7>Anywhere and go play you know what I mean, any

609
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<v Speaker 7>environment and go be okay, you know, because you just

610
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<v Speaker 7>have that different mentality.

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<v Speaker 1>No question, you got you, Tevis Fisher. These dudes that

612
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<v Speaker 1>nobody gives any credit for shows up and and and

613
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<v Speaker 1>do very well. I mean you said, Arizona football. I

614
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<v Speaker 1>was with somebody earlier today and says, how did this happen?

615
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<v Speaker 1>I says, well, having been here for thirty years and

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<v Speaker 1>seeing this every time you tell Arizona players they can't

617
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<v Speaker 1>they do right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and Cardia cat there you Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think people are tired of that. Their hearts are

621
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<v Speaker 1>too old. The alla days. You got to start to

622
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<v Speaker 1>start getting playing better all the time.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I hear you on that, But no, it was

624
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<v Speaker 7>they played great.

625
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<v Speaker 6>I think they're only gonna keep getting better.

626
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and so the defense, I mean so so they

627
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<v Speaker 5>played great. And this isn't a this isn't a shot

628
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<v Speaker 5>at them, and it's not like one of those things

629
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<v Speaker 5>where it's like, you know, everything's roses, but the but

630
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<v Speaker 5>here's a thorn. But we're not getting a lot of turnovers.

631
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<v Speaker 5>And you had mentioned about turnovers.

632
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<v Speaker 4>What do we need to do.

633
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<v Speaker 5>What do we need to do differently in order to

634
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<v Speaker 5>start causing them to cough the ball up on the

635
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<v Speaker 5>defensive side.

636
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<v Speaker 6>How many TVs did the Caaro Davis had he had

637
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<v Speaker 6>seven crass.

638
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well he had eight or five knockdowns? Yeah, five knockdowns?

639
00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:49.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

640
00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:53.599
<v Speaker 7>So say he catches two of those and then they

641
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:56.200
<v Speaker 7>get a fumble, yeah, in the game. I think that

642
00:28:56.319 --> 00:28:58.200
<v Speaker 7>I think that'll work out. I think I think they

643
00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:00.680
<v Speaker 7>just got to emsist the football.

644
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:01.759
<v Speaker 6>That's how you get turnovers.

645
00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:03.039
<v Speaker 7>I mean, you can be there and make a play

646
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:04.839
<v Speaker 7>and knock the football down, but you have to be

647
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:06.880
<v Speaker 7>able to come downhill and attack the football and want

648
00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:09.559
<v Speaker 7>to go. I want to go like you see Travis

649
00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:11.960
<v Speaker 7>Hunter do it all the time. He attacked the football

650
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:15.359
<v Speaker 7>as a wide receiver playing defensive back. I mean, good

651
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:17.400
<v Speaker 7>defensive backs are there and they make the play. So

652
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:20.640
<v Speaker 7>it'd be cool to see those guys start making make

653
00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:21.799
<v Speaker 7>a start attacking the ball.

654
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:25.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, did you play with Bonderette? I think you did, right, Yeah,

655
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:27.279
<v Speaker 1>he was one of those dudes.

656
00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:28.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

657
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:32.240
<v Speaker 7>I mean there is always a joke between in the defense,

658
00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:35.359
<v Speaker 7>like the ball the ball levitated towards him so that

659
00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:37.720
<v Speaker 7>he was it was always fun playing playing with him

660
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:39.799
<v Speaker 7>because he knew something that was cool gonna happen.

661
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:42.240
<v Speaker 1>Right right, and he always found a way to get

662
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:44.720
<v Speaker 1>to the ball. Those type of players are hard to

663
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:46.680
<v Speaker 1>find because they kind of have the instinct. You had

664
00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>that instinct.

665
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:50.160
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, I think it just goes back to

666
00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:53.640
<v Speaker 7>just kind of just want to of just hey, I'm

667
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:54.799
<v Speaker 7>going to get there to go make a play, but

668
00:29:54.839 --> 00:29:56.519
<v Speaker 7>I'm going to go affect the game, you know what

669
00:29:56.559 --> 00:29:56.839
<v Speaker 7>I mean.

670
00:29:58.440 --> 00:30:00.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean you certainly were you. I mean you

671
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:02.759
<v Speaker 5>were you were attacking. I mean, holy moly, you were

672
00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:07.920
<v Speaker 5>always always motor on, never never took a playoff. So

673
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:10.920
<v Speaker 5>how much do you go after the ball, how much

674
00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:13.279
<v Speaker 5>do you hit the ball out or how much do

675
00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:14.839
<v Speaker 5>you just focus on tackling.

676
00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:18.200
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it's all. It's all good back to coaching,

677
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:18.799
<v Speaker 6>to be honest.

678
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:22.440
<v Speaker 7>I mean back in my days and stuff and Arizona

679
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:29.079
<v Speaker 7>Cardinals usfl XL that it was there was always drills

680
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:30.759
<v Speaker 7>to do that. Hey, if they're coming out the quarterback,

681
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:32.200
<v Speaker 7>take a slip for the ball. Hey, if you're a

682
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:35.160
<v Speaker 7>running backer, if you're a linebacker. You got the running

683
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:37.680
<v Speaker 7>backs that I paid defensive back coming down from fifteen

684
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:39.680
<v Speaker 7>yards deep, you have a better angle to punch out

685
00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:42.559
<v Speaker 7>the ball. So just kind of little stuff like that

686
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:44.440
<v Speaker 7>that just kind of can be coachable and just kind

687
00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:47.079
<v Speaker 7>of more of a technique thing, I think. I think

688
00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:49.160
<v Speaker 7>that's more so where Turner's coming to play is when

689
00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:51.440
<v Speaker 7>it's technique and one too.

690
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:53.839
<v Speaker 1>So it's hard to ask you this question because you

691
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:55.640
<v Speaker 1>were probably the answer to your own question that I

692
00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>would ask who was the best player you played against?

693
00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:02.720
<v Speaker 1>One and two on your team too, so against and

694
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:04.359
<v Speaker 1>then on your team at the time.

695
00:31:05.640 --> 00:31:08.799
<v Speaker 6>That Arizona. Yeah, who was my favorite player?

696
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:11.960
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, he's the toughest, the toughest, the toughest player.

697
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:16.759
<v Speaker 6>Oh, the toughest player. Uh Stephen Garola, Oh he was.

698
00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:18.480
<v Speaker 1>He was a pain. He was a pain. He even

699
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:21.759
<v Speaker 1>got to a fight with rich Ron one day, rich Trod.

700
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:24.720
<v Speaker 1>You don't see, yeah, I.

701
00:31:24.599 --> 00:31:27.759
<v Speaker 7>Mean, I mean rich Rod loved him. But uh yeah,

702
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:29.960
<v Speaker 7>he's he's a he's a fighter right now, so I

703
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:33.119
<v Speaker 7>mean it makes sense him and oh yeah him and

704
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:35.599
<v Speaker 7>came in bundage or came in bundage is not. But

705
00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:38.720
<v Speaker 7>those two guys they were mean. They like they used

706
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:40.920
<v Speaker 7>to beat up a lot of linebackers.

707
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:43.559
<v Speaker 6>Defensive lilight but that.

708
00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:45.599
<v Speaker 7>Just goes back to the mentality of just kind of

709
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:47.440
<v Speaker 7>the mentality of those guys had, and it was just

710
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:50.519
<v Speaker 7>kind of they were the tone they were the they

711
00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:53.759
<v Speaker 7>were the quote tone setters of Hey, that's how the

712
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:55.000
<v Speaker 7>offensive lineman should be.

713
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:57.920
<v Speaker 6>The offensive lineman should be your scariest dude on your team.

714
00:31:58.119 --> 00:32:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, do you remember that? Do you remember that

715
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:04.119
<v Speaker 1>time that he and rich Rod and rich rud said

716
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:05.440
<v Speaker 1>just get tail out of practice?

717
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:07.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think he was trying to fight someone.

718
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:10.599
<v Speaker 7>And then Richmond, but to be honest with rich Ward

719
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:14.640
<v Speaker 7>probably love that that. He just probably didn't want people

720
00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:16.319
<v Speaker 7>fighting on the field, you know what I mean?

721
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:16.720
<v Speaker 4>Right?

722
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Right? No?

723
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:17.319
<v Speaker 2>No?

724
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:17.680
<v Speaker 4>Okay?

725
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>So, and the best player that you was? Does Steve

726
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:21.960
<v Speaker 1>answer both questions? Who was the best player? Because I

727
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:23.240
<v Speaker 1>wanted to go somewhere with.

728
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:27.200
<v Speaker 6>This the best player I played againswer.

729
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:33.960
<v Speaker 4>Or with and with okay, you can't say you.

730
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:38.079
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, probably Tyren Matthew. That was a guy who who

731
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:40.079
<v Speaker 7>when I was on the Cardinals for a couple of years,

732
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:43.359
<v Speaker 7>I really got to be around and really see him

733
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:48.799
<v Speaker 7>play and see how yeah and uh yeah, I really

734
00:32:48.839 --> 00:32:51.599
<v Speaker 7>just liked the way he played. He was really cool. Yeah,

735
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:54.000
<v Speaker 7>and just the way he played and how he disguised

736
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:57.039
<v Speaker 7>uff because, like I remember being a young linebacker trying

737
00:32:57.039 --> 00:32:59.039
<v Speaker 7>to learn the system. Every time in the playbook it

738
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:00.880
<v Speaker 7>would be hey, this is X, Y and Z, but

739
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:02.640
<v Speaker 7>he would be not, I'm going to do this and

740
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:04.480
<v Speaker 7>this is going to be the look and kind of

741
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:05.559
<v Speaker 7>the backyard football.

742
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:07.759
<v Speaker 6>But he had the right to go do that because

743
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:08.559
<v Speaker 6>he was such a good.

744
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:11.039
<v Speaker 1>Player right right. Well, recently I asked that question. And

745
00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:13.559
<v Speaker 1>I've been around the program for a long time. I've

746
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:18.480
<v Speaker 1>seen some fantastic players McAllister, so many a Trump, Kennedy,

747
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>all these guys, but Tim mac is a fantastic talent.

748
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:23.359
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you feel the same way.

749
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:26.839
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, he's a I never really paid a

750
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:29.079
<v Speaker 7>man too much attention to the offense side. I mean

751
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:32.279
<v Speaker 7>I feel like Arizona's historically has had better defensive players.

752
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:33.599
<v Speaker 7>Do you think I'm wrong for saying that?

753
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:37.319
<v Speaker 4>No? No, no, not at all, risky. Have you had

754
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:38.440
<v Speaker 4>a lot of examples of that?

755
00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:42.599
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, I mean I feel like Arizona hasn't mean that.

756
00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:43.440
<v Speaker 6>Don't get me wrong.

757
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:46.079
<v Speaker 7>Given all the respect to Kadean Carey, he was like

758
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:49.279
<v Speaker 7>he's probably someone I probably would have said close second

759
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:51.079
<v Speaker 7>player who I played the best player I played with

760
00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:55.400
<v Speaker 7>in Arizona when I was there, because he yeah, he was,

761
00:33:56.200 --> 00:33:58.279
<v Speaker 7>he was strong, he was to ask, he worked hard

762
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:01.000
<v Speaker 7>in the weight room. I mean like guys like that.

763
00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:03.440
<v Speaker 7>I mean, he's probably the last big time player I

764
00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:07.599
<v Speaker 7>would say, no disrespect anybody the Arizona had right right

765
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:08.360
<v Speaker 7>on the opposite side.

766
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:10.679
<v Speaker 1>Let's ask about you real quick. What are you up

767
00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:11.519
<v Speaker 1>to these days?

768
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:16.280
<v Speaker 6>So I'm just hanging out right now. I'm trying to

769
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:17.719
<v Speaker 6>start my EMT programs.

770
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:20.639
<v Speaker 7>So I got all my fire fire certificates firefighter for

771
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:24.000
<v Speaker 7>one and five fighter too, So that's the hopefully get

772
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:25.920
<v Speaker 7>my EMT here, not hopefully going to get my emp

773
00:34:26.360 --> 00:34:27.800
<v Speaker 7>here by the end of the year. And started flying

774
00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:30.199
<v Speaker 7>places and just trained a lot of martial arts.

775
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:32.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, are you still are you still fighting? Are

776
00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:32.800
<v Speaker 1>you still doing that?

777
00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:35.559
<v Speaker 6>Yeah? I had, I'm still training.

778
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:37.079
<v Speaker 7>I've had a lot of I've only had a couple

779
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:39.440
<v Speaker 7>of pkvs and stuff in a hu jiu jitsu tournaments.

780
00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:42.119
<v Speaker 7>But I still want to lose another like fifteen pounds

781
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:43.400
<v Speaker 7>or so before I start competing.

782
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:45.079
<v Speaker 4>So how tough is that?

783
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Because some of the toughest dudes on the earth yeah,

784
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:49.280
<v Speaker 1>are wrestlers or trying.

785
00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:49.920
<v Speaker 4>To do what you're doing.

786
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:53.880
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean the guy I trained with, he was

787
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:56.039
<v Speaker 7>an All American wrestler, I mean training partner. He was

788
00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:58.239
<v Speaker 7>an All American wrestler and he was the number one

789
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:02.480
<v Speaker 7>amateur in the country for light heavyweight heavyweight. His name

790
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:06.079
<v Speaker 7>is Kyle Clark. He's my main trading partner. So like

791
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:10.800
<v Speaker 7>like he like he handed to me like both more

792
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:14.800
<v Speaker 7>times than not. It's like, yeah, it's hard. I mean

793
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.239
<v Speaker 7>like today's like today's practice we had it was it

794
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:20.079
<v Speaker 7>was brilliant. Like they have a they have a trash

795
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:21.840
<v Speaker 7>They have a trash can for me that has a

796
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:22.880
<v Speaker 7>shark dog sticker on it.

797
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:24.679
<v Speaker 6>I go, we're not open it so much.

798
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:31.119
<v Speaker 1>There's those those those wrestlers. Man, they don't know how

799
00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:34.199
<v Speaker 1>to stop. No, no, their angles, they know everything. There's

800
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:36.599
<v Speaker 1>this cunning they beat the crap on you. Well, more

801
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:37.079
<v Speaker 1>power to you.

802
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:37.280
<v Speaker 6>Have you?

803
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you something because my son's and son's

804
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:41.760
<v Speaker 1>a nurse and he was an e er type of

805
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:44.079
<v Speaker 1>he's in the r Have you saved the life yet?

806
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:46.159
<v Speaker 1>This might be a weird question, but because you guys

807
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:46.719
<v Speaker 1>are important.

808
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:49.360
<v Speaker 6>No, I haven't saved no last yet.

809
00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:51.960
<v Speaker 7>And I'm just I just went to the academy and

810
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:56.480
<v Speaker 7>stuff and just did all that. But yeah, one day

811
00:35:56.480 --> 00:35:58.199
<v Speaker 7>when that ure you are you are you?

812
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:00.719
<v Speaker 4>Are you trying to be a firefighter? Is that what

813
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:01.199
<v Speaker 4>you want to do?

814
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:03.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's my Yeah, that's my That's gonna be my Uh,

815
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:06.320
<v Speaker 7>that's gonna be my goal here when i'm that.

816
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:07.719
<v Speaker 6>Was always my Goalieve when I was done.

817
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:10.599
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, when I was doing the US and stuff those

818
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:12.079
<v Speaker 7>two years I did, wasn't playing football.

819
00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:12.400
<v Speaker 6>That's I.

820
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:17.079
<v Speaker 4>Tell you what. Watching you play, that's a perfect job

821
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:17.760
<v Speaker 4>for you. Man.

822
00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:21.519
<v Speaker 5>I can just imagine you busting through some window, carrying

823
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:24.960
<v Speaker 5>some kid out of a burning room and then and

824
00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:27.639
<v Speaker 5>then with a big grin on your face, jumping back

825
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:30.639
<v Speaker 5>in you know anybody good good luck to you man

826
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:32.000
<v Speaker 5>on getting that done.

827
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:35.800
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, no, I appreciate that. It'll be really Cool'm excited

828
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:36.079
<v Speaker 6>for it.

829
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:36.679
<v Speaker 4>Right. Great.

830
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:39.360
<v Speaker 1>And you said Steve is fighting? Where's he fighting? Maybe

831
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:40.199
<v Speaker 1>I tracked him down?

832
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:44.000
<v Speaker 6>Uh he he uh he fights in Phoenix a lot.

833
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:45.440
<v Speaker 6>You think he trains.

834
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:47.760
<v Speaker 7>At the gym the lab last time I talked to him,

835
00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:49.840
<v Speaker 7>But uh, okay.

836
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:53.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he's uh yeah he does, he does. Remember Chris Putton.

837
00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:57.480
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, So him and Chris Putton had had a

838
00:36:57.559 --> 00:36:58.440
<v Speaker 7>kickboxing match.

839
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:02.599
<v Speaker 4>Wow, oh wow, and who came out who came out of?

840
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:03.880
<v Speaker 4>All right?

841
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:07.199
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, I think I think girl I got the case.

842
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wouldn't touch it. I wouldn't even be in

843
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:10.320
<v Speaker 1>the same room with him. Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't be

844
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:14.840
<v Speaker 1>in the same room with him. Okay, Hey, Scoob, just

845
00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:18.760
<v Speaker 1>don't piss him off. Exactly, Scoop, thanks so much for

846
00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:22.320
<v Speaker 1>joining us, man be well yeah, thanks.

847
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:23.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, no doubt, Thank you guys for having me. I

848
00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:23.480
<v Speaker 6>appreciate it.

849
00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:26.280
<v Speaker 1>All right, great, great, Scooby, right, man, one of the

850
00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:28.039
<v Speaker 1>best guys in the last ten twelve years here.

851
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:30.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean got watching that too, But.

852
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:32.639
<v Speaker 5>You just said it's just fun watching him play because

853
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:35.280
<v Speaker 5>he was always around the ball, always working hard, always

854
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<v Speaker 5>who's this guy in there, Scooby.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, didn't matter where the ball was, he was there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sure a few parents named their kids or

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<v Speaker 1>Scooby this middle name.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name, Scooby? Where'd you get that in here?

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you My dad loved this guy who played football?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, exactly, yeah, all right, let's take a break,

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, welcome back to Winning the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, in with the Days,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Quinn and Olsol Henry. So we get about to Tolovines,

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<v Speaker 1>Covin's buck Colvintes. Okay, I want to bring up this point.

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<v Speaker 1>It was good to talk to Scooby. Still kind of

922
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<v Speaker 1>a quiet dude, kind of doesn't say a whole lot, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of you get a prior information from him.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know about Steve, but I did know

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<v Speaker 1>he was kind of trying to be a firefighter. I

926
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<v Speaker 1>already thought he was MT.

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<v Speaker 4>Dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine you're kind of getting rescued by this dude, didn't you?

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<v Speaker 6>Are you?

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<v Speaker 4>Aren't you? Aren't you looking up? Aren't you that guy? Scooby?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that you? Excuse me? Is that you so?

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<v Speaker 2>So?

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<v Speaker 1>Petere Rose who had breaking news just a few moments ago,

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<v Speaker 1>a few minutes ago, and he was those one of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys that we were talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, and maybe I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was speaking out of turn, but the Tom brady Ish,

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<v Speaker 1>the Michael Jordan's, uh, those types of guys that made

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<v Speaker 1>you play better only because he was playing his ass

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<v Speaker 1>off or perceived to be right, and you didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to It was kind of through usmosis.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you didn't want to let him down. Yeah, there's

943
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<v Speaker 4>the thing about it.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it's like, with his intensity and his drive,

945
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<v Speaker 5>you didn't want to be the guy that wasn't doing that.

946
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<v Speaker 4>We pulling your weight right? Yeah?

947
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<v Speaker 5>And uh, uh drove that they had a lot of

948
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<v Speaker 5>guys on that team. Joe Morgan was the same way,

949
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<v Speaker 5>had been that big Red Johnny bench the same way

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<v Speaker 5>on that big Redmage, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Whole team, and I can name him, you know at

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<v Speaker 1>their face people concepts you own Morgan, Tony par Is bench,

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<v Speaker 1>Geronimo Foster, Foster, Who's right? Was it Griffy Griffy Griffy

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<v Speaker 1>And there's your starting lineup. Don Gullet, Don Gullet, pet

955
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<v Speaker 1>Darcy played for them, our local guy playing Darcy. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the bar bone. Look, I'm sixty years old

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't remember two days ago, but I can

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<v Speaker 1>remember that.

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<v Speaker 5>Because the last time I was a fan in the seventies. Yeah, yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 5>but I'll tell you what I mean. It was a

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<v Speaker 5>it was an amazing team. Uh and uh, you know

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<v Speaker 5>Rose is a big part of that obviously. It's just

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<v Speaker 5>kind of yeah, it was kind of crazy. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 5>you know we were talking about this. Uh you had

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<v Speaker 5>to be. You're a couple of years older than me,

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<v Speaker 5>a couple of.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I think I think, uh Clemente passed the seventy.

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<v Speaker 5>Two ish, Yeah, yeah, so I remember when Clemente passed away.

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<v Speaker 5>Now I don't remember a lot about him playing, but

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<v Speaker 5>I remember the day that he passed away. That was

971
00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:58.639
<v Speaker 5>kind of a that was a real big deal, especially

972
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<v Speaker 5>with he was delivering Puerto Rican he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was good service, he was I think he was

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<v Speaker 1>the delivering, delivering, good humanitarian humanitarian.

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<v Speaker 5>As a matter of fact, the gosh, I just read

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<v Speaker 5>an article. I can't remember the the wasn't as he Gan,

977
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<v Speaker 5>one of his teammates, was the only one that didn't

978
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<v Speaker 5>go to the funeral. And the reason why is because

979
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<v Speaker 5>he was diving in shark infester waters looking for Clement's body.

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<v Speaker 1>Really well, so him and then and then the Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan obviously those type of iconic guys the death and

982
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:34.559
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about this Thurman Munson, Thurman Munson another one,

983
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<v Speaker 1>uh that really made, you know, force the team to

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<v Speaker 1>play right right, Hey, we got a call here. You're

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<v Speaker 1>on the air and I on the ball.

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<v Speaker 17>Hey, guys, what's up is Vick?

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<v Speaker 6>Vick?

988
00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:44.239
<v Speaker 4>What's up? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 17>Well, for the first time seeing a long time, I

990
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:50.159
<v Speaker 17>was one of the ones that can say, honestly say

991
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<v Speaker 17>I I stuck with him.

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00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:55.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you the football team, the.

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00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:57.320
<v Speaker 4>Football team, Yeah you weren't, did you.

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00:43:57.480 --> 00:43:59.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think he went negative one time with me.

995
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:02.800
<v Speaker 17>Was just a little bit worried about Noah when he

996
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<v Speaker 17>was kind of all over the place, and I was

997
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:07.880
<v Speaker 17>gonna ask you, guys, he uh, I kind of tried

998
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<v Speaker 17>to watch without the ball, and you can't tell on TV, obviously,

999
00:44:11.079 --> 00:44:13.880
<v Speaker 17>but I thought he missed a lot of wide open guys.

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00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:17.440
<v Speaker 17>I saw Burnett open a couple of times downfield, Patterson

1001
00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:20.440
<v Speaker 17>kind of wide open, and he he didn't make his

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<v Speaker 17>reads or just you know, and I don't know enough

1003
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:26.920
<v Speaker 17>about football, but it just seemed like he he wasn't

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00:44:26.960 --> 00:44:29.039
<v Speaker 17>playing well. He didn't play his best game, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:33.760
<v Speaker 5>The uh that one, the interception that he threw at

1007
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<v Speaker 5>the end of the third quarter, uh.

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00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:38.679
<v Speaker 17>Oh, he had on Burnette wide open.

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<v Speaker 5>Right misforcing team Matt and uh now it was clearly

1010
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<v Speaker 5>passionate inference.

1011
00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:44.880
<v Speaker 4>But regardless if he.

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<v Speaker 5>Had thrown thrown the Burnett, as you mentioned, it was

1013
00:44:48.119 --> 00:44:49.360
<v Speaker 5>wide open for a touchdown.

1014
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:50.880
<v Speaker 4>I saw that.

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00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:54.480
<v Speaker 17>I definitely definitely saw that. I was actually watching on

1016
00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:56.719
<v Speaker 17>that play and he did have him wide open over

1017
00:44:56.719 --> 00:44:58.800
<v Speaker 17>the middle. So I was a little bit worried. And

1018
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:01.079
<v Speaker 17>then I was the one that text you, Steve and

1019
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:04.679
<v Speaker 17>a little bit worried about David that he was kind

1020
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<v Speaker 17>of getting burned, right, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, And that changed I think I think, uh, Noah

1022
00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:10.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't have a good first half. He you know, he

1023
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:11.880
<v Speaker 1>was kind of it, but then he picked it up

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00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:13.440
<v Speaker 1>obviously in the second half, and then and they won

1025
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:15.880
<v Speaker 1>the game. But I don't disagree with you in terms

1026
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:19.320
<v Speaker 1>of him coming through, you know, struggling a little because

1027
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:21.519
<v Speaker 1>people say, what do you talk about? But it's true

1028
00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:23.320
<v Speaker 1>he did struggle in the first half.

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<v Speaker 17>But but the one thing I did want to say,

1030
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:29.760
<v Speaker 17>wash and and you, Steve, I've talked to you a lot,

1031
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:33.440
<v Speaker 17>and I still truly believe in these guys. They're different cats.

1032
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:37.119
<v Speaker 17>They're they're not that that team that that uh that

1033
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:38.920
<v Speaker 17>you can kind of give up on it. And I

1034
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:42.360
<v Speaker 17>think that the team and you guys both kind of

1035
00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:44.360
<v Speaker 17>have to chime in. I think the team had a

1036
00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:49.719
<v Speaker 17>kind of dig, dig within themselves or question themselves. It

1037
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:53.000
<v Speaker 17>wasn't a matter of coaching. I'm sure there was some

1038
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:55.679
<v Speaker 17>tweaks and all that kind of stuff that that coaching

1039
00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:59.199
<v Speaker 17>did have to make, But I Jacob Mono didn't.

1040
00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:00.760
<v Speaker 4>Forget how to play football right now.

1041
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:05.199
<v Speaker 17>You know the line guys, we brought four guys back

1042
00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:07.559
<v Speaker 17>and I knew I just had faith in them that

1043
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:10.199
<v Speaker 17>they were going to pick it up and kind of rediscuss.

1044
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:13.599
<v Speaker 17>I just feel they had to rediscover themselves. It is

1045
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:14.800
<v Speaker 17>a heck of a team.

1046
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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

1047
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<v Speaker 17>One of the guests, I think it was Lamont, said, hey,

1048
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<v Speaker 17>this team.

1049
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<v Speaker 4>Has a lot of talent.

1050
00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:22.880
<v Speaker 17>Right, everybody said, they just had a dig within themselves

1051
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:23.519
<v Speaker 17>and find it.

1052
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:25.360
<v Speaker 1>So you've been a fan for a long time. I

1053
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:29.239
<v Speaker 1>think you you coached too, right at some level baseball baseball,

1054
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:32.239
<v Speaker 1>So now and you know this, I think we talked

1055
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:35.119
<v Speaker 1>about this with with a little bit. Uh, Erizone has

1056
00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:38.119
<v Speaker 1>a hard time with a not adversity, but uh uh,

1057
00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:41.639
<v Speaker 1>they win games, they start thinking highly of themselves and

1058
00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:44.079
<v Speaker 1>that's when the trouble happens. And then I think Mike

1059
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:46.440
<v Speaker 1>brought a good point of every game the rest of the way.

1060
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Could you could you could circle it maybe a win,

1061
00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:52.360
<v Speaker 1>probably not, but it's everything's going to be even moving

1062
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:54.880
<v Speaker 1>on forward. You can just circle an easy win because

1063
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<v Speaker 1>those don't happen.

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<v Speaker 17>But the thing is, we we've never had a cat's

1065
00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:03.800
<v Speaker 17>eye like uh, like t Mac and Noah's leaders and

1066
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:07.400
<v Speaker 17>Manu as leaders. These guys are different in character. I've

1067
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:10.920
<v Speaker 17>seen them since high school. They're just a different breed man.

1068
00:47:11.480 --> 00:47:14.599
<v Speaker 17>They were brought up different. They they they're made different.

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<v Speaker 17>So so I'm not. That's why I never wavered, even and.

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00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:21.079
<v Speaker 4>I lost to Kansas State. I can't.

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00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:24.159
<v Speaker 17>I told all my boys this whole week, we're gonna win.

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00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:27.159
<v Speaker 17>My nephew tech me three times. What makes you what?

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00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:28.880
<v Speaker 17>What have you seen that makes you think they're gonna

1074
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<v Speaker 17>win this game? And I'm like, I just never wavered.

1075
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:35.400
<v Speaker 17>I feel like they're just gonna get better and better.

1076
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:38.079
<v Speaker 17>Like I said, we we just haven't had a cat

1077
00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:43.199
<v Speaker 17>like like like uh Noah as a quarterback and he

1078
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:44.800
<v Speaker 17>leads this team by example.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, right, Yeah, yeah, I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thanks Vic.

1081
00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:51.519
<v Speaker 17>Okay, we'll see you guys. That way I saw I

1082
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:55.039
<v Speaker 17>was gonna be waiting all day uh Thursday at the casino.

1083
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<v Speaker 17>Thank god you told me next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Just save your money, save your pennies years for for

1085
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:01.280
<v Speaker 1>next week.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, you got it. We'll see you guys. Thanks for calling.

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<v Speaker 1>So this going? He makes I No one didn't have

1088
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:10.039
<v Speaker 1>a good first game first half, and then he came

1089
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<v Speaker 1>the second half.

1090
00:48:11.320 --> 00:48:14.639
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, obviously did better than the second half. And you know,

1091
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:17.079
<v Speaker 5>throwing the receivers and they catch the ball, you know

1092
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:18.400
<v Speaker 5>you're a good quarterback.

1093
00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Pitch and catch baby. I mean, yeah, yeah, you know

1094
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:22.400
<v Speaker 1>right right. But you're a better coach when the better

1095
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:23.280
<v Speaker 1>guys play better.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah exactly, but I mean he did, he did miss

1097
00:48:26.480 --> 00:48:29.159
<v Speaker 5>a couple of open receivers. He is staring at t

1098
00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:34.039
<v Speaker 5>Mac a lot, but heck, I would you know. I mean, uh,

1099
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:36.519
<v Speaker 5>the other team is going to start really focusing on

1100
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:39.639
<v Speaker 5>t Mac a lot more to getting the getting the

1101
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:41.840
<v Speaker 5>tight ends involved. I think are gonna is gonna be

1102
00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:44.480
<v Speaker 5>a real big deal. And the way we're going to

1103
00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:46.559
<v Speaker 5>do this, I'm really surprised we're not throwing the ball

1104
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:48.719
<v Speaker 5>out to the out of the backfield more.

1105
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Out of the backfield. Out of the backfield too. Yeah,

1106
00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:54.280
<v Speaker 1>well speed speed baby. I don't know, we'll soon see.

1107
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:57.599
<v Speaker 1>It's four games in, there's two lots left in this Yeah,

1108
00:48:57.800 --> 00:48:59.440
<v Speaker 1>so this go if it could go back, Okay, so

1109
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<v Speaker 1>Thurman Lone, Yeah, I'm just kind of thinking just out

1110
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:05.519
<v Speaker 1>of the box. Now. Uh, Kobe, when he passed, you

1111
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:06.519
<v Speaker 1>know who you were.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, Kobe, Kobe wasn't playing. I mean he was

1113
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:11.119
<v Speaker 5>done playing. But you know he's one of those dudes.

1114
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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely. I remember we've got to

1115
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<v Speaker 5>call Thanks for calling you on the air.

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<v Speaker 18>I Steve, this is done. How you guys doing don

1117
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:23.639
<v Speaker 18>Thanks for calling us up. Hey Mike, thanks for coming

1118
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:24.679
<v Speaker 18>back in today too.

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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate that done. Uh Steven, Steve had locked the door,

1120
00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:29.480
<v Speaker 5>he wouldn't let me in.

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<v Speaker 18>What's on one of the guys to get one of

1122
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:40.360
<v Speaker 18>the guys to make you a key? I'd like to Uh,

1123
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:42.960
<v Speaker 18>I'd like to thank Kyle Whittingham for being such a

1124
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:44.239
<v Speaker 18>evengeful baby.

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<v Speaker 1>So did you think did you think that's a good

1126
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:49.400
<v Speaker 1>take time? Did you did you think after they got

1127
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:51.400
<v Speaker 1>stuffed two times in a row? What are you thinking?

1128
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<v Speaker 1>Because he's thinking, I don't worry. We'll be back here

1129
00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:56.519
<v Speaker 1>and try to score again. It's like this is nothing,

1130
00:49:56.559 --> 00:49:58.119
<v Speaker 1>okay he did to us, So we're gonna be back

1131
00:49:58.159 --> 00:49:59.480
<v Speaker 1>in the score. We're gonna be back in the score

1132
00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:04.360
<v Speaker 1>because look, yeah, I will tell you what I was thinking.

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<v Speaker 18>That first drive was like it was a lot like

1134
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<v Speaker 18>the first round of what was it, Tommy Hearns and

1135
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<v Speaker 18>Marvin Hagler. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean because we were

1136
00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:19.679
<v Speaker 18>getting tackles for loss, they were getting a big play,

1137
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:23.199
<v Speaker 18>we get another tackle for loss, a set, we were

1138
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<v Speaker 18>chasing a quarterback all over so we had we had

1139
00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:32.000
<v Speaker 18>Wilson running and we were taking punches and we were

1140
00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:36.679
<v Speaker 18>giving punches, and then the end of the round, the

1141
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:40.719
<v Speaker 18>end of the round comes and Whittingham goals, goals for

1142
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:43.639
<v Speaker 18>it when he's got three in his pocket. It's a

1143
00:50:43.639 --> 00:50:47.719
<v Speaker 18>long game, dude. You you still have fifty four minutes

1144
00:50:47.719 --> 00:50:50.840
<v Speaker 18>to go. It's a long game. You got to put

1145
00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:52.119
<v Speaker 18>those points in your pocket.

1146
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:53.599
<v Speaker 4>What do you do?

1147
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:57.400
<v Speaker 18>You go for it, Stuke stuffs it, and then you

1148
00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:00.639
<v Speaker 18>did it again on the next drive you had. I

1149
00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:05.159
<v Speaker 18>think I think that's why Utah lost. Had they played

1150
00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:07.840
<v Speaker 18>had they played it straight and taken both of those

1151
00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:11.480
<v Speaker 18>field goals, that that's not a six point difference. It's

1152
00:51:11.519 --> 00:51:14.239
<v Speaker 18>not twenty three to sixteen because we don't know what happened,

1153
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:19.360
<v Speaker 18>because because because the offense gets a charge, don't say momentum.

1154
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:24.920
<v Speaker 18>You can't say momentum sae. But but but you know,

1155
00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:29.599
<v Speaker 18>I was pumped at the house watching that and and

1156
00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:33.960
<v Speaker 18>I'm thinking, dude, and I thought, bro, and I'm thinking

1157
00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:37.719
<v Speaker 18>in my head, if we score anything, we're going to

1158
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:40.639
<v Speaker 18>be off and running. And we didn't quite get and

1159
00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:43.039
<v Speaker 18>we didn't quite get to you know, thirty eight points

1160
00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:47.480
<v Speaker 18>or whatever. But that game was in hand almost from

1161
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:52.639
<v Speaker 18>that point because our line, our line dominated their lines,

1162
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:55.840
<v Speaker 18>both sides. I mean we we just outplayed them in

1163
00:51:55.880 --> 00:51:56.599
<v Speaker 18>every facet.

1164
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<v Speaker 1>Don we got to go. Thanks for them the two hours.

1165
00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:00.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1166
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:03.039
<v Speaker 1>Thanks, We'll talk to you tomorrow. Don appreciate you. Look

1167
00:52:03.079 --> 00:52:07.639
<v Speaker 1>for Hey, We're done pretty much. I got I got

1168
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:09.559
<v Speaker 1>Henry giving me the flash sign. They got it go.

1169
00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:13.199
<v Speaker 1>It went quick, very quick. Good show today. Unfortunately he

1170
00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:16.360
<v Speaker 1>rose past during the show. But we'll talk more about

1171
00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:20.679
<v Speaker 1>thank you because of this. No, no, sure would because okay,

1172
00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:22.880
<v Speaker 1>thanks thanks to Jay for calling in. Thanks for the guests,

1173
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:25.199
<v Speaker 1>really good guests to be in in the month. So

1174
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<v Speaker 1>we'll see you guys tomorrow. Talk to you tomorrow.
