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Speaker 1: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera eas Mike in today
Speaker 1: with I guess post, and now we have Henry with
Speaker 1: breaking news.
Speaker 2: This is the Ball, Breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 3: Desert Diamond Arena and Arizona Athletics have mutually agreed that
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four Red Blue Showcase in Glendale on
Speaker 3: October eleventh will be postponed until next year.
Speaker 4: Not a shock to me.
Speaker 1: I thought this was going to come at some point
Speaker 1: today or yesterday or someday, because I don't think the
Speaker 1: ticket sales are.
Speaker 4: Going very well.
Speaker 1: One and two, I think circumstances of other things going
Speaker 1: up in the valley kind of dictated this. It was
Speaker 1: a great idea, I thought. In fact, someone texted me
Speaker 1: ten minutes ago thinking that the thing was a bad
Speaker 1: idea because it's in issue country. But it's not really
Speaker 1: an Asian country. It's in Glendale, up up near Vegas.
Speaker 1: You know, you've driven up there. It's just way up
Speaker 1: there that direction. Arizona needs. This is what I thought
Speaker 1: when they first announced it. That was a pretty good idea.
Speaker 1: They need money, right, They need money, Whether it's I
Speaker 1: and I l money or otherwise, and why not, right,
Speaker 1: if you get ten thousand people in that arena, there's
Speaker 1: some women. Whatever the price we're gonna pay. But now
Speaker 1: I'm not shocked either.
Speaker 5: Well, I will tell you, Glendale, it's one thing to
Speaker 5: draw you know, NFL teams or you know college football
Speaker 5: playoff team fans to Glendale, But you're not going to
Speaker 5: get that many fans out of Glendale. No, I mean,
Speaker 5: I quite honestly, I think that you'd have a better
Speaker 5: shot doing it, uh doing it downtown Phoenix.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of ag no question, no question, or
Speaker 1: at arena like well, I don't even know what the
Speaker 1: arena would be. But not too far up you know,
Speaker 1: there's ye, there's there's a lot of Arizona alums there
Speaker 1: up there, right, we can acknowledge that. But but they're
Speaker 1: also they they're thirsty for maybe more than just red blue, right, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: and they go to games like for regular season in games.
Speaker 1: But hey, hey, Mildred, you want to go across the
Speaker 1: town to go see the Red Blue game?
Speaker 5: And let's let's take an hour and twenty minute drive
Speaker 5: to Glendale.
Speaker 1: Right, just might as well just come down to Duson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's just how it is. It's unfortunate. Sure, not
Speaker 1: surprising to me. Yeah, yeah, it was kind of. It
Speaker 1: was interesting.
Speaker 5: When I saw it, I was like, I was like, oh, hey,
Speaker 5: this would be oh wait a minute, where Glendale right right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not doing that. Yeah, yeah, Footprint.
Speaker 5: I think they they may not have sold out footprint,
Speaker 5: but they would have had a better crew, and I
Speaker 5: think they would have had a better crowd.
Speaker 4: And that's more of a.
Speaker 1: How can I say this, more of a central part
Speaker 1: for Arizona Arizona fans. Sure, and there's a bunch of
Speaker 1: there's no question. Yeah, I think there's plenty. There'd have
Speaker 1: been enough. Yeah, right. Of course, footprint is probably a
Speaker 1: lot more expensive to use.
Speaker 4: To Carrio.
Speaker 3: Davis was named the Big twelve Defensive Player of the Week.
Speaker 4: He had five past difflections in the game.
Speaker 1: Were you I'm I'm disappointed that Matt wasn't here because
Speaker 1: you saw you saw the read right, We're we all
Speaker 1: got to get right. Well, we were on the thread
Speaker 1: and uh you Matt, Jay and me and I'm listening
Speaker 1: because I don't want to get in both of this.
Speaker 1: Uh and Jay Jay was saying he's making some money tonight,
Speaker 1: which he very well could, because there's some thoughts that
Speaker 1: he could be a high round draft picker. Maybe not,
Speaker 1: and and Matt, I don't want to speak for Mat,
Speaker 1: but what's Matt thinking. No, no, that he's not going
Speaker 1: to be right. There's some questions about his ability and
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Uh.
Speaker 4: They tested him and he showed up. He looked whole world.
Speaker 5: I mean, they went at him fourth down and they said,
Speaker 5: it's like going, Okay, you're gonna they put that that
Speaker 5: that big tight end. He was out on that big
Speaker 5: tight end on that one fourth down play, which I
Speaker 5: think that that play might have to your point earlier,
Speaker 5: it might have changed the game. On that big fourth
Speaker 5: downboard down, he just stocked. He just knocked it away
Speaker 5: the uh as a sick as a six fourth corner
Speaker 5: and you don't run into six fourk and you're good
Speaker 5: and you're good and you're good.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So this is what I thought, because I watched some
Speaker 1: of it early, all of it. Actually I was getting
Speaker 1: text God singers destroying us, the singers destroying us, and
Speaker 1: they were talking about you know, he was guests beating Davis.
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden he wasn't and then
Speaker 1: Davis had this game. So it depends on the throw,
Speaker 1: depends on the moment. Yeah, well, I guess you know.
Speaker 1: It depends on how you do and where an acted down.
Speaker 1: He seemed to have good position.
Speaker 5: Now when they scored that touchdown at the start of
Speaker 5: the fourth quarter on that long on that long pass play,
Speaker 5: he looked a little out of position. Well, he looked
Speaker 5: a lot out of position. He was way off the
Speaker 5: receiver and the receiver got had a pretty uh had
Speaker 5: a pretty easy catch, catch and throw.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: Now, you know, take one look at me and you
Speaker 5: realize that I don't play a lot of cornerback. I mean,
Speaker 5: I don't even play cornerback when we're playing touch football.
Speaker 5: But I will say this, like the plays that he made,
Speaker 5: he was right on those guys.
Speaker 4: They were making those cuts.
Speaker 3: The MLB playoff match have been announced for the Al Tigers,
Speaker 3: Astras and Royals Orioles that will be starting tomorrow. The
Speaker 3: Mets Braves game is happening right now. The Mets one
Speaker 3: game one and they clenched and the Braves are leading
Speaker 3: three nothing, and we'll clench with a win to eliminate
Speaker 3: the Diamondbacks.
Speaker 1: Wow, that was right. Right. So I watched the Diamonds
Speaker 1: this out of curiosity over the weekend, and I think
Speaker 1: it was Saturday's game when they was there tied going
Speaker 1: in to the ninth, I think it was zero zero,
Speaker 1: and then they gave up five runs and then think,
Speaker 1: oh this is over, and then they still have hope.
Speaker 1: They had hope going into today, right.
Speaker 4: They needed one of the teams to sweep the other
Speaker 4: to sweet the other.
Speaker 1: Right, so well, a heck of a heck of another
Speaker 1: heck of a run, but not good in them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like just short. Yeah.
Speaker 3: There are two Monday night football games this week, the
Speaker 3: Titians at Dolphins at four point thirty and the Seahawks
Speaker 3: at Lions at five point fifteen.
Speaker 4: What's up of your Dolphins? I don't know. They're terrible. Well,
Speaker 4: they don't have a quarterback.
Speaker 5: Okay, so they they put all their money in on Tua,
Speaker 5: which you know is like going not blying a glass
Speaker 5: figurine for you know, don't touch it, forty million, break it,
Speaker 5: you must pay for it. Don't ever touch this. You know,
Speaker 5: I have a house full of kids and a big
Speaker 5: glass sculpture, so you know, and once, once, they lost too.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 4: That is the other thing.
Speaker 5: I mean, they've dumped a lot of money into receivers.
Speaker 5: They got Waddle that that they just got an extension to.
Speaker 5: They got to Hill that they gave a huge extension to.
Speaker 5: They got two of that they gave. They got cornerbacks,
Speaker 5: they gave extension to. What they lack are linemen and
Speaker 5: linebackers particularly. They got great running backs, no offensive line.
Speaker 1: How's that million dollar house that you have no prediction,
Speaker 1: no security for?
Speaker 5: Right, It's like geez, Louise, it's a you know, they
Speaker 5: haven't you know, they haven't built. Now you look at
Speaker 5: a team like Houston, Houston has built.
Speaker 4: You know, they were.
Speaker 5: Good, awful, I mean terrible, which is why they got
Speaker 5: so many early draft picks. But they built their line.
Speaker 5: And then after they built their line, now they've got
Speaker 5: draft picks. Now they picked up uh c J. Stroud
Speaker 5: and uh Harry who's that? Who's their defensive guy that
Speaker 5: they that they.
Speaker 4: Got on, uh Daniel Hunter. Yeah, they and you know,
Speaker 4: so it's like I love kids.
Speaker 5: They know all that exactly, and so it's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: they're uh that's the thing that they that they that
Speaker 5: they did. Dolphins did it. The other way, and I don't,
Speaker 5: and I think they're going to pay the price. Okay,
Speaker 5: they got Huntley his quarterback today, so at least they
Speaker 5: are trying something. We'll see what, We'll see how that
Speaker 5: all goes.
Speaker 3: Hall of Famer to Kemy Matumba was announced dead today
Speaker 3: at age fifty eight due to brain cancer.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: I saw that, you know, the shaking of the finger guy,
Speaker 1: A good player, Georgetown product. Uh you know, one of
Speaker 1: those guys, A lovable guy.
Speaker 5: Yes, very lovable. I mean he was very popular in
Speaker 5: the NBA. No no, no, no, no no. Uh yeah
Speaker 5: uh and even after that, I mean he was he
Speaker 5: was popular and a great ambassador for the sport.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: Uh uh.
Speaker 4: It's a terrible loss at early early age.
Speaker 5: Brain tumors are a terrible thing.
Speaker 3: The Arizona b y U game time for October twelfth
Speaker 3: has been announced for one pm.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's yeah. Is that Friday?
Speaker 4: What did its Saturday? Saturdays? Twelfth? Twelve? Okay?
Speaker 1: I saw eleventh? I think, how why are you playing
Speaker 1: on Friday? No, No, twelve, that's perfect, that's good weather,
Speaker 1: game o'clock game. How often does that happen?
Speaker 4: I know?
Speaker 5: Exac October when when you said one o'clock. I thought
Speaker 5: you meant am. I figured that's the one AM slot
Speaker 5: that they gave us. Yeah, we get we get some
Speaker 5: horrible game times. Man, it's like sit there and go, oh, okay, well,
Speaker 5: you know, maybe it's.
Speaker 1: Hot and I guess eight pm, and I guess the
Speaker 1: b YU does not play well or historically play well
Speaker 1: during the day. So there's another thing there. You go.
Speaker 3: Good, the Braves just officially won, so they're going to
Speaker 3: be playing the Padres and the Mets are going to
Speaker 3: be playing the Brewers. Yeah what so again, so the
Speaker 3: Braves are playing the Padres and the Mets are playing
Speaker 3: the Brewers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, okay, what a bummer, I mean, what a
Speaker 1: way to lose?
Speaker 4: How well?
Speaker 5: How much you follow the Diamondback I actually don't follow
Speaker 5: the Diamondbacks very much, okay, but they are hometown team
Speaker 5: and be there was a lot. It was pretty exciting
Speaker 5: last year when they when they won, you know, so
Speaker 5: I can't say they're my team though.
Speaker 4: That's all I got.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, that was good. That was quick, Senior.
Speaker 1: I gotta go find some stuff now. Let's see what
Speaker 1: the what we have? What we have going on in
Speaker 1: the world. The sports. I haven't looked because maybe we
Speaker 1: should have talked more.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the uh, I think the NFL games were interesting,
Speaker 5: you know the uh.
Speaker 1: The game last night Baltimore and Buffalo. That was as
Speaker 1: that was an easy donal. He's playing out of his mind.
Speaker 1: He is out of his mind. Let me tell you this.
Speaker 1: You're you're a bid guyot, You're a bid wed guy.
Speaker 1: He's a buddy of yours, right, can I say that bidwell?
Speaker 1: I know him, Okay, I know him. Okay, Well you
Speaker 1: may breaking broken bread time or two. Uh I did
Speaker 1: that's franchise. It's just crap. Uh and Murray and we've
Speaker 1: had we've had the guys up in poenis talking about Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's good. I don't see it. Maybe my eyes and
Speaker 1: my my tomic dressed screw will be over, but I don't.
Speaker 4: See it dead no way weally.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 1: Wow, let me say this because you to me, Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm a little shocked because one, I have a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff because I thought he was fantastic growing up.
Speaker 1: Uh wow, you know one of the last pictures. In fact,
Speaker 1: I saw some stuff over the weekend pictures just as
Speaker 1: normal how he looked.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: And then but before that I had seen him very thin,
Speaker 1: very finished and not frail, but thinner than what he
Speaker 1: used to be because he was a thicker guy, right, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: he was. I think he's been ill. He had been ill.
Speaker 1: Didn't say so that'll come out, you said, eighty three.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my mom's but no, yeah, but no, my mom
Speaker 1: wasn't older. She wasn't old and she was so there
Speaker 1: are people that get old at ages.
Speaker 4: I am. I've never well, that's.
Speaker 5: Crazy to talk about an icon from our yeah, of
Speaker 5: our past, is like, right, well, the question comes now
Speaker 5: and you know, maybe too early for talking about this.
Speaker 4: But does he now? Does he get in? Wow? Wow?
Speaker 5: You know it's like it probably ever happened when you're alive, Pete. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and you're not going to see it. You know you're
Speaker 5: not going to see it. The question is, yeah, I
Speaker 5: want to know what happened because he he looked thin,
Speaker 5: thinner than what he had been. He was always a
Speaker 5: staple in Vegas, you know, signing his autographs and YadA YadA. Uh,
Speaker 5: and you can't the one thing you can't take away
Speaker 5: from him, And I'm sure people won't agree with me.
Speaker 5: He was a heck of a player. He was a
Speaker 5: heck of a player. I mean, you know, I mean
Speaker 5: he was a tremendous hitter. I mean he won, you know,
Speaker 5: obviously the hits leader. Yeah, he was, you know, Charlie
Speaker 5: Hossell obviously. I mean to see him run down the
Speaker 5: first base every Uh yeah, Well, I have a I
Speaker 5: have a very very good friend of mine, Rick and
Speaker 5: in uh in southern California. I grew up with it.
Speaker 5: Just loved him and did everything he did. And uh yeah,
Speaker 5: he uh I've you know, talk about my team. Uh
Speaker 5: my team was the Reds is the Reds still is?
Speaker 4: Okay? Mine mine too growing up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's a you know what a staple on
Speaker 5: the big Red machine that he was. Uh wow, that's
Speaker 5: something else. Yeah, I think were lost in the Sport's
Speaker 5: talk more about this when we can take some calls.
Speaker 5: But let me ask you Kevin Porter Junior too. I
Speaker 5: guess he's in a camp this summer and the Clippers
Speaker 5: they're giving him a chance. Whether the NBA gives him
Speaker 5: a chance or not, we'll see. He was the kid
Speaker 5: and you probably know off the top of your head
Speaker 5: he gambled on something.
Speaker 4: He was gambling on.
Speaker 3: Something that's John te a different person. Okay, Kevin Porter
Speaker 3: was assault charge?
Speaker 1: Please you right, please you get to a saw in charge. Okay,
Speaker 1: so he's a different Kevin Porter junior. So we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens with that. And okay, yeah, wow, well I'm
Speaker 1: still a little shocked about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, what did you get that from? That
Speaker 4: was just an alert Twitter alert about it?
Speaker 5: Okay, icon of sports man right there.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: In fact, I was gonna say, just on the top
Speaker 1: of my head, who growing up? Who's your guy growing up?
Speaker 1: Who is good? Whether it's football, basketball?
Speaker 5: Right? Well, I always love King Griffy, you know, your
Speaker 5: senior senor senior because he was a teammate at Pete Rose.
Speaker 5: He was a teammate at p Rose. Uh, he was
Speaker 5: on the Big Red Machine. I just thought he was
Speaker 5: a class act. I just I loved his style and demeanor.
Speaker 5: He wasn't the greatest player on that team, no, they
Speaker 5: they had a lot of great players on the team,
Speaker 5: but Ken Griffy was always was always my uh favorite guy?
Speaker 1: Who who are yours growing up? I mean you're still
Speaker 1: kind of growing up?
Speaker 3: Favorite athletes? Yeah, I don't know. I didn't really have
Speaker 3: like a favorite athlete.
Speaker 4: I didn't have a favorite baseball player. I mean that
Speaker 4: was the Yankees Fance. I guess everyone like Jeters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone. I liked his lineup with his with his girlfriend.
Speaker 5: That was just the Jeter is the free space on
Speaker 5: a Bengo card for you know, who's your favorite player
Speaker 5: for that generation?
Speaker 4: Right? So he was unbelievable, but.
Speaker 1: So mine growing up if it wasn't Pete Rea, Muhammad Ali,
Speaker 1: you know, watching him growing up, but it was the
Speaker 1: funny thing.
Speaker 4: Did you see the stuff.
Speaker 1: With Mayfield and uh and uh and uh, Brady, did
Speaker 1: you hear that at all?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 5: I heard that Brady Mayfields that his comments were taken
Speaker 5: out of context.
Speaker 1: You know that the Blocker room is a little bit
Speaker 1: more relaxed now than Brady was there. He was intense
Speaker 1: and made things a little uncomfortable. Yeah. Yeah, but I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: and I'll apply this to you. I met you thirty
Speaker 1: some years ago. Someone introduced me to you. They needed
Speaker 1: a player, a softball player that came on board. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think I was a halfway decent player. You can
Speaker 1: let me, you can you can rip me whatever you want.
Speaker 1: So so, and you're an intense dude, You're an intense, dude.
Speaker 4: You want to win.
Speaker 1: I get that, so do I. But I'm at a
Speaker 1: different level than you and and you. In order for
Speaker 1: to be one of those guys, the Michael Jordan's, the
Speaker 1: the Kobe Bryants, the Tom Brady, there's a it's not
Speaker 1: a secret that you're you kind of had to be
Speaker 1: a pain in the ass or a really kind of
Speaker 1: high strung dude because it gets everybody else either not upset,
Speaker 1: but kind of a little nervous.
Speaker 4: But it makes you play harder as.
Speaker 5: A as a as a leader on a team, you know,
Speaker 5: especially you know, especially when you're talking about a basketball
Speaker 5: team and there's twelve players the uh, but a football team.
Speaker 5: You have to not accept mediocrity. And that's what it is,
Speaker 5: and that's what it is. It is, it's it's it's
Speaker 5: not just being laid back, it's not just being cool
Speaker 5: and being hip with the guys or anything like that.
Speaker 5: It's about I'm not gonna accept mediocrity. I'll never forget
Speaker 5: this one. Uh, this one player that I worked with
Speaker 5: at Army Football, Ben Kotwica, who is a special teams
Speaker 5: coordinator at for the Denver Broncos now and just a
Speaker 5: great guy.
Speaker 4: The uh he uh.
Speaker 5: I remember after one football game. This was the ten
Speaker 5: and two team that should have beat Auburn uh in
Speaker 5: the independicipal but they after a practice, he was getting
Speaker 5: on the bus and had some guy sit. They're joking
Speaker 5: around after practice, like on a on a Tuesday practice,
Speaker 5: and he just grabbed this kid and shook the heck
Speaker 5: out of him and was like going, you need to
Speaker 5: play better and practice and you need you don't need
Speaker 5: to be laughing it up.
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5: He made sure that everyone on that team knew that
Speaker 5: they were it was time for business.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: And you know what, that locker room was pretty damn
Speaker 5: focused on winning football.
Speaker 1: There's a lot to it. And you used to get
Speaker 1: on me, play harder, play tough or whatever. I don't know.
Speaker 5: Wow, we were I wasn't paying attention to you, guy,
Speaker 5: I understand. Yeah, I know you were popping out to
Speaker 5: second bits. Okay, prev we need a ground out.
Speaker 4: You're in with that. Let's get out of here and
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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back to wying the ball Here Fox Sports
Speaker 1: fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera. In with me is Mike Quinn.
Speaker 1: Now in the phone. We have Scooby, right, Scooby, How
Speaker 1: the heck are you?
Speaker 6: Hey? How are you do doing?
Speaker 4: Scooby? Are you there?
Speaker 6: Yeah? I'm here. Are you gonna think he still?
Speaker 4: Is he still there? I can't hear him?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm here here. Hello, Scooby there? Hello?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Scooby, I can hear you.
Speaker 1: Hey, how are you? And I'm sure you were pretty
Speaker 1: thrilled at least your social media is. After Arizona won
Speaker 1: that big game against Utah, what were your thoughts on that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a huge win. That was a huge game.
Speaker 7: It was always tough coming up seeing how the team
Speaker 7: responds after a loss headed into a bye week. I
Speaker 7: thought that kind of sets the tone a little bit,
Speaker 7: kind of the exposes a lot of things that can
Speaker 7: back kind of correct its course.
Speaker 6: It'll be. It was a huge win for them last week.
Speaker 1: What was the biggest difference that you saw from the
Speaker 1: first three weeks to last week till just you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago.
Speaker 6: To be honest, I missed the Kansas Tate game.
Speaker 7: I was I was at jujitsual practice, but I watched
Speaker 7: a couple of games before, so it was it was cool.
Speaker 6: I mean, they were playing good, They're playing hard.
Speaker 7: It was just it was nice to see them establish
Speaker 7: the run game and kind of keep that going and
Speaker 7: rely on that more.
Speaker 1: M hm, how how this is dumb question, but are
Speaker 1: you still close to the program? Do you keep in
Speaker 1: touch with people?
Speaker 7: Not really, not as much anymore, because, uh, when I
Speaker 7: was the last couple of years, I was more so
Speaker 7: evolved because I was part of the Pactal Alumni Council.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so so.
Speaker 7: I had a I was just more involved than Yeah, no,
Speaker 7: I'm ever since the Big Twelve thing, it's I haven't
Speaker 7: really been involved as much.
Speaker 1: That's a good point because I wonder do they not
Speaker 1: have the same type of thing on the Big Twelve?
Speaker 7: Not really, I mean it is what it is. I
Speaker 7: mean it's all at all. Everybody has new conferences, so
Speaker 7: it's all kind of jumbled up. But yeah, it'll be Uh,
Speaker 7: I'll be there homecoming, so I know that. So I'm
Speaker 7: excited to go to that game.
Speaker 1: A lot of people, a lot of people will be
Speaker 1: You're very excited to see you there, buddy.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the defense, uh, they played out of their mind obviously.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you were great. They were happy to see
Speaker 1: that and great to see Yeah.
Speaker 6: Who is that? I saw that? The defensive back. Can
Speaker 6: you remind me of his name again? I can't remember?
Speaker 4: David car Davis.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, to Caro Davis. He he balled out.
Speaker 7: That guy made some big plays. He was he's a
Speaker 7: big time player. I really like watching that guy play. Then,
Speaker 7: just the D line, the way they are pass queshion
Speaker 7: and just kind of everybody was moving together and that
Speaker 7: kind of kind of that kind of is how a
Speaker 7: successful defense is.
Speaker 6: And all still winders are fire and on the same one,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so the uh, the the defensive line has been
Speaker 5: much aligned because I mean they're just they're not blowing
Speaker 5: people off the ball. They're getting blown back into the linebackers.
Speaker 5: And you as a you as a flowing linebacker, I mean,
Speaker 5: what did what do you say, are you seeing them
Speaker 5: play differently against Utah? I mean how much does his
Speaker 5: defensive line play help as a linebacker?
Speaker 6: I mean defense line play helps a lot.
Speaker 7: I mean I played in a three man front and
Speaker 7: and uh my nose guard was Parkazeller's and and on
Speaker 7: some days I wighed more than him.
Speaker 6: So I know, so I.
Speaker 7: Know, I know all you're talking about with that, with
Speaker 7: that going on, but yeah, I think more so just
Speaker 7: has to do with the linebackers. I mean it makes
Speaker 7: plays hard. But in a lot of defenses and the
Speaker 7: way that issigned, you have a gap. I mean, so
Speaker 7: like say, if you have a one technique and that
Speaker 7: center guard combo steps down. As a linebacker, you're taught
Speaker 7: as soon as they make contact you need to fly
Speaker 7: down hill.
Speaker 6: So it's kind of a two way street between d
Speaker 6: line and getting blown off the ball and then linebacker's
Speaker 6: not playing downhill. So I mean, I could probably take
Speaker 6: a little more look and give you a better answer
Speaker 6: once I know that question.
Speaker 1: So so Jake, Jake Fisher is always on the show
Speaker 1: once a week. He comes on and does this thing
Speaker 1: with his insurance, great insight. He was a teammate of
Speaker 1: yours show when you were younger. Uh, And then he
Speaker 1: he comes around, you come around after him, and now
Speaker 1: they have this another guy who's fantastic man who what's
Speaker 1: your impression of him?
Speaker 6: He's a player, He's a ballhawk.
Speaker 7: I mean he makes plays that he makes plays in
Speaker 7: the blitz, he makes plays in the end game, he
Speaker 7: makes plays the past game. He's kind of a kind
Speaker 7: of a complete player. And the honest it's it's fun
Speaker 7: to watch him play.
Speaker 1: And we'll kind of go back and forth with this
Speaker 1: with you. Uh, you and in all seriousness, you kind
Speaker 1: of typified Arizona football. Then now no one really thought
Speaker 1: much of you. You came in your two star scoob
Speaker 1: and you beat the crap out of people. You must
Speaker 1: have taken a lot of pride in that, because that's
Speaker 1: Arizona football. You show up, no one believes, and then
Speaker 1: you go out and kick some other ass.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean I wanted to go
Speaker 6: to all.
Speaker 7: Those back close schools and they all said I wasn't
Speaker 7: good enough. So whenever time I got the opportunity to
Speaker 7: go punch him in the mouth, I did.
Speaker 1: But do you think do you think that played a
Speaker 1: part on Saturday? Because that happens a lot. What do
Speaker 1: you mean that that Arizona a ten point underdog no
Speaker 1: one thought, and then you go in and you win.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I mean, to be honest, I wish I would have
Speaker 7: put some money on that game because Arizona always crazy.
Speaker 7: Arizona I knew, because I knew that they were going
Speaker 7: to play well, right, I mean, Arizona always plays well
Speaker 7: in Utah. I mean back in my days, we always
Speaker 7: played well against Utah because we would go hurry up,
Speaker 7: and we knew we would get them tired and we
Speaker 7: would those big those big boys, they couldn't they couldn't
Speaker 7: last the whole game with us, We wear them out.
Speaker 7: So I mean that was from my experience back in
Speaker 7: playing in Arizona and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: But like it's like if you can play in Arizona.
Speaker 6: You can play it.
Speaker 7: Anywhere and go play you know what I mean, any
Speaker 7: environment and go be okay, you know, because you just
Speaker 7: have that different mentality.
Speaker 1: No question, you got you, Tevis Fisher. These dudes that
Speaker 1: nobody gives any credit for shows up and and and
Speaker 1: do very well. I mean you said, Arizona football. I
Speaker 1: was with somebody earlier today and says, how did this happen?
Speaker 1: I says, well, having been here for thirty years and
Speaker 1: seeing this every time you tell Arizona players they can't
Speaker 1: they do right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, and Cardia cat there you Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think people are tired of that. Their hearts are
Speaker 1: too old. The alla days. You got to start to
Speaker 1: start getting playing better all the time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I hear you on that, But no, it was
Speaker 7: they played great.
Speaker 6: I think they're only gonna keep getting better.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so the defense, I mean so so they
Speaker 5: played great. And this isn't a this isn't a shot
Speaker 5: at them, and it's not like one of those things
Speaker 5: where it's like, you know, everything's roses, but the but
Speaker 5: here's a thorn. But we're not getting a lot of turnovers.
Speaker 5: And you had mentioned about turnovers.
Speaker 4: What do we need to do.
Speaker 5: What do we need to do differently in order to
Speaker 5: start causing them to cough the ball up on the
Speaker 5: defensive side.
Speaker 6: How many TVs did the Caaro Davis had he had
Speaker 6: seven crass.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well he had eight or five knockdowns? Yeah, five knockdowns?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So say he catches two of those and then they
Speaker 7: get a fumble, yeah, in the game. I think that
Speaker 7: I think that'll work out. I think I think they
Speaker 7: just got to emsist the football.
Speaker 6: That's how you get turnovers.
Speaker 7: I mean, you can be there and make a play
Speaker 7: and knock the football down, but you have to be
Speaker 7: able to come downhill and attack the football and want
Speaker 7: to go. I want to go like you see Travis
Speaker 7: Hunter do it all the time. He attacked the football
Speaker 7: as a wide receiver playing defensive back. I mean, good
Speaker 7: defensive backs are there and they make the play. So
Speaker 7: it'd be cool to see those guys start making make
Speaker 7: a start attacking the ball.
Speaker 1: You know, did you play with Bonderette? I think you did, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was one of those dudes.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I mean there is always a joke between in the defense,
Speaker 7: like the ball the ball levitated towards him so that
Speaker 7: he was it was always fun playing playing with him
Speaker 7: because he knew something that was cool gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Right right, and he always found a way to get
Speaker 1: to the ball. Those type of players are hard to
Speaker 1: find because they kind of have the instinct. You had
Speaker 1: that instinct.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think it just goes back to
Speaker 7: just kind of just want to of just hey, I'm
Speaker 7: going to get there to go make a play, but
Speaker 7: I'm going to go affect the game, you know what
Speaker 7: I mean.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you certainly were you. I mean you
Speaker 5: were you were attacking. I mean, holy moly, you were
Speaker 5: always always motor on, never never took a playoff. So
Speaker 5: how much do you go after the ball, how much
Speaker 5: do you hit the ball out or how much do
Speaker 5: you just focus on tackling.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's all. It's all good back to coaching,
Speaker 6: to be honest.
Speaker 7: I mean back in my days and stuff and Arizona
Speaker 7: Cardinals usfl XL that it was there was always drills
Speaker 7: to do that. Hey, if they're coming out the quarterback,
Speaker 7: take a slip for the ball. Hey, if you're a
Speaker 7: running backer, if you're a linebacker. You got the running
Speaker 7: backs that I paid defensive back coming down from fifteen
Speaker 7: yards deep, you have a better angle to punch out
Speaker 7: the ball. So just kind of little stuff like that
Speaker 7: that just kind of can be coachable and just kind
Speaker 7: of more of a technique thing, I think. I think
Speaker 7: that's more so where Turner's coming to play is when
Speaker 7: it's technique and one too.
Speaker 1: So it's hard to ask you this question because you
Speaker 1: were probably the answer to your own question that I
Speaker 1: would ask who was the best player you played against?
Speaker 1: One and two on your team too, so against and
Speaker 1: then on your team at the time.
Speaker 6: That Arizona. Yeah, who was my favorite player?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, he's the toughest, the toughest, the toughest player.
Speaker 6: Oh, the toughest player. Uh Stephen Garola, Oh he was.
Speaker 1: He was a pain. He was a pain. He even
Speaker 1: got to a fight with rich Ron one day, rich Trod.
Speaker 1: You don't see, yeah, I.
Speaker 7: Mean, I mean rich Rod loved him. But uh yeah,
Speaker 7: he's he's a he's a fighter right now, so I
Speaker 7: mean it makes sense him and oh yeah him and
Speaker 7: came in bundage or came in bundage is not. But
Speaker 7: those two guys they were mean. They like they used
Speaker 7: to beat up a lot of linebackers.
Speaker 6: Defensive lilight but that.
Speaker 7: Just goes back to the mentality of just kind of
Speaker 7: the mentality of those guys had, and it was just
Speaker 7: kind of they were the tone they were the they
Speaker 7: were the quote tone setters of Hey, that's how the
Speaker 7: offensive lineman should be.
Speaker 6: The offensive lineman should be your scariest dude on your team.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, do you remember that? Do you remember that
Speaker 1: time that he and rich Rod and rich rud said
Speaker 1: just get tail out of practice?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he was trying to fight someone.
Speaker 7: And then Richmond, but to be honest with rich Ward
Speaker 7: probably love that that. He just probably didn't want people
Speaker 7: fighting on the field, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Right? No?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 1: So, and the best player that you was? Does Steve
Speaker 1: answer both questions? Who was the best player? Because I
Speaker 1: wanted to go somewhere with.
Speaker 6: This the best player I played againswer.
Speaker 4: Or with and with okay, you can't say you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, probably Tyren Matthew. That was a guy who who
Speaker 7: when I was on the Cardinals for a couple of years,
Speaker 7: I really got to be around and really see him
Speaker 7: play and see how yeah and uh yeah, I really
Speaker 7: just liked the way he played. He was really cool. Yeah,
Speaker 7: and just the way he played and how he disguised
Speaker 7: uff because, like I remember being a young linebacker trying
Speaker 7: to learn the system. Every time in the playbook it
Speaker 7: would be hey, this is X, Y and Z, but
Speaker 7: he would be not, I'm going to do this and
Speaker 7: this is going to be the look and kind of
Speaker 7: the backyard football.
Speaker 6: But he had the right to go do that because
Speaker 6: he was such a good.
Speaker 1: Player right right. Well, recently I asked that question. And
Speaker 1: I've been around the program for a long time. I've
Speaker 1: seen some fantastic players McAllister, so many a Trump, Kennedy,
Speaker 1: all these guys, but Tim mac is a fantastic talent.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you feel the same way.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, he's a I never really paid a
Speaker 7: man too much attention to the offense side. I mean
Speaker 7: I feel like Arizona's historically has had better defensive players.
Speaker 7: Do you think I'm wrong for saying that?
Speaker 4: No? No, no, not at all, risky. Have you had
Speaker 4: a lot of examples of that?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I mean I feel like Arizona hasn't mean that.
Speaker 6: Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 7: Given all the respect to Kadean Carey, he was like
Speaker 7: he's probably someone I probably would have said close second
Speaker 7: player who I played the best player I played with
Speaker 7: in Arizona when I was there, because he yeah, he was,
Speaker 7: he was strong, he was to ask, he worked hard
Speaker 7: in the weight room. I mean like guys like that.
Speaker 7: I mean, he's probably the last big time player I
Speaker 7: would say, no disrespect anybody the Arizona had right right
Speaker 7: on the opposite side.
Speaker 1: Let's ask about you real quick. What are you up
Speaker 1: to these days?
Speaker 6: So I'm just hanging out right now. I'm trying to
Speaker 6: start my EMT programs.
Speaker 7: So I got all my fire fire certificates firefighter for
Speaker 7: one and five fighter too, So that's the hopefully get
Speaker 7: my EMT here, not hopefully going to get my emp
Speaker 7: here by the end of the year. And started flying
Speaker 7: places and just trained a lot of martial arts.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, are you still are you still fighting? Are
Speaker 1: you still doing that?
Speaker 6: Yeah? I had, I'm still training.
Speaker 7: I've had a lot of I've only had a couple
Speaker 7: of pkvs and stuff in a hu jiu jitsu tournaments.
Speaker 7: But I still want to lose another like fifteen pounds
Speaker 7: or so before I start competing.
Speaker 4: So how tough is that?
Speaker 1: Because some of the toughest dudes on the earth yeah,
Speaker 1: are wrestlers or trying.
Speaker 4: To do what you're doing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the guy I trained with, he was
Speaker 7: an All American wrestler, I mean training partner. He was
Speaker 7: an All American wrestler and he was the number one
Speaker 7: amateur in the country for light heavyweight heavyweight. His name
Speaker 7: is Kyle Clark. He's my main trading partner. So like
Speaker 7: like he like he handed to me like both more
Speaker 7: times than not. It's like, yeah, it's hard. I mean
Speaker 7: like today's like today's practice we had it was it
Speaker 7: was brilliant. Like they have a they have a trash
Speaker 7: They have a trash can for me that has a
Speaker 7: shark dog sticker on it.
Speaker 6: I go, we're not open it so much.
Speaker 1: There's those those those wrestlers. Man, they don't know how
Speaker 1: to stop. No, no, their angles, they know everything. There's
Speaker 1: this cunning they beat the crap on you. Well, more
Speaker 1: power to you.
Speaker 6: Have you?
Speaker 1: Let me ask you something because my son's and son's
Speaker 1: a nurse and he was an e er type of
Speaker 1: he's in the r Have you saved the life yet?
Speaker 1: This might be a weird question, but because you guys
Speaker 1: are important.
Speaker 6: No, I haven't saved no last yet.
Speaker 7: And I'm just I just went to the academy and
Speaker 7: stuff and just did all that. But yeah, one day
Speaker 7: when that ure you are you are you?
Speaker 4: Are you trying to be a firefighter? Is that what
Speaker 4: you want to do?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's my Yeah, that's my That's gonna be my Uh,
Speaker 7: that's gonna be my goal here when i'm that.
Speaker 6: Was always my Goalieve when I was done.
Speaker 7: Yeah, when I was doing the US and stuff those
Speaker 7: two years I did, wasn't playing football.
Speaker 6: That's I.
Speaker 4: Tell you what. Watching you play, that's a perfect job
Speaker 4: for you. Man.
Speaker 5: I can just imagine you busting through some window, carrying
Speaker 5: some kid out of a burning room and then and
Speaker 5: then with a big grin on your face, jumping back
Speaker 5: in you know anybody good good luck to you man
Speaker 5: on getting that done.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I appreciate that. It'll be really Cool'm excited
Speaker 6: for it.
Speaker 4: Right. Great.
Speaker 1: And you said Steve is fighting? Where's he fighting? Maybe
Speaker 1: I tracked him down?
Speaker 6: Uh he he uh he fights in Phoenix a lot.
Speaker 6: You think he trains.
Speaker 7: At the gym the lab last time I talked to him,
Speaker 7: But uh, okay.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's uh yeah he does, he does. Remember Chris Putton.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, So him and Chris Putton had had a
Speaker 7: kickboxing match.
Speaker 4: Wow, oh wow, and who came out who came out of?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I think I think girl I got the case.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't touch it. I wouldn't even be in
Speaker 1: the same room with him. Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: in the same room with him. Okay, Hey, Scoob, just
Speaker 1: don't piss him off. Exactly, Scoop, thanks so much for
Speaker 1: joining us, man be well yeah, thanks.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt, Thank you guys for having me. I
Speaker 6: appreciate it.
Speaker 1: All right, great, great, Scooby, right, man, one of the
Speaker 1: best guys in the last ten twelve years here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean got watching that too, But.
Speaker 5: You just said it's just fun watching him play because
Speaker 5: he was always around the ball, always working hard, always
Speaker 5: who's this guy in there, Scooby.
Speaker 4: Yeah, didn't matter where the ball was, he was there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure a few parents named their kids or
Speaker 1: Scooby this middle name.
Speaker 4: Exactly.
Speaker 1: What's your name, Scooby? Where'd you get that in here?
Speaker 1: Where do you My dad loved this guy who played football?
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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back to Winning the Ball here on Fox
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Speaker 1: Mike Quinn and Olsol Henry. So we get about to Tolovines,
Speaker 1: Covin's buck Colvintes. Okay, I want to bring up this point.
Speaker 1: It was good to talk to Scooby. Still kind of
Speaker 1: a quiet dude, kind of doesn't say a whole lot, right,
Speaker 1: It's kind of you get a prior information from him.
Speaker 1: But I don't know about Steve, but I did know
Speaker 1: he was kind of trying to be a firefighter. I
Speaker 1: already thought he was MT.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 1: Imagine you're kind of getting rescued by this dude, didn't you?
Speaker 6: Are you?
Speaker 4: Aren't you? Aren't you looking up? Aren't you that guy? Scooby?
Speaker 4: Is that you? Excuse me? Is that you so?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: Petere Rose who had breaking news just a few moments ago,
Speaker 1: a few minutes ago, and he was those one of
Speaker 1: those guys that we were talking about.
Speaker 4: Uh, and maybe I.
Speaker 1: Was speaking out of turn, but the Tom brady Ish,
Speaker 1: the Michael Jordan's, uh, those types of guys that made
Speaker 1: you play better only because he was playing his ass
Speaker 1: off or perceived to be right, and you didn't want
Speaker 1: to It was kind of through usmosis.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you didn't want to let him down. Yeah, there's
Speaker 4: the thing about it.
Speaker 5: I mean it's like, with his intensity and his drive,
Speaker 5: you didn't want to be the guy that wasn't doing that.
Speaker 4: We pulling your weight right? Yeah?
Speaker 5: And uh, uh drove that they had a lot of
Speaker 5: guys on that team. Joe Morgan was the same way,
Speaker 5: had been that big Red Johnny bench the same way
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Speaker 1: Darcy played for them, our local guy playing Darcy. Uh,
Speaker 1: some of the bar bone. Look, I'm sixty years old
Speaker 1: and I can't remember two days ago, but I can
Speaker 1: remember that.
Speaker 5: Because the last time I was a fan in the seventies. Yeah, yeah, right,
Speaker 5: but I'll tell you what I mean. It was a
Speaker 5: it was an amazing team. Uh and uh, you know
Speaker 5: Rose is a big part of that obviously. It's just
Speaker 5: kind of yeah, it was kind of crazy. Yeah, well,
Speaker 5: you know we were talking about this. Uh you had
Speaker 5: to be. You're a couple of years older than me,
Speaker 5: a couple of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think I think, uh Clemente passed the seventy.
Speaker 5: Two ish, Yeah, yeah, so I remember when Clemente passed away.
Speaker 5: Now I don't remember a lot about him playing, but
Speaker 5: I remember the day that he passed away. That was
Speaker 5: kind of a that was a real big deal, especially
Speaker 5: with he was delivering Puerto Rican he was.
Speaker 1: He was good service, he was I think he was
Speaker 1: the delivering, delivering, good humanitarian humanitarian.
Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, the gosh, I just read
Speaker 5: an article. I can't remember the the wasn't as he Gan,
Speaker 5: one of his teammates, was the only one that didn't
Speaker 5: go to the funeral. And the reason why is because
Speaker 5: he was diving in shark infester waters looking for Clement's body.
Speaker 1: Really well, so him and then and then the Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan obviously those type of iconic guys the death and
Speaker 1: we're talking about this Thurman Munson, Thurman Munson another one,
Speaker 1: uh that really made, you know, force the team to
Speaker 1: play right right, Hey, we got a call here. You're
Speaker 1: on the air and I on the ball.
Speaker 17: Hey, guys, what's up is Vick?
Speaker 6: Vick?
Speaker 4: What's up? What's going on?
Speaker 17: Well, for the first time seeing a long time, I
Speaker 17: was one of the ones that can say, honestly say
Speaker 17: I I stuck with him.
Speaker 1: Yeah you the football team, the.
Speaker 4: Football team, Yeah you weren't, did you.
Speaker 1: I mean I think he went negative one time with me.
Speaker 17: Was just a little bit worried about Noah when he
Speaker 17: was kind of all over the place, and I was
Speaker 17: gonna ask you, guys, he uh, I kind of tried
Speaker 17: to watch without the ball, and you can't tell on TV, obviously,
Speaker 17: but I thought he missed a lot of wide open guys.
Speaker 17: I saw Burnett open a couple of times downfield, Patterson
Speaker 17: kind of wide open, and he he didn't make his
Speaker 17: reads or just you know, and I don't know enough
Speaker 17: about football, but it just seemed like he he wasn't
Speaker 17: playing well. He didn't play his best game, that's for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: The uh that one, the interception that he threw at
Speaker 5: the end of the third quarter, uh.
Speaker 17: Oh, he had on Burnette wide open.
Speaker 5: Right misforcing team Matt and uh now it was clearly
Speaker 5: passionate inference.
Speaker 4: But regardless if he.
Speaker 5: Had thrown thrown the Burnett, as you mentioned, it was
Speaker 5: wide open for a touchdown.
Speaker 4: I saw that.
Speaker 17: I definitely definitely saw that. I was actually watching on
Speaker 17: that play and he did have him wide open over
Speaker 17: the middle. So I was a little bit worried. And
Speaker 17: then I was the one that text you, Steve and
Speaker 17: a little bit worried about David that he was kind
Speaker 17: of getting burned, right, you.
Speaker 1: Know, And that changed I think I think, uh, Noah
Speaker 1: didn't have a good first half. He you know, he
Speaker 1: was kind of it, but then he picked it up
Speaker 1: obviously in the second half, and then and they won
Speaker 1: the game. But I don't disagree with you in terms
Speaker 1: of him coming through, you know, struggling a little because
Speaker 1: people say, what do you talk about? But it's true
Speaker 1: he did struggle in the first half.
Speaker 17: But but the one thing I did want to say,
Speaker 17: wash and and you, Steve, I've talked to you a lot,
Speaker 17: and I still truly believe in these guys. They're different cats.
Speaker 17: They're they're not that that team that that uh that
Speaker 17: you can kind of give up on it. And I
Speaker 17: think that the team and you guys both kind of
Speaker 17: have to chime in. I think the team had a
Speaker 17: kind of dig, dig within themselves or question themselves. It
Speaker 17: wasn't a matter of coaching. I'm sure there was some
Speaker 17: tweaks and all that kind of stuff that that coaching
Speaker 17: did have to make, But I Jacob Mono didn't.
Speaker 4: Forget how to play football right now.
Speaker 17: You know the line guys, we brought four guys back
Speaker 17: and I knew I just had faith in them that
Speaker 17: they were going to pick it up and kind of rediscuss.
Speaker 17: I just feel they had to rediscover themselves. It is
Speaker 17: a heck of a team.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 17: One of the guests, I think it was Lamont, said, hey,
Speaker 17: this team.
Speaker 4: Has a lot of talent.
Speaker 17: Right, everybody said, they just had a dig within themselves
Speaker 17: and find it.
Speaker 1: So you've been a fan for a long time. I
Speaker 1: think you you coached too, right at some level baseball baseball,
Speaker 1: So now and you know this, I think we talked
Speaker 1: about this with with a little bit. Uh, Erizone has
Speaker 1: a hard time with a not adversity, but uh uh,
Speaker 1: they win games, they start thinking highly of themselves and
Speaker 1: that's when the trouble happens. And then I think Mike
Speaker 1: brought a good point of every game the rest of the way.
Speaker 1: Could you could you could circle it maybe a win,
Speaker 1: probably not, but it's everything's going to be even moving
Speaker 1: on forward. You can just circle an easy win because
Speaker 1: those don't happen.
Speaker 17: But the thing is, we we've never had a cat's
Speaker 17: eye like uh, like t Mac and Noah's leaders and
Speaker 17: Manu as leaders. These guys are different in character. I've
Speaker 17: seen them since high school. They're just a different breed man.
Speaker 17: They were brought up different. They they they're made different.
Speaker 17: So so I'm not. That's why I never wavered, even and.
Speaker 4: I lost to Kansas State. I can't.
Speaker 17: I told all my boys this whole week, we're gonna win.
Speaker 17: My nephew tech me three times. What makes you what?
Speaker 17: What have you seen that makes you think they're gonna
Speaker 17: win this game? And I'm like, I just never wavered.
Speaker 17: I feel like they're just gonna get better and better.
Speaker 17: Like I said, we we just haven't had a cat
Speaker 17: like like like uh Noah as a quarterback and he
Speaker 17: leads this team by example.
Speaker 4: Man, right, Yeah, yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks Vic.
Speaker 17: Okay, we'll see you guys. That way I saw I
Speaker 17: was gonna be waiting all day uh Thursday at the casino.
Speaker 17: Thank god you told me next week.
Speaker 1: Just save your money, save your pennies years for for
Speaker 1: next week.
Speaker 4: Okay, you got it. We'll see you guys. Thanks for calling.
Speaker 1: So this going? He makes I No one didn't have
Speaker 1: a good first game first half, and then he came
Speaker 1: the second half.
Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously did better than the second half. And you know,
Speaker 5: throwing the receivers and they catch the ball, you know
Speaker 5: you're a good quarterback.
Speaker 1: Pitch and catch baby. I mean, yeah, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: right right. But you're a better coach when the better
Speaker 1: guys play better.
Speaker 5: Yeah exactly, but I mean he did, he did miss
Speaker 5: a couple of open receivers. He is staring at t
Speaker 5: Mac a lot, but heck, I would you know. I mean, uh,
Speaker 5: the other team is going to start really focusing on
Speaker 5: t Mac a lot more to getting the getting the
Speaker 5: tight ends involved. I think are gonna is gonna be
Speaker 5: a real big deal. And the way we're going to
Speaker 5: do this, I'm really surprised we're not throwing the ball
Speaker 5: out to the out of the backfield more.
Speaker 1: Out of the backfield. Out of the backfield too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well speed speed baby. I don't know, we'll soon see.
Speaker 1: It's four games in, there's two lots left in this Yeah,
Speaker 1: so this go if it could go back, Okay, so
Speaker 1: Thurman Lone, Yeah, I'm just kind of thinking just out
Speaker 1: of the box. Now. Uh, Kobe, when he passed, you
Speaker 1: know who you were.
Speaker 5: I mean, Kobe, Kobe wasn't playing. I mean he was
Speaker 5: done playing. But you know he's one of those dudes.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely. I remember we've got to
Speaker 5: call Thanks for calling you on the air.
Speaker 18: I Steve, this is done. How you guys doing don
Speaker 18: Thanks for calling us up. Hey Mike, thanks for coming
Speaker 18: back in today too.
Speaker 5: I appreciate that done. Uh Steven, Steve had locked the door,
Speaker 5: he wouldn't let me in.
Speaker 18: What's on one of the guys to get one of
Speaker 18: the guys to make you a key? I'd like to Uh,
Speaker 18: I'd like to thank Kyle Whittingham for being such a
Speaker 18: evengeful baby.
Speaker 1: So did you think did you think that's a good
Speaker 1: take time? Did you did you think after they got
Speaker 1: stuffed two times in a row? What are you thinking?
Speaker 1: Because he's thinking, I don't worry. We'll be back here
Speaker 1: and try to score again. It's like this is nothing,
Speaker 1: okay he did to us, So we're gonna be back
Speaker 1: in the score. We're gonna be back in the score
Speaker 1: because look, yeah, I will tell you what I was thinking.
Speaker 18: That first drive was like it was a lot like
Speaker 18: the first round of what was it, Tommy Hearns and
Speaker 18: Marvin Hagler. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean because we were
Speaker 18: getting tackles for loss, they were getting a big play,
Speaker 18: we get another tackle for loss, a set, we were
Speaker 18: chasing a quarterback all over so we had we had
Speaker 18: Wilson running and we were taking punches and we were
Speaker 18: giving punches, and then the end of the round, the
Speaker 18: end of the round comes and Whittingham goals, goals for
Speaker 18: it when he's got three in his pocket. It's a
Speaker 18: long game, dude. You you still have fifty four minutes
Speaker 18: to go. It's a long game. You got to put
Speaker 18: those points in your pocket.
Speaker 4: What do you do?
Speaker 18: You go for it, Stuke stuffs it, and then you
Speaker 18: did it again on the next drive you had. I
Speaker 18: think I think that's why Utah lost. Had they played
Speaker 18: had they played it straight and taken both of those
Speaker 18: field goals, that that's not a six point difference. It's
Speaker 18: not twenty three to sixteen because we don't know what happened,
Speaker 18: because because because the offense gets a charge, don't say momentum.
Speaker 18: You can't say momentum sae. But but but you know,
Speaker 18: I was pumped at the house watching that and and
Speaker 18: I'm thinking, dude, and I thought, bro, and I'm thinking
Speaker 18: in my head, if we score anything, we're going to
Speaker 18: be off and running. And we didn't quite get and
Speaker 18: we didn't quite get to you know, thirty eight points
Speaker 18: or whatever. But that game was in hand almost from
Speaker 18: that point because our line, our line dominated their lines,
Speaker 18: both sides. I mean we we just outplayed them in
Speaker 18: every facet.
Speaker 1: Don we got to go. Thanks for them the two hours.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Thanks, We'll talk to you tomorrow. Don appreciate you. Look
Speaker 1: for Hey, We're done pretty much. I got I got
Speaker 1: Henry giving me the flash sign. They got it go.
Speaker 1: It went quick, very quick. Good show today. Unfortunately he
Speaker 1: rose past during the show. But we'll talk more about
Speaker 1: thank you because of this. No, no, sure would because okay,
Speaker 1: thanks thanks to Jay for calling in. Thanks for the guests,
Speaker 1: really good guests to be in in the month. So
Speaker 1: we'll see you guys tomorrow. Talk to you tomorrow.