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Speaker 1: one hundred. Opportunity to some pop up afternoon storms. They
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Speaker 1: Seven thirty one, I think about KARSD talk station Happy Wednesday,
Speaker 1: Don on any Americans for Prosperity returns and the Senate
Speaker 1: in a state of Ohio release its budget proposals, So
Speaker 1: we're going to dive on into that. Welcome back, Don.
Speaker 1: It's always good having you on the show, Brian.
Speaker 2: Always a pleasure to be with you. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Well, it's something you and the folks in Americans for
Speaker 1: Prosperity were working on is lowering the state income tax.
Speaker 1: And I guess you got at least part of what
Speaker 1: you're looking for. Anybody making over twenty six fifty one
Speaker 1: dollars will pay a flat two point seventy five percent,
Speaker 1: which some are calling a discount for those making a
Speaker 1: whole lot of money. People used to used to pay
Speaker 1: I guess three and a half percent over one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. They've eliminated that to go with the flat tax.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're you're happy about that.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, getting Ohio to a flat tax is a
Speaker 4: critical first step to getting Ohio to a zero percent
Speaker 4: income tax, and that's been our long stated goal. Getting
Speaker 4: to making this leap happen at this time in this
Speaker 4: state budget is critical to that long term objective, and
Speaker 4: so we're thrilled that in the conference committee reports, nothing's
Speaker 4: grant nothing's taken for granted here, but the Conference Committee
Speaker 4: of both the House and the Senate Finance Committee leadership
Speaker 4: saul right to keep this in the final conference report
Speaker 4: that they'll send to the floor of both chambers today
Speaker 4: ultimately go to the governor.
Speaker 2: And this is big for the state of.
Speaker 1: Ohio well, and obviously makes this more competitive. Some states
Speaker 1: don't have any income tax, and you know, you look
Speaker 1: at I believe of what Texas, Florida, it's a huge
Speaker 1: draw for businesses and others who are trying to get
Speaker 1: away from heavy taxation. So I understand the point how
Speaker 1: much money. I'm sure there are people who were objecting
Speaker 1: to this discount, but moving from three point five percent
Speaker 1: over one hundred thousand do to two point seventy five percent,
Speaker 1: how much money will the state not be taking and
Speaker 1: what does that equal to in terms of millions or
Speaker 1: billions of dollars? As the case may be in less
Speaker 1: generated revenue.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think what we've seen from the Legislative Service analysis
Speaker 4: and what our Democrat progressive friends have been yelling out
Speaker 4: is one point six billion dollars unless revenue at the
Speaker 4: state will collect.
Speaker 2: But here's the interesting thing.
Speaker 4: We've gone over the last decade from nine tax brackets
Speaker 4: with the top marginal rate of four point ninety nine
Speaker 4: percent down to where we are currently today with two
Speaker 4: brackets top rate of three point five percent. In that
Speaker 4: same period of time, we've seen our revenues on both
Speaker 4: income and sales tax increase to the tune of about
Speaker 4: four or five billion dollars. This isn't surprising stuff, Brian, right.
Speaker 4: We see this happen on a federal level when the
Speaker 4: tax cuts were enacted twenty seventeen, When the Reagan tax
Speaker 4: cuts were enacted in the eighties, people had more money.
Speaker 4: They put that money into the economy. The government found
Speaker 4: its way into our pockets one way or another. But
Speaker 4: we do it not by having that money go to
Speaker 4: Washington or Columbus and be redistributed by the bureaucrats. We
Speaker 4: have that money invested into our communities, our states, our businesses,
Speaker 4: our families, our homes, our properties. That then enables right
Speaker 4: these low flat, broad based taxes to collect those revenues
Speaker 4: and fund the essential services that we need. We're just
Speaker 4: letting the people decide where they're going to spend their money,
Speaker 4: not the bureaucrats.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's always a good thing from my perspective,
Speaker 1: and one point six billion it doesn't.
Speaker 2: I don't look at that.
Speaker 1: As a sizable figure, particularly noting that the budget does
Speaker 1: include one point seven billion in unclaimed funds to fund
Speaker 1: a sports and cultural and various sports and cultural projects,
Speaker 1: so they can throw that money out of the world
Speaker 1: give six hundred million dollars to the Browns, which really
Speaker 1: just frankly and directly pisses me off. I don't think
Speaker 1: one can complain about one point six billion dollars less
Speaker 1: going into Columbus.
Speaker 4: Well, no, and I think we're the complaints come from
Speaker 4: a one point six billion is they want to find
Speaker 4: new and expanded ways to spend money. Here's another thing
Speaker 4: that's important what we're doing on this budget. And the
Speaker 4: final numbers from the conference report aren't available yet, and
Speaker 4: the appropriations we'll see those soon enough. But the Governor,
Speaker 4: with the Senate and House ultimately did was trim back
Speaker 4: the governor's spending proposals by about five five and a
Speaker 4: half billion dollars. We're still growing the state government here
Speaker 4: in Ohio by about I think seven or eight billion,
Speaker 4: give or take, and we're doing that off of already
Speaker 4: what I would say are inflated.
Speaker 2: Numbers coming out of COVID.
Speaker 4: Right, there were large cash infusions from the federal government
Speaker 4: that caused our budget to balloon tens of billions of
Speaker 4: dollars over the last couple of buyenniums, and we're not
Speaker 4: raining some of that in So the key thing here
Speaker 4: is we've expanded government over the last couple of buy
Speaker 4: aenems due to these cash infusions from the federal government,
Speaker 4: and we're continuing to budget in a way that grows
Speaker 4: are spending.
Speaker 2: Senate trimmed some.
Speaker 4: Of that back, but we really need to be restrained
Speaker 4: going forward in our growth in.
Speaker 2: The way we spend money.
Speaker 4: Ultimately, is going to take a governor who says I
Speaker 4: want a flat budget or I'm going to really, you know,
Speaker 4: take some heavy cuts to what the state government's doing.
Speaker 2: But we'll get to that, you know, in the coming months.
Speaker 2: In years, it's.
Speaker 1: Gonna say we don't have one of those right now,
Speaker 1: Donald the neil hold On will bring it back and
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Speaker 1: Judge Anena Paula tann are coming up in eight thirty
Speaker 1: and Brandon Nixon we Insidia. He is a Republican. He
Speaker 1: also is running for since a city council. The meantime
Speaker 1: from Americans for Prosperity Donald and Neil walking through some
Speaker 1: of the items in the budget which the Senate released
Speaker 1: here in the state of Ohio. Donovan, real quick, I
Speaker 1: got to bounce off your head, just get your initial reaction.
Speaker 1: We don't need to talk about it at length, but
Speaker 1: I had Greg Lasson for the Buck Institute talking about
Speaker 1: the proposal to amend the constitution to eliminate the property
Speaker 1: tax and the complication, the myriad complications that will arise
Speaker 1: if that, in fact happens. Has Americans for Prosperity taken
Speaker 1: a position on that particular initiative, just real quick.
Speaker 4: We haven't taken an official position on it, but I
Speaker 4: think what the folks who are advocating for that, I
Speaker 4: think we were fellow travels with that right.
Speaker 2: We are taxed enough already.
Speaker 4: We need to do something about this, as Greg and
Speaker 4: others will point out, and we sort of recognize as well,
Speaker 4: it's not as simple as just the limits and property taxes.
Speaker 4: But what I think is important in that what that's
Speaker 4: doing and the folks who have who're circling with petitions
Speaker 4: and doing that work or doing is it's raising the
Speaker 4: specter of this in Columbus. It is something that's talked
Speaker 4: about in all corners of tap Square, and you know,
Speaker 4: folks want to see something happen here or else. I
Speaker 4: think there's a very real reality that goes on the
Speaker 4: ballot and who knows what happens after that.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the work that they'll have to do
Speaker 1: to unring or to deal with the aftermath of that,
Speaker 1: and how things are funded, it's just going to be
Speaker 1: a nightmare scenario, that's what might. It makes me laugh
Speaker 1: every time I think about it. Those guys haven't done
Speaker 1: jack squat to address the problem, and now they're facing
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like they're facing the end of a
Speaker 1: gun here to their head with this initiative coming up
Speaker 1: on the ballot. So anyhow, I'm sure you and I'll
Speaker 1: have further discussions about that, but I know funding was
Speaker 1: something that's in the state budget. Talk about what you
Speaker 1: saw in the Senate bill.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, And it's interesting Hollywood, Washington, d C. And
Speaker 4: state capitals are the only places where you know, fantasy
Speaker 4: can become reality, and it's fantasy here really.
Speaker 2: Brand is school districts.
Speaker 4: School boards, the teachers unions in particular complaining about an
Speaker 4: increase and their funding. They're arguing, right that they that
Speaker 4: what they thought they were going to get was lower
Speaker 4: than what they got and hence that's a cut. Really
Speaker 4: is state of Ohio spending more and more on education
Speaker 4: every by aneum. It's a you know, from both the
Speaker 4: state share. And then going back to property taxes. The
Speaker 4: reason one of the major reasons our property taxes are
Speaker 4: as high as they are is because the various tactics
Speaker 4: and tools that the school boards across the state use
Speaker 4: to sort of increase unvoted put unvoted tax increases on
Speaker 4: property owners in the state. And so we want money
Speaker 4: to go to education. We think parents, families should be
Speaker 4: able to choose how to spend those dollars. They're the
Speaker 4: ones best equipped to keep the system accountable and honest
Speaker 4: and get the best outcomes education. Seeing an increase in
Speaker 4: this budget, that's a good thing. Some of the proposals
Speaker 4: by the Senate to increase performance on that, I think
Speaker 4: are what we really need. Right we hear folks like
Speaker 4: the vig Ramaswami talk about we need to get better
Speaker 4: outcomes in our station. I think We're still a ways
Speaker 4: off from that that being done. But you know, to
Speaker 4: our friends and family who are in the education space
Speaker 4: who are saying that the world is crumbling and education
Speaker 4: is underfunded. In the state, education is seeing an increase
Speaker 4: in funding in this budget, maybe just not as much
Speaker 4: as our friends at the Ohio Education Association the OEA
Speaker 4: Teachers Union would like it to be.
Speaker 1: Well, this is something else that Greg Lawston for the
Speaker 1: Buck Institute brought up. You know, state dollars, like federal dollars,
Speaker 1: come with strings attached. So if you're getting education dollars
Speaker 1: from Columbus, they can require performance standards for example.
Speaker 2: Right, that's right, Well, that's right. Well, and that's the other.
Speaker 4: Part of it, right is you talk again, This all
Speaker 4: wines back to property taxes and the thirty nine hundred
Speaker 4: plus political subdivisions that exist in the state, but specifically
Speaker 4: on education. These folks want the money without the strength
Speaker 4: right now. They want all the reward without any other
Speaker 4: risk or the accountability that comes with it. And that's
Speaker 4: a problem we've in. Any time lawmakers begin to kind
Speaker 4: of Columbus push on that in a good way, they
Speaker 4: get slapped back down because every one of these school boards. Right,
Speaker 4: six hundred school boards each with what five to seven members? Right,
Speaker 4: that's a couple thousand lobbyists right there. Add in the
Speaker 4: teachers' unions and they're paid folks, that's another couple thousand
Speaker 4: lobbyists descending on the state House. We need to push
Speaker 4: back against these folks harder and harder if we're going
Speaker 4: to actually get the accountability and reform we deserve.
Speaker 1: Exactly putting myself in a position of elected capacity, either
Speaker 1: as a senator or a representative. You know, my response
Speaker 1: to those people knocking on my door demanding more money
Speaker 1: and no account on ability. My dad sold phrase, I
Speaker 1: got two words for you, and it ain't happy birthday.
Speaker 1: How come these people are in capable of just saying no,
Speaker 1: get the hell out of my office.
Speaker 4: Well, I think we begin to I think what we're
Speaker 4: seeing is a beginning, that beginning in that cultural shift.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: You have decades of folks just being told yes that
Speaker 4: when you begin to tell them no, it.
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's a shock, it's a it's a
Speaker 2: it's a.
Speaker 4: Tectonic plate shift here, right, And I think what we're
Speaker 4: beginning to see is that shift. What again, what I
Speaker 4: think it ultimately takes. And this is where as an organization,
Speaker 4: we have a little bit of a long view on
Speaker 4: a lot of this stuff, right, So we look for
Speaker 4: these minor these these cultural shifts where the cruise ship
Speaker 4: is turning, the big cruise ship is turning. We've got
Speaker 4: the right folks in the legislature who are willing to
Speaker 4: say those things, to make those to make those reforms,
Speaker 4: introduce those reforms, talk about those reforms. I think in
Speaker 4: a lot of ways, what we really need is as
Speaker 4: an executive who's going to also drive that mandate.
Speaker 1: Right, ramis Slammy Viva Ramaswami looking forward to the days
Speaker 1: when we have him in office, when he'll embrace this
Speaker 1: stuff all day long. Donovan, I'm going to hold you
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Speaker 1: KRCD talk station, enjoying our conversation with Donald and Neil,
Speaker 1: learning a bit of a little bit about what's in
Speaker 1: the Senate proposed budget coming out just came out today.
Speaker 1: Moving over to regulatory form, Donovan, this appears like a
Speaker 1: good thing to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, actually really excited to see this included in this
Speaker 4: this final Conference Committee report that'll be voted on later today.
Speaker 4: With the floor of the House and the Senate. We've
Speaker 4: been talking about the Rains Act before. Yeah, they need
Speaker 4: to continue to strengthen regulatory reform. It appears got to
Speaker 4: have the lawyers and the policy folks take a take
Speaker 4: a look at it with the fine Tooth compan It
Speaker 4: appears like many of the provisions of the Rains Act,
Speaker 4: as well as some strengthening on what we call guidance
Speaker 4: I think called guidance documents that agencies put out, has
Speaker 4: been included in this budget.
Speaker 2: It's pretty interesting stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, in the proposed rule says that any any proposed rule,
Speaker 1: these would be the regulations that come out from some unnamed,
Speaker 1: unelected fishial in the back room that cost taxpayers or
Speaker 1: businesses over one hundred thousand dollars or have more than
Speaker 1: one million dollars in overall economic impact. They got to
Speaker 1: do a detailed cost analysis now for every rule and
Speaker 1: to the extent it has that economic impact at that
Speaker 1: monetary level, it can be paused, it can be rejected,
Speaker 1: or it goes to the full General Assembly for approval.
Speaker 1: So the General Assembly actually has to vote on something
Speaker 1: that's going to have that that that economic impact.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's that's incredibly transformational that it is exact
Speaker 4: kind of stuff we're talking about right where right now,
Speaker 4: jcart does a phenomenal job providing scrutiny to all the
Speaker 4: rules and regulations that the executive agencies are putting out.
Speaker 4: But what we've asked for right and what the rains
Speaker 4: Acts does is it has an extra layer scrutiny to
Speaker 4: those things, those items that you just pointed.
Speaker 2: Out there by requiring go.
Speaker 4: To the full General Assembly. Now there's a couple of
Speaker 4: different pathways there. We want to make sure that you know,
Speaker 4: there's not some sort of default if the j car
Speaker 4: doesn't sort of keep his hand on the steering wheel here,
Speaker 4: that the rule can just go into place. But what
Speaker 4: it appears to do is say that if it if
Speaker 4: it triggers or goes over that one hundred thousand or
Speaker 4: one million dollars on economic drag impact, that it goes
Speaker 4: to the General Assembly, and it has to be the
Speaker 4: General asembly has to approve that rule. That'd be transformational
Speaker 4: for the state of Ohio and really begin to stop
Speaker 4: and stem the tide of proliferation we're seeing in new
Speaker 4: rules occurring here in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 1: One might argue that's probably the most important provision in
Speaker 1: this budget proposal. They're going to vote on it today
Speaker 1: you say, yeah, later this afternoon, they'll they'll be voting.
Speaker 1: Here's here's another one I want to point out as well,
Speaker 1: that's in there. So one of the things we found
Speaker 1: and actually you mentioned the VEG Gramaswami he joined us
Speaker 1: for a telephone town hall last week talking about these
Speaker 1: provisions red Tape Production and Regulatory Reform.
Speaker 4: And RAINS Act. There are these nasty little things that
Speaker 4: are beginning to pop up. So as agencies remove rules,
Speaker 4: do two or one in two out type provisions cut
Speaker 4: by thirty percent, what they do is they'll they'll go
Speaker 4: to the agency and say we cut all these rules.
Speaker 4: But then what they do are these guidance documents, these
Speaker 4: sort of you know, secret not so secret documents that
Speaker 4: they'll whip out whenever they choose to sort of enforce
Speaker 4: things that that are those rules that they said they
Speaker 4: got rid of, but just in a different form that
Speaker 4: allows them to sort of circumvent what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 4: In this language here, they're going to actually begin to
Speaker 4: have a greater scrutiny and make sure that j CAR
Speaker 4: will have the ability to make sure that these executive
Speaker 4: agencies don't create these rules in other obtuse ways, like
Speaker 4: through guidance documents. It's a powerful sort of tool to
Speaker 4: reign in these bureaucrafts.
Speaker 1: The guidance document sounds like an advisory opinion kind of thing.
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, they talked about them. These these things
Speaker 4: are just you know, they'll find any way, right, the
Speaker 4: bureaucrats will find any way.
Speaker 1: To do what they do best. That doesn't sound like
Speaker 1: it has any teeth. I mean, I'm going back to
Speaker 1: my dad's comment about I got two words for it
Speaker 1: ain't happy birthday. Someone can offer me a guidance opinion,
Speaker 1: and I can say, you know what, I'm going to
Speaker 1: go a different direction than your guidance suggests I go.
Speaker 1: I mean, what ramifications could possibly come about from that?
Speaker 4: Well, so just to be clear, this is what the
Speaker 4: bureaucrats are doing. They're doing to get that and what
Speaker 4: the language is trying to do is kind of snuff
Speaker 4: that out and say no, no, no. When you said
Speaker 4: you got rid of the rule or the regulation, you
Speaker 4: don't get to bring that rule or regulation back through
Speaker 4: some other form or function. Well, and bully businesses in
Speaker 4: the state of Ohio. You got rid of that rule.
Speaker 4: That rule does not exist. You don't get to do it.
Speaker 4: You don't get a bully businesses anymore bureaucrats. If you
Speaker 4: want to impose a new rule, you come to us
Speaker 4: and say you want to do it in the legislature.
Speaker 4: Prove or deny that.
Speaker 1: I was just trying to understand how it practically works.
Speaker 1: If the rule has been abolished, then you can offer
Speaker 1: a guidance that goes by the way of the rule
Speaker 1: that was abolished, and I can feel free to say,
Speaker 1: go to hell, I'm not following it because it's no
Speaker 1: longer a rule. But practically speaking, I guess you know
Speaker 1: it goes on anyhow without a doubt.
Speaker 4: And the problem, as you can imagine, right is it's
Speaker 4: the business owner having to push back against you know,
Speaker 4: the state EPE and the stated EPA's word, and that's
Speaker 4: going to cost you time and money. Even if you're
Speaker 4: a business who's in the right, that's time and money.
Speaker 4: Let's just knock that stuff out in the first Placemen
Speaker 4: don't have to deal with it.
Speaker 1: I understand the practical area implications behind fighting this system.
Speaker 1: I'm just appreciative that at least some people are in
Speaker 1: a position to fight the system. Donovan and Neil Americans
Speaker 1: for prosperity. God bless you and the work that you
Speaker 1: and the team do each and every day on behalf
Speaker 1: of the Ohio taxpayer. I'll look forward to another conversation
Speaker 1: with you and hopefully more good news like this regulatory
Speaker 1: form going through seven fifty six fifty five cares of
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Speaker 2: That'll be a thirty stick around you will be called
Speaker 2: the twelve Day War. I suppose that's what we were
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