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Speaker 1: So these GDP numbers and things that come out, we

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alongside people next to us. So sure, some people are

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talking about investing, should we diversify, where should we go there?

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But we need to actually be helping people that are

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having a hard time with the inflationary numbers. They're working,

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they have jobs, so it's hard for them to provide

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for their family. So we need to be talking about

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how can we help them gain and obtain better healthcare?

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How is it going to be affordable for them, and

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how can they actually truly say when they're just having

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a hard time day to day, let alone look at

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next month, the next, next year, next quarter for you know,

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for all that.

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Speaker 3: Welcome you are listening to and watching the Financial Survival Network.

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I'm your host, Carrie lutz Well We just got the

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latest GDP numbers and they blew through expectations. How convenient

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consumer spending is up, investment is up, government outlays is up. There,

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our outlays are up. There's a shocker, and lots of

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other good numbers that are bullish for the economy. I

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felt better just reading a Mindy Macintosh is with us now,

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and Mindy, you're from Wealthmichigan dot com. So we should

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all be breaking out the champagne.

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Speaker 1: Happy days are here again, right, I wouldn't be too

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sure about that. I mean, it's nice GDP, yes, two

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point eight, I get it, But I was kind of

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teasing here earlier. Today we have some sizzle and some

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fizzle all with this coming out currently, so we're just

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seeing things kind of stay put right now. It doesn't

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mean we're not trending towards the recession though, so that's

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not always good stable ground there. But we haven't seen

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much change of the housing units. We're seeing less job

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see some chades here in the upcoming future. But for now,

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that's kind of staying put, as you know, kind of

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Speaker 3: Right, So how much of this is real? How much

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of this is political? Do you think? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I think that we always have to throw that into there.

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news sectors of the past and been ten days right

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of everything that we've seen from the tech ara to

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digitals to you know, people can't fly in airplace it

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tech has been shut down. We take a look at

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some consumer reports, if we take a look at the

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macro view of the market on what's coming up with

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the election, we really need to find some common ground,

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get some good routes and stabilize and as a unit

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on currently. And you know I talked to you last time, Carrie.

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numbers and interest rates because we need to see the

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changes there and anytime we see that app cycle, part

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of our focus process that actually is going to tie

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that into when are we seeing the tax rates change then,

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because we have to start filtering in and finding out

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where the next SNK event change within the econrement.

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Speaker 3: You know, I saw a video. Of course you won't

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find it on the lane stream media, but there was

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a breadline in Brooklyn that stretched for like a mile.

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online there who literally, due to inflation, can't afford to

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socioeconomic strata. We don't really see that in our day

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to day, but that is what's happening around America large swaths.

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soup kitchen where a bread line, doesn't really care that

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the GDP grew two point eight percent and that consumer

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spending was up two point three percent. Those are meaningless numbers. Yeah,

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kitchens they're serving, they were just letting us over a

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couple of weeks ago, over five hundred individuals, and I

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believe that that is what they're doing every day.

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Speaker 3: And that's in a.

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Speaker 1: Very small community. So these GDP numbers and things that

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people are talking about investing, should we diversify, where should

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to provide for their family. So we need to be

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better healthcare? How is it going to be affordable for them,

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Speaker 3: Means, hey, you know, they're destroying the middle class. The

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inflation was all predictable. It started during COVID with all

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the massive handouts, which maybe somewhat necessary, maybe not, Maybe

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they could have been done in a lot better way

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than they were. But then we got the Inflation Aggravation Act,

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which has just put inflation on steroids. And nobody out

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there is talking about fiscal sanity, about you know, corporate welfare,

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about you know, endless wars. Nobody out there really who's

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really directly affect or indirectly affect. You might think war

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see that you know, everything is up twenty percent and their.

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Speaker 1: Other ends aren't keeping up that much. I mean, we

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have seen within our income planning, we call it our

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future income planning here we have seen with those interest

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rate numbers right now, with current interest rates and the

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short term doing so well, our income and bond alturtives

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we have been able to make a transition for them,

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give them some more income inside of their own investment

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portfolio to just kind of help ease some of the

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things you're talking about right Costing more even at the

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fuel pump, costs more to travel. If anybody's looking to

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housing market and need a loan, those interest rates are

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a plan and then how do you find good ways

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to make sure things are affordable because it's tough for

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Speaker 1: You know, husband and wife these days now both mean

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to be providing for the family in most most situations.

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get ahead. And we're going to see that. I think

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we're going to continue to see this cycle in economy

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because of what we saw in that trip off back

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back from COVID. I fully agree.

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Speaker 3: So, you know, increasing taxes with a recession coming up.

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government spin doctors here, it hasn't been fully recognized. You

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and the depression recessions when you're at a work, depressions

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when I'm at of work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, you and you have to. You can't

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just read headline news. You also can just see these

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numbers and percentages of that they oh everything is fine.

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well developed plan, just as you know, we talk about

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this with you quite a bit. So I think we

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have could prepare for taxes. So even if folks can

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say five ten dollars a week, even if that's what

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they're saving for their future retirement plan, by all means,

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I really want to make sure that that's in their

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tax free account. Try not to spend things on your

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credit cards that you don't have to, so that you

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are not you know, forever in debt and to the

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credit card carrier. And just making sure that we're looking

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at all avenues of healthcare, what type of health care

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is best for you, the costs. We like to make

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sure that we're really helping cholks with that as well.

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Speaker 3: Either.

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Speaker 1: They need to diversify and then to be able to

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take a look at don't assume too much risk or

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too little. How do they diversify and work alongside someone

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see the news, see the headlines and think, oh gosh,

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they must be talking to someone else, because they're for

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sure not talking to meat. And then they need to

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the community involvement like we started with, I think is

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Speaker 3: Okay, so is AI going to get us oide of

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this mess?

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Speaker 1: Like, hey, I'm not going to get outside of this mess.

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the way that folks need new business. It's also taken

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care for. H So I do think with anything, we

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don't want too much. Too much of any one thing

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is not good. So I think in moderation it can

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help us with some note taking, with some servix tools,

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optimizing time. But we still need to make sure. You know,

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I don't want to I don't want to sit a

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prosper a roepot robot that's writing.

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Speaker 3: Me a letter.

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure that I'm talking to you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, a while ago somebody was fired. He was

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a driver for Amazon, and you know, and he said,

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why what did I do wrong? Wasn't I producing? Nobody

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could say, because a machine had evaluated his performance, and

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which nobody even knows how it made its decision to

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Speaker 1: Correct, absolutely, And I want to make sure that we're

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keeping jobs for individuals, right, it's going to definitely be

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eliminating already have done so, and we'll see the spiraling

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effect of that. So we just needed to be careful

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of how much for action utilizing and leaning on that tool,

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Speaker 3: And for the vast majority of people, like work isn't

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just the means to a paycheck. It plays vital roles

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effect on things too, the supply chain and all that

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good stuff, right, Mandy, for sure.

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Speaker 1: Supply chain supplying demand, you know, they're doing. There's so

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much the frontrunner of some of these items, we have

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nuclear developments and you see all this that's happening in

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the floody and you hear no where we've seen nothing

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Speaker 3: It's frightening. I saw like mile two mile wide rivers,

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a bathtub. Is I'm just never seen anything like it.

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a zillion natural disasters before and never seen one any rivaling.

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Speaker 1: This, and they should be talking of it. How can

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create us together? We're all interactively changed and interconnected, and

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so why are we not seeing what's happening. We're going

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to see some international trade and deficits. We're also going

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to see some different things within as well as investing overseas,

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and you know that could help bring inter but we

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need to be discloseding and talking about it and so

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just having blinders over it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, obviously, uh decision has been made to make

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an enemy out of China, and they're not getting any

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help from the US until they beg for it, basically

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because they've always refused international help in the past, and

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they go into a denial ritual when anything bad happens there,

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and then they blame it on the victims generally and

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suppress all news of it. This is so big and

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it's far reaching that that you know, the government's got

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to be talking about this and really making it a

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major issue here because it's going to have effects all

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over the.

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Speaker 1: World, oh everywhere, absolutely sure, and so they need to

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decide what they're going to do, how they're going to

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portray it. And it can mean a lot of different

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variations of items and factors of that triple don effect,

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depending on what's disclosed and how that we're looking to help.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you know, even though there's a decoupling taking place,

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there's still a lot of stuff that gets made in

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China and a lot of stuff that we need, and

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you know, and it is one world, whether we like

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it or not. So even though our leaders would like

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to split us, you know, we're like little marketing niches everybody.

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They appeal to everybody their own little niche and ignore

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the fact that we're part of a bigger hole. So

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that is absolutely true. And you know, look the United

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States and the history of helping all these nations in distress.

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Whenever any disaster hits anywhere in the world, the US

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is there in some form or fashion. So it shouldn't

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be any different this time regardless. Put the politics aside,

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put the ideology aside, and just do the right thing. Hey,

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So when we have when we're looking at this economy

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after the election, mindy, after all the damage has been done.

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You know, we always say, you know, there's one guaranteed

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loser in every election, and that is the American public. Right,

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So where we going to be at come come November

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after the whatever happens happens there.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think consumers need to be a little

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cautious because so many states are already feel that if

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going to know who's going to be the new president elect,

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and we need to continue to create the unity. I

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just wish since someone run that actually is really well

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deserving and so inheritibly ready to be in the country stream.

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But who would want to who would want to have

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that job?

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Speaker 3: Exactly?

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Speaker 1: That's the big thing. The ones that really can do

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an amazing job with leading our country, they're not going

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to come to the forefront, in my opinion, which is

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what we really need. So the human population, like you said,

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we all live in one you know, one USA and

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one country, one global China. Everybodys to you know, we're

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all put out of our here. If we can start

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collaborating more than d shirt leading right together, it will

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help to create a more better developed plan. So I

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feel a little up at arms of what I think

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will happen this. You know, this November and does talk

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about you know, generally speaking, markets and returns and such

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are super effective whether we see democratic or republican. But

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you see things like this happen in China. Are we

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going to create unity and help out or we get

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to continuoency more nation divide on. That's all going to

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be a trickle down factor as well. So we have

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to create and develop a well sustained plan and be

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writing to make some changes because we're going to see it.

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Speaker 3: All right, Indy, Thank you so much for coming on.

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Even as you're find Mindy at Wealthmichigan dot com. Got

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